December 28, 2025 • 60 mins
KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 28 Dec, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Told reporters on Saturday, let's talk at today con US
Envoy Steven no One from no wines separate meetings with
American and European officials. At least nine people are dead
and nearly a dozen others wounded after a deadly mass
(00:23):
shooting in South Africa.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
A group of masked.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Gunmen carried out the attack in a township southwest early
Sunday morning. South African police service authorities have launched a
man hunt for about a dozen suspects. Deputy Attorney General
Todd Blanche is defending redactions in the first batch of
files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press,
(00:47):
Blanch says the focus remains on protecting victims.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're going through a very methodical process with hundreds of
lawyers looking at every single document and making sure that
victim's name and any of the information from victims is
protected and redacted.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
The initial release of the files related to the convicted
sex offender has drawn criticism from lawmakers on both sides
of the Aisle. Republican Congressman Thomas Massey posted on x
that Friday's partial document release by Attorney General Pam Bondi
and Blanche grossly fails to comply with both the spirit
and the letter of the law, and leading lawmakers are
asking why some of the Epstein files about Donald Trump
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now appear to be missing. Ryan Nobles with more more.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Than a dozen photos that were available on the DOJ
site Friday have disappeared without explanation, including a photo of
President Donald Trump, one of the few examples of Trump
appearing in the document's release.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Michael Kassner, NBC News Radio.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Celebrate the holiday season with Inland Pacific Ballets. The Nutcracker,
said to Tchaikowsky's Class six score, follow Clara from the
Land of Snow through the Kingdom of Sweets with more
than eighty dancers and special guest artists, exquisite sets, costumes,
and cherished scenes. A must see holiday tradition.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
For all ages.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Experience so CAW's signature holiday production with four performances at
Bridges Auditorium in Claremont on December thirteenth and fourteenth, and
three at Fox Performing Arts Center in Riverside on December
twentieth and twenty First Tickets are available at ip Ballet
dot org. That's ip Ballet dot AA.
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Speaker 2 (04:29):
This is KCAA.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
It's time for me right now. This is Brad Jog's
back on Wallace Salem.
Speaker 9 (06:05):
I'm here on the case for truth and justice with
the right information to help improve the situation.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
Miss and macmill be joining me very shortly.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
But I want to remind you folks that you know,
in this day and age, where we have so much
communication coming at us thousands of miles an hour from
fifty different directions, we have to figure out how to
stay in charge of my mind, stay in charge of
my activities. Understand that there are things that we're supposed
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to get involved in that are outside. But that doesn't
work if you don't keep the inside clear and tight.
This is the holiday season, this is Christmas, Jesus's birthday.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
It's not time for shopping and presents and all. Let
me do that. And we want to have parties, we
want to get along with the dream, but we have
to stick with the reality. And part of that is
to be.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Loving and caring to those things, the people that are
ready to focus. So we can't keep looking over the
shoulders of our loveds at the enemy of the distance,
the distractions of the distance. This is the time for
us to gather, to be happy and appreciative, not satisfied,
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but appreciative. There's a difference. The ocean is never satisfied
by a perfect wave, but it makes perfect waves all
the time. But the satisfaction isn't there. It's appreciation.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
It's the desire.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Appreciation gives you the desire to keep on going, to
know where you are, to realize that where I am
isn't necessarily where I want to be, but sometimes I
gotta stay where I am in order to get where
I want to be. In staying where you are, if
you are in a say, swimming pool doesn't mean that you.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Just stop moving.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
You gotta tread water, and treading water in the swimming
pool is probably the hardest swim motion that you can make,
trying to stay still in a moving atmosphere. But if
my friend River was here, he tells you that the
Bible and the Lord says that sometimes it's critical to.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Be able to be still, be still and appreciate Today,
we're gonna have Mac and Missions join us and then
bring him up.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
As soon as you've got him in, bring him up.
I'll see him on the screen there. Okay, we'll call
him up. Do what you gotta do, bring him in.
But at the same time that we're looking forward to
hearing from Michewa and hearing from Mac, I wond to
remind you how much I appreciate them.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Mac is a.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Full time comedian, he's a philosopher, he's an artist, got
things to do, he's a podcaster, but he makes a
little time to come hang out with us and share
what goes on in his mind. Misha Man talk about busy.
She is definitely an entrepreneur.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Earned her a gold record with.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Betty right when she was I don't want to mispronounciage.
But she was a young girl nineteen twenty years old,
twenty one, I don't know earned her a gold record
singing Betty Rights Woops you walk. But Betty Right who
a legend. She's produced music. She's now a music administrator,
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an entrepreneur. These people have thing that they are doing
that are unusually powerful and good things that they can
spend their time doing as opposed to, you know, just
hanging around and hanging out, and so I appreciate them.
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I appreciate you for listening. I appreciate that you may
not listen at the time of the broadcast, but you
may pick up the podcast. I appreciate that because I
know that you could be totally distracted and not have time,
not have time, or not take time, and not have
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the mental strengths to say, I want to listen to Wallace.
I don't care how good Anthony is on the bass guitar.
I don't have time to listen to it. But you
do listen, and I appreciate that. So we want to
say some things and do some things for you that
are kind, generate some kindness from us to you.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
And make you a little bit smarter.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
If that's possible, but definitely to make you a bit
more prepared for what's really going on in life here.
It's a big thing. It's not simple. This is the
time of year when you guys are going to feel
a little I don't care who you are, you feel
a little inadequate because there's so much that you want
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to do. There's people that you want to salute, those
gifts that you want to buy, just people that you
want to hug that are not even not even on
the planet anymore.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 9 (11:36):
How do you stay strong in the midst storm of
emotions that Christmas, New Year's, these holidays take you through.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I just know that it's something that if you look
a little past what you think is a problem, you
will see something there that can make you happy. If
it's nothing but standing around at the watching children, If
you watch children and see the happiness that just the
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sound of a bell, just the impression that this imaginary
fat man is gonna come down their chimney.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
The things that make them smile are artificial in.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Most cases, but the smile is real, and the feeling
that you can get from sharing that smile, making that
smile is very real something to look forward to.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
So I want to thank us for.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Taking the moments to be appreciative. And I'm not asking you,
are suggesting to you that you should be satisfying. Just remember,
standing still in a move in a moving atmosphere requires
a lot of strength. So respect those people that are
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not moving as fast as you would like to see
them move, or moving in the direction that you would
like to see them move. Their relationship is with God
and you, So we have to respect that part that
God controls or represents. That's really the end story for
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most of us. How do we get along with the
rules of God? How do we get along with the
parameters morality that we've set during the course of our life.
And our parameters individually don't necessarily represent the parameters of
other people, you know, So you can't count other people's money,
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you can't count other people's blessings, and you can't count
what Saint Peter's going to say to him when it's
their time. I know a man who lived a lie.
Now he's afraid to die. You see, he cheated his
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friends for the sake of a dime. He felt no
pain at all. Man, But the devil had come to
claim his soul. My man felt oh so small. But
there's no place to run. There was no place to hide,
you see, the devil was on his trail. There was
no place to turn for a kind word, no friend
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to give him a kind word that could pay his bill. Oh,
it's a dunk gounn shame, and it's too damn bad.
I feel like I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
A friend of mine traded is soul for girl. Now
he's afraid to die.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
You may be confronted in life one.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Day with a choice that's hard to make. But if
it's a question of your soul for goal, I hope
you'll know which one to take. Don't trade your soul
for goal, my friend. The price will never be right
enough for you to The price will never be right
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enough for you to cast away your soul.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
The price will never be right enough for you.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
To cast your soul to endless night. No, my friend,
don't trade your soul for goal. The price way too much.
So I say all of that to say love is
the answer. Love is the key that's direction for you,
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certainly the key for me. So remember, whenever you make one,
you make two, one for him.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
And one for you.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Whatever you make, aim more than you want to take.
Because sure enough threw the arc down the line, you're
bound to get what you thought was mine. Send me
love and I'll do the same. That'll make your life
better and leave us with no one left to blame.
We're going to take a short break here on Empire
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Talks back on Waviace. Allen will be right back after
this short break and we'll get a chance to.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Help you work your way through life.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Before we go, I want to give you this little
tidbit that was passing along to me. One of the
ways to reward the little porch thieves that we see
taking advantage of our the boxes on our porch. I
got a note the other day and said, if you
have junk that you're trying to get rid of, package
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it in an Amazon box and leave it.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
On your front porch.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Huhraha A not not a bad idea. If the jumped
in your house your yard will fit in an Amazon box,
foot it in an Amazon box and leave that box
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on your front porch as a gift to the porch poets.
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Speaker 5 (18:31):
Celebrate the holiday season with Inland Pacific Ballets. The Nutcracker,
set to Tchaikowsky's classic score, follow Clara from the Land
of Snow through the Kingdom of Sweets with more than
eighty dancers and special guest artists, exquisite sets, costumes, and
cherished scenes. A must see holiday tradition.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
For all ages.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Experience so CAW's signature holiday production with four performances at
Bridges Auditorium in Claremont on December thirteenth and fourteenth, and
three at Fox Performing Arts Center in Riverside on December
twentieth and twenty first Tickets are available at ip Ballet
dot org. That's ip Ballett.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The segment sponsored in part by the Fat Greek Restaurant
in Ukaipa where it's Opapa.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
All right, we're back. This is in Para talks Back.
