FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Dana Louise

Tonight, author, researcher and experiencer Dana Louise joins us to discuss her book: This is Gonna Sound Weird

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:33):
This Hope Radio for the Masses.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Headline of this July eighth, nineteen forty seven, the Audi
Airport person outstart applying the help be found, and there's
now in the possession of the arda. The game is
really changed, the game game. I occasionally think how quickly
our difference is worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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an alien threat from outside this worker. This is Day
to Black with's your host Jimmy Church on the Game
Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
All right, here we go, fade to black. How you doing?
How you doing? Today's Tuesday, May twenty of twenty twenty five.
I'm your host, Jummy Church. What's cracking everybody? How you doing?
Let's do this man. Yeah, another great week, So excited

(01:38):
to be here. Last night Lori Spania was with us.
She's always great on the show, and last time we
were talking about raising your vibration. Tonight, Dania Luis is
with us, and this show tonight is going to sound weird.
We're gonna do all of that tomorrow night. Actor Thomas
Jane joins us. He is back where we are going
to be talking about his book, A Humans Guide to

(02:02):
Visiting Aliens. Now I'm gonna let everybody know something. Let
everybody know something. I've known Thomas for twenty years. That's crazy,
isn't it. That's crazy. Last time he was on the show,
we acted like that was nothing. You know, we didn't
even bring it up. But it's crazy. It's crazy to

(02:23):
have him on and to see him just step into
our community is so great. Anyway, Thomas Jane on Tomorrow
night and then Thursday night, Jason Quit is back with us.
Truly one of my closest friends and one of my
favorite guests on the show. Everybody knows that. You know
what we need. We need to do another quit Spiracy.

(02:47):
I keep having Jason on to talk about his research.
It's more fun when we do quit spiracy. Yeah. But
he's got a new book out. It's called Astral Experiences.
We'll be talking about that on Thursday night. Hey, that's
what I should do. I said, just surprise him. He
thinks he's gonna come on and promote his book. No,

(03:09):
I'm bringing him on and we'll do a quit Spiracy.
We'll see how good he really is. Yeah, all right,
I've got three major events coming up I do in
ten short days. Contact in the Desert, May twenty ninth
through June second, right here in Palm Springs, California. Then
I head down to South America with Brian Forrester to
Peru for the INCA Celebration of the Sun. This tour

(03:31):
sold out. Next tour is in November. You can click
on the links below. I come back from that for
the SI Games August first through the third, twenty twenty
five in Charlottesville, Viginia, Viginia.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I do have.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm gonna look closer at this to see if I
can pull it off. But I've been invited to host
another conference in Texas, and yeah, I'm trying to get
that worked into the schedule in the second half of
the year. And I've got a few other things that

(04:09):
we're going to be announcing over the next few weeks.
I'll keep all of you posted. Also, the Monty Python
grail Quest Tour next year in Scotland has officially been
announced and the links for that are below. It is
in August of twenty twenty six. But I'm going to

(04:30):
be hosting this along with Haley. I'm going to host
this and we are going to go to the locations
that were shot in the film, the different castles we're
going to go to the bridge. Yeah, we are going
to go to the bridge. We're going to do a
few other things and all in search for the Holy Grail.

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So the links for that are below. This is going
to sell up very very quickly, and it's already on
its way to doing that. So if you would like
to go with this next year. I know it's twenty
twenty six, but it's Scotland and you've got to make plans.
And also a little extra added treat I'm gonna have
some family members of mine that will be attending this tour.

(05:13):
So if you want to meet some of my family,
which I keep secret, I'm not even gonna say who
it is. I'll want you guys to bother them. But
if you want to go and find out what I
was like in the fourth grade, if I was this dude,
if I was this guy, I was right Okay. So anyway,

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the links for that are below. Before I bring Dana in,
I do want to announce a sad day today. George Went,
who played Norm on Cheers, has departed this beautiful blue
gem today at the age of seventy six years old.
George famously said over the years that he felt like

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he was stealing money when they paid him for the show,
because he had so much fun doing it, and that's
how life should be. So rest in peace, George. A
great run on Cheers and everybody knew your name. Yep,
George went passed away today at the age of seventy six.
All right, all right, So with that, let's get the

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show started. And the show was called I titled it
after Dana's book, which is this is going to sound weird.
We are going to go through everything with her tonight,
her journey, the paranormal stuff, and then of course discovering

(06:44):
a classified file linking her father to NASA. Now, everything
that is around that and the story that came out
of that is going to sound pretty weird. And we
are going to do all of that tonight. And she's
coming to us live, by the way, her links are below,
over on our website and throughout social media. She's coming

(07:06):
to us live from Minnesota. Dana, good evening, How you doing.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah? We got you?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Okay, awesome? Yeah. The Rabbit of Kerba, Yes, yes, big
big teeth, big teeth.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
So there is I don't want to that is one
of the things that I wanted to make sure that
we did on the tour was go to the cave.
So there are a few surprises on this tour, and
that may be one of them. But uh yeah yeah
a rabbit, ah huge teeth. Oh man, that is one

(07:48):
of the runaway that is one of the best best.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing we're doing all of that.
I cannot you know. Here's the thing. Here's the thing
with the tour like that, when how many people on
the tour are going to go, uh to that castle,

(08:09):
look to the top and start quoting the French dude? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. They're all great link or they're great quotes.
But we've already got one what he says, he's already

(08:29):
got all right. So anyway, yeah, it's gonna be great
just just going around the country and and seeing all
of these things. I wanted to build a giant wooden rabbit.
I don't think we're gonna pull that part off, so
it was my idea. We'll we'll see, we'll see. Welcome
to the show. Now, before we get started, you get

(08:50):
the first time guest disclaimer, So let's get that out
of the way, which is this, Dana. It's just you
and I sitting on my couch having a conversation as friends,
and where the conversation starts and starts where it ends
and ends. But we're going to end as friends. Now
you have to accept so we can move on. Yeah, okay,

(09:12):
good good man.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
We're kindred. Spirit. Yeah, spirit made me nervous quoted Oh no, no, well,
I'm just listening. I don't know. I'm in a state
of shock. I'm still thinking because I actually quoted Monty
Python in my book. So I'm like, dude, you are
in my heart. It's like, you know, I wrote about myself,
but there was a certain point of time in my

(09:35):
book that I wanted to give tools and things for
other people. Like my book, I wanted to be more
like a guide or whatever. La la la. Anyway, but
I did this Monty Python things. So I'm kind of like,
how do I transition from about me to giving people
energy things to do?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I can't even think, wait, wait, wait, so many Python
was the vehicle to do that?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yes, because I'm like, and now for something completely different,
the larch, the larch, if you're really a python or
the larch, And that cracked me up and so I
don't care, like I don't care, I really because this
is for my descendants and people who love me, and
it's also for the world. But like, the people who

(10:22):
get me are going to get this, And how do
you transition from all about me to you know, other
things and energy work and all that kind of stuff.
So I'm like, well, completely different.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well the title of the book I think is perfect,
by the way, thank you, And but what else I
don't know. But I totally get it. I totally get it.
And Monty Python, let's I mean, for those that got
a taste of Monty Python in our youth, that's all
you needed because you took the bait Monty Python. But

(10:59):
those that didn't take the bait, they have no idea
what we're talking about. They just don't. But Monty Python.
And then it was a life of Brian right, it
was the Holy Grail. It was the TV show and
it it It just showed us what humor and laughing

(11:19):
meant meant to life and how you looked at the world.
And I got it. I'd learned. Okay, here's the other thing.
And then then we'll move on Monty Python and the
Holy Grail is historically accurate. I learned more about King

(11:41):
Arthur from that, I mean the Battle of Baden Hill.
Who knew, right, but but you're taught that, you know
what I mean? And yeah, and it was just historically accurate.
Everything that I've learned about King Arthur after that I
would always reference back. Yeah, okay, it sounds right because
it was in Holy Grail too, so yeah, yeah, what

(12:05):
a great way to teach kids, and including Life of Brian.
I learned more about the Baby Jesus from that movie
than any Bible study that I went through as a kid. Yeah. Yeah,
Life of Brian so good. Anyway, So this, yeah, this

(12:29):
this show tonight, and this conversation is going to be
very interesting because i have a lot of things that
I've shared with me personally that I've gone through over
the years. And I've also on this show and on
Coast to Coast, I've taken a lot of phone calls,
and I've interviewed a lot of people, and I've had

(12:50):
the weird phone calls come in and people sharing their
experiences and and I've always given everybody a platform to
just do your thing because I've got crazy stuff that
i want people to at least listen, you know, and
and and that's that's what this show is about. And

(13:13):
I cannot I cannot wait to get into this conversation
because your story, your book has got a little bit
of everything in it. So let's let's start. Let's start
with the basics, and then we'll get through all of this.
Your childhood, was it normal, did it have paranormal and

(13:34):
strange things going on? Or was there something that happened
that turned things around?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
No, this started in the crib. I was an infant,
like in my diapers when the Grays first started to
visit me. You know, I'm just gonna kind of put
a lot of things in a nutshell because it's just
so much. Yeah. So I was just in the crib
and they started to visit me, and then it was
like a regular occurrent at least once a month or

(14:01):
something like that, and I I compartmentalized it. If that
that's a psychological accuracy of like, how how is it?
I don't, I don't. I don't know how to tell
you this. But I was an infant. I knew I
couldn't walk. I you know, it was a defining moment

(14:23):
because in the window was this gray head looked like
a balloon, you know. The window shades rolled up. That
startled me. That's what woke me up. There was a
light flashing around, there was humming and vibration, you know.
They they had that frequency that they had to be
in these particular grays. And for me, I'm just gonna

(14:44):
say grays is kind of like saying dog because a
lot of people have different depictions, you know, and maybe
they softened themselves, maybe they shape shifted because I was
an infant, but anyway, just imagine yourself as a grown
adult and something startles you in the window, and then
the next thing you know, they're in your room and
they're over your bed, and then you don't know what's

(15:06):
gonna happen. It's almost like a surgical thing or something,
you know, like a surgical unit, but you don't know
why you're there, why they're there, and then you're knocked out.
So this was kind of what kept happening. And then
when I started to walk, I remember walking around. I
have humor now, but because I'm not dead, they didn't
kill me or anything. But anyway, I was walking around.

