FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Chris Bledsoe

Tonight, experiencer and author, Chris Bledsoe joins us to talk about contact, disclosure, and his best-selling book: UFO of God.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
This Hope Radio for the NASSIS headline of July eighth,
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The hast been found and there's now in the possession
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I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would
vanish if we were.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Facing an Aien threat from outside this work.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is Fade to Black.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
All right, good evening, How you doing. How you doing?
It's Fade to Black Today is Thursday, May eighth, twenty
twenty five. I am your host, Jimmy Church. What's cracking everybody?
Let's do this?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah. Excited This week on Fade to Black, Well, Monday
we were off air because I was hanging out with
Chris Bledsoe. Tuesday night we were off air because I
had oral surgery I did, and last night Bernie Bittman
was with us talking about synchronicity in an amazing conversation. Last

(01:54):
night tonight, Chris Bledsoe is here. Buckle up, kitties, Buckle up.
We're going to be talking about his book UFO of
God and a lot of other things. Tomorrow night, Hailey
Ramsey is with us, and we are extending our fade
to Black Week this week by one night. Normally I
say this is my Friday, it's your Thursday, and I

(02:18):
get the last laugh, right, or you do one of
us does, But not tonight. Now Tomorrow I have to work.
So Hailey Ramsey is going to be with us and
we will be talking about ancient Egypt's influence on the UK,
right and the rest of the world. And that is
tomorrow night. And I know a little bit about what

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is going to be revealed, and I just cannot wait.
It's going to be an excellent conversation tomorrow night with Haley.
And there you go. Now, I do have three major
events coming up shortly. I'll be heading out to Contact
in the Desert that is twenty nine through June second

(03:01):
in Palm Springs, California, and there you go. Chris Bledsoe
is gonna be there by the way. And then I
head to Peru with Brian Forster for the Inca Celebration
of the Sun that is June seventeenth through the twenty seventh,
and then we have another tour in November links for
that are below. And then I come back to the

(03:22):
States for the SI Games and that is August first
through the third, twenty twenty five in Charlottesville, Virginia. Yeah.
What was that movie called? Oh oh, oh oh, I
got it, John Carter on Mars, remember that, Virginia Vargin. Yeah, yeah,

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the Psychic Olympics. I'm a game show host for the weekend.
It's gonna be a lot of fun. August first through
the third, twenty twenty five, Charlottesville, Virginia and Varagine. Yeah.
All of the links are below for everything that I
will be doing in twenty twenty five. There you go,
all right. Now tonight, Chris Bloodsoe is with us and

(04:14):
I've called the show u Afoe of God, which will
allow us to which I always try to do, go
in any direction that we want to. So we're going
to be talking about his best selling book, and I
also want to tap into the latest developments in our
disclosure world. Chris, of course, is an experiencer. He's a

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strong believer in God. That's because of where he lives.
That's my belief, his life and his children. I just
spent the weekend with his entire family and it was
pretty cool hanging out with the bloodsoes an absolute amazing family.

(05:00):
As a parent, I just have to say he's done
it right right now. He's very passionate about keeping an
open mind, and with all of the events that we
did this weekend, I think him and I did probably
three or four standing room only events at the Contact

(05:21):
Modalities Expo, and watching the reception from our community to
Chris was very, very cool. But it's all about having
an open mind and that consciousness connection with UFOs and
how it impacts his faith. I'm not necessarily religious. I'm

(05:46):
completely spiritual. I'm always trying to figure out what's going on.
Right after we selected a new pope today, Pope Bob.
We got Bobby. We got Bobby. We got Bobby today.
And last night, after the show, knowing this pope thing
was going on, I watched the movie Conclave, and I

(06:10):
resisted watching it. And the timing of that movie coming
out and what the world just witnessed with the Conclave
very strange. And that's called the universe. Man. It's weird,
isn't it. So I'm going to try to get some
of the answers to the questions that I have. But

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Chris is doing the exact same thing along with his wife,
Yvonne and his family. They are on a journey. His
website is UFO of God dot com. The links for
that are below. You can check out the book if
you haven't already got it. And with that, I'm just
going to say, welcome, mister Chris Bledsoe.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
We thank you for having me. Jim jim you know
what you know, Chris?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know who calls me jim my mom when I'm
in a really bad situation.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna use that for now.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, I bet you are. Don't tell Yvonne. Don't
tell leyvon you know you know what's money. I'm gonna
say this, by the way, your family. I called Chris.
When did I call you? Chris? What doesn't matter. I
talked to Chris today and it was just like one
of the first things I said to Chris, Chris man
your family.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
But here's the thing. You know what I was afraid
of all weekend with Yvonne. I was gonna get grounded,
like eyvon Okay, that's it, Jimmy, enough, go to your room,
you know, and she's the best man. Your family. You seriously,
I'm a dad. You're a dad, but you must be proud.

(07:56):
You did it right.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I am proud. And if I loves you. By the way,
and she don't like everybody, I can tell you she's
one of those moms. It's always quiet and watching. But
it's all I heard about is Jimmy. She loves Jimmy
and so does all the kids. They we had the
best time, and there was this UFO thing that brought
us all together. You know, we we were ostracized, but

(08:22):
we hung in there and and I just have to say,
they look after me. It's you know, it's hard when
I've got thirty year old kids that are telling me
what to do all the time. Shit, you need this,
you need that, don't go that way, Go get a nap.
I'm going to this always right right.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, you know, I've known you for a while now,
and I feel like I've watched your kids grow up
and the you know, especially with Ryan so smart, and
all of them have a foundation with education and the

(09:07):
pursuit of knowledge, extremely extremely bright. Now I'm not considering
dwell and gush out on your family all night, but
I know them well. And Ryan is how do I
say this right? He's very smart, and he's a pillar
of knowledge. But he wants to kick it up a notch,

(09:30):
doesn't he. He is really thirsty forgetting his learn on.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And he will. He's wide open. He's in a Moreau
institute today. I mean he was just in Wisconsin. He
came from the Moreau, Wisconsin. Now he's back at the Monroe,
so he's burning up the road. But he's a smart
boy and his mom and I knew it when he
was a little tiny when he's two three years old,
he could see a movie and remember every detail.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
He still does everything. He just loves to research and
gobble up books and I'm proud of.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, you can tell. I was watching him ask questions
from different researchers there and that that was really cool.
You know, he's he's just you know, and he reminds
me of where I was at about that age where

(10:29):
everything is just new and fresh and you just want
to keep soaking it up. And that's exactly where he's
at on his journey right now. Twenty years from now,
he's going to be it's going to be something to
be dealt with.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I think you're right, And he follows you very
closely and he uses you and your show as like
a roadmap for him. So that's a big thing. And
I mean, he thinks a lot of you. I appreciate
all the help you give them and all that.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So yeah, yeah, it was great and we so I'm
just gonna tell everybody we actually uh, and this is
without exaggeration, the blood cells and myself and a couple
of friends of mine we had breakfast, lunch, and dinner
together for four days, you know, and uh and and
and and we didn't get in a fight. Normally a

(11:26):
family will get in a fight. We we managed to
not get that done. But uh, one of the we
had this extraordinary experience. Chris, you were part of it.
You were there. We were at dinner and we all
walked outside and and I'm standing there with Ryan and
Emily and Jennifer and we look up and there's a

(11:50):
bald eagle, a bald eagle man just right there looking
at us like it was and that again, it's just
I don't know, I don't know what do you make
of that at that moment? I don't know, but it
sure was cool and we got to enjoy. It's like,
how do you cap off a perfect weekend. Well, how

(12:13):
about whipping out a bald eagle?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Right, yes, yeah, yeah, landed right above you, right right.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
It was crazy, It was crazy, so much fun. All right,
this is what I want to do. Uh, I'm going
to start off here, and and I'm so happy that
that you and I are friends enough that that I
can ask a question like this and you're going to
answer honestly. The UAP defense u A p DF, I

(12:45):
should say, Uh, the members of the u A p DF,
half of them are friends of ours that we have
relationships with. And uh, yesterday Lou Elisondo and Gary Nolan
both resigned and there's a lot going on right now

(13:09):
on social media about this. What do you think about that?
And it comes right after the briefing that they had
last week on May first. What's going on? What do
you think?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you know, I can see why Lou might have
resigned because of that photo problem that he but why
Gary resigned, I don't know. I still have a lot
of friends, you know, on that board and working with
several of those folks there, you know, right regular, So,

(13:44):
but I don't know why Gary resigned. That was that
was a new one. But Lou, I think Lou's tired.
He's fought a battle a long time and it's a battle,
it really is. But I don't know, Jane.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, Uh, it's uh the Gary Nolan part and uh
Matthew Ford, who was their strategic partner in that strategist,
I think they called him. He wasn't on the board,
but Lou and Gary both were. They were on the

