The Changing Landscape of High School Football

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Your host Bill Jones.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
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new start time.

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I've always wanted to start a little later.

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I mean, you know, I come.

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In early and do a normal work work day like
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Week here on ITG Next Georgia.

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Also be remiss if I didn't bring in the other
person that is responsible for making sure we are on
the air. Of course, I'm talking about miss producer.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's Mazzannie Matthews, Mazzani. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hey everybody, Hey, everybody, it's been a good long day.
I'm excited to be here. I enjoyed this new time,
so thank you, and yeah, I'm ready to have a
good show today. I see a lot of people checking them. Yeah,
we still have people checking it, even though we changed
our time.

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I was worried about that.

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Yeah, we have Michael Bastard, he says, even if Phill
and crew and everyone at it TG Next Georgia. Of course,
Roster Sutherland. Hello from Marietta. Obadiah Farley, he said, what's
going on it TG TCC checking in.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Obada was the first person I reached out to.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yah.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I said, hey, obid I help it get the word out.
You know, we got a new start time. Of course,
I put a couple of notices out on Facebook. So
hopefully everybody got the word. But but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, so we got Michael Bastard, he says, go milting eagles.
Keith Blaylock giving us the side eye. That's what's looking
like the emoji. We got tay Redda Mayredda Marietta in
the building.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's the thing about who was that? Keith. Yeah, that's
the thing with him. Keith likes to do the eyes.
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Keith the eyeball? What does the eyeballs emoji mean? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
He's like side on. And maybe because we came on
later and he got that notification, I sent it out
to the people a messenger that we we are alive now.
So I know a lot of people. Hopefully you guys
enjoy this new start time and it gives you time
because I know before when we started a lot of
people were just getting off work.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Has some people joining in Lee saying, you know, we're
just not getting off work. So hopefully this time works
for you guys as well as myself. Jeremy Williams Coffee
will win their region by a mile, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I've been hearing some things This week on social media,
people are really pumping up coffee. Now hang on just
a second, Okay, Now, I think coffee is gonna be good.
But you do know what region they're in with Thomas County.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Central exactly, with Lee County, yeah, Houston County. Of course,
Houston County is gonna lose their quarterback, which, by the way,
I'm working on a story real quick. Ho that thought
that you got, MAZONI I'm working on a story talking
about this year is.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Going to be really the theme of who's next? Next man up.
I'm writing a story on who are who's gonna be replacing?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Aj Hill at.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Houston County, Who's going to be replacing Luke Nick, Who's
going to be replacing Juju?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah? Carrollton? Right, Who's going to be replacing Western Brian
at Lee County? Yeah? See where I'm going home? Yeah,
it really is.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
And let's let's face it, a football team is not
one man.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
But come on, the quarterback tastes them along way.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, the quarterback is the straw that stirs the drink
of the football test.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, well it is, don't you agree?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I do agree.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean you're going to go as far as your
quarterback's gonna take you.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
But I've been hearing of some upcoming talent even you know,
kids are in eighth grade right now, about to go
to ninth grade, you know, and now we have more
freshmen starting.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
More sophomores, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
So I don't put it past a lot of these
programs to have something up in sleeve.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Oh yeah, I'm with you, speaking of which you know
we do. We did the story on you know ones
to watch. Yeah, I came up with the concept of
you know, one's to watch classes of twenty twenty eight,
twenty twenty nine. Those would be you know, rising sophomores,
junior seniors. And I tell you you're right, Mazzoni. There
you hit it right on the head. There are some
really good looking younger kids.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
A lot of people were returning, yeah to these teams.
You know, we saw a lot of young teams this
past season. Yes, yeah, so that's always good news we
got in the house. I thought this comment was funny.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Hey r A Marietta.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Jeffrey Rowland, he says, one of Roberts demons in the house.
But also Obadiah commented to Jeremy Williams. He said it's
not April first, yet.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
They thought he was doing the April Folds.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah yeah, look and again talking about that region two
five am. Again, I'm not doubting coffee at all. Okay,
it's Tyrone or no Tyreek. Ty would get back.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
As he graduated.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Boy, he was a beast yaid the single single game
rushing record and sy of Georgia last year ran for
whatever seven hundred yard? Can you imagine that he ran
for the length of seven football field.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
In one season, one game? Oh wow, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
You believe that.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I don't know if he is he back, you guys,
let me know about that. But it's gonna be a
tough region. So I don't think it's I don't I
don't think it's wise to say that anybody is gonna
win the region by.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Ma oh, it's gonna it's gonna be tough call. This time,
we have Kim Stevens from way across middle school. Helloi,
this is my first time seeing Kim too.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is that Kim he or she looks like she?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right here? We have Donnie Jarvis Cockle in the house.
Donnie guy Evan reached checking in and says hello, go
mighty Hornets, Pocka Hoggs. Robert Tayler says, go Peachkin of
Trojans and coach Westbrook, Yeah, Marice Westbrook. But I says
it's TCC year for this reason. Let's just be honest.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Maybe again, though you got Lee County. Lookco's gonna be good,
Thomas Kenny, Central is gonna be good. Coffee's gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Veterans has a new coach, and listen, I know a
lot of you chuckling, blah whatever, But Veterans has got
Steve Divorsney. Guy knows a little something about state championships.
He's won one, okay, and did a great job when
he was.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Where am I at here? Oh gosh, I'm growing in black?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
What helma are you looking for?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Hey road?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Thank you the serrupt makers and think here's a certain
maker helmet up there.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Hs.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
But Steve Divorceney did a great job at Chris. He
wont a state title at Griffin. So anyway, point being,
it's going to be a very very competitive region over
I and everybody else. So we shall see what happened.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
But ob I's point, I've got a glimpse of how
TCC runs their program and I just want to say,
it's very discipline and you can tell by how they
run out. So when we saw that game, let's see
here who else we have. Oh, I got a question
for the people. Did you guys watch or attend the

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Georgia State High school basketball State championship games this past week?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You were there?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes? I was. I was there Friday and Saturday, and
I saw some of the best high school basketball I've
ever seen in my life. In some games, I just
felt like I was watching the college game field. It
was amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So I wrote a story about the state of basketball
in the state of Georgia, Okay, and I talked I
touched on that.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, what were your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, you know, we've got some of the best Georgia
high school basketball in this state.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
We do. Yes, got you your point. But what happens
after that?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, we did talk about that in the last show.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now I say that, Okay, college basketball historically has been
bad here in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Pro basketball the Hawks, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Now, having said that, it's looking like the University of
Georgia Bulldogs are going to break a ten year streak
what and make the NCUBA Tournament.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, isn't that true.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Have not been paying attention to they finished strong. Okay,
they Georgia started strong. Then boy, they hit I mean
they tanked once they made the top twenty five for
the first time in I.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Don't know how many years, a decade. They it frightened
them so much.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
They're like, where we at. We're in the top twenty
five and they suddenly went downhill.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
They lost two of their or they lost nine of
the next eleven games. Oh wow, But they were able
to bounce back and they finished strong the regular season strong.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Now they get ready for the SEC.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Tournament and from all indications, really don't really matter how
Georgia does in the SEC tournament.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
They are destined to get a berth in the NC
Double A tournament.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh that'd be great, big dance.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
It will be great. That's what you achieve, that's what
you strive for. Uh. Boys, wait and say.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I have to pay attention to that. But just
like right here at this comment Roster Sutherland. He says,
University of Grayson loses the girls championship while University of
Wheeler wins boys in six A. And let me tell you,
I was I was pulling for Grayson but it was.
It was a great game, honestly, and I think I

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think Grayson, I feel like Mia, Flint were Jenson, almost
every team it was. If you guys watched it, it
was a trend of the team in the first half,
who was leading right some at some point during the
end of the third or fourth quarter, they just the
game just flipped, did a total flip, and the underdog
just took over the game and won. So that's kind

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of what happened with I believe it was Wheeler and Newton.
That was a great game, you guys. That was the
college type game, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So unfortunately that was kind of the game. You know.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm all for reseeding, and I talked about that before.
Oh yeah, you know, I felt like there should have
been a receding in football this past year where you
had my point being that you've got two teams that
truly are the best in the state, like we had
in Wheeler and Grayson.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I was about to say that.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, it was a shame that they had to play
in the was it quarter finals or semi finals? Yeah,
I hate to see that when two teams are playing
each other that early in the playoffs. Okay, but it happened,
Wheeler did win. But I was talking about my Jenson Grayson,
so I wrote a story.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Looks like Grayson boys and girls are on their way
in to another state championship and oh Gosheton. Yeah, but
you know what, still too great progress. But to your
point you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
The state of Georgia. High school basketball is fantastic. It
is great basketball.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, and I know one player I was looking at
this said he already committed to Clemson. And that goes
back to your point of talent leaving the state, so.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Exactly, and there in lines they probably got to you
gotta keep these guys in the state of Georgia. But anyway,
who else We.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Got Daniel James checking in and he says, shout out
to Tri City Boys, City of champions. They did win.
They also won this past weekend as well.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Touch on Daniel James real quick. Yeahs up Phil and
crew checking in from Stockbridge.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yep, there we go.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, but go ahead. I was gonna ask you what
kind of what you want to tell them, what kind
of topics we're getting into today?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Absolutely, So, guys talking about a couple of different things. So,
of course Sly coach is going to be joining us a.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Little bit later. And we were talking.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I guess it was last week we touched on the
seven on seven you know, the good.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
The bad, the ugly.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, it got me to thinking seven on sevens is
it's kind of like high school football. It has changed
a whole lot from when it was first introduced. I
don't know how many of you know this. Rush Propsed
swears he invented seven on sevens when he was at Hoover.
I have no reason to not believe him. Say what

