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Speaker 8 (06:23):
Wow, that's that's as smooth. Oh yeah, very smooth. Not
like our president. He's got some rough edges. I'll tell
you what. If he's got rough edges, that means we
have rough edges. We cannot depend on him to smooth
out our sheets, and we certainly cannot touch his. The

(06:46):
deal is, I'm concerned about Venezuela. Why why are you
worried about Venezuela? Because he's got us looking at Venezuela
as if you know this war attitude, war on drugs.
We've always stated that you know in the community who
says it's a war on black folk or on people
of color. And he's extended that. He blames Venezuela. He's

(07:10):
shooting him and killing him and now getting ready to
put our troops on the ground in Venezuela. He's already
has them on the ground here in the United States,
facing down the citizens who have been elected him. We
don't approve, most people don't approve. But he doesn't give
a fat rat's elbow about that part of it. He is,

(07:31):
indeed the man who wants to be in charge forever,
not because being in charge forever is a great thing
to do for one's ego, but it certainly helps one
stay out of jail when one deserves to be in jail.
He was on his way to jail when he got elected,

(07:51):
and he certainly demonstrated his fear on January sixth by
turning loose his group of thugs. And now he wants
to arrest other people for doing things much less than
what they did, so, you know, and once again, those

(08:12):
are the wrinkles in his sheet, and we can't do
too much about it. He enjoys sleeping on him, I'm sure,
but whether we continue to let him sleep peacefully or
not is up to us. We need to continue to
shout through the windows through the night, all night long,
time to dump Trump, Time to dump Trump. But we

(08:33):
have such strong local issues that are just kind of
hard to reach all the way to Washington, d C.
And worry about dumping Trump when you don't have enough
money to be sure you're going to get your garbage dumped,
you know, because if we don't pay your garbage, billy'll
and if you don't pay your grocery bill, you won't
have any garbage to throw away. You know, we're in
a rough situation. Not everybody. Now, don't get me wrong.

(08:55):
A lot of people are doing well, you know, but
the big issue is that we're all could be driving
down the freeway doing well, and it doesn't take but
one idiot or one accident or one circumstance to slow
the whole flow. Everybody moving along smoothly, and all of

(09:16):
a sudden, we've got one homeless person, one poor person,
one person who's not able to pay attention in school,
one person who you know. So we in a civilized nation,
we deal not just for the majority. We use a
majority's power to handle and deal for the poor, the hungry,

(09:39):
to shut out. That's what civilization is. We're not just
here to demonstrate that I can kick your and you
know therefore I can take your or it's about I
understand that we need each other to make a complete
communication circle, and we need each other to make a
society that is going to be successful. Ask the quarterback

(10:02):
how great it is to pass the ball to somebody
who can't catch, And that's where we are, you know,
We're passing the ball to a president who refuses to
get on the field, put on a uniform, be part
of the team. At all, He says, No, I'm just
going to tell you the score, and I'll tell you
how we got there later, and I'm going to tell
you who wins and who loses. But Wall, that's kind

(10:24):
of a vague description. Well that's how help us you
and I really are as individuals. If we don't get
together as a team and say what's really going on
and what we really want to do, we're left to
the whom and whirl of somebody who is trying to
stay out of jail. We wiles. You keep trying to

(10:46):
simplify this and say, this guy's just trying to stay
out of jail. Well, there's some things he's done pretty good. Okay,
what is it? What do you do with Okay, we
don't have people flooding across the border. Okay, that sounds good.
But you know, I don't know if you've checked the
price of grap slot yet. I don't know if you've

(11:07):
checked the price of letters. I don't know if you've
checked the prices of getting anything done that may take
the need or the work effort of people who come
across the border to work. They're not doing it like
they were. They're being terrified terrorized, and their friends and

(11:30):
neighbors are starting to pay attention to saying whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I thought you were
going to come in here and take care of the
crooks and the you know, the rough guys and the
hardcore drug dealers. But I see you're just still after
the same people who've been subjected to responding to how

(11:51):
poor and unaffordable the world is, how poor they are
and getting along, and how they're forced to do things
that maybe on the questionable side in terms of getting Oh,
you said, just fact that they're here, they're illegal, that's
enough for you.

