FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Lyn Buchanan

Tonight, remote-viewer Lyn Buchanan joins us to discuss his career in the US Army with their remote-viewing program... this is a true-not-to-miss conversation!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This Hope radio for the NASSIS headline of this July eighth,
nineteen forty seven.

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Of the YadA with the game.

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And we changed the game game change. I occasionally think
how quickly our difference is worldwide would vanish if we
were facing an alien threat from outside this work.

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This is Day to Black.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
All right, good evening, Fade to Black. How you doing
today's Wednesday, October fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Let's do this, man,
I'm your host Jimmy Church. If you noticed earlier today
in the news, I have a teleprompter up here right
down here's my computer screen. I'm looking right at my se.

(01:30):
You can see the camera is behind the teleprompter up here,
and the teleprompter move. I got a foot switch down
here that moves the teleprompter and rolls it. And it's
very important that that teleprompter does its thing, and it
didn't do it today on the news. Right, So welcome
to Black. Breaking new I hit the pat who doesn't
move like a crap. They're gonna find out really quickly

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that it's smoking mirrors around here, smoking mirrors. So I
had to go. I had to go to my show
notes and click through with my mouse. But we got
through it, and then I came in to test everything
you know, ten minutes ago, and it's working, just working,

(02:18):
oh Man, So what are you gonna do? What are
you gonna do this week? I pay to black oh Man.
Monday night we had Rick Osman here talking about the
history of Lost America. Last night, Lawrence Kraus was with
us talking about physics and three I Atlas and E
T and all that fun stuff. It was a great conversation.
Last night. Tonight, Lynn Buchanan joins us for the very

(02:39):
first time on the show kids. I cannot believe it,
I Lynn Buchanan on the show. I need to calm down.
I need to calm down. I was telling Lynn earlier.
I can't let my fanboy s side reveal itself. I
just need to be objective, be a series show host

(03:00):
tonight and just just not smile. Right Because Lym Buchanan
is with us tonight, We're going to be talking about
remote viewing all night long. In his career in the
future and what he's doing now and teaching and all
of that stuff. Tomorrow night, MD Selig joined us. What
a huge week on the show. Big big props to
Michelle because tomorrow night we have MD Selig with us,

(03:24):
a screenwriter, director, actor, and he's got a great series
on Netflix. We'll be talking about that tomorrow night, and
his books and how he creates science fiction. Yeah, and
he said, you know, I'm kind of a whistleblower because
I know things and I reveal it in my stuff. Yeah,

(03:48):
so that's tomorrow night. What a great week on the show.
I do want to mention this really quick. Last night
we had Lawrence Krauss on the show, and I've always
said that a great radio, a good show, a good
conversation for somebody that's listening. You you want to be

(04:12):
challenged as a listener. You don't want to just sit
there and go yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, yeah yeah.
You don't learn anything. You don't learn anything. You need
to be challenged. And here's the other thing with being challenged.
And last night was just a fun, amazing show where
I can just sit and learn something from somebody. Is

(04:33):
this in our world? I can't wait to hear Lynn's
comments on this. In our world, most of the planet
ninety nine percent of the planet ninety nine percent religious,
all right in one way or another. That little last
one percent that is there, you can divide that up
into different things, but that little one percent, that's the

(04:58):
serious minority. And then and then you have some people
like in the conspiracy world or Bigfoot or UFOs, life
after Death, whatever it is, crystals. Some are religious, some
are spiritual, some are not. Okay, Uh, you jump over
into the skeptic world, and even the world of science.

(05:21):
You have agnostic and you have atheists, and you know
people of science and everything else that that are very
pragmatic and black and white. But with any thing that
you have out there, any group, any and you and you,
you cannot reason anybody off of what they want, that

(05:48):
what drives their life and and in most cases they
were raised that way. You can't reason somebody off of
Bigfoot with all the facts that you want to present
that big Put doesn't exist. You can't reason somebody out
of science. You can't reason somebody out of religion. All

(06:08):
of the evidence that you want to present about this
or spirituality, you cannot reason somebody off of a remote
viewing and talk about or you can't. All you do
if you attempt to do that with anybody on any subject,

(06:28):
it doesn't matter what it is. I don't care if
it's crocheting. If you attempt to reason somebody, all you
do is strengthen and cement their position. That's it, all right. Now,
what's the joy in that? I find great joy in
that everybody's different. Let them do their own thing, let

(06:53):
them go on their own journey. You're doing yours, but
enjoy their company, learn something, talk, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And explore.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's the And I say this all the time. When
I have a dinner party, man, I have and I
do it a lot. I have everything at that table.
That's what makes it interesting. And I'll cause an argument,
you know, and get things up and raise the temperature.
That's what this show has always been about. I am

(07:27):
here to learn and explore the things that interest me,
and everybody is interesting to me, everybody. I don't care
who it is. I don't care, I don't I can
have a great conversation with anyone. And that's why this
audience and all of you are so amazing. You get

(07:48):
that about me. All right, all right, I just had
to I just had to say that because I really
enjoyed last night and I know that I was really
looking for. I've read Lawrence's books many times, and I've
watched his presentations many times, and I knew exactly where

(08:09):
I was going last night, and this is gonna be
a lot of fun. And we did. It was a
great conversation. And for some of you are going, man,
but but he doesn't think three I out and that's
his opinion. You know, he's a very smart, learned person
and he has developed his way of looking at things
in the data and all of that. That's fine. I'm

(08:31):
not going to talk him out of that. All I
do is strengthen his position. But he really wanted to
come on this show and talk to us and talk
to me. He wanted that. He said to me yesterday
before the show, man, bring on the woo. I was like, oh, man,
we don't have to woo it out. We can science

(08:52):
it out. He goes, no, Man, I know I know
what's going on. Let's do this. Let's have some fun.
And that's that's what I really enjoyed about the show
last night. All Right, I have seven events coming up.
Let me hit this pedal. It's working. I had seven
events coming up. Now that I got that off my chest,
I just wanted to get that out there. Conscious Life

(09:13):
Expos coming up this February twenty through the twenty third
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March twenty through the twenty second, and Sedona, Arizona. All
of these are in twenty twenty six. The Contact Modalities
Expo in the Midwest May first through the third, and Delavan,
Wisconsin after that, Contact in the Desert May twenty eighth
through June first, twenty twenty six, and then I head

(09:36):
south to Peru for the Inca Celebration of the Sun
with Brian Forrester. That is June twenty third through June first.
After that, I head over to Scotland for the Monty
Python Tour of Scotland August first through the ninth. I
come back from that and head back to Peru and
Easter Island with Brian Forrester, and that is November twenty
twenty sixth. All of the links for everything that I

(09:57):
am doing are in the description box below. Throughout social
media and you know where to go chase all of
that stuff down and I'll see you out there in
twenty twenty six. Also just added this is in twenty
twenty seven. I mentioned this briefly. It's out there on
social media. Twenty twenty seven. I'm going over to Egypt
with Sarah Breskman Cosme and the two of us are

(10:21):
leading her tour group. It's going to be amazing. But
what's really cool about this trip to Egypt. This is
a once in a lifetime experience. Seriously, it is the
total eclipse over Luxer. Luxer is in totality, So if
you want to go it, whoo right, Okay, so we've

(10:43):
got those links up, all right, let's get to it.
Len Buchanan is with us tonight. I call the show
OG remote viewer because he is. He probably just went
what's OG. Well, I'm going to tell you Lynn in
just a minute, former US Army remote viewer. Tonight, we're
going to talk about how he was recruited into the
military's top secret psychic espionage program and what he learned

(11:06):
from exploring both practical and deeply esoteric targets. He was
a member of the US military's Remote Viewing unit, and
as a viewer trainer, property book holder, database manager and trainer.
He is now the executive director of Problems Solutions Innovations PSI,
headquartered in Alamagordo, New Mexico. Author of The Seventh Sense,

(11:28):
a book about his time in the military unit, what
they did, and about controlled remote viewing itself. What is
controlled remote viewing? We're going to find out about all
of that. And I would like to welcome for the
first time to Fade the Black Lin Buchanan and Lynn.
You just disappeared. Where are you at? Lynn? Lynn? Come
back to me. Look, this is what should I show you? Guys?

