FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Sarah Elkhaldy

Tonight, alchemist Sarah Elkhaldy joins us to discuss her work and teaching... she has a very large social community that resonates with her style... and her wisdom. This is a truly amazing conversation!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:28):
This Hope Radio for the NASSIS headline of this July eighth,
nineteen forty seven. The Yaudi Air Force has an outstart
applying they found and there's now in the possession of
the YAD air at the game is really changed the
game game. I occasionally think how quickly our difference is

(00:48):
worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat
from outside this work. This is Day to Black. It's
your host, Jimmy Church on the Game Changer Radio Network. Well, well, well,

(01:10):
good evening, how you doing, How you doing? Yeah, it's Wednesday,
December seventeenth, twenty twenty five, a day that shall remain
in infamy. December seventeenth. Wow, what a day, What a day?
What a week? Here on Fade to Black. Absolutely amazing

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and it's always great around here. I really mean that.
But this is our twelfth anniversary week, twelve years on
the air, heading into year number thirteen. I don't know
what this episode number is tonight, but it's it's a lot,
I don't know, two thousand, two hundred something tonight, and

(01:57):
we're celebrating, so another great week. I want to remind
everybody how fantastic it was this week. Monday Night we
had Kimberly Meredith here and she's just absolutely amazing. Last
night Richard Dolan joined us, another great open conversation, and
tonight Sarah L. County is with us and Spiritual Alchemy tonight. Yeah, man,

(02:26):
I need some of that. And then tomorrow night to
wrap up the week, it's our twelfth anniversary special event.
We have an anniversary show every year. Tomorrow night. We're
going to do that tonight. Tomorrow night, We're gonna do
that a little bit different. Instead of having you know, six, eight, ten,
twelve guests come parading through and doing their thing, which

(02:50):
is always fun, I wanted to do something different this year.
I wanted to hang out with you the Fader nots
and just do a hangout and yeah, you know, Ama,
just let the conversations go where they go. And I'm
sure you guys are gonna ask me, you know who
my favorite gift was? Was my favorite show? Who do

(03:12):
I want to interview? Who did I interview? What's my
favorite subject? What's my favorite ufokse? Life after Death? We're
gonna do all the Bigfoot and just hang out, all right,
We're gonna do this for me. That's what I want
to do and dang it, it's my show. It's my show.

(03:33):
Do what I want, do what I want? Yeah, like
right now, and mention my next event which is coming up.
It is the Conscious Life Expo February twenty through the
twenty third, twenty twenty six at the Lax Hilton. The
links for that are below. This is yeah, just another twelve.

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I think this is the twelfth year I've hosted the
Conscious Life Expo. It's the expo and the team and everything.
It's just one big, happy family. It's absolutely amazing. And
we've got a bunch of very special things this year,
including we're gonna do a play. It's called Judgment Day.

(04:15):
We have three actors in the play. It's Danny and Brinkley,
Debbie Dashinger and myself. It's the three of us just
just straight up play and we've got a stage, we've
got that, we've got makeup and just production. It's it's

(04:36):
really really cool and we're gonna do that on Saturday night.
And it's such an honor, you know, for that. I
would think that, you know, when this is how life works, right.
So you hear about a play, you hear about a
new team being put together, you hear about it, You're like, man,
I wonder if they're gonna pick me and you don't

(04:57):
get picked, and you know, and you everybody else do
it and it's fine, but you know it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I get the email and I get the phone call.
It's like, you want me to do what you want
me to act? Oh? Man, you know what their answering?
You act every night on the show. I was like, yeah,
I guess, I guess that's true. I guess that's true.
You know, Jimmy, we're going to put some makeup on you.
We're going to turn you into an alien and just

(05:30):
be yourself. Okay, I can do that. So that's going
to be Saturday night, Judgment Day. So get your tickets
for the Conscious Life Expo at the lax Hilton. Come
and hang out with this my luncheon. I don't know
if that's sold out yet, but if you if you
want to come and hang out, that is always a

(05:51):
great bunch of fun. Okay, all right with that, let's
get this cracking. I just spent way too much time
talking about myself. Yeah. Sarah el Candy is with us tonight.
The show is called The Alchemist because she is all right,
we're going to talk about her teachings how to navigate

(06:14):
the most obscure, the subtle, the powerful parts of the
spiritual alchemy. We're going to do all of that tonight,
the transformation of the mind, body, emotions, and soul. I
need a load of that. So if I get a
load of that tonight, so will you. She is a
spiritual teacher. She's got a very, very big online community.
You can click you can check out a click on

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the link below and head over and check out everything
that she's got going on. She's another team member over
at Gaya with me, and she is amazing. I've been
following her for a while. I would like to welcome
to the show, Sarah el Canny. She's right there, Sarah.
Well what's going on? Hey? Look what I got? Jimmy

(06:58):
Church coffee. See see, isn't that cool?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Man? You make your own coffee?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I do, No, I don't. I can't roast coffee, but yeah,
somebody makes it for me. River Moon Coffee. Yeah, Rivermon
Coffee makes it. But you know, you know what's great
about this? I'm serious? Okay, okay, let me tell everybody
what happened earlier, just so you know. So yeah, yeah,

(07:27):
They're like, where's this coming from. So Sarah, Sarah goes, man,
you know, you know, you remind me of of coffee
in a coffee shop. What was the name of the
coffee shop, Rad Coffee, Rad Coffee. And I go, really,
I go, I make my own coffee. She goes she
didn't believe me. So I just went and grabbed a

(07:48):
bag so you could see it. And I got to
tell you when I got my first that I've been
doing this now for probably almost ten years. But when
I got my first BAT, which I still have, you know,
they sent me a case of coffee, and leading up
to that, they were sending me samples, you know, and

(08:09):
I was changing the blend and the roast and you know,
making it mine. And we finally got it dialed and
they sent me my first bag. I have that on display.
I have the first BAT. But when I looked at
it and I went, mom, I did it. I've got
my own coffee. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

(08:32):
It's pretty cool. So, uh, welcome. You get Sarah the
first time guest disclaimer, and I can't believe this is
the first time you're on the show, but you're here.
Now you get the first time guest disclaimer, which is this, Sarah.
It's just you and I sitting on my couch having
a conversation as friends. And when the conversation starts, it

(08:54):
starts where it ends, it ends. But we're going to
end as friends. That's the disclaimer. But you have to
accept so we can move on with the show.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I accept.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
That was easy. That was easy before I lob you
as softball and and and and get this thing going
you you and iron neighbors. I don't want to give
too much away, but.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
No, no, I won't. I trust me, I won't. I
won't do that. But Southern California is a trippy place
to grow up, isn't it. And you get to meet
just about any type of person, individual soul right, this

(09:46):
is this is a melting pot of things. Pretty great
place to grow up, isn't it. Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I love it. And you know, I grew up on
the borderline of Inland Empire, so I could choose to,
you know, be many things, I guess, and so I
grew up with kind of like a fi as one
of my staple like things inside my high school experience,

(10:17):
and so that's another thing you kind of remind me of.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
You kind of remind me of a really well that's good.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, well that's to me, that's the highest honor.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Have you been there to to a concert of a FI. Yes,
I went to one actually, yeah at Universal Studios. It
was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Right right, And here's okay, all right, you'll get this.
The audience, well, some of the audience, of course, is uh,
you know, from southern California. Here's here's the crazy thing
here in California, in La in La County. Now she

(11:01):
just mentioned the Inland Empire. So we have these little
clicks that go on here, and it's really clicking. It
can be very clicky. It's very clicking. And if you're
in La County, all you do is crack Orange County jokes,
you know, and Orange Counties done there. And we've got
the Inland Empire, and then we've got like you know,

(11:23):
Bakersfield and these Hollywood and and everybody talks a little
bit of smack because even though all of these cities
and towns that we're talking about all touch each other,
there's only a street dividing one town to the next,

(11:46):
but when you cross the street, you're in a different thing.
It's bizarre. And so the inland empire to La has
always been like the more you go like east, the
more country fight it is. Right, it's a different sophistication
that they would like to think than Marina del Rey, right,

(12:09):
or Santa Monica. And it's trippy, isn't it that we
actually have that here. People think that La is just La.
It's not, man, it is. Everything is so different depending
on how far you go, and it could be just
a couple of blocks. It's great. I love that part
of it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And San Francisco always thinks that we care about what
they're doing, and we don't. Every time I've met a
San Francisco person, they're like, oh, I know the rivalry,
and I'm like, what rivalry? LA does not care.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
We barely know. Here's the thing. And my family lives
up in San Francisco and I give them shit all
the time. Here's the thing in La. We barely know
that there's a city up there.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, very fact, Like I forget, like like once every
five years, I remember.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
If they only knew and you go up there and
you say you're from La Man. They the two shows
up and you just and they think it's it's reciprocal,
like it goes.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's not like I love them, but I like don't
remember them.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I remember the first time we got to get into
the mystic stuff, because I could stay on this subject
all day long. But the first time I went to
San Francisco, and I was so excited. I went to
hate Ashbury, you know, and my family's taken me around
and I went up there for Christmas and we so
they took me to the other side of the Golden

(13:44):
Gate Bridge to this viewing point up on this hill
and I was up there in the coldest wind I
have ever felt. It was ice cold. And I'm up
there and I'm looking at it. I'm like, San Francisco sucks.
Why would anybody live here? And that was my first impression.

