FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Nicola Farmer

Tonight, researcher, teacher and medium Nicola Farmer joins us to discuss the ICU Academy and working with children and their Psi abilities... an amazing conversation!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:29):
This Hope Radio for the Masses.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Headline of this July eighth, nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
The Ladi Airport has an outstart applying this purty found
and there's now in the possession of the Arda.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
The game is really changed, the game change. I occasionally
think how quickly our difference is worldwide would vanish if
we were facing an alien threat from outside this work.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
This is Day to Black.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, good evening, how you doing. How you doing? It's
fade to black. I'm Jimmy Church. Today is Tuesday, November eighteenth,
twenty twenty five, a day that will go down in infamy.
That's right. Yeah, In case you didn't hear it, the
House has overwhelmingly approved the release of the Epstein files today.

(01:38):
Congress did it earlier, the Senate did it unanimously this afternoon,
and that's where we are right now. Don't do politics
on the show, but and I don't think that this
is a political thing. It's not a partisan thing. So
it needs to happen, and it appears that it is

(02:00):
all right. What are the other updates before we get
into the show. Great week on the show. By the way,
is it didn't rain today? Yeah, oh, it rained a
little bit, and the streets are dry, sidewalks are dry
for the first time in a week. But there's another

(02:20):
side to this, which is it's going to start raining
again tonight and we'll continue throughout the week. Yeah, Harley withdrawal,
like for real. Renee sent me an email today she said, Jimmy,
you said on the show that it rained a foot
in Palmdale. I did not, Renee, I did not. I

(02:42):
said Los Angeles. Sah, you know, we got less rain
here in Palmdale, still a lot, you know, three inches
or something like that. And yeah, yeah, Renee always busting
my chops. She's so good. She keeps me in check,
but she doesn't listen closely all the time. Ninety nine

(03:06):
percent of the time, she is absolutely one hundred percent correct.
All right, great week on Fade to Black. Last night,
Callum Cooper was with us. Also last night, Callum was
live from the UK. That's right, and so is tonight's guest.
Nikola Farmer joins us. She's amazing and she runs and

(03:28):
is the founder of the ICU Academy. So we're going
to be talking about all of that in her work
and the psychic abilities that's right, are the Paris psychology.
There's the psi abilities in children, and so we're going
to jump into that tonight and her work and other
stuff too as well, because she comes from England where

(03:53):
all the cool stuff goes down, So we'll be talking
about that. Tomorrow night. Massadi is here and Tomorrow night's
going to be the Near Death Experience and we're gonna
go through all of that from top to bottom. Tomorrow
night deep dive into the ND and then Thursday night,
Julia moss Bridge is back with this neuroscientist and we're

(04:15):
gonna be talking about her new book and disclosure. The
book is called The Disclosure Process, and that is Thursday night.
So we have a great week coming up on the show.
My next event coming up is in February the Conscious
Life Expo, and that is February twenty through the twenty third,
twenty twenty six at the lax Hilton. Just go to

(04:38):
Consciouslifeexpo dot com for tickets and information in everything that
you need to know. All right, all right, let's get
tonight's show started. Nikola Farmer is here. We're gonna be
talking about the ICU Academy, where she has children develop
intuitive abilities and learn to see beyond the physical senses,

(05:00):
something that I talk about a lot on this show.
It is absolutely amazing and you know, seeing more with
their eyes can see, which are her books and the
magical light of Leora, not only those subjects, but for me,
I mean, because that's the stuff that we see forward

(05:22):
looking into this. But are we all born with this?
And then do we lose these abilities as we start
to become an adult right because we don't know, we
don't practice it. Nobody's out there to guide us through this,
and she also has We're going to introduce the School
of Luminosity, the SOL so we're going to do that

(05:44):
tonight too as well. She's an internationally acclaimed spiritual mentor.
She's a psychic, spirit and trans medium. She's a healer
and consciousness teacher, and she has been on everything which
includes Netflix and guy A TV and international docum memories.
Her links are below on our website and throughout social media.

(06:04):
I would like to welcome for the first time to
Fade the Black Nikola Farmer. She's right there, live from
the UK, bright eyed and bright eyed and bushy tail
how you doing. You're good.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I'm good, considering it's three am.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, absolutely, Hey, do me a favor. Tap on your mic. Yeah, okay, okay,
just just checking, just checking. Bring it a little closer
to you if you could. Okay, Well, everything is fine, okay, movie,
there's no reason to spend any time on this, Nikola.

(06:43):
Let's get the first time guest disclaimer out of the way,
which is this, so we can start the show the
next time you're on with us. You don't get the
first time guest disclaimer, but you get it now, which
is Nicola, is just you and I sitting on my
couch having a conversation and his friends and where that
conversation starts, it starts, where it ends, it ends. But

(07:04):
we're gonna end as friends, all right.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now you have to accept, I fully accept.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
All right, let me do I have to do one
thing here really quick, if you don't mind. Right before showtime,
the dreaded we must restart your computer thing happened. Yeah,
and it was just like, okay, here we go. So
I just gotta kind of redo things here just a

(07:35):
little bit. You just heard my intro on the show,
and I have such a huge interest in this. First off,
I'm a parent, right, and I looked at my daughters
closely as they were growing up for a few things.

(07:58):
As a parent, I wanted somebody to come into the
living room and say, you know, so, what are you doing, honey,
I'm talking with my secret friend. We're having tea. You know,
my invisible friend is here. I never got that, you know,

(08:19):
I was so looking forward to that day. I never did.
I never had tea with their invisible friends. I never
got that out of the way. But as we start
this discussion tonight, let's do it. Here. Is everybody born
with these abilities? And do they fade away over time?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, everybody's born with them, Jimmy. It's a natural part
of human consciousness, and we see it in so many children,
especially today, because they're just coming in with you know,
full disclosure, they're coming in with you know, past life memories.
That every child is born with those abilities, and it

(09:01):
is lost over time because of the interaction with the
left brain. So as soon as they start education and
the left brain is stimulated to think perceptually, then that's
when these natural abilities start to fade.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
And would they not fade if somebody was there to
teach absolutely.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah. Yeah, as you introduce the ICO Academy, we find
that the children who go through the program seem to
be keeping these abilities for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, there's some rumbling going on. I don't know if
you're moving stuff around in your desk with your microphone? Wow,
where's that coming from?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Huh, are you guys hearing that? That's weird. It's not
coming from me.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I can't hear it.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Okay, keep your hand still. Let's do that no matter
what you're Yeah, it can be louder than your voice.
So just so yeah, yeah, they're saying that they hear it. Okay,
so it's not me. Yes, low frequency rumble yet's keep
your hands still, okay.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Um.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I think that when I look back at my own
childhood that there were definite signs and things that I
didn't recognize as a kid that were certainly paranormal. There
were things that were going on, and it was right there.
But you're a kid and your imagination is running around.

(10:43):
As an adult, when I look back, wow, I was
right there. But even though I had my crazy mom,
I was kind of left to my own as a
kid and out doing my own thing. But I see
it in myself. Do you think that parents or adults

(11:03):
today can look back at their childhood and go, you
know what, I might have had something going on. I
wish I would have changed things.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, I have it myself.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I look back now and when I.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Was younger, you know, things that would happen in the house,
and you know it would be put down to dreaming
or you know, something utterly ridiculous. But yeah, a lot
of parents can look back, or a lot of adults
can look back and literally see those things now because
they're in everyday awareness.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Right, well and today, Right, you're a medium, you're a psychic,
you deal with site, right, all of these things with you.
How did you start to develop these and have you
always had them?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, like I said, we all have them from a child,
but mine sort of faith did to a degree through
my adulthood. But twenty years ago I started to have
dreams with my sister. My sister died when we were younger,
and she appeared to me in these dreams, and I
knew they weren't just dreams because we were talking about
things that had happened after she died, and she was

(12:17):
bringing them up as well. So yeah, it began with
the dreams with Sarah.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And what was she saying?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So we were talking after she died and I started
to train as a competitive swimmer, and in these dreams
she'd come to me and she'd say, you know, I
used to watch you when you were swimming in certain places,
and it was just remarkable that she could talk to
me about the things that had happened after she died.

