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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, I like connecting with people. You know, that's
why I have the show. This show has went on
for almost ten years, Extra Connections, and I was I
had awards for the show too, because it's all about
meeting people from all corners of the globe and all
parts of America. And this person I saw him because
he featured two people that are on our network and
(00:25):
we'll talk about that in a second for his his podcast.
But then I heard his name, his stage name, and
you know, folks are on how we do like a
good Ginger, all about Gingers. That's all that's my life.
And when he said his stage name was Red Velvet,
I was in. I was in. He has a YouTube channel.
(00:45):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you lots of videos. Check
those out seriously, that podcast. But you know where he's from.
Not Los Angeles, not New York, not Chicago, not Atlanta,
not doing He's from Brazil. Indiana, Yeah, small Italian Indiana
and Western Indiana, which, as you guys know, I'm doing
a lot of collaborations from there now, from Clinton and
(01:07):
Dana and all was over there. So I was like,
I gotta talk to you. He looks like he actually
eats real food like I do. I'm tired of these
people in California. We eat real food. He's a big
boy like me. His podcast is called The Diner Podcasts.
It's Evan Moore. I Evan, we do And that was
quite an intro.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I love it. Yes, I am Evan Moore, also known
as Red Velvet. And trust me, if you want to
know the backstory, I do.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's that. Don't get to get your talking. I want
to know.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, So we're gonna let's let's let's go to
the very beginning because you I guarantee you want to
hear the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I grew up as a shy child, very shy. Oh wow,
I know. I was a skinny I was a skinny kid.
I was a runt. My my brother was seven years
older than me. They used to beat the crap out
of me, you know, older brothers things. But but he
was a lot bigger than me. So shy kid up
until I hit high school and then I'm just like,
you know what, let's just let's just have some fun.
So I started coming out of the shell and then
(02:06):
it got a little more. Then college hit. So we
get to college, I'm almost all the way out of
my shell. We get to we're at a college party,
you know, broke college kids going to college party. I
had some buddies come up to me and they were
pretty I was pretty fat, you know. By that time,
I gained the freshman forty five pounds. I exceeded at
the fifteen, blew it out of the water, and we
(02:28):
got the forty five. So I went from one hundred
and ninety five pounds to two hundred and forty if
my math correct, two forty two forty five kind of plump.
That was in three months. Mind. Jud We were sitting
there at the Commons and my two my two muscular
buddies walked up like, hey, what do you guys doing
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Friday night? And I'm like, nothing, man, what we were doing?
He goes because I'm always down to I'm always down
to go. And they're like, well, we got this party.
These girls are throwing I'm like okay. They're like they
need some entertainment, and I go entertainment. We we're gonna dance.
They're like, yeah, entertainment. They're like, we got me and
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this guy your muscular, and we're gonna bring you in.
This other fat guy and it's like comedic relief. I'm like, deal,
I said, a man, I go, what's it pay? And
they say a thirty pack of bush Light. I go,
that works for me. You know, I was poor. It
didn't matter. So the first thing, instead of like a
danc routine or anything, I'm like, I need a name.
I need a name. And at that time, Robin Big
was real popular in MTV and the Big Black Stripping
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episode just aired not too long ago, and he was
black lavender and I go, he goes, he's black lavender.
I'm gonna be red velvet.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm read good.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I like that. That's good.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wow, that's the that's the name.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Rest in peace. Yes, he's not around anymore. It's so sad.
I was really sad. But when I heard he died,
I was always sad. Oh yeah, I was like, that's
what he's sad. They had a good thing going. They
had a really good thing going. So that's what I read. Okay,
I said, okay, So so the questions are you are
you velvety smooth?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm always velvety smooth baby, I'm like the velvet rope,
you know, I'm a smooth talk I like Sam smooth talking.
My wife, I got no game. How I got my wife?
Was she? She didn't know me my way from Tampa,
so she yeah, she moved up here and not for me,
she moved here for her job. And uh then we
met and uh apparently she must have dug me because
(04:29):
I had no game. I got dude. So if a
girl wants to send me like a girl, I couldn't
pick up signals. You gotta be blunted, like hey, I
like you, okay, Like I gotta have the dude, like
on the runway with the lightsabers, kind.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of like this way, this way, this way.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I'm still that way with my wife because she
like drops subtle hints and I'm like, yeah, I don't
know what you're talking about. You just gotta just tell me.
Just so, shout out to my wife for being a saint,
for doing like ninety nine percent of the lifting in
this relationship, because I just I'm just just clueless going
through life here.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh god, yes, Oh, shout to her. Shout to her.
