August 7, 2025 • 68 mins
Well this was as fun an episode to do as (we hope) it is for you to listen to. In Arthur's Corner he talks Dandy's World, getting over illness and his return to school as well as his recent popularity as a young transman on Threads. The rest of the Laura suggested show we discuss Clara Barton, her life as a young, possibly neurodivergent woman, how she grew up with only one close friend and the love of her family leading to her first career as a school teacher and someone who created the public school system in Bordentown New Jersey. The people of Bordentown were so impressed, they made a brand new school building and gave the job of principal to a man from out of state whom they paid double her salary. She left and joined the US Patent Office in Washington DC which led to her becoming a battlefield nurse during the Civil War and founding the American Red Cross. After leaving the Red Cross, the founded the National First Aid Association of America and continued public speaking almost right up to her death at 90 years old. She was a woman with no give, no quit who always pivoted towards purpose, so check out this amazing woman in this, the latest episode of the Family Plot Podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm Dean, I'm the dad.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm Laura, I'm the mom, and I'm Arthur, I'm the.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Son, and together we are.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Mali Plott.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
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You've just got to be nice. You know, he likes nice, and.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Everybody's part of the fan who listens to the show. Yeah,
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Speaker 4 (02:10):
Thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Unhinged was the word I was looking for, but not Pg.
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Speaker 2 (02:47):
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So what are we talking about today, team.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, today we're talking about a woman who was born
on Christmas Day in a snowy Massachusetts, Massachusetts village and
grew up shy, sensitive, and fiercely curious, the kind of
kid who'd rather nurse a wounded animal than play with friends.
Clara Barton had no intention of living a quiet life.
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By seventeen, she was teaching school. By middle age, she
was dodging bullets to deliver supplies to Civil War battlefields,
and by her sixties she was founding one of the
most enduring humanitarian institutions in the world. Her life was
a masterclass in defiance, defying gender expectations, defying bureaucracy, defying
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battlefield logistics. She took on Congress, marched through war zones,
and argued with generals, all while being dismissed as just
a woman with a wagonful of bandages. All that and
more in this So that's how the Red Cross became
a thing episode of the Family Plot podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
She also happened to be my own mother's hero and
the reason that my own mother became a nurse. And
that's how I knew about Clara Barton before we ever
did this episode.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, So let's get into her early life. She was
born on December twenty fifth, for those bad with calendars,
that's Christmas Day, eighteen twenty one, in North Oxford, Massachusetts.
She was named Clarissa Harlowe Barton, named after the main
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character of Samuel Richardson's novel Clarissa. If you're not familiar
with that book, it's a pretty horrible book about a
young woman named Clarissa Harlowe who was promised to an
older businessman in marriage. She flees to the protection of
a man in her age who takes advantage of her,
finding comfort in her faith and values before her death,
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which makes her family show remorse for the way they
treated her dumb book I See Wow. She was born
to her father, Stephen Barton, a wealthy farmer, horse breeder
and captain of the local militia, and Sarah Stone Barton,
a disciplinarian with a fiery temper who ran the household
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like a military academy. In later life, Clarissa would indicate
that she had a more strained relationship with her mother
than her father, who would regale her with tales of
military campaigns. She had four older siblings, including Dorothea Dolly Barton,
who was seventeen at the time of her birth, Stephen
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Barton Junior, who was fifteen when Clarissa was born, David Barton,
who was thirteen, and Sarah Sally Barton, who was Her
siblings would have as much sway in her life as
her parents did. It would be Dolly, who spent most
of her life longing for a good education, who taught
her to read, and when her brother David became severely injured,
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she would spend much time looking after it, learning many
rudimentary first aid techniques, including blood letting with leeches. It
would be here where she developed her lifelong interest in
caring for the sick and injured. As a child, she
was shy and sensitive and deeply empathetic. This is something
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that her parents worried about, and in later in life
they would attempt to toughen her up. Her only known
childhood friend was a girl named Nancy Fitz. That name
is so so worthy of punning.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh my god, Nancy fits.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Little is known about Nancy, but we do know that
Clara was so distressed by social situations she often avoided
them altogether. So for Nancy to become such a quiet,
strong presence in the young girl's life says something about
Nancy's own empathy and stubbornness. In school over a one
room affair. At that time, she excelled in reading and
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spelling nuts. So let's take a moment for Arthur's Corner
and catching up with Arthur in today's episode of Arthur's Cornery.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Ready, go to your corner, Arthur.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Here, ye, here, ye, Allow me to present Arthur's Corner.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Hello, everyone, welcome back to my corner.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Hello, how are we doing today?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, you seem to be doing much better than you
were last week, so I'm happy about that. As for me,
I got a rejection letter about a story I submitted
for publication to it to an EVE magazine and they
were just rude, rude, and it almost hurt my feelings.
And then I don't know, somewhere I got a moment
(08:19):
of pride and was like, Nope, that story is a
good story. There, your stories are good stories.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Are a good writer. We we enjoy your writing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So who on that who on that E magazine?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They stay crew something. I'm okay, you're okay, just okay,
it's just okay. It's Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm okay, come on, I'm I'm here with two of
my favorite people's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, there we go. She's here with two of her
favorite peoples.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And the cat and the sleepy cat that hates me.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, he's the cat sleeping in daddy's arms because he's
so happy to have his daddy.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
He is so spoilt. He is such a spoiled kitty.
He's so spoiled. He doesn't heed you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You don't see this hatred.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He's curled up in Dean's arms, happily sleeping the sleepiness
of a happy cat.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, guys, I can't explain to you how much this
isn't hate.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How about you Arthur.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You see you're doing some artwork over there as we
as we talk and record the show. I am along
along with manning the mouse this week.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I am.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I am actually doing doing pretty well this week for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's that's excellent. Yeah, I like I'm gonna complain. Here
are good things from our Arthur. The always makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I made my bed and stuff yesterday, did me and
Lexi's bedding. That was awesome. Yes, always good. I found
I found my drawing tablet pin after cleaning my side
of the of the beds. So I found my drawing
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tablet pin and I was able to draw last night.
