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November 28, 2022 66 mins
Joshua Heston is editor-in-chief of StateoftheOzarks Online Magazine and heads up the platform’s member community where he manages events primarily in Hollister, Missouri.

These events include StateoftheOzarks Fest, Writers Artists Night, the Hollister First Friday Art Walk, and Hollister Farmers Market.

Author of two books and over 400 articles, Heston, an Illinois native, works hard to ensure both preservation as well as celebration of Ozarks culture, past and present.

Heston is a journalist and graphic designer who spends what little free time he has lifting weights and playing with his Basset hound, Skye. He is an ordained deacon and Sunday school director at Smyrna Baptist Church.

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Of course, it's Thursday night atnine o'clock. Wow, I hope you

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had a one week because I thoughtit was Monday at four at least.
I'm in the right right the wrongnight. You know how the horrible that
is, like we do it almostnever. We've had a very exciting week.
Um, Yeah, how's your week? Ben? It's been really nice.

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I've been off for two days.For two days, that is excited.
We got a lot done yesterday thoughyesterday I woke up earliest like motivation.
I don't know, hey got mestarting. I woke up and thought
it was gonna be nice and mowthe yard and killed me all day yesterday.
Let him sleep in but no,I'm low in the yard and here

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he comes there help. Yeah.So, and then clean the house up,
worked on laundry. It's a busyday, busy, busy, needless
to say. Today not so busy, so busy, so totally. Joe
watched TV, watch TV. Wewent to a really cool work part of

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the end day. That was prettycool. That is, meet a lot
of his worker co workers, sothat's pretty cool. It was a good
way to be like, what's up, everybody, how you doing? M
hm. So today we have misterJosh Heston as an editor in chief of

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the State of the Ozarks online magazineand heads up the platform's member community,
where he manages events primarily and Hollister, Missouri. These events include State of
the Ozark's Best Winter's Artist Night,the Hollister First Friday Art Walk, and
Hollister Farmers Market, which is reallyreally awesome. Every one of them I've

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been to, like the festivals,I've been to the Farmer's market, anything
and everything that this man is inthat's absolutely one hundred fabulous. I'm just
saying and is also author of twobooks and over four hundred articles. Heston

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and Eleanoay his native works hard toensure both preserves what in the world preservation
preservation preservation, as well as celebrationof Ozark's culture, past and present.
Heston is a journalist and graphic designerwho spends what low free time he has

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lifting weights and playing with his bassetthound, Sky, which is absolutely adorable.
Like, I just love her death. I haven't even met him but
other than the death and uh alsosigned a school director at Smyrna Baptist Church

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and ordained deacon. See, I'lltell you this man isn't all around pretty
good guy. So you're like everywhereeverywhere you don't have him on your side?
How you better because he's one hellof a guy to have on his
side. So uh well, HelloCarol, Hello Patricia. We are going

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to be speaking with him today.We also have an audience. Okay,
um, they can ask or makecomments, ask questions audience. Ab so,
yeah, if you're not watching this, please do and uh so this

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so much has been kind of busybusy. Oh something's happened today that I
can't really wait on. So mwe have a what'd you doing? What
we have? He like toned me, threw me off. Um, anyways,

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have another show coming on BB threehere soon, probably within the next
couple of weeks, I believe,really close. That's another show that's gonna
be absolutely terrific, like just outof this world. Of course, anything
that I do is out of thisworld. So you gotta watch it.
If you don't have time to watchone of them, just watch them more

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because BB three is the network toactually watch because there's a lot of wonderful
shows, wonderful individuals. They're likefan to me because they are my fam
and uh yeah, you just gotto check it out BB three and that's
all over the place. Yeah,it's a lot like um, they have

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supernatural shows and oh yeah supernatural.Oh Dom and Tom. Now that right
there is enough. I'm just sayingyou goms world, yes, yes,
yes, and talk with dom Ohmy god, don't forget about that.

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Talk with Doma's kick has too.So yeah, definitely check out Doma,
Tom and they're all over the price. I mean, oh, hey,
mama, what's up. He's justnot he said, Oh I thought she
was talking about somebody else. Hi, how are you? And it's actually

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her son, and I was talkingabout mister Donald. So yeah, awesome,
told your awesome people are there.So this week's been kind of busy
up until a couple of days ago. It was busy yesterday, but it
was a good busy. You know. We got a lot of stuff down
around the house, the yard,us a couple of days of like rainy,

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not so good weather. So that'swhen you get videos going out talking
people with this wonderful south phone thatI just don't lack anymore. But you
know, hi, you gotta likeit on those rainy by days. Um.
But swimming a lot the last fewweeks. Oh, I missed my
nephew. He was like down forjust well it was a week. He

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went home this last Sunday and hecomes and spends the week with us through
the summer and out of the weekduring any other time. So we did
a lot of swimming, a lotof playing. Uh what Gran Death Auto?
Is that a lot of us?Mh. I'm not a gamer,
but he made me one. Itwas really cool. You gotta check that

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game out. Um. So yeah, I got a sponsor today come through
and I'm going to be making someT shirts and some other good stuff to
hand out. Well hopefully so moneylove perform. Anyway, we will hand
him out for a certain beautiful process. I mean cheap. I mean,

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come on now, just one hundredand fifty dollars per per per sure know
that's that's pretty cheap. I mean, damn, come on and never guess
too of everybody left, just kidding. I tried to crack me up too.
But anyways, what we got goingon this weekend? Oh again,