(14:05):
And it's never really changed. I you know, I you know,
I visit and and drive through, but nah, it's just
not my cup of tea. It's just not like we
barely know there's a city up there. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
We love you guys. We just yeah, we love you guys.
We just we forget.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I've some of the most amazing food San Francisco, you know,
but it's not enough for me. It's not enough, not enough,
it's not enough. But yeah, but also in LA there
is a mix of and I'm talking about you now,
where you have people that work, they're in the film industry,

(14:50):
they're they're serious about careers and everything. And then there's
another side of LA that is very, very spiritual and
very very freethinking. Did you wander into that group growing
up or did you find that group later?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I found the group definitely later, because I wasn't like
living in the heart. I didn't grow up in the
heart of LA. And so once I like realized that
LA was cool and I started going there intentionally, I
was inside what was considered the Venice Beach scene. And
that's like the hipster hippie It's like a hybrid. It's

(15:33):
a hybrid of hipster and hippie scene. And that was
very cool, and it was highly spiritual, so very very
it was like the the cool people of spirituality I lived.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I lived in Venice Beach for a couple of years,
uh and with my daughters and my then wife, and
I loved it. Until I didn't. It was really what,
you know, I just got my fill of it because
it is so it's it's twenty four hour fun, right,

(16:09):
but it's also very very intense and and there's a
weird mix of big money, big money, right, and hippies.
It's like and they coexist. Yeah, it's it's bizarre and
and I miss it, but I don't. I don't. I
love going there. I love Venice and uh but yeah,

(16:31):
so you got you got wrapped up in that. That
that's pretty spiritual. Venice is stru was a vibe.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It was such a vibe I look back and I
only have endearment for that. But it was also very
isolating because they were more like, let's call it I
just to be brief cundalini or or more like highly spiritual,
and if you talked about real spiritual stuff, that was

(16:56):
a no no. And so it was like cool. But
as long as you treated it as it was, it
was stifling. After a while, I had to outgrow it
to actually just become more of myself.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it was the same thing for me. It became stifling.
It just became a bit much. Plus here's the other
thing about Venice that makes it so powerful. There's a
lot of people that live in that little tiny town,
right it's a beach community. It's impossible to get into
and out of, especially on the weekends. The traffic, the thing,

(17:30):
the insanity, and everybody is so spiritual and so strong
that it's high vibe all the time. And sometimes I
like to go low vibe, you know, you know what
I mean? Yeah, yeah, sometimes I want to Sometimes I
want to do some crazy stuff and and and that's

(17:53):
just me. But but it's it's because it's so concentrated,
you know what you feel it, you feel the vibe there.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, for me it was more like I had I needed,
I needed support, not just you know, community. So the
support systems there were so blended in with like what
I would consider and I don't say this in a
mean way, but the problem. So it's like the next
person that you know, you find yourself going to a
really cool kind of like a community event to let's say,

(18:24):
like a vacation somewhere for Thanksgiving or something like that,
find out is like the producer of something that's two
degrees away from from people who you from celebrities that
you might not really resonate with. Let's put it that way.
And so it was one of those things where literally,
if I wanted to kind of be in my own

(18:45):
integrity of what I was learning, what I was applying,
what I was perceiving, then I wouldn't want to be
in such a support system that really would just be
very shallow. And it's all about kind of like I
guess you could call it the look and the appearance

(19:06):
of it, but then at the end of the day,
they don't care about, you know, like if humans are
suffering somewhere or something like that. And so I'm being
very generic and I don't want to paint the whole
scene that way because there's definitely a lot of heart
in there. But I think we're all coming to like
a huge not just Venice Beach. Venice Beach would be
the microcosm. I think We're all coming to like a

(19:27):
huge realization of what's performance within us. And so even
those same people have their own journey and they probably
have grown and realized where they were being you know,
performative and where they are you know, can be more true.
But it was definitely a vibe that I hold dear
to my heart.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
When did you I can kind of for me. And
I'm always interested in this question because I can look back.
You bring up the journey. The journey is very important,
and no matter or what happens on your journey, no
matter what good, bad, horrible, fantastic, you are where you

(20:08):
are right now. The journey got you here. And I
know that sounds so general, right, it sounds so generic,
but it's really really true. So I can go back
and I can pinpoint these key times in my life
where I suddenly started taking right turns and moving in

(20:31):
a certain direction. Did you have those moments too where
you just went Okay, this is the beginning of the path.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Too many times, I know, right, yeah, yeah, I really
could just carve out a beginning at any point of
just a giant block of clay, right right.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
You know? Yeah? Yeah, it's also beautiful because it makes us,
you know, back to the thing about like whatever part
of the journey we're at right now, the things that
got us there got us there. And you know, you
had made it sound kind of like it was a platitude,
but it's actually very true. Those things mold us in
very real ways that maybe not fully mold, meaning like wow,

(21:17):
I change, but they also show you what's innately, what
is natural within you. Many things in my path just
showed me a mirror of who I am, because if
it didn't shape me, if it didn't change me in
some pivotal way, then it just got to show me
who I am because of the choices I made naturally.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Why is it that's such a good point. Why is
it that we have become a culture of everything has
to be instant, you know, order on Amazon, you get
it the next day, right, And we now think that
we can change our life, you know, overnight, and it's

(22:00):
actually a process. Like you said, there's many points along
the way that you could look at and I look
at it like this, and I'm wondering if it's the
same for you, if you are working on yourself, wait
about three months and then look back and go, oh yeah, okay,

(22:27):
this is I think, Oh yes, I get it. Not
an overnight thing. But you know, you take those chunks
in these bursts of change, you know, three four months
at a time, and then you look and you can
actually see it and feel it. And that's the way
that I look at it. Am I am? I pretty close?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah? Absolutely? Like when I get energy work done on me.
I just forget about it. But then I'll remember that
I had energy work done on me, and so it'll
be about four weeks after and I'll look back and
I'll see how much changed. But there wasn't really these pivotal,
you know, things happening in the moment that was like,

(23:10):
Oh my god, I'm doing it. I'm doing it, I'm transforming.
It's something that I look back in hindsight and I go, oh,
I don't have those blocks anymore, or oh wow, you
know I noticed this pattern about me and I refuse
to succumb to it.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, it's fascinating. And so the other part of my
question was why have we evolved into this instant, instant
gratification thing that holds a lot of people back. They
lose interest if something doesn't happen in twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I'm starting to just accept that there things that
I said in the past are true. Sometimes I forget
something that I taught and then when I remember it,
I go like, wow, yeah, that that lady. She was smart.
So my pass off is sometimes like my higher self.

(24:04):
Because just recently I had this question enter my field,
and I was answering it through the idea the framework
of that there are souls here that have different curriculums
in one group, and then souls that have a let's
call it, a middle curriculum where they could even go.

(24:27):
They could go either way about it, you know, like
they could go more of the physical materialism lens or
they could go the spiritual but they're more fluid. And
then you have the spiritual group, let's call it. And
these are very broad So I'm not trying to make
them sound like there's too many similar features because there's

(24:47):
always you know, the free will, and there's always a
bunch of different factors inside there. It's not like everyone
in the group I'm in I agree with, not at all.
But still there's like these there's these three larger groups,
and you know, if we wanted to, we could probably
go deeper into the subgroups, but I won't. So what
you're talking about sounds like, for sure, kind of like

(25:10):
the soul groups that just do not have an interest
let's call it. They do, they even might have a
repulsion to that depth of their soul and their own transformation.
So because of that, they have a different value system

(25:32):
that's a part of their curriculum, and because they have
a different value system and they have a different thing,
we're almost like in a predominant world where it's accommodating
to those soul groups.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
How important is it to understand who you're speaking not you,
I mean just in general, and like who you're speaking
to so you can communicate, you know what I mean?
If somebody is working on themselves in wonder and you

(26:04):
come in with both guns blaring in the conversation and
not understanding, and suddenly you're thinking, this person doesn't like me,
or is that they don't understand you right, or they're
they're not relating. How important is it to understand, you know,
who who it is that you're you're speaking to, and

(26:25):
and to understand their choices in life and their direction.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
For me, it's very simple now because I've been at
this a long time, so and I immediately once I
get those signals, I immediately do not fight with them
because my energy is so expensive that you would have
to pay me to fight with you. At this point,

(26:52):
I have already paid my dues when it came to
you know, we've all done the phase where we're on
Facebook comments and or thing because somebody said something like
defending fluoride, like in a meme. I've even here's a
perfect example in real life. I was in hipster land

(27:13):
the thing we were talking about, and somebody started in
real life defending fluoride, going no, no, no, they did
that because of the teeth, And I was like, oh,
oh no, no. There there are some things people just
are too let's call it. They're they're just not open enough.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They're too taught. They're too taught. Sure, yeah, taught right,
They've they're raised a certain way, and that's you know,
they have. They've been told things their entire life, and
that's that's it. You're not going to reason them off
of it. You just have to accept it.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, And if they do for some strange reason, because
we always want to leave room open for the miraculous.
If I have accidentally placed them in a grouping a
category that they don't belong, Let's say I thought that
they were in the sheerly materialistic mindset, but they were
just behaving that way at that moment, and they're actually

(28:12):
more in the fluid middle grounds. It would take a
romantic partner, It would take somebody, because sometimes just friends
or acquaintances or somebody who impacted your life is not enough.
I told that one time to my friend. I said,
we were talking about someone else that says this isn't
the same story. Now, we were talking about a mutual

(28:33):
friend who just doesn't get it. They just don't get it.
And I predicted something. I said, you know what, s
won't she won't listen to friends, but if a guy
who she was interested in was saying this stuff, it
would change her completely. And guess what happened, Like literally