(14:23):
board there and uh, and I think you're right uh
with with Lou and uh that photograph that he showed
Congress in that briefing where you look at the board
and again I'm just speculating this is optics from my side,

(14:45):
but those are very very serious academics and professionals on
that board, you know, and they think, yeah, and they
think in a black and white way, that's just it.
And they're in a funding environment. A academics know what
that's like. And I just said optics when you have

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to have a very solid footing and you can't waiver
and you can't bs and that photograph is not the
optics that a funding environment with something like that needs.
And you know, and I'm sure that was most of it.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, yeah, there well could be the group that's there,
very serious folks. And I'm honored to be working with
some of the women there that are on that board,
these academics, and working pretty much weekly with them. In fact,
I was tonight with with some of those folks, and

(15:54):
I tell you there's a crowd of women there that
are very serious about the spiritual side of this thing.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
What's the okay, Chris, let's just can we can we
stay right there? Can you and I offend exactly half
of the world right now? You have men and women, right,
so let's just offend all the men out there. What
is it? What is it about about the feminine side

(16:21):
of looking at the UFO and et phenomenon that impresses
you so much? What's the difference between men and women
when it comes to the subject. When it seems that
it's a male dominated community. And I've never said that,
other people say that, but uh, what what is it
about women that impresses you when it comes to euthology?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well from you know, not hanging around UFO places, you know,
I've never done a whole lot of that, And this
contact will be my first time I've ever speaking there.
Last year I snuck in there and try I had
to hide myself and ended up on a panel. Right,
But from eighteen years of this and meeting you know,

(17:09):
literally thousands of people. Predominantly the women are the ones
that come to me mostly with having experiences, wanting to
know what happened to him. In other words, eighty year
old miss Joan uh season or fly by her kitchen

(17:33):
window or down the hall in her house, and she
she gets disturbed, word gets around. She calls me. I
hear tell, this is what you know, these Southern women.
I hear tell, you're the one and to know about
these kinds of things that's fallowed light come by and
I always start as Joan talk to me about what

(17:56):
was life like when that happened and my mom my
husband died. That's what she told me. So there's always that.
And it seems like the women are the ones coming
out of the woodwork, and the women's are the ones
that are more spiritual in nature than men, and they
get it easier, right, they get the spiritual side of it.

(18:18):
That's just from my.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
My under you're not wrong, You're not wrong, right, Yeah,
you're not wrong. The uh for my observing and I've
always been this way with the show where I will

(18:43):
have guests on that interest me. That's it, right, And
and and so you can see you can go through
and look at if you want to take the time
and look at, you know, a couple of thousand shows
and and go and look at the demographics of who's
been on the show. And I'll say it's probably fifty

(19:07):
to fifty. But I know, uh, you know, I'm talking
about male female guests. But I've gone through a month
of nothing but female guests. And it's just because it's
the way that it's happening. It's not intentional. It's just
what who I find compelling and interesting as a researcher

(19:32):
or an experience or whatever the subject may be. It
could be science.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Something.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, go ahead, Oh you skipped stay with me, Chris can.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
At my table for three days, right, just solid line
of people and all of them, not all of them,
but a good lot of them. Most of them are women.
If you notice women, they resonate this book.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
No, they resonate. They resonate with you. Man, they resonate
with you. They resonate with you. That's that's okay, there's
nothing wrong with that. But uh uh I. I I
used to get tired of hearing people say that this

(20:23):
is a man's world, uh uthology, and we need more women.
I don't see that from from where I am. I
just don't. I I don't. I'm okay with with where
we are at. And I do like your your point
there that women in a general sense are more spiritually

(20:48):
connected and have an open mind to that side where
men we like V eight engines in gasoline. Yeah, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I do. And I will say coming out of Washington,
I have a lot of friends in DC, a lot.
And I'll say this again here on your show, which
I did in Wisconsin. A lot of people say, oh, well,
Chris is being handled by the government. Right, well, wrong,
not true. I'm just fortunate enough that I know a

(21:22):
lot of people there and I'll get to study with them.
I've never signed a thing, and they don't tell me
anything to do. They're all nice people and have been
very accommodating. So that's my connection to and I'm connected
all the way to the senators and the Congressmans that
you see on television. These people, they're all nice people.

(21:45):
But there's a force of women that are growing within
that group. Like Luna. You know, she's a little superstar. Well,
there's some women around her you don't see behind the
scenes that are very powerful and very supportive. And I
have had the the the let's just say they share

(22:09):
they've been to my house, these people and seeing things
and shared it with Congress, even videos, high definition videos,
so they're very aware of what's happening. Then I'm just
excited about the way it looks like it's moving and
I don't know where it's going, but it's there's a

(22:29):
lot of women coming into the disclosure scene in Washington.
Let's just sayd do you think that.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay, let's put the male female side of this to
the site. The interest that has been shown both to
you and your property, by the way, by three letter
agencies and scientists, they they are looking at the phenomena

(23:03):
that is going on there and with you and around
you for very specific reasons. Do you believe, Chris that
it is because of other experiences and data that they
have already collected in the past and they are seeing
it repeated with you and your property.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well, they have first had the ability to study it.
For example, tonight, I was on the phone with five
women at once, all scientists PhDs. By the way, all
of them, and we were working together, and while we
were talking and we had to get our heads in

(23:50):
one accord, actually said a little prayer together. Really yes,
And when that happened, I mean, this is how serious
these people know what's going on. When it happened, this
orb appeared in the trees next to me, fifteen feet
off the ground and about big as at baseball and
was glowing red and blue, red and blue, shifting red

(24:13):
and blue. And I filmed it three times when it
appeared very close with with very good clarity. So I'll
send you a.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Copy of that, but I would love to see it. Yeah,
some of the stuff we're doing, okay, but you didn't
answer the question. And Chris, I will bust your balls, man,
I will bust your ball, okay, but you didn't. Is
it because they are they are familiar with what is

(24:43):
happening with you because of what they already know.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, I would be speculating, but I'm sure they they
know more than they let on to know for sure.
But when they're here, they're all errors without any knowing, right.
They never tell you what they know. So and I
don't try to drag that out of them, but they're

(25:11):
like kids in candy stores here when they get to
see this kind of stuff and experience, and it's just
we're going to do a whole lot more of that too,
a whole lot more research into this, conducting experiments and stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So the answer is yes, See, I got to pull
it out of you, man, I gotta pull it out
of you. So the answer is yes. The answer is yes.
They've been collecting data for a long time. They know
what's going on, and they see what's happening there, and
you know, and they have a first they have a
chance to verify not only their previous data and their contact,

(25:49):
but to also that's the scientific method, right to observe,
measure and repeat, and they can do that with you.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Right right, they get to Yeah, we're gonna do a
lot more of that too this year and several times
we're going to do some experiment in researching.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So but okay, Chris, can I ask you a question, Yes, sir,
who started the prayer today? You or them?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Them?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Really?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, very very These people, these women are spiritual telling
you they don't mind praying.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
And you know, it's running around the room, the rumors
running around Washington right now, And I heard Gary Nolden say, uh,
they're trying to start talking now, they're believing this thing
maybe totally about angels and demons.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know if you've heard that.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know, I have you and I have talked to
you about that.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, that coming out of so they don't know. Jimmy,
the government people I studied with, and it goes way
out up they all come to me not telling me
they know anything. More like, we don't know anything. There's

(27:15):
a door there that is cracked open, and you're able
to see what's coming out of it, but what's behind it,
we have no clue, right, So we're just seeing just
the edge of what's back there, and there's no telling
what's on the other side. I imagine there's some of everything.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Now. I saw a comment in social media with some
somewhere maybe somebody sent it to me, and the comment
was it was a picture of you and I together. Oh,
somebody sent it to me. I didn't see it. Okay,
I have to be completely honest here. Plus I'm talking

(27:57):
to Chris Blood, So I can't lie. I can't lie.
I can't do it. I can't I'll get grounded. I'll
get grounded. I'll get caught. Somebody sent me this this
comment that, oh, I'm hanging out with bloodsoe. So now
you converted me, and now I believe in the baby Jesus, right?