(11:50):
What's on the screen? I hope everything is okay. I'll
just look at it. Hey, Lynn, we're ready, We're ready.
Where are you? I see something weird going on? Yeah,
this is true. This is remote viewing at its finest.

(12:12):
I mean, are you there?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is that a ghost?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
This is crazy. See, this is what I've got. And
there Lynn, You're there, but you're not there.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm not there. No. Can you hear me? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I can hear you. And now you need to bring
up your image. You're like ghosting in the background. This
is this is cool, man.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let me go to the UH thing kim link.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull this down. I can
see you from below, so I'll wait, un see I
can see your shadow.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah that's uh oh man, yeah yeah, Lynn, that's bizarre.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know you might you might want to exit and
oh now you're green. Oh that was crazy. Yeah, I can't.
I can't put that on the screen. You want to
see what that looks like?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Okay, why don't you exit and come back in? I
think I will, okay you Yeah, and uh yeah that
was you know what, how many shows? A couple of
thousand shows?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Everything else? You know that has never happened. I can
honestly say, look, how relaxed. I oh, uh whatever and
and so. But but let me just say this, and
I would have said this to Lynn. So I'll say

(13:55):
this really quick. Remote viewing. No, Lynn, completely exit, completely,
exit and come back in. Yeah, there you go, perfect
remote viewing. Remote viewing. I had heard about it. I

(14:16):
had you know, I had seen it, and I'm talking
about a long time ago. And here's the crazy thing
for me when it comes to remote viewing. By the way,
Lynn and I just had a great sound check everything
was fine, and all of a sudden is I guess
this was about twelve years ago, ten years eleven years ago,

(14:39):
and I was watching remote viewing and I had done
something like with Courtney Brown or something, and I was
watching a bunch of remote viewing videos on YouTube and
going down the rabbit hole and I'm clicking on one
after another and it was just so fascinating to me,
and I'm trying to understand what is going on and

(15:02):
and everything else. No, Lynn, You're still not there. Wow,
that's strange. Okay, maybe get rid of your background. And
so I was, you know, going through these videos and
I land on this video and I'm watching it's a

(15:23):
demonstration of remote viewing. And there's an envelope there and
I see that it's got it says target on it,
and I'm watching the process of this remote viewing session.
And it took like, oh, there he is. We got
you now, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very good. Hey, Lynn,

(15:45):
I want to share this story with you about one
of my first experiences with no. It was my confirmation
of holy crap with remote viewing. And I was going
through these videos and I land on this video and
I'm watching a demonstration of a remote viewing, and I
could see the target and the camera was above, and

(16:05):
the remote viewer is drawing, okay, and so I see
the pad and you know, the drawing, and I'm watching
the process, you know, drawing a little bit, flipping the page,
drawing a little more, flipping the page, and I'm watching
it kind of form, and I'm watching him like, wow,
it's starting to look familiar to me. Okay, all right,

(16:28):
this is interesting. And the tit and then the remote
viewer was done, and he puts a cap on his pen.
It was like a sharpie or something, puts the pen
down and he's got his drawing there, and I was like, man,
I know what this is. He opens up the target.

(16:50):
You know what the target was me and yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And it was a picture that I had
posted on me and my team on my website. My
name was on it right, Jimmy Church Radio dot com
down at the bottom of the picture. But it was
it was part of a story that I had just published.

(17:12):
And uh and I well, an artist friend of mine
had created this image and done this thing of this photograph.
And I watched the process of getting to what this
image was and It wasn't like kinda like you had

(17:34):
to squint your eyes or use your imagination a little bit.
No no, no, no, no, do no. And I sat back,
you know, I had my iPad and I sat back
in bed. I went, huh, this is something that deserves
my full attention. And I have been on top of
it ever since and interviewing and my friends and Michelle,

(17:56):
you know, and that that that whole circle and things.
It's such an impressive thing now, so I want to start.
That was my confirmation, right, That was my baptism. I
got dunked in the water. For you, you had a
different career path into this, and now I followed your

(18:22):
career and things over the years. But for everybody, I
just want to hear it from you. How did you
get into this? What happened?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I had a long career in the military before the
remote Viewing unit, and they started right before the moving
to the remote Viewing unit. I had written a program,
computer program that would tie the intelligence computers of twelve

(18:51):
different countries together so they could share information. And this
other sergeant wanted the job of writing the program, but
I got it. He was ticked off fully and took
me about eight or nine months to write the program.
But then the day came when I was to show

(19:14):
it to the general's commanding generals of all twelve countries.
And they were in the room where I was going
to show the program, and I had gone to the
bathroom to make sure my hair was right, creases were
right in my uniform and all this. I came back,

(19:34):
gave my little song and dance and hit the enner
key and the computer went dead.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of course it did.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, oh yeah. They started laughing at me, and I
turned around and the other sergeant was at the back
door said gotcha, turned around and walked out. I got
flaming mad. I have had PK events ever since I
was twelve years old. You've heard of poltugeist children. We

(20:08):
all have, Oh yeah, yes, and I was one of them.
It's a very common thing. Really. Parents trained their kids
out of it. But I got flaming mad, and when
I did, it fried almost all of the computers in

(20:29):
the skiff and the secure facility. And there was a
captain there who had been trained by General Stubbleby in
the head of Intelligence and Security Command to look for
these events. He just happened to be there and about

(20:51):
two months later, General Stubblebuyn came out to install a
new commander at the station and they called me and
they said, the General wants to see you. And so
I was waiting in the commander's office. General stubblebut came

(21:14):
in with the new commander following behind him. He said,
you're Sergeant Buchanan and I said yes, sir. He said,
follow me, and he showed me in front of him,
took me into the new commander's office and turned around
to the new commander and said, I need to talk
to Sergeant Buchanan. Get out and guess guess what list

(21:40):
I went to the top of man.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
We did stubblebint who who you know, is famous for
so many things these days? Right?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
But did he did you find out that he had
a general interest in this too as well?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well? I found it out then I didn't know that. Hey,
you got up in my face and he said, did
you kill my computers with your mind? And I was
gonna lie about it, and I just kind of heard
myself say, yes, sir, I did, and grin came over
his face. If you've seen the movie The man Usteric Goats,

(22:25):
the grin that came across General Hagood's face in the movie.
Is this exact same grin? He said, far f and out?
Have I got a job for you?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And what was your mos? In the military at this point.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
It was ninety eight? G? Are you why that's ninety eight?
Is linguisht G is basically focal linguist, you know, speaking
and not not translating or anything like that. Are you

(23:07):
was my Russian? And why was Russian technology? And uh,
you know the technology part of the Russian and uh
intelligence collection?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So you were you were in military intelligence?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
And I'm a military brat and you can tell when
I say what was your moss? It's really funny. I
I want to stay and go deep into this. But
me being a military brat, my dad was band leader
for the army band. Okay really yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I looked back and it was cool. But at the
time all of my friends, right, their dads were in
the military. My dad was in the army band. It
wasn't the same. You know, he didn't have pt training,
he didn't have you know, sharp shooting, rifle trade, you
know what I mean. It was a whole different thing.

(24:11):
He was a sergeant and he was the bandleader, and
that was great and everything. But I missed out. I
didn't see. And my point in saying all of this,
although I lived on a military basis and d D
schools and all of I missed out on all of
this cool stuff growing up. I never I never saw it.

(24:34):
And my friends their dads were intelligence or this or
that of colonel's and rear admirals. I had friends on navy, baby,
you know, and I always thought, man, your dad's got
the cool gig. My dad plays trombone. Anyway, anyway, No,

(24:54):
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't experience that. I experienced
it through my friends and their dads, But I didn't.
I didn't have that. But I certainly know how to
ask mos at the right time, which is very important
to see what your career path was. So to go
from intelligence and then into this. Where were you stationed

(25:16):
at the.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Time in Algebert, Germany?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Okay? So I did? I did, Wurtzburg and Frankfurt. Yeah,
in the military. So uh okay, when did did they
did you get papers? Were you suddenly heading back to
the States or was the program established over there?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Oh? The program has been established for ten years before
I got there. You know, General stubbun took me back
to Fort Mead. Uh, well, no, he took me back
to d c H. He wanted to start a He
wanted to start a unit which would destroy enemy computers mentally,

(26:11):
with the idea that we would progress to where we
could control the enemy computers, you know, make their message
drop into the c or put false information in their computers,
mess up things. And Congress said no, Congress had been

(26:31):
caught doing mind control in the sixties, and they said
never again. And so they said, that's too much like
mind control. They wouldn't do it. So he took me
out to Fort Meade and put me in the remote
viewing unit. They read me on and I thought, it's ridiculous.