So it always makes you happy. Yes, I'm drawing right now. Yes,
so that's fun. I'm working on my art stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because it makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It makes me happy, and I'm trying to get better
at art so it can become a.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Career for me. Good because modern day careers are not
fitting to me. You're still young, got time, yeah, but
still I don't know your options open. I always keep
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my options open. I just there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm just what I do, and what I do is
art and creativity. That's that's how I am as a person.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well like I told you yesterday. Hallmark is always looking
for artists.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They're not gonna want a furry as an artist.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You don't wish they do what.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Most places don't want furries to work at him. Oh okay,
that you're right, that isn't true. There's actually a oh yes,
fun fact, there's actually a furry.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Made the moderna vaccine. Her name is Chibe or she
Chibes something like that. Not like the food, I don't think.
But she's a fur and she made them on their
modern vaccine and she's very smart.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's actually a lot more furs that actually are very
big in today's world. So I strive to be one
of those. But yeah, I'm drawing. I'm drawing, and it
looks okay, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Looks great so far. I know exactly what you're drawing.
I don't even know what I'm drawing. If I tried
to draw something. I'm horrible at art.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I doubt that. You guys say you're horrible at art,
but I had to get it from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So yeah, probably your mother. I can't draw a stick
and make it look great.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, she draw She drew a pretty good swan.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I like her spond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Anyway. She doesn't want to talk about her mice. I
like her mice. Mice, your little mice. Okay, that's whatever
that is. Yeah, it was just doodling.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
The closest I ever came to drawing was I used
to draw a figure of a dog that I named
schlop Scott. Why I have no one slop Scott.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's a great name for a dog. No, it sounds
like a great named, great name idea for a dog. Yeah,
Slapscott is a great name. Do I see you got
new flip flops? Carly got me those? Are they nice?
Is their sketchs flip flops? Ye're awesome?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Awesome?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, Let's see what else have I been doing recently? Oh,
there's a new Dandies World update coming out on the
on Friday.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Speaking of Friday, that that's where my voice lines are due.
So I'm gonna make sure to get those done soon.
And that's exciting. Sent to you, mister mister October, Thank
you for those. I read through those. I will make
sure to do the best eleven year old boy voice
I can do. Let's see anything else we got? Juice
(14:08):
and I've been obsessed with drinking it. So now the
juice is almost gone, not fully from me, though I
only had three glasses so far. It's fine juice.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's meant to be drink.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Everybody else we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, I had a glass last night trying to get
my blood sugar up, So forgive me.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm not I'm not mad at anyone's juice. It's made
to be drunk. It's yeah, it's it's it's juice. Juice
is actually my favorite beverage.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's not even expensive juice. It's tampico, you guys. It's fine.
It's not even real juice.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, but it tastes that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It gets more happy to get chue some more.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, let's see anything else, anything else, any else? Yeah,
I was talking about the Dandy's World update. That's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, you got sidetracked with Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Friday. There's gonna be a new Dandy's World update, and
it's one of the biggest ones yet since I've started
in the fandom.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There's gonna be new machines, and there's gonna be there's
gonna be another thing. It's kind of it's like a
floor event.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
They call it a floor event because in the game
while you're playing it, there's like a likeliness for like
a blackouting called a blackout, and there's gonna be another one,
like another type.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Of floor event besides blackouts. So that's gonna be terrifying
and fun. I think there's also gonna be another tune
that terrifying and fun. I think terrifying and fun. I think, hey,
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that that could be somebody's podcasting that, you know, terrifying
and fun.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, you know, that's that's kind of the whole thought
process behind on it houses.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, if the haunted house is
really a haunted house, Yeah, sure, I'm trying to think
of anything else.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, let me throw something into the mix, and uh,
just to see if I'm the only one who's noticed this.
I don't think Thunder is completely gone. What do I
mean by that? Well, I keep seeing him around now,
So you think there's.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
A spectral fun Thunder puttering around someplace?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, Lexi has Lexi has thrown that idea out as well.
She said she felt him lay on her feet the
other day.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Since since he has.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Past, yeah, that guy can never wants to leave anyone alone,
so it would make sense he if he is still
here in spirit. I fonder my babies. I miss you.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'll keep coming out and like I'll see him, and
then I'll look again and he's gone. It's like I
know you're here. I know you're here.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'll follow you.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That would explain why I thought I saw him on
the cat tree over there, on top of that, on
top of the miles page, getting close to time to
go back to school, getting too close to time to go.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Back to school, which I just finished enrolling you in
Connections Academy today. They finally gotten your They they finally
got me your your report card from last year.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Lovely kay, and hopefully that will help me stay on track? Yes, hopefully.
Ummm let's say anything else?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes, are you okay? I'll be fine. He loves you.
I don't know, but I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know about that. He's drooling on me.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He's drooling on you because he's asleep on you. Dwel,
it's love, Jewel. What you think I'm think of messing
with you?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I'm not sure that love drools a thing? Something for
our listeners. If you think love drools a thing. Please
send me a message.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
On X definitely a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Most message blue Sky or threads, threads where Arthur is
so popular.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Why am I so popular over there?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Guys, you're popular everywhere like your little jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's fun.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Well, the key part of why you're popular on threads
is you're a trans kid being supported by your parents,
and there are a lot of trans people who didn't
get that support, so.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They're living vicariously through you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh that's fun. Yeah, sure, I'll share my parents.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Of course you have been for years, the whole time
we've been doing this podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
M yeah, true, fair enough, Okay, I was planning on
cleaning this weekendice thinking is good.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
House messy, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't feel sick anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yay, we're happy.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're feeling better, much happier. You're feeling better.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You're really sick, I have. I haven't seen you that
sick like ever. I don't think i'll when you were
like a baby, she's.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Gonna say when he was a baby maybe and he
had that interception balance or yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It was like I'm not going to go into details, guys,
but he was sick, very sick.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Have you seen the movie The Extracis.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Look, there was some there's no pea soup in Bulked,
but no peace soup. Did you have anything else you
want to talk about in your corner?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Or catching up with Arthur? Are we all caught up
with Arthur?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Looking forward to moving forward in my life? Man?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Big deal?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
All right, Well that's that's it for today. Throwing claps
for Arthur again?
