FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Holly Hall

Tonight, world-class astrologer Holly Hall joins us... to discuss life, astrology, and our future... and she does a really cool reading for Jimmy... check it out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
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This is Day to Black.

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It's your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
All right, kids, Fade to Black? How you doing? How
you doing? Today? Is Monday, November twenty fourth, twenty twenty five.
In case you didn't know, I'm your host, Jimmy Church.
What is cracking? Everybody? Another brand new week here on
Fade to Black. Short week. It's Thanksgiving tonight. Holly Hall

(01:28):
joins us astrology. We're gonna do some predictions and some
other fun stuff. Tomorrow night. Jason Quit Quit Spiracy fourteen
or is it Wednesday night? Stephen Bassett joins us, We're
gonna talk about this new movie that has come out.
It's a documentary called the Age of Disclosure. And that

(01:50):
is Wednesday night. Always fun. When mister Bassett stops by,
and then Thursday we are off air, just like the
rest of you, we will be celebrating things. Giving. Yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna spend Thanksgiving at a friend's house.
I'm not gonna say which friend, because there are stalkers

(02:12):
out there that will be waiting for me as I
pull up. I can't even do that anymore. I can't
have that kind of fun. Uh yeah. But anyway, that'll
be Thursday, and if it's warm enough, and I'm hoping
that it will be, I'm gonna ride my bike out. Yeah.

(02:32):
I was telling Bill in the chat, like a baller man,
I'm gonna roll up on my Harley, pop open the
saddle bag, pull out a couple of bottles of wine
like a baller. Yeah. That's gonna be my Thanksgiving. And
it's a bit of a drive. But I was considering.
First off, it would be really cool to roll up

(02:54):
on my Harley. But the second part is how cold
is it going to be? And when are we going
to eat? And am I going to ride home in
the dark at ten pm when it's like twenty degrees outside?
But all of that pain has been alleviated. We've got
it all worked out, So yeah, I'm gonna write my

(03:14):
Harley out and it's gonna be a lot of fun.
I also posted I want to get straight to the
show before because I just love hanging out with all
of you guys. And I could just sit here and
babble and Holly's gonna sit there going, man, what's up
with this dude just yapping about himself? Yeah? I know right,

(03:36):
it's my show. Is Guya, my TV network who I
just love so much. Guy, it's just amazing. Guya sent
me for Christmas the gnarliest, coolest Harley leather jacket. And

(03:57):
I didn't know you know what size, you know, So
I get this thing, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
What side? You know what? Okay, So anyway, comes today,
it arrives. It's insane. It's insane. So I'm going to
post pictures on social media. You gotta see this jacket.

(04:19):
I'm serious. And I got lots of Harley leather. I
didn't have this, man. Yeah. Yeah, Christmas came early. So
that was the start to my day. And we've got
a great week coming up. My next event coming up
is the Conscious Life Expo. I'll be hosting this now

(04:40):
for the twelfth thirteenth year, which is February twenty through
the twenty third, twenty twenty six at the lax Hilton.
The links for that and everything else that I am
doing in twenty twenty six are in the comments and
description below. Okay, so oh oh, one last thing before
I bring Holly in. Holly, just be patient, because this

(05:01):
is really cool. Esperanza Esperanza Is she in the chat?
Is Esperanza in the chat? Somebody tell me if Esperanza
is in the chat. I don't have a I don't
have the time to go back and look Esperanza to that.
Just get this email out of the blue, right, hey, Jimmy,

(05:22):
and uh, I said, oh wow, she goes, don't give
me and uh she is. Okay, So I'm not gonna
say what the email said, but it was it was
very cool. And and I wrote it back and I said,
I thought, I thought, I thought you knew all of this.

(05:45):
She writes me, she goes no, So anyway, but in
the email, uh, she wanted uh oh, she asked me
my schedule, uh for beyond belief And and I said, well,
it is nothing going on in December. We don't shoot

(06:05):
in December, but February, March, April, May, June, July, August
are all booked, and yeah, very excited about that. And
like I said, my schedule for twenty twenty six is below,
and we have managed to work everything out in between

(06:27):
this very complicated schedule. So there you go. All right,
all right, let's get started tonight. Holly Hall joins us
astrology tonight. One of my favorite subjects, and we're going
to jump into some predictions too as well. And here's
here's the deal astrology. I go back to science on this. Now,

(06:59):
stay with me, all right. When you deal with a
really good astrologer that understands what is going on, both
both Eastern and Western whatever you know, okay, is when
I say science, it is the cosmos, it's planetary positions,

(07:20):
it's all of that. And but science and physics will
say things like there is no free will. The way
that the universe is building itself, that's all math, that's
all particles, that's the combination of things and molecules and

(07:42):
things are created, and it's all math and whatever. So
if that's the case, all right, If that is the case,
then astrology is just as solid. If you have a
good astrologer is just as solid as what the scientists
are trying to say say about the cosmos and physics
and astronomy and the universe and everything else you want

(08:08):
to take out free will, then go listen to an
astrologer and they're going to tell you how this is
going to play out based on I'm going to say science.
So we're going to get into all of that, including tonight,
the meaning of life, karma, past lives, maybe a little
acoshic records, just to make sure we're covering all of

(08:30):
the bases. And she is, without a doubt, she's a
sole physicist. What did I just say now, not only
a clare cognizant intuitive, an astro psychologist who blends ancient
wisdom with modern insight to decode both world events and
individual life paths, with the unique ability to see patterns

(08:51):
and human behavior. All of that and much more, I
would like to welcome for the first time to fade
the blacket. Ready, Holly, we got you in here. How
you doing.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, you're doing your American accent?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I knew you pull that, man, I told you I
got oh Gary, my dad is American. I just happened
to be born in Canada.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Wow. Hey, So tomorrow night we were talking about Jason
Quit earlier, and tomorrow night Jason is on with this.
Oddly enough that we were talking about him earlier, because
you live outside of Toronto, so does he. And but
his accent, he's proud of it. He's proud of it.

(09:37):
It's it's just really crazy. Not saying that you're not,
but I'm saying he does nothing to disguise it, and
he will lay it. He will lay it on thick,
he will lay it on Canada. You're from Oh stop,
no man, anything north of Chicago, anything, anything north of Detroit,
anything north of Minnesota. You know, is it's all it's

(10:00):
all the same accent. I I before we get started,
let's let's get this done. You get the first time
guest disclaimer, Holly, and it goes like this, and we
need to do this so we can start the show. Holly.
It's just you and I sitting on my couch having
a conversation as friends. Where the conversation starts, it starts,
where it ends, it ends. But we're going to end

(10:20):
as friends. Now you have to accept so we can
move on.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Am I what? Am I happy?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
You have to accept I accept? Okay, okay, And you
didn't even know what I said, but to accept it anyway, he.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Said, We're sitting on a couch having a conversation, and
anything that comes up comes up.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Close enough, close enough, close enough. That's good. That's good,
that's good. That's good. The idea that I laid out
at the beginning of the show because I want to
talk about different types of astronomy and lay the foundation
there and what you do. But if science wants us

(11:05):
to understand and accept the ideas that they put forward
about science, then astrology must be correct. Now there's all
those scientists. No no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
If what you are saying is correct, well, then a
good astrologer is basing their stuff on your work, on

(11:30):
the work of Isaac Newton and Copernicus. Right, And that's
the crazy part. If it's if you can't have it
both ways, right, it's either what you're saying an astrology
should be something depends on your astrologer, of course, right.
But astrology is based in science, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It is actually because astrology and astronomy were one back
in the day. And if you wanted to go to
university before the midi eighteen hundreds, you wanted to take astronomy,
you had to take astrology. If you want to take astrology,
you had to take astronomy. It was part of the mathematics,
it was part of the sciences. And in the mid
eighteen hundreds they took it out bare They left astronomy,

(12:13):
but they took out astrology. But it goes it goes
way back, like it goes way back to Babylonian days,
and some say even ancient Samria, Amyria and Atlantis.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, I'll tell you what I mean. This is something
that has been talked about a lot. But the zodiac
that was found in Egypt, right, I think it was Dendara.
I want to get those correct Dendara. So when you

(12:44):
go up there, okay, here's here, here is a little
history lesson. This is what is crazy. So you go
up onto the roof of the temple there in Dendara,
you say zagarund and then on the temple is ginormous, right,
and on the roof you're going to this and there
it is man on the ceiling and you look at

(13:06):
it and you're like, holy crap, it's a zodiac. There
isn't any question about what it is. It's a zoda
as modern as it's a zodiac. But it's not the original. Okay,
are you ready? Freaking Napoleon comes in takes that thing out.

(13:28):
The original is in the British museum. It's not at
the Louver, it's not in the French museum, all right,
It's in the British museum. And when Napoleon went and
ransacked the country in seventeen eighty eight, seventeen ninety eight,

(13:48):
he's collecting everything, right, and he's got this pile, I
mean shiploads of artifacts that they have collected from around
Egypt when he surrendered to the British because he lost
that battle. So in eighteen oh one, the British come
in and they sign a peace treaty with the French,

(14:09):
with Napoleon, and in that peace treaty, this comes back
to you in the zodiac. In that peace treaty they
said the British, you can keep your plants and your
animals that you have collected. All the other stuff is ours.
And they took it all. They took the Rosetta stone, right,

(14:29):
They took all the good stuff, including that zodiac, and
so the zodiac that is there and Dendara is a
cast of the original. So they made a cast, they
made a new one, and they brought it back the game.
They didn't give you Egypt the original and like keep
the cast, which would have been the right thing to do.

(14:51):
They give them the copy. And that's what's in the
roof in Dendara. Yeah, is that?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
How? Oh the original?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
If I went to an exact date here, I would
make an educated guess at four thousand years right exactly, Yeah,
four thousand years, two thousand years back to the year zero,
and then two thousand years before that.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, And you know, if they're trying to hide it,
it's got to be true.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's right, that's right. And so that zodiac wasn't the first,
right right, right, right, right right, there's older ones. The
question is where are they? Have they been found? And
so much stuff from Egypt and all the countries in

(15:47):
the world where this kind of stuff went down, the stolen, looted, antiquities,
stuff that comes out of the ground. Once it comes
out of the ground, if an archaeologist isn't there or
a government official isn't there. That's it. It's not documented,
that's it. It's sold on the black market. So there's

(16:08):
no prominent there's nothing to tie anything, and so you
don't know what has been found and what has been
looted because there's no official and they figure that out
very quickly with Egypt, this went on in China, South America,
the black market for antiquities. You know what I'm going

(16:31):
to say this when I come back to the zodiac.
Do you know what word is understood in every language
in the world. One word every language understands one word antique.
Antique anti antique means the same thing in every legage.
So you go up if you went up to or

(16:53):
you can get back to astrology, if you go back,
if you go up to somebody selling T shirts in Cairo,
somebody selling T shirts in Peru, in Mexico, right in England,
in Germany, somebody selling teacher And then you go, okay, man,
where are the antiques? Oh you want the good stuff?

