Everything's Political Season 5 Episode 2 - Dr. Lynn Lafferty

Listener favorite Dr. Lynn Lafferty joins us to explore the transformative possibilities within our healthcare system, focusing on wellness and integrative medicine. Dr. Lafferty discusses Bobby Kennedy’s confirmation and his compelling plans to channel significant research funding into natural medical approaches. We venture into the intricate world of genetics, examining how variations like MTHFR affect vitamin processing, with profound implications for conditions such as autism. Through our conversation, Dr. Lafferty emphasizes the value of whole foods in obtaining essential nutrients and warns of the risks linked to synthetic vitamins, particularly for those over 40, where inflammation becomes a significant health concern.

A journey through the fascinating role of whole food vitamins awaits as we unravel the benefits of consuming entire foods over isolated compounds. Discover the magical synergy between nutrients—how cholesterol, vitamin D, magnesium, and K2 work together for optimal wellness. We'll also reflect on the historical use of whole food sources, like cow liver, and discuss how the standard American diet's acidic nature impacts our health. High doses of isolated vitamins might seem beneficial, but could they miss the mark for long-term health?

We challenge conventional views on disease etiology and treatment, emphasizing the crucial role of gut health and acidity balance in autoimmune diseases. Dr. Lafferty shares insights into the interconnectedness of cholesterol, autoimmune conditions, and gut bacteria, highlighting gut flora's role in diseases like rheumatoid arthritis. We'll also explore alternative treatments for cancer and the urgent need for healthcare freedom, allowing individuals to explore options without regulatory barriers. By advocating for a balanced approach that integrates traditional and holistic medicine, this episode empowers you to make informed lifestyle changes that support a healthier future.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, and welcome to you Everything's Political. I'm your host,
Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's
Political dot substack dot com. Shout out to Magicman Joe Strecker,
the Thomas Paine of podcast producers, born on this day
in seventeen thirty seven. He was actually born in England

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and came to America in seventeen seventy four. Benjamin Franklin
helped him immigrate. When he got here, he obviously became
involved in the independence movement, writing his pamphlet Common Sense
in seventeen seventy six, which became widely popular and helped
build support for the revolution. During the war, he also

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served as an aide to General Nathaniel Greene, during which
time he also wrote The American Crisis. And that was
a series of pamphlets supporting the cause of independence. And
these include the famous quote and I love it's like
Charles Dickens. Everybody knows Tale of Two Cities. It was
the best of times, it was the worst of times,

(01:05):
and the American Crisis began with these are the times
that try men's souls. And I'm going to continue the
summer Soldier and the sunshine. Patriot will in this crisis
shrink from the service of their country. But he that
stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of

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men and woman women. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.
Yet we have this consolation with us that the harder
the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain
too cheaply, we esteem too lightly. It's talking about cheap
grace here. It is dearness only that gives everything its value.

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And it would be strange, indeed, if so celestial an
article as freedom should not be highly rated. Folks, those
words are as true today as they were when he
wrote them. And it will only be with our consistent engagement,

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our fierce independence, and I'll add with boldness that will
ensure that the path forward leads to liberty over tyranny.
So let's go say, Okay, if you're a regular listener,

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you know that one of those paths about which I'm
talking is unbridled liberty in the realm of health care
and wellness. For way too long, we've had a bureaucracy
and a corruptocracy, if you want to call it, that,

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that has hidden cures, that has softened effects, adverse effects,
and basically has manipulated and created a system that lines
pockets over helping Americans stay healthy. And part of that

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path is getting away from pill pushers. Our doctors are
trained to be pill pushers. It's like now our teachers,
we've turned them into administrators and indoctrinators. We've turned doctors
into administrators and pill pushers. So where are we to
go for education and wellness? I can tell you immediately

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it's home. We have to look within ourselves and that's
going to be very challenging because there is a generation
and I'm going to say it's Gen X, because we're
next up. We're the next geriatric generation. We're going to
be the guinea pigs. That is this space between pill

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pushing and genuine wellness. And we're going to have to
be bold and brave with the understanding that there are
worse things than dying, with the understanding that how we

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proceed will affect posterity. So toward the that end, right
of getting away from the pill pushers. And look, I'm
not against all medication. You guys know that on day
two of ivermectin, I felt like running the Flying Pig

(05:13):
Marathon twice, so I get it. Sometimes you might need
a man made medication, but we have suffocated the idea
that our immune system is brilliantly designed and if we

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just give our bodies, and we're all different, if we
just give our bodies the right fuel and the right conditions,
then it might help us prevent illness and chronic disease.
That's what we're about. So again, toward that end, we

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have a listener favorite back with us today. He is
a leading expert in integrative nutritional health and she's here
to speak with us today about America's wellness and she
is listener favorite, doctor Lynn Lafferty. Doctor Lafferty, thanks you
so much for being on.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Thank you. I really enjoyed being on your show, so
thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I can't wait to dive into some of the improvements
that God willing will be able to make in this
nation's healthcare, perhaps even move it toward wellness, doctor Lafferty.
Before we dive in, I have to ask you your
opinion on Bobby Kennedy's confirmation and what are you hoping

(06:41):
that he accomplishes well.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
One of the things he's talked he put in his
plan that I saw is to give fifty percent of
the research money to integrative natural type of medicine.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
And I think that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I actually write a sub stack under the stage professor
and I talk about three things about NIH that gets
fifty billion a year in research. I talk about one
of our scientists at this the university here that I'm
working gets probably in government grants, maybe twenty from NIH

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and maybe forty or million a year. She hasn't moved
her patient care in the two diseases. She looks at
a millimeter. While this other professor who should win a
Nobel prize, he's an older professor and he has been
a pioneer and just came out with another with a

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group of scientists of why the aluminum in the vaccines
are causing the autism condition. But that MTCHFR it's called
you have a what we call a snip, And what
a snip means is that your genetics doesn't work like
everyone else's. It may be slower, and there's variations from

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being really detrimental to maybe a little detrimental. But there's
a pathway that you have to have tetrahydromethyl folate and
methyl b twelve. A type of moth will be twelve
different The one in the brain is different than the
one in the heart, so it just methy will be
twelve different types of chemical vitamins there inside. Without those,

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you get hyper inflammation.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So we already know.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You look on the website of CDC itself and it
tells you that it's adding aluminum to the vaccines, most
of the vaccines, and they're telling you the reason we're
doing it is to hyper activate, so it goes into
hyper inflammation. And because they don't have the break, so

