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November 4, 2025 39 mins

Join host Justin Forman in Boulder, Colorado, for a powerful conversation with Tim Tebow and Wes Lyons at the Clapham gathering—where 150 entrepreneurs are uniting to disrupt one of the world's darkest evils: human trafficking. This episode explores how for-profit ventures, nonprofit organizations, and churches can collaborate to create an unprecedented counter-trafficking industry worth billions.

Tim shares the heartbreaking story that launched his anti-trafficking work: his father's decision to purchase the freedom of four girls at an underground pastor's conference. Wes reveals how entrepreneurs are building sustainable businesses that fight trafficking—from training frontline healthcare workers to creating digital safety for children—proving that mission and profit can powerfully align.

Discover why "looking again" at those society overlooks is essential to stopping traffickers, how apathy is the real enemy, and why living an extreme life for Christ matters more than living a balanced one.

Key Topics:

  • The origin story: How Tim Tebow's father rescued four girls and launched a movement
  • Understanding trafficking vs. sexual exploitation: Different motives, different solutions
  • Building the counter-trafficking industry: How for-profit businesses are seeding a $5B market by 2030
  • The Clapham model: Learning from William Wilberforce's dense network approach
  • Healthcare's hidden opportunity: 90% of trafficking victims interact with medical professionals 15-18 times before identification
  • Why being made in God's image means "image being," not "image bearer"
  • The case against living a balanced life—and for living an extreme one
  • Eagle Venture Fund's strategy: Treating counter-trafficking like counter-cybersecurity

Notable Quotes:

"My dad is one of my biggest heroes and role models because he's not someone that can look the other way and do nothing." - Tim Tebow

"You can be for profit and for purpose and for people. Like that can happen." - Tim Tebow

"People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy. We have to be passionate believers, passionate about the cause of Christ, passionate about hurting people, not apathetic people that someone else is going to do it." - Tim Tebow

"Traffickers target the people that the church gave up seeing." - Justin Forman

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