FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: David Palmer

Tonight, astrologer David Palmer, The Leo King, joins us to discuss 3I/ATLAS... the intersteller visiter that will reveal itself to us in two days... on October 29th!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
This Hope Radio for the NASSIS headline of July eighth,
nineteen forty seven. The Audi Air Force has an outstart
applying this they found and there's now in the possession
of the ad Air with the game is very changed.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The game Game Changer I occasionally think how quickly our
difference is worldwide would vanish if we were facing an
alien threat from outside this work.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
This is Day two Black.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
All right, well, well, well Fade to Black. Yeah. Today
is Monday, October twenty seven, twenty twenty five. Let's do this, Mayana. Yeah, yeah, excited, excited. Yeah.
This week on Fade to Black, Tonight, the Leo King
is here, David Palmer, Yes, three I Atlas Tomorrow night,

(01:29):
Brooke Ashley is here. The History of Halloween. Wednesday night,
We've got a three I Atlas special because that is
October twenty ninth, the day of the Arrival, and then
Thursday night our annual Halloween special event once again this
year and in every year. Jim Harold is with us

(01:52):
the paranormal podcast The Campfire. Jim Harold one of the
the leading top Tippity Top podcasters in the world. Jim Harold.
He's been doing this for a long time and it's
always great each Halloween when he is here, and that
is our week on Fade to Black. This is a
crazy time right now, and I wanted to bring in

(02:16):
not only the very best with David Palmer, but a
close friend and somebody that I trust and I value.
His opinion and his knowledge of astrology is there. It's solid,
and we all love that about David. But it's a
historical event. It's a deep history, the geopolitical side of

(02:37):
deep history through today and the influence of cosmology and
what goes on in our star system and the universe
that influence a lot of events, and right now we
are at a very historical time and I truly mean this.
We can go back, and I'm going to do this
tonight with David, but we can go back deep into

(02:59):
the historical record. And many anthropologists and archaeologists do this
where they go and they look at writings, they look
at k paintings, carvings, statues, all kinds of things for
different celestial events that are marked on these calendars and

(03:20):
stories to help pinpoint because we know the timing of
certain things that happen throughout our star system. And I'm
specifically speaking about comments, but we also have supernovas that
happen in the sky, and when they happen and when
they pop up in the historical record, it allows us

(03:42):
to align the calendars. But then look at the events
that happen around the world at that time when these
different events happen. Well, we're in the middle of that
right now. I don't believe I can ask David about this.
I don't believe this has ever happened before, where we

(04:03):
have not one one comments a big deal, two comments extraordinary,
three three objects around our planet at the same time,
two or confirmed comments, one may not be. How crazy
is this and it's happening all at the same time.

(04:24):
I've been going outside every night looking up at the sky.
You can now see these things with the naked eye.
You can't see three eye ats yet and take pictures.
Last year when I photographed comments with my phone, I
saw them better on my phone than I did with

(04:44):
the naked eye. You can see with the naked eye.
But now it's like cooler with the naked eye to
just look up at the Big Dipper and it's just
it's extraordinary. But we are doing three objects in the
sky at the same time. October twenty ninth is coming up.
That is this Wednesday, and then Thursday is the thirtieth.

(05:07):
So wow, what is going to happen? What is going
to be revealed? Well, tonight, David the Leo King Palmer
is going to be decoding that arrival of interstellar object
three I Atlas. We're going to talk about not only
what it is, but it's astrological, meaning you know, what's

(05:27):
the effect on Earth? A spiritual awakening our consciousness. We're
going to be talking about all of that tonight with
David the Leo King Palmer. All of his links are
below everything that you need to get to David and
see all of his work. It's right there. But I
would like to welcome back to Fate to block my
good friend David Palmer. He's right there. What's going on,
young man?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
What's up? Good to be back on the show.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Is that it Put your phone down and look at me.
This is dinner time. I'm being a dad. I'm being
a dad right now. Put your phone down, young man.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh and I actually have a phone. My camera's a
little higher than the screen.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
We're good. Are you Are you anticipating doing that with
Aurora anytime soon? Honey, no phones at the dinner table?
Are you going to be like that?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I mean, especially now with what's happening with this generation
that we've seen behind mine with phones. Yeah, yeah, you good.
Think she's not into the phone. She was at like
one just to kind of like, oh, we're at dinner,
put on something. She's kind of tripping out, you know.
But now that she's two and a half, she doesn't
care about the phone.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I'm like, they call, oh wow, wow, Yeah, something's changed
in her. DNA. I'm gonna throw you under I'm gonna
throw you under the bus before we get to three.
I at lists because I'm sure that you've got a
lot of your your fans and your people here in
the chat tonight and listening to the show. So first off,
in the interest of transparency to those that may not know,

(06:58):
you and I are very close friends, right period. Yes,
we're close friends. And this is what David did to
me this week. Everybody, I'm gonna throw him under the bus.
This is what he did. This is what a good
friend does not. I get a text, I get a
text from David got a bunch of texts from David,

(07:20):
you know, and something. I open up this text and
don't say what it is, David. I'm just going to
say these words. It's a picture of a car, and David,
it's my dream car that David and I have been
talking about now for the last couple of years. Right, Yeah,
that's accurate. And so he sends me a picture of

(07:42):
this car at a dealership and he goes, hey, bro,
I was going to buy this for you today, but
I didn't. And I'm like, wait, what why send the text?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Then?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Why send the text? Why do you do that? Wait? No,
either you say happy birthday, look what I just bought you,
or don't send the text. You can't send that. Almah.
I was going to but now but here it is.
So that's my good friend David Man. I'm so worry.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I know, it's pretty screwed up thinking back at it,
because it's not like it was just any dark horse.
It was like one you would buy like the color
every option it was and you don't see them. And
I just happened to be at the Ford dealer and
I'm just like Jimmy Church and I just took the picture,
and I didn't think much. I was like, hey, I

(08:32):
know your birthday. I was thinking about getting you this
for your birthday. I hope you've been well.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
See see here's the thing about you, David. And just
so everybody should you have the biggest heart. You're one
of the coolest dudes. And if somebody was going to
buy me something like that, it would be you. I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It would be I am that person.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah you are, you are, but not this time.
Not this time. I was going to, but I didn't.
Happy birthday broke a man. We're gonna laugh about that
in ten years. We're gonna really laugh about that. I've
got to I've got a screenshot that text and save it.

(09:14):
One day, I'm gonna post it on social media.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
And it wasn't AI. It was legit. It was legit.
It was it was a real cooking it.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, it was a real text. It was a real tech.
Do you want to take it back? You want to
take the text back? I'll edit this out of the show.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I have to go back to that dealer, so
I'll see if they still got it. See what I
could pull off.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what is Now I mentioned
this at the intro of the show, three celestial objects
at the same time. Historically this is what you do.
Has this ever happened before?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
So there's been insane than's like this, but nothing like this.
And what I mean by that is take ten fifty
four for example. It's the year of the great Schism
in the Church that we know today as a Catholic
Church splitting from the Eastern Orthodox Church. And we have

(10:17):
the biggest supernova recorded on record. Okay, and at that time,
people in the North didn't record it, but all of
China did. People in North America today Native American tribes
recorded it, so we know it happened. It was so visible,
was in the middle of the day, and at that

(10:39):
same time there was many planetary aspects happening. And the
Chinese did a really good job of actually recording comments,
better than anybody in history. So I just want to
make that one straight. But we've had a lot of
incidents where comments. What they represent in astrology are situation

(11:00):
is that they are predictable once we track it enough
and we understand the transits of it, and we can
finally understand those cycles. But when they're new, they're unpredictable.
They come not from any kind of same angle, right,
They just show up out of nowhere, and then they
get closest to the Sun and that's where they heat up,

(11:20):
and then we judge it based off the tail. So
if there's three tails or two tails or a weak tale,
that's bad luck. That's what's been over the last two
three thousand years of recorded comment history is how well
is the tail. If the tail's not strong, if it's
broken up, bad news for the planet. So we've got
a lot of data with this. But what makes now different.

(11:45):
This is an interstellar object that's being observed by you know,
scientists as a comment because they don't really know what
it is, but it's not acting like a comment. We
were able to see it farther out than where we
can normally see comments about five au away right, and
even closer, so like basically where Jupiter's orbit out is.

(12:09):
That's usually when comments are starting to form because they're
getting closer to the Sun. Three A atlas already was
emitting light and was able to be seen by January
or July first, And that's what's wild is also the trajectory,
especially as an astrologer, nothing comes on the ecliptic plane

(12:30):
of the planets. Nothing comets come from zenith north or south.
They come from multi crazy directions. They pass through and
look like nothing. Asteroids, they don't look like planet terry
connected at all. Like it feels like they're super separate.

