November 23, 2025 • 60 mins
KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 23 Nov, 2025
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On Bummy. You need to stay.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
I know you told you that the wrong town. But
this is it. This is hot, it's bumping, jumping, and
that's what we want to do. We want to keep
right moving from where the revenue. Listen, we're responsible, but
we're blessed. Every moment that we are here, we get
an opportunity to make a choice to deal with the
fact that we are in a Should I go left?
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Should I go right? Should I go north? Should I
go south? Should I sit at home and cry? Should
I get out in the street and beat my feet?
Should I accept that you? Should I run away from
the challenge? Listen, it's your choice, and the challenge is
there because God has given you power. He's given you
the power to go forward to do what you want
to do, what you need to do, and what is
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right to be done. We are here on the planet
being shared with many attitudes, many different approaches, many, many
kind people convince that their direction is the right direction.
And you if you're guided by the light that God
puts out every day, if you're guided by the truth
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that says every man should have the right to express himself,
every man should have the right to freedom, every man
should have the right to pursuit of love, life, happiness,
that every man and every woman should have that, And
that the universe does not circle around me or you,
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but around us, and the power of you is exhibited
best when we work it together. The answers to the
questions that we don't have answers to are with your
fellow man, your fellow sister, that other person who has
spent time going to the direction other than the direction
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you're going, so that they could understand information that you
don't understand and bring it back to where you are,
because hopefully you've done the same. And each one of us,
as we splinter out and go do what we do,
the power of what we do is most powerful when
we bring it back to the unit and we all
function and work together. That's all teamwork. Teamwork makes the
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dream work. And folks, we've got some dreams that really
really need to work right here in the United States
of America. We have a dream that we call it
in the Constitution. The gentleman who wrote that under the
influence of the women who influenced them, they blended together
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some pretty strong committed commitments to thought, some pretty strong
commitments to making something work that they could only dream about,
that they were not sure about. Mac mac Rome will
be joining us in a bit so that you I'm
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saying that so that you'll understand. You won't have to
hear my voice all day. I'm not going to sit
here and tell you how important it is to get
other people's opinions, and it's only allow you to hear mine.
We'll bring brother mac Rome men. We'll also bring in
Michael Archibald, Allen Mitchell, Allen Archibald Murray, my daughter, my
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East Coast representative of the thought and the attitude that
love is indeed the answer and the route and lane
that we should be occupying as we go forward. I
say that to say several things, one of them, as
I go back to the Constitution, and I go back
to what we have as a basis for our dream,
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our commitment to the future, the commitment to our children,
and our grandchildren that we will supply them with the country,
a nation, an opportunity to be themselves and in doing
so be empowered by the fact they are encouraging others
to be themselves. Folks, it ain't easy, but it is
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very easy. It's not easy because of our attitude. It's
not easy because we have such pride. It's not easy
because we decide that we need to be first in line.
It's not easy because we deal with the idea that
that's our parking spot. Things are made harder by the
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fact that we want to be treated better than the
next person. Oh, I know you do, because I do too.
But that's why I can understand and say thank you
when somebody allows me to be next in line, because
they say, hey, you come on in front of me.
And then I feel good enough at some point to
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continue that and tell somebody else, Hey, that's your parking spot.
Don't worry about me, I can find another. The little
sacrifices that we think we make are really investments in
the future. The little things that we do to be nice,
to be comfortable with ourselves because we've allowed someone else
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a comfort, those are rewards. Those are rewards. Those are
dividends being paid back to you because of your investment
into the pool of common sense, your investment into the
pool of kindness, your investment in to the pool of
service to others. Yes, my brother, it's time to love
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your brother for something other than what he can do
for you. Yes, it's time to make our master wish
come true. Oh what does that mean? That means that
as we sit at home thinking and dreaming about what
we particularly want for ourselves, that we should always and
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also think in terms of how convenient is my desire
if I get it all to the rest of the world.
I'm a lucky guy. I've generally lived in situations where
I've shared housing with others. Not just the beautiful wife
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or the wonderful kids or grandkids. But when I was
in college, you know, we live communally with learned how
to be a good roommate. Learned how to understand that
if I used it up, I should be able to
clean it up. Learned that if I'm gonna be eating
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it up, I need to be bringing it up. You know,
I can eat your popcorn as long as I'm gonna
be sure that you have some when you decide that
you want some so I might eat your popcorn up
in the middle of the night, but that's because I'm
going to go up early in the morning and be
sure you got some waiting for you when you decide
you want some. Being a good roommate, being a good housemate,
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being a good citizen. And that's all we're talking about,
being a good citizen, doing for others what you would
want them to do for you. I believe you know
I'm not the guy if you want to know what
chapter and verse and the Bible says about this, and that,
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I'm not that guy, unfortunately, but I do lean on
common sense and I and I think it's I think
it's a good thing. There's nothing common about common sense,
just like there's no guarantee that other people have read
and want to follow your scripture, whether it would be
from from your your book of Eli, your book of
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Jesus Christ, your book of Buddha, your book of Muslim
of Islam, uh, no matter to me which religion you have.
Your religion gives you an opportunity to see a portion
of God. And when we understand that we are only
seeing a portion of God, then we also realize the
importance of other people people's viewpoint. The other the fact
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that other people are in a position to fill in
the gaps and allow us to see what's really going
on so we could be who we really think needs
to that we need to be folks who are doing good. Though,
you know, it's not like we're in some kind of
hole where we don't get good examples of life and
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good things to encourage us to go forward and things
to challenge us to bring out the best in us.
I sit here and ride the anti Trump horse quite
a bit, But if I didn't have Trump to exemplify
the things that I think are not fully moving in
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the lane of great citizenship and moving in the lane
of sharing, and moving in the lane of caring and
representing and servicing people who have voted and elected you. Now,
he's a prime example of the person to me that
we don't want to be. But it doesn't mean doesn't
mean that I think he And this is you know,
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this is the forgiveness because no matter how much I
think my particular feelings about him are totally unique, I'm
sure there's somebody that feels the same about me, or
even worse, and just like I don't want to bear
their concept of justice, Praise the Lord. My concept of
justice is not the one that Trump will have to bear.
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As long as you leave me to let God be
my judge, who I'm gonna feel pretty good. And I
am quite willing to let God be the judge of
mister Trump in terms of his morality, in terms of
his use of the Great breath and oxygen and lifestyle
that God has given him, that's God. That's him and God.
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Now how his policy and how we work together, is
it just about him? It is about us? We can't.
I can't sit around and complain about what he does
unless I've got an idea of what should be done,
if it's not the same as what he is doing.
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So I can't talk about and doing a backwards tax
on people in the United States and talk about how
silly that is without having an idea of how the universe,
how in the United States there are our economy is
a potential beneficiary of a universal income, Well, well that's whatever.
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What is that You would just want to give people
money that don't work for it? Well, no, I understand.
If you are able to function in America, I mean
you have to work at being successfully homeless. If you're homeless.
You can't just die because you're homeless. Do you hear that?
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The reason you see homeless people is because they've figured
out how to survive that short period of time hopefully
that they will be homeless. That's tenacity. You need to
give those folks credit. The people who deserve and who
should be under the care of some mental counselor with
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some type of sheltered living situation because of their mental status.
But they're able to get out there and anyway, able
to figure out or be blessed some kind of way
to eat every other day if necessary, and find a
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place to sleep halfway safely, and more importantly, to give
us an example to look at every day in wonder,
are we consciously taking care of those who need care?
That's the biggest statement that homeless people, poor people provide
is our Are we, the people who are not in
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that situation, going to be so so prideful, so empowered,
so entitled that we can eat, we can have a
place to live, we can have a wonderful lifestyle and
do it right next to some poor wretched soul who
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can't eat, doesn't have a place to live and sleep.