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this this weekend, The Kindles areat the start of theater. Oh yeah,
come to the Branson staff. Youhave to seventy six behind out of
garden and I hop um really awesomekicked But like laid Back Theater, uh,
Steve Lee Woods and the Nashville RoadhouseLight Band is there and it's pretty

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much their home. So they haveother short shows throughout the week. This
week we have the Kindles with StevieLee in the Nashville Rokaust Life Band,
the twelf thirte Oh my god,and the Kindles are absolutely phenomenal. Scott
Bay will be coming up. Scott. He has one man show and he's
gonna bring it to Branson Stelle RousLife Theater. I remember him because I

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grew up with Hall on TV.He's still cute. Kind of remember it
now they're really gonna oh goody,still looks like you did before. Yeah,
And we also have karaoke Friday andSaturday night at the Branson Star at
ten o'clock after the show. Theshow starts at eight. From eight until

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ten, halftime is like nine,I say half time like it's football,
baseball, frooseball, whatever it's calledball intermission. I didn't even think about
what I'm glad that you didn't either. And then September eleventh, the contestants

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go head to head from Branson.Yes, karaoke contest winters. We had
a karaoke contest at last two anda half three months and then got down
to very few, and then wewent through those few and ended up to
two. Um, and so they'recoming and they did the same thing and

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pacing forward Tennessee. And so theone from up there there's coming down here
and the two of them are gonnago up against each other to find out
exactly who ends, and whoever doeswin is absolutely gonna be phenomenal because there's
a good chunk of money. There'sa lot of like, yeah, people

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are gonna know you if you don'tif they don't know you now, Um,
but yeah, definitely. And there'salso gonna be a pre show.
I mean, you didn't hear itfrom me, but it's gonna be the
greatest of all shows just because I'mgonna be performing on the stage also,

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so that's gonna be pre show alongwith a couple of other individuals. And
you gotta come and check it out. Um, I'm gonna be singing you're
gonna come and check it out becauseI'm gonna tell you until you do,
come and check it out. Surprise. So how And she'd probably bring mister

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Heston. Oh my god, yeahHeston. I'm sorry. I to bro.
Someone's got used to do this andno further ado. Here is mister
Josh Heston. Hey, hey guys, Sky, Hi Sky, Hi Sky,

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I'm your uncle. You've never metyet. He just got into position
for the show. I think he'sgonna go. I love it. I
love it, good boy. Iwas just waiting to tell you where.
It's about sixty. I know it'sgonna be great. It's gonna be our
middle puppy and our youngest dog setup on the back of the climate like

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cat And the other day someone wasover at the house and our cat lays
on the floor and they're like this, I do not used to see him
that. It used to cats upand I was like, oh, no,
our dogs sleep up there. Thecat sleeps in the floor. Oh
he's uh, he does. Helikes to get close just a little bit.

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Let me, let me, letme do you just love it when
they do that. You wouldn't believeit. But we've actually spent most of
the day together. So yeah,it's like just I know, I know,

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he's he's a good See what itis is it's almost his bedtime.
It is it is. It isguy's bedtime. He's I'm supposed to go
to bed so that he can goto bed. I'm tired now, No
no skies, guy. He hesteals the show though he's took. Can

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tell you're a great host. Yeah, oh thanks for having me on.
Guys, You're welcome, Thanks forcoming on. Absolutely, I've been to
so excited. I've been stoked,you know, from day one, because

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you know how much love I appreciatethat what you guys do is great,
So, you know, thank you. It's good. Good to connect officially
I know right, like we havethat you've never met really we've met before,
like we've never got like me andhim never had You're like you know

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each other, you know, wewe haven't got to hang out yet.
And yes, so this is thisis this is us hanging out. Yeah.
Yeah, basically this is how weget to talk to a lot of
people. Then absolutely best, Oh, we'll see you on this show.

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And then you know you're busy man, You've got all kinds of stuff going
on and getting ready, so Iwant to hit on your bucks. Yes,
yes I have. I have alot of books, but I've only
written two of them. And whatbooks are those? So the first book

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that I authored is called State ofthe Ozarks Essays from the Ozarks Mountain Region.
It is available on Amazon, andit is a selection of of works.
No, it's not. No,it's a selection of works some of

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the most popular articles on State ofthe Ozark as well as some of the
most popular and some of my editor'spick editorials that I've written over the years.
So it's just is in this compilationState of the Ozarks Essays from the
Ozarks Mountain Region. And then thesecond book is a historical dark Americana fantasy

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book fiction titled Plague Child's Doctor.Yeah, I like it. This sounds
very interesting. It's it's dark andspooky, and who doesn't like dark and
spooky. I do it for folksthat you know, are familiar with Scared

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of the Ozarks. I have avery distinctive style, a very homey style
in my writing, and it's alot of fun. It's definitely a big
part of who I am. ButI really into that. In eighteen I
reached a point, I think,both personally and professionally that I wanted to

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branch out a little bit and dosomething that that spoke to other aspects of
my personality and right and my youknow, things that I was interested in.
So I started writing this novel andit's, uh, it is a
deviation from the type of things thatI am normally writing, the type of

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things that folks see in the brandsand globe, the type of things that
that tend to be really nostalgic andsentimental and homey, and this just takes
a hard, hard curve away fromall of that. And it's it's definitely
m a novel for adults and Uand I would say older, older,