(12:50):
What's crazy about three a atlas? It's the most in
alignment with the planets than any other object that as
an astrologer, for thousands of years we've all been studying,
except for like I guess Chirn, the asteroid discovered in
nineteen seventy seven that orbits the Sun. It's in between Saturn,

(13:11):
and you're honest that it goes by that that's the
closest object. But again it goes into ice and then
it burns the ice off. But that's it. There's nothing
else that's been this powerful and transformational on our ecliptic plane.
And what's radical about it is it's passing all these

(13:33):
planets in such a short amount of time. And the
fact is well too that it's speed in how big
it is, I mean to me, it almost kind of
feels like in many ways we don't know what it
is fully yet, right, that's dirony, but it could it
could be anything from gosh, what does like maybe a

(13:57):
planet from a rogue planet that's forming look like as
it goes around and takes a tour around our multiverse
to any of the above aspects. But the idea of
it being a full common at this point, I mean,
it doesn't even it comes from another place that's twice
as old as us. So I find it really interesting

(14:18):
as an astrologer because anytime we have an anomaly like
the ten fifty four supernova that changed the world, we
call that year the Great Schizo. And it's weird because
the North didn't record it, so the churches didn't want
people to know about it, even though they could see
it in front of their face, which was really weird.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, there were reports back then when that happened, very few,
but they but there's a new star, right, that's what man.
I can understand that. But to them it was that extraordinary.
There was a new star and it was showing up
in daytime.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, and then it showed up for like almost six
months to a year. At night you can still see it.
So after the like three weeks in the day right
as bright as you can see the sun, and then
you can only see that thing. Then it continued, so
it didn't go away. But it was wild that the

(15:19):
powers at be that were in the north, the churches
were like acting like nothing big deal was happening. But
in the coins, which is really weird. They put they
put it in the coins and that was their way
of like saying we saw it without writing about it,
which is so weird to me.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Now, what some of the things that are extraordinary about this,
I mean, there isn't anything comment like that were we
normally associate with comments to go on with it, And
we have two comments in the sky right now. We
can look those are comets. You look at those and

(15:59):
those comets very three I Atlas isn't doing any of that.
Of course, coming in on the ecliptic is bizarre. The
timing of the alignment of the planets is pretty bizarre.
Its speed is way bizarre. It's it's hauling balls and

(16:19):
it's two hundred and fifty thousand miles per hour, which
is just insane to wrap your head around. But per
helium happens October twenty ninth, and what what do we
do if that thing makes a move like it turns.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's slows down.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Something that naturally shouldn't happen at all. What what what
what I mean? Holy crap? Right, what if something like
that actually happens?

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, Because that's what's interesting is if we think about
the plant, what makes astrology and even just anybody who's
an astronomer so fascinated by the planets is they're perfect math,
they're perfect transits. They're more predictable than anything on Earth. Right,
Like we can predict a new moon, we can predict
an eclipse. We can predict Jupiter when it's in conjunction

(17:20):
with Saturn. We can predict it out every twenty years.
We could see the we know the math. If this
thing changes course, that's an anomaly of something we don't see.
We don't see that, which only can lead to one,
we don't know everything about our universe and two that's
not natural period. Because the way that it's from the

(17:47):
study as an astrologer or if you're looking at astrophysics,
it's pretty predictable the way the universe works when it
comes to bodies. Right, Even asteroids like have their path
and we can go and judge, Hey, this thing's gonna
get close to Earth, but it's not going to make
any crazy turn on us, right, It's just it's going

(18:09):
to pass Earth. It's not going to hit us. Comments
are the same way. We can trace the path and
then whether it's tailbop, whether it Tailey's comment, we can go, Okay,
it's on this cycle and it'll come back around and
we can look on our watches one hundred years, six
hundred years later, whatever and go here it is. It's back.
This is We've never seen anything like this before, and

(18:32):
I think it's good to get an astrologer's opinion because
we're the ones that track the tracking of things the
most as far as cycles and paying attention to them
twenty four to seven. So for us, we're like, this
is radical. This is like what I actually last time
I was on the show, I went back, this is
what I predicted that the twenty twenty five when I

(18:54):
was predicting this year, this would be the year something
would show up, whether it was a planet like a
planet X or something that would give everybody's attention to
go something's not natural here to describe the origins of humanity,
because I think that's the question with three at lists.
If it for us and our human origin we connect

(19:15):
with these planets. We connect with our moon, even though
we really a lot of us have questions about the moon.
We don't really connect with that one fully.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
But you know, the.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Planets and their relationship and their transits and their predictability,
and our and our lunar cycles, we connect with those.
Even comments even Mark Twain came with the comment, even wrote,
I'm gonna leave with the hailbot right and then left right.
So it's really interesting that this is something that comes
out of nowhere. I did my own right when it

(19:46):
popped up. I went into JPL and I switched the
trajectory and everything, all the math, and I put into
a tropical geo based astrology. And so then I went
backwards and I went, is this this thing connected to
twenty twenty? There was major comet that year, by the way, too,

(20:07):
during the pandemic, right, But what was weird was we
had the Saturn and Pluto conjunction I've talked about on
the show many times. I went was three I at
lists because we had the math finally connected or close
by Saturn and Pluto on January twelve, twenty twenty, that
started the whole plandemic. Guess what it was at the

(20:28):
exact same degree.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Hmm, what about I'm not kidding, babe, dude. It's blowing
my mind. And so we have the other part of this.
You know, we have three iye atlasts, but we also
have Swan and Lemon at the same time. Now that

(20:52):
doesn't that elevate it to crazy town?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah? Because as were for those that want to understand,
when something gets closest to the Sun and we're on
the other side, you have to look at it as
like it's exactly on the other side of the Sun
right now. Is Earth aligned?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So what makes this crazy is as this is happening,
these comments over these last like you know, month and
a half have just kind of popped up and showed
up in the close by these inner planets as three
at Let's interstellar object twice as old system wise, they're
gauging maybe a million years it could have taken to
get here. Happens to be at the same moment in

(21:37):
our inner solar system right by just went over Mars.
Now it's up Us literally right across from us on
the other side of the Sun, and Mercury's there, Venus
is there on the other side. It's really wild to
me because this is getting like, why are now out
of nowhere new comments showing up? There's something everything's trying

(21:59):
to like pay attention or everything's coming here for some reason.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
And the astrology always predicted that this was going to
be these times right now. But you know to me
that it's like, it's like a messenger, it's like a
wake up. It's like and I'm gonna drop some bombs
on the show that I think are positive for people
about it, because I don't think that what's going to
happen on October twenty ninth, except for if it changes

(22:28):
trajectory or at least even speed or direction, that's what
we're gonna get. Mainly, the bigger thing is when you
look at the months ahead and when it gets towards Jupiter,
if it stays on its track. Is if you look
in the history of astronomers, or especially if you even
think of going back to the Starry Messenger sixteen thirteen

(22:52):
in Galileo, his study of the moon in that book
was also him looking at Jupiter, and then of course
he saw Jupiter's moon UNEs right, and this is before
telescopes were around. Let's not forget Galileo was pretty on
top of his stuff. He was. They also traced back
from the journals that he was the discoverer of Neptune

(23:14):
without knowing it, because Jupiter was exactly in alignment with
Neptune in sixteen thirteen when he was looking at Jupiter's moons.
So there's a possibility that he also saw Neptune with
his little telescope. It might have been a lot more
powerful than we thought. But what's interesting is we always
discover more in our solar system when we're looking at Jupiter.

(23:38):
So same thing happened with Jupiter Saturn that happened in
the sixties, and we rolled into the seventies we discovered Chiron. Okay,
so there's something now every telescope, every human being with
a telescope, especially as we get into December and January,
we're going to be able to see it if you
have a telescope. But we're going to be looking at

(24:00):
a Jupiter like nobody's talking about, or Auvi Lobe hasn't
talked about yet, that we are going to be looking
right at Jupiter and all these planets Mars and Venus
are gonna be on the exact other side of the
Sun as we come to that point and everything's gonna
be in alignment. I wish I could show people the chart.

(24:20):
It's insane, and the three D helio chart. The cosmos
are going to be rocking from now until January like
you've never seen in history. And it's like we always
see something when we're looking at Jupiter for too long
with our telescopes. We always do so three Aatlis could

(24:41):
be more than just what it is, but the messenger
to have us look somewhere to discover something else too.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Let's peel back some layers on this. One of the
things that stood out for me. Now everybody, whenever I
have any questions like this, I called da You know,
I need to know he's he can look up at
the sky and point out individual stars. We've done this
so many times and explain what is going on. I'm

(25:12):
better at it. But I have a telescope. David has
been to my house. I have all the gear. I've
got the night vision, I've got binoculars, I've got this,
I've got and I'm always looking up at the sky.
This is one of those events that everybody is doing
what I'm doing right now and doing what you're talking
about We have so many amateur things going on. And

(25:36):
one of the things on July first was that three
I Atlas was illuminated. We saw it when it popped
out from behind Jupiter, and that from the very first
images and the comments that astronomers and amateur astronomers were
making was that it was lit up on the front.

(26:01):
How strange is that that it was illuminated on the
front from the word go right from jump Street. This
was not a comet and to be illuminated like that,
not illuminated from the sun self illuminated, Yeah, extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, because it's extraordinary too because it it came from
where galactic center is in the south declination wise, right,
So that's of course we see antaras down there, right,
the great red Giant, our biggest sun in our Milky Way.
But we also see so many, so much activity of

(26:42):
just the understanding of our Milky Way galaxy, right, Like
that's there's just so much happening. So for them to
see that through the thickest of just thickest of what
stars you could see shooting stars, every object that when
you're looking down south there, that's where you could see.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
There's eight he can see eight galaxies with the naked eyes. Yeah,
in the southern hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right, So the fact that it came from there, and
that's what made me do the math to go there's
no way, but I have a hunch this thing was
exactly in the place of what started the pandemic. It was,
and so now I'm going there has to be a
cosmic intell There's got to be some some sort of

(27:31):
intelligence with this, because there's too much math. That's to
me perfect.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's like if I could create something to come into
our solar system and be literally at our same ecliptic, right,
like with all the planets, and to show up at
the time when planet Earth is ready for disclosure. Right,

(28:00):
people are over the governments, people are And this is
what's weird is in history you see all these kind
of things where the people are at when these anomalies
and these big things start showing up. We're used to
supernovas or comments and stuff, interstellar objects. This is now
the next round. I love it.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
So here's the big question. Do you think it's et?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
If it was, it's probably us from the past. That's
not the question, right, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's either David it's either natural or not.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm saying it's not natural.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, I don't think so either. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I've never seen anything ever come in to the Solar system.
And you know what's great about math and technology today.
You can run every object that we've known about that
we find, you know, whether we caught it over the
last fifty years or not, and we finally tracked it,
we understand the orbit. You can run that through everything,

(29:12):
and you can go through thousands of years and you
could see everything in what it's like in our solar
system and let the planets rotate, and let everything rotate,
and let everything come in, and watch comments come in
and out, watch asteroids and watch all these things. Never
have you seen anything like this be a straight line
from And this connects kind of to the ancient stuff
with especially where's three atlists going. It's going into cancer,