(28:53):
two weeks later, I swear.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I know who you're talking about. I mean, don't we
all have somebody like that? Yeah, that is just so funny.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
So sometimes it takes arrows because that's how that's how
much the shell is.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, literally, that is so funny. You got an amazing smile,
by the way, amazing. I'm working on mine.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, I already got a look.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
So yes, call coffee. I I you know how I've changed.
It's it's really weird. I I was a happy, go lucky,
very young artist guitar player rock and Roller, and that

(29:44):
was that. I was so happy in that world, right,
I just glowed smile all the time, and then I
just turned into a grumpy old man and smiling is
like hard, I did this, Uh, I did this. I'm
gonna change cameras. I did this photo shoot for Gaya, right, like,

(30:07):
I don't know, three four months ago, have you done
one of you've done a professional shoot there?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
With their photographer. I forget his name, we won't say
his name. Did he make you sit and talk? Did you?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah? Yeah? Ok yeah, yeah yeah, okay, so that guy
right so and it was like three hours right, this
photo shoot and.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
You as a director?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah yeah? He in the end he was he was cool.
But anyway, anyway, he goes, okay, you know, I'm gonna
tell a joke and just smile naturally laugh at the
joke because these are gonna be funny jokes. And he
tells a joke and he goes, okay, smile. I go,

(30:50):
I am what is it that you want? I'm laughing
so hard. It was just so funny. It was just
like I couldn't you know, I didn't get it so funny. Man,
I don't know how I turned into that guy inside
I'm laughing. I can't get the like I used to

(31:11):
when I was a kid. I smile all the time,
I'm just a grumpy old man. Now.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Now see, I got the best smiles out of me
because he was a good director. He was like saying
all these like nuanced things. I was like, whoa, I
think I'm like smarter now because of how he was
directing it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I gotta tell you, they sent me I don't know,
maybe a hundred images to look at or fifty. I
gotta tell you, man, the guy took some good pictures.
More like shit, I didn't know. He a good photographer,
pulls the trigger at the right time. I can't. I

(31:51):
you know, you know if you're a good photographer. And
I just could not believe that I was the person
in those shots. I couldn't believe. Oh, okay, I want
your I want a definition out of you. What is
a mystic? Alchemist?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Okay? So a mystic is what I would consider a
more generic term because it could mean anyone who's in mysticism.
Alchemist is at the heart of all mysticism, and so
I would consider alchemists a far less generic term, even

(32:32):
though it just depends on who you're talking to. But
my audience, particularly your average human being or even your
non average, would still consider alchemists to be far more flamboyant,
in my opinion than just a mystic, and so I
go by mystic. But I got the name the alchemist,

(32:57):
and because of that, I take it very serious. And
I've been living alchemy my whole life, and so I
feel like at this point the universe is initiating me
because it's like, Okay, well it's the name. Well now
we're going to show you a deeper level of alchemy,

(33:17):
at a deeper level. And so I'm just very grateful
all around. What an alchemist actually means is dependent on
who you're talking to. Once again, as we're talking about
the different soul groups, I noticed while having my YouTube
channel that academia does not like spiritual alchemy.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Oh at all.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
We do not like it at all. They think that
you are a charlatan. They have all of these sorts
of names to categorize you because they know the most
tangible forms of alchemy from their books, and even their
books we're using interchangeably recipes for the soul and the

(34:02):
spirit and for metals, and so that was that was
that's known by anyone really who is a true mystic.
It's that these books went back and forth. So, actually,
where one word was being used as a code word
for something deeper, it would also be able to go
the opposite way too. When they were talking about a

(34:24):
spiritual process, they were also being able to use it
vice versa in the in the material, in the laboratory setting.
And so what I always point to, if I just want,
like point blank period the conversation to be done with,
I say, why would it be called the divine chemistry?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Then that's right?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
If it was just talking about metals, why would you
why would it be called God's chemistry?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Here I love I love this point of the conversation
because alchemy, actual alchemy, it is not something you are
going to research and investigate on the internet. It's impossible.
It's it's it's it's that that the real stuff is

(35:11):
not there. The real stuff is handed down traditionally for
thousands and thousands of years. And to get into the alchemical,
to get into that world, you have to be invited
that that that those those things are are are precious,

(35:34):
are important. And I'm talking about the traditions, right, and
the things that are taught and and they're not for
mass consumption and it and so therefore if somebody wants
to know about alchemy or what an alchemist is, and
they jump on the internet. They're being steered in a
completely it's not even close to what the actual world

(35:58):
is of alchemy and what an alchemist does.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh absolutely, and so much of the deep things that
I have learned about alchemy through sources that aren't even
that mainstream, but just me caring a lot, having a
deep passion for this has led me to even the
you know, esoteric knowledge about it that was incomplete and

(36:23):
that I actually had to develop my own cognizance clear
cognizance about to get those missing pieces. And I'm not
even claiming that I know all of the alchemy is
always revealing itself more to me, but a lot of
it I've had to download myself, and it's not in
the public domain.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know. John d is still alive. Right, So you
like that nervous laugh.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
That yeah, okay, First we'll go there.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
How did you know that I went to a secret
castle in Bavaria? You've been there, right? No, That's what
I love about alchemy, you know. Once you I have
I've got a few friends, some of them are yours.
We have mutual friends that are into the subject, and

(37:18):
when I sit down and discuss it with them, it's
usually mentioned, don't talk about this to anybody, but yeah,
we'll sit and talk. And I have never said anything
on the air or to any other people. Yeah. Yeah,

(37:38):
that's what I love about alchemy. So if you're researching
this on the net, whatever, go buy a book in Amazon. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
See, I'm not done with John D.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Like, oh yeah, John D.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
John Dee is still alive. Then that meant that John
D was somebody always to begin with. Yes, it's just like,
no offense. It's not just like I know that aultism
in general. Man, I don't know if I'm saying too
much now, but I know that occultism loves John D.
But to me, I'm like, okay, so let me get
this straight. The angels told.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh man, we're gonna get in it. We're gonna get
in some trouble here. You really want to never mind? No, no, no,
I love trouble. See, but this is saying but this
is what I'm talking about. This is a mysterious When
people go, Okay, well, how can I go to a
mystery school? Where are That's why it's called a mystery school.

(38:37):
Man if you don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
If John D is still alive, then that means he's
Saint Germaine.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's another great subject right there. That's another that's that's
a good one. I went down that rabbit hole for
probably ten years, the Saint Germaine. Yeah, and John D. Two.
And okay, when we look, let's let's go back. Since
we're talking about John D. Let's go back a little

(39:06):
bit further if we go to ancient Egypt, Alexandria and before,
where the footholds of this mysticism and and alchemy started
to not only rise in importance in Egypt, but information

(39:27):
was coming in from other travelers around the world that
were coming in and sharing their knowledge that that part
of it was understood and respected, just like farmers fields
were respected. Right. Alchemy was a part of society all

(39:48):
the way through to you know, Isaac Newton. It was
a very very important part of every town, every village,
every school. Alchemy was a foundation of culture, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah. Alchemy also, you know, always had those different levels,
like for instance, there was laws in place because people
were changing too much stuff into gold. So that was real,
that's a real thing that would happen and so they
needed to control that. And then but then you had
also people who's that one. I like the idea of him.

(40:29):
He has a lot of books out on all of
these different topics, but he always just comes to a
very mundane conclusion about them. I forget his name, but anyways,
he was saying that alchemy was you know, he was like,
I'll give you guys credit. You know, like the Gnostics
were saying that the spiritual dying of the things that

(40:52):
they were doing into a resemblance of gold and then
selling them was alchemical because they were making a spiritual parallel.
They were saying, as we die this scene, as we
dye this thing, so we're dyeing our soul inside this
spiritual se So but that's just once again, only alchemy

(41:16):
is so deep that it's what level do we have
the capacity to connect with it? Because then we'll stop there,
we'll stop at Oh, this really smart guy did a
bunch of research on alchemy, and he's come to the
conclusion that the Gnostics were using metaphors and they were
actually just using you know, alchemical processes more like metallurgy.

(41:38):
That's the most common thing you'll hear is that, oh, alchemy. No,
that was just metallurgy. Did you mean metallurgy? And so
it's like, you know, are what category are they in?
I don't care because at this point, if somebody does
not understand the spiritual nature of reality and how alchemy

(42:01):
is behind that, that's something that a soul. If they're
listening to me say that, or you who or if
you're listening to somebody say that, whoever it is. There's
some things that are not like a video game where
you have to start from square one and you have
no memory and this is your first life. There's some

(42:21):
concepts that are so ingrained within your journey that you'll
know what somebody's talking about and you won't need to
start from whoo wah woohoo, start from the first time
that I was Mario in the first level. So even
with me, I'm surprised I have such a large following
because I'm always trying to tune into my audience and

(42:45):
pretend that they're at that level just for the sake
of guiding them. But I get back all the time
that they're like no, no, no, no, no, I get
more out of what you're saying each time I watch
the same video because it's almost like you're activating different things.
Like it's almost like you're saying something new each time,
even though it's the same video. And that's because it's
their glory of their soul that they can see that.

(43:09):
So when it comes to alchemy, even I'm sorry, if
I've labored it, I shouldn't like somebody's just not ready.
They could think I'm goofy online, they could think I'm whatever.
They're just not ready for their own soul's memories because

(43:30):
I'm there's just like maybe two deal breakers I have
for teaching. And that's what it is, is that I
should not have to fight for a spiritual alchemy. It
drains you, and that's casting your pearls of wisdom to swine.
And that wasn't because these you know, really high level

(43:52):
spiritual masters were trying to be mean. They weren't trying
to be snobs hipsters. They were saying it in that
way for a reason. And it's because a lot of
these forces work through people, and when they work through somebody,
they don't care that they're draining you. They might not
even know that they're the forces through them are draining you.

