FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Ryan Bledsoe

Tonight, Ryan Bledsoe joins us for a full night of the Bledsoe Family... UFOs, ET, spirituality... and the future of planet Earth!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would
vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside.
This work this Day to Black. It's your host, Jimmy
Church on the Game Changer Radio Network. All right, good evening,

(01:10):
Fade to Black. How you doing today is Wednesday, September tenth,
two thy twenty five. I'm your host, Jimmy Church. You
know what I'm going to say next? Let's do this Mayana?
All right? This week on Fade to Black short week
Monday night, we had Captain Leo Walton with us talking
about ancient pyramid energy, a fantastic conversation. Last night Colton

(01:33):
Scribner was here PhD craving the creepy and tonight it's
Ryan Blood. So first time I'm Fade to Black, by
the way, and it's going to be an open conversation.
Ryan is great, he's a dear friend and I am
really looking forward to this. We've been putting this show
together for I don't know how many years. Yeah, really,

(01:58):
I'm excited. So tonight I and Bledsoe is here. Tomorrow night,
no show. I am out of town. I have. I'll
just tell you I've got five shows to shoot over
the next few days throughout the weekend. But I'll be
back on Monday for a fresh week of Fade to Black.

(02:18):
But I've got a head out of town and get
some more Beyond Belief done. All right, So no show
tomorrow night, kids, All right, now, I do have I
can't believe we're in September. My birthday is next month,
which indicates a few things. One Halloween than Christmas, and
it's the end of the year. And then we roll

(02:39):
into twenty twenty six. I do have six major events
coming up in addition to everything else that I do
around here. First up is the Conscious Life Texpo, and
that is February twenty through the twenty third, twenty twenty
six at the Lax Hilton. I have hosted this event,
the biggest event in the world. I'll we get between

(03:00):
twenty and twenty five thousand people attending this conference, and
I've been hosting it now for twelve years. Okay, thirteen years,
maybe fourteen something like that. But that's coming up February
twenty through the twenty third. After that, it's the Contact
Modalities Expo May first through the third, twenty twenty six
in Delavan, Wisconsin at Delavan Lake. After that, Contact in

(03:21):
the Desert May twenty eight through June first, twenty twenty six.
Tickets on sale this Thanksgiving Day. After that, I head
south to Peru for the Inca Celebration of the Sun
with Brian Forrester. That is June twenty third through July one,
twenty twenty six. I come back from that and turn
straight around and head to Scotland for the Monty Python

(03:44):
Tour of Scotland and that is August first through the ninth,
twenty twenty six. I come back from that, head back
south to Peru and Eastern Island also with Brian Forrester,
and that is November of twenty twenty six. And between
all of that, I've got other stuff and as it
comes up, I will keep everybody posted on that. All right,

(04:06):
strange day today, Yes, we have Ryan Bloodsoe on the show,
very excited about this. I'll bring Ryan in. Uh, just
a second, but I have to mention that, uh, this
country right now, this country right now, it needs to
it needs to it needs to bring back the temperature

(04:26):
of things. Earlier today, Charlie Kirk was shot and killed
in Utah, and uh, the the situation, I mean, it's
it's just sad. It's it's not cool, and it's not
what this country is about. And that is it? All right?

(04:47):
That that's that's it's just you know, and we all
are facing we can feel that there is so much
weirdness right now globally, and and it's just flaming out
on so many fronts. And it's just we have so
many things that are on our mind and concerning us,

(05:10):
and and you know, of course we have the media
that wants to ratchet things up and make everything so
fear based. And so the world is dealing with all
of this, including you, including myself, right and we look
at this and we are constantly looking for little bright

(05:31):
rays of sunshine, you know, just something to take to
just bring some some light back into our lives. And
we're looking for that, and we're constantly battling this. It's
just negative, negative, craziness and the pressure. So all I
can say is to everybody listening to me right now,

(05:56):
we just need to just bring it down. We just
need to bring it down, all right. I have said
on this show many times, and I've had this conversation
with Ryan before, that is having somebody in your life,
somebody that you know, somebody that you see, somebody that

(06:16):
lives across the street, somebody that's on TV that has
an alternative view to yours or who is different than you,
is what makes this country great. That's it. Being different,
having the freedom of being different, to listen to alternative views.

(06:36):
That's how we learn, and that's how we move forward.
If everything around you is the same, how do you learn?
How do you explore something new? How do you change
your mind? How do you reinforce what you believe? All
of that comes from being around people that are different. Man.
That's it. That's it. That's what makes this country great.

(07:01):
It's sad day today, sad day. All right, I've spoken
my piece. We need to tone it down. Tonight. Ryan
Bledsoe is here. We're going to talk about the Bloodsoe
family and the unexplained phenomena that they have been experiencing.
We're going to talk about his personal experiences. I want

(07:24):
to know what makes him tick. And also, there is
something about Ryan that most people don't necessarily know. I'm
going to say it now because I'm going to bring
it up. Ryan loves history. He loves ancient history. He
loves asking questions about this. I see him going up

(07:44):
to different researchers and people from different backgrounds and will
turn the conversation into him exploring and trying to figure
stuff out and trying to increase his knowledge base. It's
absolutely fascinating to hang out with Ryan, and we're going
to be doing all of that tonight. I would like
to Oh, also, the host Bledsoe's head so and he's

(08:08):
right there, Ryan, what's going on? My brother?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Jimmy?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'm doing okay? And actually I think this is my
second time on Feet of Black?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Is it your second time? I thought it was Wait wait, oh,
we did something years ago. You were a kid. I'm
still kidding you were a kid. That's right, No, you're
you're right about that. Okay, well this is about six
years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I was gonna say, so this show is still years
in the making, but welcome back. You're right about that, though, Yeah,
we did something quite a while. Yeah six years ago. Wow, yeah, yeah, okay,
not my bad. And you'll experience what I'm going through
right now as you bring that up. As you get older,

(09:02):
your your mind starts to go. You're gonna experience it, man,
You're gonna experience it. And with things like Bloodsoe said, so,
how many episodes are you up to now?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think we're writing at about two hundred fifteen or
two hundred twenty on that on the main show, plus
like one hundred and thirty Patreon shows or something.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Like that, right right, right now, wrap your head around this.
How long did it take you to get to two
hundred shows? Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Four years?

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah? Four years? Okay, you ready, I've got three thousand
shows in the can, three thousand. Right. So when you
get to the point of where Bloodsoe said, So's had
three thousand, you will forget a friend of yours that
you did a show with six years before. It's gonna happen. Man,

(09:52):
you're gonna come up to me. We're gonna be eating
onionentering somewhere, you know, doing our thing, and you're gonna
go church. You were right, man, I blew it last week. Man,
My best friend came up to me and said, what
a great show we did, and I was like, what show.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I'm kind of getting there already with some of
the shows. I can see that happening.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, congratulations on your success and everything else.
And we've known each other for a long time. This
is what I'm Okay, I thought about this. I'm going
to ask you a trick question that I think you
know the answer to. All right, but I'm doing this
for the audience. I want them to appreciate this. This

(10:33):
is how we're going to start this out. You know,
I'm friends with the family, and but I've got a
favorite family member. Who is it?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I would say, my mom, are you yep?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yep? And I knew that you would get that right,
But I did that for the audience so they can
understand and appreciate the close knit family that you guys
have and and what you guys uh do together as

(11:10):
a family, and uh looking at that is there is it?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Is it the DNA? Because is there something fundamentally correct
about your DNA that not only the paranormal and the supernatural,
which we'll get into, but it's the other things you
guys uh are are how do I say this? Are talented?

(11:40):
It's it's really weird, man. Is it the DNA? Was
everybody always liked that growing up, you know, just a
little bit special and a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I don't really know how to answer that, because whether
it's the DNA or not, I have no idea. It
has been suggested by some people in the intelligence communities
that individuals who have repeated experiences with inter dimensional phenomenon
experience mutations in the brain.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yes, continue, well, I mean, how okay, okay, but then
we have well, so okay, let's back this up a bit.
So what what take like? Let's use Emily as a
as an example. All right, we can put your dad aside,

(12:37):
your mama's side and junior side and stuff. But Emily
has a gift from God in her voice. And was
she always able to sing like that before the paranormal
bit or did she have a genetic mutation that happened
when she was young?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
No, she was all is able to sing and was
always very musically talented from a young age. She started
taking piano and voice lessons at like seven, and it's
just been a part of who she is her entire life.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Can you sing No, oh man, here's the thing with that,
and then we'll move on. When you know somebody can
sing like that, you know, it's a different level of singing.
You don't sing around those people, no matter how think,

(13:32):
you just don't do it. I would never I remember,
she goes, she goes, Jimmy, you got a pretty good voice.
You can sing, right, And I'm looking at him like, Nope,
don't even ask, it's not going to happen. All right,
let's jump into this one of the things that I
brought up many times over the years. I've done it
with you, but I want to start here tonight. For

(13:55):
those that may not know what I'm about to bring up,
most do. But my introduction to the Bloodsoe family was
a random thing that happened on the internet when I
saw the burning trees right in the back of the house,
and I watched those videos so many times trying to

(14:16):
understand and trying to comprehend what was going on, and
I ended up pursuing you guys and chasing you guys
down after that. You shot those videos, didn't you. I did,
and take us through that. And for those I'll let

(14:37):
you describe what was going on, But for the audience
that may not know. Bill Jessica John post the links
up to the Bloodsoe Burning Tree videos so everybody can
watch those later and they can understand what we're talking about.
But take us through that day and how it started.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, it was I believe it was twenty twelve, and
at the time I was only nineteen, and I was
like a sophomore in college or something like that. But
I'm pretty sure I was a sophomore in college. But
I lived in town during college because I went to
a small school in the same town, right, so I
was pretty much home all the time, and if not