(28:19):
And are you okay with that kind of perception that
the community has. I mean, the book is called U
Fault of God. I get that. But are you okay
with the way the public looks at you that that
you're the Jesus et guy?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, I have no problem with that. That don't mean
that's what you know. I can't control what people's perceptions are,
but you can. That's not exactly what I'm saying though,
right if they read the book, he probably wouldn't say
that the book at all, say that the book. Basically,

(29:05):
somebody in the CIA told me that I was absolutely
my book and the cover was absolutely brilliant. He said,
you couldn't have done better than that. And it gets
a lot of people's attention, and it sells in the
Christian world, bigger than the UFO world by and far.
It's been number one in Angels and Spirits and the

(29:28):
Christian Fate for the last two years. And so yeah,
I'm glad they do that. And the more controversy the better.
It just sells more books.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I told I'm going to share for those that weren't
at the conference this weekend, and there's going to be
a lot of people watching that are watching now. But
Chris and I did a Q and A a few
times over the weekend. Man, Okay, so we did We
did the between two firms, right, we did the panel,

(30:04):
We did the meditation. That's three. It seems like we
did four. Was there a.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Grand finale?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
We did that too as well, And so we did
a lot of Q and a h and had a
lot of fun with it. But one of the things
that we talked about, and I want to go back,
and you just brought it up, so uh, I'm speaking
to the audience now in the interest of transparency.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Chris had finished the book and we talked on the
phone and he sent me the book isn't released yet
and he wanted my opinion on the cover. So he
emails me the cover and actually, I remember what it
was about. Chris. We were talking about doing a show

(30:56):
for the release of the book, remember that, And we
worked on that for like three or four months. Right,
it was a long time, but finally, uh, we're ready
to do that, and the book is we got to
release date. But anyway, so Chris sends me the cover
of the book and he goes, if she's talking to me, okay, man,
you got it. I got it. Okay, what do you think?

(31:17):
And I'm looking at it? And what did I say?
I said, it's pretty strong? Remember that? You remember that?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And uh?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I go and you go, so what do you think?
And I said, well, it's cool. I dig the Da
Vinci and all of that. But I go, dude, you
fo god remember that? And you go yeah. Man, I said, okay,
it's strong. Are you ready for this? And he said, look, man,
it's it's it's what's going on? Do you think it

(31:48):
wasn't strong enough? Now that the reaction has been pretty good.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
No, I think that that it was inspired from the
whole thing, all the words in it, from the cover.
I let the phenomenon and the lady guide me, and
I trust me. When I go out at night, I'll
take everything that I have a decision to the stars

(32:14):
and I ask and if it responds to me, I
take that, I say yes. If it don't, then I don't.
I take that as a no. So the whole cover,
even My next book is in the works, the name
and all for it. The heavens told me what I
needed there, and so when I released that, it's going

(32:38):
to be all inspired like this first one.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Here, let me pull up, Chris, I am going to
pull up the cover of the book so everybody can
actually see the image. There's the cover UFO of God.
Oh oh, that's the Spanish cover, right, same thing, Yeah,

(33:02):
same thing, that's the Spanish cup. Well man, that doesn't
have the impact, does it. Okay, let me try this
one more time, folks. That just goes to show you
I don't know what I am doing. I should know.
What I am doing.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Is an Italian version? Oh?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Is that what that is? Was that Italian?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
An Italian version too? But hopefully there's a Portuguese and
a Habrew version coming soon.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Are you serious? Okay?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I already have the translations on the German, but the
other two.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Has Okay, let me get let me get rid of this,
Let me get rid of this. See normally with stuff
like this, that's already done before the show starts. And
right now, Okay, there we go, there we go. There's
the cover of the book, and that's that's what I
saw everybody, and it's like, okay, all right, it is

(34:03):
it is. It is heavy, but you know what I
dig about it? Look at the crystal ball? Is it
just me? Or are there three orbs in there?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah? And two? I want to say something about that, Jimmy,
since you're talking about that, I'm gonna give the whole
audience a little secret. It's not a crystal ball. And
Da Vince, you would have known that when you a
crystal ball and everything in the back would be reversed
upside down. So it can't be a crystal ball. It
has to be a translucid or oh right, yeah, the

(34:39):
three dogs. That ball could represent one of two things.
And is that right?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So it would be your would it be reversed?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
It would be If it was a crystal ball, you'd
see everything in the background reverse, And Da Vince, you
would have known that.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
You don't keep keep talking, finish. I thought, I've got
a crystal ball right over here, keep going.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Keep going a secret. There's there's three dots in there.
And if anybody follows me on Instagram and has for
all these years, know that I rave about three The
beans had a triangle on the shirt they come in threes,
always in threes. I filmed them in threes. Three three

(35:27):
orbs at the We filmed somebody at the SkyWatch in
Wisconsin filled three orbs with wings that flew over this
weekend at the SkyWatch, which I slipped out to.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
But in the book I write about the lady gave
me this little message where she said that the star
of Regulus would align on in the gaze of the
spinx right on the horizon, and when that happen and

(36:00):
there would be this change in knowledge, right, she told
me that, And so I put that out there and
it's in the book. And next year is when that
alignment's supposed to happen. And Robert Grant, Robert Edward Grant,
which would be a contact, can't wait to see him.
He's worked on this puzzle about the sphinx and the

(36:23):
pyramids and the Hall of Records and this ruby which
we come to terms to know that that ruby is
the star of Regulus. Right. So over the last supper
painting the ADVENTU did with Jesus written over top of him,
Robert was able to find hidden up there this word

(36:46):
Regulus written above him, which means the little King. So
one of those dots in that ball represents the star
of Regulus. One represents Venus and one Jupiter, but the
other represents Regulous.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well fascinating, and yes it is backwards, by the way.
Look I'm looking at Chris backwards. I'm looking at Chris backwards.
Yeah wow, yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So there's a lot of hidden stuff I put in there,
and I'll reveal more of this in my second book
about this kind of thing. But there's some interesting things
happening around Egypt, and I don't know what all, but
we need to keep our eyes on that whatever comes
out of it. But over the next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Somebody just posted they over the weekend that they didn't
go to the SkyWatch because it was canceled, And it
was because we canceled. And so the second night we're
having a party for Paula Harris and Chris retired for

(38:02):
the night to his room and then people went up
and started pounding on his door, and freaking Chris, being
the gentleman that he is, walked down into that crowd.
That was what they decided to do their own SkyWatch,
and there turned out to be like fifty seventy five
one hundred people down there on the shoreline, and man,

(38:24):
you're a trooper. Man.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
That was about ten thirty when I got out there,
and it was between eighty and one hundred people and
they went long and we had them all year.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it just I don't know.
I'm Chris and I are about the same age, and
Chris and I worked. Chris and I and Yvonne. We
were the first people that we saw in the morning
and the last people we saw at night. You and
I know how hard you know, we were on our

(38:56):
feet for twelve fourteen hours.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, and I can I believe you went out for
that SkyWatch.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
These people come so far and you know, they're fans,
and I couldn't let them down. So I snook out
there and we had and I told Melissa, I said, Melissa,
count me in for next year. So we're all coming back.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, we're all coming back. We're all coming back that resort.
I want to get back to UFOs. But that resort
and that conference was perfect. It was perfect. Melissa Caine
and her crew, everybody around her, Dan and Chris and
the audio and the volunteers, and her family. Her family

(39:43):
might be cooler than yours, Chris, I'm just letting you know.
I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh, they were beautiful people.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Beautiful What a conference. I mean, it was just I
was so happy. She came up to me, she goes, Okay, Jimmy,
you can make the announcement. I said, what what announcement?
We're coming back next year. You're going to be here
with Chris. Get up on that stage and get on
that microphone, little mister, and make that announcement. I couldn't wait.

(40:13):
I'm just so happy about that. It was a great conference.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Was great too. I'm voted. I'm gonna promote it for
and I have to say, this is the first one
I've been to in the Midwest. You know, most of
them are East coast or west. But hey, I could
hardly get home from all the cheese and the chocolates
and the goodies these beautiful people brought us. I mean

(40:37):
it was like incredible. I had a whole grocery bag
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, me too. I'm still I'm still eating the snacks. Yeah,
Chris goes. Chris texted me. Chris texted me the next day,
and he goes, I should read the text, Chris. People
aren't gonna believe it. Chris texted me, goes, Man, this
cheese is amazing. Man, took the cheese.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Home, Domic vinegar cheese. I've never had bosamic vinegar cheese,
but it's like the best.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
So yeah, yeah, Wisconsin's got cheese figured out. And and
the restaurants there right, and the night, the lounge, and man,
it was just just a beautiful, beautiful resort. I mean
that that's a world class resort right there.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Again, I just love the people. I mean, it's crazy.
I'm in North Carolina, right and this guy comes and
he said I came from South Dakota. I'm like, wow,
how far? How long a drive was that? He's like
six hours? And I thought, dang, I'm a lot further
away from home than I thought.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I'm a long ways right.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So trying to figure out where we were in relation
to people coming from Nebraska and Oklahoma and Michigan and Wisconsin,
it was it was fun.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah. Man, we were in Wisconsin. We were like ten
miles from Santa's Village. That's yeah, yeah, that's where we were. Now. Uh,
we've got hearings happening on this week and Representative Eric

(42:22):
Burlison just announce and I'm going to quote him. I
don't know if you saw this quote he said, next week,
Chris quote is next week is UFO week, u AP week.
That's a that's a that's a pretty heavy statement coming
from an elected official, isn't it. Do you expect that