(44:13):
They might not even know that at the end of
the day that the goal of the forces and the
reason they're triggered and the reason they're doing all that
is because forces beyond them are trying to drain you.
And so one of the most basic things to me
is like, if you don't believe that alchemy is spiritual,
then good luck to you.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well that's powerful. Are there Okay? So if we if
we go back, I was going to say, are there shortcuts?
But there's a reason why I'm asking that, So we'll
get to that part of it. There there is a
perception and I don't want to speak about too. You

(44:53):
tell me what zone I can go into, Well, I
have no, Well no, what I mean. What I mean
is I'm not because I know people and I hear
things and I have very fun conversations. That doesn't okay,
I don't want to share.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I haven't heard anything from anyone.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Good good.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
You want to know. The funniest part, I hope nobody
watches this. The funniest part is that everyone thinks I'm
working for everyone else, and I want them to think.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
That, yeah, yeah, good, that's that's strong. So about about
the shortcuts? So I would say that there's an over
arching view of alchemy and what an alchemist is, and
you have the chemistry part of it, you brought it metallurgy.
Then there's spiritual alchemy. And then even with spiritual alchemy,

(45:47):
is there are there chemicals, chemistry the recipes that you
can consume to accelerate or is the spirituals of it
void of the chemistry side and that there are no shortcuts?
Makes sense?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Okay? So yeah, I completely understand your question. It's an
amazing question. So alchemy is already operating, like the name
of it, the reason for it is has within it
embedded free will and that's you didn't say that, but

(46:28):
you're kind of asking, like I wouldn't have used the
word shortcut, but I still understand what you're saying. What
you're saying is that like does anything need to be
done or it can do it? Or is that not alchemy?
And actually I would say the opposite. I would say
doing something is the alchemy doing something? Okay? So in

(46:51):
alchemy what there's so many different alchemists, so they might
not all agree, but I'll just speak from my own
past and with the humbleness of there might be you know,
other people who can literally mutate and disappear from reality,
and so I'm always keeping things open to that. So

(47:14):
from my perspective and from my knowledge on alchemy, it's
that we have the seeds within us like everything. Just
like how an oak tree at one point had that
blueprint for it inside it, but it was small and
it was a seed. So alchemy is based off of

(47:35):
your participation, meaning your free will, and its process, because
it's what is at the core of it. Like the
foundation of alchemy is saying that you have within you
the latent seeds of divinity. But the process that makes
it alchemy is when you do something with that so
in its most academic sense before I go to its

(47:58):
most spiritual sense and academic so well, I'll agree with
academy in this case. They say that alchemy was when
you opened up those seeds and you expose them to
the forces of nature so that the forces of nature
can transform them into the gold. Now let's take that
to the spiritual way. It's when we go along with

(48:21):
what's already happening. Life is already happening. It's just like
if we if like ignorance is bliss in a certain respect,
but not in its wholeness. So ignorance is bliss for
what like five seconds until we're suffering again. Alchemy is
just pointing out the process that's already happening. You're already

(48:43):
a part of a spiritual process. Whether we want to
admit that or look at it or not, that's already happening.
So the alchemy is consciously going I will go along
with this process. I will go along with what the
evolutioninary impulse of my higher self on my higher self
wants my will to merge with its will. That's a

(49:05):
lot to ask. And so when we go along with
that process of spiritual transformation the universe, now it's not
just psychological. Sometimes when we're in a certain phase of
the transformation, we mistake it for the wholeness. And that's
why I love Carl Jung. But Carl Jung was just
bringing one aspect that was needed at that time of

(49:29):
alchemy forward. And so we kind of now get bashed
by academia because we go, oh, Carl Young, you know,
made everybody think that alchemy was psychological and emotional. But
actually that's a very important part of it that the
ancients addressed. They just addressed it in a different way.

(49:50):
They didn't address it in the way that it was
in this age. So there's always these different parts of alchemy,
and we can accidentally get confused with that being the
wholeness of it, when really it's a stage. It's one
stage in a larger play, in a larger journey, And
so the first stage is something that we might be Okay, yeah,

(50:13):
I need to grow up, I get it. But then
the next stage might be something in a completely different
part of our growth, and the next stage and next
stage until you get to a point in the alchemical
journey where you're literally embodying your higher self.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, that's strong, you know. I'll tell you. I'm going
to tell you two things. One, when I read a
modern philosopher, like somebody from the last five hundred years
to today, some modern manual cont or you know whatever
you mentioned you and I read their stuff, they're so

(50:51):
respected and revered, you know, and I go, man, this
is watered down bullshit, Okay, in a serious one, because
if you really look at the way that ancients dealt
with all of this, they were spiritually and their conscious

(51:15):
was way evolved, and we're trying to get back to
what the ancients clearly had a grip on, right, and Emanuel.
I'm picking out Emmanuel. He's the wrong guy to pick on.
Everybody loves him. But but I I I'm frustrated with that,

(51:37):
with the modern philosophy and the way that they try
to line it up with the ancients when clearly they don't.
They don't they don't understand what the ancients understood. And
so let's back up and let me explain why I
was in Egypt and I was taken to a very

(52:01):
special secret place and it was my birthday, and the
Egyptian officials this was all approved, and I was led
by this priest and security and stuff. When we walk
across and they're taking me to what they said was
an underground tharonic lake and we are in the middle

(52:27):
of the desert. Okay, sanded right, And I'm like, underground
paronic what what? Okay, I'll play along. It's my birthday, right,
there's some special So we walk and that was the
universe right there, slapping me upside my head. I was
being nonchalant about it, and man, was I about to
get woke up. So we walk, we go, and we

(52:50):
come up and the priest turns to me and he
goes take off your shoes, no electronic devices, no electricity,
no nothing, and do not talk. No talking. I was like, okay,
all right, And I kick off my sandals, you know,
and I'm barefoot, and they take me to this stairway
in the middle of the desert, in the middle of

(53:11):
the sand. It's this stairway one hundred feet ten stories
into the desert, down dark. And so we get to
the bottom and I have a priest behind me. He's
got his hand on my shoulder. I've got my guide
in front of me, whose name is Jimmy too as well.
He's in front of me. We're walking down. We're walking down.
We go out of the heat of the desert, and

(53:32):
we go all the way down. Now, let me cut
to the alchemical part of this. It was nuts. So
we get down and I hear the water. I was like, dang,
there is a lake down here. But I can't see anything.
It's black, but I can hear it. I can hear
like waves, you know. It was crazy under the Sahara desert.
And so the priest next to me lights a match

(53:53):
a candle. No electronics, right, but he lights his cand
only holds it out and I see Jimmy go out
into the water. I can see the water, you know,
we're one hundred feet underground, and he's taking the water.
He's throwing it up in the air, right, and he
walks by me. He comes back and he's like knee
deep in the water. He comes back and he whispers

(54:15):
in my ear, it's all yours, like, ash, what am
I supposed to do? Okay, I'm gonna do what Jimmy did.
So I got the priest holding out the candle and
I walk out knee deep in this water and I'm
throwing it in the air and it's cool, and cause
it was wonderful, you know, we're in the desert. This
is you know, I'm just loving it. And then I

(54:35):
turn around and I'm walking up the stairs, and then
it happens. Okay, this veil comes over. It's pink. I
can't see. I'm in the dark and I'm in this
pink thing, and my head's spinning. I'm holding onto the
wall and I've got to somehow walk up these stairs
and I am transported, transported, gone, and I eventually make

(55:03):
it up to the sunlight. And when I opened up
my eyes they were closed the whole time. On the stairs.
I wanted to stay in this world, this dimension. It
was incredible. I come up and I opened up my
eyes and the sunlight wovoom takes over my body. I
am transformed. It was insane, and people were coming up

(55:27):
to me going dude, dude. I was like, man, sh
sh right sh. And so I go through this whole thing.
Now that's that. I come back to La and I
call my alchemist, right, I said, hey, man, I got

(55:48):
to tell you what happened in Egypt. I tell him
the whole thing, and he goes, I'm gonna stop you
right there, man, that's an alchemical ceremony that you did.
That the pharaohs did. Every step of what you did
is part of one of our ceremonies. Going from the
light to the dark to the light, with the water,

(56:09):
with the minerals that are in the water. Right, all
of these things, and the chemical process, chemical that changes
in your body when you go from light to dark,
the extreme temperatures, all of these things. And oh, the
priest told me before we went down there. He goes,
this is where the pharaohs. He's like whispering, Okay, this
is where the pharaohs went to get their questions answered,

(56:34):
and I'm like, man, a lot of pressure on me
right now, right, a lot of presce So I went
through this whole thing, and when I called my friend
and told me, he explained to me the whole ceremony. Now,
this is where I back up and go how did
they know these things? You know, four thousand years ago.

