FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Tony Rathman

Tonight, paranormal investigator and tech guru, Tony Rathman joins us to discuss his Staticom 3.0... his tech that communicates with the other side... IN REAL TIME.

Episode Transcript

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I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would
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Speaker 6 (01:00):
This is Day to Black. It's your host, Jimmy Church
on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
All right, good evening, How you doing. How you doing today? Well,
it's fade to Black. First off, Today's Tuesday, September twenty third,
twenty twenty five. I'm your host, Jimmy Church. Let's do
this man. Yeah, yeah, what an amazing week. I'm fade
to block. It's a short week this week. Last night

(01:32):
Travis Walton was here with Jennifer Stein an extraordinary conversation
last night. And tonight we've got Tony Rathman back with
us and we're going to talk about his new thing.
It's called Staticcom. Okay, so we're gonna be talking about
that tonight. Statacom revealed, and then tomorrow night Wednesday, Dean

(01:55):
Bertram joins us. We're going to be talking about a
subject that I know well, but I don't know if
we've ever covered it on the show, and that is
the Shaver Mystery. Yeah, and if you're not hip to it,
you want to dial in tomorrow night. It's a part
of you know, when you jump into this subject, let's

(02:21):
just go UFOs. But that covers so many different things, right,
ancient history and stuff, and that's what the Shaver Mystery
is part of that is that's UFO one on one.
And when you go through this I'm just going to
say this very briefly, when you go through this thing

(02:41):
and you're starting research and you're doing stuff, and you're
looking and you're clicking through videos, and you're collecting books,
and you're going backwards and looking at different historical cases,
and then you will stumble upon the Shaver Mystery. And
I talk about long John Neble a lot on this show.

(03:02):
Long John Neble is one of the greatest radio hosts
in the history of radio, and throughout the fifties and sixties,
the Shaver Mystery he covered. Think about how many shows
I have done, right, Okay, just imagine if I did
the Shaver Mystery one night a week, right that I

(03:24):
always came back to the That's what the Shaver mystery
was to this community for decades. So that's what we're
going to do Tomorrow night with Dean. Thursday night we
are off air. I am on the road, and Monday
we are off air two all right, all right, I've

(03:45):
got a road trip in front of me and I've
got the front and back to take care of. So
Thursday night and Monday night we are off air. All right, kids,
You got that? You got that. In the schedule. I
have six events coming up in twenty twenty six I
got notifications yesterday and today about two additional things that

(04:07):
may show up in the schedule. I'm seeing if I
can juggle things and make things happen. I don't like
saying no to anybody. Well I'll say no. What I
mean is if I want to do the conference, I'll
try to make things happen. All right. But coming up
in February is the Conscious Life Texpo February twentieth through

(04:29):
the twenty third at the lax Hilton. After that is
the Contact Modalities Expo May first through the third, twenty
twenty sixth in delav In, Wisconsin. Right After that is
contacting the Desert May twenty eight through June first, twenty
twenty six, and then I come back from that and
head south to Peru for the Inca Celebration of the
Sun with Brian Forrester. That is June twenty third through

(04:51):
July first. Come back from that, I head over to
the UK to Scotland for the Monty Python Tour of
Scotland August first through the ninth. Come back from that,
I go back to Peru, this time to Easter Island,
and that is November of twenty twenty six. So I've
got a full, Yeah, I've got a full twenty twenty

(05:14):
six coming up. Come and hang out with us. All
of the links for everything that I'm doing are in
the description box, blow over, in our website and throughout
social media. Okay, all right, all right? Where am I
I had something else I was going to share doesn't
matter at this point because tonight we have Tony Rathman
back with us. It's one of my favorite investigators. He

(05:36):
and his wife Sharie are absolutely amazing. And when it
comes to Tony's research and how he approaches an investigation,
he builds stuff. The first time that I met Tony
in person, I walk up to his pit, this area

(05:58):
of gear imagine, imagine like this studio, but everything in
it is for paranormal investigations. I just yeah, I mean,
I couldn't believe. What's that? What's this?

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Do?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
What's that? What's that? Where'd you get? I built it?
You built all this stuff? My goodness, great, not all
of it, not all of it, but he can lay
claim to most of it. And it's incredible, and we
have put it to use. I have seen it in use.
And he's just a man on a mission. And so

(06:38):
when he builds a system like this he tested. We're
going to go through all of that tonight with you
on the air. But it's just gear, right. There's no
artificial intelligence, there's no Internet involved. It is just communication
with another dimension. I can't explain it any other way.

(06:59):
Tony connects blain it better. He is a paranormal researcher.
He's an investigator. He's a technology innovator. I've just talked
about all of that. He does push the boundaries in
this genre. With over a decade and a half of
field experience, he has dedicated his work to designing advanced
tools that bridge the gap between science and the unexplained.

(07:19):
I would like to welcome back to Fade to Black
my good friend Tony Rathman. He's right there, Tony. How
you doing, man, I'm.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Doing great, Jimmy. Pleasure to be back and looking forward
to discussing what staticicom is capable of.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, man, it's gonna be great. It's always great, and
it's it's so good to only see you, man, but
to hear your voice. I miss you. I miss you
and I miss too, I miss your trouble making a
partner in life. Uh can we can we just hit
the ground running absolutely normally normally with you. I just

(07:56):
we're friends. I just want to talk and get caught
up and which you're you know. But uh, let's let's
just get straight to it, because we have a lot
to cover tonight, Tony, and sure Tony has sent me
a bunch of clips everybody, and they are video clips.
When I play the first clip, I want the moderators

(08:19):
and everybody in the chat to pop in and let
me know that you can hear the audio, okay, because
I've got things set up a certain way here tonight,
but there's only one way to test it. One way
to find out. That's to go live, man, go live
and see what happens. So just let me know when
we get to that point and that audio is happening. Okay,

(08:39):
so let's go. Let's go. Do you there's a reason
why I'm asking this, although we've talked about why I'm
asking this before. Do you investigate your own house?

Speaker 6 (08:57):
We will. We've been running static hom in our own
house for the last almost four years now, so we
do testing of audio stuff. Audio stuff usually doesn't bring
any residual energy into the home, and we can get
into that when we get into the system and why

(09:17):
we believe that to be true. Have we had things
in our own home that we've brought from investigation, Yeah,
we have, and we had to get additional help from
friends and people that had experience knowledge to get it removed.
But we have not had that problem with audio.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Or voices now in doing so, and I'm you know,
you're testing, you're building, you know, and so you're going
to test it. What have you What have you experienced
in your home? Is your house haunted? Do you care
our past?

Speaker 6 (09:56):
When we recently moved about a year and three months ago,
but are one prior to that having been there for
twelve years, we had stuff going on all the time.
When the kids were young, we had them screaming at
two in the morning, going, something's in my room. I
heard it say something and they weren't wrong. Through the

(10:18):
communication that we've built, we didn't have what we're going
to talk about tonight back then. Wish I did, but
we were still able to make contact understand what they
were doing there. They actually apologized, didn't mean the scare
of the kids, and it didn't happen again.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's the problem, isn't it. You're bringing your work home
with you. I mean, so let's stay here for a
second if we can't, Tony, was the house haunted or
are you and Shuri bringing home baggage that wasn't yours?

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Oh, no doubt we were bringing it. It had to
be that way we were coming from and we were
going out twice a week to different locations, or when
we were going to specific haunted locations, stuff can follow
you home. I mean, there's no doubt about it. We've
had that happen. I remember one night it was probably

(11:14):
three in the morning. We had gotten back about two,
and of course Iree and I always like to review evidence.
So we're sitting on the bed and I'm going through
video and she's going through EVP, and something white floats
across the end of the bed and I wish I
had it on video, but you both see our heads
look up and then we're both looking at the sides

(11:34):
of the bed thinking, Okay, was that the dog? No,
it was way too tall to be the dog.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
And then we just looked at each other and went
all right, something follow this again.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What you know? What can you do? What can you do?
I've told the story a lot on the air, and
for those that have never met Tony before, now Tony
is here with us, I've told the story to so
many asked about this investigation we had done on the

(12:07):
Queen Mary right, Queen Mary. Queen Mary yep, Queen Mary,
and Tony and I were sitting down. I'm not going
to tell the whole story, but it's great that Tony
is here because I can actually ask Tony about it.
So we were filming, We're doing a TV show, and

(12:27):
we're down there and to my right, to Tony's left,
Tony is facing me. We're sitting Tony's facing me. So
to Tony's left, to my right is the camera crew.
So there's like three cameras and a sound guy, maybe
a director or a producer, and there's like five of
them in a row against the wall facing us, and

(12:50):
I had the sound guy right next to me with
a boom. Okay, So anyway, we have this moment. Tony's
got a piece of gear there we're messing with, and
it's sitting on the table, and we had some tesla
things lighting, you know, we had some stuff going out
in this room. And I think Susan Slaughter was in
there with us too as well. She might have been hosting, right,
So anyway, uh, and that's when and we had like

(13:15):
a five or ten second silence that happened. And so
during this silence, to my right, I hear a hum hmmm,
just like that, and I look up at the sound
guy and then I turn around and I looked at

(13:38):
you and your eyes this is Tony right. Shari was
like right, okay, So yeah, next to you was Shari,
your wife. And so so you heard it. We well,
we all heard it. And well and I asked the
sound guy, go was that you? And he goes, what, No,

(14:01):
that wasn't you. What did you what did you hear?
It was? It was pretty trippy to have something disembodied
so loud, and but you spun around and looked behind you.
I looked up, but you kind of went over your
shoulder like that. What what did you hear? What was
going through your mind?