What's your name? Yeah, Jasmine, that's go on, Jasmine. We're
on your side, Jasmin.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's right, exactly exactly well, and as you you say
Brazil Indiana. People are all like every time I messed
with somebody, I'm like, yeah, I'm from Brazil, and they
look at me, They're like, what, you're from Brazil. I'm like, yeah, man,
I'm from Brazil. Brazil on the end of that is
you know, right, a big town, thriving metropolis of about
six to eight thousand people. You know, it's a it's
(05:32):
a huge place. But I have I have another funny
story about my my family. We got married, My wife
and I got married. My brother in law flew up
with his wife at the time. She was actually from Brazil.
Oh look at that, you both got Brazilians. Of course
you got the knock off. I apologize. So, yeah, it
(05:54):
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I love you Brazilian in Brazil Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, and it was snowing when they got here. She
was not a fan.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah. We got married on Friday the thirteenth in twenty thirteenth. Yeah,
we broke all the rules that you know that you know,
we saw each other for the wedding and this because
I wanted to party. I don't want to sit here
for two or three hours take pictures. Let's just skip
the wed and go to the party. We I mean
we had all this food I didn't get to eat.
You know, we paid all this money for THISNS buffet
(06:24):
and I got to eat a path of plate. It
was all I mean, it was fun. I almost sayd
it was off with fun, but it just you know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I love it. Oh, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, this is what happened on my podcast. We go
down rabbit holes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I love rabbit holes. I'm a random guy. I love it.
But I wanted you want to ask you though, because
I've never been shied, so I don't have that problem.
I've never been aside. So I but for somebody. You said,
for you, you made it. You made a decision. So
it's back to like mindset stuff. You made a decision
to work out of your shell. How hard was that?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Terrifying? It was absolutely terrifying because you're putting yourself out there,
you know. Like I was a kind of a wacky
kid in the close circle. Like when I went to school,
I was quiet as a church mouse. You didn't hear a
single word. You didn't hear peep. I wouldn't have said
poo if I had a mouthful of it. So it
was like I didn't. So when I edged out, especially
going from high school, like you're a freshman dude, Like,
(07:23):
why did I pick that time? Don't know a bad timing.
I've always had bad timing all my life, so it's like,
what the heck? And I've been everybody's asked me this question,
like how did how did this happen? You were such
a just sweet, quiet boy. I go one day, I
just said f it and I said, let's see what happens.
And but it was scary and it's still it's still
(07:44):
scary now thirty six. I feel like I'm fully out
of my shell at thirty six years old, and it's
taken a long time to get there, and it's still terrifying.
Like starting this podcast with my buddy. At the time,
when we started together, doing this didn't get especially getting
in the school talking you sports, like people think I'm
a weird guy that talked about sports and stuff like that,
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you know, so it's like, screat let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
One of the things I like about you that I
saw online and here's a video, folks, where he actually
makes a basketball basket going backwards. He did do it.
I saw it. I can't even save my life, but
he did it. The thing about yours that you know,
you were both big boys before it came on, and
a lot of your videos you are active, and I think,
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and I think that's a great thing to show that
we're not just these considered lazy can't do anything, can't
play sports. I mean, like you're showing that, and it
is that unconscious choice.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh, I just it's just me because I you know,
when I got fat, I was still pretty agile. I
always call myself on the Dion Sanders of fat guys,
like I can do things that most fat guys can't.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Or you know, okay, yes.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Like when I was when I was coaching youth football.
I mean, I'm three hundred and twenty pounds now. When
I was coaching football about two seventy five, I really
let myself go just so we're clear, but like the
kids would be like coach, coach more, I'm faster than you.
I go, really, you you think I'm deceptively fast, and
and I go, okay, And I never lost a forty well,
(09:18):
I don't say forty a twenty yard dish. If we
ran a forty they might have caught me, but only
twenty yards yeah, but it's but that's what I like.
I like proving that because it's I don't know when
somebody used to be the guy that you didn't dare.
You didn't dare me to do anything, and I still
it took me. I finally cashed in on my last dare.
It took me that made the bet in two thousand
(09:40):
and nine cashing in. We cashed it in October, in
August of last year. Been a year ago.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That. What was that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, no, dude, I'm an open book. You. Yeah, there's
no limits with the red velvet. Trust me, case tell
me we we Uh. I made a bet with my
friend he I'm gonna go to the Air Force, and
I'm like, you ain't going to the Air Force. Whatever
you get an Air Force, I'll get a smiley tattoo
on my butt. He has probably been serving our country
in the two thousand and nine. Well, in August of
(10:14):
last year, Oh my god, we cashed in the bet.
I went to I went to a tattoo place and
then they called an audible on me. I did get
the tattoo, but it wasn't a tattoo guy. It was
my my friend who did it. He can't draw. Oh
my god, So now I have a smiley face that
(10:34):
looks like for Ky from Toy Story on my butt cheek.