(14:24):
you want about coach, innovative, offensive mind. He came up,
he swears, with the seven on seven. Now it has
really taken off, especially in the last decade. But now
we talk about seven on sevens and I'm writing and
working on a story about seven on sevens, the good
and the bad, the ugly. So and we're going this
one of the things I want to talk to our
viewers that we're going to talk to our viewers about. So, guys,

(14:47):
what do you think about seven on sevens It first
came out, it was supposed.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
To be like a teaching tool.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, yeah, we want our receivers, our quarterbacks to get
on the same page, get their rhythm down route running. Well, now, oh,
you know what's been introduced to seven on sevens is
the come the competitive side of it?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah it is, and I get it.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
But what's happening is you got receivers that are running
these shallow routes across the middle of the field where
the lineman would normally be hmm. Okay, You've just got
receivers that are picking up bad habits. Okay, you've got cornerbacks. Remember,
you got defensive backs on the other side. Look, there's
somebody to just to officiate. In the most cases these things,

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there's no there's a passing appearance called. So you got
defensive backs are mugging receivers. So, and you're gonna run
the risk of injuries. Last thing you want is you've
got to be injured in a game of seven on seven.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, And Stephen Tate even says he says he's not
a big fan of seven on seven either.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I got you and Steven's that's I think you You're
run into a lot of people like that. So I
thought we would talk about seven on sevens, the good
the bad again. You know, you now got these things
that are that are going to these these and paying
a lot of money, a lot of money to win
for entry fee, like going up to Georgia or Tennessee
or wherever. You enter your team into a seven on
seven tournament and your job, your goal is to win

(16:10):
a trophy. You want to bring back to this big
old trophy. We're seven on seven champions. Well, do you
think that's gonna give you a false sense of security
come regular season football?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Because it ain't like the football season.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's touched football.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm not saying I don't like it, but just because
you win a seven on seven tournament, don't get all
excited and don't think you're destined for a state title. Okay, Tee,
how many coaches I talked to you last couple of
days about this story seeing these teams come away with
a trophy at whatever seven on seven you know tournament

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the head they come away with this trophy and then
they go four and six in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, so where's the disconnect? You know, your season to
end up.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Like that, right? False sense of security?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, so that's one thing the state of Georgia high
school football Yeah, is definitely just another topic. It has
and I won't know what you guys think about the
state of high school football in Georgia. I think the
transfer situation has just drastically changed it.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, I can remember. It used to be my community
against your community.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, Now I wonder how many kids are actually from
the community.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
That's true. You have a lot of transfers from any
and everywhere, and it's I feel like you're not going
to change the sport, but I feel like you also
have a lot of transfers and basketball as well. But
it's definitely changing the sport. And then, like these rivalry
games or these big games, is the passion really there

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if you don't have people who grew up in that community.
Because I remember I was talking to the coach at TCC,
you know, he was saying, like, you know, you have
players in those smaller rural communities that grew up wanted
to be a Yellow jacket, And the same can be
said here for Valdosta. Allows you know, you grew up
wanting to be a Wocket or a Viking. Yeah, because
your uncle or your dad, or you know, even your mom,

(18:16):
maybe they played basketball or something. You know, they were
always a lifelong been a part of this community, and
that is your goal. You've been around to your whole life.
But nowadays that's that's kind of fading away.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
A lot a lot of it is, it really is,
and so we're going to talk about that. The state
of high school football in the state of Georgia. Also
another thing that has really kind of got my goal.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
The Quirky Kill Classic.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
So for those of you that I.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Guess have been around since, you know, the early days
of the Quirky Kill Classics now the Quirky Kill Dave
Hunter Classic.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
When that thing.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Started out, it was always fun to be looking forward
to the Corky Kill Classic and who the teams were involved, right, Yeah,
it's the opening game of the year forever for these teams. Man,
is my team going to be part of the Krky Kel?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Well, now, if you look at the lineups for this
year's Corky Kill Classic, no offense to the teams out
there that are part of this, but I think to
use the word.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Classic is a little little overreach.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm sorry, and again I'm not trying to take shots,
but these matchups are bad and we'll talk about it.
And I just don't think that the word.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Classic should be applied to these matchups.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, you know, we're talking about football changing over time
and maybe these tournaments and competitions, and I guess you
could say classics are changing over time as well.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I think I think it's it's it's a good
point to mold or to meld those two topics into
one another, because you're right, that is part of the
you know, much changing over time. That's it that this
is one of the things that has changed the Corky Kill.
It used to be matchups for one thing, it would
involve some South Georgia teams.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Look, and please don't tell me Howson County is from
South Georgia.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
We talked about that for the show.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Right, Yeah, we can go a little bit further south
than that.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Last year. And look, I'm not knocking I. J. Rosenberg
is in a lot for high school football. I want
to make sure I'm clear on that.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Uh. And he's the one.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
He's the gentleman that organizes the Corky Kill Classic and
has done a great job with it. Okay, I want
to make sure I'm everybody understands I'm not Knocking Eye Jack. Okay,
I know him, I've had him, I've interviewed him before,
and he and Dave Hunter have made this thing a
big deal. But it has changed the Corky Kill Classic

(20:52):
Dave the Corky Kill Dave Hunter Classic. I should say,
you just don't have the big name teams anymore. It
seems like you've got skitch. The teams have been scheduled
more for convenience than anything else. Okay, most of the
teams come from the Metro Atlanta area. And again, you
don't have any South Georgia representation in the Quirky Kill.

(21:15):
And I want to hear what you guys have to
say about that.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, so let me go ahead and read some of
those comments. And I'm gonna go back up to some
of the older ones too that we're talking about the
seven and seven. But since you're on the topic of
Quirky Hill right now, let me read with Roster Sutherland said.
He said, Quirky Keil is a money grab for those
guys involved, and not worth it anymore. The games last
year and on paper this year are snoozers.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Hello, thank you, thanks, thanks for the backup. They are
and Mazzarie, we'll see if we can pull up the
slate of games on the court as part of the
Quirky Keill. But you guys that have followed high school
football for a while, most of you have that are
watching the show, you know what I'm talking about. Yeay,
we're talking about looking forward to a a Lownes versus

(22:02):
Walton of Valdosta versus Buford.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'm just using some examples here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Now, the Lownes Walton game was the last game involving
a true South Georgia team and it was I think
three years ago and Lownes lost to Walton. I think
it was overtime. Good game, good match up.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, Yeah, Stevens Tate says it has gone downhill badly
see here. Oh but I thought I was funny. He says,
Hoko is Middle Georgia.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Hello, thank you, thank you, Obadi.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
But last year I J Rosenberg Again, I'm not trying
to pick on him, but I j said, we're so
thrilled to be reaching out to the southern to South
Georgia as we have Houston County part of the Corky
Gil Classic. And I just remember reading that thinking, say
what again, let's get him.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Out, brother.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Housing County is middle Georgia. It is not Southern Georgia.
And again I do like, of course, I do like
Houston County. I'm a fan of Jeremy Edwards and Houston County.
I forget who they're playing. They're part of the Quirky
Keel this year. Oh nice, but yeah, but for the
most part, these these these these matchups are duds.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Jerrell Marbury says it's a big entrance fee. And then
as Maurice also said, I think a lot of teams
have gone out of their way to schedule their own
big games for the first week instead of participating in
things like Krky Kills. So can you speak on them,
because I know we were talking about earlier. I guess you
could say the interest view of ticket hills.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, So can you explain that a little bit further.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, And Donnie Jarvis, I think is saying the same
thing Mazani. Donnie Jarvis says, too expensive for these high
school teams to go. So what it is okay to
get to be a part of the Quirky Kill Classic.
I'm sorry, the Quirky Kill Dave Hunter Classic. I want
to make sure to give credit where credit due. Dave
Hunter has been a mammoth of an individual when it

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comes to an icon in the state, when it comes
to high school football. So to be to get a
spot in the Corky Ko Classic, you've got to guarantee
it used to be four thousand ticket sales.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That is a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
And so if I'm just hypothetical here, if you're talking
about four thousand seats at eight dollars apiece, that's thirty
two thousand dollars I believe check my mouth on that
pretty sure, right, thirty two thousand dollars. Now, that's still
if four thousand ticket sales are the minimum. I know
that's what Lowndes had to come up with four thousand