(42:44):
next week? Do you expect next week to be you
AP week? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
I do.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I do, And I'm behind the scenes, you know, involved
in that, and luckily I have to say that some
of my stuff will be floating around in that whole thing.
The the witnesses that have been here, you know, a
lot of them, you know, six and eight at the time, scientists, PhDs,

(43:14):
so a lot of they're looking not at just military
now they're looking at the civilian me and others like
us that experience, that have this experience that they're taking
a look at everything, and it's exciting. I think you're
gonna they're going to move the ball down the court
a lot in the next few months.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
With Chris's I've never asked you this before. With Chris's
contact experience with that being and how that was described,
including the little furry dude that was living in your
outhouse or the chicken coop? What was it chicken coop?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Was it chicken coop or dog dog kennel?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, dog kennel With Chris's encounter. Was that religious or
was that something altogether different?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
No? No, it wasn't a religious encounter for me. Got
to remember the reason I wrote this book, Ufo of God.
I grew up in the church, right, and I had
suffered from hit the bottom, and I had gotten away
from the church, busy building houses one hundred and thirty

(44:37):
a year and raising four kids, and I just quit
going like i'd been and got real sick. Long story short,
I'm ready to die. I me at that stage. God,
I don't like what I'm thinking. I don't want this.
I love my kids more than anything helped me. And
this is where I was. And then these balls of

(45:01):
fire come out of the sky UFOs, right, So I'm
crying out to God and here comes UFOs and that's
how I'll come. The book cover got there, well, it
never left and I still document it. And I've been
documenting it over eighteen going on nineteen years now, and

(45:22):
in front of everybody, in front of the highest authorities
in the government, they see it and it comes when
I ask a little prayer, the same way it came
nineteen years ago, it comes today. So that's why the
governor is called Ufo of God. But what it all
means I don't know yet, Jimmy, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Well, I understand, Chris, I totally get it. You prayed
and you got UFOs. You prayed, you prayed, he got
UFOs and now you got to make sense out of that.
But going back to Chris's experience, the bushes, right, but
is that connected in the same way?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, so connected. And you know, in the course of
his learning, he had to learn to get through the fear.
But what really got him wasn't the fact that he
saw this and it scared him. I could have belonged.
Probably made him feel a lot better about that right quick.

(46:29):
But the problem was that people from the community and
the church came in and started saying, your dad's playing
with the devil, and it got so bad from every
angle that he ran away. He didn't want to hear
this anymore, and it instilled fear. So he ran for
five six years. And when he came home, he and

(46:49):
I started spending time together outside every night, and he'd
see how it responded to me, and he lost all
that fear and now he he can have it appear
in front of him just like I do. And he
sees it the way I see it. And that don't
mean it's about, uh, you know, a religion of any kind.

(47:13):
It's more about a personal connection to something much greater
that hears us and that will answer you and will
heal people and bless you. And I've seen that happen.
In fact, they're they're they're trying to do all the
miracle investigations right now on me within the Catholic Church,

(47:34):
because there's a lot of them people writing me and
you know, healings and stuff. So it's you know, it's
all happening.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Okay, look at the screen, you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I love that? What is that?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's the cover of the book. See yeah, the book
with with this the way that some inside of Washington,
DC are looking at this this angel and demons thing?

(48:15):
Is it that? Are angel and demons? Angel and demons?
Or are we calling them that because those are the
words that we have used for a couple of thousand years.
Are we using the wrong words today to describe it?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Now? I think the words tell you points to what
the old timers were saying. But what that definition of
that is needs to be explored.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But the word if I said alien, well you think
of something in a machine coming with teeth and ray guys.
But when you say angel, you think of something spiritual.
So the whole thing reacts in a spiritual way. Here's
your thoughts. It knows what you think, and the worst enemy.

(49:10):
If you ever want to see this phenomenon, To all
the listeners out there, I'll tell you there's a key
to it. I can teach you. I can't teach everybody.
There are three kinds of people. There are three. There's
one that can see. There's one that can see if
I show them, and then there's that one that can't.

(49:31):
Never see. As hard as you try to show them,
their brain gets in the way and they're skeptical. So
those people, you can't help them. But skepticism is what
kills your ability to see it, because they're aware of
your thoughts, they're aware of your fear, they're aware of

(49:51):
your apprehension. If you ask, seek and you'll receive knocking.
The door will be open. If you want to see it,
you will see it. If you're skeptical, and everything that
flies over. Oh that was a satellite, that was a plane.
You're never going to see it. You got to get
that out of your brain and let your head and

(50:12):
your heart connect. In other words, if you tell Jimmy
tells his daughter he loves her, he does when he
says that, he feels it when he says it. Well,
when you're asking the phenomenon to come, you've got to
say what you mean or mean what you say you know,
and connect that that together that makes you want to cry.

(50:38):
That's where I get that part there, and that's they
react to emotion. We know this from science, studying my brain,
studying my son's brain. Right now at the Monroe they
study my daughter's brain. You can get to see this
here June third. I think History Channels Beyond Skim Walkers

(51:01):
series is coming back out this year in June, and
you can see some of that brain study we're doing
at the Monroe. So but they know it's emotion space.
So that emotion, that feeling, it's all connected.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And Kim Kim just said in the chat room, Matthew
McConaughey could play you in the movie. Yeah, yeah, now
now I can't. That's that's never going to leave, that
is never going to leave. I'm going to reach out
to him. I'm gonna we need to make that happen.
Uh Now, Okay, So I understand the angels part. What

(51:43):
about the demon's part. Some of these et demons.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Well, I think that the demons are non physical being
just like the church has people that that exercise you.
That they're not coming in light They don't come in
the physical form. They come in your thoughts and in
your that they can inhabit you. And very powerful ones
too might canpot their head into our reality some of them,

(52:12):
but for the most part, they're non physical Paris.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So let's talk about the angels for a second, and no,
I'm gonna ask you a question and then I want
you to answer with all right, all right, all right, okay, okay,
I want to I want to ask you about angels. Okay, right,

(52:40):
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get blasted by lightning right now,
I'm gonna get. I just had to do it, man,
I had to do it. And feel free to do
that any anytime you want tonight. If they're non so
they don't have a diet, I'm not being cavalier. We're
talking about energy and spirit. Energy, you know what I mean,

(53:02):
energy beings, right, I mean I doubt the lady is
physical and is going to eat pizza or something.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Well, she comes in as a spirit, and just like
these beings out of these orbs, they are like spirits.
They come out of that light into a glowing humanoid figure.
You know, it looks like us, the woman does the lady.
The little ones look like a glowing ball or glowing
humanoid figure. But the demonic entities would be in your thoughts.

(53:37):
They would be whispering in your ear and make you
go crazy and do things you ought to know to do.
And they've known that forever, you know. They people tend
to think the guys that wrote the Bible and these
books are dumb, right, or they didn't get it right. Well,
they built the pyramids, and let's figure that one out.
They built They built stuff like ine and these stone

(54:01):
walls and these complex things. You know, they had to
be smarter, and we think they are. But I'm not
saying everything in that books right. And as far as
a religion and a control system, that's not me anymore.
I think we all have we all have that connection

(54:22):
and we can all learn how to use it, all
of us.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Is I want to ask you this too as well.
And again I'm trying not to offend anybody, and certainly
not you, Chris. But is God just a word?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I think God is everything? No?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
No, is it just everything? Is everything? I get that
I'm saying. Is God just a word applied to a
situation of phenomenon? If there is something that is infinite
you and I talked about that weekend, Right, infinite, it's
a big friggin number, man, so infinitely old, infinitely wise,

(55:06):
infinitely full of knowledge, the ability to create. There's earth,
another galaxy, right okay, right, right, right, Well we call
that God. But it's just something that is really old
and really smart and has a little talent too, and

(55:27):
we call that God. That's what I'm saying. Is God
just a word?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah? It's a program. It's basically a program. Somebody wrote it,
somebody created as operating system we live with. Then, and
when God comes to visit us, he can come in
an inform or she this is who I think maybe
the lady may be a representation of that divine source

(55:57):
or and you know, and it appears to every race
around the world and in their own way, to the
Native Americans and to the Japanese. So it's not one religion.
It's not about religion. This is what I've been saying
all along. It's about everybody. And God is a three

(56:18):
letter word. So the Muslims can't make God uh theirs,
nor can the Jewish people, nor can the Baptists. God
is everybody's. And we got to get out of the
nonsense of this fighting each other. But to believe there's
no such thing as God, I can't fathom.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Right right right, And that's where.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I think.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
That's where I am. You know what I mean. You
live in the Bible belt, man, you got you got
you trip over religion in you know, on a sidewalk
right right, it's everywhere. I was baptised Catholic. And I

(57:05):
keep saying this. But Chris and I talked a lot
this weekend and one of the things I told Chris
about this one of the things that messed me up.
I mean, I was twenty years old, Chris. Somebody gave
me this conspiracy book on the Vatican, right, and maybe