(15:22):
during the week, every weekend, you know. So I was
there for like a Friday night. I think it was
my dad's birthday in October. It was a kind of
a not so kind of warm part of the year,
you know. I seem to remember we were all outside
of having a birthday party for my dad, and I
just know we were all bummed out because it had
been raining for like two days and the grass was

(15:44):
all saturated. And when that birthday party next door at
my grandmother's ended, we all went inside for the evening
and around nine o'clock, when it's fully dark. I mean,
I'm talking to this like pitch black dark outside, not
twilight or anything like that. Right. My mom just sees

(16:04):
like these sparks out the back door because we had
one of those glass panel doors that looks like windows,
you know what I'm talking about, like the back doors,
and you can totally see through it, right, So she
sees these sparks, so she's like, what is that? And
she opens the door and the tree is just like
completely in flames. I happened to be standing there next
to her, and at the time, I had just bought

(16:24):
an iPad, which is what I filmed it on, and
I was carrying it, you know, everywhere because I had
little games on it, and I took it to school
to take notes whatever. I sprinted out there barefoot, grass
soaked and everything, and just started filming it on my iPad.
It was like a compulsion. I don't usually do that.
And so when you hear the one talking in the video,

(16:45):
it's me at nineteen years old. Well now I'm thirty two,
and I'm very embarrassed of the way I spoke in
that video. But anyway, right, so what happened was it
caught on fire just out in the wear and it
was later verified to be a genuine spontaneous combustion from
MIT because Chase Klotsky, I'm sure you know her, or

(17:08):
aren't familiar with her, or have bumped into her at
some point, but she came out, she investigated it, she
took samples from the tree, she sent it off to MIT,
and they confirmed there were no genuine combustible materials that
should have ignited the tree anyway back to the night,
so it spontaneously combusts. My mom is freaking out, my
dad's freaking out. I'm sitting there filming it. I'm excited.

(17:30):
My mom grabs a hose from the house, runs it
all the way like one hundred yards out towards it,
starts spraying it down, puts it out.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
And it's burning from inside out. Yes, that's the crazy part.
It's not the outside of the tree burning in that
we're all familiar with. It is burning from the inside
of the tree out. It's internally on fire.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Mm hmm. That's right. And the fire was actually twisting
doing spirals, although that's probably sometimes common. If you replicated
that and had a big hollow piece of wood and
maybe put fire on the inside, I don't know, but
it was doing really weird patterns inside the tree. So
my mom hosed it down three times that night it
combusted and maybe it wasn't hosed down. I think she

(18:19):
hosed it twice, but it combusted a total of three
times and ended up. She gave up. She couldn't put
it out, and it burned all throughout the night until
about three am. She woke up and looked out back
and it finally wasn't burning anymore.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, and so there are two or three videos online
where you're walking back out. Now. The reason why I'm
bringing this up it's it. First off, it's fascinating, but
the second thing, it reignites, and there's another video it
started again. Right, the fire's out, it's done. Okay, nothing

(18:52):
to see here, let's move along. And then it reignites
and starts again and starts again. And this is, like
you said, it just for two days. It's more.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yea, the tree is wet, right, or she's posing it.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yes, it's it's it's absolutely insane. So now when we
part that date that's twenty twelve, where were you in
your mind in the world of the paranormal and the supernatural?
Were you looking at this as something strange or that

(19:27):
you know, where where was your head at.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, when this stuff all started, I was thirteen years old,
and if you think about a thirteen year old, they
already believe in the supernatural. They already believe everything that
the adults in their lives tell them. And if they're
you know, like if your father your mother was to
tell you something at thirteen, you'd believe it because you're
so young and you're so impressionable, and everything my dad

(19:53):
was telling me right from the start, I intrinsically believed
it without a doubt. And then it was within a
week or two after him initially telling me about this
stuff that I began to see with my own eyes.
So there's never been the opportunity in my life to
have doubt. It's been pretty much a part of my
DNA and you know, always being it's normal for me

(20:18):
to experience this kind of stuff and always has been.
So by the time I'm eighteen and the tree catches
on fire, well, if you'll remember, there was another significant
event in twenty twelve, just months prior, where my dad
came face to face with the lady. At this point
in time, our understanding of these experiences we were having

(20:40):
had shifted so much that this was just another supernatural event.
At that point, we had seen so many crazy things
that it was pretty normal.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And were you the reason why I'm asking where your
head is at? Because at some point one starts to
connect the dots, and when you start connecting the dots,
you may ask yourself, am I going crazy? Or is
this actually connected? Uh? Take me through that kind of

(21:14):
thought process, because it has to happen.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So I will say, when this all first happened, my
dad had four hours of missing time in reference to
his original encounter on the Capeir River in two thousand
and seven. So for about a year to a year
and a half, every time he tried to think about
that missing time, he would get really bad migraines. Sometimes

(21:39):
he would pass out, he would scream in his sleep,
he was having nightmares. He was desperately trying to recall
this memory, but he couldn't, and then eventually he was regressed,
and you know, there forward, he never had you know,
the missing memories ever again, it all came back to
him and the large majority of his encounter since then
have been lucid. While he's awake, right. So as a child,

(22:04):
I knew that it was biblical because my father in
the very beginning said it was angelic and that it
was supernatural, and that it was divined. But from thirteen
to about eighteen, in those first five years, there was
so much missing information on our side where we weren't
exactly you know. It was like he saw these beings

(22:27):
in two thousand and seven, they had all these messages.
It took them a year to get a lot of
those back through the progression, and then over the next
four years we were seeing thousands and thousands and thousands
of entities, but they weren't necessarily giving messages anymore past
that point, so a lot of it was just us experiencing,
making patterns in our mind of how they connect in
reference to what we're doing, what we're saying, what we're thinking.

(22:48):
That's why my dad knows better than literally anybody alive
today how to request these things to pear, and it
actually happened because he has tens of thousands of times
in his life where he has connected those patterns with
how they connect. But anyway, so for the first five years,
there was a lot of unknown, There was a lot
of gaining those data points, experiencing those patterns new and

(23:14):
not really understanding exactly what's happening, having ideas about what
they are, why they're coming, just based on the initial message.
All of that shifted by the time I was eighteen
years old when the Lady came, and that was so
shocking to me, as a fundamental Pentecostal Holiness Christian in
North Carolina who believed the Bible was literal, because you know,

(23:38):
my family told me it was. I believed that, you know,
you had to go to church, that you had to
do X, y Z, and that in this little text,
the Bible, that it contained all the secrets of the universe.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
But in the back of my mind, I was like,
but that's not There's something there that's not complete, experiencing
cognitive dissonance, flipping through the Bible, trying to find evidence
of the UFO. You know, Ezekiel's Will, Exodus, you know,
the story of Daniel, so many different stories where something

(24:13):
comes down from the sky, its shiny, it's metal, and
all that good stuff. By the time I was eighteen,
I was really kind of at that dissonance point where
I wasn't sure exactly how it fit but I knew
it had to be related. And then a shiny lady
comes down and basically says she's the divine feminine and
that she's, you know, the mother of all creation, and
that she's the secret missing part of the trinity, and
I'm just like, what is happening. It was a huge

(24:37):
existential shock. And when I learned to accept that moving forward,
it all fell into place. And now when I was thirteen,
it was like I had such limited knowledge and I
wanted to know so bad what it is. And now
at thirty two, I just implicitly understand that they can
do whatever they want, and all we do is just

(24:58):
you know, ask for them to show up, have a
humble heart, and understand that it's positive. And that's really
all that matters.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Okay, let's stay on this for a second.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Religious as because okay, there are many people that not
only followed the Bledsoe family, but that and Chris of course,
but that are a part of this community. Yesterday we
had another UFO hearing right on Capitol Hill. My father
was there, your father was there, and so that's that's

(25:37):
an et thing, that's an extraterrestrial thing, that is life
outside of this planet that people reference a certain way.
You you know, the lady and the introduction of this,
and and and the Bible. And look that there are
others that will say that there's a religious side of this.

(25:59):
Uh as well, what are you saying here, Are you
suggesting that this has a purely religious component to.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
It or not?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, I'm not saying it has a purely religious component
to it. What I am suggesting is that people should
reverse engineer the way they think about religion and think
about it less in a literal sense, and think about
it more in a mystical sense, and understand that there
are many texts around the world that are documenting supernatural
experiences for many thousands of years, Like the monks in

(26:32):
Tibet in Mexico, they have these flying feathered servants come
down and they have white hair and blue eyes, and
they say their name is Quetzalcoat, and they have messages
from beyond or in Egypt where they talk about spirits
giving them messages, and it goes on and on, the devas,
the nagas, the fairies in Ireland, the gen and the
Middle East. My point is people should not get so

(26:56):
precious and offended when they think of something being religious
or spiritual, because the fact matter is this is a
purely it is a spiritual reality that we cohabit. There
is a hidden spiritual world if you think about it
in the terms of dimensions or quantum. I don't really
care about the semantics. The point is there is something

(27:18):
going on. It is fact to deny, that is to
live and an illusion, you know what I'm saying. So
people need to I highly recommend people check out the
Seven Hermetic Laws and understand that this is a psychic
universe that exists within the mind of the intelligent Creator,
and we are all thoughts within that intelligent creator. And
that is why we are psychic. That is why we

(27:41):
can have extrasensory phenomenon, why we can interface with non
physical beings in another dimension. Is it religious No? Is
it spiritual?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And the ancient past was the Bible actually documenting real
events in history? Yes, and many of them are true.
Do I think we need to go to church and
exactly live by the creed and you know, be a
fundamental Christian? Absolutely not. And I can go on and
on if you want me to.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Uh, it's such an interg you can do whatever you want. Ryan,
you and I are good enough friends to know that
just do what you want. But let me ask it.
But so here's the problem that I have with it,
and it's problems maybe not the right word, but it's

(28:30):
a difficult thing for me to understand. I don't get
the passing of the donation plate in church to cleanse
your soul in a general sense, like overall, right, it's
like that is what things are based. I'm using the
donation plate as a metaphor of course.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, and I agree, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, that that you know. But then okay, now let's
flip this over. The lady sounds to a lot, including myself,
as to being married or representation of Mary. Now, if
the lady shows up in Tibet in front of a monk,

(29:17):
or shows up in India in front of you know,
some hinduced, what what how do they perceive that? You know,
it's it's very strange. Then we have Fatima too as well,
and that it's the similar. I don't know what to
do with this or has it been ET all along

(29:39):
and it's been just represented different ways in different cultures.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
See the conventional understanding of ET is a very very intelligent,
multi generational Ssio, and I think that in time, as
more truth begins to unfold, because the consciousness of humanity
is raising to the point to where you know are into,
will become so powerful that we're basically sifting through the
lies and finding the truth. That's how it was explained

(30:06):
to me that as we spiritually awaken, our intuition will
become so much more powerful that people in mass will
be able to sort of filter out the bull crap
and finally be able to find the truth because it's
all out there. I think in time, when we reach
that point where our perception is so much more powerful,
where we can all resonate inherently with what's true, we're
going to realize that it was about the lady all along.