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teenagers, and I had a lotof fun with it. I bet,
I bet that sounds really fun.I'm definitely gonna have to check it out.
Yeah, I am too, andwe have another show. I'm not
gonna lie. It was until I'veput your bio that I knew that you
had. I read your articles onState of the Ozarts, and I didn't

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know that you have. Yeah,it's it is. It is for me
certainly is editor in chief of themagazine and then heading up the events.
It's much easier for me to advocatethe things that my people do, that
our community members do. And italways seems really odd for me to be

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jumping up and waving a flag overthe fact that I did something myself.
So I'm really proud of it.But then once I did it, I'm
just kind of like, Okay,it's done. Now I'm gonna work on
the next one. That's very Yeah, there really is. It's I am.
You know, I'm a lifelong writer. I love to write, and

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there was something just very deeply satisfyingabout creating a world that was that was
my own. It was very emotionallycathartic for me, I think for anybody
who's who has or has not,you know, been through major emotional trauma.
We all go through emotional trauma ofvarious types and you know, large

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and small. And there's something incrediblycathartic about about writing about writing through that
process, and it's I think it'sa very spiritual experience. Oh yeah,
absolutely, And that's a good wayto put it. I like that they

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too. I've often thought about Chinawrite something, but then, like when
I was younger, ass like I'mgoing to be a poet, and that
wrote some good poets, was oncein a while. But then it's like,
I'm gonna write the memoirs of mylife, which at that point in
time it was I lived in atown, so there was obviously nothing that

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for me to write and squirrels,flowers and the trees and the birds and
ladies and yeah, but back thenit wasn't true into that, like I'd
go walk into the woods and stuff, but I didn't know how to put
that down on paper. Just geta little bit of dark Rode on paper

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one of these days. So wherecan you find your books again? Right
now on Amazon um under either myname or the titles Plague Chunks, Doctor
or State of the Ozarks Essays fromthe Ozarks Mountain Region and then at at
a number of events, I'm makinga better point to actually keep up and

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order authors copies so I can actuallyhave books. And a number of folks,
including my co producer for Dark GoesOut, Lisa Lisa Martin, gives
me a really hard time or thefact that I keep forgetting to order my
own books. But I'm getting better. I'm getting better. So come let's

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see what's our next event, artWalk First Friday art Walk is going the
first Friday of September. Come onby, I'll have some books awesome,
can't wait, definitely, and theart Welcome First Friday September is where downtown
Hollister, Missouri on historic Downing Streetsand the surrounding environment. And got some

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neat stuff coming up on that awesome. Tell us about it, Yeah,
we got, of course, we'reWe usually run about seven to twelve the
Saint artisans and artists up and downthe street if the event is free and
Downing Street for people who well,you guys, you guys have been to
Downing Street recently. There's a lotof new businesses down there, a lot

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of local folks who are investing inthe community and making some really really neat
stuff and uh yeah, just andit's a gorgeous place. That's where the
festival is going to be. That'swhere most of our you know, it's
where a lot of our stuff is. And it's just it's a it's a
neat environment. His his Hollister hasa lot of history and for folks that

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have it, then it looks likean old English village. Yes, I
mean it, And I love howdoes that because I don't know that's what
made me fall in love with Hollister, was that right there? Oh?
Me too. It's it's an incourse, that's you know, the festival
space. And I could not thinkof a more perfect space. We've got

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the we've got the railroad track,we've got the start depot, We've got
these gorgeous trees on one side ofthe street, and then we had this
whole you know, Merchant Street frontthat is just right there. And of
course to answer the question, yes, it is right across the bridge from
Branson, Missouri. And we're onlyabout two miles too at the most from

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Branson Landing and a lot of peoplehave yet to discover Polister. And I'm
always excited to introduce people to theto the town. Yeah. I mean,
if you ever come to Branson,please people check it out because it's
not really that far from Branson.Like hop, skip in the jump,
you know, you go the landing, you're not even ten five miles from

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oh not even that too months agothe bridging around this morning, yeah yeah,
you could walk there, um yeah, and basically across the across either
of the bridges at the Branson Landing, across Lake Tanny Commo, make a
right and uh, go around thecorner cruster and you're in downtown downtown Hollister,

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Missouri, and Hollister pre dated Branson. The depot was built in nineteen
o nine nineteen ten. Branson wasnot incorporated as a town into nineteen thirteen.
So we were here first. Wow, there you go, Joe,
and see what started Branson. Itreally kind of did. Of course.

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Yeah, Shepherd the Hills really kickedoff the tourist boom. But at the
time that Shepherd the Hills was publishednineteen nineteen o eight. I always say
they say it's nineteen o seven becausethat's when my grandpa was born, But
I think it was nineteen o eightwhen the book was published and creating the
Shepherd of the Hills Country phenomena.When folks wanted to travel for the first

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time down here to you know,go basically be groupies and you know right,
and you know, discovered the fandomof Ozark Mountain country. The easiest
and best way in was by train, but they had not built the depot
at Branson yet, So folks cameto the Hollister depot and uh and got

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off the train and Hollister uh stayedat Killed English in which is still there.
It's also haunted, in case anybodywants to know, Yes, it
is very haunted. And we've hada whole conversation of that night it uh
confirmed. It is. There's alot of ghosts at the Old English end,

