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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello, downfoted, good to Meadows sports fans, Welcome on it.
It's the Down in Dirty with Scott Mitchell here on
ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM. So proud to
be here. Of course, we're proud to be a part
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Fun show today, lots of we're gonna do a few
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little different things, so we're gonna just make it fun
day today. There are some fun things going on. There's
some crazy things going on. Of course. Uh, the NBA Finals,
it must be. It must be the comeback finals for
for both of these NHL and NBA, because there was
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a comeback between the Edmonton Oilers and of course the
Indiana Pacers came back. Wow, and uh, a very improbable finish.
Tyrese Haliburton. He must be like, man, I don't know
what mister comeback, mister comeback, captain comeback. Oh, I like that.
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Captain come back. Yeah, it's used though we can't we
can't do that. Maybe it's uh, I don't know, Tyrese
money Burton, he's money in the clutch. Clutch Burton, tyres Clutchburton.
I like that. It's it's uh what they did, like people,
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it's very improbable, Like you usually one a team is
ahead like that, especially in that situation is actually at home.
You know, they usually close out games like that and
hit the team. The Pacers hit some tough shots and
then quite frankly, okay, SOE missed some clutch shots. I
mean they hit shots down the stretch. We're not having
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this conversation today. Tyreese Halliburton. I think he's what for
four for four in these clutch situations, and the rest
of the NBA in the same situation in the playoffs
is three for sixty, So he's far far out pacing
the league in clutch game tying winning shots in the
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playoffs like like this, this could be a career for
most players to be in this situation. For whatever reason,
he just he's just he's clutch right now. He's Clutch Halliburton,
That's who he is. Pretty amazing. Okay, I gotta I
gotta mention something. So what I'm gonna do in his
first segment, But I'll tell you what I'm gonna do,
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and I'm gonna tell you something that just caught my attention.
But what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna actually, just
because we're having fun, uh, we're gonna talk amongst ourselves.
So when I have a guest on sometimes what I
like to do is run them through the gauntlet of truth.
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It's a series of questions that they ask that they
have to tell the truth to. And they're they're somewhat unusual,
some somewhat personal. They're not incriminating or you know, it's
not gonna get arrested, not gonna sleep on the couch
for it, I don't think anyways, So I might. I
might do that this morning. But before we do, oh shoot,
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I forgot his name already. What was the offensive lineman
who threw it? Was at the Saint Louis Cardinals game.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, so it's former NFL Tennessee Titan offensive lineman Taylor,
the one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Taylor, the one. He's throwing the first pitch in baseball
game and he looks like new Nuclear Rouche from Bull Durham.
If you ever did you see that movie? I have?
Oh you have? You know, you know, you know who
Nuke is. He couldn't hit the broadside of the barn. Uh.
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You know they have a shot where he throws the
ball and hits the hits the team mascot. And that's
about what uh this first pitch was, which reminds me
I actually threw out a first pitch in the baseball game,
a major league baseball game. Really, Yes, I did. Cincinnati
or Detroit? Uh? Neither, Miami nope, Baltimore nope. Chicago No.
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So I'm gonna take take you out of your misery
and tell you I was playing in the World League
nineteen ninety two in Montreal, Canada, really, and there was
a Cubs Chicago Cubs your Cubs are you're you're a
white Sox fan. I'm a White Sox fan because you're
from South Side? Is that right? Yes, you're discussing?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm from the South side. But
you went to an exposed Cubs game. Huh in Montreal?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Cool? When they had a team in Montreal? Did they
have one? Now, no they do not. They got rid
of them, Yes they did. In fact, we played the
World Bowl. So I was there for the World Bowl,
the World So we went to the championship game. We're
playing in Montreal and uh there and we were there
the whole week. And so there was a game and
they said, hey, we we would like you and the
other quarterback from the opposing team to go throw out
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the first pitch in uh in the u of the game.
And I was like, cool, this is awesome. So I
I uh, you know, they walk us through everything. They said,
now you can go out on the mound. You both
throw a pitch and then and then you come off
the field. So we go out throw it. Throw them.
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They eat it, Ricky, I throw them. You know. It
was a catchuple ball. It was a little bit more
nervous then I thought it would be because I did
play baseball, as you know, so, but when you're used
to a football, the baseball feels like it's weightless. And uh.
David Archer, who was a quarterback for the other team,
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we throw out the pitch. There were like two kids
in cans store. So we have these balls. They give
them to us and and I was like, do you
think I could get Ryan Sandberg to sign my ball?
Because you know, he played for the Cubs at the time,
and you know, he's pretty pretty freaking good player. And
they go, yeah, sure, just go over the dugout and
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ask him. So we're at home plate. We run over
to the Cub stuck out and uh and we get
this autograph and then they're like, come on, you gotta
you gotta come over here. And so we we go
over to the to the Expos dugout because that's how
we came into the game. And they're like trying to
get us off the field because they're trying to start
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the game and we're delaying the start of the game.
We won't leave the field. So then they just start
the national anthem, and you know how, they have all
the players standing out there. So we stand out there
with all the players doing the national anthem, and I'm
standing next to Gary Carter, you know. Yeah, So so
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Gary goes, hey, could you give me one of those
World League footballs? He goes, I want to get a
World League football is absolutely and he goes, I'll give
you a bat for it. I got just give it
to you. No, I'll give you a bat. So Gary
Carter gave me his bat. Wow, So Gary Carter bat
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and gave up a football and stood there for the
national anthem. That's cool. When I threw out the first
pitch for a baseball game, it was actually kind of fun,
cool experience.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I would have freaked out standing next to a World
Series champion home run hit or that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I know, it's like, no, still tell you the first baseline,
just hand over my heart. I'm trying to think if
they did the Canadian national anthem, they would have had
they would have if you were there. I like the
Canadian national anthem kind of do is that? That's it? Right? Yes,
just making sure that I had the right anthem. Anyways,
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that was a lot of fun. All right, let's let's
do this. We're going to run me through the gauntlet
of truth, right, let's do so. I'm going to ask
a series of questions and I have to tell the truth.
And you have a good BS meter, right, Martines, So
you need to determine if my answer is truthful or not.
We'll wait till the very end, and you give me
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a score, an average score like from zero to one
hundred percent on the BS meter. Was I telling the truth?
Answering these questions in the Gauntlet of Truth? Okay? Uh okay,
Oh gosh, there's so much I want to talk about today,
but I don't know if we'll get through it. All. Right,
here's the first question. You're driving the along the road
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and it's a rural road, nobody's around, and you find
a garbage bag and it's just kind of almost in
the road and looks like it has something, and it
causes you to stop, and you look in the bag
and there's a million dollars in cash. What do you do?
No one's around, no one's going to know if you
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take the money. It's untraceable, so no one can come
back to you. Do you keep the money? Do you
leave it there? Do you turn it in? What do
you do now? I've asked this question to hundreds of people,
and I want to say maybe two, maybe two of
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one hundred said they'd keep the money. The rest of
them said, no, bad karma, it's not yours, and I
wouldn't keep it. Now, if I ask him the same question,
what if you had a twenty dollar bill on the ground,
would you keep that? And I don't you know, I'm
gonna ask him that now. So everyone says, for a
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million dollars they would turn it in. I wouldn't. I'll
keep the money. It's cash. One no one knows and everyone,
everyone who answers the question always says, well, you know,
it's bad karma. And it's like I would go get
a boat. I would go have fun with it. And
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you know who cares about the karma? Like like a
million dollars in cash is like you'd have to earn
two million dollars the consequence the road later. Fine, I'll
deal with the consequences. And I'm so shocked by people
because and I'm gonna do this it from now on.
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It's like, all right, fine, if you if you want, uh,
what if it's twenty dollars, would you take twenty dollars
and just put it in your pocket? One hundred percent
of people would come on anyway. So I am going
out on a bold prediction or statement here. I guess
this makes me a terrible individual, But I just I
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think I'd keep the money. I think i'd keep the money.
If I knew the circumstance, like I knew, Hey, you're
not you know this, You're not gonna get in trouble
for this. Some drug lord is not going to come
back and get you. Okay, biggest your biggest regret in life.
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Oh boy, this is always a tough question for people,
like it's it's uh, I'm gonna get back to that one. Okay,
how about the one I just typed. Oh, I'll get
to that. We might do that in its own segment,
unless you want. If you want to get to it
right now, we can do that. Yeah, let's get to
the heart of it. Okay, So Martin, here me this question.
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Why did you really choose Utah over b White. Well
the answer is kind of simple, but getting to the
answer is it's an interesting story. When I was recruited
in high school, I remember it was the it was
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about this time, my junior year, so I just kind
of finished my junior year of high school in May
Ish and I got I got a letter from UCLA. Wow,
and Terry donnahue was their coach, and they were good
back then. And it was the first recruiting letter I
got from anybody my very first recruiting letter UCLA. Cool.
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And I read this letter and I'm like, they were
selling me on Ucla. They said an average year round
temperature of seventy eight degrees and you can, of course
be in the lovely you know, go to the beach
every day. Yeah, they sold the place. Southern California, the
history of long traditional history, play in the Pac ten,
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go to the Rose Bowl. We play in the Rose
Bowl every week, you know, all this stuff. And I'm like,
sign me up, like really, I'm ready to go, Like please,
can I go here? Anyways, So that kind of started
the recruiting process for me, the very different process than today.