(56:56):
They knew about the chemical processes of the brain, of
the eye, ey of you know, minerals and all. They
knew light to dark and sun. They knew about melatonin,
and they knew about these things. And he said, yes, man,
And that's what blew my mind. And so when when

(57:17):
I talk about traditions that go back thousands of years,
I experienced it on accident, right. You know, I did
all the steps in the ceremony like I was reading
a book. That's you know. That's what my friend said.
He goes, Man, you just went right down this. I
haven't revealed everything that happened or what we did. I

(57:38):
won't do that, but but this was a ceremony that
goes back four thousand years. It's incredible. Wow.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, that's amazing. I have downloaded initiations, but I mean,
you had moved on about like going underground, and I
never moved on like you were talking, and I was like,
you went underground and you couldn't see, and you were like,
all right, so then I'll just do the like if

(58:09):
I couldn't see underground.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
That is that is it's terrifying. It's terrified.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Okay, So were you terrified? You didn't know I was
terrifying to me it.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Trust me when I'll send you a video of me
walking up to the stairs to the point where when
the priest turns around and goes you know, and I
have to turn it off. When you see these stairs
and how they descend into black, right, it's crazy. It's

(58:49):
ancient granite stairs that just go down to a lake
under the sand of the Sahara Desert. Wow, it was
just transformative.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
So water is highly highly highly alchemical. Now I know
I'm speaking to somebody, so forgive me if I sound
like I'm explaining something to you.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I'm just remember we have our audience too as well.
That's learning, right, right.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
So water is highly highly alchemical. And as you were
saying that you were putting, I was like, oh, this
was the ritual m yeah it was yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Water is how you water and fire. But water is
not just a purification, it's a transformation. That's why it's
always linked with you know, gnostics doing baptisms or something.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Sure, sure, yeah, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
It was.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Wonderful every step. Yeah, it was. It was wonderful. It was,
it was. It was crazy. Well, okay, here's the other part.
And this is why I'm gonna get deeper into this.
We're about to hit a break. This is why I

(01:00:05):
appreciate the ancient so much, because what happened to me
was the universe slapping me upside the head, going okay,
time to wake up, man, time to wake up. There's
something else going on. And I just remember being so
in the moment down there, and it was like a baptism.

(01:00:28):
By the way, right, I'm throwing the water in the air,
you know, when it was ice cold water in the desert,
that's like, you know, one hundred and fifteen degrees up top,
and we're down there in this crystal clear thing, and
I absolutely baptized my soul. And I could feel I

(01:00:52):
could feel the heat and the energy in my body
with the water on it. I could feel. It was insane. Yeah,
it was really, really really really cool. But that's only
part of the story. I was I was just going
downstairs back then. These stairs were built on purpose for

(01:01:16):
a reason. That's the you know, they knew what they
were doing. That's crazy to me, the knowledge that they had,
and we just want to just dismiss it all. You know,
like their level of knowledge wasn't there. I would say
it was much higher, much higher.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Oh, absolutely, totally.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yeah, let's let's take our break. I could keep I
could keep doing this forever. Sarah. You stay right there,
and our guest today is seriously alchemists, Sarah, Sarah Alkohaldi
is with us and my brain right now. I'm going
to get it together before we come back after the break.

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She's an alchemist, spiritual alchemists and ascension in all of
those fun things. And I will say, and if you

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follow this show long enough, I certainly have transformed in
the last twenty years, and meeting very special people on
my journey has exposed me to things. And I started
to realize I saw this when I was a kid, Sarah,
very young, you know, nine ten years old, that life

(01:09:23):
there's two versions of reality out there, and I chose
to go find the other stuff. And I am just
open to learning. That's why I go around the world
and hang out with different cultures and try to get
exposed to this. And I think about where I am today.

(01:09:46):
I just I wish this experience that I've had for
everybody to go through it. And so as a teacher,
who is ready And how do you start with you know,
alchemy one on one on the teaching journey? What are
the first steps for that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
That's a great question. What I've started doing at my
own Alchemy retreats where I go into this stuff. Because
if you'll notice on my YouTube channel, like I I
don't talk much about like alchemy, alchemy in interviews like this,
but I really you know, that's what my Alchemy retreats
are about and I used to for the first few

(01:10:29):
years just go you know, the introductory way into it,
so I would start off in like a larger way
before I get into the technical stuff. And that larger
way I was creating it more like a journey, so
I called it the alchemical journey. And I start by
showing parallels between this alchemical journey and what's already set

(01:10:50):
up inside our collective mind through Joseph Campbell's Heroes Journey.
But now within the past two years, so six alchemy
retreat I am literally just transmitting, like almost channeling stuff
and people have to just write it down because that's

(01:11:13):
how much I love this this, you know. But also
there's no way to be in an alchemical process and
to have it stagnant, you know, static like that. And
so because of that, the group that I'm with specifically
will be feeding me energetically where they're at, and so

(01:11:34):
it helps me when I'm in that close proximity. It's
also you know, like an intimate setting. It's not like
a super large, large retreat, and so because of that,
it's my energy field is literally a tuning itself even
more and from there sharing things that sometimes even surprise me,

(01:11:56):
and how do you I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Gonna say, Nubie right, like a newby a nor Mey,
somebody that has an open mind. Right, they're there, so
they're there for a reason, right, that's all part of
the journey. I love the Joseph Campbell reference. That was strong,
that was powerful. But they you have I have, you know,

(01:12:23):
I've got decades of research into this subject. Most people
well you know, you know, it's it's it's it's a
it's a long journey. And and somebody that has an
open mind and they've heard about it and they're ready
for something, but they don't necessarily have the history behind them,
and now they have to kind of fast track this.

(01:12:43):
How do you approach that? Are you gentle with it
or do you have to be very direct?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Well, if if I'm remember how I said earlier, I said, okay,
pay me to fight with you. It's the same for alchemy.
If sounds may be very retreat, I'm not going to
be mean to them. I'm going to be very gentle.
And also like there would be no need for me
to be me or there would only be put it

(01:13:15):
this way, there would only be gentleness because somebody is
doing it correctly. There's so much false alchemy that people
have no idea that they're participating in and that I
could literally do like an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Well okay, wait, wait I like that. What is false alchemy?

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Yeah, this is such a large topic. So I don't
want to only I just want to let the audience
know that I'm only bringing about to make my point
one aspect of false alchemy, not going over all the
different aspects. One of the false alchemies is when you
do not pay for It's the law of equivalent exchange.

(01:13:54):
It's when you want something and you think you're gonna
get it by shaming the person, demanding manipulation, distorting there
somehow intimidating them. That I put it this way, that
that is such false alchemy that I won't even need
to take an action because my spirit guides and the
universe and the divine chemistry will sort that out. There's

(01:14:17):
no demanding into the esoteric arts. There's there's no throwing
around your weight, and when you try to, that's called
false alchemy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
So if I'm so, people buy into it too, don't
they false alchemy? They'll buy into it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
See, this is a large topic. False alchemy itself is
such a large topic, so I was only pointing out
one aspect of it to really just like the part
that is that I was speaking about, like when it
comes to kind of like maybe the the ones that
are most common, right, So I was speaking to the

(01:14:55):
most common where people don't even realize that they're they're
doing something thing that has severe consequences, but because they
don't understand, it's kind of like a child thinking that
the universe has to obey them because they're a child.
And so it's like, well, the universe is aware regardless, regardless,

(01:15:17):
so it will make you grow up to that awareness.
It will not it will not bend, it will not
distort itself to And so the other one of the
other ways is what you said right now, it's when
actually somebody thinks that, well, I can pay for that,
And that would be one another way, a twist of

(01:15:37):
events where it's now showing false alchemy, but from an
opposite lens, one where they're not actually going through the
process of initiation. They're not actually going through the different
ways that the universe or just whatever their path is,
there's so many different paths. Whatever path is testing their
integrity is refining them and so when one of the

(01:16:00):
greatest things that I did not even have to develop,
it was just basic to me, was not being entitled.
I've never had a sense of entitleness in my life,
and a lot of times that can block a person
and they'll have to get melted down and start from
square one. It's just easier if you're not entitled to
begin with. That's not the end of the journey. It's

(01:16:20):
just a great place to start because then you don't
have to go back later.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
No, it's it's so true. And here's here's the thing
with this, and it's it's why I love this community
so much. Is that people are like here tonight for
this show, or at a conference or at your retreat
for deeply personal reasons. That personal reasons that they probably

(01:16:51):
don't talk about, but they know, and they're stuck in
there in chapter one, act one of the Hero's Journey
and they don't they don't know, but deeply personal reasons,
and they want growth and they want to figure things out.
And suddenly that's also a vulnerable person and there are

(01:17:16):
people out there that will take advantage of that, and
they because of the sensitive moment that they're in, they
think that this is also part of the journey. When
that is simply not the case. If you're not around
somebody that has high vibration and good intention, then you
probably are in the wrong environment and you need to

(01:17:38):
go and seek somebody else out. And I'm saying very
offensive things right now, but it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
It's oh why I love what you're saying. It's so
true it needs to be said. Yeah, yeah, because there's
so much with everything, Like the predator energy works both ways.
It works inside somebody who is, you know, internally increasing
their power of influence, and it works the opposite way.

(01:18:11):
So this energy of predator and victim really mutate into
one another. And the only thing that I look for
is the sure shot sign because everything is wild, wild
west out there. When it comes to being able to
see this. You'll see people in completely powerless positions be

(01:18:32):
highly predatorial just as much as you see people in
powerful positions. And so because of that, what I look
for is, like, who really enjoys being the victim? Because
true victims are true, but they don't enjoy it. So
when you see somebody constantly being a victor, yeah, in
whatever respect, you know, like, I've gone through so much stuff.