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and a lot of a lot ofladies of history. Most the most
dramatic, um pernormal incidences you know, take place on the third floor and
in relationship to the attic. Butthere's there's paranormal reports throughout the entire building,
including on the first floor. Ohoh wow, did they need ghost

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tours there? Yes, I'm gonnabe hosting one. Oh I forgot to
put on my bio. What Ido with dark Ozarts that and I don't
know why I forgot that because Ijust finished a podcast. But I'm co
producer dark Ozarts and we host alot of paranormal related, dark history related

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live events as well as online virtualevents, myself and my co producer Lisa
Martin in Joplin. And she's alongtime paranormal investigator. Of course, I've
been doing historical and folklore research forthree years and years, and so we
joined forces officially publicly in twenty twentyand then took off with that. So

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coming with back to the art walk, I will have the September first Friday
art walk on the October first Fridayart Walk depends on the bathroom the This
is fun. When I do mypodcast, I can't see the comments,
so I'm having a blast with this. But oh, Chanelle, she's always

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there. She's been going through somestuff. She's she's a great person.
Yeah, like a sister. Inever met her in person, we've learned
to pro met her through the podcastingworld. But over two years, man,
yea one of these days will makeit to less constantly. Oh that's
fantastic. You'd be surprised that theactually documentably Um, an enormous number of

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deaths take place in bathrooms, anduh enormous you know, per capita,
an enormous number of hauntings are actuallyassociated with bathrooms. So just something to
remember as you're on the way tothe bathroom in the middle of the night.
I mean, I've always had athing because Bloody Mary. Yeah,
I was totally believer or Bloody Mary, and I to this day. You

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don't like to go into a darkbathroom. We'll look right in the mirror.
So yeah, I think that's veryfair. I saw a meme that
I want to share. Um,I just I need to ask I can
I can? I can cuss alittle bit on this right, Yes,
we had the parental advisory. Yeah, I thought I saw that. I
just wanted to make sure there isa fantastic meme out there, UM that

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says I like to get in mycar and say bloody Mary three times in
the rear view mirror, just tomake that bitch run to keep up.
I like that, but to toum come back. The Hollister First Friday

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Art Walk of October, that isof course sponsored by State of the Gals.
Art will include a walking tour UHas well as a you know,
as a tour of a lot ofthe haunted spaces of downtown Hollister, right,
A great way to kick off theHalloween season and maybe bring that is

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absolutely and I was in Italia mynetwork. That's why you're the salt over
your shoulder as you're leaving the thethreshold. Yeah, but kind of shake
it over. Most of our showson both networks BB three and WLF have
a lot of paranormal shows. Ohthat's cool. I mean a lot and

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ones out of New York and theother ones out of Florida. I believe
it is. And it's a mixture, like it's really cool. Yeahah,
check it out. Chanel's birthdays onHalloween, yahween child. My birthdays just
shortly thereafter. So for me growingup, it was like the best time

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of the year. Yeah. Same. I as soon as I smell the
leaves starting to fall, fall hasa smell and you can sell it the
first crisp morning and I sleep likeno other, like any other day either
out the year. Yeah whatever,but boom once that starts happening, I'm

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like Amy, it's such a magicaltime of the year. It is.
Autumn is definitely my favorite time ofthe year. I honestly like all the
seasons, but autumn is my chimYeah, thank you guys, Sam.
When it's all right, until it'sice. Ice. Ice is not fun,
especially done here in the others.I grew up in uh in central

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Illinois, and we get ice storms, but we had like fleets of trucks
ready to solve them down. Andand and you know, obviously folks try,
but it's not quite the same,not quite the same level a right,
right, and I'm sure it's not. And and roads up there where

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I come from are a lot flatternorth and south, not down there.
When when that stuff happens, I'mlike, y'all have fun. I'm canceling
everything and stay at home until thisis done, right, I swear when
they made the roads around here,somebody was either drunk or really messed up
on something. They were just following. Yeah that too. I've heard they

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made him out of goat trailer.They were following a snake. Mm hmm,
Well it is time for a commercialbreak right back. We have to
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M hm umber boys, bones,umber boss bones, bubble bolls, bones,

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bubble boy, and welcome back toeverything yet nothing. And we are

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speaking with mister Josh Heston and theOzar, State of the oz and the
Ozarks. We all live in theOzarks. We do, well, that's
true, we do are. There'sa lot more to the more of the
Ozarks, and a lot of peoplerealize, oh yeah, a lot more.

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Yeah. I didn't realize that it'sjust as far as it did living
in Oklahoma, and I lived righton that area where the Ozarks end in
Oklahoma. I didn't realize that.I thought I was just in Green Country,
Oklahoma, and it's still in theOzarks. But yeah, it goes
all the way there Oklahoma. Yeah, you know, for people that might

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not be familiar, we're talking.We're talking um basically Tallaqua approximately Talloqua,
Oklahoma, that almost Cape Girardo,Missouri, east and west and the north
and south. We're talking in JeffersonCity, UM to Little Rock. Wow.
Yeah. But I didn't realize allthe way the Little Rock Yeah yeah,

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wow. You know geologically, youknow, as you get into Little
Rock and you drop down into theArkansas River Valley, you're out of the
Ozarks. But as soon as youcome up into that um, you know,
start getting into the raised Upland plateau. You're you're in the Ozarks and
it's such a beautiful drive. Ohmy god, like all over. Yeah.