(08:50):
that's always been the question, Well, my kid got these
vaccines and doesn't have it, so it can't be from
the vaccines. But they've tested that most of the children
have this problem, this genetic problem. But everybody, there's twenty
five percent of a marecut that has it. And they
talk about now taking B twelve and folic acid, the

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regular chemical type that we take that most people take
from the drug store shelf, actually may cause cancer. And
it says twenty two or twenty three percent of the population. Well,
that's the twenty two or twenty three percent that can't
methylate that stuff and convert it. That's why I've always
been a pro motor and proponent of animal tissue vitamins

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because the animals.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Are going to make the correct type of.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
B twelve, And like I said, the one in the
adrenal plant is going to be different than the heart.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
And so when you get all.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Those different tissues, you're going to get the different types
of vitamins and the converted into their converted form for
that tissue.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So you'd be a proponent then of getting everything from
your diet as much as you possibly can, because isn't
full of acid that we take. Isn't that synthetic? I know,
I know we make folate right.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right, but like a hydromethyl folate, that is the chemical
that must go in to this pathway. Or you have
very high homocysteine, and that especially affects the heart and
the brain and causes super inflammation according to this doctor's paper, So.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Everyone in America, the money.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
He gets the NIH should be sharing this with every physician,
promoting what it means and promoting them to do a
study on it. The same thing with COVID. Right when
I first heard the word COVID, I went to the
medical library. I pulled probably twenty studies that showed whether

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you had a viral infection, a bacterial infection, or a
funnel infection, and you died you were low in vitamin D.
So these are the types of things that we need
to be talking to doctors about right now.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
And this is a really huge problem.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
The AMA and their board that approves the CME, the
Medical Medical Education for doctors does not allow us to
even get credit for anything that's integrative or complementary or
anything like that. So so many things have to be changed,

(11:37):
and he's the person to do it. His courage to
go outside the box and look at what he's taking
from his own family for God's sakes, and I want
someone And you know what the way he talks about that, well,
we've always been a family who has discussions and gets
in fights, and we used to have that too at

(11:58):
dinner table, you know, about politics. So he takes it
on the chin with a smile and moves forward. And
that's the kind of courageous leaders that we need. So
I'm I'm really excited that he's been chosen.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I am too. He certainly walks his talk, Yeah, he has.
You know, when I grew up, the Hudson was on
fire and you know, and now it's one of the
most diverse ecological systems that we have. Briefly on that
MTHFR is that also related? Do I recall reading that

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associated with miscarriages?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Possibly it could be. I've never read that, so I
take your word. Probably it is. It can be related
to many things. You know.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
There's two things I tell my students.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
You know, I'm a professor at medical and pharmacy school.
I teach a lot of residents, medical residents, because if
you don't remember anything else, everybody over forty, it's about inflammation,
and that's the first step in your immune system. So
no matter what's happening in the body, you can call
it all these other conditions. And that's why I don't

(13:10):
even really believe in diagnosis. It's more to tell you
what the symptoms are. We have to look at the symptom.
But and then right now, which it never was like
this before, it's about how sugar's handled in the body,
the diabetes and the dysfunction there, because that causes a
lot of inflammation, especially in your endothelial tissue, which is

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what lines your blood vessels. And most heart attacks actually
have nothing to do with your heart. Most of it
has to do with your adrenal blands. We know when
you're under most your type A and stressed out, you're
more likely to have heart disease, and the adrenal blands
if you are stressed out, will raise your blood sugar,

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you know. So there's all of those types of considerations.
So this is what I'm excited about, is to be able.
I have a list full of things that I'd like
to see test.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
It is all so on top of all of the
environmental stressors and maybe our personality types, we can also
talk about the inflammation caused by all the synthetics that
we get in our diet, right, whether it's and I
would I would add vitamins into that, right because as
you said, there are different types of vitamin B. There's

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the methyl cobolamine, and then there's the cyanide something I
forget what it's called, but all I see a cyanide
and iron.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's mostly what you would get in your regular pharmacy
if you bought it off the shop and they have
a lot of dyes, you know. I use a whole
food iron product that's very light because it's.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
All from food from liver and greens.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And stuff, And at first I have the students feel
the different and then look at the side of what's
in it, and all these dyets are in it that
causes ADHD, cancers, whatever, And so they also add as
an extra bonus to the synthetic vitamins all these other

(15:17):
things for basically no reason. And I tell the students
this is heavy, the one that you get off.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
The drug store shelf.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And doctors will tell you a lot of times when
they prescribe iron it doesn't work, I said, because basically
you have an entear coated frying pant that you're trying
to digest versus having the whole food. And I had
a patient and she was my friend as well, and
she had uterine cancer, so she was bleeding all the time,

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and she went to her oncologist. I had her take
this food iron three times a day and he goes,
I've never seen this before. You don't have anemia. How
can that be when you're bleeding so much? These iron
actually even works better because it's actually digested. And the
other thing is you really need vitamin C or some

(16:08):
type of acid to keylate that iron and bring it
into the blood. So they have foods high in vitamin
C as well in that product.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And I'm glad you mentioned vitamin C because I have
heard the ascorbic acid that is past is vitamin C
described as the envelope without a letter in it?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Would that be accurate?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And always kind of comes from coal tar So because
if you look in nature the things the man that
actually won the Nobel Prize, he was a Hungarian scientist
for extracting the ascorbic acid out of paprika pepper, So
peppers are very high, and we always hear vitamin and

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C is high and of course citrus, but actually I
believe it's higher in pepper. And anyhow he extracted, he
said it wouldn't help scurvy because it needs its bioflavonoids
to be absorbed. And those are things that you heard
about the bioflavonoids during COVID like quercetin and rootin and

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other things like that. So again I use whole food
Vitamin Sea which has peppers and acarolla cherries, but it
also has a drenal tissue and liver, because adrenal tissue
uses the most amount of vitamin C in the body.
So when we're under fight or flight, all of our

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vitamin C gets used up and the body has its
own consciousness, so it can only live one week. Probably
they never did a study on it, but they did
it on rabbits when they took the adrenal glands out,
they only could live one week. So without your adrenal function,
So you know you have a hierarchy, right, you gotta breathe.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You got your heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So the body is programmed that way to save itself.
And so what it'll do, because cortisol also destabilizes your
brain over time when it's high and it's it's supposed
to be high for why you're fighting the bear, but
then it's supposed to go down and crash and you sleep.

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So what vitamin C does it helps break down the cortisol.
When I did a lot of the service people that
came back after the golf War, and so they lost
a lot of things like this. One young man had
been hit like four times and his mother told me
he broke his wrist and the doctor said, well, we'll

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just fix the ligaments too, but they're gone. The ligaments
are gone because he's under fight or flight. So the
body has to find the vitamin C and that's in
collagen and elastin. Collagen is your biggest protein. And of
course it takes it from your eyes and all of
that those things first, because you can live without that.