(30:27):
And I would point the viewer to look back at
this amazing story of three German templar knights and the
year one thousand, two hundred and twenty six, or again,
I would say the year twelve twenty six, where the
lady appeared as ishtar to three German templar knights on
the mountain of Wotan and Salzburg, Germany, and she gave

(30:48):
them like one hundred and thirty four sayings and prophecies,
and in one of them she said, perhaps in a
thousand years I will return when the Golden Age reaches
the hearts of men. It was around until the nineteen
forties when you start hearing about saucer ets, after Aleister
Crowley doing his rituals in the desert, communicating with these

(31:09):
demonic entities that look like grays as he drew them,
started teaching al Ron Hubbard about his ways of Thelma,
and then they go do their rituals in the desert
the Babylon, working to try to tear apart the fabric
of reality. And then from the forties forward is where
you start to have all this modern UFO stuff as
we see it today. Well, it just so happens that
that very same lady that my father experience told him

(31:31):
very bluntly that in the future there will be a
great deception where the powers that be will try their
best to convince the world there is no God, there
is no spiritual reality or soul. It is an alien threat. So,
as far as the classic understanding of ET goes, it's
not really my cup of tea. I live in a

(31:51):
different world entirely.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
The who is okay, who is the lady is the
lady the wife of the one? Is she a representation?
Is she a metaphor is she just a hologram that
is just speaking the news to us and communicating with us.
Who is or does she have a personality?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Does she represent something?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I can only speculate, but I would say that it's
so crazy that maybe all three of those suggestions you
gave could be true. I would recommend, especially for the listener,
to look into gnosticism, which is kind of this heretical,
forbidden alternative Christian teaching, which is a lot more rad

(32:41):
and it talks a lot more about reincarnation and doesn't
make you, you know, swear all these oaths and give
away tides and all that stuff, and the cosmology that
it presents is actually very cool. And it suggests that
this infinite mind that thought the universe into existence perhaps
was so bored that it decided to reflect inward on
it self. And then because of this inner reflection, there

(33:04):
was a psychic action or a psychic movement, and in
that movement there was another thought form that spawned as
a lower emanation, or as people would call emanation theology.
The idea is that that is the lady that she's
like below the you know, the the infinite mind that
created the universe. But it's some sort of expression of

(33:24):
that mind, and that she's like the active principle that
sort of mediates between us silly little mortals and you know,
the highest being in all dimensions.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Why doesn't she And I know you thought about this,
I think about why doesn't she just have her own
YouTube channel? Why do you know what I mean? Why
doesn't she just appear to the world all at once
instead of selectively in the backyard in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, I mean, where would be the fun in that?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I genuinely think that there are Okay, So when we
come here to Earth, I believe if we think of Hell,
I'm just speaking metaphorically, right, If we think of hell,
we think the fundamental Christian way, which means you live
here one life, you get about seventy years, and if

(34:22):
you get it wrong, you're probably going to go burn
in some you know, like a fire somewhere, and that's
that and there's no escape. I think that's a lie.
And I think in reality, if we can all kind
of like take a seat and brace for this impact
and sort of be open minded to what I'm about
to say. I think realistically, we're in Hell now, and

(34:46):
I think that the metaphor is that Hell is not
the next life, but it's actually this one, and we
come here because before we existed as humans, we had
some sort of ego that caused us to fall and
need remediation to evolve to the next level. You could

(35:06):
think about it as the story of the Fallen Angels
and Lucifer falling after looking at the throne of God
and saying, ooh, that looks good for me. Actually not
so fast. You're going down to Hell for a thousand years.
It's a metaphor. Or you could look at the story
of Atlantis. You could think about this society that was
so advanced and had all this technology and spiritual understanding.

(35:29):
It falls right now. We kind of have to re
evolve back up to that form of society. All of
these models are saying the same thing. The general idea
is that we come here, we do our hard time,
we learn our lessons, we purge our negative karma, and
then we're off to the next place. So I think
if we can all just kind of be open minded

(35:49):
to the idea of Hell being more now that's actually
really good news because depending on how you view it
and how you live your life, you know, it could
be worse. It could be a lot worse. And that's
kind of the reason that this is the symbol of
my podcast, because it's actually a very subtle play on
the Philosopher's Stone, which is an ancient alchemical symbol that means,

(36:12):
through your mindset, through your thoughts and your beliefs, and
through doing the inner work, you can exist in the
state of heaven or hell if you choose. So, you know,
I choose to live a joyful life and be happy
and be positive and help others by uplifting them, and
to me, it can sometimes be very heavenly.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
That reminds me. I'm going to bring this up just
because you have a great laugh. I'm going to make
you laugh. I want everybody to understand. Ryan and I
we hang out a lot. But Ryan and I we
were oh, oh, I remember how this happened? I call right,

(36:52):
we were supposed to meet to eat and we got separated.
But I said where are you? And he goes, man,
I'm on this street. I'm walking out of this restaurant
and you And I said, well, I think I'm there,
and I look and you come out, all right, and
there's Ryan. I said, oh, we're about two hundred yards apart,
but we see each other, so we and and so

(37:13):
we go in. It turned out to be a cheese
steak place, which was freaking phenomenal. Right, So we order
this food and we go out and uh or they
bring it to us. But we're sitting out front and
Ryan and I bite into these onion rings all right now.

(37:34):
And why I bring this up to everybody. Life isn't
necessarily sitting down with somebody and talking about the negativity
of the world or et contact or this or that,
or spiritual or consciousness or no. Sometimes the joy in
life is biting into the ultimate onion ring with a friend, right, yes,

(37:57):
And do you remember that, you remember our joy? Remember
that whole And we talked about onion rings for fifteen.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Minutes, Yeah, and many other fun things.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, right right, right right right, And that is uh
living a joyous life man. And you're you're right about that.
What about if we if we again look at this
with the lady, how do I say this? So many

(38:31):
on this planet, I'm not I'm not planning a flag
here discovering anything. So many people want somebody to come
along and rescue us. Why is that? Why can't we
just start with ourselves. Okay, I live in a town
outside of Los Angeles that is not exposed to If

(38:56):
I didn't read the news, right, I wouldn't know about
any of this stuff. I live in a safe, cool,
quiet town where there's no drama. And if I didn't
jump on social media or see the news or I
wouldn't know. There's no negativity in my world. Right, I've

(39:18):
already the process that you're talking about. I've rinsed that karma.
I could literally live here and not get involved with
the stress of the world, right, you understand, But so
many people are out there dealing with it that they
want somebody to come in and rescue us. When shouldn't
it rest on the individual?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, it should, And it's very complicated, and I think
that's like kind of getting into you know, the big
problem with you know, all of humankind. And I think
there's a great sickness in the world, and it is
you know, it's hard to blame in the jewels when
there's so much misinformation and psychological warfare being pumped to

(40:06):
the masses, and people are being radicalized towards one another
and divided. I mean, I don't even need to go
into what happened. You already talked about what happened today.
But you know, people are so violent towards ideas that
are different than theirs, and just in general, it's crazy
right now to to to exist sometimes depending on where

(40:29):
you're at. And I think on that path, if that,
if that were to continue, which it will not, and
I have full faith that the light will win.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I'm always in honest, I agree with you, with you.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I believe it's imperative to be an optimist about the
future because like attracts, like you attract what you are right.
But anyway, if that were to continue in mass and
everybody kind of be on the same wave and the
sickness and the division and the fear, I think we
would just ourselves. And that's actually not my idea. One

(41:04):
of the things the Lady told my father back when
she first came in twenty twelve, and she came again
in twenty thirteen, something she said was that the earth
is a living being. It's a complex organism that is
attached to the resonance of our collective consciousness, that we
are like entangled with the mind of the earth. We
exist in harmony with it. It's kind of like a symbiosis,

(41:27):
you know. As we are raising our vibrant or I
should say, lowering our vibration to a fearful state, it's
harming the earth, and the earth is encoded to protect
itself first and foremost. So the lady said that if
we were to continue down the path of fear and
darkness and hatred and negativity, that it might just kind
of shake us off to save itself. But she said

(41:50):
that as it is written, so shall it be, and
that the light will win. That the suffering of humanity
will only be allowed to go on so far. Before
so far or they come in and they, you know,
they do something about it, and that it's important that
we the people down here, raise our vibration and shift
towards love, be more kind to other people. I believe

