Everything's Political Season 4 Episode 13 - A Few Bad Men - Major Fred Galvin

Episode Transcript

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Same as the Okay, based onthe quality of men under his tutelage,
I'm going to assume that Jack BlackPershing was a pretty stand up guy,

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a good and genuine patriot. Andwe've talked on the show before about the
lack of leadership all around. Right, we have incompetency and corruption all around,
and the former enables the latter,unfortunately, and when we have those
two elements that are pervasive, ourcountry is weakened. And I mean,

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I don't think it's even arguable thatwe are in a very precarious position as
a nation right now, not justbecause of things in general, but specifically
because of the state of our militaryand the corruption and seeds of wokeness that
have woven their way into that community. And it's pretty scary because recruitment is

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down, morale is down. Thinkabout it. Are you going to send
your son or daughter to go workfor a forever war general? I don't
know. It's a good discussion tohave, but the onus is not on
us to justify it. The onusis on them to get back to basics.
And another man of quality is withus today to discuss that, and

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he has written a book, aFew Bad Men. It's a take on
the movie A Few Good Men.But folks, this is a fascinating and
true story of an elite team ofMarine special ops and this particular team they
referred to as the Marsak seven,and they were set up by our military

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kind of like Eddie Gallagher, kindof like there was a Marsok three that
followed there was a Haditha eight.We have our military railroading their own people,
either to cover up mistakes or becausethey don't have the moral courage to
speak out about incompetency or corruption,and so things just progress. And when

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there is nothing there in the wayto reveal truth, then it just continues,
right, not truth, but thecorruption and the incompetency. And so
these men went on a mission theMarsok. Will get into what all that
means in the interview. And bythe time they got back to base after

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being bombarded by the Taliban, itwas already all over the news that they
were war criminals. Now imagine that. Imagine giving your life in service to
a brotherhood that stabbed you in theback and you don't even know why.
At first. We'll discuss why withour guest, and so I'm excited to

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dive in here, and I'm gratefulthat he wrote this book and for his
service. He spent twenty seven yearsas an enlisted Marine Corps officer and went
all over combat missions, raids,deeper connaissance ships, she's seizures, etc.
And he is just a man's man. And I first saw him Major

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Fred Galvin on one of the NavySeal podcasts, and I believe he made
the rounds. That's how I cameto know his book A Few Bad Men,
and that's precisely why I got itand read it. And again,
it's a fascinating story and we're excitedto have him here with us, and
he is Major Fred Galvin. Major, thank you so much. It's an

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honor and pleasure to have you withus. Thank you so much for having
me us. Your guest had absolutelyokay. This story is both fascinating and
infuriating. Before we dive into it, would you share with us a little
bit your foray into the military.Sure, we did a family trip to

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the East Coast. I was aboutten years old, and we went to
many of these civil and Revolutionary warbattlefields, and those guides in the US
Park Rangers that were there that describedwhat had happened here. It was,
you know, for a kid fromMeastman, Kansas, I was shocked that

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I cannot actually believe that. Youknow, this is like Valley Forge all
the way to Yorktown and Gettysburg.It was just amazing at the level of
sacrifice, at what happened, andyou know, some of it I saw
similarities in my service later on.But it put a thought in my head

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because it wasn't just the courage,but there was also cowardice. I mean
there was people who in the RevolutionaryWar abandoned not just the post, but
they didn't want any part of it. And you know, they did not
have all the amenities that our modernmilitary has with waterproof clothes. I mean,

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what happened in the winter encampment seventeenseventy seven in Vallet Forge was when
people froze to death and it wasvery miserable, but thank God that they
took that stand and fought and persevered. But that to have put the thought
in my head. And then inhigh school, a gentleman that I went

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to high school with a peer,he said, you know, if you
really want to fight, I didn'tknow because I didn't have a military member
in our family. So he said, if you joined the military and you
want to fight, the Marine Corpsthe branch. This was in nineteen eighty
seven, just prior to the creationof the Special Operations Command. So the
Marine Corps had a motto then calledthe first to Fight. And they really

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were like the elite of the USmilitary. In my mind, they still
are. You know, the Presidentcan send in the Marines. So I
joined the Marines a week after highschool and just really fell in love with
everything about the Marine Corps and itwas just an awesome organization. A lot
of people say, you know,screw the Marines. It's the screw the

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Marine Corps. The Marines that aregreat, and my mind's a little bit
different that it is a great organization, an organization that was founded in a
bar and filled a tavern called TonTavern by the person who would become the
first commandant. He owned a taverna few blocks down. You know,

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he was recruiting people too, byyou know, liquoring them up up to
what was seditioned. They knew theycould be hung or quartered. I mean,
those people took a lot of risksand had they not been inebraated.
But you know, these types ofAmericans wanted freedom, they wanted and they're
willing to die for it, justlike you know, Thomas Jefferson said,

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you know, they're willing to sacrificetheir lives, you know, their freedom
and their sacred honor, their life, they're fortune and their sacred honor.
And that's what before Thomas Jefferson pennedthat in November of seventeen seventy five,
you know, the Marine Corps camealive before our nation did. And they
said, yeah, they fought.And the very first combat action that the

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Marines did was prior to our nationbeing a nation. So they sailed a
ship to get arms. They wentdown to the Bahamas and there was a
British military outpost with ammunition and weapons, and the US Marine landed and moved

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overland to Nassau, Bahamas. Andon the fourth of March seventeen seventy five
or seventeen seventy six, just priorto the declaration of independence, the Marines
raided that British camp, took alltheir weapons, and they got back on
ships and they hit other British shipsall the way back up the East coast,
so and that kind of takes alittle bit, you know. Now

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fast forwarding, the very first combataction was March fourth, seventeen seventy five,
before our nation was created, Andthe main action in the book A
Few Bad Men was on the ambushthat we were attacked by a group of
Taliban Jihatas on March fourth in twothousand and seven. So and our marines

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did not fail our nation or amarine corps. I mean, they stood
up after we were ambushed, mannedmachine guns and violently counterattacked as we were
trained to do and killed enemy.So very proud of what they did in
that book and to actually get thetruth out, because people, why do
you write this book? It's becausethe seven of us were painted as war

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criminals and lived with that black cloudover our head for twelve years. And
it couldn't be further from the truthabout what actually happened and how we were
labeled in the press. Even thoughwe were exonerated in the court, they
didn't use legal terms, so thepress continued to vilify us until twenty nineteen.