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So I'm from Kansas, Oklahoma,which is right up by Taller Ball
and I go through Arkansas, Springdaleall those to get to my parents house
and the highway Fourth Fall Drive isjust amazing. Go down. There's this

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one hill that looks like a volcanocould be and it's like the pointiest one
that's got all these little round hillsand then there's one tall, pointing one
and you see it from everywhere andit's like, oh, that's my favorite
hill that And of course the drivehere's home. Every day they just driving
right down. Yeah, we gota bowing and it's just trees and hills

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and yeah, I love it.You always know when you're almost to my
house, our house, because yousee that, you know. But oh
yeah, right, boys are AndI've always said, if I ever take
that for granted and then just likewhatever, then it's time for me to

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move and it's time for me toreevaluate my life. Yeah, because the
beauty of the Ozarks is astounding.Every day they are they are it's I
think it is one of the mostunique and beautiful places in the world.
Yeah, oh yeah, A lotmore people should see it. I agree.

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I agree, especially if they're inthe city or somewheres where it's just
not country line because absolutely, youknow, this is country here all the
way around. You are in thebig town or a little town, you're
still in the country. Those ours. It's uh, it's it's a very
it's a very unique place and alot of stories, a lot of folklore

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of course, gorgeous go to seaall over and it's varied. Um.
You know, we we do get. We do get some crap occasionally for
the fact that our mountains on thattall, but you know, our our
valleys and our hollers are really deep, so it makes up for it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, itreally is. That is I'm trying to

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keep this, peach. I haveone of the minds that they're easily I
have talking about my body. Mybody. So how long have you been

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with the State of the Ozaks?Uh, well, since since there was
such a thing, because I foundedit. But that was sixteen years ago
this month. Nice, congratulations,Are you gonna do a set? Sixteen
birthday what's that. Are you gonnado a sweet sixteen birthday? Yeah,

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it will be on the day ofthe festival. Awesome sweet yeah yeah,
the uh you know, sixteen yearsago, two thousand and seven, I
got everything together. It was anidea, it was a project that I
had started working on, was verypassionate about. Um. The first week

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of September, came down from Illinois, did my first round of interviews,
my first round of photos, wentback home to Illinois, wrote my first
round of articles, put it allonline to the you know, acclaim and
fanfare of me because nobody else knewthat it was online. But it happened
to be September seventeenth, twenty seven. And then fast forward ten years later

(38:23):
when we got approached with you know, doing the festival, and we're in
talks with the city of Hollister andthe merchants did downtown Merchants and looking at
when would be a viable to placeto time and place to do the festival.
It landed almost smacking them on thatanniversary, actually on the tenth anniversary

(38:45):
of of State of the Ozarks.This is our sixth festival downtown and it
just it seemed like like a reallypositive sign that all of that lined up.
So you know, it's it's alittle it's a little weird for me.
Um, you know, having startedState of the Ozark, uh,

(39:07):
sixteen years ago and I don't thinkI've aged I know I have, I
don't, you know, it doesn'tseem like it's been this this lapse of
time. Um, it's a littleit's a little surreal that I've been working
at this for you know, closingin on twenty years down. Wow.
Yeah, but it just flies bythough, like it does, good times,

(39:30):
bad times both, you know.Yeah, and before you know,
it's been sixteen years, you know. Yeah, Yeah, I'm I'm you
know, I need to I needto get my baby a car. Um.
Oh, it's been. It's been. You know. You can measure

(39:52):
it, you know in terms oflike, you know, number of festivals,
number of articles. I've written overfour hundred articles for the magazine,
number of issues for Stavevilsars Weekly,huge plug for stavevilles Ars Weekly. By
the way, it's free, folkscan go to stavevills dot net sign up.
There's no cost to that. Um. But I we've we've published um

(40:16):
every week for over seven hundred andsixty weeks and I have not missed.
I'm really proud of that. Sothat's a you know, that's a large
body of work that, you know, looking back on it, there's there's
been some rough times, there's beensome amazing times, but it's it's hard

(40:37):
to imagine that that much time hasactually elapsed because that I'm still just this
goofy kid that's super excited about doingthis stuff. Nobody knows that, but
well aren't we all? I think, so, you know, it's it's

(40:59):
what's part of the hills of youknow, just living in him. It
is, it is, and Idon't know, I there's I think that
there's a lot that folks do loveabout the Ozarks. I think there's a
lot that that folks um maybe don'tunderstand about the Ozarks. There's certainly some

(41:21):
frustrations of growing up and for alot of people, and you know,
my my goal is to hopefully serveas a bit of a cultural bridge for
for all of that and help,you know, help help for I can
help people understand we do have somethingreally special here. Uh. Can can

(41:44):
things be improved, absolutely, butI think that a lot of times improvement
is best done with with a lotof respect and understanding for the past,
and that actually it smooths the wayand helps helps folks relax a little bit
to know that the next generation isnot going to come in and just change

(42:06):
everything wholesale. Yeah right, Imean there's always good and change, but
you have the shitty change too,and we just need to change it for
the better. You know, nothing, you know, change just for the

(42:27):
sake of change, or change simplyborn out of frustration with the things that
things the way things are is runningrisk and I think that at the same
time, change is inevitable, andwhich have the opportunity to shape what that
change looks like. And a lotof that comes through understanding, through dialogue,