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I heard the same thing you did. I heard somebody
go hmm. Almost sounded female if I remember correctly, and
I could not tell where it came from. In fact,
if I remember correctly, you were saying, I think it
came from over here, and I was like, no, I
think it came from behind me. But that's the thing
about what's called direct voice phenomena is that locating it

(14:45):
is absolutely near impossible. Direct voice phenomenon is where you
can hear it with your own physical ears, not through
a recorder, not through other technology. This was something we
all heard with our own ears, and that doesn't happen
very often. That's a rare occurrence. But we all heard it,

(15:06):
we all reacted to it, and we all started looking
for it, which was a great experience to have on
the Queen Mary. I think that was back in twenty twenty,
in the middle of COVID because it was shut down. Yeah,
there was nobody else on the boat but the film
crew in us.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
But yeah, that was h There was nobody else in
Long Beach, right, They have like a five thousand car
parking lot and it was just us. And I've been
down there a lot. I've never seen that parking lot
empty like that. The cruise lines are out of there
too as well. Those parking lots are all full, and

(15:41):
we were the only Yeah, you're right. It was in
the middle of COVID. We had to take all the
COVID test to even and the crew everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they really that was really interesting. But we had the
whole boat to ourselves. So my reaction to it because
I you know, I've done a lot of paranormal investigations,

(16:04):
but this was one of the first ones I had done.
We have multiple crews, multiple camera crews in different parts
of the ship. We had a huge control room that
was set up upstairs, and it was it was great
to have that kind of production, right, that that kind
of thing, and it was it was huge and fun

(16:26):
for me just to just to do that with all
my friends, you know, and you know, so anyway, and
that was the other cool part was that the directors
and the producers were all friends of ours, right, so
it was like this big fan it was. It was
amazing anyways, great to cap it all off. For me personally,

(16:48):
to have that happen, I couldn't explain it. I it was.
It was. I could tell it was a very unique thing.
That night. I'll say this before we move on, because
I want to focus on our homes here and then
we'll get to static. Come that night, we were walking

(17:08):
to our cars. It was like one in the morning,
two in the morning. We had wrapped. It was a
long day. And walk into my car. You're behind me, right,
and big empty parking lot. It's dark. But I just
threw up my arms and went, yeah, I heard a
voice and I was so happy about that. And you
came up and you go, man, I was crazy, and

(17:29):
I was like, that was nuts. And then you let
me know then how unique that experience was. And I'm
just so honored to go through that because now I
can talk about it with other people from from that viewpoint. Right,
I was actually there. I heard it, and I can't
explain it.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yeah, And like you know, I stated before, and that's
not a common occurrence, and for that to happen for
you to get to experience at firsthand like that. I
think that's maybe. I think I've maybe heard similar maybe
three four times at the most in fifteen and a
half years of doing this direct voice phenomenon is rare.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's crazy, which you know equally is strange and impressive
are EVPs because it's the opposite. You don't hear it,
you catch it right and so and I've had I've
had a few of those too, where it's just like wow, okay,
you see it on TV, but when you really experience it.

(18:37):
I think the first time it goes down, when you
experience of your oh oh, it's it's like, wow, this
shit is real. Oh my god, I thought, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
That never goes away.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, No, I still I talk about it all the time.
I think about it. It was just such a fun experience.
So back to our how is the reason why I ask,
is with all of these paranormal shows out there, with
all these paranormal teams and gear, you know, Amazon Prime

(19:12):
is right there to go and get your all your
ghost out of gear, that the temptation is there right
to buy this gear and ghost hunt and buy the
gear and let's let's let's test it in our house.
Is that a good idea for rookies? No?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
I mean there are dangers involved, and that is the
one thing that everybody needs to be aware of. That.
If you're watching some YouTube channel or some paranormal show
and you're like, Okay, I'm gonna try this, that's fine,
go right ahead and try, but know that there are
dangers no matter how small you know. I mean, things

(19:50):
like possession don't happen on a on a weekly basis,
on a show every time, but they do, in fact happen.
So you have to be aware of that. You have
to be protecting yourself in whatever ways that to you
is going to be protection, whether that's religious, whether that's charms,

(20:11):
whether that's you know, saging, whatever the case may be.
What you believe is going to work is going to
work for you. But you can't let that slide. That
is super important. If you let that guard down, you're
asking for troup.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Do you get scared?

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Everybody gets scared, no doubt about it. I mean there
are times I have jumped, I have screamed when certain
things have occurred that I wasn't expecting that surprise shock.
No one can say they know how they're going to
react until it happens.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Were you with this at the end of the night
when we were upstairs in the bar when the door slammed, Yes, okay,
now that's another exact That was crazy town. And and
I should have been scared. And I turned around and
and I grabbed the camera crew and I walked straight back,

(21:11):
uh into the darkness where the door slam happened. And
that that's kind of who I am, you know what
I mean. I looked back at that and I was like,
what are you? Why did you do?

Speaker 6 (21:26):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You're walking into the unknown?

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Man?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
What do you do? But curiosity? Right? That door slammed? Right,
it was a bathroom door. What a bathroom door? I
didn't even know those bathrooms were back there. I did
until the door slam because where we were taping up
in front by the bar, and there was like a
piano or something. It was a light, but the back

(21:51):
part of this nightclub was dark.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
It was dark.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
We were taping up from We had the camera crew
there the light. We were on the other side, so
I never knew what was back there. It was just
it was dark and that door slam. I can't believe it, man.
And we all jumped and looked and I was like ah,
and I walked straight into the hornet's nest.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
And yeah, you were the first one to head. I
was right behind you. I'm like, let's find.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Out what this was.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
And there was nothing there, man, there was nothing there.
The door had no way of moving on it all was.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It was spring loaded. Yeah, it wouldn't slam. It slammed
when we were sitting there. But we were back there swinging,
remember that, trying to slam it, and they wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
They right, we were trying and it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
It wouldn't. It was like spring loaded. It stopped because wow,
that was yeah, man. See, yeah, you attract this stuff
my house. Okay, every time I have a paranormal show
and talk about ghosts, and when I say every time, dude,
I'm knocking on wood right now, Okay, it's gonna happen tonight.
Something's going to happen. And I'll let you know tomorrow.

(23:03):
But something always happens. And a few weeks ago, maybe
about a month ago, this is recent. Now check this out.
Talk about disembodied. Right, this is a I wrap the
show and I take off my headphones, and this studio
was soundproofed, right, So all of the walls, that black

(23:26):
wall is like two inches thick of sound deadening and
it's on all the walls, floors, ceiling, right, So when
you're in here, and just like you could, it's like
the cone of silence. You can hear your heartbeat, you
know what I mean. It's it's right quiet. So the

(23:48):
show ends, Tony, and in front of me, although you
can't see this, this is a giant here. It'd be
better if I do it. This is a giant oly
big curved monitor. Right. It's like four or five feet
wide two and a two feet tall, big curved monitor.

(24:09):
It blocks what is behind it, which is another wall
of guitars. Okay, that's it. That's all that's back there, well,
and cameras and lights. Right, Okay, so the show raps
and everything is shut down. I take off my headphones right,
put them on my headphone stand, and I lean back

(24:32):
in the chair just like this, and at that moment,
from behind this monitor, right right behind the monitor, a
creek happens, like a sound effect from a movie, like
a door, like a rocking chair. Right, it went, and

(24:53):
it was loud loud, and I looked and it's right
behind my monitor and there's nothing there but wall and guitars.
And I get up and I walk around, and so
all the guitars are so I'm doing this with the guitars.
Let me see if I can. Let me show you.
I'm wiggling the guitars like this, right, did that creak?

(25:17):
Did this one? Creak?