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And thank god for these two lawyersin the Pentagon the Department of the
Navy to set the record straight.But nobody in military uniform actually publicly set
the record straight and used definitive legallanguage like innocent or not guilty. But
these women, general counsels, lawyers, they wrote a twelve page exoneration that

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was very explicit. It made mentionednames, use words like this was unjust,
this was immoral, and it reallyset the record strate explicitly. Well,
thank goodness for that. I mean, yeah, and I'm glad that
you when you were telling the storyof the beginning of the Marines, that

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these were men that wanted to befree. Yes, I take the stance
that that's what government's job is tokeep us free. Now, serendipitously,
by extension, the enumerated power ofa military gives us safety too, but
it's to keep us free purpose,yes, free from invasion. And I

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do believe it's a it's an organizationwith great roots, great impetus, obviously
important to our country. But Ido think there are bad actors, and
the more we don't create the virtueand the wisdom, the less we see
it. You know, people arelike, well, why are we seeing

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all this corruption? And we've raisedtwo generations of too many people that think
it's okay to betray their country orto lie and cheat and steal and all
this other stuff. And my onlyanswer is we need to produce more of
what we want to see. Butthat's why it's important that your story gets
out. And I know there areother stories similar to it, and we'll
get to that in a little bit. What was the timing between when you

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joined and the creation of MARSAK Andjust so for our listeners, MARSAK is
Marine Special Operations Command. Correct,Yes, that's correct. I joined in
nineteen eighty seven and nineteen years later. This is kind of interesting fact and
I'm going to roll the clock backa little bit in history. So the
Marine Corps they did a kind ofa trial prior to this in the century

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before, in the twentieth century inWorld War Two. So what you saw
over in Europe, Winston Churchill theyhad the British Real Marines, and Winston
Churchill wanted an elite unit to gobehind German lines and wreak havoc with their
higher headquarters, to take out theircommunication and command and control. So he

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developed an assessment and selection up inScotland and they created not just the Bridge
World Marines, but the Bridge RollMarine commandos that they would during World War
Two very successfully go behind enemy linesand do what I just described. But
that put a seed in the mindof our president at the time, Franklin
delan Or Roosevelt, to also wanta commando unit. They actually wanted to

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call it a commando unit. Andhe was influenced by a gentleman who was
there was an assignment that a marinehad in this at the time of Major
Evans Carlson, who would later goon to command the second Marine Raider Battalion,
put an idea in the President's mind. So this guy was on president

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guard duty and he had Major EvansCarlson had fought over and had protected the
American garrisons in China, and he'dheard about these Chinese rebels that then they
used the term that's still used todayin the Marine Raiders called gung ho.
And it doesn't mean like being motivated. It means translates from Chinese to work

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together. And he said, howdoes these smaller forces, how do you
attack a larger and succeed against thelarger force, And said, well,
we use a phrase called gung ho. It means we are disaggregated, but
we all come together. In unityand harmony and attack and destroy the enemy.
And so Evans Carlson whispered in FranklinDellen or Roosevelt's ear, and they

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wanted to call it the Marine Commandos, but then they call it Marine Raiders.
And they formed in February forty two, right after December seventh, when
they wanted to pay back Roosevelt.You know, God has wished by having
these Marine Raiders. And while Rooseveltwas still the President of the United States,
and these Marine Raiders were fighting inthe South Pacific during the Pacific Campaign,

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a new commandant came in and GeneralBrandervit Vandergrift wrote, with the stroke
of a pen is not in thebest interest in the Marine Corps to have
an elite within an elite, anddisbanded the Marine Raiders. So they didn't
want hand picked forces is another phrasethey actually quoted back then. I said,
I don't want hand picked you know, the Marine Corps. It's an
assault to the ethos of the MarineCorps, which looks at themselves as an

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elite and have somebody better trained.They don't take kindly to that. So
in nineteen eighty seven, not longafter the unfortunate and failed rescue attempt of
fifty two Americans out of Tehran.They saw that, hey, we have
all these different separate military forces andto work together. What happened in Desert

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One when they were trying to rescuethese Americans out of Tehran Iran it was
a failed mission. And so theyhad a committee and they decided, we're
going to combine the all the eliteunits in the United States military, the
Rangers, the Green Brays, theSeals, Marine Force, recon and just
put them under one unit. Andthe Marine Corps said, no, we

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don't want to give up our forcesto work for possibly a seal admiral or
an army general. If we're goingto man, train, and equip these
forces, we're going to keep theman employment for ourselves. So the Marine
Corps in nineteen eighty seven, whenI joined Marine Corps, abstained from the
April nineteen eighty seven creation of theSpecial Operations Command. We didn't send any

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forces whatsoever because the second data pointis the Marine Corps did not want you
this elite with an elite. Wedidn't want to pay for forces that we're
not going to be able to use. So the Marine Corps had an elite
force in the reconnaissance community, butthey did not give them up to the
Special Operations Command. And that ledus to when doctor Rumsfeld was the Secretary

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of Defense for George Bush forty three, right after nine to eleven, Doctor
Rumsfeld gave an order to all themilitary service chiefs, all branch of the
military, said, I want youto increase the capacity of your special operations
forces to combat counter terrorism and theseextremists. He'd also been the Secretary of

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the Defense briefly at the end ofthe Vietnam War. Knew that these elite
forces that were used to conduct counterinsurgencywere very successful in Vietnam. So he
wanted more of these small units togo behind in of the lines and to
do these guerrilla type of operations.And again the Marine Corps is the only
one that said no, thank youto the Secretary of Defense. You know,

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their their boss, their higher headquarters. Many in the Pentagon thought that
Bush forty three would be like hisfather and be a single term president,
and well we know how that happenedto he got re elected. He kept,
at least initially kept Donald Rumsfeld asthe Secretary of Defense, and Rumsfeld
said Marine Corps, you will createan actual component inside the Special Operations Command.

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And that order came in two thousandand five, and that led to
selected me as the very first commandingofficer of a Marine Special Operations Company and
I got the order right after Christmasin two thousand and five. And then
on February twenty fourth, two thousandand six, is when the Marine Special
Operations Command stood up and was activatedand we formed our first company that would

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deploy eleven months later, and wewould go to Afghanistan right at the eastern
border of Afghanistan as it borders Pakistan, and as many of the audience know,
we couldn't go into Pakistan, sothat became a training sanctuary where the
Taliban could radicalize foreign fighters from aroundthe world in safety of US forces not

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being able to go across the border. And we were put on the ground
in Afghanistan right there in the torWar Mountains where Osaman and Latin was last
seen, and our mission was togo into the tor Bora Mountains and hunt
out these rat lines where the ArmySpecial Operations Command sort of knew that there's

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no Taliban in the tour Bar Mountainsanymore, because they got chased out after
we landed in October two thousand andone in Operation Anakana, and then also
the United States taxpayer's dollars built thisthe first paved highway in Afghanistan and that
connected the capitals of Afghanistan and Pakistan. So there's a lot of corruption and

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bribery and there's no need or senseto go over a fourteen thousand foot snow
covered peat when you have a highway, and you usually bribe the border guard,
and that's what was going on,and that leads us to a patrol
that we were on on the fourthof March. We had our advanced echelon

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land in January two thousand and seven. They started collecting a lot of intelligence
and by the time the fourth March, we had very bomb proof intelligence that
there was four suicide bombers in thisvillage right along that border called body Co.
So I want your audience to understandthat just like an Amazon fulfillment center,

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you've got multiple modes and that lastmile of service. So they come
across the border and they link upin this basically like an Amazon fulfillment center,
and this distribution node push it.It's where they link up with their
handlers and then they'll take them tokandaharkabble Bogra, any place to fight Infidel

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and to get their jihat on.We had intel on where these suicide bombers
are, and suicide bombers, aswe know, are very gain because you
know, if they're activating themselves orsomeone else's, you can't really see because
they're just blending into the audience,the crowds, and it creates a lot

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of fear and hesitancy because I mean, they themselves could blow themselves up.
They could be in a van ora vehicle like we experienced, and that
is totally unpredictable, and especially asit happened to us, when there's a
van filled with not just shrapnel andthe vehicles you know shall be being blown
in three three dimensional directions, butfuel that there's just something when you hear