(24:40):
three four years ago when they were part of the
Corky Killing. Guess what didn't make it? And I'm not
saying anything that's not on record. I mean it's, you know,
not revealing something that top secret.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
I ain't. Louns maybe sold one thousand seats. No knock
on Lounes certainly. I mean, I think that's pretty good
to sell a thousand.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, it's given how far you have to travel.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And this game was played at the dome.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, so guess what if you sold let's just say
two thousand and you you're required to.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Sell four thousand tickets. Well, guess what.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
That's two thousand tickets you got to eat because you
have to guarantee X amount of dollars. And that's what
who was it again talked about the was it Donnie Jarvis?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Uh? Let me see here. Yeah, you said too expensive
for these high school teams to go.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Donnie Jarvis talking about and the entry fees same thing.
You basically have to guarantee. You gotta pay X amount
of dollars to get into the Quirky Kill.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Mm hm. Yeah, that's what Jerrell Mowbray was saying too.
He says, he's I know, my old school is gonna go,
but the interest fee is high and you have to
sell certain amount of tickets for some school you lose money.
So that is very true. Like you were just.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Mentioning, Miszoni, what does Evan Reache having to say? Let
me see here, Now, these non region games have actually
become competitive unlike the way they used to be. A
great point, that's something I pointed out.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
You want to pick Have you got this conversation? Have
you got there.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's it used to be that you will only see competitive,
non reagion games in places like Quirky Keil. But now
that's kind of like his point that he was mentioning
earlier that a lot of these teams instead of going
to the Quirky Kill Classic, he says, they have their
own big games for the first week. Yes, so you
still pull out a big crowd, you still get a
competitive fight without having to pay or lose money going

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to Quirky Kill Classic.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Right, And look, football is already having to foot the
bill for most of the other sports at any school.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's just a fact.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So if you cannot maximize the revenue from your football
and remember, you only got ten games, okay, that's about
seeing regular season games. So you've only got ten games
in which to know that you're going to benefit from
ticket revenue. And let's face it, that's the line share

(27:05):
of the money, okay, that comes into your football program,
which again has got to foot the bill. For soccer, girls, tennis,
they just don't produce revenue, you know, I mean they don't.
So that's that's another consideration that you got here, Yeah,
in that you've got to make money football high school

(27:27):
football is a money making deal, and you're not in
the business I'm having to give away money just so
you want your team to be a part of this
showcase event, right, Yeah, I get the exposure as good.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I get the fact that you're playing under the dome.
That's another thing.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Not all these games, you know, it used to be
where the games were pretty much centered at the what
used to be the Georgia Dome.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Nasmer City has been stated. Yeah, and look, I'm sure
from I J. I. J.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Rosenberg standpoint in the Corky Kill Dave Under Classic, they've
got to pay probably be a pretty good bit of
revenue of a rent to the Dome, which is why
they've got to have that guarantee. I'm not saying what
they're doing is wrong. I'm not because they've got to
have the money to make this event work.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, earlier I was also asking you, like I wonder
if they ever thought about possibly having the Quirky Kill
somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, and so now they do have it at other stadiums. Okay, yeah,
they do, they do.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's not not all of it is at the Mercedes
been Stadium. They've got the games that are actually being
played at the individual school station.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
But now let me ask you this, so what what
how does that make it now a classic? If you're
just yeah, guys, I.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Don't want to sound like I'm Debbie Down or here.
Do you know what I'm talking about when I say Dibbie.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Down before the character on Saturday Night, Lie, it was
the most hilarious thing you've ever seen in your life.
This lady is she just moans in your owns about everything,
no matter what it is.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Anyway, I don't want to sound like that character, but
it is funny in a way that you've got these classics.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
You can call it whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, maybe this the name doesn't hold as much weight
as it used to.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you. That's what I was trying to.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Say, Stephen k Win, Though it seems like he was
mentioning a good game. He said, Lee County played Jones
County in the twenty sixteen Quaky Cull Classic. Did you
get a chance to do you remember that game back
in twenty sixteen? Six a minute, Let's see.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I think wasn't that game played at in at Veterans Stadium?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Am I? Let's see what he said, Stephen? Am I
remembering that. In other words, wasn't it played at a
different site? Now? Again, to me, at the Quirky Kill.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Classic should be a game that is played in a
venue like the like you said, the Mercedes Been Stadium.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
What's he saying?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, I was looking at Jerrell Mowbray's comment, and even
Stephen k Win. Jerrell said, try UGA one year in
Georgia Southern next year. And then also Stephen k Winn
says they used to play games at Mercer University. So
I'm like, what if you could pull it off at

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these college stadiums.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Okay, so Mercer, I know, Hell was hosting the the
g I s A State championship games.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Steven's right now, they did play I think there were
some of the I'm not sure if it was the
Corky Kill. I think there was another showcase event that
was played at Mercer University stadium. So that is good.
I'm cool with that. Yeah, but you know, make it
live up to its name a classic.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, give me something that's going to represent the game
as a classic, not just because the game is being played,
you know, in a stadium where it would be played anyway. Yeah,
you know, what I'm saying, you're just doing that and
say we're gonna call this part of the classic.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, I think the idea about having it at the
college game. I mean, college stadiums are nice, and then
you know, you could save the Mercedes Being Stadium for
the actual state championship, you know, game making a big
deal at the end of the year. Yeah, you know,
I mean, just be grateful to go there. But instead
of having it at just another high school stadium, having

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it at a college and you know the I think
the GI you said G I S A or something
that was held at you know, they held those at
Georgia Southern this past year. What's that the private school?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And yes, the g I S A state championship game exactly. Yes.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now, I used to call when val Wood made the
state championship games went up to Mercer University. And let
me tell you, it is one of the nicer venues
in the state. I wish I wish they would utilize that.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
M HM for sure.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
So look, by the way, you Orgious Southern stadium that
you're talking about, they host the Erk Russell Classic every year.
Now that's a big deal. Okay, And sly Hanger to
second body. I then we got you on the line,
Michael Lotta hey Field, do you have any Gainesville gear

(32:17):
and go big red? So, Michael, when I was up
there for the Gainesville Milton broadcast or live stream that
we did this past year, Adam Lindsay, the athletic director,
presented me with a Gainesville pullover and that's all I got.
So if you got something you want to send me, brother,

(32:37):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Jerry Harrison checking in was up Field, Monroe Area checking in?
It was up Jerry loved to hear from my friends
at Monroe Area.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I wanted to throw this question back back to seven
on seven because I didn't want to let it go unread.
It was from George House. George Choles lamons He says,
il seven Uh, seven on seven is a good thing.
Is it builds up kids confidence and it gets kids
a lot of exposure, especially on the national seven on

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seven teams. And then, oh gosh, my comments will.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
All the way back. Now, let's welcome in while you're
leaking for that.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Uh for our friend, friend of the show, personal friend
of mine, and of course I'm talking about the former
athlete creator from Milton. He joins us every week to
join in our conversation as coach slide checking in coach,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Man?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Are we doing this evening? Everybody?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Good? Good? What do you think about the New Time?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
What do you think about the New Time?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I do like it a lot. Actually, I think I
think it'll be more convenient for some people. And uh,
ain't something any dinner and then get on there.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, speak for yourself.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well we're throwing some child down as soon as I
get out of here, I can tell you that. But uh, anyway, Yeah,
we're glad to have you and guys, let me know
what y'all.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Think about the New Time. We another thing.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think it's gonna be inducive to having a lot
of people be able to join us, because right now
we would.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Be signing off.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So here we are, you know, just coming on a
few minutes ago. So glad to have everybody on board. Sli.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
We're talking about the really the quirky kill classic if
you want to call it that, and it's picked up
a good bit of a stimulated, a pretty good bit
of conversation. So Mazzani and I we're just gonna kind
of throw you into the conversation as we still have
some comments coming in and I saw one coming here.

