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September 1, 2025 • 124 mins
Tonight, researcher Scot Guargilia joins us to discuss his decades-long research into pyramids, shapes, and sacred geometry that he used in the construction and designs of pyramids that transform you... an incredible conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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This is Day to Black. It's your host, Jimmy Church
on the Game Changer Radio Network. All right, good evening,
Fade to Black. How you doing today? Is Thursday, August
twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I am your host, Jimmy Church.
It is the end of my week. That's right, it

(01:20):
is my Friday. It's your Thursday. You still got to
go to work tomorrow. Kids, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
I'm your host, Jimmy Church. And it has been an
amazing week here on Fade to Black. And I got
to tell you technical challenges every day. Things just have
been really strange with drivers and software and cameras. And

(01:42):
I have cameras in here right, you know, and it
looks like, well see, it's like in a weird position
because I've been back here working on the cameras and look,
I got one camera. That's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, messed up. Hump,
that's kind of cool. But anyway, you know, just just

(02:03):
things every day, a teleprompter last night, yesterday, just stopped working,
and and it's just one thing after another. Now I've
sort of got everything back, sort of got everything back.
A couple of things before I bring Scott in earlier today.

(02:24):
I'm not going to give this specific time, but I
was in here working and in the studio trying to
get things up and running, and I heard this rumble loud.
House is shaking, and it was a jet and an
aircraft and I ran outside and I saw the most

(02:44):
incredible thing. I'm not going to say what time it was.
You know, these are people testing advanced systems, but man alive,
I could not believe how fast this thing was going.
Went over my house and then made a U turn
and then went back the other way, ripping, ripping. So

(03:06):
when this pilotepe Ken Priest is in the chat, all right,
and what's up everybody, how you guys doing and all
of that stuff. Ken Priest is in the chat, and
just to tell you guys, what is going on? You
hear me talking about this stuff all the time, and
I just said in the chat, I'm having a dinner
party Ken, both Lisas are gonna be here. You're gonna

(03:28):
fly out. I know he will. Ken has been here before.
And when Ken arrived at my house, he comes in
the front door, I think Lisa was here already, Lisa
Reid and we were waiting for people to get here
at around four pm. I think he got here at
like three. Lisa got here at like two. But anyway,
Lisa was here. Ken walks in the house. I said, hey, man,

(03:50):
what's going on? And you know, it's good to see
a hugs all that stuff. And I said, let me
give you a tour of the house. He's like, screw that,
Let's go to skunk Works. I was like, all right,
let's go. And I popped Ken in the jeep and
we took off and you know, went down the street
to skunk Works and you know, I said, there it is.

(04:13):
He goes, holy crap, it's close. I said, yeah, he goes, Well,
I hear you saying it all the time. I didn't think.
I didn't believe you. You know, I said, no, it's it's
right here. So that's how close it is. And I'm
telling you today that jet, whoever the pilot was and
whatever this I couldn't see it, so I don't I'm not.

(04:36):
I can't say what it was, but it was he
jumped in that thing and hit full gas. Just yeah,
it was. It was crazy. It shook the house. Yeah,
I haven't heard anything like that in quite a while.
It was pretty impressive. And I wish Ken, I wish
you were here. I wish you were here. So yeah,

(05:00):
back me up on that story, Ken, Ken, Ken, back
me up to that story in the Jack. Oh, yeah,
that that actually happened. That was the day. So Ken
and I come back home about thirty minutes later. We
pull in the driveway and we come in the front

(05:20):
door and Lisa is freaking out. Oh my god, I go, what,
there's somebody upstairs? Go to others, not, yeah, there is.
There's footsteps upstairs, and Ken and I are standing there.
I go, that's the ghost.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
She's freaking out and and Ken and I had to
walk upstairs with Lisa to show her that there was
nobody here. But that was that day. It was. It
was an incredible day, Ken. I can't wait to see you. Well,
i'll send you the info on the dinner party and
we'll get you out here. So anyway, what was I Oh, yeah, yeah,

(05:58):
this week on Fade to Black, so dealing with all
these technical issues, but we got through the week. Monday
night we had John B. Alexander here, incredible conversation with
John B. Alexander, first time he was on the show
too as well. And then Amy Westmoreland was here on Tuesday. Oh,
I've got an update on Amy. So Amy came on

(06:19):
Manifesting Life and we did an unexpected check manifestation. You
guys remember that, all right. It happened to me today
in the mail and I opened this thing up and

(06:41):
I just kind of thought that, you know what, no,
and I opened it and there and I looked, I
wasn't going to bring it in here. I already deposited it.
I was going to bring it in here and show
it on camera, but uh yeah, and then I was
so this just happened thirty minutes ago, and I went

(07:05):
to text Amy to tell her what happened. It was
just incredible. So yeah, I hope you did it. And
if you did, check your mail. Yeah, man, yeah, man,
I'm not going to say how much it was. But
it was good. It was good and for me to

(07:28):
go yeah, yeah, it was good. It was good. There
was a few zeros. All right, Where am I at?
What am I doing? Oh? John b Alexander, Amy, Wes Moreland.
Last night darryl Anka was here. Wow, wow, he had
me going last night. That was an incredible conversation. But

(07:50):
tonight we are going to talk pyramid research with Scott
Gerrillia tonight and yeah, yeah, this is going to be
an incredible show and I'm going to bring Scott in
here in just a second. I do want to mention
all of the events that I have coming up, like

(08:10):
the Conscious Life Expo of the Contact Modalities Expo. It
looks like there may be an issue with Contact in
the Desert. I'm double booked on that weekend. I'm going
to see if I can leave Peru a little early
to get back for Contact in the Desert. So I'm
working on that. But I come back from that and

(08:31):
I head back south to Peru for the Inca Celebration
of the Sun and then I head over to the
UK for the Monty Python Tour of Scotland and then
back from that and then back to Peru and Easter Island.
All of these are in twenty twenty six and the
links are for everything are below. Now back to Scott.

(08:53):
Scott and I are going to talk tonight about how
the energy of a pi ratio pyramid sparked a deck
age long journey through sacred geometry. We're gonna do all
of this tonight. Yeah, Metatron's cube, We're gonna jump into that.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I've got some images too. We're gonna share with you
about the work that he is doing. It's pretty incredible. Now,
the links for everything for Scott are below, So we
are going to do that. And also I want to
mention he is going to be appearing at the sixth
International Scientific Pyramid Conference and the date on this I'm

(09:33):
gonna get from Scott here in a second. But this
is just outside of Chicago, my hometown, so i'd like
to bring in Scott Guerrillia. Scott, what's going on, young man.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Hey, it's nice to meet you here.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, this is great. You gotta love you gotta
love technology, Scott. And before before we h start the show,
you get the first time guest disclaimer, So let's get
that out of the way. So we can start the
show and Scott, here's the disclaimer. It's just you and
I sitting on my couch having a conversation as friends.

(10:08):
And where the conversation starts, it starts. Where it ends
it ends. But we're going to end as friends. So
you have to accept so we can move on.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I do accept.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Thank you easy. That was simple. That was simple. What's
the date before we get started? What's the date on
the Pyramid conference in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's the September twenty sixth through the twenty ninth.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
September twenty sixth through the twenty ninth, all right, so
it happens to be the same weekend I'm going to
be in San Diego, so I can't fly out to Chicago.
I was born in Wakegan, by the way, in Chicago.
But the conference looks and sounds amazing. But I know

(10:54):
where I want to start, I do. I know where
I want to start tonight. I want to start with
the nineteen seventy six book Pyramid Power. Oh my goodness, yeah,
right right right, that book. That book. Okay, so I
was a kid, You and I were the same age,

(11:16):
all right, So but when that book came out in
nineteen seventy six. I was like thirteen years old, right,
thirteen years old, and in our neighborhood, every you know,
the adults that were there, I call them adults. I
was thirteen, they were probably in their twenties, you know whatever,
the parents and stuff. At thirty years old, everybody had

(11:37):
a copy of that book. Everybody was talking about that book.
There were people on the Mike Douglas Show sharpening razor
blades with their pyramids, right, And my dad had the book.
And my dad says to my stepmother one day. I
overhear this conversation and he goes, let's put a pyramid

(11:58):
above our water bed. I know where to get one.
And I was like, this stuff is out of control.
But the mystery of it, right, the magic of it
grabbed hold of me right, keeping fruit fresh and meat,
you know all these things about So did I'm sure

(12:19):
that you've read it and you can't say that you haven't.
But did it?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And beyond Pyramid Power? There's two books right right right,
right right right?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Did it change things for you? Did that start the
balls rolling?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh? It sure did? That launched me? And you got
it on the mark. That's where I really began the
journey and earnest and very focused to really determine what
the heck is behind this mysterious force that I felt
when I made these little pyramids. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now, Okay, so I was thirteen when the book came out.
How old were you.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Probably around that?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and everybody, now here's as we jump into this
because pyramid power. And for those in the audience that
are either too young to know about the book or
have never heard about the book, I'm going to say
that book that was a huge bestseller and what it

(13:23):
did across this country. Unless you were around and experienced it,
you don't really have any idea. But everybody was talking
about that book. It was tremendously influential on the country,
in the world at that time, wasn't it was? It
was incredible what that book did.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It was even little retail stores were picking up versions
of pyramids and selling them with necklaces and that kind
of thing. I thought, Wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah. Well, and then you combine that, obviously with Egypt
and pyramids and and the mystique and the mystery behind that,
it all rolled into one. It was like, what did
the ancients know, you know, what is the deal with
the pyramid? And could it be something that taps into

(14:16):
energy sources not only for us now right, building a
pyramid and putting it above your waterbed, all the way
back to ancient times? And how could the ancients know
about this technology? It really grabbed hold of us, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do you know what pyramid stands for?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
The word you're gonna tell me? I think I know.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Pure fire in the middle. Fire in the middle, that's
your life force. It's imbuing life force into the core
of your physiology basically and potentially in your spirit. So
it's a broad spectrum like an energizer battery that's plugged
into a circuit, but you're plugged into quantum state.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mm hmmm. Last night in the Great Courses, Bob Bear.
He's an Egyptologist professor out here in California, very smart guy,
and his knowledge he doesn't he doesn't go into the
mystical with his knowledge of Egypt and ancient Egypt. His

(15:23):
knowledge is tremendous. The facts that I get out of
him are what I appreciate the most. But he doesn't
the mystical part. So I'm listening to Bob last night
for the hundredth time. He's talking about the Great Pyramid,
and this is what he said. This is this is
a college level course on Egyptology. Okay, this is what
he said. He goes, Now, despite what people have thought