But I go, you know what, I had, the debt's paid.
I sent a picture of my other buddy. I said,
that's paid. We're good.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Then he went with that. I mean, that's impressive that
she actually went.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And that's what like doing stunts like I wish. I
wish I knew how to operate YouTube in my younger years,
because lord knows what would happen. I might have been famous.
I don't. But and that's the thing is I like
just doing stunts like that just to just to show people, Hey,
I like to have fun. Get out of your shell,
pull yourself out of that show. We did a last fall.
(11:10):
We did a bungee fitness class and oh my lord,
and I picked random people but like they're my friends.
But we had one guy here in town. He goes, hey,
I want you guys to get me out of my shell. Well,
come here, we're gonna videotape us doing bungee class like
and we so we pulled him out. My buddy Jared,
we did a a swirk class in December. Yeah, I'm
(11:32):
not in good enough shape. He's swirking. But uh yeah,
we dressed up as I dressed up as Santa Claus
in a swear and started torking on the wall and
all sorts of things. But then at the end they
did a circle you had to do a dance off. Yeah,
well Jared was a big dance guy, and I said,
I just hawked him in there. And afterwards he goes,
thanks man, thanks for helping me. Just help me do that.
And I want to help people break down those barriers
(11:53):
of random stuff because it's it's freeing almost you know
what I mean, it is you.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm fully myself, I bad and I always been in
and give people to laugh. It's a great feeling. Oh
my god, someone laughs. You're like, oh my god, something
you say you say, it's something you do and it's addictive.
It's a great it's a great feeling. I mean, it's
you know, I like it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes, it makes me feel better because I've I've battled
a lot of you know, being unhappy and bad thoughts
like that, and so I almost took the Robin Williams approach,
like I want to make people laugh because I'm miserable inside,
and it took a couple of years. It took about
two years because we've been doing this podcast is content
creation full time for about two years. And you really
(12:38):
got to drop the drop the veil on everything and
expose yourself, not in that way, but expose yourself to everybody.
It's like, hey, this is me, this is the real me,
this is this is what you get. And I will
try to doctor it up as much as I can,
but I'm not going to sway from who I am.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So right now, you're doing a lot of sports stuff.
You're doing you sorts, you doing that, you're doing high school.
So is that it's right now? Is those two things? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I rebranded so and I only start with how the
podcast even started. It wouldn't it wouldn't be possible. My
friend Jared Lompston and I we went to a football game,
an XFL game is Saint Louis back in March of
twenty three or April some spring of twenty three, and
we drive home and we're talking and we talked the
entire way and he goes to make good podcast. I go, yeah, yeah,
(13:27):
I would didn't think any more about it. I'm actually
on vacation in Alabama in June that year, and he
texted me. He goes, hey, would you have a night
or two a week to record a podcast with me?
And I go, yeah, I'd probably fit that it goes
good because I've already bought all the stuff, and I go,
what if I would have said no? And then it like,
you know that the thing you get started, you're throwing
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everything against the wall trying to see what sticks, you know,
And we were I did. I mean, we did a
boodoir photo shoot, we won a free one. We entered
a drawing as a joke and we won. And that
was all pretty nervous about that one because it's like
my wife was not real happy about that, but I
went ahead and did it anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh god, okay, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But then just then we started. We did one hundred
and ninety eight episodes together, probably more because we lost
a bunch because we were early years. But we interviewed
a ton of people and just heard their stories and
stuff like that, and then we kind of grew up
together to find what we really enjoyed. And we've been
doing the Youth Sports Chatdown since August of twenty three.
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And I was, you know, I coach you sportsmen around
you sports a lot, and my I got two daughters
that are coming up through the youth sports. My son
just graduated, and I was like, I really want to
focus on the sports. And we talked and I sat down,
I broke down front in front of him. I said, dude,
I want my girls to feel like rock stars because
the boys' sports get they get a lot of the publicity.
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And I said, that's fine, that's cool. I want them
to come up to But I go, the girls work
just as hard as the boys, and I said, I
want them to feel that too, And so we we
kind of agreed that we're going to go our separate
ways and then we're still friends. And but I'm focusing
more on I got three pillars sports, food, fun, and
that's that's me.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I know, I know, it's funny. I have two daughters.
They're they're around your age actually, so I'm ancient obviously,
but one one she plays she was soccer and volleyball.
Then my granddaughter was was volleyball, very good volleyball. And
my other daughter was water polo of all things. Really yeah,
bigger up her body than I did. And I was like, girl,
(15:31):
she was like hard, daddy. I'm like, no, my god,
it's crazy. We were always water they were very either
by the beach. I'm very we're water babies. My kids
are swims as they were, like, you know, born. But
but she took up water pole. The girls team. They
were good and I was like, how are you doing that?