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
And and then I came back. I sat in the two.
There's nothing, nothing that could create it. But this is
my point. I went, hmm, all right, that's interaction, and
you have to deal with it like that. You can't
freak out. You know, in my opinion, if you freak out,

(25:41):
whatever's doing this for you, it's quite possibly what they want.
You know, they're trying to get something out of.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
You, right absolutely, And you know, the thing about perceiving
something is that, well, a, you have to be conscious
to perceive it. That's a prerequisite. But you did perceive it,
which means it is no more real. No matter what
it was, whether it was something paranormal or whether it

(26:09):
was something explainable, it happened. You couldn't explain what it was.
And that experience is every bit is real is every
other part of your life.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
And it sure is reel, you know, And I gotta
say I kind of liked it. It's addictive, it's pretty fun,
you know, what is it? It's supernatural, right, It's the perfect
definition of paranormal, right, It's all of those things. And

(26:47):
I kind of dug it. I kind of dug it,
and I just moved on to the next thing. I
didn't lose sleep over it or freak out, but man,
it's really cool when it happens.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Isn't It's it's amazing. And that's that I didn't believe,
you know, fifteen and a half years ago, I didn't
believe any of this. Shari's the one who got me involved,
and it all began from the very first investigation we
ever did, and she she wanted to go ghost hunting
on Valentine's Day back in twenty ten, and I was like,

(27:23):
you know, I don't want to do this, but you know,
if I didn't take her, she'd be mad at me
until next Valentine's Day. So I took her. But it
was when she got to stuff home and started reviewing it,
and these voices that were literally answering our questions. When
we were the only people up. That's what got me
interested in this, and I've never been able to put
it down since. And really the only change, I mean,

(27:48):
even five or six years ago when you and I
met Jimmy on the Queen Mary, we were ghost hunters,
you know, we were dedicated in the pursuit of voice.
We had one goal in mind, and that was to
get the clearest capture of a spirit voice that we

(28:09):
could get and to prove to people that a they
can speak, that we recorded it. And that's where this
all began. But that's not where it stopped.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
No, no, no, they I was telling everybody about the
pit you know, full of gear and I, uh uh
no it. It obviously didn't stop there, my friend, it has.
But but your pursuit of this and somebody just popped up,

(28:45):
are we going to hear some statacom? Oh, we've got
We've got some statacom for you tonight and we will
get to it. What do you think.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Is caught?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay? When it when it comes to right EVP electronic
voice phenomena, that is a that's a broad thing, but
I would suppose the easiest way to explain that is
to capture something that is not audible to the human ear,

(29:17):
but you capture it so you can hear it how
it's captured. It could be recorded, it could be played
back in real time, whatever it is. But that is
that's been your focus, hasn't.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
It It has. EVP is where we started. And EVP,
like you were saying, is what's called record and review.
You start the equipment, you ask all your questions with
some pauses in between, and then you have to review it.
So it's one way communication really because by the time
you've identified the answer by uploading it to your computer,

(29:53):
de noising it, enhancing it, making it louder, whatever you
have to do to it to hear possible what's being said,
the communication is gone because you're no longer in the
location that you were in, which is then why we
moved to ITC, which was supposedly more of a two
way communication, and that was attractive because you would hopefully

(30:17):
hear an answer while or directly after asking the question,
which would allow for the communication to continue rather than
being at home away from where you were investigating. You're
still there. So that's kind of the progression of how
we went from EVP to ITC, and then how ITC

(30:38):
today has become staticcom. I mean it's still ITC. ITC
is instrumental transcommunication, but STATICOM is completely different from other
methods that have been used, from EVP to spirit boxes,
and we can get into I can explain how it
differs when we get to that point.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure and spear boxes, everything
that has been built there are you know, I've seen
friends of mine that are very creative in the audio world,
whether it's guitars or studios or recording that are into

(31:19):
this subject. Well, we have this is what we do.
This studio of mine here is a radio studio, it's
a television studio, it's a recording studio, it's a music studio.
It's an audio and video studio that we can So
when you get into this process of perfecting audio, well,

(31:45):
and you have an interest in the paranormal, dude, we
got everything at our disposal, right, and I've got friends
that have built some pretty creative stuff that just involves cables,
guitar pedals, audio processors, you know, anything that can capture audio.
There's so many different ways to record that audio at

(32:07):
the end of the chain these days, and there's all
kinds of ways to play it back and hook it
up to a speaker and do it in real time.
And that's exactly what you have done. I have I
have a friend. We got to share this and then
we're gonna move straight onto statacom. My best friend. His
name is Rob, Rob Kazaris, and Rob and I grew

(32:32):
up together at the right age and did all those
things in the eighties that we should have been arrested for,
but we somehow evaded the law. I remember those days,
and we did it. We did it correctly. We had
a good time. Any anyway, he was my guitar tech.
He was my best friend. He was my neighbor. His

(32:54):
parents fed me and clothed me. You know, you know
what I mean. We just great friends. But I haven't
seen him in probably, I don't know, eight years, ten years.
He lives in Florida now and he's always touring. He's
a tour manager of rock bands, right so, but he's
out here in California a couple of weeks ago, and

(33:15):
this is what he does. He comes over to my house.
I haven't seen Robin eight years. I want to go,
how's your sister, how's your mom, how's your life? What's
going on?

Speaker 6 (33:26):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
He says to me right here in my living room. Man.
He sits down and I'm like, so, how's your mom doing?
He goes, hey, man, so check this out. You ever
heard of the bell Witch? I go, what? I just
did a tour of the bell Witch the stuff and
I went into the cave. What did you do? Because yeah,

(33:51):
man went out there, had my night vision, I had
my Flear camera, your Flair camera. When did this start? Nothing?
I knew nothing. And here's the thing, though, this is
an audio genius, my friend Rob audio video. This is
what he does for a living. He takes all this
gear down there in the bell Witch cave and out

(34:13):
of it. I've never talked to him about this stuff ever.
He goes man, full body apparition. Man in the fle
But we didn't see it with our eyes, but we
could see it walking towards us in the fleer with this.
I said, I've lost my mind. I've lost my mind.
But this is why I bring this up. Everybody is

(34:34):
into this shit these days. Everybody's got an interest in this.
Even friends that you didn't even think had an interest
in this are going on tours right and doing this.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Stuff absolutely, And even even people who say, well no
I don't believe in that, or I don't think that exists.
You know, you get them outside of their public arena,
you know, and give him a couple of beers, and
it's like, well, wait, you know, let me tell you
what happened to me. You know, so the whole Even
even I've heard scientists do that where they're like, no, no,

(35:06):
that's not possible. Brain dyes, body dies, consciousness dies, there
is nothing, there is no life after. But you get
them out to a bar, give them a couple of
beers and talk and they're like, well I did have
this one experience.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I love that too. They're the perfect victim for the universe.
Go ahead, say that stuff publicly. Go ahead, Do you
say that stuff publicly? You're gonna get slapped. You know,
something's going to happen. Your mean aunt Martha is going
to show up in your bedroom. You know. So, but
it's really true. Now, what is it? I want to

(35:41):
get straight into static, Colm, but you just really briefly, Tony,
the static com where we are today three point zero?
That's an evolutionary piece of gear. It is You've been
building stuff for a very long time, so just yeah, yeah,
so what what are the stages to uh landing on

(36:05):
three point zero?

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Sure? Okay, Well, the biggest concerns whether it be from
e VP or it C. We're twofold from akademia scientists
and skeptics. The first thing they said was, I can't
hear it. Your your your brain is trying to pattern
recognize what the what it thinks is speech. It's not

(36:30):
clear enough for anyone to determine that you're probably hearing
warbles and artifacts a sound and your brain's pattern recognizing
it as speech. That was concern one when we when
we advanced stuff forward. The second one was with it C.
They would say, wait, you're telling me you're getting voices

(36:51):
from the other side. But your device for achieving this
is a radio. A radio is made to take RF
signal in the atmosphere and turn it into speech or music.
How are you going to tell me these are voices
from the other side? How can you determine reception from deception?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I fact that very very solid argument.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Absolutely yes, absolutely so when we and we were with
former partners at the time. But they went back and
they did research on the most effective methods of spirit
communication that were ever used, weren't debunked, weren't proven as fakery,
and that method was called DRV or direct Radio voice.

(37:39):
It was developed by a gentleman by the name of
Friedrich Jurgensen. Friedrich Jurgensen passed it on to Constantine Roddie,
and Constantine Roddie taught an Italian gentleman named Marcello Bacci,
and Marcello Bacci used it for about thirty five years.
He was the only person to ben have brought into

(38:00):
a scientific lab to be tested. They pulled his vacuum
tubes out of the radio one by one, trying to
determine when the voices would stop speaking, and they didn't.
The only thing they could remove to get the voices
to stop were Marcello himself not pulling components.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
So what and it c and for clarification, not only
for the audience but for myself included where you have
EVP and then you have the spirit box method of
stuff EVP recording on some type of recorder, and then

(38:41):
the spirit boxes are locking in words that are out
there anyway and correct right right radio whatever it could be,
and capturing those and putting those in a senses also
very interesting and very fun. Are you suggesting that ITC

(39:04):
is the opposite end of all of that is not
related at all, where it is direct communication from another realm.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Well, the term EVP was used for all spirit communication
until about the I think it was the late mid
to late fifties, where a gentleman came up with the
term ITC, introducing the fact of two way communication versus
just one. So EVP is actually a form of ITC.