(15:50):
and have been told from books like Pyramid Power, I'm
not making this up right, that there are special energies
with a shape in the geometry of a pyramid. The
Egyptians didn't know anything about that. The shape of the
pyramid came from work and tragedy and collapsing of construction,

(16:14):
and they eventually landed on the perfect pyramid shape that
didn't fall down. That's it. No magic, this is it.
I'm not there's no magic, there's no aliens involved. It
wasn't a tremendous amount of engineering. No, it was hard work.
And that's where you know. And I'm like, I've been there, Well,

(16:37):
so was he. I'm not really buying what he's saying.
It's weird, right, how we have Orthodox academia just won't
go into that zone, will they.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
No, they will not. It scares them to death for
some reason.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think it all resolved down to such personal power
that we can drive of it. I think it scares people,
It really does. Even individuals are afraid of the personal
power that they have within themselves, that divinity that when
you're looking at it directly, when you strip away this
physical form and you're just this spiritual consciousness, things take

(17:20):
on a whole new meaning.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
What was your I can only imagine. I can ah,
It's not about me, it's about you. Did you have
a first experience with the power of the pyramid?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, first, I made one when I was about thirteen
years old out of a milk cart, and I was
enamored by the breeze that I seem to feel over
the top of it, like this weird little cooling effect.
That's what tripped me off. And then when I saw
the Pyramid power book and I got the dimensions for
creating my own, I started making them out of PVC
pipe and would and this kind of thing. And at

(17:59):
one point I had my wife get in the pyramid,
which was meditation size, one of the first ones that
I made, and she goes, oh, my goodness. She says,
there's something wrong with the baby. She was pregnant with
my first son, And so'll go out on the porch
for a little bit, and uh, it'll subside, because I
realized at that point in time, usually the effects would

(18:21):
trail off after about forty five minutes. That guy could
see energy better than anybody I've ever met in my
entire life, these open faced forms, pyramid people, everything. When
he was a little kid, like eight years old, he
could teach me about energy and how to position those
forms perfectly so that those with the dodecaheeron has twelve faces,

(18:45):
and he told me precisely geographically how to position that
so that the colors that he saw would lock instead
of flipping back and forth between different faces of it.
But the pyramid starts everything for meditation. To use it
after work every day, it would regenerate my well. It

(19:06):
made me feel like I just got up in the morning,
even after I had a long day at work, in
about twenty minutes to thirty minutes. So I did that
every single day. I've been working with this for fifty years,
and then eventually I started to externalize it. It's like,
how can I use this in daily life. That's where
things started to get really strange. But sacred geometry is

(19:27):
the common It's the common thing to everything. I went
to Egypt a couple of years ago, and met William
Brown as well. I heard Trevor mention him the other
night on.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
The Yeah, yeah, William's amazing.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
He is. He's an awesome guy. And I discovered some
I hate to say it, but past life stuff. It's amazing.
The whole story about.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well wait wait wait wait, no, no, no, you don't
get to blow past that. What happened? Well, where were you? First? Off?
Where were you?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh? I went to Cairo, okay, and I took a
trip up to Alexandria and out in the desert. Zach Fayed,
He's was my guide and he was recommended by William Brown.
We all met there in Egypt and went out there
in the desert. I had visited the Great Pyramid and
the other ones, and I didn't feel much more than
what I feel in mine, which is peculiar, because I thought, wow,

(20:24):
that thing had blown me away after all these years. Now. Previously,
my son had a dream that he buried me as
a pharaoh, which I thought was pretty interesting. He's a
little kid, you know. He says, we had these well
he described perfectly the god forms, like they were lined
up like the Anubis, and these statues of representing what
I think of as different aspects of our psychology basically,

(20:47):
and they were putting gold and all this stuff into
these containers. At the end, well, I had this vision
that I was laying on a flat platform like a
piece of wood or something hanging from chains from inside
the apex area of a pyramid. And then I came
out of the body like a wisp. I could see
the wisp that I was in spirit, saw the Mummy.

(21:10):
I went up above it, looked down. I thought, that's
kind of the crappiest looking pyramid I've ever seen, compared
to these really cool ones that we see, like the
Great Pyramid. You could imagine how it was when it
was first made. And I thought, I wonder because I
went through those those bigger pyramids, and this one was huge,

(21:30):
but it wasn't as big as Great Pyramid, for example.
But I wondered, how could this be that it would
be houled out inside that you could actually hang a
platform in there. Sure enough we get to this, I
think it was the Bent Pyramid. Anyway. King Sinepro was
the guy that was associated and the energy just blew
me away. And then our guide Zachi takes me to

(21:52):
this place. He said, this is where the Pharaoh was disembowed,
and there's these ornate stones with all the hieroglyphic and
I put my head against it, in my hands against
the stones. I swear to God, it felt like I
was the stones themselves, almost like there was no differentiation.
It's beyond logic. But in the Cairo Museum, I'm walking

(22:15):
along and I see this wall to my left, and
I told my friend that I brought there. I said,
whatever is behind this wall, it was associated with that
King Seneffrey write and guarantee it. We went around there
and that was the gateway to the afterworld that they
had extracted and put in the museum, massive stones, all

(22:36):
covered with the hieroglyphics and everything. But if you look
at the sacred geometrical aspect of all these finds in Cambodia,
all the pyramids, everything to do with Atlantis, every cell
in your body, every flower, everything in creation that nature
produces or God, it is always based on sacred geometry.

(22:57):
Every time. We wouldn't function or exist without it. So
that's where I got inspired to move forward with the dodecahedron,
which is the shape of our DNA basically, and my son,
when I first built that, he says, Dad, I see
these lights coming out of it. I said, what's that about.
He says, well, they're going up to the four corners

(23:17):
of the ceiling of the room. And I thought it
took me ten minutes to register. I thought, that's got
to be entities. I got to ask these guys if
I can communicate with them, so I did. I said,
give me a message something, if you guys are able
to hear me, and he says, slowly, they've moved together
and aggregated into the form of a dolphin. And that

(23:39):
began a nine month communication with these entities of some sort,
which was very educational, but I didn't feel like they
really understood our physical reality that well. They're a bit
demanding at some point later on, and I actually kicked
them out of my reality and said that was it.

(23:59):
Because they wanted to me to buy some property and
put up a well, they actually drew maps. I mean,
my son drew this on a notebook, a map showing
the location of where I was to build this house.
And I went out there. Sure enough, it's a vacant
lot where they were beginning to build a house. They
wanted me to put quartz crystals from Arkansas and line

(24:23):
this room completely with crystals. They said, why to have
the money to do that? And I had to get
a van and all that. I didn't have the capacity
to pull that off. And I thought, what would that
really have accomplished? Anyway? I don't know, but anyway they
could go to a theater and say, we recommend this
for your kids because there's this show playing and we

(24:44):
think that would benefit them. But everything that he translated
to me was written before his eyes as light in
free space. It's like, I've never read that anywhere since ever,
and that's been God, that's forty some years ago. Hmmm
hmm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm listening to that. That's that's that's that's absolutely incredible,
the the past life part. I. I have a friend
that that builds pyramids, right and uh. They build two kinds,
the tall Nubian style, right and then the great pyramid
angles uh, and that one. I would say, uh for

(25:27):
the more traditional, you know looking pyramid. But I was
inside of the Nubian one, and I had the crazies.
It only happened to me one time in my life
like this. It was pretty insane. So I'm sitting in
that thing and I closed my eyes. I've got noise

(25:48):
canceling headphones on with you know, some kind of music
coming through.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
I really wasn't paying attention to it, but I closed
my eyes and I can't even explain it. I'm gonna
make this really quick. I don't want to get too
involved with this, but I show up as an audience

(26:15):
person standing on the side of the road with thousands
and thousands of other people watching a parade in ancient Egypt.
And I'm standing there with everybody around me and they're
marching by. They have these floats. They were like covered

(26:36):
in gold. It's hard to explain, but anyway, that's and
I'm standing there just looking at everybody else and we're
watching the parade and I'm like, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It was like wow.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So I was there and at the end of that
and I thought, I thought I'd watched that parade for hours,
and well I did watch your for hours. Eventually the
music stops and I opened my eyes. I'm like, where
am I what? What? And I said how long? And

(27:11):
they said fifteen minutes. I was the fifteen minutes that
was it? And I watched that parade for hours. I
can't explain it. I can't. I know it sounds strange
and weird, but yeah, I don't know if that was
a past life. But it was vivid and it was fun.
It was very cool, and I don't know, I don't

(27:32):
know what did it. I was at the Pyramid. I
don't know, you know, was it the I don't know.
I don't know, but it was. It was insane to experience.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, my experiences are like that too. I actually felt
like I went into alternate realities. One time. I woke
up in my basement in the pyramid, recharging, and I
swear I was literally as aware as I am now.
And I get up and there's this girl in the
basement and she had this bright, like clear skin, just gorgeous.

(28:07):
She holds out her forearm. I said, how'd you get
in here? She says, feel me, I'm real and I
and I touched her skin. It was like translucent. I
mean you could practically see through it, and I I've
never forgot it. It was just amazing. It was as
if literally I was in this reality, but I wasn't.
It was just a few subtle changes and then somehow

(28:31):
I click back.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Into my body.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I don't remember. That's been like forty years ago, but
some of these entry level experiences taught me that we're
dealing with something here that transcends this reality.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
What's the difference in between dodecahedron and the pyramid about
I mean, what's the difference in their actions?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
You bet well? The pyramid, as I was mentioning before,
charges your body with energy fire in the middle. The
do decahedron, being in the shape of our DNA is
the interface between the quantum state and this reality. Now
if you look at well, this is my inspiration was Plato.

