FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Lori Spagna

Tonight, author and researcher Lori Spagna joins us to talk about Raising Our Vibration!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
This Hope radio for the Nazis headline of this July eighth,
nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
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air with.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
The game is really changed the game game.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Would vengish if we were.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Facing an Aien threat from outside this world. This is
Day to Black.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, well, well, good evening, Fade to Black.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Today is Monday, May nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Let's do this, man.
I am banging my crystals on the table. Why am
I banging?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Lorie Spawna is on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's why I I'm banging crystals over here. Another week
about to kick off right here on Fade to Black,
and another amazing week tonight. Of course, Laurie is with us.
We're gonna be talking about raising your vibration. I'm doing
that right now with my crystals and of course my
guitar pick tomorrow night. Dana Luis is with us, and

(01:52):
I've titled the show this is gonna sound weird. That's
the name of her book. Yes, Wednesday night, Thomas Jane,
the actor is back with us. His book, A Humans
Guide to Visiting Aliens is what we're going to be
talking about. And then Thursday night it's Jason Quit. He's
got a new book out and it's called Astral Experiences.

(02:13):
So I guess it's book week here on Fade to Black.
I haven't done that in quite a while. Yeah, I
love it when we kick off a brand new week
here on the show. What was I going to say? Oh, oh, oh, okay,
let's just let's get house cleaning out of the way.
I've got three major events coming up. I've got Contact

(02:34):
in the Desert in a couple of weeks May twenty
ninth through June second, right here in Palm Springs, California.
Right after that, I go south to South America with
Brian Forster for the INCA Celebration of the Sun in Peru.
This tour is sold out. We have a second tour
coming up in November. Links are below hidden INCA tours.
Then I come back from that for the SI Games

(02:58):
August first through the third, twenty twenty five in Charlottesville.
The Gene Yeah, yeah, Charlottesville, Vigene.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, the Psychic Olympics.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah. Man, I'm a game show host. You gotta love that,
all right.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So that's coming up in August, August first through the third.
A couple of things. If you look below in the description,
you will see a link for the Monty Python Tour
that I am hosting next year in Scotland. This is
gonna be great. Starting tomorrow, everything will be released on

(03:42):
social media. But there's your sneak peek right there. You
can click on that link, head over look at the
entire tour, everything that we have got planned. This is
a true five star event. It's gonna sell out immediately.
Get signed up right now. The links are below. Once
this hits social media tomorrow, it's probably going to sell out, but.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Or close to it. So if you would like to go.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
To Scotland Monty Python, We've got so many things, so
go and just look at click on the website and
go through and check out this tour.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
That is going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
And next thing, before I bring Lauri in, my daughter
comes over, Nicole. She comes over on Saturday and I
bought her a few that I got her an iPad
you know, and so she came over to pick that up.
We went out to dinner. I went over to the
Raven's Nest and had a great time over there. So
we're sitting at the Raven's Nest and the family that

(04:42):
owns the place, Cat and her brother and sister Lenny,
and Amelia's the chef.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
She's absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
So they're all coming by the table, sitting down and
talking and stuff, and Nicole being Nicole, She's just wonderful.
So anyway, this conversation swings her round two my face. Yeah, yeah,
and you know it's it's it's lady talk. It's woman talking,
you know, cleansers and moisturizers and things, and you know what,

(05:12):
Dave and Nichole's.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Like, Dad, we've got to fix your face.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I was like, what's wrong with what's wrong with? What's
wrong with my face? Well, you need to do this.
I said, what I got to do?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
What?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Every night?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
And I turned to Cat, I go, you do that
every single She goes, I do it every night? You
do this and then this, and yes, every single night.
I said, all right, So I hand my daughter my phone.
I said, order me what I need. I'll take your
advice and she did. And now this hard as Harley
writing leather wearing heavy metal listening dude has.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Got facial products.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And I did it Saturday, I did last night, I
did it this morning.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I gotta say, feels pretty good.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Doesn't look any different, but feels good, all right. So
I've come clean with everybody tonight, Lori Spawnie is on
with us and call the show raiser vibration, and she
raises my vibration every time I'm around her.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
She knows that, and I love you know what.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I I'm gonna say this now before I bring her in.
One of the coolest things I can do is well,
try to make Laurie blush. And I do it. I
do it every time we're in public. I do it
because she's special and she makes me feel great and
everybody around her just gets lifted up. And I make

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her very aware of that. She's absolutely amazing and she glows.
She's one of my favorite people. So I'm not going
to make her blush tonight, because hopefully she's blushing right now.
Before I bring her in, we're gonna be talking about
raising your vibration. I've got a bunch of links and
gifts and special things that Laurie is gifting our audience.

(07:14):
Those are up in the chat, and all of you
moderators out there copy those links and repost them again
throughout the show.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
We're going to talk about clearing karmic blocks.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah. Uh, your intuition, We're going to do that, your
higher self, your purpose right, manifestation one of my favorite
things to do, and how to become your best person.
She's got books, she's an author. Why because it's book
week here on Fade to Black. Her links are below

(07:47):
on our website and throughout social media. I would like
to welcome back to fad to Black and one on
Lawyer Lorie's spawning Laurie, did you blush? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Tell me. I'm so grateful to be here and happy
to be with you and Jimy, I love you so much.
I'm so I just love being around you. There's so much.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
No, You're fun.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You bring me.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
No, you bring the joy out of me. You bring
the joy out.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I remember one year and I was pushing it with
you for like four days and uh, and you were like, Jimmy,
are you being serious?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Because that I am being you? Remember that?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I always feel like that. I always wonder because
I just think you, I think you're describing yourself. You
light everybody up. I just think you're so full of
joy yourself. And by the way, in namology, jay is
the letter of joy.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So yes, you carry the frequency of joy?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Ring, Because you know I keep telling you, you keep
saying we're gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. Man,
I pushed it right to the limit a couple of times,
didn't I. But what was funny is getting turned down.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
That was the other thing.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're like out, Jimmy. Sorry, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
No, you turned me down?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh did I really?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, didn't no not. Now you're just now you're just
saying stuff. But it's really true. I want everybody to
know that I just love hanging out with Lori so much.
And I remember this is probably it was probably eight
years ago, back when we very very first met and
you and I just had a really cool conversation. It

(09:27):
was in public and I turned to you, I looked
right in your eyes. I said, you're on the next show,
you know, And and and that's that's it. I want
what we are doing right now, this this convers I
want this to be the show and you always bring it,
so thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Let's do it again tonight.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And listen. I kind of want to start here if
I can. And it's not a dark question, but it
kind of it is. I mean, it's a kind of
a weird place to start. What the heck is wrong
with our world? I mean, what is going on right now?
Everybody doesn't matter your your your thing, your your sex,

(10:16):
your background, your religious beliefs, your political that none of
that matters who you are, you know, none of that matter.
Everybody's talking about the same thing. Man, who right, that's
the conversation. Yeah, yeah, what's going on.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
What's really going on is humanity is being liberated. Humanity
is being liberated. It's just that we it's almost like
when you're liberated and you've been living under like shackles
for an entire lifetime, you don't necessarily know what to
do with your freedom or how to use it. So
when I say liberated, what it's happening in multi in

(10:56):
multiple multiple ways. On the one level, on the physical level,
we're being liberated from an old paradigm, or we could say,
and it's hard to see it right yet, but you
can tell things are collapsing from that old paradigm of
you know, false false authorities, fake false phony authorities, and

(11:20):
a patriarchal system. Right, and it's not even about it's
just the system of hierarchy and fear based dominance, right, control, domination, manipulation.
So on the physical level, we're being liberated, and so
in a way, the old systems are collapsing and at
the same time new systems are being created. But on

(11:43):
a spiritual or energetic level, we're being liberated from you
know what you call the third paradigm, third dimension or
third paradigm, and what that really is is the game
of unconsciousness. So what that really means is that we're
being liberated and elevated into a new bandwidth of consciousness
where we're going to become active, conscious co creators in

(12:04):
our reality. Well, that means we have to up level.
We have to up level how we do life.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
We've when I say we've, I'm just talking about Earth
in general. We've always talked about this. I mean, this
goes back thousands of years and it was never achieved.
But it's what how many establishments and governments and hierarchies
and monarchies and have been crushed overthrown, falling apart, and

(12:35):
it just seemed how many revolutions have there been? Right,
and that, Okay, here we go, and then it's just
right back to where we started again. But this time
around it does seem a little bit different, is it?
Because evolution is inevitable, We're just at that stage.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, you could say that. I mean what I do is,
the work that I do is all about bringing in
consciousness from the non physical that hasn't been here before.
So what I'm about to share is from that perspective.
It's that humanity is elevating out of what we call
a third dimensional paradigm where we've been operating in separation,
and so that requires us to become conscious co creators

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and to begin recognizing our role in the creation process.
So when you talk about all of the monarcheries and
dynasties and revolutions that have fallen come fallen, all of that,
this is something entirely new. It's that now humans are
realigning with there are co creative abilities to consciously understand

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how reality actually is created through our consciousness, in other words,
through our mental and emotional playing, through our energetic field,
through our spiritual energy and consciousness, karmic patterns, etc. And
so as we're elevating and starting to realize and recognize
our roles and how we're playing that there's an agenda

(14:03):
going on. Right, There's a lot of agendas, but the
agenda of the light is the agenda. You could call
it God's plan for lighted creation. That's what I call it,
but if you don't like seeing it that way, it's
the plan for humanity's evolution. So what that means is
that as we're elevating, there's an agenda for humans to
become more conscious co creators and participants, co creators and

(14:28):
co participants with the divine that comes that's really entering
into this reality in a more conscious way in and
through us. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It does? It does?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
And it also this time it's different.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yes, it's all new.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, this time is different. It seems more tangible
than ever before.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Like you can just go you know what I mean?
It kind of feels like that if you go back
and look at.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Ancient cultures like South America, Central America, and certainly Egypt,
even Greece, if you want to pull that in where
all of this was discussed and practiced and then they
just kind of let it go. They were in touch
with their spiritual selves, you know. And it's really strange