Speaker 10 (12:09):
Man.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Come on, It's like driving down the freeway at seventy
miles an hour when the freeway sign says sixty five.
Everybody's doing it, But somehow you can go pick somebody
out and say, well, no, I don't like the way
you're doing it. And plus, you know, you've seem to
be a little dark, darker, complexed, makes it a little
easier for me to identify you. And besides, you know,

(12:32):
I'm not sure if I like the way you talk.
You know, you're not speaking the King's English, the King's English. Yeah,
you're not talking Trump talk. He's the King. Well, folks,
I'm not giving up, and I don't think you should
eat it. But the point is that we need to
get together and we need to understand that our politics
start much closer to us than Washington, d C. If

(12:56):
you don't have an idea of what you want to
have take place in your community, then you're subject to
being confused whenever they send anything in that you you know,
I didn't know they were going to do that. And
if you're not in touch with your city council person,
if you're not in touch with your county supervisor, if
you're not in touch with your commissioner who's representing you

(13:18):
under various commissions at your city, you know, there's chances
that you don't know what to do when your garbage
isn't collected. There's chances you don't know what to do
when you have an issue at the school district. There's
chances you don't know what to do if there's potholes
on the streets in front of your house. So what

(13:42):
does that mean, Well, it means you didn't pay attention
in civics class if you had a chance to go
to school. But that doesn't mean mean much. They still
should be giving you instructions. They still should be giving
you information. You should still have a way of finding
out what your city is doing with your little tax money.
You know, none of us are paying a super tax,

(14:03):
but a tax is a tax, and when a tax
becomes an attack on your life style, you know you
need to wake up. So we have some obligations that
go along with our opportunities. That says we can't just
blame mister Trump because he decides he wants to stay

(14:24):
out of jail. Who doesn't want to stay out of jail? Right,
I don't want to go to jail. And if I
were him, but i'd be doing what he's doing. I
don't know. I can't say what I would be doing
in his skin. I can't say it, but I can
say that I don't approve of it from here, but
I understand it. But understanding it doesn't mean I want
to stand under it. So we've got to work together

(14:46):
to figure out how to as far as I'm concerned,
not wait until the big election cycle that we are
looking so forward to that he's doing everything he can
to be sure doesn't even occur. And this is a
couple of elections between now and there's an election this
coming week in Tennessee. If he loses that when he

(15:07):
made that's just other people will say, well, you know,
that's going to show him he's out of line. No,
that's going to show him he needs to stand up
a little taller him. He may decide that he actually
wants to maybe have a bigger war in Venezuela. You know,
maybe he wants to, I don't know. Same time he

(15:27):
wants to get rid of Venezuela. He wants to pardon
the ex president of Honduras, who has admitted that he's
a drug dealer. He said, he said, Man, I want
to pack everybody, everybody that's Scott knows in America. I
want to pack it with cocaine and drive him crazy.
Trump wants to pardon this guy. Same time he's saying, well,

(15:51):
I want to. I'm going to put Madero in jail.
The president of Venezuela. Put him in jail. He's a
drug dealer. I'd say, and protect either one of them necessarily,
but be consistent, you know, and then then you've got you. Anyway,
We're blessed, toy. I've got a couple of wonderful guests.
I have mister Lotte Wilson. He's committed. Hey, he's committed

(16:14):
himself to community service long before you or I, you know,
heard that he maybe running from mayor or a city council
or something like that. But I'll tell you what, whatever
he's running for, he's going to run hard and uh
and if he gets elected, he's going to work hard.
And then we have mishwa Alan Murray calling in or

(16:38):
we've got her in on the on the East coast
of America handling that aspect of our empire talking back.
You know, when we put the Empire Talks back together,
initially we were talking about the Empire responding to how
we are the little step brother sometimes for the southern

(16:59):
California mark known as Los Angeles. And you know, for
a long time they would simply refer to us as
the place where fires occurred, or murders occurred, or other
bad things occurred. But they have to admit that most
of their people who are leaving Los Angeles are coming
to the inland that bar Why because it is the

(17:19):
most beautiful place on the planet. You know, we're fifty
miles from the ocean, We're a few miles from the snow.
We're right close to the desert, and we've got beautiful
people who love, love the Lord, and love the land
who are living here. But now the empire talks back.
Has to do more with the pretended emperor that is

(17:45):
taken over our country and our morals. How could the
devil come in, walk into into Heaven's gate and turn
these angels around as quick as he's done it. I
don't know, except you know, that's what they call the
antich Right, we'll see how that goes. We're gonna take
a short break and when I come back, we're gonna
speak to Mishwood. We'll get a chance to speak to

(18:06):
mister Latte Wilson, the Teylan, our king of service here
in the community, has done so many things for so
many years to help people that if those people, if
have those people are registered to voting in San Berndino,
we may be talking to our next whoever he decides
to be. I don't know, he said, mayor, but mayor mayor. Okay,

(18:28):
there we go. This is n Parwad talks back. Our
Wallas Allen blessed to be here with you this morning.
Despite the fact of having eaten a bunch of rum
cake made by this young lady that's gonna be on
the phone with us in a little bit. I'm not
gonna admonish her for that. I'm just gonna admonish her
for not sending more. God bless you. We'll be right
back after this shortbreak.