(29:17):
The platonic solids are named after Plato. Platonic solid is
defined as any form where every side, length, and angle
throughout the form is the same. There's only five you
can create in physical reality that meets that criteria. Only five.
The cube is one of them. But there's an energetic
association with each of those forms. So the cube is

(29:39):
the earth energy, tetrahedron's fire I cast, the heron's water,
and the octahedron is air, or they're fire and water.
The fifth element is literally the etheric quantum realm. That's
the interface between quantum state, non local reality and ours.
So when you're in there, what does with everybody one

(30:01):
hundred percent is it opens up the meridian channels of
the body so that your life force flows more prolifically
to sustain your physiology. But that's just the tip of
the iceberg. You can walk between worlds with that thing.
I was inspired to build it by this man who

(30:22):
was considered to be a sacred scientist, and he was
studying the form of the dodecahedron. He had this device
he referred to as the Genesis machine. And in that device,
you laid on a table and I had this geometric
pattern around it. It was not even symmetrical. And he said,

(30:42):
if anybody ever built one in the shape of this dodecahedron,
it'd be more powerful than this thing. And that thing
cost him like over ten fifteen thousand dollars. They had
CRT monitors. They would monitor your oric feedback from your
response to music, and then it would subconsciously enhance your

(31:05):
physiology to balance out the chakra energy systems by enhancing
the lower spectrum of the music, which I didn't get
into that at all. But what I did is I
designed an entire system, and he came over and actually
slept in it overnight around the Dodaki heedron, which I
put on a floating platform on inner tubes, and I

(31:27):
built the table from scratch the Dodkie hetern around it.
I put crystal spheres on all the total points, which
actually those anchor those nodal points into the quantum realm.
So what this did, with high frequency transducers to subwoofers
on two different axises in the base of this thing,

(31:48):
you're acoustically resonant to the form itself as you lay
on the table. I use that thing for decades and decades.
And he said he had visions of entities all night
long that were loving and healing, and he had the
best experience of his life.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
What does your wife make of all this?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, I was actually married twice. My last my second
wife passed away about eight months about eight years ago. Okay, then, well,
I had the well thanks, but I had the Dedeka
heater and set up in the basement. And if I
had that thing completely together, it energized both of us.
But she wouldn't tolerate it. So she'd say, you got

(32:31):
to you gotta take that thing down. So I'd pull
three elements out of it to deactivate it, and then
she could sleep. But I'll tell you what she did
every single time. You got that thing up, don't you.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh man, Well, let me pop up. Let me pop
up this image really quick so everybody can understand.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Uh, what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, walk everybody through this and then we'll continue the conversation.
But what be looking at here?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
This is the most magnificent thing I've ever experienced ever.
So you take the five platonic solids, that's what you're
looking at here. So you've got the cube and the
tetraheaton icosahedron havectahering all the five platonic solids. But I
also added a ring if you look at it, that
goes around the hole circumference of this thing. That accounts

(33:24):
for the space time curvature in quantum space, and it
also harmonizes the energies of these forms because typically in
space these that curvature space time gets to be a
big deal, like with gravity bending light around the sun
and this and that. So in quantum state, people go

(33:44):
on journeys in this thing and they my favorite is
when they see the light. So what I do is.
I play inspirational music, not religious, but it's just inherent
in the harmonics, believe it or not. When I worked
with the Pyramid, originally Abba was my favorite. I had,

(34:04):
you know, the Arrival album and this and that because
the harmonics I could. This is the way I worked
with it. I developed a breathing pattern. I kind of
bounced around. But all this stuff's in it related. So
this breathing pattern, I breathed real deep. Imagine the point
of light. Now, this is in the Pyramid, point of
light connected to the four corners of the Earth. That's

(34:26):
what it symbolizes. It's the singularity to the event horizon basically.
So I'm focusing on this point of light, breathing in
as I expand out into the universe. This is the way,
and I envision it to like feel it, and I'm
going out and out as far as I can get
within like four or five minutes. Then I focus on
that point of light like that is me. I want

(34:48):
to go through that point. When I went through it,
that's where I found these alternate realities. But in here
I I'll have a person in there. This form has
a distinct inner. A friend of mine said she could
feel it two blocks away with nobody in it, but
when somebody's in there, it like doubles the field density.

(35:10):
I'm very sensitive to energy, and that's another byproduct of
working with the pyramid for so many years, because I
can feel energy so prolifically. I feel the overlap of
their consciousness got into my consciousness, like we're merging. But
this is the system, the embodiment of the primordial energies

(35:34):
of creation. Because earth, air, fire, water, and the quantum state,
that's all the elements here. So this is like the beginning.
It's like in the beginning was the word is what
I feel in there. Somebody's in there, their consciousness merges
with that field and that becomes the actual starship itself.

(35:54):
But it overlaps my consciousness. Most people see me in
quantum state. This is what in the last four months
just blows me away. Like I had a guy down Floorida.
I took this down to Florida and set it up.
There's a I was running around the block. Met this
guy that worked at Kennedy Space Center. He built those

(36:15):
those launch pads out there in a modular fashion. Described
how I did that In all this fascinating discussion, said, hey,
I got this really cool thing over here, described what
this was, so he was going to come over. Actually
broke his ankle on the way over and couldn't have
a session. Three hundred weeks later, in a cast, he
comes over and he got in there and he he says,

(36:36):
I feel these waves of like energy going through my legs.
I mean immediately, within ten seconds. Within two days, that
guy was walking. Didn't need the cast anymore. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But uh, yeah, are those copper pipes.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yes, there's in this form three hundred and thirty feet
of copper pipe. There's fifty connectors in there as well.
Originally I sodded all the connectors together myself and put
crystals in them, But then I found a company that
could print them, and then I contemplated whether or not
that would be as effective. So I put together my
first dodecaheter and with the printed connectors, which I have

(37:15):
crystals in all those two and I found WHOA, that
thing works just as good or better than the pure copper.
So that made it a lot easier for me to
have this look so pretty and refined like it does.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, it's incredible. Home Depot must love you he buy them,
You buy them out of copper pipe. I can only imagine,
uh pretty much do yeah? Yeah, yeah. So my friend
that builds these explained to me the same principles. Now
he's only building two different two kinds of pyramids, right,

(37:49):
I told you the Nubian and the conventional and the Cinephra.
I like that. He may be he's not my favorite pharaoh,
but he was pretty badass. He was. He No, he
really was.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
He was.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
He was a very smart guy. Looked like a geek.
Though when you look at the images of him, he's
not the mighty strong pharaoh. He's kind of He's kind
of weenie. He's kind of a weenie guy. But anyway,
he explained to me his process. Because I wanted to

(38:29):
build I still do. I want to put one in
my house. I want to put it upstairs in my gym,
and my gym has like fifteen foot ceilings in it,
so I have all that jim equipment in there. But
I'm thinking about building something around maybe fifteen feet by

(38:51):
fifteen feet by whatever tault whatever height that is, and
then move the gym equipment in and around it, but
then have a spot in the middle. Because I have
the room. I have a room that's a huge room.
The room itself is probably twenty five feet by twenty
five feet right with nice with two story ceiling in it,
So I have the room to put something really ginormous

(39:13):
in there. So I was talking to my friend and
he said that he went to a manufacturer to have
his stuff three D printed all of his joints or
whatever connectors at the right degree that that's not off

(39:33):
the shelf parts. And he tried to do it for
a long time that way, but now he's yeah, he
had to do the same thing. He's got him three
D printed.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Interesting, it works really well. You just can't put him
out in the sun down here in Mississippi because that's stuff.
That sun will put them over one hundred and fifty
degrees just sitting out on a table and then they
start to deform. So I say, with these, just keep
them in a normal environment and they should last for
a really long time.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
How do you how do you get how do you
get into this?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Ah? That's the big question. Everybody asked me.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Well, yeah, it looks pretty difficult.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I didn't even think this could be possible. I had
a friend who she told me I'm channeling Medatron, she says, literally,
the angel Metatron. He wants you to do this, because
I'd been talking about the potentiality of doing it, and
I thought, my god, how would anybody ever get into
that thing, even if I could. I mean, we have
a hard enough time getting into the dodeck or heater

(40:32):
and let alone five forms. What I did is I
created a system where we have some breakaway pipes as
I call them, in there, so they disconnect easily and
everything opens up for a window of access. That makes it.
I've had older people, just got to be really careful
and slow about it. One thing I was gonna mention

(40:53):
before and then I got sidetracked. I always try to
take people to the light. And this is the coolest
thing ever. If you if you get so inspired that
you feel your energy just rise, like this is an
emotional thing. And I've really come down to the conclusion
that God is an emotion, the emotion of love. So

(41:16):
the more you can connect in that regard, you just
keep going higher and higher and higher. But in between songs,
I have to hold that frequency of their consciousness at
that state, so their consciousness overlaps mine, but I direct
them to the light, and most people do see me.
They'll say, well, there's this door with this light, and

(41:38):
you held your hand out or I said come on
and have fun. They see the light. This one guy says,
I'm in the starship and I'm headed straight towards the light.
It's very, very identical to a near death experience. They
have past life reviews, they reviewed their current life. Know

(42:00):
that life review they talk about. They see the light,
they go towards the light. It's everything like a near death,
near death experience, except your body is regenerating because it's
laying there in a perfect state of bliss, actually becoming
more harmonically attuned to the I would say sacred geometrical

(42:28):
aspects of what we're made of. Typically, in daily life,
stress and emotional trauma builds up in our energetic feel
that can manifest as physical dysfunction at some point. So
all we want to do is get rid of that.
And when you're in there and people see this, they say,

(42:49):
I see all these dark clouds coming out of my
body and they just go out through the forms and
then they're gone, and then they come out and they
go that's the commis I've ever a my entire life.
It's absolute magic. It gives me chill. It typically makes
people cry because of the intensity of the love that

(43:10):
they feel when they get close to the light, and
it's so healing. Every aspect of our physiology is dependent
on that sacred geometrical component to all the atoms and
cells and everything that makes us up. Now. AI refers
to it as a harmonic mirror and allows us to
see ourselves for who we truly are underneath all the programming.