I was very proud of her. Now now she now
she had she has boys now because she had Denburgh boys,
(15:52):
I have no girls like I know, but it's just
but I agree with you. I think the girls teams
they work really hard and they it's always the boys
get first, they get the more publicity. It's like, but
these girl teams, I mean, I'm proud of my girls.
They were out there practicing and doing their thing. They
should guy grew with they should get more attention.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
M and and that's what I started focusing on. You know,
I'm a I'm a football player. I was was and
I'm really passionate about football. So I said, football season
has always been my busy season. And I said, but
throwing in but for the longest time, so when I
interviewed started terwing coaches. But for the longest time, I
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was so focused on northf You dude, nobody else mattered.
Nobody else mattered to me. It was like, that's where
that's where I went to school, that's where I coached
in the middle school program and the youth system. It
was like nor few versus the world to me.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And that's how I.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Looked at it for a long time. And now my
son graduated, you know, I was like, no, it's not that.
And it started slowly building. Last year I was I
interviewed eight or nine different football coaches around the area,
and I was like, okay, I want to talk about
their their programs too. So I slowly started eating into it.
But then when I interviewed I talked to Derek Dean,
I go, I don't know anything about Attica, bro, like I.
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And then I had Luke Carmodia on a couple of
weeks ago, and I go, I don't know anything about
Illinois sports, like and I and I try to be like,
I don't mean that, Like you know, it doesn't matter.
I mean that I don't know. Teach me, but get
your crowns out and teach me. So things like that,
and that's where it's really I went to My son
made the All Star team for the Walbash Valley this
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past summer. So I went to I kind of just
showed up and I was like, hey, coach Barrett, do
you care if I take some pictures? I do a
podcast in here in Brazil, I work with coach Rates,
I work with these guys. He's like, yeah, that's fine.
I'm like cool. And then I started they started adding
me on the socials and I'm like, okay, I got
something here. And then I did. I went that little
battle should I do it? But they gonna think I'm
weird because you know, and I go, screw it, Let's
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just do it. And I started firing out messages and
all of them like yeah, ude, let's go. Let's go.
And then now me and coach Dean tomorrow actually we
start our uh our new series. We're gonna play each
other in the college football game and a lot of streaming.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh I love it. I love it. We love coaching.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So I love He's gonna kick the crap out of me.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Probably I'm terrible, but no, no, I don't know who
to root for. I mean, I like you both. I
don't know who the roots for it. That's crazy for.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
The winner, you would never be wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I like that well. It was funny though, so folks,
we mentioned these companies coaches, so coach t of course
is the lead of our Ramby Report, which is a
huge hit for us. And then coach Barrett. He's had
two successful podcasts when he was at South Romillion another
Walkout first Tal. I mean almost ten thousand downloads on
that one. He just he just was being on that,
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I know, and what I'm saying, I mean, we're yeah.
And now he has moving to chains with Terror Howe
he's with the South Eagle people and that's a hit also.
So he has two hit podcasts with our channels, so
we're fans of both of them. We just added avon
charge our list now with coach Gibson who was Coach
of the Week recently and he's he's a great guy.
We just started with him and we just we just
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we love we just we I love the I love
I love the spirit of the It's you know, it's football.
It's like it's it's the parents are into it and
the alumni is into and the community is into it.
We have that in La so a little bit. It's
just so big. I don't see it. I mean, but
in these towns I want you. Okay, so you're from
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western Indiana. Yes, I try explain to people you're near
the border of eastern Illinois.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So for you do you cover both sides? Like right
there you cover? How do you where do you? Where
do you you say you're expanding? Where do you cover?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
So now I'm covering eighteen eighteen squads in the in
the Walbash Valley oy and and I mean that loosely,
like I get on max Preps and I pull the
stats and things like that, and I'll talk to the coaches.
But I've talked to maybe fourteen out of the eighteen
I think, okay, last two years. And I have one
Illinois town that was only the Richland County Tigers. And
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I just interviewed him the other day. But I was like,
I cause I went when I went to that Walbash
Valley All Star game. I'm like, there's thirty six to
thirty eight programs I can I can kind of carve
that out right now. But I said, I gotta go
slow because I have a bad habit of going in
just both the wall and then I'm like what I do.
So it's like and when I when I go slowly.
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I went from like five to eighteen. So that's a
slow step, but just making contacts. And right now there's
one program that I have not heard from. I haven't
talked to a single coach. Avon. I got because of
Michael Gant when he was at North. Then he went
to Avon. I said, hey, man, you're still I call
it the diner verse. You're in the diner verse now,
and so we cover that. And that's what my poster
(20:51):
now is saying, like, here's your Dinerverse rankings, here's your Dinerverse.