(15:24):
it's taken this, you know, almost five thousand years to
circle back around and get this going once again.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah. Well, the thing is is, what's really interesting is
this paradigm that's coming to a completion. It's even beyond
what was known then, because even the great prophecies aren't
all coming true. For example, one of the great prophecies
was that Pope Francis would be the last pope, and
we see that that's not happening. Why because the new

(15:51):
paradigm is not did not allow for the old to
come into the present, into the future, in other words,
every what's so different now is that we are needing,
being required in a sense, to leave everything from our
past in terms of linear time behind. That means all
of our wounding patterns, all of our traumas, all of

(16:14):
the ways that we've operated that actually don't serve our
betterment or that are to our harm or detriment. And
that requires us to become much more conscious because we
have to start recognizing what are the patterns that I've
played out in the past, or that I've somehow participated
in that just haven't gotten me really anywhere. But here,

(16:36):
in other words, the things that are no longer serving
my most benevolent best any of ours. So that the
trajectory that we're all beginning to align ourselves with consciously
and even unconsciously ultimately is that which is for our
most benevolent best and always ideally with harm to none.
We might not fully realize that yet, but that is

(16:57):
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That is all that's strong.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, that's the agenda for the future of humanity.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now. I love the journey, all right, and we're all
on a journey. I talk about it every day, Laurie.
We're all on a journey. And I didn't want to
mention this, but and I don't want this to be
a part of the conversation. Okay, I'm going to say
this one time. I won't say it on the Future Show.

(17:26):
My dad died on Saturday, Okay, Saturday, and no, it
was just one of those things where it's the journey.
So I had a little prep going into this. No,
I'm sorry he died on Friday. I told my daughter

(17:48):
on Saturday. He died on Friday and had a little
prep going eighty eight. All right, He didn't get in
a car accident, right, He just got old and died. Okay,
So there's that part. But anyway, I my way of
dealing with it is my way of dealing with it,

(18:08):
and I kind of dealt with it years ago when
he was eighty two, eighty three, eighty four, right, okay,
all right, So but I and I'm giving this advice
to the audience. So Friday, as I thought about this, man,
your dad.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Died this morning, and.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is that it's all the journey before you start unpacking
daddy issues or child crisis or any of that, all
of that just brings you to where you are. That's
all what you know. You want to run around with
your dick in the dirt and right, No, that's that's

(18:52):
that doesn't do anything. It's all a part of the journey.
And that's what I want to impart on everybody else. So, Laurie,
I'm going to ask you, how do we navigate this
friggin road?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Man?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
We know the journey is there and the road is
in front of us, how do we start to realize
and navigate does.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It can I ask you, does it feel more? Does
it feel helpful to you to know that that there
is no there's a physical death, but the consciousness that
is your father continues to live on. Does that is
that something you're aligned with? Does that make sense for you?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
And I realized that a long time ago, again on
my own journey, and when my mom passed, putting my
dad aside, I realized that, you know, that just happened.
But when my mom passed, I talked to her that

(19:56):
day and I was flying out the next morning. He
was in Florida. I was out here in California and
I'm talking to I'm like, Mom, hang on, just hang on.
She kept they kept resuscitating her, right, and she's telling
me on the phone, let me go, right, just let
me go go.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, And I said, Mom, just just wait. I'll be there,
you know, be there tomorrow morning. Just just hang on
talking to the doctors. And doctors are like, man, we've
done this like twenty times, you know, And I said,
just just well, anyway, when she passed, I wanted all

(20:40):
children have this right, you know what that God given
right is. Damn it. Your mom comes to see you
at the foot of your bed, right right, right right.
I didn't get that. I was pretty upset. Yeah. Yeah,
And people have said to me, and I know, I'm
gonna answer your question as directly as possible. I know

(21:04):
she's out there continuing her journey. I can tell you this.
She was done with this version. She was done. She's
out partying with the Golden Girls, out there doing whatever
she's doing.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
But the Earth version, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Her thing here, she was worn out. She was a trooper.
She's my hero, and but I don't think she's like,
you know, what's son Jimmy is like this.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Late?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, so I didn't get that. I know that
that's where they are and you know they're continuing, but
I was deprived the right of that, not the.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Right How do you know it didn't happen and you
just didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Everybody says that to me, and I get that, and
that that's totally possible, totally. But as far as the vivid,
like you know, Laurie checked this out. My mom came
to me in my room last night. No, no, not that,
not that.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, here's the thing. It's, first of all, it's not
too late for you to ask what I can say
especially about your dad. Is that and even this out
before I even say that, let me say this that
I channel a group called the Collective, right, these are
thousands of non physical some interstellar beings, but galactic beings, angelics,
ascended masters, who comes as what who's needed at the time,

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sometimes animal candom members. And what they all say is
that there are two things that are never an accident
in life. One is the moment of birth, and the
other is the moment of death. And what they also
say is that at the moment of death, it's because
the soul has chosen and said, essentially, I have completed

(22:53):
everything I came here to do in this physical life,
in this physical experience. However, the essence, of course, the
essence of who they are as consciousness continues, right. But
the energy that is essentially non physical energy that was

(23:14):
their body. So that's like the substance of their of
their energetic body that remains in the physical and usually
is passed on to the closest members of their of
their soul family, which is very often their children, their spouses,
or their siblings or partners. Of course, so the essence

(23:36):
of your dad, that energy is available life force that
in a sense he will gift to you since you're
his son, and it's up to you to claim it.
In a sense. I know this is maybe sounds out there,
but it's like there, it's one of the gifts they
leave behind.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Because they can want it.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, if you don't want it, that's you don't have
to take.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
It to LORI I apologize wants a strong way to
put it.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
What if you don't need it?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Right, But it's not that you don't need it, because
it's it's pure energy. It's not their personality self, it's
the it's the crystalline structure. Because our bodies are made
up of more than just physical right, What we are
made up of like if you I'm sure maybe have
heard this the Russian tea doll, right is basically we're

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like an orb energetically and the orb of the substance
of who we are is larger than the size of
a house, a two story house, larger than fifty five
feet in diameter, and like a Russian tea doll, every
one of the orb levels around us is an energetic
field of energy that is energy, life force, life force,

(24:54):
and when the person departs, they leave that life force
here there's no none of the it's none of the
crap of their personality self or what people call their
egoic structure, their egoic identity. It's the life force. So
when you say you don't need it, well you don't.
You don't, you have your own. But it's a gift
because it's it's energy, it's life force, and it allows

(25:18):
you whoever, whoever's willing to receive it. And most people
we don't know that we do it. But the way
that we receive it is simply by loving them and
being grateful for them and recognizing their role in our lives.
And even if there's grief associated with their departure, of
course there's grief and there's loss, that's still the remembrance

(25:39):
of our love for them. So that's part of how
we receive that. If we don't want it, you won't.
You won't you just don't you just if you cut
yourself off, or you say I'm not interested, or I
don't want it, or I don't want to think about them,
or I don't want to know. You know, different people
handle this stuff differently, but it's available to you if
you so choose, And ultimately it's really just life force.

(26:01):
That's all it is. It's not it's what was allowing
the remainder of or his life to be embodied and
what's left behind. Right, Yeah, it's all out there, but
it's real.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's oh, it's one hundred percent real.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's one hundred percent real people, people, Grief is is
a funky, funky thing that is one of the strangest,
most powerful emotions that you can go through. And I
would say, and seriously, I'm not trying to offend anybody,

(26:40):
but the grief of losing a pet is I think
is harsher to most people than a family member, you
know what.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know what I mean, when you feel like you
lost that love. It doesn't matter. It's hard, it's whoever
the love is. But you know what, here's the thing.
Grief is energy. This is one of the parts of
humanity's evolution. This is linked to like what's going on
on planet Earth is is that everything is energy. So grief,

(27:16):
even though it's an emotion, it's in the emotional body.
It's one of those layers of our of our multi
dimensional field, of one of those fields. So the emotional body,
which can store up grief or can attract grief or
attached to the energy of grief. In the case of
loss that energy, if that energy is cleared from someone's field,

(27:39):
what's left love and consciousness, because that's really what there is.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Love is an energy.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's it. So, because the truth is is that if
every energy, if everything's energy, which it is, grief is
an energy. So grief is not an indication of how
much somebody loved, It's an indication of grief and loss.
When the energy of grief is lifted and removed, which
it can be with an energy work or with consciousness,

(28:07):
then what remains is the love for the being, whether
it was a human or an animal. And this is
what I'm saying as I link it to the evolution
on Earth. We're starting to recognize that everything is energy.
And just because we might feel sadness or depression or
sorrow or grief or loneliness or isolation, any of those

(28:31):
energetic emotions, because emotions are energy that we've felt in
we can call that in that old paradigm, because those
are the energies of separation, right, feeling lonely, isolated, sad, shameful, grief,
you know, depression, all those things, those energies can be
cleared from our field. When they're cleared, we are liberated

(28:53):
of that density. What replaces it, what replaces that energy
more the truth of who we are, which is love,
divine love, divine peace, divine inspiration, divine optimism, divine grace.
Those are more of the energies of the truth of
who we are. And this is how we part of

(29:14):
how we raise our vibration. We say, I am not
this grief, I am not this depression, I am not anger.
Those are just energies.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
It sounds good, but man, it's hard to work through,
isn't it. I mean, that's you, you are right, But man,
I'm hard work.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Laurie.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
When somebody and the conversation happens.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
All too often, you'll be with some and when.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
The talk of somebody will come up and say, oh man,
I've got to take my cat to the vet.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
You know this is going on.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And then the person to your right's going to go, yeah,
I just lost, you know, my dog of fifteen years.
And then somebody to your left says yeah, and the
next sea and I'm like, you know what, I I
can't have this conversation. I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
It just rips me.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Apart.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Ah, that's only because you're resonating. And I'm not suggesting
I'm not suggesting that. I mean I've lost animals too,
and I mean it's painful if you lose someone love,
a parent or an animal or anyone. So I'm not
denying that that's real. What I am saying is is
that that's part of this old paradigm where we allowed energies, emotions, thoughts, beliefs,