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Okay, Yeah, it was time to get back to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Growing Up Clara, you could have saidden, Clarissa explains it all.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If only anybody ever helped me do these things, they could,
they could throw in these helps.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, I like it, it's good.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I just thought that was cute because that was a
Nickelodeon show back in the day with Melissa Joe mart
who I liked, liked.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Didn't she play Sabrina?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
She will also Sabrina, Yes, Clarissa explains it all.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Was her first series, I see, and.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Then she did Sabrina the Teenage Witch for years.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, way, growing Up with Clara. The word neurodivergence didn't
exist in Clara Barton's time, and she was never formally
diagnosed with any condition, but looking at how she behaved
and how people described her, there's a strong case to
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be made for the possibility. As a child, Clara was
extremely shy, so much that she barely spoke in group settings.
Her family often called her tiring and overly sensitive, which
today might be signs of sensory sensitivity and deep emotional intensity.
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She also showed signs of hyper focus, the ability to
concentrate on something, concentrate completely on something for long periods.
When her brother David was injured, he fell out of
a barn, sustaining a severe a severe headway sorry. She
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cared for him NonStop for two years. Eventually, David would
make a full recovery. Later in life, she personally responded
to over sixty three thousand letters while running the Missing
Soldiers Soldier's Soldier's Office. Clara had a tough time with teamwork.
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She often classed, clashed with colleagues, and didn't like to
share control, even at America, even at the American Red Cross,
where she was a founder and leader. But she also
had incredible resilience and a sharp mind for spotting patterns,
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especially when it came to organizing battlefield supplies and navigating
government bureaucracy. These traits extreme focus, emotional depth, social challenges,
and logistical brilliance line up with what we know about
social or what we know about autism, ADHD or other
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kinds of neurodivergence. Back then, people didn't understand these behaviors
the way we do now. In women, especially, they were
often seen as stubbornness. Oh wait, they were often seen
as eccentric, eccentric, hysterical, or morally flawed. Clara's iron will
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and unladylike stubbornness made her both a target of criticism
and a symbol of strength, depending on who you're at
wh you asked. Her father believed she needed toughening up,
so her family sent her to Colonel Stone's High High School.
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It didn't help. She came home even more anxious and depressed.
But after that she started working on the farm with
her male cousins, writing voices and doing chores that helped
her build confidence. Oh go down, That helped her build
confidence and physical resilience. Her older siblings were key supporters.
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Her sister Sally became her lifelong confident, confidant confident, and
her older brother Stephan encouraged her to live independently at
age seventeen, Clara started her career as a school teacher,
a choice made at her parents' insistence, but once one
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that gave her skills she'd used for the rest of
her life.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Now, let's take a minute for to hear from some
of our fellow content creators.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Do you ever want to be a guest and a
super cool podcast hosted by a glamorous power couple from
their cutting edge home studio on the outskirts of a
major metropolitan world hub Hollywood? Anyone us too? Until then,
let's pretend one.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Of these days you might get a DM, a PM,
an EM, or even a message in a bottle inviting
you to join my husband and I for an hour
or two in our chat lab working on solutions for
all the world's problems.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
And when you are invited, there's only one response.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, uh huh. You know what that sound means. It's
another episode of Game for a Movie where we ask
are you game for a movie? Tell me of it?
There's no special features on that god damn DVD. All right, Wow,
first hands ge.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
She basically has sex with it somehow. She's chair four play.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean they knocked out of the Park, which is
live final.
Speaker 11 (27:13):
The three oh.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, I wouldn't be in it because this movie
doesn't have women, but you.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Know you have one. You would have three lines of dialogue. Okay,
so I'm actually hitting it like I actually get like
I earned my four sentences of dialogue rather than here
on a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
You just stood there on the screen. You're a sexy lamp.
Because they really hate each other, so we get to
enjoy some wonderful comedic scenes of them hate each other
so much that they get into physical altercations.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Does that include her fighting.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Detective ex Detective Phillips' dick?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, but we don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I know all of those words are English, but the
way you constructed them online, I'm not very well. For
those who haven't rated us or liked or given us
a review, don't say that we haven't given you anything
of value. After listening to this podcast, you now do
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seventeen X rated dick. You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Thank you guys for listening to the Game for a
movie where we ask are you game for a movie?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Bye bye.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
First impressions can take only six seconds to make, but
if you're neurodivergent. Those quick judgments about you can be misleading.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Because of most people's ignorance around learning disabilities.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
People think it means you're intellectually incapable.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm not rain Man.
Speaker 13 (28:47):
Every latiency person is in rain Man.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
I thought I was talking to people who understood dislike
saying ADHD, but they did not.
Speaker 14 (28:55):
They freaked out, and we're like, well, if you've got tourette,
if it's going to be a problem, then we can
just follow you and get someone else.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
I'm Carolyn Keel and I host Beyond six Seconds, a
podcast where neurodivergent people share their lives and advocacy.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
One of my goals is making autism not something that's scary.
I really want to help people understand this proxy a
little bit better.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Get the real life of threats ndroom out there.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Stop thinking we are nothing but a joke.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
Let's shatter misconceptions and celebrate neurodiversity together. Listen at Beyond
six seconds dot net or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 13 (29:45):
It was time to get back to the show.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Her mom, Yeah, I feel sponsored, Not you feel sponsored,
but like I feel you.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Feel enlightened by our fellow contact leaders.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I really like that. Yeah, up, not just because I've
been on their show.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I was going to say that, couldn't have anything to
do with the fact that you've been on their show.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, Phil and Lisa are very cool people.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You said that, you said you felt like we would
make well.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I feel like you and Lisa would be best teams.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We'll have to look into that. So let's talk a
little bit more about Clara's life and talk about.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Bordentown, New Jersey. After teaching for several years, Clara Barton
moved to Bordentown, New Jersey, where she pitched a bold
idea to the local school committee build a free public
school open to all children, regardless of wealth. In a
state where education usually usually came with a price tag
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and catered to the wealthy, the proposal.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Was nearly unheard up.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
In a state where education usually came with a price
tag and catered to the wealthy, the proposal was nearly
unheard of, but somehow she got the green light.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
She launched her.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
School in a one room schoolhouse built in eighteen thirty nine,
starting with just six students. By the end of that
first year, more than six hundred children were enrolled. That's
that's quite a gross burt there. The town, impressed and grateful,
constructed a new brick school house to accommodate the growing
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student body. Then came the gut punch. Clara was passed
over for the principal's position. Instead, the job went to
a man from out of town who was paid twice
her salary. Clara, feeling deeply betrayed and clearly seeing the
gender discrimination at play, resigned and headed to Washington, d C.