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your fellow soldier marine getting burned aliveputs something into your psyche that you know
creates hesitancy in the future. Sothat's at this time in two thousand and
seven, they were using suicide bombersand as we approached this town. And
I do want to set this backgroundbecause I think it's important to that we've

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been fighting a war or in Afghanistansince two thousand and one in October,
and so by the time we geton the ground in two thousand and seven,
this is almost six years into awar of which you know, now
history shows like what did all thesegenerals do after they got out? Well,
their Treace went become a board memberon KKR. Mattis went to General

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Dynamics, the comment on the MarineCorps during part of this case for a
few bad men. General Dunford whenhe was a commandant, well, he
went on to work at Lockheed Martinand Lloyd Austin or current Secretary of Defense,
he went retired as for Star andwent to work for Raythionse. You're

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able to connect these dots and likeall of a sudden, no general left
behind programs. So they went allto these military industrial complex firms where they're
getting paid, Like General Mattis isgetting paid a million dollars with General Dynamics.
It's big money. So is ittoo strange to fathom why we left
billions of dollars there? When ifyou're working for a General Dynamics or Lockheed

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Martin, that's okay because we'll justpurchase more, or we'll purchase more for
the people in Ukraine. Just likeGeneral Madison also went to work for a
board with Torontos, the failed companywith Elizabeth Holmes that swindled all these investors
out of billions of dollars. Andhe doesn't have a degree in microbiology,
but he has access to the Pentagon. And that's really what it's all about,

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is that's the nation. If youstack the number two number three employers
by headcount, Amazon and Walmart together, you still don't have the sum of
all the active reserves, civilians andcontractors in the Department of Defense. So
this is our nation's largest and mostlethal business or organization, and it's big

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money. So I say that becausethese generals they got in their head you
know, we can win this waror just like Vietnam, we can have
it last forever. And you knowI can't beat them. Join them.
And so General Petraeus, who Isaid, works for KKR, and now
General Mattis who works for General Dynamics. Now they got together and they developed

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in two thousand and six this counterinsurgencystrategy because you know Taya that worked really
well in Vietnam. It's joking it'sfailed trying to win hearts and minds,
especially of Afghans that believe in Shrialaw. They do not believe in central
government. So we know where thiseventually finally led is. Afghans don't want

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a central Will they take our moneyabsolutely, will they fight us absolutely?
So it is kind of a perfectrecipe unless you're one of these frontline foot
soldiers like we were, and you'regoing to hit the ground. And in
two thousand and seven, this counterinsurgencydoctrine that was developed in two thousand and
six, it was implemented in twothousand and seven. They hijacked the part

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of the hippocratic oath that was first, do no harm. This is the
winning hearts and minds. It neverworked. I mean it worked with the
British and Argentina, but a populacehas to want a different lifestyle in Afghanistan.
They don't want any part of theWest. So this was it's never
gonna work. It didn't work.After twenty years, well we saw how

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it ended up. It wasn't successfuland Taliban is right now in control.
And I would say, if you'renot going to be hypocritical, that's the
moral sin of the military is sayone thing, do another. And that's
why I think, honestly, weshould hold people accountable. If you are
a general and you push this failedstrategy like they all did. Every general

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in this book was pushing these foreverwars. This don't fight you see,
like is this real? They didn'twant to have a machine gun on their
turret of their vehicle. Put atire up there. It's kill them with
kindness, love that neighbor. Thatdoesn't work when you have people that I
mean, that's where they planned thewar and they will fight Infidel, you

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know, the Great Satan. That'swhat they believe, with every selling their
body. If you were a leaderand you really believe that, you push
that on US forces and you knewit was going to fail. I think
that. You know, twenty yearsthey kept asking and lying to Congress and
saying, this is working. Weneed more time, we need more money,
keep it going. But send yourbride to bred and Beckfast in Bogram

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and see if that really worked.After twenty years, we put some skin
in the game for you instead ofsitting from the central command like Madis did,
and like now you know, Secretaryof Defense Lloyd Austin. He retired
out of Tampa as the commander ofall US forces in the Middle East.
I mean, if you're giving ordersto have guys go walk through minefields and

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get blown up by these suicide bombersand roadside bombs, you know, send
your family over there right now.Name that is that is one of the
most legitimate contentions that I hear fromveterans is they make the rules of engage,
They try to dictate the narrative ofthe conflict, and yet they're not

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stepping foot on the battlefield. Andso what they're doing is, you know,
want to be liked at cocktail parties. So two thousand and seven,
then, because I remember that major, I remember the shift of we're going
to fight and we're going to winto winning hearts and minds. And you
know this this may not be popularnowadays, but when I think of a

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conflict, or I think of myhusband or my son going to a conflict,
the purpose of the military is tokill bad people and break things.
I want the most toxic masculinity Ican find to go over there and make
sure you know that things work well, so that whole hearts and minds thing

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that made no sense to me whatsoever. And yet that's the narrative that they
switched to. Briefly, did youchoose the seven? Did you have a
part in that? Yes, itdid, so, I wouldn't say just
the seven, but the entire organization. That's exactly what the Marine Corps didn't
want. That. We don't believein hand picked forces, but that very

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first company that I commanded, wehandpicked every member of that so they were
the best of the best. AndI will say that that led to a
lot of internal strife because even inthe Force Freetkun community where everybody came from,
if you weren't on Team USA nineteeneighty men's hockey team, a lot

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of these guys, you know,any kind of organization, whether you're talking
pro football, ice hockey, ballet, I mean, if you were the
one left behind, there was alot of resentment and animosity and and that
started. You know, the MarineCorps and I saw this and you can
you can read and when you readthe book, especially in Appendix three where

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it lists all of the Afghan statementsand how contradictory they are. But the
Marine Corps is very apparent. Theydid not want this Marine special Operations Command.
From the beginning, they didn't wantit to succeed. They didn't plant
any roots, there was no planfor military construction. They wanted to scuttle
this. I was shocked when westood up because there were three Force recoon

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companies in the Marine Corps, onein North Carolina, won in California,
and won an Okinawa, Japan.And on paper we were allowed to have
six platoons, but we'd always usuallyhave five because we didn't want to water
down our standards. So even thoughwe could go fill those platoons, we
didn't until they met a standard.And I say that is because the actual

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number of Force recom marines we hadabout three hundred, and it was the
elites. But when we stood upto the Marine Special Operations Command, this
would grow to twenty six hundred andfifty forces, so it really expanded.
And the reason I say this isasked the operations officer for the Marine Special
Operations Command when it started, Isaid, where are we going to get

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the weapons? Because our company itselfwas one hundred and fifteen so that was
almost half of the equipment of theentire Force Reconnaissance of the entire Marine Corps
and he said, Hey, everythingyou need is in the armory at second
Force Reconnaissance, and so there's notreally a left enough weapons, night vision

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goggle, body armor left for thenext company. And I was addressing this,
but it really didn't matter because Ibelieve there was people that knew,
like this thing is going to we'resetting this up to fail. And I
mentioned that is the first day thatI landed in Afghanistan. Who flew off
the ships? Who took ships?And that's another thing. The Marine Corps