(30:34):
belief systems, opinions, judgments, and the external world overall to control, dominate,
and manipulate us, even especially external authorities. So as we
start to recognize any particular energy such as grief or
sadness or any of these anger, as we start to

(30:54):
recognize this is energy and even though it feels so encompassing,
it is not the truth of who I am. I
am greater than this energy, and then we start we
can start to learn tools for using it. For example,
let's take the energy of anxiety. Anxiety or you know,
anything that's in that kind of field, like anxiety or fear,

(31:18):
that's like a fear based energy. Most people, the way
they deal with it is they try to repress and
suppress it, right, or maybe they go to a doctor
who might give them some kind of pharmaceutical drug to
not feel it. But we know those are kind of
band aids, right, But it's such a simple tool to
recognize it's just energy, and if it takes over the

(31:39):
body for a few moments and the person is like,
I am the love that this grief or this fear
or this anxiety is looking for, and I'm going to
be that love. Learning recognizing that it's energy, and that
one can take that energy in to replace the old
energy and allow that old energy to move. It really
is something that we can learn to do. That's my point.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, we can't tell neet that.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
So that it doesn't have to take us over anymore,
So that anxiety, fear, and all those you know, depression,
all of those energies don't have to take us down anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Do you think.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Do you think that with the.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Invention of worldwide real time knowledge, news, events, live streaming
every where, everything now is worldwide, where just a few
decades ago it was three channels on TV and things
were delayed. And then even before that the knowledge of

(32:47):
the world was just localized. Right, But now today I
have to tell you empathy and emotions are always in
check with me. When I'm reading about you Crane or
Gaza and stuff like that. That is real time that
Pakistan India thing. Man, I was just freaking out, And

(33:10):
that's because we now have knowledge of the world in
real time and emotionally we're involved with that. So the
emotions that you have with a pet, you can have
that same feeling. For I can't imagine being a family,
being a dad with kids in Gaza or Ukraine, right

(33:34):
or how I.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Can't, But this is what you're you're calling forward a
higher virtue, which is divine compassion. Right, That's real virtue.
That's that's a quality that allows us to care about
our fellow humans, our brothers and sisters on earth, and
to bring because you're using a different frequency divine compassion,

(33:58):
caring about another human being or about the earth, or
about what's going on. That's very different from suffering. Okay,
so so suffering if you're going to suffer with them
or for them, But if you're truly in the energy
of divine compassion that you just truly care and you

(34:20):
desire to, in some way, shape or form, if it's possible,
make some contribution to support or assist the alleviation of
the suffering. That is a divine virtue to care.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
That's right, that's right, that's right, And that's part of
raising your vibration for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Sure, because the energy of divine compassion part of one
of the things that I was told years ago when
some of these events started happening where we were seeing
things globally and you know, like I remember, like our
last conversation was the night before COVID hit, like it
had just hit. That was our conversation the last time
I was on your show. And this is the thing

(35:01):
I was told, is that a lot of these events
are happening to help humans awaken more of our divine
compassion because that's the frequency. There are two frequencies that
begin to elevate people out of density. One is divine
gratitude and the other is divine compassion. They are also
the frequencies that open the heart portal. Right, the heart

(35:23):
portal is nothing, It's just our hearts are magnetic. We
know that there's brain matter in the heart, right, there's
plenty of research on that now, Institute of Heart Math
of course, studying and documenting and that when we start
to awaken that heart, brain the way that part of
how it gets awakened is through really compassionately caring and

(35:44):
also feeling the gratitude for life and for living. So
that opens up and activates more of the brain matter
in our heart, the heart brain that's going to help
us elevate and make it through these challenging times that
we're going through. Part of the evolution because again, as
we raise our frequency, we are able to not only

(36:06):
thrive better in these difficult times, but also contribute in
the world in a new way, because a new paradigm
involves really involves a lot more. You know, how may
I contribute? You know, because the fastest road to joy,
by the way, since you're Jay Joy, is through service
and contribution, not not like service to your detriment, but

(36:28):
joyful contribution. And isn't that what you're doing on Faded Black?
Isn't that like? Aren't you so that you?

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
And you know what, damn it? You know, part of
my mission is to make people laugh.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yes, you do that, oh man?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You know, because I love laughing, you know, I just
I get if I want to change my vibration, right,
I watched something funny, I get, I read something funny,
I listen to something funny and that changes my vibration immediately.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
And do you know what else you do all the
time that raises your vibrations that music?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. So I uh uh, Okay.
When I first started going to conferences, and you've been
doing this for a while, so it's okay to laugh
at what I'm about to say.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
But it's really true.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Conferences until I arrived, took themselves too seriously.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I mean, stoic. Just up there, Okay, we're going to
elevate to five D. Dude, slow down, slow down. My
near death experience, let me take you through, and they
walked you through night. It was almost fear based, you know,
and people taking their abductions and sightings all serious, sere sir.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And you know what.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
We need to change. We need to lighten this up.
All of that is great, and I'm into all of that, yes,
but damn it, it's okay to laugh a little bit
too and loosen this thing up.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
And so.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Having people come up to me now over the last
five ten years going you know what, Church, thank you man.
You made that whole room laugh today. And it wasn't
done with intention. It's that I'm not wearing a mask,
right right, I'm so they're.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Just doing it very authentic guy, you are, Yeah, you're
living very authentically. Yeah, that's part of this too. It
really is about us rediscovering and reclaiming our joy for
life are our inner joy, because that is that is
a divine virtue, joy, divine joy. Our ability to play
innocent play, our abilities to live without fear, our abilities

(39:08):
to share and play joyfully and to contribute in the world.
And you know, laughter and music are always that we
do that. And getting in touch with nature, being in
you know, outside and enjoying nature. All of those are
things that we that we have forgotten to do in
a sense in a world where basically the way we've

(39:29):
been living was you know this kind of like I
gotta survive, I gotta survive, I gotta survive, I gotta
you know, put food on the table. I gotta pay
the bills. And that took us out of that. So
part of why we're seeing so many of these changes
is that it's a reclaiming of our right to just recognize, like,
if we're not happy, none of it's worth it. If

(39:49):
we're not enjoying life, and not in a way that's
harmful to us or anyone else, but in a way
that's positively uplifting to us. So yeah, if it's a
music that you love, if it's laughter, if it's you know,
innocent play, whatever it is, it's about reclaiming that and
then through like following our passion and our joy. That's

(40:10):
where we get to birth from within those parts of
us that have something new and unique to offer, that's
unique and appropriate for us as individuals to bring forward.
That's powerful.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm gonna throw a metaphor at you, and I want
you to tell me how to fix it. I often
equate life and people that complain too much that they
are jumping into a pool and trying to walk. You know,

(40:47):
when you're trying to walk in water, right and it's hard, right,
that's life. And then you jump out of the pool
and it's like, oh I can walk okay, all right, Well,
what you need to remove what's holding you back? That
resistance and it's hard to do. You have luggage, You've

(41:11):
got one hundred pound suitcases samsonite luggage right hanging off
of you that you're pulling. Cut that shit right right,
drop the luggage off. But how do we do that?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Well, first of all, I just want to say one
thing that's lighting up and we can is that you
got to understand because you mentioned the thing about complaining,
there is there's love of cause and effect in this reality.
At a certain frequency, love cause and effect goes away.
But in the reality that we live in cause and effect.
So what is the effect of complaining? If one complains

(41:49):
or if one is miserable or unhappy or creating some
form of suffering for themselves or others, The effect of
that is that you're going to experience more of it,
So you kind of have This is part of the
consciousness raising is that you have to start saying, what
is the benefit of this thought or this word or

(42:10):
these words or this sentence, this complaining, this emotion. Is
this really benefiting me? Is it really serving me? Because
the law of cause and effect, combined with the other
universal laws, you're just going to get more of that.
The other answer is like, really what you want? Is
it really serving you? Is is that the effect you
want to create? But when you ask, you asked before, like, well,

(42:34):
how do we lift that up? How do we get
rid of that stuff Number one as an energy worker,
like as we start learning how to use energy, we
will start realizing that that that's just energy. It doesn't
have to define us. In fact, it doesn't define us.
But there's lots of ways to get rid of that.

(42:55):
When we're talking about raising our vibration, we just talked
about some of the ways go out and plague out
and have fun. Harm to none. Just be passionate, find
your passion to start exploring what do I like, what
do I enjoy, what do I want to do? What
lights me up? And then, of course breathing techniques are
a big one, right because even though those expos may

(43:16):
be serious or overly serious, there are some amazing tools
that you can learn in those expos at those conferences.
For example, certain breathing patterns and breathing techniques. You can
learn how to breathe and pull up out of you
just through energy, pull up out of you, the energies
of let's say, complaining or being any form of suffering,

(43:39):
or any energy that you don't like. You can literally
kind of like suck it up out of you in
a way, and when you take in your next inhale
as big full as you can breathe in a new
energy that you desire. Now that might sound so ridiculous,
and yet it's really true because we're made up of energy.