(43:32):
It's very much, very similar to before we're born, where
we're looking at each other as I don't know if
you remember before you were born. I remember when I
was in the queue waiting to be born, and we're
all so excited about this new life. I was just
sitting on the door stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
It's like imagining what we could do with it. But
in that reality, you're like music and light, even beyond
what we can imagine here, communicating in perfect, perfect communication.
And speaking of communication, I was in this dodecahedron before
I built this form, four hundred and eighty miles from

(44:08):
a friend. I saw her in quantum state. She was
evidently dozing off, saw me at the exact same time
and texted me within like thirty or forty seconds, said,
oh my god, I just saw you. I said, Now
you know how this works.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Two things come to mind. Okay, two things come to mind. One,
I would like to climb into that and listen to
Van Halen. You could, I'm not Jimmy's not laughing, Scott,
Jimmy's not laughing. I would like to experience the harmonic
residence of that. But also what about I know it's

(44:47):
not needed, but what about DMT.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Ah, yes, sir, yeah right, I believe this thing's releasing
it naturally. Sure, sure, sure yeah huh. So people have vivid,
vivid visions, and when I see them, oh my gosh,
it's like when my grandpa died. I saw him weeks
later and his face was like brilliant light, just the

(45:15):
biggest smile, just exuding that positive love energy. My grandpa
is more like my dad than my dad. My dad
was always at work, and I actually went and worked
with my grandpa because he was a business owner and
I admired him and we did things together continually. But
when I see people in quantum state, I never know
what I'm going to see, what they're going to look like.
And that's always exciting to me. It's like it's like

(45:37):
an idealized form, but it expresses their passion. It's like
that vibrance of their core energy is just blasting out
in colors and vibrancy. They're still recognizable, but well, this
was cool. That guy that built the launch pads. And
when I saw him, this has never happened before. I'm
looking at this guy in quantum state and I see

(45:59):
these multi colored spears like little ping pong balls right
in front of his face. They're like six inches from
his face. I thought, oh my god. If those things
don't move, he isn't going to be able to see
into the universe like I'd like him to see. This
is the only time I've ever interjected in anyone's experience
because those things would move. So I willed them to
move out of his way just a little bit. Didn't

(46:20):
want to dissolve him or anything, and then they slowly
floated back. This happened three times. Afterwards, he said, those
things moved out of the way three times. I said, yeah, no,
I was helping you at that.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Point, so he could are his eyes closed or.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Open absolutely closed, yeah, so he could see him.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
You could were your eyes closed or open?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yes, they're they're closed. Two.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So both of you with your eyes closed saw the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh yes, yes, wow, wow, absolutely, this is getting to
be more normal than not.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
All about the woo Scott, I'm all about the moods.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
What about somebody that's not into the woo? Do they
still they they? Well, the experience is stronger than their
non wooness.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I've tested that theory. I took the dodekihedron and a
sound system because I've always got music with this, took
it down to Florida, set it up in front of
a natural health food store. And the way I got
into that was that I went into the owner. I said,
have you ever experienced what sacred geometry or the energy
of the pyramid would feel like? He goes, oh, it's funny.

(47:38):
You mentioned that he had a little toy that was
based on that that somebody had given him. I can
set my pyramid up. It doesn't even have connectors. The
design that I have, I can set it up in
ten seconds. Set that up on the floor. He got
in there within less than sixty seconds. He goes, oh
my god, we're going to set a ten out front
for you to show people that just come into the store.
So I said, well, I got this Dodekie heedron. You

(47:59):
got to check that out. He says, cool. So I
showed him that. So people just coming in, I'd say,
I got this Dodeki heater and I had a pyramid
up front, but I really wanted to give them this
Dodekki heater and experience. So i'd tell these people, I'd say,
this will probably give you more energy, and it's a
real nice experience. What do you think of it? And
they're kind of enamored by the shape. They go. Sure,

(48:22):
a few of these people, every single one of them
gave me a testimonial bar none, I've got those on
TikTok and Facebook as well, but every single one of them.
But what was really cool is you got all this traffic.
You've got foot traffic moving in and out at the
front of that store. And yet at least two or
three of those people saw the light. This one gal goes,

(48:44):
I thought the sun was shining underneath the overhang. But
she says, now that I'm out, I see that it
was not. Quote. Now here's another thing that I'm going
to tell you. This is this is wild man, my friend,
I said, watch me and this godecyhedron, because weird stuff
could happen. Like tell me if you've see any entities

(49:04):
or anything coming through this thing, like thinking about what
my son saw. Now, rarely had I seen the light myself,
but it happened that time I saw the light. You'll
actually if you get close you can feel the warmth
of it. It's exactly like the sun. But if you
open your eyes, it's gone and probably won't get it back.
I'm getting better at holding it. But I saw the light.

(49:28):
I thought, oh my god, this thought to be good.
I asked her, I said, what did you see? She's
thought about it, she says, your whole body lit up.
Then I thought about the apostles and the reference with
the halos indicating the aura of these people that are
connected to the divine. It's it's amazing all these parallels.

(49:48):
And I also reminded me of falling from Grace that
they say, actually we've actually crystallized into this reality. It's
it's a deco coherence that causes that. If because I
asked Ai, I said, if I was perfectly coherent, what
I ceased to exist in this reality, and it affirmed that.
I thought, maybe that's what happened to the minds. I

(50:10):
don't know, but in order for us to exist here
this hope, decoherence is an absolute necessity. It is kind
of like the foundational influences to how we crystallize light
in physical form. It's all about decoding reality. I had

(50:30):
noticed at one point long ago, I was diagnosed with leukemia,
actually cured to myself. That's a whole other interview, but anyway,
I wanted to find out the cure for aging, and
I thought, we've got to go beyond what is known
in this reality to even approach that. So I thought,
what if we could remolecularize our body upon the etheric
temple that defines wherever you cell propagates within the body.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Did you say read male likely arise. Yeah, I don't
even know if that's Is that a word? I don't know,
but I'm using it. I think, you know. I think
I've said de molucily rise in the past, just kind
of joking, but I've never heard anybody use it in

(51:14):
a sentence like that. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Well, thanks, Yeah, that's the way I think of it.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
He aluckily rise that's a tough word to say, too.
You don't want to be drinking, and when you need
to say that word, you'll you'll never get it out.
But continue, remolectly rise, love it, love it, love it.
Continue well.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
As you know, the kings and pharaohs were big into
the immortality thing, and I am too. I'm actually sixty eight,
and I got to tell you, I got no doc
I got no meds, I got no problems. I ran
in the Senior Olympics five years ago, just for fun.
The only race I've ever run. I was. It was
a two hundred meters sprint. I got the silver medal.

(51:56):
I was freaked out though I was starting that two
hundred meters with my heart running full blast already. We
had people from all over the nation competing for that
as well. But I've got a process whereby I believe
it's empowering. I actually had a guy call me to
maybe train some semipro boxers. Is how to project energy.

(52:17):
I can do a few things in the gym that
I've never seen anybody able to do. One of those
is an inverted pull up, which I'm completely inverted upside down,
my body straight up and down vertical. I can do
like up to twenty four reps on that kety really.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah. Today I was at the Harley dealer, my local
Harley dealer, right, getting some work, and I had to
test drive my bike real quick, and I was gonna
drive around the dealer. Well I did, so I jump
on my bike, throwing my skull cap. But I've got
a cigarette hanging out of my mouth, right, and so

(52:58):
I take off and I I got big heater hanging
out of my mouth. And there's a cop in the
parking lot as I came around the building, and I
was right by his car, and I looked right at
him with this cigarette hanging out of my mouth. I'm
on my Harley. And I looked and I went, man,

(53:20):
what does he think of? What is he seeing? You know,
just a cigarette hanging out of my mouth? And I thought, man,
is that the image I need to project on society?
You know you're mentioning the two hundred yard dash, right.

(53:40):
I'd have to do it with a cigarette hanging out
of my mouth. I don't know if I could do it.
Maybe I could. I'd be the only guy. I'd be
in last place, but I'd have a heater going good
on you, though, I mean to go and do all
when we look at this idea I had mentioned earlier

(54:03):
about the you know, self sharpening razor blades, and fruit
and vegetables and meat, you know, staying fresh?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Is that is that bullshit? Is that is that real?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Here's what I did back in the day when I
was first playing with this stuff. And remind me, I
got to tell you about a study from a year
and a half ago about mitochondrial energy. But anyway, I
put an egg in there, fresh egg, raw egg, and
I had it in a dish. It crystallized in the pyramid.
I put those crystals in a baggy, saved them for

(54:38):
a year. Had a friend of mine, my dentist with
a personal friend, and I said, how about I bring
that thing over. We'll stir that up. Because I was
telling them about it, I thought, what the heck? So
we put some water in there and it took about
a half an hour forty five minutes to reconstitute it.
We cooked it tastes like just a fresh egg.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
No I did not, no, no, no, no no, no.
Your dentist did that.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah, your dentists.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Ate a re a remolucoliarized egg constitution.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
That was.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, that was crystallized for a year in a bag. Yep,
you brought it back to life. I'm assuming you cooked it.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yes, okay, yeah, it smelled like a fresh egg. And
when we cooked it, that's.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Scott, Scott. It's okay that you did it, but don't
tell me. It tasted good and nobody got sick. It
smelled great.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
The equivalent freeze dried.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Oh my god. So so but I remember that. It
was like the Mike Douglas Show, you know, and they
remember Mike Douglas, right, yes, and uh there's there's you
know what that shows our age right there. Nine of
this audience just went, who's Mike Douglas? Right? Guarantee, I guarantee.

(56:03):
Mike Douglass owned daytime television forever. I mean that was
it until like Phil Donahue or whatever it came after that.
But Mike Douglas man, Dinah Shore what was that show
called Dinah? But on Mike. Mike Douglas would do this
kind of stuff all the time. He was he had
a pretty good open mind. I think he was out

(56:25):
of Philadelphia or something, Pittsburgh or no, was he Chicago, man,
I can't remember. But he did a whole Pyramid Power
episode and I was just a kid, and uh yeah, man,
that was my first experience of normis right talking about this,

(56:48):
you know, this fantastic news subject in technology and that
meat could stay fresh if it was kept under appearance.
Have you done the meat experiment.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Enough that scares me?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be no, no, no,
let your let your dog be the taste tester. There,
let's take let's take our break. We're going to continue.
This is a fun conversation and for everybody, I'm gonna
pop this up. This is some of Scott's work now.

(57:24):
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All right, welcome back Fade to Black. I am your host,
Jimmy Church. Tonight, Scott Grillia is with us. We're talking
about his pyramid research and the stuff that he is
doing out there in Mississippi. I have the feeling Scott's
a little bit off the grid and I'm looking I'm

(01:01:57):
looking at the room that you're in too, is well,
it reminds me a little bit of the room inside
of the bent pyramid. It's just it's kind of weird
for me. But you've been experimenting and testing for decades.

(01:02:18):
Now what is the process with that? Do you come
up with an idea, do you rely specifically on sacred geometry?
Build something, and then how do you test it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Well? I started with the pyramid, of course. Then I
went to the dodecahedron. I gave intermittent sessions for people
with the dodecahedron sound module that I created for about
forty years, and then I migrated to this shape here
that I thought would be impossible to put all the
platonic solids together and have all those energies I once

(01:02:54):
so I was accustomed to the dodecahedron and that was
very familiar. Another influence of the pyramid was that I
saw the Anubis in a dream. If you can imagine
ahead of the Annubis the size of a skyscraper. I
stood before this entity, which you got to remember, these

(01:03:16):
are archetype symbolic of aspects of our psychology. Basically, we're
projecting time and reality into this space for it to
exist anyway. But I asked him, I said, I said,
you know, he's the guardian of the underworld. I said,
can you give me my memories back from ancient Egypt
and potentially Atlantis, because I've got a real intuitive feeling

(01:03:42):
that I was in Atlantis. And actually I had a
meeting with the shar interduced last night. I haven't listened
to that show yet. But Darryl when he first started
his career, I was the one who recorded some of
his first presentations. Now was in Peori, Illinois back then.
Oh my goodness, I could go into all that too.