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Speaker 8 (19:56):
All right, we're back. This is in paradox back on
Wallas Sally. You are you and I depend on you
to continue being you. And care about you and yourself
and your neighbors and your great family. And I expect
that your morals are going to stand up and make
you say what's good and what's bad, and what's right
and what's wrong, and you're not going to shy away

(20:17):
from it. So part of this is that we want
to be good to you. We want to say things
that aggravate you to a certain extent. We want to
shake your mind up a little bit and make it.
And I just think that you know, somewhere in the
in the conversation this morning, you wanted somebody out there
to say, wow, I didn't know that, or dang, wow,

(20:40):
that's too bad, or whoa, maybe I could do something
to help her, maybe just fall out laughing because we
finally said something that was so on point that you
had to laugh to keep from crying. Mister Wilson, how
are you this morning?

Speaker 10 (20:55):
I'm doing great, sir. How are you doing?

Speaker 8 (20:57):
God is great. I'm extremely grateful. Thank you for asking. Man.
God is the greatest. Absolutely, absolutely, you don't have to
And there's that. There's that, Miss Michel, how are you
this morning?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Sweetheartan Well, it's afternoon here and I'm good I'm good.
It's it's been a it's been a good well, it's
good every day, it's a good day. But on top
of that, this has been a really really good time.
You know, your your your grandsons are are.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Granding and all of my grandsons are old enough to
eat your rum cake too, right.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, And you know what's funny, the younger ones, they
don't they prefer they prefer chocolate still. You know, it's funny.
I mean, they made a little bit, but they don't really,
I don't. I think they take it for granted because
one of the reasons that I started baking from scratch
was that as a working mom, being able to take

(21:56):
that time, you know, and and really put something into
them that really came from my hands versus a cake
out of a box and them watching me and taking
the time to take out the eggs, take out the flour,
take out the fresh ingredients. It was kind of like

(22:17):
that extra hour to give them something sweet made me feel,
you know, more connected to them and made them feel
like they were really getting something that they couldn't get
just anywhere. And I think because they've grown up with
it now, they're kind of like, yeah, mom, mom gives
me that. What they like to do, though, is come

(22:38):
and say, mom, my friend Alex wants to know can
he have some cake her mom, you know, Rebecca, Rebecca's
getting married, and she said, could you make her some
mac and cheese for her baby shower? Because you know,
mac and cheese is community and you know, so it's
I love the fact that they love giving what what

(22:59):
I've got.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
You've You've made a very important statement when you spoke
of ingredients as opposed to finished product. And I think
that's one of the things that we often forget is important.
We are looking for the finished product without paying attention
to the ingredient. As we look for good politicians, as

(23:22):
we good look for good social actions, as we look
for a good society that is functioning for everybody, we
tend to forget that there are important ingredients that have
to be pulled together in order to make that final
product work. And part of that has to do with

(23:43):
our politics is to be go beyond saying well, this
is what I'm being offered and I'll take it. We
have to start paying attention at the earlier, earlier stage
of development. Yeah, and so you know, I appreciate you so.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
That a lot of that comes again, you talk about
ingredients and products. You know, the politics are not fully
responsible for how we develop. The people who have to
say things like society this, in society that, And again
I go back to what I just being a person

(24:22):
who would look at the small things recognizable. Society is
just a bunch of people making individual decisions and actions
that are then judged collectively. So we're society. So stop
telling me that we can't do something about what we
don't like because society wants to do something different. It's

(24:43):
about the same thing with the empire. It's very important
to look and recognize that the empire requires not an emperor.
The empire requires the people. If the empire, if the
emperor doesn't have an empire to rule, he's got nothing.
So we the people, get to determine the direction of

(25:06):
the empire to a certain degree. When the empire talks back,
when the empire fights back, then the emperor has to
look up and go uh oh. And we saw that.
We saw that. We saw that with the Epstein files,
we saw that with the government shut down. We see
it when the empire fights back against ice. So the
empire is not powerless. They want you to think the

(25:29):
empire is powerless because the Emperor is so loud and
he's got such a platform. But if you really look back,
and this is I think, why Thanksgiving for me this year?
You know, it's one of my favorite times. But Thanksgiving
this year was really good because last year it was
right after that election and the people, the people were

(25:51):
so just offended and they were disappointed and discouraged, and
we're like, how the hell. I know it Sunday and
I know I met my Daddy's sure, but I got
to say it because hell is hell? How the hell
did we get back here again? And in the midst

(26:12):
of that, because part of my job as a person
and as and as and as the impress of my
own little house here is to kind of help direct
how we're going to navigate this. And and I had
to sit with God and say, okay, wait a minute.
You know, while everybody else was saying black women have

(26:32):
had enough, we're tired, we're not doing this, We're going
to sleep, we ain't. Don't call us for nothing. And
I have been there, but I had to sit there
and say, no, you know what, God, this must mean
that what's getting ready to happen. Here is necessary, and
it's going to give you a chance to show up.