You're basically recruited through your senior year of football and
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then and then you'd take all your trips to the
schools and they have visits in your home. Like in
December they have visits in your home, and January you
take trips and February you go where are you going
to school? So I started getting letters from a lot
of schools. I got them from Nebraska, I got them
from Colorado pretty much well every school in the state
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of Utah, Stanford, and I wished I had been a
little bit more proactive, like I wish I'd have gone
to more plays, like I wish i'd have gone and
gone to the University of Miami's football camp when I
was in high school Jami Johnson, right, you know. And
I didn't really think about it at the time. It's
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like just just giving myself a lot more exposure than
I had. It would have been it would have been
challenging financially, not a lot of money, and you know,
just time, you know, when when would you be able
to do it? But I should have should have done it.
That that's one thing, just to see it, you know,
just to kind of experience it now. See now I
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tell every player, I believe every player who lives in
Utah should stay here. And it's probably it's super selfish
of me because at eighteen, nineteen years old, I get
recruited and I go on a recruiting trip to Stanford
really and I'm like, well, this is where I want
to go. Like it was, it was just beautiful, beautiful
campus Stanford Education. Actually I could play two sports when
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I went there. They had the inversion, which was a
lot worse when I was growing up in Utah. Fly
to San Francisco. It's seventy six degrees. I go to
a baseball game and I'm on campus and I'm just like,
this is this incredible. Cheryl Miller was playing basketball at
the time for USC They played Stanford. I went and
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watched the game. Cool. We went into downtown San Francisco. Oh,
very nice. And I'm not sure we were supposed to
do that. It might have been too far to go,
like there's a limit, but whatever. Yeah, and I wanted
to see the Golden gate Bridge. Had never seen the
Golden gate Bridge. So I want to say, one o'clock
in the morning, we went for a walk out on
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the Golden gate Bridge. Oh that's cool. And all of
us had to go to the bathroom, so we kind
of created a little waterfall effect off the Golden State
Bridge at one o'clock in the morning. And that was
That was my recruiting and I was Jack Elway was
the head coach, and I'm sitting in Jack Elway's office
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and and like, this is the dad of John Elway, right, Yeah,
so he's you know, he's kind of famous in and
of himself. And there's a there's an earthquake while I'm
in his office. Oh crap. So but before that. So
that's my trip to Stanford. But before that, Lavelle Edwards
comes to my house with Norm Chow December one, nineteen
eighty if I've never forget it, and I haven't forgot
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it my whole life. And he says, you know, Scott,
you're my number one recruit. It's the first day I
can be in a recruits home. You're the first recruit
I visited. We want you. You'll be an All American here,
we'll win the conference, you'll go to a bowl game,
You'll you'll be in the running for the Heisman Trophy.
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That's good marketing right there. All of those things are
very true, and he could say them with a straight
face because he because they were true. They were very true.
And when he does this, and I've grown up, Lavell,
I'm related to yep. And of course we've had Gifford
Nielsen on our show, and Gifford took me to football camps,
and you know, he's kind of started the tradition at BUYU,
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Gary Poles at baseball, the whole thing. So I'm just like,
I'm going to b YU. I mean, it wasn't even
a question. And then and then after that, visit from Lavell.
Then I went on my recruiting trip to Stanford and
I got I was like, well, I want to go
to Stanford. And I felt like this dog that was,
you know, distracted by the shiny object they saw that
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was in front of him. And that's how frenetic the
whole recruiting process is, because every every school I talked to,
every place I visited, it's like, well, I want to
go here. Yeah. And then I got offered a trip
to Hawaii Rainbow Warriors and the coach goes, now, I
need you to be honest with you. Are you really
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serious about coming to Hawaii, because we it's an expense
to us, like and we we only want kids that
are very serious about coming to Hawaii, uh to visit.
And all I had to say was yes, that's it.
Just say yes, and uh, you know, because and I
could have basically gotten a free, you know, long weekend
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to Hawaii. I can't lie about that, So I said no.
I Uh, that might be my biggest regret in life.
That's my biggest regret is saying no to a recruiting
trip to Hawaii. I really wished, I really wished I
could have so Uh. What happened was was what happened
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was the after I went on my trip to Stanford,
I was like, Okay, I think this is where I
want to go. And you know, I continue through the
recruiting process. People are contacting me every day I'm taking visits.
It's just almost unbearable. It's just a great thing. So
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the Friday before the signing day national letter of Intent day,
the coach from Stanford who had recruited me, said, hey,
we're going to take this kid from California and we're
not gonna We're not going to assign you big time.
So now I'm like, well, I thought that's where I
wanted to go. I mean, originally I want to go
to b YU. Now I'm not sure. You know, you know,
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Utah really liked their offense, I liked their coaches, felt like,
you know, they were up and coming at the time.
So I just said, I don't know what to do.
So it's Monday night, I'm like, I need to make
a decision by Wednesday, and I just go in my room.
I start to pray, and I'm praying in my room.
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The phone rings and I pick up the phone, or
I didn't pick up the phone my mom did. We
only had one phone. It was upstairs, and I'm in
the middle of my prayer. My mom yells down to me, Hey,
this coach Fossil on the phone. He wants to talk
to you. And as I'm with my eyes closed, thinking
I don't want to talk to him, trying to get
an answer to my prayer, Well, I'll talk to him enough,
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trying to talk to God first, Yeah, you know, come on. Anyways,
I reluctantly took the phone call and he just, you know,
he just started in on the same jibber jabber, and
I'm just not listening to any of it because I'd
heard all of it like ten times. And I finally
go about halfway through the call have this experience that's
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like it's happened to me a few times in my life,
but not very often. And I just had this overwhelming
sense of calm and peace that was like tangible, almost
like someone was there. And it was the first time
I just felt that in the entire process of being recruited,
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and I knew that that was the answer to my prayer.
This is where I should go to school. I knew it,
like it was so strong, it was so powerful, it
was so undeniable, and that's why I went to Utah.
Now you think about it, and it's like BYU is everything.
I'm LDS, I'm a quarterback, I'm related to the coach.
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I have these deep ties to you know, some of
the all time greats there. I'm a baseball player as well,
and had a great relationship with the baseball coach. There's
no real and Utah was not very good and BYU
was extremely good. And there was no logical reason whatsoever
in the world that I should go sorry to Utah
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for BYU. But I knew it, and I had a
lot of people that just ridiculed me, said, is dumbest
thing you've ever done in your life? What are you doing?
And it turned out to be a really good It
was the best thing for me, and I have no question,
no doubt about it whatsoever. But it was a hard
choice and uh, and really for me, that's what happened.
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So uh, people are like, wait a minute, you're you're
l e S and you pray about it and yeah,
and it's like, yeah, and it really happened. So and
for me, I don't have any animosity. I'm not one
of these hat b y U unless it's the football game. Well, no,
I I cheer for my team. I'm a ute, I
am a Utah man, and uh but I'm not hates.
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Hates a bad thing. Yeah, you don't. Like you can
have a you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Can have a small like rivalry grudge. You're gonna have
like one of those like moments of course.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, all right, well let's uh, let's take a break
when we come back. Finally, Aaron Rodgers has decided what.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
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Speaker 2 (23:16):
Hello sports fans, welcome back. It is Down at Dirty
with Scott Mitchell here on ESPN seven hundred, ninety two
to one FM UTEL is number one sports talk. Thanks
for being a part of our show. Of course, we're
having fun. Today is a fun day, just like every day.
It's a fun day if you're if you're stealer Nation,
maybe maybe not, I don't know. That's the problem. We
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don't know. Normally we would be like, Yay, this is
an awesome move, but we're like, maybe it's not Aaron Rodgers.
The Aaron Rodgers. You know, Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP.
Yeah he is. That's a lot of times very exclusive club.
That is a lot of times. He will be a
Hall of Famer. Whenever he decides to end five years
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after the end of his career, he will be a
Hall of Famer. I guarantee it. The question is can
he play like a Hall of Famer here for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Signs a one year deal to play for
the Steelers. I'm gonna show up today apparently get ready
for the mini camp, and then he says, I'm not
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I'll see you. I'll see a training camp. That's such
an Aaron Rodgers thing to do, right, It's just like
I think Aaron Rodgers, I think he I think he's
doing that right. He says, Okay, I'll sign with you,
but I'm not going to spend very much time. I
want to spend as little time as I can in Pittsburgh.
For some reason, like I just I just can't. Aaron
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Rodgers doesn't seem like a Pittsburgh guy. Aaron Rodgers, of course,
is a very free spirited went to COL. I mean,
there's about about as free spirited as you get in
at COL. And and I I just can't see them,
you know, I don't know. And and I hope, I
hope he does well, but it just seems like he goes, Look,
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I was all in at the Jets, you know, I
showed up. I went to I went to Broadway with
was Zach Wilson, Like I was trying to be a
good team. I was trying to be all this stuff,
be around, hanging around the guys, do all this stuff,
be all these things, and what to get me? Got
me a blown out Achilles. And so I think Aaron
Rodgers says, I'll come to your mandatory mini camp and
then I'm going in the cave and I'm gonna put
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mud all over my face in the dark, and I'll
see a training camp. That that's really what I think
he's I think he said I got out of my
comfort zone in being kind of a little bit a
little bit wacky, Like I was too nice, I was
too approachable. I was too and look what it got
has got a guy fired. It got people sitting there saying, uh,
(25:54):
you know, Aaron Rodgers washed up. I don't think Aaron
Rodgers has washed up. I really don't. I don't think
he's washed up. I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think he can actually do well in Pittsburgh. I
really do. I think I think he's been going. I
think I'll bet he had a verbal commitment to Pittsburgh
for some time because they didn't really do anything. Like
they didn't They didn't do anything in the draft, they
didn't do anything in free agency, didn't really go after anyone.
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They went after Aaron Rodgers. I think they got him.
And he said, look, I just need some time. I
promise you that I'm going to be there. Because these coaches,
these organizations, I've had these phone calls, they said, hey,
well will you come back to Cincinnati. Dick Lebo said
that to me, I want you to come back here,
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and if you don't, then we're going to draft a quarterback.
