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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello, and a welcome back to F one Isn't Real Today, Santan,
David and I will be unpacking the last two grown
free of action, and what a two grown free they
have been, the Australian and the Chinese GPS to start
(00:36):
to kick off twenty twenty five before we head over
to Japan in two week time. But having digested, having savored,
having let the flavors tickle the rots in the first
two weeks of action, we now need to let to
make my mix my metaphorce. Someone here today allow us
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to settle, to find the children in the rubble, so
to speak. What can we what can we take from
these first two weekends? Well, David and I will try
our very best to find that out on this episode
of F one Isn't Real. David, how do you feel
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one's back?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Everyone is back, and like as we expected from that,
it's been crazier than ever. In my opinion, it's been
a crazy two weeks of F one driving.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
This is perhaps as jubilant as I've been Charlotte Claire
his charge at the start of the twenty twenty two
season before it all went sideways. We all remember the
French cran Frix with that iconic squeal of hey, that
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set Ferrari fans on edge for years to come and
that they will be right now regardless, have a race
to under their hands. Any who, David, kick us off,
What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, as he was saying about Charles and the scooter areas,
the first two races hasn't been the greatest for Ferrari
in my opinion. Despite Lewis did did win the sprint
in the Chinese GP after what the deep the disqualification
of the last GP for the Claire was underweight post
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race and his Lowis Hamilton skid blocks were too thin.
It's just it's just like vintage Ferrari now, isn't it
classic Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I mean same with the team order kind of debarcle
that was later disproven, but yeah, yeah, classics.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And even in for the Australian GP, quite underwhelming performances
for them, finishing at the very bottom of the points,
eighth for Charles, tenth for was. It's like, it's really
not off to the grace as a start for the
Ferraris right now.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, they're away behind McLaren already.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, who are leading the.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Charge out front. They're behind Williams, who's someone who's a group.
I think we'll get onto later. Y is this gonna
be a it's going to set a precedent of what's
to come. Ferrari kind of are they out in the
doghouse right now?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, we always knew that this season is going to be.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's to be.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's unpredictable because it's obviously the first time Lewis is
going to be in the in the red seat and
possibly just like having charge with a different dynamic and
a different teammate to see how is that going to
work out?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And like.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And just quite frankly, just hasn't been going to graces recently.
It's just their pace has been so off. It's just
been so off. I don't know why, because like in
practice they'd be seeing to doing like they're not that bad,
always being the top three, not nothing too shabby, and
then in qualifying pace and then and then in race pace.
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It just hasn't been up there with the mcclans, with
even the Mistadi s at of looking really decent this year.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't I can't like diagnose. I need someone more
professional than me to help me understand the Chinese grown
pre weepin because you see, like the a complete inversion
of Saturday, like Lewis Hamilton out front, hiking command of
the of the race and bringing home victory one day
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and then the next faulty you know, poor tire strategy
and losing grip, bad judgment in terms of how to
keep him so you know, how to keep the black
stuff coming, and then getting disqualified and then gets disqualified.
I don't, I don't, I don't understand it, David. I mean,
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do you have any idea of all that pace? I mean,
I guess you know, in relative terms, all that pace
from from Saturday went and went went away.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Too, you know, yeah, exactly like after after that sprint race,
we thought that, oh this could be the time, like
that maybe that first race was just like just to
just to sweep off the Darce, just to like just
to put the oil in the in the flipping gears
just but less.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And then we get this like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Really peculiar and just like mind boggling race day.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's just I mean, to be fair, they qualified seventh
and eighties, yeah, okay, they were back in the path.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, It's just like after after gaining like such
a such a good result on the on on Saturday morning,
and then just and then just like throwing that all
that momentum away for the for the actual race. It's
just it's just weird. It's just I don't even know
how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No more, I don't know. I think Ferrari is just
gonna be one of those teams that dips in now,
like they remind me of perhaps Mercedes last year, where
it's kind of I think they're going to be dissed out.
I mean, like this is already looking like a very
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poor kind of outcome compared to what I predicted would
happen for Like, obviously I'm completely deluded as always, but
I was saying, Charlotte Clair number one.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I was saying that, now, now what he's what four points?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I think he probably I think Stroll has more points
than him.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm pretty sure, yes has like ten twelve points And
Charlotte La Claire all right, Charlie boy, my good, I
mean my close personal friend Charlie. Yeah, like Charles has
eight points right now, Launce John both on ten Yeah,
that's nuts, like in a half as well, like's they
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literally getting dogged on by their own Like, but I'll
probably be feeling the same for Mercedes right now because
are going pretty yeah, very crazy. Ferrari, I don't know.
I think Lewis Hamilton he's settled, well, he's settled better
than I thought he's he's coming to that. Ferrari doesn't
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seem to be too out of like, he doesn't seem
too out of sync. The only thing I would note
is that he does not have a good relationship with
his race engineer whatsoever. Every five seconds there was another
radio clip where.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You like, I guess that's just just going to take
time for to settle in. And I guessed, like, I
don't think this season should be representative of what's to come,
but like because just like everything seting is like transitioning
into a different era or different type of like game
plan in a.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Source just like we sad. Yeah, so like we said
a couple of weeks ago, I mean, this is just
the season basically, Like, yeah, you just throw out everything
you can because as soon as twenty twenty six comes around,
it's going to be completely different. We're gonna have a
completely different team on the grid. Like we're gonna have
two completely different things. Have Audi and Cadillac both on
the grid and completely different regulations as well, so.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Different cars, different cars as well, Like it's gonna I
think this one is just like, don't think about this
season too much for what's to come.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean, listen, these teams are right now, they're squares.
They need to get out, they need to get out
of the the you know, the interesting gears start experimenting,
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need
to throw out all the stops. But Ferrari, I don't know.
I honestly, genuinely, I feel more used by this first
two weekend than I fee less sure of any predictions
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that I've made beforehand. But let's say this is just
the elephant in the room. I've got every single thing
wrong so far this season. It's not looking good, all right,
and clown Liam Liam Lawson and Color Science have one
point combined so far this year. One point. I said
(09:13):
Science was going to be the driver of the year
and Liam Lawson is gonna be the best they ever combined.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, Science sights in the first race was just unlucky
in my opinion, but second race fair enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I mean, listen, he wasn't even awful, but just compared
to Alan, we'll get yeah, Liam Lawson man, like you
can't judge a man by two weeks, but is he
herd bull caliber.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's kind of looking like Parish last year. I can't
lie words.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
My knees when again he cannot get out Q one
Like you're in like the fastest, like the fastest four
like okay, argue with the fastest even second fastest cars looking.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
At Ferrari right now, like on the grid, and then
you're you're you're struggling to get out Q three I
Q one. Sorry, that's that's kind of concerning in it,
even if it's I know it's been the first two races.
It's a new seat. He's a rookie technically, and he's
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a big role he has. He has to be like
Maxi Saffin's second in commands. Not the easiest thing to do.
But still it's kind of underwhelming in terms of the fact.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That I'm hello disappointing. Bro. I was thinking great things
about Liam Wilson, like his performance is like as racing
balls and and now va Tari. He was a man
who genuinely seemed to have it all figured out in
f one. But as we see, this is something I've
talked about in the past. It's the Devree fallacy effect,
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the three effect. You have. You have a guy who's been,
you know, doing the circuit for years and years. He
seems like a really steady pair of fans. You give
him a shot, he takes it, he aces it. And
then as soon as you put the guy in a car,
he looks like a toddler. You look like one of
those guys who's like riding.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Do you remember those like plastic Yeah, the plastic cars
are the squeaky arm the plastic cars.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
He looks like it's ridiculous, right, And I don't know
what it is. I don't know if it's a psychological thing.
I don't know if perhaps some of the cars that
will usually usually these drivers start on cars that are
kind of slower, so like Oliberman in the hass Nick Devree,
and maybe the slower cars that you start with allow
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you to have feel like you have more control over
them because they're generally easier to drive because they're their
ceiling is so much lower. You know, I'm not sure.
I think I think it might be pressure. I think
it's definitely, because you know, you know, even someone like
the degree, you know, he has the potential to be
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an excellent racer because you because everybody saw it, same
with it. But then as soon as you get put
in the big spotlight and now you have a point
to prove, suddenly that's when things get serious, right m hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, definitely, But it's always like he's not going to
lose his place, and I feel like he's definitely has the.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Red Bull back in for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So for like he should just he shouldn't have anything
to worry about, like in terms of in the long
run or just like she's a focus against just against
some point just getting to Q two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It's the fun, you know, it's the fund exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then and I'm going to want to talk about
my next thing if you don't mind, it's the it's.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The racing bulls.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The racing bulls after after being one of the most
beautiful liveries I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Fun.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, that Livery is absolutely amazing, best best Livery in
the grid, right.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, it reminds me of what do you remember
in twenty twenty one when Red Bull did that one
off Japanese Grand Prix Livery which was white.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm pretty I know, I think I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Real, you know what I mean? They did it. They
did a Japanese yeah yeah, yeah ye. But the yeah
idea is with Honduras they're named manufacting. Yeah that is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, but and then it added like the yellow gradient
at the at the top at.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
The front on the on the on the front, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Anyways, you know they've been having beautiful results as well. Okay, qualify,
They just need to step up their race pace in
my opinion, like in qualifying like an Australian Grand Pie
Yuki with a P five had with a eleven, and
then the China rampy had with the P seven and
then the UK with the P nine.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And considering how nuts these races have been, right yeah,
if you're qualifying high like that, that's when you know
that you know you're actually you've actually got a good
car in your hands, because right now, you know what,
what do we see in this race? Right? We saw
hassc on P five like that is a completely ridiculous
result taken out of complex, you know. Yeah, and we
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saw the same at the Lost Ground three in Australia
when there were a significant number of retirees, right yeah,
And so when you've got qualifying lockdown at an early
point in the season, I think that shows a lot
of potential about the car.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It's because if we're qualifying, it's already given you that next.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Step in order to build them for the race.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And like if they can just transfer their pace and
like the promise and potential they show in the qualifying
constantly quite like out qualifying like major teams and getting
into Q three, it really does like put pressure on
like these like middle of the pack teams to perform well.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Something I consider though, when they thinking about teams who
qualify well, I think about I think back to hass
in twenty twenty two. I think a few people will
remember this, but has one of the finest qualifying teams
of that season. I think, you know, they were regularly
qualifying ahead of the likes of Mercedes, ahead of the
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head of the mcclarens at certain points, but they only
ended up in eighth place in the constructors Championship because
they kept watching it in the race. And I'm not
saying that that's what the racing balls are doing, but
I am at the same time saying that you can't
necessarily rely on that you have to cover in some instances,
and so far, I would argue that that they are
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that they are doing so better than lots of teams
that are in the vicinity of them. I think they're
currently I mean, they've got three points and that's less
than Sober. But to be fair, NiCoT Algenberg benefited from
a very fluky in Australia. But yeah, I don't know.