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Ready to start over. In DC, she secured a job
at the usbut in office, becoming one of the first
women there to earn equal pay with her male colleagues.
Clara's strong abolitionist views and outspoken nature made her a
target under President Buchanan.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And she was eventually demoted and dismissed, but when Lincoln
took office in eighteen sixty one, she returned to her
post just in time.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
For the war to erupt.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
On April nineteenth, eighteen sixty one, the sixth Massachusetts Infantry
was attacked by a pro Confederate mob while passing through Baltimore,
an event later known as the Baltimore Riot. When the
injured troops arrived in DC, Clara recognized many of them
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as former students. Their condition shocked her. She immediately began
gathering food, clothing, bandages, and medical supplies from friends and neighbors,
staring everything in her boarding house on Seventh Street. It
is important to note that she wasn't part of ify organization.
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She was just a woman with a mission, driven by
compassion and grit. As wounded soldiers flooded into Washington hospitals
following battles like bull Run, Clara became a familiar sight,
comforting the injured, delivering supplies, and helping wherever she was needed.
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But she soon realized that the greatest need was on
the battlefield. Not afterwards, she petitioned military officials for permission
to bring supplies directly to the front lines, a radical
move at the time. In August eighteen sixty two, she
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finally got her chance. At Cedar Mountain, Virginia. Clara arrived
with wagons of supplies and immediately began helping surgeons, cooking
meals and tending to the wounded.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Her impact was so.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Profound that one doctor reportedly said General mckellum, with all
his laurels, sinks into insignificance beside the true heroine of
the age. From that day forward, Clara Barton became a
fixture on the battlefields of the Civil War, serving at Antidum, Anti,
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at Antietam, Fredericksburg, Charleston, and beyond. She often arrived before
official medical teams, delivering care and comfort to those who
needed it most. Stinking impressive huh.
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She served at Antietam, where surgeons were so desperate they
were using corn husks as bandages until Clara arrived. She
organized volunteers, distributed supplies, and even performed triage under fire.
One soldier was shot and killed while she was tending him.
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The bullet passed between her arm and his body. She
never mended the hole in her sleeve. I may be
compelled to face danger, but never fear it, she said,
and While our soldiers can stand and fight, I can
stand and feed and nurse them. She continued her work
at Fredericksburg, Charleston, Petersburg, and Fort Wagner, often arriving before
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official medical teams. Like Lauras said before, she treated Union
and Confederate soldiers alike, believing that suffering had no allegiance.
In South Carolina, she worked out of a tent on
Morris Island, distributing fresh food and mail to troops in
the trenches. Disease was rampant, and Claire herself became gravely
ill and had to be evacuated to Hiltonhead Island. Around
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this time, her older brother, Stephen, passed away just months
before the war came to a close, as did one
of her nephews in January of eighteen sixty five. Clara
returned North after the death of her brother and nephew,
but she wasn't done. President Abraham Lincoln appointed her General
Correspondent for the Friends of pear Old Prisoners, tasking her
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with located missing soldiers and informing their families. She established
the Bureau of Records of Missing Men, operating out of
her boarding house on Seventh Street, with a team of clerk.
She answered over sixty three thousand letters and identified twenty
two thousand missing soldiers. She even helped mark anonymous graves
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at the Andersonville Prison, raising the first American flag over
the newly established cemetery. This wasn't just paperwork. It was
grief work, closure, and a final act of service to
the families left behind.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Pretty stinking awesome woman, absolutely super impressive.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
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Speaker 3 (39:00):
It all right, So let's talk about founding the American
Red Cross. After the Civil War, Clara Barton was physically
and emotionally drained, as you would be. She took a
much needed trip to Europe in eighteen sixty nine, hoping
for rest, but rest wasn't really in her nature. While
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in Geneva, Switzerland. She learned about the International Red Cross,
a movement born from heroes of the Battle Oh Sorry,
A movement born from the horror's big difference of the
Battle of Solfrino.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Did I say that right?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I believe so. I didn't look it up.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Sulfurino Its mission provide neutral aid to wounded soldiers, regardless
of nationality. Clara was captivated. She volunte tiered with the
Red Cross during the Francopprussian War from eighteen seventy to
seventy one, delivering supplies and relief to civilians that experience
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lit a fire. She returned to the US determined to
bring the Red Cross model home, but it wasn't easy.
Many Americans believed the Red Cross was only relevant in
wartime and the Civil War was over. Clara argued for
a broader mission disaster relief in peacetime, including floods, fires,
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and epidemics. She lobbied Congress and multiple presidents, facing pushback
rooted in gender bias, political isolationalism, and skepticism about centralized charity. Finally,
on May first, eighteen eighty one, at age fifty nine,
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Clara Barden founded the American Red Cross A year later,
the US ratified the Geneva Convention, formally joining the International
Humanitarian Network. Clara served as president for twenty three years,
overseeing relief efforts for the Johnstown Flood in eighteen eighty nine,
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the Galveston Hurricane in nineteen hundred, the Spanish American War
in eighteen ninety eight, where she delivered a two soldiers
and civilians in Cuba. She also wrote the American Amendment
to the Geneva Convention in eighteen eighty four, expanding Red
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Cross duties to include peacetime disaster relief, a move that
changed changed global humanitarian policy. But her leadership style was intense.
Clara was fiercely protective of her vision, often clashing with
board members. In nineteen oh four, amid internal pressure and
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accusations of authtinarianism, authoritarianism.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah that she officially resigned.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I could have written anti disestablishmentarianism. Would have been able.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
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Speaker 2 (43:06):
Clara Barton's final chapter, still leading, still teaching. After Clara
Barton stepped down from the American Red Cross in nineteen
oh four, she didn't settle into retirement quietly. She pivoted
as always word purpose. In nineteen oh five, at age
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eighty three, Clara founded the for the National First Aid
Association of America. The group focused on teaching basic first
aid to everyday people, sharing first aid kids with homes, schools,
and workplaces, promoting everyday prepared nope, promoting emergency preparedness across communities.