(12:49):
She was talking about my new grandson that was coming,
and you know, he was born a year later. It
was incredible.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
What did say tell you?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
It tells me there's a greater thing out there than
the human mind, for sure.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Was that the turning point for you? I mean, I
ask everybody to think about and consider one thing, and
that is what happened when you went somebody is lying
to me about this world? You know? For you? What

(13:29):
was that moment?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh? That was in school?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
What happened? What happened?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So I went to a Catholic Convents school and religion
was obviously a very big part of the education in
that type of schooling, and I questioned everything in the
religious classes, everything, and at that point they told me
not to come back to the classes anymore. I could

(13:55):
have a free lesson when they were doing the religious teachings.
So that was the very very first step, and then
the second step was the dreams.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I had something very similar when I was a kid.
First grade might have been kindergarten, but first grade going
to this Catholic school in Chicago, which is you know,
it's all Catholic there. And in the we would go
to the library and now this was in the sixties,

(14:28):
and they would I'm much older than that. Look before
you say, wow, sixties, you're not that old. I am.
They would you would put on headphones and you would
listen to a story or an instruction. It was always
religious based. And I remember I was I was listening

(14:50):
to this story about Now I'm going to offend a
bunch of people, but I'm listening to the story of
Moses floating down the Nile River and getting found right
and brought it. And I'm listening and I'm serious. I'm like,
I'm like six, and I'm going this is bullshit, right,

(15:15):
you know, it just didn't sound it sounded made up.
And I was really really young, but I was I
was like that, who does this happen to? And I'm
not so sure about this? And I we took a
test on it, you know what I mean. I remember

(15:35):
all of this, and I wasn't. I wasn't buying into it.
But the doctrine starts at a young age, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh, it does, it does.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
And my big question was that it was about God
and that God would judge us in such ways. And
I called that out as well as as bullshit, because
it's like, you know, with supposed to be non judgmental,
non prejudice, and they're telling me that there's a God

(16:05):
that judges me if I do something wrong. It was like, no,
I'm sorry, this doesn't This just doesn't cut it.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
My brother Mike, he's no longer with us, he's out
there in the great beyond. But we were kids and
he was always a trouble maker. I was pretty innocent,
and I really was. I was always trying to do
the right thing. But he was. He was a criminal
out of the gate man. He just was. We were
really young and again, like five years old, six years old,

(16:35):
and the church was across the street from our place,
and I remember him going, we can do whatever we want,
and I said, what do you mean? He goes, man, Oh,
you got to do is donate some money, I said
to When they passed the basket around, that's where you.

(16:58):
Oh is that how that worked? Okay? But my brother
already had that, you know, in his head. I never
did it, confessional. I never did any of that, but
I do think about that today. Why do some people
do bad things but go to church on Sunday for

(17:19):
that reason?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Makes sense?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
For that reason. So they getting in a drive away,
going well, I'm cleansed, I'm good for another week. You
can do what I want for a week. When did
you start to put the research into not only I
see you, but psychic abilities and children?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
When it was after these dreams with my sister, I
actually went to an evening of clairvoyance and I spoke
to the medium there about the dreams and he said,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
They weren't just dreams.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I said absolutely, and I'd love to do what you do.
And he looked at me and said you would And
I was like, holy crap, where did that come from?
Because that was not my intention.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
And he said, well, I can teach you.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
And he started to take me out there into the
sort of as you call it, the beyond and taught
me to meditate and introduce me to other beings and
it was just incredible that that was the start of it.
And at the time, I had chronic fatigue as well,
so I was barely functioning as a human being.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
But it just.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Became a new way of life for me, and it
actually took me straight out of the chronic fatigue and
into a whole new realm of understanding that there's more
to life than going to work every day paying the
bills and I know they have to be done, but
it was it just showed me a whole new world

(18:47):
where I didn't have to conform because I've been a
nonconformist all my life. But that was definitely the turning
point there as well, because I opened up these abilities
that you know we're born with and it just blew
me away. And to be honest, Jarry, I've not I
fear haven't touched the ground for twenty years. I literally

(19:11):
have been so hungry for knowledge and experiences and everything.
And it took me through the development of my psychic abilities,
my ability to communicate with discarnate beings. It was a
whole journey of discovery and I love every minute of it.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
You mentioned your first time in meditation and being introduced
to beings. Who are you introduced to?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
So they're what we call the spirit eyes, but they
like to be called cosmic partners the day these days.
But I was introduced to a medium that had lived
here in the UK, a lady called Doris Stokes who
had passed over. And I was introduced to and a
lot of people will know this name in the States,

(20:01):
doctor Andrew Jackson Davis. And these were the spirits that
were coming forward to say, you know, we want to
work with you, we want to teach you, we want
to be part of your journey. And I didn't have
a clue who most of them were, but that was
the exciting part because then I just went down the
rabbit holes to find out who they were, what they did,

(20:24):
and the names were part of my everyday.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Life, like.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, dtor Andrew Jackson Davis, when you know he used
to do saless with Abraham Lincoln and he actually took
me on a journey of discovery through understanding what trance
mediumship was because he was an amazing trance medium and
so some of my best teachers have actually been in consciousness,

(20:53):
not just human teachers. So he took me down this
journey of understanding what it is to go into an
old state of consciousness and to create the blending of
two spirits, mine and another spirit, and then surrendering myself
enough to be able to hand over my voice to

(21:15):
them and give them the opportunity to have a voice
as well, so they would come through with philosophy and
guidance and you know various other things that I never
in my wildest dreams believed would be possible.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
But that's what.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Happens now, and it's quite amazing.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I used to, oh, man, all right, I used to UFOs.
Always an interest in times a kid right, dreams, always
into that, deja vous, always into that. Growing up from
a very young age, I've always been fascinated with these subjects, lackness, monster,

(22:00):
you know whatever, Stonehenge and the Pyramids in Egypt, and okay,
into all of that stuff. But I drew the line
at meditation, at crystals, at activation, chakras, pineal gland, third eye.

(22:21):
It's just like, man, okay, you guys do your thing that,
you guys have fun, whatever, and I wouldn't hang out
with that crowd. I just it wasn't my thing. And
then one day I'm with a group of friends, a
large group of friends, and they are going to do

(22:44):
some singing with some sound bowls in this medicine wheel. Right,
come on, Jimmy, come on, you know join us. No no, no, no, no.
Take your crystals, put them in your pocket, go do
your thing. I'm gonna go over here and hang out
with the with the with the alien grays. No, no,

(23:05):
come on. So I did, and I sit down in
this medicine wheel, and they start singing in the medicine
bowls and and here I'm gonna change cameras. So I'm
sitting there, do I And there's right they want to
hold hands, and I'm looking around. Everybody's got their eyes closed,
so I close my eyes. I'm kind of looking around

(23:27):
at everybody with one eye. Okay, am I doing the
right thing? And I'm saying all of a sudden woo
and so and this. I'm not going to get into
the details. The point is this, This pink veil comes across,
It comes from over here, comes across, and I am

(23:47):
someplace else for real. I don't know how long this lasted.
Let's fast forward. The music stops, and the singing stops,
and and and everything just kind of the fall is
lifted and I come out of it and I don't
know where I am. And I opened up my eyes
and I'm looking around at everybody. I'm like, what's going on?

(24:08):
What are you guys doing? Okay, okay, what are you
guys doing? Where the hell am I? That's going on? Hey?
I was so confused and I just kind of stood
up and and so Jimmy, you know, give me some space.

(24:30):
I need a minute. I couldn't even walk. So as
I'm getting my head together, I thought to myself, it's real, right,
this thing is real? And and what the crazy part
about this? And I want I want your take on

(24:51):
what I went through. The crazy part about this is
I didn't like it. It was unblo laevable. It truly
showed me something, but I was not in control right.
It grabbed me the universe and went shopp right, and

(25:15):
I didn't like that part. And since then, it's happened
to me a few times again, quite by accident, where
I'm not intentionally trying to do this, but it does happen.
I'm not unique, am I. It's like a first time experience.
But when you when you see how this is done
and what it can be. It's profound, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And I'm laughing because you know, there's some people who
walk this earth who, you know, if consciousness want to
get your attention, they could easily just tickle you with
a feather. And there are some people who walk this
earth who consciousness need to slap.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
With a brick.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
And you got slapped with a brick because your denial
and your your rebellion against everything that you know people
were believing in or you know, aligned with. You know
they were going to get you one day.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
They really were, and boy.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Did they And whether you liked it or not, it
was an experience that you'll never ever forget, and it's
one that takes you on another another discovery. Yeah, and
they happened that can happen spontaneously anywhere.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Really did it happen to you?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I've had some pretty amazing experiences, yeah, but not not
so much in meditation. I've had a few, but I'm
not a meditator. I I kind of lived my life
to the degree where I'm in a constant form of
meditation because I feel that connection permanently. But I've had

(27:00):
some really profound experiences, and that's been in an awakened
state as well. We were on a vacation in Egypt
and it was at Christmas and we'd been on the
beach all day and I said to my husband, I'm
going back to the room and he said, well, I'm
going for a walk.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, i'd been.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Reading and Eat Love, Pray or eat pray Love, whichever
way around it goes. And they were talking about the
Marla beads in the book, you know, the meditation beads,
and I was like, oh, that's really interesting. I'm going
to see if the shop in the hotel has got
some beads. So off I go and there was nothing there.
And I go back to the room and I start

(27:35):
to write a letter and I just put Dear God,
and I wrote this letter about everything I was grateful for,
and you know, it was just you know, pouring my
heart out onto this paper. And I folded it up
and I put it away, and my husband came back
and he had this really strange look on his face.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
So I said, are you okay?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
And he said, well, I just walked past the Intercontinental
Next Time Story, he said, And there was this camel
tied to a tree, well, because we were there at Christmas.
I joking, he said to him, were the three Wise
men as well? And he said, no, Nick, be serious. Okay,
So he said, and I will pass the camel and

(28:17):
I could hear shouting, he said, And I turn around
and there's this man standing next to the camel. So
I said, right, he said, and he beckoned me to
come back. So I walked towards him and he said,
I have something for you. And John said, I don't
have any money, and he said, no, no, no money.
You must take this. And with that John opened his hand.