(39:36):
Spirit boxes are a form of ITC. The difference between
a spirit box which scans radio AMFM up and down,
reverse forward, backwards. You can change the speed on the
spirit box of which it scans. DRV did not scan
a radio. It's sat on a vacant station, meaning white

(39:58):
noise only. That's the main difference between direct radio voice
and a spirit box. And the theory behind a spirit
box was that spirits would take the fragments of audio
scanning at one hundred milliseconds, would take those fragments of

(40:18):
radio and turn it into their own system or their
own sentence. Excuse me. What we realized is through our
research was they don't need those fragments of audio at all.
In fact, over twelve years of building spirit boxes one
progressively better than the next. We could improve the clarity

(40:40):
of the speech, we could not increase the length of
the speech. It was one, two, three words, you know,
a sentence if you were lucky. But it was because
when the radio hit a station it cut their ability
to communicate off. They needed the white noise. It was

(41:04):
only in those fragments between the stations that they would speak,
and their voice would be higher than the radio frequency
or lower. But it was never in the range or
the frequency of the station.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And what would you do you have a classification for STATICOM?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, STATICOM. We removed the radio completely. There is no
radio used. We replaced it with a white noise generator.
It produces every sound from twenty hurts to twenty thousand herts,
every every frequency the human ear can hear, and it's

(41:46):
at a spectral frequency of one, meaning every sound is equal,
one is not louder than the other, which gives you
that white noise hissing sound right, and white noise has
no vocal data whatsoever, No words, no sentences, no syllables,

(42:06):
there's nothing, no vocal data in it. Yet that is
all we need to use to hear them speak. Then
we realized we had to slow down the white noise
in real time. So the other thing a difference with
stantacom is that, like when we were talking about EVP,

(42:29):
I would say, well, you'd make your recording, then you'd
have to bring it home. You'd try to enhance it
the noise it maybe slow it down, maybe you know,
try to get rid of distracting noises. Staticcom we may
do that all in real time. So it slows the

(42:50):
white noise down, it cleans it, it clarifies it, it
and then it cuts the white noise out. So the
way stochastic residence works is because white noise has a
spectral frequency of one, it's it's all.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Level right now, all the same all the same volume.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
Correct. So through a process of stochastic residence. It's a
scientific principle where you can take an undetectable audio signal,
either by the human ear or by a sensor, and
you can raise it using white noise. And this has
been done with EVP and other things. We just adapted
it to STATICOM. So then what happens is when the

(43:35):
spirit speaks, they'll cover a handful of frequencies within the
white noise and it overlaps those frequencies, which then raises
their voice up but does not raise the white noise.
So then we go through and have it automatically cut
the white noise off, leaving only their voice as the result.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, I'm watching the chat. Nobody's trying to understand, and
some are trying to explain white noise. All right, let
me hit you with this. White noise contains everything. Okay,
So when I say everything, every note, right, So, the

(44:21):
lowest humans can hear typically is around twenty hurts. It's
a low base note that's down there. The highest thing
that we can hear is around sixteen K. You get
above that seventeen K, twenty K now at the dogs, right, Okay,
so now you're in the dog range. So white noise

(44:42):
is all of the notes continuously, the lowest to the
highest pitches, all playing at the same time at the
same volume. That's why it sounds the white noise. But
it sounds like static because you're listening to everything all

(45:05):
at once. It's a hard thing to digest, but that's
the only the best way I can explain it. You're
listening to everything that you can possibly hear, all at
the same time, at the same volume. It's no longer music.
It's no longer a boom atop a boom. But even
though that's in there, right, everything else is in there too,

(45:29):
and that's what it sounds like. Okay, so that's white noise.
Let's before the break. Let's get this set up, and
because we've got a lot of things that we're gonna
listen to tonight. You mentioned Bachi earlier. This is the
first track I'm going to play, and I want the chat. Bill,

(45:50):
Jessica and John and everybody else in the chat. Please
let me know immediately if you can hear this this okay,
I want to make sure that you can. Let me
back this up. We're gonna start at the top. Here
we go, Tony Marcello.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
Can you see us, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 9 (46:23):
Marcello. You started this method. It's working. Can you please
try to communicate with us.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, hold the phone,
hold the phone. You mentioned that earlier. You get one word,
two words, three words. You got to clean that up.
You got to go back and catch it. You got
to do this. You gotta do that very rarely did
you get a complete sentence? That's a question in answer session?

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Correct, But that was originally DRV Direct Radio Voice. This
was the very beginning. That was the first answer we
ever got, or one of the first ones, and it
was also the clearest one we ever had in an
entire year of research.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Man, you know what listening to Scherie. That's Cheri's voice,
by the way, and she's probably listening in the background
listening to me. So I'm going to say this out loud.
She's a troublemaker. No, no, I say that, you know,
with the warmest of heart. She's trying to get to
the bottom of this. You know, her interest and her

(47:41):
dedication is so forward. And it sounds like Marcello's answer
was just to get Sharita to stop asking questions. Yeah,
that's that's possible. That's absolutely incredible. Okay, can we keep
this going?

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
You want to do because that that's okay. So you're
saying that this is the first stage of testing, this
is testing round one.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
That we just want that was DRV. The next one
you're gonna play a staticom. Now what's the difference between.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
The I'm gonna I'm gonna play CHIP next.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
Okay, So now the radio is gone. That first one
was still using white noise on a radio. Now the
radio has been removed. We only have a white noise
generator electronically producing twenty hurts to twenty killer herts of
the static sound, so we can't. Radio waves are no
longer available to come in or stray radio waves because

(48:38):
we're not using a radio. The other thing we did
was to clarify the voice on each step we did
to try to do things, make the voice clearer and
get rid of low hanging fruit that science or skeptics
we're going to pick on. So Chip padam is a
good example of.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Now is Shari in the chat? Probably ask ask can
she see you? Shari? Are you in the chat? Say yes,
it's me in the chat? Sari answer, I'll static com
this ship right now. Shari. There she trouble maker. Okay,

(49:22):
we we we got you, trouble maker. Okay, all right,
let's let's play chip. Here we go.

Speaker 10 (49:29):
Can you say Tony did you.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Just say wrath.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
So you know who I am?

Speaker 10 (49:45):
Can I know who you are?

Speaker 6 (49:50):
Yes? Sir?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Who am I speaking to?

Speaker 11 (49:56):
What?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
What?

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Yeah? This what? This has now moved to static I
d r V. We could ask one question and get
one response staticom allowed us to maybe ask two questions
and get a response. I asked him to say Tony.
They said my full name, first and last, my legal name.

(50:25):
Then I said, you know who I am? Can I
know who you are? And they respond, oh.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
My god, oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
That's it gets better.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Oh, I know it does. You know not only just
what I love about you, Tony and Cherie, but this
is what I really love about this subject. You know,
we're getting into our understanding of you know, our two
D right, our two D world, this thing that we're

(50:56):
in and exploring out, you know, and going beyond that.
That's what I enjoy. There's something going on, man, and
we're gonna get it figured out. And it's with efforts
with you. I'm gonna I'm gonna play this again. That
was just too cool.

Speaker 10 (51:13):
Can you say, Tony, did you just say wrath.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Yep? So you know who I am?

Speaker 10 (51:29):
Can I know who you are?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Who am I speaking to?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Dude? That is so messed up, That is so messed up.
That is crazy cool man.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Thank you. Well. You know, like I said, we used
to hunt for a ghost voice that we could show
clearly and prove that they can speak. This is no
longer about ghost spirits. This is about consciousness. This is
about not only you know. I think my friend Rick
McCollums said, when I was out hunting spirits, I found

(52:07):
my own. Well, that's exactly what happened to us. We
found consciousness as it is in the human body, and
what it is outside of the human body, It survives,
it can be communicated with. And that's what Statacom can
not only show, but repetitively prove. This can be turned

(52:31):
on twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,
three hundred and sixty five days a year, and those
voices are there.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Here's the thing. And I've done this. But you're watching
some show, all right, some investigation show, and they're going
through and you've got some lead investigator instigating, investigating and instigating,
trying to get you know something, going asking these questions

(53:00):
and then they the answer will be yes, oh man,
he said, yes, yes, it's one word. It's a yeah. Right,
it's just one thing. And everybody's losing their minds, including me.
It's pretty cool, right, This is not that.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
No, this is what we wanted to evolve. This is
what we wanted to say, Hey, there's a lot more
going on with what people call the supernatural is literally
just natural. We just don't understand again.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Can you and okay, Tony, how portable is staticom?

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
So you can bring it over to my house anytime.
We could sit vodka shots, smoke some heaters. Yep, right,
and just sit here and and and and have a
conversation with the other side.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
You can ask any question you want. The only questions
they will not answer, and we know this from experience,
is what the next set of winning powerball numbers are, right,
or anything future related?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Even we have etiquette, you know, well, we.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Believe there's universal laws that they can't affect the life
you were put here to live, to learn from and
to grow, and they will not mess with that no
matter how many times you ask. Yeah, yeah, but anything
anything in the past that's occurred, absolutely they'll tell you.
Which is why we want to use this for cold
cases because it would be phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely, Look, how many times do we have
to hear that fable that warning, right, you get your
three wishes, don't screw it up. Your last wish is
going to be I need to negate the first two wishes,
right right, And that's it because everybody, not everybody, but

(54:51):
most want you know, things for the money, love, you know,
they want those things for themselves for their own, uh
selfish reasons. And no, but if you, if you, if
you're morally, if your compass is okay, yeah, yeah you
can probably yeah wow, And so can I talk to

(55:16):
like Eddie van Halen.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
We we stay away from that subject anybody with you know,
who was popular, just because there are so many i
TC fakeries out on YouTube of people contacting Michael Jackson
and celebrities. We don't touch it now. Was that Marcello

(55:39):
Baci that actually answered my wife?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Maybe?