(15:30):
I remember showing them the house like I was a
real estate agent. Or something like that, like this is
the kitchen and everything. And this went on for a
good ten years, just quickly. I'll say, many times I
didn't know that they arrived or visited me, but every
time after they visited me, I would have I would

(15:52):
be changed, like I would have different abilities, let's just
say energetic abilities, capabilities. And I thought it was cool
as a child, like wow, I can do these things.
And then it would kind of fade away, you know,
it would go away, but it was really strong, like
right after the visitations. My sister noticed that. And I'm

(16:13):
just going to say, even before I wrote the book,
I ran into the little neighbor girl who lived behind me,
and we met up, and for whatever reason, I started
to blurb about the aliens. And I'm like, oh my god,
she's gonna think I'm nuts. You know, why are you
saying this. She's just a normal person. And she stopped
me in the middle of it. You know, this is

(16:34):
sixty years later, and she's like, Dana, I remember the
humming and the vibrations, so she remembers the events happening,
and then we kind of remembered that we did talk
about it as very small children, so that was a
great confirmation for me, and throughout my life had many
many confirmations. And I always said to God, like, you know,

(16:55):
what's with all the witnesses and all these things informations
and the voice. I don't know what you want to
call the voice, God, a higher power, a guide, you know,
whatever you want to call it. It was just this communication.
And it said because Danny, you wouldn't believe it yourself
and I don't, and you wouldn't remember it, but these

(17:17):
people are here to remind you of what happened. And anyway,
so that's kind of that. So when I was eight
years old, to back it all up, you know, I
think that was about the time, you know, you're starting
to get a little bit older. And these particular grades,

(17:37):
I just have to say they were at night, but
I met one troop during the day. And it wasn't
until I was writing my book. Now I was probably
four years old when this happened, and it wasn't until
I was writing my book that I realized that when
I met this troop during the day in the woods,

(18:00):
all of a sudden, I was like, you know, well, Dana,
the voice is talking to me. What property were you on?
And I realized that it was my dad's bosses yard.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I know, I'm like, are you serious? I know, and
I kind of forgot that, you know, I just kind
of forget and I forget. And let me tell you
this whole life, this whole planet is about forgetting right,
Like we're born without knowing who we are and how
we are and all these kinds of things, and hopefully
we can remind each other and remember, you know, and
wake up anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So when I was eight, well let me let me
jump you know what, I this is a good point
to remind everybody. And I suggest this as often as
I can. We forget nearly everything, and when something strange happened,
we put it in a box, put it on the shelf,
and move on. Because life gets in the way and

(18:53):
you just kind of forget about it. So as an adult,
take the opportunity to just go back and unpack something
that you didn't think was a big deal and go
and revisit that. Just go and do it. It's exactly
if you hadn't done that, right, And I think everybody

(19:16):
has got moments in their lives, especially when you're younger.
You do this as an adult too as well. But
you just pack it away, put it on the shelf,
and then next thing, you know, a week goes by,
a month goes by, a year goes by, and it's gone.
Go and rip that page out of the book and
read it again.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
That that is completely, completely true. And I also wrote
about that it was like a balloon string. I kept
forgetting that the aliens even visited me, and the voice
kept saying, you need to remember. Remember when you remember,
you know, because it was just like a balloon string.
It would just float away. But something kept telling me

(19:57):
to remember this.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I think it was setting me up for it today.
But this is very true, and I guarantee you so
many people don't remember, and maybe they really really don't remember,
because like I said earlier, there were many times I
didn't remember being visited. But there might be glitches. After
my book came out, some things happened. I'm not going

(20:21):
to get into all of that. But then all of
a sudden I was reminded about certain things that happened.
I'm like, oh my god, it's like it's there, but
it's like you can't bring up that catalog, that page
or something like that. It's there, but you're not bringing
it up. You can't consciously remember it. So I'm just
going to say what's happened to me. It's been a lot,

(20:44):
But I think I'm here to speak to others, you know.
I'm at a point in my life where I can
bring up my voice and I can say these things,
and I'm here to encourage other people to bring up
their voices and to be reminded and to remember, because
the more we remember and the more we speak out,
you know, in so many ways, they can't stop us,

(21:05):
and they can't shut us up, and they can't keep
gaslighting us, because that's the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's so true. It's so true. I have
a period. And then we'll move on back to you.
But I have a period in my life. It's really strange.
It lasted for about a year. I was in the
fourth grade, so I was eight years old or something,
eight or nine, where in this apartment in Chicago, lived

(21:33):
with my mom and like five brothers and sisters in
this little three bedroom apartment. I do not remember sleeping
in my bed, not even once. I don't I remember
spending the night at my neighbor's house. John I remember
all of that. Remember as far as my bedroom goes,

(21:56):
I can't even tell you. We had two sets of
bunk beds in there. I don't even know what bed was.
I don't remember. I don't not even it's straight. And
right after that, I went to go live with my dad.
My parents were divorced. I go to live with my dad.
From that point on in my life, I remember everything.
I remember everything, but that that one year. No, it's crazy.

(22:18):
Now do I want to know? I kind of don't.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
I kind of don't.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
On that.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, what what did?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Let me ask you a question before we move on.
You said that most of the visits were at night,
and then you had a daytime visit outside in the
woods at which was later your dad's boss's house. What
did they look like? And were they clothed? And when
you saw them in the forest or in the woods,

(22:49):
were they clothed, were they wearing anything? What did they
look like?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Okay, so I've met many different entities and I've only
seen one that had a black Fido, and that was
when I was That was probably twenty years ago. That
was more recent. They took my DNA. That's a whole
nother story.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
These guys.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Okay, So to be fair, the grace that visited me
when I was in my crib or when I was,
you know, a little bit older, I didn't really see
their full bodies and just kind of like if you
and I were walking around, I'm not really checking you out.
I'm kind of like looking at your face more. I
would say they did not have clothing, but they could

(23:31):
have had a full suit. There would be nothing that
would stick out as like a shirt and pants or
something like that wasn't notable. Now the ones in the daytime,
I felt that they were taller. I don't know how
to explain that to you. I felt the ones in
the house were shorter and the ones uh in the daytime,

(23:55):
and that I only recalled the one time and I
was tagged that day when they during that encounter, I
was tagged on my buttocks. And I've also had a
chip come out of the back of my neck that
was witnessed by somebody, the chip when it came out,
and stuff like that. Anyway, so those during the day
were kind of like I feel that the grays need

(24:18):
to be in a certain frequency, kind of like how
fish need to be in water or something. Like that,
I feel like, and they describe in ancient texts like
the sky gods or something like fire and air or something.
I think that's their way of describing the frequency that
they're in. Now, this is my experiences, and this is

(24:40):
my explanation of it. Is it true that they have
to be in this frequency? I am not sure and
I can't say. All I know is that whenever I
was with them, they were in this frequency, and this
has happened on other realms and other things of this
vibrational thing.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Were they in focus?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
No, And so that's the thing. I could kind of
see them. I could, and you know, my memory is
kind of like, oh, I see you, I see you,
but I couldn't. But they were very playful with me.
The ones in the woods, I think they were. All
these grays were all kind of very playful, which maybe
why I wasn't so frightened. I don't know. I know

(25:24):
I was frightened. The first time that I saw them,
when I was in my crib, I was kind of
in a state of shock, like what the heck? Because
I knew even being just a baby like me not.
I can't tell you how many months old I was,
but I was head diapers. I couldn't stand, I couldn't walk.
I just knew it was wrong, like they aren't from here,

(25:44):
they're not normal, because I wasn't being shown whatever the heck.
These creatures were during the day, and it's suspicious they're
coming at night. My parents aren't here. There's no introduction.
It doesn't seem very happy, you know. I don't know.
But anyway, the guys in the woods were very playful,
and because I was down by the water, and then
they booped me up into the woods. My friends were

(26:07):
down by the water. We were all by the lake
and then boop, I'm up in the woods and like
uh and then boop, I was back down by the water.
That's when my buttocks started to hurt. So I knew
that that's when they taked me. But I kept being like,
come out and play, kind of like that little kid
in Close Encounters. You know, what was the little boy's name.

(26:28):
He's like toys, toys. I was like that old and
that's kind of how my whole thing was, like play
with us, like come on, you know, where are you
come out? You know, I want my friends to see you,
Like why can't we get along? And all this kind
of stuff. And then I walked up the woods a
little bit and they were gone, and I kind of
knew that they were going to be gone. But my

(26:49):
rear end hurt. So playtime was done for me. So
I ran home and I went and examined myself in
the mirror too, because I like, what the heck I
got hurt than.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Any of the kid's name. The kid's name was Barry.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, Berry bear Berry.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know that was that scene, that scene when that
was in Indiana, right, And so she's out in the
cornfield and she's yelling for him. I cried. I cried
like a little baby.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Well, very yeah, Well I related to it because Barry
was me, you know what I mean, Barry was me,
And that's the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
I I'm jocular about it because I'm okay, you know,
blah blah blah blah, what else are you going to do?
Laughter is the best medicine, blah blah blah blah. And
I do feel like there was some kind of a hey,
you know, I just remember during the daytime that one
and I'm telling you, I was like Barry's age. I
was a little I was a little kitttle, you know,

(27:53):
and you know, I was like, Hey, come on, meet
my other friends. You know, my other friends.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know, I wanna let me say, this black speedo
would scare the crap out of me. That's terrifying. That's
a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a
nightmare on any day.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
You want to see him?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, No, not really, I'll take that to bet.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
No. Yeah, that was later, but I do. Okay, So
after so here's this transition. I'm going to explain a
transitional point. And this involves the president. This gets in
the shadow government stuff and I got receipts. But anyway,
so I think it was handed off. I was done
with grays and then the guy with the black speedo
who was like very very skinny. Now remember Close Encounters, Yeah,

(28:44):
same one, okay with the guy in the bay door.
And then this tall skinny guy. First there's like all.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
These spider arms.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, yes, okay, if you notice in Hollywood many many times,
you're gonna see that guy in different movies and a
different depictions. Basically that's who I encountered, although this guy
that I encountered was more human size kind of a thing.
His hips were about this big around, tiny but very skinny.

(29:11):
And when I saw him, I was like, oh my god,
I remember you. I mean, now I'm seeing you, and
now I'm actually remembering you. Because when this transition happened,
out of the grays, I think this guy or gang
took over. And I remember being in like third or
fourth grade and I would make like the stick guy,
you know how. We would play hangman because, like I'm

(29:31):
in a particular age, we didn't have much for entertainment.
We didn't have iPads and all that kind of stuff anyway,
so we played a hangman or something. But I would
make a balloon head and then a body with like
squirrely arms and legs, and I didn't know why. I
would make this drawing and then I would sit back
and laugh and rock and I when I did it,

(29:54):
I'm like, why are you sitting back rocking and laughing?
And I knew it was a trauma response, Like I
was cognizant of everything that I was doing and why,
but I wasn't when I made the drawings. At that time,
I didn't know it was another alien. But then as
an adult, I was probably in my forties and I'm like,
oh snap, I know who you are and I know why,

(30:16):
like everything came rushing back.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Okay, so what ye what year did this take place.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
With the with the speedo guy?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, well just transition, well just in general, because you
have four to eight years old, then you have the
time after that. Then you have the speedo guy at
your dad's house. Yeah, your dad's boss's house. What year?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
No? No, no, no, no, no no. Okay, So the
when I'm at the the yard with the up in
the woods, when I'm being I'm three years old, I'm
still living at home. I'm three years old. I'm a
little kid. The speedo guy I'm forty. I'm at you know,
I'm grown up here, a married woman with children. And
my husband was in bed sleeping.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Next to me.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
That whole thing. So, aliens have visited me, Angels have
visited me, Ghosts have visited me. I have a plethora
of the supernatural and the paranormal, you name it.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
You look you don't look that old.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I'm sixty three? What yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
What bullshit?