But we're gonna walk right by him every day, just
like he's normally and expected to be there, just like
a tree or you know, or like a stump, or
like a bush, or like a bird or like a
squirrel or oh, he's just homeless. Guy. Here, here's fifty cents,
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here's a buck, here's fifty dollars, one hundred dollars. Won't
do whatever it is. They need a solution. But at
the same time they need a solution they are aggravating
in aspect of your solitude, of your comfort that needs
to be aggravated. As long as there's one, two, three
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people out there without and the rest of us have,
we have to do better. You should cough, and I
I started to say choke, but I don't want to
shoo to choke. But you should cough almost every time
you get ready to eat, just knowing that there are
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people on the planet who haven't, you know, in days,
had real nourishment. I'm trying to tell you how strong
we are. I'm not telling to tell you how weak
we are. I'm trying to tell you how strong we are.
We can change these things immediately. We don't have to
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wait until the storm comes or the flood comes or
the tornado or the hurricane, in order to see that
there are people who are in need, Because there are
people who are in need long before the hurricane comes.
There are people who are in need and able to
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show you how your power is better used by being
the recipients of God's pain, waiting for the delivery of
God's grace through you and me. That's the question, that's
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the principle. That's the thing we provide every time we decide.
Remember now, we started with the idea that we've had
decisions that we can make every day all day. We're
presented every day with an opportunity to change the world,
our world, the world of someone else. And quite frankly,
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if you're sitting hungry and homeless, it doesn't take a
whole lot to change your world. Hero sitting there waiting
to find the place to exhibit your desire to actually fly.
You want to be Superman, but I need to fly.
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You can be Superman with a good, strong meal ticket,
be Superman with a willingness to help somebody find a
place to sleep safely. Now as I get into this,
I know of the weather thing that's gonna come up,
and I know it comes up with you, because it
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comes up with me. And I know I'm a good guy.
I don't want to have to share my bathroom. Gosh,
I want to sleep in my bed. Reminds me of
a story. Let me salute mother, Mother Herndon, her son, Jerry,
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are you a friend of mine? One of my first
friends when I moved into San Bernardino, and it's friends.
Matter of fact, one of his great friends was a
brother named Frank Stalworth that many of us know. I'm
talking history now, but Frank used to come and visit
Jerry as a child, spend the night. And Mother Herndon says,
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you're welcome, and she was always welcoming. And Jerry said,
you know, Mom made us sleep on the floor when
we had guests. We gave up our bed if you want.
If you want an overnight guest, you have to treat
him right. Treat him right, give him your bed. You
sleep on the floor. And Jerry loved Frank so much
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he didn't think about it. Slept on the floor. Great example.
Tribute to three people that I have great respect for.
Mother heard it, her son, Jerry, his friend Frank Stormworth.
Great people. All of us have our idiosyncrasies in our feelings.
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Nobody's perfect, and as far as I know, only one
person walk the water under documentation. So all of that
to say, we have the opportunity to do better, we
should do better, and I'm gonna take a short break.
We come back, we will hopefully be able to talk
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with mister Macrome, and we'll also get a chance to
hear from the East Coast. I didn't mean to preach,
but if my preaching made you decide that you want
to tithe, we are willing to accept what. Okay, well,
let's don't do that. All right, fine, all right, cool,
love you guys. We're gonna take a very short break
and we'll be right back. Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (27:39):
So no bunkoo me to thing you I'm meeting so bunk.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Full me.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm meeting to bunk do tell them the way I'm
meeting bunk you.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
We are back. This is Empire Talks Background Wallace Allen
here on the case for truth and justice with the
right information to help improve the situation and Talks Back
is brought to you by the Improved Association, where we
work to bring our community resources together for the benefit
of our individuals in the community. It's a blessing to
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be able to serve mische are you there?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I am, I am.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
That's a beauty. It's like hearing hearing the little bells,
the little bells that ding dong ding do many Ripperton bells.
Speaker 14 (28:39):
Those are just beautiful bells.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Voicemails. Oh yeah, yeah, I know. I know how to
grab at your heart, don't I I know how to
make you make you look, make make you look up
to the left, you know, and say, oh my goodness,
he said. Many ripper find.
Speaker 14 (28:57):
Find so many er in there, Eric, but and and
make me take back all the days that I complained
when you would take my Jackson five record off the
record player and put on many represent and I would
roll my eyes because I was only four. So but
before we go any further, I have some really special
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news that I want to miss stress your right away
because everyone within the range of the sound of the
show now has the opportunity to get some firsthand views
and knowledge and also entertainment from Jamaica right now on
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YouTube live on the JCDC Jamaica YouTube channel, the IRI
FM YouTube channel, the PBC Jamaica YouTube channel. I'll post
them all on the Instagram. But happening right now from
one pm Eastern Time to seven pm Eastern Time is
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the I Love Jamaica Telethon and Virtual Concert coming to
you live from Jamaica with entertainers like Beanie Man, Tanya Stevens,
Christopher Martin, Nadine Sutherlands, or Riley ding Dong, Jamaicans who
are on the ground in Jamaica helping to rebuild and
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build back.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 14 (30:27):
So yeah, yeah, So I wanted to make sure you
know so that you don't miss a moment of a
really good show and also just some immediate feedback, firsthand
feedback from Jamaicans on the ground. And I know it's
important because the other thing is that I don't know
if you all are aware of this, but in the
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United States, the Jamaican diaspora community is over a million people.
So we have over a million Jamaican Jamaican descendants who
live here legally in America. And so this is all
your friends that have the Jamaican restaurant down the street,
the one you went to school. All of you together
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right now can get on YouTube and be the show
and also be able to contribute because it is a telethon,
so you will be able to pledge funds that goes
toward the rebuilding efforts that is massively underway thanks to
World Central Kitchen, American Friends of Jamaica, the Bob and
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Rita Marley Foundation. Some of our favorite entertainers Maxi Priest,
Tom Petty, twenty One Savage, Winnie Harlow Diplow have been
on the ground are already jumped into the fundraising efforts.
So this is something that you can hear them.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
You can hear them a little bit in the background.
Now Eric has pulled it up, Maeric Fetter Factor, give
it a little volume. There, Rook is on the way. So there,
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So where is this taking place to stage itself, Missie?
Speaker 14 (32:24):
In Kingston, Jamaica. In Kingston, Jamaica, right right at one
of the television one of the television studios. There on
the ground, you'll see Marthia Griffith. You'll see a lot
of your favorites. But more than that, like I said,
you'll get some direct news, not just on how devastating
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it has been. I think at this point we are
very very familiar with the devastation and it's going to
be that way for a long time. We got rain
the other day that caused more flooding. There are things
called groundwater that I didn't know what that was, but
it's it's similar to what happened and after Hurricane Katrina,
where the ground gets so saturated that somehow like the
water comes up from the ground and floods certain places.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Again.
Speaker 14 (33:09):
But we have but.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
With that you as you described that, you also brought
to my attention that this is creating new springs, new
new creeks, uh possibly ultimately new river But that's that's
that's that's a new source. It's it's it's interesting that
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devastation h gives us the challenge to realize the the
opportunity that it has bring that it brings. Nature revitalizes
itself through these activities, and we as people have to
figure out how we can, you know, revive ourselves and
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revitalize ourselves at the same time.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
Well, we were created to do so. I think what
we learned from nature is that the same way that
God created nature to be self sustaining and when necessary,
self preserving, even it just means it has to kick
some of the people out of certain areas because of
the way it's being treated. We were also created our
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selves regenerate. You know, we have systems in our body,
and so we have a nervous system, and the nervous
system and the way it responds to the things that
happen around us determine how quickly and how well we rebuild.
So it's a way of just continuing to see how
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we were made and how wonderfully we were made, and
that if we can sometimes just push through the heart emotion,
we actually get to a better place. Anyone who's given
birth knows this because when you've had to push through
some art situations. Well there you go, really really wonderful.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
There you go, you said, said half the world over
on one side here because we definitely from the man thing.
Speaker 14 (35:05):
Don't understand that part, yeah, but you know the benefit
is and the truth of it. We don't understand that
part either. We don't understand your part, but we as
long as we can respect it and appreciate it, then
that's half of that. What I understand is that God
is so humongous and God is so big that when
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he went to make humankind in his own image, couldn't
put it all into one type of body. God didn't
get in one type of body. Everything God is had
to be split up into these two, you know.
Speaker 11 (35:38):
And if we.