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This idea had been shut down when she was with
the Red Cross, but now outside of it, her vision
found traction. The association helped create first aid standards that
are still part of modern life today. Even in her
late eighties, Clara stayed busy with writing and public speaking.
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In nineteen oh five, she published a Story of the
Red Cross, sharing her experiences and challenges as its founder.
In nineteen oh seven, she released the Story of My Childhood,
giving readers a rare look into the life that shaped
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her mission. And in nineteen ten, at age eighty eight,
she traveled solo to Chicago to speak at a social
science convention, proving she still had stamina and conviction to spare.
Clara spent her years at home in Glen Echo, Maryland,
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a place that had once served as Red Cross headquarters.
Her health declined, but her mind stage sharp. She kept
her focus on human humanitarian work and causes she believed in.
She never married or had children.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Her family was the thousands of people she.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Helped heal, feed and inspire. On April twelfth, nineteen twelve,
at age ninety, Clara Barton passed away, leaving behind a
legacy not just built on bravery, but on bulld eyed
ideas and unstoppable on stable compassion.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So she died right around the same time that the
Titanic sink.
Speaker 13 (46:08):
YEP, it was time to get back to the show.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Let's talk about her legacy pop culture, and there's even
some hauntings. She appears in The Gilded Age on HBO,
where she's portrayed raising funds for the fledgling American Red Cross,
dramatized but historically grounded cameo. Barton is featured in numerous
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biographies and children's books, including Clara Barton, Angel of the Battlefield,
and a Woman of Valor. She's also a recurring figure
in educational magazines like Cobbles, While not superhero in the
traditional sense, She's been included in historical comic series aimed
at young readers, often emphasot emphasizing her battlefield bravery and
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Red crosswork. Her dress, letters and artifacts are on display
at Red Cross Headquarters and then Clara Barton National Historic
Site in Glen Echo, Maryland. Clara Barton's impact is vast
and still felt today. Founder of the American Red Cross,
which now serves millions through disaster relief, blood donation, and
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emergency response. Pioneer battlefield medicine, chaining perceptions of women's roles
in war. Advocate for equal pay, civil rights and women's suffrage.
Creator of the Missing Soldier's Office, which reunited thousands of
families after the Civil War. Influencer of modern first st
aid through her later work with the National First Aid
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Association of America. Her legacy lives on in every emergence
she shelter, every blood drive, and every first aid kid.
There are few places where Clara's spirit is said to linger,
or at least where the atmosphere fear feels charged with
her presence. In Glen Echo, Maryland, the Clara Barton National
Historic Site, visitors reported whispers shadows in a sense of
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being watched. Some believe Clara's spirit still resides in the
halls where she once lived in work Clara Barton Tunnel, Washington,
d C. A horror documentary claims eerie sightings and disappearances
in this tunnel named after her, though it's more urban
legend than verified haunting. The Missing Soldier's Office in Washington,
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d C. Which was rediscovered in the nineteen and nineties.
This office was untouched for decades. Some say the energy
there is intense, a place where grief and a pope
once collided. Whether she's truly haunting these places or simply
haunting history, Clara Barton remains a presence that refuses to
be forgotten. You're welcome, And with all of that, a
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Speaker 4 (49:37):
Is your cat still dwelling on you?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
No? I keep moving because he's a lump and he's heavy.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
He's a heavy lump.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
You're right, Uh, so I've got to move every so often,
so I don't stiffen up something somewhere.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
All right, So we've come to that time.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
YEP, summary, final thoughts, and I think it's fitting that
you lead us off this week, was it?
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Stud Have we talked about Clara Barton here?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Like who I would? If I'd remembered that, I would
have mentioned at the beginning I do. I do like
giving you guys credits where credit, credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Like I said, I grew up that the book the
Clara Barton, the one that you specifically mentioned. The book
it's up on the next one. But Angel at the
Battlefield I think was the name of it. My sister
wrote a book report on that when she was in
elementary school. No, no, down here.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
It was in this top here.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Angel Clara Barton, Angel of the Battlefield, my sister wrote
a back in the nineties. My sister wrote a book
report on that when she was in elementary school. So
I guess it actually would have been the late eighties,
maybe the eighties, early nineties. Yeah, wait, probably late eighties.
But anyway, so I I still remember my mother helping
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her with that book report and talking about how Clara
Barton had been the one to inspire her to go
to nurses school and become become a nurse, and my
mother spent my mother spent a.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Better part of.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
The better part of her career and her adult life
as a nurse and took care of everybody else's family
and saved lives. So she's always kind of been an
overarching spirit in my personal family's life too.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
So.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
But I mean, this was a lot, a lot of information.
I obviously didn't know all of it, but just in
general as a mother who has birth female daughters and
understand some of the frustrations that women have gone through
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and see travesty and have turned to the Red Cross
for different things throughout my life. She was definitely an
inspirational human and inspirational woman and just really marched all
over history.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
And showed her stuff so much that she turned up
in an HBO show and then some and a few
other places.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Absolutely, how about you, Arthur, You want to do final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So big question? Do you dislike her as much as
you do? Sharon Kenney?
Speaker 13 (52:42):
Not a question.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Barton's a hero. Sharon Kinney was a murderer.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Just to see the look on murder, Just to see
the look on Arthur's face, just at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
that that are you saying, Dad?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Have you been eating the stinky as Blue would say
if you drinking the tea trioil.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
But Blue was the one who drank the tea tree oil.
I know. Anyways, Anyways, she seems like a very lovely woman,
or seemed like a very lovely woman, and she saved
a lot of people's lives. And you know what, I
can relate with her on that, and I appreciate her
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as a woman, and.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
She a creator.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Into her eighties, she was still lightly She didn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Man, People retired, people retired, but she didn't.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
She didn't. She just kept going like, oh, I'm not
gonna do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
Okay, I'll do something else.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh I'm done with that.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Okay, I'll do something else.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Here to stop.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
She was almost ninety years old and traveling by herself.
She's just like, yeah, I got this.