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Noh am, you're older than me.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, you look like everybody. Are you buying this story now? Okay,
so you gotta so apparently apparently ET has frozen your age.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh I don't know, Okay, no, okay, I'm just gonna
say when I was young, this is weird. I am weird, Okay,
So I don't know. But when I was young, like sixteen,
I looked like I was probably twenty five. You know,
I look more adult because I was precocious. Okay, understand
that by the time I was in third grade, I
was almost as tall as I am now I'm five

(31:59):
foot eight. You know I was precocious. It's a whole
long story. I was saved for mon talk. You know.
It gets deep. And that's not even in my book,
that whole thing that might be different.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
My producer John, my producer John said I didn't believe
she was forty. I'm with you on that. I was
even buying the forty crap. That's why I was like,
how old were you?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
What year?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
And now you're telling me you're sixty three?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Me? Yeah, here's me a little bliss is me?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Little crazy?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh my god, here's me. I'm probably I'm fifteen back
in the seventies. Hey, if you notice this, I've got
like the remember the you probably are too. You have
bib overalls and you'd have like one hanging down. Oh
my gosh, wait about here we go. Here's sorry, buddy,
here's me and my Now this picture isn't epically old.

(32:51):
I don't know what is me and my sister. Oh
so I looked old when I was young, and then
I got curded for a million years. My kids are
thirty and thirty three. Blah blah blah blah blah. But
I got proof right here.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
So here this show you.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Okay, I give this was good lighting and castor oil
and blady blo. But anyway, good lighting, long hair, I mean,
because seriously, if I put my hair up, I could
look on all right. So I don't know if you
can read this.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Okay, pull it back just a little bit. They're right there. Okay,
got it. Presidential visit nineteen What does that say?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Seventy October Holy So down here. My dad wrote my name,
but I've put my name a sticker over it because
I don't reveal my last name ever, so just to
protect my family for a lot of reasons, because the
government is involved in my story. So here, I am

(33:53):
special guest.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
October twenty ninth, nineteen seventy Rochester, Minnesota, and this is
in the news. I was interviewed by KSTP and you
know all the radio stations stuff. So anyway, my parents
took me out of school and brought me to the
Rochester Airport, not the Minneapolis. See, I grew up in Fridley,

(34:17):
so it's Fridley and the Minneapolis are to port. But Rochester's,
you know, the Mayo Clinic down south. So I remember
the day. I remember. I have a really good memory,
So I remember getting there, parking, getting the name takes
and then we went out to the tarmac and we're
sitting around and like tall, you know whatever. But I'm

(34:39):
the only kid there. My sister's seven years older. She
was with But anyway, so I was sitting there for
a while and I see the media is there, and
up rolls Air Force One and the doors opened, all
pops Richard Nixon and Pat Nixon, and she walks up
to me and hands me along stem Red Rose. And

(35:03):
I didn't think anything of it until I'm writing my
book and all of a sudden, you know, like I'm
thinking back. I'm remembering the whole thing with my dad's bosses,
backyard and all that kind of stuff. And then I'm
like Diana when she handed you that red rose, that's
sub rosa. I mean, you know, she's handing you this row. Anyway,

(35:28):
So while I'm going through all of this and my
mind is spinning and I'm writing my book and literally
I'm like, oh, I don't you know. I'm I'm trying
to integrate all these things, these new memories, because they're
coming flooding back. Which we talked about earlier, like five
minutes ago, about the balloon string. You know, it's all
right there, but you kind of forget about it. I

(35:50):
I you know, I had forgotten this and I didn't
understand my whole life the importance of it. But the
voice said to me, go look up the presidential diear
like what and they're like, yeah, there's a presidential diary.
I'm like, okay, presidential diary. And so I had the
name take and the voice told me back in the day,
keep this name take. You need this name take. I'm like, okay,

(36:12):
I'm eight years old. I've kept this name take all
these flipping years. So I have the name Take blah
blah blah. Anyway, so I look up at the presidential
diary and it's I printed it up. It's right here
and you can go to my website or whatever. This
is the the manifest for the flight. This is the

(36:33):
flight actual flight man fest for the day. Because it
was a junket, they went to a couple of places.
So the President's come, they're coming, and there's like thirty
some people on this and there's Haldeman and all these
you know, classic names. Anyway, everybody's listed on there, right, Secretaries, blah,
blahah blah. Pat Nixon is not on the manifest for

(36:56):
that day, which I thought was super cool. Is like, okay,
so if the plane went down, they're not going to
look for Pat Nicks and she's not on the flight manisbest.
She's not listed. She's not a person on the flight.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
And this is the woman who's handing me a red rose,
right right right. I mean, I don't know about you,
but I find it very interesting.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, that's cool, that's cool. That's cool.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah I thought so. I kind of thought so. But yeah,
so here, oh go.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Ahead, Well, before we get to the break, I want
to set up, uh, well, what there's a lot of
stages to your life, and I want to get to
the paranormal stuff too, as well, but oh my god,
let's get let's get to your dad. Yeah. Did you
know what your dad did as a job.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Oh well, we thought, you know, he worked for you know,
he worked for various he was an electrical engineer. We thought,
you know, he worked for like Spare, Univac and Honeywell
and all that kind of stuff. But I always said
to my sister, I was traded for alien technology. Now,
I'm telling you, this is before the Internet or books
or any other person said anything. I knew I was swapped.

(38:13):
What so my dad? I knew I was swapped. I
knew I was swapped.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
He walked.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
I was swapped. I was swapped for alien technology of information,
okay information. So so at my dad's funeral in twenty ten,
a man came up to me and my sister and
he said, I don't know why they fired your dad.
And my dad always said he quit his job. And

(38:40):
that's a whole long story. And I think my dad
quit his job or he got fired because they were
slaving me from Montalk, okay. And my Dad's like, no,
you've done all this stuff with the aliens. No to Montalk.
And then that's what brought me into the superspace program.
But that's a whole nother long story. But anyway, so yeah,
so this man's I don't know why they fired your

(39:01):
dad because he was a genius. He changed the supercomputer.
And in this file that I got, which you mentioned earlier,
I didn't know what this was. So here's this picture.
And I went to like a mof on meeting and
I asked all the old farts there. I'm like, hey,
isn't a better know what this is? And I'm like, yeah,
that's part of the supercomputer. And I'm like, well, apparently
my dad transformed it. We thought he just worked for

(39:23):
spirit uniback. But when I got this file. In this
file there were classified papers that say classified and that
my dad had been working and talking and whatever with NASA.
And then I posted something just because I listened to
that voice, and the voice is like, take a picture
of this classified paper and post it to Facebook. I'm like, okay,

(39:45):
I just obey. So I did it. And then these
other men go, oh my god, your dad was that right, Patterson.
I'm like, oh, I don't know, because I didn't even
read what the class what I took a picture of.
I just did what I was instructed to do. So
I took this picture I posted on Facebook and they're like,
oh my god, your dad was reverse engineering the roswell
craft because they had him in Texas. We my family,

(40:09):
we had no idea that my dad was working with NASA,
and here was this file that came to me. My
dad died in twenty ten. My book came out in
twenty twenty three, and a couple months later, after I
did a mof on talk, this mysterious man from out
of the Blue was like, hey, he was full of baloney. Okay,

(40:29):
And I say baloney because I you know, I don't
know your tolerance for swearing, because I swear like a sailor.
So I say baloney, boloney, sandwich to keep it g Anyway,
So he came up with this blooney story of how
he found this file behind a drawer in the desk.
I'm going to show you. I mean, I don't know
about you, but my kids, you know, like three months later,

(40:52):
you know, like in their dressers or a desk you're
collecting felt, you know what I mean, there's dust. This
thing is pristine. I had been praying. I was praying
to God a couple months earlier saying, God, I wish
I had pictures of my dad with Hubert Humphrey. My
dad was a Republican, Hubert Humphrey was a Democrat, but
for whatever reason they were friends and knew each other

(41:15):
and all this kind of stuff like that's kind of
weird too, And sure enough in this file, you know,
Hubert Humphrey, Hubert Humphrey, Hubert home free.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
And I prayed for that, and fifteen years after my
dad died, here it comes. I mean, if you don't
believe in God, I don't know I do. But anyway,
so yeah, it's just crazy. It blows my mind. It
blows my mind. I mean, I'm just enjoying things. I'm
sitting back and.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, what's your WoT? Okay, as you went through the file,
was your father's name in the file?

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Oh yeah, I mean these papers are classified papers from
the mill Terry and then yeah, and like I'm like, okay,
here it is. It says NASA, and then the whole
Right Path thing and then ASQC, which is like an
electrical engineering group that my dad was with, and all
this there was just a lot of enlightenment about what
he was doing and what he was up to This

(42:18):
file goes from nineteen sixty to two thousand and eight. Wow,
and this guy found it in the back of a
drawer of a desk that he's had for thirty years.
And somebody said to me, like, well didn't you bust him?
Like why didn't you say? Oh, dude, la la la,
And I'm like, no, I wanted to hear his boloney story.
I wanted to hear it because I know he's full

(42:40):
of crap. I know that he knows that. I know
that he knows that. I know that he knows, but
I'm allowing him because if I bust him on it.
I wasn't sure what would happen. I mean, he probably
neuralized me boop. He probably neuralized me. I'd be like,
I was just at the Mall of America and I
would you know, and he would take the file way
and I'd be like, oh, honey, I went shopping and

(43:03):
got some shoes, and my husband be like, I thought
you were going to meet somebody. Oh I wasn't meeting
you know what I mean, Yes, I'm not messing with
these people.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
This is this is amazing. And you said earlier, you
know you've got the receipts. When it comes to things
like this and the story itself, I'm going to say this,
it's entertaining at the very least, But when you back
it up right where you've got this other stuff, that's

(43:35):
where a lot of people you don't necessarily want confirmation
because that proves to you that the conspiracy is real.
And for most people, you can't handle that. You can't
you'd rather not have the proof. But but now you've
got this, and your dad's name is in it, give

(43:56):
us a few examples of what he was working on.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Oh well, you know, I like rockets, rockets and stuff.
But you have to understand. And he was with the
Defense Department, okay, and mahaps, I mean just being with

(44:23):
Honeywell or Univac. You kind of figure. But I thought
he was working on computers. And then here's the Defense Department.
He's walking on rockets and ordinances and all this kind
of stuff. And then my sister, who was a dental,
uh dental. She wasn't even a hygienist, She's just this
dental worker. She got a job as an engineer. They
just gave it tour and stuff like all these weird
things were happening, you know, So you have to understand

(44:46):
a lot of these things, like the ASQC file or papers.
If you go to my website or some of my
Facebook stuff, you know, you read it and it talks
like he's giving a talk and all that kind of stuff,
that's all code because they're not going to put it. Now.
The classified papers are one thing, but the other things
like because it says what program he's on, and I'm sorry,
I like, I don't like you could go and read

(45:08):
it because I took it. I posted it, but because
like I can't retain all that stuff. But anyway, so
a lot of this is code because they're not going
to say he was doing this or that. It's just
other people who are more knowledgeable researchers and stuff like that.
I'm not a researcher. I just happened upon all this stuff.