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wanted to maintain control, so theyput us on ships. They wanted the
Marines on the Marine Commander, ColonelStartlement on the ship to maintain control of
US. But the commander of theUS Special Operations Command, General Brown at
that time, and the Secretary ofDefense, who was doctor Rumsfeld when we
activated in two thousand and six.He was kind of Rumsfeld. I won't

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call him the godfather, but hewas basically the godfather in this arranged marriage
between the Marine Corps and Special OperationsCommand. He over he officiated it.
He was there in Camp Le Juneto make sure that the Marine Corps and
the Special Operations Command would go throughand create this. And I was actually
to use the term love child,our first company was born. But when

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we got on the ground in Afghanistana year later, to a gentleman that
I had served with and deployed within Fort Ricon when we were both stationed
in Okinawa, Japan, I raninto him. He's working for the CIA,
and he said, hey, Fred, they don't know who I am.
I'm just some beardy guy in theseconference is that? And at that
time there was no Marines in Afghanistan, so the Army Green Braids that we

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were working for when we got toAfghanistan felt very comfortable slandering and ridiculing the
Marine Corps because it was just homogenious, pure Green Braids. And they saw
this, you know, bearded CIAguy. They had no idea who he
was or what his background, butit was my friend and I won't mention
his name, but you know,the CIA has these paramilitaries they called the

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ground Branch, and he was inthe room to coordinate and deconflict their operations
with the US Armies special operations,and he said, hey, Fred.
They talked freely in front of me, and the leadership of the Green Brais
has said multiple times that the firstopportunity they had, they're going to kick

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you out. And I told mybuddy, I said, I and I
just really couldn't believe that American militaryleaders would think or try to do some
thing. But that's Tya. That'slike having you know, your husband meet
your boyfriend. It's we were notwanted a competition. They did not want
to set us up for success,like, hey, these Green Brais,

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they're not anxious to give us theirequipment and welcome us aboard, and you
know, sending us into the TorbourMountains. At that time, we first
thought like, this is great.This is where Assam in Lana was first
seen. But if that was areal juicy mission, Colonel Haas, in
charge of the Green Brais, wouldhave sent his Green berets in there.
And they knew they built this road. There's no jiehatis coming over snow covered

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peaks in February, March and fourteenthousand foot summit. They're using the roads
and they knew that. But andthat's kind of where you know, we
were still trying to go up intothose mountains where we were ordered, but
they never approved any aviation assets.And they also said, hey, your
ability to operate in those mountains iscontingent on not having another operation Red Wings,

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Marks and Latrels n You know,they got killed because they didn't have
an immediate reaction force. He said, you will have an immediate reaction force.
So when they didn't give us anyhelicopters to get in the mountains or
have a quick reaction force, wewent to a base that morning on the
fourth of March to coordinate with thearmy platoon that was at the Afghan Pakistan

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borders camp called Torqum Gate Camp,and we asked, hey, can we
stage forces here and the officer incharge said yes, and then we went
up to look into those mountains inour vehicles and then we came back to
We knew that where these suicide bombersare and we kind of had to clear
that node of suicide bombers out ofthis village. So this counterinsurgency strategy that

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was in effect. They didn't wantto go action in Iraq at that same
time, which is the deployments thatwe went on previous to this. We
had intelligence you could go and actionit. But this was the creation by
Mattis and portray us of this foreverwar via the counterinsurgency strategy that you can't

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go and and even capture them.You just have to suss him out.
You need to have a tribal leaderengagement, this is what they called it,
by having Chai sitting down and talkingto them. And I mentioned in
the book and this is fact.The very first day I got into Afghanistan,
there was a platoon that was operatingout of a base near ours called

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Kagyani that was blown up by abomber that was identified. He was actually
living in the military camp at Kagyani. And so I said, hey,
we have this technology where we canidentify we can go down there right now
and identify the source of where thatwas, who the killer was that was

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on the base. And the GreenBrays literally told me, no, we
don't want you to go down thereand to use this technology to identify this
guy. I see you no onyour head. But this is similar to
what happened just this last Saturday inButler, Pennsylvania. Like, hey,
we see the bad guy, wecan go do something. And they prohibit

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us from even driving the hour downthere to do this. They said we
need to see him do it again. And like wasting you want him to
kill more Americans. Wow. ButI'm setting the backdrop that this was the
pervasive mindset of the leadership in charge. And as we mentioned in the pre

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show, like Edmund Burke had said, you know, all that takes for
evil to prevail us for good mento do nothing, And that's what started
to seep in. Then. Obviouslythe Marine Corps didn't want this special marine
organization. The Army definitely didn't wantit, and they were taking all the
logistics, so we couldn't even fuelour vehicles. We could repair the tires.

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They wouldn't even feed us. Theythe fresh water in the well.
The two were special forces that werethere before. They actually defecated in the
well on the way out the door, so you know, being able to
survive with fresh water, I meanthe Army Special Operations Command thought maybe it
was funny, but you know,helping us out was not any type of

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priority of their own. Even thoughthey were retrograding and leaving, they did
not provide us with the resources todo the mission that they assigned us to
do. So it was it wasreally unfortunate. So we go into this
town to conduct this trivel leader engagementto hopefully sus out some information. We
knew it's controlled by the Taliban.The first border town like their logistics node

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for the Taliban. You're not goingto get good information out. And we'd
been through there at six am inthe morning earlier that day and it was
the normal atmospherics. We established abaseline there's women, children, men all
shopping in this roadside bazaar and thatwas the normal attics sphex. When we

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came back and we got on theroad and we started heading west into the
town of body Co, we noticeda total baseline shift one hundred percent absence
of women and children. And generally, when we've seen that in the past,
like a mass exodus of women andchildren and only foreign fighter or military

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aged men, I should say it'sgonna be a fight. Yeah, this
template like that happens one hundred percentof the time. You see these conditions,
you're going to fight. So theywere lined up on the sides of
the road staring at us like aparade or a funeral. And as soon
as we saw these conditions, Iset over there to watch out, and
a van filled with explosives detonated atthe front of our patrol. As soon

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as that happened. A sports utilityvehicle Toyota Prado, came on the south
side of the road down this dirttrail in the middle of the desert,
and the driver was driving the car. Three g hottis were hanging out of
the windows firing AK forty seven isfully automatic at our second vehicle, which
had just gotten blown out there,trying to t bone and finish it off.

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So we knew there's four suicide bombershere. One just detonated himself.
Maybe this is another suicide vehicle.So then this was nine o'clock in the
morning. To it there's no fogof war, limited visibility, like we
couldn't see what was going on.So the turret gunner in that second vehicle
of ours stood to his feet,as a Marine sergeant from Mississippi, he
was on fire. He stood hisfeet, extinguished his flames, grabbed his

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medium machine gun on the turret mount, aimed in and quickly started shooting at
and killing the Jihatis. That vehiclewas different than the rest of our vehicles.
All the rest of our humvis wereenclosed in steel, so the vehicle
that got hit had an open airin the back of it, sort of

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like, you know, the newTesla cyber truck. It you know,
we could stand up in the backand it looks different than all the other
trucks. So this vehicle did lookmore vulnerable because it had an open area
in the back and it wasn't completelyencased. And that was the vehicle that
we people said, why did youhave a vehicle on it that was used
as our ambulance vehicle. So theywere targeting a weaker vehicle. They were

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targeting our medical response vehicle. Andwe had our youngest marine in our unit
at the time, was a communicatorand he was in the back of that
vehicle armed with a light machine gunand he stood to his feet also and
reinforced the driver or the turret gunneraimed in and was shooting at those in

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that vehicle. The driver of thatToyota Prado that the Jihatis were shooting at
us. He dove out into aditch and continued to fight us with his
AK forty seven from that ditch,but we did not kill the driver.
He survived and he later a yearlater, in January two thousand and seven,
he was live in a trial.He came on to an American base

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and testified through a video teleconference andsaid, I demand justice. I demand
compensation for my vehicle and my familywas killed. And the prosecution that was
one of their two lead witnesses,and they thanked this sky Hadji Lawani commanan
who you read in this book.And I won't say the source, but
it's bomb proof source. There's anagency in the United States that collects intelligence

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that confirmed that this guy Hadji Lawanicomment on, was in Pakistan four days
before training groups of up to onehundred gihattists to conduct ambush against American forces
in body Co. So I meanthat's an official report, that's not hearsay.