(26:54):
You know, I have this I have this thing called
One Life, Live Lit where you know, a few years
ago I just really decided that I wanted to show
up as the highest version of myself as often as
I can, wherever I can, whenever I.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Can accept the challenge. You wanted to accept the challenge to.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Be but you have to do. Yeah, it's not about
the perfection. It's about the understanding that we're all spiritual influencers,
meaning that the way we show up has an impact
on the rooms we're in, on the social media, we
get onto the words we say, and there are more
the Empire, the people of the Empire are more powerful

(27:37):
than the one Emperor period today. And I think what
I love is that I kept telling people all.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
You let me, let me take where you are and
get back over here. To mister Wilson, who, as a
subject of the Empire lost his daughter, oh and as
the subject of the Empire, responded as a emperor of

(28:06):
his own life, mister Wilson, would you share a little
bit of a foot occurred with your daughter, But more
about your response to that and I'm bringing that up
because at a certain point, the help that we want

(28:28):
is going to be determined by ourselves and our relationship
with God and our willing, willingness to make a commitment
as a result of the occurrences that take place. Not
wanting to give you but you know, how to deal

(28:48):
with this life?

Speaker 10 (28:49):
Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure,
for sure.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (28:52):
So in twenty eighteen, my daughter was murdered by her boyfriend,
and in her remembrance, I started a nonprofit organization, a
Latte Wilson Foundation dot org. And you know, we basically

(29:12):
folk we have our main focus is a Eminent Danger
Fund because a lot of these women that are going
through these situations, the boyfriend has uh took away their communication,
took away their money to where you know, the the
women are just stuck in in the situation that they're

(29:32):
in and it makes it easier when they can't communicate
and they k they don't have.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
The resources to leave.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
So uh, the main purpose of the Eminent Danger Fund
is to to get them temporarily housed out of the
situation that they're in. However, we could do it a
lot of times it's buying a bus ticket, calling an uber,
reserving hotel, getting in touch with the church. A lot

(30:00):
of times it all depends on where the woman calls
us from and where she's at and the resource the day,
because it's like when they call them a Saturday or Sunday,
you know, most things are closed. So this imminent danger
of fund is basically to instantly assist them into getting
to safety temporarily until Monday, where we could find other

(30:23):
resources for them.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
So this foundation, it's put together as a result of
the pain and put together in terms of with the
goal of setting up solutions to oh yes, to alleviate
the potential of this taking place on an ongoing, everyday basis,

(30:47):
and being as helpful as you can. And I think
as we look at our life politic, this is what
we have to do. We have to figure out how
do we fill in the gaps from what our world
morally says it's going to do and the actual what
does it really do? And it comes back to us

(31:13):
showing up, Yeah, showing up. And I'm understanding that the
ingredients that are going to make it better are things
that we have to pretty much come up with. Now
they shut off snap day, I say David. I, actually
it's Trump and the other people with resources who for
some reason are evil and hardcore enough to say, well,

(31:37):
I'm willing to spend billions of dollars, billions of dollars
to save our political position and to push our morality
on people around the world. But that same morality, I'm
not willing to spend millions of dollars to feed the

(31:57):
people who have elected them.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, it's more than that. We have to understand. You know,
a very wise man taught me many many years ago,
and I don't remember his name, but he used to say, like,
who like you? And when you see these people in
positions of power, who understand that the only way to

(32:24):
unconditionally hold on to that power is by not putting
it back in the hands of the people who allow
them to become powerful, it's similar. It's similar to an
abusive relationship. You know, when we first meet somebody, they
don't let us know what the plan is. When they
first start to say things like, oh, I don't want
you to work, I'm gonna take care of you, we

(32:45):
don't realize that what they're doing is putting us in
a position where we don't have it in our own hands.
We are not in control of our own resources. And
as someone who has maybe been working hard, maybe been
in positions of struggle, at first we think this is safety. Oh,
I don't have to worry about no bills. Oh I