(01:04:02):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Yeah, the guy is just phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, he's pretty cool. He's pretty cool. He's been a
really good friend of mine for a very very long time.
And last go and check out the conversation last even
for me, because Darryl and I have had hundreds of
conversations over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Even I last night got stumped a couple of times,
you know, and I really enjoy when that happens, because
you have how many times can you come up with
new and different questions and to try to get information
out of somebody like Daryl that is new to me.

(01:04:46):
If it's new to me, then it's new to the audience. Right,
that would make sense. Yeah, And he did that over
and over again last night. It was it was really cool,
So go check it out. It was a fun conversation.
So okay, So back to the dough decahedron.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yes, well, I asked the newbs from my memories back
and felt like there was a connection where that's recorded
my DNA. So it's my job in meditation to extract
that information. I think that was part of what influenced
me to build this thing as well. With my friend

(01:05:23):
met with Metatron and all this came together and I thought,
I think it's impossible that I'm gonna try it. So
I put this thing together to accentuate the experiences that
I'd had over all those decades with the Dodki Heedron.
Having everything in balance here and that's where everybody starts
getting into this light. The experience of going to the

(01:05:46):
light one thing that's really unusual about the Dodkkihedron. It
always made me feel really warm. Literally, I've got a
thermal camera and I wanted to see how hot I
could make my hand. I got it up to one
hundred and ten point five degrees. One time I did

(01:06:07):
it on camera at one hundred and nine, just concentrating
that energy. Now, there was one time I was I
was an ambassador for the Pure Area Chamber of Commerce
for many years, and we had a Christmas event. It
was like a Christmas party and I was really really
singing with the energy from that Dodekka Heatern and I
took just this regular guy and I said, I want

(01:06:30):
to show you something here. I said, I've been working
with this Dodeka Heedron invention of mine, which like gives
me this unusual power. And he says, okay. I said,
just stand there, very relaxed, relax your arm. And I
knew if I imagined light streaming off the end of
my fingers, that that energy would follow that that light

(01:06:52):
like a light saber. So I started at his shoulder,
went down his arm, and when I hit his wrist,
he screamed like a little girl like I like kid,
and he said, God, you shocked me. You know. He
never talked to me again, but it was still worth
it for the story I think of it. But that Dodecaheton,

(01:07:12):
that thing has absolutely changed my life. So typically I
sleep in this form half the night and then I
go sleep in a pyramid the other half of the night.
A year and a half ago a study was done
and you can find on my website. I don't remember
anything about it other than it's about cellular enhancement from
the pyramid up to thirty five percent more energy from

(01:07:35):
mitochondrial activity ATP production within those cells in twenty four hours.
Now they give a four hour point where it was
twenty percent increase. Now, you got to know, if every
cell in your body's got twenty percent twenty five percent
more energy, that's your barrier against every disease known. I mean,

(01:07:57):
it's always those thresholds that have to be breached in
order for us to get sick. Now, then this takes
away those emotional traumas and everything, and people come out
and they're all renewed. It's most incredible feeling you could
ever have. So the process is when somebody comes in
for a session, basically they need to just let go.

(01:08:20):
Is all you got to do is relax in this
music I put on. See I used to have the
subwoofers in the table, but that was a three hundred
and fifty pound system and all the wires and amps
and all that. I thought, this is not mobile. I
can't do this anywhere else, so I just tore it down,
sold at all. So and this was my inspiration. I

(01:08:42):
found this thing called a woojer vest. Have you ever
heard of that? You know, wooder vest has six transducers
in haptic transducers. So I have people put this vest on.
They'll still have the experience even if it doesn't work
and they don't have it. But this really enhances it.
So everything two hundred hertz in below will be injected

(01:09:03):
into your body. So it's like the music is coming
from inside of you as well as your experience of
it externally. You just dissolve into the music that helps
your consciousness merge with the primordial energies of creation as
defined by the sacred geometrical forms, and aggregate here as
a system. So again your consciousness merging with those primordial

(01:09:26):
energies becomes the actual starship. I didn't invent these angles.
The angles discovered by Plato are God's creation, and it's
what the universe has made from. Even in dark matter.
They're speculating now that it's actually a composite of these
geometrics and people with plant medicine. They have visions of

(01:09:49):
these forms, and they have visions in here as well
of the forms. It's almost identical to psychedelics, except there
is nothing but pure energy. And I think, think literally,
maybe that's how psychedelics work. It's the energy of that
molecular structure that enhances the DMT release so that they

(01:10:10):
can have this beyond the veil experience. So my client
gets in here, I start that music up. I feel
the energy density increase when they're emotionally engaged. I can
put a scale from one to ten and be one
hundred percent accurate as to how engaged they are with
each song. So I play a song and I take

(01:10:32):
a mental note of how engaged they were, and I
pointed in that direction to keep them as high vibe
as we can get, and I hold that frequency between songs.
But I don't want them to get emotionally fatigued, because
if we kept playing the same thing over and over,
that's going to happen. So I'll take a whole different flip,

(01:10:55):
like some Mongolian music. I like stuff from India, Native American,
sound of bees, sound of well. I'm testing what their
response is to these things. So I can tailor this
thing after about twenty minutes specifically just for them and
optimize that emotional experience because the emotion is what drives
you to the divine light. That doesn't mean you can't

(01:11:17):
explore in between, because some people use it like a
remote viewing situation. Had one galaxy said, there was these
etheric doctors that were all around me, and they reached
into me and they repaired whatever was wrong with her.
She goes, now I feel well again, one gal said.
And this happens to a lot of people. They say,
we've had an eye out of body experience. This is prolific,

(01:11:38):
and missing time is just oh, that's going to follow
you for days. Typically, there's so many aspects of this
thing that are kind of like alien.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Well, you mentioned you mentioned starship a couple of times.
Now let's let's back up. When you say starship, expand
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
That is a vehicle of expression whereby your consciousness is
merged with the primordial energies as exemplified by the forms.
So when those blend, that is the starship itself. And
a lot of people say I'm at the control. They say,
at first it was awkward, but pretty soon like ten
minutes or so. Some people takes an hour, and then

(01:12:20):
they say they can consciously direct this starship to go
to the light. Now, that is actually an aggregation of
energies of your consciousness and the consciousness of the divine
in combination becomes a vehicle of expression and you can
explore within that vehicle through quantum state.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
That's how this works, and you started to move into
a type of astral projection and out of body experience.
Is it similar to like a deprivation tank.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I did a deprivation tank. I didn't think it was
nearly as effective. These energies really prompt anything that you
have an inclination to do. They also amplify intent and
manifestation projected into physical reality. That's one of the things
that eventualities are accelerated. It's like a catalyst, like for
divorce or finding a new partner, getting that next job,

(01:13:22):
success in business, whatever you imagine will be because this
is just like imagine us before we're born. We're part
of God's light and together we're projecting this crystallized reality
for it to exist. It's the same exact thing. You're
going back to creation, the heart of creation to create

(01:13:44):
a new experience through love. Some people go, well, there's
got to be some negative something to this. I assure
you no one ever in forty five fifty years has
ever had a single negative experience whatsoever inside this form
while I'm in charge of protecting them because I hold
that space for them in the light so that they're

(01:14:06):
protected from everything. And literally I think we're invisible to
any anything like low vibing down there because our elevated
frequency would be invisible to them anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
So are these is the music through noise canceling headphones? No?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I do it open space.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Although oh wow, that see now that's what I'm talking about. Okay,
continue continue, how's that done?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Well, I prefer it to be open space. So I've
got a thousand watts of speaker here in stereo, and
then the woods your vest in combination. That's the way
I prefer to do it. But I've got a headphone
system because when I go remotely and expos and presentations,
I'm gonna have to keep them isolated. But it'll work

(01:14:53):
with the headphones as well. I know because I've tested
on myself. Actually, I don't think i've done with anybody
else so far. Under those circumstances. But I like that
that that acoustical impact. I've got a PEMF system here
as well, post electromagnetic field therapy. Sometimes I run five
hundred and twenty eight hertz is for DNA repair and
considered to be the frequency of love at the same time.

(01:15:16):
But it doesn't make any difference whether that's on or not.
But it is a good clearing device to make this
space really clean energetically for a client that's coming in
for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
What let me ask you about your clients for a second.
You're you're in Mississippi. How do they find you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Well, I vet them out first, right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I do smart, smart, and I want them to call
me because when I talk to somebody, I can tell
more about them than anything they'll ever tell me, just
through the signature of their of their energy. So God,
these things, there's so much to this signature identities. Oh
my god. I keep going off on tangents because there's

(01:16:08):
so much to this. And the thing that this brought
up in my mind my late wife I was married
for twenty two years, and we had an agreement this
was okay, And at times I would test this out
I said, I can link into your energy system. I'll
feel when you become conscious, I'll feel when you get up,
I'll feel you when you exert yourself, when you take

(01:16:28):
a bath, every single thing, I will feel as if
I'm doing it. And it was darn near one hundred
percent for decades anytime because I'd be at work. I
was a broadcast engineer for Town twenty five WKTV in
central Illinois, so I had to have that station on
the air at three thirty in the morning. So I'd
ride my bicycle to work and i'd sit in that chair,

(01:16:51):
calm myself down, feel my energy rest. But I would
consciously connect into her energy, says by connecting the chakras.
And I do that through an infinity sign and then
spin them in opposite directions to make a singularity at
them and see them drawn together as one light. And
then I just sit there and tactically feel the feedback

(01:17:14):
because I feel energy prolifically, even beyond what my son
ever saw. I could never see what he saw the frequencies,
but I could feel beyond the scope with sensitivity. There's
somebody from the Golden Dawn that came up. I remember
a long time ago. He says, well, this friend of
mine said, he's like way high up in the golden dawn,

(01:17:34):
and I was showing him stuff I could do and
my sense of energy and everything. He said, You're the
most sensitive person I've ever encountered. But I could literally
feel my wife like everything. It was this phenomenal communication,
like if she was in danger, I'd know it instantly.
That's the way I think we communicated before all this

