Transmuting Pain, Embracing Light

EP #334 - Transmuting Pain, Embracing Light - An interview with return guest, Caroline Oceana Ryan

My guest for this episode of Empowering Chats is Caroline Oceana Ryan. She’s a visionary, an author and a channeler.

This is Caroline’s second visit to Empowering Chats this year. Her earlier interview—linked in the show notes below—focused on creating a world that works for everyone. In this episode, we dive a bit deeper into our personal world, exploring how we’re affected by time.

I begin this interview by asking, Why does it feel like everything is falling apart and time is accelerating?

Caroline explains that this acceleration—and the chaos we’re witnessing—is happening because many of us are transmuting.

She shares, “I’m hearing what many are saying: ‘Can’t we just go back to the way things were?’ But when things change, the brain has to learn new ways of doing things. The brain prefers what’s familiar, what feels safe. But the truth is—there’s no going back.”

According to Caroline, the universe is evolving. A wave of light is moving through the cosmos, affecting every planet, every star system—including Earth.

Old pain may resurface as a way to move us to a higher realm. When this happens, she suggests calling the pain forward and noticing what image or information arises. Whatever shows up—whether it's past pain or feelings of neglect—is still within us, still affecting our spirit. This is a form of blockage. But the more we’re able to dialogue with that pain and release it, the more peace we’ll experience.

She also notes that amplifying trauma—whether from this life or a past life—doesn’t mean we have to relive it. But we do need to acknowledge it so we can release it.

Caroline encourages us to focus on the beauty, on the joy. Be outside in nature. Know that many light beings are blanketing the planet. A tremendous amount of light is pouring into the Earth right now.

We are all constantly becoming. Take pleasure in the beauty of the present moment. Remind yourself of the Divine Light that’s enveloping everything. Be kind to yourself.

Caroline says we are here to be joyful and to be our true selves—and I wholeheartedly believe that.

To learn more about Caroline visit: AscensionTimes.com

To access my previous interview with Caroline, from May 2025 visit: EmpoweringChatsWithSusanBurrell.podbean.com/Caroline-Oceana-Ryan

To learn more about me and how I show up in the world visit: SusanBurrell.com