(45:29):
This came out of the blue for me. I'm still
trying to comprehend it. My husband, who thinks I'm the biggest,
probably wha I could do. I never told him about
all this, Like when I was dating. You think I'm
going to tell him about angels and ghosts and the
secret government and all that and UFOs no way, no,
so but you know, the book came out, he's not
read it. I don't want him to read it. And

(45:51):
then when the file came, I mean he sat there,
he had a moment like somebody shot his dog, you know,
because it's like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
You don't want confirmation. You don't want confirmation. That's exactly
my point.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah I did, though, I did because it made me
feel like to my sister and brother who thought like
I'm loony, and my friends and everybody, they know me
and they believe me because they've witnessed a lot of things.
And my sister has two my sister but my brother whatever.
But for them to be like, you know, like I'm
the little sister and they're always down playing me, like Mary,

(46:26):
I'm not. But now here, I'm like, oh, here's Dad
at NASA. Okay, now what okay? People like, how am
I making this up? This shit's okay, it's real, you know.
How can I make up pictures? How can I make
up pictures of you? Or how are you guys? You're
in these pictures too, you know, And they know that
this is the real deal. And they took like my

(46:48):
dad's Christmas card list, they took weird stuff. It's like
they were swiping stuff off his desk. So what I'm
gonna say to you is this man I don't know
what alphabet, three letter alphabet he was with, CIA, FBI,
element OP. I don't even know. I don't even know
if he's a whole human. He could be a high bride.
Because one one was like, weren't you afraid? I don't

(47:10):
think he was fully human. I'm like, dude, I've met
so many aliens I don't even whatever.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's so.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
There's so much to talk about here. What about the
rest of the family. What about your mom?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Have you talked to her? God, but you talked to
her for fifteen years, But you talked to her about
this at some point, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
No? No, your brothers, no, No, not my brother Nope. Okay.
I talked to my brother when I was probably about
seven years old, and I said, do you believe on
life on another planet? And he said, you're nuts? You
think there's life on another planet. This is back in
the sixties. Okay, So that ended that conversation. My sister
saw that I was changed, Remember like when the aliens

(47:57):
had come because I could change things. I would manipulate
electrical equipment and stuff like that or do things.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
So she saw it.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
She hated it, but she saw that I was changed,
so she can't deny that. But I never talked to
my parents until they were dying. And I'm going to
tell you, I'm sure my dad was neuralized. I have
a you know, I don't think if he consciously remembered
or knew any of it. He went to his deathbed

(48:26):
without saying because I said to them, have you ever
seen a UFO or an alien? And They're both like no, no, no,
you know. And they were in their eighties and they
didn't live long much after that, and I mean, what
am I going to do? I just let it go.
I never talked to my family. I never said, oh,
aliens were here last night. I compartmentalized it. I just

(48:48):
took it. This stuff happened to me, and I'd wake
up the next morning and try to go on and
be a normal human being. And I knew that I
wasn't for a lot of reasons, but I had. I
just desperately wanted to be normal, so I just tried
to continue with a normal life.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
And your mom was able to keep your mom was
able to keep all of this away. You know she
didn't know, No, she knew, mom snow everything.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
No, no, no, no, I don't think she knew my
dad was with NASA. She didn't know anything about the aliens.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
They talk about when the bedroom door is closed.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
This is the sixties. Yeah, no, you don't talk about things.
I guarantee. I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this.
My dad talked to me. My dad talked to me
about his military experiences. We had black ops, guys getting
snookered to keep things pug in the backyard. And I
would be the little I would be this little girl

(49:48):
with a bunch of grown men and they'd be getting drunk,
and it be me and a bunch of girl men
getting drunk, and they'd be drinking beer, talking military stuff.
And I've had military people disclosed to me the worst
things that you can ever imagine to a little blonde girl.
Why are they saying these things? I mean, just just peculiar.

(50:11):
But that was my life, you know, And I just
kind of took it. I always just took it, and
I shut up about it. I can keep a good secret,
you know what I mean? And I'm going to tell you,
this man who gave me this file brings me hope,
brings me hope for me, brings me hope for you.
It brings me hope for this audience, brings me hope
for this planet. Of that makes me want to cry

(50:34):
that there are people out there that are fighting for us,
because there are people that are fighting against us. And
this is why I'm here, and this is why I'm
speaking up. I don't make any money, this is my passion.
I'm trying to sound the alarm of like, hey, everybody,
we've been gaslet you know, time to wake up, wake
up campers. Zip zip zip. But there's people in the government,

(50:57):
in the shadow side want to keep us human, that
want the best for us, that don't want us to
become AI slaves or the slaves that the slavery that
we've been under, you know what I mean. So when
I got the file, I felt very confirmed and I
was I mean, I mean, I basically cried because I'm like,

(51:21):
there's hope. There's the good guys, the white hats and
the black hats. And I've worked with the white hats
and you know, the Space program and stuff like that,
because I've been on that. I think my dad saved
me from montac and then the next thing, you know,
and that's a whole nother story. And that's a little
bit of the book about being in the Super Space
program and that stuff is real, and they bring kids

(51:43):
into it because kids are smart and kids can do it,
and kids don't ask questions, and kids don't know what
they're doing, you know what I mean, They just do
as they're told, right, And that's kind of who and
how I've always been.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
And this was all just really quick. This is all
in Minnesota. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Oh, and you don't even Minnesota. Who Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
What besides, well, you got Paisley Park, A lot of
crazy stuff went down.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
No, No, we have a lot of ordinances here. We
have you know, you got three you know, Minnesota Mining
and Manufacturing. You had the Ford Motor Plan. We have
this place over here called the TCAAP, which is the
Twin Seas Army Armory Defense where they're making ordinances and
stuff like that, and they have tunnels underneath their people.
And my sister would go there and deliver ordinance papers,

(52:39):
secret papers, and I told her, I'm like, there's got
to you know, like at one point. I'm like, there's
you know, I'm like, there's gotta be aliens over there.
And then she'd like one day, she's like, la la la.
So I went down into the basement and I'm like,
wait a minute or show. She said, I'm sorry, I
took the elevator, and I'm like, these buildings are one story,

(53:01):
maybe two stories. Why would they have an elevator? Oh,
I answered my own question. I'm like, is that for
like some of the military guys that might be disabled.
And she goes no, into the basement and I'm like, dude,
the basement. I'm like, how many levels are on this elevator.

(53:22):
She's like, I don't know, about four or five. I'm like, well,
and you went down there and I'm like, what's down there?
She's like, oh, offices and tunnels, Like they've got bicycles
and golf carts. And that's a whole nother story. I mean,
you know, all the tunnels and all that kind of stuff.
And Minnesota a lot of alien activity, a lot of

(53:44):
UFO activity, especially back in the sixties and seventies, because
I think I think they were nervous about what was
going on, you know, because this is where we were,
you know, manufacturing it, you know, back to this and like,
who what you know what? Maybe they were worried, what
is this computer going to do? What are the what
are these idiots up to?

Speaker 3 (54:05):
These did did the guy okay, the guy that gave
you this file?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Did he work with your dad?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Oh? Thank you for bringing it up, because that's the thing. Okay,
here's the thing. His story, right. I found this file
in the back of a desk that I bought from.
I don't remember if you said it was Univac or
some I can't remember. I wrote it down which company,
but one of these companies like Honeywell, Univac, Sperry blah

(54:37):
bah blah blah, bought it thirty years ago. Well the
file ended in two thousand and eight. And anyway, the
guy kept saying, I wish I knew your dad. I
wish I worked with your dad. And like, dude, you
found a file. What do you know about my dad?
Why would you wish you worked with him? Why do
you wish you knew him? So I said, oh, we

(55:00):
are you in an electrical engineer? Like that would make sense?
And he goes, no, I was it, And that kind
of blew my mind because it guys aren't stupid. That
doesn't make it his bologney sandwich so much more delicious
because I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure you're probably pretty
good with your dates and all that kind of stuff,

(55:20):
And why are you saying you wish you knew my dad?
You found a folder of a random person, right, yeah?
It wasn't random. Yeah. And then he was like, so
when I went to his house, which he was very
specific about what time I could be there or not
be there and all this kind of stuff. And as
I before I went, I'm like, well, you know, I

(55:42):
should give him a thank you for keeping this file
and giving it to me. What could I do for him?
I'm like chocolate, I'm like, what's a dude? I'm like wine.
I don't know, does a guy even drink. I'm not
gonna give him whiney. Might be a whiskey guy. Oh,
I'm not spending money on whiskey, you know. And I'm
leaving because it was very like come now basically kind
of a thing. So I'm go, well, all I have

(56:04):
is my book. So I brought the book and I'm like,
I don't know what to give you as a thank
you but here, I hope you can accept this. Thank
you so much. You'll learn more about my dad that
you wanted to meet anyway. And he's like, think you
you know, like come back and sign it one day,

(56:27):
you know, blah blah blah. And I'm like, well, I'll
just sign up.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Well what excuse? What was his story? Excuse is the
wrong word? And what was how did he connect you
to this file? How did he know to give you
the file?

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Well? There were papers in there. There was one paper
towards like two thousand and eight I believe would be
the last paper where my mom and dad. This is
what's weird, where my mom and dad took a trip
to Ireland. And there were the papers that my parents
submitted to the church. This is kind of like a
church thing. And it had like in case of emergency,

(57:07):
and it had my name, but it had my landline
on it and I'm very private, so I have no
idea because we got rid of our landwind.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Wait wait that paper it was part of this file.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Yeah, weird stuff was in there. What's what that weird stuff? What?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I know?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Like, like I said, my parents Christmas list like a
really old crapity crap crap. There wasn't There was a
letter from my dad's I think it was his secretary.
I tried to call. I got a hold of this
lady's family because it's like in this letter she's like,
I don't know how to explain you to my husband,
but we should get together and all this. So I

(57:49):
think it was his secretary. And there's like, oh, yeah,
look at this. They're they're old timy. I shouldn't really
show you that because I usually bleep it. They're old
timey Christmas card list. I mean, there was just weird things.
It's like they were swiping things. There was like some
lady I don't even know who she is.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
How did this guy know? Okay, how how does this
guy find you? So he comes up to you. You're
speaking at mouf On about your book, and this is
where he came up to you. No, how did he
find you?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
He called me on the phone and he said, and
the weird thing is on my cell phone, which I
don't know how I got my cell phone number. He
called me on the phone. He goes, don't hang up,
don't hang up. That's how I'm like hello. And I
thought it was going to be because I don't normally
answer my phone to numbers that I don't know, but
I was waiting for a medical call, so I picked
it up, Thank you God. And he goes, don't hang up.

