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November 11, 2025 38 mins

Beyond the Bumper Sticker: What It Really Means When God Owns Your Business

Join host Justin Forman as he sits down with Bertie Lourens, founder of a waste management company that has transformed the lives of 2,300 people across South Africa. Bertie shares his extraordinary journey from near bankruptcy to transferring majority ownership of his company to God—not as a symbolic gesture, but as a legally binding decision that fundamentally changed how he runs his business.

This episode moves beyond the bumper sticker phrase "God owns my business" to explore what actually happens when you transfer 51% of shares to a non-profit entity representing God as your majority shareholder. Bertie vulnerably shares how pride nearly destroyed everything, how two miracles gave his business a second chance, and why the most freeing decision he ever made was giving up control.

Key Topics:

  • From pride to bankruptcy: How success became Bertie's greatest spiritual danger
  • The radical obedience of legally transferring majority ownership to God
  • Setting up Neko Capital: Making God a legal shareholder through proper structure
  • How boardroom questions change when asking "What does our Shareholder want?"
  • The Elon Musk thought experiment: Understanding the value proposition of divine partnership
  • Why stewardship "with Him" is fundamentally different than "for Him"
  • Raising children without entitlement when God owns the family business
  • Breaking free from the founder's burden: The unexpected freedom of surrender

Notable Quotes:

"Whatever I do for Jesus is wrong. Whatever I do with him is right. That just changed my world." - Bertie Lourens

"I have never in my life been more free than after the moment when I transferred those shares." - Bertie Lourens

"The comfort of the security—the financial security that I have, that I can see in my future because of this—is what entraps us." - Bertie Lourens

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