So I just want to know. And so I went
back and they didn't draft one. So so so they're aware.
They're aware of Aaron Rodgers and you know his plans.
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So here's here's the thing. Here's why I like this.
I really do like this. The the challenge I think
you have when you're Aaron Rodgers is now you've kind
of become a story. You know, Shador Sanders is a
story without the talent, and and Aaron Rodgers is the
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story just because I think he makes it a bigger story,
which which is which is why why I don't understand
why he does, because he knows how this all works.
So the more he hems and hawes, the more he
kind of not really sure about what he's doing, the
more he kind of you know, goes and finds himself.
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And and I have no album with his methods. I
really don't. It's kind of fun to just make light
of it joke, because that's what you do, like if
you're if you're on an NFL, because players probably come
up to him and say, hey, you got any mud?
You got any of that mud somewhere? You got the
name of the like, you know, I kind of like
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to go in a cave in the dark for a while.
And I understand the method, I really do. Everyone has
their method, Everyone has their way to get their mind right,
because that that's that's all. That's all professional sports this
is is having your mind in the right spot. You
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look at this NBA Finals and you've got okay, see
I'm sure they thought and they had, oh we got
this in the back, and the paces go, well, you know, no,
you don't, and and and if you don't have the
right mindset, and you look at Tyree Alibert, I mean,
this is a guy who looks like he's having the
time of his life. Like he really looks like a
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guy who has not a care in the world. And
he's like, yeah, give me the bal at the end
of the game because I'm gonna make the shot. And
that's all in his head. And so I can appreciate
Aaron Rodgers getting his mind right for an NFL season,
and probably his mind right for all of the attention
and scrutiny that he's going to go under, like like
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he's everything with him is going to be under a
really serious microscope, and it's like can he still play?
Can he? You know? Is he? You know? Where is
his you know where is he right now? You know? Oh,
every interception, if he gets off to a slow start,
it's you know, everything's just going to be dramatically over evaluated.
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And we're and we're going to be right in the
middle of that. By the way, we'll be doing all
of that evaluation. Did you have a comment.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
All I was gonna say was that he's going into
his twenty fi first season. He had an achilles injury,
and the only time we ever saw him legitimately at
anything with the Jets was in the training camp videos
for Hard Knocks. That was the only time we ever
saw him legitimately with the with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Trying to get ready. Like, I don't, I don't know Scott.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I I guess his Swan song style of not trying
to do the Brett Fire trifecta is going to Pittsburgh
and see if he can revive them.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, we we kind of had our take on the
Steelers in our analysis. We've been doing analysis, paralysis by analysis,
that's what we do. And and and I think with
or without Aaron Rodgers, we were I don't know. I think,
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I I think I liked I think I like the Steelers.
You did buy them bottom, fine, I'll still buy him.
I don't. I do not have a problem with Pittsburgh Steelers.
I do. I do get your point, and I really
understand the whole I like to call it the football
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gods where because they take away things and they give
them and eventually they're going to take them away. You
just you can't fool mother nature forever. Mother nature will
get you. And by that, I mean you're just gonna
get injured. You're you're just there's a shelf life to
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a football player. You get old, you just can't continue
to do it forever. A lot of players can do
it for a long time, and quarterback is definitely that position.
But there's a lot of uh, you know, opportunity uh
to to fail. Uh. Pittsburgh's got a lot going on.
I would say, very similar to the Jets. Good defense,
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they do have some pieces offensively, they've got some holes.
Welcome to the NFL. So I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna patient.
Let's just say if see I don't, I don't. I
don't think it's gonna be. I gotta chip on my
shoulder and I really want to come back and I
want to prove everything to the world. Because Aaron Rodgers
kind of always had a chip on his shoulder. I don't,
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I don't. I don't think that's the issue with Aaron Rodgers.
I think if he's healthy, he'll play well. I just
think it's can he stay healthy. I mean that that's
really really the biggest, the biggest question mark. And and
I don't know, I'm not I'm not convinced that. But
is kind of weird demeanor, does not. It just clashes,
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It clashes with with the kind of the way the
Pittsburgh Steelers are, like, like the Steelers are a team,
Like it's an organization and nobody is above the organization
and and and and it's just not how they roll.
And so he just doesn't fit the mold of a
type of like like a lot of players for the
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steel are like, we don't care what you do, buddy, Yeah,
show up or not, we don't care. We're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You want to be a part of us, great, come
and join us. If not, you know, we don't have
time for the games.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
On top of it, he was with Robert Salo, who
tried to run with an iron fist up in New York.
He's gonna be dealing with a bigger iron fist with
Mike Tomlin. I mean, he runs the entire team. Forget
who the GM is, forget who the owners are. They
make sure the bills are paid. But Rooney, I'm not Rooney.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Mike Tomlin runs that team, and Aaron Rodgers is going
to try to go in there and go, hey, listen,
I could do whatever I want. I'll show up on Tuesday,
see you later. Tom was gonna ring his neck real quick.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Ouch. Ouch, that sounds painful. Well. I was thinking about
this the other day with with Aaron Rodgers and from
the Pittsburgh Steelers perspective, it's a one year deal, right,
so they know this isn't a long term shot. They
kind of feel like we can win now. We really
need the quarterback position to play at a pretty respectable level.
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We feel like if we do that, we're good defensively,
we match up with the teams in our conference, our division, Well,
we got a shot. I really think they go, look,
they ask themselves a question, if you had a chance
to get Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP, certainly a Hall
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of Famer, do you do you go for it? And
I think the answer is yes in the short term,
like like, of all the options that are available and
really were available in free agency, did you take a
crack at it? And they go, look, we've got it.
We've we've got a team, We've made some moves. We've
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got you know, DK Metcalf here, We've we've got some
we've got some talent in the building. Uh, it's the
best shot we have and actually making something happen. That
that's the thing I think. So I think it was
the right It was the right move because they went
the other route. They went to kind of Russell Wilson
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route a year ago, trying to see you know, maybe
uh maybe justin fields maybe he you know, And and
I think they learned that's not that's not the answer.
We don't need reclamation projects. We don't need kind of
mid tier guys. We need we need to we need
a guy that can move the needle. Now, if he
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plays and he plays well, he'll move the needle. And
and it's like, I think it's a worth of shot
to them. And then and then if it isn't or
if it is, it doesn't matter either way, because they're
going to be in the market for a quarterback. Yep.
Maybe they're maybe they're signing Aaron Rodgers because they know
he's going to be horrible. Then they can put all
the blame on well, he's horrible, and he was kind
of the only option we had and maybe they tank
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and then they get they get someone in an extra draft,
like a lot of people think it's going to be
Arch Manning Arch just Manning to the Pittsburgh Steelers. How
about that one.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Last question on that kind of a wrapped as does
that go also, cucause I was thinking about it as
you were talking about it. When teams fail on the
fact that they can't draft a quarterback finding any free
agent quarterback to save their team for a year before
they draw up a new plan on it, is that
just basically what teams do these days, Well, you have
to have a quarterback because they drafted Kenny Pickett, then
it didn't work out. Then they go get Russell Wilson,
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then they go get Justin Fields, and now they bring
back Mason Rudolph and now they got Anon Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They've had four to one year veteran.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Quarterbacks to replace the quarterback they thought would be a
four or five six year, seven year quarterback for them.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, Terry Bradshaw said he really liked Kenny Pickett and
didn't understand why they didn't have more patience with him.
And the Steelers are typically a patient team they really are,
but maybe they just said they go, look we like him,
we don't love it. And until we really love a
guy like like a Ben Roethlisberger or you know some
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of the guys they've had that have been longtime solutions
for the Steelers, then well we'll just he's taking shots
with with these other guys and hopefully they pan out.
I mean, Russell Wilson back in a day. It's been
it's been a bit. It was a pretty dark football player.
Somewhere along the way, though, Russell Wilson got weird. He
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did like, I don't know what. Speaking of Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson actually uh decided that he wants to mentor
the entire New York Giant football team. I'm in the
big Apple. I'm going big. It's not you know, it's
not like I'm gonna mentor the quarterbacks. Of course I will.
I'll just I'll do the whole you know what, I'll
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do the whole city of New York. I'll mentor all
of you. It's like Oprah Winfrey. Everyone gets the car.
You get mentored, you get mentored. Oh you even get mentored.
I would not be surprised if Jackson Dart is not
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starting after I don't know, five seven games into the season,
I would not be surprised by that. I I think, uh,
if Russell will Russell Wilson goes to Sean Payton, Sean Payton, like,
that's a quarterback's dream to go to a coach like that.
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It's a dream. And why why you would never want
want to do that is beyond me. Like how you
can't succeed, I'm sorry, is beyond me. And then you
go to the Steelers, and the Steelers are about one
of the most steady, productive, successful organizations in professional sports,
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and and and it's like, hmm, I just don't I
don't see Russell Wilson. I still don't see why Russell
Wilson is considered a viable option. The point is is,
there aren't a lot of viable options, so it's, uh,
it's the best, the best that you can come up with.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, you do need a guy, right, you really do.
But I just I think his days of mentoring the
entire team probably are over. I'm the dry daily edition.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
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Speaker 2 (39:34):
Hey, of course, fans, welcome back. It is it down
and dirty here with Scott Mitchell, ESPN seven hundred and
ninety two one FM. So glad you could join the show.
A lot of fun today, a lot of fun, a
lot of fun every day. So we're gonna do something
that's really fun here. We're gonna do a little buy
and sell. We're going through the whole entire NFL. And
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right now I think we're on the NFC least. Now
that's the East. It's not the least anymore. Well, some
teams are the least. Actually yeah, well no, it's kind
of good and bad. All right. Let's start out with
the New York Giants. New York Giants, buy and sell
five point five wins Martin, what do you have on
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the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I'm gonna buy that they're gonna be a six win team.