(26:53):
The military doesn't do this. And so I was there
and within the first week I had seen them do
amazing intelligence collection without ever leaving their desk.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Who was there when he who was there when he
got there?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Let's see Tom Tom mcneer. Oh, I replaced Joe mcmonacle.
He left I think two days after I got there. Oh, Charlene,
she felt I'm missing somebody else. That was a long

(27:39):
time ago. Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
How did they describe you know what I mean, how
did they describe what they were doing?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Uh? They taught me the English one technique. Oh pretty
much by rote. Now I'll be honest, memorizing things. I
suck at it. I had to understand it. And so
everything they were teaching me, I started working in the database,

(28:16):
started looking at their old sessions, analyzing everything so that
I could understand the process. And the process is Ingoswan
was a mega genius, I'll tell you to have developed this.
The process is so centered on the subconscious mind and

(28:42):
how it works and how it communicates that I think
the normal person just wouldn't understand well, Like you say,
you know, I've always said a person's paradigm is like
a diamond. Harder the diamond, you can't scratch it, you

(29:02):
can't do anything, you know, And you were talking about
it earlier, and I've always said that a person gets
their theory about something and they hang on to it
like they're lost at sea and it's the only thing
that floats. And in that analogy, if you rescue them

(29:23):
and get them on the boat, they're still hanging on
to it. They're not gonna let go.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It is very, very, very true, and I'm okay with that. Actually,
if somebody has is that determined and that focused, I
admire that. I admire that anybody that you know, it's
okay to bend, it's okay to have an open mind
and learn something and expand and stuff. But but man,

(29:54):
if you're no, I admire that. I admire that.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
People that tap out and capitulate.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
When it comes to teaching somebody the remote viewing though
they have to let go of some previous things and
learn a new way.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, but they would have I just interrupted you, Lenn.
I apologize for that, but they would have already had
that opening sometime in their life. I mean, something is
there too, Yeah, because you're not going to talk to
some and talk somebody into remote viewing if they don't
believe that shit, right, Yeah, Well or is it possible.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well it's possible, yeah, because a student came one time,
and her reason for coming was so she could collect
background information so that she could go out to a
seminar out in California with proof that I functioning does

(31:01):
not work. She was about it. She's now president of
the International Remote Viewers.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Of course she is, of course, yes, of course.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
What's her name? Yeah, Deborah, Yeah, yeah, I know, I
know Deborah, Okay, yeah, And she's always I always hate
to give names.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You know what. She's amazing by the way she really
is as a as a person. You can look into
her eyes. Yeah, man, she is just she is spot on. Yeah,
she's amazing. She's But she was a skeptic. She never
told me that.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Really, she came and she when she walked in, she said,
I'm here to prove that this doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, she's got that shifty grin. She knows, she knows
what's going on. Man's But I didn't know she was
a skeptic. But I find that really interesting. I have
to ask you, going back to your MS, did you
have what's the what's the job classification? And did you

(32:16):
have a job title? You know what? I junior remote viewer.
You know, I don't know how did that work?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I was The job title was Russian linguist. Now I
knew how to program computers, and back when, you know,
nobody knew how to program computers. They were just getting
the desktops and nobody knew what to do with them.
And so I was pulled off of the intercept floor

(32:53):
and and put into programming the computers for the field station,
and and doing other jobs that would be pulled out
to do that never happened. Oh I didn't do them.
Nobody sew me do them. Nobody can prove the thing,

(33:15):
you know?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
And so can you talk? Do you talk about that
stuff today?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Not? Really?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, because these are my next questions, like what was
there a mission statement? What was there a focus for
you and others? Was it Russian computer systems? I mean
an overarching mission?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Uh? My MOS was Russian linguist. I was working programming
their computers, and so the job position I was in
for that last year beforehand was just to uh get

(34:03):
the computers up and running.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Now, what I'm referring to is in the remote viewing
program did you have? Yeah, the computer says we've Then
we've moved way on from that. And you're a remote viewer.
You should know these things. I'm a psychic or something. Yeah,
I've been a little too cavalier with you, sir. No.

(34:28):
But as a remote viewer, uh? Was there a job
classification for that?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I was a remote viewer first and foremost I was
also the database manager and the property book holder, So
I was responsible for all the property. I was the
database manager, programming the database and revising the data where

(34:56):
instead of it being a bit bucket, you know, so
many did such and such on a certain day, we
could actually farm that data and get information about the
remote viewing about our unit and all that. And so
those are my three main job titles. Now I became

(35:17):
the trainer of the unit the last two years I
was there.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
How and when did you Okay, so to become a trainer,
we need to circle back to that. Do you remember
your first target?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh? Yeah. They said, we're going to introduce this to you.
And they had what's called the beacon exercise. They had
a bunch of envelopes that had been you know, randomly
shuffled and all, and two of the people in the
unit just randomly picked an envelope, got in the car

(35:58):
and drove away and once they got out of sight
of the unit, they were going to open the envelope
and go to a location that was written on the
card inside. And after they drove away, they gave fifteen
minutes and then they had me sit down and they said, okay, describe,

(36:24):
don't identify in other words, use descriptors no nuns, okay,
and describe where they are, well, where they were supposed
to be. Was that a playground not too far from
the from the unit? And all I got was two

(36:48):
people riding in the car looking out the window with
trees going by, and just they were confused and all that.
And so anyway, the operations officer SKIP said okay, well
you didn't do it, but it's your first time and
all that. And they came back and he said, okay,

(37:11):
where was the location? And they said it was a playground,
but we never found it. We drove and drove and drove,
and we got lost. And so that made me think,
maybe I can do this. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
How did you feel? I mean, that's pretty That's a
paradigm shift when you really take a look at it,
isn't it that?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
It really is. One of the things I like to
see in training is when a student has it'd be
nice here that moment, Oh crap, I can do this,
and you can see that paradigm shift right there, and

(37:59):
they look at their session, they look at their feedback,
and they realized there is no way in the world
I could have guessed this. There's no way in the world.
I could have gotten this by chance and oh crap,
it works.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Did you now add with that kind of success out
of the gate, did you make the mistake of thinking, oh,
this is easy, Okay, I got this. No you didn't
get cocky?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
No? Oh well no I didn't. I thought. I thought
dumb luck, you know. And it was. They put me
into training and it works in six stages of operation.

(38:53):
And I spent about two months in the first stage
mastering it before they would let me go to stage two.
You have to master it you go to stage three
and and all that. And the course had been over
a year, but I finished it well within three months.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Who was training you?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Paul Smith, Bill Ray? Bill Ray is the one I
was thinking of. Paul Smith, Bill Ray and Tommy Tom mcneir.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah. Wow, pretty powerful group. Can I just say this
just really quick, When I grow up, I want to
be Paul Smith.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh that's a cool dude.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
That's a cool dude right there.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
When I grew up, I want to be Tommy Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, uh but uh so a year of training? What
was that like? Now? Uh, let me back up really quick.
We have controlled remote viewing, we have remote EVA and
what are the definitions of each.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Remote viewing these days is anything psychic. Oh, it's just
the new age term for something psychic. So you have
palm remote viewers, pendulum remote viewers, you know, tea leaf
remote viewers, and and all that control. The remote viewing

(40:28):
is a organized an organized process. First of all, the
military has to have everything standardized and organized, so it's
a standardized process. And it starts out with what we
call an idiogram. And to train for those idiograms, they

(40:53):
say land, and you may draw a flat lion like land.
They say water, may draw a wavy line, and they
do this over and over and over until they see
you draw a wavy line and they look and their
next word is water. You've done it before. They call

(41:17):
it out, and this is where they say, oh, now,
then his subconscious is doing the idiograms. And so the
stage one eddigrams only show the general aspect of a target,

(41:38):
like it's watery or it's uh, you know, spacey or
something like that, and then you say, okay, there's land there.
So then you go into stage two and you go
into censories. Because your subconscious can talk to you through
your body. So that's why you try when you try