(19:04):
It's not going to take it from your ligaments first.
But since it was a good supply, it must have
showed that up more or something like that. So it's
very fascinating. And that's why lipotore and the statin drugs
they use coq ten, which coq ten is the highest
amount is in your heart because it's an energy molecule

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and the heart uses the most energy. So I know,
one day I thought to myself, well, why don't more
people have heart attacks with this stuff? But then I'm like, oh, yeah,
the body has its own consciousness. It's eating up, it's
breaking down the muscle because it's in muscle mostly the
coq ten. It's breaking down the muscle in your thighs

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in order to get that coq ten to your heart.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
You know, I wish we could and I hope that
we do this switch. If we're going to move toward wellness,
we have to view the body. Even vitamin Let's just
take a vitamin, and we think of it as a thing.
But actually it's a system, right. We've got we've got
cholesterol with the hormone vitamin D that that you know converts,

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and you need magnesium and K two, and yet there
are so many different options and people don't know who
to trust. I get this question all the time. What
should we be looking for in our whole food? Maybe
we should start by defining what whole food means, because
it's not a diet. It's not a dogmatic kid of ore, carnivore,

(20:35):
paleo whatever. But what is actually whole food?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's the whole boot, so the whole apple, it's the
whole humeric tablet, not curcumin. Curcumin is a curcuminoid, which
there's three hundred in that plant. So it's very disturbing
to me because it is called curcuma long guys the
name of it that even in research that I read,

(21:04):
are they using curcumin the one thing or are they
using the whole tumeric? And they don't really say and
distinguish that in a lot of the literature. So that's
that's a problem because there's a reason that I'm a Christian,
that God put those in there, you know, and I

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you can never outdo God. And you know the amazing thing,
I have the PDR, which was the physician desk reference
of every product in nineteen seventy nine that was a
prescription drug. And Lily Pharmaceutical made a whole vitamin line
and the first thing it had in there was cow liver.

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And then it might add some of the extra chemical
to what they call those are called fortified vitamins where
they add a little extra folic acid or B six
or you know whatever. But for the most part, the animal,
even the plant, those are good. They're going to be
absorbed better, They're going to have all the factors and

(22:06):
all of that. But so I'm not negating that, but
it would it would say a whole food vitamin C
for a vegan. Let's say it might say peppers and
cherry aceola, cherries and and some kind of citrus in
there and by and citrus peel of the white part

(22:28):
is where the bioflavonoids are, and so it would have
probably all of those things in there. And for me,
I use the ones that have the animal tissues because
there was a big study like going back to the
methyl tetrahydrofol like they did in Europe. It looked like
it was somebody's dissertation. Actually it was a very long paper.

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And what they did they were looking for tetrahydro methl folate.
So they looked in mixed vegetables there was none. They
looked in oat flour, there was none. They looked in
milk with a tiny bit, but when they went to
a pig liver there was a whole bunch of it.
So yeah, so I.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Know, and we will direct our listeners to doctor Lynn
Lafferty dot com on that site. And I also want
to talk before we end about your webinar coming up.
Is there a list or is there a reference of
here's what we can be looking for if you're looking
for a whole food vitamin or even a rubric that

(23:27):
says do I need it? I know a lot of
people take handfuls of supplements and I don't like to
do that either. I try to do it with the
food that I eat. And maybe this is a good
parlay into checking ourselves, whether it's with blood markers or
whether it's how we're feeling or inflammation that we notice,

(23:50):
and that being having that direct us to any supplements
that we may take.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So one of thea you can see and people are
always saying to me, my whole food vitamin C. It
says sixteen milligrams of vitamin C on it.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Because the FDA.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
So what the FDA did back in the thirties, they
you know, this was a whole plan. They dumbed everything
down to the least common denominator. So they did the
same thing with vitamins and minerals. You know, we want
to have the one ingredient that's the vitamin not have
you know, have to have this big desiccated adrenal gland

(24:32):
let's sen So one of the ways you can see
is if it has a very high dose and it
says five hundred percent or something like that, because nature
is always going to give you what you need in
the form that you need it. And what they do
is they take a very high dose of one thing,

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and a lot of people with vitamin C.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
So people will come to me and say, well.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, you say this about vitamin C, but you
know I take high doses. I take two thousand milligrams
and it works for me. I don't have a coal
And I say, I'm sure it does, And why does
it work for them? What I believe is our digestive track.
And this is so important because our digestive track has
eighty to eighty five percent of our immune system, and it.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Has to be acid.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's two in your stomach, then it goes to five
point five in the upper gi all the way down
to six at the lower gi and your colon and
your bowl, your bowl, and so it's all all the way.
It's a city. And so by giving that high dose,
the SAD diet, the standard American diet is actually basic

(25:45):
to that, to the coalon. So you're giving high doses
of aspirin or I'm sorry of the ascorbic acid, and
you're now your bacteria, which play a big part, are
thriving down there because they love acid and the negative bacteria.
It's we went. I had a group of students and

(26:07):
we're going to talk about this in my free webinar
this Sunday. Because there isn't an autoimmune disease, I mean
the way they're describing it. You know. My first lesson
to my students, I say, okay, let's go to Harvard
and let's look up rheumatoid arthritis and it says, oh,
it causes all this pain and it just gets worse
and your joints fall apart. You know, all this stuff,

(26:28):
and it says, oh, and we have no idea, it's
an autoimmune we have no idea what causes it? Really okay, well,
let's go to our own medical library PubMed here, which
is an American database. Are the ones that is the
gold standard, and oh, there's four hundred studies. They tell
you the etiology meaning the cause of rumantoi earth race

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is your gut bacteria.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
So what we did was we.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Went through all the autoimmune disease and we found out
which bacteria. Sometimes their viruses, but we just went through
the bacteria for this lesson. We did. It took six
weeks where we found which went through all the studies,
found which bacteria causes what. And then I said, let's
go find what pH they thrive in. And they all

(27:16):
thrive in a basic seven or aboven and your yeast
thrive in a basic your vagina should be acidic. And
you know, actually one day I said, well let's look
up sprum. I wonder what pH they and they're basic
and that's why a lot of women get yeast infections
after they have sex.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
And that's why they used to.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
When I was young, they or I was in pharmacy
school in you know, nineteen eighty seventy nine, they were
telling us, oh, just use yogurt to pack it. You know,
of course you weren't playing yogurt not sweetened or just
use you know, the vinegar douche was the big thing
to make it acidic. And we make in our compounding