They're just gonna get slightly over this five and a half. Listen,
Russell Wilson, Justin, I mean, Jameis Winston, Jackson, Dart that's
not a very good from a quarterback situation. Two veterans
are gonna be out at the end of the season.
You're possibly trying to get a new quarterback ready after
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both of them leave. Who knows if Dart's gonna start
a game this year or not. The Giants have a
decent defense there, Scott. I mean they have Brian Burns
up front. They just drafted that dual carter. They're trying
to get Kevan Thibodeau some more time to develop.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
They're not that bad.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Upfront, they're decent, but offensively, besides my leak neighbors, they
have nothing else. There's no running back, there's no tight end,
there's no offensive line. They're a mess offensively, Brian Dable
and Brian showing. I don't know how they go from
creating the best Buffalo Bills team they've seen since the
nineties and hand it over to Sean McDonough I mean
Sean over there, and then they come over to New
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York and they just tear everything down.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
There's nothing there to grow anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
So I'm gonna buy them only slightly on six wins,
but they will be the bottom feeders of this division.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh I might have to agree with you there, I'm
definitely I'm so you're buying him, You're buying the bottom feeder.
I'm buying the bottom feeders. I'm going to sell the
bottom feeder. I actually think that, yes, they may be
better defensively, I'm just gonna go basically off of Sheikwan Barkley.
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That's just what I'm good like. Anyone who does that,
anyone who pays Daniel Jones twice and then gets rid
of him. Uh Like, no, Now, I know the NFL
is trendy and all of this stuff, but can't you
figure out how to get something out of the talent
of Saquon Barkley. They made a choice. They made a
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choice to go with Daniel Jones. I don't like it,
and I don't really even like the quarterbacks they picked.
I'm intrigued by Jackson Dart, but he's not ready. This
is a team. I've said this. I think by seven games,
Jackson Dart will be playing and it'll be tough, like
he's gonna get a baptism by fire in New York
and I'd be surprised the coach and ended up the season.
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How about that? All right? That was kind of cruel,
But that's my take, not to be cruel. I'm just
being kind of honest, not kind of definitely, all right,
are you buying or selling the Dallas Cowboys at seven
and a half wins?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm gonna buy the Cowboys. Defensively, they're better off obviously
with Parsons. The question are they going to pay him
or not is still up there. But they have Digs.
They have Parsons to have a defense. They're solid there offensively,
Rush said running back. They're trying to rely on one
year veteran guys or rookies guys to fill in that spot.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
But there's no denying Scott that they have one of
the best wide receiver duos in the league. When you
have Ceedee Lamb, when you have George Pickens, and even
with an old version of Tyle excuse me, t Y Hilton,
even that they have solid pieces up front there.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
They rebuilt their offensive line.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
They have the Tyler brothers, Booker and the other two
guys they drafted the back to back heres, and they
have Dak Prescott if he's healthy. This is a ten
win team, bar none, but the Cowboys questions come when
the playoffs come around, and we all know they can't
answer that bell. But on a regular season since seven
and a half, I think that's a big low for
the Cowboys. I'm buying that they will be better than
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seven and a half wins. I just don't buy them
as a legit playoff team.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
The hard thing I have is with Dak Prescott. I
just don't see Dak Prescott getting better than he has been. Uh.
He's He's certainly had a lot of opportunity to do that.
I believe they did. Did they get a new coach,
Yeah they did. They got rid of Mike McCarthy. Yeah,
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they have Scheinheim. That's right, Brian Shay oh here. Sometimes
when you get a new head coach, it kind of
it's it's like a It's like a dog that's gonna die,
like for whatever reason, right before it dies, it just
has a burst. It has this burst of just energy.
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And that's kind of what happens a lot of times
with a new a new football coach. There's just a
burst of energy for a moment, uh, and then it
kind of goes back to kind of where it was before.
I think you kind of see that is that enough
of a burst to get to seven and a half wins,
and and then and then what happens with the coach
either unless you're Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer was dead on arrival.
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Like he didn't make it too Like that's crazy what
happened to Urban Miner. But anyways, so is there a burst?
Is there enough of Dak Prescott? You have a good
point about the regular season in the playoffs? Uh, you know,
I'm gonna sell the Cowboys. I just I just think
I think they have to go more than just kind
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of some parts. I know they've they've kind of married
themselves to to Dak Prescott. I'm not I'm not convinced
that he's an upper level elite guy in the NFL.
He's at a he's at a good level. He's but
he's just not He's not Daniel Jones level. He's above that,
but he's not. It's not Josh Allen. Okay, why don't
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we go with the old Washington Commanders? Nine and a
half wins? I am going to sell.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
And the reason why I'm gonna sell is if you
looked at their results from last year, Scott, they had
six one score wins go in their favor last season.
That's you know that, That's always something that teams rely
on is how well are you in one scoring games?
How are you down the road in those two minute situations?
They had way too many of them last year. Everybody's
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got tape on Daniels. There's nothing that he's gonna hide
this year that the teams haven't seen. And you know, listen,
dan Quinn's a very solid coast. Defensively, they're fun, they're exciting,
but offensively they got lucky last year. Or lucky win
over the Bears, a lucky went over the Cowboys, a
lucky win over the Eagles. So I can't buy Jalen
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Daniels that easily. Last year was just a lucky fun ride.
I'm selling them. I think they're no better than third
in this division. I like, I said, the Cowboys to me,
the second best team in this division. I'm selling the Commanders. Well, well, well, well, huh.
You know what, Martin, You're getting good at this, you
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really are.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm not. I'm being very serious about this. You bring
up some really good points. It's like you do your
homework or something. I don't know, it's just I like it.
Or well, there was the one point about the Chicago Bears.
I heard the fan in you in that where you
said they got lucky against the Bears. I heard the fan,
I heard you. You know, the analyst was not in that.
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That was personal. Let's just say my room that result.
I wonder if maybe this whole thing is a personal thing.
Washington command The question is is Jade Daniels for real?
That's really the question to me. And if he is
for real, this team could have a very serious run.
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And and my pick for a team to kind of
be there was the Washington Commanders. Actually, I'm actually going
to buy the Commanders, and I think they're going to
compete for the division title. Of course, there's only one
team left, and I quite frankly, I don't even want
to talk about that team. But uh, to stay on
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the Commanders for a minute. Uh, you know, you have
a rookie play as well as Jade Daniels did, and
he played very well as a rookie, Like there wasn't
a lot of lows. You got some high you know,
get highs and lows like with a good rookie quarterback.
Peyton Manning does well, but he also throws a bunch
of interceptions. His rookie year. You know, you can you
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can see the guys that are gonna they're gonna be
there and and usually they show up with with lows.
Now r G three kind of showed a spark in
Washington and he fizzled. But he he also was very
much a spread guy, like and it was heavy in
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the run. And Jade Daniels is not a not necessarily
a run guy. He's a guy that's gonna throw the football.
And and that stays like, if you can consistently throw
the football, you're you're gonna you're gonna consistently stay in
the NFL. And what it does with this rookie rookie contract,
it just gives them a whole lot more money to
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go do things and to be a really really competitive
team for the next you know, four or five years.
So I'm big on the Commanders. So I'm buying them
all right. Philadelphi Eagles. Uh fight Eagles Fight? Is that
their thing? Yeah? Fight Eagles. City of brotherly love. My
least favorite place in all of North America. Philadelphia, pennsylvani
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are buying or selling the Eagles at eleven and a half.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know, I'm gonna buy Eagles by and listen, they're
the best team in this division bar none.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
They have the best defense bar none.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
And offensively, until you find a way to stop aj
Brown and Smith and Hurts and this, you know, just
this offense is so unique. They sometimes can throw the
ball sixty yards down the field. Sometimes they can turn
into a twenty twenty five yard passing offense. They run
with Saquon Barkley, a two thousand yard rusher. Like, there's
not a whole lot of cracks in the wall with
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this team that you can find to try to stop them.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm gonna buy them.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
At twelve wins, They're to me gonna be one of
the two teams at the NFC Championship Game. Maybe they
go back and try to repeat the Super Bowl champions
we'll see, that's not that's not That hasn't happened a
lot in the NFL, So we'll see what they can do.
But yeah, I'm buying the Eagles this season. Let's see
what Nick Sirianna can do. If maybe they have a
little bit of a stump, you know, at the beginning
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of the season. But I don't think that's gonna happen
at all. They're just too good at to me to
stop them in their tracks. Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
I'm gonna buy the Eagles simply because I want to
see the Eagles in the Super Bowl against the Buffalo Bills.
And it's the Toush Push Bowl. The two best teams
running the Toush Push in the NFL are the Eagles
and the Buffalo Bills. And there's a little very new
ones to how they do it, but they're they're touch
pushers and uh and and that's what I want to see.
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I would not be surprised to see the Eagles actually
go back and win the Super Bowl. Again. I'm easily
buying the Eagles. I hate to say it, they are
They are a very good team, and I believe they'll
probably be even more dynamic this year. Having that balance
between running and passing makes it really hard to dial
in on, like you just can't stop it. And they
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proved that when sa Quon went off, they won, and
then then when he didn't, they had the ability to
still win when when he didn't have those big rushing
games like in the Super Bowl, so big on the
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Hello, downfoted, good to Meadows sports fans, Welcome on it.