(42:01):
to smell it, you try to feel it, you try
to see the colors, you listen to it and all that,
and whatever you get you write it down and then
in stage three you take all those things that you've
written down and you start sketching them. Stage four you

(42:21):
go into a really high powered remote viewing thing and
there's where you can get details. One of my students
was in a contest remote viewing contest, and the queue

(42:43):
was a picture of the top of a building. That
was it. He had never been to that building, he
didn't even know where it was. And the task was
tell us what's in the building. And so there were
a lot of other viewers and remote viewers and all that,
and they would tell what was you know, he drew

(43:07):
the actual floor plans of the building, accurately, told what
was going on in each room, told describe the people
that were there, describe the machines that were there, and
everything else. And he's one of our top remote viewers
and he won the thousand dollars prize. But just from

(43:31):
looking at a picture of the roof of a building,
he can draw the floor plans of the inside of
the building.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
In a weird way. I love it and it scares
the crap out of me at the same time.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh yeah, yeah. One of the things about CRV, the
military one, is that there's no defense from it. Psychics say,
you know, put a ball of white light around you
and you protect yourself and all. And we have found
that people who do that stop depending on their own

(44:12):
inner strengths of defense. They start depending on the white
ball of light. And when we get them as a target,
we can get an hour's worth of work done in
ten minutes and then go to lunch. I mean, it
makes them so easy to view. And generally, when you
put protection around a target, it makes it extremely easy

(44:37):
for controlled remote viewer to view.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
It, isn't it? Isn't it interesting? How the the ability
to do this in a program. Well, there's the psychic
side of it, yes, Okay, you see the advantages of
it for sure, But then there's the other part where

(45:04):
you know, the bookkeeping comes in and the logistics. You're
not flying personnel overseas, you're not getting into clandestine situations,
not people putting people in harm's way, you're not risking
getting seen or discovered. All of these things.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Well, ok, the Russians were looking for us.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And so when you look at all of that, and
then there's the other part. Wait a minute, can they
see you? Can they feel you? Do they know that
they are being remote viewed? Is that possible? And does
that happen.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
If you're using the English one method, they can't know
that you're they're being remote viewed. It's one of the
beautiful parts about it. Let's say you have a secure
facility and there's a guard and his dog walking around
the facility at night, and all of a sudden, psychic

(46:06):
starts viewing the place and the dog goes alert. That
gets reported. With CRV, the dog never knows. The dog
never alerts anything. And the trouble is with the psychic.
If the dog alerts, that gets reported, and the next

(46:27):
day they say, oh, well, plan B is known. Now,
let's I mean Plan A is known, Let's go to
Plan B. And everything the psychic learned is no good anymore.
With CRV, they never know, and so the information you
get stays good.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Well, I've always wondered about that. I asked Paul Smith
about this one. Yeah, and others too as well. That
you know, so you're remote viewing. You mentioned the park, right, Okay,
let's say they find the park, they get out of
the car and you're there remote viewing the park, and
then you see the kids on the swings like turn

(47:08):
and look at you. Right, you know you're where they
feel a sense. You know, some Russian general you're in
his office and you're looking at what he's writing and
he turns around and looks over his shoulder.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Never happens with Sarah B.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Wow. They never know. Now, if you get out of structure,
you may get seen, but if you stick with the
Englishwan structure, they never know. Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
The obvious question that everybody has, I'm going to ask you,
is the program still ongoing?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I have a standard answer for that. No, okay, Well
I have two standard answers. Oh, one is when you
retire that wore telling your secrets. Sure, so I don't know.
The other is I sincerely hope it's going on because

(48:08):
we saved lives, we saved the government money, We change
the face of battle, everything, and the government would be
stupid to not be using it. But that changes the
question does our government ever do anything stupid? I know

(48:30):
the answer to that one.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well, what about Russia, Israel, the United Kingdom?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh yeah, they're using They have their own teams.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, they would have to right. Anything
that we're doing, they're going to want to do but
better or vice versa. We got when that Russia was
all into p K, right, Oh, we can't let them
get the jump on fire starters.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Well that's where that's where it started. When when Hitler
lost the war, he had a unit called Doctor Grunbaum
Green Tree. It was patterned after the green tree of
the Kabbala, the green tree of life Hebrew mysticism, and

(49:18):
part of it was the the psychic effort. When the
spoils were divided, nobody wanted that except Russia. Russia took it,
and then by the sixties they had developed it to
where we were losing our secrets, you know, like we

(49:41):
were just throwing them out the window. And that's when
a Russian officer, Colonel Oleg Benkowski, tried to defect. He
brought the papers with him that showed what Russia was doing,
and the intelligence services kind of laughed at it, but

(50:04):
they said, well, if Russia's doing it, we have to
do it too, and that's when they went out to
Stanford Research hired uh Russell tag and how put Off
to develop it for the military. They hired Pat Price
and Ingo Swan.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Okay, you're remote viewing right now. You got inside my head, Mike.
I was literally trying to get into this jump in
to ask if you had ever met Ingo or Pat
and that was right here, and then you popped out
with their names just like that.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
That was.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
That was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Actually was so generally when somebody says, you know, are
you in my mind? What do you hear? Now?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
That was that was pretty trippy. That was pretty trip.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I always say an echo.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
That was pretty trip Did you ever meet Ingo?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Pat? I was good friends with Ingo. I never met Pat.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I never met Pat. This is how small this world is.
There's a friend of mine I've known for almost forty years.
This is twenty twenty five. I probably met him in
the mid eighties. His name is Robert Knight. You ever
met Robert?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh? Yeah, Robert?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, Okay, so I met him. You can see my
background here. I met him from that world, the music world.
He's taken my pictures and stuff, and he's been on
this show. He's an amazing guy. I've known him forever. Man,
And one day I get this email Jimmy Man it's me,

(51:49):
Robert M. Knight. How you doing. And I'm like, wow, okay,
that's kind of out of nowhere, and he goes, I
just wanted to let you know, man. You know, you
and I've been friends for a long time, but I'm
also a big fan of what you've been doing. And
I've been following you on coast to coast and Faded Black,
and I just I just had to let you know.

(52:11):
You know me as a rock and roll photographer, but
really good friends with Ingo Swan And I'm reading the
email right, I was like, INGOs, you never really know
somebody as well as you think you do. And him
and I friends for forty years. We never talked about
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I was in the music business. He was in the
music That's what we talked about. We didn't talk about
UFOs or remote viewing or PK or tell no, we
didn't do any of that. Yeah, And that's how that's
how much I love this world and his knowledge. And
then it ended up him and I talking. This is

(52:53):
many years ago now. When he told me about this.
All of my friends, he was friends with all of them,
all of them. I started making phone calls Robert Night Yeah, man,
he's cool. How do you know Robert?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
It was like it's safe and and and here you
are you know him as well?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
So what was Ingo like though we've never.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Was one of those lovable old curmudgeons. Oh, didn't take
crap from anybody. Uh and uh, with you, you had
and a moment's notice and generally make you laugh when
he did it. And uh.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
First time I met Ingo, Brian Busby, our director at
the time, introduced me and he said, this is Lend Buchanan.
He's a member of MENSA. He's a genius. And Ingo said,
I'm smarter than he is. Yeah, and I couldn't let

(54:00):
that pass And I said, yeah, but I've got the
papers to prove it. And from that moment on we
would slag each other, you know, and just uh, we
became really good friends.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Did you ever do We're gonna head to a break
here in just a second. I just want to ask
you this really. Yeah, did you did you ever do
any off planet stuff?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Oh? Yeah, all the time. No, not for the military.
We were never officially tasked with that for the military.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Are you winking at me when you say that.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Officially?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah? Wink? Wing. Okay, all right, I got you okay,
And and what did you what did you find out?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Oh? You have three more shows to talk about.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Man, Lynn, I've been wanting to talk to you about
these things for such a long time. And so, uh
what was okay? What was first? In viewing out off planet?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
We've got I've got a lot of Moon development, a
lot of UFO stuff and like I say, not officially,
but two star general walks through and says, hey, I
want you to do me a favor. What are you
going to say? No? And uh so you know we