Speaker 6 (55:42):
But we don't have spirit caller ID and until somebody
invents one, we have no way of actually verifying who
or even what we're talking to. That's who he identified
itself as. And that's the best we can we can
do at the moment. But can we reach out to
individual spirits, Yes we can. I've spoken to my grandfather

(56:04):
who passed away probably when I was ten or eleven,
and Shari spoke to her mother who passed away from
COVID three and a half years ago with staticicomy.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, that's crazy. You know what, we need to make
a spirit guide yellow pages. Right, Oh, that's that's oh
oh yeah, yeah yeah. They've all way that way.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
If it's the money can be like, well, spam call.
I'm not taking it right right, right, right, right right.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
They've all got a they've all got a screen name.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
It's just the way. Okay, let me let me look
at the clock. Let me see this next one. I
don't know how long it is. We'll run over. Okay,
So this next one is energy of your mind? You ready?

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
How do you hear me speak?

Speaker 6 (57:04):
What? Okay?

Speaker 9 (57:07):
But what?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Hold on? One more time? One more time? Because the
question is a good one and the answer is even better.
Here we go, give me a second. Here, everybody, how
do you hear me speak?

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Wow? Okay, So that that answer really changed our entire perspective.
What I asked them was, how do you hear me speak?
Because I'm human, I'm using my vocal cords, I'm creating
vocal sound waves. If they are not human and don't
have human ears to take that vibration translated into vibrations

(57:55):
with into the brain and interpreted as speech, how do
they hear me speak? Very response was we call it
death meaning to me, you know, that was their explanation
to me of we're no longer living, we've passed over.
But it's energy of the mind, that's the thing. So
when Shari and I started reviewing that answer, going wait

(58:17):
a minute, how many times did we ask EVP questions?
And the answer showed up on the recorder before we
even finished asking it. They're not getting it from my vocals.
They are getting it from me thinking it from my
consciousness to theirs or universal consciousness. It's a direct connection,

(58:39):
and that's how they're getting the question I'm asking, not
my vocals. Then there's also science, which has moved forward,
and the survival theory is that exact process of science
trying to prove maybe that consciousness does survive death. So
that answer not only with timing and relevance to the

(59:01):
question asked, but intelligence answered the question directly.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
It makes you wonder. Then we'll take a break. Do
all spirits hear this and only a few select ones respond?
Who gets to respond to you? Or how is it
focused into one individual spirit? You know, a dead aunt
or uncle or grandfather or something like that. Because it's

(59:32):
the universe it's got to be out there and everywhere.
So if it's of the mind, which it would have
to be, you're right. Sound We create sound with pressure,
and that pressure moves through the atmosphere. The atmosphere collects
that That's why we can hear it, and then it
is turned around and converted and decoded in our ear drums,

(59:58):
through the nervous system into our brain, and then we
hear things as sound. That's the process. But in this no,
that is that in between is gone. And so if
it's of the mind, do all spirits hear it? How
far out into the universe does does it go? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
I don't no great great questions, and let me try
to answer just a couple of them real quick. We
believe that consciousness is the ontological primitive of life. And
if you look at science, you went from material or
materialistic science to quantum physics to what is now being

(01:00:40):
looked at as quantum consciousness or the org theory. Consciousness
is now penetrating even science, and that is so delightful
to see for us. But we believe that whether it's
religion and you call it God, or the primary existence
from science, that consciousness is it. It is the one

(01:01:03):
non deducible principle in life. And if universal consciousness is
one mind and we're all fractual portions of it as
we live in human body, then that does two things.
One life for an individual is completely subjective. I can't
read your mind. You can't read mind. We're subjective to

(01:01:28):
our own life and our own world, but only in
the fact that we're perceiving what happens to us. When
we make a choice and make a decision. There are
people around us that it affects, and it changes or
emotionally impacts. It is through those individual circumstances that meaning

(01:01:50):
is created from events, and that meaning from your subjective
experience is what gives it purpose. And those fractual portions
of consciousness, us being alive gets transferred back to universal
consciousness when we die and allows a single mind to

(01:02:10):
grow and expand itself because a single mind could not
grow itself. It's a single mind, so us as fractual
portions are what give it the information to grow, and
the universal mind would have to grow just like space
grows at the speed of light daily. In order for
that to happen, universal mind would have to do the same.

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So well, put so well put Tony, Let's take our break.
Stay right there. I am your host, Ummi Church. Tonight,
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All right, welcome back Fade to Black. I am your host,
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great paranormal investigators, along with his wife Seri in the world,
builds stuff, his imagination goes and he figures out a
way to get it done. And tonight we're doing the

(01:07:08):
reveal of his latest it's called Staticcom and we're up
to Statacom three point zero. We've got lots of clips
and stuff that we're going through. Tony again, so good,
so good to see my friends, so good, so good.
I agree, Yeah, it has been, it has been. Let
me ask you this, and this is how this is

(01:07:32):
looking inside my mind? Right, this is how I think.
Have you ever wondered what spirits see in their world?
Is it just black? Or is their dimension? Is their
stuff there? What do they see? In their world versus ours.

(01:07:54):
We open our eyes and we see things and we
can talk. What what do they see in their what's
it like?

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Anything they want and believe it or not. That is
where scientific theory theories like analytic idealism, which say that
scientists study materialistic science or three D material right, and
none of that is real. That is all created within

(01:08:26):
consciousness itself. And you say, well, how do you say
it's not real. If I stub my toe on a rock,
I'm going to feel the pain. Well, yeah, because you
have trained yourself and you believe that's all real, so
you never doubt it. So what does the spirit see? Well,
if there energy frequency and vibration, Like Tesla said, if

(01:08:47):
you want to understand the universe, and you said this
back in the fifties, if you want to understand the universe,
think in terms of energy frequency and vibration, Well that's
what white noises, energy frequency and vibration. That is how
we got to be able to hear them. Spirits by
thought can literally sense, feel, experience anything they want, just

(01:09:12):
like is it's now being proposed that we can that
reality is literally influenced by our own thoughts. So somebody saying,
you know, life is so tough. I'm always struggling. Well,
probably because you're always thinking that change your thought and
it'll change your reality.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
That that's that's got to be your next piece of gear.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
You know, it's you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
You know what I mean? Is it possible to then
start to capture video of the other realm?

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
You know audio This is a big you know, this
is a big step what you achieved so far. But
what if we can capture that consciousness you know, record
our dreams, right, you know, and and and get into
that that's your next piece of gear. I'm just I'm
just saying, Tony, there are so many things.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
I mean, even even we believe spirits are have a
non locality, meaning they can answer from anywhere. So what
could that do for new Internet speeds? How is that
getting here so fast and so clear? How is that
transmission occurring? I mean the doors that can open? And
then people say, did you ask how the pyramids were built?

(01:10:31):
Did you ask if Atlantis exists? I could literally spend
the rest of my life asking questions to see what
answers I get. But in order to keep the research going,
to keep static com progressing. You know, I got to
pick a balance of those objectives.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I don't know, Man, Pyramids is a pretty good question.

Speaker 6 (01:10:52):
Period, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
It's it's a pretty good question. One of the things.
We're going to move on to these other clips. Here's
the thing we have, the Pyramids, and I'm going to
say this, the Crucifixion. You know, those are two of
the biggest, if not the biggest questions that we have
right now. Pyramids, we can look at the crucifixion, you know,

(01:11:17):
of Jesus is probably the most talked about, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:11:22):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Napoleon when he was going to Egypt, he stopped by Malta.
He invaded Malta, right, a bunch of old men, the
Knights of Malta. He's got fifty five thousand troops. You
know how long it took to invade Malta. Two days? Right,
they went in, cleaned up Malta, tapped out, surrendered. He

(01:11:47):
goes onto the island. And this is why the Crucifixion
is such a big question to ask with Statacon. He
goes out in the island. He takes everything they've got, right,
That's what Napoleon does. Fills up his ships, he even
got twelve life sized, solid silver statues of the Twelve Disciples,

(01:12:10):
loaded those onto his ship. They're missing, by the way.
You know what he left them. He took everything. You
know what he left. He left a piece of the
True Cross. He was like, yeah, right, right right, And
he didn't have he didn't have any thoughts or wonder

(01:12:32):
about the trees, like you can keep the piece of wood, man,
we're taking it. We're taking everything else. That's why that
question is so important. It's got to get answered. It's yeah,
like Napoleon had his own answer for it. It didn't
matter to him, but to so many others. Uh so, yeah, yeah,
I don't know, man, I don't know. Kind of with

(01:12:55):
your friends on this one, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
I mean they're all to be able to get in
depth answers would be phenomenal. But the biggest question humanity
has asked from day one is what happens when we die?
And that is the answer I'm going after.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
First, what about okay, and then we're going to get
we've got one, two, three, four or five, we've got
six seven clips left? Everybody, lots of squeeze in. What about?
What about spying on your neighbors or your kids. You
know what I mean? You know you know what I mean?
Did can you? I mean, is that kind of stuff possible?

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
Well, not from a future perspective, but if it's something
you want to know that's already happened, Yes, absolutely it is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Have you done it?