(43:59):
So if the energy is like, oh, it's like quicksand
I'm carrying around all this baggage, all right, Well there's
ways to get rid of that energetically and replace it, right,
just even through breath work, just through really extraordinarily powerful
breath technique.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Do you know, I'm trying to think of uh his
name here in a second. I was with a breathing
expert last weekend in Chicago, all right, and so I
would ask him a question, Right, it doesn't matter, so, uh,

(44:37):
what do you think about the vibration of the world today?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
This is you know how he answered?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
And then he would answer yeah, he'd always take this
deep breath and.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
And so I started doing it.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah, and it works. It. That's the whole thing is.
This is part of what I mean when I say
we're shifting out of an old paradigm where everything was
done through the brain, and that the brain is just
too limited of a tool. But that's part of our ancestry, right,
that's part of the Reptilian heritage, that we're evolving out

(45:14):
of that. We were over utilizing our left brain, we're
not even fully utilizing in a conscious way, our brain's
full capacity. But as we're starting to develop more of
our brains full capacity and unify it with our heart
brain and our gut brain, that stuff is awakening in us.
Right we're realizing it's just energy. We can shift everything.

(45:39):
We're so powerful, we're so magnificent, and yet we're playing
small because of the way we've been conditioned and in
a sense programmed, and we keep it's like, what's happening
in the world. In a sense, even going back to
your earliest question or what you were bringing up at
the very onset of our call of our time together,

(45:59):
was that it's like, what's happening is the way we've
been functioning is not working, and we're having to find
from within us something so new, so progressed, and it
can't be based on using the old ways that we've
been so we have to find it from within and
it's in all of us.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Okay, okay, okay, pump pump the brakes there, kid, pump
the brakes.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
In the interest of transparency, I'm just going to tell
the audience. I don't hang out on social media much
except for when I'm stalking.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Lori in the background. Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
To your point, I want you to tell us what happens.
So you posted this is probably three months ago. You
did this post. And I'm going to paraphrase here, but
you know exactly what I'm getting at.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
You did this post.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
You're like, okay, everybody, I'm checking out for a while.
I got to go do some work on myself. You
remember that post and you were gone, poof, right, Okay,
what does Lori span you do when you're off by
yourself work? Because you're you're a wealth of knowledge, you
know what to do.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Tell us about that journey?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I tell you what happened. I mean I literally I
was over I got to a point of kind of
like burnout. I was just overgiving and over delivering and
I wasn't doing enough replenishing. Right. So what I did
was I did I checked out. I've been traveling for
the past four months. I've kind of been not you know,

(47:41):
like not in the apt in the world. Just what
did I do? I went on to nature. I traveled
up from Florida all the way up to Massachusetts. Now
I'm in upstate New York, and I just stopped everywhere,
and I'd be like, where's my joy today? What am
I going to? What do I want to do? Where
do I want to stop? I just became a child again.
I was like, that looks fun. That looks fun. I'm

(48:01):
gonna go do that. I'm gonna go play here. And
I spent a lot of time. This is one of
the things people can do. I'll give you such a
powerful tool that people can do right now because you
can start activating. We didn't talk about the DNA yet,
but we all have. I mean this has come up
on your show. We all have dormant DNA waiting to
be unlocked. Right. The dormant DNA contains our greatest potentials,

(48:25):
like solutions to our problems. Right, for example, in the
year twenty twenty, I'm gonna teach people right now how
they can start activating DNA so easily. This is one
of the things I was doing. But for example, in
twenty twenty, we know that was COVID. Right, we have
codes in our DNA of immunity and imperviousness. Now you

(48:46):
got to activate it really for it to work. But
it does. I sat gut and sat next to a
guy who had COVID, was in room full of twenty
or more people. He had COVID. We didn't know. He
was coughing all over the place. I never got it
because of the codes of immunity and perviousness. The people
in the room that I activated their codes of immunity

(49:08):
and perviousness. They didn't get it. The other people did.
This is within us. It's not woo woo. It's real.
It's real. But it won't work if someone goes ah,
if they activate their skepticism, their cynicism, their doubt, their disbelief,
they brush it off. Okay, well, then that's your free
will choosing.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Those are the complainers with the negative baggage. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
But let me just say this is one of the
things I did. You go into nature somewhere where it's
peaceful and quiet, and you just allow the sun to
come in through your periphery vision, like you don't have
to look at it, but you just there's rays of
light that come from the sun, right, and you just
call that in and you breathe it in like it's
coming in through your you know, your side of your

(49:56):
eye and you just say activate, awaken, energize. Now you
got to take in that light. You really have to
take it in because the Sun, which we could call
the son of God, has light codes to help us
to awaken and enlighten ourselves. Okay, if you're just doing
it with your brain, it's not very effective. You do

(50:19):
have to understand the energy, and you can even drink it.
And this is one of the things I've done so
many times like this, the light codes are coming, I
just swallow it in and let my whole body get activated.
And you just activated, energize it, amplify it, anchor it,
and allow it to permeate through your entirety. This might

(50:40):
sound wooo, but this is within us.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's not woo woo. I think it's fact. I think
it's not glad when I get up in the morning. Okay,
I want to get back to your soul journey here.
I don't want this to get away from us. I
want to know you were missing. I want to know
what happened. Anyway, I cannot. I've developed this over time,
but certainly over the last four years it's hit me

(51:05):
like an ice pick in the forehead. This realization I
cannot function unless I go out into the sun the
first thing in the morning. It's weird.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
It's weird, well because I never did it before. I
was nocturnal. Shit, I slept through the day, you know,
you know what I mean. And so now I have
my morning ritual, right obviously, get up, shower downstairs, little
cup of espresso, right, make that, and I walk out

(51:43):
either on my front patio or my back patio, and
I let that friggin sun hit me right in the face.
And that's if I don't do that. If I don't,
and there's days that I don't, I'm not right. I
don't feel right for the whole day.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Do you know? Because every day the sun again, like
if you think of it, the sun, Sun of God
is shining its light on you. The Sun s o
n of God, and it's enlightening you either for the
day or the year. Like on your birthday, you have
three days of power. The day before, the day of

(52:21):
and the day after your birthday. That's when the Sun
of God is directly shining its light on you, the
Sun of God and enlightening you with powering you up
and charging you energetically for all of the the all
of the energy that you need for you for sure,
for sure day.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And I also think, and you're right, it's all of that.
And then there's the scientific component. There is probably chemistry
and chemical changes that could activate it in your brain
and your bloodstream and your nervous system that you know, melatonin, serotone,

(53:00):
and then you know all of these things that happened
that turn on the systems, all the switches are going
click click click click, click click click, And I think
that's part of it too. And man, I wish I
would have figured this out when I was twenty. I
was too busy chasing guitars and women and fun. Well

(53:22):
you know, you know we all you know, when we
were twenty damn it. Man if I had this knowledge,
I had to wait.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
All this time.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I'm serious. This is the thing. I always feel like
that too. I'm like, I wish I knew everything that
I know now twenty years ago, I would have had
such a more fulfilling, rewarding life. But this kind of
stuff really does fill you up. It does when you
start practicing it and applying it. And this is one
of the other things I want to say. In the brain,

(53:51):
what we've been how we've been functioning mostly through this
left analytical brain. What we didn't always realize was how
we could use different parts of the brain in conscious ways. So,
for example, there's the amig delay in the back of
the brain, These little nodules in the back of the brain,
they fill up with fear, unnecessary fear, but that's just energy.

(54:15):
So there's actually different kinds of breathing practices, not just breathing,
but meditative practices where we can actually clear that gunk fear,
unnecessary fear out of the brain. Same thing with the hippocampus, right,
the hippocampus in the brain stores up like it definitely
has fight flight fear. Okay, we need that, we need

(54:38):
the fight flight fear, but not the unnecessary trauma based fear.
We don't need that. But traumas are being stored in
parts of our brain hippocampus and the amig delay and
unnecessarily and we can clear that stuff out.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
You tell me how to do it.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Meditative practices and processes similar are some of the stuff
I've just mentioned about the sun. But you have to
directly utilize meditative practices to clear that energy out. It's
not something that can necessarily teach in five minutes. But
even if you're doing deep breath with the intention of
clearing it out and then combining it with certain vodka,

(55:19):
for example, violet flame. People know about violet.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I said vodka, not not violet. I said vodka, Well,
vodka help clear it out.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
That doesn't really work, Jimmy, just short term.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Well, okay, it works for a night.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, it doesn't really do it. The vodka is the
band aid. No, you can clear that stuff out. And
even if you just start breathing in people people in
this podcast know about the violet flame. Saint Germaine and
the violet flame you can call that's just energy too.
It is light, but it's also energy. So you can

(55:56):
call forward with your breath work the violet flame to
start clear out unnecessary fear and to transmuted because that's
what the violet flame does. There's other energies like that
diamond white light. I mean people may may not know
about that, there's other energies that do that stuff, Sacred fire,
diamond white light. Just by breathing that in with the

(56:17):
intention to clear that fear out. Okay, if you've never
done this stuff before, you're sort of like, I don't
know what that is. I don't know how to do that.
That's weird. Does it work, doesn't it work? I don't know.
I tried it. But that's why you've got to get
yourself into circles where it's like I do this with
my groups all the time. This is what we do.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Now.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Once you clear that stuff that you don't realize, you're
liberated in a way that you didn't even know you
could be. It's like you start seeing things so differently.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I get it. So I love, absolutely love our community
and the world that I've been exposed to, and I've
got I think it's all about balance. But here's the thing,
and I admit it now. Before I was in the
closet with all of this stuff, but I admit it now.

(57:07):
So my neighbors see me rolling up the street on
my Harley right black leather, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Just meant multiple, you know, and and pulling in.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
The garage and I'm taking off my gear and I'm
looking off and I walk right in to a fairy
feel filled, crystal adorned house right where I am talking
my guests. We're going to talk about higher vibrations. That

(57:43):
night of the show where and it is something that
is real, that is tangible. It is crazy to me
to go through these experiences and to look at the self.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Like I do. But you know what, though, I'll punch
somebody in the neck. I will well, it's.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Not that hard edge of you. But you are You're
just a teddy bear. You know it. Everybody knows.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Well, you know it's smoking mirrors, Lurie, it's smoking mirrors.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I want to tell you about the crystals.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yes, you know, do the crystals?