I see good things of the racing balls, but they've
got to confirm I we know, you just know this
(16:03):
temperamental as well. Do you think he's kind of going
into himself a bit more this year?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like after the Liam
Lawson signing for the for what's good for the Red Bulls,
it feels like he kind of has a point to
prove this season, to show that he deserved that seat
or that he should have been the one that's in
consideration for it. So I guess that he he kind
of has that like chip on his shoulder, and I
(16:27):
guess you could say so. I guess I can see
from it his qualifying results. He just needs to show
that in the actual racis what.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Do you think he can do to get what he wants?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think I don't even I think he just needs
to focus on just not just trying to keep composed.
That's the main thing. You know, how he you know
how he's on the radio when he doesn't he doesn't
get the things he like. When the plant aid doesn't work,
he can't get very loudly.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
On the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So I guess if he could just fix that on
that composure, making sure he always keeps this tires in check,
not doing any senior mistakes that could lead into any DNF,
he could definitely see like a very promising season this year.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, and just minimizing rookie mistakes, Like I think back
to qualifying in Amelia Romania twenty twenty one, his first
season absolutely been at the final corner in quality and
that set precedent for the race, which is absolutely that
was one of the great genuinely if you haven't seen it,
Amir Romania twenty twenty one one of the best races
in recent times in Formula one in my opinion. But yeah,
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so rookie mistakes like that he needs to alleviate. But
I think he has. He has proven in the first
two weeks that he's somebody who can you can be consistent,
and yeah, that's kind of all you need from a
midfield team because if something happens upfront, then the opportunity
has open up for you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, exactly. And you saw that with with okon fifth place,
with Chinese Charms, crazy work.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Ocon is not somebody that I I've been underrating Ocann
for some time in the same kind of sin as well. Okay,
we may as well get into it. And the Williams cars.
I've been speaking down upon Alex's album on the podcast
the podcast, and well, David, would you like to gloat
to me? Would you like to tell me?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, I told you that album would cook. I told you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But like, there was nothing indicating that Colors Science was
coming up of a great year with Ferrari. Everyone really
was saying, oh man, everyone was saying, I'll go this
was and I took the was, I took the blue
pill or something like that. You know, you took the bait.
I took the bait. It was a red herring though,
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But I don't know, explain to me where is this
all coming from? Then? Why is why is why is
Carlos Science suddenly dog?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is the I feel like he just I guess
it's something similar to Lewis Hamilton right now. It's just
adjusting to the new car, with the new team and
new situations, and like there's always going to be that
the stuff we don't received as viewers, Like there's those
things that they're going to seem very off sense. He's
in a different environment. I'm guessing that's having a major
impact on Science since he's been so used to Like
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Ferrari last year was second in constructions and where was
Williams Rush Like in the Williams finished last.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Year, I believe Williams was.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Ninth nine or eight.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So like literally going to the opposite end of the spectrum.
It's not easy task. You're not gonna you're not gonna
You're not gonna just fit into that glove easily. So
I guess that's what you were seeing from Science right now.
But then from albums for Sergeants and what's currently on
sixteen points six in the Driver's Drivers Standing right now.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What I really don't want and what I hope doesn't
happen is that Carlos Science doesn't morph into kind of
vouchery botas archetype where it kind of seemed near the
end of it like he didn't really care anymore because
Vouchi in the in the cell as it was, what
was it before it was? It was al for a
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mayor a mayor. He joined that team and then suddenly
just seemed to stop making waves in the same way
as he used to. And Carlo Science is somebody that
I think is still ambitious and does still basticularly want
a championship, and I really worry about the longevity of
his career if he's stuck a team like Williams. I
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do think he said on the team radio at the
end of the Grand Prix that I'm I'm faster than this,
and I believe him because you know, I'm a Carlo
Science fan at the end of the day, and I
don't think that. I don't think he's going to do
it with Williams, but he needs to prove at least
that he's good enough for that, for that car and
good enough the best his teammate, because on a different level, I.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Think it's just from I guess he's just just grabbing
his opportunities and we're seeing what the struggles after you
said before that Ferrari's having with with a with a
plentiful DNF in the in the first in the first
rump album has just been that guy just to sneak
up the pack and just get really good points on
the board. And I guess that's what you just really
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have to do, just grab the opportunity when you can.
And that's how those that's how the majority of them.
Then we quote unquote saying mid pack teams has generate
the majority of their points.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. I mean even though as that one did benefit
from the double disqualification of the Ferraris, he was still
in the points for the entire Grand Prix in Channel,
so he didn't. I mean, he got lucky in terms
of the volume of points, but in terms of being
in the position to benefit, he was always there. So
album he's just been he's been a cog this year,
you know. Yeah, I feel like he hasn't been his
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high profile as he as he as he saw sometimes is.
But he's really in a similar way to someone like
a Kimie Antonelli so far has just got the job done.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Really, yeah, exactly, like he's the light has always been on,
like Carlos science on this, on this, in the new suit,
in the new car, and like and album has just
been doing this job and just just concentrating what he
needs to do to help the team. And that's what
he's been doing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But what about Antonelli? Then? I think Anton and Bairman
have probably looked like the most exciting, exciting and somehow
for being the two youngest, the most ready and prepared
so far this season I mean, make it, genuinely, this
season so far has been benown this make it makes sense? David, Why.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I call it?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I put Bairman as my Rookie of the Year last year,
and I feel like the most recent race showed just
showed his like, yeah, his aggression, like his aggression in
the times of like always taking on the outside and
climb back.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
He loves that movie. Appcially don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Three times on that race. Yeah, he just shows his
like swaggering just confident in himself. I feel like he's
just he's confident in his own abilities. And it's really
like refreshing to see just someone who just has this
type of persona who's like just came in after having
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a very impressive like a few stints after last season,
and even though in the first race he did finish
at the back of the grid, the second race really
showed how what's the calm for Bairman in the hash
car as well.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know what, kim me Antonelli. On the on the
other hand, he kind of reminds me of the kid,
you know, your little brother who comes to bowling with
you and your your older friends and then completely like
dominates you because he's I mean, he does seem like
a guy who really is just along for the ride
at certain points, but he makes it work. Man. You
can't deny two top six finishes in the first two races.
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I mean, that's pretty unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's fifth in the championship right now twenty two points.
But he he is just he doesn't seem his age,
like you know what I mean, It's just it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Was like he's just driving a maturity, but we like
not in the same way as Actually it's he's always
been serious. You can tell he knows what he's doing,
but he's absolutely serious. Gim me Antonelli. I mean, he
genuinely seems like like you know, somebody who should probably
be should be driving for kind of sixteen sixteen but yeah,
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I mean he's in the top six.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's crazy. He's just he's just I don't even know how.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's just so mature, driving beyond these years and just
again just getting the job done.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I think it was the style like like Benman as
you were talking about earlier, it's like, if you have
the talent to pull it off, just yeah, just go
for it. Like if you don't, if you don't and
you're always crashing into people, like yeah, he's a Maza spin,
then then maybe we have some problems.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, but he's he's pulling it off.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He the amount of overtakes we saw on on on
the most recent GP, it was just so impressive to
see it and then just catalyzing again points finishing on
the eighth.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He deserved it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I like Bridge, like, do you think this was
an encouraged Formula One teams to start hiring drivers like
at a young young hiring rookie drivers out of f
to at a younger age, Because if you look at
somebody like Laws and devere Tail, poor Cheer, who was
previously the kind of darling of Formula One teams, these
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guys have been in f too for nearly half a
decade before they joined the sport for sport for right.
Do you think that the kind of the confidence with
which these drivers, these extremely young and pretty much who
are pretty much rookies to Formula two as well and
just coming into Formula one and tearing up, do you
think it will change the structure of the talent pool
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in Formula one.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I feel like it would just be. I think
with the younger they are, the more hungrier they are
to prove themselves, to get their name out like the
raw talent they would have since they're not they haven't
been in the program for like half a decade. They're
just they're just sent into F one the setting into
F two team, if you know what I mean. Like,
so they I feel like they just have like that
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extra oomph to them, Like it's just it's it's kind
of like, you know, like a football academy player, you
just throw them into the first team.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You just see how they just how they like that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
How I remember my Manchester United supporter like last season
watching Kobe Mayney and gard naturally absolutely just just like
shining under the lights for Manchester United despite them being
what eighteen nineteen years old. So I feel like that's
the similar and they just even they have barely been
playing for the Manchester Academy that for that long, and
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they've just been put into the fast team because like
they see their talent and I think that could translate
into F one as well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Also on the on the subject of rookies just really
making an impact, I mean, like, whoever this kind of
scouting team at Mercedes are must have been hired from
the New York Patriots when they drafted Tom Brady in
the sixth round of an NFL draft, because you know,
I had basically never heard of this guy before Mercedes
(27:12):
announced that they were hiring as their driver. And he's
just coming in, you know, twenty two points in two races. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know. I don't know where you
guys get there get their scouting information from, but it's
nowhere legal. That's all.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But on the topic of mestades, one person I have
to hand out must and that must mention this mister
George Russell himself two p three, two podium finishes in
the past two races.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The best start to a season ever.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, he's very impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And George also are looking like genuinely the most secure
duo right now, I mean the most secure drug pairing,
Like there's no frig between them and they're banging out,
grinding out, so the results.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
But okay, do you think that George Russell is able
to since here's the number one driver right now? Do
you think he'll say they asked the number one driver
or do you think there'll be like a passing off
the torch moment where the Mercedes have been had this
long time plan for Kimmy to be then their number
one driver or do you think George Russell is still
in their plan to be winning them back that driver's
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championship that constructs a championship.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think Kimmy Antonelli might be the kind of like
prized lamb at the moment in a similar way to
how George Russell was when he joined Mercedes. And but
the difference is that Lewis Hamilton is a man who
has always had a chip on his shoulder, regardless of
how many championships he's won. But George Russell, at least
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it seems to me, is a man who's less concerned
in sort of glory so to speak, and genuinely does
kind of race for the love of it. It does
seem to me to be and so I think I
think the plan for Mercedes is to nurture up Kimy
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Antonelli and then hope by the time the regulation changes
in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight come around,
he's kind of in the prime of his or he's
entering the prime of his career and he's able to
make the most of his talent that he's learned. But
in terms of your question, I think George Russell is
going to be the number one driver for the foreseeable future,
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but it remains to be seen. Perhaps Kimi Antonelli or
raw talent with muscle.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What do you think when you say the prime of
a career in twenty twenty eight, he'll just be twenty
one years old.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Mate, this guy is.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But think about it, he will have what four years
racing experience for or so years exactly England.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And that's this guy's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, he could be a real He could
be in Formula One for the next twenty years and
I think in that time I wouldn't be surprised if Antonelli,
if he keeps up. I mean, this is obviously making
him very very you know, far set. But there are
only so many drivers who can win a Formula Word
World championship. And I mean, if he's starting like this,
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who knows where we'll go? Yeah, listen, clip that all right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Ten years time? Can how mean? How many did think
he will have?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No? I can't make a decision. How can you possibly?