(28:02):
pharmacies we may work acid topository, which is the exact
pH that what your vagina should be.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So pH is everything.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You won't even hear natural practitioners talk about all of that,
but it's really it's really true, because all these people
are out there promoting drinking basic water, and it's not
a good thing unless you need your stomach to be
more basic, which actually most people need it to be
more acidic.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yes, I read recently that the cause of what we
think is good or reflux is not too much acid
but not enough acid.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Correct most of the time. That's right, and is also
as we age. So you know, let's say we're you know,
we're twenty, and we have a lot of stomach acid,
but we also have a lot of bycarb, right, and
so what happens as we age it goes down, but
actually the bycarb goes down more and becuse I thought

(29:01):
about this, Okay, we don't have enough asset, but people
do get relief from the proton pump inhibitors right for
at the beginning, and then if they try to take themselves.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Off without I take so many people.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
If anybody's been on those, the package inserts has more
than two, you shouldn't be on there for more than
two months unless you have something called Bart's esophagitis.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
That's even in their own literature.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So if you've been on there for eight years or something,
you really need to get yourself off from that. They
cause everything from more broken bones to Alzheimer's and stuff.
So you just really don't want to be on these.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And so just so we're clear, you mean a proton
pump inhibitor is like a zantac or a tagament or
those are h two blockers.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I me, you probably shouldn't be on those as long.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
But there it's like a nexium or a meprazol or
prili sec or those. Yeah, But what it does is
so when you lower it, you're putting it in equilibrium,
but you still don't have enough stomach acid to break
down that steak. So what you need to do is

(30:14):
take digestive enzyme.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So I'm glad you bring up the acid versus base
the environment in our bodies because I know we need
an acidic digestive track. But you do hear that chronic diseases, cancer,
for instance, can't survive in an alkaline environment. Is that accurate?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I don't really know if that's accurate or not. Okay,
I know they do feed off sugar for sure, and
it probably does become acidic down there. But you know,
like with every disease, the diseases are well, I want
to say no really, because I'll tell you why. No
disease is caused by the same thing. That's another lessons

(31:00):
for my students. I know, we can have five people
that were treating for high blood pressure and guess what,
They're all going to get the same drug to start
off with. But this person might have theochromocytoma, which is
a tumor on your adrenal blend. Or another person may
have had a head injury in their pituitary is now dysfunctional.

(31:22):
Another person could have clogged blood vessels. Another person drives
in Miami at eight o'clock in the morning an hour,
you know, and it's stressed out. So no two people
are alike. Now where drugs come in wonderfully. So I'm
not against drugs, is you know, if somebody has really
high blood pressure and comes in my office, I'm not
going to think, oh, are you makingnesium defision or are

(31:45):
you this? Or could it be that. I'm going to
send them to the doctor to get them on a
drug so they don't have a stroke. But then that's
where integrated messine comes in, is let's see what you're doing,
and it's about the changes you have to make. I
can help you. The supplements can help you to help
you make those changes. Because I have so many doctors

(32:07):
sending me patients to get the people off the proton
pump inhibitor, but I have to have them stabilized on
some kind of digestive enzyme, and a lot of times
I'll use I'll get a prescription for them of the
proton pump inhibitor in it had the compounding pharmacy make

(32:27):
it so it's a solution so they.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Can very gently.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
It took me one time two years to get one
lady that had been on for twelve years off altogether
her proton pump inhibitor. So you do it just very
judiciously while you're getting the digestive enzyme so they don't
have that reflux. And putting them also on gel of
alo vera, you know, and put it in the refrigerator,

(32:54):
because they sometimes get like that. They'll get the rebound asset,
which is worse than the original acid they had from
the wh if you stop on willy nilly and I
use that because that really sues and cools down all
of the potential for that the alo Vera does.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, the gel, the gel, that's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah. I like the organic brand. They have it at Walmart.
It's pretty inexpensive. We have a great brand here called Stockton,
but it's fifty dollars and I don't think they ship
it out of Florida because it's so expensive.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's frozen to ship.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
But it's a specialized type of alo It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, Doctor Laffertye. Why when we talk about certain things,
whether it's a treatment, whether it's additives, all of this thing,
we can look at the world and we can say
Europe does not allow glc esates. For instance, they don't
spray their wheat. That's what everyone says. And you know, hey,

(34:00):
I go to Italy, I eat pasta and bread, and
I'm fine, what is the mechanism or the group or
I mean, I can go to corruption, that's my go to.
How did we end up allowing ourselves to be poisoned?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
So your show is everything's political, which you're one hundred
percent right, but also everything spiritual, because I really don't
even know if these people are human. You know, you've
probably seen Seventh Generation is a laundry detergent or something.
They sell it at Whole Foods. By the way, I

(34:36):
make no money promoting any product, but that name comes
from the fact that the Native of American said, never
do anything into your environment that's going to hurt seven
generations ahead. And for these well to allow these things
into and love putting them in, it has to be spiritual.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Are they human? Are they drunk a lot?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I don't know. I mean it's mind boggling to me
because you love your children. I mean that's the natural
way that God promoted women to have something called oxytocin
when they get after they have the baby, because it's
like the love molecule to bond and love that child.

(35:27):
You know, I just can't even imagine what is in
these people that they do this.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Because there's no reason for it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Like you say, fruit loops. If you go to England,
it says cherry deuce and all of this, and ours
has red dye number four and yellow number three and stuff.
So I don't know. I think it's spiritual.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, I think that's a great point. You know, just
like in any chronic disease, you could probably trace it
back to a deficiency right in the body. And I
think I think a lot of these people just have
a deficiency of Almighty God and and and this is
why I'm excited about Bobby's confirmation is that a he

(36:11):
walks his talk and has for a very long time
at a very high cost. He calls that the you know,
the vaccine fight the worst career decision he ever made,
which is hysterical.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm obviously personal because a lot of his family have
come out really hard against.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yes one percent. Although I will say this, Maria Shriver
quote tweeted Caroline's you know, scathing letter or whatever it
was and talked about courage, but then turned off the comments. So,
you know, the inconsistency reigns with these folks. But I
am excited to get someone who I believe genuinely has

(36:51):
the best interest in wellness and moving things toward wellness.
I feel like we don't have a system of healthcare.
I feel like it's a system of death care, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
And it's just stealing as much of our resources we
call it money, but as much of our resources against us,
you know. I see it in the medical school. I
feel so bad for these kids. They're getting no education.
And a lot of them come to me. They know it.
They go, you know, I just spent twenty five years
of my life studying my butt off, spend a million