It's the Down in Dirty with Scott Mitchell here on
ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM. So proud to
be here. Of course, we're proud to be a part
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Fun show today, lots of we're gonna do a few
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little different things, so we're gonna just make it fun
day today. There are some fun things going on. There's
some crazy things going on. Of course. Uh, the NBA Finals,
it must be. It must be the comeback finals for
for both of these NHL and NBA, because there was
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a comeback between the Edmonton Oilers and of course the
Indiana Pacers came back. Wow, and uh, a very improbable finish.
Tyrese Haliburton. He must be like, man, I don't know
what mister comeback, mister comeback, captain comeback. Oh, I like that.
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Captain come back. Yeah, it's used though we can't we
can't do that. Maybe it's uh, I don't know, Tyrese
money Burton, he's money in the clutch. Clutch Burton, tyres Clutchburton.
I like that. It's it's uh what they did, like people,
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it's very improbable, Like you usually one a team is
ahead like that, especially in that situation is actually at home.
You know, they usually close out games like that and
hit the team. The Pacers hit some tough shots and
then quite frankly, okay, SOE missed some clutch shots. I
mean they hit shots down the stretch. We're not having
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this conversation today. Tyreese Halliburton. I think he's what for
four for four in these clutch situations, and the rest
of the NBA in the same situation in the playoffs
is three for sixty, So he's far far out pacing
the league in clutch game tying winning shots in the
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playoffs like like this, this could be a career for
most players to be in this situation. For whatever reason,
he just he's just he's clutch right now. He's Clutch Halliburton,
That's who he is. Pretty amazing. Okay, I gotta I
gotta mention something. So what I'm gonna do in his
first segment, But I'll tell you what I'm gonna do,
(02:59):
and I'm gonna tell you something that just caught my attention.
But what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna actually, just
because we're having fun, uh, we're gonna talk amongst ourselves.
So when I have a guest on sometimes what I
like to do is run them through the gauntlet of truth.
(03:19):
It's a series of questions that they ask that they
have to tell the truth to. And they're they're somewhat unusual,
some somewhat personal. They're not incriminating or you know, it's
not gonna get arrested, not gonna sleep on the couch
for it, I don't think anyways, So I might. I
might do that this morning. But before we do, oh shoot,
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I forgot his name already. What was the offensive lineman
who threw it? Was at the Saint Louis Cardinals game.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, so it's former NFL Tennessee Titan offensive lineman Taylor,
the one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Taylor, the one. He's throwing the first pitch in baseball
game and he looks like new Nuclear Rouche from Bull Durham.
If you ever did you see that movie? I have?
Oh you have? You know, you know, you know who
Nuke is. He couldn't hit the broadside of the barn. Uh.
(04:14):
You know they have a shot where he throws the
ball and hits the hits the team mascot. And that's
about what uh this first pitch was, which reminds me
I actually threw out a first pitch in the baseball game,
a major league baseball game. Really, Yes, I did. Cincinnati
or Detroit? Uh? Neither, Miami nope, Baltimore nope. Chicago No.
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So I'm gonna take take you out of your misery
and tell you I was playing in the World League
nineteen ninety two in Montreal, Canada, really, and there was
a Cubs Chicago Cubs your Cubs are you're you're a
white Sox fan. I'm a White Sox fan because you're
from South Side? Is that right? Yes, you're discussing?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm from the South side. But
you went to an exposed Cubs game. Huh in Montreal?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Cool? When they had a team in Montreal? Did they
have one? Now, no they do not. They got rid
of them, Yes they did. In fact, we played the
World Bowl. So I was there for the World Bowl,
the World So we went to the championship game. We're
playing in Montreal and uh there and we were there
the whole week. And so there was a game and
they said, hey, we we would like you and the
other quarterback from the opposing team to go throw out
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the first pitch in uh in the u of the game.
And I was like, cool, this is awesome. So I
I uh, you know, they walk us through everything. They said,
now you can go out on the mound. You both
throw a pitch and then and then you come off
the field. So we go out throw it. Throw them.
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They eat it, Ricky, I throw them. You know. It
was a catchuple ball. It was a little bit more
nervous then I thought it would be because I did
play baseball, as you know, so, but when you're used
to a football, the baseball feels like it's weightless. And uh.
David Archer, who was a quarterback for the other team,
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we throw out the pitch. There were like two kids
in cans store. So we have these balls. They give
them to us and and I was like, do you
think I could get Ryan Sandberg to sign my ball?
Because you know, he played for the Cubs at the time,
and you know, he's pretty pretty freaking good player. And
they go, yeah, sure, just go over the dugout and
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ask him. So we're at home plate. We run over
to the Cub stuck out and uh and we get
this autograph and then they're like, come on, you gotta
you gotta come over here. And so we we go
over to the to the Expos dugout because that's how
we came into the game. And they're like trying to
get us off the field because they're trying to start
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the game and we're delaying the start of the game.
We won't leave the field. So then they just start
the national anthem, and you know how, they have all
the players standing out there. So we stand out there
with all the players doing the national anthem, and I'm
standing next to Gary Carter, you know. Yeah, So so
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Gary goes, hey, could you give me one of those
World League footballs? He goes, I want to get a
World League football is absolutely and he goes, I'll give
you a bat for it. I got just give it
to you. No, I'll give you a bat. So Gary
Carter gave me his bat. Wow, So Gary Carter bat
(07:37):
and gave up a football and stood there for the
national anthem. That's cool. When I threw out the first
pitch for a baseball game, it was actually kind of fun,
cool experience.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I would have freaked out standing next to a World
Series champion home run hit or that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I know, it's like, no, still tell you the first baseline,
just hand over my heart. I'm trying to think if
they did the Canadian national anthem, they would have had
they would have if you were there. I like the
Canadian national anthem kind of do is that? That's it? Right? Yes,
just making sure that I had the right anthem. Anyways,
(08:17):
that was a lot of fun. All right, let's let's
do this. We're going to run me through the gauntlet
of truth, right, let's do so. I'm going to ask
a series of questions and I have to tell the truth.
And you have a good BS meter, right, Martines, So
you need to determine if my answer is truthful or not.
We'll wait till the very end, and you give me
(08:38):
a score, an average score like from zero to one
hundred percent on the BS meter. Was I telling the truth?
Answering these questions in the Gauntlet of Truth? Okay? Uh okay,
Oh gosh, there's so much I want to talk about today,
but I don't know if we'll get through it. All. Right,
here's the first question. You're driving the along the road
(09:02):
and it's a rural road, nobody's around, and you find
a garbage bag and it's just kind of almost in
the road and looks like it has something, and it
causes you to stop, and you look in the bag
and there's a million dollars in cash. What do you do?
No one's around, no one's going to know if you
(09:24):
take the money. It's untraceable, so no one can come
back to you. Do you keep the money? Do you
leave it there? Do you turn it in? What do
you do now? I've asked this question to hundreds of people,
and I want to say maybe two, maybe two of
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one hundred said they'd keep the money. The rest of
them said, no, bad karma, it's not yours, and I
wouldn't keep it. Now, if I ask him the same question,
what if you had a twenty dollar bill on the ground,
would you keep that? And I don't you know, I'm
gonna ask him that now. So everyone says, for a
(10:12):
million dollars they would turn it in. I wouldn't. I'll
keep the money. It's cash. One no one knows and everyone,
everyone who answers the question always says, well, you know,
it's bad karma. And it's like I would go get
a boat. I would go have fun with it. And
(10:34):
you know who cares about the karma? Like like a
million dollars in cash is like you'd have to earn
two million dollars the consequence the road later. Fine, I'll
deal with the consequences. And I'm so shocked by people
because and I'm gonna do this it from now on.
(10:55):
It's like, all right, fine, if you if you want, uh,
what if it's twenty dollars, would you take twenty dollars
and just put it in your pocket? One hundred percent
of people would come on anyway. So I am going
out on a bold prediction or statement here. I guess
this makes me a terrible individual, But I just I
(11:17):
think I'd keep the money. I think i'd keep the money.
If I knew the circumstance, like I knew, Hey, you're
not you know this, You're not gonna get in trouble
for this. Some drug lord is not going to come
back and get you. Okay, biggest your biggest regret in life.
(11:38):
Oh boy, this is always a tough question for people,
like it's it's uh, I'm gonna get back to that one. Okay,
how about the one I just typed. Oh, I'll get
to that. We might do that in its own segment,
unless you want. If you want to get to it
right now, we can do that. Yeah, let's get to
the heart of it. Okay, So Martin, here me this question.
(12:01):
Why did you really choose Utah over b White. Well
the answer is kind of simple, but getting to the
answer is it's an interesting story. When I was recruited
in high school, I remember it was the it was
(12:22):
about this time, my junior year, so I just kind
of finished my junior year of high school in May
Ish and I got I got a letter from UCLA. Wow,
and Terry donnahue was their coach, and they were good
back then. And it was the first recruiting letter I
got from anybody my very first recruiting letter UCLA. Cool.
(12:44):
And I read this letter and I'm like, they were
selling me on Ucla. They said an average year round
temperature of seventy eight degrees and you can, of course
be in the lovely you know, go to the beach
every day. Yeah, they sold the place. Southern California, the
history of long traditional history, play in the Pac ten,
(13:07):
go to the Rose Bowl. We play in the Rose
Bowl every week, you know, all this stuff. And I'm like,
sign me up, like really, I'm ready to go, Like please,
can I go here? Anyways, So that kind of started
the recruiting process for me, the very different process than today.
You're basically recruited through your senior year of football and
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then and then you'd take all your trips to the
schools and they have visits in your home. Like in
December they have visits in your home, and January you
take trips and February you go where are you going
to school? So I started getting letters from a lot
of schools. I got them from Nebraska, I got them
from Colorado pretty much well every school in the state
(13:53):
of Utah, Stanford, and I wished I had been a
little bit more proactive, like I wish I'd have gone
to more plays, like I wish i'd have gone and
gone to the University of Miami's football camp when I
was in high school Jami Johnson, right, you know. And
I didn't really think about it at the time. It's
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like just just giving myself a lot more exposure than
I had. It would have been it would have been
challenging financially, not a lot of money, and you know,
just time, you know, when when would you be able
to do it? But I should have should have done it.