I don't know. Maybe listen, he could he could like
I don't know, get into like an infected blood scandal,
or I don't know, he could have a freak like
kayaking accident. I don't know anything like anything in the
next twenty years. I'm not willing to make predictions. I
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can't even make predictions between one week in the next,
like I make predictions in ten years time. I don't know.
We'll see. What do you think? What do you think
you won a championship when you're confident in that eve
into bat that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, just thinking looking at looking at the grid, how
is your staff are now like twenty six, twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I'm pretty sure?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, he strikes me as a man who's getting one.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And then yeah, and like other than the staff and
who and like I guess we can put Norris and
Norris and Piastre and possibly Charles if he if he
can able to get out this lamp.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, who who else?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Do you think in the in the next decade of
F one is one to the one to get the championship?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I think I would say I will back Norris, Piastre,
the Stappen, Leclair and maybe Russell to win the championship
in the next fifteen years. I think I think I would.
I would be surprised if one of those did not
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walk away from the sport with at least one championship. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Same, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Am I Am I missing anyone from that list? Am
I really? Am? I?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like I would put me on that. I know it's over,
it's over, it's overreacting. But like this guy.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Is eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's eight years old, and he's currently fifth and after
two races, like Yeahmilton, oh oh god, damn, I feel
like his windows like what the next three He's four,
he's forty right now, he has like the next three
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years to prove if in my opinion, that's like the
window he has right now, the next three years to
see if he can win a and and I'm guessing
this year is not looking the greatest of starts, so
I doubt he would win it this year.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So the next two years, do you think he'll be.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Able to to cool back into his former glory.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, I don't think so, I don't think. The more
you say it like that, he's an Asian driver. Yeah,
he doesn't have any kids and he doesn't have a wife.
But so I means yes, dogs, yes, the dog, Yes,
the dogs, Yes, here's Rosco. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry for I'm sorry for for any dog that I
was out there. I didn't I'm sorry. But like as
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Fernando Alonzo once said, he said at the two thousand
and five Japanese Grand Prix when he over when he
overtook Michael Schumacher, he said, it's times like these when
I remember that Michael has two kids. So, but Lewis doesn't,
so he doesn't have a lot to not get injured for,
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let's put it like that. So he's probably he's still
going to be pushing it at forty three. I think
I wouldn't be spent for the years in the same
way as Fernando A Gonzo. Yeah, but Ferrari does like
right now, does not look like a championship ready team.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Does not if they look so disorganized, right, I don't
think they even know what their plan?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
See is their Plan B?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they're talking about plans Plan Ce's look,
but Claren's on Plan C. They can't even get a
plan they can get plant to.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, and it's it's sad to be a Ferrari fan.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Oh my gosh, that's a cruel life because because it's already,
you're already getting memes of like maybe next year, maybe
next year, yea, hope, already this is this is the side.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, let's I want to segue into the one, the
number one in the sport right now.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yea, the papye is. They are literally a spaceship. I'm
no joke.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They are insanely quick there, so let's just let's just
run over. If you just run over there. As past
results in aushading, Grampy qualified fast, Oscar second, and then
in the actual race, Lando did finish fast, and.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Due to Oscar's Oscar like.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Mishaps, he did finish an impressive ninth place for what
for what it's worth, a very impressive ninth place considering
the time of.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
The reminiscent of George Russell at the Sekire Grand Prix
in twenty twenty, just patning up.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Essentially, Yeah, just like and then in the Chinese grumpy
qualifying first for Oscar for Lando easy and then getting
that one too, and then just finishing with that one too.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
For Although Norris face break issues, maybe this will be
a trope for the year to come, mechanical issues with
McLaren I don't know. It's it's something you can't predict,
and it might just be a one time time issue,
but there's something to kind of keep.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, I guess they have.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They had the two weeks to like look at the
car and before the mad race and just make sure
that that that breaking is no an issue for Lando.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But I wonder what Norris dreams about. I like to
think I liked him, think of him tucked up in
his bed with like Teddy Bear, just joking up in
a cold sweat, thinking about breaks. Good, Okay, And we'll
leave that door there and we'll come back and return
and talk more f one and touching, touch on more,
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touch on the bunch, nature of the field, touching the
dominance of the McLaren's and each in a second welcome
back to F one isn't real second leg. Let's unpacked
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the remaining talking points, the remaining insights that we've taken
seakually taken pain from the weekend of action in Formula
one in twenty twenty five. Let's be let's begin by
continuing the McLaren saga David analysis.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
They're just vapid, mate, that insane, that that miles in
front of everyone. It feels like if they, if Oscar
didn't push too hard on when it was during when
on the on the wets and in the Australian Grand Prix,
we would be looking at a double one two finish
for the past two races for the For the McLaren
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it's just they're just Mars above everyone right now. It's
just like no one can touch them really.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And the stuff, I mean the stuffing close in Australia.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
To be fair, he did get closed in Australia, but
still Lando still came up with the wins manages to
keep his composure and just ca Yeah, that just came
with the conditions in my opinion, and then so obviously
and then like with all the with all the safety
cars then implemented that obviously was bound to happen. But
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and in my opinion, it's just was to come. It's
going to be like I feel like it's gonna be
a dominant season for the parents.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
If according the season the right offh then which of
the two do you So we've got one win a
piece so far, which of the two drivers do you
back to take all the way? Oh, if we're calling
this a foregone conclusion of the mcclarenator.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I feel I think, even though I did say in
my preseason but I was favoring Oscar more this year
than Lando. I think after the two races, just because
Oscar's mistake came from his own doing of him trying
to push the carpet too hard when he quite significantly
really didn't have to push it that hard since and
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that ended him with spinning off and then ended up
the back of the grid. I feel like Lando, after
last year's shortcomings to Max Mstaffen, I think this this year,
I feel like it's really his year two, really his
year to lose. In my opinion, you know what, Lando
Norris has an in built home muchly large self destruct bund.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
He just seems to me to be one of those guys.
As soon as it's going his way, he finds a
way to make it. Not think back to last year
he qualified on pole. I believe he had the most
positi this that's Newsy, and yet he threw almost every
single one of them away and on the first corner
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of the first lap. And when he's been in winning
positions in the past, thinking back to Sacchi, thinking to
you know, it's Italy in twenty twenty one, where he
was asked to kind of hold position, I was sorry.
Twenty twenty two, he doesn't. He sometimes doesn't lacks the
composure to take it away. And I think for a
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driver that's been in the sport for you know what
six six is years now more than six years six.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Or seven seventy years.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, you would hope he's taken some of that out
of his game from the first two races. Would you
would you argue that he has kind of maybe gained
more composure over.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
The off season, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, in the sprint, we kind of saw what what
happened with like his and he was he didn't really
perform the greatest on the sprint, Like do you even
finish in point and I don't think he even finishing
the points for the but in terms of the actual racing,
he's just been consistently just like just fit, building on
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what he needed to build on, and like what he knew.
He knew that his start wasn't his, like his him
maintaining his own positions, it hasn't been the greatest as well.
He showed that in the first in Australian Jeep in
the very first race of the year, that he's able
to keep that whole position and make it his. And
then in the Chinese showing that he's able to overcome
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second place. Would you overtake second place and gain the
second podium? So I guess he's just like just building
on what he needed to work on, and that's so
that he can get that that world World championship. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I he's one of those people like so the way
I view used to view Master Staff and in the
twenty twenty one season, who would get to the mountaintop
and then you know, jump off and then slip off
the side. You know, I worry that if he begins
to kind of open up a large enough lead, he
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might let it get to his head somewhat. It's always
the psychology with Lando and for Oscar Piastri, I'm almost
one hundred percent confident that that's never going to be
that's not going to be an issue this season. But
Lando I don't have that that that trust yet of
his character and that's something that if he has built
over the off season, then I think could result in
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quite quite a dominant season for Norris because he has the.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Talent to go all the way without Definitely, how do
you think does the others you can? How do you
think this dynamic is gonna it's going to grow into
this season because in the first two races we haven't
really seen nothing too crazy in my opinion, I guess
just Oscar trying to trying to in the Australian Grand Page,
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just trying to be a bit too a best, a
bit too not selfish, but like trying to do a
bit too much.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, there hasn't been a clash of heads so far yet.
I wouldn't say. Zach Brown said at the Australian Rand
Prix that we will let them race and I think
that's probably for the best. Definitely, I think it preserves
the kind of beauty of of the racing. But my
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concern is that Oscar could start to become frustrated because
Lando Norris is for he's a man with a very
short fuse, and I think I think Oscar Piastre his
hues may be slowly shortening as he as he continues
to work with lands who I have to say, I
would not want to be my business partner.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Y're just going in on him?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Wow, I mean, I mean he is the type of
guy to, you know, I don't know, point out. Okay,
so let's say if you make nine hundred and ninety
nine thousand sales in a year, he's the type of
person to laugh at you for not making a minute,
and you know he's he's I don't think he's a
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very compassionate, compassionate Colleigue. Let's put it like that. I'll
leave it there. But yeah, no, I think the dynamic
can sour very very quickly, as we saw with Nico
Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton in between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen,
as them say their period of dominance, as we saw
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with Mark Weber and Sebastian Vettle between twenty ten and
twenty thirteen. And I mean, I don't think there's been
any particularly close competition, as close competition as close to
the helm of Formula one since then. But those two
lumps from the twenty ten show that even two races,
and even two races that you know, we could consider
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reasonably humble, also even two pairs of races we could
consider quite humble, can really let it get to them and.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Surprised if it if it goes that way, definitely, definitely, Well,
I guess you just have to see if mcclowan can
continue with this dominance for for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Let's make scit see it. And moving on to what
was probably near nearing our final point, is the condensed
nature of the field so far, the first time that
nine out of ten teams have a point after two
rounds since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Well, that's that's a start, which.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Is which is pretty I would say pretty.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That is that is but as a result of two
races which have been really really quite I guess, well,
convention breaking for for for the races to start the
season which usually start reasonably slow, reasonably Yeah, what do
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you what do you think? Do you think this is
a sign of things to come? Or is it just
you know, a chance, a chance to races.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I think a mix of both.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Obviously the first race no one would have expected to have,
like the amount of safety cars we have, the amount
of d ns we have, and then in this and
then for the for the for the most recent races
of Chinese Grand Prix, no one expected to have both
ferraris get disqualified from the race. So obviously it's there's
always that chance being played. But that's that's just sports
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in general. It's always going to. The beauty of sports
is you can't one hundred percent know what's going to happen.