(01:18:56):
But I'm talking career wise. I'm not even talking about
like in my person I've gone through so much stuff,
and all I think of is the double Leo in
me is the show must go on. The audience must
have this thing. Trust me. Sometimes people even tell me
like you're not personal enough, and I go, look, this

(01:19:17):
is for people who want to learn the stuff, not
you know, feel better about themselves because I talk about
how vulnerable I am. But this is for Sarah in
the past who wants to understand stuff. So it's also
knowing like, oh, where to go for what you're looking for?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
You know that's that you know that what you just said,
that was real ascension right there to make that move,
and that's a that's a that's a tough move to
make on a personal journey and looking at yourself. That's
and I love that about you. But I also went
through the exact same thing. And I've had so many

(01:19:58):
people go church. You need to share the personal side
of your journey like that. People don't need to hear that.
Why what what's what's the point in that? I think
that the the the best thing that I can do,
because I teach on this show that's what I do

(01:20:20):
right right, I'm here, We're all going to school together,
and just show what you can be and how to be.
Don't don't trip on the past, don't play the victim card,
and and don't tie yourself to negativity. If you can
start there, that's where the journey can actually begin for you,

(01:20:42):
and then you can go off and and and figure
stuff out on your own. But it took me a
while to get to that point. I would I didn't
us to be like this, I send it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
You, but but I did want to So I did
want to just say something because then it'll sound out
of context. Why I said I would be gentle is
because if someone's paying to learn something, they're coming correctly,
there'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
No need to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Be like, how do you not know that? Like they're
doing that beautiful thing where they're being open and allowing
things to be learned. Still, how much of us have
closed for one reason or another, And so I find
that beautiful And it's no skin off my back. Absolutely effortless.
It would require work to be rude. It's effortless to

(01:21:41):
be like, Okay, how can I tune into them and
then have it mean something for them? Not me. That's
what my retreats really are about. It's sometimes I'll talk
about the Philosopher's Stone for hours, sometimes I won't. It's
really based off of the collective that I'm with there
and their energies of what will they get the most

(01:22:03):
out of because alchemy, as you know, is such a
large topic and there's only so much time and a retreat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Yeah, yeah, I was sitting with an alchemist. You're just
just listen. We're sitting. I can't say any more than that.
But we're sitting in a restaurant, nice place, right, and
we're sitting there. We're having this conversation and he leans
over to me and he goes, okay, man, there's somebody

(01:22:33):
here that is five hundred years old. I said, what, right, now,
let's find him. I said, what are you talking about?
He said, they are around us and now so so

(01:22:57):
just the mention of this, you know, makes you back up.
Now you're scanning the room, right, you know, you're scanning
the room. You're wondering if this is some kind of
metaphor or is this actual? Does he literally mean you know,
somebody here is five hundred years old, and are these

(01:23:25):
And I said, so, what are you talking about? So
then he walks me through I'm not an initiation ceremony,
and he walks me through it and he tells me
about it. I went really all right, and it was
such it was such a new subject to me and

(01:23:48):
a new information, is what I mean. I've never heard
this before. And then you find out you get into
things like faulcon La and right, the mysteries. I don't
think I could do. You want to do a show
on Falconelly, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
I would love to Falconelley's where I get the Falconelly
is the source I trust the most, and it's the
closest to being something that a person has that then
you'd have to be initiated.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Just what what a dude? What a dude? He's still around?
I think falcon is still here, No, for sure, Yeah,
he's at that castle in Bavaria. I was talking about it.
Oh it's there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've said too much.
That's secret stuff. But but so when you, you know,

(01:24:39):
you jump into this and you really start to wonder
how how fun, how cool, and how secret and how
privileged the alchemical world it truly really is. It's it's
a fascinating subject to me fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Oh absolutely, I did just want to say one thing
because it's going to bother me. And that's I didn't
when I said, like, is there you know a shortcut
or something like that. Alchemy is the art of perfecting nature.
That's part of like what it is. So what's inherent
to alchemy is the concept that nature can only evolve

(01:25:25):
you to such a degree until there's this let's call
it this critical point. And at this critical point it
now requires your conscious participation. Just like how you cannot
rob a child of learning how to walk by just
holding them around. They have to go through that process

(01:25:46):
of falling and then developing the motor abilities to to
now balance and create an equilibrium and what have you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
The idea of alchemy is that nature sure can take
you so far until it's this genes sequah, this this higher,
this higher impulse within you that then now starts through
the feedback loop. I'm sorry if that's too complicated, but

(01:26:18):
through the feedback loop of your higher self and you
now in this part this free will actions, this participation,
and so sometimes predeterminism could sound very beautiful, and sometimes
what it's referring to is a very automated reality.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I don't dig it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
I don't either. It's very automated. It's like, yeah, everything's
already happened. Shouldn't you be happy everything's already happened. That's
literally the the idea that is the mind of a robot.
Everything's already it's an automation, and you should just put
poetry on top of it and be happy. Alchemy is
the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
It is the act opposite of that. When the hard
sciences doesn't matter, chemists, biologists, physicists, whatever it is, gets
into that conversation, they are so ingrained in that thought process,

(01:27:19):
which is very simply put, atoms then, atoms now, atoms
in the future are all determined by the Big Bang,
and they are going to do what they are going
to do. The thoughts you are having now are pre determined.

(01:27:42):
You have no free will. That is their mantra. Yeah,
that is their mantra. They live by that. It's it's
it's insane to me. And just to just to say
those things that they say is an example of free will.
Do you have free will to say what you are saying?

(01:28:03):
But they will deny that. No, I was going to
say it anyway bullshit, But it isn't that crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
It shows you the impulses. Everything has impulses, working through them,
it shows you the impulses. There's so much that in
a day's time. But I'm quiet. There's so much that
I am clocking. I'm just quietly in my head clocking
because a lot of it wants your energy. A lot

(01:28:32):
of it knows that you know something, because it can't
stand your silence even so you're damned if you speak,
You're damned if you don't, and it just can feel
you feel it, and so it wants your energy because
that's the best it can do. If it can't make
you see it differently, then it just wants to rain. Yeah,

(01:28:53):
but there's so much in a day's time where I'm
just clocking impulses.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
How do you okay? So oh, I love where this
is going? So how do you experience that first wave
of ascension? And let me preload that because that's a
big ask question I realized. But is it doing what

(01:29:21):
you're saying right there, not recognizing negative thoughts and negative
energy and negative people and negative atmosphere. Stepping through that,
then do you start to see or feel the first
wave of ascension.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
That's a great question. That can be one way. I
don't want to negate that way. How I perceive it
is that we come to a point in our own
awareness of the world where we exhaust ourselves out of
mental and physical and even emotional level. That exhaustion starts
to now come up with new perceptions simply because it's

(01:30:04):
so tired that it can no longer maintain fighting the
outside world. So at that point we turn inward and
we go this is a spiritual war. We have to
tend to the spirit. At that point, a person is
now in the first wave of ascension. Before then, they
are doing beautiful work. They are aware of things, and

(01:30:29):
they're doing a lot of actions like making comments trying
to get through to people that fluoride is not that
good for you. They're doing things to change the outside world.
So that's why they serve a purpose. Many times you'll
see I'll even say now that I'm seeing this more

(01:30:49):
and more, you're seeing competition where there could be harmony collaboration,
simply because whether it's a spiritual teacher or a professor,
or whoever it is who has a platform, they're not
understanding that it's an ecosystem that enhances synergy. So instead

(01:31:11):
they have the Watiko virus. Still they have the make
this person's thing look bad because I'm unworthy. So because
of that, where I'm coming from is a holistic framework
where everything serves something. People who have that emotional bandwidth

(01:31:33):
and energy still to rage upon the machine should do so.
And they're helping me. They're not against me. When I'm teaching,
it's not it should not be oppressing someone else. It
should be helping those who resonate. It's not ever to
demean someone else. So and if it is, it's only
because somebody's being triggered out of their programming. So sometimes

(01:31:57):
I'll feel called to go really hard on something, and
it's because i don't know what's going on. I'm not
personally tuning in. I'm getting from the universe that this
is helping the universe with some people. So to do
that because I meant to look like the villain, I'm
meant to agitate, it's helping. So even the ecosystem is

(01:32:20):
to not always be concerned with looking good.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Well, a wise man once said, when you're wrong, you learn.
It's such a big statement, very few words, but if
you're wrong and you were corrected or you found out
the reality and the truth, that means you learned something.

(01:32:48):
And it's a crazy concept. Nobody wants to be wrong.
And people that say, and including leaders and spiritual leaders,
that I'm right and you're wrong, I look the other way.
It's it's it's it's it's insane how quickly I can
tune out. I want to have spirited discussion. I want

(01:33:13):
a little angst. I want a little disagreement because that's
how I grow, and that's how they would grow. You
can't sit around and be in agreement with somebody all
day long.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Yeah, then we will ever get seen, you know where
we can still.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Grow now, second part of the question, the first wave,
the first wave of ascension. What's that like?

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Yeah, so, so the ecosystem now has become exhausted from
battling the external and starts turning within. That is when
the first wave of ascension starts to really become the alchemist.
They become the alchemist at that point because they start

(01:34:00):
becoming manipulators, harnessers of energy, harnessers. They start harnessing energy.
They understand that they've learned so much from their paths
so once again they're wise enough to not negate. They
see how that served that to get to that, and
if all else failed, then something was fertilizer. So all

(01:34:24):
of it went to something. But at now, at this point,
it's hard to ask people sometimes to do this because
you'll either have people who are one too willing and
not too willing. They're not too willing to give up
their identity, which is why they usually have to enter
the first way through exhaustion, or two they're too eager,

(01:34:46):
meaning that they wanted to somehow not learn the trials
and tribulations or about the world in order to get there.
But if a person genuinely has it within them to
now realize that their service is being called to a
higher level, to a different level, then that's the first
wave of ascension, and it's massively heart based. But that

(01:35:08):
does not mean that the levels before that were not
heart based. They were just heart energy extended outward in
certain ways more I would say the warrior. And then
when you get to the first wave of ascension, sure
you could still call it a spiritual warrior, but at
that point you're far more powerful. I would call it

(01:35:28):
an alchemist. At that point, if somebody resonates with that,
you would need to kind of graduate from warrior into
alchemists because it's all about energy. It's all about energy,
and the more people that know that it's all about
energy are able to help transform a collective reality or

(01:35:49):
and definitely theirs to be.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
In that stage, you have to, Man, I'm trying to
figure out a way to say this where I don't
come off as a dick. You you cannot lie to yourself, yeah, right,
you you know what I mean. Don't bullshit yourself. You

(01:36:17):
have to let go. Honesty inside your with yourself is
the only way any of that is going to happen.
Because if you're still lying to yourself, if you're still
you know, if you're not being truthful, you're not being
honest with yourself, then all of this is pointless.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Yeah, it's also not fun.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
It's you can't tell too. Have you been around somebody
that's that's that's faking it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Energy draining just to even help maintain whatever falseness they want.
It'll be something, it'll be in orbit. It needs batteries
to confirm its falseness, so it can't even sustain itself.
It can't even be false like alone in its living room,
like it needs to be around people. And that's the

(01:37:11):
most cringe part of it, because it's like, Okay, could
that be false somewhere else? But it's false, and that's
why it needs others constantly. I've thought about this too,
because as you know, I've grown more popular, Yes you have.
I've healed a lot through that because what was once
weirdness is now hey, that geels weird and I love it.