(42:14):
I don't want to make an opinion either way. I'm
talking about everybody when I say this next statement, okay,
because the last thing I'm going to do is push
some political message. In fact, my message is the opposite.
I believe that if anybody has radical political beliefs, and
I mean radical as in very very extreme. I believe

(42:39):
that they are victims of mind control and they are
losing the spiritual war that is after every one of
our souls by very dark forces.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And no, you're not You're not wrong. You're you're not
wrong in that. And it's it's so easy today for
those that want to to control. It's easy, dude, It's
so easy, you know. And it was pretty easy in

(43:09):
the past. All right. You know how if you you
are a historian, and that's one of the things that
I really enjoy about you, right, and that's fantastic. But
if we go back Egypt for a thousand years, a

(43:31):
thousand years, no wars, no wars, think about that, where
they were able to focus on the self and consciousness
and creativity and friendship and family and growth and all
of those things. Right, they had a thousand and then suddenly,

(43:55):
you know, people from the outside they never Egypt, never invaded,
you know, never went outside of their board. And they know,
you know what, they went to Israel a few times
to get wood. They didn't go there to conquer, you
know what I mean. And they just they and and
that's an example of where we should be, and we

(44:19):
got away from that, and why do we get away
from it? Control? So back then, I want your response
to this. Back then, how easy was it to control?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
It was?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
You had one leader of the village, one leader of
the city, one leader of the country that said God said, Well,
nobody had the ability to confirm you couldn't. There were
no newspapers or televisions or telephones or they know. You
accepted what God said, and control was put into place,

(44:55):
all right for a lot of different reasons. Surviving crops, food,
the neighbors that were pissed off, power, right, all of that. Okay, yeah,
today that control, that same version of control for those
that want to use is easy. You pop somebody in
a bubble. They're on the internet, they're in their little

(45:18):
political religious it could be skateboarding. Maybe they're in the
skateboards Ryan, and so that bubble on the internet is, oh,
this guy's into skateboarding, this girl's in this skateboarding. You
get you think that everybody around you is in this
skateboards and a skateboard controversy and whatever it may be.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
It's a good point.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So today, right, if you're pissed off,
and you're walking down the street and you're pissed off
about something that happened in your bubble. Some kind of
fear has been pushed on you, which is all done
with automation and machine learning. You think that everybody else
is experiencing the same pissed offness as you, and they

(46:05):
are not. That is control and they know that they
can do it now, And it's crazy how this is
happening does and I just don't what's the solution? How
do we pull people back out of that bubble?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
You know, I don't know the solution. That's way over
my pay grade. And also, you've really gassed me up.
I've never considered myself a historian. I'm just interested in history.
I had no clue there was one thousand years a
piece in Egypt. That's very interesting. I also had no
clue that they never went out and attacked other nations.
But how do we find a solution for that? I

(46:42):
don't know the reason that they're doing it. It's as
you said, it's control, right. I think it's for power.
I think it's because and enough people don't acknowledge this,
but there is actually a dark force that the powers
that be worship and they are in communion with it,
and I think it gives them power and control and

(47:06):
status and influence and wealth when they do horrible nefarious
things to subjugate the masses. You know what I mean.
This power structure has probably been in place since Babylon
or even before that, you know. And I don't know

(47:27):
the solution, other than every individual human being should be
aligning with, you know, more positive ideals, morals, honor, respect,
empathy towards other people, kindness, And I think that everyone
should strive to be like the Buddha or Christ like.

(47:50):
It's the only way out of here. It's the only
way to get out of this problem. It's the only
way to I believe, stop reincarnating here and actually begin
to be free after death to go to other worlds.
I believe that when more people think about candles, right,
or you ever be at a wedding and like they

(48:10):
do the sparkler thing at the end when they're sitting
off the bride and groom and they're like like the
one on the end, and then everybody has to like
the sparklers down the line. It's like that, the more
people that awaken and begin to be positive and you know,
on that spiritual path, it causes this avalanche where the
global consciousness, that awakening unfolds to where we can manifest

(48:32):
a completely better reality together.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I'm almost at the point where my reality is very
close to just focusing on my Harley and UFOs, where
I just don't give a shit anymore. I am a
positive person. I do positive things, Ryan, you know as

(48:58):
well as anybody. You've seen me sitting at a table
with twenty people and I pick up the check, right,
That's what I do. I want people to be happy.
I want I just want conversations with different people at
the table, and I want my world to be like

(49:20):
that everybody around. And then I want beyond that, the
community to be like that, and I want the city
to be like that, and I want the country to
be like that. And I do my little peace, you
know what I mean? You know? And I know sometimes
I come across as a dick. I know that, but
it's because I'm different. I'm different than you, I'm different

(49:41):
than everybody else. But I'm not wearing a mask, and
I just I really want the whole world to be
that way. Be who you are, right, just be who
you are. Do your thing and grow and be kind
and be positive. That's it. That's It's like maybe this
secret to life, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I think so? Yep, just be kind. That's why it's
the golden rule. And many ancient systems.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Now could e t not ET arriving, hearing and helping us.
I just don't think that'll be the case, By the way,
I have my own opinion on that. I've spoken to
you and your father about this. I just have a
twisted mind. But no, I think that the answer that

(50:35):
will come from ET is that it will allow us
as a planet to shift our focus from anger at
our neighbors and our brothers and sisters to uniting as
a planet and then making friends and building a relationship
with our ET brothers and sisters that are out there
in the cosmos, And that will completely shift away of

(51:00):
thinking on this planet and will certainly take the power
away from the people that pursue it. Right. That's kind
of a little secret ingredient with ET, isn't it. Well.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I kind of speculate a few outcomes here, and something
that I'm absolutely convinced is that, like the Dogon tribe
in Africa said five thousand years ago, that there is
a invisible, hidden spiritual world that is in harmony with
our world, and that every so many number of years.

(51:37):
If you think of the universe as a cosmic clock, right,
that's why we have constellations, the zodiac. They're like the
grand cosmic cycle of the universe, and there's even bigger
ones than that, like twenty six thousand year cycles. I
believe that we are approaching a time where we're reaching

(51:58):
a certain point on that cosmic clock, very very very
far distance of time from you know, when the cycle began,
that that hidden spiritual world will cross with the material world,
and there will be such a thing where what are

(52:19):
normally invisible spiritual entities will be able to much more
readily manifest into our world. And I believe that the
powers that be know this, which is why they're attacking
our story, the bloods of story, suppressing us, trying to
shut it down. When I was a child, people in
NASA indicated things to me about this time right now,

(52:41):
twenty twenty five, that their disclosure up would be on
the table many many years later. You know, my dad
sees the lady. He starts talking about the star alignment
she gave for a shift into a new knowledge. People
start throwing around twenty twenty six. My dad's been putting
out twenty twenty six publicly for a very long time,
and then you have other people coming around saying twenty

(53:02):
twenty seven. So there's all these different forces that are
you know, coalescing here to indicate to me that there
actually may be some sort of impending shift.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
That's interesting. Do you think that three I at lists
is something that we need to pay attention to?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I mean, I think it's a little ridiculous that they're
saying it's like a hostile alien threat says who you know?
And that's the kind of thing where people should kind
of check themselves and realize, wait, where are they getting
this information, and why would they be saying this, and
why would they be pushing something so fearful?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
That's the game, isn't it? That's the game? But do
you think that three I at liss is not natural?
Do you think it's it is technology? Or is it
or do you think it's just a comment that happens
to be ejecting and aluminum or whatever is coming out
of the back of it.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
To be honest, I don't think about it when I
see posts about it. I roll my eyes, and those
kinds of things don't really concern me because we live
in such a world where and when I say we,
I mean my family, that people from many different areas
of access and walks of life are calling us, are

(54:24):
vying for our attention, are asking for answers and information
about what these beings are and what's happening. Just two
nights ago, I'm starting to see I'm hearing it from
YouTube that my dad is seeing orbs over the Capitol Building.
He texts me and says, watch this video, and it's
this long video about my dad out there skywatching with
s I watched the video and there's orbs over the

(54:47):
Capitol Building. So that's kind of what I'm living in,
where every year and then every month, month over month,
it's getting crazier and crazier, and things are actually happening.
Sightings are actually happening, Meetings are being had with Pentagon officials, congressmen,
tech and government scientific executives, people from all walks of life.

(55:07):
So then I look on social media and I see,
you know, hostile alien tac throughout Alice. I just rolled
my eyes and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Yeah, Yeah, you're right about that. I totally agree. But
here is the flip side of that. Nobody knows that
it's hostile alien tech. Anybody that says that they don't
know what they're talking about because nobody knows. But here's
the flip side. Washington, we had the hearing yesterday. The

(55:33):
Congressional hearing was phenomenal. That video was crazy. We can
talk about that too. But all of that is great,
but people are not really paying enough attention to that.
Our community is I am your father is I've had
phone calls all day today. I'm going to be doing
a TV show about it this week and in a

(55:54):
couple of days. So yeah, I get that, But the
rest of the world doesn't know about that. They don't
trust me. There's eight billion people on this planet. Eight
billion of them know nothing about the congressional hearings. Eight
billion of them know nothing, don't know what UAP means.
That's a very small sliver of what's going on in

(56:17):
this planet. You know what the eight billion people will
pay attention to If three I Atlas is alien tech,
If that is that, then the whole world becomes aware
of it all at one time. Not Luna and Burchett, right,

(56:38):
you know that are wonderful people.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
But you raise a good point.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah, yeah, so maybe we need that slap upside the
head where the whole world suddenly is observing alien tech
cruising by our sun at one hundred and fifty thousand
miles per.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Hour, or whether it's alien tech or not, just the
buzz of you know, the postings and the claims, getting
people's attention and speculating because what's going to happen is
probably nothing's going to come of it like usual. And
I do think you're right that the majority of people
around the world probably don't care so much about specific
congressmen talking about UFOs, only the UFO fanatics.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, there was nothing. There was very little talk in
the media about yesterday's hearings, which were dude, incredible. I
mean that was insane. But the BBC did a little
blurb on it. What's that there's another network? What's it called?
It doesn't matter that another network covered a Fox probably

(57:42):
covered it. But did everybody else on the planet cover it?