I'm Wallace Allen on the case for truth and justice.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
With the right.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Information to help improve the situation. I just gave you
guys a nugget, you know, for our porch pirates. I
hope that didn't sound evil. I don't know anyway. Mischewa,
Are you there? Ma'am Ah looks like she hung up
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on the phone. That's all right, see if you can
get her back. I don't blame her. Yeah, here you are?
Is there?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
She is? How you doing to her?
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I've forgotten my little introduction earlier. One of the other
great things that Mishah does is she is the rum
cake lady rum Cake, you.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Know, Jamaican rum.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Cream Jamaican rum cream cake.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
And if she sends you one of those, don't leave
it on the on the front porch too long, because
the porch fibers really enjoy Jamaican rum cream cake, didn't they?
And we ever get her cake squared away?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Okay, because uh I had sent somebody over there to
try to get it before she got to it, But
I guess she got it. Those things make you do
things you didn't that you're not really proud of, but
you're still willing to brag about it because the drum
cake does that to you.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I don't know, full of love, full.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Of it's full of love and all the things that
make a special very good.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
So so what do you think about the idea of.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Taking your house junk and putting it in the Amazon
box and leaving it on your front porch for the
porch pirates?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Is that a good U? Is that a good thing
to do? Or do you think I'm wasting uh wasting
an effort?
Speaker 9 (21:53):
There?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Mac? How you doing all right?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
How does everybody knowing this morning?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (21:58):
God, it's great. We're grateful, very good. Yeah, man, I
took a break in. Just before the break I gave
people a master hint for Christmas called if you got junk,
where to get rid of your junk? Is they're packing
in an Amazon box and put it on the front porch.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
With hope set.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Yeah, that just sounds like there's some other issues at hand,
and I don't. I don't really, I don't really have here,
But listen, I can think of a bunch of decoy
things that you could put out there.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
To deter porch pirate.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Oh really, And I.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Can think of a lot of things that you can
put in that box other than junk that would definitely detort.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
I don't know where your mind went on that, but
mine went really to the flush zone.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Flush, yeah, said flush.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
You know I I think this time of year, you know,
given that kind.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Of energy to a potential porch pirate, I would rather
just say, well, he must have needed it more not yet.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Well, okay, since you said that, are you apt to
leave a slice or a half of your Jamaican cream
run take.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Out on the porch for the porch pirate? Are you
that kind?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
No, I don't. I don't feed porch pirates. I don't
pet peeves. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
I don't do any of those kind of things. You know,
if I don't want your company or your presents are
your energy, I give you as little attention as possible
so that you don't feel the pole.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Okay, okay, have you had a Have you had a
visit from a porch pirate, either one of you.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
I have several times, Wow, in my neighborhood. It's almost
like they followed the bed a truck around well and energy,
and sometimes I think they workers are working with them.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
I did have an experience.
Speaker 11 (24:04):
I had an experience, but I'm pretty sure that it
was actually the delivery company and not the porch pirate.
Is about three years ago, Beyonce did this cowboy Adidas
drop that had this bad purple and white like coutprint jacket,
and I was one of the few people that hit
the order in time, and they used a different delivery service,
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I'm kind of a private service, not FedEx, And two
days later it showed that it was delivered and it
hadn't been anywhere near my house, and so I had
to call and report it immediately, but all they could
really do was refund my money. And I was kind
of ticked off because I was like, oh, you and
I both know that the resale value of this jacket
is now more than I ever paid for it, So
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I don't I'm not happy with any of you right now,
but I think that was a plot. I don't think
that was a porch pirate. I don't think it made
it to the porch. I think who was ever, whoever
was getting paid twelve dollars an hour.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I want to look at that and said, listen.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Well, at twelve dollars an hour, I can't say I
blame them. Did you call Beyonce and double check on
that or.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Is there a direction?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:14):
But but I'm sure I wasn't the only one, because again,
it's resale value, and I'm just pretty sure that the
company they used, because it wasn't a company that necessarily
needed to be worried about a reputation.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
The employees probably it.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Was almost like an uber type service that they were
using that Adidas chose to use.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Man, I tell you, with that conspiracy theory, you're qualified
direct for president?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Oh no, I don't want that.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Well, I mean, I'm just saying you're qualified. I know
your wisdom probably goes beyond the design.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
But that's the thing is, I tend to think that
the majority of the people who are qualified are too smart.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I used to.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
I've always felt like that's the kind of job that
somebody like God would have to call me, text me,
send a confirmation a burning bush split a c like,
I'd have to really know for sure that's what we're
doing today.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
I think I think if most of the burning bush,
we probably called the dog on Friday burning no.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Opposed to.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
Yeah, that has to be a calling because there are
too many other things, especially as a black woman, that
would have to be a mighty, mighty call.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
I don't even know.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
I don't even know how Michelle did it as first
Lady because I'd have been locked up.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
I'm just going to say that in politics, the burning
bush actually.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Lives on top of Donald Trump's head.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
That bushes didn't do nothing in you to inspected that way,
and a.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Bush done nothing to you for you to treat a
bush like that matter.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I'm saying like, if we ever in politics, I'm not
speaking spiritually or religiously, but in politics, if we ever
needed a burning bush, literally, we have burning bush on
top of the President's head and he's just tearing this
place down and setting it on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
So yeah, we not I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 12 (27:13):
Religiously, we don't have that, but politically we definitely have
a burning bush.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
Listen, one of the things I saw this week not
even so much of burning bush For the Kennedy who
said she's gonna take a pick axe to the Kennedy Center,
I never thought. I honestly, you know, the Kennedys tend
to be known at least for their public decorum. For
Kennedy to finally say, listen, I'm gonna take a pick
axe myself and take your name off of this building,
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they have been sufficiently triggered.
Speaker 12 (27:45):
Yes, because he did name the Kennedy Senator the Donald
Trump Kennedy Senator and Art center like the Arts is
now like third place that Donald trum handy in the arts.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, this guy is.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I think he met Fart Center.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
I think I think he thought there was an f
and I think he met part Center and at that
point said I am exceptionally qualified, you know to have
a farts center.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
N So I think, you know.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
I just honestly, I don't know if I'm just too
prayed up, but I just refuse. I've been seeing too
many crazy people in my lifetime to be distracted from
the idea. And listen, I already know what I'm gonna
do with you the first opportunity I get.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So I'm not even really this right here.
Speaker 11 (28:40):
This is a busy work for you already made a
decision about how I'm going to.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Have Well, okay, let's let's let's see if today we
can give folks UH.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
A brighter light to look at for the holiday.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Because I can imagine that with the all of the
issues of the economy, all the issues of the emotions
that go on with the holiday, the doubts, the concerns
that unscheduled scheduling that has to take place, that people
got to be looking for some kind of relief. I
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was hoping my ports pirate comment might give for a
little relief and solution at the same time. How can
we give some good advice for the year, for the
for the holiday, UH, that will allow people to kind
of remember that this is despite the issues, we have
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much to free to appreciate. We have much that we
should focus on or could focus on that represents the
progress individually. If if emotionally we're still here, that means
we have described some emotional strength at some point, UH,
we've got some reasons to wake up and look forward
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to a month from now.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
That means we're making some kind of plans that we have.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Some positive, really positive things in our life that we
should continue to focus on while this bridge that we
appear to need is burning, because we will find another way,
as if this bridge of civilization to civilization, if we
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black folks have traditionally been able to create another way
to get to the building that they want to get
to because of the detours that racism, the detours that
false capitalism, the detours that false socialism, the detours that
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life can just force you to take. We have been
taking these detours without really even thinking about it. And
I think that there's something to that. As God is
pretty accurate with whom he wants to.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Make examples of, and I think He's made an.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
Example of Black folk to show the persistence, the resilience,
and the star power from the bottom of the barrel
that we are able to affect. And to concentrate on
that a little bit during this season is what I'd
like to see if we can we can do there's
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something great going on, if it's nothing but the resistance
to the something that is so terrible going on, You guys,
both of you, once again are doers and accomplishers, and.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
You make it happen despite not because but despiked. What's
going on around.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Uh, Dave Chappelle dropped the dropped a nugget on the
stale tonight.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Did you guys happen to see that?
Speaker 11 (32:18):
I haven't watched it yet. I'm saving I'm saving my
time for when I can just curl up on the
sofa save it.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I haven't. I haven't watched it. But I am a
comedian and I have a lot of comedians on my
Facebook and on my Instagram, and so I've heard a
lot of what he heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
He spoke some hard truths last night.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
No, he spoke some hard words that some people will
glory in. Is this is the truth that some other
people are going to say? Wow, that's wow, Dave. Dave
Chappelle is a master. I'm I'm, I'm I'm. I've always
been impressed with his ability to make me laugh at
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something that I didn't really think I would hear coming
out of somebody else's mouth. That matched what was in
my mind going on silent stuff that Yes, well I
don't I don't need to say that. Maybe I shouldn't
say that, And there it is. Dave Chappelle said it
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out loud.
Speaker 12 (33:27):
Yes, he's a master at his craft. I admire him
a lot. He does say a lot of things, and
you know, as a comedian sometimes it's hard to breach
political content, but Dave Chappelle does it excellently.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
If there was one thing that I would like to
say that he that he brings up that a lot
of people bring up, then they mix it up, and
that's that if you don't agree with Israeli politics, you're
somehow anti Semitic. That doesn't make sense to me, because
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Judaism is religion and Israeli government is not.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I would like to say some Can I interject some
right here?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Please?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Anti Semitic?
Speaker 12 (34:14):
Semitic means of people based around the Mediterranean Sea. Do
you know that Palestinians are Semitic people as well?