(33:07):
don't even have to worry about my phone. In fact,
I don't have to worry about having a bill from
my phone because now my phone is on his account.
Oh I don't have to worry. I don't have to
do And so it initially disguises itself as safety, disguises
itself as a form of love that that you know,

(33:27):
we so.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
We think, like you crawl back up in the womb
and everything is.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
The thing is, we don't look at the motivation because
we are now just getting what we need and what
we wanted or what we thought was the dream, and
we don't realize what it came disguised as. And then
by the time we do, we've been so busy telling
other people that we don't need them and that you know,
we're fine just spending time with him, or we're fine

(33:56):
just you know, doing what we've been told here, we
don't realize that all of a sudden, you know, this
isn't this isn't safety, this this is this is, this
is imprisonment, this is this is and and it happens
in small ways before it happens in big ways.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
So are we are we men? I'm seeing a parallel
between our personal relationships and our political relationship.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, because guess what, we identify everything personally first, that's
the first thing we do. We don't look at the
big picture. We don't look at where is this man
really coming from? What is his agenda? When people in
the quote unquote Bible belt heard this man walk out
here and say, well, you know, I'm listen. We have

(34:44):
a man who has been married and divorced and committed
adultery on a serial basis, selling bibles and selling them out.
Do you understand that he did? All he did was
come in and and and feed.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
Now we're saying he's sell he's selling them out, but
let's understand he can't sell them unless people buy them.
That's right, and and and and so it we put
a lot of we put a lot of emphasis on
him selling them. But I think our solution, based on
what we're saying about the Embery talking back, is to
get people to not worry about him selling them, but

(35:24):
worry about the nature of themselves when they are buying them.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
This is what I mean, what is the motivation you
see when I see and it's funny because we don't
want to be suspicious of folks. We don't want to
be like you know, and and and women have often
been tell oh, just because of what you've been through,
you want to you want to be suspicious of me.
And I'm coming here.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Okay, let's let let's okay. I'm with you and and
and I'm with you to an extent that says you
have to you have to be sure that that love
is love and not simply controlling. And love is controlling,
even if it's unconditional. The same thing about the same
thing about government. See, because I don't want to get

(36:07):
I don't want to get over independent from government, because
there's a group of people that says, you know, government
ain't supposed to do everything but government. The thing that
government is supposed to do is protect you. And it
is supposed to be dependable enough to be fair about
how it how it allocates its resources, both in terms

(36:29):
of penalty and in terms of pleasure, and.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Really comes down to it, right, is a government is
a structure, and when we all as a people decide
what kind of structure we want to live under, and
we all set it in place with a constitution, with bylaws,
with whatever, and then we select someone whose responsibility is
to govern over the structure in accordance with how we

(36:59):
decided the structure should operate. Right now, what happens is
when someone comes in and they're supposed to govern and
they break the rule, and they instead of them coming
in and deciding they want to govern according to the structure,
which is what we hire them to do, elect them
to do, and we have an.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Understanding that this is you said something very important, you
said the rule. There is a large area of grave
where people's ability to make good decisions for the benefit
of someone other than themselves is expected. And we have
a large area of traditional activity that has ruled the

(37:44):
rulers in the past. But as we get to someone
who gets elected like mister Wilson intends to do, he
has goals that he shares with us on his way
to getting elected, and when he gets elected, he's going
to find as most do that. Just because fifty two

(38:05):
fifty three fifty four percent of the people voted for
you didn't take away the fact that forty six percent
of the people voted against you, and they are still there,
and some of them are not willing to acquiesce to
your policy decisions and movements, and you are going to
find resistance, Like in the case of a woman's relationship

(38:29):
with whomever. Whatever the man happen to be may be
a great provider of facility of material things, or he
may be a great provider of spiritual attitude. He may
be lacking in one area or another, but the team
support and that's that's where our outside oberation observations come in.

(38:54):
I was like, Wow, should she or hood you know
things look good from a distance, We don't know, except
for maybe an organization where we can get people to
report if they feel that things are out of sight
or out of line. But as we go into it,
right with the election process, and I agree with everything

(39:16):
you're saying, the point that I want to make is
that everything you say and everything I say still has
to be weighed out a little bit and and and
double check for the specifics. We've got someone here at
the table now who is kind of subject to some
questions and some things that we can ask him as
he moves forward. You know why why are you trying

(39:39):
to get elected? Well, you know you're you're you want
to be the mayor? What qualifies you to be the man?
I know you're sensitive, I know that you're helpful, I
know you've served in the past. Uh do you.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
What really matters is how well your goals align with
my goals. I'm going to vote for you based on
are not vote for you based on how well your
goals appear to align with my goals. So that's why
we ask these questions, and we want to know these things.

