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January 29, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karthe Goo Delendesk. Hello everyone, and welcome to Everything's Political.
I'm your host, Taya Shoemak. You can also find us
online at Everything's Political dot substack dot com. Shout out too,
Magicman Joe Strecker, the Galileo Galilei of podcast producers. Galileo,

(00:23):
that's so fun to say. One of my all time
favorite characters of history. Amazing, bright, talented. I think he
was a bit of a stinker, but that's okay, because
sometimes we need those folks to turn the world upside down.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Galileo. Goodness.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
He was born on this day in sixteen forty two.
Considered the father of modern science. This guy made so
many contributions to physics, astronomy, mathematics, I mean amazing amount
of exposure. And do you know, Joe, that he did
not graduate from the University of Pisa. How in the

(01:07):
world could anyone have made anything of themselves without graduating?
I say that with my tongue firmly implanted in my
cheek given our last interview with David Barnheiser in Compliance Colleges.
But wow, what an amazing guy invented an improved version
of the telescope that allowed him, and again, y'all, this

(01:30):
is the in seventeenth century he could observe and describe
moons of Jupiter, the rings of Saturn, the phases of Venus,
the moon's surface.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean, come on to me, same as the.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
All right with us today is one of our favorite guests.
He is doctor Pierre Corey. Doctor Corey, welcome back and
thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh my pleasure. It's an honor to come back.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
So what I wanted to go through today was the
educational conference that FLCCC put on recently. I'm not one
to joyfully get on a plane, but had there not
been a scheduling conflict, I would have been on a
plane to that conference in Arizona. Can you tell us
a little bit about what goes on and what went
on at this educational conference?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, you know, without tooting our own horn, what we
recognized that our last conference is this is our third one.
You know. The first two were really focused on understanding
and treating spike protein induced disease right so long COVID
long VACS. And the last conference we started to go
further afield into different topics and this was just such

(03:03):
a great mix of kind of health promotion, even financial.
We talked about cancer, but before I go into what
we talked about, the greatest thing about is we're starting
to see this community build. Like when people go there,
they're just pumped up, totally engaged, you know, they love
interacting with everyone. A bunch of doctors there, all of
them are awake, all the patients are awake. You know,

(03:25):
everyone's wanting to know where to find care for this
or that or the other thing, and learning what we're learning,
because we're learning as we go. And I wouldn't call
myself an expert at long COVID longbacks, but boy do
I have a ton of experience. You know, to be
experts going to take quite a few years. But you know,
the sense of community and bonding is really special. And
that came out the whole weekend. But you know, not

(03:47):
only did we readdress, we did a lot more clinical
case reports, case reviews of like how we approach certain
difficult cases, how we treated them. That was really good.
And then we went on too, a whole big thing
which is really the work that Paul's done over the
list last year, Paul Marrick, which is understanding the metabolic
clauses of cancer and that's a huge one. And then

(04:10):
we talked about a study that we're doing with a
group of practices my own included where we're treating patients
adjunctively from a metabolic approach. Right, so the system oncology
approach is all about mutations and cytotoxic therapies, right, chemotherapy, radiation,
and that paradigm has been around for seventy years. But

(04:30):
if you don't mind, hey, I'll just keep going on
this because this is hugely important. Absolutely please do because
and I also want to be humble here, Like when
Paul started doing this work on cancer, he kept trying
to talk to me about He's like, you know, cancer
is a metabolic disease, it's not a mutational disease. And
I was half listening. I've been so busy, I haven't
really done my own deep dive. And it was only

(04:51):
in the last few months that I started looking and reading.
In fact, I read a couple of books. I read
Paul's Cancer Care, and I was shocked. Literally, this is
the thing about cancer is that about one hundred years ago,
in the nineteen twenties, there's a guy named Otto Warburg,
and he won the Nobel Prize in medicine for his
discovery about how cancer cells behave And what he found

(05:15):
was that cancer cells, in order to divide and create energy,
it survives solely on glucose. Right, so our cells. You
can power cells with oxygen or glucose. One's called aerobic,
the other one's called anaerobic. And he found that cancer
cells exclusively need glucose for energy. And there was a

(05:38):
debate on how best to treat cancer, and there was
the metabolic camp, and then there's what the modern oncology is,
which is this somatic mutation theory. And I got to
tell you they got it wrong one hundred years ago,
like the entire system moved to somatic mutation. There's been
tons of research over the years, the genetic databases, all
these mutations, chemotherapy, pre radiation, that that's essentially what cancer