Speaker 8 (34:23):
And you couldn't tell them apart if you looked at them.
Speaker 12 (34:26):
So when somebody is telling you you're anti Semitic, no, listen.
The only person who is demonstrating anti Semitic behavior are
European and Jewish immigrants to Israel.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
You mean the ones that Europe didn't want and so
they created a space for them so they could safely
kick them out of Europe and kick them out of America.
Speaker 12 (34:48):
So they felt it they have a name for themselves.
They call themselves Zionists, but these are basically European immigrants.
And so really, the way I look at the whole
country of Israel, it's a colonization project, just like America
was for England. But this is it has a long history.
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I mean, you gotta you, guys. It's not even just
and this started in like we want to say, nineteen hundred,
nineteen sixty four, World War two, but no.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
This has been going on since the Crusades.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
The Europeans have been trying to claw their way into
Jerusalem and Israel for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And Isaac and Ishmael have been fighting since they were born.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Well, once again, the people who practiced Judaism, Islam, the
religions of the Mediterranean area. That's that's not a government,
that's a religion. And I'm not against anybody's religion. Now,
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I can be against government, and I don't have to
go across any ocean to be against some of the
things that government does. I don't even have to leave California.
I don't have to leave San Bernardino. But that doesn't
make me an anti San Bernardinite because I don't like
some of the things that the government does.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Doesn't make me anti American.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Because I don't like some things that American government does.
I think this idea of constantly allowing ourselves to let
other people pick fights for us is an issue that
we can something we can do something about. I'm not
mad at Venezuela. I am very upset that my reputation
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as an American is being tainted by the murders that
my government is doing to the people that are in
the boats that they're by me in the area of
Venezuela in the name of a drug board. Anti of
course they were, but they did that to my neighbors.
They did that to people who okay with the drug war.
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It's another thing of white supremacy, the drug war.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 12 (37:23):
And the reason why I brought up colonization when I
was speaking about Israel, because it's a mindset. Now, listen,
what Donald Trump has said he's trying to do in
Venezuela is I'm going down there and I'm gonna take
the oil. They're oil because they made some business contracts
with us in the past that were shady and they
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didn't honor up to our shady dealings, and so now
I feel like I have the authority to go in
there and still these people's natural resources. Now, listen, that's
the same thing that's happening in Israel, whether anybody wants
to open their eyes to it or not. We are
dealing with people who are colonizing the world, stealing people's
resources and then using them. All they are doing is
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putting a pretty face on it. And the face ain't
so pretty. When it comes to Donald Trump, he's not good.
He's not up to the job. He can't paint a
pretty picture. Oh, it's all coming out. So I understand
what you're saying. I even heard the first question he
was going to ask on this podcast was was Jesus immigrant?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Jesus was an immigrant?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Absolutely, well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
If Jesus was an immigrant, how did he go down
to Egypt and hide from Herod?
Speaker 9 (38:39):
The concept of going down leaving one aspect. See, I
live in San Bernardido. If I go over to and
I do go into Rialito or go into Hyland, I'm
an immigrant.
Speaker 12 (38:55):
No, Okay, listen to me. Let me put it to you,
and let me put it to you in a different way.
Because I think that we look at it from today's
point of view, and we need to look at it
from a historical point of view and a historical point
of view. The country we call Israel today used to
be a province of ancient Egypt. The Egyptians were black.
The reason why Jesus could go and hide and Egypt
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is because he was indistinguishable from other black people. That
means he wasn't an immigrant. He was in his own
home country, but it.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Was occupied by foreigners.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, but they make it seem like Jesus was the immigrant.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Okay, Jesus wasn't the immigrant.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
I know he was.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
He was the asylum seeker, I know, but I like, yeah,
they were asylum seekers because Herod, who was Herod, who
was working for the Romans and wanting to maintain Rome's
power and hold in this occupied territory, had heard that
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this savior was going to be born, and in his mind,
just like it was in Saul's mind, and just like
it was in Pharaoh's mind, I heard that there's gonna
be this kid, and at some point this kid is
going to be able to come and take my power.
I'm not sure who the kid is, So I'm gonna
kill all.
Speaker 12 (40:19):
The kids and I totally understand that. But what I'm
saying is there is a different point of view, African
historical point of view. These people that we are calling
Israelites today and what the Bible how you just referred
to story is actually coming from a Jewish perspective. From
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the African perspective, these people were always us Jesus. Christianity
actually was in Africa before it was in Europe.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
Well, the other thing is this, and I keep pointing
out to people, ever so graciously, Jesus wasn't Christian and
and in fact, Christianity quote unquote, and the Catholic Church
was a whole nother day for a whole nother day,
for a home.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're talking about the council.
Speaker 11 (41:14):
That understanding understanding it was a political decision, it was
never a spiritual decision. Because the thing about churches, and
I say this as someone who attends two services every.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Sunday by the way online, and.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
As someone who was raised with an understanding that God
doesn't just occupy churches, that God that we are the temple,
our body is the temple of God. What I say
is that when you can control the people's perception of God,
you then control the people. And when they recognized that
more than one hundred years after his so called death
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and resurrection, there were still these people who fervently believed
in this resurrection, these Romans and Greek said, oh, oh,
we've already got the crazy Jews, and we've already got
the crazy Muslims. And if we let this get out
of hand, us and our little pagan pagan butts are
just really not gonna have no power. So we need
to get together and decide how we can create a
religion and let's take some of this.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
That's what hold on. If y'all think that Paul wasn't taken, listen.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But hold on, hold On.
Speaker 9 (42:19):
Hold On just killed him.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
They wanted his information, and his hold on kept him along.
Speaker 9 (42:26):
Hold On, you're both very right, uh. And mac your
your your history is very revealing. And it made me
realize that I had bit the apple, and I chewed
the apple and and and did what Trump wants us
to do. And that's here's the lies. So many times
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that we start repeating it, Uh, the concept of the
white Egyptians is a lie. Uh, But it's been said
and moved around so long that we believe it, despite
the fact that the Bible tells us that he was
brown and bully haired.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
Jesus.
Speaker 9 (43:09):
I saw for two minutes, Uh, Kevin Costner's peace last
night on the True Story of Christmas, and it took
me two minutes to realize that everybody that he had
on screen describing Jesus in the Birth of Jesus and
that whole circumstance was white. I said, no, man, so
(43:33):
I had I had to turn channel. I have nothing
against white people. I have something against this constant push
for white supremacy based on telling overt obvious lies.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
We seek at the motivation.
Speaker 9 (43:54):
No, no, no, no, this is this is this is why,
this is why, missy. Please, I understand that if an
elephant is standing on my foot, I don't give a
fat rat's elbow about his motivation.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
I want him off my foot.
Speaker 9 (44:11):
So I'm not trying to understand white supremacy, but I
will recognize it as quick as possible and turn the channel.
That's that's my point. I cannot stop. I cannot stop people.
You I you, I understand. That's why I'm here today.
(44:32):
That's why I'm here today to denounce it. And this
is this I'm here today to denounce it. And announce
to others that there's some truth that we will all miss.
And I miss some truth and Mac woke me up
a few minutes ago. And all of that to say
(44:54):
that all nine hundred years of my life that I've
been a black man trying to be on understanding, I
still slip.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
And we all slip.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
And today, as I said earlier, we tend to be
so defensive about what's going on around us that we
are not offensive enough to continue to practice to protect
the truth of our source, to protect the truth of
our potential. And when we speak to the potential of
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black folk, we're really speaking to the potential of saving
the world.
Speaker 11 (45:38):
And that's why that's why you know, not to interrupt
you important.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
It does become very important not just.
Speaker 11 (45:47):
Where we put our attention, but where we train our
children to put their attention. And that's why for me
it has a lot. It's not so much that I
don't want the elephant off my foot, but if my
physical strength is not enough to get the elephant off
my foot, I have to stop and think for a minute,
because maybe I need to set the elephant's foot on
fire so it'll move it.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
And so that's what.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
I'm saying, is it can't everything can't be about defense.
Is we have to acknowledge where we are, acknowledge what
has motivated what has motivated white supremacy, because white supremacy
wasn't motivated by hate, It wasn't motivated.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
It's every You have to.
Speaker 11 (46:27):
Understand the politics behind certain decisions and the lives that
are told to people to people. And it's not intended
for you to buy it. It's not intended for me
to buy it. It's intended for young white It's intended
for white people who already feel like they are missing
something and that someone's got something that belongs to them,
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instead of looking at the politics that have systematically taken
from them. If I can convince you that the reason
why you don't have anything is because I gave it
to black people who made me feel bad about slavery,
then you can.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Be mad at them, and then you don't.
Speaker 11 (47:04):
Wonder why I supposed need this budget. I'm charging five
thousand dollars for it.
Speaker 8 (47:09):
And I think I think we understand that. I think
we understand that well. And I have.
Speaker 12 (47:14):
Something to say about the way that the elephant places
his foot down on your on your foot listen, the
second question that I got today, you were going to
ask about Trump changing the holidays, making the day before
Christmas in the day after Christmas a federal holiday. And see,
(47:35):
this is an exercise and power. That is actually the
elephant putting his foot down on your foot. Because you
know what Trump is doing while he's trying to make
Christmas a holy holiday.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
He also has.
Speaker 12 (47:48):
Eliminated black federal holidays like MLK Day. You can't get
into a national park for free, no more on any
black holiday that the federal government used to observe. This
is a way that the elephant puts his foot on you,
on your foot.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
And and that's why again, well let's let's let's we
got ten minutes.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
We got ten minutes, and that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
I think that I know, and we don't want to
spend minutes. We don't want to spend this.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
I think I think we should spend it.