(34:32):
Did you mention Jerrill by rotating it every year?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Oh no, I just saw that comment. So he wants
to rotate the location every year of the Quarky Tail Classic.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Which again not a bad idea, but now this thing
has splintered out, the Quirky Kill has and I don't
know how it's several different sites now. Then again, they're
playing part of these games just at one of the
two teams stadium. And I just to me that that's
not a classic. If it's if it's a Corkio Classic,

(35:01):
you should be played at one big venue or two. Yeah,
as long as it's you know, make it something special. Yeah,
take me away from the one of the two teams
home stadium. Yeah, and let's go somewhere else and let's
just make it a showcase of.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Men kind of like a neutral ground.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, it s at your thoughts. Let's get you in
the conversation talking about the Corkio Classic and with classic
uh being very questionable.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, you know, playing in it two years in a row.
The first year you played in it was at Georgia State,
and it was. It was a really good game. It
was really interesting. We played Archer and UH helped get
us on the map for sure. The second year supposed
to play in the When That Brave Stadium, but it
got rained out, so we want up doing a coin
toss and won. It played at home against Beuford. It

(35:51):
took a lot. It took a little bit away from
the game for sure, being at your home stadium, even
even in their stadium, but it took a lot. I
don't think it made it to Phill's point as much
as as a special classic as it would have been.
And now it's like, like like Phil said, it splintered
out with Zani's two different like like five or six
sites now right, and I think it starts like on
a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
So I think it lost that that luster.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
And I hate to say that because I do like
ISJ and Dave like, I just think it. I don't know,
get back to maybe some North South games or some
South Georgia teams playing Metro that'd be fun, or something
out of state teams coming in playing some really good
teams from the state of Georgia, North End South. I
think we got to get South back in the game
a little bit as well as South end of the state,

(36:35):
but it would help, And.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I agree you have it more like uh South versus
North teams would be nice to watch.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah, And I think when the Corky Kio first came out,
I think there was a lot of that. You know,
you had a listen to me, it should represent some
of the more non conventional, non traditional games, like a
Lounge versus Walton. Okay, Okay, like a Valdosta versus Again
I'm just hypothetically, or let's say a Valdosta Milton. Who

(37:04):
wouldn't love to see something like that? Okay? To me,
that's the kind that's the caliber of games that we
should have that should be reserved for a classic, an
event that has classic in its name. I just I
just think let's just don't rely on the thing being
called a class if it's not.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, And Obadiah he has a question for you, coach lot.
He says, did you have to sell a certain amount
of tickets to play in it? And I think that's
a good question. And I'm going to also add to that,
like the second time you mentioned that you went to
the Quirky Colt class that, but you ended up having
to play it at home. Did that affect any of
the ticket sales or how that? How did that go?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Did you still have to sell a minimum amount of tickets?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Lighting till I ain't got? I mean I ain't. I'll
let coach and answer the question. But O, but I
I talked about that earlier. I'm not sure if you
didn't hear the the my conversation or not. But minimum
ticket sales are a requirement.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
But go ahead, slat fils correct, they'll but that a
great question. So, yeah, they're they're a minimum requirement. It
comes out to like, look at don't quote me, I'm
getting old and I forgot is full of years ago.
But it comes out to like three or four thousand
tickets you have to sell, which comes out to like
thirty two thousand dollars not more. Yeah, it's a it's

(38:23):
a lot of it's a lot of money. And if
here's the thing, if you don't sell them, it's not
to present that check, right, and money has to go
and you have to come through with that money. So
what a lot of schools do to Obdi's point, if
they can't sell those tickets?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Right?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
And people don't have the money. I know it's probably
more than that for ticket. Just give me a ballpark figure.
Then you got to kind of push down to your
theaer programs or your community, right and now it's now
it costs some money to me the ROI. Your first
year we did it was amazing. It was worth it.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
We got us on the.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Map, played a great Archer team, great venue. After that,
my boss I think would have probably fired me if
I kept on putting that money out and you know,
and not getting the ROI back to the school. So
it definitely did it. It definitely did its point or
is worked the first year. I think I would like
to see them trying to figure that out financially, and

(39:12):
I'm not sure how they can do it because that's
their gig. Where it's you know, you don't have to
sell minal amount of tickets. It's cheaper for teams to
jump in there, especially some of the schools they don't
have the communities. They'll buy tickets. I mean, I know
they'll travel anywhere. I get it, but let's face it.
You know, you you want to travel to Metro Atlanta
from South Georgia to play a non region game and
a classic unless it's a really good team.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Probably not right.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I mean, it's it's all to Phill's point, it's a
lot of moving parts to get that classic back to
a classic. But it definitely at one point was one
of the best around.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
It really was. Somebody mentions let me see here.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
They said, thank you for having the show at six pm.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yes, I saw that. That's one thing I was gonna
point out. Guys again, man, let me know, I appreciate that.
Who said that, Yeah, I saw that. Thank you for
the for the compliment. I really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
And again we're wanting to know from you guys, how
do you like the new start time.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I'm hoping that it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Received better than our five start time, I think, so, yeah,
I know that comes pretty early, So let me know
what you guys think.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
We've obviously got a couple of feedback.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
That was Robert Tyler, by the way, thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, thank you. Robert. Appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Somebody else had asked a question here about the Corky kill.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Here we go, Rosser Sutherland, by the way.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Drell Mavery says, Phil, We've got to get you a
Carver Columbus helmet Hey, we're gonna be over there. Well
I'm not, but my boss Mark, and are you going
to I have not heard about it so much. So
Carver Columbus, we're going there to interview the coach, some players,
the principal. Try to reach Pierre Coffee today and was

(40:57):
not able to get ahold of him, but we talked Friday,
and anyway, we're going to there. We're trying to make
it around to all the state champions to talk to
the coaches, players, admin and just kind of reflect on
the state championship season. Yeah, so I'm going to see
if my boss can get a Carver Columbus football helmet

(41:19):
from coach Coffee. I'm hoping that between you and my
man Deshaun Suggs, that will not be a problem.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
So DeShawn has really been a big help. And hopefully
he's on the show today.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I don't see his name, but anyway, Roster Sutherland, I'd
rather have home and home games. Hey, Phil, remember when
y'all came to Northcut Stadium to start the twenty twenty
one season, when Cockwood came to Marietta. That was a
great game, Roster, it was. We actually also did Camden

(41:51):
at Marietta that I think was our very first game
we'd live strength. Oh wow, Camden County at Marietta. Wow,
it really was. It was a great game. And the
next year it was the same thing. Uh it was,
like Roster said, it was Cockwood County at Canyon. So

(42:14):
those right there are perfect examples of what the Quirky
Kill Classic should be.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Okay, you mean I'm having me like home and Home.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well, just the fact that you've got to South Georgia too.
And I love to throw Camden in the South Georgia. Yeah,
you know, the Southeast coast. But still I'll put them
in there. So you those to me are they're they're
non traditional matchups. Yeah, And and Roster, you can help

(42:45):
me out on this. I don't know how many times
Marietta and Camden or Marietta and Cockwood played each other
except for the playoffs when they met, but as far
as a regular season matchup, no, But those are games,
Mazani coach slaw and you guys, those are the type
games that are true showcase game. Those are the games

(43:09):
that belong in the Corky Kill class.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I agree hundred percent. So I think that's that's my point.
Look at you can have some really good metro teams.
If you want to play some kind of like backyard brawls,
you know, in the city itself, that'd be kind of
cool too.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
But you got to have them where.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
It's it's diverse, it spread out, it's it's different locations
in different regions, different areas of the state. And to
your point, though, I think it's it's the ones that
aren't usually played, rarely played maybe unless it's maybe an
obscure playoff game that you want to see, those are
the ones you want to make that's a classic here here.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Andrew Caraway says the two southernmost teams in the Corky
Kale are Callaway and Lagrange.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
West Georgia is often left.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Out of these games, as it is the Savannah area.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I was just talking about the Savanna area earlier. Now
they don't have any body from that area playing those games, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
And you're right, that's that's another area that gets left
out is Savannah. Now to offer a little bit of
defense here, Okay, Savannah traditionally has not been a hot
bed for for football. You got you, but yeah, but
I understand your point. Just trying to maybe do a
count a point counterpoint here.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
So if say ij was to come back with, well,
here's why you know we didn't include that area, that
he could probably make that defense and I and he'd
be right. Yeah, Savannah is really known for its uh
it's basketball and baseball. It's kind of interesting, which you know, again,
that would be another great story at some point to
focus on how the different areas geographically of the state

(44:50):
produce different dominant sports.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
That's true, That is so true. I feel like South
Georgia doesn't really dominate in basketball.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
True.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I hope one day that changes, but right now there's
a lot of like great basketball and Columbus and like
more North Georgia area it is basketball.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 5 (45:14):
I agree for sure, you know, but as you're talking,
I'm kind of laughing to myself because when Mazani and
Phil yourself talk about South Georgia, you talk about obviously Valdosta,
Lowns area, cold Quit I think anything and and not
but me, but people in Metro Atlanta, if you're south,
if you're south of Macon, your South Georgia.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
All right, So now, yeah, Housing County though it is
Middle Georgia's like come on.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Right, it is.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Yeah here I'm making light of it is, but I
think of Brunswick, Savanna.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I still think of that is in my head.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Is South Georgia, Oh, no question, even though it's even
though you're a southeast coast and you're over there by
you know, that area over there by Glenn Academy and
the Glenn County. But anyway, I just thought that was
kind of people in metro if you go south to
Dane Griffin, Deckers, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Uh, didn't you make that point earlier?