Speaker 14 (35:39):
Can respect that and understand and appreciate how we need
one another because we were created to intergrate and interact
with one another, it's a good thing, you know. But
you know, yeah, I'm thankful.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
That's that's the main Thing's to be woke, awake and
not paralyzed by the fear or the anxiety that is
created by newness, by the appearance of the unexpected. And
(36:20):
when we are no matter how old, no matter how
long we've been here, we are able to see something
of the cake coming out of the oven. I'd rather
hear the doorbell where the cake is being delivered. But
(36:41):
I understand it. It's got a you know, it's got
a sequence that it takes place. Mishrah, your experience and
love for Jamaica is of something that I can understand.
But you spent many years in Jamaica. You are back
and forth in Jamaica. You're much of your childhood with
(37:03):
spinning Jamaica. You have a love for Jamaica that that
is earned very deeply. But at the same time, you
have the experience of being so much brought up on
the mainland of the United States that being able to
compare the access to resources in one place in terms
(37:27):
of material resources access to resources in another place, referring
to the spiritual, there is a richness in both places
that allows us to see a poorness in both places.
(37:50):
So just saying we need each other because the nature
the spiritual.
Speaker 14 (37:56):
Yes, we are literally family. I think it's important to
know before I even go into it. Because one of
the things I wanted to highlight for our family in California,
because having been born in Los Angeles, and growing up
no Northern Cali, Southern cal living in so many different places.
What I tend to say is that I am a
(38:18):
California girl with Southern roots and a Caribbean twist. And
I'm really proud that, in addition to all of the
health and assistance that has been coming from all over
the world, that we have actually had Los Angeles County
Fire Department teams on the ground in Jamaica to assist
(38:43):
with search and rescue. And I thought it was important
because all the other things that are happening in the news,
and I get it, it's relevant. It's important news. You know,
the waking, the awakening of Marjorie Taylor Green, the you know,
the craziness of her boss, that she is now to
(39:04):
the point where she's referring to herself as a battered
wife to him, Bless her heart. But I think it's
also important to know that America, Yes, gave a lot
of money to Argentina, and yes, we've had the Saudi
Arabian prints in the White House, and these things have
been happening, but quietly, and I don't know why it's quiet.
The United States has also provided disaster assistance, not just
(39:27):
to Jamaica, but to Cuba, to Haiti, to the Bahamas.
They've deployed what we have here is called the Disaster
Assistance Response Team and from Fairfax County in La County
Urban Search and Rescue Teams. They've pledged more than twelve
point six million additional disaster assistance and so now the
(39:51):
grand total is thirty seven million dollars. They've sent over
five hundred and thirty thousand pounds of relief commodities, food,
drinking water, shelter supplies. They've lent their helicopters, twelve thousand
parts shelter kits.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
So I mean there's help, it's.
Speaker 14 (40:08):
Still helping to meet the needs. I think it's important
for us to be able, you know, to talk about that.
America is supporting the Bahamas Red Cross Society to provide
shelter and water there. They've distributed food to twelve thousand,
seven hundred people in Haiti. So I mean the thing
about America similar to the thing about Jamaica, because quite frankly,
(40:32):
no nation is perfect, and every government is far from imperfect,
is far from perfect, but there's something about the spirit
of its people, the Jamaican people, the American people at
our heart and our core. That as frustrated as I
can get sometimes with people on the ground or governments
(40:55):
or different things, the spirit always kind of brings us
back together. And that's what I mean by we're family.
And I think it's important also to understand that historically
on the Middle Passage, the captured Africans who were the
most resistant of the ones they called troublemakers because they
kept trying to escape or kept trying to revolt. Jamaica
(41:17):
was one of the first stops in the Atlantic, and
so they dropped off the troublemakers. They said, well, we
cannot No they did because they said, well, we're not
gonna be able to sell them in Virginia. They make
too much noise. They got scars on them now.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
They you know.
Speaker 14 (41:31):
So they would leave them there like that's it, We've
had enough. And so then some of their same brothers
and sisters though, made it to the United States. So
again we're family. And then about that in Jamaica, I
stopped and think about it a lot, because I wonder
how those Africans must have felt because they look out
(41:53):
and they can't see land. Now they finally do sea land,
and I wonder if some of them are wondering, if
I swim far enough, or I climb high enough, I'm
gonna end up back at home. And what that frustration
muks to felt like. And so you have that deeply
rooted in your DNA. Then you have piracy, then you
have colonization, you have slavery, and art in the midst
(42:15):
of all that treatment. Though, somehow these people, after everything
they've been through. And by the way, freedom by decree
is a whole different set of trauma than freedom by
revolution or whatever we called it over here during the
Civil War, and I think we should look at it
at one point. But I say that to say, these
people who have been through so much, who have endured
so much, found a way to have a joy and
(42:38):
a spirituality that has given us culturally some of the
greatest art, not just the music the reggae music, but
I mean art in the world from that little bitty
place that's been through so much. And I think it's
a testimony again to our spirits. And so the fact
that Jamaica right now is lifting itself up with the
(43:02):
same music that it has used to uplift so many
people around the world today from one o'clock to seven,
And I'm gonna say it again because I really want
people to even if you're not able to contribute financially,
those views actually help you, know, to to just it
and enjoy some of the music and see these people,
(43:26):
and see these entertainers, some of who have lost their homes.
They have family members who've lost lost their roots. A
really good friend of mine, the only reason she didn't
lose power on her house is because it's the new
house that is completely solar. And the reason it's the
new house is because two years ago her house burned
to the ground while she was away on tour. And
(43:48):
speaking of resources, they don't have nine to one one
in Jamaica that can get to you with a fire
truck quickly enough to save your home in a lot
of places. So you know, just like you said that
thinks there's trouble before the storm, the struggle people who
survived that trouble are the ones who are then prepared
to help others when the storm come. So again, it all,
(44:12):
it all brings us back together.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Well, let's the parallel between the troublemakers that were left
to help build Jamaica's attitude. We're the same type of
troublemakers that were expelled from England to come to the
United States. And the thing that changes or that bubbles
(44:39):
up out of that experience, the experience of being the
ones who have caused enough trouble. The Marjorie Taylor Green
caused enough trouble to have to be reborn again somewhere
means that's there's an opportunity there.
Speaker 14 (45:01):
Yeah, And guess what I prayed for, Marjorie Taylor Green.
I've prayed every day. I learned a long time ago
because I had a mother who told me that we
shouldn't hate people right, And somewhere along the way, I
got into this thing of praying for the people who
are annoying me or disturbing me the most, and my
prayer simply became similar to what I pray for people
(45:23):
I love, is that they would wake up to the
truth of who they are spiritually, who they are to God,
who God is to them, because I figure, if you
wake up and really know that, then you don't feel
like you have to take something from someone else in
order to have something. You don't feel like you've got
to fight for a space that you obviously already occupy
(45:44):
because you're standing and breathing in it. So I say,
as much as we criticize people, and they need to
be criticized, and some of them do need to be
stopped in their tracks, and some of them, you know, well, hey,
that's the uh. You know, I won't go down far,
but I just say have to say that, you know,
(46:07):
we've got to give people opportunity, and we've got to
hope that they get some sense because we can't grab everybody.
We can't lock up everybody. We can't. So some of
them we just have to really look at, especially in
positions of power and authority, and just pray they get
some dug one sent Yeah.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah. And at the same time, we have to understand
that the uh, the achademy seems to be the way
God set it up. You know, He made night and
day left and right up and down, and you have
to merge those at some point. That's why we look
at the morning as the as the morning as the
(46:43):
night gradually becomes the light.
Speaker 9 (46:46):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
That little period of time where they are merging seems
to be the people say, ah, the best time of
today is daybreak, or the best time of the day
is sunset. As we blend the extremes together, but the
extremes are definitely necessary.
Speaker 14 (47:08):
Uh well, they are integrated and they work together in
a process. Two of my favorite songs in the Whole
World won by Diane Reeves where she say, you can't
get to know better days unless you make it through
the night. And then of course you know the wonderful
song by the Whinings and Anita Baker. Ain't no need
(47:29):
to worry what the night is gonna bring, because it'll
be all over in the morning. We need day and
we need night. Important things happen in the night that
help make the day do what the day needs.