This people probably think I'm a psychopath.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I I love it. It's great. It's all about marketing.
Shit about marketing.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, and so I have I have all the Putnam,
the Putnam County High schools, Norfew, the Vigo County, the
Park County South, the Sullivan County, North, Davies, and Lynton,
and then Avon. I think I've covered them all, but yeah,
there's eighteen in there.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
No, it's interesting because when I've gone there, I've gone
to those areas twice, and it's it's like for me
staying back in time because I love four million people
in Los Angeles, four million of us so and they're
all in the four old five freeway with me every day
like I'm like, oh God, every time sitting like why
(21:44):
am I on the freeway? And I just and I
come to this town where I remember at the first
I said, there's nothing in the sky but stars. I
mean there's no helicopters like once flying right now over
my house. No helicopters, no airplane by the airports, no airplanes.
It's just like stars and all this space like I have.
(22:08):
I have a huge lot of land where I live
for l A and I have a huge guard and
all stuff. But you guys have acreage. Everybody knows each other,
which is which it's a good thing in some ways.
And one of thing that got me was that we
were I was with my hand. I have a handler.
Was my handler. He was like, we're gonna tell my
son So's house.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Can I ask a question as your handler your wife,
because that's that's why joke. Is my wife my handler?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, first of all, I'm not married, never married. I
had children to get married. That's not for me. But
on my handler, and his name is Doug Haass, so
he's my he's the he's the guy that to this
small Town, Indiana. So I said, I'm in your hands.
I know nobody here, I'm in your hands. Uh. So
he was called my handler. So he's my collaborator of
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all this stuff that we do and the host amazing
the shows you listen to that we do. So he
would drive me around. He goes, we're gonna stop by
so and so's house. Like we just stopped by, Like
in l A, gotta call schedule ad time, nobody pops in.
Don't pop in. So we did. We just thought, I mean,
and then they're like, Chames, oh my god, come on inside.
Want some food? Yes, I want some food. I always
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want food. Wasn't a drink? Yes? Like I was like,
I'm never pampered in l A. Like nobody does anything
for me. That small town just kind of like go
at the flow. It's just like we we abody's joking aroun.
I love that boy jokes around. I mean, oh yeah,
I love talking ship by joking around. But it's just
like it was. I had to. I was like, I
(23:37):
don't want to leave. They want to buy a house
because it's you living where you live house and that's it.
I'm like, I'm I'm staying. No. But it's just like
I did. I just had so I guess for you.
I mean, it must be great growing up and living
and something like that. It must be great.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's been. It's been a blast because now some people
hate small town America. Something to do here, Ti, I
can find my own fun like I trust me. We
went to so funny story why I can't be in
big towns very long? Uh. My buddy has a has
a fifty six passenger party bus and called me up
(24:14):
one day. He goes, hey, what are you doing Wednesday?
I go, I don't probably nothing, and he goes, you
want to go to Nashville with me? We got to
go pick up the opening act for Alabama and bring
them back to terror Hate and I go, yes, sure,
He goes, bring your podcast stuff. I go, well, anytime
he takes that party bus out, I try to go
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because I feel because I've nicknamed it the Red Velvet Express.
I know it's his bus and everything, but I say,
welcome to the Red Velvet Express and he's like, I
didn't care. So we bored. Mind you three of us.
There's three of us in a fifty six pass going down.
We got a coolerful of beer. We got snacks. We're
having a great time. We get we get to Nashville.
(24:55):
Of course, he didn't tell me we were gonna go like
hang out in Nashville. He said, we're going to pick
up the band and come back to me. That is pickup,
come back.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He walked out of his house and he is stressed
to the nines in like jeans, boots, a nice button shirt.
I'm wearing basketball shorts, my fanny pack and a T shirt.
And my other the other guys with me is in
a cutoff and basketball shorts. And I go, why didn't
you tell me we were gonna like actually be in town.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, I had to go.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
To Nashville walk around like a boss and my fanny pack, which, yeah,
mind you. I do wear a fanny pack because I
wear basketball shorts and ninety nine percent of the time.
And I got like where I have so much crap
in my pockets it like wears my pants down. I
don't like that, so I wear the fanny pack. My
wife hates it, and I love Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
First kay, First of all, I think we're switched at birth.
I am a basketball shorts guy all the time, Like, seriously,
I wear I have to get dressed, but real pants on.
I'm mad I did. The other day. I was like,
it's nineteen degrees out here and I had to go
to an event and like, James, you can wear your basketball,
(26:00):
That's what the homegirl said to me. I said, no,
I can't. I don't want to put clothes on. So
I'm with you exactly cause I'm with you, and I'm
with you on that one. Number two. My late step
for me, he rested peace just he just passed away recently.