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Say that was the point he said south of Griffin.
Didn't you say the same thing earlier? Didn't you say
Griffin south of Griffin?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Maybe maybe I'm.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Making that up, But anyway, Yeah, a lot of people
feel that way, you know. Again, but see here's the
point it goes to goes back to being isolated. Yeah,
and not again, I'm not taking shots here, I'm just
pointing out facts here. When you when you say that
Houston County is in southern Georgia, to me, that that
means you don't really have a true understanding of the state.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Or different regions and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Right, So come on, you know, don't don't don't be
accepting of the fact that because we've got a team
from Houston County in the Corky Kill, that that has
satisfied our Yeah, our need to have a South Georgia team. Well, well,
by got it, we got it. It's Houston County Bears.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Okay, wait a minute, let's go with Valdosta, lowndes Hey,
Camden County again. They would be perfect for the KRKI Kill.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I just talked about these two games that we did
back to back seasons, opening up with Camden at Marietta
Caukwood at Marietta.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Again, not to beat this thing over and over, but
those are the kind of games.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
That would fit into a showcase event, a KRKY Kill
Classic type event.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, let's make that happen for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Not again, I don't mean to take shots of these
these guys.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Look at the lineup and again, maybe we can pull
it up at some point here during the show.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
But the lineup for this year Skorky Kill is it's
just not very attractive.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I know a lot of people were saying, well, one
person mention, Benjamin Allen Pears, is saying South Georgia invests
more money in football and baseball, so maybe that's why
we don't produce so well in basketball. I mean, we
do have our a couple of standout players, but it's
not anything like you know, Atlanta area as far as
basketball ovid.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I's got a question for the coach.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
What is your dream matchup in high schoo football in
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Dream matchup Milton versus anybody? No, I'm liking dream matchup? Wow?
Some I mean I think you have to throw.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Like I'll take you mine. Maybe a kind of kickstart
if you want to think about it for a second.
Go ahead, guys, how about Milton and my modern day.
I want to write a story on that, not predicating
a winner. I just want to do a hypothetical on it.
You know, talk to the coaches. But anyway, I think

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it'd be a great game.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
This this this past year, would have an amazing game.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Right just because I got that off, I'm looking at
like a you know, let's just go north south. Let's
keep milling out equations. Let's go with like a graation
or a baut Bridge. Let's go put them against uh
against Lee or Thomas Kunty Central or maybe even uh
maybe in colquit.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I like that, and let me let me take it
a step further. So this used to be in play
in Georgia and I want to get y'all us, I
want to get Mazzani sly and I want to get
the viewers answer on this a little impromptu poll here.
How would you guys feel about there being a South

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Georgia champion, a North Georgia champion and then those two
teams playing.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Each other for the state title. Again, it used to
be it used to be that way.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, yeah, I believe. I remember my dad told me
about that, yep a while back.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
And again we're going back aways and I understand it's
maybe easier said than done.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
However it has been done.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, it has been.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So so what do y'all think about it? Guys?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Let me get your feedback? As I asked, you know,
Slah and Mazani for their feedback.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Do you think that could kind of be a version
of receding?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Good point, which I'm a big fan of receding, is
you know it's a lie.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah, I think it can happily happen. I think what's
it happened before?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Because it was there was not in many schools, right,
and I think our classifications now, I think that's expanded
over the years with a number of schools, especially in
the metro, and then the classifications and reclassifications to your point,
you know, it's not a I mean, look at either way.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Here's the thing I.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Tell people all you got to play each other eventually
to win it. So whether you play it early and
then you meet halfway down the middle when you played
it for the chate championship, or you play early in
the playoffs you knock them off and you play for
state championship. Either way, you got to go through each other.
You got to play the best you know to be
the best, right And I know it's a cliche, but
it's so true.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
So I mean I think it's definitely as possible.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Okay, So I pulled up some of the schedule for
the games. Yeah, yes, yeah, you have four days of
just football.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Well and that's the good thing about it, okay. And
you know, I know last year it started on a Wednesday,
also on slot earlier. I actually listened to UH it
was killed and was it Lagrange.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Mm hmmm, it was.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I think you listened to West prest Scythe and UH
and Prince Avenue Christian.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Was listen you listened to last year?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, that was it. That was it.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You're right, absolutely right. So you know what I like
that game? Prince Avenue, Prince any Christian? Right is what
you said?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, PhD Pac beat West at their place.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
That's right. Uh it's pretty significant win too, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yes? It was it was well yeah, and that we
talked earlier.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
I think West had the number and they had the depth,
but Pac had a little more talent and just you know,
uh post him eventually at the end.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Was that h did they have the big tight end.
I'm trying to remember his name. Uh, West had the
big tidy end went to Georgia.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
So this was after that that brother Delf plays his brother,
younger brother Delt plays. Now the older Del already graduated
before that game.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Okay, I got you, But I was just in there
trying to think that maybe that's another attraction. If you've
got a big name player, big time player, then that
could be an attraction for trying to get some of
these teams in the quirky kill.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
So Mazzani, what you got ahead?

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Go ahead, I'm sorry to your point. I'm sorry to
touch off.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Del did get recruited highly out of that game years
ago when he played in the years ago, the Quirky Keil,
when delp was out West the older del Yes, Dad
got him on the map and he went from being
a non recruit to being recruited. So exposure is great, right,
you get exposed. Sure, that's a great thing. To your point,
Phil up, Phil, I think that's a great point that

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you can get exposure. Also the space that you can
get exposed as well.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Just saying that a great point. You can get the
exposure or you can get exposed. I love it, all right, Mazzoni,
what you got.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
We're looking a link at take a look at some
of these Quirky Killed matchups this year.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, so on August thirteenth, and this is it, says
at kel for a four thirty pm me High Prince
Avenue Christian versus Callaway. And then later that day you
have South Pauling versus Kill. So again that's not going
to be at the Mercedes Benz Stadium.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Okay, and listen again, I understand these programs involved are
are thankful and glad, but somebody tell me how that's
making the needle move amongst Georgia High School for any
of y'all that are watching this show right now, Does

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North paul is North Paulding and kill it is?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yes, South Pauling versus.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Kel Does the South Pauling get killed? Does that get
you guys excited?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
What about Lebron Christian versus North Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I like that Lebron Christian. Of course, you're defending state
champion in the in the A three A private this
past year. Remember that was the first year of doing
that and Hebron Christian won it all. Jeff, uh wait
a minute, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Guess?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I don't know how you remember? Phil? I really don't.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I think Jeff Guess what any of the coach at
or was the coach at Hebron Christian hopeless?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
How people, I'm pretty sure Phil is right though.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Help me out, guys.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I think Jonathan Guests Jonathan Guess was the coach. So
it's kind of interesting that Hebron Christian upset Prince Avenue Christian.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh okay, yeah, and they're playing the day before Prince
Avenue Christian. You know they're going against Kyllaway.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Okay, So anytime you got a defending state champion that's involved, Okay,
I'm cool. With that because now you have a certain
degree of attractiveness.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Right, something attracts me to that game where hey, they're
the finis state champion. I want to say, if they
have got the moxie being a state champion still.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Again for this year?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, so slide your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Yeah, do they have that pedigree? Right? Because here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
When you play state champions and look, you know Lee's
been there, if you'd's been there, a bunch of teams
have been there. When you played teams that have won one,
two or three or played for many, they have something.
They have that Maxie, like you said, So they have
that that that if factor, you know, maybe the institutionalized

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legacy in there in their program that they have.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
So I think you want to see that in a
team like that.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Can they not only maybe I do it again because
back to backs are, but at least go out there
and represent that that classification and that region the right way.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I'm making of sense to. I think people forget about that.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
You know, when you play a team that just wins
year and year out, your kids can get mentally, uh
be pretty get in that field, right, and then the
team also comes out of the overswagger because they realized
they represent for the teams in the past.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
I mean, when that makes sense to you.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Sure, all right, guys, let's move on. Let's talk about
really the state of high school football in Georgia. Okay,
we're all three were talking about this earlier. There's no
question that Georgia, the state of Georgia high school football

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has changed.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Okay. I think the transfers, okay, the move ends have changed,
you know, have contributed to that. But overall is the game?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Do you guys feel as a decided about going to
a game as you used to. I think attendance is down.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I do agree with that. I think a tennis is
down for multiple reasons, one being not any knock towards
what it is because we do it with live streaming,
you know. But there's pros to live streaming because there's
a bunch of people who can't make it to the game,
you know, people and the other states, family members and
everything like that. But I do think some people don't

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attend the games because they know they can just watch it,
whether via US or NFHS.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So, and it's a good point. I've always been up
the mentality that if people want to go to the game.
They're going to go to the game.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
That's true, because it's definitely like live streaming can only
take you so far. It's a great source. But you know,
if it's a great game and you're you're watching a
great matchup, that electricity that you know the feel of
the game because you know, even when we're there, you
know we're live streaming the game, but at least we
feel the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Of the game one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah, there's no nothing like that, No nothing at all.
So yeah, I agree with what you said, though, but
I do think that's a little factor as to.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Why people no doubt, no doubt think I think this
factory and sly. I want to get your thoughts, you know,
and you're coming at it from the admin side as
well as the coaching side, and.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
You know, I mean, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I I just think that live streaming has maybe contributed
to some of the decline, but not all of the client.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
What are your thoughts, lit, I think there's a little bit.
I mean, there's definitely a truth to Amazon and no doubt,
but I think there's this It's not it's like you said,
it's a very it's one of the small percentages of
why it's taken away. I think something has to do
with the fact that people are not promoting their programs
like they should, right. I mean, you know, you as