(57:26):
he was a Baptist that gave me the book out
of and so I get the book, and it said
in there that the Catholics took the Ten Commandments, took
one commandment out, took another commandment, split it in half,
made ten more commandments, and threw one out. And I went,
that's bullshit. There's no way that happened. So I get it. Yeah,

(57:49):
So I get my bike and I look and I
was like, oh, oh, now, I'm just saying, man, Pope
Bob is just going to be up with this. But
I went, I'm not good with that. And that's when
I kind of backed up and went, I don't know
if it's if I'm religious, but something miraculous happened with

(58:13):
the creation of the universe. But I don't think it's
the I don't think it's religious that religion that came
into play there. I think it's something else, something massively
intelligent and massively old that we call God.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It's a system. We live in, a huge system that
has roles, in parameters and living life within it that
are here to affect as positive or negative either way,
and whether we like it or not, it's there and

(58:53):
we can choose to take the path we want. That's
kind of way I see it. And I think that
we don't need anybody to pray us into heaven. We
don't need anybody to get us there. We all have
the ability to talk straight to God. That's what Jesus
was saying when Nick killed him. He said, the Kingdom

(59:15):
of Heaven is within us. Right. One thing I you
did that that it's pretty amazing to read or watch
or study is sacred geometry. And one of the pioneers
and that was doctor Robert Gilbert, and he just recently passed.
He you can study his material called the Vesica Institute,

(59:36):
and he is he was a very smart guy, PhD.
In the Egyptian Egyptology. And one thing he told me that,
and he's a ros Christian right Knights templar all this,
he's very high up and did this stuff. And he
told me, he said, Chris, in Egypt, everything there, all

(59:58):
over everything, it's talks about the netter, the nettur, he
kept saying, which means nature in English. And he said,
you'd always see it, these beings everywhere with little feathers
on their head. But it all talks about forces of nature,
how the spirit world interacts with humanity through that bald

(01:00:20):
eagle that we saw the other night, or through that hawk.
You know, raw was a hawk or a falcon and
or crocodile for the underworld as a jackal, but forces
of nature. So I add that into the mix of
religion and all that, and it all becomes hard to understand.

(01:00:43):
It's a new horizon in front of us. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Well, we're going to take a break, but when we
come back, Chris, I want to pick up with your
nature comment. I want this to continue. I find that
really interesting. Our guest tonight, the one and only Chris Bludsoe.
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welcome back, Fada Black. I am your host, Jimmy Church. Tonight,
Chris Bledsoe is with us, and Chris. Nature is an
interesting point because the universe is full of life. That's nature.

(01:05:35):
It's everywhere, and we have a right as earthlings to
know about nature. That's it. Why is there such pushback
with this subject? Why do they want to keep nature
from us? Isn't that just a fundamental right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yourself? Why they make it illegal to interact with dolphins?

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
They do know, they don't now you're making stuff up, Chris, No,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Why is it? Why do you have to be regulated
to work with bees?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah? I mean it's so much about nature that they
restrict us in stuff like that. It makes you wonder, right.
But one thing Robert was teaching me, Doctor Gilbert, was
that examples. For example, in the book in the Bible,

(01:06:40):
there's a story about Ezekiel, the will within the will.
I think a lot of people's heard that, whether they're
religious or not, the will within the will. Ezekiel talks
about these opening or these angels that or this will
that's revolving, and they try to say whether there's eye

(01:07:00):
all around it, and they depicted that, Well, that's not
what that means. And Hebrew the word, that word actually
means knowledge. So these things have all the knowledge that
it can read your thoughts. Right. So they land in
front of him, and it says, and he walked between them,
and what come out as what was his description of

(01:07:22):
the angelic being he saw was only one part him
had the face of an eagle, and a lion, and
a cow or a locks and a person. And one
thing I find crazy. This all the stuff's unfolding Robert
Grant here again again about Robert. You know, he just

(01:07:45):
found all this stuff in the pyramid. There's never been
any inscriptions in any of the pyramids. Well, in the
King's chamber, he's recently said that he has found these
four faces of these angels theyske described in the King's
Chamber on each wall.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, I've seen these images of that. I think you
have to let your imagination go a bit to see those.
But it is interesting, though. Chris is talking about Robert Grant,
and Robert's a very smart guy, all right. He's a
very smart guy, and he sees things that you and

(01:08:26):
I don't, and and his brain works a different way,
and he's able to put that together. I looked at
those images. You squint a little bit, Yeah you can
see it, I guess. But how was it? How was
it missed for so many thousands of years?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I don't know that technology he uses can find it.
But that bull that he showed me with his oculous
glasses was like no missing that at all. It was huge.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah, yeah, I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It inside of it was just like when the lady
came to me, she came at me as a bull,
and I read about this, and I've said it all
these years, since twenty twelve. One of the biggest things
that impacted me was the force of the wind and
then seeing these stars inside this thing when it went over,

(01:09:21):
and then to see it on the pyramid in the
King's chamber. It was like shocking. It was just so,
it was just amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Now, But isn't it our fundamental right to know about
et in contact? Why it's just nature?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Man? Well, yeah, that's the thing I like about Jim
zim Vand that's one thing he always told me. He said,
tell your story, Chris. Nobody owns this. Everybody owns this.
No company, no country, no government owns this. I don't
be afraid. You tell your story. And that's Jim and

(01:10:04):
the CIA, right. This is the kind of the way
they've approached me. It's never been any other way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
But is the government? Is the government in your opinion?
Is the government afraid of maybe losing control the control
that they enjoy if this starts to it, this continues
on the path that it is, that it won't any

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longer be in their control.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
I'll tell you what I think. And based on eighteen
years of studying this, learning from the very beginning when
I first started studying with NASA on this, something I
learned right away was that they know that people that

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start experiencing the UFO all of a sudden becomes very psychic.
That's why everybody in the UFO world does remote viewing.
That you notice they're all doing it, it's because they
actually do become psychic. Well, it's hard to fool somebody
that's got psychic abilities more than it is the average person. Right,

(01:11:20):
So you get the whole country starting to become very psychic,
then yeah, maybe they lose control. Maybe that's thee.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
With these hearings that are about to kick off. If
some of these whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and others, maybe
even David Grush, I would like another round of questions
with him, And it looks like with Eric Burlison that's
going to happen. Oh, by the way, did you see
the announcement Eric Berlison got David Grush's security clearance back?

(01:11:54):
Really yeah, yeah, yeah, look out, Yeah, that's that's a
big deal. That's a big deal. So, which means access
skiff and other things too, or right around the corner.
But with this next round, let's talk about crash retrievals
for a second. What do you know about what have

(01:12:20):
you been told? You don't have to name names, but
are we in possession of alien spacecraft that we are
reverse engineering?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I've been told that all these years. Yeah, but you know,
I've been told that just like everybody else, but behind
the scenes with some pretty amazing people, they all maintained
that same thing. And I've been tested with some of
the metal from it, actual whole parts, so not just slags,

(01:12:54):
but you know, materials. So if it's coming from where
they say it's coming from, and it did have an
effect on me, write about that in the book. Yeah,
they undoubtedly have something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Do you think that Congress and the Senate are going
to be able to take that a step further and
maybe bring in somebody like the CEO of Skunkworks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I don't honestly think they're never going to get anywhere
with this because it's classified and all they're doing Jimmy
as a whole, they're making the public more where it's
real by saying we have it, we got it, we
have it. And for the next ten years they'll keep
saying that, but you'll never see it because it's classified,

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and they can't be classify it. Nobody can take a
major act of the whole Air Force and everything attached
to it to drop the classification. They won't tell the
president what they got, you know they I don't think
the government will ever give us what we want. I

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don't think they can. I think it'll be me and
you that actually ends up playing a bigger part in it.
Share publicly. That's what I've been doing, is sharing it
publicly with over close to five hundred people this month
I've had with me outside under the stars that witnessed

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and recorded stuff with me. It's my five hundred and
that spreads like wildfire.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
I'm watching the comments in the chat. Everybody's listening to
the crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah you can hear them out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Yeah Yeah, they're either very big or there's a lot
of them, or maybe both. Maybe it's both them North
Carolina Crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah. I'm in my shop. If I stepped out, it
would be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Man. I love that. I love that. What do you okay? Uh?
The James Web and our ability, it's not just the
James Web is one component of a lot of things
right now. But it seems that well, it doesn't seem
a lot of NASA's projects and and the ESA that

(01:15:27):
are being launched right now are all looking for alien life,
right that is, that is the big thing right now
in UH in cosmology and science. Do you think that
they are going to bounce into something UH that is

(01:15:48):
going to be crazy and make that announcement to the
world about et and contact. And if that happens that way,
and I think gets a big possibility of that, that
that takes the pressure off of the government. They don't
have to admit to it, that science announces it first,

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and so the pressure's off.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
It might go that way. In fact, I hear rumors
that there might be something out there they're looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, I've heard the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
What have you heard, Well, I've heard that there's something
come in our direction. It'll be about early late twenty
twenty six, early twenty twenty seven, that there's suspicious that
it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
A rock, that's not a rock, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And what an interesting way for it to go down
that is out of the government's control.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I've heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Now, I don't know it's true, but I've heard it.
Have you heard it from somebody pretty serious?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yeah, expand Chris, I'm not gonna let you off that easy,
you know, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I can't say a name, my signed something, say I
wouldn't say this name.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
So okay, don't say, oh, it's a heat. Yeah, it's
a heat, Chris. I'm good, aren't I?