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I mentioned in the book that theprosecutors were so biased. This is
like the same thing that's happening toDonald Trump right now and his allies like
Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, wherethe prosecutors were such sore losers as we
after this was the longest courtroom trialwith the war crimes trial Marine Corps history.

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But after we case was over andwe won, the prosecutors went after
our intelligence leaders in the Marine Corps, which are here visiting me today.
But you know, after all theseyears later, we still keep in touch.
But they threatened them and they said, hey, we know Galvin puts
you up to making a false intelligencereport. And just like I mentioned in
the book, they said, sir, don't go to Marsak. Go to

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the regular Marine Corps second Intelligence Battalion. Run that IR. That's a number
that for the intelligence report and lookit up. That's nothing we created that
as an That's another US government agencythat created that report. But the bottom
line TEA is the United States MarineCorps prosecutors were so bent, and it's

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kind of like people that have thisTrump arrangement syndrome, all normal logic leaves
their minds. But these Marine prosecutors, they brought in a known terrorist and
this was put into a book.So I still during the trial, I
had my tops heret clearance. Igot all this information. I compiled it
in a binder. So the prosecutionhad it, the jury had it,

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we all had it. They knewwho Haidi Lawani Commandan was. They knew
without any controversy that this guy isa senior Taliban terrorist and created this whole
thing, and the prosecution brought himas their lead witness, thanked him,
and even the they didn't have ajudge in our case. It was a

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court of inquiry, but he wasa legal advisor's ring colonel. Later it
went on to be the two starstaff judge advocate of the Marine Corps and
the Pentagon leader of all legal affairsfrom the Marine Corps. And he was
nearly teared up, you know,just hearing, you know, because that
they really had Stockholm syndrome. Theybelieved this guy, and they went so

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far that these prosecutors, with ColonelLetch the legal advisor, they conducted interrogations
of our marines. And that's mylegal defense counsel. Then Lieutenant Colonel Scott
Jack he stood up in on thefirst day at the courtroom and they had
this movable wooden podium and he's counting. This guy used me a linebacker in

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college football. He was pounding onthe ground. He said, you know,
these prosecuting attorneys dressed in civilian clothesusing deception, which is actually legal
for Naval Criminal Investigation Service agents touse deception and coercion, and they want
to get the bad guy. Butprosecuting attorneys marine officers cannot use deception and

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lie or take over investigations. Theycan't dress in civilian clothes and deceive that
they are incas they have to announcewho they are. Well, then Major
Sayer and Major Sanchez, the prosecutingattorneys, they participated in these investigations.
He actually targeted a marine two marineswith that you know ethnicity, one who
did immigrate, the other was fromPuerto Rico. But the one who immigrated

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from Mexico legally legally joined the MarineCorps, you know, was put on
the horns of the dilemma. Youknow, and this is so unethical,
but this is the extent of youknow, the deep state. You know,
the Pentagon is the when you talkabout the swamp, that's the actual
lowest part in Washington, d C. Although it's in our arlington. It
was the lowest part of the swamp. And this is how bad the Marine

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Corps wanted to convict innocent marines.They threatened this young Marine sergeant who his
crime was he joined the Marine Corpsduring time of war. He wanted to
serve in elite this elite unit,and so he was able to take the
selection pass it go on to servein second Force reconnaissance and we had selected

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him. So he was driving thatvehicle they got blown up. This is
his crime that he was he wasthere at the point of friction. I
mean, this is almost yeah.This is like the Secret Service agent that
you saw at Trump's right hand whowas protecting Trump, that was doing his
job and surrounding him doing a bodybunker. This is the same equivalent of
going after that guy's family and threateningto deport him. So they threatened to

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deport this you know, we callhim Meggie in the book because he had
some severe consequences at the stress,because he made a statement in Afghanistan saying
this is exactly what happened. Butthey these prosecutors distorted that sweated him,
just like they did the other Latinomarine, and like they also did to
the marine of Egyptian descent. Theythought they could find some vulnerabilities, and

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they kept sweating and the interrogating andinterrogating and constantly bringing him back in.
But this young marine who immigrated legallyfrom Gudalajara, they threatened and they got
him to sign their pre made statementsaying that you know, the Marines lost
control, snap fired wildly. Almostsounds a little bit similar to what Joe
Biden. This vitry all narrative.You know where he's saying, he's Trump

(46:02):
snapped, you know he uh,you know. And but when you use
language like the Marine Corps did inthis trial. You know, Joe Biden
on the eighth of December or eighthof July, about a week ago,
said we got to put the bullseyeon Trump. We started using language like
that. Or you have you know, your proxies like Soda Mayor say you
know a president can assassinate you know, your political rival. You say that

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in the mass media, guess what. It starts putting thoughts in people's heads.
And this starts soaking in like whenyou're in the military and says,
hierarchical chain of command is basically likegiven a wink and a nod to somebody
like this is what we want.So they're threatening a legal immigrant, yes,
with deportation, deporting his mom,deporting his mom, his you know,

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the closest thing, his blood family. So he has to me choice
blood family or brothers in arms.And so that really affected his sight.
He stopped producing testosterone for about tenyears. When they've ruined the lives of
you think your brothers in arms.But it's exactly the last four years.
If you don't comply one hundred percent, you're out. Yeah, you're out

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and will do anything. We wantyou unemployed, we want you your kids
taken away, we want you incamps for the unvapped, whatever. It's
so frustrating that the military that iswith the upholl ending the constitution is breaking
it so often. Yes, whenthey we take an oath against enemies foreign

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and domesticates, our founding fathers knewthat we could have Benedict Arnold's And I
don't say I want to go backto the title of the book. I
love the Marine Corps, the organization, but it's not the entire Marine Corps.
It's like that it's a few badmen. But taya when you you
know, so, it's not everybody. It's just a few people that wear

(47:59):
these bad apples. But if youallow that cancer to metastasize, as it
has over the last three and ahalf years especially, it will take over.
And you know, you're going tothink I'm crazy, because you know
not only after the ambush went onto serve seven more years until I reached
service limitations. They kicked me out, but then I actually, as a

(48:21):
retired marine, went back to serveas a civil servant in the Marine Corps.
And so even recently until two yearsago, I saw how the Marine
Corps has just and my friends thatare still in which I still communicate to
you every day, they're like,Fred, I mean, the woke policies
are pervasive across the entire organization.So are we going to be able to