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an administrator as and not as a coach. Even as administrator,
you're gonna promote your programs. The communitits to promote the
program and get around and wrap themselves around that program
right when you are losing, right, I mean this past year. Now,
when you have players and market players, that helps, Like
I don't feel I talked to her. If you just
say Luke, you can say Nickel, you know who it is.
You have to put the name together. You just say
a Nickel kid, you know who he is. And and

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we have people come from across the state. We have
somebody come to sidelines and wanted to pick the remove
towards the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
It came three hours. Yes, yeah, for a son of
picture because the hurricane fan.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
I think you have those type of players and you
market it properly. That's important.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
And and a lot of schools, not just us, I'm
giving my example, but so many schools do that very well.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
And then and then some don't and then and unfortunately,
you know, if you get comfortable, complacency will kill you.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
It's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
That is so true.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Let me throw it a couple of things real quick.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
But so I can remember when games, for the most
part started at eight o'clock, that was the kickoff.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
And then slowly more and more and more programs began
doing seven thirty kickoffs. Oh yeah, Now, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
You know, to me, most people, most working people are
not you know, you're not doing nine to five, okay.
A lot of people are getting off at six o'clock
or six point thirty, okay, somewhere around there. And by
the time you get home, you know, get a shower,
get whatever, and maybe you want to go eat before

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the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I mean true, seven.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Thirty is a tight window. Yeah, when you get off
work until the game. I don't know if that has
had much of an impact.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I think it has.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That extra thirty minutes can really go along way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I think it can. I really believe it can. Yeah,
So that's one thing to take into consideration. Here's something
else I'm gonna throw out, and I want to get
y'all's view, and it's a little radical.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
But I think in the cases where teams have renovated
their stadiums, I understand the need for progress.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah okay, I don't want to be the guy sitting
here saying, oh, we don't need.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
But I think in the case of like Valdosta, I
think once they renovated Basemore Hiers Stadium, they also exercised
a lot of the demons that used to be present
on Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
That would certainly add to the mystique of playing in
that stadium. And you can call me crazy, you're not,
but I will always believe. Just ask anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Look the old Basemore Hider Stadium aka Cleveland Field, nothing
like it is today today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Is this nice, big, cavernous, warm, inviting venue. That's fine,
but far.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
As home field advantage, now, I mean you go into
the Basemo Hider Stadium before. Yeah, man, that was an
intimidating place to play. And the records speak for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
When was it renovated? Do you remember what I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Think it was? Like ninety You know, I'm just guessing.
I don't. I don't know. Somebody gonna have to step
up and help me out on that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
But that's just one of you know Tiff County when
they renovated Brody Field, they switched sides. They turned the
home side into the visitor side because that's where they get.
But that's coming off the state championship of nineteen eighty three.
Jean Brody came to town, came from Central Making, brought

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this whole new staff, a whole new excitement for football fans.
High school football in Tiff County. They had they want
to state championship. They had players going to Commune.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
And then they built the stadium over built it, okay,
thinking that the state of the town and the football
program and the excitement for thereof was going to continue
to grow and grow and grow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
It did not. The stadium is too big. And what
you've got now, with football and overall.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Attendance on the decline, you've got a stadium that is
speaking of cavernous. It's kind of embarrassing to see the
fans that are in that big, old stadium. Yeah, but
under perfect conditions, it would take a lot to fill
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah, So I want to get y'all's thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
I do think there's something to the renovation of stadiums,
taking away from some of the mistake and fans lose
an interest.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, I think it's a lot of factors that play
into that, and I agree with also with coach Slide
was mentioning about marketing and how you have to really
market your program because I was looking here at Evan
Reese's comment it says people have more they can do
on Friday nights Now. I feel like high school football
doesn't have the same priority used to unfortunately, And I

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think that does go back to marketing because I remember
growing up in Valdosta. You know, what were you doing
if you weren't going to a football game on a Friday,
whether it was Loundes or Valdosta, you know, that was
like the main event to go to. I mean, you
could probably rob a store because we know all the
police are at the game, you know, so but like
you know, it hasn't been that long ago, you know.

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But yeah, I think marketing and you know, every program
that have their natural up and flow, but when things
are down, things are down, and how do you build
your program back up? How do you market that vision? Again?
How do you market your team? Because like you, like
coach lough I mentioned, you could you know, you know
when you say Luke, you know who you're talking about.
When you say Nicol, you know who you're talking about.

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People want to go out and watch this talent, you know,
So how can you bring the fans out? How can
you make it a priority again? Football priority again on
Friday night?

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
And to your point was on a great point. I
do think too that student sections, that's a huge thing.
To your point, you know, Friday night, if you were
a kid, you were going to the game. I see
so many times, even in Milton, and I hate to
say it, but there's times when our student seption is
not the way I want it to be. And I'm like,
we got to get these kids out here and and

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and and get more excitement because a lot of rather
just go to a party and they say, oh, you're
gonna win anyway, We'll go to party and we'll stay afterwards.
I'm like, why don't you come to games support your
fellow athletes. We try to get these cross athletes. We
try to get girls across team and baseball guys and
basketball guys out there and girls to support them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
And then during the season of basketball and the crop
they support each other.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
So I think that's also one thing that schools have
to do is get that culture inside the school to
support each other. But to your point, Bill too, you
said seven thirty times we had a five o'clock kickoff
in the Freedom Ball few years ago and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
It was Thompson versus Beuford. Place was sold out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Wow, I think if you get the right teams, people
will come. But to your point, convenient wise, if we're
trying to get this back up and running, even eight
o'clock kickoffs not a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, And I don't want to say that so again
now that you know that that is a special game,
a special event. Yeah, And I think again that's the
difference that we're talking about here when you're talking about
the exceptional games like a Thompson versus Who.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Okay, at that big time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
So you could play that thing at wan and in
the morning and it is gonna be full, you know
what I mean. So I see what you're saying, slide.
But you know, again, I think just you know, you're
you're running the meal game, you know, Milton versus Alpharetta,
you know, eight o'clock. I just think that you know,
giving fans the time to get home, eat, take the

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kids to the babysit or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I think it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
But for sure, justin Kyle Haley, I used to travel
north but I don't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
I would drive three hours.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
But with certain teams getting recruits in twenty plus D
one players on a team, I can wait and watch
them in person at the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
They dominate, so they'll be there. That's one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Uh Evan rees. People have more they can do now
on Friday nights. I feel like high school football doesn't
have the same priority it used to unfortunately. And I
think he's got a point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, for whatever reason, That's what I was speaking to earlier,
because I was like, what else When I was younger,
you know, maybe like elementary school. I was like, what
else are people doing on a Friday night?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
And people are gonna be at the at the game,
but it's not like that now. He has a point.
And I was saying, coach ly, he made a great
point about, you know, about marketing, and he also mentioned
the student session. And I've been to games at different
schools where the student session is basically non existent. How
does that happen? The student session is basically non existent?

(01:07:51):
I'm like, how does that happen because when I was
in high school, the big thing for us was to
be a dupster. That's what we called it. We got shirts,
we had our dupester name on the back. I was
in bands, so I couldn't be in the stands, but yeah,
I still got a shirt. And you know, that was
just a thing to do. And even during basketball season,
you go to those games, you know. So I think
it's very important for students, especially student athletes who play

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different sports, to all come out and support each other.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Absolutely, Over that Farley and I think he's talking about
the Quirky Kill Classic matchups.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Do you see that comment?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
To see that one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
If they continue going down that road that they're going
picking these certain teams, the Classic will deceased. And I
think that's exactly what's happening. Ob Look, this year's Corky
Kill and I keep having to put classic in these
these fake quotation marks. If y'all can see me, listen,

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it's the same matchups as it was last year, except.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
For one team. M hmm. I mean, come on, be
a little innovative here, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Just yeah, listen, And I think Overdy's got a good point,
you know it may be this may be fading out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Well, a lot of things have faded out with football lately. Well,
you don't want to have to talk about change again.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
You're right, and you know what, almost you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Every other showcase event that I can think of that's
pretty much gone by the wayside. Camden County used to
have host a I can't remember what the name of
it was, but it was a It was a big event.
They would have teams from all around. It was South
Georgia versus North Florida teams. It fizzled out. Camden used

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to host a South Georgia. It was a South Georgia
Classic and it had teams from South Georgia versus.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
North Georgia, which I think is what people like to see. Yeah,
and it lasted, I don't know, four or five years
and poof is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
So to your point, that's what's happening a lot of
these showcase events because you're not holding up the standards.
They're going by the wayside, and the difference with IJ
and what they're doing at the Quirky Go Dave Hunter Classic.
They got a pretty good bit of money back in them.
But and if it's money only then they're probably gonna

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make it because they're willing to take a and you
know some of the teams that are in at Kale Cambridge, whoever,
those schools will probably be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Able to meet the minimum take it sales go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I was mentioning earlier, earlier, you know, we were talking
about seven on seven and how popular that's becoming with
these tournaments and things of that nature, and maybe it's
becoming too competitive. But with the nature of football and
the landscape and how it's changing, do you ever think possibly,
Now this may be a little radical, but do you
see seven on seven becoming bigger than these classics?