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Do we have time for that? Crystals activate DNA too.
When you start understanding that crystals are just record keepers, right,
I mean I know you know this, but not most
people do. I'm people in our communities know it, right.
Crystals are record keepers and timekeepers, and they're just holding
energy just like we're energy, and that energy can help

(58:40):
activate the DNA as well. When you learn how I've
been leading crystal retreats for a lot of years. We
do teach how to teach people how to communicate with
the crystals, how to use them to awaken and activate
the DNA, how to communicate with them the record keepers
and timekeepers, so you can access all kinds of inform
and knowledge and energy by working with crystals, and when

(59:04):
you have them around your house, you can drop by
the way, when you have things like tsunamis and storms
like we've been seeing, crystals are amazing protectors. So for example,
do you remember, I don't know if you remember Hurricane Sandy.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Oh Man back in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Yeah, of course, this is when I was just starting
to wake up about crystals, right, I really didn't understand
it at that time. I did this little crystal dropping
around my parents' house because they lived in New York
on the water. And I did a little sacred prayer,
a little you know, just a blessing, and I asked
the crystals to surround the house and I said, from

(59:44):
ceilings to flows. This came to me, It was given
to me, from ceilings to floors, windows to doors, garden,
protect this house. Like anyone can do this, right, you
have to do it like with humility, with prayer, you know,
reverence and just thank you, thank you, thank you. When
I did that with Hurricane Sandy, my parents live on

(01:00:05):
the water right near Manhattan. Every house on their block
flooded ten thousand dollars worth of damage or more. Their
house was untouched this stuff works. One of my students
was recently in LA during the fires. She was in
a high fire zone. Her house was untouched, even though
the neighborhoods around were pretty bad. Right, So this is

(01:00:30):
a tool we can all start using. Like it's effective.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Oh, Hurricane Sandy was in twenty twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Oh is that when that was?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah? I was What was I thinking of that hit
Florida in the eighties that, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
That might have been Matthew or oh no, that was
Matthew was way later?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
What was the one that just wiped out Florida in
the eighties. Somebody will pop up here, somebody in one
of you, moderator, Andrew, That's what it was, Andrew oh Man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
But I will tell you I've done this stuff every
single hurricane in Florida. I'll have people calling me and
they're saying, is everything okay? Is everything fine? And I'm like,
or I've been on classes where I'm leading classes and
meditations and there's a hurricane and I'm like, yeah, you
can see behind me, but nothing is happening here, Like
we're fine. But because we have the ability even to

(01:01:31):
affect the weather, for example, not necessarily this in this way,
but you can use crystals to not only create sacred
space and to protect, but also to work with the
weather because the weather patterns, and this might sound out there,
but they're just restoring some kind of balance or harmony
in the area.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
For example, tsunamis let's go to tornadoes. For example, they're
just like wiping out something that's not right. Right, A
tsunami can be doing some kind of cleanse. Water is
always almost some sort of cleanse. So so if the
crystals in your consciousness has in a sense created a

(01:02:12):
sacred space and said we're good here, all as well,
and if the person or people involved don't dip into
the fear of the anxiety, the worry, but can hold
the space to know this is safe and sacred. All
is well here. We've set up this space, we've made
the request. It's as good as done. They can hold

(01:02:33):
that frequency because that's energy and vibration. The house will
be untouched or the location will be untouched because the
weather pattern just does what it needs to do. But
if that area wherever you've done that little ritual, that
little practice, it doesn't need to be touched because that
space is already in harmony and resonance with the divine.

(01:02:55):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
It does?

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
It does if more people understood this that weather patterns
are in some way they are a form of consciousness too.
They're just doing something in relationship to the location that
needs to somehow be restored. And so if the human
in that weather pattern storm saying all of us can

(01:03:18):
find a way to be the vibrational harmony, which we
can be through energy and consciousness, it can become the
vibrational harmony that does not need that storm to do
some form of damage for the restoration. Does that make.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Sense if you think about it. Ancient cultures always dealt
with things in this way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, we just we just as a society, we've been
raised to believe that was something that was ancient cultures
or indigenous or wasn't available to us or wasn't possible
for us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And even if you look at mainstream media, like even now,
they have these shows on there like is there a ghost?
Is there a good like? Or they'll talk it like
sensational or as is x esp real like yes, it's real,
Like That's just part of how the society is cultured

(01:04:20):
to infuse doubt and disbelief into it, rather than the
knowing that it's part of who we are. It is
part of it's part of our divine birth right to
access our infinite potential within us and to awaken it
and utilize it for our betterment.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
It's nature. We have the right to that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
It's our divine nature.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
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I am your host, Jimmy Church. Tonight, Lori Spanya is
with us. We're talking about raising your vibration and Laurie
manifesting and and I'm going to start with this, how
can you change your life's direction with negativity and no manifestation.

(01:09:35):
It ain't gonna happen if you if you plot it
out and you know what your bliss is and whatever
that is your you know your little secret thing that
you've got inside of you. If you don't plant that,
the universe is not going to respond and help you

(01:09:56):
with your with your charting, your course that you can't.
Am I expressing this correctly because I'm a firm believer
in all of that. So what is first off, for
those that are checking in for the first time on
these subjects, what is manifesting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Manifestation is just the actualization into the physical reality that
which you think, believe and perceive, right, and what you
energetically create.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
So we're manifesting twenty four to seven will whether we
realize it or not. Like I have a colleague and
a friend she recently came to me about her animal companion.
She was like, my animal. Put my I've been going
through all these tests with my animal, and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Who do we have here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Hold on?

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Hold on? Who just came in there?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
What's his name?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Emma?

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Oh it's is she? Emma?

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Emma? Yeah, she sits on my lap a lots times
what I'm doing. She's amazing, comes right on, you know,
she's my So. But here's the thing. One of my
colleague friends, she she was like, the dot, We're doing
all these tests and we don't know what's going on,
and there's all these things happening. And I was like,
you know, it's a little bit of a story. But
basically what she was saying was, I've always said I

(01:11:14):
would do anything for my baby, right. And I was like,
you're manifesting this, like you're co creating this experience because
you've been telling the universe and you've been affirming you
would do anything for your baby, meaning her dog. And
so if that's that was her miscreating. See, the challenge

(01:11:35):
is a lot of times we're miscreating. We don't even
realize our thoughts are energy. Our thoughts, our emotions, our beliefs,
our belief systems, all of that non physical energy, non
physical matter is emanating from us into the field of
energy that basically is us. We are at one with right,

(01:12:00):
It's part of all that is, and it reflects back
to us in physical reality. That's manifesting. We're actualizing what
we think about, what we believe, what we perceive, and
how we emote and what our attitudes are. Now, if
you take that and you combine that with overall, every

(01:12:21):
being on earth has an agenda, like our soul's agenda.
The soul's agenda is what is this person here to
somehow learn or how are they here to grow or evolve,
or what are they here to somehow heal or karmically resolve,
energetically resolve. So it's going to be something where I'm

(01:12:42):
meant to learn, grow, heal, resolve. And those typically those
areas of what we call this what I call the
soul's journey. Those are typically blind spots, so we don't know.
That's why we're stretched right when we're in like working
through what we would call shadow aspects or challenges or
ruggles or frustrations or anxieties or fears, those are usually

(01:13:05):
almost always some form of soul agenda at work help
us to grow and evolve, right, And so through that
we somehow up level because we resolve something, and chances
are it's been some kind of pattern that we've had
like our whole lifetime, repeats over and over again, like

(01:13:26):
the hamster wheel, right, and until we start to step
back and be like, wait a minute, I've gone through
this before, like this has happened. I'm choosing something different.
I'm going to take all the wisdom that I've gained
and apply it. That's when we don't have to recreate.
But those two things together are basically what makes up
our life journey, right, And so the whole thing about

(01:13:50):
the blind spots is the recognition that those are the
things that we typically don't know, we're not necessarily prepared
for it, those are the things that sort of, yeah,
they challenge us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I'm going to say this right now. Emma's got it
all figured out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah she does.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
She's got it all figured out, but she bally.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Knows you're talking about her right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
It is such an important point if you if you
play the victim and you're surrounding yourself with negativity and
no future, then man, the universe is going to give
you just.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
That because you're constantly creating. Your constant cannot not be creators.
We cannot not be creators. So when we talk about manifesting,
the whole idea of manifesting is that people are starting
to become more and more conscious that they can create
a life that they desire or outcomes or things that

(01:14:53):
they want to have or do or be or experience.
And so they're doing it in a more conscious way
through usually visualization in some form of meditative practice. But
you're you're I tell people the fastest. You want to
know what the fastest and easiest way is to manifest something.
It's so easy. Just think about it all day long

(01:15:16):
and attach to it, attached to it a positive energy
like excitement or enthusiasm or anticipation, like, oh my god,
I'm so excited. This is what I'm creating. This is
what I'm having. I can't wait. This is what it's
going to look like. This is what it's going to
feel like. Oh my god, this is so awesome. I geat,
it's gonna be so good. It's gonna be so amazing.