(37:24):
dollars and I don't know anything. Or I worked with
a group of psychiatry residents and we were doing a
mindfulness I was teaching them mindfulness and the first question
I asked, I go, what does it feel like when
you walk in the door. And the first girl said,
I feel like I'm going to kill somebody with these drugs.
I don't even know what they do. And they all

(37:46):
said that, So imagine that you've just you know, you
have this desire. Really most of them, some go in
for money and prestige. But for the most of them,
they really want to go in and help people. And
you're spending all your time and all your life, and
then you come out and all you know is what

(38:06):
the pharmaceutical companies have put in this curriculum. And people also,
they'll get really mad at the doctors. They'll say, oh,
they go on these golf trips, and oh, not anymore.
They don't have to. They somehow bought off the curriculum
people at the top, and they put these courses in
where they don't understand medical physiology.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I almost started crying.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I was listening to this one resident I was teaching
last week, and he was saying to this other doctor
who was trying to get his child in medical school,
but he didn't really want to take biochemistry.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And he said, oh, he should go to such and
such school.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I didn't even need biochemistry, and he was proud that
he didn't need to.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Know how the body worked chemically.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean, so, it's such a sad state of what
people are in and then they give them biggie goes,
you know, so that oh I went to Harvard and
these doctors that I learned from were the best.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's really a travesty because the whole the faith in
the whole system depletes, much like you know, and I
was red pilled decades ago on politics. Just like if
someone says the honorable so and so, I mean that
to me is the opposite when I see that, Like, no,
you're honorable if you honor your oath and do what

(39:30):
you said you were going to do in toward the
end of that oath, which is to keep us free,
to weigh our own risk, to own our own healthcare,
our own wellness, et cetera. It's frustrating. I saw the
I don't know if you've seen the clip of the
young singer Avery. I'm not familiar with her, but she
is has to be in her twenties, very young, and

(39:54):
she is breaking down on camera because she went on
OZMP for a year and she was just diagnosed with
osteoporosis osteopina if I'm accurately pronouncing that, but obviously bone
density issues. And I mean she's in her twenties and

(40:18):
she realizes now that she has just destroyed her body.
You know, I don't know where to go with that doctor,
because you know, at firsthand, I think, well, doesn't that
wouldn't that doctor say, hey, let's try this first.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
People don't even know how. They don't even read packaging inserts.
They don't even have journal club anymore where they have
to learn to read journals. I mean when I went
to school, I took two years of biochemistry a year
of physiology. When I walked in University of Georgia Pharmacy school,
they said, look to the left, look to the right.
One of you'll be plunked out. And we're like, really,

(40:54):
we've got three point seven averages and calculus and physics
to get in here in organic chemistry. But my physiology
professor flunked a third of the class out. There were
three of us that lived together, and one of the
girls she tried three times. You got three chances to
pass a course if you missed, and three times she

(41:16):
flunked it. Because my teacher taught us that the body
is logical and how the one system affects the other.
I was telling because I have to find like functional cardiologists.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And things like that for my patient.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
So I was telling this functional cardiologist from Miami, who
actually is a cardiologist at the best cardiology hospital in
the South in Miami, and on the weekends he's a
hospitalist cardiologist, but on the weekdays he does zoom meetings

(41:52):
and does the functional cardiology.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
And I said, you know, my.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Teacher asked this question if you have Addison's which means
a low adrenal output, which will mean low salt, low sodium,
high potassium. I didn't tell him that part, but what
happens to the QRS wave in your heart? And he's like,
you were asked that when you were like twenty in

(42:17):
pharmacy school. I said yeah, And I said, you know,
I'm not sure I got it right. But what I
do know is anybody that ever comes to me and
says I'm having an ablasian, I have a fib or whatever,
I said, let's trust the adrenal gland. And one of
my friends who was a manager at a CBS pharmacy

(42:38):
and loss of stress, and I said to him, let's
test your adrenals. And the cortisol was so high that
they didn't even couldn't even measure it. When it's high,
went straight across. Your cort is all supposed to go
like this. It went straight across and it was at
maximum that they measure, and I gave on fossil title
seering and whole food vitamin C brings it down and

(43:01):
brought it down and he said, oh, I don't my
heart is not doing this anymore. But he said, I'm
going to go get the ablacion anyway. I said, oh, please,
don't do that, please, Well you don't need it. No,
I'm going to go get it. Well, the doctor botched it.
He handed up in the ICU at a hospital and
then he got out of the hospital. Then he was

(43:22):
put on all this medicine and within one year he died.
And he was only fifty years old. So he went
from being this really very very fit. He went to
the gym almost every day, and he had such a
positive attitude about life to dying.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
And it's so sad.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
And in the literature, if you put a drenal an
a FIB, it'll say, yes, cortisol and the epinephrine are
causes of a fib, and let's look at that first
before they put you on these blood thinners and want
to do cut your per hingy fibers, you know, or
burn them.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
So yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. And I and
you can almost you know, point to the trajectory of
someone that starts down a path, whether it's a statin.
I mean, statins have crippled and caused neurological decline, and
so many older people that I know, and then people

(44:23):
who are my age, you know, telling me then oh,
my doctor put me on a statin, and you know
you and you share the information to the best of
your ability. But I think we're at a crux. We're
almost at the tipping point, and unfortunately I think it's
gen x. We're going to be the guinea pigs right

(44:45):
because I don't trust a lot of doctors anymore than
I would trust a politician. Where would you advise people
to go if you know, if I'm sick, I'm calling you.
Where can people go to find someone that is as
knowledgeable as you that understand? Is there a network?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Well, I recommend going to the older doctors. You know,
I'm sixty six so or I will be next week.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So I was fantastic, By the way, thank you because.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
You got to feed your good food, you know, salmon,
sakky eyed salmon that makes my kid so soft, and
you have thank you. But and you can see I
can move my you know, I can move, so I
haven't been shot up with any votulism toxic. I found

(45:38):
I had the pharmacology book from nineteen. It was written
in nineteen, published in nineteen seventy six, and I found
my notes, and I have a big note that says
botulism talksin is the most dangerous toxin in the world.
And I said, imagine if my nineteen and my twenty
twenty self went to myself, and when I'm sitting there