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Are these you know, big game Jimboree and things of
that nature. You know, do you see?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I don't, but I see where you're going. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I don't think it's I don't think and because I
don't think it's gonna be any replacement for for the
game itself. Yeah, I really don't. I think seven on
sevens gives people, which I gotta say something. I've never
personally attended a seven on seven. I think it's more
for the teams. I don't think you have a lot
of fans that come out I may be wrong, but

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let's let's slide. I come in here and answer that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
There's some events, the national events get a good following,
especially with the rivals and different different you know, programs
like that and platforms like that that are out there
too to rate it well. You know, to your point, MAZONI,
we don't play in in shorts and you know in
football either, right, we don't play in underwhear. We played
with pads, So I think that that game will always

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be pure. But to Phil's point four of them, it's
really more of a glorified practice. It's a glorified you know,
skeleton drill quote unquote. There's no line involved, but it's
very competitive. It's become more competitive because of the fact
that there's some national teams playing and and and big
time players.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Playing in it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
So I think, like I said, I my feeling is
that there's a worth for it for sure, but it
can't it can't grow life with only either.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
I don't think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
M Kelly Minchell made an interesting comedy. He says, I
think we need a classic in South Georgia called the
IG Classic. You guys definitely keep us UF formed with
our student athletes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Thank you for saying that, Kelly, And I gotta tell you,
I'd love to kick start that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah, that would be nice when it one hundred percent.
I mean, why not? And look, I'm not I'm not
sitting here, you know, touting ore are shooting our own horn.
But you know this is where this is it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Yeah, our business is high school sports, and very few
people have been able to make a business out of
just high school sport.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
And you know, listen to it. Ain't may.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
It goes all to Mark Dykes, our our our founder,
our proprior. He is the guy that makes it happen.
And I'm glad to be on the team. But you
know what, Kelly's got a point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Why not? Yeah, and you know we're perfect for it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah, and the common you know, the topic we brought
up not too long ago about you know, some of
the best stadiums in the state. I think we have
some pretty good stadiums in the South.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Oh listen, let me tell you guys. So I'm glad
you brought that up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
I don't know how many of you guys have seen
the story on our on our our website, our website,
our Facebook page and and all of our social media s.
I don't know if you saw this or not, but
I wrote the story of the top high school football
stadiums in the state.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
It was largely objectional objective because you know, I mean,
how do you figure out which one's number one or whatever?
So I just ranked the top ones, not necessarily in order,
but you know, here're the ones. And the way I
did it was I took a lot of information and
gathering of information from you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
The fans. You tell me which ones are and why
they're the best. Do you guys know that that story has.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Become one of our most searched and read stories ever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Ever? And you know what does that say about people?

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Kind of goes back, guys, what we're talking about here
in the state of high school football. People are wanting
to hold on to what makes their team, their programs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Special, yes, the history behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
And we got so many comments about these stadiums. The Brickyard,
what is that is that Thompson? I don't know, guys,
help me out here with the Brickyard was one that
we that that you're truly ranked as one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Top ten, seemly because I got so many comments the
ghost of the brickyard.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
See, this gets back what I was saying earlier about
the the ghost to Cleveland Field. Yeah, once you renovated
that stadium, they were exercised.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
It's like the old tales of the old legends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You know. Yeah, I'm telling you that's something to that,
whether you want to believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Rare the mystery behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yes, well what the brickyard?

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
It was?

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
The stadium was built with bricks from the old school
building that burned down in nineteen thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Oh wow, you don't think that's got some some mistique
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yes, he does. And yeah, Justin Kyle Hooy confirmed as Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Okay, thank you, judge Jason. I appreciate that. Justin. I'm
sorry that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Definitely does have a misteak in a story to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Now, Justin, you've been around a lot, you know, I
want to hear your take on some of these stadiums.
But but sly, uh, what do you think about that? Man?
These these these stadiums.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
And it kind of goes into what we're talking about
with people being able to hang on to what's theirs
some ownership.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Yeah, I think history and legacy is hues.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
I think the you know, the old stadiums that have
that that just that mistique to your point about them,
whether it be how they were made, or whether it
be what they're made of, or whether it be the
teams in the past that's played there, or the players
in the past that have played there. Look at look
at just refer to the Orange Bowl, mamby the Hurricane.
The Orange Bowl Stadium I've been in numerous times in

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the seventies and they or in the eighties, that place
is a was a just a classic stadium. When they
tore it down to your points, Bill, a lot of
mistique went away with that, a lot, a lot of
the whole thing went away. That's so that's at a
bigger scale. But I do think if just it's just
proves to what you're saying is true.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Mm hmmm. I see, ob I has a question. He says,
what question for everybody? What is the loudest stadium in
the state. Is it excluding the Horns?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah, any of the loudest stadiums you guys have been to.
One game popped in my mind when he asked that question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
But I think Valdosta's has been very loud. Lownes, Yeah,
very loud.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I was thinking about that Winnersville game. I think it
was was twenty two. It was that Lowndes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I was there on the sidelines. Yeah, that things crazz Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
And that's like when you say packed, like super packed,
like standing room only. And I really want to say, like,
I was trying to talk to a student beside me
and I could barely. I could barely talk to him,
you know, because it was that loud.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
By the way, I want to give a shout out.
Luke Nelson aka Big Buford is in the house. Luke,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
My man? Luke's son plays for Beuford. Man, I canna
sell you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
I think Beford's gonna be really good this year, by
the way, just saying, but uh, anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
It's loot what you got man, Uh, yeah, be very
good this year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
He's got a three year in the fire there. Br
We just kind of bouncing around here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
I think it's that they're gonna be a heck of
a team. That first game with us up there will
be interesting. Uh you know, we're going up there and uh,
bring a bunch of young puppies to go to go
fight the giant.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
But it'll be fun. We're excited looking forward to it
for sure, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So another story I'm working on, just to bring out
these different points, guys. I've been working on, uh, some
of the highlights, some of the top season openers speaking
of the quirky kill class. Okay, not uh, but some
of the great season openers. And I did Calwick County

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hosting Benedicting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Oh yeah, that was nice. I remember we talked about
that last week.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Yes, what a great opener. Let's see, that's what I'm
talking about, non traditional. Matter of fact, first time these
two teams will have met as their existing programs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah. Now, Calwood County when they were known.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
As the Moultrie Packers Motue Pockets, they hosted Benedictin.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
I believe it was in nineteen twenty five or something.
Let me come on. So this is as far as
modern ned goes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
First two times or the first time these two teams
will have bet Yeah, so you've got that game and
of course my second installment in this little series I'm doing.
If you guys have got any top openers you want
me to write about, please send them my way. But
the other one now is going to be of course,
Milton heading over to Buford.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
OH to help open their brand new, state of the
art statum. Oh yeah, be lavable. Can you imagine the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I wish I could be there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Yeah, well we may be, never know, we may be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Our name is in the hat fingers crossed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I've talked to Tony Wolf, he says, Peel, I got
you on the list. We'll see if ESPN comes in,
probably gonna knock us off the ledge.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
But sly and that's guy. I mean, the team's got
to be stoked for that one, right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Oh yeah, we're fired up just as well as Rupert is.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
And uh, you know, anytime you can play a game
like that, that and a new stadium, I'm hoping your
theory works. Still feel the new stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Will have no much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
You know what. I was thinking about that as I
said that Helpless. I gotta tell you, I think that's
gonna be the exception. Sorry, buddy, I know, not just
for this game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I just think that this stadium, you know, I think
they've done it right. It's not over built.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Yeah, okay, I just think Basemore Hider Stadium and tiff
County stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Are two stadiums. They're very nice, but they were over built.
Now they have the amount of vacant seats is in
the thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Well, now it is, I would say for Valdosta now
it is. But I believe before, like you know, kind
of like early two thousands and maybe even as early
is twenty twelve, you know, to fourteen, it was pretty packed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Now the renovated stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Yeah, okay, okay, and fairness, I wouldn't hear then, so
you wouldn't know better than me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
But let me see here one moment here you guess.
So Justin cal Haley said, I like the list. Appreciate that. Justin.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Oh yeah, we're talking about the TOMPs stadiums. Yeah, this
story is lo on if you heard me or not,
this story is taken off unlike anything else we have
done ever. Uh, Justin cal Haley says, the Granite Bowl
is number one. Got a lot of people that commented
on the Granite Ball, for sure. That's the stadium that's got.