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
We've literally done tests, and a lot of them have
happened in the last two weeks. I've ran tests after
tests with a variety of individuals because people when we
came from Autophenomicon and we ran this live in front
of an audience, we had people literally fall to their
knees crying because they recognize the voice. The answer that

(01:14:10):
they got that they received just brought them to tears.
And so people kept coming to us saying, how can
we experience this one on one personally? So we thought
about bringing this available to schedule personal sessions online. While
we may be backing away from that just because people

(01:14:31):
say you can't charge for spirit communication, that's not right,
and I don't disagree with that, but the research going
from now from Staticicom three to what we have to
do next for four isn't going to be cheap. We're
not talking about a couple thousand dollars a year anymore.

(01:14:51):
We're talking tens of thousands or more. And in order
to do that and do it correctly, we're going to
need to find a way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Man, do your thing. Charge by the minute, charge by
the minute, charge by the anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
When we were testing, I mean, there were questions asked,
like what did I have for lunch? And the answer
was given and the gentleman who asked couldn't even remember
what he had for lunch and it only had been
a couple of hours, but yet they answered it. And
then there was one where a lady asked a question
of her son who passed away. He came in, gave

(01:15:28):
his name, said Mom, I love you, I miss you,
said the word that he that he passed away from.
And then the next sentence was reality serves you. And
I found that so fascinating what we just talked about,
that your reality is demonstration of what your consciousness believes

(01:15:51):
it to be and can be changed on thoughts alone.
Thoughts become things, Thoughts become reality, and so the doors
just keep opening to the possibilities of what is possible here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah, it's amazing, absolutely amazing. All right, let's go to
this one is called should I say the title of it. Now,
I'm just gonna play it. I don't want to preload
what's about to happen. Okay, So here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Do you know how did you die?

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Man, We've asked that question one hundred times do an
EVP and never got a response. And I'd even told sheree,
don't ask that anymore, because first of all, if they
answer clearly, they're not dead, because if they were dead,
they wouldn't be able to answer. But I was running it.
You can see me in the bottom right hand corner

(01:16:52):
in the dark. Sure he came up behind me because
this lady was responding, and she says, how did you die? Well,
she answered, but she answered without emotion, without being upset,
or she clearly knew what caused her death, and she
said I had cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Here we go, I'm gonna play this again.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
Do you know how did you die?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Wow? This is this is fascinating. This is beyond words.
This opens up so many possibilities, doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
That's just extraordinary, Thank you, thank you. It also opens
up concerns, concerns from who's going to want to get
a hold of it? What are their intentions? What would
they do with it? Would it be weaponized. Yeah, all
sorts of things. And then questions as simple as okay,

(01:17:55):
if this becomes a household device, how does this change
something as simple as like a court case if somebody
is suing somebody over a will and they said, well
the will says I get this, and you could bring
up the person and say no, that's supposed to go
to them. How does that affect? I mean? And then
things like science, religion, cultural differences. It would blow everything apart,

(01:18:19):
which is why the concerns are, do we let this out?
Do we make this a public I don't know. I
don't have all the answers yet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Absolutely incredible that you know. So then you would have
to have a spirit real ID verification right right? I?
Oh wait, wait, you know that I am not a
robot checkbox? Right? You would have to be I am

(01:18:50):
not a human check box, right? I am not a human?

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Wow, Wow, let's keep this going again. I don't want
to say what the name of this file is. Uh,
I don't want to preload it even for myself.

Speaker 7 (01:19:07):
Here we go, Yes, he was shot.

Speaker 13 (01:19:24):
Learning did you know that you were shot?

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
So?

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
Do you have a message for your family? To your mom?

Speaker 13 (01:19:45):
I saw you how they shot you or shoot you?

Speaker 7 (01:19:54):
Learning to bo Yes, Barama Bigianka and hous Tsha Bacon Boome.

Speaker 14 (01:20:20):
Just give me the name Lenin so I can help you.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Did you know how you were killed? H Lennin was
shot and killed last Monday?

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Lenin?

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
Do you know who did it or not? Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:20:58):
Can you give a name place? Let's start with first name.
What's his first name?

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
It's Christian's Christian m name. Christian name was Christian a
first last name? Okay, first name?

Speaker 7 (01:21:37):
You have a last name?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
What? Wait? Wait wait wait wait wait wait whoa?

Speaker 6 (01:21:52):
Okay? Let me let me explain this one. So this
was when I did the final upgrade to three point zero,
and three point zero gives us full two way communication.
So I was finishing the upgrade, had it done, and
I was testing it and Shari walked in and she
had a really distraught look on her face. And I said,

(01:22:16):
shre you okay? And she says no, And I said,
what's wrong? Excuse me? She goes, do you remember Lenin?
I said, of course? Last time we were with him,
he took us out for dinner. Of course I remember Lenin.
Why would you think I wouldn't remember him? She said
he was shot on Monday. This was a Wednesday. Statacom

(01:22:40):
was running and we heard it mention his name, So
I said Schari asked some questions. Not only was he
shot and killed point blank range, he was a politician
in the Philippines. That it was on CCTV. Some guy
pulled up in a hooded with a hooded sweatshirt over

(01:23:02):
his face, shot him point blank, jumped on a motorcycle
and took off. So we asked Staticom, what happened? Did
you know what happened? You can hear the answers, And
then we asked for a name. We got a first
and last.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Name, so it was Christian Dreadney.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
Dreadney yep. Now, how many murders are solved in the
Philippines About zero. But we released it because if it
ever does come out and information is released, we wanted
this release prior to any further information coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
What is the world? How's the world going to respond
if it turned out to be Christian Dreadney? Right? Where this?
Oh man?

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
You know when we and I'm not talking specifically about
anybody or anything. People, you do your own thing and
who you want to listen to and who you want
to follow. You do your own thing, you follow your stuff.
But nothing bums me out more when I see somebody

(01:24:22):
who can communicate with the dead say something like John,
is there a John in your life? Yes, okay, he's
talking to me now John relative. Yeah, he was my brother,
and that's all they need, right, And now they're going

(01:24:44):
down that this is not that. No, you don't if
one of those communicators to the other side said, okay,
Christian Dreadney is reaching out to me, that's different. Give
me Christian Dredney. Don't give me John right, don't give

(01:25:07):
me Bill. I don't want to hear but Christian Dredney.
That is oddly specific, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
It's very specific, and you're absolutely right. The other frustration
from say a medium, is that you have a third
party interpreter, the person who's getting the feelings or the messages,
and then they have to turn around and determine what
they're getting and then try and relay it on back

(01:25:34):
to you and hopefully they relate it correctly. But you'd
never know whereas staticcom is direct, I can hear it,
you can hear it twenty other people, or fifty other people,
or a hundred or however many people are in the room.
If it's over, speakers can hear the exact same response.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
I was at a seance. My mom had just passed, right,
I'm at a seance in this mansion with a bunch
of people sitting at the table, and I'm a pretty
public person. People know things about me, you know, So
if you're going to do something like that in a saance,
say something that isn't public, right, right, right? And I'm

(01:26:21):
listening to this person who's conducting the sans say a
couple of gibberish, bullshit things about my mom that did
make an You know what I did, man, I don't
want to be a dick. I got up, I got
up from the table and walked away. I didn't want
to be a part of it. Everybody else can go
and enjoy have your fun, right, but my mom just passed,

(01:26:44):
And don't sit here and yank me one way or
another and try to get at my emotions with stuff
that wasn't true, right, And I was uncomfortable with it.
I don't let everybody else have there. Forget your eyes,
that's fine. I wasn't going to be part of it.
This is different Christian Dreadney oddly oddly specific. Wow, very

(01:27:08):
much so.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
And people have asked us, have you worked in conjunctions
with staticom and a medium if the medium truly has ability.
The connection between the two is phenomenal. It's something you've
never seen before, where the medium may start a sentence,
staticom will finish it or fill in information to further

(01:27:31):
the information that they were explaining. But we had a
woman come up one time at a public presentation and
she says, I'm a medium, Can I ask a question?
And we said, sure, go right ahead. You know what
Statacom said, she has no ability.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Yeah. See, here's the thing with that ile love that
I have. I can count them on one hand. And
I've got maybe five friends, five friends at our mediums
that that are so good I won't talk to them
about this stuff, okay, all right, yep. And And they

(01:28:09):
they all of them have one characteristic that is the
same between all of them. They don't give a shit
what you think about them. They smile. They know that
they've got the gift and that's it, and that's it's
it's a very unique thing that all of them share.

(01:28:30):
But I tell them all the time, no man I
don't want to know. I don't want to know. I
don't want to know. But Jimmy, You've got no Jimmy
doesn't want to know. I don't want to know. Yeah,
they really freak me out when when they have the gift.
All right, let's let's go to what are we up to?

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Selective? Is that where we are?

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
M was that wrath men? H did you say wrath man? Y?

Speaker 6 (01:29:31):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Am I speaking with spirits? Yes? How am I hearing
you speak?

Speaker 10 (01:29:45):
Struct?

Speaker 16 (01:29:49):
Is it what you call energy of the mind? What
do you like to be referred to as?

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
Thanks? Huh?