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
You twisted my arm? Bed?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah? Man? A scientist, yeah, scientists, so not military. So
they are tracking a craft that is headed towards our
star system.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I heard they had suspicion. They're they're tracking something that
they had suspicion that it wasn't necessarily But I don't
know this to be true. You hear so much running around.
Just let you do. You've heard the same thing. I
just can't say who said it? Who said it as
a pretty serious person.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Arthur C. Clark, I've talked about this so much, But
Arthur C. Clark in his Rama series of books, talked
about this exact same thing. And Arthur C. Clark had
a very strange prophetic way of writing. Right, it was

(01:18:27):
science fiction, Chris, and all of that shit happened, you
know what I mean? It was like really weird, man.
And and in the Rama series of books, we start
tracking a craft that is going to eventually come into

(01:18:50):
Earth's orbit and because they are tracked and it took
a few years, right, they started tracking, but they knew
when and and that's why the book is called Rendezvous
with Rama, right, and they called it what's that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Armada?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Really? Armada?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
That's the word I heard, arm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Which is more than one ship? Right? Wow, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
If it's true that sort.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Are you comfortable with that? And is this if, if
it does happen this way in Nuts and Bolts craft,
is it connected to the orbs and the other interdimensional
consciousness aspect of the phenomena that we are experiencing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah, it's very connected to it. In fact, I want
to say something for everybody to pay attention to. In
my book, I write about some things in the future.
I don't like to be called a prophet, and I'm not.

(01:20:10):
I just repeated what the lady told me, or I
just wrote it down and repeated it, because she told
me that when you see Israel and I ran in
Syria at war or exchanging weapons, at that point, they're
going to rise up and awaken the people. They're going

(01:20:32):
to come out and force and show themselves. That's what
she told me. And stop it all. Well, I put
that in writing and I told some very high up
people this is what I was told, right, And so
during November December, November December, I Ran was firing missiles

(01:20:54):
at Israel, and orbs and drones were everywhere, right, remember
all the orbs and drones, and all of a sudden
that kind of quit because the fighting stopped. So what
the government found out about that was they were very
close to what's called catastrophic disclosure, may name, if to

(01:21:16):
keep pushing the buttons, something might come down here and
stop it all and say, you know, we're in charge now.
So that's something everybody should pay attention to. Where'd all
the drones and orbs go suddenly?

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Do you remember? I don't know if you read it,
but maybe you saw there's a three part movie again
Arthur C. Clark where he writes in Childhood's End again, man,
it makes you wonder if that's how it would go down, right.
So two things that were very interesting about how we

(01:21:55):
approached that book. E T look like a demon okay,
had hoofs right, wings, red yellow et It was crazy, right,
big huge demon, just what we would like a gargoyle,

(01:22:18):
you know what I mean? Like a demon, and that
was one aspect that was very interesting. And he didn't
want to show himself to the world because people would
freak out and demonize him. All right, right, but what
does he do? He tells the earth that they are

(01:22:43):
going to fix disease, fix our food issues, fix all
of our problems, and we wouldn't have to work. All right, Now,
what does that do? He becomes our friend, right and

(01:23:06):
ultimately what did they want? Our kids? Yeah? Yeah, and
and the planet by the way. But we earthlings acquiesced,
We tapped out, you know what I mean, because we're lazy, right.

(01:23:30):
We like the fact that we were going to just
be taken care of. And that was an interesting approach
to the book, which goes back to like what Tom
DeLong has said, or even Stephen Hawking, be careful, all right,
be careful, don't don't know. We don't know what is

(01:23:53):
what is out there, and we're making contact with something
that we don't fully understand.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, that's what the church preaches. They preached fear everything
you can't see is the devil. Don't go there, will
help you come to us and we'll help you, you know,
get through all that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
But well, Tom but you bring up a great point.
The lady told you things that were pretty frightening. Yeah,
pretty frightening, like Fatima, so frightening that that stuff stayed
under lock and key, didn't it. The Vatican took that

(01:24:36):
and said, nope, nope, we're keeping this to ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Yeah, but I did, and I told you, and it's happening.
Everybody's seeing it. You can read where I wrote it
and where I told it many years ago, and see
what happened past Christmas. That was a big test, and
they got a big fright over that thing. All those
drones coming out. Let me tell you, it got some
attention real quick, and the whole thing simmered down on

(01:25:03):
both sides, very fat they give they start jacking it
back up like that. You're going to see these orbs
start coming back out again in full force. The harder
they push it, the more they're gonna come. It's just
like the food fighters in World War two.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Right right right, And it's it's getting hot right now
with India and Pakistan over Kashmir right, a very sacred
place for many people. Do you think if that continues,

(01:25:42):
we'll see the orbs come back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
I think it's pretty crazy because one of the songs
that the lady gave me, you know, I helped aspire
Grint came in to write a book about music. There's
a message into music. And one of the songs you
gave me was the song Kashmere and that stuck with
me forever. What does that mean? Well, you're telling me
about Kashmir and the songs you know, led Zeppelin song

(01:26:08):
Kashmir one of five that, uh so I had some
sort of meaning there. And you know they say there's
rumor that Jesus was in Kashmir, that he went through there,
and they have a Bible, I think, as the Indians
have a Christian Bible saying he was there from that area.

(01:26:29):
So I don't know, was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Hey, Chris, was Jesus? Jesus? Was Jesus? An alien?

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Well some people say that or think that, but I
don't like that word because alien doesn't mean to me
anything of a divine source or of a spiritual source.
Alien with man Et with a reg gun coming from
the Galacta Federation, you know, with Valiant Thor and all

(01:27:07):
these characters. We're talking about something that comes in a
spiritual way that helps hill people, that cares for us
that come because you had a near death experience and
it said your time is not over yet, you got
to come back. These are the orbs. These are the
same orbs that are talking to people who die.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
But doesn't that feel extraterrestrial too as well? Not to me?
Don't it feels that way to me when I hear
you say it. Yeah, I'm okay with either way.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Yeah, either way, it's fine. I'm not selling religion by
no means. I'm just saying there's something there that hears
your thoughts and that I will bless you if you
ask it to, and does others when I ask it to.
At times, not every day, but a lot of people
write me saying I had cancer, I don't have anymore

(01:28:08):
when they come here. So what does it all mean?
I don't know, Jimmy, I wish I knew. I'm definitely
not selling religion. But for eighteen years I can tell you,
eighteen years ago they laughed me out of mofon when
I told them they were angels. Eighteen years ago they

(01:28:30):
told me this is just too much to talk about.
And so everywhere in the UFO world I went, I
got the snicker. There's the Jesus s guy, look right
right right right, ray guns And I'm like, no, I
didn't see that. It was spiritual.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Eighteen years now, look eighteen years later, everybody has now
changed their old story to something spiritual, all all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
You know what you should do, No, you know what
you and I should do our next time on stage.
We can do this at contact in the desert. Okay,
walk up on stage and come up to me and
just pop me in the head and just say you
are healed. Just do it right there, and just let

(01:29:21):
let let that video spread on the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yeah, let's do it. It'll be fun, it'll be fun.
But if we look back, crisp, serious face. Let's put
a serious face on for a second. If you look
at some of the events in the Bible, almost most
of them, they are technology based. I don't think they're

(01:29:47):
spiritually based. I mean, look, I think you got teleportation,
You've got genetics stuff that's going on. You've got beams
of light breaking up the clouds and guiding people through
the desert and light. That's that's technical stuff. That's not
parting of the Red Sea. That's that's that's et technical stuff.

(01:30:11):
Particle beams, and you know it feels it feels technology base,
it feels like et.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Well, my next book, we'll talk about all that. And
one thing that I learned early on they many many
years ago studying with daughter Posoka Diana. Everybody listening to this,
find you a Bible and go in there, or go
to your cell phone and pull up a Bible Hub

(01:30:41):
or Bible Gateway and punching the word cloud. So what
she told me was when they translated the Bible from
Greek into to English, King James, she said, I was
one of five people to witness the original translation, and

(01:31:05):
there were two translations for the word cloud. So where
the Bible talks about this puffy white cloud coming over
and giving them shade, and then it rains later in
the day, that's the weather phenomenon. But when it starts
talking about clouds that are on fire and that are talking,

(01:31:26):
and that are feeding the manna in the morning and
giving them shade by the day and fire at night
and parting the red sea. And when Jesus was baptized
by John the Baptist, instead of a luminous cloud.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Do that painting. Okay, So you Gotjesus and John the
Baptist at the River Jordan, Right, you know the painting.
I'm talking about what is in the sky? What is
in the sky that's not a cloud, that's a flying
saucer man?