(29:34):
It's going to where Series be is, It's going to
where the Egyptian pyramids point. It's going in the direction
where all the ancients point. They're pyramids. So to me,
I go, there has to be something about what the
ancients have been talking about forever that's connected to this.
That's where I'm going with the unnatural part because it's

(29:55):
like where we know where it came from. It's going
from the galactic enter to the other side of the galaxy,
right Like, that's what's so interesting. It's also going in
the opposite direction of the planet, so it's technically retrograde,
right like, So it's it's going the opposite direction, right,
so all the planets turn one way around the Sun,

(30:17):
it's turning the it's going the direction the other way.
And it's just like beaming through the planets, right. It
looked like it. It was so funny. When I looked
at it at July, I was like, this thing looks
like it's just gonna hop over bars, right and then
it's just like and it did. But it's just like
be And what's crazy is right after we see in

(30:40):
the next couple of days, when it gets closest to
the Sun, not many people are talking, that's when it's
gonna hit exactly the exact same ecliptic degree as the Earth,
the inner planets, everything in the Sun. Like every it's
going to be right on the same level with all
of us. Perfect. That's what the beginning of November is.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
God, it's insane. To me and when you back out,
and I had I had Lawrence Krause on the show.
I keep bringing this up. I had Lawrence Kraus on
the show a couple of weeks ago talking about three
I Atlas, and look, he is world renowned physicists, written
some great books, and he's up there with the best

(31:24):
of the best and stuff. And I got a hand
it to him. He came on this show know he knew,
he knew, and so anyway, he absolutely dismisses anything that
takes him off of his road. They don't want to

(31:47):
hear it. I don't want to hear it. It's just
just no, no, because of the blinder. But when we
start talking about these the size of the universe, and
this is what I brought up with him, the size
of the universe and how tiny we are the Milky Way,

(32:07):
and then inside of the Milky Way, us and our stars.
You know, when you think about the ginormity of the
universe and then this object tracks past us and our sun,
what are the It could just one millionth of a
degree and it misses us completely. Right. It seems very

(32:30):
very very very very targeted and on purpose. And I
don't think that is a crazy thought. Kraus just dismisses
that for it to be on the exact ecliptic of
us is extraordinary, isn't it. I mean, what are the odds.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Of that, David, There's no I mean I think Govlo
does say it best. Whether it's one in five hundred
or one in two thousand. You just if you look
at how the planets aligny, there's so many cycles that
take a long time, and for anything to just go yeah,
I'm just gonna check everything out. I'm gonna get really

(33:12):
close by and I'm gonna write and just be. And
the other thing is, I was just watching this movie.
It's like number one on Netflix right now. It's about
an ICBM going dynamite right in that hole, like trying
to hit a bullet with a bullet idea, which is
exactly makes a lot more sense to me of like yeah, right,
they don't they say they'll shoot that down Youah, okay,

(33:33):
good luck. That's the same thing of like this thing's
like a bullet and somebody pointed it and went not
like oh kind of hit anywhere, but like as the
best target like with a scope ever to go through
our inner planets go right by our son with us
on the exact other side, and then even go towards Jupiter,

(33:57):
as it's literally in an area for where the ancients
point everything at the stars systems that it's going towards.
I'm okay, right, exactly perfect. Nothing's done that, nothing's done that.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's not. I was texting a friend of ours today, Lisa.
By the way, she says, Hi, and we're texting back
and forth, and she's going, so, you know, I'm a
little freaked out. Should I get some extra food and water?
I said, I just come to my place. You know
it's safe up here, and she goes, I just might

(34:37):
do that. But the funny thing about that is the
way that she texted. There's an awareness on this planet
right now and about this object. I'm not so sure
if it would be as newsworthy in the past like

(35:00):
it is now because of disclosure and what is going on.
Let's say everything happens, It changes speed, it changes trajectory,
it does it, you know, it does it? And will
the government will there be an official if it turns

(35:21):
out to be artificial? Do they take that plunge? And
because of all the amateur astronomers looking at it can
they lie when we have all this you know, all
this extra eyes on it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I mean, I think it's really weird. The government shut
down right as it did cross over Mars. Thank god
we have the Europeans to show us a picture, but
we have better pictures and we're not. And it's it's
it's not even just NASA, right, It's like NASA then
has an astronomer and his telescope take you know, like okay,

(35:57):
he has the picture, but it's like a PR thing like, well,
the government shut down, so we can't like talk to
the PR NASA team how we want to put this out.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well, but we have NRO satellite, andsa satellitites all that,
we have all the censored data and collection.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
They're not turning off NASA stuff right now with the shutdown.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
No no, But so already this is already testing the
grounds that you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
People I think need to witness in theirselves go they're
already playing the well the government shut down. The government's
not shut down. When it comes to all the technologies
and all of their look on them. It's not like oh,
you know, we're not going to see if a comment's
gonna you know, just come by, or especially the Asteroid

(36:46):
Warning International Network got turned on. I mean, and what
about the Hello, what about the James Web?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
You know now, no, it's pointed in the other direction.
Are they going to be able to image it with
the James Web? I would think that they would be
all over it.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean because the one I mean early on it
did kind of helped a little bit, right, especially getting
to the core of like, there's not any iron, it's nickel,
which is that's what we make Voyager one and Voyager
two or nickel, and we have to separate that from iron.
So like the idea that comments have iron, because in nature,

(37:30):
to get nickel, it's with iron in order. On Earth,
when we started realizing iron was more flexible. And remember
that astrology is connected with alchemy and metals, so you
have to remember that with iron, to get nickel, you
have to separate the nickel and the iron, and for
humans to do it, it's an extremely difficult process. It's
not like you just do it in the lab in

(37:51):
your house, right. So to get just pure nickel and
separated from the iron to make it more flexible and
stuff is a process. So for the fact that this
thing's not showing iron, which it should if it has nickel,
unless it's mimicking what we do on Earth, which is.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Of aluminum two as well.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, I mean it's it's also interesting. It's a lot
of co two with a little bit of water, right,
So it's not like, but what's crazy in alchemy? And
I don't know if you know this about nickel, that's
not part of the alchemical original science in metals, but
when it was discovered in the seventeen fifties, they called

(38:34):
it devil's copper nickel. And I just think that's really
interesting because it's like not natural, right, like the idea
of separate to create just nickel, it has to be
separated alchemically speaking. So what makes it weird is why

(38:56):
is it only tracing out nickel? That means something unnaturally
is separating it from iron.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
A propulsion system. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't know that, or yeah, I mean, or it's
wrapped in nickel, right, Like that's what's weird. As Voyager
one of Voyager two, which are out of our solar system,
out of the heliopose and everything, like the timing of
all these events in twenty seventeen, same time he gets
pictures of Pluto in twenty eighteen. Right, It's like everything

(39:34):
is lining up with finally to like this event. And
I think that when you look at history, these are
the events that you know. Okay, the Church is separated, Okay,
but that was a big deal a thousand years ago, right,
and they haven't come back together since. The Eastern Orthodox
Church is still doing its thing and the Catholic Church.

(39:54):
But I don't know if you just saw it. Last week,
Charles the third, the King of the United Kingdom, went
to the Vatican for the first time a monarch since
Henry the Eighth, the exact same astrology as this last
week was when he got excommunicated Henry the eighth from

(40:14):
the Catholic Church and married Amberlin and left the Catholic Church.
The same freaking astrology, exact, dude, exact. It took this long.
And now Charles the Third went back to the Catholic
Church last week and was with the Poup with a
divorced wife, just like the astrology of fifteen thirty three.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Is it because of aliens? I mean, is it really? Well?
I mean, so you understand, yes, it's like everything.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yes, then I think it's more than the pr of
the government. I think it's the religious institutions are getting
together because I don't know if you saw too the
Templar Knights showed up at the Vatican now too in
May and now they're showing up and now that's like
eight hundred years of history with that. So that's now

(41:07):
chill and five four hundred and ninety years of you know,
the Church of England and the Anglicate Church being separated.
Now you have Charles the King just in this last week, right,
Henry's it is great right now? What what with his gouty?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Right? Like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Right? And so it's like but to me, I'm like, oh, oh, okay,
what it's the same astrology, which is mind blowing, mind blowing,
Like to get Pluto at the same spot and Neptune
at the same spot is very rare. Those are the
two farthest planets out. Last time that happened was fifteen
thirty three July of this last two weeks, the same
thing of the excommunication and the separation beginning and the

(41:52):
Amberlin Secret wedding and Henry being like, all right, I'm free,
we could do this, we could leave them. Now, Charles
going back. But to me, it's like, why are they
all coming back together. It's like, to me, it's the
church pr right, So the Catholic Church. Then you have
the Anglican Church of Church of England, which people forget

(42:13):
the monarch is the head of the church because of
that big change back then. So you have the heads
of the biggest churches getting together and letting five hundred
years of separation and excommunication and not talking to each other,
no big deal.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, and secret societies you know.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
And correct and then the templar nights after all at
thirteen oh seven and all that happened there, Oh, no problem,
come back and they were in the Vatican and they
willingly walked in there with the red crosses like in
their in their white gowns and stuff like, yeah, let's
go back in the.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Vatican Friday the thirteenth. It's okay, it's in the past.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
So there's something going on where it's like, we have governments,
obviously with a lot of issues, and none of them
are being addressed on the people level. So that's a sign.
Are they going to address to the people what we
need to hear about what's going on up there?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Here's why I say yes, you want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I would love to hear it.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I'd love to hear your opinion. This is how David
and I talk when we're alone. By the way, it's
the same conversation. The same conversation. Is this, There isn't
a better way to cover up bullshit than with other
big news, right if you know you just mash everything down.