(58:43):
That was the first thing he said, don't hang up,
don't hang up. He was in a panic, and I'm
like okay, and then he goes, do you know don
blah blah blah, and I'm like yeah, and that creeped
me out because I'm like, who the f are you what?
Because my dad's been gone for fifteen years. And he
goes and that's when he said, oh, well, I have

(59:03):
this desk that I bought from this company.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Don't worry about the company.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Back back to like not metronics, not metronics, but anyway,
and he goes and I found this and I was
cleaning it out, you know, thirty I've had this desk
for thirty years, and I was cleaning it out and
I found this folder behind one of the drawers.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah. I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that point. No,
I know.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
I thought it was hilarious, you know, because I may
be blind, but I'm not stupid. That's my cover story.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Like but his folder. Okay, okay, okay, let's take our
break right here. Let's get this in. Dana, Dana, you
stay right there. I'm your host. Youro Sutur. This is
Fade to Black, our guest, and I Dana Luise. Her
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Me Church. Our guest tonight, Dana Louise is here. The
show is called This is gonna sound weird, and I'm

(01:04:23):
loving it. It's an amazing story.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Just for a slight recap here, Dana made contact as
a child, you know, the I'm assuming like in her
crib kind of thing, started to make contact, took took
the little guys on a tour of her house several times,

(01:04:50):
and then had further encounters which we're going to get
more into in just a second. Further encounters including a
daylight in counter and which leads to her dad's boss.
We're going to circle back to that, but as an adult.

(01:05:10):
So she puts all of this down into a book,
her memoir. This is going to sound weird, and the
book comes out, and then she is contacted by an
individual who she doesn't know that gives her a story
about how he has acquired a file, a file folder

(01:05:32):
that was stashed away in a desk. So anyway, she
receives the file and starts to go through it, and
it's about a lot of different things, but her parents
and very personal things are included in this file about

(01:05:52):
her parents, which is all very very crazy. Now Dana
crazy in a good way, I suppose. But here here's
the question. With all of the experiences that you had
growing up and knowing that, and then you turn around

(01:06:13):
and get a folder like this with all of this
information in it, do you step back and go, holy crap,
I guess everything was real? I guess. Oh what goes
through your mind as you get into this confirmation stage?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Well, we spoke earlier about having the encounters and the
memories kind of fading away, which I think is programming,
I think, or maybe it's our human humanness of that
it's just so much, and so we put it to
the side. But I knew that these things happened. I

(01:06:54):
had many witnesses to the things that had happened to me,
so I couldn't. As much as I wanted to deny
them over my lifetime, I couldn't, which was kind of
upsetting because I just wanted to be normal. So when
I got the file, I I felt well relieved because

(01:07:17):
because it was like, it's kind of like you're trying
to people, it happened. It happened, It really really happened.
And my life has just been it's just been so much,
which is why I'm kind of like downplaying it and
denying it and compartmentalizing it and pushing it away because
it just seems too much for me. Too many things
have happened to me. I'm like, this is, this is,

(01:07:37):
this is. It's gonna sound weird. But when the file happened,
especially with my husband, and I'm sure my sons were
in a state of shock, but they knew and they
took it very well because they're kind of like, yeah, mom,
you know, I'm sure you know. They've seen a lot
of things too, so I think they grew up not questioning,
you know, like, really, Mom, we didn't need that, but

(01:07:59):
I did because there's always been a part of me
that's like feeling like I'm never going to be believed,
Like who's gonna believe this? And sure, I've had witnesses
for a million different things, but I still have this
part of me that's like, who's gonna believe this? Like
I hardly believe it, you know, And if I hardly
believe it and I've gone through it, how can I

(01:08:20):
expect other people to grab onto it and believe it too.
So this was like physical proof. But at the same time,
and I said this earlier, it gave me hope because
I just feel like we're at this very strange point
in the world of when I was little. I'm like,

(01:08:42):
this is a holy war. And I said that to
my sister. I'm like, this is a holy war, and
she's like, Oh, everybody always thinks the all the centuries
are all the people you know what are going through
history have always thought it was a holy war and
this is the end times or something like that. No,
but this is really it. And so for me, it

(01:09:03):
was like there's a lot of things that are going
on right now to humans and we're going through a
huge transition, and to me, I'm upset because I feel
like we have to be very very careful stepping forward
as humans to remember our divinity. And when I got
this file, it was like, there are other people humanoids

(01:09:28):
outside of the Angelic realm, outside of the God realm,
outside of the Alien realm, you know, because there's all
these factions. There's a lot of people fighting over this planet.
And I was like, thank you that there are people
who are in the shadow government, because that's what I believe,
that are white hats that are here to help us
and maybe even help me with what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Is this guy who is this guy? Was he a
white hat? He's obviously he's not some innocent guy that
bought a desk. That part of the story is bullshit, right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
No, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
It just is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
It just is it is. Yeah, And that's such a
crazy component to this, this whole story to have travel
documents in there, right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff in there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
This guy is has a role to play, you know
what I mean. He's not just some guy that's going
to call you on your cell phone. Oh, by the way,
you know, I got some photos from photo Matt. I
think they belong to you. No, that's not that's not
the case. Here did you find out more about who

(01:10:43):
he was?

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Funny you should ask, because I'm such a dirp, you know,
like so so many things like happened to me, and
I just come like, okay, well that just oh oh
there wasn't you know, like what, oh there was a vortex.
Oh there was a I you know, like there's a Chris,
you know, like all these things happen to me. And
I'm just like, it's another day. And then the boy
said to me, I think it was probably nine months

(01:11:07):
later or something like that. Some time had passed, and
the boy said, uh uh, you should probably write it down,
and you should probably look into this guy right like
before you lose everything. Because I did have his phone
number because he was on my phone, and I also
had on my you know ways you know, like the

(01:11:28):
traffic thing, like the Google map kind of how to
get places waz. I'm like, oh yeah, So I scrolled
to look up his address again, and then I went
to Google and I actually looked him up, which was
interesting because it had different like he was different ages,
like it's you know, it was kind of like a

(01:11:48):
ten to twenty year difference in who he was as
his age, and there I think there was some discrepancies
kind of with his name and all this kind of stuff,
and he had to run in with his neighbors. So
I started to research on him because I'm like, who
is this guy? Because just like I said, just recently,
some woman said to me, I'm not so sure if
he was fully human, like, weren't you afraid of him?

(01:12:10):
Because she does soul things, she works with angels and
stuff like I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, well
you have no, I've met some crazy things. No, I'm
not gonna be afraid of him. And my husband knew
I was going to visit him, not to say that
they couldn't come to my house that night. Neuralize all
of us. And I do think that there was a

(01:12:31):
piece of paper missing, because there was a piece of
paper that I said to my showed my husband and
my voice said to me, take a picture of this one,
and I didn't do it. And then the next morning
that picture was or that page was gone. So for me,
I know I'm being watched I'm you know, they know

(01:12:52):
that I know that they know that I know, and
that they can come in and out of my house
and neuralize me or do whatever. And they've been hacking
my phone for a million years. You used to I
used to really be able to hear it. A lot
of times, I'll do a podcast or something and they'll
glitch it. They'll mess it all up because they don't
like some of the things I'm saying they've do my house,

(01:13:14):
you know, like energy weapons stuff. You know, like I
get all this stuff, but I know that I have
God's on my side, and I know that there's white
hats on my side, so I feel safe and secure.
I do a lot of energy work and all this
kind of stuff, so you know, I feel pretty confident.
I think after a while, they're just going to give
up on me, they're going to get bored.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Okay, who did he turn out to be? Did you
find that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
I don't know, No, I really don't. I don't really
know who he is. He's just this name of this guy,
and I'm not going to bust him because I'm very
grateful that he gave me this file. So I'm not
going to talk about who he is or anything like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
That with him time we talked to him.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
No, Nope, it was just that that's the end of that.
If he wants to reach out to me, that's fine.
But I just kind of felt like, you know, when
you deal with these things, you you know, take the
money and run or something like that. I'm not gonna
poke a stick or whatever, whatever thing you want to say,
look the gift horse in the mouth, you know, whatever
you want to call it. I was just grateful. I

(01:14:17):
grabbed that file and I went home and think you
think you thank you. I'm just super super grateful. And
I am sure he's watching.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Over me, and he's watching this show right now, you
know that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
I'm sure he probably is. Yeah, and I know what
his name is. Yeah, I'm sure he is. And I'm
gonna be speaking for move On in another month and
I'm sure he's gonna be watching that too, whatever. And
I kind of have a feeling that's how he found
me was through move On, you know, because I was
just starting to do podcasts and that was like one
of the first talks that I ever did, and it
was probably about I think my move On thing was

(01:14:51):
like in November, and this was February when he called
me up. So my book came out in twenty three,
like April. I did a thing for move On like
that November, and then this was February right after that.
But no, I'm no. I am grateful and I will
protect him like I protect my family. You know, when
you deal with this stuff, you you don't you know,

(01:15:14):
you don't. You know you have to protect yourself, so
you don't. You don't say things, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
All right, all right, let's get to Okay, such a
crack I could. I could talk about this forever. It's
it's an amazing part of your story. But in the
time that we have left, I want to investigate a
few other things here, backwards engineering and being involved in
those kinds of programs which apparently your your father was.

(01:15:43):
I'm sure he went away on extended trips and was gone.
Skunk Works. I live next to skunk Works out here,
and which is right up the street from me. You
can see it from my house. It's it's right up
the road. Lots of reports I've seen things, lots of
reports about what skunk work does and what is down

(01:16:05):
the street. What did you find out about that did
your dad ever visit skunk Works.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
I'm not sure he might have. I did funny that
you say that, because we spoke about this earlier. I
did quote like one of the big CEOs of skunk
Works in my book, you know, it's kind of hilarious.
And then I think I think his quote was basically that,
because like God told me to like look people up
and do stuff to fill out my book and stuff.

(01:16:32):
Other like, I just kind of did whatever, and I
tripped upon this guy. I think he said, Hey, whatever
you think we got. Yeah, we're fifty years ahead of that,
you know. And I believe that. And I'm privy to
understanding kind of what where the possibilities of technology can go.

(01:16:53):
And I'm not quite sure if that comes from being
exposed to it. Probably. I mean, I'm gonna tell you this,
sitting in a tin camp for thirty years, this whole
being in a rocket that's blowney, that's blowning. That's that's
not how space travel works, you know what I mean?