(46:00):
and going hey, and by the way, they're going to
be shooting that in their face when they're twenty so
they don't have a wrinkle, I would be like, you're crazy,
get out of here. Nobody would do.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It's toxic, and I'm seeing that detriment.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I used to have these two sisters that were in
their sixties and I said, listen, I get you balanced out,
and then you go shoot that stuff in your face,
and then you come back to me sick again.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
And to the point where I just gave up.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I said, you know what, I try this doctor, because
I don't have anything else for you. I don't, you know.
And I see these people and they look I remember
this one TV, so.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I forgot what I saw.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
And I always thought she was like fifty with botox
in her face, and then when she said, oh I'm
twenty eight, I'm like, holy kle, you're making yourself look
fifty like a boat. And then all of those Kardashians
having it in their face. Yeah. Everything just it's just
one big commercial of trying to get people to say,

(47:04):
you know, wrinkles are beautiful. And the cholesterol information, a
lot of it is not even true. The largest study
in the history of the world is called Framingham and
it says in there and the man that was the
head of cardiology at Yale, who is the head of
framing Ham for different part different years, said women with

(47:25):
two thirty to two sixty cholesterol have fewer heart attacks
and stroggles lower And we used bile salts, which is
cow from a cow, their bile, because that is what
lowers your cholesterol in your body.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
And a lot of times it's just that.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Your bile deficient. And it still works because I still
use that to lower people's cholesterol.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
They want.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Garlic lowers your cholesterol, fetigrade lower's cholesterol. So there's so
many things you can do if you want to lower your.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Cholesterol well, and you also have to figure out what
is caused saying the overproduction of LDL. Right, I mean,
I don't know if this is accurate or I'm explaining
it the right way. LDL is actually the transport system.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, there's one type of LDL that's been implicated in
heart disease. When you look in the literature basically what
people are worried about, I'm going to have a heart
attacker stroke. Right. When you look in the literature for that,
you find that HDL has the most literature, and it
tells you the higher HDL actually protects you from getting

(48:31):
heart attacks. So you want that to me in lowering
your I think your triglycerides, because that is the sugar
and can cause the thecation and the damages. Those are
the two things I look at. And then there's one
type of LDL. They some doctors do it. There's seven

(48:52):
different types and you can see if you have that
one type that's high.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
And so is that a marker on blood work that
you look at the triglycerides or the fasting glucose or
I mean, do you have but I'll tell.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
You more important than the glucose. I do a salida
test and I like to look at the insulin because
when I got out of school, I had two patients
with type two diabetes and they were both in their seventies.
No one my age had tyto diabetes or any autoimmune condition.
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I did know one kid when I was little that.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Had siliac, but other than that, I didn't know anybody
that had any of these diseases. So now I have,
you know, thirty year olds twenty five come in with
MSS with rumatoid arthrite. The reason I got my job
a two year old when she was two she got
diagnosis rumatoridathritis. So I always started when she came to

(49:52):
see me. She was two when she was diagnosed, age
ten pregnant, zone was given so much she had bleeding ulcers.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Time.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
At fifteen, she had a tumor the size of a
grapefruit from Metho truck shake and Yumera, and both of
those say they can cause cancer. Thank god it was
in cancer was just benign. And at seventeen when she
saw me, her wrists and her shoulder had fused together
and she could hardly walk. And eight months later she

(50:22):
came to this university that I got. I'm a dow
professor and they said, what happened to you? I didn't
even know she came here because I was an adjunct
faculty at the time. And she said, oh, look, I
can do jumping jacks now I don't have rheumatoria arthrias anymore.
And they're like, do you think your doctor would come

(50:43):
and do grand rounds? And so the two of us
did grand rounds together, and even from nineteen seventies they
had publications that implicated gut bacteria. And then my boss
at the time no I had a new boss coming.
She's older than me, and she said that in the

(51:05):
seventies she was a pathologist, and she said, we used
to could do all sorts of cool things. We used
to punch biopsy the nodules. She goes, linn, there's all
sorts of bacteria down there. And the people that get
the autoimmune diseases are mostly women over fifty were the
ones who got all that. And the reason they got

(51:26):
it is because your hormones play such a huge role
in the immune system. And that's why they give pregmozone
because premozone is cortisol cortisol.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
But what they do they take.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Your own cortisol structure and then they might add a
chlorine on it, or a or a methyl group or something,
and then they call it methyl pregnis alone or whatever
that's but it's it wouldn't work in the body if
it didn't hit a receptor that was in the body,
and it thinks it's the cortisol from your own body.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
So they told me at this point when I.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
First started, don't use desiccated adrenal, which I used so
much of it. But my doctor when I was a kid,
when we were sick, he always gave us a shot
of testicated a drenal tissue. And I remember when I
was little, if I got sick, I'd go to my mom,
Can I go get a shot?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Because it made you feel so that, Could I go
get a shot from doctor Trink I didn't know what
it was, and he'd give us liquorice tablets. Well, licorice
kills so many bacteria, h pylori, it kills, covid, all
of these things, and he knew this. He graduated in
eighteen ninety seven and had Sigmund Freud as a professor.

(52:45):
So when I was little, he was in his eighties
and he was old. But you always felt better from him.
So the older doctors had all this wisdom. But what's
happening today. I find with the younger people getting the
auto immune diseases, they've all been on antibiotics as kids.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Oh yeah, I had chronic ear infections.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I'm probably had an antibiotic for five years of my
life every other month or yeah, I lost my tonsils
and up till the point, I was always sick and
had antibiotics all the time. You know, so the antibiotics
destroyed the good bacteria in the gut, which also fight
off the bad bacteria. And may also I never looked

(53:29):
at this change the pH. Probably, I don't know that
it does that. I'm not going to say it does,
but I would. I would guess it probably changes it
into a more negative pH too.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
That makes so much sense. So I have two questions.
Number One, after your treatment or work with this two
year old that came to you and then they are seventeen.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
She was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
She was seventeen.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Sorry, yeah, And the thing when I started my presentation,
I said, okay, how many of you in this audience
believe that two years old? Her her body said, you
know what, I just don't really like those joints. I'm
just going to go attack him and make it my
life miserable. How many do you think that's what the

(54:12):
body does And all of a sudden like this light bulb. No,
I don't think the body does that. And the older doctors.
I had an older doctor. Just one last point. I
had an older doctor come in here that I'm very
good friends with because it's rheumato. He's a rheumatologist. He
actually sends me all the patients said don't take drugs.
He sends them to me, and he says, don't cure

(54:33):
everyone save me.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
But anyway, he.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Said, oh, I'm here getting my shingles shot. Are you
getting a shinos shot? I looked no.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
He said why not? I said, he's my age.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I said, Mark, let's take you back when you were
thirty or thirty five. I said, if someone had shingles,
what did you think, And he goes, oh, always would
be worried they had cancer. I go, yeah, I never
saw anybody with shingles. Maybe an eighty year old would
get it, but I never You don't see anybody with