(42:49):
um and uh, and doing somethingI think is really really difficult for
each individual, which is at timesletting our guard down, being vulnerable and
running the risk that we won't beunderstood, but also running the risk of
it we will. Yeah. Yeah, And that's we're trying to open minds

(43:10):
and change. I said, openeyes and change minds. We like change,
you know, but you know,again, there's good change, bad
change. We just this is ourhometown and you know, well we chose
for it to be our hometown.But we chose it because we love it,

(43:34):
you know, and we feel likethis is home. No matter where
we live in the other stars,it's home. And so if nothing else,
we want to improve, like yousaid, and maybe help individuals that
don't understand certain ways of life andcertain things that maybe do need to change
and they don't have that, youknow, guidance and maybe have helped them

(43:59):
guide then down the right path.It I think, you know, taking
those mentorship positions is important. Andwhen you know this, this is this
is difficult for for you know,a variety of people, including myself at
times. But you know, oneof one of the first steps in terms

(44:22):
of being understood is having to putyourself out there and being willing to try
to understand somebody else, right,And that's very true. And uh,
and that's you know, the mymy work. Of course, we've got
the member community with state of thosearts for people who don't know how that

(44:43):
works. Rather than do advertising onthe site, we developed a member community
and then I became an advocate forthose those members that they are the backbone
of the of the platform and certainlythe backbone of what you know, allows
things like the festival and our thewalk a farmer's market to happen. But
to me, there's there's an interestingbenefit because it puts me in contact with

(45:07):
so many very different people and andand tasks me with being their their their
advocate, and it there's times thatwell, for the most part, I
take to that pretty naturally. Ilove people. I love working with people,
finding finding ways that I can betheir advocate and and and support their

(45:32):
endeavors, particularly you know, whetherthat's in business or you know, personally.
But there's been a number of timesthat people come to me and said,
you know, this doesn't make anysense because you have people who in
any other environment really would likely eithernever talk to each other or they re

(45:53):
made each other's throats. And withinthe state of those arts context, they
can collapse great, they can befriends, they can interact in very positive
ways and they're like, how's thathappened? And I really believe that the
majority of people, there's not everybody, but I believe that the majority of

(46:16):
people would love to just be ableto get along with everybody, but they're
waiting for permission to do it rightright. Yeah, And that makes a
lot of sense. There only doesespecially for the Ozarks. Yes, and

(46:36):
you know, and of course youknow, I think that with State of
the Ozarks were able to give thatpermission and then guide the process. But
you know, it's a little it'sa little like you know, realizing that,
you know, the magic is alittle bit inside of us. We
can grant ourselves permission to get alongwith other people. Yeah, yeah,

(47:01):
that's that's what we decide to doby das because it's easier to just live
and like live and get along withpeople than it is too just like them
for some other reasons, you know, some reason or another. And we
can't even hold grudges because we're like, yeah, that's just too taxing.
I gotta remember why I'm out ofthis right, you know, I got

(47:23):
time for other stuff. I don'tgot time for all that. Yeah,
that reminds me of a great ofa great line. Um hope it might
be my bepencer, but it's certainlynot meant to be. And I'm Celtic.
My ancestors Celtics, so I canthink I can get by with it.
Um. Irish Alzheimer's Irish Alzheimer's.The definition of Irish Alzheimer's is that

(47:47):
you forget everything but the grudge.Yeah that sounds about right. That can
happen too, um, but Iknow I love joking about it. But
I I do have probably about fiftypercent Celtic heritage, and I love it

(48:13):
even when other people don't, sothat makes it extra fun. Yeah.
Yes, we like Celtic things,yeah a lot. Yeah, yeah,
but I like Celtic food and involvepotatoes. I like potatoes too much,

(48:34):
and I try to stay away fromhim. That is fair, That is
very fair. I like down thestreet Poorhouse and their potatoes, and it's
not fair that I could almost walkthere from where I live. Right.
Oh, when they're busy, theymake that whole areas delicious. Oh my

(48:58):
gosh. When they fired at theand all of the downtown smells like like
Wigi Burgers, I'm going, thisis nice, this is very nice.
I said. I saw them onthe Vacation Channel a few years ago,
and I saw this like Weisenberger Ithink it was that they had and I
was like, babe, like it. I don't know why we were watching

(49:19):
the Vacation Channel. It was justhappened to be on and I got stuck
in it. It was there andI was just like we have to go
And first time I ever went toDonny State Poorhouse because I had to go.
Yeah, they're they're phenomenal. Ieat there several times a week.
Um, I eat there a numberof times. They will They'll actually make

(49:45):
me stuff that I can eat whenI'm training and it doesn't throw me off
my training diet. And then whenI'm not training, then I go back
and order off the regular menu andlike get stopped. That is phenomenal as
well. Oh cool, that's nice. That's nice to know. Yeah,
yeah, could, I mean,it's one thing I really think. I

(50:09):
mean, I'm I'm definitely team Hollister, Missouri that there's no question about that.
I love a lot of our othertowns as well and supported and advocate
them, but I live in Hollisterand it blows me away. A town
as small as Hollister. We havesome of the best restaurants around. Yeah,
yeah, oh yeah yeah. Andthe Poorhouse is definitely like in my

(50:34):
top oh probably top six restaurants toeat at just anywhere at all. Kitchens
really good and it's been there forever. What's up the Japanese kitchen? Yes,
yes, it has good stuff andgo ahead, oh, I can