(17:14):
They all have it. They know what that word is,
and they pull open the drawer and they present you
with something that you know came out of the ground.
And the same thing with that zodiac and which also
goes back to go Beecklee Tepee, which is you know,
there's twelve thousand years ago with that zodiac, tons.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Of zodiac stuff there, the temples that are underground in Turkey,
and it's all over the plate. And they were warning.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Us, completely complaining there because.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
They were telling you this is going to be aligned
with that. And so all you have to do is
wait for that alignment to happen, and that's when the prediction.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is yep, yep, and that's when it's coming. You know,
let's go back into the history of this. Well, we're
in the history of it, but how do you resolve
with yourself? I've been wondering about this a lot. I
talk about it a lot on the show. Where you
have all these different cultures from around the world that

(18:13):
theoretically weren't in communication with each other. We're talking about
thousands of years ago that identify the same names and
symbols for the constellations. How is that? How I go
outside and look at the constellation. I don't see a bear,

(18:37):
I don't see scales. I don't know, but you feel
I don't see anybody pouring water out of I don't know,
but they did.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Because they associated them with gods.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's too short of an answer. Explain well, but no, I.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mean that's why they had those like symbols, because they
associated with gods and mythology. But I mean, you got
me stumped. I have no idea how I mean. It's
it's the same with even the Bible or whatnot. You know,
there's similar writings in all different parts, like the Great
Flood is. I'm not a big religious biblical person, but
the Great Flood is written in Ethiopian text, in the Bible,

(19:20):
in Hebrew, like it's it's all over the place, right,
So how does this happen? I do believe there was
a time when we were much more telepathic than we are. Now.
We've lost our telepathy, we've lost our mind reading, we've
lost our connection, and there's stories that are passed on.
There was still travelers, it was gypsies, There was travelers,

(19:43):
There was stargazers, and they passed on knowledge, and they
passed on information. And if you really want to go
down a rabbit hole, you know, we may be part alien.
So this might have been brought to us from you know,
as above, So blown.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Not going down that big of a rabbit hole. I
think that's okay. So what type of astrology do you
specialize in?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I did Western for about a couple of decades and
then I've been doing Sidario for about five years now.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
With Sidario, okay, so you change teams.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, I totally changed. Wow. So scenario is close to Vedic.
It's actually in alignment with astronomy. Western is off arguably
about eleven to twenty one days. And I always questioned
it because I had a very specific past life experience.
I got a scientific mind. Okay, I wanted to go

(20:40):
into biology or psychology. I actually took psychology and philosophy
and university, but I wanted to go into biology. So
I'm very scientific as well. But anyways, I had a
very profound experience experience that I was an Eastern astrologer
in another lifetime, if not many lifetimes. So I kept thinking,
why do I gravitate towards Vedic? How come I can't

(21:03):
get it? I tried, because it's very different, symbols, very different.
It's in squares instead of a circle, but Sidario it's
in the language of Western, but it's in alignment with
where all the planets are right now, which is what
Vedic does as well, and it looks more like a
destiny king planets things like that, so it's much more accurate,

(21:26):
in my mind, is much more accurate.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
If you quit the team, can you go back? Will
they let me back?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It actually irritates me when people go, I'm a leo.
I'm like, no, you're not your cancer.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
No man, Okay, so answered the question. Though. Once you
quit the team, can you go back? Will they let
you in?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They won't let me in. I'm shunned.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I have so many friends, dear friends. Many times guests
on this show that you know, pitch for both teams,
for one team or the other, I should say, and
I don't know why. It's kind of like Canada and

(22:17):
the United States. Let me explain.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Let me explain.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, Canada really doesn't like the United States. They don't.
And there's a lot of reasons for I don't don't
don't play nice here. But down here, down here, down here,
we barely know that there's a country up there, barely barely,

(22:43):
and that we don't have we don't have any attitudes
about Canadians. We love Canada, I mean, what's not to love?
I love Canada, but Canadians. They have a lot of
reasons to be pissed off us. I mean the list
is really long, and it's kind of the same thing

(23:05):
with Western and Eastern astronomy. I think the Western astronomers
are pretty peachy astrologer, yeah, astrology an astrologer, yeah, But
from the Eastern side, they they they're not really digging
the Western side. And it's it's it's strange, isn't it.
Why Why do you think that is? Is it? Because

(23:27):
one may be a little older than the other.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
And there's a couple of there's a couple of different
different reasons. One is cultural. I have a lot of
clients that are East Indian. I was fortunate to be
endorsed by doctor Shefali and I, you know, just acquired
a lot of East Indian moms and they were terrified
of having a reading done for me because they grew

(23:51):
they were born with their astrology chart done usually by
charlatan's who charged their parents a lot of money, really
didn't know a lot about astrology, and their parents lived
by that chart and it's usually doom and gloom their charts, right,
So they grew up tainted by this astrologer who did
their charts, so they're terrified of getting one done by me.

(24:12):
So there is there's a difference in whether you're the
Charlatan astrologer, which isn't always as accurate, or you're the
true astrologer, the true Vedic astrology, and you look at
what their soul was here to be born, what is
their destiny, what is their king planet? Where's the Rahu?
Where is their K two? Where in Western it's north

(24:34):
not south. Note some things are very similar, like all
of the angles are very close to being similar. Usually
ascendant is similar. The house placements. If you know, the
time that you're born is the same, right, it's just
the actual constellations shift. But if you go to stellariumslashweb

(24:55):
dot org, which is an astronomy site, you'll see right
now that the Sun signed, the Sun is in a
constellation that is not the same constellation as what Western
astrology will tell you that it is. So it's just
like a lot of people say, oh, we're going from
Scorpio to Sagittarius right now. No, the Sun has actually

(25:18):
just just moved into Scorpio.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I didn't mean to get this big thing going on
between Canada and the United States and the chat room.
But it's just.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Don't even go to no. We we just came back.
We'd spend a month in Florida about a month ago.
I'm sorry going back in February. Sorry, my dad's American.
I got nothing wrong, no problem, And everybody was apologizing
to me. All the Americans were apologizing to me when
they'd find out I was Canadian. I go, I don't,

(25:50):
it's not politics with you.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Who was just in Trudeau dating right now?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
He's apparently Katie Perry. Yeah, Katie Pear apparently.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
How I don't, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think it's just it's just deploying.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
We really need to move on. I am so perplexed
with that. I am just absolutely perplexed. Okay, but I
have been to not every city, but I've been to
every province, every state or it's provinces up there, right,

(26:36):
I've been to uh everything. I've gone east to west
and west to east and hit everything along the way,
and I just I just love the country every time
I go there. I've had a few hassles by Canadian
customs a couple of times over the years, which really

(26:58):
freaked me out. It didn't fit the mold of what
I thought Canada was all about. But that's another point.
But the people in the country are beautiful. It's just amazing.
Every time I'm up there, I'm like, man, I'd move here.
They wouldn't let me in the country, but it wouldn't
allow me to move there, but I would do that
in a second. Canada is just wonderful. Okay. So back

(27:22):
to the ancient side of this. When you say it's
a few degrees off that caught me by surprise, what
do you mean by that? And that is ultimately it
must be a big deal.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It is a big deal. If you take a look
at how our climate has shifted. They can call it
whatever they want. But our spring is getting is later
if you live in a four season but it doesn't
matter where you live. If you still get a spring, summer,
winter fall, and the cold is lasting, the warm is
lasting longer, and the cold seems to be, you know,

(28:00):
come coming later. And that's because we've shifted. I mean,
it's it's the earth is on a access, it's on
a wabble, and it is shifting slowly. The North Pole
is shifting. It's going to take you know, thousands of
years before it completely shifts, but it's shifting enough that
we're our viewpoint, our alignment. Like look through a telescope

(28:20):
and look at the constellations. They're not the way they
were two thousand years ago.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
What does does astrology help us understand? H who we are?
And you know why?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it's like if you want to note, we're all
here on a destiny. We have a mission specifically now
there's eight million billion people on the planet for a reason.
It's like all hands on deck, all souls on deck,
so we all have a mission. And if I think
everyone except you know, not the Charlatans, but everyone should

(28:52):
know what their astrology says about them from the minute
they're born. If you have a child, get their astrology
chart done. You'll get them. You won't have to go
through years of trying to figure them out. You know
exactly what they're all about right from the get go,
so you can relate to them, so you can foster
the best life they're meant to have.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I have, I have, I gotta, I gotta really watch
my step here. I have come to know a couple
of astrologers that would come up to me and say
something bombastic, like crazy town right, Okay, man, in the

(29:36):
next three months, we're going to have a comment and
we're going to have the bubonic plague, and I've got
to come on your show and we have to warn
the world like dude, dude, no, you know, no, no, no,
and now multiple multiple times.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's totally against actual ethics to do things like that
to a degree.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
And people, how do I say this? People are attracted
to things that they resonate with. If you are going
to prophesize some doomsday thing based on astrology and go
public with it and that doesn't happen, whatever chance you

(30:23):
had of people resonating with you is now gone. Right.
I'm not I'm not wrong here. It's just and I've
always said no to all of that. I've never done
three thousand shows, I've never done it once. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
The thing is is that you ever play poker mm hm.
You get handed You get handed a hand of cards,
right right? How you play that card is? Those cards
are totally up to you, the hand what you got
handed to you can't change that. Okay, that's that's but

(31:03):
free will, that's destiny. But free will is how are
you going to play those cards?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Take that a step.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
How are you going to how are you going to
react so that you know, are you gonna are you
going to play those cards so that people know that
you're playing them a certain way, or you're gonna have
a really good poker face. Everyone is different. All five
of you could have the same cards and you're all
going to play them completely different.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Spot on the money. How long have you been like this?
And I'm being very very serious, were you all since
I was thirteen? How did you find out? How did
you find out?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
My mom? So, my mom's mom is the last of
the gypsies to settle down and hungry. My mother was
literally a hippie tarot card tea leaf reader, you know. Person.
Both my parents are very successful business people, and she
had a she knew a famous psychic in Canada. At