And that's and we've we've clearly seen that on display
for the first two races of the season. But I
also just think it's just a field. It's just getting
much more overall, a better, better, more all round field,
like seeing the likes of the Williams and the Hats
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so far this season. Just managing to constantly score points,
just just like quite quite effortlessly in my opinion, Like
that comes with obviously, but that comes with the regards
of the struggles off the higher ups as well, like
Liam Lawson, haven't him registered regeted points here? The ferraris
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struggling like this's been struggling and as like Fernando A Lonso,
I don't think it has a point either.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So the two retirements so far one one one contact. Yeah,
if the season ended today, season ended today, who would
you be most impressed by?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I would say I would say that either the the
Williams or or the half.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
In my opinion, it has have been there hasn't been
in the in the mix. They've been near the near
the near the mid of the midfield. But exactly they're there, definitely. Yeah,
in a number of years, it's probably twenty seventeen, like
has they.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Took on two new drivers like they who haven't who
haven't worked together, and just managed to like turn for
the previous season on his head pretty much in the
first two races and then the Williams. As I said
before and as I've predicted it was, it was able
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to make that jump even though Science has not been
performing to the quality we both hoped he would. Album
has stepped to the step to the play and we
haven't seen winning, and Winds is allowing him to That's
what's happening. They're not they're not They're not restricting him
and trying and just like for just let him in,
just stay at the the back markers. He's allowing him
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to try and challenge for the top five at this point.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Speaking of hass I think this, well, this is the
first season in the history of the team that they've
started the year with one proven driver who's been in
the sport for nearly a decade now, well well almost
exactly a decade, estebank On having started in twenty sixteen
with the I believe the was it Minardi I can't
(48:20):
oh manner with the manor with the manner outfit. Yes,
So they have one established driver and one rookie. This
is the first time that they've started the season on
those terms in their team's history, which I think shows
a level of boldness to their to their strategy, but
also I think a sensible kind of move. They know
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that they're a team who's never going to probably not
going to be challenging for a podium this year. So
to have one strong and proven driver nurturing one young,
raw and talented driver, I think is a good It's
a good model for for.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Any of the very It's a very good dynamic to
have like the one person who's like, you know, he knows,
he knows what he's doing, he knows how the sport
has got his van.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
And then you have this one person who's like this bright.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Prospects, who's who's who has a who has a personality,
who has a way of like a very fun way
of driving. It's just like it's just like goes hand
and handing together. They like feed off of each other.
Really well, yeah, I'm impressed by has so far.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
And the last team I think we should talk about
team we haven't mentioned once this episode. Team with zero
points Alpine Reno Jack doing Pierre Gasley. Well, what are
we thinking? I mean, Alpen is a tea that if
we think back to twenty twenty, Daniel Ricardo finishes p
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five in the Drivers Championship during that COVID adult season,
secures two podiums along the way, one at the Noburg
Ring one at the Bahrain International Circuit. Al being really
since that point, since that peak, since that high under
Daniel Ricardo have not performed since and this is looking
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like another season as back Marcos unless they can turn
something around you anything different.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, obviously last season we remember the Brazil Grand Prix
of them being the the podium bearers of their Grand Prix,
and I guess that was that was a bit of
a freak at a freak incident.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
What's happened for?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they were leading the race
at one time as well. And this season it was
not been the worst, like per gradually did finish a
p P eleven in Australian Grand Prix and then obviously
got disqualified in the Chinese Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
And then where did Jack do? Finishing the most was
the d n F.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
In the first uncrea Australia.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
And thirteenth, thirteenth in China.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
China, so he would have but he would have been
sixteenth if considering the oh yeah, yeah, definitely disqualified cars.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
And where was where was Ghastly before?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
I believe he was ahead of doing. I think it
was ahead of doing because he was laws and doing Ghastly.
I believe finished last, yes was last having crushed well.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm having the weird the weird incident with like, yeah,
just I was flapping.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
That was really odd.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, I don't really have that much to say. I
guess it's just not every team can be as successful
as each other. And the starting rates starting on the
stage of the season. We've already seen the amount of
parody we have. I guess you just cannot everyone cand
oft have their share of the party, you know what
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I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
So I don't, God damn it. Yeah, And I've shown
nothing so far to show that they deserve deserve points
that PI, you're so happy, So no pie for you.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
So I guess I don't think they'll do kicks out well.
I think they will definitely have their chances to.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They won't laying egg No, I think I think they'll
have their chances. As you say, if we have grand
pries that are as rowdy as these first two, then
our ping could be in the mix. I don't see
them competing regularly. I think they're going to be the
twenty twenty Williams of this.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
With the jump of like many mid back I mean
mid tier teams as we talked about earlier on like,
I guess like there's always going to be those type
of teams that are just going to miss out and
just and just not get that jump when other teams do.
And I'm thinking that for this season it's going to
be the Alpines.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
I agree to round things off let's have a let's
have a look, let's look forward. Let's stare into our future. Yes,
let's stair into the future. Stair into our crystal balls
or our be leaves or whatever you like, whatever tickles
your fancy. That is okay, But what do you what
are you thinking in terms of.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
For Japanese Toko.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
I'm i partially just because the home crowd. I think
Sonoda is going to have a really good race. I
thought he's going to be able to display his qualifying
strengths into the into the main race, so hopefully and
hopefully I would just be an amazing watchers to see.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's about twelve or
thirteen years now since Kamui kobe Ashi took home the
Grand Prix. Sorry sorry, I took home his I believe
one and only podium at Suzuka in twenty twelve. I
believe that was in the sober when he was there
with Checko Peris. That was a good day and I
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h well, which I obviously don't remember, having been four
at the time. But Yuki Sonoda, I would like to
see him at least get some points there.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, I think he definitely can. As we say racing balls.
They just need to translate their qualifying and paint into
the into the into the real race and they can
she success this season?
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Is it is it Oscar or Norris for the Grand Prix?
Speaker 2 (54:51):
I personally, personally think it could be either of them.
If whoever whoever has the better breakfast, it could it
literally could be that that whoever's eating that topics on
their day. I feel like we're going to be It's
gonna be like a contant cycle, like just like Norris Oscar.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
For the moment and waiting for the moment when we
have a kind of twenty seventeen Singapore Grand Prix or
twenty sixteen Spanish Grand Prix style coming together of the
two the two teammates. Because it's going to it's almost
an inevitability.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I feel like if it would have to be them,
they would have to have that type of that type
of encounter with each other.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
A massive crash and he's crashed into his teammates, the
two ladies come together.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, yeah, we need yeah, classic, we need one of those.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
But do you think the Ferraris would be able to
challenge for a podium or even get out of the
eighth and tenth points scoring at Suzuka.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Let's think about the grown pre we've had so far.
So we've had Chinese Grand Prix, which is kind of
medium speed speed corners. Yeah, Australian Grand Prix street circuit.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Heavily affects, highly affected by the rain as well.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Affected by the rain. Not many big breaking points Australia,
and they didn't do great. Suzuka is one of the
fastest tracks on the on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
I mean, considering the pace of Norris and Piastre, I
think they will be well ahead.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
They'll be eating good, They'll be they'll be eating real nice.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
M h.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I don't know. Could George Russell make it back to
back to back, That would be something I think.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
I think he definitely could. I feel like he had
the momentum to build on.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is the day, this is the day's streak ends
I'm gonna give I'm gonna give the final podium spot
to maxi Stappin in. Yeah, I'll say that, and I
think uk the top.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Seven I would say, I like that prediction.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
I think I just hope he just finishes in the
points of my for me, but top seven I like
that and I think we're going to see I think
we're going to see another.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
Another Antonelli Drivah.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, I could see, I could see a little. I
could see a little like you know, like P six
or something like that. I don't know. I feel like
an is just he's built. He's built to stay, he's
built to last. And I think I wouldn't be surprised
if he's one of those drivers you look back at
the end of the season and you're shocked that they
haven't had the d n F. Yeah, but he'll be Yeah,
(57:45):
he'll be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
What about what about the Ferraris. You said you asked
me if they could challenge for the podium. I don't
think so this week.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
This week, I'm I'm very I'm very well prepared to
hear like like a seven and a p A like.
I just I hope they turn it around soon. But
looking at looking at the literal track record for this
year record, but for the past two races, it's it's
(58:16):
not looking good, bra It's not look.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
That's the conclusion that we have. This week. Ferrari once
again face based the Bittern, the Clown, their clown costume,
the ah Man, those days, those days when we were
all so innocent. Spinotto as he was once known, now
(58:42):
working at well, but never forgotten. Beautiful, beautiful days, beautiful
days of Formula one for heritage. But now it's the
new era. The new era is a Formula one is back, sir,
the more and ready to do our finest journalistic jobs
(59:04):
and try our level best to cover to cover the
Going free to the best extent that we can. Yes,
hope you enjoyed this week's episode of F one.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Isn't real.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
We had, We made some unfortunate metaphors that will be
perhaps edited. Now we'll leave it all in Watson. Yeah,
join us in a few weeks. Time to discuss the
Japanese Going pre David anything, any closing statements.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
In the final words, it's a pleasure to be back
on the pod.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Can't wait for this was the season to come, and
after the first two races, I'm just excited. I've had
been more excited for a season since.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
Absolutely, we'll leave it there. Thank you very much, David.