(28:39):
He said this must be for you. And it was
a beaded bracelet.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Oh yeah, not that I didn't see that coming, but
I saw that coming, so did. What did you think
when your husband gave it to you?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I just knew that that greater beyond, that greater power
was listening, and you know, and it just doesn't surprise
me anymore. But I'm still in awe of it.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I don't know what it is about Egypt. I have
my suspicions, but I've had many very deep experiences there,
and each one of them I didn't expect it. I

(29:28):
didn't I didn't think that you know, that's what I
was there for. But yeah, yeah, Egypt is special. There
is something about it, and there's another there's another thing.
The children of Egypt are happy. Yeah, they're happy. It's

(29:51):
such a bizarre thing. Where we outside of Egypt around
the world is certainly here in the United States, we
have a different We are taught, i should say, the
propaganda on what happiness is, right, going to a good school,
going to a good house, going to a good college,

(30:12):
getting a good job, paying your taxes, getting a big house.
That that is happiness. Right. Okay, that's part of what
we're taught. But do you know where I'm going with this.
In Egypt, you're driving, You're out in the middle of
the desert. You're driving the middle of the desert. You're
driving by a farm, and you're looking out the window

(30:34):
of this very luxurious bus. Right, you're living the life.
And you're driving past this farm that's got literally a
donkey and a cart and a house and and that's it.
And you're looking at and that the kids see you
from miles away. And when that and when that bus

(30:55):
is what are they doing. They're running across the farm,
running up to the edge of the street, smiling ear
to ear and waving.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, it's because they are not living complicated lives. They're
not being doctrinated. They have the freedom to live and
be children. No, no pressures, no goals, nothing, And it's
very simple, you know. One of the I love Egypt,

(31:23):
by the way, I'm going again in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, me too, Me too.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think I've been there about fifteen sixteen times that
you know.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I get told.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
So one of my main cosmic partners, she talks to
me and she says, you know, you human beings haven't
earned the right to be called human beings. So she said,
you just don't stop, so we're going to call you human.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Doings goings, Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
And then and then she says, every human doing on
the earth has earned ad in complexity. And then she
laughs since she'll say, but you're supposed to have PhDs
in simplicity. And it's so true. You know, it's like,
why do we overcomplicate things? Why does it have to

(32:15):
be such a stressful life? Why do people have so
many expectations? You know, my philosophy and my teachings are
no expectations, no attachment to outcome, no obligations.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
And that sounds so perfect. It really does. Last night,
I'm going to jump into the ICU Academy. But last night, okay,
I just turned sixty two. I'm sixty two years old,
and last night this thought pops in my head, and

(32:54):
the thought was I am exactly the same as I
was when I was twenty two. Yeah, that was the thought.
I have the same thought processes, I think the same,
I act the same. I'm in a older body. But

(33:16):
I didn't jump on the adult bus. Right. What I
thought was being as now And I get it if
that's your journey, and that's your journey, and that's fine.
I missed. I missed the adult bus. I didn't jump
on it. I don't think act do the things that
when I was a kid that adults did, and I

(33:38):
can look around and see that today. I just no, no, no, no, no,
I refuse to grow up. I refused. I'm not tapping out.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, exactly. You don't have to, you know that, And
that's what I call being fully.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Aligned with You're in a child.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
You know, we have this concept about in a child,
But honestly, Jimmy, we don't have to grow up as
long as we can be responsible and as long as
we know the difference between right and wrong and we're
living you know, authentic life to the best of our abilities,
why should we I know, we have this, that we
have this life to live, and we should live it

(34:19):
with fun and joy and excitement. And you know, as
if it's Christmas Day. Every day.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I pay my taxes, yeah, I have my bills, I
have my adult commitments. Yeah, okay. The rest of it
is joy and.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Bliss and that's how it should be.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yep, yep, yep. What made me happy when I was
twenty two? You know, guitars, music, good food, and friends. Right,
That's that's my life today right there. That's it. It's
not no, no, no, no adult considerations. You know, now,

(35:03):
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Isn't that amazing that you had that at twenty two
and you have it now and that you can live
that life that you want And then there were so
many people out there that don't even know what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh man, that's where my empathy, that's where my empathy
just pours out of me. You know. I remember the
first time as many many, many many years ago, but
I had somebody come up to me. I was probably
in my thirties. Somewhere in there, somebody comes up and says,

(35:42):
I'm an EmPATH. And I kind of heard the word,
didn't know what it meant now looking back, and I
quickly figured out what an EmPATH was with my friend
because I could do something. I could say, I could
say anything, all right, I could say something like BMX

(36:07):
bicycle what And I quickly figured, uh, figure that out.
Now did she take it to the extreme? That was
just her, that was her. I wasn't in touch with that,
but I had it today. It pours out of me.

(36:28):
Oh my god, you know. And I can't control it either.
I can't. I have zero control. I don't break out crying,
but I do break out my wallet. I could tell
you that right now, I truly do. What is the
ICU Academy, now that we've laid the foundation, what is
the ICU Academy.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, it's a teaching modality, and it's not an un
actual physical school, but it's an academy where I trained
teachers around the world to work with children who go
through a twelve session program to understand all of those
things we've been talking about, but with also the ability

(37:12):
to see completely blindfolded, to be able to read, ride bicycles,
you know, do their everyday life with blindfolds on. And
you know, it never ceases to amaze me that, you know,
we take kids through this program and the blindfold reading
is something that you know is like the cherry on

(37:34):
top of the cake, but all of the ingredients that
go into making that cake and seeing those children literally
transform within a period of twelve weeks, Jimmy, it's more
than just seeing blindfolded. It's just a whole transformation for
these kids that go from zero to one hundred in

(37:56):
a very short period of time with educational experienceperiences, with
social experiences, family dynamics change, There's so many things that happen,
but you know, everybody kind of just sees it. I was,
let's let's get my kids through the program so that
they can see blindfolded. As I said, that's the cherry
on the cake. But I set the Academy up because

(38:20):
I knew that this world needed something where these kids
were given some foundations in life, not just to reach
for the goals, but to understand what they mean to
them individually. And we see that the transformations are just incredible,
absolutely incredible.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Where how does it start? When you're talking to adults
about this training, what's step one?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Step one is to really tell them that they're gifting
their child an opportunity to go through life with grace
and ease, to understand the dynamics of who they are,
not just who they see looking back at them in
the mirror. It's a program where the children will understand

(39:13):
what it means to be praised and to accept it
with the grace that it's given. It'll be there's scientific explanations,
there's educational explanations. You know, as the programmers developed, we
see the reasons behind why they're eyesich with the blindfold,
on why they start yawning. There's so many things there

(39:35):
that the number one takeaway is your child will be
gifted an opportunity to even be in the top twenty
percent of achievers in the world.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
You said, Eich, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So when they've got the blindfold, and we used to
think it was perhaps that the foam within in the
actual blindfold itself, but it's not so what happens And
it was an ophthalmologist that described this to me. He
used to be an eye doctor and he gave it
all up to follow his path. So when the brain

(40:14):
starts to compute that the child is reading but the
eyes aren't functioning, the brain then there's some sort of
confusion that goes on in the brain and it wants
to stimulate the eyes because there needs to be some
sort of logic, you know, perception going on here. So
the brain sends a tiny electrical charge to the eyes

(40:36):
to stimulate them. I believe it's called arking. And when
this charge goes to the eyes, the eyes start to
itch and they get watery as well. And I didn't
know this until this guy told me. So when the
kid's eyes start to witch, we get excited because we
can see the brain is now starting to because I'm

(41:00):
aware to recalibrate into a whole different perspective of being
able to see.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
That is fascinating. Yeah, okay, I'm going to drop something
on you. You ready go about I was gonna say
a year maybe six months ago. Yeah, I noticed something.
And that is every time, every time, without exception, every

(41:33):
time that I'd lay my head on my pillow, the
first time, my eyes itch and start watering. Now, now
I want you to listen. I thought it's a problem

(41:55):
with my pillows, pillowcases, and so I went through it's
about six months ago, three sets of pillows, actually four
because I got another set last week. Pillowcases. Washing, this
and that always every without exception, every time. So I

(42:18):
started reading into this and I read some stuff about
eye activation. Yeah, and maybe it's tied to dream sleep.
Maybe it's tied to that that my brain knows that
I'm getting ready to dream, which is sport for me. Right,

(42:40):
I love it and I practice it and uh it.
Uh so two days ago. Now, I've been thinking about
this constantly. It only happened the second I and I mean,
I've got to. I've got to, you know, I have to.
It's like it's crazy. So last week I got a

(43:01):
new set of king size down pillows, right, okay, really nice.
And you mentioned fatigue, chronic fatigue. So I buy the
new pillows and I laid down new pillowcases. Am I
started watering, and I go, well, okay, it's obviously not that.