(32:00):
the time. This is way before you know television stuff,
but he was very famous and her friend wanted an
answer to a question and she begged my mom to
call this guy who lived in Alberta and we're in
Ontario and he goes, there's a thirteen year old girl
in your house. And they said, yeah, get her to
the phone. So I came on the phone. He goes,

(32:21):
you have psychic abilities. I go, no, okay, and he goes,
She's going to ask you a question. Answer it to
the best of your ability, and I said okay. So
she asked me the question. I gave her the answer,
And ever since then I was trying to figure out
where my psychic ability was. Because I'm so scientific. I
was like, I want it to me. What I said

(32:42):
to her was common sense. It wasn't psychic. But I'm thirteen, right,
And how did he know I was in the room
and all this kind of stuff. So yeah, so I
was searching all the way through that. I've always been
fascinated by human behavior. Always. I was quite the bull
wasn't popular for it. Did not like bullied, and not

(33:03):
like people who bullied. I was always standing up for them.
And when I was twenty one, I accidentally discovered astrology,
which I did not think it was going to work.
A friend of mine said, you might like this. Here's
a book astrology one on one, the Only Way to
learn Astrology, actually by Mariam Marsh and I read it

(33:25):
just to humor him. He was a stoic englishman. I
worked with him. I couldn't believe he was giving this
to me and I said I'm going to read this.
I'm going to take it to him and going this
is BS. I read it within a week. It was
just before we had personal computers then, but they didn't
have astrology programs and on a floppy disk, so I

(33:47):
had to fill out a two page mathematical equation just
to delign my astronomy chart, just to know where all
of it was. And I just picked it up like this, okay,
a book. I'm not a bookworm. I don't even like math,
and I just picked it up way too fast. It
just everything made sense to me.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
And did you know that there was a Western and
Eastern version or this was just nostrology to you?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
No, not until I, you know, found out that I
was in my past life, I was a Vedic astrologer.
Then I was like, oh okay. And I tried to
study it a couple of times but didn't resonate. I
get a lot of Claire sentient when I'm doing readings,
and I didn't want to mess with the program. You know,
I had a down bat and I didn't want to
mess with it until scenario came out. I discovered scedario.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
You know what's funny I used to. I did the
same thing like everybody did many years ago, before you
were born. There was a thing called newspapers and you
could buy them and there was paper that had news
on it, right, and so you know, so you go
and uh, you read the comics. But then right there

(35:03):
it is and I would always go to Libra and
read I'm a Libra. I guess you're gonna tell me
I'm not now, but okay, but let's just stay with it.
You are okay, I am okay, and you're not okay,
fair enough. But then I would go and read all
the other signs, and I felt like I could have

(35:24):
been any one of those, and right so I backed off,
going is is this is this? Bs? Now now that
you know? Now, I know what I know about astrology
and I love it. Signs and houses and everything. People
are completely different, if if you, But I was almost

(35:47):
because of my daily reading of the newspaper. I was
almost sworn off of astrology. I didn't I almost didn't
take it serious until till I.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I don't blame it?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, yeah, and are what do you make of those
daily predictions? Because I was reading them every day.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It's Charlatan, it's it's it's general. It's you're not just
your son sign. You are so just You're so not
your son sign. Even in Vedic astrology, you're more your
moon and your ascendant and your north note or your
K two than you are your son sign. How many
it's just said, it's easy to calculate it. Everybody knows
what month they were born, so they can figure out,

(36:28):
you know, what their sun sign is. I have to
do some digging to know the rest of your chart.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
There are probably the majority of our live chat is
fully engaged on this conversation. They understand the they understand
astrology and what's behind it. Others are going to listen
to this show later in the archives who also have

(36:55):
a huge understanding in all of this. You us got
my information for reading, Okay, so let's do that now
and I almost okay, all right for all of you
astrologers in the chat. My birthdate everybody knows is ten ten,

(37:20):
nineteen sixty three. My birthplace, as everybody knows, is Waukegan, Illinois.
Only because I talk about this every night Holly on
the show. Everybody knows everything about me and my night. Yeah, yeah,
every night they get everything and my time of birth
was three thirty a m. Okay, so you guys work

(37:41):
on my chart in the chat. Holly's already done my chart.
Let's see. Yeah, let's see how this plays out. Okay,
what do you got for me?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Okay? First I have to ask you, because we are
live and everyone's going to see this, how personal can
I get in regards to your childhood, your parenting, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Go for it?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Are you sure? Okay? Okay? Good?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I just I just I just peed on myself a
little bit. You may be nervous. You may be nervous.
Don't make me nervous.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Just don't here.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Hot hot, it's hot hot, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
At first, I'm going to talk about something that probably
has happened recently. It would have been about April May, April, May, June. Sorry,
let me make sure I got this right. Yeah, April
May of twenty twenty five. So something in April May
twenty twenty five suddenly unexpectedly jolted your career and changed
your income as well. So it was beneficial to your income,

(38:42):
even though it was sudden and unexpected. It was something
that you had been dreaming about, You've been manifesting you've
been trying to co create and that cycle is a
one year cycle started in April May. It's going to
end Sorry when did it? Yeah? And it's going to
end in June July of twenty twenty six. And that's
another catapult to your career.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Something do you know that? How do you know that?

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Something unusual?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Something it did? How do you know how?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
What are you going to tell me what it is?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
No? I can't, I can't. I can't.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's going to blow you off the map.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
How do you know that? No? Only because it did?
It did happen in April?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
It what what I was just told in a phone
call today about the second second version of it? The
second version of this is happening on the year and

(39:49):
there is a temper, which is how do you know that?
April twenty six? How do you know this? How?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
What?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well? What the hell? Nobody knows this? You know who
knows this? My agent? My mom doesn't know this?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Call me agent, We need to talk.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
What hell? Well? Okay, all right, what's next?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
You're gonna be busy. You're already pretty busy in the preparation,
but you're going to be super busy. And what's happening
as well. This is a movement. This is this is
my clairvoyance coming out right now. Okay, so this is
a movement and your dream about this is a movement.
And it's all to do with what's fair and what's
not fair. So you got the good boys syndrome. So

(40:35):
you grew up you have the soul of knowing what's
right from wrong, but also what's fair and what's not fair.
And the worst thing that you can't stand is when
there's injustice but it's also wrong, like it's black and white.
It's that you know you can't deny how wrong it is.
This is one of your greatest like issues and you

(40:56):
will go down rabbit holes because you'll you've got a
good tuition, You've got a good psychic ability, but you
don't trust it because school was difficult for you. You've
got a bit of what they would call ADHD right now.
I don't like to call it that. I like to
call it somebody that's multitasking, multi talented, multi gifted, multi
just a multi curious person. You had a ton of
questions when you were a kid, and somewhere along the

(41:19):
line you were told that's not proper that's not and
proper to ask all those questions. And so school was
like you had to literally, you know, tape up your
mouth just to not keep asking questions all the time.
You grew up with two parents at bickered back and
forth quite a bit. They would argue about what's right
or wrong, right or wrong like till the cows come home.
That was the biggest lesson for you. You chose to

(41:40):
have those parents on purpose because you needed you were
like a teacher, an educator, a philosopher, even a lawyer
in past lives, almost like a Plato Socrates type of energy.
And you do know, you clearly knew what was right
from wrong, but you wanted to be softened up as
a child so that you didn't grow up telling everybody

(42:02):
the right and the wrong all the time and get
yourself in trouble, which you probably still did anyways. But
growing up with your parents who were arguing a lot
of bickering about what's right or wrong, you grew up
going sometimes it doesn't matter if you're right. Sometimes you
should just stop talking right, And that was a big

(42:22):
lesson for you. Your king planet is your moon planet.
You're here to be a teacher, to be an educator,
to pass on information, to be a speaker, to be
a writer. And that's how you will and in the
public because it's in the eleventh House, so it's going
to be in the public zone. Plus your North notice
right there, So that's also your destiny, it's your mission.
If you weren't doing that right now, as your coach,

(42:45):
I would be bugging you about it all the time.
I want you to start writing. I want you to starpeaking.
I want to start journaling, like anything to get the
word out. So this mission that's coming up, there's a
book going to come from this as well, is a
collective collaboration of sorts that you do have to keep
under wraps. Like even if you told me, I wouldn't

(43:05):
tell anybody, because you do have to keep it under
wraps because if it comes out too soon, it won't work.
I'm going to stop now because I just go on.
I don't know. How does that resonate with you so far?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Jimmy, that's pretty spot on. Yeah, yeah, I could listen
to you all night.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Wow, that's what everybody says. Wow, how is that with
your parents bickered back and forth.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Let's just lead that there Yeah. The only reason for
that is I speak about it a little bit. I
do keep certain aspects of my life completely private.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I understand we'll keep it at that, right, right.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
But yeah, no, that's that's that's spot on. That's spot on.
My parents got divorced when I was seven or eight,
you know, right in there. So but even that, that's
that's even a long story. But yeah, all of that

(44:08):
went down just like wow, wow. But when you look
at my chart, how does it? How does it feel
to you when you look at it?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I love it. It's a great chart. You do you
you are a virgo, but you have a lot of
Libra in your chart, and that's why you have the
good Boys syndrome. You were such a people pleaser as
a child because you didn't want to hurt anybody or
upset anybody. Uh, you kind of lost your identity as
a child, but you grew up and you rediscovered your identity.