(55:09):
shingles who aren't immune compromised. Now, all these people getting
the shingle shot. My nephew and his wife are in
their twenties and have shingles. Yeah, that's oh no, I'm
not getting the shingles shot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I get into discussions that the main ones that I
have with others and only because they ask me, are
the statins and shingles, those that in the shingle shot.
And of course, to your point, the immune system lowers
when the gut bacteria is compromised.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
There's all these what I call natural immune builders, and
they do the b cells in your body. They make
antibodies when they're exposed to something. So when you take
their certain type of mushrooms or different plants and they
all work differently and animal tissue, that will greatly increase

(56:06):
when you get sick those immune factors.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
So literally the.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Vaccine isn't stopping you from getting it. What it's doing
is when you're exposed to it, it's recognizing it and
you're hoping that it's strong enough to go in and
take that coronavirus or that influenza virus out. That's why

(56:32):
they put the aluminum adveraget in, because the more inflammation
you have, the more factors you're gonna get that really
got hit bad, horrible, to the point where she fell
down because she couldn't walk. And it wasn't Gillian Bray,

(56:53):
thank god, with the high dose because she's sixty five.
They give you the high dose blue vaccine and that inflammation.
Her whole body went into inflammation and she ended up
having to have a big spinal surgery because of it.
And it wasn't it was because the vaccine. Actually, it
kind of was a good thing for her because she

(57:14):
had this stenosis inner back, which is a narrowing of it,
and her spinal cord now is hitting that and they
had to go in and do surgery right away because
you lose so when the spinal cord hits the bone
of your cage, your spinal cage there. So anyway, but yeah,
so that's what they're trying to do with the HD vaccines.

(57:37):
They give you a high dose of it so that
you'll get more inflammation and it'll be stronger.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
But you know what, I didn't have COVID. I took zinc.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
And my immune builders and then for two years I
didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
So I started giving that stuff away.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
People get sick, and I give it even when you're sick,
you should take the vitamin D in the zinc And
so I got it, but it only lasted a day.
I took my aldaberry and I took my immune builder,
and it was I had it for a day.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
To your point, anyone can act I think, to any
virus or medication. You know, we're all going to act
differently because we're all different. What seemed to be the
theme with spike, whether it was encountered from the labor
or in the shot, was that it seems to find

(58:31):
an exploit or create a weakness. So if you had
a weakness already existing in your body, that at least
the reports and that's just completely anecdotal. You know, if
you had some issue before you got the shot, it
was exacerbated afterwards. And same with the virus, but the

(58:51):
body seemed to clear it out to that degree. And
I just and I wanted to circle back to the
seventeen year old and you you know, after she was
improving and you were asked to do grand rounds, do
you think that you would be asked to do those today?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Oh? No, yeah, that the rheumatologist I told you, he
actually now is chief of medicine and he had me
present on all the natural anti inflammatories, and he gave
me the best letter I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
He's a very open.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Person because he was a cardiologist, and he actually took
four years off to be with his kids when they
were in high school, just because he had he was
so busy when they were growing up and everything. So
he did that, and he wrote a nutrition book on
heart nutrition and for teenagers nutrition, and so you know,

(59:46):
he's more out of the box thinking. I guess, I
don't even want to call it out a box. He's
more national thinking logic.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yes, interesting, Yeah, so no, he gave me the most
amazing and all of those internal medicine doctors were very
interested in that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
But you know there's some I was friends with the
chief of medicine before, and he helped me come in
here even and I said to him, he said, well,
you know, you have to look at the literature.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I said, well, just because you haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Read the seven thousand studies on to American inflammation doesn't
mean they don't exist. It means that you've never pointed
anybody to look at those for you, or for you
to look at it. So I said, there's in the
whole adage. Oh, there's no research on this. There is
research on it, I said to doctor latipowe Here. I said,

(01:00:42):
you know, I said, if I went in, the first
thing I really would love to do in the government
is to get a supercomputer to look at is there
any difference in an end of ten patients, a thousand
patients or ten thousand patients, because the only people that
can afford they say there's this big difference. And I

(01:01:03):
don't even like the statistics that they have. The way
they process it, I think is total bs, I said.
And I said, what difference does it make if nine
people get healed, nine hundred get healed, or nine thousand,
ninety nine get healed. It's there is no variance of that,
I said. And so he started looking at older studies.

(01:01:25):
He goes, wow, there was only thirty five people. I said, yeah,
because the pharmaceutical companies weren't trillionaires. They got five dollars
for their drugs. Not you know, there's one drug two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a dose for RA and
that same ingredient that's in that is in my little

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pill of anterior pituitary duangel or I have and those
pills each are probably I don't know, forty nine cents sorts.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Wow, unbelievable. You know, when I hear you talk about
autoimmune I think of evolution. Oh, two bacteria got hit
with lightning in a mud puddle and out we crawled.
And when you were talking about do you think that
the immune system just woke up one May and said
I am going to attack my heart. I'm going to
attack my thyroid. What would your advice be to someone

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that's been diagnosed with autoimmune.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
To take my course and come to the I have
a course that I have online. I have free courses
on the immune system with one of the internal Mussin
doctors I work with. That's in the book one hundred
Bust Doctors in America, And there's other free courses also

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on there. And then I have a course and by
the end of the course, honestly and mostly it's women,
of course, they take it. And it's twenty it's ten sessions,
twenty hours of information. You get booklets on how to
prepare your own herbal remedy. You get booklets on food,
all the foods, and you also get refrigerator lists like

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you want vitamin more vitamin A in your diet. You
put it on your refrigerator and you can see all
the foods that are high in vitamin A or vitamin
D or whatever. So all of that is included. You
get other videos of me and my kitchen making different
recipes at different types, using different equipment like a juicer

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or a mixer or whatever, blender, and I made it
very inexpensive. If it's one hundred and fifty dollars, and
if you put hero in because you're a hero, you
get another twenty five dollars off from that course. So
I'm doing that because I want people to empower themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Listening to CNN watching the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Clock at death, wait a minute, No matter what, whether
it's chemotherapy, antibiotics, or whatever, it's your body ultimately that
heals you. Maybe it kills some of that tumor so
the body can work better. Maybe it kills some of
those batteria off so the body can its own immune