Speaker 16 (01:30:05):
Do you like to be known as spirit or consciousness?

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
I think you said spirits? Did you say spirits? Say?

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Yes, yes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Okay? How many spirits are with me right now? Can
you give me a number?

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Sid?

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
All right, Well, thank you very much? Yeah, all right,
appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Wow, wow, wow. I was waiting for to go anytime, Tony, anytime, Tony, Tony, Tony. Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
You know, that's the one thing we can't control who's
going to say and what they're going to say and
if they're going to say. I mean, there's times we've
had people come up and ask question after question, and
it's just dead silent.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
I don't know if that's because they don't believe. I
don't know if that's because they don't aren't open minded enough.
We haven't figured out what those variables are because we
don't know the full reflection of variables we're dealing with.
But every interaction gives us more information, and that that's
what's so fascinating about it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Look, I okay, So I thought that there was three,
all right, and you could hear I was hearing the
distinctive voices, including the whispering that stood up, but I
was thinking three. And then you ask the question after
I was thinking already like okay with that's not anyway.

(01:31:58):
So you asked the question and you saw me hold
up three. Yeah, direct answer six. Yeah, that's a direct,
direct answer in real time correct.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Wow, this is this is this is amazing, man, it's
absolutely amazing. I again, the imagination that you have to
think through this and to pull this off, it's absolutely incredible.
Thank you. Yeah, let's uh, let's keep this going. And oh, oh,

(01:32:33):
by the way, I just wanted to ask really quick,
so what's the language of the Philippines to.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Golic and as far as other language. Yeah, When Shri
was speaking to Galig during that Lenin one, yeah, because
I was there, and although she speaks it, and she
speaks it all the time, I only know enough to
get my face slapped, right, So even though she was
asking the questions into Glig, they answered her in English

(01:33:04):
so that I could understand what their answer was. They
could have answered into Golic. In fact, the word ata
which they used is Filipino for sister, and they called
Shari that into Golic. But we've had many languages, we've
turned it on. One time, I couldn't even understand what

(01:33:24):
they were saying. So and we don't enough to speak.
We can just listen to them talk. But I said,
that's not English. What language is that? And I'm always
recording it? And they said Turkish. So we found somebody
who spoke Turkish and they were able to translate it
word for word and give me a translation of everything

(01:33:45):
that was said. They were speaking Turkish.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
When people ask me about extra dimensions and the multiverse
and the possibilities of all of this and what are
my thoughts? And people are thinking this a lot, and
I get the question a lot, and it's an honest question.
But this is my response so everybody can kind of

(01:34:12):
understand it a bit better. And it's this. Wherever you
are today in the world, wherever you are in your home,
wherever you are right now sitting and listening to me,
Around you are beams of carrier signals, Wi Fi, Bluetooth, yeah,

(01:34:39):
you know, router signals of full movies, videos, phone calls,
you know what I mean, face time, sell video, call chat.
But you can't see it right, You can't see it.

(01:35:01):
It's got to get converted right right. But it's all
around you right right now in your room is Godfather
Part two. But you can't see it correct. That's you,
isn't that? You know? And how do so we have

(01:35:22):
figured out a way to transmit and convert, interpolate, uh
you know, upload, download all that code and and and
figure it out right. The other part is what we're
trying to figure out now is tapping into these other
dimensions and that that are out there and all around us,

(01:35:43):
aren't they?

Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
They are? And you know that that brings up a
great point because people always say, well, what's the true
barrier between the living and the debt? You know, what
that barrier is. It's the human body. We have limited
visual sight in the visual lights spectrum. Our hearing is
only from twenty hurts to twenty kill herts, and that's
the best hearing that anyone can ever have. We are

(01:36:08):
blocked by the human body from the other information traveling
around us at all times. Why because we're not supposed
to know. It would distract from this life, our concentration
on it and what we're supposed to learn. It would
be like using your computer. You go to your computer,

(01:36:31):
You see what looks like a little folder. You know
there's files inside that, so you open the folder. You
see the representation of the files that are in there,
and you pick the one you want. But you're not
viewing the zeros and ones of data that are making
all of that happen, which is what would happen if
you weren't closed off to the three D world. Your

(01:36:53):
mind would become an entropic soup and you'd suffer from
mental overload and breakdown.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
And and in addition to that, because if that does happen,
and you are upset with anything in this realm, right
in this version, and you think that you can just
go to the other side. I don't want to say
any words that trigger algorithms. I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
But I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah, yeah, I can't do that. But that's that's where,
you know, it's like morals and dogma suddenly comes into play,
and that's that. Maybe that's why the understanding of what
is next is beyond a veil, you know what I mean,

(01:37:44):
That we're not supposed to know that until that time
comes h for whatever reason. Naturally, I also feel tony
before we move on to We've got two more clips.
I truly believe, based on facts that ancient cultures had

(01:38:06):
this dialed. They understood it. They were able to access
parts of the brain and consciousness to to understand the
other side, and they communicated all of the time, and
they gave us a lot of road maps not only

(01:38:27):
how they did it, but why they did it exactly.
And you know what I mean, it's you know exactly
what you mean, you know, and between then and now.
And I'm going to say when I say then, I'm
going to go I'm gonna go conservative. And I'm going
to say the year five hundred, like right after the

(01:38:48):
Dark Ages, right like right in there right in there
between then and now we lost the power, you know
what I mean, tell exactly what technology got in the way,
the printing press, right, steam engines, industrial age, chasing down electricity.

(01:39:12):
You know that's been going on for two three hundred years.
All of these.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
Science the place, religion, control all population, all of it.
I mean, yep, yep, all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Yeah, all of that came into play, money, right, distractions,
you know, and suddenly we were moved away from the
mind and we were looking at material things and the
things that we the material things used to control us,
to take us off of the knowledge that the ancients

(01:39:45):
once had.

Speaker 6 (01:39:46):
Could could not agree more and again, I know I
keep referring to Tesla, but Tesla said, if science would
spend one decade focusing on non materialistic things, they would
learn more in a decade than science has learned in
its lifetime to focus on phenomena rather than materialistic Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Yeah, you know that's why I think. I think every scientist,
no matter what you're into, it could be biology, chemistry, physics,
quantum whatever it may be, theoretical right cosmos, every scientist
has to do DMT.

Speaker 6 (01:40:32):
Yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Theics. But because now you are into not much, not psychedemic. No, DMT,
that's a totally different thing. And do that to see
the other dimension that is around you and the possibilities
that are there. Now, go chase your science down, Go
do your molecular biology, Go do your anthropology, Go do

(01:40:58):
your your physics, astrophysics, whatever it is. But have that
DMT experience.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
I couldn't agree more. And one of the reasons I
know that is, I mean, like I said, I've been
doing spirit communication for about fifteen years. My father was
a physics professor for forty six years, hardcore material realistic physicist.
Now try bringing spirit communication to a hardcore physicist. Some

(01:41:29):
of the toughest questions I've ever had to answer came
from him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Let's okay, so this next one, you know, let's get
these in here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
We go.

Speaker 11 (01:41:41):
Upper down, surious seven, okay, okay, what's going on there?

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
Okay, So this is me tuning. This is when we
first got it operational. This is me tuning Statacom three
point zero. And people always ask, well, did the spirits
help you? That is one of probably twenty different clips
I have of them giving me information. But I was
turning a dial and I said spirits up or down

(01:42:29):
to get it where I wanted it. Not only did
they give me the answer. I never told them there
were numbers on the dial. They gave me the exact number,
and that dial has not moved since we set this up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Smart Tesla. Tesla tells you to turn the dial. You
turn the dial, and you leave it. You leave it right. Okay,
I'm gonna play this again. Now everybody knows what's going.

Speaker 6 (01:42:59):
On upper down. The juris.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
Okay, dude, that is uber cool, thank you. It's absolutely
it's mind blowing it literally is. I mean, we had
our system and we got it up and running, analyzed

(01:43:40):
by PhD electrical engineer and computer scientists from the University
of Oklahoma. Now, he wouldn't touch the paranormal side, and
we understood that. He said, I will only look at
your electronics. So then what he did was he separated
the whole methodology in the two portions. He said, your
white noise generator is a and everything else is We're

(01:44:01):
going to consider be. He said, the only problem I
have with it is in the white noise generator. He said,
it's susceptible to electromagnetic interference and possibly some sort of
electronic wave. So he said, what you need to do
is you need to take and I built a brand

(01:44:23):
new and I built a brand white noise generator circuit
by hand. I encased it in a steel EMI electromagnetic
interference resistant casing. Then we wrap that casing in material
grade or military grade Faraday material. And then he said,

(01:44:46):
now I need you to ground that circuit into the
metal casing and then drive a metal pole a foot
and a half in the ground and ground it to that.
He said, if the voices you still get voices after that,
I'll be impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
An He's one hundred percent correct, by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
Right we did that. Guess what didn't affect the voices
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Yeah. A grounding rod outside with a hard line running
to it, to your circuitry is the best, safest, quietest
and perfect way to go. That's it. All recording studios
have a grounding rod outside, the pounded in the ground
on the top of it, solder right cable that runs

(01:45:39):
into your racks and everything in the studio is connected
to that and runs outside, not to the ground. In
your house, you're not grounding or your electrical system. In
a commercial building, you pop all those third plugs off.
You only plug into two. All the rest of your
grounding is universal to one spot. And it's the you

(01:46:01):
know earthing, earthing and call.