(44:42):
But you're fair. You're very fair. You you give people
enough rope in a negative way if that's what it takes,
because you're very forgiving, and so you give them enough
rope to hang themselves. But you're also very fair to
two people like you even though you know you're an
MC in your community and you're a talker, you will

(45:03):
make sure that everybody else gets a stage.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Two.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You don't necessarily have to hold the stage by yourself.
So you were kind of behind the scenes for a
long time most of your adult life until you came out.
It kind of gives me the Elton John I see
source gives me such weird information, gives me an Elton
John feeling where he was a writer and he was

(45:26):
a composer, and other people would, you know, sing his
songs until one day somebody said, why don't you just
sing it? Because I'm not doing a good job, apparently
because he was arguing with his piano, and then he did,
and that's what he should have been doing all along.
So you're that you're sort of got that Elton John
where you were behind the scenes for a long time
and then you finally came out. And most of that

(45:48):
was because of that people pleasing part. And I don't
mean people pleasing like your doormat. It's more about has
to do with just wanting other people to be happy.
Genuinely is important to you. You that other people are happy
and that other people get a fair shape.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
You know what's interesting about this excuse me, what's just
for transparency for the audience. I gave Holly my information
and I.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Said before the show.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, ten minutes before. I don't tell me anything right now,
we'll do it live on the air. And the the
other part of doing it that way is again in
interest of transparency to everybody. Holly came recommended to me
from multiple people and and to my producer Michelle and

(46:46):
people that I know in respect that are friendship. You know,
you got to check it, man, Jesus, Yeah, you got it. So,
but you and I never spoke until a half hour ago, right, No,
I'm sorry an hour ago now.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, So everything that you just I didn't know. We've
never met. You know, nothing about my back, nothing, nothing,
And that's that's absolutely fascinating. I'm a little bit a
little bit shocked and impressed at the same time. Very cool.
How many things.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I'm honored. I'm honored with that statement.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Before you answer yes, is it like this with all
of your clients, think about your answer.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Ask them it is. Every single time. It's a jaw drop.
Every single time, specifically first time clients their jaw drops,
and every time I'm nervous that this will be the
one jaw that doesn't draw.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Right. Of course, I do that before every show. This
is tonight's my last show, this is it. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And usually they they'll they'll pause and I'll be like,
oh oh, and they'll be and then they start talking
and they're crying and they're like, I don't know why
I'm crying. Everything you said was accurate. It wasn't sad,
it was but you heard me, You see me, You
know me better than I know myself. And I said,
those tears are coming from your soul?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Do they do? They do? They do it the way
that I did it, Like just give you a little
bit of information and that that's all. Yeah, until you're blind.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I don't even look at their chart before I do, Like,
I look at their chart right when I start doing
the reading. I don't study it and make notes or
I don't time for that. I do it right then
and there because I need to be spontaneous so I
can get other information from source too, Because there's three
of us in this conversation, right, there's me, there's you,
and there's something else out there that gives me information that.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Is really impressive. That's that's that's that's that's really all right.
I have like four astrologer friends that I talk to
all the time, all right, phone calls, text, just to
see how life is. Not necessarily you know about astrology,

(49:19):
but it will eventually come down to Okay, so Jimmy,
you need some info. This is what's going on, and
I listen and check this out to our Eastern tour
Western Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah yeah, I'm going to say this. And I've tried
to get everybody to be buddy buddy with each other.
They're usually because they're good, but they're usually the same,
and they don't know each other, right, you know what
I mean. But it's pretty bizarre how their information coming

(49:58):
to me is is the same. And I do that.
I do it at least once a month. I make
the rounds on the phone calls.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's that's what I Yes, you
guys are from different camps, but ultimately, if you are good,
you're you know what I mean, the information should be
very similar. And yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I got clients that come to me all the time,
Like I got clients that buy ten sessions at a
time because they want to coach with me. They fire
their therapists because they want to coach with me. And
some clients I haven't seen for two or three years,
and I will, let's say, a year later, I'll do
a reading again, and they'll go, that's exactly what you
said last time. You said, this would happen at the

(50:48):
exact same date. And I don't make notes of any
of that stuff. You know, I might make notes like
she's a teacher and she's divorced and she wants to,
you know, get married and things like that, but oh,
that's all I do.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
That was my next question. You're also a prophet and
a medium because you just took the question right out
of my mouth. How many have a set goal or
idea before the reading? And how many go, you know what,
just talk?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, half and half half goal. I have no idea
what I want to ask you. I don't know what
to ask you. I don't know what and I'm pretty
much anything like anything you can ask me. But and
then the first ten minutes, like what I just did
with you, is the first ten minutes of a reading.
And I said, if you don't have anything to say,

(51:37):
or anything to ask after the first ten minutes of
me talking, I'll be surprised and they do. Then they
want to know about their mother and their wife and
their children. And you know, I mean, that's how I
end up reading for them again, because there's just not
enough time in one hour to cover everything. But yeah,
and other ones are very distinct. They're like, I don't

(51:58):
like my job. I haven't liked to pretory years. I
feel lost. I don't know what my mission is. I
don't know why I'm here.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Now, that's that's a man. That's a man asking. Do
women know?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Women ask it too. They women ask even and women.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Women only want to know about love. Women only want
to know about.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Why to get rid of the By a child psychologist,
I get one of the leading child psychologists in the
United States. I get a lot of parents wanting to
know about their children and their marriages and their relationships.
That's the number one But you're right, number one love.
I always make a joke that all of my clients
that are married want to be divorced, and all the

(52:39):
ones that are divorced want to.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Be married, spot on spot.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
That's about a whole day. Are they be twenty forty
or sixty.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
There was I made this comment. I was I was
out to dinner with some friends last month, and I
they're man, I don't want to give this away. I
don't want to offend because if they're listening right now, okay,
I just can't be specific. Can't be specific. It's it's
uncool anyway. Two women, two women that I mean, noticed

(53:19):
this good looking guy right across the room started talking
about him, and one woman said to the other one,
there is a lady out there somewhere that says, I
can't get this crazy bastard out of my life, right
And I just stopped and I laughed about that. Men,

(53:45):
we don't necessarily go there, but to hear that the
grass is always greener, isn't it. It's always greener no
matter what.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
People don't know what love is. People don't know what
love is, and people don't know what's somate. Sorry, they
just think it's what Hollywood told him it is. I
don't really know what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Is that the meaning of life is love. The meaning
of life pretty much, Yeah, what is your meaning of life?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It's to have unconditional love. But I mean unconditional love,
not with a person like I could look at a
blade of grass and be just in love. And I've had.
I'm in the middle of a bliss stage now in
my life. So every once in a while, I get
in the stage of bliss, like for four or five

(54:32):
days where I'm just in love with everything, everything myself,
which is very rare because I'm very hard on myself.
I'm in love with the blade of grass. I'm in
love with the winter, which I don't like everything. So
we want to get to that place all the time.
For no reason. You see, people think if I got
a job, if I got the money, if I got
my partner to do this or do that, if I

(54:55):
got that house or whatever it is, they think then
that will bring them to a state of bliss. I
know that sounds very cliche, but and I lived my
whole life not in that state, so I know what
it's like to not be in it. But yeah, that's
where you want to get unconditional love, and that means
no conditions. I I.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I didn't used to be that way. I don't want
to use the superficial or whatever, but man, I like capitalism,
and so anyway, I grew this pomegranate tree in my backyard.
Planeted it when it was that tall, right, A little
thing grew, you know, and just that and just the

(55:38):
most amazing pomegranates. But I was this tree's dad. Okay,
you know what I mean. I grew this. I poured
the water on it every day, lotch it. And one
day when when the pomegranates started to happen, massive beautiful,
and I went out to the pomegran I would talk

(55:59):
to it every day. And I went out and I
pulled the pomegranate off, and I thought, did I just
hurt you? Did that hurt me pulling this off of
the tree? So anyway, pull them all down, got a
you know, I don't know, one hundred pomegranates, and it
was great. My gardener comes over and he goes, I'm

(56:20):
gonna do some trimming. I was like, ah, all right, uh,
and i'ment out and he's going up to the pop stop.
Don't trim it. What do you mean you gotta no, man,
You're gonna hurt it. It's got feelings. And I stepped

(56:41):
back and I went, how did I get here?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Who am I?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Hell? Am I saying?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
It's it's it's really strange how you get to that
point when you just realize that's why vegetarians are in
all that spiritual. They kill a lot of plants for food,
they do. They kill a lot. They don't give a
crap about any plants feelings. They just don't. But how

(57:10):
many clients do come to you and go, Okay, what's
the meaning of life?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
And oh, I get a lot because they know where
I come from. And they get to that level where
they're just like, forget the car, forget the partner, forget
the money. I want to know why I'm here, Like,
what am I doing here? What is the reason that
I'm here? I need to know that. If you don't
know that, I'm to tell everyone in your audience, if
you don't know why you're here, you'll not be happy.

(57:36):
And and I'm not talking about you're here to you know,
write a best seller and it's going to hit a
million people, or you're here to work a specific job.
It doesn't it's not about job, Like you could be
a janitor or you could be the President of the
United States. And if you have a mission, you'll do
it in any job. It doesn't matter what you're doing,

(57:59):
you'll do that. But there are a level and I
was just reading for someone. I'm not allowed to say
who it is, but you know, you know this person
and they're way up there and I can't say who
it is, but I said, if you you and you
as well, and there's probably about ten thousand of them
out there right now, have been specifically born to pave

(58:22):
the way, to pave the way. There are leaders, and
they're the ones that are paving the way. And if
you don't know what that is, and I've got clients
and I know they're part of it too, and there's
so many different levels. It's you know, that'd be a
whole another show. But if you don't know what that
is and you're still cashing in the paycheck and you
can't lose your house, then you're not going to be happy.

(58:44):
And the reason you're not you're going to blame it
on your husband, you're gonna blame it on your kids,
and you blame it on your job. But it has
nothing to do with that. It has to do with
the fact that you're not living your purpose. And the
reason you're not happy is because your purpose is a
very very important piece of the puzzle, a big puzzle
of everyone else that's involved in it too, And you
don't want to put a cog in a wheel. And

(59:05):
when I get my clients finally on that track, on
that path, their life is.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Like change, change, paradigm.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Shift, yeah, and they can't go back.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It's so I try to have these conversations not only
on the air for the audience, but but in private
life too as well. I try to lead by example.
And one of the things that I stress, which has

(59:37):
to do with everything certainly about me, is my life
from the moment that I get up until my head
hits the pillow, is about not experiencing anything negative. I
don't do it. I don't argue, I don't fight, I

(59:59):
don't listen, I don't observe. I don't I don't because
it changes me. It alters my day, and it throws
me off my game. That is not what life is about.
Life is not about being a dick. You know it's not.
And when you get to the end, whatever it may be,

(01:00:22):
you don't want to be in a position going, man,
I waste it too much time being negative or being angry,
or allowing that to affect me. All of that precious
time could have been spent with a smile on my face,
which is what life is about, right, And that's it.

(01:00:43):
That's my natural take on it all. And I don't
think I'm flying too far off of the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Target, no, because you do have a lot of libra
in your chart, and libras need everything to be in balance.
So they don't like things too loud. They don't like
things too quiet. They don't like things, you know, too intense.
They don't like things too soft. If you're with somebody
who's very loud and very obnoxious and very you'll tend
to be very quiet, sit back and not say anything.