That that's one thing, just to see it, you know,
just to kind of experience it now. See now I
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tell every player, I believe every player who lives in
Utah should stay here. And it's probably it's super selfish
of me because at eighteen, nineteen years old, I get
recruited and I go on a recruiting trip to Stanford
really and I'm like, well, this is where I want
to go. Like it was, it was just beautiful, beautiful
campus Stanford Education. Actually I could play two sports when
(15:00):
I went there. They had the inversion, which was a
lot worse when I was growing up in Utah. Fly
to San Francisco. It's seventy six degrees. I go to
a baseball game and I'm on campus and I'm just like,
this is this incredible. Cheryl Miller was playing basketball at
the time for USC They played Stanford. I went and
(15:23):
watched the game. Cool. We went into downtown San Francisco. Oh,
very nice. And I'm not sure we were supposed to
do that. It might have been too far to go,
like there's a limit, but whatever. Yeah, and I wanted
to see the Golden gate Bridge. Had never seen the
Golden gate Bridge. So I want to say, one o'clock
in the morning, we went for a walk out on
(15:45):
the Golden gate Bridge. Oh that's cool. And all of
us had to go to the bathroom, so we kind
of created a little waterfall effect off the Golden State
Bridge at one o'clock in the morning. And that was
That was my recruiting and I was Jack Elway was
the head coach, and I'm sitting in Jack Elway's office
(16:07):
and and like, this is the dad of John Elway, right, Yeah,
so he's you know, he's kind of famous in and
of himself. And there's a there's an earthquake while I'm
in his office. Oh crap. So but before that. So
that's my trip to Stanford. But before that, Lavelle Edwards
comes to my house with Norm Chow December one, nineteen
eighty if I've never forget it, and I haven't forgot
(16:29):
it my whole life. And he says, you know, Scott,
you're my number one recruit. It's the first day I
can be in a recruits home. You're the first recruit
I visited. We want you. You'll be an All American here,
we'll win the conference, you'll go to a bowl game,
You'll you'll be in the running for the Heisman Trophy.
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That's good marketing right there. All of those things are
very true, and he could say them with a straight
face because he because they were true. They were very true.
And when he does this, and I've grown up, Lavell,
I'm related to yep. And of course we've had Gifford
Nielsen on our show, and Gifford took me to football camps,
and you know, he's kind of started the tradition at BUYU,
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Gary Poles at baseball, the whole thing. So I'm just like,
I'm going to b YU. I mean, it wasn't even
a question. And then and then after that, visit from Lavell.
Then I went on my recruiting trip to Stanford and
I got I was like, well, I want to go
to Stanford. And I felt like this dog that was,
you know, distracted by the shiny object they saw that
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was in front of him. And that's how frenetic the
whole recruiting process is, because every every school I talked to,
every place I visited, it's like, well, I want to
go here. Yeah. And then I got offered a trip
to Hawaii Rainbow Warriors and the coach goes, now, I
need you to be honest with you. Are you really
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serious about coming to Hawaii, because we it's an expense
to us, like and we we only want kids that
are very serious about coming to Hawaii, uh to visit.
And all I had to say was yes, that's it.
Just say yes, and uh, you know, because and I
could have basically gotten a free, you know, long weekend
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to Hawaii. I can't lie about that, So I said no.
I Uh, that might be my biggest regret in life.
That's my biggest regret is saying no to a recruiting
trip to Hawaii. I really wished, I really wished I
could have so Uh. What happened was was what happened
(18:49):
was the after I went on my trip to Stanford,
I was like, Okay, I think this is where I
want to go. And you know, I continue through the
recruiting process. People are contacting me every day I'm taking visits.
It's just almost unbearable. It's just a great thing. So
(19:09):
the Friday before the signing day national letter of Intent day,
the coach from Stanford who had recruited me, said, hey,
we're going to take this kid from California and we're
not gonna We're not going to assign you big time.
So now I'm like, well, I thought that's where I
wanted to go. I mean, originally I want to go
to b YU. Now I'm not sure. You know, you know,
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Utah really liked their offense, I liked their coaches, felt like,
you know, they were up and coming at the time.
So I just said, I don't know what to do.
So it's Monday night, I'm like, I need to make
a decision by Wednesday, and I just go in my room.
I start to pray, and I'm praying in my room.
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The phone rings and I pick up the phone, or
I didn't pick up the phone my mom did. We
only had one phone. It was upstairs, and I'm in
the middle of my prayer. My mom yells down to me, Hey,
this coach Fossil on the phone. He wants to talk
to you. And as I'm with my eyes closed, thinking
I don't want to talk to him, trying to get
an answer to my prayer, Well, I'll talk to him enough,
(20:14):
trying to talk to God first, Yeah, you know, come on. Anyways,
I reluctantly took the phone call and he just, you know,
he just started in on the same jibber jabber, and
I'm just not listening to any of it because I'd
heard all of it like ten times. And I finally
go about halfway through the call have this experience that's
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like it's happened to me a few times in my life,
but not very often. And I just had this overwhelming
sense of calm and peace that was like tangible, almost
like someone was there. And it was the first time
I just felt that in the entire process of being recruited,
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and I knew that that was the answer to my prayer.
This is where I should go to school. I knew it,
like it was so strong, it was so powerful, it
was so undeniable, and that's why I went to Utah.
Now you think about it, and it's like BYU is everything.
I'm LDS, I'm a quarterback, I'm related to the coach.
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I have these deep ties to you know, some of
the all time greats there. I'm a baseball player as well,
and had a great relationship with the baseball coach. There's
no real and Utah was not very good and BYU
was extremely good. And there was no logical reason whatsoever
in the world that I should go sorry to Utah
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for BYU. But I knew it, and I had a
lot of people that just ridiculed me, said, is dumbest
thing you've ever done in your life? What are you doing?
And it turned out to be a really good It
was the best thing for me, and I have no question,
no doubt about it whatsoever. But it was a hard
choice and uh, and really for me, that's what happened.
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So uh, people are like, wait a minute, you're you're
l e S and you pray about it and yeah,
and it's like, yeah, and it really happened. So and
for me, I don't have any animosity. I'm not one
of these hat b y U unless it's the football game. Well, no,
I I cheer for my team. I'm a ute, I
am a Utah man, and uh but I'm not hates.
(22:31):
Hates a bad thing. Yeah, you don't. Like you can
have a you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Can have a small like rivalry grudge. You're gonna have
like one of those like moments of course.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, all right, well let's uh, let's take a break
when we come back. Finally, Aaron Rodgers has decided what.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
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Speaker 2 (23:16):
Hello sports fans, welcome back. It is Down at Dirty
with Scott Mitchell here on ESPN seven hundred, ninety two
to one FM UTEL is number one sports talk. Thanks
for being a part of our show. Of course, we're
having fun. Today is a fun day, just like every day.
It's a fun day if you're if you're stealer Nation,
maybe maybe not, I don't know. That's the problem. We
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don't know. Normally we would be like, Yay, this is
an awesome move, but we're like, maybe it's not Aaron Rodgers.
The Aaron Rodgers. You know, Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP.
Yeah he is. That's a lot of times very exclusive club.
That is a lot of times. He will be a
Hall of Famer. Whenever he decides to end five years
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after the end of his career, he will be a
Hall of Famer. I guarantee it. The question is can
he play like a Hall of Famer here for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Signs a one year deal to play for
the Steelers. I'm gonna show up today apparently get ready
for the mini camp, and then he says, I'm not
(24:23):
I'll see you. I'll see a training camp. That's such
an Aaron Rodgers thing to do, right, It's just like
I think Aaron Rodgers, I think he I think he's
doing that right. He says, Okay, I'll sign with you,
but I'm not going to spend very much time. I
want to spend as little time as I can in Pittsburgh.
For some reason, like I just I just can't. Aaron
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Rodgers doesn't seem like a Pittsburgh guy. Aaron Rodgers, of course,
is a very free spirited went to COL. I mean,
there's about about as free spirited as you get in
at COL. And and I I just can't see them,
you know, I don't know. And and I hope, I
hope he does well, but it just seems like he goes, Look,
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I was all in at the Jets, you know, I
showed up. I went to I went to Broadway with
was Zach Wilson, Like I was trying to be a
good team. I was trying to be all this stuff,
be around, hanging around the guys, do all this stuff,
be all these things, and what to get me? Got
me a blown out Achilles. And so I think Aaron
Rodgers says, I'll come to your mandatory mini camp and
then I'm going in the cave and I'm gonna put
(25:29):
mud all over my face in the dark, and I'll
see a training camp. That that's really what I think
he's I think he said I got out of my
comfort zone in being kind of a little bit a
little bit wacky, Like I was too nice, I was
too approachable. I was too and look what it got
has got a guy fired. It got people sitting there saying, uh,
(25:54):
you know, Aaron Rodgers washed up. I don't think Aaron
Rodgers has washed up. I really don't. I don't think
he's washed up. I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think he can actually do well in Pittsburgh. I
really do. I think I think he's been going. I
think I'll bet he had a verbal commitment to Pittsburgh
for some time because they didn't really do anything. Like
they didn't They didn't do anything in the draft, they
didn't do anything in free agency, didn't really go after anyone.
(26:33):
They went after Aaron Rodgers. I think they got him.