Speaker 9 (48:21):
This is not abby, This is not the Abbey Phillips show.
We don't talk over each other. No, but hold on,
hold on, baby, you're doing the marvelous shop. But we've
got ten minutes, and we need to move toward getting
that elephant off of our foot, describing the people too,
people that despite the takeover, the attempt to take over
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our joy, the attempt to describe for us what should
be our joy, we've got to resist that, and we
resist that. How One of the ways we resist that
is stepping into the traditions of our life. Jamaican cream
rum cake delivered to our friends. Sometimes they pay for it,
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sometimes they don't. But that is a door opener and
a mind opener and a statement of love. That's what
I'd like to spend the next ten minutes on talking
about the thing, talking about the things that empower us,
that allow us to continue to set the pace for
the rest of the world as we attempt to save humanity.
(49:30):
We're not stuck looking at the dummy. And that's what
we prove every week. That's what we prove every time
we go about doing something.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
We write a song.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
Nobody intended for Michael Jackson to capture the hearts of
these young white kids like he did everybody else across
that planet, not.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
Just in America.
Speaker 9 (49:49):
So the things that you guys do in the world
of entertainment are very critical because that's kicking the elephant
off the foot, making him fancy music.
Speaker 8 (50:01):
What are the things.
Speaker 9 (50:03):
That allow our soul to come out and be the
tune that the world dances too?
Speaker 12 (50:10):
I have a very direct answer. I don't know how
many of your viewers or listeners have a greenhouse going
on in their backyard. I don't know how many of
you guys are trying to be self sufficient. But you
need to be growing your own food. You need to
be saving the food, can goods, whatever. You need to
be doing something proactive. Whenever I hear I understand the
(50:32):
question that you're asking me, mister Waller Sala, what can
we do positive? You know, last month, November, we fed
five hundred people through Loop Productions.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
We do that every year, and I'm sure you're very
aware of that.
Speaker 12 (50:46):
As a matter of fact, you've been out there to
help us several times, and so there are things to do.
But if you want to do something personally in your life,
because every time Donald Trump says something or does something
that makes me mad, I go out to my greenhouse
and I plant something. Nah, I do something to make
myself more self efficient. And I'm hoping everybody else does that,
(51:08):
because right now it's winter and all I got is lemons.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I need to trade these lemons.
Speaker 12 (51:12):
For somebody who's been growing something that I got lemons
and eggs.
Speaker 8 (51:17):
Lemons and eggs.
Speaker 9 (51:19):
Yeah, I know somebody in the springing to be better.
But right now, somebody, somebody's got too many zukinis. They
need to give you a copy and oranges. And but
but that's the nature that we need to move into.
We need to remember those that aspect the point.
Speaker 11 (51:40):
The point being first of all, that your joy can
never ever, ever, ever ever no other person, good person,
bad person, wonderful person, a person who agnores you, a
person who hates you. Your joy has to start inside
of you. And the most beautiful thing that every last
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one of us has is the ability to make a
joyful noise, even if we don't feel like it's.
Speaker 6 (52:16):
I have several No, not a record producer.
Speaker 11 (52:20):
No, not a record producer, because before I ever knew
what a producer was, I was a singer and what
and before I knew I had.
Speaker 6 (52:28):
A voice, I sang. We teach babies to sing. We babies.
Speaker 11 (52:34):
Babies come out making noises that have harmonies and sounds.
And I say that to say we were created with
a voice. And when things in the world are happening
around you, on your job, on the television that make
you feel like you have no voice. The first thing
you need to do is remind yourself that you do.
(52:57):
And that starts with a song. Everybody's got a favorite song.
If you don't have a favorite song, I don't trust you.
Speaker 8 (53:03):
If you don't have a favorite song, I.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
Sing, I have to like your song.
Speaker 11 (53:06):
But if you don't have a favorite song, no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 8 (53:10):
I know what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing.
Speaker 9 (53:13):
I'm just adding on to it that I tell you, guys,
when you're growing up, I said, I'm going to tell
you hold on five minutes, that I am the captain
of the ship.
Speaker 12 (53:22):
Right.
Speaker 11 (53:23):
I tell you, guys, they invited me. I'm a guest,
so you have to you have to refer to the guests.
Sometimes it's a little bit that.
Speaker 8 (53:29):
Now, can you tell that's my dog? What of my saying?
Speaker 11 (53:34):
And this is what's important, and this is why Michael
Jackson captured the hearts of.
Speaker 6 (53:38):
Millions and millions of people all over the world will
look nothing like him.
Speaker 11 (53:42):
The ability to create a song that other people see
themselves in and then are able to sing is what.
Speaker 6 (53:50):
Changes the world.
Speaker 11 (53:52):
So when when we said reach out and touch somebody's hand,
we didn't say reach out and touch some black somebody's
hands is.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
Whatever it could acted for you.
Speaker 11 (54:00):
So what I'm saying is anyone listening to the sound
of my voice right now has.
Speaker 6 (54:05):
The ability to find a song where they see themselves
or hear themselves and sing it back to themselves. You're right,
and that is the beginning.
Speaker 11 (54:14):
And don't worry about whether or not you can write,
don't worry about whether or not you can quote unquote sing.
Speaker 8 (54:20):
And that's and that's said that.
Speaker 9 (54:24):
But you said, please, please, please, People standing around in
the shower could sing a song that nobody ever heard
and nobody else could ever hear.
Speaker 8 (54:34):
Their voice, but makes.
Speaker 6 (54:36):
Them feel better Like that makes them feel better.
Speaker 9 (54:39):
And that's the idea you first said. You said first,
people have to have it inside of themselves first.
Speaker 8 (54:46):
And all I'm saying is.
Speaker 9 (54:47):
Agree with you that you glory in your When you
feel the glory inside you make your cheerful noise. Maybe
somebody else will like it, maybe they won't. Michael Jackson,
probably I made some songs that everybody didn't like. I
was a Jimmy Hendricks fan I would have loved to
hear I mean, he could have put it and I'd
have thought that was a music. But at the same time,
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everybody's not like that. Everybody doesn't create that type of charisma.
Speaker 8 (55:17):
What we do to make.
Speaker 9 (55:19):
Ourselves feel better and smile because if it causes a smile,
chances are you can make somebody else smile. I agree
that mainly we have the ability to make ourselves stronger
by looking inside. But once we look inside, that thing
that occurs there has to reflect out. We do affect
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other people. I love what you said Mac about sharing
your guard, sharing what grows, what you grow, and when
somebody takes you off you miss you have to remember
I said it when you've got the blues as a
young person, when things are not going right, I say,
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write it down because hopefully you'll never go back there again.
Speaker 8 (56:07):
But get the song while you're there.
Speaker 12 (56:09):
That's right, And let me catch one of these last
four minutes, please, And let me say when I share
my garden stuff and what I'm doing here, I'm not
doing it out of kumbaya and loving feelings. I want
I'm trying to encourage and share. I want other black
people to do this. Because listen to me, you may
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not have that friend that is depressing you. You may
not have that friend that is messing up things.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
In your life.
Speaker 12 (56:39):
Most of us do, though, And the thing is, you
don't want hunger to touch you in that way. You
don't want hunger to become an issue for you. We
have to get down to business people. We have to
start growing our own food. And I know it sounds
corny or whatever, but hey, it's just as good as
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singing a song to yourself. Grow something.
Speaker 9 (57:05):
Mac When they were talking about the price of eggs,
I guess you kind of had to laugh, didn't you.
Speaker 12 (57:10):
Yeah, because I haven't bought eggs in four years. I mean, like,
I have to go to the grocery store and check
what they were talking about.
Speaker 9 (57:21):
I do remember you bringing me some eggs to the
radio session once. That was amazing. Yeah, that's that's what
we need to do. I mean, we all have to
do that. I spread I give out eggs at comedy show.
I give out lemons. I have packed I got a
vacuum sealer. I packed this stuff up. I make my
own beef jerky.
Speaker 12 (57:39):
We dehydrate lemons, we give out fresh limits, we give
out eggs.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
We grow food, we grow vegetables.
Speaker 12 (57:46):
Listen, we all have to start changing the way we
live because guess what the economy is about, crash. You
guys are gonna see some stuff in the next year,
and you're gonna look back at this and say, oh
my gosh, Mac, what do you talking about?
Speaker 9 (58:01):
My goodness? Okay, guys, miss you give us a word
of encouragement. Mac, you got to say. We got about
a minute and a half to do that. Miss me.
Speaker 11 (58:17):
Her words of standing up on a Sunday on a
platform as music played with a microphone in my hand.
I watch people come in from a long week, tired
and wondered what I could possibly give them.
Speaker 6 (58:30):
I'm not a trained minister, I'm not a.
Speaker 11 (58:32):
Speaker, and literally what I would do is I would pray,
and I would hear God say look at them, so
that they know I see them.
Speaker 6 (58:41):
And so I say that to say sound music.
Speaker 11 (58:44):
People who are tired, who don't want to hear another
word about how bad things are because they don't know
what to do about it any way, can take a
song and feel better.
Speaker 6 (58:56):
So fine a song.
Speaker 11 (58:58):
I have playlists of songs I didn't because there have
been times in my life where I've been in too
much pain to articulate what I felt. But thank God,
Tina Marie could, Marvin Gaye could, Kaylanie could, Hell, Harry Styles.