(01:01:10):
If you're with somebody who's very shy, very reserved, you'll
be the one that's loud, and you'll be the one
that's saying, come on, get forward, meet people. You'll push
that person to be much more, you know, because you
want it all in balance, and so that way. You
don't like loudness either. You don't like people fighting, you
don't like arguing, you don't like the voices to get up.
You don't mind debate. You're really good at a healthy debate,

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And there is such things. Somebody argued with me once.
There's no such thing as a healthy debate. Well, try
to be a philosopher just for one day and you'll
know there is So you're okay with a healthy debate.
But it doesn't have to get it doesn't have to
get loud.

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Church tonight, Holly Hollows here, we're talking astrology tonight. We're
going to get some predictions. And I just had my
mind blown. She did a little mini reading of yours
truly earlier. And if you're just now getting into the show,
you got to go back and and watch my face. Yeah, Holly, Yeah, yeah,

(01:08:14):
absolutely incredible, And thank you, thank you for that, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
You know my pleasure, yeah, honor for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
My uh my astrologer friends are all going to call
me tomorrow in rotation going okay, all right, this is
what's going on. Well, see, astrologers listen to each other.
Oh I wanted to add, okay, okay, all right before
we jump into some other, some other stuff. I love

(01:08:47):
the astrology community and their deep seated knowledge in this right, okay,
But man, do they make fun of certain signs. It's
really oh man, it's really weird. And and I always
bring up Sagittarius. I bring up oh, sag he's a sage,

(01:09:10):
she's a sadge. Right, it's just and and it's because
they have knowledge in this subject. And if you can't
laugh at yourselves, right, But what is it with that,
with with certain signs that that have these character identities

(01:09:31):
tied to them, and and that's it. And in the
astrology community, which is warm and lovely, they if somebody
comes into the chat or whatever, I'm a sage and
then you'll see it light up. I'm saying sad because
that's the one that, uh seems to be a pretty

(01:09:51):
good fun target. And I don't know why that is.
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
And the ones I've heard mostly is Scorps, Scorpio and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Verg really okay, all right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Page, I can definitely see and Gemini I could see
two those those four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Check this out. Check out as you said that this
popped up in the chat, not Scorpios.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's because well, it's there's a
lot of complications around Scorpios. I would say Scorpio the
sign of Scorpio. I'm not gonna say all scorpios, because
you could be a Scorpio and have a whole bunch
of libre in your chart and that makes you a
completely different person. But Scorpio is the actual the most

(01:10:38):
powerful sign of the zodiac for good or for bad.
But it is it is the Phoenix, it is the snake,
and it is the eagle. Those are three. It's the
only one that has three symbols. And I have been
I just just don't know how to settle down. So
nobody's happy with the sage because there's like flighty little
fairies that just want to go around having fun in life,

(01:11:00):
and they they just don't want to settle down. They're
they're travelers, they're wanderers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Flighty little fairies that won't settle down. Okay, I see that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
They're very they're very smart, they're very intelligent, they're very
much into the future. They're very prophetic, they've got great vision,
they're extremely sarcastic sense of humor, but they don't want
to settle down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I'm looking at this. This is just so awesome because, uh,
just bringing this up, you know, has has lit up
the chat room and and I totally dig it. I
was told most of my life that I was liber
with Leo rising, and I have since been told by

(01:11:45):
my astrologers that that is not true. Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Oh, you have a Leo rising and you look like
a Leo too. You look so much like a Leo yeah,
is that good? Yeah, Leo Rising. I have a Leo
Rising too, and I also have my north note in Gemini,
which you have your north note in Gemini too, so
we both have the same destiny planet or the Destiny sign.

(01:12:11):
But a Leo Rising is we can come across as
very engaging, very extroverted. Actually you're introverted, and sixty seventy
sixty fives to seventy percent of you is quite introverted.
Actually nobody would guess it in a million years. But
the way you engage with the public is very conversationally.

(01:12:36):
You feel like, if nobody's making enough conversation in the room,
you're the one that has to contribute to it to
keep people together. It's a bonding thing and that's the
only reason that you do it, and it helps people
not be introverted. So you can take like fifty percent
of the introverts in the room and you can have
them get along because you spark the conversation between them,

(01:12:58):
so you can peg that you can tell that there's
some thickness in the air and I'm gonna I'm gonna
get some humor going, or I'm going to get conversation,
or I'm going to I'm going to get the archaeologist
to talk to the spiritualist. You know, like you're that
person that wants everybody to get along, So people assume
you're extroverted. People assume I'm extroverted because I can I

(01:13:20):
talk well, or I speak well, or I like to
speak when I'm talking about what I like to talk about.
But you're introverted in the sense.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
That's that's also very interesting. I encourage everybody that's listening
right now to reach out to Holly only because of
what you just said and what you have already said.
I have settled into that. I wasn't always that way.
I had no problem being very gregarious. That's a part

(01:13:51):
of me that I just i'd love. I love going
out on stage. I have my whole life. Obviously, I've
got guitars hanging behind me, and I've always, you know,
been that type of person. Not everybody's that way. As
I get older, what I have found is although getting

(01:14:13):
up on stage or doing this show or TV or film, whatever,
I love that I enjoy it. I don't have stage
fright or anything like that. I have a very clear
mind and I can just go and do my thing.
But I don't seek that out now, and I'm finding

(01:14:33):
that private life is so precious, you know, being out there,
being around people and be Okay. I don't want that
to stop. I enjoy it, But man do I love
to get home and just just do my own thing.

(01:14:54):
And I didn't used to be like that. I always
had to be around people, you know. I always to
leave the house. What am I doing tonight? I gotta
go do something. I've got to go. I gotta go ahead,
I gotta be with them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
You love to communicate, you love to talk, so you
you know, you'd be walking around the house talking to
yourself all the time then if you didn't get it
like like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I do now. Yeah, yeah, just walk around in bitch
all day by myself. I've turned into that old man.
I've turned into the old man. I've turned into the
old man, the guy walking down the street that you
see talking to himself, right, he's like son of a bitch. Right,
I'm that guy now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I'm that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I never used to I never used to be that guy.
I fought it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I thought it so hard, and you probably argue with
yourself too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I did it all day today. I did it all
day and I'm good. I'm good at debating myself. And
you know what, when you get to the end of
the arguing with yourself, you're usually pretty honest and you
always win. Yeah, yeah, you always win, and you're like, okay,
that's the decision.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Okay, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I don't even get started
with libras trying to make decisions. Can't make decisions for
the life you because you always see both sides of
the coin.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
You know what I do, I make I make decisions,
but I also let other people make decisions for me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
That's helpful. That's what most people that are that have
a lot of libra they it's easier if somebody else
makes a decision because there's a very little chance that
you'll make the wrong decision for them. So somebody wants
to go to a restaurant, You'll be like, whatever restaurant
you want to go to, whatever makes you happy. And
it's true, it's you're fine. Whatever makes them happy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
So often. I did it a few times today in
some very very important phone calls. All right, asking me
for a decision in my opinion, and my answer, you
know what, you guys do it. I'm a team player.
Whatever whatever it works out to be the best, I'll
go with that. I would rather do that than make

(01:17:04):
the decision and rather let somebody else pull the trigger
and do it for me. Yeah, and that's also that
comes after years of building up trust in other people.
The world is in flux at the moment, and there's
no question about it. I look back at history. You

(01:17:29):
can look back in any decade and see the turbulence there.
I mean, how crazy was nineteen forty five, right, How
crazy was the nineteen fifties, How crazy was the nineteen sixties?
You know? The only chill out period kind of was
was the seventies and disco. But there was always there

(01:17:51):
was always something crazy about each day. But I gotta say,
the world is tripping right now like like no other
point in history in my opinion. Did the chart point
this out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Too, Yeah? Yeah. So there's a couple of different things.
If you look at the Mind calendar, there was a
whole thing that twenty twelve was going to be the
big you know, change of the world or the end
of the world. But you look at the Ethiopian calendar,
twenty twenty in the Ethiopian calendar is actually twenty twelve Okay,

(01:18:30):
that's in our twenty twenty. The Ethiopian calendar was twenty twelve,
so you put those two things together. Ever since twenty twenty,
you guys were the United States. Specifically, it started in
twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. You are in
your first Pluto return. Pluto makes a complete cycle every

(01:18:51):
two hundred and forty eight to two hundred and forty
nine years, so in twenty twenty six, but it's actually
happened then last twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six,
Pluto is completely going to a return, which means that
on a monetary level because it's on the second house,
and about control because it's in a capricorn, we're looking

(01:19:14):
at a complete overhaul of the control system that started
two hundred and fifty eight years ago, seventeen seventy six. Wow,
and everything has to change. The monetary system has everything
that was birthed in the United States. So the monetary system,
the government system, the governing system is going to start

(01:19:34):
in the East. And the only reason is demographics. That's
where the United States started to be built was on
the East. You know, California was way years down right,
So it'll start in the east of the United States,
and anything that the United States and Canada as well,
because we were were not too far behind, has fostered,

(01:19:56):
has built, which is called the Western world, is going
to be just cracked open. And it has to be
because it's a rebirth. It's a death and a rebirth.
It's the rising of the phoenix. So everything that is
not sustainable on a galactic level, on a universal level,

(01:20:17):
on a god level, on a source level, whatever you
want to call it, whatever is not good, okay, it's
not functioning well, is going to be. It's going to
be cracked open. Everyone's going to see it for what
it is. And there are people out there that are
here to usher that in, and we know some of
the top podcasters that are ushering in very dangerously some

(01:20:38):
of what's being cracked open, and it has to be.
People are shocked. They're like, how much more can we take?
Why is this going on right now? Well, you guys
has been going on for centuries. You just didn't know it.
It's always been there and you just didn't know it. Now,
what is good? What is bad? Everyone is born to
be here. Like the people that you hate or you

(01:21:01):
don't like, they're here for a reason. They're here to
play the part to show what needs to be shown.
So the louder they are, the more obnoxious they are.
That is exactly what they're supposed to be. Like, they're
supposed to stumble, they're supposed to make mistakes. They're just
supposed to screw up so that we can or they're
supposed to be very ugly so that we really see

(01:21:23):
what's wrong in our galactic energy. This is good versus evil,
but I don't like to call it good and evil.
I like to call it negative and positive. As a
liber you'll understand this. We need both, right. The magnetic
pull is because two opposites, will you know, attract each other.
You need both. You can't have one without the other.