He had a fanny pack. Oh so he was a
he was a cop in real life, and so on
(26:20):
his off time, you wore a fanning pack with my mom,
And for years we spake fun of him all the time.
So every every birthday, I buy you a kind of
fanny pack. So the last birthday before he passed, I
found this giant I mean, it's like just mean outrageously
huge fanning pack. And then I wrapped it up in
a present and he laughed. I had never seen Hm
(26:41):
laugh that hard entire life. But I said, well, what's
in your After all these years, I call Papa Moses,
what was what was in your? What's your? He had
a gun in there?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
His wallet keys. I was like, I was what I
was in there? And I said, what kind of gun
it was? But it was like mye littlechool gun. He
was just case protect my mother. He went somewhere and
you know, and he was everybody was licensed to carry on.
He was to carry and everything. But it's just like fun.
I'm like, you said, I puts off my shorts because
it weiss my shorts down. You just say, you just
said what he said. And I wear a basketball story,
(27:13):
so I always almost putting keeys my thing may actually
pack maybe maybe maybe real Veil was right, I should
go to vanny pack. It's just highly So.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I actually have two people that bought fanny packs with
the diner pod logo on it. They're like, we want
them a mic deal. But so I started doing that.
Like so I bought my very first pack in Alabama,
and I was a little self conscious about it cause
I go, I used to make fun of people that
wore fanny pack and now I'm wearing one because my
son's track coach he had one. And this dude served
the military, you know, touch on of a gun and
(27:43):
I go, why are you carrying a fanny pack? He goes,
try it and I tried it, and I go, all right,
I'm sold, I'm gonna get one. I would use my
my daughter's belt bag and yeah. But then I went
to Alabama and I got an actual fanny pack, and
I was a little self conscious about it. I was like,
I don't know if this is But then I go,
you know what, I don't have crap weigh me down.
(28:03):
So I went to get my haircut the first time
I get back. I actually my wife bought me a
new one. It's lime green. So I wear black on
black almost all day and it's bright high viz green.
And I wore that one to the barber shop and
I go, hey, Teddy, I said, you can make fun
if you want. I really don't care, but I go,
I do wear a fanny pack. He goes, yeah, I
got one too. He goes, I put my gun in there.
(28:24):
I go, oh, I put snacks in mine. You know,
I don't like. I go it's also so I have
I carry a Seinfeld wallet. And for the kids, you
don't know, Seinfeld is the greatest show probably in existence.
So yeah, exactly one episode that he pulled out a
walt and it's probably six inches thick. So I have
my Seinfeld wallet, my cell phone. It's in a hard case,
my keys snacks, and so I can take it off
and I can jop right.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's right. So that's hilarious. I think if I carried one,
I have snacks in their chee. That's the fun in
Western in the end of the eat real.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Food, we do. I mean, if you come across the
skin any person, that's their own fault.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I didn't, so I say that lovingly. I didn't. I said,
like I said, I was telling before the show when
I got there, and I was like, I'm the shortest
and smallest person here. I'm a giant in Los Angeles.
I'm a giant. And I'm like, Hi, I'm stating you.
But you know, I was like, even the kids are
(29:24):
like six or five and three under browns. I'm like,
what is going on here? So I did all the cornfields.
I don't don't what was going on there. I wouldn't
go on. I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You can go that's fine, you just get lost. I
grew up in the cornfields, man.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Did so screw that noise? Well, I said, fuck that ship,
screw that noise. I'm not going to a Cornfield. Nope,
I said, that's okay. I saw shoogar in the corn
like you're in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Like but growing up, I mean, so when all my
friends go to my mom said, Mama more always made food,
and she made lots and lots of food.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You can't go to my parents' house and not leave
hung shit. I go over there. I try to have
coffee with them two to three times a week when
I dropped the kids off of school. Their school is
a mile away from mom and Dad's house, and my
parents they're in their seventies now, so I'm like, I
want to spend time with them as much as I can.
If I drive over there and Dad's like, hey, we
got that good heavy whipping cream if you want to
get that in your coffee, and we and we get there,
(30:20):
and then Mom's like, do you want toast? No? Thank you?
Do you want to bag?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Do you want this?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like finally I'm like, Mom, what, I don't want anything?
I just want my coffee. And it's like that. So
I go over there pretty regularly for dinner, at least
once a week, maybe once every couple of weeks, and
it's always I get to pick whatever, and I go,
I want meat loaf, I want lasagna. I want something
heavy to be like me. And I eat, and I'll
eat three or four slices. And when I say slices,
(30:45):
we're talking this big. I'll eat three or four of
those and go on a food coming. But then Mom's like, well,
we made kool aid pie, we made mountain dew cake,
we made this, we made that. What do you want?