As always, thank you for listening, feeling
Hello, and a welcome back to F one Isn't Real Today, Santan,
David and I will be unpacking the last two grown
free of action, and what a two grown free they
have been, the Australian and the Chinese GPS to start
(00:36):
to kick off twenty twenty five before we head over
to Japan in two week time. But having digested, having savored,
having let the flavors tickle the rots in the first
two weeks of action, we now need to let to
make my mix my metaphorce. Someone here today allow us
(00:58):
to settle, to find the children in the rubble, so
to speak. What can we what can we take from
these first two weekends? Well, David and I will try
our very best to find that out on this episode
of F one Isn't Real. David, how do you feel
(01:21):
one's back?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Everyone is back, and like as we expected from that,
it's been crazier than ever. In my opinion, it's been
a crazy two weeks of F one driving.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
This is perhaps as jubilant as I've been Charlotte Claire
his charge at the start of the twenty twenty two
season before it all went sideways. We all remember the
French cran Frix with that iconic squeal of hey, that
(01:54):
set Ferrari fans on edge for years to come and
that they will be right now regardless, have a race
to under their hands. Any who, David, kick us off,
What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, as he was saying about Charles and the scooter areas,
the first two races hasn't been the greatest for Ferrari
in my opinion. Despite Lewis did did win the sprint
in the Chinese GP after what the deep the disqualification
of the last GP for the Claire was underweight post
(02:31):
race and his Lowis Hamilton skid blocks were too thin.
It's just it's just like vintage Ferrari now, isn't it
classic Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I mean same with the team order kind of debarcle
that was later disproven, but yeah, yeah, classics.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And even in for the Australian GP, quite underwhelming performances
for them, finishing at the very bottom of the points,
eighth for Charles, tenth for was. It's like, it's really
not off to the grace as a start for the
Ferraris right now.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, they're away behind McLaren already.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, who are leading the.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Charge out front. They're behind Williams, who's someone who's a group.
I think we'll get onto later. Y is this gonna
be a it's going to set a precedent of what's
to come. Ferrari kind of are they out in the
doghouse right now?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, we always knew that this season is going to be.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's to be.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's unpredictable because it's obviously the first time Lewis is
going to be in the in the red seat and
possibly just like having charge with a different dynamic and
a different teammate to see how is that going to
work out?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And like.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And just quite frankly, just hasn't been going to graces recently.
It's just their pace has been so off. It's just
been so off. I don't know why, because like in
practice they'd be seeing to doing like they're not that bad,
always being the top three, not nothing too shabby, and
then in qualifying pace and then and then in race pace.
(04:05):
It just hasn't been up there with the mcclans, with
even the Mistadi s at of looking really decent this year.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't I can't like diagnose. I need someone more
professional than me to help me understand the Chinese grown
pre weepin because you see, like the a complete inversion
of Saturday, like Lewis Hamilton out front, hiking command of
the of the race and bringing home victory one day
(04:36):
and then the next faulty you know, poor tire strategy
and losing grip, bad judgment in terms of how to
keep him so you know, how to keep the black
stuff coming, and then getting disqualified and then gets disqualified.
I don't, I don't, I don't understand it, David. I mean,
(04:58):
do you have any idea of all that pace? I mean,
I guess you know, in relative terms, all that pace
from from Saturday went and went went away.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Too, you know, yeah, exactly like after after that sprint race,
we thought that, oh this could be the time, like
that maybe that first race was just like just to
just to sweep off the Darce, just to like just
to put the oil in the in the flipping gears
just but less.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And then we get this like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Really peculiar and just like mind boggling race day.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's just I mean, to be fair, they qualified seventh
and eighties, yeah, okay, they were back in the path.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, It's just like after after gaining like such
a such a good result on the on on Saturday morning,
and then just and then just like throwing that all
that momentum away for the for the actual race. It's
just it's just weird. It's just I don't even know
how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
No more, I don't know. I think Ferrari is just
gonna be one of those teams that dips in now,
like they remind me of perhaps Mercedes last year, where
it's kind of I think they're going to be dissed out.
I mean, like this is already looking like a very
(06:17):
poor kind of outcome compared to what I predicted would
happen for Like, obviously I'm completely deluded as always, but
I was saying, Charlotte Clair number one.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I was saying that, now, now what he's what four points?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I think he probably I think Stroll has more points
than him.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm pretty sure, yes has like ten twelve points And
Charlotte La Claire all right, Charlie boy, my good, I
mean my close personal friend Charlie. Yeah, like Charles has
eight points right now, Launce John both on ten Yeah,
that's nuts, like in a half as well, like's they
(07:01):
literally getting dogged on by their own Like, but I'll
probably be feeling the same for Mercedes right now because
are going pretty yeah, very crazy. Ferrari, I don't know.
I think Lewis Hamilton he's settled, well, he's settled better
than I thought he's he's coming to that. Ferrari doesn't
(07:22):
seem to be too out of like, he doesn't seem
too out of sync. The only thing I would note
is that he does not have a good relationship with
his race engineer whatsoever. Every five seconds there was another
radio clip where.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You like, I guess that's just just going to take
time for to settle in. And I guessed, like, I
don't think this season should be representative of what's to come,
but like because just like everything seting is like transitioning
into a different era or different type of like game
plan in a.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Source just like we sad. Yeah, so like we said
a couple of weeks ago, I mean, this is just
the season basically, Like, yeah, you just throw out everything
you can because as soon as twenty twenty six comes around,
it's going to be completely different. We're gonna have a
completely different team on the grid. Like we're gonna have
two completely different things. Have Audi and Cadillac both on
the grid and completely different regulations as well, so.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Different cars, different cars as well, Like it's gonna I
think this one is just like, don't think about this
season too much for what's to come.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean, listen, these teams are right now, they're squares.
They need to get out, they need to get out
of the the you know, the interesting gears start experimenting,
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need
to throw out all the stops. But Ferrari, I don't know.
I honestly, genuinely, I feel more used by this first
two weekend than I fee less sure of any predictions
(08:53):
that I've made beforehand. But let's say this is just
the elephant in the room. I've got every single thing
wrong so far this season. It's not looking good, all right,
and clown Liam Liam Lawson and Color Science have one
point combined so far this year. One point. I said
(09:13):
Science was going to be the driver of the year
and Liam Lawson is gonna be the best they ever combined.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, Science sights in the first race was just unlucky
in my opinion, but second race fair enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I mean, listen, he wasn't even awful, but just compared
to Alan, we'll get yeah, Liam Lawson man, like you
can't judge a man by two weeks, but is he
herd bull caliber.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's kind of looking like Parish last year. I can't
lie words.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
My knees when again he cannot get out Q one
Like you're in like the fastest, like the fastest four
like okay, argue with the fastest even second fastest cars looking.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
At Ferrari right now, like on the grid, and then
you're you're you're struggling to get out Q three I
Q one. Sorry, that's that's kind of concerning in it,
even if it's I know it's been the first two races.
It's a new seat. He's a rookie technically, and he's
(10:23):
a big role he has. He has to be like
Maxi Saffin's second in commands. Not the easiest thing to do.
But still it's kind of underwhelming in terms of the fact.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That I'm hello disappointing. Bro. I was thinking great things
about Liam Wilson, like his performance is like as racing
balls and and now va Tari. He was a man
who genuinely seemed to have it all figured out in
f one. But as we see, this is something I've
talked about in the past. It's the Devree fallacy effect,
(10:57):
the three effect. You have. You have a guy who's been,
you know, doing the circuit for years and years. He
seems like a really steady pair of fans. You give
him a shot, he takes it, he aces it. And
then as soon as you put the guy in a car,
he looks like a toddler. You look like one of
those guys who's like riding.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Do you remember those like plastic Yeah, the plastic cars
are the squeaky arm the plastic cars.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
He looks like it's ridiculous, right, And I don't know
what it is. I don't know if it's a psychological thing.
I don't know if perhaps some of the cars that
will usually usually these drivers start on cars that are
kind of slower, so like Oliberman in the hass Nick Devree,
and maybe the slower cars that you start with allow
(11:44):
you to have feel like you have more control over
them because they're generally easier to drive because they're their
ceiling is so much lower. You know, I'm not sure.
I think I think it might be pressure. I think
it's definitely, because you know, you know, even someone like
the degree, you know, he has the potential to be
(12:07):
an excellent racer because you because everybody saw it, same
with it. But then as soon as you get put
in the big spotlight and now you have a point
to prove, suddenly that's when things get serious, right m hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, definitely, But it's always like he's not going to
lose his place, and I feel like he's definitely has the.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Red Bull back in for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So for like he should just he shouldn't have anything
to worry about, like in terms of in the long
run or just like she's a focus against just against
some point just getting to Q two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It's the fun, you know, it's the fund exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then and I'm going to want to talk about
my next thing if you don't mind, it's the it's.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The racing bulls.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The racing bulls after after being one of the most
beautiful liveries I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Fun.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, that Livery is absolutely amazing, best best Livery in
the grid, right.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, it reminds me of what do you remember
in twenty twenty one when Red Bull did that one
off Japanese Grand Prix Livery which was white.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'm pretty I know, I think I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Real, you know what I mean? They did it. They
did a Japanese yeah yeah, yeah ye. But the yeah
idea is with Honduras they're named manufacting. Yeah that is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, but and then it added like the yellow gradient
at the at the top at.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
The front on the on the on the front, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Anyways, you know they've been having beautiful results as well. Okay, qualify,
They just need to step up their race pace in
my opinion, like in qualifying like an Australian Grand Pie
Yuki with a P five had with a eleven, and
then the China rampy had with the P seven and
then the UK with the P nine.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And considering how nuts these races have been, right yeah,
if you're qualifying high like that, that's when you know
that you know you're actually you've actually got a good
car in your hands, because right now, you know what,
what do we see in this race? Right? We saw
hassc on P five like that is a completely ridiculous
result taken out of complex, you know. Yeah, and we
(14:16):
saw the same at the Lost Ground three in Australia
when there were a significant number of retirees, right yeah,
And so when you've got qualifying lockdown at an early
point in the season, I think that shows a lot
of potential about the car.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It's because if we're qualifying, it's already given you that next.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Step in order to build them for the race.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And like if they can just transfer their pace and
like the promise and potential they show in the qualifying
constantly quite like out qualifying like major teams and getting
into Q three, it really does like put pressure on
like these like middle of the pack teams to perform well.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Something I consider though, when they thinking about teams who
qualify well, I think about I think back to hass
in twenty twenty two. I think a few people will
remember this, but has one of the finest qualifying teams
of that season. I think, you know, they were regularly
qualifying ahead of the likes of Mercedes, ahead of the
(15:19):
head of the mcclarens at certain points, but they only
ended up in eighth place in the constructors Championship because
they kept watching it in the race. And I'm not
saying that that's what the racing balls are doing, but
I am at the same time saying that you can't
necessarily rely on that you have to cover in some instances,
and so far, I would argue that that they are
(15:41):
that they are doing so better than lots of teams
that are in the vicinity of them. I think they're
currently I mean, they've got three points and that's less
than Sober. But to be fair, NiCoT Algenberg benefited from
a very fluky in Australia. But yeah, I don't know.