Speaker 7 (47:40):
That's right. And and that's that's where I'm gonna go
again with mister Trump. As much as they talk about
don't be woke, he has caused a lot of people
to wake up at.
Speaker 14 (47:53):
The same time not have otherwise done.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 14 (47:56):
We had to wake up because we had to realize,
guess what. We can't just sit back and assume that
people are going to do the right thing. We can't
assume that, you know, just because it's the right thing
and the nice thing and the easy thing, someone's going
to do it. We realize that we have to now
actually participate in our government. We have to participate in
(48:19):
our communities, We have to participate in the raising of
our children, because the people that we thought were going
to help with it are crazy, no, And we needed
to know that.
Speaker 7 (48:29):
You just mentioned it brought up the fact that is
simply watching this telethon can support the redemption rebirth of Jamaica.
So when we tell people to participate, let's exemplify for
(48:50):
them some of the simple things that they can do.
I mean, and that's most simple. If you've got a
computer or a TV set, you can you can support Jamaica,
and probably you can donate. I would imagine you watching
them today might amount to five five dollars donation in
terms of how it's actually going to affect their the
(49:14):
flow of money from from the stream exactly. So if
we've got a million people here in the southern California
area that suspend some time watching this show, we could
actually say we donated five million dollars to the cost.
Speaker 14 (49:32):
Yeah, or you know what else we can do.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
The beauty of it.
Speaker 14 (49:36):
Is the same way that we tend to just have
on being in in the background HSN in the background,
BT in the background. You can put this YouTube telethon
on in the background. Do you have a smart TV
or on your phone and you can just you can
come in and out of what you're doing and you
(49:58):
can just let it. You can just let it play.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
Yeah, as handsome as Anthony my mood master is and
you know, some people say they like, like my little jacket,
We're gonna take that off and and just roll with
the telethon. In terms of our view to the public here,
I think that's a good thing to do. And writing
a letter, I don't know if there's you know, like
(50:24):
with Santa Claus, there's a place you could write a
letter and you know it would go to quote unquote
Santa Claus. H it'd be interesting if we were able
to get some letters of support to Jamaica or of.
Speaker 14 (50:40):
Supporting the future. In the comments, you can say I'm
with you in the comments. You can say I'm praying
for you. In the comments, you can say, you know
you're lifting me up while you're lifting yourself up, so
I'm gonna list you up. You can say I'm praying
for you. You can say I'm so happy that you are
(51:00):
still able to find a song in what you're going
through you can say.
Speaker 7 (51:05):
I see you boy.
Speaker 14 (51:07):
You can just put in a happy space most you
prayer hands. If your people a few words, you know,
these phones have now made it easy for you.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
That's right. So if you've been, if you've been, if
you are a social media person, you know how to
pile up some congratulations to this teleton. You know how
to tell your friends and neighbors that suffering is not
something that should be done alone, and we can do
(51:37):
something to make those who are suffering feel better. And
maybe in general hashtag something that that salutes Jamaica, reminds
people to be kind and do it in the name
of Jamaica. All of that makes sense. And I'll tell
you what. I don't care who or what you decide
(51:59):
to be. He uses your rationale to be kind or
who or what to be your rationale to decide to
help that person who obviously needs help right in front
of you. Now, don't cuss him out because he's homeless.
Don't cuss him out because he leaves trash. Drop him
(52:21):
off ten dollars and some trash bags and tell him
if you'll fill the trash bags, we'll have somebody come
back by and pick him up. Take him to the trash.
Speaker 12 (52:31):
Huh, say, guess what.
Speaker 14 (52:34):
Maybe the reason he's dropping the trash is so that
you'll see him, because maybe if he's not inconvenience, then
you are offending you. You don't see him even know
that he might need some help.
Speaker 7 (52:44):
And and coming by with a donation and some trash
bags lets him know you saw him. Unless you know him,
know that he doesn't have to really sit in it
in order to make you see that he is sitting
in an uncomfortable and situation, and maybe you will be
able to go back by and refer him to some
(53:05):
of the resources that are available. One of the things
I know is because of mental illness and other circumstances
that make people resist the society's offers. We had a
gentleman here in the San Bernardino area several years ago,
known as the Sword. Sword. He was the one that
(53:29):
let me know that, you know, everybody that isn't living
and sleeping in a house, isn't homeless. Some of us
like to simply live outside. Well, Sword, I can I
understand it? And how do I tell the difference? I
don't I don't know. I don't know how to tell
the difference. So I'm here to help. I want to
(53:50):
be helpful. But he put that concept in my mind
and I said, boy, there's a lot of people who
would love to take that and just run with it
and say, oh, they're not homeless. They just want to
under they overpass and use plastic bags for covering and
make little shelters. No, come on, guys, that ain't the deal.
(54:11):
You know, we need to be able to help people,
and fortunately we do have people who've dedicated their lives
or are able to make their living helping folk who
need that help. And one of the things we can
do is make ourselves familiar with where those resources are,
so that if you are able to catch someone's eye
(54:36):
and as you give them a donation of financial support
or food support, give them a little information that may
be more permanent in its ability to assist. Find out
where your county resources are. Possibly go through some organization
and find out where you can refer people and refer them,
(55:00):
get their name and number, refer them. Some people are
going to convert their car into a little little cab
to take people to these resources. I don't know who's
going to do all of that, but I do know
that if I find an organization that wants to do that.
(55:23):
I have no problem sharing my meager income with them.
I value what I do every day, and I think
that what I do most of the time is helpful
and serviceable. And then there's acknowledging that I need my rest,
(55:44):
So I have to use other people's energy. People who
have dedicated themselves to supporting these issues, help them help others.
That's the other thing that we can do, is we
can help them help people help themselves. There's a United
(56:05):
Way probably in your area. Here in San Bernardino we
have the Arrowhead United Way. There's a United Way, I
believe in Fontana. There's a Salvation Army. Your reason for
not helping them to the Salvation Army. I've heard people say, well,
(56:27):
they make them pray in order to get food, in
order to spend the night, they make them pray. How
did somebody make you pray? Are you? I mean? Are
you gotta do? Is? If you don't want to pray,
you can bend your head over and pretend that you're praying.
Huh oh. Anyway, if you think that that is just
(56:48):
too much, I'm about.
Speaker 9 (56:51):
To say it.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
If you think that making somebody pray for a meal
is too much, then you really ought to be supplying
somebody with a meal. I mean, if you got nerve
enough to say, well, I don't know if I can
support the Salvation Army because of any reason. You need
to be able to come up with one of the
(57:14):
services that they provide, whether it's sleeping at night, or
helping people find a job, or helping her get on
some clean clothes, or but you can help. I'm not here.
I'm not here to preach for the whole hour. I
didn't mean to preach for the first half hour, and
I didn't know how I was. So Anthony reached in
his pocket and gave me a bucket, you know, and
(57:34):
said he was tithing. I don't know if he's trying
to make fun of me or not. I took the money. Michel.
I'm very impressed with what people in Jamaica are doing
for themselves. I'm impressed with what people who are in
need across the country are doing for themselves. I'm impressed
(57:57):
with how people are waking up in missed of this
campaign to keep them asleep. I'm impressed with the fact
that God has told enough of us on the planet
that tomorrow is coming, and the only way you will
get to the light of tomorrow is to go through
(58:19):
the darkness of today's of the night.
Speaker 14 (58:23):
And guess what, if you look up in the night,
you do see dark. It's not completely dark.
Speaker 7 (58:31):
That's that's like there you go. Even even mister Trump
this week demonstrated a couple of soft moments to let
you know that there is a heart beating in there somewhere,
and that's good to see. It's good to see that
(58:52):
he can feel some sense of something. And as far
as Marjorie Taylor Green, I'm hoping that she and miss
Crockett could get together. I would be a heck of
a team. I really don't like to see her miss
Green quit to Congress, but.
Speaker 14 (59:13):
Good for her to create a woman. The thing about
a woman, you know, is when a woman says to you,
I have had enough and I am leaving in too much,
too much to convince her to stay. Obviously, she wants
someone to convince her to stay, because she's letting you
(59:34):
know she's leaving. Because when a woman is really leaving,
the only way you find out is that you get
home and she's gone.