(01:15:38):
I'm gonna love it like a lot. It doesn't even
have to be that extreme. It could just be like,
I'm really looking forward to X y Z, I'm so
looking forward to this. It's gonna be so I'm really
gonna I'm really looking forward to it. And you just
keep thinking about it and attach a positive emotion. That
is the fastest and easiest way to manifest. Because you're

(01:15:59):
men infesting anyway. Now the moment the fear comes in,
because this is what happens for people, right, I don't
know if it's real, it's it gonna work? I don't
did I do it? Right, is it effect? It like, Okay,
now that's the energy that's going to slow it down,
or the energy of skepticism or cynicism.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I mean, it's so simple. It's it's it's it's not easy.
Nobody's saying it's easy, but it's very simple.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
It is easy. If it's a positive thing that you like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Well, there's no mystery, there's no great secret. Here is
what I'm saying, right, I you're my guest. The show
was not about me, But let me tell you. I'm
just I'm just going to say this. I about twenty
five years ago. This is twenty twenty five, So about
twenty five years ago, things in my life spiraled out

(01:16:56):
of control. Now I'm not going to get into those
des but I got to the point where and I
was struggling, and I had my two daughters, right, I
had Rita, and it was just like, man, nobody is

(01:17:17):
going to help me. I've got to get out of
that frame of mine. Honestly, nobody gives a shit. Okay,
it's about me. And it was that I just hit
this point where and suddenly I went, Okay, this is

(01:17:38):
what I'm going to do boom boom boom. And I
made this thing, this commitment, this contract with myself. I
went to my kids, I went to Rita and I said, okay,
and my family, I said, Okay, this is what I
want to do. I want to go back to school.
I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this,

(01:17:58):
and I want to start this thing. And I made
up my mind full of nothing but goals and positive thoughts,
and I got everything done. It wasn't done overnight, going
back to school at my age, at the age of
forty what he does that, right, But it was just

(01:18:23):
one little thing after another. It was all positive steps.
There was no negativity in my life. I took you
there well, I started to realize it was the negative
stuff that I was thinking about that was holding me back. Also,
I'm serious playing the victim, playing the victor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
But see, that was part of your soul's agenda. From
my perspective, and as I'm hearing you, and I mean
like I'm psychic, but that's not I'm not always using that.
Just so obvious, right, your soul came here with an
agenda to clear victim consciousness. So you were going through
that for some degree of time, so you could finally,

(01:19:06):
as a conscious being, start to recognize, I'm not a
victim of my own story. Here's what I need to
do to change my experience and to elevate myself out
of this. Even if you didn't at that time call
yourself a victim or think of it as victim consciousness,
you made obviously very clear calculations that said, I'm going

(01:19:28):
to change my reality and here's the steps I'm going
to take. And you chose deliberately and with intent to
use the energy of various kinds of positivity to uplift
yourself and to make a new choice in the trajectory
of your life. But while you were going through that
shadow stuff of feeling like a victim, hopeless, whatever you're

(01:19:48):
going through, that's the shadow stuff that there's no one
who escapes life on earth without going through those things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
At some time, you got to do it. Yeah, you're working.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Through your shadow stuff, and that's part of the soul's agenda, right.
So when you share a story like that, Jimmy, that
that helps people to understand because so much of our
old paradigm reality is based on you know, these these false, fake,
phony ways of being. You know, take a snapshot of
your cool food and your pretty images, and which I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Did this weekend. Which I did this week.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
You're being authentic and sharing that authentic truth about yourself,
which is what helps people to realize, like everybody goes
through stuff like that. Even though every soul's agenda is
unique and different, overall, everyone goes through shadow stuff where
we have to work through that and somehow, you know,
elevate ourselves so that we can learn and grow and evolve. It.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
It is so important and one of the things and
let's let's talk about this.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
And I did this without reading you know book. I was,
I was, I was on that path and I was
dipping my toe in the water. But I did most
of this because I figured out what wasn't working, and
what wasn't working was I realized that people want to

(01:21:14):
be around people that are positive and have a beam
of light glowing around them if you're walking around with
negative thoughts, or people don't want to be around you
people you know, And so it was it was all
baby steps. It doesn't happen overnight. But I told you earlier,

(01:21:39):
I said to the audience. I wake up in the
morning and go out and let the light hit my
face so I can turn on now. To get to
that point, to have a house that you can walk
outside of, right, and to be in this thing. Look,
look what's around me? Right yeah? Okay, okay, right, right right?

(01:22:03):
That is that's all part. And but to get to
this point, that is a long road of positive thought
and manifestation. It's not a road of negative thought or
being pissed off at or pointing fingers or you know,
talking shit about other people. That's bad stuff to do.

(01:22:26):
Don't do it, you know, don't you know. I'm gonna
say that. I'm just let me say this. I want
everybody to listen to me, including you, Laurie. Somebody show
me anywhere in social media, in a private email, of

(01:22:46):
recorded phone calls, show me something somewhere where I talked smack.
It doesn't exist. I live what I am saying, right,
I truly do that. I'm not saying that I'm not
a dick, because I am. But that's but but but uh,

(01:23:10):
I don't. I don't spread that. And I want people
to see who I am and they can also if
we all do our little part, then that is the
change that we are looking for.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's what I love that you just
said that, Jimmy, because you know what so many people do.
Look are looking at the world right now and feeling
discouraged and you know, in some cases hopeless and disempowered,
and we don't always realize how powerful it is. One
of the things that the ascended masters say through channeling

(01:23:47):
is that when one person positively uplifts themselves, the entire
world is uplifted because everyone is connected through through that
one source, right, And we might define an understand that
source differently, but regardless that source that is infinite, infinite

(01:24:07):
consciousness is we are all part of it. So when
one person works through their own shadow stuff, which you
clearly have, you know when you're explaining that story, it's
really true that you are contributing to the betterment in
the world.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
I walked out. I walked out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I was in I'll be back in Peru in a
few weeks and a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
This here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I love Peru, I love just countries, just going out
and experiencing the culture. But I'm walking out. We're in
the Sacred Valley, staying at this really cool hotel. Walk
out of my room into this courtyard beautiful, right, really
really really cool. And there was this lady Indian sitting

(01:24:59):
on the step outside of my room and she is
crocheting a blanket, a Peruvian shawl or whatever, the most
insane artwork you've ever seen, right, And I don't know
how old she was, but I'm gonna say seventy five, okay.

(01:25:24):
And she's sitting there, she's got you know, she got
a thing. And I sneak up behind her and I'm
watching her with you know, doing her thing, and this,
oh man, it was beautiful. And I fired up my phone. Anyway,
I went down and whispered in her ear. Okay, she

(01:25:45):
didn't speak English, and I said, that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
And you know what she did.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
She goes just like this, this little laugh, this little laugh.
And I came around and she was smiling. That is
somebody that is happy, right she is. That is go

(01:26:12):
and experience that come back to this country.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Also, say, you shared with her the energy of loving
kind You shared with her the energy. You could call
it the energy of beauty, the energy, but to me
is the energy of loving kindness. So this is another
example of why energy is universal, right, because she didn't
have to understand your words to know what you meant energetically.

(01:26:39):
You were complimenting, sincerely the beauty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
I saw her. I saw her for the next three days, morning,
noon and night right walkobye, and she was just you know,
you know what I mean and and but but the
point is that we are all the same on this planet.
And when you go out and you see somebody that
is truly happy about life and everything else, and then

(01:27:06):
look back at yourself, do that self reflection at that moment?
Am I happy? Am I doing the right thing? Am
I glowing inside like this person is? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Yeah, Because we are the ones who have to live
with our own self. We're the ones who have to
wake up to our own self and go to bed
with our own self. Right, So you're the only one
I'm saying you, but I mean all of us. We're
the ones who have to feel good about who we
are being. And that's what part of what choosing to
be our most extraordinary selves, choosing to be the best

(01:27:37):
versions of ourselves right now is so important because there
are a gazillion things going on at any moment of
any day that we cannot control. But what we can
control is who we are being. And this is why
I keep referring back to everything as energy, because you
can take in the energy of joy, of kindness, of

(01:28:00):
you know, grace, any moment of any day, just through
breathing and then behaving in accordance with that, and also
just by becoming conscious of your own self. What am
I thinking, how am I feeling? Who am I being
right now? And you can decide, just like you did, Jimmy,
just like you just told us that story, you can

(01:28:21):
decide to be the best version of yourself. And that
doesn't mean like this is what I lead a visionary
sacred visionary group. It doesn't mean you don't bring your
challenges to people or to group or somewhere where you
can get support and help with that in appropriate places
at appropriate times. Of course, this is not an easy

(01:28:44):
reality to live on in planet Earth. Like it's challenging
us to grow and to evolve right now, and it
is a fear based reality that we're breaking free from,
so that means stuff's going to come up. It's not
easy for people. It's like time for us to start
admitting life on Earth is challenging, so we find right
and appropriate places. Mentors, healers, guides, coaches, you know support

(01:29:08):
circles to work through that stuff, knowing that we're not
pretending or denying that those things are there, and then
at the same time constantly reclaiming our right to be
the best versions of ourselves through the way we behave,
the way we think, and what we share in the world,
just like how you shared with that woman. You totally

(01:29:28):
and I do. I totally agree, Jimmy. Every time I
see you at expos I'm like, he's just You're just
so fun. You're always making people laugh and smile, and
you know, that's such a positive quality to uplift up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
You don't need a language to communicate that vibration.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
You just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
And like I said, I just whispered in her ear,
that's beautiful. She didn't know what I said, right, but
she the way she likes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
She got on your face too, right, Because smile is
a universal language as well. It doesn't matter like what
language you speak or what country you're in. It's recognized worldwide.
And from what I understand from the fleet and the
other being star beings who I've channeled, they understand that
language too. I know that's right, joy or happiness or NS.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
I was watching her I was watching her stitch. It's
one stitch at a time, right, just and she's doing
the loop and the stitch, and I'm looking at the
time it's taking her to do a stitch, and I'm
looking at this blanket or shawl that she's doing. I'm think, man,

(01:30:47):
what is that a year? Right? Right? Just one stitch
at a time, doing the loop and the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
And I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
It's perfect, It's so beautiful. And what she is putting into.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
That, it just wow, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
It was such for me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
It was just so moving, and she just she was
right outside of my hotel room. Every day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
I'm looking at all of her stuff that she has
stacked up out there. All of her friends, they're all
out there. It's they're family and stuff. And looking at
stacks of that stuff, the love that is put into
that and the bliss. Also, here's the thing. It's the
tradition that has been handed down for thousands of years

(01:31:36):
right to do this, which goes back to your knowledge
and to others that share their knowledge. This has been
handed down for a very long time. This is ancient wisdom,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Yeah. I will say that too. Going back to the
DNA we actually all have, all of us have stored
in our dormant DNA wisdom and knowledge from our ancestors,
And if you're willing to go there with me past
parallel lives, right, I mean, from my perspective, it's not
even a question that you have passed or parallel lives

(01:32:14):
is more accurate because in quantum physics, all realities coexist, right,
So you're in another time space reality as another person
living a different life, right, having different experiences, but they
overlap into this reality, and in this physical the patterns
of them, the energy of it overlaps, so you're kind
of living similarly in a similar overlapping way. And the

(01:32:37):
story of it, including all the wisdom you gained, is
coded into your DNA as well. So whether you call
it ancestral wisdom from your own storyline or from your
actual human ancestors, it's coded in you. Like I have
so many awarenesses from so many of my other lifetimes
because I've activated so much of my dormant conciousness, so

(01:33:01):
I've reclaimed we have this ability to do this within us.
Reclaimed some of my greatest gifts that I mastered in
other lifetimes, like animal communication and telepathy. I didn't actually
have to study that psychic development. I didn't really have to.
I mean, I cultivated it, but it was really within me.