Speaker 4 (57:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Should they have? Yeah, it was a it was a
pretty pretty pretty important congressional hearing. I'm looking forward to
number four. What did you make of before we hit
the brake. I just have to ask you, what'd you
make of that video?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Are you talking about the one with the missile thing?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, shooting the Yeah, you know, I was.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I just was exposed to that today. And I'm ashamed
to say this, but I really didn't try to look
at my phone too much because every time I scrolled
it was just videos of Charlie Kirk getting assassinated. And
I was exposed to that video and it kind of
put a damper on my mood. And also like every
time I'm scrolling, I'm just seeing all the stuff about it.

(58:30):
So I really just unplugged in that time that I
looked and I saw this horrible news. I saw the
video for like five seconds and I was just like,
I don't care, and I turned it off. Interesting video,
but I will say I'm very hesitant to just gobble

(58:51):
up whatever comes out of these mainstream sources. Looked like
it could be a legit video, but I, you know,
I just could care nonetheless about the kind of stuff
that they're posting because I've had conversations with actual, very
high level people in the d D, particularly the CIA,

(59:12):
tell me straight up that they're going to continue to
lie publicly, and you know they well, okay, let me
make a message to push.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Right right right, So let me give you a little background,
because you're probably not aware of this. Burlison and Burchette
were shown this video. It was not declassified, it was
not for public release, and they said, screw it. They
didn't give a shit. They were going to show this

(59:40):
to the world. And so that video was not for release.
That was a Department of Defense video that they were
shown in a skiff. They got ahold of the video
and they went ahead and showed it at the congressional hearing.
That's a pretty big deal. That didn't come from the media,
That wasn't leaked from some UFO celebrity.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Right, okay, And I didn't know all that content.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah, that's why that video was so important. And yeah,
yeah it was pretty Do you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Know what I love about it? I love that it
shows how horrible humans are by trying to shoot a
missile shoo first.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that's a really I thought
the same thing. That's exactly what we do, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Most people don't know this, but in the very first
encounter my dad had back in two thousand and seven
after his regression. My dad doesn't talk about this that often,
but I remember everything he ever told me, and certain
parts were very important to me, and I've talked about
them many times on other shows. But the beings actually
showed my dad visions of the human powers of the world,

(01:00:46):
like the governments, you know, America and many others, shooting
missiles at them, and them just basically telling my dad
that they're powerless and they live in fear of these
beings and they're not really up to good intentions, the beings,
but the human government.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, it was pretty fair.
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Our guest is Ryan Bloodsoe. An amazing conversation. Let's get
straight back to it. Ryan. Why the interest with intelligence
agencies and the Bloodsoe family is it because they understand

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the phenomena and they know that what is happening to
the Bloodsoe family and not the property in and around
Chris and you guys is real and they know and
they can compare their data set with what is going
on with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I mean, if you think about their intentions, it
is to be in control and the worst catastrophic nightmare
for the military, the powers that be, the DoD whatever
is some sort of immortal, invisible, invincible entity coming from

(01:06:13):
another place and empowering people to manifest a better life,
healing people of sicknesses, helping people awaken their psychic sensus.
That's like their worst nightmare. So you have to think
that for a very long time, they've been trying to
poison the knowledge that humanity has about the spiritual forces.

(01:06:33):
That's why we have religion. As we talked about earlier
in the episode, you asked, is it a religious thing? Well,
I'm not religious. You know, there's a difference between spiritual
and religion. So to answer your question through Mofon, I
know they do it in a lot of different ways now.
But back in the day when I was a kid

(01:06:54):
and my dad did his first report and all that
stuff went down through Moufon, the CIA was spying on
American citizens by collecting data about reports of UFOs and
supernatural phenomenon, and then like when it got to our case,
they were like, oh wow, we have a real one
on our hands. They installed spooks, is what they told us.

(01:07:18):
They were low level spooks or spies to hush up
our story and make us look bad. And through these
reporting agencies and through social media, through even some programs
on like YouTube and others that are like pushing this
UFO narrative. There are a lot of different ponds that

(01:07:39):
these agencies have their hooks in to try to trick
people and sort of censor the truth getting out to
the masses. They do their whole dog and pony show
on TV, on the media, you know, all of it.
So yeah, I think that the reason they were so
interested in our family based on what they told us
was that they knew it was real. It freaks them out.

(01:08:02):
Their worst catastrophic fear is some being coming down and
making the government lose their power, because if the truth
of this were to really come out, everybody would be
enraged because they would see that people were lying, killing,
stealing data and materials, suppressing information, harassing witnesses, and it

(01:08:28):
goes on and on and on, and people would never
trust them again. If the truth really came out. So
did that really answer your question or was I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah, yeah, you did. You did with those I'll just
say people, you know, it's a broad term that started
to come in and around your family. Did you develop
a way and did the family develop a way to

(01:08:59):
figure out who was somebody that you could trust and
keep in the circle and who and others that were
trying to poison the situation? Do you guys develop a
system to weed that stuff out?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, I would say so. And I would say that
life's and journey for everybody. And sometimes you make friends
with someone and after many years it doesn't work out
and it's just complicated, you know, or relationships or whatever.
And you let people in your home and you think
they have good intentions and then they don't. They burn
you later and it's you know, out the door. And
it's been a lot of that sometimes. And then a

(01:09:36):
lot of some people come into our life, and I
mean like government or otherwise, and they're telling us in secret.
I'm so sorry for the way you retreated. Back then
the subject was classified. We're going to keep you know,
the lie going and talking the negative stuff. But you
have to go tell your story because the world deserves
to hear the positive side. It's very important. You need

(01:09:58):
to go write your book, you need to keep going
public behind the scenes. I support you, but we're going
to continue, you know, going the negative route publicly. And
it's a lot of stuff like that. People sometimes are upfront.
Some people associated with the DIA have given us death
threats and harassed us. And then an orb appeared ground

(01:10:19):
level behind his head and my dad laughs at him
and says, you know, it's their turn around. Look, and
then he turns around. Look, and he never came back
and we never had a death threat again. It's been
a while ride, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
When we look at the government and their involvement in
this issue, in the phenomenon, both with the Bloodstell family
and of course in a broader context, it appears that
there are those that want this out right. I think
it's our fundamental right as human beings to know what's

(01:10:57):
going on. It's nature. This isn't you know, it's nature.
We have the right to know about wales, chimpanzees and
life in the universe. You know, why should that be
kept from us? But there are others that don't want
this out is Congress starting to find out the hard

(01:11:19):
way that this is exactly what is going on, that
there are many in Congress that are finding out for
the first time that and the Senate, by the way,
that the phenomena is real, and that this information is
being kept from them, and it's what this community and
others have been talking about for so long. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know what to say
other than we have spoken to some I say we,
I mean my dad in this case, I personally have not,
but I say we as in the whole bloods of
family as a collective, you know. But we've spoken to
some Congressman, some senators, some people from that department, you know,

(01:12:02):
government agencies, intelligence agencies, military agencies. There are it's not
all bad. They're not all bad, and it's it's tough
not to sometimes get stuck in black and white thinking
when you're dealing with complicated matters. But it's impossible for
every member of every organization to be on the same page.

(01:12:23):
It's totally impossible. You talked about skateboarding fanatics earlier. Well,
maybe you like one brand of wheels, and then your
homie that you skateboard with every day he likes another
and no number of people are always one hundred percent
on the same page. And it's the same with these agencies.
Some of them want the truth out, many of them don't.
It seems, based on many thousands of years of evidence,

(01:12:47):
that there is unfortunately some sort of secret oligarchy in place,
this very small but extremely powerful and all encompassing power
structure pulling the strings from the top. Most people don't
really know who they are, what their game is. They
run the show and they're the ones directing these intelligence agencies,

(01:13:08):
these military you know, operations, banks, everything. But there are
people within those institutions who are like me and you,
and they want the truth out, so they do what
they can with their position to you know, try and
serve the greater good. And that's what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Is there anybody you don't have to name names, but
you can if you want. Is there anybody out there
publicly that does know the truth or is anybody that
does know the truth about this not talking right? We

(01:13:49):
don't know their names that the ones that are out
front talking about this as people that know the facts
on this, they they don't. Or is there somebody out
there that you know of that that has the secrets
that is, is a public person right now public facing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
That's a hard question because you know, you have to
understand that a lot of military or intelligence personnel have
come to us and they've said things in private and
support and then publicly they've said some of them, like
literally have been on shows publicly lying, some of them

(01:14:30):
them being the people, multiple different people. Some of them
have lied about us, some of them have lied about
the phenomenon being negative, when in private they tell us,
you know, they know that our version is correct, and
we have to continue to tell it right, you know,
because they are obligated to lie because it's the agenda.
It's complicated. I would say that a lot of the

(01:14:53):
people in Congress that you're hearing about, they are getting
briefings from people in the military. They're not getting briefings
from people like my dad who's actually experienced this stuff
tens of thousands of time, and it's literally the expert.

(01:15:13):
They're getting the threat narrative, they're getting the scary stuff.
They're getting the classified briefings and all that crap that
the military has given them. I will say, though I'm
not sure if I should say who there is somebody
from Congress right now?

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Who is getting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Briefings from my dad?