Speaker 7 (59:41):
Well, you know we're gonna find out that you're gone
because this this, this hour is gone, our time, our
time is gone. I have your phone number, so I'm
gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
The rest of you folks.
Speaker 7 (59:55):
You guys will miss Mischea until next week. And hm,
that's probably part of the joy of me naming her
Mische Wahloy. I love your daughter, I love you. People
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I know you told you that the wrong town. But
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we're blessed. Every moment that we are here, we get
an opportunity to make a choice to deal with the
fact that we are in a Should I go left?
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(09:12):
right to be done. We are here on the planet
being shared with many attitudes, many different approaches, many, many
kind people convince that their direction is the right direction.
And you if you're guided by the light that God
puts out every day, if you're guided by the truth
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that says every man should have the right to express himself,
every man should have the right to freedom, every man
should have the right to pursuit of love, life, happiness,
that every man and every woman should have that, And
that the universe does not circle around me or you,
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but around us, and the power of you is exhibited
best when we work it together. The answers to the
questions that we don't have answers to are with your
fellow man, your fellow sister, that other person who has
spent time going to the direction other than the direction
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you're going, so that they could understand information that you
don't understand and bring it back to where you are,
because hopefully you've done the same. And each one of us,
as we splinter out and go do what we do,
the power of what we do is most powerful when
we bring it back to the unit and we all
function and work together. That's all teamwork. Teamwork makes the
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dream work. And folks, we've got some dreams that really
really need to work right here in the United States
of America. We have a dream that we call it
in the Constitution. The gentleman who wrote that under the
influence of the women who influenced them, they blended together
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some pretty strong committed commitments to thought, some pretty strong
commitments to making something work that they could only dream about,
that they were not sure about. Mac mac Rome will
be joining us in a bit so that you I'm
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saying that so that you'll understand. You won't have to
hear my voice all day. I'm not going to sit
here and tell you how important it is to get
other people's opinions, and it's only allow you to hear mine.
We'll bring brother mac Rome men. We'll also bring in
Michael Archibald, Allen Mitchell, Allen Archibald Murray, my daughter, my
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East Coast representative of the thought and the attitude that
love is indeed the answer and the route and lane
that we should be occupying as we go forward. I
say that to say several things, one of them, as
I go back to the Constitution, and I go back
to what we have as a basis for our dream,
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our commitment to the future, the commitment to our children,
and our grandchildren that we will supply them with the country,
a nation, an opportunity to be themselves and in doing
so be empowered by the fact they are encouraging others
to be themselves. Folks, it ain't easy, but it is
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very easy. It's not easy because of our attitude. It's
not easy because we have such pride. It's not easy
because we decide that we need to be first in line.
It's not easy because we deal with the idea that
that's our parking spot. Things are made harder by the
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fact that we want to be treated better than the
next person. Oh, I know you do, because I do too.
But that's why I can understand and say thank you
when somebody allows me to be next in line, because
they say, hey, you come on in front of me.
And then I feel good enough at some point to
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continue that and tell somebody else, Hey, that's your parking spot.
Don't worry about me, I can find another. The little
sacrifices that we think we make are really investments in
the future. The little things that we do to be nice,
to be comfortable with ourselves because we've allowed someone else
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a comfort, those are rewards. Those are rewards. Those are
dividends being paid back to you because of your investment
into the pool of common sense, your investment into the
pool of kindness, your investment in to the pool of
service to others. Yes, my brother, it's time to love
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your brother for something other than what he can do
for you. Yes, it's time to make our master wish
come true. Oh what does that mean? That means that
as we sit at home thinking and dreaming about what
we particularly want for ourselves, that we should always and
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also think in terms of how convenient is my desire
if I get it all to the rest of the world.
I'm a lucky guy. I've generally lived in situations where
I've shared housing with others. Not just the beautiful wife
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or the wonderful kids or grandkids. But when I was
in college, you know, we live communally with learned how
to be a good roommate. Learned how to understand that
if I used it up, I should be able to
clean it up. Learned that if I'm gonna be eating
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it up, I need to be bringing it up. You know,
I can eat your popcorn as long as I'm gonna
be sure that you have some when you decide that
you want some so I might eat your popcorn up
in the middle of the night, but that's because I'm
going to go up early in the morning and be
sure you got some waiting for you when you decide
you want some. Being a good roommate, being a good housemate,
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being a good citizen. And that's all we're talking about,
being a good citizen, doing for others what you would
want them to do for you. I believe you know
I'm not the guy if you want to know what
chapter and verse and the Bible says about this, and that,
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I'm not that guy, unfortunately, but I do lean on
common sense and I and I think it's I think
it's a good thing. There's nothing common about common sense,
just like there's no guarantee that other people have read
and want to follow your scripture, whether it would be
from from your your book of Eli, your book of
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Jesus Christ, your book of Buddha, your book of Muslim
of Islam, uh, no matter to me which religion you have.
Your religion gives you an opportunity to see a portion
of God. And when we understand that we are only
seeing a portion of God, then we also realize the
importance of other people people's viewpoint. The other the fact
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that other people are in a position to fill in
the gaps and allow us to see what's really going
on so we could be who we really think needs
to that we need to be folks who are doing good. Though,
you know, it's not like we're in some kind of
hole where we don't get good examples of life and
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good things to encourage us to go forward and things
to challenge us to bring out the best in us.
I sit here and ride the anti Trump horse quite
a bit, But if I didn't have Trump to exemplify
the things that I think are not fully moving in
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the lane of great citizenship and moving in the lane
of sharing, and moving in the lane of caring and
representing and servicing people who have voted and elected you. Now,
he's a prime example of the person to me that
we don't want to be. But it doesn't mean doesn't
mean that I think he And this is you know,
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this is the forgiveness because no matter how much I
think my particular feelings about him are totally unique, I'm
sure there's somebody that feels the same about me, or
even worse, and just like I don't want to bear
their concept of justice, Praise the Lord. My concept of
justice is not the one that Trump will have to bear.
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As long as you leave me to let God be
my judge, who I'm gonna feel pretty good. And I
am quite willing to let God be the judge of
mister Trump in terms of his morality, in terms of
his use of the Great breath and oxygen and lifestyle
that God has given him, that's God. That's him and God.
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Now how his policy and how we work together, is
it just about him? It is about us? We can't.
I can't sit around and complain about what he does
unless I've got an idea of what should be done,
if it's not the same as what he is doing.
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So I can't talk about and doing a backwards tax
on people in the United States and talk about how
silly that is without having an idea of how the universe,
how in the United States there are our economy is
a potential beneficiary of a universal income, Well, well that's whatever.
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What is that You would just want to give people
money that don't work for it? Well, no, I understand.
If you are able to function in America, I mean
you have to work at being successfully homeless. If you're homeless.
You can't just die because you're homeless. Do you hear that?
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The reason you see homeless people is because they've figured
out how to survive that short period of time hopefully
that they will be homeless. That's tenacity. You need to
give those folks credit. The people who deserve and who
should be under the care of some mental counselor with
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some type of sheltered living situation because of their mental status.
But they're able to get out there and anyway, able
to figure out or be blessed some kind of way
to eat every other day if necessary, and find a
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place to sleep halfway safely, and more importantly, to give
us an example to look at every day in wonder,
are we consciously taking care of those who need care?
That's the biggest statement that homeless people, poor people provide
is our Are we, the people who are not in
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that situation, going to be so so prideful, so empowered,
so entitled that we can eat, we can have a
place to live, we can have a wonderful lifestyle and
do it right next to some poor wretched soul who
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can't eat, doesn't have a place to live and sleep.
But we're gonna walk right by him every day, just
like he's normally and expected to be there, just like
a tree or you know, or like a stump, or
like a bush, or like a bird or like a
squirrel or oh, he's just homeless. Guy. Here, here's fifty cents,
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here's a buck, here's fifty dollars, one hundred dollars. Won't
do whatever it is. They need a solution. But at
the same time they need a solution they are aggravating
in aspect of your solitude, of your comfort that needs
to be aggravated. As long as there's one, two, three
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people out there without and the rest of us have,
we have to do better. You should cough, and I
I started to say choke, but I don't want to
shoo to choke. But you should cough almost every time
you get ready to eat, just knowing that there are
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people on the planet who haven't, you know, in days,
had real nourishment. I'm trying to tell you how strong
we are. I'm not telling to tell you how weak
we are. I'm trying to tell you how strong we are.