(06:02):
is treatment. But when you go back and you look
at things like ketogenic diets, you know, starving the cancer
cell of glucose, and then all of these repurpose drugs
that have other metabolic mechanisms which actually prevent the cancer
cell from dividing, things like iverromectin, a bendozol over those
now trexone, vitamin D and so we are now starting

(06:25):
to treat cancer. And by the way, it's funny, I
don't want to say I'm an oncologist because I can't,
but I'm going to look to my left and my right.
I want to know why, because I understand what causes cancer.
And I literally think the entire feel of oncology has
a very It doesn't have the most accurate, comprehensive understanding
and or understandings of the treatment of cancer. And yeah,

(06:47):
I'll just stop there because I know you and I
talked about before we got on about the webinar last
week with Angus Dalgleishian and one of the most celebrated
oncologists in the world, and even he recognizes the role
of repurposed drugs, right, And so the cancer thing was
that was a big one. And then you know, we
just had talked. We had little side talks on financial health.
You know all you know, health is everything, right, Health

(07:09):
to me is physical, social, financial, sexual, intellectual, you know
all of it. And I think we're starting to address that.
And what we're trying to do is we're just trying
to be a place where you can come for sound
unconflicted guidance. We have no conflicts of interest, We don't
make money off of everything. We just want to teach.
We're educators and we just want to look at things

(07:31):
critically without being paid to do so, without being inflicted
to do so, and we wanting to give you like
objective opinions. And I think people really appreciate that at
the conference absolutely.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean, you know, and I mentioned before that you
guys are an exemplary of beauty from ashes because you
are genuinely trying to take things in the proper, accurate
direction of us reclaiming the responsibility of our health, being
able to weigh our own risks. And we do, however,
in that need a guiding light, right. We need someone

(08:03):
with the experience like yourself, like doctor Merrick. You know,
all of the folks involved, Kelly, Betsy, all of them
at FLCCC, and so it's crucial to have somewhere to
go to check yourself right and to have information. And
I agree hundred percent with the metabolic health issue. We

(08:23):
just interviewed Vance L. Rodd, who is well, he's a
professional MMA fighter, but he's also the CEO of Morocci Medicinal,
which is a new American provider of methylene blue. Oh interesting,
and treated his TBI. Treated, and then he stayed on
it for just a little while longer, and he said,

(08:43):
I realized all these other benefits I was getting from it.
And so he did the deep dive into the electron
transport chain and how the oxygen works and the energy
that's produced.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Was was he useditting hyperbaric oxygen as well for his TBI?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I don't believe. So that's a great question, though I
didn't think to ask him the two.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Those two I would always pair those two therapies, methling
blue and hyperbarrack, especially for a traumatic brain injury for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, yeah, that and there's a substance called shila jeet
yes practice okay. And so that is all about the
mitochondrial health that when that is dysfunctional, that in my opinion,
is where disease, chronic disease starts. And so it makes sense.
And I've heard this over the years. You know, cancer

(09:32):
love sugar. I mean I've I've heard that a lot.
I've not I never did the deep dive before, but
I was never a big sugar person.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Let me let me give you this really dramatic example. So,
do you know roughly what a PET scan is? Yes,
no pet scan, right, it's a cat scan, but they
inject you with sugar with dye that's attached to sugar.
Because if there's cancer in your body, it's going to

(10:00):
hate that sugar to a far greater extent than all
the other cells. And that's entirely what the pet scan
technology is based on, which is one of the foundational
diagnostic interventions in modern cancer. So like literally this whole
other model of somatic mutation. They're using pet scans, which
rely on this metabolic condition of cancer cell. So it's

(10:22):
almost kind of like like a weird like oxymoron paradox,
like they're trying to kill these cancer cells, but at
the same time their diagnostics rely on this very important
metabolic feature of cancer. So you're absolutly right. Cancer loves sugar,
and the cancer of sugar you got to starve it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And so would it be accurate then to say to
people who say there were no bright spots on the
PET scan, is are those bright spots the sugar reaction?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, if you write exactly so, if you don't have
any bright spots, they'll, you know, the reports will be
read as no evidence of disease. But if you have
a lot of metastases, everything lights up because these you know,
there's dye attached to the glucose. Wherever the glucose goes,
it lights up on the skin. So you'll see a
mass here, here, here, brain, wherever in the body there's cancer.