(43:22):
Whatever it is, it's got to be tied to this
dream thing. My eyes are being activated, that's got to
be what it is. That night, I woke up in
the morning with these new pillows and I woke up
completely refreshed, like I slept like I haven't slept in
a long time. Really appreciated that every night in this

(43:45):
last seven days going to bed, eyes watering, eyes are riching.
But I've got fresh everything on the bed, So it's
not that it's got to be this. Now I'm having
this excellent sleep, and your brain knows this, you know
it's it's fascinating to me that you just mentioned that
because this has been part of my own research. Now

(44:07):
I'm going to divert this over to the chat. Does
everybody understand what I am going through and what Nikola
is talking about, because this phenomena is real and I'm
going through it myself. And to make this suggestion back
to me, how did the kids respond to that when

(44:28):
you tell them that this is okay, it's not the mask? Yes? Look, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Everybody is saying yes, So it's you know it's not me,
damn it. I knew something was going on. I knew it.
I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I
absolutely yes.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
If it was if it was allergies, you'd have a stuff.
He knows, your throat would be dry and croaky. And no,
it's part of you see. You know, the brain is
so important. Obviously, we've got to live, we've got to functions.
It's our computer, if you like. And we constantly talk
about the power of the heart. But the brain has

(45:13):
a consciousness that if we use it correctly, we can
integrate it with our spiritual development, our understanding of what
consciousness means. The brain wants to be involved. And so
when the kids I start to itch, we get excited.
We tell them, this is great, this is part of

(45:34):
your progression, this is amazing. But you know, when I
train the teachers, they say, well, what do I do
if my kid wants to scratch its eyes? You say,
hold the book with both hands, you know, hands occupied,
and that it is an exciting thing. You know, when
I train people to be trance mediums, you get something

(45:57):
called ram rapid eye movement, and you know, people say
they can feel their eyes flickering, and you know, things
like that. The brain is an integral part of our
human development through the spirituality and the consciousness levels, you know.
And with the kids as well, we work a lot

(46:21):
on integrating the left and the right brain so that
they can become logically creative and creatively logical. But the
most important part of the left and the right brain
is actually the mid brain, the limbic because that's where
the action happens.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Is that right? The first Caroline Cory, this is I
don't know when Superhuman first came out, but it was
probably seven years ago or so.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, on my work in that movie.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that comes out and
I'm fascinated with the subject, and and a bunch of
people that were in the movie were coming up to
me and and some other uh people that were doing imask,
and I was so fascinated. The movie itself is is great.

(47:14):
It's got everything in a remote viewing and telekinesis and
and and all of that PK. But the the the
mind sight part of it, seeing seeing without eyes was
so fascinating to me. So then I ended up getting
the imask and I went through it and and uh,

(47:38):
how do I say this? It can't be when a
kid is reading a page from Moby Dick. Okay, all right, now, Uh,
I've read Moby Dick. I've read Moby Dick a few times.
Kind of sucked, Actually, wouldn't I good? In my opinion?

(48:02):
So what happens, Well, guy dies trying to catch a Well, okay,
that's what I can tell you right now. I don't
have a page memorized from that book. No, you know
what I mean. And when I was watching it, I
was like, okay, all right, And then you get around
these people that go through the program, kids and adults.

(48:22):
But yeah, you can do it too. So I have
all the mask, I have all that stuff. Do We
all have that ability, even as an adult, to go
and see without your eyes.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
We do. It's much much easier for children. And the
reason why is because the children's left brains haven't been
developed to the extent of an adult's left brain. You know,
it's really fascinating because you know, I went, I went
to bed a few hours ago just to get some
shut hi, and I've never done this before, Jimmy. I

(48:58):
laid there and I closed my eyes and I said
to consciousness, show me what I need to see. And
I started to see through my eyelids. And I'm laying
in the dark room and I'm i'm I'm moving my
head around and I'm putting my hand in front of
my face and I could see with my eyes closed

(49:19):
in the in the dark room. Now, I've put the
blindfold on many times and I see the sparkles of
light that you know the kids see at first, But
I've never seen with the blindfold on. And I think
that's because you know, I've developed it and I've questioned
so many things within it that my left brain's got
too much invested interesting in the work itself. But I

(49:43):
laid there and I saw the room with my eyes closed,
and it wasn't from memory. So yes, we all have
the ability to do it. But one of the things
I say to every teacher that I train, and that
is we have to honor the sole purpose of the child.
So when they're going through the program, regardless of whether

(50:06):
they see or not, we have to honor that part
of them as well.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Can't do you have to be able to have vision already? No,
can a blind person adapt this.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yes, I have worked with somebody who lost lost their vision, right,
And that's the key thing, because you know, I do
believe further down the line we will be able to
tap into past life memories of what colors are and
words and letters, etc. For people that are born without
their vision, but people who have lost their vision, there's

(50:48):
every potential for them to see again.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I've proven it.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I worked with a lady I know who lost her vision.
It was purely experimental. But my big question is is
the world ready for that?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Well? I don't want to break hearts either. You know,
somebody that is blind and has lost their vision and
they're dealing with that their whole lives, and they haven't
experienced watching a dog catch a frisbee, you know, or
something like that that you know, and that's where the

(51:25):
empathy comes through. But I don't want to break hearts
or build ups. You mean, I can, I can see
without my I want to take this class. I want
to be able to do that. Well, I don't want
to What if it doesn't work. Can you imagine the
hope that you put into somebody and then they don't

(51:46):
They don't get to experience.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
This exactly that, And that's why even with the children,
we say to everybody who goes through the program, please
do not have any expectations, because expectation comes from the
left brain, and you're automatically including the left brain into
the program, and we're trying to avoid it as if
it's the plague. So you know, we have to be

(52:11):
very mindful of that. You know, the world is just
waking up to the fact that there's a possibility that
kids can see without their eyes, that they can read blindfolded.
Let's get this established before we move on to people
who have lost their vision. And you know, there might
be people listening to this now who wish they could

(52:34):
see and and yeah, tons of empathy, you know, because
this is something that is fundamental to be in a
human being. But I'm just not sure the world's ready
for the unveiling of the development of vision through blindness.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
There's going to be bad people that are going to
take advantage of it. There's always that element.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
There will, there will And you know something I've always questioned.
You know, there's lots of modalities out there where people
can learn to read blindfolded or see blindfolded. But what
I questioned, oh several years ago, was what sets the
ICU Academy apart from other modalities. And I put that

(53:25):
question out to consciousness, and the answer that came back
is because we're doing it from a heart perspective, that
we are not just using it as a party trick
or something like that. We're literally developing children to go
on to be those empaths, to be those you know,

(53:45):
super amazing human beings that will change the world.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
And that, to me is the.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
One thing that I maintained through everything we do with
the kids is that it's not a game. It's it's
not a party trick. It's a way of life. It's
a developmental program to get children to stay with those
natural abilities that they're born with.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
We've all seen that movie, right, We've all seen that movie.
Get the kids together, put them in an institute, right,
and let's develop the next secret weapon. And it's going
to be an army of children with psychic abilities. And
here's the flip side to that. I think that the
world is ready for it. And I'll tell you why.