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system can work better.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
But it's your own immune system.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It's always your own immune system that's going to save
your life. It's not the drugs they're gonna help, but
it's your own immune system. And the most important thing
is building that up, then you don't have to worry
about all the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Empower empower our own immune systems. And that's at doctor
Lynnlafferty dot com and I so appreciate your time today.
I have one last question before we break. I've gotten
a lot of emails about the recent news of alternative
therapies for cancer with the anti parasitics be it Ivermected,

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fenn Ben or men Bend does all I know doctor
Pierre Corey, They and Paul Merrick have a have a
new group where they're studying cancer as a metabolic issue
versus an actual cell issue. And I've not gone down
that rabbit hole, but I do know that it is again.
I feel like we're on the tipping point of maybe
new things emerging. What is your opinion on that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
My opinion is I went to the literature and I
you know, because I was hearing that, and sure enough,
they did reduce cancer in some people. But it goes
back again to what you and I first started with.
Not everybody they can call it bleoblastoma, I guess, but
not everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
It's not from the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And everybody I found where cardiac glycosides actually are killing
viruses and killing cancer. And I remember the NIH put
a lot of money back in the seventies that cancer
was caused by viruses.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Then they said, oh no, no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
To look at here, which probably means, yeah, a lot
of them are caused you can buy more. A lot
of them are caused.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
By viruses, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
So so it may work for you, you know, it
may not work for you. It may be, for instance,
you're hitting getting hit because you're working with some toxic
chemical that's a carcinogen every day.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
It could be from that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
It could be that your immune system is decimated because
you're taking a bunch of drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
So you can't say it's from I don't think you
can say cancers from one thing. But you know what,
those drugs don't hurt you, So why not try it?
I've thought, and I'm gonna I need to call my doctor.
I want to get a one hundred of the lowest
dose of digitablus to take it for a virus, because

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it says it kills every virus and the ones that
are caused. It looks like Leo's blastoma, for instance, is
caused by a virus. I met a group of people.
They were doing lots of studies at good universities on
a homeopathic, because the pills of digitalis you get are
almost a homeopathic, they're so low because they it is

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a poisonous plant. So I don't ever try to make
because I teach people how to make some of their
own formulas, but you don't want to try it with these.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
With these plants.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
And then it was a homeopathic of oleander, and which
is oleander, and they had said that, yeah, they were
having amazing results on bleoblastoma with that product. And this
time I got sick over Christmas and a lot of
people I went to New York and the people I
went with, they were sick for a week. I got

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sick for a day and I did. I took my elderberry,
but also took my which has a cardiac like aside
in it too, as does hydroxychloroquin not as potent probably
as the oleander and the digitalis. But I took the
online the homeopathic of the only end or, so that

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may have been a big help too. But the one
that they were studying, the FDA made them stop bringing
it into this country. So hopefully there's a lot of
things like that that'll be immediately or pretty quickly changed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Well, and I appreciate your response to that, and I
think that's the point. You know, nothing is necessarily a
silver bullet for the general population, because we're all so different.
We should have the freedom to try without our government
or three letter agencies shutting down those options. And I
remember in goodness, late seventies or eighties, and I didn't

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come to understand or or see the videos until probably
the nineties, but Stanislav Berzinski had a breakthrough treatment anti
neo clast in therapy for the blastoma, I believe, and boy,
they shut him down. They rated his office the FD

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because he wasn't he didn't give him the patent right.
So that to me, that was the beginning of my
red pilling on the healthcare And you know, hopefully to
your point, Bobby will open that those options up and
at least open up the transparency of any patterns that

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emerge that show this works for generally here. But again,
we should all have the right to try.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
The thing is is, like I've said, it's from different reasons.
Uh so, but you know what, not one medical student
would tell you that because they're programming them with it's
caused by this, and this drug is what you're going
to give. You know, that's basically what they're they're programmed with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
They're taught to check a box, right, ask questions and checkboxes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
And they took anatomy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I was getting my injected yesterday with PRP, which is
my own protein, which has my own healing factors to
heal my knee, and they I said, you know, they
don't take a name.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
They're like telling me the difference. I'm like, oh, is
that that nerve? They go, yeah, it's blah blah blah nerve.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
And that's what I never was great at remembering every
single thing in anatomy. But anyway, I said, you know,
they took anatomy out and they're like, yeah, I know,
out of the curriculum. It's horrible. The doctors were saying that,
So why would a doctor? I said, well, why would
a doctor need to know that about different nerves? And

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I would tell you how the body works chemic, biochemically
or physiologically.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You know, just shut shut the front door and do
what we tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
And and and then we're going you've got that million dollar,
You got that million dollar debt that we won't let
you go back, so you're forced to work. You know,
that's what Obamacare did. It just it just was the
total corporate takeover of the doctors of our whole medical system.

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So now they all have to go work for corporations.
And they're told they can't even give magnesium to patients
at some of the hospital systems, you know, it's too dangerous.
Only the cardiologists may touch that. And the cardiologist my
brother had, who was all Ivy League educated, didn't even
understand magnesium.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
You know, I said when when fed ED was so pervasive.
You know, we've turned teachers and doctors into box checkers
and administrators or and doctrinators. So where are the people
to go for health care and education? And the answer
has always been ourselves, And so toward that end, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Tell us the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
You're amen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Amen, Well, and I appreciate doctor Lyn Lafferty doctor Lynlafferty
dot com. I so appreciate being on again with us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I hope your people will come to the free webinar
on Sunday. Just go to my web, myweb doctor Lynlofferty
dot com and just clicking on the button and you'll
register and we'll be sending you a link.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
On Sunday how to get on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
So we look forward to seeing everyone and you also,
and they can ask questions afterwards about their health, so
their own health.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
And I'll try to answer as many as I can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Fantastic. Well, we'll continue to encourage people to see that,
and can't wait to see what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Of course I teach you how to read medical literature
and how to investigate these things yourself, because all you
really have to do is you put Google scholarly and
it will bring you to a lot, not as much
as I have access to, but it'll bring you to
the PubMed I like Science Direct because they're from Europe
and they don't have the political bias that PubMed does

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with all the pharmaceutical and they use studies from China
and India and from Germany where herbs our prescription medicine,
so all of these great studies from other countries. If
you put wormatroidath rice and gut back here, I think
like forty seven hundred studies pop up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
And now so yeah, wow, okay, well I'm looking forward
to that and again can't thank you enough until I
hope you'll come back and we'll always talk about amazing
things until then, God speed. Thank you, doctor Lynn Lafferty. Everyone, Wow, Joe,

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wouldn't you like to see her in the new administration? Okay,
I want to thank everyone for listening. Thanks as always
to magic Man Joe Strecker. Until next time, who will
stand at either hand and keep the bridge with me?
Have a great day.