(43:43):
What if you really want to just hide all of
the drama etser here, that'll that'll that'll cover up the headlines,
won't it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, and all the problems, I mean big problems, affordability,
food economy, poverty, economy, I know all of it. Yeah,
And that's where you know what, I agree with you
because it's weird because that's also not going for the people.
It's distracting him from the other stuff too. But it

(44:17):
is we need to know these things. But that's kind
of like their last card to play to try and
stay well, come through us. It almost feels like the
pandemic again, Well we've got ets, but come through us.
It's like, what, like, that's where to me, we're in
the astrology of where somebody like auv Lobe, whether you

(44:37):
like him or the way you don't. These are the
times where you open your mind and you still use fact.
What people don't realize with Avi Lobe, he's using facts.
He's not trying to make it up in his han.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
He's driven by data. He was his mouth doesn't move
unless it's supported by data.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah. I mean he's the only guy too. When something
came in to our atmosphere and land in the ocean,
found the people the money, the researcher went down there
in the bottom, pick it up and see what it was.
I mean, you know, we're in a world where Lewis
and Clark are gone, like the this is our Lewis
and Clark moment, bigger, this is this, This is us

(45:18):
discovering what we've all wanted to discover. And this is
the closest thing you could even get to. And we're
what the best is We get to just sit and
watch the show, right, We get to watch the show
and be and and let it guide us, right like
let it let's let's see what it does. Because by

(45:39):
it by it blowing everybody's minds, especially in the science community.
Because the consensus at the beginning was this is a comment.
It's going to act like a comment. Well, an anti tail.
That's not normal even as an astrologer that studies comments
and asteroids, right, Like, what I, as an astrologer, I'm
gonna have to, like, you know, call up thousands of

(46:02):
years of ancient modern astrologers who are dead, who've written
all about comments and be like, what do you do
with it? With the with the tails facing the sun?
What does that mean for the planet? It throws everything
off as an astrologer, right, It's like I'm having It's like,
astrologers have to create new data, right, and astronomers have

(46:23):
to create the understanding of new data. And that's where
there's a nice blend. It's almost like if you can
see the head of the Monarch of the Great Britain
come back to the Vatican, then maybe astrologers spiritual you know,
people that still use science and facts and the science
community can come together again, start opening each other's minds

(46:46):
the way it used to be, the way it And
I think that this is the event that does that.
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Here's here's the other part. The skeptics that have been
you know, attacking our community for forever, right, I truly
don't give a shit, but those skeptics if this turns
out to be artificial, that this is a probe from
another you know, advanced civilization. If it turns out to

(47:15):
be that, and I think that the odds are pointing
in that direction, that's my If I'm a betting man,
I think it's et. But if it turns out that,
that's what the announcement is. The Neil de grass Tysons
of the World, the Lawrence Kraus's right, Mitio Kaku, that
Brian Green, They're all going to go, well, of course,

(47:40):
there's We've always said that there was life out there
all right now before this. No, they there's no way
for them to get here. It's it's too far away.
That No, there's never been any evidence of this. You watch,
it'll be of course there's live what's the big deal.
You watch that, that'll be the response from science.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, and that's the that's the irony is because this
is if we study comments they go around the Sun,
this thing also is not going around the Sun. It's
just passing by it, right, It's not gaining. So this
also kind of throws you know, the ideas of Newton's

(48:24):
laws of gravity alpha.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Exactly what it does, that's exactly that.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Right, because now there's not this thing isn't going to
slingshot around the sun. Right, It's like, I don't care.
I have enough propulsion to say, nice to see you,
but bye, and I don't need your help. And I'm
on my own tour. I'm on my own tour. And
how many how many galaxies? How many solar systems? How

(48:51):
many suns? Has this thing gone by? Right? Like that?
Nobody could guess that one right now?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
But that's what makes this so oh evidentially beautiful to me,
because it's like, to me, the idea of what et
is is something that's doing things that's impossible in our
idea of reality, especially in space and on Earth as above,

(49:19):
so below is the old expression that right now, as
the world's feeling like we've never felt before, as below,
as above, something showing up that's never felt like or
seed like anything that's been done before.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
What do you make of what you take in the
size of this object, because now it's also aside from
everything else, it's freaking huge.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, and it's heavy too, that's the other thing, right,
it's I mean, this thing's like thirty three billion tons, right,
I think that's the other thing. Object wise, is like
we keep seeing asteroids. Of course, exoplanets have been fun.
That's been like the last five seven years, right, really

(50:08):
been like focusing on exoplanets, and a lot of those,
again are a little bit more data driven assumptions of
what it is than us actually having a picture and
like look at this right and its movement and so forth.
It's not like these exoplanets were watching them go around

(50:30):
the Sun. They're just drawing models up. So I think
that's where to me, I'm like, it's interesting to see
that this is changing everybody and no matter what you
are to space, whether you're astrophysicist or a planetary scientist
or you're just a connoisseur and love our galaxy and

(50:52):
the wonders of it. The attention now is interstellar outside
are are our existence to the farthest places we don't
know much about. But you would think that something that
big want to be so perfect, and how it would

(51:14):
shoot through and come so close that means there's something
it's trying to say or show or guide us towards,
or it's gonna throw us way off course and change trajectory.
And when we come around the Earth on the other side,
is that they coming closer to Earth. I mean we

(51:39):
That's where this is getting really interesting. And the assumption
based off looking at astronomy is when an object gets
closest to the Sun, that's what they're predicting is because
there's so much mass energy. Now we've seen massive CMEs
over the last couple of days leading up to this
on the backside of the Sun.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Those Yeah, we have two nights of that, two nights tonight, and.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's just been they've been. If they would have been
earth facing, we would have been questioning whether or not
we'd have internet.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Or this show here.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
There's another interesting aspect of this. Before we headed the break,
very smart researchers looked at the trajectory and where possibly
the origin or the direction out of our star system,

(52:36):
and it pointed back to the originations of the Wow signal. Yes, now,
how many things do we pile up on this pile
of shit before we back up and go, Okay, there's
something else going on here because the Wow signal and
that origination, the sky's a big place, right. That felt

(53:02):
a little funky to me. What did you what do
you make of that data?

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I mean, I thought that was really interesting because it's
one it goes back to I think nineteen seventy three,
and to me, that's where it's like an anomaly frequency
wise with so much energy just gets set to us
and there's that's not normal right then at the same time,

(53:30):
now with three A at lists, as it goes in
the same freaking area, it triggers right like there's frequencies.
And that's what's crazy is we need to start science
doesn't even probably have all the instruments to understand what
we're looking at and hearing or even vibrationally frequency wise doing.
I mean, I think it's great because you're a radio

(53:51):
host for a long time, Like I feel like we
need to get everybody out there with every radio signal
on to be tuning to frequencies and maybe been pushing
the idea of the band farther than we've ever even
thought it could go.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Exactly right, exactly right. And what do you make of
you know, Sagittarius? I mean, what's interesting about Sagittarius? If
if three I atlas and the WOW signal both had
origins out of Sagittarius, what does that tell you?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Well, I mean, the reason that's that's one of the
most interesting. That's the Southern Cross area, and of course
the galactic center's there. The biggest sun in our whole,
entire Milky Way is down there. Black hole, black hole.
We've been the stuff. We've been seeing that. That's also weird.
Right as we've been discovering the black hole stuff. That's

(54:44):
only the last couple of years where we're it's like, oh, okay,
right right now, we're seeing that this thing also didn't
get sucked in or did it come out the black hole?
I mean, that's like where we start going into maybe
did it travel through the black hole the other side
like the white hole idea too?

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Right, yeah, yeah, expelled expelled, so expelled data, you.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Know what I mean, and so old astrology and ancient astrology, sagittaries.
Of course, it's Jupiter's ruling over that sign, which is
where we expand knowledge, and it's massive expansion. It's massive
about trying to understand our wider world. It's the house

(55:33):
of knowledge, it's the house of where. It's a fire sign.
It's a centaur, half man, half horse, the combination the
archer that's aiming higher in our life, but the combination
of our wild nature and our human nature. And so
to me, the idea of like a wow signal, A three,
A at list, it's opening us up to word more

(55:54):
than just this how we see humanity today, we use
for thousands of years look up to humanity and the
wonders of this world. And it's like, I feel like,
as a planet, it's like people don't believe in that anymore,
and believe enough, we need it as a collective, get
back together and start believing in ourselves and our awesome

(56:15):
nature and the awesome nature that we're here to expand
and learn from and go and keep seeing. I think
that's the big shift of the planet that's needed. Everybody's
you know, keeps worrying about how we're screwing it all up.
I think it's more like we're screwing up by not
having that awesome power of willing to seek more knowledge

(56:35):
and to be more expansive and to even get back
into that idea of just wonder about things.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Exactly exactly when I asked Lawrence Kraus, I go, dude,
so what would you you know, Lawrence, Let's just say
it's artificial. Let's just go with that, and that happens
and as is, and as it cruises by us. It uh,
it reaches out and says hello on the radio. You

(57:04):
know what his answer was, Instead of like whoa, yeah, okay,
but that'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be interesting. Yeah, that
would change things. He goes why would they use radio?
And I'm like, wait a minute, is that the question?
Is that? Is that the question you have instead of right?

(57:24):
Instead of yeah, they would use radio because we're the
hillbilities of the universe. That makes sense. They know about
our technology, and you know, they'd reach out and just say, hey,
we're cruising by. Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Instead of the Solar system speaks and frequencies.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
It is so funny. I mean, we could.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Record the sounds of planets and what they sound like
frequency wise. They all have a different frequency are Earth
and its frequencies sound frequencies, it's like everything, how's a
frequency to it that's unique?