We can change these things immediately. We don't have to
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wait until the storm comes or the flood comes or
the tornado or the hurricane, in order to see that
there are people who are in need, Because there are
people who are in need long before the hurricane comes.
There are people who are in need and able to
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show you how your power is better used by being
the recipients of God's pain, waiting for the delivery of
God's grace through you and me. That's the question, that's
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the principle. That's the thing we provide every time we decide.
Remember now, we started with the idea that we've had
decisions that we can make every day all day. We're
presented every day with an opportunity to change the world,
our world, the world of someone else. And quite frankly,
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if you're sitting hungry and homeless, it doesn't take a
whole lot to change your world. Hero sitting there waiting
to find the place to exhibit your desire to actually fly.
You want to be Superman, but I need to fly.
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You can be Superman with a good, strong meal ticket,
be Superman with a willingness to help somebody find a
place to sleep safely. Now as I get into this,
I know of the weather thing that's gonna come up,
and I know it comes up with you, because it
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comes up with me. And I know I'm a good guy.
I don't want to have to share my bathroom. Gosh,
I want to sleep in my bed. Reminds me of
a story. Let me salute mother, Mother Herndon, her son, Jerry,
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are you a friend of mine? One of my first
friends when I moved into San Bernardino, and it's friends.
Matter of fact, one of his great friends was a
brother named Frank Stalworth that many of us know. I'm
talking history now, but Frank used to come and visit
Jerry as a child, spend the night. And Mother Herndon says,
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you're welcome, and she was always welcoming. And Jerry said,
you know, Mom made us sleep on the floor when
we had guests. We gave up our bed if you want.
If you want an overnight guest, you have to treat
him right. Treat him right, give him your bed. You
sleep on the floor. And Jerry loved Frank so much
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he didn't think about it. Slept on the floor. Great example.
Tribute to three people that I have great respect for.
Mother heard it, her son, Jerry, his friend Frank Stormworth.
Great people. All of us have our idiosyncrasies in our feelings.
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Nobody's perfect, and as far as I know, only one
person walk the water under documentation. So all of that
to say, we have the opportunity to do better, we
should do better, and I'm gonna take a short break.
We come back, we will hopefully be able to talk
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with mister Macrome, and we'll also get a chance to
hear from the East Coast. I didn't mean to preach,
but if my preaching made you decide that you want
to tithe, we are willing to accept what. Okay, well,
let's don't do that. All right, fine, all right, cool,
love you guys. We're gonna take a very short break
and we'll be right back. Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (27:39):
So no bunkoo me to thing you I'm meeting so bunk.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Full me.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm meeting to bunk do tell them the way I'm
meeting bunk you.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
We are back. This is Empire Talks Background Wallace Allen
here on the case for truth and justice with the
right information to help improve the situation and Talks Back
is brought to you by the Improved Association, where we
work to bring our community resources together for the benefit
of our individuals in the community. It's a blessing to
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be able to serve mische are you there?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I am, I am.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
That's a beauty. It's like hearing hearing the little bells,
the little bells that ding dong ding do many Ripperton bells.
Speaker 14 (28:39):
Those are just beautiful bells.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Voicemails. Oh yeah, yeah, I know. I know how to
grab at your heart, don't I I know how to
make you make you look, make make you look up
to the left, you know, and say, oh my goodness,
he said. Many ripper find.
Speaker 14 (28:57):
Find so many er in there, Eric, but and and
make me take back all the days that I complained
when you would take my Jackson five record off the
record player and put on many represent and I would
roll my eyes because I was only four. So but
before we go any further, I have some really special
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news that I want to miss stress your right away
because everyone within the range of the sound of the
show now has the opportunity to get some firsthand views
and knowledge and also entertainment from Jamaica right now on
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YouTube live on the JCDC Jamaica YouTube channel, the IRI
FM YouTube channel, the PBC Jamaica YouTube channel. I'll post
them all on the Instagram. But happening right now from
one pm Eastern Time to seven pm Eastern Time is
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the I Love Jamaica Telethon and Virtual Concert coming to
you live from Jamaica with entertainers like Beanie Man, Tanya Stevens,
Christopher Martin, Nadine Sutherlands, or Riley ding Dong, Jamaicans who
are on the ground in Jamaica helping to rebuild and
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build back.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 14 (30:27):
So yeah, yeah, So I wanted to make sure you
know so that you don't miss a moment of a
really good show and also just some immediate feedback, firsthand
feedback from Jamaicans on the ground. And I know it's
important because the other thing is that I don't know
if you all are aware of this, but in the
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United States, the Jamaican diaspora community is over a million people.
So we have over a million Jamaican Jamaican descendants who
live here legally in America. And so this is all
your friends that have the Jamaican restaurant down the street,
the one you went to school. All of you together
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right now can get on YouTube and be the show
and also be able to contribute because it is a telethon,
so you will be able to pledge funds that goes
toward the rebuilding efforts that is massively underway thanks to
World Central Kitchen, American Friends of Jamaica, the Bob and
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Rita Marley Foundation. Some of our favorite entertainers Maxi Priest,
Tom Petty, twenty One Savage, Winnie Harlow Diplow have been
on the ground are already jumped into the fundraising efforts.
So this is something that you can hear them.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
You can hear them a little bit in the background.
Now Eric has pulled it up, Maeric Fetter Factor, give
it a little volume. There, Rook is on the way. So there,
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So where is this taking place to stage itself, Missie?
Speaker 14 (32:24):
In Kingston, Jamaica. In Kingston, Jamaica, right right at one
of the television one of the television studios. There on
the ground, you'll see Marthia Griffith. You'll see a lot
of your favorites. But more than that, like I said,
you'll get some direct news, not just on how devastating
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it has been. I think at this point we are
very very familiar with the devastation and it's going to
be that way for a long time. We got rain
the other day that caused more flooding. There are things
called groundwater that I didn't know what that was, but
it's it's similar to what happened and after Hurricane Katrina,
where the ground gets so saturated that somehow like the
water comes up from the ground and floods certain places.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Again.
Speaker 14 (33:09):
But we have but.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
With that you as you described that, you also brought
to my attention that this is creating new springs, new
new creeks, uh possibly ultimately new river But that's that's
that's that's a new source. It's it's it's interesting that
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devastation h gives us the challenge to realize the the
opportunity that it has bring that it brings. Nature revitalizes
itself through these activities, and we as people have to
figure out how we can, you know, revive ourselves and
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revitalize ourselves at the same time.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
Well, we were created to do so. I think what
we learned from nature is that the same way that
God created nature to be self sustaining and when necessary,
self preserving, even it just means it has to kick
some of the people out of certain areas because of
the way it's being treated. We were also created our
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selves regenerate. You know, we have systems in our body,
and so we have a nervous system, and the nervous
system and the way it responds to the things that
happen around us determine how quickly and how well we rebuild.
So it's a way of just continuing to see how
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we were made and how wonderfully we were made, and
that if we can sometimes just push through the heart emotion,
we actually get to a better place. Anyone who's given
birth knows this because when you've had to push through
some art situations. Well there you go, really really wonderful.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
There you go, you said, said half the world over
on one side here because we definitely from the man thing.
Speaker 14 (35:05):
Don't understand that part, yeah, but you know the benefit
is and the truth of it. We don't understand that
part either. We don't understand your part, but we as
long as we can respect it and appreciate it, then
that's half of that. What I understand is that God
is so humongous and God is so big that when
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he went to make humankind in his own image, couldn't
put it all into one type of body. God didn't
get in one type of body. Everything God is had
to be split up into these two, you know.
Speaker 11 (35:38):
And if we.