And I go slash kool aid pie? I eat one?
Do you want another? No? Do you want another? Do
you want some cookies? No? Do you want a bran?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No? I don't want.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I just want to fuss good by, and so I
go home pass out.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Let's exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But question, are you a fan of Chinese food?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Love Chinese food?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, next time you come to Indiana, you need to
call me. Okay, I found a perfect Chinese place. It's
in Plainfield. Just take forty It's a forty minute drive.
It's called fo yaw okay, fou yall. Sorry every time
I yell it every time I go. And they have
sushi hibachi American food. I literally went there today and
(31:37):
I ate four plates and I my wife drove and
I fell asleep on the way home.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No, the next time I come to Indiana. No, it's
it's you know we're going to meet. I mean, that's
not that's not even a question, not even a question.
I'll talk to my handler.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'll talk to my handler to get such your handlers.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Touch our handlers and they'lln't coordinate. No, No, I mean
I know, but I know clearly you're on my I
have to meet you when I'm there. But no, that's
I love tis. I love that I do, and I sorry, Californians,
I do love you. I live here, blah blah. But
I'm not a vegetarian, not a vegan. I like my food.
I like to eat, and I'm like, I just don't
apologize for it. I'm just like that. I'm sorry, Midwest.
(32:16):
I don't feel guilty.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Can I tell you of my first vegetarian story. I
was never I've never been a vegetarian. If you are,
that's that's purfectly fine. But when I was a teenager,
we had a big family dinner after church, and we're
big people, so we have a lot of food, a
lot of meat. And my cousin brought his girlfriend first
time I ever met her, and mind you we have chicken, turkey, Pam, well,
(32:40):
you got everything, and she goes, well, I'm a vegetarian.
I'm just sitting there. I'm like, why, I know, It's
like I just don't.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean, we're not going to Midwestern like vegetables. I
do like some vessels. I eat some vegetables, but I
mean I like food. I don't mind. And it tastes
better than the Midwest. For some reason, it just tastes better.
Maybe with love, yes, maybe because it's there. That's why
the cows out back, that's what's going on in California.
Wait to get our stuff shipped in. You though, we
(33:12):
have good fish, we have good seafood out of here.
That's my thing. I love my seatfood. I've heard even
though New Orleans is better, but the New Orleans is
better seafood. But that's still been there.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, I've never been to California either, I have. I
have not made it any further east than Illinois.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So nobody you never but you know, you've never been
in New Orleans. Like just go straight down. You gotta
go straight and straight down.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And it's like you never know when we go straight down,
we somehow go to Alabama.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Every time, somehow go somehow, somehow, the car just turns
this way. That's it. We're in Alabama. My brother with
Alabama actually twice. He has friends there and he had
a good time. He had a great time.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Okay, we go every year. We've been going every year
since twenty eleven. Gulf Shores, Alabama.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Good like vacation spot.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yes, it's so. I get bad anxiety inside of big cities,
Like I hate driving in big city, so my wife
has to drive and I don't have that in Golf Shores.
It's getting bigger, it's getting crowded, but I don't feel
like the like the white knuckle driving and I'm always looking.
It's just let's just go.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You don't go to what's that place in Florida everybody
goes to. That's not Deston. You'll go there are you'll
go to Deston.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, I've been to I've been to Panama City, and
I've been to Tampa. I went to convisit my wife's family,
and I've my wife always played the trip to Florida.
We're like, we're gonna go in Florida for like two days.
That's a horrible idea. We go, we drive fourteen hours
to stay for day and a half and then leave.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, I'm gloody, but New Orleans, Well it's a big city,
but it's it's a crazy town. I think you might
it's for your personality and your person here it is.
Your personality would like it. I think you would like
the food, but it is kind of crowded, and it's
a low crowded for you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Probably we're saying I'd get arrested. Probably, probably that's what
happens to you. I get in big city, like, oh, I
didn't even finish my story in Nashville. We were there
an hour.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh yeah, the natural, Yeah what happened.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Thank god we're there an hour and a half because
I would have like we were walking around, I'm like, Oh,
there's a club I want to go into. There's a restaurant,
there's a hookah bar, there's this, there's that. Let's go,
and I go, we gotta go now. And they got
me on the bus and we left. Of course, we
get there and everybody's like, you want to party with
jelly Roll. They were calling me Strawberry jelly Roll, and
I was like, I'm not a jelly Roll.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh my god, I just I just caught that. I'm like,
oh my god, I just I just caught that and
totally fits you. Oh my god, totally fs. Oh my god,
Oh my god, I just I just caught that. I
was like, oh my god, yes, am I meeting him
one day too. I think it's kind of cool. I
wasn't be meeting him, I mean the real one. Yeah,
(35:48):
but way way, So, did you guys pick up the
did you guys pick up the Alabama? The front of
the band in front of that way?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, so the opening act. He actually the lead singer
that band live. He grew up ten miles down the
road from Brazil. He lived in Clay City, which even
smaller than Brazil, and he came back. He went down
there and got some songs, got some notoriety, and they
ride him back up here. So shout out to Eliot
(36:14):
Boo and the imprompt too.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's that's very cool. I think that's good.