Speaker 3 (58:06):
And that's see that right there. That is the wonder,
the ponder the considering, the dreaming of things. You got
to think outside of the box of what the possibilities
can be. Don't close the box in. You know, the
academics of the world, David, they build these fences and

(58:31):
they don't realize that building those fences, they're closing themselves in.
You're not blocking the world out. You know, the opposite
happens when you choose to live your life that way.
Take down those fences and let your mind go that
every great advancement in science happened because somebody.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Did that, right, And even if you think about it,
how is Voyager one and Voyager two communicating back frequencies?
Like why did we put gold records on those probes
full of our languages and music and the Beatles and

(59:10):
all this stuff? So my answer back to him would
be like, well, why did the science community send back
things that could be played on a radio out there?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
You know what I mean? Like, why did we do that?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You know, because that's the one thing that for sure
if you were to think of any et that you
could communicate. Our brain puts off frequencies. The Hindus have
known this forever that what we connect with from us
above below is the frequencies to the top of our
crown of our brains. Our brains are they have to

(59:50):
distribute so many millions of frequencies a second all the time.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
It's when when I look at anything specific and when
I say anything, I truly mean anything. All right. Today
we accept the quantum world, the quantumness, the microist of
the micro. We accept that we can't see it. You

(01:00:22):
can't see it, so you have to think outside of
the box about what is there. And this was argued
about in the world of physics for a very long time.
You go back to the ancient Greeks and they were
talking about Adams, you know, two thousand years ago. This
isn't anything new, But that's thinking outside of the box.

(01:00:44):
Penicillin thinking outside of the box. Galileo going against the grain,
Copernicus going against the grain, that's thinking outside of the box.
Isaac Newton everything he was outside of the box, not
only with math and and everything, but of course uh
Newtonian physics and and gravity, but his religious work, hermeticism,

(01:01:09):
and his work in the arts. That completely just thinking
outside of the box. Because you have an inquisitive mind.
That's what we've got to get back to. And you're right,
three I at lists gives us that opportunity, doesn't it.
Think outside of the box. That's going for it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And I well, it's funny because when you bring up
Copernicus and Galileo and to be so against what everybody
had been ingrained in how they experienced this reality. Right,
but now you still have people who believe in flat Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Then whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
If people want to believe in that, that's fine. But
three A atlasts explain that on a on a on
a flat earth solar system, right, Oh you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Got to go there? Why do you got Why do
you got.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
To I because because what it does is it goes
to the next level that we're The three ailis is
opening the door to more than that we're in a
heliocentric sun centered universe for us in our solar system,
it's going to open the gates to something we were
probably not ready for, of the out wider than that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I think we are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I mean I think we are, but you know what
I mean. Like, but when you talk about the academic
community kind of whether it was you know, string theory
and all these theories of cosmology, this is bringing cosmology
into the forefront massively because it's like we never nobody
was actually predicting interstellar objects, right, Like that wasn't part

(01:02:43):
of the cosmology. Now it is. Now It's not just there,
it's also we have as a as an asteroid that
didn't act like an asteroid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
And yeah, it sped up, slow down, turned right, it
did everything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah yeah, And now we have this which is doing
the opposite, but it's doing crazier things. It's going, I
don't need to even use you, son, and I am
gonna propel without you. And I'm just cruising by and
I'm at the exact same ecliptic plane as all the

(01:03:20):
planets in the Sun except for Pluto, which is kind
of funny because I'll say this before your break to
give people the tease. We're in a rare moment of Pluto.
It just went in declination out of bounds past twenty
three and a half degrees. Now, in history, when this happens,

(01:03:41):
this is usually where we see this kind of dystopian
nightmare of our governments that we're seeing right now, and
people kind of freak out. The irony, though, is that
this pattern is about to break and go over one
thousand years without Pluto going out of bounds. But what
Pluto goes out of bounds? So it did back in

(01:04:03):
seventeen seventy seven into seventy eight during the Revolutionary War.
That was like, and then it did when we saw
and found Pluto. It was like in the mid thirties
we saw it go out of bounds in the Sign
of Cancer, where actually, ironically, these same spot three a
outlis is going to end up by the time we
get to January and February, but now is our last

(01:04:26):
time of seeing it right now, and then a thousand
years it's not going to do it. And what's interesting
is that we you know, Pluto is not a planet
by these people anymore, yet they're so obsessed. They took
a pictures pictures of it in twenty eighteen, and I
think it was just because they thought it was going
to be the X planet X and the biggest planet

(01:04:47):
in nineteen thirty when they took the picture, and then
every decade it got smaller and smaller and smaller, so
they kind of were like, oh, we live in a
world where who has the biggest suv? Who is the
biggest feet?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But what's it's crazy is that Pluto you could track
it and that's where the events really of the world shift.
For it to be out of bounds right now in
a very rare moment. It's kind of weird because it
just went out of bounds like a month and a
half ago and that's really when people started paying more attention.
And so this is a really extremely astrological rare window

(01:05:21):
where when it's super south the declination and it's just
come out of the bounds. We call that when we
look at declinations, especially if you're looking whether it's tropically
or whether you're looking at either centrically or geocentrically, is
this and the moon does it. It can go to
bounds when it's in the north and the south right,

(01:05:44):
especially in the areas like we see, but Pluto's does
it when it gets to where it's at right now.
And every time, so whether it was fifteen thirty three,
whether it was seventeen seventy seven, seventeen seventy eight, or
twenty twenty five, when it does the this little blip,
the world changes in dramatic ways. And in this little blip,

(01:06:07):
the world's starting to change with this thing that's showing
up absolutely amazing.

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host Uman Church. Tonight, the Leo King David Palmer is
with us talking about wealth, cosmology, astrology, history and of
course three I Atlas and David, let me ask you this.
We all feel and are experiencing the craziest shit like

(01:10:50):
ever in the history of the Earth. And it's all
happening right now at the same time. It's truly nuts.
And then we have this happening at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Why well, I've been on your show a lot over
the last four or five years, and you know, a
lot a lot of astrologers have pointed to this moment,
the fall twenty twenty five into twenty twenty six, as
where we reach some call it whatever they want. I

(01:11:24):
like to say that we've reached the maximum amount of
energy that we could handle. And right when we think
we've reached that, something's going to come and just pop
the lid off it, all right, Like we're at critical
maths energetically. So the last time we saw this with

(01:11:48):
the planets was back in the thirtept fourteenth century, and
this is where conjunctional astrology began and that was how
they predicted like the Black plague, when you saw all
these planets come together and form stelliums. So twenty twenty
was about stelliums. Another way to look at it, if

(01:12:08):
I were to have you look at the planet sometime
heliocentrically for the last five years, all the planets at
certain times of the year, are all of them are
on one side less than one hundred and eighty degrees
of the whole entire zodiac. So that puts it into
perspective that like right now, it's only Mars and Venus

(01:12:33):
that are kind of by themselves on the other side. Okay,
but when you get all the planets on one half
of the zodiac and there's not one planet on the
other side, it feels lopside. It's unbalanced, it feels there's
too much energy. So the idea of like the Wow signal,
but with planets right, they're all together and so it

(01:12:57):
becomes really concentrated and can so and it concentrates just
on all these areas, and what happens is it feels
like there's a void. There's an emptiness that we're all
trying to understand. Look at view and that there's nothing
holding any space in such a wide area of space.

(01:13:17):
From a planetary point of view, that's pretty wild if
you think about it, because the planets all have very
different timings in their orbit by Earth years that we
gauge it in. But for these rare moments to where
all the planets form and hang out next to each other,
and year by year are all so close together where

(01:13:40):
there's even times where it's only within one hundred and
twenty degrees, every planet, including the outer planets, have been
next to each other, and those move slow, so you
have to remember it's like, wow, that's rare. We're in
a rare moment. Well that's popped up again. But twenty
twenty six is going to be to where we're not
going to be seeing that anymore in the summer, so

(01:14:03):
of course this is happening. Another when I was talking
about planets going out of bounds in declination. So if
you think about it, what makes a lunar eclipse or
a solar eclipse is that when we see it as
a total, there is no difference. They're exact in the
opposition or in the conjunction to block the Sun on

(01:14:24):
a new moon, solar eclipse or on a lunar eclipse
to be exact. So there's no variation in the declination
because of right of ascension when you're dealing with the
Earth and when you're looking at it from Okay, we
know the spaces of the vernal equinoxes, we know the

(01:14:45):
spaces of the solstices. We also know our ecliptic where
we see the planets and we see fixed stars. What
can happen though, is some planets. The moon is the
best for examples on a planet. It's a moon. It's
the only object that can and go past twenty three
degrees up to six plus degrees more. And so for

(01:15:05):
what makes a unique about eclipses is the Moon is
perfectly in harmony in the exact not just degree but
also the declination and the plane to be able to
be that way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
And its size and its size is correct.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And its size change is based off the equinoxes and
the timing and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
So we're at a moment out of Pluto's orbit around
the Sun. Only ten percent of that two hundred and
forty eight years does it go out of bounds of
the time, and it only does that in when we
experienced the nineteen thirties when we found Pluto when it

(01:15:50):
came up. So what's interesting is we couldn't see Pluto
because it wasn't even close to planetary understanding of when
we're looking at it from the planetary plane, from the
sun right in the ecliptic plane. Because it came from
south and finally hit the north in nineteen thirty, we

(01:16:12):
were able to take a picture of it and found
it in twenty eighteen. The reason why they took pictures
is because it it's going into the underworld and our
telescopes nothing's going to be able to take pictures of
it it goes too far south. But when it goes
out of bounds, now, that's where the planets kind of

(01:16:35):
act like defiant alone, like I'm gonna go do what
I want now. Some planets don't go out of bounds,
like Saturn hasn't gone out of bounds in thousands of years, right,
Neptune hasn't gone out of bounds either, So there's some
planets that don't do it, but they used to. When
you do the math going thousands of years back. For

(01:16:56):
the fact that Pluto is gonna stop going out of bounds.
So if it's two hundred and forty eight years around
the Sun and it's going to spend the next thousand
years not doing that, that's five to four rotations around
the Sun where it's not going to do ten percent
out of bounds. So that's an anomaly of the math shifting.
Something's changing on top of that. The last five and

(01:17:18):
a half years you've seen actually it's been really twenty eighteen,
but really coming into twenty nineteen twenty twenty is where
it was like, man, all the planets are just in
one spot. And that's why it felt like forever to
get out of the the whole pandemic idea right, just
because everything's going to take time to spread apart again
and move and open around the whole entire solar system