(54:32):
Every time, nearly every time that we see a movie
with ET in contact. What is involved with ET. ET's
got telepathy. ET communicates through the mind, and they have
the power of consciousness and all of that is what
ET is about. And we are not there yet. Therefore,

(54:56):
we are not at the level of what ET is
and what our future is. I think that we've all
seen that movie, haven't we.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
We have, but all of those, all of those movies,
every single one of them, is teaching us about human potential,
every single one.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
But you know, how when.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Is it going to be that the masses wake up
and realize that you've only got to look at the
film Avatar? You know that was that was in the
making long long, many years before.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
It came out.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
And but again it was like, is the world ready
for something like Avatar? But let's just get it out there,
because the more people start to wake up and realize
that that we have so much more potential than we
see than we were exhibiting at this time, the quicker

(55:54):
the evolution of humanity will happen. And you know, there's
been leaps leap over the last two decades, massive leaps
in development, but we need more, you know, and you
know what you put out in your program and what
people are around the world are doing, it needs to
become mainstream.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Okay, okay, really quick, we'll set this up for after
the break. But what are the benefits for children aside
from seeing without your eyes? Yeah, but what are the benefits?
What are there? Because other adults have to hear this
and go okay, all right, all right, but what's in
it for my child?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
So they have the benefits? Are they grow in confidence,
they become educationally aware, they become socially aware. We've seen
children go through healing processes.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
We've seen I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Worked with a child who had dyspraxia. He was two
and a half years behind his reading age with his peers.
In six weeks, Jimmy, he caught up with his reading age,
you know, and then went beyond it. We've seen children
go from zero confidence to one hundred percent confidence, and

(57:17):
that's without them being precocious. This is about them being
fully self aware. We've had kids go on to become
you know, one of the kids I taught, he's training
now to be an Olympic swimmer. Now we don't know
whether he was going to be able to do that

(57:37):
or not if he without the program, but what he
lacked before the program was the ability to believe in himself.
And now he believes in himself to that degree that
he's training to be an Olympic swimmer. So the benefits are.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Vast, right, right, right, right. It's the hero's journey, you know,
it's the hero's journey where you find out that you
are stronger than you think. Then you know that you
can reach deep down inside of you and just get
it done where you didn't have that self confidence in

(58:19):
the self awareness before, but we've seen it over and
over again. It's like Froudo and Lord of the Rings. Right,
you know what I mean, the weight of the world
on your shoulder. I can't do this. Well yeah, you know,
obviously I'm talking science fiction stuff. But you know, like
Luke Skywalker or you know, you want to look at

(58:41):
an isolated case. Well yeah, right, you want to be
able to reflect, look at yourself and what are your capabilities?
What can you do? Dahlia, who is amazing? Right Dolly?
She said to me once again, I want to explore
all of this with ICU and you. I said, how

(59:03):
did how right? You know? And how does this get started?
And she said, you know when I teach people when
because you mentioned, you know, a parlor trick. Well, I
don't know how Dalia can go to a party and
not have somebody go hey, check it out. I got some,

(59:26):
I got some, I got some. I come on, you know,
I've got a Bible right there, I've got an imask
let's let's get this thing started. But I said, so,
how do you what are the first steps? And she
goes light. Yeah, right, you've got the imask on. There's

(59:46):
a light coming at you from a direction in this room.
Find it right now? That's baby steps right, that's exactly.
Is that? Do you teach adults the same type of process.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Or we don't teach adults.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
No, the adults are teachers, right, Oh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
See, yes, so it is a very similar thing. But
you know, the key to the adults that I teach
to be teachers is that we praise the kids constantly.
We never use the word no. We don't actually use
the word yes in the session either, and we never

(01:00:29):
ever asked them a question.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Why so, because if I say to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
You, Jimmy, how are you, your left brain has to
find a logical answer. If I say to you, Jimmy,
tell me how you're feeling, it can come straight from
the right brain because there's no question mark.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. One. If my eyes
are going to itch tonight, but it happened every single night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
But when I going back to the process and how
how teachers are going to turn around and do this
that itching? I think when I thought it was a
medical issue, I'm looking for crazy stuff living in my
bed and crawling in my ears. I don't know. I
was going down that road and when I went what

(01:01:24):
your brain is turning on your eyes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And the other The other important thing about the blindfolded
seeing is not third eye activity. You know, It's not
coming from the pineal gland per se. It is what
I call an outer consciousness connection that you're if you like,
your spirit, your out of consciousness and your human consciousness

(01:01:52):
are becoming one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
The Let's take our break, man, pineal glannel. Just get
me going down another road. But we'll do that when
we come back. Our guest tonight, Nikola Farmer, is with
us live from the United Kingdom. We're talking about kids,
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is worldwide. And I say that because Apple Today released
their podcast rankings. Okay, so they did. By the way,
Joe Rogan was unseated, he was dethroned. But there was
another They did their top ten lists. The number one

(01:08:47):
most listened to episode of any podcast in the world
was the Telepathy Tapes. How incredible is that? And what
does that say to me? That says to me that
the world, the world is interested in this subject. What

(01:09:09):
does that say to you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
It speaks volumes, because I mean for Kaijerkins, this is
this is just her dream come true, you know, And
and there is a huge interest out there. There just
hasn't been enough documented stories there hasn't been enough exposure

(01:09:33):
of what is possible and that that doesn't surprise me
in the slightest.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Well, the the other issue is mainstream academia has always
treated this as as woo woo and they don't want
to approach this. The world doesn't look at it this way.
Isn't it time for h the main stream world of

(01:10:01):
academics to start taking this extremely serious because it is real.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah, it is time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
But we know mainstream education is so antiquated that, you know,
the kids are being put through the dark ages through education,
and it is really time that education is revamped and
looked at from a whole different perspective. And I do
believe it will happen, you know. I know with the

(01:10:32):
work we do with the kids through the ICU Academy,
if we could get that into mainstream that would be
a game changer in education. But I know that the
route into mainstream education is going to be working with
kids who are most educationally challenged.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
So hog Warts is real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Oh for sure. Absolutely so are Jedi schools.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah we can giggle about that, but it needs to
start from the top down. Yes, the children. Of course,
of course we're toping that's the bottom up. It's got
to start from the top down, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, well, I don't know. I'm not sure I agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
You because you have the School of Luminosity. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Absolutely, that's for adults.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Yeah, I see you. You said at the beginning, well,
you know, I'm teaching adults how to turn around to
do well, that's always been my take. It's got to
start from the top down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yes, However, the children are our future. So if we
now look at it from a whole different perspective and say,
let's start at the bottom and work up, then it
can filter through. Because adult minds need to have that logic,
they need.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
To have.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
The ability to understand something. There's got to be a purpose.
But if we start showing the adult minds what the
children are capable of, it could go either way. It
could be down another route of fear that these kids
are going to be more intelligent than the adults, or

(01:12:25):
it could take us down a route of wonderment and saying, okay, well,
if this is possible, what else is possible?

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I have I've had the opportunity many times over the
years where I've had parents come up to me and go,
You've got to meet our daughter, You've got to meet
our son. He's amazing. And I sit down with these
kids and you know, you know, just talk and I

(01:12:55):
listen to the things that they say. Yeah, and I
look back at myself as a kid. I'm like, I
was making mud pies when I was your age. Yeah, right,
where is this? Uh? Where is this coming from? And
I step back and I say to myself, I think

(01:13:18):
I think there's been a fundamental change in our DNA,
that there is something that has been activated in kids
today where their level of intelligence and understanding is way
beyond where you and I were when we were kids.
I'm not wrong, am I? No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I agree?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I agree, But even making mud pies is using your imagination,
is doing something in its simplest form that these kids
that are being born now are are more highly evolved
than way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well, when we were.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Kids, I was sitting that we mightn't have it. It's fascinating,
isn't it. I was sitting I was sitting with you know,
with parents, right, the three of us are sitting there,
and this little just so intelligent, she was probably six, okay,

(01:14:13):
and she goes, well, you know, I have been shown
the math that connects consciousness into the universe. You know,
she says something like that. I'm like, what, that's what
you know, Nicola, that's not mud pies. That's a whole

(01:14:35):
another level of you know, and and what is going
on in the magic of their vision and and and
how they view the world. It's totally different than when
you and I were kids, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
But if we look at it from a soul perspective,
that these souls cut we come here, you know, to
have an experience, but these children are coming now. Their
soul is delivering the experience. You know, these are highly
evolved souls who are coming to change this world because,
let's be honest, this world couldn't continue going down the

(01:15:11):
path it's been going down because it would have become
a world of destruction. I mean, it's pretty close to it.
But these kids are choosing to come back into another
lifetime to actually show us what is possible, to show
us that we can evolve in such ways that this

(01:15:33):
planet could be something phenomenal, absolutely incredible. And their purpose
is so different to what ours was. You know, our
generations came to pave the way for these kids to come,
and we've been doing that for many lifetimes, but particularly now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
You know, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Working hard to get the word out they We're all
doing what we can so that these kids can have
a voice, These kids can be their true selves. These
kids can show us what is possible, and that's really necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I don't want to sound negative, but I just want
to say one thing. Yeah, I'm confused about light language
in both kids and adults. I'm not sure if I'm
buying what's being sold. And I have an open mind,

(01:16:38):
you know this, right, I have an open mind all
of this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Absolutely, light language is a confusing thing. What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
So I speak like language, I channel it, Okay, whether
it's channeled from my inner being or outer it doesn't matter.
Light language is not words. It's vibrations. So when you
had your experience with the singing bolls, okay, that was
vibrational medicine. So light language is supposed to be a

(01:17:10):
form of vibrational medicine as well. You know, we know
there's more to life than Earth. We know that there's
beings that come from outer Earth, and it is it's
purely frequency, you know, And sometimes you might hear a
translation of light language, But isn't it like everything Jimmy

(01:17:33):
that you know, it becomes known to humankind what is
what these things are, and lots of people jump on
the bandwagon and think, Okay, I can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
But if when you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Listen to like language, it's not what you're hearing, it's
what you're feeling from it, and that's the difference. It's
just not something you listen to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
So there, I guess there isn't a way to translate
it from a third person. From the observer, you can
translate it, the interpretation comes from who was receiving the
frequencies exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
So I could speak like language to you and five
other people and I'll say to you, what tell me
what I just.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Said in English?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
And they would all give me five different explanations. But
that's because that's their interpretation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I want to see two people speak light language to
each other. That's have you done that? Have you done that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Absolutely I have. And what was interesting a few months ago,
so I have a group that come together once a
month and we go into a very blacked out room,
dark room, and is a trance a session. But this
one particular evening, I decided that we weren't going to
go into a dark room. We were going to sit
in a regular room, and I had two frequency harm

(01:19:00):
nises on in the room set at certain frequencies, and
I said to them, all we're going to do is
go into a very light altered state and see what happens.
And the five people that were sat with me spontaneously
started to speak like language. But none of them were
the same. They all sounded different, They're all saying different dialects, words, etc.