Nashville is a great town, folks. Actually you're a been.
It's a great town. Ashville, Memphis are all great. I've
been in there. All great towns, especially for music. You
like music. Oh my god, they're just it's every place
has as somebody singing or playing music everywhere. It's crazy.
So I love that. Yeah, but you have been to California,
you have been in La. Yeah, it's a lot of people.
(36:37):
I think I think they're parts of it. You kind
of like basis. It's a lot of people. It's a lot.
It's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Hey, I would love to come. I can't drive. I've
got to walk or have a have a handler drive, man,
I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yes, yeah, I mean it'll be tough. I mean yeah,
I mean yeah. I mean no, I don't like it
out of you. I don't like Jordian and somebody. It's crazy.
I mean, yikes, yikes, shikes. Do that Okay, So yeah,
I have a show with Dnner Podcast to tell folks
where they can find it all. So I'm post. I'll
put it all in the description, of course.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But on Facebook it's the Diner Podcast, and it'll be
the logo says the Diner on a plate with some stars.
On Instagram, YouTube, Twitch and kick and Twitter, it's all
Diner Pod, one word and that's how you can find us.
Spotify it's Diner Pod and it's an AI image of
(37:28):
me talking into a microphone. If you go to one
of those socials, you can find our link tree and
it'll have everything. On the link tree. You can even
find the original Diner Podcast with the first one hundred
and ninety however many episodes of Me and Uncle Lump
and then the new Diner Pod just Me, so you
can go to go there and give us a follow
like whatever. However that I'm not a good plug person.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well say that first. I would tell people go follow
him or I'll find you. That's all I would tell you. You
don't follow him, I'm gonna find you. Tell you one
of you. I'm gonna find you. I'm gonna know you
listened and watch this. I'm gonna go wherever you are
and make you press the button.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You're gonna press that button.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
You're gonna like it exactly exactly. He's my new friend
now and I want you to do that and check
him out. But he does have some great he has
some great interviews. Uh, so you want to check one
check us out and Eddie and again, you guys who
are fans of coaching and coach Barrett go if you
didn't know it was out, go check it out. He's
it's out and here he's right. He's everywhere on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, YouTube,
(38:28):
go did you he has? Yeah, he has some videos
that are hilarious and some videos that are really good
on there. So I want you to have to check
those out also and tell him James sent cha. You
do that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I appreciate that. Oh I forgot to mention my TikTok.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah you go? What your TikTok? You go? So how
long have you been on TikTok? Is it big? What's going
on over there?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
It's got? I mean it's it's okay, it's about twenty
eight thousand followers and okay, that's good. I started. I
got it in late twenty twenty because somebody, some guy
at work, good, you should you should try it, he'd
be good. I'm like, I'm not doing this statement. So
I made a video and it got so thousand views
and I was like, oh yeah, I was hooked from
there on in and and then I took a break
because at one point in time, I was doing like
(39:06):
thirty videos a day, and I go, I got to stop.
So then I stopped and then got back on and
so but yeah, twenty eight it's red velvet eight one.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Two, So check them out. Fun going there and I
goes TikTok is the place you guys. I'm James Junior
where all James Juniors are sold at James Lodd Junior
on all social media platforms. I'm not sold out. I'm
still I'm still for sale, and just check out everything's
going on books. J l J Media is your place
for all things. And again, like we were saying before,
(39:37):
we have a bunch of high school podcasts Indiana. They're
all out there. You can check them all out. Go
to my page on YouTube. On YouTube, do I page
on Instagram or on Facebook. You can see a list
of all of them. But go there and just have
some great kids playing some great football who one day
might be the people you see in the NFL. You
never know. That's when they gotta go to the Midwest
and stuff for people. You may say I know that
(39:59):
person back then you never know what's gonna happen with them.
My whole thing and I always say it's at the end,
so it's it gives about connection and we're all more
like than we are different, but really we really are.
I mean that's that's kind of actually the really the
thing and and I say to judge people by how
they treat you and the feeling you have when you're
done with them. That's the most important thing out there.
(40:20):
So if you guys have to think about that, how
are you treating people and what will they say about
you if you walked away, that's the thing you should
think about. I'll see you guys next time. And just
extra connections. Why