(40:15):
But we also have to understand that politics is not
the same as you're applying for a job.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
Well, it's not, and it's not over. It's not over
once the election is over. Oh no, it actually only starts.
And if I've been so involved, so important in the
process of electing you, how important am i as you
now establish policy and want policy to be effective and

(40:47):
affected by everyone? Are you going to come back to
the same people who elected you? Are you going to
be yielding to the people who paid you or the
people who voted for you? How do you view those
types of things? Simple question? Who's more important? The lobbyist

(41:09):
the financial supporter or the voter. And you know, before
we before we get to it, you know, it would
seem like everything that's being done, the money you raise,
the things that the lobbyists talk about, and all of
that is to agitate and create a direction for a voter.

(41:33):
But once we've got the voter and he's committed himself,
how important is that voter? Now you are that empire
subject and how much power? And you said it earlier.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
That you're a servant of the empire.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
Ye're a subject of the empire. You've got power the empire.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, as the emperor, you are the servant of the empire.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Yes, right, okay, okay, we say it and it sounds good.
But let's let's look at some of the some of
the servants of the people, people who are supposed to
be serving the empire. Now, okay, okay, can we pick
out can we pick one politician in the United States?

(42:21):
And I'll say that because that's you know, they're all
supposed to have been elected that we feel so good
about because they're paying attention to the people. Who's paying
attention to the people And what part of the people
are they paying attention to? And how do we know
that they're really paying attention to the people or are
they just paying attention to the news. How do we know?

(42:43):
Is there a way to find out? Is there a
way to get the people where the people want to
be for the people before they get in trouble, before
they get in need, before we find out that they're
going to cut off snap and food stamps and change
Social Security and set healthcare at such a price that

(43:03):
nobody can pay it.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, but understand this, before the election, they told you
what they were going to do.

Speaker 8 (43:10):
Doesn't matter. Now, you said you were gonna make the
elephant dance, and you're you did. But I didn't know
you were gonna make the elephant dance, and come and
make it. Take my seat, Okay, stand on my feet.
We have as you keep your promise.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Dance on my foot.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Yeah. I don't want him to dance it on my head.
I don't want him dancing on his feet, and I
want to see it from a distance. I don't want
him all up in my living room, knocking my tables
and stuff over.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's where we should have asked the question, because.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
It's too late to ask a question. Now, I want
to know, do I need to call the exterminator? Do
I need to gather up the guys and we get
on the corner and we become some kind of gorilla
group of what do I need to do? What am
I gonna do? I tell you what. And the reason
I'm asking this is because I know that part of

(44:01):
what our emperor wants to do is agitate our people
enough to respond in a warlike manner. And I can
tell you there's places in these United States where ice
will get melted. And I'm not saying that in any
kind of enthusiastic attitude that would like to see it

(44:23):
take place, but I know that there are people who
have tons of guns in their house to protect themselves.
They and they ain't all white men. No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Let's stay on this now for a second. We are
in a situation where it could take It simply takes one. Okay.

(44:43):
We got a guy who just just came from Afghanistan
under a truce that brought him to the United States
because he helped the United States during the Afghani War.
He's been here a couple of years, and all of
a sudden, I say all of a sudden, but he
got a gun and he went on shot to to

(45:04):
to National Guard people. Now he's enough as far as
Trump's concern to say.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
No more brown, black, yellow.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
People that are not white coming into the United States
caught their third world. Why would he say that because
they're not white? Well, if he would speak that directly
to everybody like he does when he sneaks up into
his little Republican strongholds and his lobbyists are, and where
his white supremacist brothers and sisters are, if he spoke

(45:39):
as candidly to the rest of the world, I wonder
if we would be shocked, because, like you said, well
he's kind of let us know.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well no, but not only that, sir. This is I
will say this, and I know it's going to cause
some people to get very upset. I just say this
because you know, again they say, when someone tells you
who they are, believe them. Once someone has identified themselves
as a liar and as someone who will do and

(46:08):
say anything to distract from what is actually taking place.
And now that person has the ability, he has the
political ability, he has the financial ability to take his
lie and turn it into the truth so that he
can say, see, I told.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
You and he said that. He said before that if
you just tell a lie and keep repeating it, people
will believe that.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I'm gonna say this, he was sitting next to a
brown person from Saudi Arabia a week ago. Do we
know that what we are seeing on the news and
what we are being told took place is how it
really went down? And do we know because remember, this
is the same dude who a year ago claimed he

(46:58):
got shot on the ear and oh and now looking
and this ear is very whole. So either he has
the ability to do this immeasurable.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Extreme, Evander holy Phild still has Evander holy phil still
has a piece missing. Let me say, Evander holy Field
still has a piece missing from his ear.