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effectively dislodge a superpower when they takeover? You know this year this year,
in twenty twenty four, twice thePeople's Liberation Army and the People's Liberation
Army Navy, that's the Chinese militaryhas surrounded with their joint forces then higher
island of Taiwan to include their airspace. And one of these days, we

(49:04):
know the head of the Indo PacificCommand, in charge of all military forces
in the Pacific, believes that bytwenty twenty five, that's next year,
that the China will take Taiwan.And if they do that, and right
now we aren't meeting recruiting goals.And we've seen earlier this year that okay,
they're at least in the House wantingto submit legislation for a draft,

(49:28):
not selective service, but a draftwhich I think like if if women want
to be equal in law enforcement andthe military, they should have to.
If you want equality, it's nota two tiered system like, well,
I equal pay, but not equal. I don't want this draft thing like
wait a second. Equality is quality. You don't pick and choose. So,

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but America, listen to me whatI'm saying when here's some of the
consequences the tail of tape. Sincewe didn't do it withdraw from Afghanistan,
we retreated. President Trump wanted acondition's based withdrawal, and he had a
meeting that Hey, you may haveheard this from Representative Wesley Hunt out of
Houston. He was there in thenegotiations that Trump had with the Taliban leadership,

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and he said Trump said, withan interpreter, he said, tell
this Taliban leader that if a hareis hurt on the head of it,
any American while we leave Afghanistan,I will kill you. And the interpreter's
like, what, he goes youtell him? And then after he told

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him, Trump pulled out from hissuit coat a satellite picture of that Taliban
leader's house and handed it to thatTaliban leader and shook his head and said
I will kill you and left theroom. And guess what ted I mentioned
This not is like but this isactually a fact. Not the hair on
ahead of American was harmed for thenext eighteen months, because that's the Reagan

(50:59):
strength through that Trump had. Nowlet me tell you what the tail of
the tape has been since. Youknow, next month will be the third
year since we withdrew having thirteen Americanskilled. But we've also closed seven American
embassies this year. We've had twoUS flagged in the sea ships. These
are container ships that were hit byHouthi rebel missiles. And the Huthis will

(51:22):
guess how they get their money fromIran, which we gave six billion dollars
two back in October. At thesame time that, you know, one
of our closest Middle East allies,Israel, was violently attacked and we still
have American hostages, eight of themheld. When we are perceived as weak
and feckless, our commander in chiefand our military and we're inept and we

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won't respond, this isn't Reagan like, Hey, We're going to come in
and take care of business. Likewith Reagan and Trump. They think these
guys are a little bit crazy.Maybe, and some of that works to
our advantage. But we not onlyjust in the US military had two hundred
attacks since in the Middle East bythese our militias in Iraq, where we

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still have similar forces at sea withour US naval vessels by the Houthi rebels,
but also our allies closest to China, they we are not backing them
up. And I'm specifically talking.Two weekends ago a Taiwanese fishing vessel was
seized by the Chinese, and earlierthis year in April, a Filipino vessel

(52:28):
was harassed at sea by the Chinese. So our allies know that, like
America's not backing us up here?You know, are we alone? So
November can't happen soon enough. AndI know I'm not just talking about the
election, but I'm talking about twentyJanuary. But you know the world needs
strength and stability in leadership from theUnited States, and when our military is

(52:52):
not just being restrained because we wantto have this forever war and the tail
can wag the dog. I realize, like, Okay, Joe Biden,
for whatever political purpose, you canwithdraw us from Afghanistan. But all these
leaders who I mentioned that were fourstar generals that either retired out of Tampa
that's where we head all these MiddleEast wars, or the Pentagon. They

(53:15):
have access and placement back in thePentagon, or they know how to do
the Potomac two steps. They haveallies in the House and Senate Armed Services
committees. And when we spend somany billions of dollars in Ukraine that we
can't even keep track of the accountingof how much we've spent, there's a
reason that we're doing that because bottomline, people praise it like, well,

(53:36):
we're at least not worth fighting andPutin's bad. But we cannot go
on spending like drunken sailors on paydayweekend and continue to pay our bills.
There has to be some accounting ofthis, and there really isn't. And
what's going on in Ukraine. I'mnot saying it's good, but I'm saying
there is genocide going on in manyparts of not just so Sahara, Africa,

(54:00):
but all over the continent of Africa. And we pick and choose because
if we armed one side, itwould be a slaughter. But people in
the US government that work in theintelligence community are not stupid. They realize
how to create a war and haveit lasts forever, and when there's a
superpower like Russia and we arm anotherside that has chance of making a lot

(54:23):
of people money. So these retiredgenerals co operate and graduate. It's just
like we saw these fifty one millior intelligence leaders you know last campaigns say
oh that the Hunter Biden laptop isjust disinformation, and now we know that.
Okay, so our fifty one ofour most senior intelligence leaders in the

(54:45):
United States government lying. I meanagain, I want to let you know
to like my ex wife, she'sintelligence officer, they're not stupid. When
they get to those levels, theyknow what right is and they're going to
do wrong anyway. All it takesfor evil to prevail is for good men
to do nothing. They are basicallymade men like the mob. They're gangsters.

(55:07):
They're paid off and they're on thepayroll, and they have mortgage their
soul. Like you mentioned in alittle bit other terms, they don't care.
And it's just frustrating because in anygiven situation you have those who are
ignorant and I don't mean that pejoratively, but literally they just don't know what's
going on, right. I mean, we all work at information deficits at
any given time. That's why Ilove this book. So you have your

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ignorant and then you have the complicit, and the ignorant enable the complicit.
So when you're in the community likethe intelligence community, and they are smart
and they are clever, and theydo play on certain aspects of any given
demographic, boy, that is youjust give them the keys to the kingdom.
And you know, I think that'sa lot of it's our fault for

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not questioning. I was guilty ofthis as anybody years ago until things started
happening where I had to question.That's inconsistent. That's the main thing.
You know. You look for patternsand an entity is insistent. That's a
red flag to me. And whenyou say one thing and do another,

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speak out of both sides of yourmouth. Then we the people have to
stand up and say either push backand say no or let our people know
you're not getting elected if this happensagain. So I want to finish up
with the with the trial. Sowhat was the year that finally you all
were exonerated when the two Council?Was it after they submitted that twelve page

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report? Yes, so that twelvepage report was complete in May of twenty
eighteen, and it sat there becausethis is General Maddis was the Secretary of
Defense at that time, and thiswas, you know, a civilian panel
of civilian leaders did a deep diveon everything that happened in our Marsak case.