Speaker 14 (35:39):
Can respect that and understand and appreciate how we need
one another because we were created to intergrate and interact
with one another, it's a good thing, you know. But
you know, yeah, I'm thankful.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
That's that's the main Thing's to be woke, awake and
not paralyzed by the fear or the anxiety that is
created by newness, by the appearance of the unexpected. And
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when we are no matter how old, no matter how
long we've been here, we are able to see something
of the cake coming out of the oven. I'd rather
hear the doorbell where the cake is being delivered. But
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I understand it. It's got a you know, it's got
a sequence that it takes place. Mishrah, your experience and
love for Jamaica is of something that I can understand.
But you spent many years in Jamaica. You are back
and forth in Jamaica. You're much of your childhood with
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spinning Jamaica. You have a love for Jamaica that that
is earned very deeply. But at the same time, you
have the experience of being so much brought up on
the mainland of the United States that being able to
compare the access to resources in one place in terms
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of material resources access to resources in another place, referring
to the spiritual, there is a richness in both places
that allows us to see a poorness in both places.
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So just saying we need each other because the nature
the spiritual.
Speaker 14 (37:56):
Yes, we are literally family. I think it's important to
know before I even go into it. Because one of
the things I wanted to highlight for our family in California,
because having been born in Los Angeles, and growing up
no Northern Cali, Southern cal living in so many different places.
What I tend to say is that I am a
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California girl with Southern roots and a Caribbean twist. And
I'm really proud that, in addition to all of the
health and assistance that has been coming from all over
the world, that we have actually had Los Angeles County
Fire Department teams on the ground in Jamaica to assist
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with search and rescue. And I thought it was important
because all the other things that are happening in the news,
and I get it, it's relevant. It's important news. You know,
the waking, the awakening of Marjorie Taylor Green, the you know,
the craziness of her boss, that she is now to
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the point where she's referring to herself as a battered
wife to him, Bless her heart. But I think it's
also important to know that America, Yes, gave a lot
of money to Argentina, and yes, we've had the Saudi
Arabian prints in the White House, and these things have
been happening, but quietly, and I don't know why it's quiet.
The United States has also provided disaster assistance, not just
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to Jamaica, but to Cuba, to Haiti, to the Bahamas.
They've deployed what we have here is called the Disaster
Assistance Response Team and from Fairfax County in La County
Urban Search and Rescue Teams. They've pledged more than twelve
point six million additional disaster assistance and so now the
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grand total is thirty seven million dollars. They've sent over
five hundred and thirty thousand pounds of relief commodities, food,
drinking water, shelter supplies. They've lent their helicopters, twelve thousand
parts shelter kits.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
So I mean there's help, it's.
Speaker 14 (40:08):
Still helping to meet the needs. I think it's important
for us to be able, you know, to talk about that.
America is supporting the Bahamas Red Cross Society to provide
shelter and water there. They've distributed food to twelve thousand,
seven hundred people in Haiti. So I mean the thing
about America similar to the thing about Jamaica, because quite frankly,
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no nation is perfect, and every government is far from imperfect,
is far from perfect, but there's something about the spirit
of its people, the Jamaican people, the American people at
our heart and our core. That as frustrated as I
can get sometimes with people on the ground or governments
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or different things, the spirit always kind of brings us
back together. And that's what I mean by we're family.
And I think it's important also to understand that historically
on the Middle Passage, the captured Africans who were the
most resistant of the ones they called troublemakers because they
kept trying to escape or kept trying to revolt. Jamaica
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was one of the first stops in the Atlantic, and
so they dropped off the troublemakers. They said, well, we
cannot No they did because they said, well, we're not
gonna be able to sell them in Virginia. They make
too much noise. They got scars on them now.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
They you know.
Speaker 14 (41:31):
So they would leave them there like that's it, We've
had enough. And so then some of their same brothers
and sisters though, made it to the United States. So
again we're family. And then about that in Jamaica, I
stopped and think about it a lot, because I wonder
how those Africans must have felt because they look out
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and they can't see land. Now they finally do sea land,
and I wonder if some of them are wondering, if
I swim far enough, or I climb high enough, I'm
gonna end up back at home. And what that frustration
muks to felt like. And so you have that deeply
rooted in your DNA. Then you have piracy, then you
have colonization, you have slavery, and art in the midst
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of all that treatment. Though, somehow these people, after everything
they've been through. And by the way, freedom by decree
is a whole different set of trauma than freedom by
revolution or whatever we called it over here during the
Civil War, and I think we should look at it
at one point. But I say that to say, these
people who have been through so much, who have endured
so much, found a way to have a joy and
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a spirituality that has given us culturally some of the
greatest art, not just the music the reggae music, but
I mean art in the world from that little bitty
place that's been through so much. And I think it's
a testimony again to our spirits. And so the fact
that Jamaica right now is lifting itself up with the
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same music that it has used to uplift so many
people around the world today from one o'clock to seven,
And I'm gonna say it again because I really want
people to even if you're not able to contribute financially,
those views actually help you, know, to to just it
and enjoy some of the music and see these people,
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and see these entertainers, some of who have lost their homes.
They have family members who've lost lost their roots. A
really good friend of mine, the only reason she didn't
lose power on her house is because it's the new
house that is completely solar. And the reason it's the
new house is because two years ago her house burned
to the ground while she was away on tour. And
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speaking of resources, they don't have nine to one one
in Jamaica that can get to you with a fire
truck quickly enough to save your home in a lot
of places. So you know, just like you said that
thinks there's trouble before the storm, the struggle people who
survived that trouble are the ones who are then prepared
to help others when the storm come. So again, it all,
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it all brings us back together.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Well, let's the parallel between the troublemakers that were left
to help build Jamaica's attitude. We're the same type of
troublemakers that were expelled from England to come to the
United States. And the thing that changes or that bubbles
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up out of that experience, the experience of being the
ones who have caused enough trouble. The Marjorie Taylor Green
caused enough trouble to have to be reborn again somewhere
means that's there's an opportunity there.
Speaker 14 (45:01):
Yeah, And guess what I prayed for, Marjorie Taylor Green.
I've prayed every day. I learned a long time ago
because I had a mother who told me that we
shouldn't hate people right, And somewhere along the way, I
got into this thing of praying for the people who
are annoying me or disturbing me the most, and my
prayer simply became similar to what I pray for people
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I love, is that they would wake up to the
truth of who they are spiritually, who they are to God,
who God is to them, because I figure, if you
wake up and really know that, then you don't feel
like you have to take something from someone else in
order to have something. You don't feel like you've got
to fight for a space that you obviously already occupy
(45:44):
because you're standing and breathing in it. So I say,
as much as we criticize people, and they need to
be criticized, and some of them do need to be
stopped in their tracks, and some of them, you know, well, hey,
that's the uh. You know, I won't go down far,
but I just say have to say that, you know,
(46:07):
we've got to give people opportunity, and we've got to
hope that they get some sense because we can't grab everybody.
We can't lock up everybody. We can't. So some of
them we just have to really look at, especially in
positions of power and authority, and just pray they get
some dug one sent Yeah.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah. And at the same time, we have to understand
that the uh, the achademy seems to be the way
God set it up. You know, He made night and
day left and right up and down, and you have
to merge those at some point. That's why we look
at the morning as the as the morning as the
(46:43):
night gradually becomes the light.
Speaker 9 (46:46):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
That little period of time where they are merging seems
to be the people say, ah, the best time of
today is daybreak, or the best time of the day
is sunset. As we blend the extremes together, but the
extremes are definitely necessary.
Speaker 14 (47:08):
Uh well, they are integrated and they work together in
a process. Two of my favorite songs in the Whole
World won by Diane Reeves where she say, you can't
get to know better days unless you make it through
the night. And then of course you know the wonderful
song by the Whinings and Anita Baker. Ain't no need
(47:29):
to worry what the night is gonna bring, because it'll
be all over in the morning. We need day and
we need night. Important things happen in the night that
help make the day do what the day needs.
Speaker 7 (47:40):
That's right. And and that's that's where I'm gonna go
again with mister Trump. As much as they talk about
don't be woke, he has caused a lot of people
to wake up at.