(01:17:40):
again to where it's filled back up because everything's been
so condensed. So I would say, if you look at
it planetary wise, solar system wise, we have anomalies happening
more than you can calculate. So when I looked at
three A at lists and I did the math, and

(01:18:01):
then when I heard Abby Lowe say and reflect as
an astrologer or an astronomer, that would be obsessed with
like the planets and their orbits. For this thing to
come the way it has at the same plane blew
my mind that I heard him say that, because that
was what I was thinking in my head, like this

(01:18:21):
is you don't see this, And that's I think the
clearest indicator of that this being et that because the
natural bodies of however the Solar system, came together. We
don't have the cosmology to know that. We don't know
if it's a big bang, for sure, we don't know
crap about it, but we do at least know the

(01:18:45):
facts that are always happening, that the ancients recorded and
that our scientists today still don't dispute. This throws all
that to where this is something different and new and
nothing has ever been seen like this. Yes, in the
replacement of where it came from.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I always ask you this question, but it's probably more
important now than ever. Is Vetic and Western astrology saying
the same things right now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
I mean I would have to. I listened to a
couple of Vedic astrologers. I mean, we're just looking at
the planets differently right, tropically or side reel, So there's
another twenty three degree just change with the planets are
twenty three degrees backwards because all side reil astrology is

(01:19:38):
is like if you look at where the equinox is
where we start the spring, and you were to look
at the backdrop of constellation wise, you see a twenty
three degree procession of the equinoxes. Right, So the equinoxes process.
So if you were to go two thousand years ago,

(01:19:58):
when you were on around March twenty first, yeah, it
was the beginning of aries, but the procession has been
going on because of the wobble of the Earth. Right, So,
Vedic astrology those different. They don't include outer planets, they
don't take in new objects. So you have to follow

(01:20:20):
what the sanscripts said by astrologers that were ancient thousands
of years ago, and you're not allowed to break. So
it's kind of like religion to me, medical astrology because
nobody's allowed to change it. We're Western astrology is the
correct term. We love advancement, we love science. We love

(01:20:43):
what's happening in the cosmos. What's happening with an asteroid,
what's happening with all these asteroids, Because we've been finding
lots of asteroids around us that are revolving around the sun,
and we're tracking them as astrologers, and astronomers are tracking
them and we're including them as bodies, and so you

(01:21:04):
know that that's where it's hard for I think of
vedicastrologer to really go into this without it being just
prophecy stuff like the Collie yugas and kind of thinking
it more like time wise. But they're not like looking
specifically at certain things. They do have a prophecy though,
about a great comment that comes with like three different

(01:21:27):
tales and different colors and like that's the end times.
But don't quote me as that being the exact verbatim
sanscript Vedic version. But that's my translation for you, but
to me, if you're not going to include there's no
Vedica strologiers bringing up three atlas because they're not allowed

(01:21:47):
to bring in anything new. Plus that you use really
old charts as far as they don't really get obsessed
with precise degrees, the nations and the terms that are
actually used as astronomy. They're using really old charts and
they're more into the whole house system.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
So they are my I have two Vedic astrologers that
are friends of yours that I consult with a lot,
and usually and I'm gonna say, I'm going to say
this very candidly, very spot on, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Oh very much. I'm not trying to I hope people
know I'm not talking crap on it because.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Actually I love that I'm not. I'm not either. And
then I go with my other friends out there that
do western like yourself, and I feel the same accuracy.
It's really really weird how how the data is pulled

(01:22:58):
out where the day it is the same, but looking
at the sources and the causality come from two different places,
but pretty spot on. I really, I'm fascinated with astrology.
A good astrologer is just amazing, just amazing. If you

(01:23:19):
track it, and you know what I have on my
phone here, I'll show everybody. Let mean, let me pull
this up. You know what, come on, go away? Can
you see it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah? An apple that is exactly where it is, like
we're satured neptuner about to meet. That hasn't happened since
eighty nine, but it hasn't happened there since forty three
sixty one BC.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
And I look at this every day and you would think, well,
it doesn't change. Oh, it does, and David's right, especially
in the early twenty twenties where everything was grouped right here.
All the planets were right there, and it was fascinating
if you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Look and you you could even run it on I
think it's called sky h I had it up earlier. Yes,
scot the Sky Live and they have the three A
atlas three D chart. You can type in the date
January twelve, twenty twenty, the date Saturn Pluto met. And
that was the moment where COVID they released the whatever

(01:24:19):
the the Chinese released. This is COVID right, like the
whole like whatever. It's called the genome right right. And
that's also when we all start of being like, what
the hell is what's going to happen? And that as
astrologers that were pretty good with prediction, we were all like, yeah,
watch out for January twelve, twenty twenty. I would stated

(01:24:39):
for many years January that's the date that the world
will change, the plague's coming, weird stuff like that. Three
this was right there, HM. So as it shifted over
the last five years to get into the very beginning,
well the end of Sagittarius tropically to come in, it

(01:25:04):
was with Saturn, Pluto. In that whole group of planets
and the exact alignment with the Sun Earth, there was
a lunar clips Mercury, Saturn, Pluto, Sarahs and now three
Eye Atlas. I couldn't believe it. I was like, my
mind blew. I was like, gee, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Guess who's guess who's in the chat. I just looked Esperanza,
what's up? So David and Esperanza sent texted me a
picture of them hanging out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
I know, it's crazy. She came up and she told me.
She's like, oh, I love Jimmy, I know him, I
know that these are friends. We take this pic and
send it to him. I'm like, hell, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Well, I was like, man, you guys, you guys. But yeah,
she's in the chat. She says hello, and she's amazing
too as well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
She's a great astrologer. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Who it's really good. So I'm going to ask you
some direct things and at least, and I've been meaning
to do that. I think it's all important for us
to have an understanding about what is going on is there.

(01:26:23):
I do understand what you're saying. Sometimes we have to
go to the edge of the cliff and take a
peek and then and see where we are at and
into the unknown right And it's a it's a it's
a harsh thing to do, but we all have to
do it. Where you're in the dark and you've got
your foot out right in the dark and you feel

(01:26:43):
the edge of the cliff and you're like, shit, it's
right here. Well, I think we all know that that's
kind of where we are right now. What is the
immediacy of this? Are we going to take a pretty
fast corner here as as things clean up and or

(01:27:07):
is it is twenty twenty six going to be one
of those things where we have to write this out
for for quite a long time. I mean, what's the
immediate outlook?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I don't want to sound cheesy, but it's gonna go
very positive one. So usually I'm always like, we need
to watch out. I'm hearing I'm saying we've reached the
place where, hey, don't be too scared because actually it's
going to go good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Yeah, you never hold back, you never hold back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
I don't but this idea of like a new world, okay, now,
I know it's on the spiritual community around even John D.
Threw it around during the last Golden Age that Elizabeth
threw right, Okay, but really on your phone you can
see Saturn and Neptune or the last of these big

(01:28:00):
planets to conjunct. Okay, over the last six years. That'll
be coming up since twenty twenty. But they're gonna meet
at zero Ares, which is the start of the whole
astrological chart. Religions based their passover Easter all based off
that beginning spot. We even based in science and astronomy,
that's the vernal equinox spot, and that's how we gauge

(01:28:22):
different zodiacal understandings, right or even on Earth, the season's changing.
The fact that'sat in a Neptune haven't met there since
four thousand, three hundred and sixty one BC. That's prehistoric history.
But what they've found, and they found in twenty sixteen,

(01:28:43):
I had to do the history to find like what
was going on then they thought it was just hunter
gatherers just started, but there was the beginning of migrations.
Then they found in like Serbia, the Varna gold So
for after Darwin came out with his theories, right, the
idea of evolution and especially the hunter gatherers. They thought, yeah,

(01:29:06):
they just cook and eat and they just throw spears
and whatever. But then they found this very rare finding
where there was this guy buried with gold more than
the Egyptian pharaohs had. Right, you should look it up sometime,
Varna gold. Yeah, okay, And it blew all of the

(01:29:31):
archaeology's understanding of one, there was no mining of it, right,
so there was no mining operation. Two this guy's wearing
it and even like on his skull, like where his
third eye is, he's wearing like more than any rapper,
more than any pharaoh. Like the dudes like become like

(01:29:54):
wanta beat Trump and trying to overdo the gold at
the White House, you know what I mean, Like it's
just too much. It's it's not a good luck. But
it was kind of weird because the other human tribes
around prehistoric history that they've searched was nobody else had
gold either, So like why did this matter? Because it's

(01:30:21):
like where did he get the gold? Why were all
these people migrating and start this was the beginning also
of people coming together to start agriculture ironically, and so
why did this guy just have all the gold? And
is like He even like looks in his grave as
if he was like, you need to serve me, or

(01:30:42):
was he trying to like maybe serve because prehistory after that,
we don't good luck having a history book or anybody
give you the real history of those times prior. It's
kind that's a void. That's a cliff that, that's an
empty void right where it's like the history's not really

(01:31:06):
written and there's not much we can find there. He
is right there, that's insane. Right, that's sixty five hundred
years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
So that was the one historical You know, I'm an astrologer,
So I go, Okay, last time the planet's met in
the spot, what happened. I've never had to go to
where I'm like desperately searching to find something, because when
you get that far back, it's really difficult and also verifiable. Right,

(01:31:38):
I don't want to go off some story. I don't
want to go off. Well maybe it was written on
a tablet, but we don't know. Did somebody just make that,
because there's a lot of that stuff happening. No, that's
a real skull. Real gold doesn't make sense. The other
thing was that was where they started realizing which d

(01:32:01):
the idea of the different races of humans. That's where
they started from the bones of the exact same time
period defining the different races of human beings on the
planet is from that period that they look at archaeologically,
because that's for some reason humans decided to start moving around.