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In the second case that was inAfghanistan is the first case Marsk.
They tried to imprison us. Theconsequences and people think like, well,
they wouldn't have put you to deathor death penalty. Coriant really, I
mean a major Hassan Nadal, thepsychologists and psycho that shot those soldiers on
Fort Hood, the Fort hoodshooter,he has been sentenced to death. He

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hasn't been put to death, butthe death penalty was the consequence of the
first trial. The second trial Iwent to, they were just trying to
involuntarily kick me out of the MarineCorps for stopping my commanding officer from trying
to drop he was He didn't justtry. He dropped bombs on his own
troops. And they told me,fred, I require that you do the
same in the future. You dothe exact same thing. And I took

(57:44):
a polygraph on this. He saidfred, I'm willing to sacrifice the lies
these marines, and I need tomake sure you will too. And he
repeated that and said it to metwice and demanded that I do so when
you read this and everything in here, it took me eleven years to you
know how different this is to getthings that are classified, especially and I

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will credit Obama, who was theone that said when he was first elected
about the Freedom of Information Act.He says, the US government cannot classify
anything for the purpose of saving someonefrom embarrassment. But that's exactly what they
did on his watch. They keptthis information classified. What I described to
you, Ta, it's a gardenvariety gun battle. There's nothing I'm talking

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about that's classified. There needed tobe classified. This is just things that
were very embarrassing when you read thisand your jaw drops and you're reading these
quotes. These are attorneys talking towitnesses under sworn testimony. And why was
any of this classified? I mean, this was a gunfight. And why
for three and a half weeks duringthis trial did they content the prosecution.

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They had this legal advisor, ColonelLetchi, and he had this public affairs
officer. This is a job usuallyfor a lieutenant, if even a lieutenant,
usually like maybe a corporal to usherthe media in and out of the
courtroom. But they used a lieutenantcolonel that they flew up from Tampa,
Florida, from the Mareene Central Command. In this Lieutenant Colonel Sean Gibson.

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Every time there was a witness withsculptory evidence or a character witness, all
my character witnesses hadn't even been inAfghanistan. They were not eyewitnesses. They
were just talking about my character.But that is not the narrative that the
Marine Corps wanted to perpetuate. Sowhat am I to describing here? You
are a sharp lady. You knowabout information operations or now we call it

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information warfare. This cannot be doneagainst the American people by the American the
United States government. It's illegal todo that. And that's exactly what went
on by withholding This is freedom ofspeech set first Amendment. But we have
allowed this a lot of amendment,that's right, Yes, yeah, I

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mean first, fourth, fifth,fourteenth, I mean, I can you
know it's it's ridiculous and it isindicative, and I know there have been
other stories. They titled them bythe city now Haditha and there was a
marsk three yes and yes, andI don't know where those sit. But

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before we get to that, doyou have a I mean, I can
think of why, especially after thelast four years. Now I've been involved
nearly thirty years at a grassroots level. Okay, you know, I've been
a useful idiot for the uniparty untilI woke up right. And there's a
level of premeditation here major because youguys, it started before you got back

(01:00:44):
to base after that incident, Soyou guys got ambushed and by the time
you got back to base it wasall over that you guys had killed women
and children, which according to eyewitnessaccounts there were none around. So there's
a two two part answered. Sowe expect and now I didn't. Actually

(01:01:06):
at that time, I was kindof nause to the Afghan tactics because this
was something I had not deployed inAfghanistan. We'd studied as much, but
this was early on in the evolutionarycycle where they use stringers. These are
media sources that you know, areAfghan locals that you know. We saw
mister Karl. It was a journalistthat got his head cut off early on

(01:01:27):
in you know, Afghanistan, sothere's a lot of risks, and then
you were either embedding with US forcesor you were using locals. Now,
how accurate is that information? Howwell can you fact check if it's an
Afghan in a Taliban controlled town?We know what Taliban, you know how
they do business. So when you'resolely relying to this stuff, and I

(01:01:51):
want to set the backdrop to answeryour question, Taiah on the US,
I beause there's there's reasons that theAlabama to do this information warfare, psychological
operations. You know, getting aunit kicked out creates hesitancy on US forces.
But we expect the enemy to sensationalizeand do these type of tactics because

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we do the same thing. Wehave deception operations, psychological operations, information
operations. So it's like all's fairand love and war. We're going to
We're going to do these type operationsand we expect the enemy to do that.
But we do not expect and wedidn't in What has affected the psychology
of the psyche of many of theMarines that I was in command of is

(01:02:35):
when your own military turns on you, and whether it's the Army. That's
just like, hah, we knewyou Marines your first go out the door,
you can't compete in special operations,your rookies. I mean, they
love the fact that, you know, marines fell down in the arena,
and you know they didn't want tohelp us out in any way to begin
with, not just on that day, but they were making fun. You

(01:02:57):
read this book how they created thisreports, the failures of marsk of Fox
Company. They were creating reports thatwent to the highest level of special operations,
like we're Keystone Cops and in ourown Marines, before we even got
kicked out of country, we're makingcomments to media sources saying, you know,
these Marines were Keystone Cops. Thesewere people back in the States that

(01:03:22):
weren't picked for this first special TaskForce that I trained them. And I
was picked because actually deployed and didmore missions than any other Marine officer in
combat. So and we picked thehand picked the very best. But there's
some people that weren't picked that we'revery jealous. Like the story of Joseph
in the Bible, his brothers didn'tlike that he's wearing this fancy robe of

(01:03:45):
cloth of many colors, so theywanted to Okay, we'll show you you
little rigon got and when people havethis kind of leverage and they have the
of course the Marine Corps didn't wantthis to survive, and here was their
opportunity. Need to just scuttle itand let's let the army say they're accused
of mass murder and then we'll sendwell dog pile. This is what Mattis

(01:04:10):
did. He sent forty five criminalinvestigators and four prosecuting attorneys. Is that's
right, forty nine total people.This is unprecedented. In the Haditha eight
case, in the Hominia eight case, Alario Pantano was the very first Marine
war crimes case. It was justhim. They didn't send dog pile seven
to one odds. We don't fightin the Marine Corps if if they say

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there's seven times as many enemy andthere they have more power than you,
we don't go fight in those oddswhen it's seven hundred seven x. We
don't do that. But that's whatGeneral Mattis decided to do to us,
and to send these prosecutors to dressup in civilian clothes and lie and threaten
to deport They know what the truthwas. Yeh ask your readers buy this

(01:04:53):
book, go to appendix three,read through all the Afghan statements and say,
how could a then at the time, you star Marine lieutenant general named
James mad Dog Madis, how couldhe read all these statements if he ever
did and believe the Taliban? Believethe Taliban. And I want to make
one thing before it's too close.There's not a twenty ninth chapter in the

(01:05:17):
book. And this is the bottomline that so, what is if you're
an American and you're in a positionof power, whether you're an intelligence official
and you lie about Hunter Biden's laptop, or god forbid, you're a secret
service agent that was corrupted, oryou're military leader who has been corrupted in
the past. But I didn't writechapter twenty nine. But I'll tell you

(01:05:39):
one thing, and I believe inlife there's very few absolutes. Honestly,
do believe that there's only a fewabsolutes. But in this case, from
the what I went through in thedata that's there of the time, all
those military leaders who betrayed their ownmen, not exclusive to the Marine Corps,

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they ended up getting cancer, theyended up getting kicked out, they
ended up getting their careers, thethings that were the most important to them.
And it's kind of eerie. AndI don't wish this, and this
I didn't do this, but whathappened in two of their cases to their
firstborn sons. Old Testament doesn't saythou shalt not lie. It says thou
shalt not bear false witness against yourneighbor. Basically, it's more akin to

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slander and libel, assassinating someone's character. And that's the type of professional destruction
that it wasn't just lying. Theywanted to destroy us professionally. They wanted
to take everything. I mean wewere. I mean I'm from eastern Kansas.
I mean I didn't come into thiswith wealth or fame and fortune.
I repeatedly volunteered to deploy to combat, whether it's arackcraft, anison to fight