Speaker 14 (47:53):
The same time not have otherwise done.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 14 (47:56):
We had to wake up because we had to realize,
guess what. We can't just sit back and assume that
people are going to do the right thing. We can't
assume that, you know, just because it's the right thing
and the nice thing and the easy thing, someone's going
to do it. We realize that we have to now
actually participate in our government. We have to participate in
(48:19):
our communities, We have to participate in the raising of
our children, because the people that we thought were going
to help with it are crazy, no, And we needed
to know that.
Speaker 7 (48:29):
You just mentioned it brought up the fact that is
simply watching this telethon can support the redemption rebirth of Jamaica.
So when we tell people to participate, let's exemplify for
(48:50):
them some of the simple things that they can do.
I mean, and that's most simple. If you've got a
computer or a TV set, you can you can support Jamaica,
and probably you can donate. I would imagine you watching
them today might amount to five five dollars donation in
terms of how it's actually going to affect their the
(49:14):
flow of money from from the stream exactly. So if
we've got a million people here in the southern California
area that suspend some time watching this show, we could
actually say we donated five million dollars to the cost.
Speaker 14 (49:32):
Yeah, or you know what else we can do.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
The beauty of it.
Speaker 14 (49:36):
Is the same way that we tend to just have
on being in in the background HSN in the background,
BT in the background. You can put this YouTube telethon
on in the background. Do you have a smart TV
or on your phone and you can just you can
come in and out of what you're doing and you
(49:58):
can just let it. You can just let it play.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
Yeah, as handsome as Anthony my mood master is and
you know, some people say they like, like my little jacket,
We're gonna take that off and and just roll with
the telethon. In terms of our view to the public here,
I think that's a good thing to do. And writing
a letter, I don't know if there's you know, like
(50:24):
with Santa Claus, there's a place you could write a
letter and you know it would go to quote unquote
Santa Claus. H it'd be interesting if we were able
to get some letters of support to Jamaica or of.
Speaker 14 (50:40):
Supporting the future. In the comments, you can say I'm
with you in the comments. You can say I'm praying
for you. In the comments, you can say, you know
you're lifting me up while you're lifting yourself up, so
I'm gonna list you up. You can say I'm praying
for you. You can say I'm so happy that you are
(51:00):
still able to find a song in what you're going
through you can say.
Speaker 7 (51:05):
I see you boy.
Speaker 14 (51:07):
You can just put in a happy space most you
prayer hands. If your people a few words, you know,
these phones have now made it easy for you.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
That's right. So if you've been, if you've been, if
you are a social media person, you know how to
pile up some congratulations to this teleton. You know how
to tell your friends and neighbors that suffering is not
something that should be done alone, and we can do
(51:37):
something to make those who are suffering feel better. And
maybe in general hashtag something that that salutes Jamaica, reminds
people to be kind and do it in the name
of Jamaica. All of that makes sense. And I'll tell
you what. I don't care who or what you decide
(51:59):
to be. He uses your rationale to be kind or
who or what to be your rationale to decide to
help that person who obviously needs help right in front
of you. Now, don't cuss him out because he's homeless.
Don't cuss him out because he leaves trash. Drop him
(52:21):
off ten dollars and some trash bags and tell him
if you'll fill the trash bags, we'll have somebody come
back by and pick him up. Take him to the trash.
Speaker 12 (52:31):
Huh, say, guess what.
Speaker 14 (52:34):
Maybe the reason he's dropping the trash is so that
you'll see him, because maybe if he's not inconvenience, then
you are offending you. You don't see him even know
that he might need some help.
Speaker 7 (52:44):
And and coming by with a donation and some trash
bags lets him know you saw him. Unless you know him,
know that he doesn't have to really sit in it
in order to make you see that he is sitting
in an uncomfortable and situation, and maybe you will be
able to go back by and refer him to some
(53:05):
of the resources that are available. One of the things
I know is because of mental illness and other circumstances
that make people resist the society's offers. We had a
gentleman here in the San Bernardino area several years ago,
known as the Sword. Sword. He was the one that
(53:29):
let me know that, you know, everybody that isn't living
and sleeping in a house, isn't homeless. Some of us
like to simply live outside. Well, Sword, I can I
understand it? And how do I tell the difference? I
don't I don't know. I don't know how to tell
the difference. So I'm here to help. I want to
(53:50):
be helpful. But he put that concept in my mind
and I said, boy, there's a lot of people who
would love to take that and just run with it
and say, oh, they're not homeless. They just want to
under they overpass and use plastic bags for covering and
make little shelters. No, come on, guys, that ain't the deal.
(54:11):
You know, we need to be able to help people,
and fortunately we do have people who've dedicated their lives
or are able to make their living helping folk who
need that help. And one of the things we can
do is make ourselves familiar with where those resources are,
so that if you are able to catch someone's eye
(54:36):
and as you give them a donation of financial support
or food support, give them a little information that may
be more permanent in its ability to assist. Find out
where your county resources are. Possibly go through some organization
and find out where you can refer people and refer them,
(55:00):
get their name and number, refer them. Some people are
going to convert their car into a little little cab
to take people to these resources. I don't know who's
going to do all of that, but I do know
that if I find an organization that wants to do that.
(55:23):
I have no problem sharing my meager income with them.
I value what I do every day, and I think
that what I do most of the time is helpful
and serviceable. And then there's acknowledging that I need my rest,
(55:44):
So I have to use other people's energy. People who
have dedicated themselves to supporting these issues, help them help others.
That's the other thing that we can do, is we
can help them help people help themselves. There's a United
(56:05):
Way probably in your area. Here in San Bernardino we
have the Arrowhead United Way. There's a United Way, I
believe in Fontana. There's a Salvation Army. Your reason for
not helping them to the Salvation Army. I've heard people say, well,
(56:27):
they make them pray in order to get food, in
order to spend the night, they make them pray. How
did somebody make you pray? Are you? I mean? Are
you gotta do? Is? If you don't want to pray,
you can bend your head over and pretend that you're praying.
Huh oh. Anyway, if you think that that is just
(56:48):
too much, I'm about.
Speaker 9 (56:51):
To say it.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
If you think that making somebody pray for a meal
is too much, then you really ought to be supplying
somebody with a meal. I mean, if you got nerve
enough to say, well, I don't know if I can
support the Salvation Army because of any reason. You need
to be able to come up with one of the
(57:14):
services that they provide, whether it's sleeping at night, or
helping people find a job, or helping her get on
some clean clothes, or but you can help. I'm not here.
I'm not here to preach for the whole hour. I
didn't mean to preach for the first half hour, and
I didn't know how I was. So Anthony reached in
his pocket and gave me a bucket, you know, and
(57:34):
said he was tithing. I don't know if he's trying
to make fun of me or not. I took the money. Michel.
I'm very impressed with what people in Jamaica are doing
for themselves. I'm impressed with what people who are in
need across the country are doing for themselves. I'm impressed
(57:57):
with how people are waking up in missed of this
campaign to keep them asleep. I'm impressed with the fact
that God has told enough of us on the planet
that tomorrow is coming, and the only way you will
get to the light of tomorrow is to go through
(58:19):
the darkness of today's of the night.
Speaker 14 (58:23):
And guess what, if you look up in the night,
you do see dark. It's not completely dark.
Speaker 7 (58:31):
That's that's like there you go. Even even mister Trump
this week demonstrated a couple of soft moments to let
you know that there is a heart beating in there somewhere,
and that's good to see. It's good to see that
(58:52):
he can feel some sense of something. And as far
as Marjorie Taylor Green, I'm hoping that she and miss
Crockett could get together. I would be a heck of
a team. I really don't like to see her miss
Green quit to Congress, but.
Speaker 14 (59:13):
Good for her to create a woman. The thing about
a woman, you know, is when a woman says to you,
I have had enough and I am leaving in too much,
too much to convince her to stay. Obviously, she wants
someone to convince her to stay, because she's letting you
(59:34):
know she's leaving. Because when a woman is really leaving,
the only way you find out is that you get
home and she's gone.
Speaker 7 (59:41):
Well, you know we're gonna find out that you're gone
because this this, this hour is gone, our time, our
time is gone. I have your phone number, so I'm
gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
The rest of you folks.
Speaker 7 (59:55):
You guys will miss Mischea until next week. And hm,
that's probably part of the joy of me naming her
Mische Wahloy. I love your daughter, I love you. People
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