(51:00):
say a lot of history down there, a lot, yes, And you
can fellow when you're walking down thestreet too, and you just m every
angle there is. I know,I know, and I don't know if
you guys saw or not, butEmber Cigar Lounds opened up in the old
Christian Science Building. Beautiful old building. They opened up Thursday night. We

(51:22):
have a hard walk on Friday.I don't even smoke, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is cool. That's cool. I didn't know
mm hmm. Yeah, they justopened up down there, so yeah,
cool, We're gonna have to checkthat out. Absolutely. But yeah,

(51:43):
I used to smoke now and thennow I was like, I'm good,
but we am hit on this steady. Theres a festival a little bit,
but we didn't really talk about what'scoming up with it. Yeah yeah,
well, um let's see. Ofcourse you guys have been so you you
have kind of an inside scoop ofwhat's cooking. Um, yeah, I

(52:07):
gotta tell you that stage I'll sharewith the world last year where it stated
the Ozarks Festival and I was supposedto be at work and then they had
some sword fighting and I just Iwas like, I called my job,
and I said, I'm sorry,but I have to be here for this
because if I would have remember it, I would have put that up on
here because I still have it onmy phone. Oh my yeah gallery.

(52:30):
And I was like, whenever hejust said, I was a shit.
But that was freaking oh my god, that rock. I've never in my
life, never in my life everthought that it would even happen in Polish
story. And whenever I happened,I was like, yeah, so it

(52:51):
was funny, funny, funny story. On on this um, of course,
were people who really know me wellknow that I have very eclectic interests
and taste and historical background, etc. And I like putting things together that
wouldn't normally go together and having itwork. And in two thousand and seventeen

(53:16):
was the first festival, and inadvertentlyI sold the idea of the festival as
a craft festival, which, ofcourse, as you guys know, craft
festivals are huge in the Ozars andand I didn't really mean to sell it
to the you know, sort ofthe stakeholders like that, but I did,

(53:38):
based on some brochures that I hadand not mine, but just brochures
about festivals say, hey, we'regoing to do a festival. It's going
to be kind of like this,yeah, yeah, And then I published
this was late in the process,about this time of year, about a
month out, and I published thevendor list, and top of the list

(54:01):
was Feast of the Goblin King andit's it is a cosplay and renaissance group
from Hartville, Missouri, and theyare goblins when they are when they are
character, they are goblins. AndI'm in a I'm in a kind of
high high end meeting with various leaders, community leaders, and they go,

(54:29):
what is Feast of the Goblin King. I'm like, just just work with
me. I think this is ThenI went home and I prayed, oh
my gosh, please make this workerand oh my gosh. But but it

(54:49):
worked out, and Peace of theGoblin King comes every year there there They'll
be there this year. And thenout of that I started developing some relationships
with with various people, including theat that time Baldwin King, who later
became Captain of the Red Boar andthe Red Boar. The Order of the
Red Boar is a fourteenth century medievallive steel fighting group that's a lot of

(55:15):
words to put together for guys whoput on real armor and use real weapons
and walk into a stockade and thenbeat the crap out of each other like
for real, for real, it'syou know, it's it's done under very

(55:37):
specific rules that are actually these groups. There are not very many groups of
this nature in the United States andactually not very many of these groups in
North America, but they are comparativelypopular and comparatively well known in continentally Europe.
And the group was actually founded byan army veteran who was spending a

(55:59):
lot of time based on where hewas stationed at. He was stationed in
Belgium and became involved and then startedthis group here as a chapter in the
United States and in Missouri. Andwe've been very fortunate the last three years
to be able to have the Orderof the Red Boar come down last year
for the first time. They theyassembled their working trebuche. For people who

(56:21):
don't know what a tribuche is,it is a fancy French word for catapult,
and it was used traditional tributches wereused. They were a castle breaker.
They would they would crack open acastle. And our trebuche does work
based on certain regulations that I wouldn'tactually rather ignore, but I can't.
We can't actually fire it at thefestival because I really wanted to like load

(56:45):
it with marshmallows and just help Ohmy god, but you know that's that's
probably not going to happen. However, it will be there, you know,
folks. You can come, youcan talk about it, you can
take pictures, you can get yourphoto taken with it. And then the
great thing is that the live fightstake place several times a day and encourage

(57:07):
people to go to the State DealsOurs Best page on Facebook or go to
State Desarts dot net and bookmark thepage and uh, you know, we'll
publish the actual agenda the schedule forthe evanda as well. That is freaking
awesome. I can't wait. I'malready excited. I know. Right last

(57:27):
year, I don't know what myname was that I was. I was
named one of the trills and Ican't bubble oh shit, bubbles something something
very something. I don't know.Oh, I can't remember, but it

(57:50):
was hilarious. Yeah, the Kingbless me. I got named by the
Goblin didn't shoot. Yes, Yes, that was awesome. As a lot
of a lot of fine arts,A lot of um traditional Ozark's crafts as

(58:13):
well. I didn't. I wasn'tactually lying when I said I was making
a craft festival. I just augmentedit with all this other stuff. Yeah,
because I mean, do you haveartists there? Yeah? Yeah,
yeahs there. But it was morethan one thing, so you know,
it wasn't really focused on just thatone thing. I mean a festival,