I see good things of the racing balls, but they've
got to confirm I we know, you just know this
(16:03):
temperamental as well. Do you think he's kind of going
into himself a bit more this year?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like after the Liam
Lawson signing for the for what's good for the Red Bulls,
it feels like he kind of has a point to
prove this season, to show that he deserved that seat
or that he should have been the one that's in
consideration for it. So I guess that he he kind
of has that like chip on his shoulder, and I
(16:27):
guess you could say so. I guess I can see
from it his qualifying results. He just needs to show
that in the actual racis what.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Do you think he can do to get what he wants?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think I don't even I think he just needs
to focus on just not just trying to keep composed.
That's the main thing. You know, how he you know
how he's on the radio when he doesn't he doesn't
get the things he like. When the plant aid doesn't work,
he can't get very loudly.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
On the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So I guess if he could just fix that on
that composure, making sure he always keeps this tires in check,
not doing any senior mistakes that could lead into any DNF,
he could definitely see like a very promising season this year.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, and just minimizing rookie mistakes, Like I think back
to qualifying in Amelia Romania twenty twenty one, his first
season absolutely been at the final corner in quality and
that set precedent for the race, which is absolutely that
was one of the great genuinely if you haven't seen it,
Amir Romania twenty twenty one one of the best races
in recent times in Formula one in my opinion. But yeah,
(17:29):
so rookie mistakes like that he needs to alleviate. But
I think he has. He has proven in the first
two weeks that he's somebody who can you can be consistent,
and yeah, that's kind of all you need from a
midfield team because if something happens upfront, then the opportunity
has open up for you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, exactly. And you saw that with with okon fifth place,
with Chinese Charms, crazy work.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Ocon is not somebody that I I've been underrating Ocann
for some time in the same kind of sin as well. Okay,
we may as well get into it. And the Williams cars.
I've been speaking down upon Alex's album on the podcast
the podcast, and well, David, would you like to gloat
to me? Would you like to tell me?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, I told you that album would cook. I told you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But like, there was nothing indicating that Colors Science was
coming up of a great year with Ferrari. Everyone really
was saying, oh man, everyone was saying, I'll go this
was and I took the was, I took the blue
pill or something like that. You know, you took the bait.
I took the bait. It was a red herring though,
(18:41):
But I don't know, explain to me where is this
all coming from? Then? Why is why is why is
Carlos Science suddenly dog?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is the I feel like he just I guess
it's something similar to Lewis Hamilton right now. It's just
adjusting to the new car, with the new team and
new situations, and like there's always going to be that
the stuff we don't received as viewers, Like there's those
things that they're going to seem very off sense. He's
in a different environment. I'm guessing that's having a major
impact on Science since he's been so used to Like
(19:10):
Ferrari last year was second in constructions and where was
Williams Rush Like in the Williams finished last.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Year, I believe Williams was.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Ninth nine or eight.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So like literally going to the opposite end of the spectrum.
It's not easy task. You're not gonna you're not gonna
You're not gonna just fit into that glove easily. So
I guess that's what you were seeing from Science right now.
But then from albums for Sergeants and what's currently on
sixteen points six in the Driver's Drivers Standing right now.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What I really don't want and what I hope doesn't
happen is that Carlos Science doesn't morph into kind of
vouchery botas archetype where it kind of seemed near the
end of it like he didn't really care anymore because
Vouchi in the in the cell as it was, what
was it before it was? It was al for a
(20:01):
mayor a mayor. He joined that team and then suddenly
just seemed to stop making waves in the same way
as he used to. And Carlo Science is somebody that
I think is still ambitious and does still basticularly want
a championship, and I really worry about the longevity of
his career if he's stuck a team like Williams. I
(20:23):
do think he said on the team radio at the
end of the Grand Prix that I'm I'm faster than this,
and I believe him because you know, I'm a Carlo
Science fan at the end of the day, and I
don't think that. I don't think he's going to do
it with Williams, but he needs to prove at least
that he's good enough for that, for that car and
good enough the best his teammate, because on a different level, I.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Think it's just from I guess he's just just grabbing
his opportunities and we're seeing what the struggles after you
said before that Ferrari's having with with a with a
plentiful DNF in the in the first in the first
rump album has just been that guy just to sneak
up the pack and just get really good points on
the board. And I guess that's what you just really
(21:09):
have to do, just grab the opportunity when you can.
And that's how those that's how the majority of them.
Then we quote unquote saying mid pack teams has generate
the majority of their points.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. I mean even though as that one did benefit
from the double disqualification of the Ferraris, he was still
in the points for the entire Grand Prix in Channel,
so he didn't. I mean, he got lucky in terms
of the volume of points, but in terms of being
in the position to benefit, he was always there. So
album he's just been he's been a cog this year,
you know. Yeah, I feel like he hasn't been his
(21:43):
high profile as he as he as he saw sometimes is.
But he's really in a similar way to someone like
a Kimie Antonelli so far has just got the job done.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Really, yeah, exactly, like he's the light has always been on,
like Carlos science on this, on this, in the new suit,
in the new car, and like and album has just
been doing this job and just just concentrating what he
needs to do to help the team. And that's what
he's been doing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But what about Antonelli? Then? I think Anton and Bairman
have probably looked like the most exciting, exciting and somehow
for being the two youngest, the most ready and prepared
so far this season I mean, make it, genuinely, this
season so far has been benown this make it makes sense? David, Why.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I call it?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I put Bairman as my Rookie of the Year last year,
and I feel like the most recent race showed just
showed his like, yeah, his aggression, like his aggression in
the times of like always taking on the outside and
climb back.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
He loves that movie. Appcially don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Three times on that race. Yeah, he just shows his
like swaggering just confident in himself. I feel like he's
just he's confident in his own abilities. And it's really
like refreshing to see just someone who just has this
type of persona who's like just came in after having
(23:07):
a very impressive like a few stints after last season,
and even though in the first race he did finish
at the back of the grid, the second race really
showed how what's the calm for Bairman in the hash
car as well.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know what, kim me Antonelli. On the on the
other hand, he kind of reminds me of the kid,
you know, your little brother who comes to bowling with
you and your your older friends and then completely like
dominates you because he's I mean, he does seem like
a guy who really is just along for the ride
at certain points, but he makes it work. Man. You
can't deny two top six finishes in the first two races.
(23:39):
I mean, that's pretty unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's fifth in the championship right now twenty two points.
But he he is just he doesn't seem his age,
like you know what I mean, It's just it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Was like he's just driving a maturity, but we like
not in the same way as Actually it's he's always
been serious. You can tell he knows what he's doing,
but he's absolutely serious. Gim me Antonelli. I mean, he
genuinely seems like like you know, somebody who should probably
be should be driving for kind of sixteen sixteen but yeah,
(24:14):
I mean he's in the top six.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's crazy. He's just he's just I don't even know how.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's just so mature, driving beyond these years and just
again just getting the job done.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I think it was the style like like Benman as
you were talking about earlier, it's like, if you have
the talent to pull it off, just yeah, just go
for it. Like if you don't, if you don't and
you're always crashing into people, like yeah, he's a Maza spin,
then then maybe we have some problems.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, but he's he's pulling it off.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He the amount of overtakes we saw on on on
the most recent GP, it was just so impressive to
see it and then just catalyzing again points finishing on
the eighth.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He deserved it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I like Bridge, like, do you think this was
an encouraged Formula One teams to start hiring drivers like
at a young young hiring rookie drivers out of f
to at a younger age, Because if you look at
somebody like Laws and devere Tail, poor Cheer, who was
previously the kind of darling of Formula One teams, these
(25:19):
guys have been in f too for nearly half a
decade before they joined the sport for sport for right.
Do you think that the kind of the confidence with
which these drivers, these extremely young and pretty much who
are pretty much rookies to Formula two as well and
just coming into Formula one and tearing up, do you
think it will change the structure of the talent pool
(25:43):
in Formula one.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I feel like it would just be. I think
with the younger they are, the more hungrier they are
to prove themselves, to get their name out like the
raw talent they would have since they're not they haven't
been in the program for like half a decade. They're
just they're just sent into F one the setting into
F two team, if you know what I mean. Like,
so they I feel like they just have like that
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extra oomph to them, Like it's just it's it's kind
of like, you know, like a football academy player, you
just throw them into the first team.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You just see how they just how they like that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
How I remember my Manchester United supporter like last season
watching Kobe Mayney and gard naturally absolutely just just like
shining under the lights for Manchester United despite them being
what eighteen nineteen years old. So I feel like that's
the similar and they just even they have barely been
playing for the Manchester Academy that for that long, and
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they've just been put into the fast team because like
they see their talent and I think that could translate
into F one as well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Also on the on the subject of rookies just really
making an impact, I mean, like, whoever this kind of
scouting team at Mercedes are must have been hired from
the New York Patriots when they drafted Tom Brady in
the sixth round of an NFL draft, because you know,
I had basically never heard of this guy before Mercedes
(27:12):
announced that they were hiring as their driver. And he's
just coming in, you know, twenty two points in two races. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know. I don't know where you
guys get there get their scouting information from, but it's
nowhere legal. That's all.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But on the topic of mestades, one person I have
to hand out must and that must mention this mister
George Russell himself two p three, two podium finishes in
the past two races.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The best start to a season ever.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, he's very impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And George also are looking like genuinely the most secure
duo right now, I mean the most secure drug pairing,
Like there's no frig between them and they're banging out,
grinding out, so the results.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
But okay, do you think that George Russell is able
to since here's the number one driver right now? Do
you think he'll say they asked the number one driver
or do you think there'll be like a passing off
the torch moment where the Mercedes have been had this
long time plan for Kimmy to be then their number
one driver or do you think George Russell is still
in their plan to be winning them back that driver's
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championship that constructs a championship.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think Kimmy Antonelli might be the kind of like
prized lamb at the moment in a similar way to
how George Russell was when he joined Mercedes. And but
the difference is that Lewis Hamilton is a man who
has always had a chip on his shoulder, regardless of
how many championships he's won. But George Russell, at least
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it seems to me, is a man who's less concerned
in sort of glory so to speak, and genuinely does
kind of race for the love of it. It does
seem to me to be and so I think I
think the plan for Mercedes is to nurture up Kimy
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Antonelli and then hope by the time the regulation changes
in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight come around,
he's kind of in the prime of his or he's
entering the prime of his career and he's able to
make the most of his talent that he's learned. But
in terms of your question, I think George Russell is
going to be the number one driver for the foreseeable future,
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but it remains to be seen. Perhaps Kimi Antonelli or
raw talent with muscle.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What do you think when you say the prime of
a career in twenty twenty eight, he'll just be twenty
one years old.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Mate, this guy is.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But think about it, he will have what four years
racing experience for or so years exactly England.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And that's this guy's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, he could be a real He could
be in Formula One for the next twenty years and
I think in that time I wouldn't be surprised if Antonelli,
if he keeps up. I mean, this is obviously making
him very very you know, far set. But there are
only so many drivers who can win a Formula Word
World championship. And I mean, if he's starting like this,
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who knows where we'll go? Yeah, listen, clip that all right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Ten years time? Can how mean? How many did think
he will have?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No? I can't make a decision. How can you possibly?