(01:37:34):
So I've healed a lot through that. But with that
has come a lot of increase in influence and power.
And I've sit with myself and go, can I enjoy
myself without any of this? And I go, yeah, I can.
I love what I'm doing, but it's not because I
need it to validate that I'm an alchemist. I don't
even talk about alchemy all life. I go like, what

(01:37:55):
would you do if you were retired to enjoy yourself? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Stop? Stop? Stop right there? Stop that That is some
of the most important, you know, advice, things that you
can say right there. And when I explain to people,
how do I do this with without ego? When I
try to explain to people, especially not explain if I

(01:38:25):
could to the critics or to this or that or
whatever that look at me in my career and if
they really honestly saw walk today in my shoes and
saw what I I do not. I take myself seriously
when I'm on the air, I take myself seriously. I'm

(01:38:46):
a professional when I'm on camera, or when when I'm
out being professional at a conference or whatever. Yes, all right,
yes I'm that guy. The rest of the time, I'm
living life without negativity. I'm away from this. I don't
take my I don't walk around going man fucking Jimmy Church. No, man,

(01:39:14):
I'm writing around or I'm by myself. I'm not around
a bunch of yes people. You know, I'm doing my
own thing, being myself. And what you know, what would
I do if I was retired. I do what I'm
doing right now. Yeah, I'd be doing everything. And that's
it's so important. It's so important, and I try, I

(01:39:38):
try my best. If you teach that and you get
that that basic understanding in people, it's such a huge
step for anybody that's that's on this path that wants growth.
So important.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Yeah, oh no, it's the whole thing because then it's
the difference between living out life through a filter her
of an image of you versus getting to touch life
as your essence.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Yeah. Wow, so heavy. I just popped this. Uh uh, Sarah,
do you have any do you ever do a virtual class?
You know, you've got with them teachings, you've got everything
that you're doing, and you have the retreats. But do
you do virtual stuff too?

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
No, I am. I am currently in the process of
thinking of how to expand my offerings. Yeah, I know,
Gya wants me. Gia asked if I have any courses,
they'd be happy to share it on the marketplace. So
now I'm thinking I'm focusing now on what kind of

(01:40:43):
courses to create online.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Yeah, you got to start with one on one, you
know what I mean. You got to start basic and
just go through. But just be yourself. People would would
love it. It's so hard to find the real stuff,
you know, and and somebody that is on that hero's journey,

(01:41:09):
they're so excited about it, and it's too easy to
get trapped down the wrong road, you know, and then
you have to make it. You turn. Now. I was
talking about negativity earlier, and so were you, and negative thoughts.
What about negative friends, friends that are around you playing

(01:41:34):
the victim card, always angry, always this, you know this,
negative are around them, pulling you into their bubble. How
important is it to cut those friends loose?

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
I cannot even like one hundred percent, and it will
hold back your opportunities because if you especially what you're doing,
no pressure. But so I'm trying to make it universal,
not just for spiritual teachers or spiritual you know people.

(01:42:11):
But it is a little different depending on the arena.
So I'll just stick to this arena since this is
what the audience, you know, the arena the audience is in.
It is absolutely vital because it will even impact your dharma.
It will impact your purpose if you are entertaining people

(01:42:32):
in your life. That let's call it as you said,
I won't put any any twists on it. Let's say
like negative people that are your friends. Okay, So just
going off of negative people that are your friends, that
sentence in whatever that means to the audience. Then what
that's gonna do is have somehow your interference of their karma.

(01:42:55):
You are somehow delaying their karma. You are somehow saying
I will be in the way of this person's karma
or I will be in their karma. So whether the
karma is all and I don't mean that even in
a bad way, it'll just be like, oh, the karma
can be beautiful. Sometimes it will be like I'm the teacher,
or I'm the one that gives you a pep talk,

(01:43:16):
I'm your inspiration, I'm the one that goes and gives
you that you know, positive outlook. Okay, that's fine. You
know people need friends that they can be real with.
But let's say that this person has a chronic tendency.
That's the only thing I'll put on top of that. Yes,
the chronic tendency of being negative, and you're around them,
you are now delaying your own karma by being inside

(01:43:38):
their own lessons and their own I'm doing this trying
to think of a word.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
For bubble bubble. Bubble bubble is a word bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Yeah, And so it's actually very important for a person
to be in in a high resonance. I don't want
to say perfect, because perfect what is that? In high
resonance with their company? And I don't mean resonance meaning
they agree with everything that they're saying. I'm talking about
if a person is being shady, and you sign off

(01:44:09):
on that because you've agreed that you'll still be friends.
Even though you could see all that shadiness and stuff
like that. You're now saying, hey, universe, send me people
to disrespect me. So you're now because I clearly won't.
I won't tell them that I see what they're doing.
So send me more people that will disrespect me, and

(01:44:31):
then I won't tell them I see what you're doing.
So you're looking for people now who aren't like in
resonant equivalent with you. What you're doing now is babysitting,
and you there will be karma implications for that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
You're so wise, young one, you're so.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
Wise one four As you said that, ye.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Right, right, right, right right, But here it is one
of the most difficult things to do because you know
you nurture a friendship and you know you can. But
at some point point I kind of look at it.
I'm and expand on your thought that you said, it's
like trying to walk, trying to run in a swimming pool.

(01:45:13):
You can't do it. The water's holding you back. That's
what negative people are doing. They're pulling you back there,
they're keeping you from moving forward, and at some point
you know you're dragging this luggage around with you. You've
just got to turn around and start cutting cutting the
strings on that luggage and let that samsonite luggage go,

(01:45:37):
because now all of a sudden, You know how when
you get out of a pool, you try to run
in the pool, but then you get out and you
walk and you're like, oh shit, this is easy. Well,
it's the same thing when you start to cut loose
of this negative bubble that is around you, Suddenly you
can move and you are free.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Oh absolutely, And you're also now broadcasting a more healthy
signal to the universe, like, hey, universe, these are my standards.
People think that standards are are bad, and let me
tell you something. People who love to play the victim
too much. That's of warning, right. There also people who

(01:46:18):
get triggered by the term standards. Because if anyone came
to me and said, Sarah, I have high standards, I
would never be triggered by that term. I would go Okay.
People project all of these crazy things about standards when
you say it, and it's all showing you they're telling
on themselves, because standards doesn't mean anything bad.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
It's almost it's almost narcissistic in a way. It almost is.
It's like bragging. It's like bragging I have high standards.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
What I don't right, But if somebody came up to
me and said I have high standards, I wouldn't care.
I would say good for you. Oh, was triggered by
the term standards. I'm not triggered by the term standards. Jimmy.
If you said, Sarah, you know I really have high standards,
you would never trigger me. I would go good for him.

(01:47:12):
I'm gonna wait to hear. He's probably gonna explain what
he means, and I would just listen to what you're
talking about, Like when, okay, I'll give you I'll give
you a context.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
If I would have known that, if I would have
known that earlier today, I would have said to you, Okay, Sarah,
the show has very high standards. Can I who here?

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Should I take my leather jacket off and put on
my swede jacket?

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Yeah, exactly, I would meet.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
I would try to meet those steps whatever that meant.
So there's this popular meme it's high standards protect you
from low quality experiences. This is a teaching moment. So
I'm not just on a rant. I'm intentionally saying this
for the audience. High standards protect you from low quality experiences.

(01:48:06):
Every time I post it, I see so many people
telling on themselves. They project all these things like somebody's
too tight, somebody's too well, And I'm like, oh, this
is somebody who's triggered by the term standards. Let me
tell you there's a lot if somebody's triggered by the
term standards, because that term is healthy. It doesn't mean

(01:48:28):
that somebody's being avoidant bypassing this, and that these are
people that want to get through to somebody and they
can't because their standards are too high. Standards are just
a reflection of your self love. Standards don't inherently mean
that you are harsh. They don't mean any of that.
That's our own projections. Standards just mean, hey, I can't

(01:48:50):
continue to tell the universe that I'll entertain anything for
the sake of anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Aren't you impressed? No, I should say, how impressed are
you with what seems to be an evolving world that
we are in, where these ideas now are not taboo
or you know what I mean. I saw a headline
the other day somebody sent it to me about the

(01:49:21):
new religion of witchcraft, how it's taking hold now and
so so witchcraft right, it's got this thing about it.
But I think the point to that is minds are
opening now. Where you brought up, you know, a material

(01:49:43):
side of existence, and we kind of did that, you know,
for almost two thousand years where technology and things started
a value started to change and material things were part
of growth, as you know on your journey, and so
much was put into that. Well we lost sight of

(01:50:04):
the spiritual side of life and what is going on,
consciousness and the soul and the universe, and we just
lost control of that. Capitalism comes in. I get it,
you know, I like nice cars, you know, I understand.
Look as I say, that is sitting in front of
fifty guitars, right, So it's not like it's not like

(01:50:25):
I don't. But are you impressed? How do you feel
about the world going through this evolutionary process today?