Speaker 10 (54:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
They had trains then, which which is a weird thing
to me.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Okay, but stay with me here. Jim was ninety one
when he passed, and that man had all of the
conveniences of living in this day and age, and still
like there were times where.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
We, you know, we didn't want him to go too
terribly far.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
And this woman traveled like probably days to go from
one state to another state on train and she was
eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Well, you know, I mean, was she going to wait
for a husband? Is she didn't have? Did you not?
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I'm just saying just you and birth?
Speaker 1 (54:50):
And I'm not sure she could have been in a
relationship anyway, just because of how much control she felt
like she had to have. That is that is certainly
a thing of of neurodivergence. We either want to be
in control or nowhere not even touching it. It's not
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even mine. I don't want it. Like there's no middle
ground for us. There's no cooperating my way or the
God highway. Pardon I gotta bleep myself.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Now, you got to bleep yourself. Wow, that's gotta believe
himself this week, Arthur.
Speaker 14 (55:29):
That's insane. Usually it's me. You have to believe I know. So,
I get that, I get that. Well, you're an authoritarian. No,
I just know what I'm doing. I have a goal here. No,
what's going to get us closer to that?
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, she's a very strong and stuff and stuff and things.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Very strong independent woman.
Speaker 5 (55:56):
Why would she need a man after doing everything she did.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
But I'm not saying she did.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I'm saying like I mean, I mean, I know what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
I'm just saying I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
To speak through her in a way.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Although it sounds like some of her family like we
owe them a tip of the hat. Steven in particular,
who was the one who told his parents, look, he
let her go be person, live independently because they weren't
going to.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Then off, she went to teach schools and then and
that's another thing that she encouraged, public free, public schooling. Yeah,
something that you know children benefit from all over the
country today.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Well, did you also catch why she left Why she
went to.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
DH because they gave her job.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
She founded the schools, the public scho got everything going
through them six and then when they opened a new school,
they gave the head job to a man and paid.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Them double what they've been You're done a great job,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
You're you were born with the wrong ding, so we can't,
you know, give you that job. Nobody would believe a
woman in that position.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
Take it away from you and give it to somebody
who hasn't even been involved.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
You're just you're just gonna be in control.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
She said, Okay, the f you, I'll go to Washington
and go hang out at the Capitol.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Do something else with my life. And so she did.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
She didn't have any quit in her Nope. I like
that immensely. I enjoyed. Like I don't always enjoy doing
the research. Sometimes I really have to struggle through it,
especially if it's like some murderer or something like that.
But this was easy because, like everything you turn up
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like yeah, yeah, yeah. And the one thing I've done
that reminds me a little of it is the episode
we're doing in two weeks on the US Ghost Arm.
That was a lot of fun too.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
You were excited about doing the research on that one too.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Like I said, the research doesn't always thrill me it's
but this did because she was just so like, every
time you thought, wow, that's pretty amazing, she would do
something even more amazing than topic and top it and
then beat myself. Some of the things she's doing.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Are filmmaking a difference today what.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
She's doing them at sixty seventy eightys, you know, starting
a whole new organization because you quit the last and
because people were like you're too strict in your rules. Okay, fine,
you run it.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
I'll go do something else.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
See if you go, you can have it.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
I'll do something you think you can do it better year.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'll leave you to it.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
And what did she pick something that she'd been voted
down on in the Red Cross? Yeah, I'm sure she's.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
Okay, I'll start it on my own.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Then. I'm sure she was not thrilled to have a
board of directors.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
I would imagine not.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, like, then.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Youre are it.
Speaker 3 (59:36):
You have to bring other people on. The only unfortunate
thing is at some point you become the minority and then.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
You lose your vote.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Like I can, it's better than all of you. But
unfortunately you don't know that. And there's more of you
than there is of me. So I'll just go do
my thing over here and let you let you have
my leftovers.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
You pretend that know what you're doing in this spot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
It's a it's a governmental job of sloppy seconds, is
what we're talking.
Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
But yeah, but like you know, she just said she
doesn't have any quit and while I it is reported
in multiple places that she argued with battlefield generals about
what she was doing on battlefield.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
When we worked at Walmart doing set up for tastings,
you would have supervisors come over and tell you, oh,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Do that here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And so I can only imagine on a battle battlefield
trying to be the one person who's taking care of
the ill and getting in the way of the army.
I can imagine she probably really had to have her
grit in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh yeah. And and I mean part of it is
is just that like other than Nancy Fitz, she didn't
really seem to have many friends. And I don't want
to make this be true because there's no hint of
it in history. But I wonder if maybe she wasn't
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a bit like a bit of a lesbian those boy.
I mean, she would keep those those relationships to herself
because of the time period. But the only person she
was really close to as a youngster was Nancy Fitz.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, but you also have to wonder if it wasn't
just that she was one of those people that just
she had her own way of doing things.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
And that could be true, which is why I was
hesitant to bring it up. If we're gonna mention that
it you know, she would likely by today's standards, have neurodivergence,
which holy hell, I don't quite feel so bad about
Arthur excusing me of having that anymore because a negative name.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
It's just the way your brain is wired is different
than a neurotypical person's brain. We knew you were different.
They have so.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
But and it also gives me. I'm in my mid
fifties starting starting to write, really write, write some stuff
that I enjoy producing. Heck, I might be in the
middle of a book. Might I'm taking it a bit
at a time, but I'm on chapter four and I'm
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about thirty eight pages in so anyway, but the point
is so it might be a book. So if she
can be, you know, traveling to Chicago on rickety trains
in the late eighteen hundreds at eighty eight years old.
Oh wait, was that the early nineteen hundreds because she
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lived in the ninety So late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds.
Turn of this the turn of the century, yeah, turn
of the twentieth century, or no, the nineteenth century, turn
of the nineteenth cent. No, would be turning the twentieth yeah, yeah,
So at the turn of the twentieth century, just wow,
(01:03:25):
what a deal. Yeah just I'm I was so impressed
and and uh yeah yeah, I now want to run
this house like Clara Barton, would we all have jobs signing?
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah, kind of do day away.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That's okay, would say that expect expecting to get the
look I got from the both of you. We already too,
well you was it you already do? From Arthur, It's
like I listened to you. He's a good boy, yes
(01:04:06):
I know, but he's also a teenager, so he's at
that age where his daddy. He's also a teenager, but
he's at that age where boys and men butt heads a.
Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Little bit, and he probably has time where he wants
to butt you in the head with something heavy, and
me too, But that's just being a kid.
Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I wanted to put my children, my parents in the
head with things frequently as.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
A child as well. I think that's it. I think
that brings the city end of our show.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I think it does. Besides, I'm not sure how much
longer I can hold this heavy cat. You're gonna have
to bleep yourself again.
Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
You gotta bleep three for dad this week, said heavy hat.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oh yeah, well, I will probably just delete the whole
thing about the cat. He doesn't need to be in
our show.
Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Can't do that.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
He's fambart of the family. He's sitting here with us recording.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Time, and you took the filter I have to run
to remove Apollo snoring from our episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
You do not have to remove Apollo snoring from our episodes.
And does not snore that loud.
Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
It's not even snoring right now.
Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Sometimes it doesn't pick up Arthur. I know it's not
picking up cat snores.
Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's because Art, because the cat snores drowned out the Arthur.
Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Don't pick on our cats.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Fine, you still have a cat to pick on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Oh Arthur. He's here with us in spirit.
Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And that's our show. Talk about things I gotta remove.
Y'all are misbehaving this episode. Who's it was you? I
still you are for your sixteen somehow it's your phone
him ling. I will not take the slander of.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Clean Blue. He's not here to defend himself, and that's
our show.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Thanks for listening, Thanks for keeping us in The Good
POD's top one hundred. Thanks for being members of the fam.
We love you all. Thanks to Blue, who's not here. Lexi,
Laura and Arthur. I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Both, surel we are very lovable.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You are. Thanks thanks to Bill, Paige and Aaron. Bill
is Bill Barrant. That last name is spelled v e
hr e n dt. He's the maker of our theme musics.
If you enjoy those and want him to produce some
music for you, or you need someone to perform in
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Bill Barrant at SBC global dot net. Also, I want
to say thanks to pay Elmore of the Reverie Crime
Podcast who combined her own love of Canva with our
own Arthur's artwork to make some logo art for us.
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Thank you Paige, Thank you Page.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And also listen to her podcast, Reverie Crime Pod if
you like true crime, available everywhere. Also thanks to Aaron
GUNNERK of The Big Dumb Fun Show, who continues to
promote us locally. Join us next week as we look
into the cash Landrum UFO incident. Bye, do you talk
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a woman like Clara Barton? You've got to go out
of this world.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Wow, you should keep that in
I'm Dean, I'm the dad.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm Laura, I'm the mom, and I'm Arthur, I'm the.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Son, and together we are.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Mali Plott.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:29):
Everybody's part of the fan who listens to the show. Yeah,
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Thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
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Speaker 2 (02:47):
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So what are we talking about today, team.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, today we're talking about a woman who was born
on Christmas Day in a snowy Massachusetts, Massachusetts village and
grew up shy, sensitive, and fiercely curious, the kind of
kid who'd rather nurse a wounded animal than play with friends.
Clara Barton had no intention of living a quiet life.
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By seventeen, she was teaching school. By middle age, she
was dodging bullets to deliver supplies to Civil War battlefields,
and by her sixties she was founding one of the
most enduring humanitarian institutions in the world. Her life was
a masterclass in defiance, defying gender expectations, defying bureaucracy, defying
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battlefield logistics. She took on Congress, marched through war zones,
and argued with generals, all while being dismissed as just
a woman with a wagonful of bandages. All that and
more in this So that's how the Red Cross became
a thing episode of the Family Plot podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
She also happened to be my own mother's hero and
the reason that my own mother became a nurse. And
that's how I knew about Clara Barton before we ever
did this episode.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, So let's get into her early life. She was
born on December twenty fifth, for those bad with calendars,
that's Christmas Day, eighteen twenty one, in North Oxford, Massachusetts.
She was named Clarissa Harlowe Barton, named after the main
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character of Samuel Richardson's novel Clarissa. If you're not familiar
with that book, it's a pretty horrible book about a
young woman named Clarissa Harlowe who was promised to an
older businessman in marriage. She flees to the protection of
a man in her age who takes advantage of her,
finding comfort in her faith and values before her death,
(05:09):
which makes her family show remorse for the way they
treated her dumb book I See Wow. She was born
to her father, Stephen Barton, a wealthy farmer, horse breeder
and captain of the local militia, and Sarah Stone Barton,
a disciplinarian with a fiery temper who ran the household
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like a military academy. In later life, Clarissa would indicate
that she had a more strained relationship with her mother
than her father, who would regale her with tales of
military campaigns. She had four older siblings, including Dorothea Dolly Barton,
who was seventeen at the time of her birth, Stephen
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Barton Junior, who was fifteen when Clarissa was born, David Barton,
who was thirteen, and Sarah Sally Barton, who was Her
siblings would have as much sway in her life as
her parents did. It would be Dolly, who spent most
of her life longing for a good education, who taught
her to read, and when her brother David became severely injured,
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she would spend much time looking after it, learning many
rudimentary first aid techniques, including blood letting with leeches. It
would be here where she developed her lifelong interest in
caring for the sick and injured. As a child, she
was shy and sensitive and deeply empathetic. This is something
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that her parents worried about, and in later in life
they would attempt to toughen her up. Her only known
childhood friend was a girl named Nancy Fitz. That name
is so so worthy of punning.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh my god, Nancy fits.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Little is known about Nancy, but we do know that
Clara was so distressed by social situations she often avoided
them altogether. So for Nancy to become such a quiet,
strong presence in the young girl's life says something about
Nancy's own empathy and stubbornness. In school over a one
room affair. At that time, she excelled in reading and
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spelling nuts. So let's take a moment for Arthur's Corner
and catching up with Arthur in today's episode of Arthur's Cornery.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Ready, go to your corner, Arthur.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Here, ye, here, ye, Allow me to present Arthur's Corner.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Hello, everyone, welcome back to my corner.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Hello, how are we doing today?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, you seem to be doing much better than you
were last week, so I'm happy about that. As for me,
I got a rejection letter about a story I submitted
for publication to it to an EVE magazine and they
were just rude, rude, and it almost hurt my feelings.