(55:34):
did those after the military. I've done a lot of
work for space research development, Moon development, marsh development and
so on. Uh so I've done a lot of that's euctually.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Are you looking at location for development? Are you looking
for life that maybe they were observing us? You know? Yeah,
what were you cask with?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Well? For one, I think I have non disclutive agreements,
but I think I can talk about this. For one,
this company wanted to know how to house people on
the Moon who were going to build the first place

(56:32):
in the Moon. You know, how do you get temporary
housing on the Moon? And I did the team do it?
And what we found was you get a special kind
of my lare that will protect from radiation as well,

(56:54):
you know, and you stretch it over a small crater,
put fifty sixteen of air pressure in there, which is
sea level. It's half of what you put in a
bicycle tire, you know, and you've got people there. And
then if you tunnel to the side of the crater,
you can have a way in and out that you seal,

(57:19):
you know, and have the door ceiling and that way.
They could then go out of that and build them
the first place and then come back in and have
living quarters that were temporary just by taking a plastic

(57:39):
bubble and putting it over a crater and if the
plastic were punctured by a meteor ride or something, put
duct tape over the whole. And you know, that sounded
to me and to us like really stupid thing. And

(58:02):
the space, I mean, the Moon Development Corporation thought it
was fantastic. And I was out there one time about
a year and a half after we did the thing,
and the guy I worked with out there said, I

(58:23):
want to show you a recent fly by of the moon.
Watch this on the screen, and I was watching the
moon just slowly going by the moon surface and I said,
wait a minute. Stop. He said, yeah, I thought you'd
see that. There's a crater up there with plastic bubble
over it. Get out.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
That is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I'm sitting here listening to it. And I gotta say,
you and I we grew up in the space race
when we were kids. Oh yeah, all we did was
draw moon bases, right, we didn't draw a movement and
fanta and think about, I know, my lar over a
crater and make a door makes sense.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, and you know you can keep your supplies in
there and the people in there.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Makes sense?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Wow, fascinating, Lynn, piece of Scotch tape. You're good to go.
All right, Lynn, stay right there. I am your host,
Jimmy Church. I guess tonight the one and only Lynn Buchanan. Yeah,
that's right. Og. Hey, lind do you know what OG is?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I have heard the term, I don't know, original something
original gangster.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That's you. You're the original gangster. Len Buchanan is with us.
We're talking about, yeah, terms of endearment. Okay, Lynn, you
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the one and only OG. That's right. Lynn Buchanan is
with us, very excited about not only this show, but
this conversation. And Lynn, I wanted to ask you remote
viewing the past? We have the present for sure, and

(01:04:14):
then there is the future. Is it all the same
when you're remote viewing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It's the same, Uh, protocol? Yes, Oh, it's there's no
difference in protocol between saying to a remote viewer move
one mile forward and saying move one year forward. They

(01:04:43):
just do it the subconscious. The subconscious has no boundaries
on time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Is the accuracy? Are the results of the same the accuracy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
The accuracy is the same for the f future, as
long as nobody takes action on it. We have an analogy. Uh,
You've got the police come and they say, tell us
where the criminal is going to be at nine o'clock.

(01:05:15):
We say, he'll be eating dinner at Joe's Bar and grill.
At eight thirty, they come, he walks up at eight
forty five, they jump out and arrest him, and at
nine o'clock he's in jail. You were wrong, okay, if
you had said at nine o'clock he'll be in jail.

(01:05:36):
They would never have gone out to Joe's Bar and
grill and he'd be sitting there eating dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Oh that's oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Right. Yeah. So when you act in the future, for instance,
if I remote view.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
H well, that's heavy. That's heavy. That's heavy. That's a
heavy it's a heavy thought.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Well, I think that's one of the reasons we had
the psychic information, you know, ability anyways, to protect us.
If I remote you myself tomorrow at noon and I
find out that I'm in a car wreck, I'm staying home.
I'm not getting in that car. You know, I can

(01:06:18):
change to the future.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
And what about the past? You know, it just jumps
in my head really quick, like the target is the
Great Pyramid of Egypt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Now. What about instances like that? And have you done it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Oh many many times? Yes, I have. This is one
of my paintings in the background, and I have another
painting that has a oh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait the background is a
painting that you did. Yeah, uh huh yeah, wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Oh, thank you. I've got one that is a I
don't have it here to hold up and show you.
It's a crusader that is confessing to another crusader that
I got this during a session. The target was the
crusaders coming home from battle, and when I viewed it,

(01:07:21):
I latched onto this one crusader and he had killed
it innocent child, and it was just they couldn't get
rid of the guilt. So he's confessing to this other
crusader who was looking at him, saying, so, you know,
and out of that session, I did that painting and

(01:07:47):
it's become one of the one of the favorite paintings
that I have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
You know, can we okay, when we look get the past,
Let's use the Great Pyramid as an example. First off,
it's a great example because we just don't know, right.
A million ideas are behind it. So if you had
five remote viewers that were tasked with the Great Pyramid

(01:08:17):
and they don't you know, but they formula which version
would be accurate? You know what I mean? How do
we because we none of us were there, and we're
going to have these interpretations interpolations. However you want to

(01:08:40):
frame that of something like that from the past that
we don't know anything about, then we have something from
the past that we do know about, right, The Hindenburg
crashed on such and such a dain. So we you know,
we have accuracy there, But when you go into the
distant past, it gets fuzzier and fuzzier. So how do

(01:09:03):
we know which interpretation is the correct one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
The viewing doesn't get fuzzier and fuzzier, the feedback gets
fuzzier and fuzzier. Like you said, we know what happened
with the Hindenburg, We don't know. We don't have proof
to say that the viewers are correct when they find
out how the pyramids were built. And what happens is

(01:09:30):
you put five viewers on it, They're generally going to
come up working separately. They're generally going to come up
agreeing with each other.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yeah, Bill, Bill just posted Or do you average the interpretations?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I like that, some people do. I I resist that,
being a database freak, right, I want a database. I
want to database everything, and and some people like to
average the result. I think it lessens the accuracy of

(01:10:07):
the overall thing. But that's an argument that I've had
with people over databases for years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
How do you I'm going to ask you something really
like deeply personal, but how do you approach teaching.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Teaching?

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Oh, I start out the way ingo. Did we start
them out by saying, take a pen and paper. I'm
going to say a word, and you make a graphic
representation of it. Land, water, black, right. No, you don't
take colors.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
You don't take colors.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
No remote viewer, because that's a that's a descriptor, that's
not a basic archetypal aspect of the deepest part of anything.
So we say, okay, space and all that. When it

(01:11:16):
gets to where they do it automatically, then we will
take out a target and we'll say, okay, there's a
picture in this envelope. Tell me the basic aspects of it.
I'm going to give you some numbers for a coordinate,
and you do your idigram. And so they do man

(01:11:39):
made and water and they say, I have no idea
what the target is, but I think there's something man
made in water. You take it out, and there's a
boat sitting on the ocean. And now if you don't
take it out, you can take them into stage two

(01:12:00):
and you can say, start describing that which is man
made mentally, tap it, feel it, temperature, smells, sounds, and
they start getting physical descriptors and writing them down, and
as they do, their subconscious gets closer and closer contact

(01:12:23):
with the site. And then once they've gotten those, we
say okay, sketch it, and they'll sketch it, and then
we take them into stage four and say, okay, things
like what's its purpose? Why is it there? Access somebody
at the site, and tell me how they're feeling. Okay, now,

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then move back, how do you feel about what they feel?
And these you know, you get more and more complex
details when you go into stage four, five and six.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, what about right now? This is how my brain works, lend,
so just go with me on this. You know, right
now we have an opportunity with three I Atlas. Right,
We've got this object that's that's approaching Earth. The debates
are out now it's a comet, it's it's an interstellar object,

(01:13:21):
it's a space probe. It's not a comet. It's a media.
It's it's it's something weird, it's natural, it's not natural,
but that's I would say that that's an opportunity for
the entire remote viewing community to jump board with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
A lot of people have done that. I did a
quick session which was interrupted, and what I found was
that and the what's the one that starts with a nam.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Move oh mooh oh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah, as they go through space. Okay, they're a big object.
It does have gravity. You go through trillions of miles
of space, You've gone through trillions of miles of dust.
By the time it gets here, it's going to look
like a rock. It's going to have all that stuff