(01:17:15):
And I just want to stop and take a break
right there, because if this stuff is rolling our weight,
and I don't think it is, but if it is, people,
my best advice to you is start to learn telepathy. Okay,
start to learn telepathy. And like I said in the

(01:17:35):
back of my book, I do some energy exercises to
help people get in touch with there to be a
whole holy human, that's what I call it, to be
a whole holy human. The things that have been shut
down are divinity. So the best way, I would say
an exercise for you to start with your telepathy because

(01:17:56):
aliens use telepathy. Nobody's talking, okay, and if they're walking around,
you kind of might want to know what they're saying, right,
So like start working on it now. People, when you're
driving in traffic, I mean, I'm sure you already know
that there's a difference from five years ago. There's a
Zobie apocalypse. When you're driving in your car and these
people are cognitively offline. Most people when they're driving in

(01:18:21):
their car, right, so they're in their perfect hypogognic state,
they're like not sure if they're going to work or
going to target or whatever they're doing. So that's the
perfect time for you to just pretend. Imagine, just imagine,
just pretend, just blowny it. Just just pretend like oh

(01:18:42):
I can read their mind or they're going to turn left,
or they're gonna put their blinker on, or they're gonna
do this or do that, and just start to play
with that and start to play with it, and then
you're gonna realize that you're getting better and better at it.
And then you might be at work or standing next
to somebody and just pretend like you have this inner
g exchange and that oh, like, yeah, I know what

(01:19:02):
they're thinking. Just just light to yourself or whatever. Just
pretend that you know what they're thinking or something like that,
and over time it'll start to actually happen. And that's
how you can at least get rolling with this this
other form of communication, which I feel that if we

(01:19:23):
are evolving, I feel that we would be evolving into
light beings, you know, instead of this density. Because we
are on this planet. We are at three D dense
and it's hard to be dense, and other entities aren't
as dense as we are. That's why it's kind of
a great honor for your soul to come here and
be here. It's hard work, as we all know, right,

(01:19:45):
Chop would and you'll do all the things anyway. So
just start to understand that you are a person, You're
cosmic you're cosmic being and we should start to be
grown up and act like it. And that's what the
powers that be They don't want us to. They want
us to just care about football and Dorito's and be

(01:20:07):
shut off and offline and entertained and entrained. And you know,
they don't want us to know that, you know, we're
galactic beings, or that we are divine beings, or that
we have powers. Because if we if we knew us
humans knew that we had powers, they couldn't control us.

(01:20:29):
And the best example for me to say is when
England went to India and they were like they infiltrated
in India. I can't even think of the word right now,
but anyway, the gurus there could have given our rats petuity,
you know, because the gurus were already in charge with

(01:20:49):
or in touch with the cosmic universe, and the English
soldiers didn't know what to do because the gurus could
have given.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
A you know, yeah, well they understood consciousness right absolutely
well with your contact with these entities? Was that how
did you learn about telepathy and how that communication was
happening at a very early age?

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Well, yeah, because the Grays never we never talked, but
we could clearly communicate and every every et that I've
ever met, that's how we communicate. And let me tell
you in the book, I got dragged out one night.
And this is kind of upsetting to me because in
the book I wrote about I got taken through a

(01:21:40):
wormhole and I got taken to the edge of space,
the end of all space, and I have a lot
of feelings and thoughts about what's actually going on blah
blah blah. But anyway, so I was at the end
of space and here was this what I called a
crystal skull. It was points of light in the shape

(01:22:03):
of a skull, and we were communicating for a while there.
And in the book, I was just kind of like, oh,
you know the crystal skulls that people have found like
throughout the world, and you know, and everybody thinks like
maybe they're like a computer system, you know, because crystals
and blah blah blah blah blah. You know. So I
had this one theory that I wrote about in the book.

(01:22:27):
But then after were you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
You was this was this int a dream or was
this a conscious Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
No, this is me being taken out going through Do
you remember in contact when Jodie Foster went through a wormhole.
Uh huh okay. So it was like one of those
kinds of things that's like, oh no, no, you're going
through a wormhole. And then boom, I'm in the head
and an end of space and here's this being. And
I thought it was just a crystal skull. And now

(01:22:55):
I am realizing that that was a I that that
that I met. And I don't know if the AI
that's coming for us, But AI is artificial intelligence. So right,
So if you have God, God can create. God is

(01:23:17):
the creator, and so are humans. So is a woman.
She has a womb, and she can, you know, bring
birth a child. That's creation. You can make a drawing,
you can write a book, you can you are creative,
you you you know all this kind of stuff. I
don't need to get into it. But AI can't do that.
It's the opposite. So I came to realize after I

(01:23:40):
wrote the book and and the things that are happening today,
it all of a sudden dawned on me, Oh snap,
here's this being and it's coming for us, And so
what a AI galactic ais go. It's kind of like
the Marvel Universe you know, like thanos. You know, they're

(01:24:04):
and they're entertaining themselves. It's like the Mark in Never
Ending Story. It just eats things up for its own entertainment.
I'm not saying to be afraid of it, but I'm
just saying to be aware of it, and that this
is what's out there, and this is the true uh
meaning of what AI is uh And it's an entity

(01:24:28):
and it's there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Okay, okay, let's back back up. Yeah no, this is great.
This is great. Let's back back up. Okay. So you're
at the edge of space and you encounter this and
you see it. What happens next?

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Oh so because I'm I'm found like a golden retriever,
Like because seriously, if I ever met an entity that
sounded like Charlton Heston, I'd be like, you're full of crap,
you know, like you're what you're a demon? Yet whatever?
Piss off? Anyway, So this entity, but this entity was

(01:25:07):
flat like like it's and its voice was neither male
or female. And so I I finally said, how did
I get out here? Like what am I doing here? Like?
How am I? Why am I meeting you? And it said,
this is great? Classic data it said intelligence, and I said,

(01:25:29):
my intelligence are your intelligence?

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Good? Good question. I'm with you, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
And with that I was sent back. So no, no wormhole,
no flippity floppity wormhole. I was sent back, uh in
a shock. And that was kind of traumatic and stuff
like that. But I'm like, wow, I kind of pissed
it off, you know whatever. And then I was like
I sat there and in my book, I'm like intelligence,

(01:25:57):
Like do you mean like a military intelligence or blah
blah blah. And here's the funny thing where I wrote
my book. You know, I'm going through all this stuff
and i'm, you know, doing the name take thing and
there's a number on the name tag and I'm a boomer.
I'm sorry, I'll tell me grandma. And I'm like, hey,

(01:26:18):
there's a number on this name take. What does it mean?
What does the number three six' four? Mean AND i
looked it up and it said NOW i wrote about
it in my. Book it said they talked about. Intelligence
and it was, like, oh, snap that brings me back
to THAT ai. Guy you. Know So i'm not quite. Sure,

(01:26:40):
Uh i'm not quite, sure BUT i, think, well you
could say intelligence also is a key TO ai, right, Intelligence,
Right SO i asked the, question what AM i doing out? Here?

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Oh it sounds to me AND i don't want to
paint a picture here that, yeah but it sounds to
me like there was an ongoing program going on and
you were selected from a very young. Age but the
question is out there did did the government know that

(01:27:15):
this was going? On were you put into this? Position?

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Mm hm. Yes that goes back to again when my
dad quit his job or was, fired you, know AND
i got The rose and my dad lost his job
not too long afterwards and pretty much destroyed our family
financially and all this kind of. Stuff, long long, story
so you, know so all of a lot of a

(01:27:42):
lot of this came forward AFTER i wrote the. BOOK
i went to a conference and some people were talking
and all of a, Sudden i'm, like oh, Snap and
it brought a rush of memories back.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
To, me not in the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Book so, there everybody's, like there's gonna be a new.
Book i'm, like oh my, god. Seriously, Okay so at
that point in, TIME i think they were, like, OH
i think your daughter needs to go on a camping
trip out to you, know wherever montak or is it new?
Here we.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Go, yeah, yeah here we.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Go SO i think my dad, said, NO i, quit
you can't have. Her so in my, Memories i'm, like,
snap And i'm gonna, say if you watch the Show
Big Bang, Theory sheldon's girlfriend wears these weird pajamas that
are kind of like this prairie dress with a wild

(01:28:38):
design on, it and that is the. Pajamas it's kind
of triggering for me to see, That, Amy and it's
triggering because she's wearing the pajamas THAT i found myself
standing And i'm gonna tell you something standing in the front,
yard and SO i think they enticed. Me, Okay i'm

(01:29:01):
standing in the front yard in the middle of the,
night And i'm looking up at the, sky and all
of a, sudden the whole sky starts shaking and the
sky rips. Open so the, firmament it's the firmament is
ripping open and income these. Ships so for a While
I'M i a few, nights you, Know i'd watch the.

(01:29:23):
Ships then after THAT i found myself on the. Ships,
Okay SO i think what happened was, Okay SO i
think the contract with my, dad he ended that with
The grays and all that kind of, stuff and they're,
like we're gonna take her To. MONTAKY i think he
said no, Way so then there's no contract with. Me
this is me, thinking, okay this is just me making

(01:29:45):
up a. Story this is my imagining. World but it
kind of makes. Sense so then, okay they don't have
a contract over me at this. Point but, hey let's
take her. Outside let's show her the. Spacecraft and So
i'm sitting there, going, oh, pretty look at. That you,
know that's pretty. Cool And i'm sure there was, like,
hey little, girl you think that's. Cool how would you
like to be in one of those? Spaceships? Okay you,

(01:30:09):
know so the next thing you, Know i'm on the spaceships,
Anyway so that that kind of went. Down now let
me tell. YOU i you, know after after the guy
in the black speedo showed, UP i had had enough
Because i'm, like now you have you took my, eggs
and you took my HUSBAND'S dna as, well let's just

(01:30:30):
put it that. Way AND i didn't even realize that
they took my HUSBAND'S dna UNTIL i wrote the book
and a GIRLFRIEND i was talking about the chapter AS
i was, writing and she, goes, oh, no, no they
they got. Everything they got your stuff and your husband's
And i'm, like and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Very.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Upsetting and they, said you know when they came, there, like,
oh we're here to save your planet and whatever. Else but,
anyway so this is very. Upsetting so after that incident,
happened BECAUSE i you, know my, children any, Children i'm
like to think THAT i have, children that they have my,
eggs that they can make a child a full human

(01:31:10):
with MY dna very. Upsetting and Then i'm, like, Okay
i'm shutting this shit, down like shut them all. Down
So i'm, Like i'm, like there's gonna be no More
aliens at my. House there's gonna be no more of this,
bologna all, contracts no, void no back, contracts no side,
doors no, this and THAT i. SHUT i shut all

(01:31:31):
that crept. Down and it took a while to get
the space program down BECAUSE i was not only in.
SPACE i was on waterways and on. Airstrips AND i
just want to tell you really quick, too when that sky,
opened when the firmament, opened and the sound my, understanding

(01:31:53):
it's called legion and the best way to describe. It
AND i was Shown dana uh the diditery do And
tibetan throats. Singing they're not, meditating you. Know when people
do these, sounds they're trying to open up the firmament
to bring back the sky people who used to be

(01:32:14):
here with. Us AND i was, like oh my, god
that makes perfect. Sense and that was the. Sound so
that makes sense that indigenous people back in the past
would make that sound again to welcome these sky. People you.
Know so after MY dna was, stolen that that's what really.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
That how are? They okay you've said this a couple of,
times so let me ask you. Directly how did how
did they what did they sample for YOUR? Dna and your?
Husband what did they? Take, well, well what.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
Do you think they? TOOK i don't. Know, well they
took my. Eggs they THEY i had a like an Exam, okay,
okay you know a vaginal. Exam, okay, okay, okay that's
how you get eggs and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
That, Okay, so and and your husband.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Had deposited his, sperm right, Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Okay does he remember?