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Mmm? Who? Set?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I'm not sure if I say, I gotta ask Ryan
my dad has my dad has? Uh? Has he's He's
tweeted pictures with him before.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Okay, okay, so it's a heat, you know what. There
was a comment and then I want to move on. Uh,
I'm going to talk about them in Roe Institute. Uh,
perfect and jump into that. But I think it was
burchet One of the I think one of the most
extraordinary pieces of video footage that's ever been shot in

(01:16:04):
Washington is Burchett walking down the hall, right videos rolling,
and he says, you know, we're being lied to. We've
been lied to. I'm being lied to. The public is
being lied to, and this is a bunch of bullshit,
you know, and about UFOs. And I'm like, that's exactly

(01:16:27):
the reality check that not only the public needs, but
Congress needs and the Senate needs. I think that that
control and that comfort of controlling this information where they
were just like, no, we don't have to tell the truth,
and we're not going to and that's it. You can

(01:16:47):
do whatever you want and we're not going to reveal
or talk about this, and I'm specifically talking about like
the Air Force. You know, the Air Force doesn't give
a crap no matter what Congress wants to do or
say about it. And that's the frustration I think that
Congress is seeing right now where our community, as you know,

(01:17:10):
has been talking about this for a long time, but
nobody wanted to pay attention. Now Congress is dealing with
it and the Senate is dealing with it, and they're
realizing that we haven't been crazy all of these years,
that that is exactly the situation that we find ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Right Yeah, And I think you're absolutely right that, like
you know, the Air Force, for example, or other militaries,
they're not going to just come out and tell the
truth because then they would be implicated in the lie.
If the truth was to come out, it would show
that actually a lot of crimes have been committed by
people in power. I think that individuals like Luna Representative Luna,

(01:17:48):
I have not met her. My dad is in Washington,
DC right now for the last three days. I can't
say if he's met her or not yet, although I
wouldn't be surprised if that has happened by now. There's
a lot going on behind the scenes with us. Eric
Berlison timber Chet have not met him, although I would

(01:18:09):
be interested to because he seems to be really interested
in getting this issue out there. I think some of
these people in Congrus really do have a desire to
get this stuff out, but they have limited knowledge because
their knowledge is not by experts. The knowledge that they're
receiving is by the military, who, as you said, is
never going to tell the truth. They're going to feed

(01:18:29):
them what they're going to feed them. They're going to
tell them the threat narrative. They're going to show them
things like missiles being shot at orbs. They're not gonna,
you know, unless we have the privilege to tell them
and them have like private meetings with us, which kind
of is sort of happening now. If I'm going to
be completely honest, it's sort of going that direction. Unless

(01:18:51):
they hear it from us about the positive stuff, like
you know, a dozen plus people's cancers being healed and
other extreme illnesses and injury from interacting with this phenomenon
and the blessings and the amazing manifestations that has brought
into people's life. They're going to continue to hear the
negative stuff from the military, So we'll see what happens.
Dad's in DC right now, and a lot of really

(01:19:13):
interesting stuff has been happening.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Yeah. I spent the entire day on the phone with
people from Washington today discussing this all day, all day,
all day. I think that there is a lot of
big stuff about to happen, only because this required baby steps.
I don't think that, you know, after Grush and the

(01:19:37):
other things that we have been dealing with with Congress
in Washington, that this whole thing was going to blow
open overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
No, no, it's going to take baby steps. But we
are definitely you know, we've got a hot, hot piece
of wood poking in the eye of the bear right now,
and that's what that's what it's going to take. And
I think I think that we're close. I really do.
It's like, man, I can feel it, you know, It's
like it's like it's right here, it's right here. Yeah,

(01:20:10):
let's let's change gears a little bit. Let's have some fun.
I mean, it's all fun. Yesterday was extraordinary and I
was in such a great mood, like all of us were,
you know, seeing this progress and and everything else in
your dad calling in orbs over the Capitol building. That
was pretty cool. And then today it's just like, man,

(01:20:32):
in a weird way, everything good that happens gets covered
up in the news cycle. It's weird, man, It's such
a predictable thing to happen, you know. And and today
was a sad day. But the Monroe Institute, all right,

(01:20:54):
I'm gonna be there, gonna be I'm going well, hold on,
you haven't heard what I have to say. Let me
get to the question, Ryan young Man. I'm going to
be there in December for a week, and you know
what I'm about to do, right, I'm going to go
through the program and I'm going to do it. I

(01:21:15):
have asked to be a civilian in this. Start me
here and and and take me through the processes. How
am I? What am I going to experience? How am
I going to change?

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Okay, so understand, I am now a certified outreach trainer
with them as of two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
So yay me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
That was a year of school love Monroe. I completely
support them and the like you know, on the same
path with them and all that. So with that being said,
with me now officially being an outreach trainer, I'm going
to do this the right way and not sort of
give away the goods. There has to be room to
explore and be surprised. If I tell you too much

(01:22:04):
about what you're going to experience, it won't have the
same effect. So I'll say it like this. Throughout the week,
you are going to go through progressively deeper states of
consciousness through very powerful meditation sessions. Basically it's going to
be about four to five hours a day of meditation.

(01:22:26):
You are going to learn how to vary efficiently reach
targeted states of consciousness. So, in other words, through many,
many years of it's been almost fifty years actually that
the Benrosa tuo has been a thing, and thousands and

(01:22:46):
thousands of repeated times back in like the seventies and
all throughout still today, they're doing this kind of work.
They would get egs, they put it on the brain.
They know exactly what frequencies take the brain to exactly
specific states, and they know exactly what kind of psychic

(01:23:06):
abilities or extrasensory phenomenon can happen in different targeted brain
wave states. So you're going to go through like four
or five of those in that week that you're there
learning how to access really cool states of consciousness through meditation.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Do we all have the ability to get there?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Absolutely? We do, And you are not getting there because
of the sound. You are not getting there, you know,
for any reason other than the incredible magical power of
your own brain that we all have. And we know
for a fact that the brain becomes entrained with its
environment and that when you listen to it's binoral beats. Right,

(01:23:48):
are you familiar? The Monroe'situte invented this. Robert Monroe invented
binoral beats through this concept. Because the human ear can
only hear twenty herts and above. Anything below the human
ear cannot detect it. But we know that a lot
of really powerful brainwave states exist below twenty eight is
that alpha? Or anything slightly above eight, like nine to ten,

(01:24:11):
that's alpha. And then as you're getting below eight, you're
starting to get into theta, which is the state of
dreaming at night when you're asleep. And then below four
you're in delta, which is like really powerful deep sleep states.
You're gonna be hovering somewhere around that while you're awake,
learning really powerful tools to explore, you know, explore other realities,

(01:24:33):
to gain information through you know, thought. It's really cool stuff.
But yeah, everybody can do this because when your two
hemispheres of your brain become entrained together, like what's the
word synchronized, that's been really powerful stuff can begin to happen.

(01:24:54):
And that's why it's called Hemi sinc. Their technology is
Hemi sync, which means Hemi's fear synchronization. So you're synchronizing
the two sides of your brain to work together to
do some really cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Are we just now with Monroe and others that are
looking at consciousness and how our brain works? Are we
just now getting back to what the ancients already had
a grip on?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I do think so. I think you're absolutely right, and
I think that's where we're headed. I think that Atlantis
is a metaphor if you really get down into like
you know, the Rosicrucians, the Templar Knights and some of
these other groups that really talk about Atlantis, and that's
kind of the premise of all of their mysteries. They
indicate that Atlantis was not a physical place, but that

(01:25:43):
it was a state of being for reality. I think
that's the whole point of human life here in the
grand cosmic cycle is we kind of get back to
that peak, which would be like Atlantis, where we have
this technology, ultimate spiritual understanding, maybe dimensional travel, all kinds
of crazy stuff. We get wiped out through cataclysm or

(01:26:04):
through our own ego, we destroy ourselves, and then we
re evolve back to that point in this this eternal cycle.
And that's why you see the oraboris eating its tail,
you know that old Norse symbol of the snake swimming
around the earth eating its own tail, Because that's what
that means.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I what I Okay, I want to do it for
a lot of things. One for myself, right. Two I
want to understand the process. But three there's three, four
and five, But three would be two. Have an ability
to ask questions for the with guests that have been

(01:26:45):
through the process, so the audience can understand better what
because I haven't been through the experience, right, I don't understand.
But I will be able to take that education and
the and the growth that I will have have and
then turn that into a really good interview and show.

(01:27:08):
Fourth thing is to help Monroe get the exposure that
they need, right and so that people can have a
broader understanding of everything. But here's here's the fifth reason
why I'm doing it right. And all of that is good.
Those are good reasons, and those are legit. When et
comes Ryan and et Lands and they go, okay, all right,

(01:27:34):
it's all about consciousness and we need to talk to
all the Minroe people. I think that's what they're gonna say. Man,
they're gonna go, you know, it's about consciousness. It's it
isn't about technology and black holes. It's about your next
stage of evolution, and I want to better understand that, man,

(01:27:55):
and I'm going to do it through Monroe.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I think that's the most important reason. All those other
reasons are great, but the most important one is you're
going to explore aspects of yourself. Maybe you already have
through some other method, through some other discipline. That's fine.
Monroe's an amazing place because there's absolutely zero dogma other
than you are more than your physical body. So you

(01:28:18):
come as you are, You believe what you want to believe.
They don't push any sort of beliefs on you. And
anything that you are instructed to try, or any question
you have about reality, the trainers will say, you know,
go explore, find out for yourself. They're just giving you
tools to explore yourself and to explore other realities on
your own. And I think you're going to find that

(01:28:41):
you'll be different after the program, but for the better.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
And how about yourself, what about your psychic abilities? What changed?