(01:17:56):
science were using. Now that like my friend that saw
me I'm four hundred and eighty miles away and texted
me that she saw me. I thought, if that since
and that ability could be refined. We communicate back and forth,
just like these aliens are supposed to do, you know,
just mine to mine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's how it was done. If
what we depend so much on technology today, and technology
is great, you know it is, it's amazing. But somewhere,
and I'm going to say probably around years zero, like

(01:18:40):
the last of the new dynasties you know, passed since
probably before Cleopatra in the Greeks, right, Okay, so somewhere
in there five hundred BC to now, we started to

(01:19:01):
lose consciousness and once are the use of it. And
once things started to go industrial, where you know, we
invented the printing press and things started to take off,
and then we had the Industrial Revolution, and when all

(01:19:22):
of those things started to happen, societies and cultures around
the world were being pulled away from the self. There
was a less and less need for it because society

(01:19:42):
was getting in the way and technology was getting in
the way. And that's my take. But I think that
back then consciousness was fully understood by the engines. They
totally got it, you know, and they they developed it,
and they used it and they utilized it. But for
us today, technology and life and everything else has just

(01:20:04):
gotten in the way and we stopped exercising that part
of our brain and that part of ourself. That's that's
my take. And I think I think that we're starting
to understand more about it and getting back into it,
you know, with research like yourself and and that others
are putting into this, that we're starting to understand more

(01:20:25):
and more and more about consciousness and what it is
and where it exists, and how it finds us and
and how it connects the universe together. And think that's
my take. That's my take. I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Well, there's another aspect of this. I was attuned to
master level reiki like in the nineties, and that opened
up a whole new arena as well. Have you ever
heard of reiki?

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
I've had it done. I've had it done. Look, you
have your opinions, I have my. He's the one thing
that I came away from that going ah, okay, all right,
but I know that Hey, hey, it works for people,
and what works for you works for you. So yeah,

(01:21:13):
I do everything once I check it out, No, I do.
I do so so that way, when we're talking about it,
like right now, that I'm not just spewing bullshit about
something that I haven't experienced. That's not cool. I try
to tap into everything and experience everything. When I bring

(01:21:37):
up d MT, well, hey man, you know there's only
one way to talk about that or anything else. I've
had a regression therapy done. I'm going to spend a
week at the Monroe Institute in a couple of months.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I have an open
I do well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
I was amazed because when people were being attuned up above,
we were down in the basement at that time and
I could feel like just this wave of energy go
across me. Write and sync was what they were doing upstairs,
and I thought, there's something to this. They call that
the violet flame. A lot of people in the form.

(01:22:23):
Most people will see the color violet at some point,
which I think is pretty interesting. But my wife, my
late wife, she taught me how to read stones, where
you could literally get information from stones, which was a
Native American connection. She believed she was a shaman in
a past life and had that abili. She was amazing
with that kind of stuff. But she taught me you

(01:22:44):
don't need the symbols. But that's another thing that I
learned from reiki, was that symbols are the language of
quantum state. And she with just a thought, even in
mid conversation. If I mentioned that I had a problem
with some and she wanted to zap me as I
called it, I said, you're zapping me, and she just

(01:23:06):
gives me a smile and say, no, I'm not doing anything.
But I always knew she was. She could just do it.
It's like a projection of love. So then when I
started working on people, instead of using the symbols with reiki,
I just channeled unconditional love straight from the divine, just
imagining it as a column of light going through the
crown shockrum through my hands. I have to remove myself

(01:23:27):
where I kind of observe what's going on there, but
it heals my body as well, because I'm a channel
for that. So she showed me that I didn't need
the reiki symbols at all. And I think pure love,
the love of the divine, is the absolute full spectrum
of healing, and that's really what this form.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, you know, I maybe, uh, the reiki healer was
a master, the one that I was dealing with, and
you know, a pretty big reputation, and I only mess
around with the best, right And so I I don't

(01:24:08):
know why I didn't have the experience. But at the
same time, I have many friends, not one. I have
many friends that can absolutely read your mind. I'm telling you,
I'm telling you read your mind. Like look dead pan

(01:24:30):
at you and go you're thinking about grilled ham and
cheese sandwiches. You know, you know not not not okay,
your uncle starts with a bee now, none of that crap. No, no, no,
I'm talking about read your mind. I had Dollia Burgoyne

(01:24:51):
on the show last week. She is so gifted it
is beyond just description which she can do with and yeah,
she's oh man, man, I'm telling I was. I was
standing next to her on stage for a couple of

(01:25:12):
days watching this go on. She's she's incredible. So there
is uh a muscle. I'm saying the word muscle. There
is a muscle inside of this all with us, mental
or physical whatever that that we all have. You just

(01:25:33):
got to go to the gym and work out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Uh huh, you know, And I didn't know it. With
my friend, I said, let's think of a number between
one and one hundred. Link our minds together and see
how many we can get correct in a row. From
one to one hundred. She got eighteen of them in
a row correct. I got thirteen. But then something more

(01:25:56):
magical happened. It's like our minds opened up to such
an extent they were one, and I could look in,
I could see anything. It freaked her out. She shut
that thing down and would never do it again. There
was a time where I was a camera operator at
the TV station in those days. I don't know what flipped.

(01:26:17):
I was doing an essential oil and I don't know
if of the sandalwood or cedar? Would I think it
was sandalwood. I put on my third eye just to see,
you know, area, and I looked at this gal. I
could tell her about her dad and his flights and
his airplanes, and I knew everything. It's like and there's
no question about it. It's not like you're guessing at all.

(01:26:40):
It's absolute assurance, as if you know, as if it's
you recalling your own memories. I thought, that is really bizarre.
I can't do that at will, though it was like spontaneous,
even though I was inviting it at that one point.
But that reminds me of another time. I found this
page of symbols of which I didn't know what they were,

(01:27:00):
and at the time my wife was next to me,
and I said, what if I trace these out. It's
called ray tracing. Trace these symbols out in front of
us and just see what the effects are. We could
use these as a tool. And I traced one out
and she goes, I'm just feeling cold, and it was
like all of her life force was being drained out

(01:27:21):
of her. I started to panic about it. I called
in the angel. I said, help me with this, because
I don't even know what the heck I did, and
never touch those symbols again. There was one time I asked,
because I wanted to be able to read minds and
do that kind of thing. I asked an angel. I said,
give me the ability to hear people's thoughts, because then

(01:27:43):
I could maybe help them more or whatever my wish
was granted. I'm laying in bed trying to go to sleep,
and as all I hear is people's thoughts everywhere around me,
it felt dirty. It felt like, oh my god, so mediocre.
It was like, I can't take this. It's like just
speaking of things that just eat up the energy in

(01:28:06):
my mind. It was torture for two days. Finally I
gave off. I said, I give in. I want you
to take this away and never ever give me this
back again unless I have absolute control over it. But
for now, just leave it. I don't want to ever
be able to do that again.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
What do your I just have to ask, what do
your neighbors think? They know what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
They don't probably have a clue. Although when you when
you're in the starship and you're radiating the pure star
of love, I do like to extend that out to
the whole earth and try to heal humanity. And yeah, people,
if people find that divine light within themselves, we are
the temple. That's why you've got to take care of

(01:28:54):
your body in every way that you can possibly do it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
When you fire that thing up, Scott, do you ever
have any action in the sky.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Not that I've noticed, but there were helicopters flying around
here for a.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Lot of it was yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure,
I'm sure the men in black are observing, but I
have well, no, I've seen ships appear outside.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Have not. Well, yeah, my friend took a video once.
Now it was kind of fun. It wasn't a big deal,
but I had shown her that, Yeah, we've got little
the lights that would parallel each other and fly around.
But that's just kind of normal, you know. I used
to go to a UFO group and we would watch
them and well, maybe five or six of us had

(01:29:40):
these high powered lasers. If you saw something unusual, you
pointed out and the whole group could see it. I
brought binoculars once and saw this real nice, brightly evenly
lit disc and things like that. UFO wise had a
lot of friends that I've seen really unusual stuff. One
time I woke up in bed. Oh goodness, this gave

(01:30:02):
me the protective element that I bring to this day
to everybody that's in this form. I woke up in
the grades were around that bed. I could not move.
I was absolutely paralyzed, and all the grays are looking
at me. This is one of three visions, waking visions
that I've had, and the only thing I felt like,
I just want to get up and kill all of you.
I hate you. It was like, I'm not like that.

(01:30:24):
It's like where does all this negative energy goes? And
the more they held me down, the more intense it was.
So I thought, I can't put up with this kind
of thing anymore. Whitley Strieber's book Communion says, in their world,
your thoughts are real. So I thought, all right, I'm
gonna build an arsenal in qualm state, and I'm just

(01:30:47):
going to keep feeding that with energy. And I've done
that to this day. So I thought, if you released
all that in a peico second into their environment, I
could do anything with them. I want won't be the victim.
It's going to be them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Yeah, that's interesting. That's that's so hold on. Let's stay
right there. So if jumping into uh that your device
is bringing positive energy, can you use it to get
rid of negative energy?

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
It seems to just displace it automatically. It's like like
I was referring to before, It's like the negative stuff
just dissolves into the beauty of of love. It's like
God is the emotion of love. That's my conclusion at
this point. I'm just thinking about that today, that negative
stuff cannot exist in that light. It just it just doesn't.

(01:31:49):
It doesn't even occur to you at any point at all.
It's like it doesn't even exist.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
So so how so it dissipates?