I don't know. Maybe listen, he could he could like
I don't know, get into like an infected blood scandal,
or I don't know, he could have a freak like
kayaking accident. I don't know anything like anything in the
next twenty years. I'm not willing to make predictions. I
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can't even make predictions between one week in the next,
like I make predictions in ten years time. I don't know.
We'll see. What do you think? What do you think
you won a championship when you're confident in that eve
into bat that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, just thinking looking at looking at the grid, how
is your staff are now like twenty six, twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I'm pretty sure?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, he strikes me as a man who's getting one.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And then yeah, and like other than the staff and
who and like I guess we can put Norris and
Norris and Piastre and possibly Charles if he if he
can able to get out this lamp.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, who who else?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Do you think in the in the next decade of
F one is one to the one to get the championship?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I think I would say I will back Norris, Piastre,
the Stappen, Leclair and maybe Russell to win the championship
in the next fifteen years. I think I think I would.
I would be surprised if one of those did not
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walk away from the sport with at least one championship. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Same, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Am I Am I missing anyone from that list? Am
I really? Am? I?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like I would put me on that. I know it's over,
it's over, it's overreacting. But like this guy.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Is eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's eight years old, and he's currently fifth and after
two races, like Yeahmilton, oh oh god, damn, I feel
like his windows like what the next three He's four,
he's forty right now, he has like the next three
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years to prove if in my opinion, that's like the
window he has right now, the next three years to
see if he can win a and and I'm guessing
this year is not looking the greatest of starts, so
I doubt he would win it this year.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So the next two years, do you think he'll be.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Able to to cool back into his former glory.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, I don't think so, I don't think. The more
you say it like that, he's an Asian driver. Yeah,
he doesn't have any kids and he doesn't have a wife.
But so I means yes, dogs, yes, the dog, Yes,
the dogs, Yes, here's Rosco. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry for I'm sorry for for any dog that I
was out there. I didn't I'm sorry. But like as
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Fernando Alonzo once said, he said at the two thousand
and five Japanese Grand Prix when he over when he
overtook Michael Schumacher, he said, it's times like these when
I remember that Michael has two kids. So, but Lewis doesn't,
so he doesn't have a lot to not get injured for,
(33:30):
let's put it like that. So he's probably he's still
going to be pushing it at forty three. I think
I wouldn't be spent for the years in the same
way as Fernando A Gonzo. Yeah, but Ferrari does like
right now, does not look like a championship ready team.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Does not if they look so disorganized, right, I don't
think they even know what their plan?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
See is their Plan B?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they're talking about plans Plan Ce's look,
but Claren's on Plan C. They can't even get a
plan they can get plant to.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, and it's it's sad to be a Ferrari fan.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Oh my gosh, that's a cruel life because because it's already,
you're already getting memes of like maybe next year, maybe
next year, yea, hope, already this is this is the side.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, let's I want to segue into the one, the
number one in the sport right now.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yea, the papye is. They are literally a spaceship. I'm
no joke.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They are insanely quick there, so let's just let's just
run over. If you just run over there. As past
results in aushading, Grampy qualified fast, Oscar second, and then
in the actual race, Lando did finish fast, and.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Due to Oscar's Oscar like.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Mishaps, he did finish an impressive ninth place for what
for what it's worth, a very impressive ninth place considering
the time of.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
The reminiscent of George Russell at the Sekire Grand Prix
in twenty twenty, just patning up.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Essentially, Yeah, just like and then in the Chinese grumpy
qualifying first for Oscar for Lando easy and then getting
that one too, and then just finishing with that one too.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
For Although Norris face break issues, maybe this will be
a trope for the year to come, mechanical issues with
McLaren I don't know. It's it's something you can't predict,
and it might just be a one time time issue,
but there's something to kind of keep.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, I guess they have.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They had the two weeks to like look at the
car and before the mad race and just make sure
that that that breaking is no an issue for Lando.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But I wonder what Norris dreams about. I like to
think I liked him, think of him tucked up in
his bed with like Teddy Bear, just joking up in
a cold sweat, thinking about breaks. Good, Okay, And we'll
leave that door there and we'll come back and return
and talk more f one and touching, touch on more,
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touch on the bunch, nature of the field, touching the
dominance of the McLaren's and each in a second welcome
back to F one isn't real second leg. Let's unpacked
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the remaining talking points, the remaining insights that we've taken
seakually taken pain from the weekend of action in Formula
one in twenty twenty five. Let's be let's begin by
continuing the McLaren saga David analysis.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
They're just vapid, mate, that insane, that that miles in
front of everyone. It feels like if they, if Oscar
didn't push too hard on when it was during when
on the on the wets and in the Australian Grand Prix,
we would be looking at a double one two finish
for the past two races for the For the McLaren
(37:11):
it's just they're just Mars above everyone right now. It's
just like no one can touch them really.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And the stuff, I mean the stuffing close in Australia.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
To be fair, he did get closed in Australia, but
still Lando still came up with the wins manages to
keep his composure and just ca Yeah, that just came
with the conditions in my opinion, and then so obviously
and then like with all the with all the safety
cars then implemented that obviously was bound to happen. But
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and in my opinion, it's just was to come. It's
going to be like I feel like it's gonna be
a dominant season for the parents.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
If according the season the right offh then which of
the two do you So we've got one win a
piece so far, which of the two drivers do you
back to take all the way? Oh, if we're calling
this a foregone conclusion of the mcclarenator.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I feel I think, even though I did say in
my preseason but I was favoring Oscar more this year
than Lando. I think after the two races, just because
Oscar's mistake came from his own doing of him trying
to push the carpet too hard when he quite significantly
really didn't have to push it that hard since and
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that ended him with spinning off and then ended up
the back of the grid. I feel like Lando, after
last year's shortcomings to Max Mstaffen, I think this this year,
I feel like it's really his year two, really his
year to lose. In my opinion, you know what, Lando
Norris has an in built home muchly large self destruct bund.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
He just seems to me to be one of those guys.
As soon as it's going his way, he finds a
way to make it. Not think back to last year
he qualified on pole. I believe he had the most
positi this that's Newsy, and yet he threw almost every
single one of them away and on the first corner
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of the first lap. And when he's been in winning
positions in the past, thinking back to Sacchi, thinking to
you know, it's Italy in twenty twenty one, where he
was asked to kind of hold position, I was sorry.
Twenty twenty two, he doesn't. He sometimes doesn't lacks the
composure to take it away. And I think for a
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driver that's been in the sport for you know what
six six is years now more than six years six.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Or seven seventy years.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, you would hope he's taken some of that out
of his game from the first two races. Would you
would you argue that he has kind of maybe gained
more composure over.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
The off season, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, in the sprint, we kind of saw what what
happened with like his and he was he didn't really
perform the greatest on the sprint, Like do you even
finish in point and I don't think he even finishing
the points for the but in terms of the actual racing,
he's just been consistently just like just fit, building on
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what he needed to build on, and like what he knew.
He knew that his start wasn't his, like his him
maintaining his own positions, it hasn't been the greatest as well.
He showed that in the first in Australian Jeep in
the very first race of the year, that he's able
to keep that whole position and make it his. And
then in the Chinese showing that he's able to overcome
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second place. Would you overtake second place and gain the
second podium? So I guess he's just like just building
on what he needed to work on, and that's so
that he can get that that world World championship. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I he's one of those people like so the way
I view used to view Master Staff and in the
twenty twenty one season, who would get to the mountaintop
and then you know, jump off and then slip off
the side. You know, I worry that if he begins
to kind of open up a large enough lead, he
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might let it get to his head somewhat. It's always
the psychology with Lando and for Oscar Piastri, I'm almost
one hundred percent confident that that's never going to be
that's not going to be an issue this season. But
Lando I don't have that that that trust yet of
his character and that's something that if he has built
over the off season, then I think could result in
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quite quite a dominant season for Norris because he has the.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Talent to go all the way without Definitely, how do
you think does the others you can? How do you
think this dynamic is gonna it's going to grow into
this season because in the first two races we haven't
really seen nothing too crazy in my opinion, I guess
just Oscar trying to trying to in the Australian Grand Page,
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just trying to be a bit too a best, a
bit too not selfish, but like trying to do a
bit too much.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, there hasn't been a clash of heads so far yet.