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Well, that's a good question because I grew up with
a complex because by the time I was fourteen years old,
the United States Army was sending remote view manuals to
our mailbox because words started traveling through the intelligence communities
that my dad could remote view. And next thing you know, he's,
you know, remote viewing with Colonel John Alexander to stop

(01:29:12):
an assassination of the Pope in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen,
and all these crazy things. There's a thousand things that
I'd have to sit all night and think about them
and tell you the wild stuff that my dad has done.
When I was growing up, and I had this complex
that I'll never be like that, that I'll never have
these abilities, that my dad is special. And I'm not

(01:29:32):
not that that's against my dad, but I think everybody
has their own insecurities, you know, And I always grew
up like, oh, man, I'll never be able to do
anything like that, And then I went to the monrostitute
and that limiting belief washed away. And now many times
if I'm just like laying in bed at night. This

(01:29:52):
isn't the same for everybody, but it does happen for
quite a few people. I'll just go out of body,
just poof spontaneously in there in bed, and next thing
I know, I'm out of body.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Or wait, wait, wait a whole lot a minute here.
That's okay, how how does that happen? Do you just
say let's go or is it from another process?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Well, that's kind of a little bit of what you're
going to be doing in your week there. That's that's
a part of you know, some of the things you'll learn.
And my advice to you is just go in with
an open mind and no intention other than to explore.
And and yeah, I mean, Monroe is very famous because
one of the things that they do teaches out of

(01:30:38):
body travel. But the idea is it's never guaranteed, it's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Okay, Okay, you didn't answer the question because I didn't
ask it the right way. Okay, So that's not me.
So let's if I'm walking around my house and I've
got a spare hour, which is rare. Right, you know
what I do? I go, man, let's go right to Harley.
So this is the process. I go out, I put

(01:31:06):
on the helmet, I've got the key fob, I warm
up the bike, and I take off. That's how it's done.
So I'm asking you when you're laying in bed at
night and you go, you go out of body? How
does that happen? Is it like you're going, you know what,
let's go out of body?

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
So tell me about the process.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
No, I'm not doing the process. I'm the question you
asked is what changed for me after Monroe. I'm telling
you that there's many nights I lay there and I
spontaneously go out of bud.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Oh spontaneously, I didn't hear. That's that's a key word. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yes, there have been a few times where I've used
some methods that I've learned and done it, you know,
by my own will. But then there's also been way
more times after I've completed the program. What I'm what
I'm trying to get at here without giving away the process,
and because you know you're to front load, you know,

(01:32:07):
and kind of ruin your experience. What I'm trying to
say is after you start to do this work, it's
only the beginning, and over time it begins to grow
and and your abilities begin to unfold, and limitations begin
to be released, and you start to explore other aspects

(01:32:29):
of yourself that maybe you weren't in touch with. But
everybody is psychic. Everybody fundamentally has these abilities. But you
play guitar, I played drums. Maybe you're a talented remote viewer.
I couldn't care less to do that. I don't find
it that interesting. It's so normal to me. But out

(01:32:50):
of body, that's interesting. You know, that's something I could
probably be pretty good at. Some people bend spoons, some
people can light light bulbs with their hands, or make
seeds grow. You know, they have a program to do
all this kind of stuff. Everybody's different, everybody has different talents.
And at Gateway, which is going to be the program
that I assume that they're putting you in, that's right,

(01:33:11):
You're going to kind of explore a lot of these
different modalities to like basically, you know, unfold parts of yourself.
If that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Do you uh? When the out body spontaneously happens and
I'm asking this from a naive position. Okay, all right,
do you get to because everybody wonders the same thing.
Are you steering? Do you get to choose where you

(01:33:46):
are going or what you are observing? Are you in
control of that?

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
It's actually different for everybody. For me personally, no, For
a lot of people, yes. And there's an entire spectrum
experiences that happen out of ordinary state of consciousness, which
we're in right now, which is when you're just having
a conversation, you're basically alert and focused, You're grounded into

(01:34:12):
your body. That's like the we'll just say that's base
level consciousness, right. There's a large spectrum of phasing out
of the body where some people like me, for example,
it's just poof, I'm an ancient egypt and I'm laying
in a sarcophagus and there's a being a light talking
to me, or I'm six hours in the future and
that actually did happen one time and I saw something

(01:34:34):
very specific play out, or you know, sometimes you're being
shown metaphorical things, you know, like a psychedelic trip. It's
different for everybody and for every experience I personally have
not had, except for one where I had a degree
of actual control of where I was going and what
I was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Where did you choose to go?

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Honestly, I think I was just like I d a
running around like the flash.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Yeah, I'm kind of flying around a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
About a year ago. I don't want to get into
the specifics of this because also I don't want to
freak people out, because I was actually freaked out. I've
never talked about this. I want to know if this
has ever happened to you. And again, I'm going to
speak in general terms. I don't want to speak like
all of this is fact or I mean, like precise things.

(01:35:31):
I don't want people to know the specifics. But anyway,
I lost a day. Wow, Okay, And this is how
it happened. I woke up in the morning and planned

(01:35:57):
my day like I was planning a very specific day
of the week. And I started off doing everything that
I was going to do that day all right, and
halfway through and I mean I had conversations with people
I was doing this, I was scheduling, you know, and man,

(01:36:23):
I found out about eight hours into that day that
it wasn't that day, it was the next day. And
I was doing the day like it was the previous day,
and I scared the shit out of myself. I mean

(01:36:45):
I literally went, you've got to be kidding me, And
what happened to yesterday? I now, what have you ever
heard of anything quite like this? I could get into specifics,
but none of that matters. But I'm talking about specifically.

(01:37:09):
Like I walked into a business okay and said a
bunch of things at this business that I had business with, right,
and everybody was looking at me like strangely, but they
didn't They didn't go, what the fuck are you talking about?

(01:37:31):
They didn't do that right, They just wrote it out.
I drove away, going, Okay, I got that taken care of. Meanwhile,
I had done it the day before. You know what
I'm saying, And I repeat, it was like groundhog Day?
Now what is going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I mean, that's over my pay grade, but it sounds
like you had missing time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Yeah, yeah, it scared me. It scared me. I came
home after I figured it out, and this is dude,
this is five in the afternoon, now, rightow. I came
home after dude, doing my day, doing my thing, got
all this stuff, and when I found out that I

(01:38:15):
was on the wrong day. I stood in front of
my kitchen window, put my hands on the counter, and went, man,
this cannot happen again. And I was really freaking myself out.
I freaked myself out, and it hasn't happened since then.
And you know what I do. I checked the date.

(01:38:37):
I checked the date every morning when I get up.
Oh man, I do I do? I make sure that
I'm on the right page.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
I feel that you were traumatized. Yeah, I completely understand
what you're saying. I had a similar experience, but not
quite the same. I was locked out of my house
one time by an entity. Is where does that sound?
My friends come into my house growing up, would always
be terrified to walk out to the car alone because

(01:39:06):
our story, you know, and the beings and all that stuff.
So I'd walked him out to the car sometimes if
they're leaving for the evening. And I left the door
cracked and I walked my friend out to his car.
I see this entity run by really fast. It was
this shiny, white little being. And I didn't say anythings.
They didn't want to freak him out, and I was
kind of used to it at this point. He later
told me he saw it too, but he got in

(01:39:28):
his car hes drove off. I start to walk back
to the house and all the lights that I had
left on for myself flipped off one by one. It's
dark outside, right, So it's about one in the morning.
I go up to the front door. It's locked. I
start ringing the doorbell. My mom's freaking out. There was

(01:39:48):
a baby's sleep in the house. Now it's like crying,
and everybody else in the house was a sleeper indisposed.
Nobody shut that door on me, and she was so
spooked when I explained to her how that all went
down or I left the door open and everything right,
It was definitely an entity that locked me out. And
then I went into my room and I flipped on
the light and there was this huge surge of power

(01:40:08):
in the filaments inside the light bulb actually made this loud,
poppy noise and the light filled in the blue room
and that basically fried the light bulb. So I was like, whoa,
there's something here, There's a presence here. So now, like
ten years later, I was so traumatized by like you
you check the data every morning. Now I have digital
locks on my house, so I don't need a key
for entry or exit. So I understand what you're saying.

(01:40:32):
You know, you were traumatized.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
It messed with me so bad, it really really did
it so much.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
I I.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
How do I say this? You get it? But I
have had proof many many, many times that this reality
that we are in is just one version of things.
That's it. That's it. There's much more going on out

(01:41:09):
there that we completely don't understand. And when you are
exposed to it, like, okay, so this experience that I
just explained to you, if somebody else went through that
that wasn't interested in the phenomenon or anything else, they
go to the doctor and they're like, man, I think
I'm losing my memory, right, I need medicine. There's something

(01:41:31):
going I've got Parkinson's whatever it is, right, They're freaking yeah.
And I don't believe that that is the For me.
I think it's just confirmation of there is there is
something here that we do not understand.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
I think you're onto something very important. And I'll just
kind of circle it back to Robert Monroe, because you
had asked about the Monroe's two right right in nineteen
fifty eight, when he started spontaneously going out of body.
That's that's how it all began. It just started happening.
And then at first he thought he was dying. He
thought he was going crazy. He thought he was having

(01:42:10):
a tumor stroke. Everything you can imagine. He popped out
of body, right, and he like bumps into the chandelier,
not knowing what it is, and he's like, what the
He sees this the chandelier, and then he turns and
he looks back and he sees there's somebody in bed
with his wife. And then he says, oh, that's me.
He gets back in his body. And then over time
and he was he was very wealthy by this point too.