(11:11):
And so that's how they detect it is where does
the glucose go and and you know, so that's on
the diagnostic approach, but we're saying therapeutically, don't give it glucose,
get a ketosis, and so we have you know, that's
the foundation of our therapy. I would say the foundation
of this adjunctive care is number one teaching people how

(11:31):
to get into ketosis right in terms of diet using
glucose monitors. So I'm starting to treat these patients, I
order them all continuous glucose monitors. I tell them they
need to keep your glucose between fifty and eighty, no spikes.
You have to learn the foods that spike you out
of the eighty range. I keep the glucos as low
and then also ketone ketone level, so we also measure

(11:53):
key to make sure that you're in ketosis and that
already is a huge way to address your cancer. And
then obviously we do vitamin D low DOS no TREKSO
and I've remact and we have a whole host of
repurposed drugs that are well tolerated. And I'm really encouraged
to see what this study shows. I mean, I've already
started to roll and treat patients and it's exciting for

(12:13):
me because this is all kind of newfound knowledge the mechanisms.
But I know a lot of the medicines. That's the thing.
It's like, you know, the oncologists don't know these medicine.
I've been using these medicines for a while, right, right,
So I almost feel like, you know, I can hold
my own with an oncologist and they're ration.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I have no doubt. I have no doubt. So you
all are not only conducting these studies or helping patients.
Is it accurate that you are also observing what other
doctors are doing around the world.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, so there are doctors doing similar things. This is
a much more organized approach. I mean, we have a
data collection instrument, we have all the parameters that we
want to follow. We have about five practices right now,
and we might add more later. We first want we're
still going through the IRB. It's an observational study, but

(13:03):
we're going to be collecting immense amount of data. And
I think our main outcome that we're going to look
at is predicted survival when they consult us. Right, So
there's a lot in cancer, right, there's lots of data
where they can say, based on this, this, and this,
your estimated five years survival is this. And then we're
going to say, with the introduction of these how well

(13:25):
did they fare against predicted That's that's why it's an
object So it's not randomized control trial. But like we're
going to give people to place. But by the way, I,
knowing what I know about the metabolic approach, I could
never take a patient with cancer and say, oh, we're
going to sign you to like a high sugar diet
with you know, like cocal puffs and yes, ye, yeah,

(13:48):
but anyway that you know, And and again will our
study change the world in terms of the system, No,
absolutely not, but it would further our understanding and understanding
of the efficacy of these approaches, and people who are
willing to listen understand the science and believe our data.
I think we can be We'll have very compelling data.

(14:10):
It's never gonna get FDA like we're not into you know,
that's all nonsense that the system is captured, the regulatory
structures we captured. But we're just trying to do good,
honest medicine, and we're trying to share what we find out.
And I think what we'll find out is really positive,
high impacts in terms of therapeutics.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, you know they say that genetics load the gun,
lifestyle pulls the trigger, right, and so in that regard,
I love what you guys are doing because we do
have more control, I think than we're told we do.
Oh it's not this, just take this pill or it's
not it's not your diet. You know, go ahead and
eat the way you're eating. Just take this shot or whatever.

(14:52):
So in that regard, I do think it turns things
upside down, which is you know, I'm all about turning
it upside down.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, you know, Fia, I wanted to mention one another thing,
like what's so cool? Like because you know before I
was telling you, like, what we try to do is
be free of conflict of interest. You know, we're just educators.
We're not trying to make money off of any We're
trying to look at things critically. But another strength of
the fl CCC, which I just was thinking about, is
that we're all so free, meaning free. We have the

(15:19):
freedom to do what we're doing. By the way, that's
only because all of our careers have ended. We've been,
you know, expelled from the system. I don't have a career,
a job, and an employer that I have to keep happy,
so I can see and do and study and think
and recommend whatever I want without any fear of retribution.

(15:40):
And so try to find a group of doctors like
that right now, Yeah, yeah, exactly. And and and that's
why I think it's a very unique position we're in
is that we don't we don't answer to anybody. We
just we collaborate, We talk to experts, you know, we
we learn about so much science which has been dismissed
and distorted and not published, right because remember modern medical

(16:02):
biomedical sciences, there's super controls around what's published and things.
So I almost feel like we're doing gorilla medicine, but
in a very sophisticated, very expert, high level way. And
it's what we need to do. We got to fight back.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
This is a absolutely, absolutely it's and I was pleased
to hear doctor Merrick. He was on with yan Ya
Kellek and he mentioned doctor Brazinski. Yes, years and years
ago when I first started getting into that type of
holistic functional medicine and learning about it. I watched those
documentaries and was just baff But of course it didn't