I wouldn't say. Zach Brown said at the Australian Rand
Prix that we will let them race and I think
that's probably for the best. Definitely, I think it preserves
the kind of beauty of of the racing. But my
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concern is that Oscar could start to become frustrated because
Lando Norris is for he's a man with a very
short fuse, and I think I think Oscar Piastre his
hues may be slowly shortening as he as he continues
to work with lands who I have to say, I
would not want to be my business partner.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Y're just going in on him?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Wow, I mean, I mean he is the type of
guy to, you know, I don't know, point out. Okay,
so let's say if you make nine hundred and ninety
nine thousand sales in a year, he's the type of
person to laugh at you for not making a minute,
and you know he's he's I don't think he's a
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very compassionate, compassionate Colleigue. Let's put it like that. I'll
leave it there. But yeah, no, I think the dynamic
can sour very very quickly, as we saw with Nico
Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton in between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen,
as them say their period of dominance, as we saw
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with Mark Weber and Sebastian Vettle between twenty ten and
twenty thirteen. And I mean, I don't think there's been
any particularly close competition, as close competition as close to
the helm of Formula one since then. But those two
lumps from the twenty ten show that even two races,
and even two races that you know, we could consider
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reasonably humble, also even two pairs of races we could
consider quite humble, can really let it get to them and.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Surprised if it if it goes that way, definitely, definitely, Well,
I guess you just have to see if mcclowan can
continue with this dominance for for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Let's make scit see it. And moving on to what
was probably near nearing our final point, is the condensed
nature of the field so far, the first time that
nine out of ten teams have a point after two
rounds since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Well, that's that's a start, which.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Is which is pretty I would say pretty.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That is that is but as a result of two
races which have been really really quite I guess, well,
convention breaking for for for the races to start the
season which usually start reasonably slow, reasonably Yeah, what do
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you what do you think? Do you think this is
a sign of things to come? Or is it just
you know, a chance, a chance to races.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I think a mix of both.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Obviously the first race no one would have expected to have,
like the amount of safety cars we have, the amount
of d ns we have, and then in this and
then for the for the for the most recent races
of Chinese Grand Prix, no one expected to have both
ferraris get disqualified from the race. So obviously it's there's
always that chance being played. But that's that's just sports
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in general. It's always going to. The beauty of sports
is you can't one hundred percent know what's going to happen.
And that's and we've we've clearly seen that on display
for the first two races of the season. But I
also just think it's just a field. It's just getting
much more overall, a better, better, more all round field,
like seeing the likes of the Williams and the Hats
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so far this season. Just managing to constantly score points,
just just like quite quite effortlessly in my opinion, Like
that comes with obviously, but that comes with the regards
of the struggles off the higher ups as well, like
Liam Lawson, haven't him registered regeted points here? The ferraris
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struggling like this's been struggling and as like Fernando A Lonso,
I don't think it has a point either.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
So the two retirements so far one one one contact. Yeah,
if the season ended today, season ended today, who would
you be most impressed by?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I would say I would say that either the the
Williams or or the half.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
In my opinion, it has have been there hasn't been
in the in the mix. They've been near the near
the near the mid of the midfield. But exactly they're there, definitely. Yeah,
in a number of years, it's probably twenty seventeen, like
has they.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Took on two new drivers like they who haven't who
haven't worked together, and just managed to like turn for
the previous season on his head pretty much in the
first two races and then the Williams. As I said
before and as I've predicted it was, it was able
(47:32):
to make that jump even though Science has not been
performing to the quality we both hoped he would. Album
has stepped to the step to the play and we
haven't seen winning, and Winds is allowing him to That's
what's happening. They're not they're not They're not restricting him
and trying and just like for just let him in,
just stay at the the back markers. He's allowing him
(47:54):
to try and challenge for the top five at this point.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Speaking of hass I think this, well, this is the
first season in the history of the team that they've
started the year with one proven driver who's been in
the sport for nearly a decade now, well well almost
exactly a decade, estebank On having started in twenty sixteen
with the I believe the was it Minardi I can't
(48:20):
oh manner with the manor with the manner outfit. Yes,
So they have one established driver and one rookie. This
is the first time that they've started the season on
those terms in their team's history, which I think shows
a level of boldness to their to their strategy, but
also I think a sensible kind of move. They know
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that they're a team who's never going to probably not
going to be challenging for a podium this year. So
to have one strong and proven driver nurturing one young,
raw and talented driver, I think is a good It's
a good model for for.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Any of the very It's a very good dynamic to
have like the one person who's like, you know, he knows,
he knows what he's doing, he knows how the sport
has got his van.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
And then you have this one person who's like this bright.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Prospects, who's who's who has a who has a personality,
who has a way of like a very fun way
of driving. It's just like it's just like goes hand
and handing together. They like feed off of each other.
Really well, yeah, I'm impressed by has so far.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
And the last team I think we should talk about
team we haven't mentioned once this episode. Team with zero
points Alpine Reno Jack doing Pierre Gasley. Well, what are
we thinking? I mean, Alpen is a tea that if
we think back to twenty twenty, Daniel Ricardo finishes p
(49:47):
five in the Drivers Championship during that COVID adult season,
secures two podiums along the way, one at the Noburg
Ring one at the Bahrain International Circuit. Al being really
since that point, since that peak, since that high under
Daniel Ricardo have not performed since and this is looking
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like another season as back Marcos unless they can turn
something around you anything different.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, obviously last season we remember the Brazil Grand Prix
of them being the the podium bearers of their Grand Prix,
and I guess that was that was a bit of
a freak at a freak incident.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
What's happened for?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they were leading the race
at one time as well. And this season it was
not been the worst, like per gradually did finish a
p P eleven in Australian Grand Prix and then obviously
got disqualified in the Chinese Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
And then where did Jack do? Finishing the most was
the d n F.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
In the first uncrea Australia.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
And thirteenth, thirteenth in China.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
China, so he would have but he would have been
sixteenth if considering the oh yeah, yeah, definitely disqualified cars.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
And where was where was Ghastly before?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
I believe he was ahead of doing. I think it
was ahead of doing because he was laws and doing Ghastly.
I believe finished last, yes was last having crushed well.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm having the weird the weird incident with like, yeah,
just I was flapping.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
That was really odd.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, I don't really have that much to say. I
guess it's just not every team can be as successful
as each other. And the starting rates starting on the
stage of the season. We've already seen the amount of
parody we have. I guess you just cannot everyone cand
oft have their share of the party, you know what
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I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
So I don't, God damn it. Yeah, And I've shown
nothing so far to show that they deserve deserve points
that PI, you're so happy, So no pie for you.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
So I guess I don't think they'll do kicks out well.
I think they will definitely have their chances to.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They won't laying egg No, I think I think they'll
have their chances. As you say, if we have grand
pries that are as rowdy as these first two, then
our ping could be in the mix. I don't see
them competing regularly. I think they're going to be the
twenty twenty Williams of this.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
With the jump of like many mid back I mean
mid tier teams as we talked about earlier on like,
I guess like there's always going to be those type
of teams that are just going to miss out and
just and just not get that jump when other teams do.
And I'm thinking that for this season it's going to
be the Alpines.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
I agree to round things off let's have a let's
have a look, let's look forward. Let's stare into our future. Yes,
let's stair into the future. Stair into our crystal balls
or our be leaves or whatever you like, whatever tickles
your fancy. That is okay, But what do you what
are you thinking in terms of.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
For Japanese Toko.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
I'm i partially just because the home crowd. I think
Sonoda is going to have a really good race. I
thought he's going to be able to display his qualifying
strengths into the into the main race, so hopefully and
hopefully I would just be an amazing watchers to see.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's about twelve or
thirteen years now since Kamui kobe Ashi took home the
Grand Prix. Sorry sorry, I took home his I believe
one and only podium at Suzuka in twenty twelve. I
believe that was in the sober when he was there
with Checko Peris. That was a good day and I
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h well, which I obviously don't remember, having been four
at the time. But Yuki Sonoda, I would like to
see him at least get some points there.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, I think he definitely can. As we say racing balls.
They just need to translate their qualifying and paint into
the into the into the real race and they can
she success this season?
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Is it is it Oscar or Norris for the Grand Prix?
Speaker 2 (54:51):
I personally, personally think it could be either of them.
If whoever whoever has the better breakfast, it could it
literally could be that that whoever's eating that topics on
their day. I feel like we're going to be It's
gonna be like a contant cycle, like just like Norris Oscar.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
For the moment and waiting for the moment when we
have a kind of twenty seventeen Singapore Grand Prix or
twenty sixteen Spanish Grand Prix style coming together of the
two the two teammates. Because it's going to it's almost
an inevitability.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I feel like if it would have to be them,
they would have to have that type of that type
of encounter with each other.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
A massive crash and he's crashed into his teammates, the
two ladies come together.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, yeah, we need yeah, classic, we need one of those.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
But do you think the Ferraris would be able to
challenge for a podium or even get out of the
eighth and tenth points scoring at Suzuka.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Let's think about the grown pre we've had so far.
So we've had Chinese Grand Prix, which is kind of
medium speed speed corners. Yeah, Australian Grand Prix street circuit.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Heavily affects, highly affected by the rain as well.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Affected by the rain. Not many big breaking points Australia,
and they didn't do great. Suzuka is one of the
fastest tracks on the on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
I mean, considering the pace of Norris and Piastre, I
think they will be well ahead.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
They'll be eating good, They'll be they'll be eating real nice.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
M h.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I don't know. Could George Russell make it back to
back to back, That would be something I think.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
I think he definitely could. I feel like he had
the momentum to build on.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is the day, this is the day's streak ends
I'm gonna give I'm gonna give the final podium spot
to maxi Stappin in. Yeah, I'll say that, and I
think uk the top.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Seven I would say, I like that prediction.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
I think I just hope he just finishes in the
points of my for me, but top seven I like
that and I think we're going to see I think
we're going to see another.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
Another Antonelli Drivah.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, I could see, I could see a little. I
could see a little like you know, like P six
or something like that. I don't know. I feel like
an is just he's built. He's built to stay, he's
built to last. And I think I wouldn't be surprised
if he's one of those drivers you look back at
the end of the season and you're shocked that they
haven't had the d n F. Yeah, but he'll be Yeah,
(57:45):
he'll be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
What about what about the Ferraris. You said you asked
me if they could challenge for the podium. I don't
think so this week.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
This week, I'm I'm very I'm very well prepared to
hear like like a seven and a p A like.
I just I hope they turn it around soon. But
looking at looking at the literal track record for this
year record, but for the past two races, it's it's
(58:16):
not looking good, bra It's not look.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
That's the conclusion that we have. This week. Ferrari once
again face based the Bittern, the Clown, their clown costume,
the ah Man, those days, those days when we were
all so innocent. Spinotto as he was once known, now
(58:42):
working at well, but never forgotten. Beautiful, beautiful days, beautiful
days of Formula one for heritage. But now it's the
new era. The new era is a Formula one is back, sir,
the more and ready to do our finest journalistic jobs
(59:04):
and try our level best to cover to cover the
Going free to the best extent that we can. Yes,
hope you enjoyed this week's episode of F one.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Isn't real.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
We had, We made some unfortunate metaphors that will be
perhaps edited. Now we'll leave it all in Watson. Yeah,
join us in a few weeks. Time to discuss the
Japanese Going pre David anything, any closing statements.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
In the final words, it's a pleasure to be back
on the pod.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Can't wait for this was the season to come, and
after the first two races, I'm just excited. I've had
been more excited for a season since.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
Absolutely, we'll leave it there. Thank you very much, David.
As always, thank you for listening, feeling
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