(01:19:26):
But it was it was an activation of some sort
through those frequencies that proved to me that light language
is frequency based.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
I have a friend, Ruben Langdon, did a great documentary
series on late language, and I have a lot of
respect for Ruben. He's brilliant, he's so intelligent. I learned
a lot from that. But I also backed up and
thought to myself, if I started doing that, yeah, I

(01:20:02):
may tap out. I just may go and I've gone
too far into the woo and I don't need to
be speaking light language or going down that path. I
didn't leave his doctum. And it's a great documentary series,
and I've had many of the people that are in
that documentary series on this show, and I've had them

(01:20:22):
do like language. I've had children on this show with
their parents and speak light language on this show. And
to watch a kid go through that or an adult
and speak it, I'm fascinated with it. But I'm not sure.
Like I said, I'm not sure if I'm buying what's
being sold. I'm just very very confused with it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, and that's okay, that's fine. You know, it's not
something that we all have to buy into. It will
resonate with some people and it won't with others for sure.
And that's what's so amazing about this world and people.
We're not all sheep.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
And it's true. You're right, And here's you know why,
I'm a walking paradox. I say what I say about
light language. Yeah, but fairies are real, right, and I
write a Harley Right, I'm a I'm a pretty hardcore guy,

(01:21:26):
and so I fairies. I'm fully I'm yeah right, I'm
cool with that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
And that that makes you unique, you know, it makes
you who you are. And for you to be able
to sit there and say that, that's brilliant, because there's
too many people in the spiritual closet.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Still, well, there's no I'm sorry, I interrupted, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
No, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
And if everybody was entitled and allowed to say what
they want to say about I believe in this and
I don't believe in that, that's great, that's what we want.
We want truth because spirituality is about truth.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
You don't have to I guess sometimes in this community.
I love our community, I really do, I really do.
But sometimes in this community there are there are people
in this community that you have to be all in

(01:22:28):
and if you're not all in on everything, then you're
an impostor Oh well, you know what I'm saying to you.
You know exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
But you know, the thing that I find really fascinating,
especially at the moment. You know, there's been a huge
void opening between the sleep and the awake, meaning those
who are aware and those who aren't, and that void has
been has been widening for so long now. But there
was also a void opening between the awake and the awake,
the aware and the away yea. And the difference is

(01:23:04):
that the people who are on the positive side of
the aware are the ones who keep evolving and questioning
and looking deep into things and saying, okay, so this
is good, this isn't good. Let me move on to
the next thing that I can explore. And then you've
got the other side of the aware community that are

(01:23:26):
still doing the same thing that they were doing fifteen
twenty years ago, and they haven't evolved. But it's all
about the questioning does this feel right for me? Is
it something I feel aligned with? No, so we'll park
that here. What is it about my life?

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Someone I did a Q and A last week on
a live stream and someone said to me, what is
the meaning of life? And I just looked back at
him and I said, you know what, that is a
million dollar question. I said, I can't answer that for
you because I don't believe there's a true answer, I said,
But what I can tell you is I know the meaning.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Of my life. Ask me the question, Jimmy, what's the
meaning of life?

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Oh? Fundamental, basic?

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Absolutely everything points to that. Yeah, everything, everything points to that.
You can go off on side trips, you can do,
but it all comes back to that center.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
And what if there's something more than that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I don't know if there is. I don't think there is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
There absolutely is. Talk to me, a higher frequency of
love is authenticity because.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
I would look that I would flip that over. I
will flip that over. What you get out of love
is authenticity, I think. I think loves loves at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I disagree because you have to be authentic be love.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
You do, you do? But can he be authentic without love? No?
You never have found to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Go together, right, Yeah, absolutely so. And the other one
that couples in with that is respect. Love and respect
have to go together as well. If we go back
to what you said about the telepathy tapes and with
the children on the spectrum, those children are nothing but authentic.

(01:25:31):
I mean, yes, they demonstrate love in so many different ways,
but those kids have come here to teach us authenticity.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
I don't call it autism. I call it authenticism. Or
you know, when they say they're autistic, I say, no,
they're authentistic because they can't be anything else other than authentic.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Yeah, it's powerful, very powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
So authenticism has a higher frequency than love because if
you are truly authentic, then you are truly love. We
could spin this, you know, many times, but it has
to go together. They have to be in the same
And you know, I watched a real recently on Facebook

(01:26:19):
and this guy was talking about his near death experience,
and he was saying that when he died, he was
in the back of an ambulance in a body bag, literally,
and the young paramedic was saying that he didn't think
the guy was dead, and then more experienced paras were saying,
he is, he's dead, and he goes to the other side,

(01:26:42):
whatever that is, and he meets this energy this man
called Drake on the other side, and he was saying
to him, you know, in order to reach the level
of consciousness in human form, you need to have experienced
these ten things. And I can't remember all ten, but

(01:27:06):
I remember one. And Drake said to this young guy,
would you say that you're prejudice? And the young guy
said no, he said, because I have Asian stepbrothers and sisters.
He said, how could I possibly say I'm prejudice? And
Drake said to him that the guy three doors down,

(01:27:27):
and this young guy went, oh, don't talk to me
about him, because you know he's this, he's that, he's
all of these things. And Drake turned and said to him,
so you're also prejudice. And the young guy actually had
the option of staying in consciousness or coming back to earth,
and he chose to come back to his human body

(01:27:48):
to carry on with his experiences knowing these ten steps.
But if we aren't truly authentic in such a way
that we can demonstrate love that is is possible within
a human being. It also has to be without prejudice,
and that is going to be a hard thing for

(01:28:08):
human being.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean the goal of
so many, if not everybody, unless you're lying to yourself,
is trying to get to the feeling that you get
throughout your body and your mind, that you get from
the experience of love. And it can come from a pet,

(01:28:32):
it can come from the opposite sex or the same sect. Yeah, okay,
yes for sure. But once you taste it once and
then it leaves your life right, you get dumped right
or wherever it is right, you will spend a lifetime
trying to get that feeling back. Men have died, countries

(01:28:55):
have fallen, yep, for trying to get that feeling back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
What's the missing link there, authentic? Well, the missing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Link or the missing part of this is we've got
to stop looking outside of ourselves for it. And when
you meet somebody and you have that overwhelming feeling of love,
as in you know, the tingles, the heart palpitation, all
of those amazing things that you experience with true love

(01:29:28):
that is only being shown to us because that's what's
within us. And if only people stop looking outside of
themselves for that type of experience and realize that once
they've had it, it becomes part of their blueprint. All
they have to do is tap into what they experienced
and re enact it within themselves. Because all of these

(01:29:52):
things are not external. Joy is not external, happiness is
not external. We shouldn't be searching for these things. We
should be looking inward to find them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
And well, that's why I haven't grown That's why I
haven't grown up. That's why I haven't grown up. When
they're okay, so it's the last day of school before
summer vacation, right, Okay, you walk out of that school's done, right,
and you walk out of the front doors and you're

(01:30:24):
walking home. Yea, the world smells different at that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Moment, right, Only only if you know that it smells different.
What about the kid who's dreading being being off on
vacation from school.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
He needs his butt kicked, he needs his bucket. And
the reason why I bring that up is me being
an adult, I'm looking for that feeling that I had
right that feeling of walking out of school. And I'm serious,

(01:31:00):
everything is different, you know, and the feeling the joy
right now the kid that is dreading that can't help you, bro, can't.
You need to understand that these moments are precious to
you and in the future you're going to look back

(01:31:21):
at this and look, I didn't have the funnest childhood.
I didn't. But it's all part of the journey. Yeah,
And I constantly I want to talk about the brain
and I'm going to shift gears here, but I constantly
do the same thing that everybody else does. Maybe I

(01:31:42):
should do a video series or a TV show on this,
but I do something that everybody else does. You look
back at some crazy moment in your life where something
really shitty happened really bad. It doesn't matter what it is.
You did it, somebody else did it, something happened, but

(01:32:04):
it is that bills didn't get paid, your car got repossessed,
and you lost your job, and then you know and wow,
well yeah, but it's part of the journey. So today
I can think about that experience, but that experience is

(01:32:26):
part of how I arrived here, just like that kid
that wasn't looking forward to summer vacation. Well, okay, all right,
deal with it, man, pull up your pants, because it's
all part of the journey. You're going to look back
and recognize this. Now. The reason why this is so
fascinating to me is that I was watching Defending Your Life,

(01:32:49):
the movie the other day. Have you seen it? Defending
Your Life? One of the greatest movies, top ten ever
made in the history of cinema. In your Life? It's amazing.
But there are a couple of moments in that movie

(01:33:09):
that caused my some self reflection this week. And so
when you go through that. One of the things that
is mentioned in the movie, Rip Torn says, well, you know,
I'm evolved. I use fifty one percent of my brain.