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Exactly exactly what it is. This is what Diana told me.
That the church changed that to seem like a weather phenomenon,
but that would be an angelic being or a represented
it says in It spoke that cloud appeared over them,
luminous cloud, glowing and spoke and said, this is my

(01:32:17):
son who I'm well pleased. So now you got talking clouds,
You've got a glowing clouds, you got clouds that feed
them food.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Laser beams coming out of the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
So what are we dealing with? Jimmy, I don't know.
But I called on God in a Ufo Kane, and
I still call on God and they still come. So
what it all means, I don't know. But I do
know there's a lot more out there than just that.
I'm sure there's got to be a variety of things

(01:32:53):
we can't imagine going on. And like you know, from
trolls to gnomes to little Peace pull the Bigfoot, the
walks around invisible around us, is so much that we
can't imagine, and this comes from NASA. Tim Teler told me,
he said, there are layers of stuff, but the angels

(01:33:14):
are real.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Don't forget about leprechauns and fairies, right, all that stuff
is real. Yeah? Yeah, Can we talk about abductions? Have
we ever? Wait a minute, let me ask you. Have
we ever talked about abductions? No? I don't think we have?
Have we? And we've talked about a lot. Man, We've

(01:33:40):
talked about a lot over the years, the abduction, the
abduction phenomenon. If we go back to some things aren't abduction.
It's more of a contact experience, like George van Tassel
at Giant Rock, and that was nineteen fifty. You have

(01:34:04):
the contact ease of the nineteen fifties, and you've got
Betty and Barney Hill in sixty one. You have situations
like Travis Walton in the seventies in Snowflake, Arizona. Whitley
Stream is certainly right there too as well, Betty Andreasen right,

(01:34:27):
the Andresen affair, another Pasca Goula. Right, these are abduction experiences.
Are they still happening? And if they are, is it
happening the same way what happened with the abduction experience.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Well, you know who knows a lot of people seem
to think they're being taken, but as far as the open,
the well known ones, they just don't seem to be
all that, you know, like the you just talked about

(01:35:08):
a span of fifty years and very few people in
that span and everybody knows them. But I imagine there
are hundreds people that are being taken in the sleep
or visited. I think they come down and tune you up,
like working on an automobile. We're just machines in a program. Basically,

(01:35:31):
if you start looking at fractals down to the smallest
level into the molecules on our DNA, there are little
tiny machines walking up and down your DNA strand doing
things that I didn't tell them to do, nor did you.
They're doing it on their own accord. They know what
to do, so something told them what their position was,

(01:35:54):
what the responsibility is, how to do it, and how
to do it perfectly. And our whole body is made
of that. Something made it, And I think we're just
spiritual beings and a machine that's going to return back
in an orb one day. Basically, a ball of containment vessel.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
What what is I often wonder about the abduction thing, Uh,
it seems I think. I think that it's still happening.
I think that the technique, the way that it's done,
the operation, if you will, has changed according to our technology.

(01:36:48):
I think that we have radar, we have the ability
to track, and we have sensors and everything else. That
bringing a large metallic craft down and abducting somebody is
harder to do today then it was just seventy five
years ago when radar was brand new, right, So now

(01:37:12):
the interdimensional aspect of getting here is something that is
harder to detect, and that would make a lot of sense.
So then the abduction experience is still happening, but it's
not happening the same way as in the past, and
that that's that's my take. I don't know, but the

(01:37:36):
phenomenon is real, but it has adapted well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
I think the whole UFO world is adapting to the
truth of this thing. Man. Basically, the UFO world is
not what it was. It has had to shift into
the knowledge we have of it now. The most this
thing is the most illusive thing on earth. It can
hide from you and never show itself and recently has

(01:38:05):
decided to start doing that, and we're study it more
and understand it some more. And but as far as
as abductions, that's a rare thing. It's more rare than
than we might think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
What do what do colors mean? You said earlier? Yeah,
I know, I know, I know, and so uh I
need those answers for myself. And I think about this
a lot, and uh so many different opinions out there.
I've seen a variety of things, but I don't necessarily

(01:38:45):
know what they mean. So let's start with orange. Let's
start with orange. You've sent me some videos with orange orbs.
What's what's orange mean to you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Well, let's let me say I addressed this and with scientists, right,
and let's just say one of those scientists. Let's just
say one of those scientists is one of the head
scientists on the International Space Station. Right, These are some

(01:39:17):
of the people. So they asked me that same question,
what are the colors? Men? But this is what I
told them. I was filming one while we were talking
in the forest next to me, and which when I
go intonight, I'm over downloaded these videos and send them
to these scientists and I'll send you a copy. And
they were asking me the color of it. And it

(01:39:38):
was only twenty or thirty feet from me, fifteen feet
in the trees, and it was red and blue. So
it cycled from red with the white in it. She's
shifting the blue red white blue this orb and it
was it was it's very close. And it seems that

(01:39:58):
when they're that close still be that color, or they'll
be red with yellow in it. But when they're at idle,
this is what I've noticed. When they're idling, setting still,
usually the red. That's why the one in the woods
was red shifting the blue, because it started moving through
the forest and when it shifted, it would stuck behind

(01:40:21):
a tree and that would not see it. So I've
filmed it three times doing that. But when it's setting still,
it's red. When it's when it's moving along at a
you know, a slow pace, it's orange. So it's not
it's not idling, it's moving. But when it's energized, it's

(01:40:44):
highly energized, it'll be bright white. It gets so bright
white it looks like as big as a house in
the sky. It just does how it introduce, but it
goes through all those colors. I film them all the time,
turning red and blue. And but the scientist ask me
tonight that about these colors and about the blue. I
hear the blue ones are bad. I'm like the lady comes,

(01:41:07):
she's in the blue, the bluish white orb every time
when I see her. I said, no, I've never had
anything negative around me, none of this stuff. It's always
all colors, from white, the red, to blue, the green.
I have green ones in my house, big as a softball,
hovering over my chair and just popped in the whole.

(01:41:29):
My wife tell you if you ask her, she witnessed
from ten feet away. But you know, I rambled enough.
But I don't think the colors has mattered to me anyhow.
I haven't seen any difference other than they shift through
all those colors.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Are the orbs. I'm not being dumb here. I'm not
being dumb, but I'm gonna play dumb. I want you
to talk to me like I'm five years old or
segad help me out, okay. Are the orbs the craft?
Or are the orbs both the spirit or the entity

(01:42:15):
and the craft at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
The orbs, from what I've noticed, Jimmy, are magical beings
that can be one or more inside of one of
these orbs. Oh okay, they come out of them and
the ORB will stay with that being at that point
when they come out, and I have video.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Of okay, so the orbs are the vessel, then.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
They're they're the being themselves. But what they can do,
and we witnessed this over December when the drones were
they set these drones up the muddy to water. Everybody
was saying, oh my god, we don't know if there
are drones. We're trying to poppy cot. They know who
they were. There were ours, and everybody was believing they

(01:43:05):
were all drones, well non other one they were. But
suddenly we saw orbs, Mimican drones. They just tried to
shoot them down. They couldn't shoot them down. They kept trying.
We saw video of them trying to shoot them down,
and all of a sudden, the orb would just start
doing this and pop out a stenching of a wing

(01:43:29):
and then another one and then fly away looking like
a drone. And I've seen them do it to airplanes.
I've seen them do it to helicopters. We know we
know from history through research that in the sixteen hundred
seventeen hundreds, they were flying homes, houses, two story houses glowing.
They were flying sell boats like the Mayflower where the

(01:43:52):
cells going flying along in the sky. What's his name?
Kenneth Arnold says, I saw these shiny, little criscient things.
They looked like batwings. But when he said it looked
like a saucerer skipping on the water, the news theys
come out and said, oh, he saw flying saucers. Can
you believe this crazy guy? Well, what happens the next

(01:44:13):
forty years? Everybody sees flying saucers until somebody said I
saw a triangle. Then for the next eight or ten years,
everybody sees triangle. Well, then their true nature came in
two thousand and six or seven. I reported these spalls
of light and I called them orbs. And then what

(01:44:35):
happened next year in eight Stevenville, Texas there were orbs there,
and then these craft come out of the orbs. So
who knows what we're dealing with, but they can sure
mimic anything from a boat to a plane to something
a mile across, like in Phoenix. We're dealing with something