(58:35):
it is more than one thing.Last year, the best coffee shopping brands.
He's just a lot of a lotof good worlds and just one place
and then amazing. I appreciate that. I really think that the worlds can
collide in very positive ways. Andyeah, it messes with people's perception,
I think in good ways and Ilove doing that. Yeah, and it

(58:59):
did, Like I yeah, thattotally messed with me. I've never ever
in my life. And I wantto go every year like awesome and the
whole Goblin King. I want togo to where they are and do the
whole like renaissance and uh yeah,I want to. And that's that's just
up in Heartville. They do that, yes that It's not that far away

(59:22):
and they're they're they're planning on beingback this year. I I love it,
So we're gonna have We're gonna havea good time. Oh um.
Working with Josh and the pardon meof the Deck Pizza, I think they're
gonna I think the Deck Pizza wagontruck is gonna have some I'm talking him

(59:44):
into a dessert pizza. That's whatI'm getting at. Nice. Yeah,
I don't know what all is goingto come out of it, but he's
usually they're usually at the Saturday FarmersMarket and I'm like standing in front ordering
pizza, going hey, can wedo this? And I kept throwing things
out, like they have this phenomenalpizza cruss that I actually just ordered on

(01:00:07):
Saturday. I just ordered the pizzacross so I can just eat the crust
and because I'm weird like that,and plus cars and uh and and I'm
like, so, what would happenif you put like a powdered sugar cream
cheese frosting on top of this withcinnamon and uh and then maybe some more

(01:00:31):
sugar on top. And He's like, hmm, this could be really fun.
So we may have like an originaldessert pizza just for the festival.
Hey, yeah, that's gonna goover sweet. I'm gonna order like six
events because between now and then,I'm like not gonna be able to eat

(01:00:51):
sugar, So sugar coma and evenI'll sugar it out. Yes, I
don't know. You guys might havemissed it. Um we had a civil
War surgeon on the street late inthe day. Oh no, I definitely

(01:01:12):
missed it. It was it waslater in the day. Um, Jim
right now or uh does Civil Warreenactment and as a surgeon. And so
he's got all the tools he's gotlike the hack saw and the whole bit,
you know, the the bloody bloodyapron and all that um, and
he's like, I need somebody tobe the patient. So I'm like okay.

(01:01:36):
So they shot me and laid meon a board and I'm laying there
and these little kids that I knoware like walking by, going oh my
gosh, what is wrong with Joshdead? And then they like cut my
Yeah. It's like, so howfar to this dire ready to go?

(01:01:59):
That's what I I was crossing myfingers that the gym was gonna draw a
line somewhere. Unfortunately, dude,I still have both hands. So oh
I love it. I love itwell. It has been great talking to
you. Yes, absolutely, absolutelygreat. And we also have you coming

(01:02:20):
back up on some other shows,yes too. Yeah, looking forward to.
But that's gonna be awesome because that'smore on you than what this was
based on. And I love thatfire because he doesn't need to know you,
but everybody, I appreciate that.Yes, thank you so very much,

(01:02:45):
Josh. I can't wait. It'sgonna be awesome. It's been awesome.
Thank you guys. Ching it backin it. We'll be right,
We'll be right. And there youhad it. Oh MG, I tell
you he was the greatest and he'snot so you know, too bad on

(01:03:06):
the eyes too, you know,you know you need to pull that off
unless you come back for the otherepisodes that we're gonna have him on,
because like I said, that's gonnabe more about Josh than what this was
about. And it's gonna be twoor three part I want to say three,
and it's gonna be freaking awesome.I cannot wait. So much fun

(01:03:30):
and start of the ozarks. Youknow, check that out. Look that
up. It's one individual that youwant on your side, want around you
want to know. I want tobe a part of his life because He
just has that aura and that energyand just the vibe is that I think

(01:03:51):
everybody in the Ozarks and all aroundthe world need around them and in their
life. So definitely look mom anduh yeah for the and the future.
Check him out be I believe ina couple of weeks is when that starts.

(01:04:15):
We'll get back with you on thatthough, Yeah we will. Um
checkout staudio Zarks dot net or checkoutstaudio sucks Facebook. Always check out t
Roy and Ron Shirley on TikTok ort Roy TV. And you can also
find me on t right TV andThe Brunch Hour, The Brunch Hour and

(01:04:39):
t Roy and that is KRBC Thatis the Last, or CAREBC Radio.
And you can also find me heresoon on dB three and my show isn't
there yet, but they all knowme, so you can still be three

(01:05:00):
and they'll be all like, ohI know him, Yeah totally. Um
WAB dot com or radio that's whatthis is. They replaying my shows all
the time. You can also findit on Everything Nothing without the GS on
Facebook page, Spotify, Our HeartRadio, Amazon, Apple, Being Sick

(01:05:24):
podcast, I mean, and anywhereyou get your podcast. Just check out
podcast everything that's every episode from thevery first beginning to the end, and
it's been one heck of a ride, so I want to check it out.
You should so have a good nightpiece and everybody helps somebody else to

(01:05:49):
be a rainbow and be a rainbowyourself, because I think the whole world
only is a whole lot of morecolor of a rainbow thing. Hi,
thank you for joining t Roy ina special guest here on Everything Yet Nothing.
Tune in next Thursday at ten pmEastern, nine pm Central for another
episode you won't want to miss untilnext time. Be a rainbow in someone's

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