Speaker 12 (47:22):
And he got big, he got shut, So you're right,
it's interesting that he had this plastic surgery replaced his ear.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Listen, I am in no way, I am in no way.
I am in no way disregarding the fact that from
what we've seen, family two families are suffering over the
loss of a loved one. I'm not negating that, but
what I'm saying is, and remember this is the same
they're using the same playbook from the sixties. They're using

(47:55):
the same playbook from the nineteenth they're using the same
World War to playbook, they're using the same Vietnam playbook.
So we know that there were counterintelligence things that happened.
Then we know that there were lies told about how
people quote unquote were assassinated. Then so we would be

(48:16):
remissed as intelligent people in a world where AI and
technology are so much more powerful than they were in
the nineteen forties in the nineteen seventies to just automatically
accept what we are being given on a screen by

(48:37):
a group of people who have already made it clear
that they are dishonest, have no integrity, and are going
to do whatever it takes, especially now that the Empire
has made it clear that we see you and we
not going for it.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Okay, all right, okay, you've said you've set it up.
You've set you've set it up. Oh hold on, stop,
you got to stop, because now, mister Wilson, the question
has been asked. You are running for election.

Speaker 10 (49:07):
I'm running for mayor of San Bernardin running for.

Speaker 8 (49:09):
Mayor of San Bernardino, And the question has been asked
by the subjects of the Empire in this world where
we cannot be sure where information comes from, what it's
based on, and how factual it is. How are you
going to convince to get elected and policy wise get

(49:36):
people to go along with what you want? So why
are you going to get elected? What would you do?
What do we let's let's query, mister Wilson.

Speaker 12 (49:45):
I want to start off saying that I'm not a politician.
I'm a person that's into politics. So by me being
a person, I am the subject of the empire, and
I've been a subject of the empire for so long
that I know what the empire needs. I know what

(50:07):
the empire wants I want. I know the deficiencies of
the empire. I know what's going on from that perspective,
So what.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
Are some of those deficiencies?

Speaker 12 (50:16):
What do you well, Basically, basically, I'm I'm running on
a lot of things that y'all touched on, but people
in politics shouldn't say. But I'm a say because like
I said, I'm not a politician, I'm a person in
the politics. So my first three things are love, that's

(50:39):
the number one, No, Love, leadership, and legacy, because.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
That's five, all three of those.

Speaker 12 (50:50):
From your perspective, Love is sacrifice, and there's there's no
pretty much other way to put love. So a person
has to be willing to make sacrifices, you know, And
it's an action word, so you know, it's not saying
that I love you, it's showing that I love you

(51:12):
through the sacrifices that I'm willing to make to prove
to you that I love you. Leadership, there's a lot
of people that's talented, there's a lot of people that's rich,
there's a lot of people that could get somebody attention,
but that doesn't necessarily make him or her a leader.

(51:32):
A leader has to be, for one, open to who
he's leading and how he or she needs to lead
in order to satisfy the team as a whole, and
not just his vision, but the vision as a whole.
And you don't know that by not communicating with the
subjects of the empire.

Speaker 10 (51:54):
So that's my first thing, is.

Speaker 12 (51:56):
To not only have an idea of what I feel
the empire needs, but to find out directly what the
subjects of the empire require so that it makes it
easier for me to obtain their goals.

Speaker 10 (52:14):
And legacy.

Speaker 12 (52:14):
That would lead the legacy because it would be already
proven that before I arrived, it was like this. After
I arrived, it became something better. And now that a
person could follow that roadmap, like you said, the other
people are following the roadmap from the nineteen thirties nineteen sixties,
that would lead a roadmap for that would be the

(52:37):
roadmap for people to continue the success of the empire.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
And it's time for a new playbook, not just in
the Empire locally, but it's time for a new playbook
in this country when which is why things are happening
the way they're happening. But the Inland Empire is a
microcosm just like every community in the United States, every

(53:03):
family is a microcosm of a government or so what
you're stepping in to do? And the question then becomes
for me, I don't live in the Empire. I don't
live in the Inland Empire. But because so many people
that I love dearly and that are very precious to
me live in the Empire, care deeply, not just about

(53:26):
what the plan is for the empire immediately, you know,
in service to my father, my grandmother, my mother, but
how the Empire plans to serve my nieces. Who are you? Yeah,

(53:46):
so I from here, care deeply and want to know
then what your plan is and what your vision is
for the empire and how that then you know what
effect because yeah.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
What do you see what do you see as the
biggest or one of the biggest issues in the.