(01:44:59):
that is conscience spaced and can make itself look like
it wants to anything from a bug, a mantis, to
you know, being of light, to whatever has that ability.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
I was with Steve Marillo, and you know Steve, Steve's
great and we were with a group of people. I've
never told you this. I told the story many times,
but you and I have never talked about it. And
we were up at Mount Adams. We were fourteen miles
away from Mount Adams. Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I was

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up there with a group of people, bunch of fader
nots right, We're having a Fade to Black conference. So
we had a bunch of people up there anyway, a
few hundred, but we were out. It was about three
o'clock in the afternoon, and I've got a pair of
binoculars on this tripod, on this picnic table, and I'm

(01:45:58):
looking at birds, just enjoying the afternoon. Beautiful crystal clear
blue sky and beautiful, beautiful. And as I'm looking at
these birds with this ginormous pair of binoculars, like this
long and out from behind the mountain, Chris, this huge

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Mount Adams is fourteen miles away, and this object, this
craft came out from behind the peak of the mountain
comes across, and it was huge, and it was like
a tall cylinder like I've called it a beer can,
probably four hundred feet tall, couple of hundred feet wide,

(01:46:45):
and it's a it's let me switch cameras. It's spinning
like this and it's going across the sky and it's
black with little chrome rim on the bottom and top. Huge,
and I just what. And it surprised me. You know,

(01:47:06):
when you least expected, right when you least expected. But
this was the crazy part. I thought Chris that we
were going to watch this because it was moving so
slow and it was so big, and there was like
thirty of us out there, that we were going to
see this for an hour, you know, moving across the
sky that slow. And the whole sighting lasted about fifteen seconds.

(01:47:31):
And then yeah, and then what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Did anybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Everybody saw it? Everybody saw it. And so anyway, as
I go back onto the binoculars, this is back to
your point. Steve, who's sitting next to me, says, it disappeared. Man,
it phased out. I was like what And I look

(01:47:57):
back and it's gone. It's gone. And it was sitting
in the middle of the blue sky moving across, you know,
by itself, this giant It was huge when I say,
four hundred feet tall. What I was looking at was
fourteen miles away. In the binoculars, it was like this

(01:48:19):
big I could see everything, and I just looked at
it and remembered it. I scanned it from top to
bout it's perfectly and focused, the sun shining on it,
and I really got a good look at it. And then,
like I said, Steve, goes, it phased out and I
looked and it was gone gone.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I wanted you to say it. I wanted all, Yeah,
that's consciousness, that's how it's you know, this is something
greater than just a visitor from another world. This is
something that come up from there because it knew you
were there and knew you were looking through them glasses,

(01:49:03):
and it knew you were going to yell it out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
Hey, look, I am convinced of that today, even though
what you just said sounds like crazy talk, right, true,
But I'm looking in these binoculars at the peak of
this mountain, what and it just pops out of the
mountain like that from behind the mis Uh. That was

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that was intentional?

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Yeah, it was. It did it, and it knew it
before it came out. It knew it was going to
show itself to you because you're part of the team.
You're part of the disclosure team, and that's what this
is about. These things are part of that. I think
that you ask about these abductees, I think that they've

(01:49:50):
done that because there's there's some writing in the Book
of Enoch about this where they prophesize that in the future,
before the final awakening, that there'll be people here to
help help everybody understand it. And that may be exactly
what's happening with all this, that consciousness the universe is awakening.

(01:50:17):
In fact, I heard this crazy conspiracy this week. You know,
you hear all kinds of stuff. I heard this Wisconsin.
They were talking about chemtrails. Why are these friends guy
and everybody sees it out there, why they're doing it?
And this was coming from a guy and that's a PhD. Right.

(01:50:38):
He was saying that they believed that the who knows
that the universe, the sun is sending out signals that
are awakening the public faster, and that they're trying to
stop that. But you know, I don't know if that's true.
I think it's more about climate change, trying to change

(01:51:00):
the climate. But it's funny you hear all this kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
You know two, Well, what did I tell you this weekend?
You can't jump in the deep end of the pool, right,
you can't do it. I when it comes to h conspiracies,
I love them. I love them. I'd like to read

(01:51:27):
about them. I'll do the rabbit hole thing. I'll go
back and confirm or you know, see if I can
get some factual stuff on that. And I enjoy it.
I enjoy the research. I like looking into it. What
the problem is is when you find out that one
of you know something is real, right, That's that's the

(01:51:49):
crazy part.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
I think we're all all everybody in the UFO world
looks into all this conspiratble stuff and there's a lot
of it out there that and it makes you when
they hide stuff that makes you want to look and see.
As far as the Sun's sent in the signal, I
don't know that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
But you know, I still think that there is something
to Sun's stars being portals and energy points. And I'm
kind of okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
I'll tell you a little research. I studied that came
out of Massa. I've got several papers that I have
my hands on. One of them was about the sun
at the angle it shines on the earth. It casts
a green spectrum of light, which is the center of

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the color spectrum, which is the borealice and all that right,
the green, the green trees and which if you understand it,
it's like blue with the absence of yellow, which the
trees show that yellow in the fall when it all
dies back.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, you were going with the sun
beaming information to us.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, there you go. The green light. They
say that the way the green light shines on the
earth at a certain spectrum, and this is in this
paper that the hemoglobin and a person and the chlorophyll

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in a plant, it's the same basic chemical called ADT,
which when the sun shines on it, it starts that
energy creating a life process. So all information to all
living things, like those little things in our body that
are walking down your and a strand carrying a load

(01:54:02):
and it stops something. Wow, it's the sun telling it
that it's the Sun that's encoding all life's information into
every living thing. So how far is that away from
being God, right is giving out all that information.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
It's the same thing. It's the same thing, right, Yeah,
it's not far away from it. It's the same thing.
The Chris I mean, it's such uh. I talked about
this on stage. You were there, you were sitting sitting
in front of me. I will make that argument to

(01:54:44):
any materialist, physicists, or scientist or biologists or the anthropologist
that insists on all of this just being coincidence and luck,
that's that's you're a religious man. I'm just going to
say this right now, that's a bunch of bullshit. It's bullshit.

(01:55:04):
It's bullshit, and there is no way the odds of
DNA being a chemical accident.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Is the odds.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
How many zeros do you need to put on that
number to make that luck? No, No, there's something else
intelligence behind that. I don't know what it is. I
don't but it's not luck.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Oh, it's not. If you want to delve into that.
One of the smartest guys in the world, there's a
professor at Rice University. His name is Zutner James tour
And when I say he's one of the smartest, he
is because he has He's rated in the top forty
smartest people on the planet. He has like six hundred

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or seven hundred papers and hundreds of published patterns. And
guy's a genius. But he's an organic chemist and he
says it, and he's challenged this question about the evolutionists,
right they're saying everything comes from a mud puddle, and
he's He's like, there's no earthly way that those chemicals

(01:56:21):
can combined outside of the you know, some perfect environment.
He says. The more we learn, the less we know
that it's not possible that something had to have created
it all wrote the program, and so we need to
get past that is it real or not? We need

(01:56:43):
to find out what's behind that door. Let's let's quit
debating is the door there? Let's go behind that door.
And that's where we are right now with disclosure we
were fixing to push past is the door there?

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
So thank you another great conversation tonight, Chris. Thank you
for taking the time you and the crickets get my
best to Vonn in the family. Are you bringing out
the crew in a couple of weeks to contact.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Yes, in fact, anybody wants to come. Chris Junior's coming
and he's never been to one of these things. The
only one that's not coming as our second oldest boy, Jeremy.
He's a scientist, he can't get off. But Chris Jenner
will be there. Ryan and Jenny and Emily and myself
and Yvonne. So come join us and I'll look forward

(01:57:37):
to that. You and I hang out on the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Man, it's you, remember you are hailed. Yeah, just right there,
right just bam.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Get out of California.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Yeah yeah, I'll drop, I'll drop. I'll do the whole thing.
I'll do the whole thing. Chris, I love you, man,
you know that. And and you and the family. Let's
continue everything where we left off up there in Wisconsin.
It was just a tremendous weekend and we just get
to just turn right around and do it again right

(01:58:12):
here in my hometown of Los Angeles and Palm Springs.
It's going to be great. Everybody contacting the desert. The
links are below UFO God, UFO of God. The links
are below for that too as well. If you haven't
got the book already, get it, bring it with you
and I'll get Chris to sign it for you out

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there in Palm Springs. All right, Chris, my best Okay,
thank you so much, my friend. I'll talk to you, Chris.
I love you back. Chris. You know that I'll see
you in a couple of weeks. Safe travels out here,
all right, I'll talk to you, Chris fled So everybody,
I am your host, Jimmy Church. That was perfect. That

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was perfect. Chris is the best. And yes, he's going
to be right here in Palm Springs, California. Contact in
the Desert in a couple of weeks at the end
of the month and heading into end of May into June,
I think May twenty nine through June second, June third
right here and the links for Contact in the Desert

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