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
I'm very impressed because I see everything as serving everything.
For instance, if somebody right now is into those topics
we were just talking about with needing to now cut
people off, there's now you know, narcissist coaches or awareness

(01:50:57):
people and or just there's a lot of free resources
for wise people in fields about covert forms of manipulation.
And so if somebody doesn't even want to start off
in the esoteric, there's resources for personal development. Now they
want to go into deeper things, and then there's resources

(01:51:19):
for that too. I'm not saying all the resources are equal,
you know, and anyone who talks about psychology is the same.
But the point is is that everything's on the table now,
and I'm impressed with that. I'm impressed with that everything's
on the table now, and you know, maybe not everything's
the same level of accessibility, but there's so much exposed

(01:51:40):
in this stage and I love that. When it comes
to that other thing you were talking about though, about
the witchcraft and stuff like that, this is people who
literally just are a square one of their spiritual journeys,
square one, even if they think that they went around
the block ten times. Because remember how you said, what's

(01:52:01):
the difference between the person experiencing life or the persona?
You didn't say persona, but you said something like that.
You could be in the spiritual or the New Age, whatever,
you could be in that realm forever. And if you're
interacting with it still based off of you followed a trend.
You haven't touched it, you haven't connected with it, there's

(01:52:23):
no intimacy with it. So of course, when the tide turns,
because tides will always turn, and the tide now goes
down a different pipeline, the pipeline where oh the witchcraft
that was witchcraft? Depending on if you abused witchcraft while
you were in that realm or if you never connected

(01:52:45):
with whatever spiritual new age, whatever realm you were in,
you're just going to be going down these pipelines of
energy trends, who's that dominant hive mind, who has the
most energy, And you're going to be pulled down that
because it's safe. So it's safe to now say, oh,

(01:53:05):
that's witchcraft and stuff. And I'm not even saying that
it's not witchcraft. I don't even know. This is too
large of a question, too vague.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
But my point is the same thing for me. I mean,
it's just a broad term, and whoever wrote that article
probably doesn't really understand what that what it actually means.
It could mean so many different things.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
So yeah, so I was addressing it. Yeah, I was
addressing it more like without Yeah, I forgot it was
an article. I was thinking of it more from the
space of its popular to talk bad about certain movements
simply because a person has now switched pipelines and so

(01:53:53):
I'm a mystic, right, But I still don't bash the
New Age, even though I could easily. The reason why
is because of this, the New Age gets linked to witchcraft,
gets linked to all this stuff. Right, So what you
have is a lot of people who go whoa, whoa,
whoa when they were into channel material or when they
were into something that now could be implicated. And I

(01:54:15):
was just like, are we sovereign or are we scared
of witch hunts? When a person right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
When a person yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Like when a person is what am I trying to say?
People who turn that finger on something like, oh, I
was a part of that movement and that was bad
and said because it's the energy is now turning more
towards whatever it is. You know, why would I bend
to that? If I don't like the New Age, I'll

(01:54:47):
go not like the New Age, And in my private
life I'll tell someone, Hey, I'm met at the New
Age because of this. Yeah, it's so annoying. I won't
bend the knee in public because weak people were down
a pipeline and I don't want to be perceived that way.
Does that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
It makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. And I
also another way for me to look at this because
I deal with this every you know, this is what
I do, and I'm dealing with and hanging out with
all these groups of people who are lovely. Most of
them are just lovely and fun to be around. That

(01:55:24):
doesn't mean that I meditate. I don't. I don't meditate.
I've got yet. But yet I've got crystals right in
front of me here in the studio that I place
before each show, and I do a little ceremony with those.
But I still write a Harley Okay, So it's not
like you know what I mean. So I'm just do

(01:55:47):
what you do. That that's okay. But don't don't look
down on somebody because or a group because you don't understand.
You're only complaining or saying this because you don't you
don't really understand, right, right, you know it's really one.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
The person who gives into that didn't really understand either.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
No, No, it's just man. Just just accept. Yeah. Remember
earlier I asked you how how to communicate with these
different groups? How do you do that and effectively? Because
they need to have communication in a way that everybody

(01:56:41):
understands what they're trying to say and think and what
their what their goals are. But but people are different
types of personalities and they're on a different path, and
you have to be able to community. You have to
understand so you can communicate. Which is the problem that
we have in this world today. In a very very

(01:57:03):
broad sense. It used to be really cool to be different,
and now all of a sudden, being different you're wrong
if you're.

Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
Not like us.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
It's like, really, how do we get here? It's supposed
to be the opposite of that? Right? From many we
become one? That what happened to that? That thought process?

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Yeah, so those are the pendulum swings. But to be
even more precise, that's Saturn. Oh and Mercury, but I'll
stick to Staturn for now. Saturn has this really hipster
thing about it that's not well known.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Oh really, okay, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
So so Saturn's the demi urge, and so we blame Saturn.
And that's fine. I'm cool with that. I'm totally cool
with that, but then there's this other thing, more nuanced
form of Saturn. And what Saturn does is the best
way I could describe this, well, the funnest way. It's
not the best way. Have you ever seen the movie
The Whiz? Okay, I haven't seen it in its entirety,

(01:58:14):
but I saw this really cool scene like twenty years ago,
and that's what's coming to mind. They were on some
sort of like ballroom and there was all these different
colors and then somebody said through the microphone, maybe it
was the Wizard of Oz, I don't know. They said
the color is green or something like that, and then
everyone switches their tones. So if you guys who are

(01:58:36):
watching this, just look up that scene on YouTube. I'm
sure they'll have a clip so you could understand. Because
if you see that, it'll do better than me just
saying these words. So if you see what I'm saying,
this scene encompasses it perfectly. So each time Saturn gets
on the little high school microphone thing and you hear
it in the auditorium and they say the color is

(01:58:57):
green or whatever it is, you'll see everybody shift energy.
And that's this really nuanced thing about Saturn. What it does,
is it throttles the lines or the boundaries in between trends.
So on one hand, it'll make something that was out
of trend or rebellion cool. But then at a certain

(01:59:19):
point it will then get on the microphone and say
the color is whatever, And then all of a sudden,
you're experiencing the karmik, which is okay, that's why this
is Saturn. It's because Saturn's the planet of karma. So
then you'll feel the karma of that energy as well.
And that's what's happening right now. It's always happening. The uh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
I was watching a TV series. We're going to be
wrapping up here in about thirty second. Watching a TV
series last night. By the way, Es Bronza said, you
can pick your friends, and you can pick your demons,
but you can't pick your friend's demons. And I love that. Yeah,
I absolutely, I absolutely love that. Okay, so I'm watching
this TV series last night. It's really funny. Anyway, there

(02:00:02):
was this line only I would catch this or you.
It's a bar, a party, a company party at a bar.
Guys walking by this coworker. Coworker says something, and he
says to her this line. It was classic, I'm gonna
use it. He goes, it's your saturn, don't worry about it,
and he keeps walking, he walks right past her. But

(02:00:25):
it was how he it's your saturn, don't worry about it.
So I was like, dude, that was awesome. It was
so awesome, and you know, probably five million people watch that.
Nobody got it, but I got that line. It was powerful. Man,
it's your saturn, don't worry about it. Classic? All right,

(02:00:45):
where can everybody chase you down? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
So I'm really into making people aware of my mystery
teaching series on Gaya right now. That's where all of
my passion project is focused on. I've developed a second
season and filmed it from scratch. I'm super excited about it.
Other than that, you could just go to my official website,
the alchemist doc Community if you want to sign up

(02:01:10):
for my newsletter or just find my other social medias.
You could go on the alchemist Dock community and find
me there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
Yeah. Yeah, and we've got the links for that below.
It's a great page. By the way, Everything is there.
Everything is there. It's the alchemist doc Community. Link is below.
We also have it on our website and throughout social media.
I'll look forward to hanging out with you and getting
you back on the show. We're neighbors, you know, so yeah,

(02:01:39):
we don't really have an excuse.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
So yeah, it was an honor. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
You're the absolute, very best, Sarah. Enjoy the rest of
your evening, and thank you for being here to help
us celebrate our twelfth anniversary.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
And yeah, I congrats.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
I was very excited about tonight's show and it was
all of that and much more. You know, we should, though,
I'm going to go on the record right now. I'll
reach out to miss We absolutely one hundred percent should
do a Falconelly show from beginning to end right two
hours of Falconelly. The line would be so cool, the legend. Yeah, okay,

(02:02:15):
so I'm just putting it out there to the universe
right now. We'll get that set up. Thank you so much, Sarah.
Perfect night in the show. Thank you perfect, absolutely divine,
perfect show. And uh Sarah l Caldi Wow. Okay, So
her links are below. It is uh the the Alchemist

(02:02:38):
dot community. The links are below take you right there,
take you to the TV series, also her live events
and her social media. It's all right, there go and
check it out. So with that that will wrap the
live guest portion of this week here on Fate to
Black as we celebrate our twelfth anniversary. Tomorrow night is
our twelfth anniversary special. Our our guest is.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Me and you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
It is going to be a fade or Night hang
out Tomorrow night, and we're just going to kick back
and celebrate twelve years in the can On Friday we
head into year thirteen. So everybody, enjoy your evening. I'll
see you right back here tomorrow. But for now, all
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