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
That we don't talk about. It he has no, clue,
really so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
You Don't he doesn't even know if it was. Fun
he doesn't know about this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Incident we don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
It you got?

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
It you gotta you want me to talk to him about?

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
It?

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
No, no, no, no that would be very. No that
would be. No that would be very. Upsetting have you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Thought About i'm not being? Cavalier? Okay so and WHEN
i say was it? FUN i, mean you, know how
does that process? Happen and is it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Is normally he's normally knocked. Out whenever entities have come
and visited, Us he's normally knocked. Out And i'm, like,
like you're no. Help and the one thing he encountered
was WHEN i was mad at him AND i called
upon angels and uh and, sorry but an angel attacked

(01:34:09):
him because, yeah that's a whole long. Story and he.
Came he was he was, scared he was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Crying is he going to watch this? Show is he
going to watch that? Show?

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Nope my husband is a. Muggle my husband is an.
Army that is. That my life is, compartmentalized you know
WHAT i? Mean so this and what we're doing here
in this whole podcast and my, Book.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
You're going to be out, Shopping you're going to be
At costco with your, husband and somebody's gonna come up
and GO i saw. You is this your? HUSBAND i
saw you on fade The? Black this is your? Hut
does he do you know it's going to? Happen, YEAH i.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
MEAN i, suppose BUT i mean and that maybe another
good reason why with the file also so he can't
deny it with the. File but also my children.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Know why his why his why HIS? Dna why? Him?

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
OH i don't, know just because he was, there because
he's he's my he's my. SPOUSE i don't. Know he's
got good. TEETH i don't strong. Back he's six or.
Three he's good. LOOKING i don't. KNOW i know why
they took my.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Strong that it was a good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Breeding he's good, breeding you. Know he's uh, WELL i
was told he's part of The Galactic council, too and
stuff like. That i'm, like, seriously, really but he doesn't.
Know he's a. Muggle he's shut. Down he likes it that.
Way he does, sports you. Know and that's Why i'm
saying for, me and you, know we've been married thirty four.
YEARS i never said. Boo the only, time LIKE i

(01:35:50):
said that he ever saw anything in the house or
is privy to, anything was WHEN i sent some. ANGELS
i was sleeping downstairs BECAUSE i was mad at, him
and he was sleeping, upstairs AND i got our, Gangel,
michael and a couple other, guys a couple of my other,
buddies AND i, said you're gonna guard that room and
he's not to leave the. Room, well angels are very

(01:36:14):
they take things a little too. Seriously and so when
my husband soul started to, leave you, know he was falling,
asleep he was attacked and so the angel was my
husband's kneeling on him with a knife to his, throat
and my husband fought, him threw him, off ran. Downstairs
he was bawling his eyes. Out i've never seen my

(01:36:34):
husband cry in his, life not even As dad's funeral or.
ANYTHING i, mean he using a. Pant he was in a.
Panic he thought we were being attacked and he he,
was and so he's like all cry and he's like
are you okay and all this kind of, stuff And i'm,
like what you, know like because he whooped me up
and you, know blah blah, blah and he said this
guy And i'm like and he looked like A roman, soldier,

(01:36:56):
Okay AND i started to laugh and he was like
that's not, funny you. Know he was REALLY i, mean
this was serious and he was. Not he didn't think
it was funny at. All And i'm sorry THAT i.
Laughed but, Yeah so.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
That one encounter he, had you, said you shut down
THE et? Stuff has it? Ended?

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yes? Yeah and then THE i pretty much have shut
down The space program. Stuff and the last, person and
it could have been the guy who handed me the,
folder was the weirdest ENCOUNTER i. Had AND i have
a picture of. IT i don't know IF i have it,
here but it's the weirdest THING i ever. Saw and

(01:37:39):
this thing was like a. Drone, okay but you, know
have you ever gotten like an old timey carnival where
there's like the it's called The zipper, ride and it's
kind of like, bent you, know like in a body,
shape like how you sit in a. Chair, right that's
kind of how the cage. Looks. Right, well this guy

(01:37:59):
was in the plastic form kind of you, know like
not that much bigger than a human. Body but it
was kind of a drone with a bubble, front and
he just came in front of. Me and the thing
of it is it's red like a, rose like a Red.
Rose i've never seen any other spacecraft that had color

(01:38:19):
like especially, red and so he was hovering just above
the ground and HE i think WAS i don't think
he was a. HIGHBRED i think he was fully human
because he didn't have telepathic powers and he just like
looked at. Me AND i think the thing was like
kind of like a thank you for your service kind
of a. Deal pretty. Much that was about two years

(01:38:43):
ago or, so and AND i think that was them, saying,
okay signing, off thank you for, everything and blah blah
blah blah, blahhing and it could have been this. Guy
nothing since basically, no Although i'll tell YOU i did
see That netflix show Through Body. Problem oh, yeah that's.
Great yeah, Yeah, Okay well when they were going through

(01:39:05):
The Panama. Canal that was very triggering for, me that,
boat because that brought me back to one of the
missions Because i'm usually on you, know the waterways and
stuff like. That i'm, like oh, Snap i've been through that.
Canal check.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
This i'm gonna show you see this. Tattoo see that
don't KNOW i got don't get my. Glossy it doesn't
matter that that tattoo Says. Panama Oh, OKAY i live.
There but here's the crazy part With Three Body. PROBLEM
i lived in a little town in the jungle called Cooke.

(01:39:42):
LEI i lived there for a few months when we
first moved, there and that town in the jungle crazy.
Loved it was next to The Mirror Flora's locks where
that scene, is AND i used to go down and
and sit on the side of the canal and just

(01:40:03):
watch the ships roll by through that section and it's
just Always it's part of my childhood AND i really enjoyed.
IT i was like fourteen fifteen years old, anyway to
see that scene and how they set it up In
Three Body. Problem woo. MAN i was texting all of my,

(01:40:24):
friends are you watching? This it was a crazy. Scene.
Now it's also there's A chinese version Of Three Body.
Problem it's like thirty, episodes, right which is, older and
The netflix version of it is like six or eight

(01:40:45):
episodes whatever it. Is but so it is so well,
done that scene right with the ship being cut, apart
so well. Done and SO i go AND i watch
The chinese version of, it AND i gotta tell, you
that scene is just as good in The chinese version

(01:41:09):
Of Three Body. Problems so what was it about that
scene for you that seemed?

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Familiar BECAUSE i was in a ship AND i was
walking through like the, galley like the like the break,
room like where you'd have lunch and, food like a,
cafeteria but it was above the. Water SO i remember
walking through there and seeing the, background you, Know and

(01:41:39):
that's one of those memories that you kind of, forget
but then all of a sudden you. Remember and so
WHEN i saw that in the, SHOW i was, like holy,
Shit i've been. There and what was disturbing to me is,
like what were we? Doing what's going? On and usually
When i'm on a lot of these, Ships i'm going

(01:41:59):
to tell, You i'm as a. Witness i'm not doing the.
Things i'm witnessing who's coming and, going you, know because
there's like trilateral there's all the, alphabets and there's and
there's governmental places from other, places like other galaxies and
stuff like that that come in and, out dignitaries and

(01:42:20):
dignitaries from here and they fly in and out and
stuff like, that and it's Usually i'm witnessing, it and
a lot of TIMES i have to hide AND i
don't want to be seen by the militia or whoever's in.
Charge i'm there as a. Witness i'm making. Sure i'm
either making sure they're behaving or just reporting BECAUSE i

(01:42:44):
call myself kind of the eyes on the, ground and
i've been usually When i'm doing a lot of these,
Things i'm, Yeah i'm the eyes on the. Ground i'm
reporting to somebody. There i'm witnessing whatever is going on.
There SO i don't know what the mission. IS i
don't know Why, panama what's going on. There CERTAINLY i

(01:43:04):
know on the river what the project, was AND i
know in the air what the project, was and on
the airports not so. Sure but a lot of Times
i'm just really watching dignitaries coming in and out and
that kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Stuff sound.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Was the, River, well see The panama is kind of
like a river, too, right you, know go through this,
River so the, rivers what are they doing on the
rivers and harvesting looche is basically what they're doing a
lot of times when people are, sleeping especially like with

(01:43:44):
the ships and stuff like, that people are, sleeping things
are going on and they harvest that. Energy WHEN i
was a little, GIRL i CALL i said it was
they Were oh My, god they're harvesting. Souls this is
When i'm eight years. OLD i didn't know how else
to describe. It, now were they actually harvesting souls of
people who were? DYING i can't tell. You i'm not quite,

(01:44:07):
sure BUT i knew my language and my verbiage was
that they're harvesting. Souls now is that part of the reincarnation?
TRAP i can't tell. You to be, FAIR i don't
know what they were doing. TODAY i would, say were
they harvesting? Looche i'd give you that. Much but that's
what they're. Doing if you go to Still, water there's

(01:44:29):
an energy building there In, bayport and this energy plant
has the same name and it's connected to other energy
plants around The United, states WHICH i thought was really.
Strange BECAUSE i start to research this, Stuff i'm, Like,
danny you've experienced these, things dig into it a little

(01:44:50):
bit BECAUSE i kind of stay away from all of.
It and, so, yeah they're harvesting, stuff and they're doing
in a big fat.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Hurry when you say, airports do you mean like lax?

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Airports, okay small, ones small, airports, independent small. Airports And
i'm watching the smaller planes because those are more incognito
or go more. UNNOTICED a lot of these missions and
stuff like that are supposed to be you, know not
noticed and go, undetected you know that kind of a.