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and it will be indistinguishable from a rock. And these
both of these, if they are from out of our
solar system, they're going to look like a rock. Now
what they are is hidden underneath all of that dust

(01:14:39):
and collected stuff and all that. So what are they?
Oh I never got in my session around to that,
but other viewers have and and from what I've heard
from other viewers, they think that it's not a natural thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
It's behaving weirdly. You know. I had uh, I had
Lawrence Kraus on the show last night, and Lawrence is
one of the big minds on this planet, theoretical physicists, cosmologists.
You know, you've written some amazing books and you know
Yale and everything that he's done, and he's a very

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very very smart guy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yeah, and listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
What he had to say about three I Atlas was
more revealed he wanted to be natural. It can't interfere
with his worldview, right, and you know what I mean,
And that's okay, that's fine, that's fine, and he's he's
got the you know, and that's fine. But what I

(01:15:52):
found really interesting is is he's trying to take the
data that is current on this and force it into right.
It's the square peg in the round hole. He's trying
to get that to fit into comet. So he doesn't
lose his mind because he's he's you know, he's built

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a certain way, and I appreciate that, but the way
he was speaking about it, he had a lot of
trouble in dealing with the data, you know, and talking
about this. You know, when I bring up well, you know,
it's a lot of aluminum, a lot of nickel, a
lot of iron, you know, and he he can't process

(01:16:37):
that well, you know, And I get that. But when
the remote viewing comes in and the aspect of that,
the self illumination, I find very strange. Now there's talks
about it being hollow. I find that being strange too
as well. And then the other part about this len

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is all of the agencies are strangely silent.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
The media is all over this, the public is all
over this. But those you know that every piece of
technology that we have that can collect data, sensors tell
us go, everything is on this right everything, and right
now it's it's crickets.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
The four rules of interrogation define the truth?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
One you listen to what they say. Two, you listen
to how they say it. Three you listen to what
they don't say. And for you listen to how they
go about not saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
You know, and then flip that. Flip that over, yeah,
flip that over one hundred and eighty degrees and you're
going to get something close to the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
That's right. One. I had one of the highest security
clearances because of things that I did. And when I
went in to get my security clarance, the officer said,
I have never actually given one this high. And I said,
what's the highest possible security clericce you can get? And

(01:18:29):
he said, well, there is one, but nobody gets it.
And I said, what's that? He said, the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
I'm going to leave that right there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
That was awesome. This is what I think that for
the first time we have an opportunity here right to
jump on this and collect this extraordinary data oh Mo
Mo prized us. We only had eleven days to collect

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and it was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
It did some very strange things. It sped up, it
slowed down, it sped back, it turned a couple of times,
wasn't affected by gravity. There was a lot of really
strange things about OHM. But we only had eleven days,
and the first couple of days when it was closest
to us, that's when it snuck up on us. So

(01:19:29):
by the time we were interested in it, it was gone,
you know. And it was haulling too. It was two
hundred and fifty thousand miles per hour, right, and it's
gone and it will never well may never be back.
But we only had that when this time around, we've
got this opportunity. And it's not only with the agencies

(01:19:51):
NASA and the European Space Agency and all of the
satellites that we have out there and ground based stuff,
but we have amateur now that we're going to be
watching this with very powerful telescopes. There's going to be
a lot of things seen about this and they no
matter what if it turns out to be anything but natural.

(01:20:15):
You've got to figure out a way to talk about
this to the world. The world's going to be okay
with it, But holy crap, what if? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Well, what if? It will be the amateurs and the
non government aligned astronomers who are going to tell us,
and very likely the official party line will be the no,

(01:20:46):
it's just a rock.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Well, that's what I'm saying. They have they're going to
have a hard time if if they need to change
the narrative, if they need to make up there's too
many other private individuals. It's gonna be hundreds of thousands
of amateur astronomers looking at this and imaging it and
shooting video of it. You can't if it's anything but natural,

(01:21:13):
you can't really BS.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Well, you can. They're practiced and good at it. You
know why they're called u UAPs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Now you're gonna tell.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Me so they don't have to apologize to you for
lying about UFOs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Oh, of course, of course, of course. I remember when
Hillary was doing an interview, I think it was in Connecticut, right,
and she's yeah, she's campaigning, and she's in the lunch room,
she's by a refrigerator. It's a pretty famous story now,
but I remember when it went down. And so the

(01:21:58):
journalist from the local paper out there says, okay, so
what about these UFOs. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
And she goes, they're called UAPs now right, And it
was one of those things and to have that I
immediately stepped back and had that thought, exactly what you
just said. UFOs are UFOs mean one thing?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Et?

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
That's it. There's no, you don't say ufo and think
of a Russian drone. No, when you say ufo, you
think of one thing et flying saucers, little green men,
and that's it. There's no other thing to tie to
what ufo UAP man. You can make up whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Oh yeah, you bet, But listen to what she actually said.
They are now called up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Yes, that's right, that's exactly that's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly it.
What do you lynn? I know we're talking about remote
viewing tonight, but let's stay on this for a second,
because when you're looking off world and off planet and
remote viewing, you're also collecting data and increasing your knowledge base.

(01:23:24):
What do you think you know versus what you have
seen in and learned?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Is the world is the world?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Okay? With this subject. Now, you know, if discovered a
three I Atlas turns out to be some alien probe
observing Earth, or is the world going to be Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
There's a long answer to that. It takes two or
three minutes. Do you want to hear it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You're my guest, Lynn, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I was asked to do a paper comparing contrast, just
like an old college paper, you know, our psyche capability
with their psych ability, them, them, them, them, them and them,
you know. And I was given access to quite a

(01:24:19):
bit of information that will not be made public. And
you know how people say when you're abducted, after that
you start having psychic experiences. There is a lot of
information with many of the days in our socke capability,

(01:24:44):
and this is one thing that keeps me going and
remote viewing. There was this one where there were some
guys camping beside the lake and they saw a UFO
coming and they stood there and watched it. The thing
came up right over them, frozen and abducted them. And

(01:25:05):
this was an UFO, you know, abduction report, and everything
I had studied so far kind of coalesced, and I
realized that they have more psychic cability in that case,

(01:25:25):
they have more psychic ability than those guys at the
you know, standing by the lakehead, but they don't have
any range. In CRV and many of the psychic methods,
we can see across space and time like we can
see across the room. And I went back and redid

(01:25:49):
all of the studies in light of that, and I
finally wound up writing the paper that you can divide
all of them into four categories, those who are more
psychic than we are and those who are equal or
less psychic than we are. Remember the task here was

(01:26:12):
compared and contrasts psychic ability. And in those two categories
you have friends and enemies. And so the enemies that
have less than we have don't come here. The ones
that have less than we have come here for trade.

(01:26:33):
The ones that have more than we have in our
friends really want to see us develop this ability. The
enemies that have more than we are they want us
wiped off the planet. And I couldn't figure out why.
But this one incident taught me that when we get

(01:26:57):
out into the universe, which we will, our psychic ability
is going to make us a power in the universe.
That's why our friends who want us out there and
developed this method or developed this ability, and that's why
the enemies don't want us out there at all. And

(01:27:19):
that's that was the result of the paper I turned.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
In telepathy consciousness and that type of brain to brain
communication is faster than the speed of light.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Oh yeah, and it's not stopped by distance, it's the time,
not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
And so e T especially an advanced civilization out there,
knows this. We're not there. We don't understand that yet.
It's is that our next stage of evolution?

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I think so, because uh, you know, I think it
will become necessary because it seems to be of great
value to the ETS, and this is one of the
reasons you get abducted and your psychic ability grows, starts
blossoming out, and this is this seems to be of

(01:28:20):
great value to our friends out there and probably our
enemies too, And so yeah, I think I think it's
going to have to become a major part of our civilization.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Would would that type of disclosure? Would it happen outside
of the government's control.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Once they make themselves public. Yes, now, probably shouldn't talk
about this either. The ET bases that are here on
the earth seem their ET bases, but they have an

(01:29:12):
aspect to them of also being a reservation where the
government has said you can put your base here or
nobody will see it. Nobody, you know. And we've we've
done extensive study on the one at Mount Hayes and
Alaska Mount zeal in Northern Australia, the one in the Pyrenees,

(01:29:36):
and the in Spain, and the one in Zimbabwe. We've
done some pretty serious work on those four. We know
that there are others, but they seem to have an
aspect of being a reservation as well as a base.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Were these Lynn, It's my job to get you to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Were these some of Were these some of your targets
in the in the army?