Speaker 6 (59:10):
Could, By Marley could, Yeah, him too.
Speaker 11 (59:14):
But I say that to say right now, in the
midst of this the one beautiful thing about this time
of year is there is so much beautiful music that
is full of.
Speaker 6 (59:24):
Love and encouragement and peace. Let it wash over you
like water.
Speaker 9 (59:28):
Let it wash over your like water. Crazy or are
you back, yes, sir? Words of encouragement.
Speaker 12 (59:36):
My words of encouragement is go out, relax and enjoy
the holidays. Enjoy your family. The best thing about the
holidays is spending time with family. And so right now,
for the next couple of weeks, relax, recuperate and enjoy
your family.
Speaker 8 (59:51):
Very good, Okay, family, Love you, guys, Thank you. Hope
to see it all right.
Speaker 7 (59:55):
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Speaker 8 (06:01):
It's time for me right now. This is Brad Jog's
back on Wallace Salem.
Speaker 9 (06:05):
I'm here on the case for truth and justice with
the right information to help improve the situation.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
Miss and macmill be joining me very shortly.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
But I want to remind you folks that you know,
in this day and age, where we have so much
communication coming at us thousands of miles an hour from
fifty different directions, we have to figure out how to
stay in charge of my mind, stay in charge of
my activities. Understand that there are things that we're supposed
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to get involved in that are outside. But that doesn't
work if you don't keep the inside clear and tight.
This is the holiday season, this is Christmas, Jesus's birthday.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
It's not time for shopping and presents and all. Let
me do that. And we want to have parties, we
want to get along with the dream, but we have
to stick with the reality. And part of that is
to be.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Loving and caring to those things, the people that are
ready to focus. So we can't keep looking over the
shoulders of our loveds at the enemy of the distance,
the distractions of the distance. This is the time for
us to gather, to be happy and appreciative, not satisfied,
(07:35):
but appreciative. There's a difference. The ocean is never satisfied
by a perfect wave, but it makes perfect waves all
the time. But the satisfaction isn't there. It's appreciation.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
It's the desire.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Appreciation gives you the desire to keep on going, to
know where you are, to realize that where I am
isn't necessarily where I want to be, but sometimes I
gotta stay where I am in order to get where
I want to be. In staying where you are, if
you are in a say, swimming pool doesn't mean that you.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Just stop moving.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
You gotta tread water, and treading water in the swimming
pool is probably the hardest swim motion that you can make,
trying to stay still in a moving atmosphere. But if
my friend River was here, he tells you that the
Bible and the Lord says that sometimes it's critical to.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Be able to be still, be still and appreciate Today,
we're gonna have Mac and Missions join us and then
bring him up.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
As soon as you've got him in, bring him up.
I'll see him on the screen there. Okay, we'll call
him up. Do what you gotta do, bring him in.
But at the same time that we're looking forward to
hearing from Michewa and hearing from Mac, I wond to
remind you how much I appreciate them.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Mac is a.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Full time comedian, he's a philosopher, he's an artist, got
things to do, he's a podcaster, but he makes a
little time to come hang out with us and share
what goes on in his mind. Misha Man talk about busy.
She is definitely an entrepreneur.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Earned her a gold record with.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Betty right when she was I don't want to mispronounciage.
But she was a young girl nineteen twenty years old,
twenty one, I don't know earned her a gold record
singing Betty Rights Woops you walk. But Betty Right who
a legend. She's produced music. She's now a music administrator,
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an entrepreneur. These people have thing that they are doing
that are unusually powerful and good things that they can
spend their time doing as opposed to, you know, just
hanging around and hanging out, and so I appreciate them.
(10:18):
I appreciate you for listening. I appreciate that you may
not listen at the time of the broadcast, but you
may pick up the podcast. I appreciate that because I
know that you could be totally distracted and not have time,
not have time, or not take time, and not have
(10:38):
the mental strengths to say, I want to listen to Wallace.
I don't care how good Anthony is on the bass guitar.
I don't have time to listen to it. But you
do listen, and I appreciate that. So we want to
say some things and do some things for you that
are kind, generate some kindness from us to you.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
And make you a little bit smarter.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
If that's possible, but definitely to make you a bit
more prepared for what's really going on in life here.
It's a big thing. It's not simple. This is the
time of year when you guys are going to feel
a little I don't care who you are, you feel
a little inadequate because there's so much that you want
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to do. There's people that you want to salute, those
gifts that you want to buy, just people that you
want to hug that are not even not even on
the planet anymore.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 9 (11:36):
How do you stay strong in the midst storm of
emotions that Christmas, New Year's, these holidays take you through.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I just know that it's something that if you look
a little past what you think is a problem, you
will see something there that can make you happy. If
it's nothing but standing around at the watching children, If
you watch children and see the happiness that just the
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sound of a bell, just the impression that this imaginary
fat man is gonna come down their chimney.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
The things that make them smile are artificial in.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Most cases, but the smile is real, and the feeling
that you can get from sharing that smile, making that
smile is very real something to look forward to.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
So I want to thank us for.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Taking the moments to be appreciative. And I'm not asking you,
are suggesting to you that you should be satisfying. Just remember,
standing still in a move in a moving atmosphere requires
a lot of strength. So respect those people that are
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not moving as fast as you would like to see
them move, or moving in the direction that you would
like to see them move. Their relationship is with God
and you, So we have to respect that part that
God controls or represents. That's really the end story for
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most of us. How do we get along with the
rules of God? How do we get along with the
parameters morality that we've set during the course of our life.
And our parameters individually don't necessarily represent the parameters of
other people, you know, So you can't count other people's money,
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you can't count other people's blessings, and you can't count
what Saint Peter's going to say to him when it's
their time. I know a man who lived a lie.
Now he's afraid to die. You see, he cheated his
(14:12):
friends for the sake of a dime. He felt no
pain at all. Man, But the devil had come to
claim his soul. My man felt oh so small. But
there's no place to run. There was no place to hide,
you see, the devil was on his trail. There was
no place to turn for a kind word, no friend
(14:37):
to give him a kind word that could pay his bill. Oh,
it's a dunk gounn shame, and it's too damn bad.
I feel like I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
A friend of mine traded is soul for girl. Now
he's afraid to die.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
You may be confronted in life one.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Day with a choice that's hard to make. But if
it's a question of your soul for goal, I hope
you'll know which one to take. Don't trade your soul
for goal, my friend. The price will never be right
enough for you to The price will never be right
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enough for you to cast away your soul.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
The price will never be right enough for you.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
To cast your soul to endless night. No, my friend,
don't trade your soul for goal. The price way too much.
So I say all of that to say love is
the answer. Love is the key that's direction for you,
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certainly the key for me. So remember, whenever you make one,
you make two, one for him.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
And one for you.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Whatever you make, aim more than you want to take.
Because sure enough threw the arc down the line, you're
bound to get what you thought was mine. Send me
love and I'll do the same. That'll make your life
better and leave us with no one left to blame.
We're going to take a short break here on Empire
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Talks back on Waviace. Allen will be right back after
this short break and we'll get a chance to.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Help you work your way through life.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Before we go, I want to give you this little
tidbit that was passing along to me. One of the
ways to reward the little porch thieves that we see
taking advantage of our the boxes on our porch. I
got a note the other day and said, if you
have junk that you're trying to get rid of, package
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it in an Amazon box and leave it.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
On your front porch.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Huhraha A not not a bad idea. If the jumped
in your house your yard will fit in an Amazon box,
foot it in an Amazon box and leave that box
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on your front porch as a gift to the porch poets.
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Celebrate the holiday season with Inland Pacific Ballets. The Nutcracker,
set to Tchaikowsky's classic score, follow Clara from the Land
of Snow through the Kingdom of Sweets with more than
eighty dancers and special guest artists, exquisite sets, costumes, and
cherished scenes. A must see holiday tradition.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
For all ages.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Experience so CAW's signature holiday production with four performances at
Bridges Auditorium in Claremont on December thirteenth and fourteenth, and
three at Fox Performing Arts Center in Riverside on December
twentieth and twenty first Tickets are available at ip Ballet
dot org. That's ip Ballett.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The segment sponsored in part by the Fat Greek Restaurant
in Ukaipa where it's Opapa.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
All right, we're back. This is in Para talks Back.
I'm Wallace Allen on the case for truth and justice.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
With the right.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Information to help improve the situation. I just gave you
guys a nugget, you know, for our porch pirates. I
hope that didn't sound evil. I don't know anyway. Mischewa,
Are you there? Ma'am Ah looks like she hung up
(20:09):
on the phone. That's all right, see if you can
get her back. I don't blame her. Yeah, here you are?
Is there?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
She is? How you doing to her?
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I've forgotten my little introduction earlier. One of the other
great things that Mishah does is she is the rum
cake lady rum Cake, you.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Know, Jamaican rum.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Cream Jamaican rum cream cake.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
And if she sends you one of those, don't leave
it on the on the front porch too long, because
the porch fibers really enjoy Jamaican rum cream cake, didn't they?
And we ever get her cake squared away?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Okay, because uh I had sent somebody over there to
try to get it before she got to it, But
I guess she got it. Those things make you do
things you didn't that you're not really proud of, but
you're still willing to brag about it because the drum
cake does that to you.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I don't know, full of love, full.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Of it's full of love and all the things that
make a special very good.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
So so what do you think about the idea of.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Taking your house junk and putting it in the Amazon
box and leaving it on your front porch for the
porch pirates?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Is that a good U? Is that a good thing
to do? Or do you think I'm wasting uh wasting
an effort?