(01:33:22):
It's stuff that I did in other lifetimes. I have
this memory from like living as an Indian, like a
young Indian girl who was cast out of the tribe.
Native American cast out of the tribe for challenging the
elders about like medicine. And but rather than like just

(01:33:42):
completely like ostracized me, they just they did ostracize me,
but they made me follow behind them. I had to
support myself entirely, take care of myself. But this way
they always had an eye on me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
So in that lifetime I learned how to work with herbs,
and I learned like all about shaman different kinds of
medicine and healing and energies. And I learned how to
communicate with animals. And it's amazing we have this in us.
We have the capacity to access our dormant knowledge and
wisdom within us. But it's all about unlocking it with

(01:34:18):
energy and vibration.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
How much how much of the world, I don't want
to be negative, but there's an elephant in the room here.
How much of the world doesn't give a crap about
what you and I.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
Are talking about, well, most of them, as much as
maybe even as much as eighty percent. Actually yeah, But
you want to know why they don't give a crap
because they're too busy just trying to put food on
the table, or you know, survive, because that old paradigm
is based in survival. See, the reason that people don't

(01:34:58):
give a crap about this stuff is because they don't
really yet understand how much it's going to improve their lives,
not only the quality of their life personally, but it
will improve the life of the people around them. And
it will not only improve the life of the people
around them, but overall uplift elevate consciousness on Earth, and

(01:35:20):
that is really important right now, because without elevating consciousness,
humans are suffering and animals are suffering. So the whole
point of this, to me, it's not just a bunch
of woo wo Like. I didn't open up and access
my psychic gifts and my animal telepathy abilities just for

(01:35:42):
the fun of it. It was so that I could
really help and support an assist in ways that were
beyond my human comprehension, right, and we all. Like I said,
we all have these abilities. There's no one who's not psychic.
You just have to learn how to access your You
have to learn how to access different brainwave frequencies. You
have to learn how to be a translator of the

(01:36:02):
information that comes through. You have to be able to
activate your third eye, which we know that's just the
pineal put tou aitary gland. So there's different things we
have to develop and cultivate. But it's not like it's
just it's so ridiculous to think that it's unimportant or
insignificant when gaining access to these capacities is restoring from

(01:36:25):
within us our capacity to improve our lives in every
area and to facilitate the improvement of life on earth
for others as well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
It's for me, I test the waters myself when I
talk about these subjects, I'm not doing I'm not making
stuff up. I'm not making shit up. But when I
go out with people or I'm around people that aren't
part of our community.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Now, some of these are people that have.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Known for a long time, you know, thirty forty fifth years,
maybe in some instances family members. I'm not pointing fingers
necessarily at a specific group of my family. But anyway,
I will listen to their conversations and the majority of

(01:37:18):
it is fear based, complaining crazy, right, and I'll yeah,
and I'll jump in and go. You know, I haven't
been saying anything because honestly, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Do any of this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
How can you guys? And I've done it. I have
stopped a conversation going how.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Can you guys and gals do this?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Don't you understand what you are doing here, what you're perpetuating,
your belief system, your bubbled this whole thing that you're in.
I can't relate to anything that you guys are talking
about right now. It's not part of what.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
It's not part of what. And you know what the
response is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Huh yeah, Because do you understand that people are very wired.
Our brains get wired, and we the neurotransmitters in our
brain just fire off. This is what it means when
we say we're unconscious. We're just running the same patterns
in the same programs and the same ways of thinking

(01:38:26):
and believing and behaving and emoting. And until we consciously
choose to rewire, repattern and realign ourselves energetically, that's when
we become better or new people, right, because we have
to make a conscious choice to change. We have to
decide we want something better. Otherwise, if a free will

(01:38:49):
choice person is just choosing to not change, and most
people really don't want to change, most people had it's
hard work. I think this is really funny, Jimmy, you'll
get a kick out of this. The other I was
on the phone with a friend of mine and I
was saying, Yeah, most people really don't want truth. If
they did, we wouldn't even have the leaders that we have,

(01:39:10):
the world leaders, like, there's no way if people want
to even in the spiritual metaphysical communities. At the Consciousness
expos you said this yourself. It's like a lot of
times people don't really want truth. And so the question
remains is, well, that's okay, you have a free will choice,

(01:39:30):
but if you don't want truth, then this is the
reality that we have. If you don't like the reality
that we have, then we have to change. That can
only come from within. If you don't want truth, then
you're gonna get false, phony, fake leaders who lie and
to create, who attempt to control, dominate, manipulate for their

(01:39:52):
own selfish agendas to the harm to the many for
the benefit of the few, to the harm to the many.
That's what we get. And that's what like, you know,
the ancient traditions have meant when they say things like
ignorance is bliss.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Well, here's what happens right, right, right, And to your point,
it's not just politics and political leaders, it's all it's
all leaders. It's corporation, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Yeh, financial industry, military, government institutions, big tech. Big tech
has done so much to try to suppress and control
and dominate and manipulate. So it's just and it's again,
it's not really the fault of people. It's the structures, systems,

(01:40:48):
and societies that have been built in this old paradigm
that's all based in the fear, domination, control, manipulation for
the benefit of the feud to the harm to the many.
That's that's what's shifting now. But we're still in the
very in a sense, very early stages of it because
humans are just starting to wake up and realize like, oh,
I can create a better reality by becoming more conscious,

(01:41:13):
and that means I have to seek more truth, you know,
because truth when truth. Here's what I would say about truth,
it's not always pretty, but it always ultimately serves you.
And the other thing about truth is because we live
in this reality that's very subjective, perspective based. So if

(01:41:34):
you if you perceive something and I perceive something different,
and if it's just perspective based, it's like subjective, right, Well,
who's to say what's real? You see a red dot,
I see a blue dot. Who's to say it's real. However,
absolute truth does not require belief in order for it
to be real and true. Absolute truth is absolutely true

(01:41:56):
regardless of whether or not somebody believes it. And if
you just even take that statement and really allow that
to sink in, you'll be like, yeah, that makes sense.
Absolute truth does not require belief. It's absolutely true. So
when someone starts seeking absolute truth, now they can no
longer be lied to. Now they can no longer be manipulated,

(01:42:18):
they can now no longer be controlled, they can no
longer be dominated. They start to seek truth in service
for their betterment. And as that happens, they're only interested
in what is for the betterment of If it's for
their themselves, they understand has to be for the betterment
of all. This is a natural part of what happens

(01:42:39):
as we evolve, but seeking truth becomes really an important
piece of it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Yeah. I I often wonder how many, and if we're
talking about billions here, it's not, you know, but how
many are steered throughout life by a bubble that they
refuse to climb out of, right, And so they assume

(01:43:14):
that everybody else is just like them because their bubble
is their existence, and.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Because your lens of your perspective is what you believe
to be truth.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
And you think the whole world is just like you, right,
And that's that's that's it's insane to me. And so,
and how how I came to this realization is I
stopped and I did this many over ten years ago.

(01:43:52):
I stopped watching the news. Okay, I don't, I haven't
what I have not watched any news media on a
television in over ten years at all?

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Me neither.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Yeah, I stopped and it refused.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
It's all brainwashing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I physically changed, Yeah, I physically changed. You know what
I improve.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
And your happiness will improve.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
It's crazy how how I changed. And now you know,
when I watch it when I have to, if there's
fires and there's natural things going on, and I've got
to you know, okay, yeah, all right, all right, but
everything else is fed to me, and you know I stopped.

(01:44:45):
I stopped.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Do you know One of the things that I teach
in my psychic development classes and the intuitive development classes
is divine discernment. And it's not even always for me
to teach it, but like you can use a pendulum
to start learning. Of course, you know about pendulums and
you know dowsing rods, but you have the technology within
your own consciousness to develop your capacity for divine discernment,

(01:45:10):
to know truth and to know when someone's lying. And
it's not that you're seeking that out. You're just you're
not looking for liars, you're looking for truth. You just
because if somebody's on the news or on the TV
or whatever, some false authority telling you you have to
do something and you think you don't have a choice,
you're being forced. That's because you just haven't necessarily expanded

(01:45:34):
your capacity yet to no truth. Because, for example, in
this reality, one of the things I've come to learn
through my healing abilities and my extra sensory abilities is
to know that the divine will always provide that will
continue to provide freedom of choice. So when a person says,

(01:45:54):
I was forced to do this. I had no choice.
It's because they were not aligned with the divinity in
them that knew they could ask for another choice, right
that another choice will always be provided. So developing divine
discernment gives you the talents and abilities within the natural

(01:46:15):
organic ability within to not only just know truth, but
also to expand more potentials for yourself that maybe you
didn't even know. We're available to make your life better.
So another one of the things I teach in the
psychic development classes, I teach, man, that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Is so strong.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Whoo.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I had to just absorb that a second time. Well, okay,
before we get to you just said another thing I teach,
So we'll circle back to that. What I do, and
I think everybody should do this. I choose what I
want to learn. That is my free will. I choose

(01:47:00):
that well, and my producer, Renee chooses for me too
as well. But she's inside of my head. She knows
and and I do the news every day live. I
do it in the afternoon, and believe it or not,
we do the news, and she's so good at it.
We do stuff that, believe it or not, is actually

(01:47:22):
out there. If you want to dig for it. Everything
is not doom and gloom steered.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
Towards you to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Throw fear in you and to to get you to
emotionally react. And I don't and I don't, I don't.
I do read what I need to. I want to
be aware. I'm not saying I'm just a dufist, but
I don't, I don't, I don't. What's the word? I

(01:47:56):
don't allow intrusion?