(01:32:26):
So the idea of a new world, to me is
kind of like what happened prior to that some either
a somebody said, are you humans, go out and explore
your little new habitat. And by the way, this guy's
a charge with all the gold we gave him. I'm
not saying that's true, But the irony about what's about

(01:32:49):
to happen is a new idea of the world and
what it is. So to me, if three a list
makes a turn, does something different our idea about the world,
it's going to change forever everybody's idea of the world. Right,
So that's where to me, it's like the next ninety

(01:33:11):
days and to one hundred and twenty is the actual
conjunction on February twenty twentieth. But a lot of stuff's
happening here that's ending thousands of years of cycles and
beginning a completely new one that's been sixty five hundred
years in the making, and so to me it's like

(01:33:32):
these last days. And it's ironic if you follow three
a at less and where the math is for at
this moment that we know of it gets the most
spectacular in my opinion as an astrologer, to be able
to have a telescope see it by also it passing
by Jupiter, just like it's doing with Mars and actually
go to where the pyramids point to and everything and
us have an amazing view. And there's so many planetary

(01:33:54):
alignments that are exact in the Solar system with three
a at lists at that time period coming in January
that that's literally right before we go into that big transit.
That's the last one that kicks off this idea of
what is this new world that it's too perfect synchronicity wise,
that obviously three out. This is a message that's gonna

(01:34:17):
be brought to us whatever it's doing or whatever it
points to. And then we see something because we're looking
at it and we see something else. Whatever it is,
it's part of this new vibe that's coming that will
that will take us out of the beginning of migrations
in the world we've lived for sixty five hundred years,

(01:34:39):
because I feel like we've come to the endpoint of
like what the story was for humanity. That's why people
feel like it's so crazy, right, And what's missing is
the new story and the wider story that has tons
for us to fill in. The idea that we think
that we're done is just stupid in my opinion. No,

(01:34:59):
we're done with the old kind of story. It's time
for us to evolve to the next level. And I
feel like the astrology now says it's time for us
to really define who ari where did humans come from?
Are we from this earth or not?

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Don't you think? Don't you think for me? And I'm
ready and I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
You look at the history, then why did they Why
did humans around the globe at the time, which was
less than one hundred thousand people. Why did these people
just all at the same time get the same message
to start migrating and start connecting and moving around right?
Why Like they can't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Describe that, well, I'm ready, So they got to say ready,
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
But there's no recorded of like it was intercellar object
or supernova. But maybe there was something that augmented it sure,
or something that got them all time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
That's all they did was look to the stars. That
was their that was their one hundred And that's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
What we're coming into, is like something that gets us
all to move in a different view, going could it be?

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
And I think that we're ready for this, and I
this isn't a drastic controversial thing to say. It gives
us the opportunity for real as Earthlings to step back
and go, Okay, there's a lot of bullshit going on

(01:36:26):
on this planet, the stuff that should not be going.
It's time to grow up, you know. Do you see that?
I see that as an opportunity. Okay, David, you just
change cameras. Oh you can't hear me. Now, go back

(01:36:46):
to your old camera. He can't hear me, David, Go
back to the old camp, David, go back to the
old old camera. He's trying to change, He's trying to
be me. He wants to be me where I can

(01:37:09):
do all of these fancy things. But he just changed
cameras and he's lost his audio. David, what did you do?
It's almost like it's almost like, what did you do?

(01:37:41):
Switch back? Does anybody there? Now? He's back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
I don't know what happened, but I lost audio from you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Yeah, and it looked like you were in a different shirt.
There's a timeline, time shift, time loop. Can you hear me?
Do do do? Do? Do do? And now if anybody
was can you hear me? No, he can't. If anybody

(01:38:19):
would ever wonder if this show is live? Now they
know U David, You've got to switch back your audio.
See David's really he is. He's a tech. His studio

(01:38:40):
was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
I can't hear anything.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
No, no, nope and nothing. I haven't touched anything, David.
He's got this amazing studio and I'm let me see
here now everybody can hear me? Right, David switched back?

(01:39:05):
You're audio? Oh he's leaving and coming back in. All right,
I'll keep everybody posted. This is what One of the
things I'm cleaning this up waiting for him to come

(01:39:27):
back in is this. Just look into my eyes when
I say this, This show is live, This show is
never taped. The edge that you get from doing a

(01:39:48):
live show, doing a tape show and edit and people
put out the podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
What you know?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Okay, all right, there's a time and a place for
that this is live live, and there's an edge that
you get with that. I have taped maybe two or
three shows over the years. I had to because the
guests just couldn't do it and we had to fit
into their window. David, can you hear me? Nod your head, David,

(01:40:16):
can you hear me? Now? You can't hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
I can't hear you for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Oh, okay, now you have yeah, you have you Okay, Okay,
you have reset. Okay, you've muted your microphone. Unmuted your microphone, no,
unmuted from your end. Okay, now talk okay. So this

(01:40:49):
is what's going on, David, tap on your microphone like this,
it's off. Okay, So down at the bottom of the
screen on the setting that sprocket, you've got to reselect
your Okay. Now now we're good. Now you can hear me. Yep, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
I don't know what that was. The three A Atlas
was sending a wow signal to me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
With your big high brow studio, with all your black magic,
Noiman microphone camera lenses assistance.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
It's never happened to me. And I'm on the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Oh Man. So but back to this, and I think
It's an important point that with everybody, and I'm not
planning a flag here, we all feel the pressure. We're
all seeing it. It doesn't matter what country you're in,
what belief system you're in, what political thing you're in,

(01:41:51):
what job, your family, your it doesn't matter. Everybody is
feeling it, seeing it. The media has taken advantage of it.
Social media has taken advantage of it. People are in
their bubbles, but also they are feeling it directly all
the way back into their homes. This isn't something that
is just on TV and doesn't affect you. Everybody is

(01:42:14):
affected by this. And then you throw in the astrological
part of this, and that component is this pressure and
this energy going to pass and is their hope? Instead
of everybody being locked into fear and getting their emotions involved,

(01:42:36):
they need to understand that there's something else going on.
And I think that three I Atlas gives us an
opportunity to rethink directly who we are and what we
want to do with our own future. That's what I
think three I Atlass presents to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Us very much. I don't know when I lost you,
but I was saying that we've just reached the end
of the story of humanity. It's this news story now
the wider story. It's almost like we're kind of saying
goodbye to the prehistoric version of humanity we don't know
much about, and now it's about to find out the

(01:43:15):
answers of what humanity actually is and really define it.
We've never defined what humanity is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
No, And you know what we do do. I'm glad
that we think we have the ability to think like this.
We look at if there is an advanced civilization out
there on a planet, and we look at all those hypotheticals.
You know what we do that we don't do with us.

(01:43:47):
Say the planet is called apple planet, Apple planet, orange planet, Pineapple.
Those are the people of planet Apple. We're not looking
at the religious lines, the boundaries, the they No, they are.

(01:44:09):
That's it. And here et looking at us is going
to look at imaginary borders, imaginary political systems, and hatred
and happiness and religious backgrounds, and this how we are
still primitively divided as a planet. We are not Earthlings.

(01:44:30):
We don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Anyone Ronald Reagan's un speech at eighty eight might just
be correct, right, not maybe not in a war, but
just the idea of et bringing us all together.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
We used to have that as the foundation in the
fabric of the United States, right, right, that we were
all different and the beauty of this you know, that
we would have one hundred different countries bringing in immigrants,
and one hundred different two hundred different religions, free trade,

(01:45:11):
free trade languages, and that's what made this country great, right,
And that we are all Americans, and that all of
that else. That's what we need to do now with
planet Earth, you know, And maybe three i atlases is
that catalyst. Man, maybe history will look back and will go, man,

(01:45:33):
it was three iye atlases when we turn the page.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Yeah, because there's you can't hear another debate that's gonna
shift some people. Right, It's like the same patterns really,
orbits of planets are patterns, and three a atlas is
a pattern disruptor. So so if you think of it astrologically,

(01:46:02):
the patterns of Mars every two years, the patterns of Venus. Right,
she goes around really fast, faster than Earth, but she
only retrogrades right where we see her cross in front
of us every eighteen months. Right, that's the moment what
we call, of course, the Venus retrograde every eighteen months,
but it's really just Venus passing Earth. These are patterns

(01:46:27):
that we see and then we see Venus have to
do that in the same place every eight years. We
could do the planetary thing all day, but with a
pattern disruptor coming through. That means on Earth the pattern
something has to be extraterrestrial, which is technically the term

(01:46:47):
terrestrials here on this planet. So I sometimes people forget
the basics. These are words that have been used for
thousands of years. We described people didn't use to college
place Earth all day. It was the dustrial or terra
you know, like that was more commonly used than what
we say today. Oh I live on Earth. You know

(01:47:08):
that's kind of more new. But our ancestors used, right,
the understanding of the terrestrial. You're on the terrestrial plane,
and I think the only thing that can shift that
as above so below is a pattern disruptor above.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Wouldn't it be cool? Wouldn't it be cool if three
iye at Liats just pumped the brakes, maybe a U turn,
and came back to Earth and just parked. Holy shit, right,
I mean how cool? I was talking all weekend my
phone blowing up on three I at lists and all

(01:47:49):
of my friends, you know, want to talk about it,
and I totally get that, and they want my opinion. Well, David,
I've told everybody the same thing. I think it's et
I I truly do. I think this is a big,
big moment. It's like if it will what if it

(01:48:12):
turns out to be a comment. I just don't think
it is. I don't know. I would love for it
to have three comments at the same time. Yeah, that's
that's great, But I just don't think three I atlas
is a comment. I just don't And this whole thing lately,
and I don't know what to do about the different

(01:48:35):
rumors and the things that are happening, because you don't
know if these are leaks from the inside. You don't know,
you don't know what you know, but that it's be
being a radio signal now and it's there's.