Speaker 9 (21:53):
There?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Mac? How you doing all right?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
How does everybody knowing this morning?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (21:58):
God, it's great. We're grateful, very good. Yeah, man, I
took a break in. Just before the break I gave
people a master hint for Christmas called if you got junk,
where to get rid of your junk? Is they're packing
in an Amazon box and put it on the front porch.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
With hope set.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Yeah, that just sounds like there's some other issues at hand,
and I don't. I don't really, I don't really have here,
But listen, I can think of a bunch of decoy
things that you could put out there.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
To deter porch pirate.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Oh really, And I.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Can think of a lot of things that you can
put in that box other than junk that would definitely detort.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
I don't know where your mind went on that, but
mine went really to the flush zone.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Flush, yeah, said flush.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
You know I I think this time of year, you know,
given that kind.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Of energy to a potential porch pirate, I would rather
just say, well, he must have needed it more not yet.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Well, okay, since you said that, are you apt to
leave a slice or a half of your Jamaican cream
run take.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Out on the porch for the porch pirate? Are you
that kind?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
No, I don't. I don't feed porch pirates. I don't
pet peeves. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
I don't do any of those kind of things. You know,
if I don't want your company or your presents are
your energy, I give you as little attention as possible
so that you don't feel the pole.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Okay, okay, have you had a Have you had a
visit from a porch pirate, either one of you.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
I have several times, Wow, in my neighborhood. It's almost
like they followed the bed a truck around well and energy,
and sometimes I think they workers are working with them.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
I did have an experience.
Speaker 11 (24:04):
I had an experience, but I'm pretty sure that it
was actually the delivery company and not the porch pirate.
Is about three years ago, Beyonce did this cowboy Adidas
drop that had this bad purple and white like coutprint jacket,
and I was one of the few people that hit
the order in time, and they used a different delivery service,
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I'm kind of a private service, not FedEx, And two
days later it showed that it was delivered and it
hadn't been anywhere near my house, and so I had
to call and report it immediately, but all they could
really do was refund my money. And I was kind
of ticked off because I was like, oh, you and
I both know that the resale value of this jacket
is now more than I ever paid for it, So
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I don't I'm not happy with any of you right now,
but I think that was a plot. I don't think
that was a porch pirate. I don't think it made
it to the porch. I think who was ever, whoever
was getting paid twelve dollars an hour.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I want to look at that and said, listen.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Well, at twelve dollars an hour, I can't say I
blame them. Did you call Beyonce and double check on
that or.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Is there a direction?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:14):
But but I'm sure I wasn't the only one, because again,
it's resale value, and I'm just pretty sure that the
company they used, because it wasn't a company that necessarily
needed to be worried about a reputation.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
The employees probably it.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Was almost like an uber type service that they were
using that Adidas chose to use.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Man, I tell you, with that conspiracy theory, you're qualified
direct for president?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Oh no, I don't want that.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Well, I mean, I'm just saying you're qualified. I know
your wisdom probably goes beyond the design.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
But that's the thing is, I tend to think that
the majority of the people who are qualified are too smart.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I used to.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
I've always felt like that's the kind of job that
somebody like God would have to call me, text me,
send a confirmation a burning bush split a c like,
I'd have to really know for sure that's what we're
doing today.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
I think I think if most of the burning bush,
we probably called the dog on Friday burning no.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Opposed to.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
Yeah, that has to be a calling because there are
too many other things, especially as a black woman, that
would have to be a mighty, mighty call.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
I don't even know.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
I don't even know how Michelle did it as first
Lady because I'd have been locked up.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
I'm just going to say that in politics, the burning
bush actually.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Lives on top of Donald Trump's head.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
That bushes didn't do nothing in you to inspected that way,
and a.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Bush done nothing to you for you to treat a
bush like that matter.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
I'm saying like, if we ever in politics, I'm not
speaking spiritually or religiously, but in politics, if we ever
needed a burning bush, literally, we have burning bush on
top of the President's head and he's just tearing this
place down and setting it on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
So yeah, we not I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 12 (27:13):
Religiously, we don't have that, but politically we definitely have
a burning bush.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
Listen, one of the things I saw this week not
even so much of burning bush For the Kennedy who
said she's gonna take a pick axe to the Kennedy Center,
I never thought. I honestly, you know, the Kennedys tend
to be known at least for their public decorum. For
Kennedy to finally say, listen, I'm gonna take a pick
axe myself and take your name off of this building,
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they have been sufficiently triggered.
Speaker 12 (27:45):
Yes, because he did name the Kennedy Senator the Donald
Trump Kennedy Senator and Art center like the Arts is
now like third place that Donald trum handy in the arts.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, this guy is.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I think he met Fart Center.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
I think I think he thought there was an f
and I think he met part Center and at that
point said I am exceptionally qualified, you know to have
a farts center.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
N So I think, you know.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
I just honestly, I don't know if I'm just too
prayed up, but I just refuse. I've been seeing too
many crazy people in my lifetime to be distracted from
the idea. And listen, I already know what I'm gonna
do with you the first opportunity I get.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So I'm not even really this right here.
Speaker 11 (28:40):
This is a busy work for you already made a
decision about how I'm going to.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Have Well, okay, let's let's let's see if today we
can give folks UH.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
A brighter light to look at for the holiday.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Because I can imagine that with the all of the
issues of the economy, all the issues of the emotions
that go on with the holiday, the doubts, the concerns
that unscheduled scheduling that has to take place, that people
got to be looking for some kind of relief. I
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was hoping my ports pirate comment might give for a
little relief and solution at the same time. How can
we give some good advice for the year, for the
for the holiday, UH, that will allow people to kind
of remember that this is despite the issues, we have
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much to free to appreciate. We have much that we
should focus on or could focus on that represents the
progress individually. If if emotionally we're still here, that means
we have described some emotional strength at some point, UH,
we've got some reasons to wake up and look forward
(30:04):
to a month from now.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
That means we're making some kind of plans that we have.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Some positive, really positive things in our life that we
should continue to focus on while this bridge that we
appear to need is burning, because we will find another way,
as if this bridge of civilization to civilization, if we
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black folks have traditionally been able to create another way
to get to the building that they want to get
to because of the detours that racism, the detours that
false capitalism, the detours that false socialism, the detours that
(30:58):
life can just force you to take. We have been
taking these detours without really even thinking about it. And
I think that there's something to that. As God is
pretty accurate with whom he wants to.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Make examples of, and I think He's made an.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
Example of Black folk to show the persistence, the resilience,
and the star power from the bottom of the barrel
that we are able to affect. And to concentrate on
that a little bit during this season is what I'd
like to see if we can we can do there's
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something great going on, if it's nothing but the resistance
to the something that is so terrible going on, You guys,
both of you, once again are doers and accomplishers, and.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
You make it happen despite not because but despiked. What's
going on around.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Uh, Dave Chappelle dropped the dropped a nugget on the
stale tonight.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Did you guys happen to see that?
Speaker 11 (32:18):
I haven't watched it yet. I'm saving I'm saving my
time for when I can just curl up on the
sofa save it.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I haven't. I haven't watched it. But I am a
comedian and I have a lot of comedians on my
Facebook and on my Instagram, and so I've heard a
lot of what he heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
He spoke some hard truths last night.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
No, he spoke some hard words that some people will
glory in. Is this is the truth that some other
people are going to say? Wow, that's wow, Dave. Dave
Chappelle is a master. I'm I'm, I'm I'm. I've always
been impressed with his ability to make me laugh at
(33:05):
something that I didn't really think I would hear coming
out of somebody else's mouth. That matched what was in
my mind going on silent stuff that Yes, well I
don't I don't need to say that. Maybe I shouldn't
say that, And there it is. Dave Chappelle said it
(33:25):
out loud.
Speaker 12 (33:27):
Yes, he's a master at his craft. I admire him
a lot. He does say a lot of things, and
you know, as a comedian sometimes it's hard to breach
political content, but Dave Chappelle does it excellently.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
If there was one thing that I would like to
say that he that he brings up that a lot
of people bring up, then they mix it up, and
that's that if you don't agree with Israeli politics, you're
somehow anti Semitic. That doesn't make sense to me, because
(34:05):
Judaism is religion and Israeli government is not.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I would like to say some Can I interject some
right here?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Please?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Anti Semitic?
Speaker 12 (34:14):
Semitic means of people based around the Mediterranean Sea. Do
you know that Palestinians are Semitic people as well?
Speaker 8 (34:23):
And you couldn't tell them apart if you looked at them.
Speaker 12 (34:26):
So when somebody is telling you you're anti Semitic, no, listen.
The only person who is demonstrating anti Semitic behavior are
European and Jewish immigrants to Israel.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
You mean the ones that Europe didn't want and so
they created a space for them so they could safely
kick them out of Europe and kick them out of America.
Speaker 12 (34:48):
So they felt it they have a name for themselves.
They call themselves Zionists, but these are basically European immigrants.
And so really, the way I look at the whole
country of Israel, it's a colonization project, just like America
was for England. But this is it has a long history.
(35:12):
I mean, you gotta you, guys. It's not even just
and this started in like we want to say, nineteen hundred,
nineteen sixty four, World War two, but no.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
This has been going on since the Crusades.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
The Europeans have been trying to claw their way into
Jerusalem and Israel for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And Isaac and Ishmael have been fighting since they were born.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Well, once again, the people who practiced Judaism, Islam, the
religions of the Mediterranean area. That's that's not a government,
that's a religion. And I'm not against anybody's religion. Now,
(36:02):
I can be against government, and I don't have to
go across any ocean to be against some of the
things that government does. I don't even have to leave California.