Speaker 10 (54:10):
Lack lack of communication?

Speaker 8 (54:12):
Lack of communication and how do we.

Speaker 12 (54:15):
Lack of communication between and you know, attitude reflects leadership,
So when there's lack of communication from the top, it's
going to twinkle down to lack of communication everywhere.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
We only got five minutes.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
Yeah, no, but go ahead, Okay, so let's let's kind
of pick one issue or one thing that you know.
So if it's going to be communication, is there something
that you would be able to describe as a solution
for one of the issues that you're concerned about.

Speaker 12 (54:48):
Yes, the leadership, the leadership at the top is there's
not you know, in my opinion, there's not a solid
or a person now we're talking about unity leader to
lead at the top. So therefore, by there not being
any effective leadership at the top, it doesn't trickle down

(55:09):
to the to the people.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
But is it is it that the person and are
you talking about the current mayor?

Speaker 12 (55:16):
It could be the current mayor, city council. It's a
it's a it's a combination of of of all three.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
Well, this is a city manity council, and it's a
city manager that keeps switches. Well, it's a city manager
runs city. It's a city where the mayor and the
common council have a city manager to affect the policy
of the mayor and this and the common council. However,

(55:43):
I don't know. I think we're without a city manager exactly.
And we've we've changed, we've changed city managers in the
last couple of years. So so so how that occurs,
So the search for the city manager, how they go

(56:04):
about doing that is one thing. But that's that. That's policy.
You can't, you know, necessarily change that yourself.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
As a mayor, you are the you are the you.

Speaker 10 (56:22):
You are the executive, the executive or of the mouthpiece
the you know.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And so then from that leadership you have the ability
to communicate with the council exactly, communicate the needs of
the people exactly, the council communicate to the people. Coul
is responding to that need.

Speaker 8 (56:44):
Do you see that You see that more as a
position of telling people what to do or being more
of a liaison between this the council, the city population,
and the city manager.

Speaker 12 (56:59):
Leader has to do all of them, and and and
how how you approach is it all depends on each
situation is gonna be different. You know, as a coach,
you know you have some players that responds to hey,
get out there, but all players don't respond to that.
But if you have a player that only responds to that,

(57:20):
you have to know when to inject that, when to
not inject that. Yep, you have other players that you
could just sit down and have a talk with them
and say, hey, this is what I need to need
you to do, This's what I expect from you. You know,
you can communicate with them that way. So that's why
my answer was lack of communication because by knowing, by
not knowing how to, by not knowing how to communicate

(57:42):
or what to communicate, you know, leave everybody in disarray.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
Okay, very interesting.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
Exactly.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And communication is not just the sending of message, It
is the receiving of the message and interpreting the message.
I learned that when I took a communication, well, I
was always a very big talker. As you can see,
I get it from I also had to learn the
rules of communication that I wanted to be really good

(58:12):
at it.

Speaker 8 (58:13):
So as we look at the city of San Bernardino,
one of the things that I think most people can
agree on is that the development of downtown sand Bernardino
is lacking. We have a mall that has been closed
for years. We have a hotel and convention centers.

Speaker 10 (58:33):
Icere several eyesores.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
Well, yeah, they're sore eyes because they're not making money.
I mean, we can talk about what they look like.
But I tell you what, if they were generating money
and jobs right now, we wouldn't worry so much about
what they look like as we described them as eyesore.
So maybe next time you come in, we can see
what your physician is on how to effectively bring some

(58:58):
economic development to the city of San Bernardino. Exactly. I
think that's all.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I see even from here. There's economic development happening in
the Inland Empire and other other communities.

Speaker 10 (59:10):
Around sam oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
And I actually now have a lot of questions, And
I'm sorry that we blow on time because I feel
this now begs of mine.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
Yeah, it's the quickst hour on radiolim. I'm going to
claim the last forty five seconds of this because it
is about it. It's at that point I would.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Like to request an appointment with mister Wilson.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
Not a problem, not a problem, You could do that.

Speaker 8 (59:36):
I'm having the communication problem here. I've been trying to
control the sound here, but I can't do it. But
that's the way Mayor is going to be. You're going
to have people who keep wanting to inject what is
seriously important to them to the issue and has to
be dealt with. UH Michigan, thank you for joining us.
I look forward to next week. Mister Wilson. We're going
to have to have to bring you back.

Speaker 10 (59:57):
The problem. That a problem if.

Speaker 8 (59:59):
You've stepped into it. We want to be sure that
you can walk and glide and actually walk on board.

Speaker 10 (01:00:05):
And I'm gonna make sure you can smell over
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