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
I mean, yeah, it's like it just My theory is
that all of our emotions, like let's say you were
cheated on, for example, You've got this emotional hell that
you're being drug through, and uh, how does that come about?
I thought, now I've got it. I believe it's aggregated
your consciousness aggregates it from the quantum field, and you're

(01:32:21):
actually creating that in this form. It releases back into
the quantum state and dissolves back from where it came
from before you crystallized it into reality. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
So when people reach out to you, are they doing
it to I mean, what what are the Is it
for physical ailments or physical situations? Is it emotional trauma?
Is it to activate it? What? What are their reasons

(01:32:57):
for contacting you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
A lot of people want to feel that energy rush, right, Yeah,
spenc for the spin all free actions of healing and
to be able to circumvent the trauma. I had a
friend who was in the plant medicine and she said
that like an ayahuasca experience is equal to like ten
years of therapy. I'm going to interject here and say
that there is the potential that one session and this

(01:33:21):
thing could be equal to that, whereby instead of facing
it from a logical perspective, it's going to be emotional,
an emotional release that's just automatic and you don't have
to go through the hell of puking and all those
things that people go through with the plant medicines. I've
done three. I did iboga, which is considered to be

(01:33:44):
one of the most psychedelic on the planet, from a
tree bart from the Bewitty tribe. I had visions that
that was my vision of Egypt. I got to fly
above it and I saw the Pyramids and the nile
right there, and the absolute gorgeous oasis, as pristine as
you could possibly imagine. And I saw a dragonfly. Asked

(01:34:07):
what my connection to nature was? And this huge dragonfly
I could see in these scintillating eyes looking at me,
and it went right through my head into the third eye,
lodged in my brain. With the wings back, It's like
we exchanged information energetically, and it flew back out, looked
at me, and flew away. But that was like an
electron microscope view, just gorgeous, gorgeous image. But ever since then,

(01:34:32):
these dragonflies, I mean I can touch them and they
get on me and they fly, I mean hundreds of them.
Sometimes it's like they know that I'm connected to them.
It's it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Yeah, insects, you know, I've connected with trip on this
trip on. I haven't told anybody about this. I live
in the desert, Okay, and so I have lizards all
over the place. I mean they're all over the place
everywhere out here, but I have and especially on the

(01:35:08):
south side of my house over there that that that's
like lizard city over there, just sleeve a lot, you know,
they're just doing there. They're they're you know, doing the thing.
I enjoy them a lot anyway. But out in front
of my garage, like two weeks ago, I went out

(01:35:32):
and was doing something. I opened up the garage door
and I see something on my driveway and I looked
down and it was a little baby lizard. Let me
change cameras. A little baby lizard, probably that big a
round about that baby right, but his tail was missing.
He looked like a starfish. That's what he looked like,

(01:35:55):
like you know, you know what I mean with his
feet and his head and the tail, they were all
the same size. He didn't have a long tail. He
had a little stub like he got bit off, and
you can see the healing on the thing. Anyway, So
I looked down at he didn't run away, and so
we just stared at each other and I said, right on,

(01:36:16):
little man, you know, and he just you know. And
then like the next day I went outside and he
came running out of the grass onto my drivewood, right
up in front of me, looking at me like, what's up,
little man? What's up? Little man? And so over the
last couple of I've seen this guy every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Just running out and his tail's getting a little longer, right,
and now I got to watch walking in the grass.
I don't want to step on him, right, It's like
I'm like self conscious about that. He's a little tiny guy.
But suddenly I don't want him to go away. I've
like bonded with this guy. So back to this weird

(01:37:03):
situation with the insects. I went out about the same time,
so like two weeks ago, and I'm going out to
get in my jeep in the garage and I rounded
the corner and I see down next to my jeep,
in between one of my toolboxes and my jeep, I
have a tall toolbox with drawers right big, you know

(01:37:26):
what I mean big? And there are two black widows,
big ones, big ones on the spiderwebs coming off of
the toolbox, between the toolbox and my jeep, two of them.
Now what do you do? Okay? Now, most people would

(01:37:48):
freak right, go get bug spray fly swatter right and
kill them, right, No no, no, no no no. So
I go and I said, I'm going to be right back.
You guys. We can't share this space. That's what I said.
I'm talking to these freaking black widows. I go around,

(01:38:08):
I get my broom, I open up the garage door.
I go back and I picked them up, and I
went out into the yard and you know, release them
and got them out of my garage. But that's what
you did. I I just don't there isn't a need

(01:38:29):
to kill and I don't know, you know, insects. I
don't know why. Well, I don't want ants in my house. Okay,
that's you know, or things like that. That's not what
I'm suggesting at all. But for some reason, humans like
dragonflies and things that we have had. We have this
fear of them, and we don't want insects around us.

(01:38:51):
It's really weird. And when we're dead and gone, us humans,
it's insects, man, that are going to be running this planet. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Yeah, we've been trying.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
We've been trying to exterminate insects forever, and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
There's you know what I mean, Uh, that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
No, No, I love that. I love that that dragonfly story. Yeah, yeah,
but there's no ants in my house though.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Yeah. Well, not to switch topic, but I just thought
of something I should mention about symbolic manifestation from quantum state.
These incidences like this are what have trained me over time.
It takes forever, but they started to add up. There's
this one girl I was enamored with after my life

(01:39:38):
wife passed away, and she had a problem with her
hip or something. I said, I'll fix it. So I
kind of went the reiki route and just zapp some
energy and she recovered from whatever it was. And then
there was a second sum I don't remember, but the
third one, I thought, do I even attempt this? She says,
I got to go to the dentist tomorrow. I thought, huh,

(01:40:01):
I said, can you wait just one day? Give me
one day, let me see what I could do.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Well. What was the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
She had a toothache of some sort a tooth infection,
gum infection or something. So I take this into dream state,
and this is where you can cross the threshold into
the quantum realm, the symbolic realm. So in my dream vision,
whatever you want to call it, I've got this needle

(01:40:29):
between two of my teeth up here. I go, wow,
that's really sharp pain. There took some needle nosed pliers,
went in there, grabbed that needle and just slowly pulled out,
dropped it on a table, goes tink, tink tink. I
felt it with my tongue. I thought, we got that,
We got that. I felt a little bit of sensitivity,
but not bad. Called her up the next day. I said,

(01:40:51):
how's that too? She says, Wow, it's way better. Just
got this little sensitivity, as in, just second, I get
this little download. Three days, I said, three days it'll
be cured. Three days it was gone. And oh my god.
People can get dependent if you do something like that
too much, where it's like every little thing, can you

(01:41:13):
protect me? Can you help me? It's so endearing though.
I just love it. I love helping people, and I
really like to really illustrate to people the potential within
themselves because it's kind of like, instead of giving people fish,
teach them to fish themselves. Then they can help other

(01:41:34):
people along the way, you know. So that's what my
initiative is with the Starship. It's to show people the
divinity within themselves. We are the temple of the divine
if you look at it from Christ's viewpoint, and that
christ consciousness is prolific. I mean that's my definition of Oh,
it's the divine light.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Yeah, I try to avoid doctor. There's a reason to
go to a dot. You break your leg, you go
to the doctor. I'm not going to Scott Gorilla. If
I've got a broken leg, We're not fixing that remotely, Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Okay, got that right, Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
But about a year ago, and I love my dentist.
I have beautiful choppers. But about a year ago, this
is what happened. I wrapped the show and it was nothing.
It was crazy. So I had a slice of pizza

(01:42:37):
that I had heated up in my oven, a freaking
slice of pizza. I'm sitting in my family room. I
turn on the TV. I sit down. Everything's fine. I
bite into the slice of pizza and electricity shot through
my head and it was this bottom eye tooth right here,

(01:43:00):
and oh my god. That was the worst night of
my life. I couldn't go. It was too late, you know,
it's ten thirty at night. I took medication that I
had here in the house that barely knocked it out.

(01:43:21):
It didn't really, but I was awake all night long.
I at eight nine o'clock in the morning, I called
my dentist and I was and I drove straight there.
I'm not sure if I would have called you in

(01:43:41):
that kind of situation, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
And I avoid that stuff. I love my dentist though,
you know what that I loved going just to hang
out with them. They're such a quick dadist office. But
I just avoid doctors. It's really weird how I've got

(01:44:05):
great insurance, right, I can every time i feel something weird,
I've got of you know, I could go. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
I don't, but they got the place, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
I just think it's mind over matter in a lot
of cases.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
I think so too. There is so much you can do.
I've got a curved spine and a little degenerated disc,
and literally I've been able to work with that by
imagining that energy as a point of light at the
base of my spine, running it up and down. If
I can tactically feel what I'm doing through my visualization
so that I can feel it go between each individual vertebrae,

(01:44:46):
then I know I've got it, and just keep running
it up and down, putting that light through there. It's like, man,
I'll tell you what after a while. If you sit
there and do that for half an hour, it can
really really produce a a very strong beneficial effect.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
You said something earlier. I'm going to go back and visit.
You said you sleep half of the night in the
mocking nod behind you, right, yeah, in the starship. That's
a good it is indeed a starship. But you said
the the other half of the night is in under
a pyramid? Is the pyramid above your bed? In your bedroom, I.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Put an air mattress on the floor, and then my
pyramid sits you know, on the floor as well. Minor unique.
I use a quartz crystal at the apex, so the
virtual projection of the points is actually internal to the crystal.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Wait, don't miss it. You're missing the question. Do you
have a pyramid in your bedroom?

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Yes, I have no regular bed. I sleep in these forms.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Okay, okay, So it's an air mattress in your bedroom,
you have an air mattress with the pyramid above it. Yes, there,
I'm thinking about doing this myself.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Okay, okay, six and a half feet that's my baseline.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
I have a I have a king sized bed, but
I have the bed. It's a king size bed, but
I have it on a on a low metal platform.
It's probably four feet or four inches, so the bed
is low to the ground so I could build Oh man,
my freaking headboard is mounted to the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I got to think about this. I've been, I've been. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Get away my bed in lieu of this because you've
got perfect square you know, base, but anywhere inside there,
I I know, like the King's chamber is about one
third up, but you don't really have to be up
that high. But I'll tell you what, that systemic energy
increase is very significant and noticeable. You're gonna notice your

(01:47:01):
libido goes off the scales. And that was a big
deal back.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Well, that was the whole reason for the for doing
that in the seventies. But I I have a full
grounding setup. Okay, okay, So I've got a grounded mattress,
I have grounded pillowcases. I put on the whatever those
are called, the EEG stickies, right, they go on those

(01:47:28):
plug in Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I look like I look
like a medical experiment when I go to bed. But
so I'm into this, and one of the one of
the things I want to ask you about dreaming like that,
because when you ground properly like I do, the dream
state is insane. I look forward to going to bed.