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I think it's a prison right outside.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
The ent front gate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
That's a little scary.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
I was that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Doublin in tombs. Tombs is the pit?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Yeah, I just saw that oh Man tied for second
and third on his list. Then he says, I would
have had Gainesville and the Orange Jungle over Coqwood and Dalston. Yeah,
you know, call Quit and I mean, I'm sorry a
Gainesville and the Orange Jungle did not make it. And
again I was surprised too, justin because I had uh

(01:22:18):
and I said that in the story. So because what
I did was I took it mostly from the people
that commented. Yeah, that's what That's kind of where I
got it from, because a lot of these places I've
never been to, Okay, but the big Orange Jungle. I
was surprised we didn't get more votes for it, as
well as Gainesville.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
By the way, I did hear from Adam lindsay he
was not happy. He's the ad at Gainesville.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
But anyway, some of the savings you've been to, coach
l and you Mazzani, Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
I would say the loudest one probably was I think
fourteen against cole Quit. Our game against Beef last year
at home was crazy, crazy environment. I'm not sure if
Luke was there, you can tell you that, though, Nelson,
that was a pretty pretty good avite the first half.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
What's the ranking in It was terrible were there and
then and then park View is always tough place to play.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
You know, play welcome when you get off the bus
at Parkview and you walk on that field to your
locker room, they play Welcome to the Jungle over the speakers.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Are you serious? And I love that?

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Started laughing, like.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
So you know they get that they got that crowd
back there. That could be something really cool too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I have a great story, uh, first game that I
did for Tiff County. I did Tiff County Blue Dellow
football on the radio and Tiff County went to Roswell
to open the season. And we get there very early, okay,

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and we get out of the car and I noticed
that I noticed, I hear this, this sound coming from
the gymnasy If you're familiar with Roswell, you've got the
football stadium and then you've got the Gymnasium is just
to the north of the stadium and it's kind of
down in a hole, but it's within walking distance of

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the stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
So I hear this commotion going on and I'm like,
what is that? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
You could tell it was a it was a the
stadium or the gymnasium was full of people. So I
go walking down. I've got all this blue Devil gear on. Well,
it turns out they're holding their pet rally. The student
pet rally is being held after school, and it is packed.

(01:24:40):
And I walk in the doors, the double doors at
the end of the gymnasium, you know, and as soon
as the crowd saw me, it was a cascade.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Of booze like you have never heard in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Oh listen, it was was fantastic. But that's what I'm
talking about when it comes to great venues. Even though
it was not technically the football stadium, that's still the
school student body was kicking it up and that's uh, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Good to say.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, has it been a while since you guys have
seen a great student pride like that? Our school pride,
you know, I feel like that's lacking a little bit now,
Miss dan Age.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
You remember we saw that in Benedictine. M remember the
student body the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I don't know if you were able to see that
or not. Down to our left student Benedictine is an
all boys school. Yeah, and uh, but they've got that
military you know, respect, and they were cheering on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Their guys on the football field.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
They were they were.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Another little tidbit about Benedictine. They lost. Uh, them boys,
when they lose, they run.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Oh yeah, I remember you telling me that. And we
saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
We did, We saw it. They ran gassers after the game.
There was no going into the locker room and licking
your wounds.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
They lost and so they run, And that apparently is
what happens when Benedictine loses again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Military discipline, he said, speaks for herself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, And a lot of people are saying that too,
like Evan agrees. He said, a student pride is dead.
And he also said they leave at halftime, which is true.
And then Jerry Harrison says, they don't do pet rallies
like we did in the eighties. And let me tell
you from my parents, who you know, they graduated in
the eighties. Yeah, oh my gosh. The way they explained
pet rallies in a way they said they had a
pet rally every week.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I graduated in the eighties. It was that same way.
It was wild.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Every Friday afternoon before the game, we assembled in the
gymnasium and it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
We only had pet rallies for big games. We did
not have a pet realier and I imagine if we
had a pet rally every week. Yeah, that's the way
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
So why what's your experience with that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Yeah, what I think happens is personally, I think I
talked about this for a little bit earlier off off air,
was we were almost creating academies. Right, we're creating these
schools where kids come, they playball for four years, they
played lacrosse, they played basketball, they played football, they play
whatever sport you want to plug in play, and they

(01:27:17):
want to go to college. Right, that's their graduate or
early graduate December. Don't even go to don't even go
to prom, and don't even don't even have a spring
with your with your senior class. I think that's that's
one of the problems that we're that we're seeing now
in this in this kind of new wave of high school.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Athletics per se. And I don't like it. And as
part of creating that, because we.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Wanted, you know, have teams that are good, and then
you have kids that that are that are so well
first in athletics that they just all they do is
come for you know, getting better. And I say, come,
I'm talking about kids that have been in your system,
kids that have played multiple sports.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
It's just it's just it's something that's not a positive thing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
And I ever reacht it. Beast you said it best too.
I think years ago pepp Rowary, we're big. We don't
do pep rollies hardly, Milton anymore done. We haven't done
them in the past a lot. Even for the big games.
You don't feel that much anymore. So I think we've
lost that part of it. And also to once again
to create that atmosphere. You're playing these national relevant games,
You're playing these teams that aren't from the area, and
some people don't want to see that. They want to

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don't want to see that team down the street. Right,
So there's pros and cons all that I'm giving that.
Just be kind my POV about that. What do you think, Waszani?

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
I think the high school experience is kind of expedited now.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Uh, it's really they don't really have.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Time to be present and enjoy the moment. I mean,
even for me, I'm grateful I did do a Roman
and I think you know, there's that should still be
an option a p IB, but you know, the main
goal now and focused now is to make sure you
get all your credits. And if you get it done early,
that's even better, you know, be an on agrad. These
are all great goals to go for, but you know,

(01:28:56):
sometimes everything is going so fast that you know, I've
been trying to tell younger people in my family, like, really,
just be a kid and enjoy your senior year, because
you're not gonna get it back. Go to prom at
least once, go to homecoming at least once. You could
still achieve all these big things being on a grad
go to school early, you know, while still being able

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to enjoy the moment with your friends, because these are
these are years that you're never going to get back.
But these are things that people talk about long after
they graduated from high school, about the pet rallies, about
prom they attended, or even if it was like a
horrible experience, it's something that you still remember, right. So yeah,
I just think the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Just the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Mass experience of your with your friends at school is
kind of kind of going to the wayside.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
I agree. I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
All right, guys, we got about a minute left to
go in the show Big Success. I want to thank
everybody for hanging in there with us. This is our
new start time, six o'clock. I hope everybody likes it. Obviously,
we're coming giving you guys a chance to get to
the show. I know my man Luke Nelson was still late,
but that's okay, better late than ever. This is the

(01:30:08):
point of the show, though, where I give well each
of us a chance for the final word. And with that,
who wants to go first? I'd say what, I'll go first? Yeah,
and then you guys can be thinking about what you
want is your final word? Phil's final word? Not a
surprise is the coaching carousel in the state of Georgia. Guys,

(01:30:31):
What is going on with this state attracting so many
great coaches high school football coaches, but as soon as
we bring them in, we're losing them. I don't understand
what's going on. I don't know if it's coaches coming
in having certain expectations and maybe not being able to
meet those expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I just don't know. But it is a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
You've got so many great coaches that want to come here,
that do come here, but once coaches get here again,
we've got as many going out the door as we
do coming in. It's called churn, and I don't know
why we've got so many coaches that we lose over
one hundred coaching physician changes every year this year, no exception.

(01:31:18):
So that's uh feels final word for the day. Which
one of you two he wants to go next?

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
You have anys on that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna figure back that real quick with was on.
I'll let you close out. I think it's the problem is.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
We lose a consistency and continuity at our level of
football in high school. To Phill's point, I think people
try to come here because the communities are better and
they got better pay and things happen and you don't
know how to simulate to Georgia football, and then you
wind up losing them.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
And then what happens is teams can't.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Recover right and and kids move on to another school
because their coach left or the coach that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Came in left.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
So I do think that's the album. I do think
that it's a very interesting conversation. But I do think
we don't get some continuity and consistency. You'll see a
lot more things go the wrong way than the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Oh you get the final word.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Yeah, So that's a that made me think like you know,
we were talking about earlier how Georgia has become the
hub for coaching right, but now coach List saying if that,
you know, if we don't get some continuity or consistency
going on, will that turn out to be the opposite,
you know, will we not have so many people wanted
to come to Georgia to coach anymore? But I can't wait.
I believe we would put this back up next week,

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so you guys let us know what you think. Maybe
we'll make a post about it throughout the week. But
as you want to say, thank you guys for your comments.
Thank you guys for joining us at six pm. This
would be our new time. We appreciated all the comments,
especially from Obadiah. We see you in the comments.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
My man, he did all he could, he said, extended,
I appreciate you. O.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Yeah, it's true. And so until next time, you guys
will catch you ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
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(01:33:20):
you guys for making the show fantastic. Sly, Mazzani, you'all
have a great week you too, See you guys later Bye,