(01:33:29):
Guess how much you use? And he goes, I don't
know a little more than that, and I goes, no, no, no, no,
you used between three and five percent of your brain. Now,
let's stop right there. That has been repeated over and
over and over again. It has become dogma, it has
become truth. It is all right that we only use

(01:33:52):
five percent of our brain. What was the reason for
the universe to give us that other ninety five percent.
It's there for something and we probably used all of
it at some point and to get to this part
of our human evolution and go, wow, there's no reason

(01:34:15):
to really think about that. Yes, there is. There's a
lot of untapped potential that was designed into this beautiful
thing inside you know, in between our ears, and that's
what that's what you are doing. You are teaching us
how to get back to what we were given in

(01:34:35):
the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Yeah. I also see the brain as being like a
computer hard drive. It's got this this fantastic ability which
we call memory, and to me it's like, let's just
say it's got one terabyte of storage. So we're using
the brain as the processor. We're using the brain to

(01:34:59):
lo and to understand, to think on all of those
human natural things. But I also see it as the storage.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Now when we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Are going through life and we have our memories and
we're building all these neuropathways in the brain, etc.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Think about this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
When people are diagnosed with Alzheimer's and dementia and they
can recall information and memories from the past, but they
can't remember yesterday. Is it because the capacity of the
brain's memory storage is now full. Now, if I go

(01:35:42):
to my computer and it's coming close to maximum capacity
of memory, then I can delete stuff from my computer
and I can defrag it and all those things to
speed it up because the memory banks full.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
But we can't do that with human brain.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
So is a big part of the brain the storage
area or can that be developed in such ways that
we can also tap into other parts of the brain
where new neural pathways are developing to be able to
do X, Y and z instead of just A, B
and C. So for me, the brain has so much

(01:36:27):
more potential, But I think a big part of has
been lost in that in how much is our storage area?

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
When I see video and images of brain scan and
activity that happens when individuals are activating certain parts of
their brain, whatever it is. It could be the dream state,
it could be anger, happiness, and also the memory part

(01:36:58):
of it. Teeny little things light up. It's really weird.
The whole brain in brains as never goes full full tilt,
it never lights up, and all of those connections, all
of those neurons, all of those things that start developing
from you know, we're a little, tiny little thing and

(01:37:20):
the brain starts getting put together, and then you come out,
you open up your eyes and you look at your mom.
What's happening at that point when you look at your
mom's face connections right, right, it's all been There's a
lot there that's being connected that is never used.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
And you should you should look at how the brain
lights up when people are communicating spiritually as well, when
when when people are channeling or in their entrance states.
You should look at the studies they've done with that
as well, because that's phenomenal and that that is also
proof how you know, science and spiritual being brought together

(01:38:02):
through not only perception but through you know, the physical
parts of the human brain that are awakened when we
start to realize there's something out there. There's not just
it's not just all in near. It's out there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
There is a you should look into what maybe you have.
It's called the Brain Project, and the Brain Project, which
is one of the biggest things on this planet's like
cern right. It's also in Switzerland, by the way. So
the project was funded with the idea that they would

(01:38:40):
put together a computer system, yeah, so big that it
would match the electronic connections and transistors and processors in
this massive warehouse sized computer would match the number of
connections in a human brain, right right, trillions. So, and

(01:39:02):
the thought was, once we get to that number of
connections and we match the connections in the human brain,
that consciousness would evolve, that we would have a computer
acting like a human brain. Okay, so about five years

(01:39:22):
ago they got to that number.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
It didn't work. It simply didn't work. I can only
imagine as they're bringing the last server online, right, the
last computer. Okay, here we go, and this thing's gonna
light up right, well, we're gonna and it simply didn't work.
The project is still continuing and they're trying to get
to that point. But that's how magical the human brain is,

(01:39:50):
isn't it. Oh. I don't know if we'll ever figure
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
But it's the difference between mechanical and organic. You know,
you can build as many computers or store or whatever
you like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
You can build as.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Many as you like, but it's never going to mirror
the organic part of the human brain because the brain
is so much more advanced, except we don't know how
to use it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
It seems to me I want to get back to
your teaching. But I love this conversation. I love the obviously,
I think about this stuff a lot. Yeah, what I
think should happen and it never will. Well, maybe someday
is that the engineers, the CEOs of these ginormous tech

(01:40:43):
companies that are working on AI and supercomputers and and
all of these grand ideas, and they should do all
these things. They need to go and sit down for
maybe a month, it down and talk to the Dali Lama.
Go talk to these spiritually conscious connected people about how

(01:41:09):
they use their brain. They probably know more about the
brain and its uses and its physiology than the intellects
of the world. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
I'll tell you though, what they're likely to say is
they don't use their brain.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
They use their heart for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Right where in the world of tech and engineering and
all that, where it's black and white, it's math, it's numbers,
it's this, it's pragmatic, there isn't a spiritual connection or
a conscious connection to any of that design work. Right,
And if you could apply or maybe they should do
d MT, maybe that's it too. Maybe maybe not, I

(01:41:57):
don't know, maybe not. It's so funny to me. How consciousness, Man,
I'm such a broken record on the subject. How consciousness
is so amazing, is unbelievable. We are. Everybody's aware of it,

(01:42:18):
but so many don't want to touch the subject. They
don't even like saying the word no.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
You know, even the word spiritual is kind of like
a taboo. Yeah, exactly, exactly, But it's fundamentally so who
we are. We were, We were that before we were born.
We've been through it all our lives and we'll go
back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Yeah, we cannot be.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Separated from consciousness. And as soon as people start to
realize that, the better.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Have you seen? Have you communicated with eut.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
With with ets? Yeah? Okay, and also in a chrance
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Sure, sure, I love the wus in doing in doing that,
What do you say? Do you say bless you when
somebody coughs? Or is that just a sneeze?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Sneeze?

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
That's a spiritual thing, saying bless you. You're getting rid
of the bad spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Right, that's right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
I remember when I was a kid and I was
told that you told so many things when you're a kid,
and you're like, really, you remember that for your whole
life that just stays with you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
And you see, And that's exactly that. The main point
about when we teach the kids with the ICU program
is that we give them something that that's tangible to
believe in that's not conditioning because they naturally develop it

(01:43:58):
within themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
We tell them to.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Do it, like what give me? Give me something?

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So when we take them through the program, we just
guide them. We don't tell them what to do. We
guide them to unfold naturally, so there's no conditioning going
on during the program. It's just simply if you like
holding space for a child to naturally open up something
that is within them. We're not conditioning them or indoctrinate

(01:44:26):
them into believing that seeing blindfolded is possible.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
We just give them the.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Space to find it for themselves. And that's where most
educational systems go wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
It is hardwarts I knew it. I knew it, I
knew it. It's exactly the reason why I brought up
et y is consciousness. And I'm fascinated with that aspect
of it because if et survived and was able to
evolve and continue, right, we are in danger of not

(01:45:00):
surviving here on earth right and so we have to
get past this moment in our history of self destruction
because we have the ability to do it. As you
and I are speaking, and that's a frightening thing. We
have to be able to get past it. Well, if
ET is arriving on this planet, if ET is communicating

(01:45:21):
with us, then they have moved past that. They've gotten
past it, and they they they understand consciousness, They understand it,
they know what to do with it. They know what
you know, every aspect of it. And we are not
there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
How do you feel about the thought of eighties being
here already in human form?

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
All right, yes, is the answer. Yes, And that's that's
even frank Man. I've seen the body snatchers. I've seen
and the and the thought of that is is both
frightening but also very truthful. And as we're talking about

(01:46:19):
an intelligence level that is way beyond our own wait
wait wait, wait wait, way beyond our.

Speaker 8 (01:46:26):
Own and yes, yes, yes, I mean one hundred percent
believe that, not nine, it's way beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
I had Lawrence Krauss on the show a few weeks ago,
and one of the pre eminent respected physicists on this planet.
I've read his books I've seen his stuff. I've you know,
Lawrence friggin' Krause on this show, And when I bring
up these subjects with Lawrence, it's like, and that part

(01:47:04):
of it is fascinating to me, how you can be
so involved with intelligence, with math, with physics, with the
quantum world, the multiverse and entanglement and all of these grand,
huge things. Right, he doesn't know shit, He doesn't know nothing,
and he's one of the brightest people on this planet.