(01:21:44):
So we do need both. But it's out of balance
right now. The masculine energy, the feminine energy, whatever you
want to call it, completely out of balance. So yeah,
it's ugly and it needs to come out. And this
is the yin and yang. As someone said here, and
we got everything from I've seen someone in a chat
bring up three eye at lists.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
I I just saw that, and there it is right there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Follow it like I've been following it from the worst
go like I just been, I just love everything that's
being said about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Okay, let's circle back to three eye at lists. I'm
going to lead this up so we're both reminded of it.
But I just want to understand what you just said,
because it's pretty heavy. I just watched the new Kevin
Burns docuseries on the American Revolution, and I learned a
lot from that. By the way, I just thought it
was just a couple of things and then boom done.

(01:22:38):
I didn't realize it was a ten year war. And
I'm American. I should know these things, but I think
most of us don't anyway. So I just watched that,
and I watched the struggle of that to pull that off.
And what you are saying, if i'm that Pluto, this
is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States,

(01:23:02):
and you're saying that in twenty twenty six, Pluto will
be in the same position that it was in seventeen seven.
Is now it is?

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
It has been since the end of twenty twenty three,
right right, that's again in January twenty twenty four. What
happened in January twenty twenty four, in the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I don't want to be reminded. And I here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Here's you know, like I said, the loud and the
obnoxious have to come out right for suil sort for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
For sure, the boil has the fester. I don't do
politics on the show. I do the conspiracy of politics.
I don't do politics, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Do religion politics. I know it's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
And wrong exactly, and I don't do religion, but I
do the conspiracy of religion. It's much more fun, by
the way. But if we take all of this into consideration,
and especially after seeing this Ken Burns docu series, that
was a crazy that was a war we should have

(01:24:02):
lost like fifty times. Okay we didn't somehow we didn't.
But you watch that and the struggle that the Union,
you know, the the thirteen colonies, you know, future states,
and what they went through. That was nuts nuts, nuts crazy.

(01:24:26):
And to think that, you know, when we look at
the state of things today, the state of the Union
and Pluto being in the exact same position at that
two hundred and fiftieth year, that kind of checks a
lot of boxes for me. That's that's I hope it doesn't.

(01:24:47):
You're right though. Sometimes you got to go to the
edge of the cliff. You've got to go to the
edge of the cliff and take a peek. You have
to see, you have to understand it. You just can't,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
They were in a cleansing and it has to Everything
that needs to be cleansed has to come to surface.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
We just went through We're still going through it. But
over the last few months, and I think this is
one of the only times in history that this has happened.
We had two or three, possibly four comments and celestial
objects and interstellar objects in our star system at the

(01:25:30):
same time. What is the influence on that when it
comes to not only your charts, but to have cosmology
get involved in our star system all at the same time,
that's pretty incredible. It's like not once in a lifetime,
but once in history time. Pretty crazy, right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Well, there's just so much being exposed right now. That's
one of them which is making NASA very controversial in
the government, very controversial because people are wondering, why is
in NASA showing us accurate images and actual pictures. You've
got you know Avi Lobe, who's talking about more controversial
about what's what it really is because it doesn't and
he's very scientific about it. It doesn't show typical signs

(01:26:15):
of this. It doesn't have a tail. It's kind of
went around the Sun. It's changing speeds. It was moving
towards that Jupiter and then it you know, went off
in a different direction. So it is definitely acting very different,
but on a on a spiritual or however level you
want to call it. It. It's more to show us
that maybe maybe there's some scientists out there that don't

(01:26:39):
have our back, maybe they just want to know more
before we know more. They don't they don't want certain
things to be exposed, like we know, the whole controversial
with in September when they tried to have another you know,
year of exposure disclosure. They had the hearing in the

(01:26:59):
White House and they wanted, you know, Donald, they put
the sixty four page thing to try to disclose what's
out there. It's coming out. It's coming out, and some
people don't believe it, and it really doesn't matter if
they don't believe it, they don't believe it, let them
just you know, smile, wave, let them walk away. But
it's all coming out. It's making us question, it's making

(01:27:20):
us wonder, what really is it? If you take a
look Hollywood's smart, right, take a look at the movie
what was it eight nine, ten years ago called Don't
Look Up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Oh, one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Yeah, I watched that movie that I don't like violent movies,
And when I got to the end, I was like, oh,
why didn't I watch that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Man but the harshest hard metaphor, and oh man, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
A terrible ending. It was I mean, it was the
ending that's expected, I guess, but it was. It was.
It was like The Matrix. I watched The Matrix when
I was a teenager and it scared the Jesus out
of me. Everybody else was going, cool movie, right, and
I'm going, did you know what they just told you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
That was a documentary? Yeah, the same thing with this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
My friends are like, cool movie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
The same thing with Don't Look Up, disguised disguised as
a science fiction comedy, which it was all of that.
It certainly was that Jennifer Lawrence. Man, she was so good.
Leo was so good. But anyway, the the actual play

(01:28:29):
on society, the way that it was presented, there was
so accurate. I mean, it just forced yourself to go, Man,
this is this is exactly how we are today, This
is how we act, this is how we handle things.
And for some reason, this this type of life is

(01:28:49):
accepted now. It's it's really weird. And that that movie
just hit it on every cylinder. It was so good.
Now back to three I Atlas and the comparison to
don't look up. I want your take if it's et
or not. One of the things that oh, Holly just
dropped out. Holly just dropped out just like that. See,

(01:29:13):
right when it was getting right, when it was getting good, well,
it was already good, Holly. I'll wait right here. I'm
gonna say this as we wait for Holly to come back.
One of the things that isn't isn't talked about, is
science is trying to say and to convince us that

(01:29:38):
three I Atlas is older than our star system, right
over five billion years old, possibly seven billion years old.
I will ask the hard question right now, how is
it possible that's something that is seven billion years old? Okay, Holly,

(01:29:59):
are there? Are you back? Okay? Yeah, Okay, here's the
here's the question about three I Atlas. Yes, How is
it possible for science to say that that it's a
comment that is seven billion years old and over seven
billion years has not burnt up everything inside of it.

(01:30:23):
How is it possible to have gases and water and
and and everything else propelling this and doing this and
to have an unlimited fuel supply that lasts for seven
billion years. That I'm not saying it's seven billion years
old either. What I am saying is there's a problem

(01:30:45):
with their statement in this right, And what typically happens
to a comment Most of them fly by our sun
and break apart, right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, And Jupiter actually takes out about eighty percent of them,
so they don't hit it Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
That's why Jupiter saves us every.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Every single day does And it's the it's the beneficial planet.
That's what I think. It's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
It's so coolrology.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
You can never do any wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
It's a drain that everything eventually washes down, you know. So,
But what's your take on three I Atlas? Is it
et or is it natural?

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
I think it's I think it's sent by ET. I'm not.
I don't think it's a mothership. I do think it's
sent by them to observe our reaction to it. That's
that's my take on it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
It's pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
I can't pretend to really know a lot about it,
but I do believe it's it's meant for us to
be awake. It's very simple, like very similar. You know
Chris Bledsoe. I had him on my channel too, and
he sees the orbs for him, their their angels. A
lot of people their ets. We never really and a

(01:32:05):
lot of people seen him. I seen him. I was
at the PSI Games. I seen it when I was
on the rooftop and uh, yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Was crazy, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
It was today.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Why didn't you come up to me and say hi.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
You saw me? I stood up, I asked Diane Hennison
a question. So I was up at the front there
and Nicola Farmers. That's why I went there to see
Nicola Farmer because we've never met in real life and
I wanted to meet her. So I said, I'm going
to PSI Games and she's like, I'm going to go
to let's let's meet up. But yeah, next time I will.
Because that was trying to get to the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
That was that was a pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Oh that one too, Like with the girl.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Yeah, that was just you know, you know what's funny
about that. It's all a blur. Now. You were there.
You saw me on stage for ten twelve hours a day.
I was that was I was worn out. But there
was some highlights there. Do you remember when I passed
out on the stage and fell on my back? Did

(01:33:05):
you see me do that? It was it was either Lido.
It was either Lido or Dahlia. And one of them
did something crazy on stage.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
And oh, yes, yes, I thought you. I thought somebody
helped you sit down, though I didn't think you fell
all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
No, I went straight to my back. Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Wow. I didn't see that part.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
But yeah, wow, wow, there was some extraordinary things.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
I was sitting right behind the judges.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
So you're on that side. Okay, So you were there
when when we brought the colors all the way to
the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
You were over on the y was on that side.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Was that crazy or what?

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
She's crazy? Because she was. She was naming them before
they even got out of the box.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
She was. It was faster than I could look at it.
I was sick, man. Yeah, that was just so much fun.
Hold on, hold on, I want to I want to
pull this up. This from Esperanza. He says, wondering what
Holly thinks of the recent new moon mercury Casini.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Oh, I have not. That's more astronomy. I haven't really paid.
I don't pay attention to other planets moons. Okay, I'm
not quite sure. I heard somebody say. I saw somebody say,
why isn't series considered a planets? Because it's not big enough.
It has to be a certain size to be considered
a planet, like Pluto got downsized. But I'm keeping Pluto
as a planet.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Yeah. Yeah, Pluto got screwed. I mean that once you
get admitted into that club, that's that's permanent. That's me.
You can't get voted out of that club.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
No, like sorry, I'm still reading Pluto. Pluto is very
important because Pluto tells me a lot about people's past lives.
It tells me a lot about what they're, who they've had,
who their soul family is. If you have Pluto with
your moon, your mom came from a past life, get
Pluto with the son your dad came from a past life.
Could have been positive, could have been negative. I can
tell from that with a square or trine or whatnot.

(01:35:03):
Pleu's important to me. I have to keep that up. Plus,
I've got a really strong Pluto in my chart and
I like it there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Well, when you look at uh and I've done this,
I don't know if you've done this, but I have
a pretty good telescope, not a great one, but I've
got a pretty good telescope. And when you look at
Jupiter and you peep it out, most people don't realize
when you look at Jupiter, you're looking at Jupiter, but

(01:35:31):
like eight of its moons. You know, it's a little
mini star system sitting out there, and you can you're
looking at that clut and what's that. I'm not so
sure if we call those moons you know what I mean,
it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Calling it nothing looks like our moon.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Uh, it's it's nuts. And and that's like saying we're
a moon to the Sun. No, we're a planet. So
and Jupiter is a gas giant that could turn into
a sun by the way, and it's got its own
collection of stuff around. Those are just if you can
see them like that through a telescope. Those moons are

(01:36:13):
are huge.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Yeah, are they perfectly round?

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
They're like wrong, No, you don't see them like that.
Come on, what kind of telescope do you think I have?