(01:47:51):
I don't fight it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Yeah, I feel like I'm talking to myself because you're
just like me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
So what's the dream state like? Well one in the
Starship of two under the Pyramid.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Well, in the initial Pyramid days. I got to tell you,
this is really strange. I went into the same dream
sequence interdispersed with other dreams. But this one was had
continuity where I was literally going to a college in
a classroom with field studies all about energy, and I

(01:48:26):
got into like matches, like mental stuff, like mental like
judo and kind of like in the matrix, you know.
I remember one time I had these military people and
they were watching me, and there was this big warehouse
and I had to fly up to the one corner
of the ceiling, fly to the other corner, and then
go around the square of the ceiling as fast as
I could do it. I had other times where I'd

(01:48:49):
be playing horizontal in free space and rotate my body
at ninety degrees at will, just exercising my ability to
levitate and do that kind of thing. It was one
time before the X file and I was going through
this facility and it was all I could see were
like the grid system that this building was made of,

(01:49:11):
and it was like the Matrix like this blue scintillating light.
I'm sure a lot of what the Matrix came up
with was from things like this, but I could explore
that facility, and I actually watched him operating on a
human hybrid kind of situation. Saw the the pods where
they were incubating these hybrids, and I walked around there,

(01:49:33):
walked right in front of this guy with a machine gun.
I mean literally like a foot in front of his face,
and I thought, that guy can't see me at all.
But I got in with this battle with this one
guy and he blasted me right through this wall, and
all of a sudden, I'm in a whole new universe
or dream or whatever. I thought that guy just killed me.

(01:49:53):
I was about that easy to transition. I thought, well,
I hope it's that easy in this life. And my
son we went through graveyards and he could see entities
and I asked one of them once, I said will
you talk to me? And my son looks at me
and says yeah. He says briefly, he's like real abrupt,
literally him and anybody else in the graveyard that we

(01:50:16):
saw were contemplating their lives. One of the things I
got interested in was this ghost box designed by Steve
hoff Off.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
I've had Steve on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
He's great, Oh really that's cool. Yeah, yeah, Well I
go to Cahtern for an antenna, built one of those things.
Oh my god. I'll tell you what I've talked to.
I've had hundreds of hours talking to people. I even
had the Galactic Federation came through and identified themselves past presidents.
Depends where I was at at the time. Got a

(01:50:51):
friend on in Florida. We get a thing tank going
and still sometimes put other people in a conference call.
I haven't done it hardly all this year because my
my hablet it wouldn't fire up anymore. But I was
doing this for quite a while. I learned a lot
of stuff. Today Prince died. I interviewed him this thing
on YouTube. I put it on there. It's got like
twenty some thousand views on it. But I asked him,

(01:51:14):
I said, what killed you? This gets really weird. Somebody
comes on they say it was actions of the stove pipe.
I thought, what is the stove pipe? I looked it up.
That's unsanctioned information flow through government, and they implicated the
Bush Cheney administration all this other stuff I don't know.
At the end of this guy goes he died a
wealthy man, but I get sound effects through my quantum radio.

(01:51:40):
And I asked, Prince, can you sing something for me?
And he's saying own the stars. So I just created
a song with AI today, inspired by Prince, and that's
become the tagline for my business with Time. I just
put this together last October. So this is all new
inspired by Prince the day that he died.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Fascinating, fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I think he helped me with the song. It's beautiful people.
Where can I get this song? I said, I don't
know what to tell you. It's not published.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
One quick question, this is the uh, the masculine side
of my brain asking this. Do you use fifty two
degrees or specifically, what is it fifty one point four
degrees when you construct a pyramid?

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Oh, the angle is based on the pie Ra show. Yeah,
the three point that was indicated by doctor Flanagan in
Pyramid Power. So yeah, it's like a yeah, that's slant
ratio of about fifty two degrees. Yeah, that's that's the
only one. I've never done the Nubian design before.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
So if somebody do you sell kits.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
I sell the pyramids and they have no connectors. They
just open right up in seconds and fall away. That way,
I can flip them over my shoulder, take them to
a beach. I've had them in hotels, of had them
in forests. I've had them everywhere. It's amazing. Some people
think the proximity of where you're at would influence the energy,
but I got to say, even with the dodecahedron up

(01:53:21):
like on ten floor is in a hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
How big is it? How big is the dough dough decahedron.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
The DO decahedron I designed at six and a half
feet in diameter.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
And fold it unfolds.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Well, the DO decahedron does not. That's all connector based.
But the pyramid unfolds. Yeah, the pyramid does.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
And is the pyramid available in different sizes?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
No, I just do the one size for meditation.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
What size is that?

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Well, it do a base length of six and a
half feet, which works well. I didn't want to make
it too Yeah, that way your whole body can fit
in there nicely. So it's kind of the size of
a twin mattress. You know, that's what I got in there,
and that's where I sleep every night once I found
out used to be just transient after work to regenerate
for years, And of course my wife probably wouldn't have

(01:54:15):
wanted to have to sleep in there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Like do you have to orient it to true north?

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Yeah? I do. I use a compass and put it
right on. Well, you gotta go like two degrees off
true north, but straight out works fine if you look
at the cellular integrity of our body and out in nature,
nature with sacred geometrical proportions. Some of them are a
little bit of approximate. It's like everybody isn't the same
height and ratio to their body, but you always have

(01:54:45):
the general proximity of the limbs and everything relative to
each other. So I think if you're off just a
little bit, you're still gonna get a good amount of
energy from it. But I like to have it optimized,
so I make sure it's as true north as I
can position. In fact, my house when they put this in,
that was the number one criteria. I want this thing

(01:55:06):
a line north and south perfectly, so that all my
forms that I put in here will fit nicely for
conservation of space.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Do you have pyramid parties?

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
No? You know what. I've never exposed this to the
public at all in general, and I talked to groups periodically,
had a few friends over. But I got divine guidance.
I use a radio as a divination tool. I ask
a question, I pushed that button, and the lyrics of
that song give me the answer. I'd say, thirty forty
percent of the time it doesn't work, but when it does,

(01:55:42):
here's what happened. I had to make a decision. Was
I going to retire from my publishing job to do
this full time or not? So I asked God, I said,
what do I do? I pushed that button. I swear
I'm sitting here. That song said, I've worked through the
metaverse for two years, describe intricately all the connections that

(01:56:02):
were made. So now it's you. It's your part. You
got to do your your turn to make this happen.
And I knew instantly what I had to do, and
I resigned the next day.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Yeah, right out right out. What about playing guitar in there?

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Well, have you done it? I don't play guitar. I
used to play piano and keyboard.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
You can't bring that in there. Do you have friends?
I'm just messing with you, Scott, but I'm serious. Well, hey,
if you had have you had a player come over
with an acoustic guitar and play at four thirty two
hurts and just get those frequencies ringing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
No, but I've played a lot of music at four
thirty two and a lot of Solfeggio's.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you heard of the tron?

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Okay, take out your pen. You have a pen right there, right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Oh, I gotta go get one, Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Integratron so I'll remember it. You won't. And the Integratron
was built by a guy named I only have a
little bit of time left, but you've got to go
check this out. Was built by a guy named George
van Tassel in Landers, California, not that far from my house,
and he lived at a place called Giant Rock that

(01:57:21):
he owned. It's the biggest freestanding boulder rock in the world,
and it happens to be pink granite, and it's ten
stories tall. It's ginormou. It's the craziest thing you've ever seen.
But that was also the first UFO siding ever, and
this is in the late forties, and so anyway, long

(01:57:45):
story short, George van Tassel took some rides on some
flying saucers that landed out there and landers very famous.
You've heard of contact in the desert, Well, contact in
the desert started was started by George Fantassel, and so
he had those UFO conferences out there in the desert

(01:58:05):
for about thirty years, all the way to the nineteen seventies,
twenty years. Anyway, he says that Et gave him the
building plans for the integratron and that it was an
anti aging age reversal device and it could only be

(01:58:31):
built from wood with no metal. And it's a lot.
It's huge, it's still there. It's great. It's a white dome.
It's ginormous, and the top part rotates and it sits
on the on its base. It looks like an observatory.

(01:58:52):
It's big too. It's not. This is not you know,
some little ten x ten thing. This is a ginormous,
beautiful piece of work. And so the top rotates. But
here's the trippy thing. It's all done with sacred geometry.
You have to see it. It's beautiful, but acoustically, because

(01:59:16):
it's all wood on the inside, it's got perfection with audio.
So bands have gone in there and recorded albums right
right right. They do a lot of sound healing, sound
bowls and other stuff. It's a beautiful resort. But it's

(01:59:40):
very similar in its intentions as your work. It's very similar.
So you need to check out the Integratron. And if
you ever get a chance, ever get an opportunity and
you come out to California, to Los Angeles, go visit
the Integratron and go see Giant Rock. It's such a
big part of our community and what we do here

(02:00:04):
with healing and acoustics and anti aging and these kinds
of things. But yeah, this the plans for it came
from ET to George Van Tassel. Yeah, it's an incredible building. Yeah,
let me see. We're already off the network. It just
hang on for a second. Let me pull this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Up in tag.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Tr Okay, there it is right there. Boom okay, yes.

Speaker 5 (02:00:40):
Uh done, yes, okay, boom okay.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Now check this out. I'm gonna show to you right
now this is the Integratron. You gotta love technology, man,
Technology is absolutely incredible that we can just do this
in real time. But this is the Integratron. I've done
many shows on it over the years. But there it is.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
Oh wow, cat, it looks like the top of a silo,
doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Uh, you know, like an observatory, but now built without metal,
no nails, no screws, and you can see how the
top rotates. You see that, you see the mechanism. Yeah,
absolutely incredible. And that's that sits out in Landers, California.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Huh have any studies or observation has been made?

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
This is a famous You need to go and and
and check it out. It's a fun you can Wikipedia this.
There's so much written on this over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
just go and do uh do the rabbit hole on this.
The integratron is incredible. It's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
Thanks for the tip on that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Absolutely absolutely, thank you so much. Where can everybody reach
out to you?

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
Well, you mean like my phone number?

Speaker 1 (02:02:08):
No, I'm not going to give your phone number out
in the air. What are you crazy? We've got we've
got Divine Geometric Geometrical Universe dot com. We've got that
website up. Is that the easiest place to reach out to.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
You that is. That's kind of the universal NeXT's point.
But they can look me up by name on Facebook
or Divine Geometrical Universe on Facebook or Divine Geometrical Universe testimonials,
and then on TikTok it's my name was six zero
one after it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
Okay, cool, fantastic man, What a great conversation tonight. Man.
I really enjoyed it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
I did it as well. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
You're the best. Thank you, Scott. Have a great night
and be safe out there and happy sleeping.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Thanks Jimmy, I'll talk to you too.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Great show. Thank you so much, Scott Gerrillia, what a
great conversation tonight. Pyramid research and everything else that we covered.
We've got his website up. It is in the description
below over on our website, throughout social media, and so
there you go. And you know what I'm about to say.

(02:03:16):
It is my Friday. Okay, it's your Thursday. Everybody, have
a great, safe, fun and amazing weekend. I'll see you
right back here on Monday. But until then, all I've
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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