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
Right, that's the thing. That's why, especially mass media is
typically used to keep people in fear, because people are
more easily controllable when they're in a state of fear.
This is fact, right, So yeah, this is why one
of the things I was what I was saying earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
What what do you teach? I'm sorry, that's my bad.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Start learning. No, that's worry. It's just people can learn this.
You can start to learn to ask who stands with you. So,
for example, when I'm channeling and a being comes to
me and says, I want to channel, I want to
share something I can I learned to ask who stands
with you? Or who do you stand with? This is
how I started knowing if a being in the non

(01:48:43):
physical was truly in service to the light, meaning the
expansion of consciousness, or in service to some other secret, private,
covert agenda, because I can see who stands with them
or who they stand with. So, for example, if you
have a political leader or even just anyone on TV speaking,

(01:49:04):
and you start learning to ask who stands with them
or who do they stand with, you'll start to see
the same thing. With spiritual leaders healers like me. You
can ask when you start developing your capacity. It's not
something that happens through the brain. It's not something you
can just ask and then hear through the brain, although
that's possible for sure. You can actually start to expand

(01:49:26):
into your capacity to see and to know. I've touched students.
They can see like thousands of beings standing with me.
This isn't like everyone has this ability. So if some
leader on the TV, for example, just as an example,
is teaching something or saying something or telling people to
be afraid or something, if you develop that capacity, you

(01:49:49):
can see that a lot of the world leaders just
have a lot of black demons with them.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
They are black demons.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
What do you mean they have.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Black like you or just heaviness or like eh, it's
just so it's yucky. And if you're when you become
more empathically sensitive, as we are all becoming, we are
all becoming more sensitive. That's why you were talking about
your your compassion for what's going on in the world. Right,
we are becoming more compassionate, more sensitive. But you can

(01:50:17):
feel into it too, you can feel into it like
this is why so many empaths I work with will
come to me and they'll be like, I just don't
want that energy, and I'm like, okay, but you know
you're in resistance to the energy. If you're in resistance,
it's just going to stick on to you, like Lou, right,
because there's a lot of yucky stuff attaching on to

(01:50:39):
some of the leaders of our world or some of
the people out there in the world who are just
bringing negativity in. This even goes back to what you
were saying about complainers, because a person who's complaining a
lot typically is carrying a lot of negativity, and a
lot of times who stands with them is just they

(01:51:00):
don't even know there's beings around them. This is if
I don't if I can go on just a little
bit more, one of the things that really makes me
so sad is that I know that people who either
sometimes commit suicide or who are involved in extreme addiction,
it's because they have like entities or demonics in their

(01:51:23):
ear saying go drink that, or go smoke that, or
go drive off that bridge or whatever, you know, and
they don't even know, right, like even the phenomena of
multi you know, split personalities or multi multiple personalities, that's
just entities. And we healers can clear that stuff, powerful

(01:51:46):
gifted healers, not you know, beginners. That's a powerful thing
to be able to do to help clear that. But
because our society doesn't recognize this stuff, people are suffering.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
That's right, that's right, that's right. That's such a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
It's just time.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
No, And here's the thing, most of us, most of
us have crazy ass thoughts, right, we do. We just
don't act on them. Okay, wait, wait, but let me finish.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
We don't act on them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
And so because of that, we don't necessarily understand somebody
else that's going through issues that they can't control. There's
a difference there, you know. It's so easy to go, well, yeah,
I've thought about robbing a bank, but I've never done it.
I've thought about getting addicted to heroin, right, but I've

(01:52:45):
never done it. But we all fantasize about crazy stuff,
we just don't act on it. But there are people
out there, for whatever reason, have to go through serious
conflict and we just sit back and go, I don't

(01:53:06):
get it. And that's the problem is that we don't
want to take the time to understand what somebody else
may be going through and why, what it was the
root cause.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Remember when you said, like, how many people really care
about this? And I was like, yeah, maybe as much
as eighty percent of the people don't even care, maybe more.
But if one of those people has an addiction in
their family and doesn't realize, like addictions can be cleared
when you start clearing the entities and the demonics from
a person's field, Okay, there's probably more to it. Usually

(01:53:39):
there's other factors too, but that's a major factor. Then
suddenly this becomes something more important, or here's another one. Seizures.
Seizures a lot of times, not always, but in a
lot of cases are coming from some being either trying
to get in and squeeze out another being like hijacking
a body, or they're coming from some form of I

(01:54:02):
don't know if I should stay or should I go.
The person or the animal is energetically split, right, that's
that can be resolved through sole reunion. Right when there's
sole fragments that creates a split or a schism energetically.
So this stuff isn't so woo woo. When you start
realizing like this can actually help heal animals and people

(01:54:27):
from major life crisis. Is that our current society is
not addressing because they don't care about it. But these
are the kinds of solutions. We're talking about, codes of
immunity and imperviousness in the DNA. You know, things that
we've mentioned on the call today, working with crystals I'm
the podcast, Yeah, you know with crystals, you know, learning

(01:54:50):
how to set up sacred space, learning how to awaken
your dormant potential. These are tools that will help you
if you start using and applying the And as our
society starts to recognize the value in these kinds of tools,
they're going to aid in all kinds of things as
we go forward, because more and more people are starting

(01:55:13):
to see like working with energy will heal, help heal addictions,
will help heal all kinds of physical traumas will help heal.
Suicidal types of issues will help multiple personality issues, and
on and on and on. I mean it's to me
as a healer who just understands how to work with

(01:55:33):
energy and how to incorporate because it's always the Divine
that does the healing. I'm the facilitator, I'm the translator.
I'm the person who uses the energy that the divine
brings through to facilitate the healing. But working with energy
is really the way ultimately to heal. It's so powerful

(01:55:54):
it can heal, Like every disease is healable, every disease
is healable.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
The key is anxiousness, isn't it. The key is consciousness
at every level, A will choice.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
Free will choice, because if a person says I don't
believe in it, I'm not you know, we talked about
that too. If a person just isn't interested or isn't
willing or unfortunately, part of what's happened in our society
is we've been sort of manipulated or trained, however you
say it, to believe that somehow spiritual healing should happen

(01:56:26):
the way you think it happens, Like a person in
a wheelchair goes up to a pulpit, you know, and
the minister puts his hands on and then two seconds later, hallelujah,
I've been healed. When that's not really how energy works.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
Right right, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
Takes a lot longer for the physical that you are hailed.
So because people have a like a miscalculation about how
it should work and what their expectations are, they don't
always necessarily realize they expect it to happen much faster.
Energy healing can take time, but it's it's never painful,

(01:57:02):
it's always almost always enjoyable. It's very overall, very positively uplifting,
and I mean it's never as costly at the time
as like traditional methods. So it's it's really to be
such a powerful solution that we have that we'll be
able to utilize this kind of stuff to heal ourselves

(01:57:24):
going forward. I don't think I don't think that humans
are going to be suffering and animals are going to
be suffering the same physical diseases right as we become
more conscious because we're all healers.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Does have this?

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
Does?

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
Does everybody now understand why I hang out with LORII?
Does everybody? Does everybody understand. You're magical. You're absolutely magical.
We've got your links below. I'm going to share something
positive with you though. Do you have Netflix?

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Okay, the new season. Listen, every buddy. The new season
of Love, Death, and Robots is out season four. All right,
there is an episode called and listen to me. You
can thank me later. It's called Close Encounters of the

(01:58:17):
Mini Kind. Close Encounters of the Many Kind. All right,
go and watch it. I'm not going to give anything away.
I'm just not going to do it. Love Death and Robots,
Close Encounters of the Many Kind? Or are you writing

(01:58:38):
it down? Do you even care? I'm dispensing of life
changing information.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
I say, my brain is brilliant. I've got that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Okay, you got it? You got Okay? Then I expect
an email from you. I expect an email from you tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
Church.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
That was amazing. Ok all right, Laurie, Hey, I have
a great night. Where can everybody reach out to you?

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Well, first of all, they can go to my YouTube
channel and get activated with their codes of immunity and
previousness Lorispanya. My website is lorispanya dot com. If you
want to learn about how to activate your DNA you
can go to lorispanya dot com forward slash free Gifts,
Forward slash DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
I've got all the links up, everybody. Yeah, all the
links are there. We've been posting them all.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
Night my website, right, there's lots of free gifts there.
You can learn about your star seed origins and your
role is in the Indigo family tribe. And you can
awaken your psyche gifts, your intuitive gifts, and learn how
to help animals. It's all at the website lorispanya dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Laurie, you're the best. I can't wait to see you again,
my friend. Just thank you so much for having you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
You're the best. Laurie.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
You know how much I love you. All Right, I'll
see you out there. Thank you, Louri. Have a great night,
LORI Spaanya. Everybody another perfect night on the show. And
tomorrow night. I do want remind everybody we've got a
great week coming up.

Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
Tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Dana Louise is with us and the show is called
This is Gonna Sound Weird. That is the name of
her book. Go and check out the show description. Tomorrow
is going to be a great conversation. I want to
thank Laurie for everything that she does. Her links are
below again on our website and throughout social media, and
we've got all the links up in the chat for

(02:00:24):
all of those gifts and everything that she's laid out for. Okay,
So another great night on the show. I will see
everybody tomorrow with Dana Luise. Until then, all I've got
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