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
I want a really good one, but the one I
want to expect I.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Know to trust me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
I'm like, I'm gonna bother with a cheap one that
I'll just forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Yeah, the one that I want is uh uh. That's
a tough one to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
But let's talk about what I want in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
The one I want in the out of Comma desert
in Chile, exactly. The the idea for past lives. I've
been regressed, by the way, but I didn't do a
past life regression. I didn't do past.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Life regression too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
You did.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
I do them for my clients.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
You do them. So so I look at I don't
want the past two dictate or affect my future. I
live in the now and I consider tomorrow. That's that's
my basic philosophy. I'm going to write. I'm going to

(01:37:18):
write a book on philosophy, and I think that's what
the title is. So that was a joke. You're supposed
to laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I was like, I want to read that book.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
But how important is a past life to take into consideration?

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Well, let's put it this way. This life you're living
right now will be your past life soon. So how
important do you want to make this life because it's
going to set you up for the next life. It's
important to understand what you came with, like the talents
and the gifts and the and you know, all of

(01:37:55):
the attributes that you came with from a past life.
Sometimes it's good to understand relationships that are in this
lifetime that are hard to understand now, but when I
look at the past life, it's very it's easy for
them to understand, like, oh, that's why I chose my parents,
or that's why I had a brother like that. That
makes a lot of sense now that I understand the

(01:38:16):
past life. I had one client. I put her through
three past lives that's usually what I do, is about
three in one session, and it changed her relationship with
her parents forever in a good way, like forever, and
she was in her forties and she was very estranged
from her parents and angry at them, and it completely
changed it forever, to the point where she actually moved

(01:38:36):
back to Europe and spent six months with them. So
I think it's important to understand and it's fair your
moon is your past life. Whatever Pluto hits in your
chart is your past life. Twelfth house is your past life.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
What is mine?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Your moon is in Gemini in my astrology, it's in
Gemini in the eleventh house, which means, like I had said,
you were like a speaker, a teacher, an educator, a writer,
a philosopher. You stood in front of crowds and people
listen to what you have to say. But you were
very right. You're very correct, and you're very righteous about it.
Not in a bad way, in a good way. And

(01:39:16):
you were also could have been in a lawyer form
kind of like like I said, like Plato or Socrates
right where you stood up and said this is the truth.
This needs to be heard. People need to know this
is not fair. And it was well reverend back then.
You know a lot of politicians then were lawyers and
philosophers as well. So that's one of the things that

(01:39:36):
you did, one of the few things that you did.
You've also got Pluto is trying your mercury, I believe.
Let me double check that. No, marsh in the third
house again, like teaching, did you want to be a

(01:39:56):
teacher when you were younger? I did, Yeah, because it's
pretty much what you did.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Well, that's all I've done is teach. That's all I
do is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Is you don't have to be a physical like you know,
a traditional teacher to teach. But yeah, you were a communicator,
a teacher, very linguistic. Even in a past life you
knew different languages. I don't know if you know in
this lifetime two or three, three or four different languages.
But in the past life you're quite linguistic, and you
were you wanted you. You were like a mediator, like

(01:40:30):
a mediator. It was very important. It was a very
important important job that you didn't at you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Yeah, no, I'm a mediator now. That's all I do
is mediate man, and I enjoy it. I do. I
enjoy it. I have. I remember I was probably twenty
twenty one, twenty two when this started. When I started
to teach other things. I talked guitar for a long time.

(01:41:00):
I taught art for a long time. I taught mixing
records for a long time, recording studio. I'm talking about
flying around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
You're self taught. Everything you do is self taught.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Well, you know, and so what a lot of companies
saw in me, I didn't necessarily see in myself, but
they would approach me and go, okay, could you do this?
Can you go out and do a speaking tour and
teach this? Can you make a video for us and

(01:41:32):
an instructional video? And I always wonder why me? I mean,
there's people out there that are really good at that,
but they really and once I got out there do it.
I enjoyed it, and still do. I enjoy it so much.
I love teaching, and that's what this show was about.
I don't know if you've ever listened to the show before,

(01:41:53):
and it's okay to say no, but one thing that
this audience hears every single night is I'm here to learn.
And if I learn, then you are learning along with me.
And that's what this show is is. It's just it's
my philosophy. I'm not here for clicks. I'm not here
for fame. I don't give a shit, you know, I'm

(01:42:14):
not here for ego. I'm here to learn something. And
I've been learning since we started tonight. It's been.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
There's a Buddhist saying that the greatest master knows that
they have done their job when they're student surpasses them
when their students surpasses them. They know that they have
been a good teacher, and that's what a good teacher
should want. They want their students to be better than
they are.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Help me understand the Acostrac records. Do you know how
many shows I've done on the Acostrak records? Probably, yeah,
two hundred. Ask me if I understand, Ask.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Me if I want to be going down some rabbit
holes on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
So ask me how much I understand about the Acostrac records.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Just ask how much do you understand me about the
Akashak records?

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Not a damn thing, Not a damn thing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
I'll explain it to you in layman's terms.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
My friends. Right now, man, my phone is going to
ring tomorrow, only because I'm interested in it. And I
had a vision when I started to look into the
Akashark records many many many years ago, and I pictured
it a certain way, and all of that has been dismantled,
and I'm not sure that I'm any closer to understanding it.

(01:43:29):
So I'll ask you directly, what are the Akashak Records.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
I can get very like physics and scientific if that's
what they want to call it, or I can talk
in Layman's term, I think I'll give you a little
version of each. In Layman's term, people think it looks
like a library. You go and pick a book, and
there's memories in that book. There's everything that's ever been done, said, now,
future present, everything's all at the same time in this library,

(01:44:00):
so to speak of memories and knowledge and information. In
my understanding of it, I never really bought into the
Kishek record either for the longest time, because that's how
it was presented to me, and I was like, Nah,
that can't just be it. I don't think it is
that black and white. For me, it's just a knowing

(01:44:21):
and an understanding that it's consciousness. It's the one mind
and the one mind we are all connected to because
we contribute to the one mind and we take from
the one mind. So we give books to the one mind,
and we take books from the one mind, and we
give and take information from it constantly, not just us, plants, earth, planets,

(01:44:44):
like everything has consciousness, which we're starting to discover. Specifically,
if you guys watch a telepathy tapes, which I bug
all my clients to watch, because you see the reality
of it and you can pluck from it. Sometimes you
think you're daydreaming. Sometimes you think you just had a
weird dream at night, or you're just got an idea
out of nowhere. It's coming from the Acaciak records. People

(01:45:04):
that have invented things all at the same time, that
lived in different parts of the world even have gone
to legal proceedings because they're saying, you took my patent,
you took my invention. No, you were both contributing to
the Acaciak records and getting information from it all at

(01:45:25):
the same time. So all everyone should have, you know,
should get credit for. It's it's just all around you
all the time. It's in H two oh. That's a
download that I got a long time ago. So it's
in it's in water, it's in so there's H two
oh everywhere. It's in the air right now, right, it's
in everything. It's even in a rock. Everything has H

(01:45:46):
two oh. And that's where consciousness lies. Consciousness is also love,
and love is also consciousness, but love isn't you know,
they are two separate entities as well. So it's there,
it's always there. And for the longest time I did astrology,
and there got a point where clients were going you
couldn't know that. Like I'd be using metaphors like oh,

(01:46:09):
blah blah blah, and they'd be like, that literally just
happened word for word. That's what I said to my
husband yesterday. Or I'd make it, you know, a thing
like oh, like if you and your husband went to Bahamas,
and this is how you would, you know, treat the vacation.
I said, we just went to the Bahamas like three
weeks ago, and that's exactly what happened. I get that
from the somewhere, from source the Acacia records. It comes

(01:46:30):
from somewhere, and it's happened way too many times, so
I can't deny it. I can't make sense of it either.
I also believe our lives come from this Acacia record.
I use a metaphor like we go into the library,
we pick a book, we open the book, and that
whole story we're going to hopefully play out in this lifetime,
and everybody else is picking books and they're all living

(01:46:53):
stories at the same time and reading this at the
same time. And yeah, so it can be kind of
compl located, but it's it's just consciousness. Really.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
How How in stone is the information.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
In Stone.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Yeah, how permanent is the information? Because if you're looking
at forget about the past that's in stone right the
present we're always in flux. But if we're looking at
the future with the Acostak records and we take a
peek at that, the conversation is usually about all the

(01:47:33):
possibilities are there, and let's look at each one. How
permanent are those? And is that when free will and
decisions come into play and then alter or possibly rewrite
the future and our path.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Everything is happening all at the same time. Time is
not linear like we see it on this planet. Everything
is happening all at the same time, and you can alter
it slightly if there's enough energy put towards it, which
means collectively, not just yourself. You're not strong enough on

(01:48:14):
your own to completely change a pattern. And that's really
all it is is a pattern, and that pattern can
be shifted. So if you come from generations and generations
of alcoholic men in your family, most likely you will
be an alcoholic as well. But you can change the pattern.

(01:48:35):
You'll struggle with it and whatever, and you can change
the pattern, and you hope that you do. If you
maintain your anger management. But you quit drinking, you haven't
changed a pattern, right, So basically, and it then wouldn't
take a rocket science to predict that when you were younger,
I probably grew up being alcoholic, just like his dad.
And so these are patterns that we can shift and

(01:48:56):
we can change. And when it comes to larger things
like talking about the future of our humanity, we can
it's already happened. And it's really hard to concept you know,
conceptualize that, but it's already happening. It's happened, it's happening.
Hasn't happened because everything is now and we can shift
it and change it and alter it collectively.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Which brings me back to my point. Okay, so let's
let's imagine something for a second. This is my second book.
I'm going to reveal it to you, so books we
get it. I know right, I've got it written too,
it's right here. I just got it. Anyway. Now let's
suppose and nobody steal this idea. That's uncool. Okay. This

(01:49:44):
is time stamped or eleven four at eight forty nine
forty six pm Pacific time. We get a message sent
to us from a human a billion years in the future, okay,

(01:50:05):
and the message comes through and they use all the
energy that they've got, you know, to get this message
to us right now. And that message is whatever it
may be, okay, And it could be something like you
know what, man, I know you're gonna ask me, but

(01:50:25):
you're gonna keep looking for utopia, never find it. It
never gets any better. You're gonna constantly try to look
for happiness, but it's gonna last for the next billion years. Now, okay,
that's a sucky message. But if that message is coming

(01:50:46):
from a billion years in the future, that means it
has already happened. How can we alter the future? Because
if we do alter the future, then does that message
get sent back to us in a billion years. That's
the part that that's the part that messages with my head.