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for our country during the time ofwar. And so did the rest of
these marines. And these marines arethe ones that got blown up, like
I'd mentioned, were on fire,stood to their feet extinguish their flames,
and broad daylight aimed at a vehiclethat was heading straight towards him and return
fire. And you're gonna say marineslike that were drunk and got out of
their vehicle and went door to doorkilling women and children. And then that

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we came back in strong armed membersof media and picked up bullets and tried
to cover That was the narrative thatthe Taliban created. In the military knew
that it was false, and theywent ahead and used every type of illegal
type of information operations to move themedia out. When I mean just character

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witnesses saying hey, I served withFred Galvin. I was his commanding officer.
He's a good guy. They didn'teven want him to hear that.
So when you read the book andyou hear all these statements that are end
quotes, these are people that wentinto a courtroom the longest trial, forty
five witnesses swore under testimony, andyou read their statements, and you read
the Afghan statements, you know,like, there's no way that a three

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star general could have believed the afghansidstory, many of which those witnesses said,
well, I was paid to comehere. I'm lying since I can't
get any money. This didn't reallyhappen. They continue to admit that,
but you're going to say they werecredible and you wanted the prosecution the whole
time kept trying to go with thatnarrative. But you're seeing this type of

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law fair used against the President ofthe United States. And Donald Trump is
right when he says the only thingstopping the government from doing that is him,
and we cannot have this type oftyranny that's going on. That's what
our founding fathers opposed. Absolutely.When I take a look at the landscape
right now, to say that theRevolutionary War was fought over a lot less

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is not hyperbole. I mean,it's it's egregious. And I also think
President Trump was right in saying we'renext. And I think you start to
see that with people getting canceled orwhatever the case may be, just because
they disagree with someone or they maynot like someone. But when you read
a Few bad Men, it's clearthat the prosecution's case was entirely fabricated.

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It was ridiculous. And when youconsider mattis a three star general at the
time, I don't think he did. My conclusion was he chose to believe
it because that's what was easier forhim or convenient for him. And to
your point, I think when weindividuals, because it starts with individuals.
Right starts in our homes, itstarts with our families, and that has

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to by extension, affects society andthe culture. But when we go against
the laws of nature and of Nature'sGod, that yields absolutely no peace whatsoever.
And I think that's what you seewith the people, that just the
rot on the inside protrudes and becomespervades to the outside. Yes, and

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I know you're on a time frame. Major, I'm going to wrap it
up with this. What is yourpiece of advice to people listening other than
to read this book? And we'regonna we're gonna tell them. We're going
to get it to people listening whoeither are timid or or they just don't
want to bother. Yes, Iwill say this, and I was about

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ready to add I didn't read writechapter twenty nine. But a PostScript is
all these bad men that did this, one hundred percent of them, the
things that I imagine mattered the most, whether it's their health, their own
family, their career, their bravadoand their ego. You know, the
military, these generals, they haveeven cooks, and it was all shattered

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and it's not worth it. Donot mortgage your soul. If if you're
not just in the military, butin a government or in a business and
you just go after and you knowwhat the truth is. Not trying to
quote a few good men, butyou can handle the truth. You can't
handle it right. But if youknow the truth and you viciously attack innocent

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people, there are consequences for that. And you may have this short sighted,
near term success and you may getpromoted and you may climb that next
rung and step on the head ofthe person to get there, but eventually
it'll catch up to you and it'llbe far worse. And my main thing
is that doesn't apply to everybody,because most people are good people, but

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there are people that this will happen. And again in this you know,
there was a twelve year period wherethis happened in all those leaders I've seen
one hundred percent of them, whetherit's with their families, their career,
their health, the worst. WhatI would never wish on man. I
mean, I pray that they thistype of stuff doesn't happen, but it's

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a reaction to an action. Justdon't go after innocent people. There's consequences
to that. So but you know, I appreciated being able to serve our
country. And the last thing iswe really do need a strong military.
People say, well, would youhave one in your family? They have

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to, but we have to demandaccountability. It needs just like a medical
exam, a thorough autopsic see oflike how did the few bets and this
body die and what was right andwhat was wrong? And how do we
get rid of these type of cancers? Because this is what's going on is
all this diversity. This is nota good thing in our military. This

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is not what's making us stronger inour military. What that is a external
and I know this from working ininformation operations as an external threat, a
narrative? What makes the enemies ofthe United States have they've done their MISSI
analysis, they realize what makes theUnited States strong? And that's just it.
Like I said, the United Statesare strong beaus of our unity because

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we agree on some things. Wemay be both like wearing blue. Sure,
but the fact of the matter isyou may like salsa, I may
not. But the things that wehave in common, free speech, freedom
of worship, freedom of the simile, freedom of vote, freedom bare arms.
We agree on these things. Butwhen those becomes points of divisiveness,

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and people will start using this vitriollike soda mayor saying, you know,
things that include the word assassination.When when the President of the United States,
and I'm not making this up aswe all know, starts saying bullseye
on his political opponent, we cannottolerate these that's I know some people get
triggered or you know, they havethese emotions and hate speech, but that

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is clearly hate speech. When youstart talking about bullseye on your political opponent
and assassinating your political opponent. Americashould not have tolerance for that level of
rhetoric. That it is only there'sone purpose in that, and that is
to eliminate your opposition. And weand they say Donald Trump, they lie
saying he has vowed to be adictator on day one. That is a

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false narrative. And when the presidentI heard him say that on July eighth.
You know, the point I'm tryingto make is the president is the
commander in chief. He is amember of the senior member of our US
arm Forces. So the president isnot allowed to use information operations. He
cannot just information operations. Is tryingto anything that tries to distort or usurp

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the truth. But when he say, I mean maybe he is demented,
or maybe he is trying to useintentionally information operations. But when you say
President Trump has vowed to be dictatoron day, when President Trump has never
said that, that is against Wehave laws from members of the military,
and the commander in chief should notlegally be saying things like he has been

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saying. We need to back down. But good things are in order for
America in the future. I'm veryoptimistic, but it takes America being active.
We need to vote, and weneed to have an open mind.
But to it, as my grandfathersaid, we shouldn't be so open minded
their brains fall out and fall Yes, that's Chesterton. You had a very

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smart grandpa. Indeed, Yeah,it's I'm glad you ended on that note.
It's the disagreement. We've equated disagreementwith hate, and there's a reason
why Christ equated hate with murder.Yes, I think we're seeing that that
play out, all right. MajorFred Galvin A Few Bad Men, The

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True story of US Marines ambushed inAfghanistan, Betrayed in America. I cannot
recommend this book strongly enough. Iwant to thank you for your service,
your honorable service, the honorable serviceof your team. Unfortunately, the dishonorable
actions of the few bad men weknow will not prevail because of your efforts.

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I want to thank you for that. And Sarah, I just wish
you godspeed and the best. Thankyou, and God bless you too.
Da, thank you. Okay,we're going to wrap it up there.
What a fascinating guy, what afascinating story. I beg you all to
read it. A Few bad Men, Major Fred Galvin tells the story,

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and obviously there is a lot morein the book, but it is a
fascinating read. All right. Iwant to thank you all for listening today.
I want to think, as alwaysto magic Man Joe Strecker until next
time, who will stand at eitherhand and keep the bridge with me.
Have a great day.