Speaker 7 (01:48:46):
This it's hollow, and I, you know what, I follow
the science and then for me, I mean, people could
do it on their own and go to JPL and
run it on their terminal and put it in and
then whichever system you want to run it in as
far as like from a helio perspective and where.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Is it going to be? For me, of course, I
was the astrologery who put it in as a as
a geocentric tropical system to let people know where it's
at and to show how we look at planets where
it's going because it's on the same plane, and to
give a people a different viewpoint of it. Like I

(01:49:29):
think people have to just kind of like all the
tools are out there. They're not even that hard. Took
me to like ten minutes, Like it was just like oh,
JPL okay, run on your terminal and then just like
put in the object number, okay, and then what do
you want? How many how many years, how many months?
Which date? Where do you bom? And so for me,

(01:49:51):
I do my own little investigations and I go, okay,
it'll get busy around this time. I said, way back
in August, I told everybody, Yeah, this thing will get
really hot when it goes right over Mars, because it's
gonna be from Earth's point of view Mars conjunct.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Three a atlas.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
And I'm like, that's when it's gonna get hot. People
are gonna start, what's this And that's right when it
happened really started getting hot. Now I'm telling people that
it's gonna get to me more hot the end of
this year than even this week. I think this week
might make people feel, oh, maybe we didn't We don't know.
We haven't seen anything yet. I mean, it's on the

(01:50:32):
other side of the sun. I'm not saying that nothing
won't happen, but it's more like, what where it's going.
The aspects it's making are astronomically almost impossible in everything
aligning with it in such a way that when we're
getting around the holidays into the new year, that is

(01:50:52):
when our minds are gonna be blown.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
What do you think we have the capability to get
real imaging?

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
I think we do. I just think that they uh,
I mean, I just I just find it really odd
that at first the science community kind of was like, eh,
I mean, thank god, there's a guy like Aviy Lobe
picking up the phone and calling every single person and
governments and everything and saying, get whatever you got on

(01:51:26):
this thing. I mean that you got to be a
mover and shaker to make things happen. But now that
you know, the traditional idea that it was a comment
has kind of been blown out of the water. Now
you're actually getting people who have always stayed in their
lane going okay, I want to see what happens. And
that's how you know it's different that people with uhamuha

(01:51:50):
didn't want to even believe even right, like even oh, okay,
it's emitting light every eight hours because it's spinning and
it's that means it's a flat surface reflecting the sun. Right,
those little things they didn't want to get into that.
But this one they're like, well, it ain't. The main
thing is that we were able to see it farther

(01:52:12):
out than what you can see a comment right like
past Jupiter's orbit. That's crazy. That means it's not a
comment because it takes the Sun to be able to
drive the visibility of a comment and to create the
pressure and to burn off what's on the comment, and

(01:52:32):
it has to use the gravity of the Sun in
order to even be there. So, like the comment Swan
that's here right now, that's six hundred and fifty years
transit for that comment to come by the Sun. Ironically,
as three a atlas is here six hundred and fifty
years later, since it came by the Sun, it's at
the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Strength. I know, I know, I know. I just feel
that the questions that have been raised by everybody on
both sides, it doesn't matter, same questions are there. Well,
those questions are about to get answered in forty eight hours, right,

(01:53:15):
it's going to be Wednesday and Thursday. Big, big things
are going to be answered. And I don't know how
the scientific community is going to deal with it. Again,
always data driven, in fact driven, but then what do

(01:53:38):
you do when those facts go against your foundations and
your cognitive dissonance and what drives you and what you
don't want to see to you don't want to have
your belief system and your faith in the math that
you have in astronomy, right and cosmology.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
And that's what happens. That's what happened with Galle. Oh,
that's what happened with Copernicus. But it even happened during
the Great Schism, Right, we're not going to talk about it,
even though it's in front of people's faces as we're
schisming as a church. I think that's the problem is
not just in the science community of faith, but faith

(01:54:19):
in religions and so forth, because if it's going to
throw Newton's law of relativity, especially with planets out the
window as far as like that, not everything follows the
same math.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Doesn't mean that he's wrong when it comes to certain
planetary objects or things in our solar system, but it
just means that there are things that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
Could throw that off right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Right. It's the same way in religions or anything like that,
because it starts bringing things farther out then we're commonly
known to know and questions about our origins or what
was here before us, or were we here before them?
Or who all those things. And unfortunately, the scary part

(01:55:05):
is people that hold on to tight get really scared
of losing their faith, and that's where things get shaky.
And I think that's what we're seeing in our government today,
and that's why it's like all lining very religious when
it was never supposed to, you know. And I think
that's why we're seeing all the church stuff happen at

(01:55:26):
the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
It's all it's all happening at the same time. That's
the crazy part, man. It's just it's like, you know,
you check the news every two minutes to see what
other crazy hashit has gone down. Not every day, it's
like by the minute, right, now and you know what,

(01:55:49):
you know what this reminds me of. And I'll wrap
up on this. This is nearly page for page, word
for word, Uh, Arthur C. Clark's Rama Books, right, Oh yeah,
I mean it's spot on Rama, right, Rama, the Gardens

(01:56:10):
of Rama, all of the and how Rama appeared, and
how it was tracked and what it did and its
speed and its size and where it came from in
a trajectory. It was interstellar. All of it is just
like Arthur wrote about, except for we don't know if

(01:56:30):
we're in the second half of the books yet, right,
But the first book was about this object approaching and
coming into our star system and and and what it's
doing and what what our thoughts were behind it because
we weren't in communication with it, and and that was
I think the Rama ship is was half the size

(01:56:52):
of what this object is. But it's weird how it's
playing out the same way, and how the world is
reacting and the governments are reacting and science it's all
just like page for page out of the Rama the
Rama Books from Arthur's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Clos Yeah, or he was like the narrator, but he
was part of the project of colors of infinity in
the eighties where they were looking at trying to understand
visually what infinity meant, right, and that's when they came
up with the mandal Brought set, remember that and R. C.

(01:57:28):
Cark was part of that, and they the colors of
infinity and being able to see that nature isn't built
in any geometry at all, right, that things are that
are human or not human, meaning have intelligence that's physical
in some form, that nature itself. There is no degree

(01:57:52):
angle for a tree, right, Every tree is unique and different.
Doesn't build in straight lines. The idea that God doesn't
building straight lines really is what they proved, but that
you can so the idea of where you get and
the idea that oh it's got a flat surface that's
not natural comes from that verified science through the colors

(01:58:14):
of infinity, the Mandol broad set and Arthur C. Clark
was part of that. It's like I used to be
on acid and watch that thing all the time my mind,
you know, every time. But that's where we're at because
this is not something that would be in the Mandel
Brought set that would make sense. It's not natural, it's
not organic that organic life just connects and flows and

(01:58:43):
it also is infinity. As you see that, it looks
like a Buddha, the Mandol broad set, remember, and you
just keep zooming in and then you see all the
It's fractal geometry is the technical term, and how fractal
geometry just keeps forever. But things that we build or
create don't do that because it couldn't. And so the

(01:59:07):
way that this thing's acting is unnatural, and that means
that it's not And then Terrence McKenna was part of that.
And Terrence McKenna said, through all of his experiences in
the jungle and at the end of his life that
the message that the mushrooms told him at the end
was that when we are about to go to the stars,
that the crazy things with authoritarianism, fascism, the hunger world,

(01:59:33):
hunger wars and people and the planet acting so crazy
is a civilization of humans ready to go to the stars.
That's like one of his last big messages to the world.
I don't know if you remember.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
That, I do. I do. It's strange right now. It's
strange that you brought that up, because I thought about
Terrence all weekend, really, and I haven't thought about him
in a while, and uh, there were reasons, That's why
I jumped into that, but I just went and you know,
did follow it up on some stuff and I've got

(02:00:06):
a bunch of his material and I went and checked
it out. And then tonight you bring up Terrence McKenna.
I just loved that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
Weird because archer d clerk him because he was doing
time wave zero at that time and he was able
to prove through his using the fractal geometry and the
I ching twenty twelve and go, this is when it's
going to begin, right and that time with the Mayan
calendar stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Yep, it did, and he wasn't using.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
The Mayan calendar. That's what was crazy. And that's all
the same documentary about fractal geometry and the Mandala set.
So it's like and then he he was like, after
twenty twelve is where the window opens because we hit
it's like a zero point, right, a critical mass point.
And if you've just seen where we've been with the

(02:00:55):
space technology since twenty twelve and where we're at there
just to now, oh my gosh, to even be able
to see this or just the pictures they just verified
in the fifties when we didn't have anything up. We
didn't have any nobody had anything up. The Germans of course,

(02:01:16):
were done right, but the Russians didn't have anything up.
And there's lights in the sky that they finally have
released the pictures of. I'm sure you're already reported on
this recently from the late forties and the fifties, that
they have pictures of all these lights that don't make sense,
that shouldn't be there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:37):
Well, we're right on the edge, man. This is an
exciting week high Vibe TV which the links are below
and also up in the chat, and then of course
the Leo King dot com. The links are up in
the chat David.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Or hypergate dot AIS. That's I built the astrology AI.

Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
Finally it's so badass hyper ca eight dot AI, Hypergate
dot AI, Bill, Jessica John get that up in the
chat for everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Thank you so much, David, all my best for you
and your family and thanks, and I really enjoy calling
you Dad. All right, and keep doing your thing. You're
the best.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
I guess I'll go get you that dark course Dad. Dad.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
Thanks, you've got my address. I'll talk to you all right.
Thanks man, David Palmer, the best, Love you, brother. I
love you David Palmer now his links are below. What
a perfect show and a great way to start off
this week. It's crazy. It is going down here worldwide

(02:02:43):
this week. Of course, October twenty ninth is is one three.
I Atlas achieves its moment of exposure to us in
this world as it comes around from the back of
the sun and reaches perillium. It's going to be incredible.
It's an incredible I want to remind everybody tomorrow night
it is Halloween week this week. Tomorrow night, Brooke Ashley

(02:03:06):
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but the history of Halloween, all of that and much more.
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