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah? Now they were not targets that were officially task
us by the government, Okay, but uh, yeah, they became
a major part of our of our work.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
And how how does that? How does that happen? I'm
talking on a technical level. Is it longitude and latitude?
Is it done that way? Is it done by name? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
It was hard to discover these first. And uh and
then of course we also viewed those four and part
of the viewing is here's a app there's a world map.
Find it on the map and uh, yeah, we know
where they are. Uh. One time, Skip uh said, well,

(01:31:10):
we need a little bit of feedback on Mount Zeal
in Northern Australia. He said, there's a there's an official
diplomatic station there. So he called the guy and he
uh asked him, you know what do you do up there?
And the guy said virtually nothing. If it weren't for

(01:31:30):
all those you UFOs flying around about Zeal, we hadn't,
they'd be boring here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah what okay, let's stay specific. I want to talk
about Hayes too as well. But with Mountain Zeal, what
did you guys see? And really was the Has the
base been there before us or is it something new?
And it is is there operation with us today as

(01:32:03):
modern humans? And what is going on in Zeal?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
I really don't know when when I viewed it, of course,
I was never allowed to see the results of the
other viewers that would pollute me. When I viewed it,
what I found was that it was a sort of
an entry point to the Earth that ships coming there,

(01:32:29):
ships coming to the Earth would sort of report there, oh,
load and unloaded and all that, and then go out
around the earth. Oh. The it seemed more like an airport,
uh than anything else. You know, there were ships that

(01:32:53):
were coming in docking people, people get on and off
and all that. And by people, I mean I always
see the ETS is just other people, so I refer
to them as people.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
And what about Mount Hayes up in Alaska?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
From what uh, from what several of us found, Joe especially,
it seems to be some kind of ah intelligence gathering
station for them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Uh you know, uh, same species, same race of ets
that is at zeal Uh No, uh different.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
There seem to be many races that are there. Yeah,
and I don't know about the one in the Pyrenees,
but I know that the one in Zimbabwe seems to
be repair station.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
M hmm. What about underwater stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Yeah, I've heard that there are a lot of underwater things,
and I have viewed some of the underwater but I've
never done the map to find out exactly exact locations.
And all the ET question, you can't do anything about it.

(01:34:23):
And so if I'm going to sit down and do
a session, I'd really hope bring a missing kid home.
The et ET targets just don't interest me. I mean
around here in Alamagordo. You go out almost any night
you can see the ets. They're all around here. Around here.

(01:34:46):
You say, oh I saw I saw a ufo, and
everybody says, so it's Tuesday, yeah, Tuesday. And we had
the i r V A conference here last week and
we went out to my ranch, the remote view ranch

(01:35:06):
and uh, by the way, remote view Ranch dot com.
Take a look, you'll see the ranch. But they were
there was a group of them standing over to one
side talking. I went over to see and they were
filming some UFOs that were on the horizon.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
And Spain and Zimbabwe too as well. What's interesting about
these different locations is there is there are stories behind
each one. Oh yeah, and sure and how long ago
you know, especially you know when you talk about Zeo,

(01:35:50):
talk about Zimbabwe, talk about the Pyrenees, to talk about Alaska,
there has been sightings and stories and things behind all
of that. Before you remote viewed these areas. Did you
have any idea about zeal Did you know about Mount Hayes,
Did you know about Zimbabwe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
And known to think about it? And in fact, when
you you don't want to pollute a crvar so instead
of saying you know your target is a location or
a base or something like that. You say, your target
is project number ninety four or seven three? Question five?

(01:36:33):
What's the answer?

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
That's it, that's it. Everything comes from there. And so
when you get I love that part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
No, let me tell you why the target. No, you
have to be you as an observer from the outside.
You have to be skeptical. And the only way you
can be because it's too easy to go, oh, well, okay,
that's leading. Yeah that is you know, that's but if
all if all that you have is a number and

(01:37:09):
question five like you just said, and then it formulates
out from there. That's the only way a skeptic can
observe this. And yeah, and not talk shit right right,
I'm sorry, just use a bad word, but you know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
You know what I'm saying. We had a senator come in.
See we were only funded one year at a time
for the whole twenty six years, and we had a
senator come in and he said, we're being asked to
fund you for another year and I just don't know
if we And he said, one of my age put

(01:37:50):
a picture in an envelope I don't know what it is,
so you can't believe me for information, and it's in
my satchel, and I want your viewers to describe that picture.
And so we went over and he was watching, and
he came back afterwards and he said, I am totally unimpressed.

(01:38:10):
I was expecting to see some psychics and all this.
He said, I saw two guys sitting at the table,
and every now and then one of them write something down.
And our director at the time said, okay, here's what
he wrote down. Take out the picture, and the uh,

(01:38:31):
I'm going to pull some words here, you know. And
the senator looked at the feedback and looked at the
session and kept saying damn, damn, damn, And we got
funded for another year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Isn't that I understand why the perception is like that
where people want to see you levitate the desk chair.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean that they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Understand necessarily that this is a job. You have protocols, right,
and you have your ways of doing things, and you
have your method of operation right. It's not about, you know,
starting fires.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
But but.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
That's what he was expecting, and I get that it's
not it's not as how do I say this, It's
not as dramatic as they want.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
It to be. Right, No, In CRV, you get the
basic aspects, then the basic descriptors, and then sketch, and
then on and on, and you may spend an hour
two hours before you finally get down to the information
that's needed. Natural psychics they want to name the they

(01:39:57):
want to get the information within second.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the great Karnak, Yeah, the great
karnact sneer vision that way. I I've been to a
few remote viewing classes. I haven't taken the classes. I've
only you know, just walked in and been an observer.
But I've done it many times. And I was at
this one class all rookies, right, I'm assuming, right, And

(01:40:26):
there was probably it was pretty full, maybe twenty twenty
five people in this in this room and the teacher.
So I come in and they've been in there for
a couple of hours and I commend for maybe the
last fifteen to twenty minutes. But I'm walking around and
the difficult thing here is everybody knows who I am,

(01:40:49):
and I don't want to interrupt and be you know,
but I'm interested in the process. So anyway, I'm walking
and I'm standing in the back of the room, leaning
up because but I'm watching this this gentleman in front
of me drawing, and he's feeling pretty I could tell
right he was. He was zoning it and I was like, okay,

(01:41:11):
and and he had this card that he had, you know,
his final drawing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
And then the reveal comes, all right, and I walked around.
Now when I saw it, and it was on a TV,
you know, big flat screen, and I see it and
I'm looking at that. I'm looking at what he's drawing,
and I watched him go hey, raised his hand right, yeah,

(01:41:41):
but it wasn't similar, it was exact. It was crazy.
And uh So anyway, I walked around and I looked
at everybody else, and everybody wanted the analysis from the
teacher and you know, and and and and some criticism

(01:42:03):
and so forth, trying to help everybody along. But this guy, wow, wow,
wow wow, And he had turned to me and I mean,
I was my mind's blown and he goes, man, I
just signed up for the class just because I wanted
to check it out. Yeah, that's all. He didn't know,

(01:42:26):
you know, he didn't he's just thought, oh, remote viewing,
this seems interesting and and and he signed up for
it and came in. Do you see that kind of
stuff a lot from students?

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Oh yeah, a lot. I am. I'm not surprised by
anything I see anymore, but I will never quit being amazed.
It's just amazing to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Now, I'm not asking you to be a pitchman at all,
but and that's not what I do in this show.
But if somebody is interested in remote view can they
just go to cr CR? Can they go there and
get some information there?