(16:36):
surprise me. I've always questioned authority, but especially over the
last four years. I say, you know, there are a
lot of things that we can reassess now with the
benefit of hindsight, and I think everyone is open to that.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The Brazinski documentary is just a much watch. You know.
One of the things I took from Brazinski is how
we're patient they were and trying to take him down.
How indefatigable they were. I mean, they just kept going
and going and going, and he kept winning, but he

(17:10):
had to spend the immense amounts of money. And the
other thing is is how long it's been going on.
I mean, Brazinsky, I think those videos are from the eighties.
I mean some of the early videos where there's testimony
on except the nineteen eighties. That's like almost forty years now,
any safe, non chemotherapy, non radiation therapy treatment of cancer

(17:33):
is going to be destroyed. And Brazinski was the you know,
kind of the the tip of the spear. And we
know that they're going to come after us, but you know,
what can they do. I don't know that our followers
are our followers. The people who listen to us are
going to listen to us, and you know, yeah, they're
going to make us seem incredible to the rest of society.
But I got to tell you the amount of people

(17:54):
that are in our world now, thea it's growing age.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And what I don't know that third time is a
charm for them because they did it with you know,
in RFK Junior's book, you read about how they did
it to Peter Dusberg and oh any naysayers with the
regards to the HIV treatment, and then they did it
to Brazilska. It's the same, it's the same method of destruction.
They did it with you and Ivermectin, they did it

(18:21):
with Robert Malone. They've done it with everybody, and so
I think people are catching on. And that's what's so
encouraging is that you are like, Okay, when you're ready,
come on board.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
But you know it's funny. What I want people to
do is when they see a doctor under attack for
being a quack or fringe or radical, I want people
to interpret that as hmm, that doctor may know something
that's inconvenient to the very moneyed interest, meaning that doctor's
over the target and he's a threat. That's why he's

(18:53):
getting he or she is getting attacked. And that would
to me, would tell me that all of my work,
because I've done a lot of work, not only science,
but I've been really trying to teach people my whole
book Warren, I've met it is literally teaching people how
they use propaganda in sciences, how they use disinformation tactics.
And I want the average citizen to be well informed

(19:15):
of how those moneyed interests convince you to do stuff
that's really bad for your health. Yes, taking COVID armor
and RNA vaccines, giving it to your six month old,
giving it to your pregnant white you know, all of
those things. I want people to understand they need to
be more skeptical.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right, agreed, Agreed, And look, I know that you're on
a timeframe, and I don't want to keep you any further.
I just want to thank you again for everything you
all are doing. You're welcome back anytime. We're going to
continue to point to FLCCC, the website, the webinars, letting
people know if they can't view it, what's going on,
and just all of the all the fantastic information and

(19:57):
resources that you all give people to true take ownership
of their health and to go in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah. I appreciate your support. I'm glad to be on
your side. You know, I came out of allopathic system medicine.
Now I get it, but you know what I really
find encouraging is is to be able to give cancer
patients to hope. There's a little lot of cancer right now,
the terms of cancer, so many poor innocent people who

(20:24):
are bamboozooed and getting these multiple vaccines and now they're
getting sick with cancer. We've got to throw everything at it,
and hopefully our practices that we have I'm going to
add more, are going to be enough to meet the
demand of people who are awake and interested and open
to what we're saying scientifically and want to pursue therapy
and tell them go to the FLCC website.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
And we will we will send them there as well,
and I want to thank you again for being with
us today. I hope you have a great rest of
your week and take care. We'll do thanks all right,
Doctor Pierre Corey everyone, it's always inspiring to speak with him.
Want to encourage everyone to go to the COVID nineteen
Criticalcare dot com website. That is where you can find

(21:10):
the FLCCC Alliance group and they have just an amazing
amount of foundational resources there. Everything from taking a course
whether you're a doctor or a layperson, to protocols, preventive protocols,
treatment protocols, what they're doing with this exciting new cancer study.

(21:34):
It's amazing. You can find their past webinars and the
community section.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
They have a.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Forum for members. I'm not sure you need to sign
up with your email, but you may have to do that,
but you can speak with other members and it's just
a really interesting, diverse and eclectic community and it's fun.
So highly encourage that. I want to thank you all

(21:59):
for listening today. Thank you as always to magic Man
Joe Strecker. Until next time, who will stand at either
hand and keep the bridge with me?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Have a great day,
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