(01:51:09):
I can't figure it out. It's a very strange paradox.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
You're right, So if you shift the paradigm, you should
not have gotten that message. So the fact that you're
getting the message means you didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Correct that what you're saying, Well, but what if okay,
so that's my point. What if a message like that
slaps us upside the head where we actually grow up
and mature and become responsible human beings and earthlings, right,
and try our best to you know, achieve eternal happiness

(01:51:46):
and bliss, and then that alters the future. How can
that be if the future has already happened, if we
got this message from the future. So when we go
back to the ecostic records you just said, it's very different,
dificult to change. You know, we don't have the power
to do that as individual.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Perspective, right, it's perspective, right, So if you you know,
if you if you see something like this, if you
see it like this, it just looks like a square, right,
Holly is holding a square, But as soon as I
turn it, you can start to see it it's a pyramid.
If somebody sends something from the future, it's coming from

(01:52:28):
one perspective and we're not able to see it. If
we're not in alignment with that perspective, we're not able
to see it. If it looks like a square, we
won't be able to see it. But as soon as
we start changing our perception, we'll start to see the message.
We'll start to see the message. We've probably been sent
the message a million times and never really seen it

(01:52:49):
because of our collective perspective on it. It's always been there.
If you're looking at an elephant's tail, you know in
philosophy that whole elephant right philosophy, If you're looking at
an elephant's tail and you don't see the rest of
the elephant, you probably think it's just like a big rope.
But in actuality, when you pull back and you look

(01:53:12):
at the bigger picture, you see that it's an elephant.
But if you never do that, you'll never know that
that's what it is. So this elephant could keep giving
you messages that I don't know, it needs to move
or something, and you're not going to get the message
because all you're looking at is a tail. When they
send us a message, if we shift our perspective, and

(01:53:36):
this is going to get complicated, we shift our view
because of the message that we received, we are now
looking at a completely different reality. We're not in this
reality anymore, so we're seeing a different future. I've always
said to people that all of our lives are just
like all of these pieces of paper. In between each

(01:54:00):
piece of paper is a life, but it's all here
at the same time, and it's such a thin veil.
They're living with us right now, amongst us, and it's
a very very thin, thin veil. And I was glad
when telepathy tapes came out because it was like, yes,
I'm not the only crazy person who thinks like this,

(01:54:20):
but I never had proof, So I really never bragged
about my understanding of it. And I don't see it.
I've not seen through the veil. I've not seen, but
I do see different. I do see different ways that
people can go. I've said to I've had clients go,
what if I make the wrong choice? What if I
make the wrong decision? There is no wrong decision. There's

(01:54:43):
one hundred million options out there for you, and most
of them will be good. Most of them will be fine,
most of them will cause you grief, most of them
will teach you lessons, most of them will be difficult,
and most of them will be amazing. But they're all.
It's like, what if I turn on the wrong station.

(01:55:03):
You've got a hundred stations you can choose. You picked
the wrong one. No, there's no wrong one. Maybe you
pick the wrong one because you don't like country. That's
about it. Right, Yeah, it's fascinating, right, answer your question.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
It does. Well, I'll tell you why. So we go
to that point for that individual a billion years in
the future, right, Okay, and you draw a line from
here to there, and our path there the deviations off
of that. If we change something, you know, along the way,
ultimately it's still going to lead to that same point.

(01:55:39):
But we have the free So it seems like a
big deviation, but in the long term it's not or
right on that line. And yeah, if you look at
your own life, I do this all the time. My
journey day by day is crazy as shit, right, and

(01:56:03):
I just go back and think, Wow, that was a
crazy and the strike or whatever, these crazy things, but
no matter what, a new day happened the next day. Right,
it's really weird. It's really the things that we you know.
And then then I look at you and I talking

(01:56:25):
right now. That journey is a very narrow path. It
seemed like it was all over the place, but it
truly wasn't. Everybody that you meet, every decision.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Is not in a bird's eye view.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
No, not in a bird's eye view. It's very you know,
it's it's humbling and also calming when you look at
it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
You know, Yeah, no, matter, you have to really pull back.
I think that's why my client's like working with me,
because I pull back and I look at the big picture.
Because you can get really sucked into the rabbit hole, right,
And you can get sucked and you get stuck and
you can't budget and you can't move, and you're overwhelmed
with mortgages. And like, I'm one that can talk about living.

(01:57:09):
We're nomads. We sold our house five years ago. We
owe nothing, we have everything is paid for, but we have,
you know, three or four vehicles. We have a beautiful
place to live in and it's a long story, but
it didn't cost us very much to live here. We
travel all the time. Five years ago, if you told
me I would do this for five years, I'd be like, no.

(01:57:29):
I planned on moving into a house in a year.
Up until a few months ago, I planned on moving
into a house. And now I have no desire to
own a house. Not and I oweda of a desire
to own a house. I don't want to own anything
because I think it's a trap. Like it's just like
why why did why were we sold this picture?

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
We were sold this playbook and we all bought into
it and oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
I'm so bought into it. It's oh god, I'm up
to my neck and bought into it. Let's let's leave
on this. Let's leave on this. Oh, by the way,
we've got your links up, which everything is asked ask Hollie,
you know, if you guys can as, it's all there.

(01:58:15):
But we've got your main website up and inside of
that is your YouTube and your TikTok and your Instagram
and all of that. So everybody go go follow Holly
and go ask or something. But let's let's leave on this.
I'm a big, big proponent of the universe is always

(01:58:37):
listening and watching and karma, which is an overused word,
so taking karma out of it. Let's take karma out
of it for a second. My motto this is my
third book. It's the title of my third book.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
You've written a lot of books.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
You've motivated me. My third is going to be just
do the right thing, and then subtext, never do the
wrong thing. If you live life by that, you cover
all the religions, you cover, teaching your children, you cover
you know, every just in that basic sense. And that's

(01:59:17):
that is an outlier to karma, isn't it. If you're
always doing the right thing, the universe is going to
see that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
Yep, especially if even if you're even if you think
you did the wrong thing, but your intention was wholeheartedly
to do something right. That intention is very very powerful,
very powerful when you eat food, when you live in
certain areas, and how you wear your clothes, or how
you communicate with other people and jobs that you have.

(01:59:48):
If your intention is good, then that's what matters. And
I had somebody ask me, like, what about politics? What
about religion? Like we have to teach our kids this,
they have to know this, And who's going to go No,
they don't. Whatever happened to Just teaching your kid to
be a good person, to think for themselves right and
to have an opinion and just try not to hurt

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someone and be conscious of who they are and love themselves.
No religion, no political view, nothing is going to teach
them that. They don't need it, They don't need that.
They just need to learn that you're one hundred percent
bang on. That's all we need. You don't need any
of the labels to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean my daughter Nicole, when she was
old enough to talk to me, right, she's one one
and a half two years old. I don't know if
you have kids, but you know, she's you know, she
started to Yeah, she's starting to do she's thirty now.
But I started when she was like two with the
philosophy of Jimmy Church, which was, honey, if you get

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to a point where should I do the right thing
or should I do the other? You know? But daddy,
how you know the right answer? You know? You know it?

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
You know I got a story? Yeah, I got a
story pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
So my daughter, she's twenty six now. When she was younger,
I said to her one time, she used to like
do these little fib little eyes all the time, right,
sometimes red handed? Like it was almost funny. And I
said to her, do you know who knows you're lying
all the time? She goes, God, No, she goes you.
I go know, she's like god, I go know, She's like,
who I did you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
No, yep, And that's what should matter.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Yep, that's exactly. And it's so funny how I didn't
have a whole lot of guidance, you know what I mean?
Or you know, I had parent rules and children need
boundaries and stuff. I don't mean it that way. But
if that was the philosophy that I just want, you know,

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right from wrong, you know, and the right the right
thing to do is always hard, Okay, the wrong thing
is easy. It's easy. Anybody can break the law.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
That's also very subjective. What is right, what is wrong?
Everyone's right or wrong is completely different. That's the world
we're living in right now. It's so true, so adamant
about what's right or wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
And and again, why is there's so much wrong in
negativity right now? Because that's that's the easy road. That's
easy to divide, that's easy, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
My favorite saying is what's that? My favorite saying is
My favorite saying is that everything in the world was read,
there would be no such thing as the color red.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
That is true, though, that is true. Holly, You're the best.
What a great show tonight, and I look forward to
our next conversation and uh uh and when our paths
actually cross. But I would love to get you back on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
As soon as trying to get to sorry, go ahead, no,
what was that. I'm trying to get to a couple
of the shows. You got one in Arizona and one
in La I'm trying to get to one of those,
So yeah, I hope we can.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Arizona is in March. I think in Sedona March that's
going to be a fantastic event. And then the one
in la Is the Conscious Life Expo that's in February.
That's a big that's twenty five thousand people.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Yeah, that one might be too too close for me
to get to, but I'm I'm shooting for the one.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
In in Sedona, the Ascension Retreat. That's going to be
amazing and the speakers and the and the way that
that's done. Plus you know what, it's freaking Sedona, man,
you know, and I know it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
I haven't been there yet, Oh you haven't. No, our
dollar doesn't go a long way though. That's the thing,
is like trying to get a hotel and then we're
probably gonna drive there.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
But yeah, yeah, come to Sedona. And here's here's the thing.
There's a lot of beautiful places in the world. There
they're just are It's all over there. It's a beautiful planet,
but there is nothing that can prepare you for Sedona
and the color and the beauty. It's like nothing you've

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ever seen. It's a crazy it's like a crazy, crazy painting.
It's like but it's real, you know. And when the
sun is setting and you're you're out there and you're
looking at the colors and the pageantry that is, that
is Sedona, you have never It's overwhelming, how beautiful it is.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
I'm going to be there. You'll be there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
You'll dig it, you'll dig it. Let me know. I'll
get you all hooked up. Okay, I will okay.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Thank you so much, everybody. It is Askhollihall dot com.
The links are below over in our website and throughout
social media. Holly, enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank
you so much, and go be a nomad. Thank you,
thank you. Perfect night. And there you go, everybody, starting
another amazing week here on fade to black. Holly Hall,

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Thank you so much. What a great conversation. And I
am about learning, all right. I talk about it every day. Man,
get my education on and I turn around and get
everybody else on the same page. What a great conversation. Tonight,
tomorrow night, Jason Quit is back, also from Toronto, Canada.
Tomorrow night, Jason Quit is back for I Think it

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is Quitspiracy number fourteen. All right, So I'll see everybody
tomorrow night. But until then, urmil Jimmy Church and all
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