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
And the opening page down at the bottom, I don't advertise,
I don't toot my horn or anything else. There's one
little sentence that said, if you're interested in training, click here,
and if you click there, it goes to the Kajabi platform,
where I have an introductory video that basically says, here's

(01:43:32):
what it is, here's what it's not, and if what
you're wanting is what it's not, don't send you money.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Right right right? Somebody just posted in the chat, are
there any CR viewers in here? Crvs in the chat?
I'm going to ask you, if you're a remote viewer
in the chat to hang out tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
A CRV or a remote viewer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Well, come on, Lynn, don't bust my chop.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
There's a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
I know there's a huge difference. I know there is,
but this is a live show and I'm trying to
be smart right now. Okay, all right, so yeah if
you are yes, oh, somebody says here they teach r V. Okay, yes, oh, okay, yes, ah,

(01:44:29):
this is great. Yeah, you know, just let me know.
And and Lynn's stuff is below and you can just
click on it now. I wanted to ask, do you
have you mentioned Paul Smith earlier? He was one of
your teachers do you have Are there a good are

(01:44:52):
there teachers out there that you enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Yes, Temmy is not teaching. I'm not sure whether Bill
Ray is teaching or not. Paul is teaching. And I
know that I have right now five students who have
become teachers on their own, ones in Italy, ones in Canada,
ones in Ireland, the other two in the US. And

(01:45:22):
they are just fantastic teachers and fantastic cr veers. And
they had to master it before I would give them,
you know, my approval for them to teach. And they
are fantastic there's Colleen Marynatchup in Canada, Paul O'Connor and Ireland,

(01:45:50):
Coral Carty in Italy, and Michael Ronaldi in the States.
And you know, we have now some fantastic crvs who
are teaching CRV and we all teach the same manual.
We all teach the English one method. If you take

(01:46:12):
basic with one of them and then you take intermediate
with the other, where the basic leaves off, their immediate
picks up. So you know, it's it's not like you
have to start all over again with a new teacher.

(01:46:34):
The method is standardized and it's the method used in
the military.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Okay, So let me ask you this. Let's let's get
let's get controversial. Yeah, when it comes to the military,
ethics and morals are their own, okay, whatever that there
are reasons for doing things military man, they have bullets

(01:47:01):
and guns, you know, and sure, okay, but in the
civilian world, len ethics and morals with remote viewing also
needs to be taught. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
I teach ethics, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
The ethical people will learn them and the unethical people
will go out and use it for bed and I
know that, but I also teach that what goes around,
comes around in the subconscious world, and you hurt others,

(01:47:40):
you're hurting yourself. You hope others, you hope yourself. So
I teach. I'm very strong about ethics in my training.
Sometimes it does no good because of the person.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Which is why I'm asking the question. It's just so important,
right And if you okay, I'm glad you brought this up.
If you go and you and you get good at it, right,
and you turn around and you use it for the
wrong reasons, the universe is going to slap you upside

(01:48:18):
your head.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh. The theory behind it is
that the subconscious gets its information from the collective conscious.
You hurt somebody, you hurt the collective consciousness. You're a
part of it. You've just hurt yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Why does all this bad shit keep happening to me? Well, yeah,
let's talk about that. Yeah, you know, And that's a
lesson learned. That's a lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
And some people learn it the hard way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Yeah, they truly do.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
I I.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
Used to say, I don't say it as much anymore.
I kind of ran it in the ground that I
walk around with flowers hanging out of my pockets like
I can see good in everything, or I try to write.
I've kind of backed off on that because sometimes bad
people are just going to you know, I don't want

(01:49:21):
to see good in somebody. That is just like doing
a bad thing. But here's but this is what I
firmly believe.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
If you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Just behave that's it, right, whatever that involves being good,
being nice, yeah, being giving, being of service to whatever,
but not negative. Don't do bad stuff if you just
then that spreads. People pick up on that and and

(01:49:54):
people observe that. And today, can I tell you what
happened to me earlier today? This is this is this
is how I operate. I was at my dentist office.
I had to go and do some stuff and next
door is a supermarket and I needed salsa. Okay, I

(01:50:15):
needed salsa for after the show tonight. So I'm in
there getting salsa, and I'm up at the self checkout
and next to me is a mother and I'm guessing
it was her son. You know, he's probably twelve thirteen
years old, and they had like three or four things
that they were buying at the self checkout that's next

(01:50:35):
to me, and her credit card is not going through
and so and I'm doing my thing. I was like, okay,
I'm gonna go pay for her groceries.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
That sucks. And she's got her son with her, right,
so it was not to sell. And so I'm doing
that and I heard her say, my card's not working.
My card's not working. And I'm like, man, come on,
hurry up, hurry up. And I'm wanted to be smooth
about it. I just come up and just you know,
and and pay for it and get out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
And so I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
I do my thing. I turned and they were gone.
They went walked back in to take their stuff back. Yeah,
And I looked and I missed the opportunity. That's a gift.
I love those gifts. I love those gifts. But my
point is, and I missed it too, by the way,
and I should have gone to find them. I didn't

(01:51:30):
want to embarrass her in front of herus. I didn't
want to do any you know what I mean. I
didn't want to do any of that. But the opportunity
was gone. And I'm looking at everybody that this planet
would be so much better if everybody just looked for
opportunities like that. Oh yeah, Because they're everywhere, and that's
that's what I just want to spread good vibes. Yeah,

(01:51:53):
I'm my Harley heart.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
Oh yeah. I was in Walmart and I've passed this
woman who was talking to another woman. She was telling
her misery, she broke, had no husband and all of
this other and she said, it's just one thing after another.
And you know, if I could just get happy for

(01:52:18):
one day. And as I was walking by, I thought,
you could pray about it. And I walked on you
got down the aisland and thought, why didn't I say
that out loud? It wouldn't have hurt to say it
out loud. No, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
And so many And that's why remote viewers and people
that are part of this in our community, we have
a pretty good dose of empathy, and we see things
in others and we feel their feelings and so forth.
Let me tell you something. You want to change somebody's day,

(01:52:59):
Say hello, that's most most people. Most people had this clothes,
they're they're not acknowledged, you know, whatever it may be
right where they tend to feel invisible. Man, Because I
was like that. Man, I was like yeah, man, I

(01:53:20):
was man. I went through some hard times and when
I went through those hard times. Now I've got a
million friends, right, I do, and I got I got
to turn people away, all right. But it wasn't always
like that. And I remember feeling invisible and it's a
shitty feeling, man, it really is, you know. And if

(01:53:44):
somebody would have come up to me when I was
feeling like that where man, my heart was in the dirt,
and somebody would have just come up and said, hey, man,
what's going on? How you doing? It would yeah, it
would have changed me. So I do that all the time.
I do it constantly.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
I need to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
I'm addicted to it. I need to find a twelve
step program where I can go meet once a week. Hi,
my name's Jimmy. I'm too nice to people.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
I've got my plans for Christmas. You know what I'm doing,
all right. I'm shopping fort right now. I'm getting a
Santa outfit and I'm gonna ride around on my Harley, Yeah,
with a bag of gifts. That's what I'm gonna do. Man,
I cannot wait. I got this whole thing, plann, I

(01:54:40):
got this whole thing. Beard, I'm in disguise. I'm gonna
get a pillow for my belly. I'm gonna be fat
Santa on my Harley and I'm just gonna ride around
and hand out gifts to strangers. Yeah man, yeah yeah,
and I'm gonna feel great going to come home and go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Giving is a whole lot better than getting. It really is.
But getting when you think nobody cares to give the treasure.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Yeah yeah, I got my eye out for it. I'm
looking for that opportunity. Man, I just stand. I'm addicted
to it. I love it and it is Yeah. Sure
you've helped somebody out. Okay, Yeah, Okay, that's not the gift.
The gift is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
To me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
It's the universe gifting me. And that's I just love
it and I smile and I enjoy it. Can I
be a dick? Yeah I am. And I fight for
this community and I do write a Harley and I
listen to heavy metal. But you know what, fairies are
real and and just be a good person, okay, you know?

(01:55:59):
And Lynn, thank you so much. Everybody can head over
to see our viewer and follow everything and get involved.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Yeah, take a look at the ranch remote remote viewranch
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah, okay, Bill, John and Jessica get that up in
the chat for everybody for later and Lynn, I can't
wait not only for us to hang out, but our
next conversation here on the show. Thank you so much, Hey,
thank you, good talking to you. It really is Lynn,
You're the best man. Thank you so much, sir. Let

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me see you enjoy the rest of your night.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Oh you too, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Perfect night on the show, Lin Buchanan, everybody, it is
see our viewer dot com. We've got that up and
we'll get the rest of the links up and of
course we have them in the description below, over on
our website and throughout social media. I do want to
remind everybody tomorrow night we've got MD sell on the show.

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