I don't have to leave San Bernardino. But that doesn't
make me an anti San Bernardinite because I don't like
some of the things that the government does.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Doesn't make me anti American.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Because I don't like some things that American government does.
I think this idea of constantly allowing ourselves to let
other people pick fights for us is an issue that
we can something we can do something about. I'm not
mad at Venezuela. I am very upset that my reputation
(36:50):
as an American is being tainted by the murders that
my government is doing to the people that are in
the boats that they're by me in the area of
Venezuela in the name of a drug board. Anti of
course they were, but they did that to my neighbors.
They did that to people who okay with the drug war.
(37:17):
It's another thing of white supremacy, the drug war.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 12 (37:23):
And the reason why I brought up colonization when I
was speaking about Israel, because it's a mindset. Now, listen,
what Donald Trump has said he's trying to do in
Venezuela is I'm going down there and I'm gonna take
the oil. They're oil because they made some business contracts
with us in the past that were shady and they
(37:44):
didn't honor up to our shady dealings, and so now
I feel like I have the authority to go in
there and still these people's natural resources. Now, listen, that's
the same thing that's happening in Israel, whether anybody wants
to open their eyes to it or not. We are
dealing with people who are colonizing the world, stealing people's
resources and then using them. All they are doing is
(38:06):
putting a pretty face on it. And the face ain't
so pretty. When it comes to Donald Trump, he's not good.
He's not up to the job. He can't paint a
pretty picture. Oh, it's all coming out. So I understand
what you're saying. I even heard the first question he
was going to ask on this podcast was was Jesus immigrant?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Jesus was an immigrant?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Absolutely, well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
If Jesus was an immigrant, how did he go down
to Egypt and hide from Herod?
Speaker 9 (38:39):
The concept of going down leaving one aspect. See, I
live in San Bernardido. If I go over to and
I do go into Rialito or go into Hyland, I'm
an immigrant.
Speaker 12 (38:55):
No, Okay, listen to me. Let me put it to you,
and let me put it to you in a different way.
Because I think that we look at it from today's
point of view, and we need to look at it
from a historical point of view and a historical point
of view. The country we call Israel today used to
be a province of ancient Egypt. The Egyptians were black.
The reason why Jesus could go and hide and Egypt
(39:16):
is because he was indistinguishable from other black people. That
means he wasn't an immigrant. He was in his own
home country, but it.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Was occupied by foreigners.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, but they make it seem like Jesus was the immigrant.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Okay, Jesus wasn't the immigrant.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
I know he was.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
He was the asylum seeker, I know, but I like, yeah,
they were asylum seekers because Herod, who was Herod, who
was working for the Romans and wanting to maintain Rome's
power and hold in this occupied territory, had heard that
(40:01):
this savior was going to be born, and in his mind,
just like it was in Saul's mind, and just like
it was in Pharaoh's mind, I heard that there's gonna
be this kid, and at some point this kid is
going to be able to come and take my power.
I'm not sure who the kid is, So I'm gonna
kill all.
Speaker 12 (40:19):
The kids and I totally understand that. But what I'm
saying is there is a different point of view, African
historical point of view. These people that we are calling
Israelites today and what the Bible how you just referred
to story is actually coming from a Jewish perspective. From
(40:40):
the African perspective, these people were always us Jesus. Christianity
actually was in Africa before it was in Europe.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
Well, the other thing is this, and I keep pointing
out to people, ever so graciously, Jesus wasn't Christian and
and in fact, Christianity quote unquote, and the Catholic Church
was a whole nother day for a whole nother day,
for a home.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're talking about the council.
Speaker 11 (41:14):
That understanding understanding it was a political decision, it was
never a spiritual decision. Because the thing about churches, and
I say this as someone who attends two services every.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Sunday by the way online, and.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
As someone who was raised with an understanding that God
doesn't just occupy churches, that God that we are the temple,
our body is the temple of God. What I say
is that when you can control the people's perception of God,
you then control the people. And when they recognized that
more than one hundred years after his so called death
(41:52):
and resurrection, there were still these people who fervently believed
in this resurrection, these Romans and Greek said, oh, oh,
we've already got the crazy Jews, and we've already got
the crazy Muslims. And if we let this get out
of hand, us and our little pagan pagan butts are
just really not gonna have no power. So we need
to get together and decide how we can create a
religion and let's take some of this.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
That's what hold on. If y'all think that Paul wasn't taken, listen.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But hold on, hold On.
Speaker 9 (42:19):
Hold On just killed him.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
They wanted his information, and his hold on kept him along.
Speaker 9 (42:26):
Hold On, you're both very right, uh. And mac your
your your history is very revealing. And it made me
realize that I had bit the apple, and I chewed
the apple and and and did what Trump wants us
to do. And that's here's the lies. So many times
(42:46):
that we start repeating it, Uh, the concept of the
white Egyptians is a lie. Uh, But it's been said
and moved around so long that we believe it, despite
the fact that the Bible tells us that he was
brown and bully haired.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
Jesus.
Speaker 9 (43:09):
I saw for two minutes, Uh, Kevin Costner's peace last
night on the True Story of Christmas, and it took
me two minutes to realize that everybody that he had
on screen describing Jesus in the Birth of Jesus and
that whole circumstance was white. I said, no, man, so
(43:33):
I had I had to turn channel. I have nothing
against white people. I have something against this constant push
for white supremacy based on telling overt obvious lies.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
We seek at the motivation.
Speaker 9 (43:54):
No, no, no, no, this is this is this is why,
this is why, missy. Please, I understand that if an
elephant is standing on my foot, I don't give a
fat rat's elbow about his motivation.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
I want him off my foot.
Speaker 9 (44:11):
So I'm not trying to understand white supremacy, but I
will recognize it as quick as possible and turn the channel.
That's that's my point. I cannot stop. I cannot stop people.
You I you, I understand. That's why I'm here today.
(44:32):
That's why I'm here today to denounce it. And this
is this I'm here today to denounce it. And announce
to others that there's some truth that we will all miss.
And I miss some truth and Mac woke me up
a few minutes ago. And all of that to say
(44:54):
that all nine hundred years of my life that I've
been a black man trying to be on understanding, I
still slip.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
And we all slip.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
And today, as I said earlier, we tend to be
so defensive about what's going on around us that we
are not offensive enough to continue to practice to protect
the truth of our source, to protect the truth of
our potential. And when we speak to the potential of
(45:31):
black folk, we're really speaking to the potential of saving
the world.
Speaker 11 (45:38):
And that's why that's why you know, not to interrupt
you important.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
It does become very important not just.
Speaker 11 (45:47):
Where we put our attention, but where we train our
children to put their attention. And that's why for me
it has a lot. It's not so much that I
don't want the elephant off my foot, but if my
physical strength is not enough to get the elephant off
my foot, I have to stop and think for a minute,
because maybe I need to set the elephant's foot on
fire so it'll move it.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
And so that's what.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
I'm saying, is it can't everything can't be about defense.
Is we have to acknowledge where we are, acknowledge what
has motivated what has motivated white supremacy, because white supremacy
wasn't motivated by hate, It wasn't motivated.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
It's every You have to.
Speaker 11 (46:27):
Understand the politics behind certain decisions and the lives that
are told to people to people. And it's not intended
for you to buy it. It's not intended for me
to buy it. It's intended for young white It's intended
for white people who already feel like they are missing
something and that someone's got something that belongs to them,
(46:48):
instead of looking at the politics that have systematically taken
from them. If I can convince you that the reason
why you don't have anything is because I gave it
to black people who made me feel bad about slavery,
then you can.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Be mad at them, and then you don't.
Speaker 11 (47:04):
Wonder why I supposed need this budget. I'm charging five
thousand dollars for it.
Speaker 8 (47:09):
And I think I think we understand that. I think
we understand that well. And I have.
Speaker 12 (47:14):
Something to say about the way that the elephant places
his foot down on your on your foot listen, the
second question that I got today, you were going to
ask about Trump changing the holidays, making the day before
Christmas in the day after Christmas a federal holiday. And see,
(47:35):
this is an exercise and power. That is actually the
elephant putting his foot down on your foot. Because you
know what Trump is doing while he's trying to make
Christmas a holy holiday.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
He also has.
Speaker 12 (47:48):
Eliminated black federal holidays like MLK Day. You can't get
into a national park for free, no more on any
black holiday that the federal government used to observe. This
is a way that the elephant puts his foot on you,
on your foot.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
And and that's why again, well let's let's let's we
got ten minutes.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
We got ten minutes, and that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
I think that I know, and we don't want to
spend minutes. We don't want to spend this.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
I think I think we should spend it.
Speaker 9 (48:21):
This is not abby, This is not the Abbey Phillips show.
We don't talk over each other. No, but hold on,
hold on, baby, you're doing the marvelous shop. But we've
got ten minutes, and we need to move toward getting
that elephant off of our foot, describing the people too,
people that despite the takeover, the attempt to take over
(48:43):
our joy, the attempt to describe for us what should
be our joy, we've got to resist that, and we
resist that. How One of the ways we resist that
is stepping into the traditions of our life. Jamaican cream
rum cake delivered to our friends. Sometimes they pay for it,
(49:05):
sometimes they don't. But that is a door opener and
a mind opener and a statement of love. That's what
I'd like to spend the next ten minutes on talking
about the thing, talking about the things that empower us,
that allow us to continue to set the pace for
the rest of the world as we attempt to save humanity.