And he said, look, I just need some time. I
promise you that I'm going to be there. Because these coaches,
these organizations, I've had these phone calls, they said, hey,
well will you come back to Cincinnati. Dick Lebo said
that to me, I want you to come back here,
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and if you don't, then we're going to draft a quarterback.
So I just want to know. And so I went
back and they didn't draft one. So so so they're aware.
They're aware of Aaron Rodgers and you know his plans.
(27:15):
So here's here's the thing. Here's why I like this.
I really do like this. The the challenge I think
you have when you're Aaron Rodgers is now you've kind
of become a story. You know, Shador Sanders is a
story without the talent, and and Aaron Rodgers is the
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story just because I think he makes it a bigger story,
which which is which is why why I don't understand
why he does, because he knows how this all works.
So the more he hems and hawes, the more he
kind of not really sure about what he's doing, the
more he kind of you know, goes and finds himself.
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And and I have no album with his methods. I
really don't. It's kind of fun to just make light
of it joke, because that's what you do, like if
you're if you're on an NFL, because players probably come
up to him and say, hey, you got any mud?
You got any of that mud somewhere? You got the
name of the like, you know, I kind of like
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to go in a cave in the dark for a while.
And I understand the method, I really do. Everyone has
their method, Everyone has their way to get their mind right,
because that that's that's all. That's all professional sports this
is is having your mind in the right spot. You
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look at this NBA Finals and you've got okay, see
I'm sure they thought and they had, oh we got
this in the back, and the paces go, well, you know, no,
you don't, and and and if you don't have the
right mindset, and you look at Tyree Alibert, I mean,
this is a guy who looks like he's having the
time of his life. Like he really looks like a
(29:03):
guy who has not a care in the world. And
he's like, yeah, give me the bal at the end
of the game because I'm gonna make the shot. And
that's all in his head. And so I can appreciate
Aaron Rodgers getting his mind right for an NFL season,
and probably his mind right for all of the attention
and scrutiny that he's going to go under, like like
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he's everything with him is going to be under a
really serious microscope, and it's like can he still play?
Can he? You know? Is he? You know? Where is
his you know where is he right now? You know? Oh,
every interception, if he gets off to a slow start,
it's you know, everything's just going to be dramatically over evaluated.
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And we're and we're going to be right in the
middle of that. By the way, we'll be doing all
of that evaluation. Did you have a comment.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
All I was gonna say was that he's going into
his twenty fi first season. He had an achilles injury,
and the only time we ever saw him legitimately at
anything with the Jets was in the training camp videos
for Hard Knocks. That was the only time we ever
saw him legitimately with the with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Trying to get ready. Like, I don't, I don't know Scott.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I I guess his Swan song style of not trying
to do the Brett Fire trifecta is going to Pittsburgh
and see if he can revive them.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, we we kind of had our take on the
Steelers in our analysis. We've been doing analysis, paralysis by analysis,
that's what we do. And and and I think with
or without Aaron Rodgers, we were I don't know. I think,
(30:46):
I I think I liked I think I like the Steelers.
You did buy them bottom, fine, I'll still buy him.
I don't. I do not have a problem with Pittsburgh Steelers.
I do. I do get your point, and I really
understand the whole I like to call it the football
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gods where because they take away things and they give
them and eventually they're going to take them away. You
just you can't fool mother nature forever. Mother nature will
get you. And by that, I mean you're just gonna
get injured. You're you're just there's a shelf life to
(31:31):
a football player. You get old, you just can't continue
to do it forever. A lot of players can do
it for a long time, and quarterback is definitely that position.
But there's a lot of uh, you know, opportunity uh
to to fail. Uh. Pittsburgh's got a lot going on.
I would say, very similar to the Jets. Good defense,
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they do have some pieces offensively, they've got some holes.
Welcome to the NFL. So I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna patient.
Let's just say if see I don't, I don't. I
don't think it's gonna be. I gotta chip on my
shoulder and I really want to come back and I
want to prove everything to the world. Because Aaron Rodgers
kind of always had a chip on his shoulder. I don't,
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I don't. I don't think that's the issue with Aaron Rodgers.
I think if he's healthy, he'll play well. I just
think it's can he stay healthy. I mean that that's
really really the biggest, the biggest question mark. And and
I don't know, I'm not I'm not convinced that. But
is kind of weird demeanor, does not. It just clashes,
(32:38):
It clashes with with the kind of the way the
Pittsburgh Steelers are, like, like the Steelers are a team,
Like it's an organization and nobody is above the organization
and and and and it's just not how they roll.
And so he just doesn't fit the mold of a
type of like like a lot of players for the
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steel are like, we don't care what you do, buddy, Yeah,
show up or not, we don't care. We're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You want to be a part of us, great, come
and join us. If not, you know, we don't have
time for the games.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
On top of it, he was with Robert Salo, who
tried to run with an iron fist up in New York.
He's gonna be dealing with a bigger iron fist with
Mike Tomlin. I mean, he runs the entire team. Forget
who the GM is, forget who the owners are. They
make sure the bills are paid. But Rooney, I'm not Rooney.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Mike Tomlin runs that team, and Aaron Rodgers is going
to try to go in there and go, hey, listen,
I could do whatever I want. I'll show up on Tuesday,
see you later. Tom was gonna ring his neck real quick.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Ouch. Ouch, that sounds painful. Well. I was thinking about
this the other day with with Aaron Rodgers and from
the Pittsburgh Steelers perspective, it's a one year deal, right,
so they know this isn't a long term shot. They
kind of feel like we can win now. We really
need the quarterback position to play at a pretty respectable level.
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We feel like if we do that, we're good defensively,
we match up with the teams in our conference, our division, Well,
we got a shot. I really think they go, look,
they ask themselves a question, if you had a chance
to get Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP, certainly a Hall
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of Famer, do you do you go for it? And
I think the answer is yes in the short term,
like like, of all the options that are available and
really were available in free agency, did you take a
crack at it? And they go, look, we've got it.
We've we've got a team, We've made some moves. We've
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got you know, DK Metcalf here, We've we've got some
we've got some talent in the building. Uh, it's the
best shot we have and actually making something happen. That
that's the thing I think. So I think it was
the right It was the right move because they went
the other route. They went to kind of Russell Wilson
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route a year ago, trying to see you know, maybe
uh maybe justin fields maybe he you know, And and
I think they learned that's not that's not the answer.
We don't need reclamation projects. We don't need kind of
mid tier guys. We need we need to we need
a guy that can move the needle. Now, if he
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plays and he plays well, he'll move the needle. And
and it's like, I think it's a worth of shot
to them. And then and then if it isn't or
if it is, it doesn't matter either way, because they're
going to be in the market for a quarterback. Yep.
Maybe they're maybe they're signing Aaron Rodgers because they know
he's going to be horrible. Then they can put all
the blame on well, he's horrible, and he was kind
of the only option we had and maybe they tank
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and then they get they get someone in an extra draft,
like a lot of people think it's going to be
Arch Manning Arch just Manning to the Pittsburgh Steelers. How
about that one.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Last question on that kind of a wrapped as does
that go also, cucause I was thinking about it as
you were talking about it. When teams fail on the
fact that they can't draft a quarterback finding any free
agent quarterback to save their team for a year before
they draw up a new plan on it, is that
just basically what teams do these days, Well, you have
to have a quarterback because they drafted Kenny Pickett, then
it didn't work out. Then they go get Russell Wilson,
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then they go get Justin Fields, and now they bring
back Mason Rudolph and now they got Anon Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They've had four to one year veteran.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Quarterbacks to replace the quarterback they thought would be a
four or five six year, seven year quarterback for them.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, Terry Bradshaw said he really liked Kenny Pickett and
didn't understand why they didn't have more patience with him.
And the Steelers are typically a patient team they really are,
but maybe they just said they go, look we like him,
we don't love it. And until we really love a
guy like like a Ben Roethlisberger or you know some
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of the guys they've had that have been longtime solutions
for the Steelers, then well we'll just he's taking shots
with with these other guys and hopefully they pan out.
I mean, Russell Wilson back in a day. It's been
it's been a bit. It was a pretty dark football player.
Somewhere along the way, though, Russell Wilson got weird. He
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did like, I don't know what. Speaking of Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson actually uh decided that he wants to mentor
the entire New York Giant football team. I'm in the
big Apple. I'm going big. It's not you know, it's
not like I'm gonna mentor the quarterbacks. Of course I will.
I'll just I'll do the whole you know what, I'll
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do the whole city of New York. I'll mentor all
of you. It's like Oprah Winfrey. Everyone gets the car.
You get mentored, you get mentored. Oh you even get mentored.
I would not be surprised if Jackson Dart is not
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starting after I don't know, five seven games into the season,
I would not be surprised by that. I I think, uh,
if Russell will Russell Wilson goes to Sean Payton, Sean Payton, like,
that's a quarterback's dream to go to a coach like that.
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It's a dream. And why why you would never want
want to do that is beyond me. Like how you
can't succeed, I'm sorry, is beyond me. And then you
go to the Steelers, and the Steelers are about one
of the most steady, productive, successful organizations in professional sports,
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and and and it's like, hmm, I just don't I
don't see Russell Wilson. I still don't see why Russell
Wilson is considered a viable option. The point is is,
there aren't a lot of viable options, so it's, uh,
it's the best, the best that you can come up with.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, you do need a guy, right, you really do.
But I just I think his days of mentoring the
entire team probably are over. I'm the dry daily edition.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
You can get in podcast for at ESPN, seven hundred,
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This is not Down and Dirty with Scott Mitchell on
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Speaker 2 (39:34):
Hey, of course, fans, welcome back. It is it down
and dirty here with Scott Mitchell, ESPN seven hundred and
ninety two one FM. So glad you could join the show.