(01:45:31):
Thing And i'll tell you one night WHEN i was
and here's the. THING i really want to get a
hold OF kstp here in The Twin cities BECAUSE i
know they have this on a beta. Tape it's like
everything THAT i, say you, KNOW i can back it
up with witnesses, this that or the other. THING i
was probably in tenth grade or eleventh, grade AND i

(01:45:53):
got up for no particular. REASON i didn't have to
pee or eat or any of those, things AND i
just stuck my nose out the. Window SO i grew
up In. Fridley the trees were smaller, then and we
lived about a block or away from The Mississippi, river
and UFOs traveled by the river a. Lot they follow
the waterways and all that kind of. Stuff, anyway so

(01:46:14):
HAD i been two, minutes a couple of seconds, earlier
a couple of seconds, LATER i would have missed the.
Ufo but, anyway SO i saw this, ufo you, know
going parallel To East River road and The mississippi. River,
OKAY i saw it and THEN i went back to. Bed,
okay next, DAY i go to, school you, know you,

(01:46:35):
know don't say, anything did. BE i come home and
there's a show Called Twin Cities today With Stephen sheer And,
adelman and they had this afternoon jocular. Show many cities have,
these you, know where they talk about recipes and what's
going on around. Town and at the end of the,
show back in at this, time they would open up
the airway to. Callers they would open up the lines, like,

(01:46:57):
oh first, caller and you, know typically the person's, like, oh,
OH i love that brownie recipe that you had, yesterday you,
know some dipshit kind of a, thing you. Know and
and it's about three o'clock in the afternoon going into,
four so typically men aren't calling. In grown men aren't calling.
In but on this, day you, know caller, one you,

(01:47:19):
know blah blah. Blah you, know what's your? Question and
and you, know you're, like you're in the. Business it's,
like didn't a producer vet this, person like wouldn't be, like,
yeah my Name's, Chuck well what do you want to
talk about? Today? Chuck want to talk about? Flowers, okay you,
know did he lie to the? Producer how did he get?
Online because the guy, goes, hey did anybody see that

(01:47:41):
u a fo last? Night And Steven sharon got this struck.
Him look on their, faces they're like oh and booh
they hang up on the guy right oh you, know
only you. Know and they're, like, okay collar number two
and collar number two comes online and it's another. Dude i'm,
like how did this? Happen and he, goes, YEAH i saw.

(01:48:04):
It did anybody see the military personnel following? It and
yeah they're and they're like ohh and they hang up on. Him,
now let me tell, you there's supposed to be a
stretch of time talking about stupid stuff like ludifisk and.
Brownies you, know this is The Twin. Cities and they
hung up on these two guys and they went straight

(01:48:26):
to commercial. Break that was the end of the. Show
this was the longest damn commercial BREAK i ever saw
in my. LIFE i had to be ten minutes of
it or something like. That you, KNOW i mean they're long,
usually but this was. Outrageous AND i ran to the
kitchen because the phone hung on the wall And i'm
trying to dial the, number and it was, busy you,

(01:48:46):
know for the rest of the. Day BUT i in that,
MOMENT i could see the military. Personnel it was LIKE
i was on the. SHIP i could see the military.
PERSONNEL i knew what was going. ON i saw the whole.
Thing and to, This i've given people who are on
The twin because now it's Called Twin Cities. Live i've
given my book to various hosts that are on the,

(01:49:08):
show various people at the, station AND i put a bookmarker,
there And i'm, like, hey there's got to be a
beta tape OR vhs. Tape you, know this is in the,
seventies this is seventy, seven seventy. Eight, SOMEBODY i would
hope or think that they might have that tape around
to prove that those two guys called up and there

(01:49:31):
was A. Ufo and let me tell you what is
on that river right there is The Ford motor. Plant
And ford built his plant. There and guess. What they
were drilling tunnels for decades twenty four to seven with air.
Guns air guns because it's sandstone and limestone down, there

(01:49:52):
you know WHAT i. Mean and now we got up
here In Arden, hills THIS tcaap has got my sister
reports all these tunnels here and then you got over.
Here oh it's called THREE. M they don't call Themselves
Minnesota mining And manufacturing, anymore do. They oh, yeah they make.
Glue yeah they do more than. THAT i guarantee, you,
yeah for, sure for.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
Sure what do you think as we close out with
all of the attention from the media and The, pentagon
The department Of, defense The Senate congress all focusing on
contact and et and reverse engineering and UFOs, UAPs why,

(01:50:35):
now what do you think is going?

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
On? WELL i think the cup spilleth over my personal belief,
system you, know because all these drones were out there
and things are going. ON i believe. It there's a
number of factions going. ON i do believe it's like
a holy. WAR i know there's angels out. There i've
seen them doing. Things you could call it an angelic

(01:50:59):
realm is. Here and concern BECAUSE i do believe that
there's other etis or entities that are, here some of
them for nefarious, reasons some of them to, help and
some of them are are they working together to help
whatever's going? On you, know you got to, Remember cern
is opening up a lot of, gateways and those dipshits

(01:51:19):
don't know what they're, doing, Right they could be opening
up vortexas and hellholes and maybe that's part of the.
Problem and let me tell you that's not the only
collider that's going. On there's a bunch of. Them there's
a there's like probably five or six in The United,
states and nobody talks about those colliders at.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
All that's, Right so all that's going.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
On SO i think up those drones are hybreds are
humans like our, military our, military shadow, government, hyghbreds etis
and The angelic, realm if you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
That they're all up there are, angels but you were
refer to as, ANGELS i should, say.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Is that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Et by another? Name and if it's an interdimensional, situation
could they have been misinterpreted throughout history as something?

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
Else, nope ET's or ets and ets have, weapons and
ets have, missions and ets have. Agendas angels or like
The blues, Brothers and we're on a mission From, god right.
Right the penguins sent, Me i'm on a mission From.
God and that's what that's going. On and that's where
That Holy realm is. Happening because if you're opening up

(01:52:38):
a damn hellhole, here you better Believe god sending some
angels to plug that up or whatever the heck is going.
On we are talking not, cool not cool, people and
we got harp you, know and they're you, know all
that kind of. STUFF i, mean there's a lot of
things going. On SO i think there's a lot of
the powers that be that are in control of this

(01:52:59):
plan it have been had a little too much of
the bit in their, mouth you, know like the horse
and the reins and all that kind of, Stuff and
SO i think they're trying to shut this down before
we get into a lot of. Trouble and, remember we
Got ai out there that's. Coming this stuff going on for,
sure stuff going.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
On, well then that brings UP i think one of
the ultimate questions that we have in front of, us
et from another star, system another, galaxy uh, wherever that
part doesn't, matter but Is god? There do they have angels?
There our angels throughout the? Universe is religion throughout the?

(01:53:41):
Universe and DOES e t believe In? God DOES et
have their own version Of jesus Or Jesus? Jesus these
are the questions.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
THAT i have.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
It's very. Different, well but but how can it? Be
i'm not pooh poohing any of. This i'm just saying
the bigger question THAT i have is no good. Question
do we only Have jesus here On? Earth and if
that's the, case that doesn't make any sense that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Yeah that's a that's a control. System, however could there
have been a? Master could there have been a gentleman
who was as in contact or you, know like and
There's buddha and all these guys ascended, masters avatars. Whatever
of course there can, be of course there can, be you,
know but that that is that is specific TO i

(01:54:38):
believe this planet for, me for me, PERSONALLY i believe
that science is basically Proving. God for. ME i believe
like my, body we are sure you know science, Field, Yeah,
DANA i.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
Agree with all of. That but if we if we
peel this back and, look go to page one of
The Bible, genesis go to page, one right seven, Days
god whips out everything uh as the created or as the. Heavens,
well that says to, me the universe In god's image

(01:55:11):
right created a created, light and and and the firmament
and and, water all of this, happened it would say
to me That god would then do the same thing
on another planet in his, image right that that that that,

(01:55:31):
heaven which is, space which is the. Universe it must
be the same. Everywhere If i'm going to take The bible.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Literally well, yeah but even look at your. Body you
have hair which looks very different than your, toenails you
know WHAT i. Mean so in his image in my,
image you, know like, okay you know WHAT i. Mean
it's like it's like, saying, dog this is this is
my whack of better, terminology And i'm a stupid human

(01:56:03):
trying to describe. It BUT i feel, LIKE i, mean
literally all of this we could just be sitting in
some kids bug jar in a different, realm you, know
like when you get into the quantum, physics WHICH i
love so, much like you, know the observer, theory you,
KNOW i mean just you, KNOW i love to get

(01:56:24):
into quantum physics and talk about that BECAUSE i think
there's the verse and the inverse and all that kind
of stuff and atoms and, like you, know what's the
difference between this and? That and you, know we think
we're so big because we're, humans but, literally the Planet
earth is just teeny tiny you, know it's just. Nothing And,
okay so you got the solar system and, stuff and
you have the ethers or, plasma but, like literally are

(01:56:47):
We are we in somebody? Else some other? Entities blood?
SYSTEM i, mean LIKE i just let my mind go
of like what is? This you? Know what are we?
Experiencing Because i'll tell you there's mites on my face
that literally don't know that they are mites on my.
Face And i'm kind of just saying we humans can
be just as, benighted just as stupid as the mts

(01:57:09):
on my face or the worms under my, house you
know WHAT i. Mean there's many levels of, living you,
know SO i can't really tell, you BUT i think
it's fascinating AND i just do believe that there is an.
Intelligence there is there is an. Intelligence is it an
old fart with a long?

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Beard, yeah it's.

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
Possible, yeah but there's an intelligence and it's an electrical
something or, another but it's it's it's an. Intelligence and
maybe that's what THAT. Ai when it said to, Me i'm,
like how DID i get? Here and it's said? Intelligence
there you, go you're.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
Right, well you're right, though and the idea and by the.
Way thank. You great. Show as we wrap up the
idea of might walk looking around the. Forest that is
the hairs on your, face, right your your, eyelashes, RIGHT
i know that is that is their? Earth, yeah what

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exists beyond? That what is outer space to? Them you? Know,
yeah that's the quantum aspect Of that is mind. Blowing
that's WHY i like the film Fun, Quantumania, quantumania The marvel. Movie,
oh go watch, That go Watch. Quantumania quantumania is a.

(01:58:33):
Documentary i'll watch.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
All this is so well. Done go Watch quantumania By
marvel Ant man And quantumania so, Good. DANA i can't
wait to get you back on the show and we'll
talk about the paranormal stuff and everything. Else. Yeah, yeah
we didn't get into any of.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
Holograms we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
Know the first show is always like, this you, know
let's get the introduction. Done but, yeah great conversation. Tonight
just thank you so. Much and we've got links for
everything below where everybody can get the book and head
over to your website and follow everything that you. Do,
dana thank you so much having me beat me safe out.

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There thank. YOU i kept waiting for the show to
get shut down by THE cia. Tonight they left us.
Alone thank you so, Much, dana perfect. Conversation have a great, Night.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
Thank, you thank you, All thank you to. Everybody thank
you the absolute.

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Best perfect night on the. Show. Everybody i'm your Old Jimmy.
Church and tomorrow, night Actor Thomas jane is back with
us to try to follow up this amazing conversation that
we had tonight With Dana luise, fantastic go and get her.
Book the links are below and with, That i'll see
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