(01:47:27):
But ET arrives here, what can they say to Lawrence Kraus,
to Brian Green, to Kneel the Grass, Tyson, too michi Okaku.
What could they say to them that they would understand nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
I don't think there's anything they can say. But what's
missing is experiences like you had. You shut your eyes,
you go into meditation, and you get taken off somewhere,
and you come back knowing that there's something more. You
experienced it yourself. So there's nothing an ET can say

(01:48:05):
to the most intelligent people on this planet. They have
to experience something to understand it. And that is the
difference between left and right brain. It's the difference between
being spiritual and not being spiritual. Because it's all about
the experience. And I say to people over and over again,
you can't play it being spiritual. You have to be it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure, for sure. But even
you and my little group of evolved beings that I
that I hang out with the fact that we have
an open mind and we can talk about these subjects
and explore these subjects, and we've experienced things that are

(01:48:47):
tough to explain, a lot of fun, but you know,
tough to explain, and we're trying to understand this et.
They come here and they go, well, actually it's done
like this. Whatever it is that they say, you don't
have never thought of it, nobody has, nobody. It's going

(01:49:08):
to be way beyond that. Then bring it on, I know,
bring it on, Bring it on, bring it on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Yeah, if we're doing something wrong, please come and show us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Well I yeah, possibly that, but I think it's it's simpler, okay,
all right. And I'm not the I'm not the Dali Lama.
I'm not some wise old guy. But all we have
to be shown is not not the cure, not the answer, No,

(01:49:41):
just that it can be. Yeah, that's all. That's that's all.
And then we can go in and evolve.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
And that is the difference between the PhD in complexity
and the PhD in simplicity. And that's what Anna is
getting at. We over complicate everything. If we keep it simple,
it will become more evolved faster than we can blink.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes. And you know how
fundamental that is. It sounds so basic, but it's really
the bottom line here.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Yeah, we've been conditioned to make things difficult for ourselves
right from day one, you know, and it's just a
very sad part of human evolution. But if we go
back to basics and keep it simple, like the children
in Egypt and other places around the world where they

(01:50:46):
live beautiful, simple lives, that's what we.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Need to go back to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
And that's what the ETS will come and say to us.
You've got to keep it simple.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
I'm not giving up my guitars and my Harley's.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
I'm not giving up my books and my crystals and
everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
See these these sit right in front of me. Ye,
so as I you know, you know, I talk about
light language or whatever I say these things, but meanwhile
I've got crystals in front of.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Me, right, that's your bag.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
If I brought a stranger into my home, somebody that
doesn't know anything about me, right, just mat or whatever
it is. But they, you know, a right and they
come in to my entry way, into my foyer and
they look around. I wonder what they would think, Yeah,
you know, crystal skulls, piles of crystals, the pyramids, you know,

(01:51:53):
and just just kind of look around and go, okay,
all right. I wonder don't you write a Harley though
I do? I do, But but I think that's what
is so important.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
Exactly, And that's the authenticity.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
People come in here and they'll come into my home
and they'll go look at the crystals and the books
and everything else that's in my home.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
But I still say the word shit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Right right, speaking of looking at the clock, I don't
want to run out of time. I've got a lot
of you know, brought up Harley's a few times tonight.
It's my lifestyle, that's my thing. Obviously, I've got a
certain thing that right, I'm wearing a Tower Records London
T shirt. I am who I am? Ye, But I

(01:52:46):
got to tell you those hard ass leather, black leather,
black motorcycle Harley, they're all into this stuff all. They
don't want to talk about it with their cool Harley friends,
but they'll talk about it with me exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
And they are some of the most kind hearted people.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
The most beautiful, the most beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I couldn't agree more. They are. What
they do without most people knowing is beyond what most
people would do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
Don't you feel that this would be the last question
because it's a deep one. Don't you feel that being
on this quest and looking for these answers is something
that possibly we're not meant as humans to understand everything,

(01:53:47):
and that maybe some things are just a quest that
the answer is not obtainable.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
No, because I think everything's obtainable.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Believe really that if we're meant to know it, we will.
If we search for it, we could be searching a lifetime.
But if we open our minds up and our hearts
up to everything being possible, then there's every reason why

(01:54:25):
we could get the answers, every reason. You know, as
a teacher of spirituality and the kids and everything else, Jimmy,
there's nothing that I can teach anybody on this planet
that they don't already know. So my role as a
spiritual teacher is to facilitate their remembering. And when we

(01:54:49):
allow ourselves to remember, then that's when the potential is there.
That's when everything is available to us. And we may
never get the answers, but I know that they're out there.
It's just that we haven't found the right path to
find the answers to everything. You know, and how many
people say things, the words come out of their mouths

(01:55:10):
and they just say, God, I didn't know where. I
don't know where that came from. Well, that I don't
know where it came from is consciousness. And if we
find the root consciousness through the human mind and through
the heart, then we have the answers to everything.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
I don't know. I had Callum Cooper on the show yesterday.
He's great, he's amazing, And I asked him because I
started having these thoughts a couple of weeks ago. So
I asked him, I'm gonna ask you the same thing.
If you knew the rest of your life from this

(01:55:54):
moment forward, if you knew the rest of your life
and how it ends, would you change anything? And it's
a it's a it's a profound thing. Some things maybe
we're not supposed to know what about life after death?
What happens on the other side. Okay, do we need

(01:56:16):
to know that?

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
No, we don't. We absolutely don't, because it's an experience.
And I've said this to many people. If I knew
fifteen years ago what I'd be doing today, I probably
wouldn't be doing it because the task would have seemed.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Too big, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
So so what we evolve into is what we're supposed
to become.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
I don't want to know what I've got left to
live for however long I'm here. I don't want to
know it because I want to enjoy the journey.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't change a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
No, me neither.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
And all of the hard experiences I've had in my life,
and there's been some pretty harsh ones for me, they're
not a burden. They were a fantastic opportunity for me
to learn. And if more people looked at their experiences
and said, what is this taught me, then we'd have
a much better population of this world.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
When your parents say that to you when you're a kid,
you don't want to hear that. It's just it's a
life lesson. You're like, man, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I don't want this, but it's absolutely just that it's
a lesson.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Yeah, I've learned some incredible things about myself through negative experiences,
harsh lessons, all of those things. But you know, Anna
says to me, Now, these aren't lessons anymore. What you're
experiencing are opportunities to master life.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
You may not do it, you may not master anything,
but you don't just go on that journey exactly. Well,
I have, I've said so many times, Nikola, and and
I know that people go through hard stuff, right And

(01:58:15):
when I say things like you know, think positive the
sun will, I have seen and experienced in my own
life the darkest of the dark. I'm not. I have
was not gifted anything. I worked for everything, and I
have been through crazy darkness, crazy darkness. I used to

(01:58:40):
drive home and I've done I've done everything that you
can experience that is harsh in life. But nothing is.
There's a feeling that we've all gone through. Okay, you're
pulling up to your house, it's at night, and you
don't I don't know if your electricity was turned off

(01:59:02):
that day. Mm hmmay, Okay, that's that's an awful feeling.
You've got your kids in the car and you don't
know if you're going to walk in and hit the
light switch and if the lights are going to be on.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Right, that's that's shitty. That sucks. Yeah, but it's a lesson.
And if I'm sitting here today, you know, saying these things,
it's because I have been I have been right.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Yeah, I've had times, well particular time in my life
where I would be driving home from work and life
had been so dark that I knew exactly which wall
I was going to drive into to end my life. Sure,
I've been there.

Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
Yeah, But you come out the other side having had
those thoughts and those experiences, learn from them to the
degree that you embrace life and enjoy everything, everything that's
thrown at you that you experience, good, bad, and indifferent,
because that's life.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
Thank you so much for being you. Thank you so much.
You're absolutely wonderful. What a great conversation tonight. Where can
everybody follow your work.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
So they can go on to my main website, which
is Nicolafarmer dot com. There's other websites that they can
find on there for all the work that I do,
and then the Icuacademy dot co dot uk website where
you can find out about the work with the children
and how to become teachers for the children, etc.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
Thank you so much, Nikola. Look forward to seeing you
again and our next conversation. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
Thanks Jimmy for having me. It's been brilliant.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Enjoy the rest of your day by Thank you so much.
What a perfect night on the show, A perfect conversation.
Thank you so much to Nicola. And tomorrow night, Oh man,
I've got to go. I've got to go old school
here tomorrow night. Massadi is here talking about life after death.

(02:01:14):
That is the show tomorrow night. It is all in
thee all night long, Tomorrow night with Massadi. So I
will see you there and again. Thank you, Nicola. Perfect
night on the show, perfect conversation. I'm your stummy church.
But for now, all I've got is go Backley, Teppie Beida.

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