(49:30):
We're not stuck looking at the dummy. And that's what
we prove every week. That's what we prove every time
we go about doing something.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
We write a song.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
Nobody intended for Michael Jackson to capture the hearts of
these young white kids like he did everybody else across
that planet, not.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
Just in America.
Speaker 9 (49:49):
So the things that you guys do in the world
of entertainment are very critical because that's kicking the elephant
off the foot, making him fancy music.
Speaker 8 (50:01):
What are the things.
Speaker 9 (50:03):
That allow our soul to come out and be the
tune that the world dances too?
Speaker 12 (50:10):
I have a very direct answer. I don't know how
many of your viewers or listeners have a greenhouse going
on in their backyard. I don't know how many of
you guys are trying to be self sufficient. But you
need to be growing your own food. You need to
be saving the food, can goods, whatever. You need to
be doing something proactive. Whenever I hear I understand the
(50:32):
question that you're asking me, mister Waller Sala, what can
we do positive? You know, last month, November, we fed
five hundred people through Loop Productions.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
We do that every year, and I'm sure you're very
aware of that.
Speaker 12 (50:46):
As a matter of fact, you've been out there to
help us several times, and so there are things to do.
But if you want to do something personally in your life,
because every time Donald Trump says something or does something
that makes me mad, I go out to my greenhouse
and I plant something. Nah, I do something to make
myself more self efficient. And I'm hoping everybody else does that,
(51:08):
because right now it's winter and all I got is lemons.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I need to trade these lemons.
Speaker 12 (51:12):
For somebody who's been growing something that I got lemons
and eggs.
Speaker 8 (51:17):
Lemons and eggs.
Speaker 9 (51:19):
Yeah, I know somebody in the springing to be better.
But right now, somebody, somebody's got too many zukinis. They
need to give you a copy and oranges. And but
but that's the nature that we need to move into.
We need to remember those that aspect the point.
Speaker 11 (51:40):
The point being first of all, that your joy can
never ever, ever, ever ever no other person, good person,
bad person, wonderful person, a person who agnores you, a
person who hates you. Your joy has to start inside
of you. And the most beautiful thing that every last
(52:04):
one of us has is the ability to make a
joyful noise, even if we don't feel like it's.
Speaker 6 (52:16):
I have several No, not a record producer.
Speaker 11 (52:20):
No, not a record producer, because before I ever knew
what a producer was, I was a singer and what
and before I knew I had.
Speaker 6 (52:28):
A voice, I sang. We teach babies to sing. We babies.
Speaker 11 (52:34):
Babies come out making noises that have harmonies and sounds.
And I say that to say we were created with
a voice. And when things in the world are happening
around you, on your job, on the television that make
you feel like you have no voice. The first thing
you need to do is remind yourself that you do.
(52:57):
And that starts with a song. Everybody's got a favorite song.
If you don't have a favorite song, I don't trust you.
Speaker 8 (53:03):
If you don't have a favorite song, I.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
Sing, I have to like your song.
Speaker 11 (53:06):
But if you don't have a favorite song, no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 8 (53:10):
I know what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing.
Speaker 9 (53:13):
I'm just adding on to it that I tell you, guys,
when you're growing up, I said, I'm going to tell
you hold on five minutes, that I am the captain
of the ship.
Speaker 12 (53:22):
Right.
Speaker 11 (53:23):
I tell you, guys, they invited me. I'm a guest,
so you have to you have to refer to the guests.
Sometimes it's a little bit that.
Speaker 8 (53:29):
Now, can you tell that's my dog? What of my saying?
Speaker 11 (53:34):
And this is what's important, and this is why Michael
Jackson captured the hearts of.
Speaker 6 (53:38):
Millions and millions of people all over the world will
look nothing like him.
Speaker 11 (53:42):
The ability to create a song that other people see
themselves in and then are able to sing is what.
Speaker 6 (53:50):
Changes the world.
Speaker 11 (53:52):
So when when we said reach out and touch somebody's hand,
we didn't say reach out and touch some black somebody's
hands is.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
Whatever it could acted for you.
Speaker 11 (54:00):
So what I'm saying is anyone listening to the sound
of my voice right now has.
Speaker 6 (54:05):
The ability to find a song where they see themselves
or hear themselves and sing it back to themselves. You're right,
and that is the beginning.
Speaker 11 (54:14):
And don't worry about whether or not you can write,
don't worry about whether or not you can quote unquote sing.
Speaker 8 (54:20):
And that's and that's said that.
Speaker 9 (54:24):
But you said, please, please, please, People standing around in
the shower could sing a song that nobody ever heard
and nobody else could ever hear.
Speaker 8 (54:34):
Their voice, but makes.
Speaker 6 (54:36):
Them feel better Like that makes them feel better.
Speaker 9 (54:39):
And that's the idea you first said. You said first,
people have to have it inside of themselves first.
Speaker 8 (54:46):
And all I'm saying is.
Speaker 9 (54:47):
Agree with you that you glory in your When you
feel the glory inside you make your cheerful noise. Maybe
somebody else will like it, maybe they won't. Michael Jackson,
probably I made some songs that everybody didn't like. I
was a Jimmy Hendricks fan I would have loved to
hear I mean, he could have put it and I'd
have thought that was a music. But at the same time,
(55:10):
everybody's not like that. Everybody doesn't create that type of charisma.
Speaker 8 (55:17):
What we do to make.
Speaker 9 (55:19):
Ourselves feel better and smile because if it causes a smile,
chances are you can make somebody else smile. I agree
that mainly we have the ability to make ourselves stronger
by looking inside. But once we look inside, that thing
that occurs there has to reflect out. We do affect
(55:44):
other people. I love what you said Mac about sharing
your guard, sharing what grows, what you grow, and when
somebody takes you off you miss you have to remember
I said it when you've got the blues as a
young person, when things are not going right, I say,
(56:04):
write it down because hopefully you'll never go back there again.
Speaker 8 (56:07):
But get the song while you're there.
Speaker 12 (56:09):
That's right, And let me catch one of these last
four minutes, please, And let me say when I share
my garden stuff and what I'm doing here, I'm not
doing it out of kumbaya and loving feelings. I want
I'm trying to encourage and share. I want other black
people to do this. Because listen to me, you may
(56:29):
not have that friend that is depressing you. You may
not have that friend that is messing up things.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
In your life.
Speaker 12 (56:39):
Most of us do, though, And the thing is, you
don't want hunger to touch you in that way. You
don't want hunger to become an issue for you. We
have to get down to business people. We have to
start growing our own food. And I know it sounds
corny or whatever, but hey, it's just as good as
(57:01):
singing a song to yourself. Grow something.
Speaker 9 (57:05):
Mac When they were talking about the price of eggs,
I guess you kind of had to laugh, didn't you.
Speaker 12 (57:10):
Yeah, because I haven't bought eggs in four years. I mean, like,
I have to go to the grocery store and check
what they were talking about.
Speaker 9 (57:21):
I do remember you bringing me some eggs to the
radio session once. That was amazing. Yeah, that's that's what
we need to do. I mean, we all have to
do that. I spread I give out eggs at comedy show.
I give out lemons. I have packed I got a
vacuum sealer. I packed this stuff up. I make my
own beef jerky.
Speaker 12 (57:39):
We dehydrate lemons, we give out fresh limits, we give
out eggs.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
We grow food, we grow vegetables.
Speaker 12 (57:46):
Listen, we all have to start changing the way we
live because guess what the economy is about, crash. You
guys are gonna see some stuff in the next year,
and you're gonna look back at this and say, oh
my gosh, Mac, what do you talking about?
Speaker 9 (58:01):
My goodness? Okay, guys, miss you give us a word
of encouragement. Mac, you got to say. We got about
a minute and a half to do that. Miss me.
Speaker 11 (58:17):
Her words of standing up on a Sunday on a
platform as music played with a microphone in my hand.
I watch people come in from a long week, tired
and wondered what I could possibly give them.
Speaker 6 (58:30):
I'm not a trained minister, I'm not a.
Speaker 11 (58:32):
Speaker, and literally what I would do is I would pray,
and I would hear God say look at them, so
that they know I see them.
Speaker 6 (58:41):
And so I say that to say sound music.
Speaker 11 (58:44):
People who are tired, who don't want to hear another
word about how bad things are because they don't know
what to do about it any way, can take a
song and feel better.
Speaker 6 (58:56):
So fine a song.
Speaker 11 (58:58):
I have playlists of songs I didn't because there have
been times in my life where I've been in too
much pain to articulate what I felt. But thank God,
Tina Marie could, Marvin Gaye could, Kaylanie could, Hell, Harry Styles.
Speaker 6 (59:10):
Could, By Marley could, Yeah, him too.
Speaker 11 (59:14):
But I say that to say right now, in the
midst of this the one beautiful thing about this time
of year is there is so much beautiful music that
is full of.
Speaker 6 (59:24):
Love and encouragement and peace. Let it wash over you
like water.
Speaker 9 (59:28):
Let it wash over your like water. Crazy or are
you back, yes, sir? Words of encouragement.
Speaker 12 (59:36):
My words of encouragement is go out, relax and enjoy
the holidays. Enjoy your family. The best thing about the
holidays is spending time with family. And so right now,
for the next couple of weeks, relax, recuperate and enjoy
your family.
Speaker 8 (59:51):
Very good, Okay, family, Love you, guys, Thank you. Hope
to see it all right.
Speaker 7 (59:55):
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