A lot of fun today, a lot of fun, a
lot of fun every day. So we're gonna do something
that's really fun here. We're gonna do a little buy
and sell. We're going through the whole entire NFL. And
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right now I think we're on the NFC least. Now
that's the East. It's not the least anymore. Well, some
teams are the least. Actually yeah, well no, it's kind
of good and bad. All right. Let's start out with
the New York Giants. New York Giants, buy and sell
five point five wins Martin, what do you have on
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the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I'm gonna buy that they're gonna be a six win team.
They're just gonna get slightly over this five and a half. Listen,
Russell Wilson, Justin, I mean, Jameis Winston, Jackson, Dart that's
not a very good from a quarterback situation. Two veterans
are gonna be out at the end of the season.
You're possibly trying to get a new quarterback ready after
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both of them leave. Who knows if Dart's gonna start
a game this year or not. The Giants have a
decent defense there, Scott. I mean they have Brian Burns
up front. They just drafted that dual carter. They're trying
to get Kevan Thibodeau some more time to develop.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
They're not that bad.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Upfront, they're decent, but offensively, besides my leak neighbors, they
have nothing else. There's no running back, there's no tight end,
there's no offensive line. They're a mess offensively, Brian Dable
and Brian showing. I don't know how they go from
creating the best Buffalo Bills team they've seen since the
nineties and hand it over to Sean McDonough I mean
Sean over there, and then they come over to New
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York and they just tear everything down.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
There's nothing there to grow anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
So I'm gonna buy them only slightly on six wins,
but they will be the bottom feeders of this division.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh I might have to agree with you there, I'm
definitely I'm so you're buying him, You're buying the bottom feeder.
I'm buying the bottom feeders. I'm going to sell the
bottom feeder. I actually think that, yes, they may be
better defensively, I'm just gonna go basically off of Sheikwan Barkley.
(41:47):
That's just what I'm good like. Anyone who does that,
anyone who pays Daniel Jones twice and then gets rid
of him. Uh Like, no, Now, I know the NFL
is trendy and all of this stuff, but can't you
figure out how to get something out of the talent
of Saquon Barkley. They made a choice. They made a
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choice to go with Daniel Jones. I don't like it,
and I don't really even like the quarterbacks they picked.
I'm intrigued by Jackson Dart, but he's not ready. This
is a team. I've said this. I think by seven games,
Jackson Dart will be playing and it'll be tough, like
he's gonna get a baptism by fire in New York
and I'd be surprised the coach and ended up the season.
(42:29):
How about that? All right? That was kind of cruel,
But that's my take, not to be cruel. I'm just
being kind of honest, not kind of definitely, all right,
are you buying or selling the Dallas Cowboys at seven
and a half wins?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm gonna buy the Cowboys. Defensively, they're better off obviously
with Parsons. The question are they going to pay him
or not is still up there. But they have Digs.
They have Parsons to have a defense. They're solid there offensively,
Rush said running back. They're trying to rely on one
year veteran guys or rookies guys to fill in that spot.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
But there's no denying Scott that they have one of
the best wide receiver duos in the league. When you
have Ceedee Lamb, when you have George Pickens, and even
with an old version of Tyle excuse me, t Y Hilton,
even that they have solid pieces up front there.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
They rebuilt their offensive line.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
They have the Tyler brothers, Booker and the other two
guys they drafted the back to back heres, and they
have Dak Prescott if he's healthy. This is a ten
win team, bar none, but the Cowboys questions come when
the playoffs come around, and we all know they can't
answer that bell. But on a regular season since seven
and a half, I think that's a big low for
the Cowboys. I'm buying that they will be better than
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seven and a half wins. I just don't buy them
as a legit playoff team.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
The hard thing I have is with Dak Prescott. I
just don't see Dak Prescott getting better than he has been. Uh.
He's He's certainly had a lot of opportunity to do that.
I believe they did. Did they get a new coach,
Yeah they did. They got rid of Mike McCarthy. Yeah,
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they have Scheinheim. That's right, Brian Shay oh here. Sometimes
when you get a new head coach, it kind of
it's it's like a It's like a dog that's gonna die,
like for whatever reason, right before it dies, it just
has a burst. It has this burst of just energy.
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And that's kind of what happens a lot of times
with a new a new football coach. There's just a
burst of energy for a moment, uh, and then it
kind of goes back to kind of where it was before.
I think you kind of see that is that enough
of a burst to get to seven and a half wins,
and and then and then what happens with the coach
either unless you're Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer was dead on arrival.
(44:58):
Like he didn't make it too Like that's crazy what
happened to Urban Miner. But anyways, so is there a burst?
Is there enough of Dak Prescott? You have a good
point about the regular season in the playoffs? Uh, you know,
I'm gonna sell the Cowboys. I just I just think
I think they have to go more than just kind
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of some parts. I know they've they've kind of married
themselves to to Dak Prescott. I'm not I'm not convinced
that he's an upper level elite guy in the NFL.
He's at a he's at a good level. He's but
he's just not He's not Daniel Jones level. He's above that,
but he's not. It's not Josh Allen. Okay, why don't
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we go with the old Washington Commanders? Nine and a
half wins? I am going to sell.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
And the reason why I'm gonna sell is if you
looked at their results from last year, Scott, they had
six one score wins go in their favor last season.
That's you know that, That's always something that teams rely
on is how well are you in one scoring games?
How are you down the road in those two minute situations?
They had way too many of them last year. Everybody's
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got tape on Daniels. There's nothing that he's gonna hide
this year that the teams haven't seen. And you know, listen,
dan Quinn's a very solid coast. Defensively, they're fun, they're exciting,
but offensively they got lucky last year. Or lucky win
over the Bears, a lucky went over the Cowboys, a
lucky win over the Eagles. So I can't buy Jalen
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Daniels that easily. Last year was just a lucky fun ride.
I'm selling them. I think they're no better than third
in this division. I like, I said, the Cowboys to me,
the second best team in this division. I'm selling the Commanders. Well, well, well, well, huh.
You know what, Martin, You're getting good at this, you
(46:59):
really are.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm not. I'm being very serious about this. You bring
up some really good points. It's like you do your
homework or something. I don't know, it's just I like it.
Or well, there was the one point about the Chicago Bears.
I heard the fan in you in that where you
said they got lucky against the Bears. I heard the fan,
I heard you. You know, the analyst was not in that.
(47:21):
That was personal. Let's just say my room that result.
I wonder if maybe this whole thing is a personal thing.
Washington command The question is is Jade Daniels for real?
That's really the question to me. And if he is
for real, this team could have a very serious run.
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And and my pick for a team to kind of
be there was the Washington Commanders. Actually, I'm actually going
to buy the Commanders, and I think they're going to
compete for the division title. Of course, there's only one
team left, and I quite frankly, I don't even want
to talk about that team. But uh, to stay on
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the Commanders for a minute. Uh, you know, you have
a rookie play as well as Jade Daniels did, and
he played very well as a rookie, Like there wasn't
a lot of lows. You got some high you know,
get highs and lows like with a good rookie quarterback.
Peyton Manning does well, but he also throws a bunch
of interceptions. His rookie year. You know, you can you
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can see the guys that are gonna they're gonna be
there and and usually they show up with with lows.
Now r G three kind of showed a spark in
Washington and he fizzled. But he he also was very
much a spread guy, like and it was heavy in
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the run. And Jade Daniels is not a not necessarily
a run guy. He's a guy that's gonna throw the football.
And and that stays like, if you can consistently throw
the football, you're you're gonna you're gonna consistently stay in
the NFL. And what it does with this rookie rookie contract,
it just gives them a whole lot more money to
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go do things and to be a really really competitive
team for the next you know, four or five years.
So I'm big on the Commanders. So I'm buying them
all right. Philadelphi Eagles. Uh fight Eagles Fight? Is that
their thing? Yeah? Fight Eagles. City of brotherly love. My
least favorite place in all of North America. Philadelphia, pennsylvani
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are buying or selling the Eagles at eleven and a half.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know, I'm gonna buy Eagles by and listen, they're
the best team in this division bar none.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
They have the best defense bar none.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
And offensively, until you find a way to stop aj
Brown and Smith and Hurts and this, you know, just
this offense is so unique. They sometimes can throw the
ball sixty yards down the field. Sometimes they can turn
into a twenty twenty five yard passing offense. They run
with Saquon Barkley, a two thousand yard rusher. Like, there's
not a whole lot of cracks in the wall with
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this team that you can find to try to stop them.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm gonna buy them.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
At twelve wins, They're to me gonna be one of
the two teams at the NFC Championship Game. Maybe they
go back and try to repeat the Super Bowl champions
we'll see, that's not that's not That hasn't happened a
lot in the NFL, So we'll see what they can do.
But yeah, I'm buying the Eagles this season. Let's see
what Nick Sirianna can do. If maybe they have a
little bit of a stump, you know, at the beginning
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of the season. But I don't think that's gonna happen
at all. They're just too good at to me to
stop them in their tracks. Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
I'm gonna buy the Eagles simply because I want to
see the Eagles in the Super Bowl against the Buffalo Bills.
And it's the Toush Push Bowl. The two best teams
running the Toush Push in the NFL are the Eagles
and the Buffalo Bills. And there's a little very new
ones to how they do it, but they're they're touch
pushers and uh and and that's what I want to see.
(50:58):
I would not be surprised to see the Eagles actually
go back and win the Super Bowl. Again. I'm easily
buying the Eagles. I hate to say it, they are
They are a very good team, and I believe they'll
probably be even more dynamic this year. Having that balance
between running and passing makes it really hard to dial
in on, like you just can't stop it. And they
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proved that when sa Quon went off, they won, and
then then when he didn't, they had the ability to
still win when when he didn't have those big rushing
games like in the Super Bowl, so big on the
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