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
It earthing exactly. And that's what we did.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Wow, that's that's it's just the whole idea of the
whole concept here. You know what I would do, so
I would I would ask Jimmy Hendrix. I would go, Hendrix,
what setting do I put my tone? Noob on? Roll
it back to half, my man, roll it back to half.
You know what I mean? That's what you got there.

(01:46:26):
I like that six seven six seven seven.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
Yeah, I mean literally direct wow, direct responses with timing
and relevance to the question asked and intelligence. I didn't
even say there were numbers on the dial, but they knew.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Yeah, that's so cool. All right, here we go. This
will be our last clip, just in time to wrap
the show too as well. This one is called fourth
round of testing. Do we need to set this up?

Speaker 6 (01:46:55):
Yeah? This was actually once we had static coom three
point zero up and running. This is literally to show
and some of the other ones we played before were
examples of it, but this was literally to show that
I can ask more than one question, I can get
an answer and I can keep that conversation going. That's

(01:47:15):
what this clip now shows what Statacom three point zero
can do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
Time.

Speaker 15 (01:47:24):
What I can hear you when you whisper?

Speaker 6 (01:47:32):
You know that right?

Speaker 17 (01:47:37):
If you're not familiar with this device is called statatom.
If you heard mem If you don't want to say statics,

(01:48:00):
almost play that other game.

Speaker 6 (01:48:02):
But am I holding in my hand.

Speaker 12 (01:48:08):
Glasses?

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
Thank you? Thank you very much? How about pineapple?

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Can you say pineapple?

Speaker 6 (01:48:17):
Oh? Perfect? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
How can you can you say steacom like that?

Speaker 7 (01:48:23):
It's one word?

Speaker 6 (01:48:24):
It's one word, s dietacom.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Have you not been able to talk to humans before?

Speaker 6 (01:48:35):
If you can hear.

Speaker 17 (01:48:36):
Me spirits say elephants?

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Do you know Tony.

Speaker 8 (01:48:54):
Mean?

Speaker 17 (01:48:54):
If we use this device to help cold cases?

Speaker 6 (01:48:59):
Will you answer the question?

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
Wow? Real two way communication?

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
Wow? Is there just for clarification and transparency? Is there
any editing done? There is all of this just in
real time as it's busting now.

Speaker 6 (01:49:36):
That one we just watched, there is editing. That was
about an hour and twenty minute session. We did clip
it with questions and responses, so that is a clipped version.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
How quick are the responses.

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
They're they're right there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Oh man, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
And now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
I know everybody's thinking this. We have different tonalities in
the voices. There's a whisper, right, yeah, it almost sounds female.
I don't want to pin labels on who whispers and
who doesn't, but that almost sounds female. But all of

(01:50:19):
the male voices that we have heard have a different dialect,
a different tone, and a different sound, a different personality
to each one of them. It's not am I making
sense and what I'm thinking here?

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Yes, no, you're making perfect sense and you're absolutely right.
That was always one of the fascinations about going after
vocals that we like so much. I can tell if
it's male or female. I can tell whether it's an
adult or a child. I can tell what language they're speaking,
is it English, is it Japanese, is it tagalig or
any other language. I can tell if they have a territory,

(01:50:59):
accent or dialogue. I can tell their emotional state. Are
they happy, are they angry? Are they upset? Are they mad?
Before I even hear what answer comes through. That is
a bucket load of information that you can't get from
anything else. And you can apply that on top of

(01:51:20):
what is actually being said.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
The cold case idea is it's unreal. Right, there's a
serious application for that. Will you get to the point
where in our spirits? Okay, so the spirit said that
they were spirits, so obviously they are aware. I would
think of their position, right, you're dead, You're right, you

(01:51:50):
no longer hear you're over there, and they understand that.
Will you do you think you're going to be able
to get to the point where you can ask direct que,
you know what year did you die?

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
How can do that? We've done that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Right, because if they are, let me, we have very
little time left. If somebody died in the year one thousand,
they don't know what the frig the internet is, right,
they don't know what white noise is? Do they understand?
Do they understand? Have they evolved through technology? Do they

(01:52:28):
you know? Are they still learning? Do they understand, uh,
what technology is today?

Speaker 6 (01:52:35):
I guess that's where we had to define what we
believe reality in the afterlife to be. If you believe
what we believe, that as fractual portions. When we go
through our life, everything we learn gets taken back to
universal consciousness and that universal consciousness is shared, then there
is no reason or complete compatibility for me asking a

(01:52:59):
spirit from the at hundreds. Hey, can you hear the
white noise? They're gonna know because that's all shared information, right,
That's how a universal mind would grow.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
That's absolutely fascinating. How long do these spirit entities? And
by the way, Tony's website Entity Voices, We've got the
link below a great website, go over and check it out.
Do they have life spans forever?

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Really?

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
I mean, if you look at if you look at
the if you consider consciousness to be the ontological primitive
of life, which is basically displaying the universe and everything
in it and us when we're in human form, And
people say, well, so, how are you sure that consciousness
goes with you? Well, consciousness can't go with you. If

(01:53:54):
you are consciousness, you are only leaving the vessel or
the content behind you. Are consciousness that is going with you.
That's who you are. And if energy can't be created
or destroyed, it's going to continue. If it is creating
the entire universe, every thought, everything that we are experiencing, it,

(01:54:16):
it's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Fascinating, But what does this do? And I agree with you.
By the way, physics is saying these exact same things. Now,
you know information cannot be destroyed, right, and so you
know that it just stays out there forever. So it
just makes you wonder about that. What is the glue
of the universe? Is it? You know, this dark energy

(01:54:41):
that everybody's talking about right now in physics, is that
actually just consciousness? You know? Is there something else that's
going on? But but to that end, what does this
do to the question of reincarnation?

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
We've asked and they said absolutely absolutely, what it does occur.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
So back to my point, then, so their lifespan isn't
forever if they're being reincarnated, right, they hit a fork
in the road, and now they're going to be a
Schnauzer on planet Earth or me or you or whatever. Right,
and then and then you go back into the spirit

(01:55:26):
gene pool for another wash rinch, repeat down the road.

Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
Well, the only thing that's being renewed is the vessel
or the body, right right. The spirit has never gone anywhere,
or the consciousness has never All it did was return
to where it came and came back and the learning
of it is progressing, but changing the container or the vessel.

(01:55:53):
That's irrelevant. I mean, you can hold nails in your
garage and a coffee can, and eventually that coffee can's
going to fall apart. Your nails still made good. You
put them into a new container. Right, life is similar
in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Wow, this answers so many questions but present so many more. Absolutely,
you know, it's like you get close and then all
of a sudden, they move the chains. You know, they
moved the chains further down the field. This is fascinating research, Tony,
and thank you. I'm very happy for you and Sharie.

(01:56:29):
I can only imagine what is next. And and you
know Statacom four point zero and you continue to uh,
you know, tweak it and get it forward. But this
is a really really big step in the world of
the paranormal and supernatural.

Speaker 6 (01:56:45):
Well done, Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
Now I mentioned Entity Voices your website. Where can everybody
follow your work and keep up with you?

Speaker 6 (01:57:00):
Sure so, Entity voices dot Com is our website. You
will find everything from a small portion of investigations we
did early on, but the biggest portion right now is statacom.
There's a blog on articles on next steps, what we're doing,
where we're going to be presenting like we just did Phenomenon.
We're going to Halifax, Canada Symposium in about a month.

(01:57:22):
We'll be up there presenting, demonstrating different local events here
and other events for twenty twenty six that are coming up. Facebook,
either Tony Rathman or Shari Raffman, YouTube, just look up staticcom, Instagram,
We're there, TikTok, just about most social media you can

(01:57:43):
find us. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Just what a great show, man, what a great show.
Thank you give my best so Shari, I love you
guys so much. And wow, wow, what a great, great,
amazing show. I learned so much. Just great And I
hope everybody can appreciate my comment at the beginning of
the show when I first met Tony and Shari and

(01:58:06):
I walked up and saw the I'm a gear guy,
I'm a tech guy, and I saw that, I was like,
who loads this stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:58:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
She's like, we do. But I was just so impressed
with the technology side of this is what this community
needs more assistance with Tony. Not everybody's a brainiac, right,
they want to go on the journey, right, But who

(01:58:37):
is out there from a technical side, looking at software,
looking at this, looking at the gear, who understands electronics,
who was able to apply science to all of this.
We need more people like you in this sphere, and
we're so glad to have you.

Speaker 6 (01:58:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Thank you so much. Give my best to Shari and
I'll talk to you guys soon. Thank you so much.
Enjoy the rest of your night, all right, thanks to
bye bye, Tony Rathman. Everybody the absolute very best. Say
say say hello to Scherie everybody in the chat. She's
hanging out there. Shari, thank you so much, Tony, thank
you so much. I want to remind everybody, Uh, tomorrow night,

(01:59:17):
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