(01:42:32):
He was successful. I think it was like an NBC
radio exec. So we have millions of dollars at his
disposal to just throw it, you know, fun and play
and science. He went to like every doctor you can imagine,
got his brain check, got his heart check, got everything checked.
He thought he was going schizophrenic even and they're all like, no,
you're fine, You're totally fine. And then a psychiatrist's friend said, look,

(01:42:55):
maybe you should just allow whatever is happening to happen
and explore this and it might be real. And after
you know, days or weeks or months of like clinching
his fists and resisting the sensation, he finally just kind
of let go and began to allow the vibratory sensations
to kick in, and then he started going out a
body and the rest is history. So you're right, I mean,
he thought he was going insane.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
That's that's why I think it's it's so important for
everybody if they can to just remove the blinders a
little bit and just ponder about what is possible. Don't think,
don't close yourself in that you understand everything, because that's

(01:43:43):
not that's simply not going to work. You don't understand everything.
Nobody does. And we talked about bubbles earlier. People build
fences around their house, but they also build fences around
themselves personally, thinking that they're blocking the world out right.

(01:44:06):
That's no, you're closing yourself in. It's the exact opposite
of that, and that's you know what I mean. So
just keep that keep that childlike you know, world of
discovery alive, a little bit of it, don't don't close
it off, and then that's how we grow as a

(01:44:28):
as a human race.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Yeah, I agree, I totally agree. I think people are Okay,
I want to say this, and this is something I
wanted to say earlier. But as it goes with fun conversation,
you have a thought, you set up how to get there,
and then you end up, you know, just drifting away.
But something I wanted to say earlier when you were
talking about that the whole bubble thing, and you were
talking about the skateboard thing, I found that pretty funny.

(01:44:55):
I think a big problem that people have in the
world is like, for example, if you know Talis Taoism,
something that I have adopted from their view about let's
say God, when you name it, you have pushed it away.
When the taal, which is basically their way of saying

(01:45:16):
consciousness or the spirit or God or whatever you want
to call it, you can't label it because then you
put it in a box. You can't try to, you know,
thoroughly define it because it is without border, it's without boundary,
It's infinite, nameless, limitless. Kind of reverse engineer that a
little bit. I think people are so obsessed with labeling

(01:45:39):
themselves and being attached to ideas about themselves because of
the ego. That's why you have people with such radical
political views and divisive you know, philosophies and things like that,
because they're so attached to this identity that it causes
sickness and delusion in their head. I think that people
need to act. See, it's kind of like the Buddhists

(01:46:02):
have pretty well figured out with this stuff. Reject those attachments,
try to reject attachments to things. And I think most importantly,
everyone should strive to practice radical non judgment, which inherently
means not being attached to certain you know things, at
least if they're harmful.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
I don't know why we screwed all that up. I
don't know. Uh, yeah, I don't know. It is just
so funny how the fabric of the United States not
being political, But it was that we brought in different

(01:46:44):
thinkers and a different way of life and the freedom
of thought and religion and everything else, and that you
could uh enjoy what makes you happy. Yeah right, But
we completely got well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Know what was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
You know what was cool, Uh, somebody with purple hair
living down the street. Somebody your neighbor across the way
was a goober computer nerd. You know, your neighbor next
door was a military veteran. Uh, you work for an
insurance company. You know, it's a different, different, but collectively,

(01:47:27):
you know, we're just different. And we got now all
of a sudden, it's about judging and if people aren't
like you, then they are wrong. It's like wait the
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, that's not what
life is about. And that's not what this country was
built on and based on. And we've lost sight of that.

(01:47:47):
Man and the rest of the world was was gripping
on that too as well, it was, and we've just
lost sight of it. I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Well, you know, they medicate us. They poison our food,
they poison our water, they poison our air, they poison
our minds, they poison our souls, they poison our education.
This small, shadowy oligarchy that worships Satan by the way,
they do a lot of bad to humanity. And I

(01:48:19):
think that there's a lot of people out there that
haven't had an honest chance to form their own opinion
out of the world or about the world, because they're
like Frankenstein with all these harmful vibrations just splatching onto
them from the food they eat, you know, the water
they drink all that stuff, taking way too many medications.
It's like, it's like hell, It's like the system is
designed to break you and make you sick and sad

(01:48:42):
and suffering and in fear, and like the only way
to break free from that is to do your own
free will, to like strive to be better, to try
to you know, eat clean, be spiritual, be humble, be kind,
be positive, be christ like. Otherwise you're going to be
broken by the system.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
And isn't that weird how that we are taught what
the dream is. You know, the dream is to get
into the system, pay your taxes, get a mortgage, you know,
get a job, get your medical insurance, get into the program,
and start turning this wheel. And that is the dream.

(01:49:23):
And then you get to the age of sixty five
and your retirement plan kicks in and you will have
achieved eternal happiness. That is that is the dogma. That's
you know, that's what we're taught.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Yeah, with creaky knees and hips.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Yeah yeah, because you get you get to the age
of sixty five and you look around and go, man, okay,
my life I invested my life in the dream. I
don't feel happiness is this what the dream was supposed
to be. Man, you know, and you can't do it over.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Yeah, No, you're right. I you know, it makes me
smile because I know that there's going to be a
day where everybody's going to realize how goofy they were
for you know, some of the things that they were believing,
which quite frankly relies and I cannot wait for the
day when it comes out the truth about everything reality.

(01:50:21):
There's there's going to be a singularity where our technology
gets so great, our computational power gets so insanely mind blowing,
the AI gets so intelligent, and our actual technology, you know,
interdimensional travel, all this stuff. It's going to rapidly happen
so fast that there's going to be a singularity where
we just kind of like hit this point where we
understand everything. And I think we're going to all implicitly

(01:50:42):
realize that there was a very small, I say very
small as in like maybe one percent of the world,
very evil group that was holding back humanity. And you know,
you don't have to literally believe in Satan because quite frankly,
I don't. I think it's a metaphor for some evil
adversarial force, right, that is real. By the way, there
is an evil average zero force, and the small group

(01:51:04):
of power is in line with that. When we get
rid of that, we're gonna thrive. It's gonna be like
the Golden Age all over again. It's gonna be like,
you know, Utopia or something. Did you and I think
that's where we're headed.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Did you see I love that? I love that. Did
you see the movie AI Steven Spielberg? Okay, Artificial Intelligence
AI Stanley Kubrick screenplay A movie that was started Kubrick died,
Steven Spielberg finished it. It's a great movie, all right,

(01:51:39):
but go and watch it. In fact, watch it tonight.
It's wonderful. It'll choke you up at points. But anyway,
the ending of the movie, I don't want to, man,
you haven't seen it spoiler or alert, but you can
go ahead and tell me. This is what happens at
the of the movie. It's now thousands of years in

(01:52:03):
the future. Earth is now frozen. Okay, so we go
from now you know this, but now it's and et
is doing an archaeological dig under the ice in New
York City. Okay, Earth is there? There is no life

(01:52:24):
on Earth anymore. But ET is trying to figure out
what humans were like. So they're doing this archaeological dig
and you know what they find. They're under the ice
a mile down and they find a robot, an android
artificial intelligence hence the name of the movie, right, And

(01:52:47):
they find this boy robot representation AI, and they realize
that he's still alive his atomic energies, and so they
want to know about man, all right, and this is
their key to doing that. But that's not the point,

(01:53:08):
and I'll say the ending of the movie, but it's
who ET is that I thought was really interesting. E
T had evolved into this light being intelligent thing, right,

(01:53:30):
so it has form, but what it has is this kindness, right,
this thing and that is absolutely they have gone past technology,
they have evolved past this. They have some and what

(01:53:50):
have they evolved into? Kindness? A spiritual light being. So
watch the movie. That's not a giveaway or a ruining
of the movie. No, it's that one little moment where
you get to see how Spielberg is representing ET. It's amazing,
it's very cool.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
You ever notice that when you meet people, and I
don't mean everybody that calls himself a guru, but the
real deal, the real spiritual masters. You know, I'm sure
through your life you've met a lot of really cool people.
They always seem to have these big smiles, you know,
and these these big, big hearts, and they wear it

(01:54:33):
on their sleeve. And like you look at my dad,
he always has this big smile and this big just
I don't give up f what anybody thinks about me.
I'm gonna be who I am. Or people like you know,
sad Guru or people like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
They're always so kind and so humble and so friendly
because I think as you see people waking up more
and more and more, you realize that the only true
spiritual path is kindness and it is love not all.
Let me charge my crystal, because you know, my astrology
said today is a day to be a good witch,
kind of fake spirituality. I'm not saying I love crystals.

(01:55:12):
In fact, I've got a crystal bigfoot right here.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
I've got I've got them sitting in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
See, I love crystals. I'm not knocking crystals. I love astrology, Yep.
I'm just saying there's this kind of nefarious, fake spirituality
that exists where people are like, you know, it's kind
of like this this existence, we'll call it the left
hand path, where they go down these really kind of
dark routes with spirituality and think just because they're aware

(01:55:40):
of it that you know that and they can do
whatever practice they want, and they can they can be
nasty and violent, hedonistic, but still be spiritual. Give me
a break, you know. It's the only true path I
think for the evolution of the soul is kindness, it's humility,
It's all the ideals that are left behind and immortalized

(01:56:04):
through the ages by Christ and Buddha. Buddha was the
popular one of the East. Christ is the popular one
of the West. I'm not saying worship with these people.
I'm not saying go to church and pay tides because
you like these people. I'm just saying, be like them.
That's how you awaken.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
That's what I'm talking about right there. Hey, Ryan, when
does when do you put out episodes of bloodsoe said?

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
So every Wednesday at three am the Witching hour, which
I just made the joke about that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
And where can everybody find your stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Just bloods said? So is our Instagram, our Twitter, our website,
and we're on Spotify and YouTube. It's all blood So
said so or Bloods said so podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Thank you so much, my friend. I'll be seeing you soon,
you know that. Thank you for everything. Give my best
to your family and definitely tell your mom. I said, Yo,
all right, okay, I'll talk to you. Ryan, have a
good night, enjoy the rest of your evening.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
You too, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
Thank you the best, Ryan Bledsoe. Everybody, what a perfect
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