And then I don't know, somewhere I got a moment
(08:19):
of pride and was like, Nope, that story is a
good story. There, your stories are good stories.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Are a good writer. We we enjoy your writing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So who on that who on that E magazine?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They stay crew something. I'm okay, you're okay, just okay,
it's just okay. It's Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm okay, come on, I'm I'm here with two of
my favorite people's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, there we go. She's here with two of her
favorite peoples.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And the cat and the sleepy cat that hates me.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, he's the cat sleeping in daddy's arms because he's
so happy to have his daddy.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
He is so spoilt. He is such a spoiled kitty.
He's so spoiled. He doesn't heed you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You don't see this hatred.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He's curled up in Dean's arms, happily sleeping the sleepiness
of a happy cat.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, guys, I can't explain to you how much this
isn't hate.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How about you Arthur.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You see you're doing some artwork over there as we
as we talk and record the show. I am along
along with manning the mouse this week.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I am.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I am actually doing doing pretty well this week for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's that's excellent. Yeah, I like I'm gonna complain. Here
are good things from our Arthur. The always makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I made my bed and stuff yesterday, did me and
Lexi's bedding. That was awesome. Yes, always good. I found
I found my drawing tablet pin after cleaning my side
of the of the beds. So I found my drawing
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tablet pin and I was able to draw last night.
So it always makes you happy. Yes, I'm drawing right now. Yes,
so that's fun. I'm working on my art stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because it makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It makes me happy, and I'm trying to get better
at art so it can become a.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Career for me. Good because modern day careers are not
fitting to me. You're still young, got time, yeah, but
still I don't know your options open. I always keep
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my options open. I just there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm just what I do, and what I do is
art and creativity. That's that's how I am as a person.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well like I told you yesterday. Hallmark is always looking
for artists.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They're not gonna want a furry as an artist.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You don't wish they do what.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Most places don't want furries to work at him. Oh okay,
that you're right, that isn't true. There's actually a oh yes,
fun fact, there's actually a furry.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Made the moderna vaccine. Her name is Chibe or she
Chibes something like that. Not like the food, I don't think.
But she's a fur and she made them on their
modern vaccine and she's very smart.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's actually a lot more furs that actually are very
big in today's world. So I strive to be one
of those. But yeah, I'm drawing. I'm drawing, and it
looks okay, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Looks great so far. I know exactly what you're drawing.
I don't even know what I'm drawing. If I tried
to draw something. I'm horrible at art.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I doubt that. You guys say you're horrible at art,
but I had to get it from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So yeah, probably your mother. I can't draw a stick
and make it look great.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, she draw She drew a pretty good swan.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I like her spond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Anyway. She doesn't want to talk about her mice. I
like her mice. Mice, your little mice. Okay, that's whatever
that is. Yeah, it was just doodling.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
The closest I ever came to drawing was I used
to draw a figure of a dog that I named
schlop Scott. Why I have no one slop Scott.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's a great name for a dog. No, it sounds
like a great named, great name idea for a dog. Yeah,
Slapscott is a great name. Do I see you got
new flip flops? Carly got me those? Are they nice?
Is their sketchs flip flops? Ye're awesome?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Awesome?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, Let's see what else have I been doing recently? Oh,
there's a new Dandies World update coming out on the
on Friday.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Speaking of Friday, that that's where my voice lines are due.
So I'm gonna make sure to get those done soon.
And that's exciting. Sent to you, mister mister October, Thank
you for those. I read through those. I will make
sure to do the best eleven year old boy voice
I can do. Let's see anything else we got? Juice
(14:08):
and I've been obsessed with drinking it. So now the
juice is almost gone, not fully from me, though I
only had three glasses so far. It's fine juice.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's meant to be drink.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Everybody else we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, I had a glass last night trying to get
my blood sugar up, So forgive me.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm not I'm not mad at anyone's juice. It's made
to be drunk. It's yeah, it's it's it's juice. Juice
is actually my favorite beverage.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's not even expensive juice. It's tampico, you guys. It's fine.
It's not even real juice.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, but it tastes that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It gets more happy to get chue some more.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, let's see anything else, anything else, any else? Yeah,
I was talking about the Dandy's World update. That's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, you got sidetracked with Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Friday. There's gonna be a new Dandy's World update, and
it's one of the biggest ones yet since I've started
in the fandom.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There's gonna be new machines, and there's gonna be there's
gonna be another thing. It's kind of it's like a
floor event.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
They call it a floor event because in the game
while you're playing it, there's like a likeliness for like
a blackouting called a blackout, and there's gonna be another one,
like another type.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Of floor event besides blackouts. So that's gonna be terrifying
and fun. I think there's also gonna be another tune
that terrifying and fun. I think terrifying and fun. I think, hey,
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that that could be somebody's podcasting that, you know, terrifying
and fun.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, you know, that's that's kind of the whole thought
process behind on it houses.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, if the haunted house is
really a haunted house, Yeah, sure, I'm trying to think
of anything else.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, let me throw something into the mix, and uh,
just to see if I'm the only one who's noticed this.
I don't think Thunder is completely gone. What do I
mean by that? Well, I keep seeing him around now,
So you think there's.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
A spectral fun Thunder puttering around someplace?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, Lexi has Lexi has thrown that idea out as well.
She said she felt him lay on her feet the
other day.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Since since he has.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Past, yeah, that guy can never wants to leave anyone alone,
so it would make sense he if he is still
here in spirit. I fonder my babies. I miss you.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'll keep coming out and like I'll see him, and
then I'll look again and he's gone. It's like I
know you're here. I know you're here.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'll follow you.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That would explain why I thought I saw him on
the cat tree over there, on top of that, on
top of the miles page, getting close to time to
go back to school, getting too close to time to go.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Back to school, which I just finished enrolling you in
Connections Academy today. They finally gotten your They they finally
got me your your report card from last year.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Lovely kay, and hopefully that will help me stay on track? Yes, hopefully.
Ummm let's say anything else?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes, are you okay? I'll be fine. He loves you.
I don't know, but I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know about that. He's drooling on me.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He's drooling on you because he's asleep on you. Dwel,
it's love, Jewel. What you think I'm think of messing
with you?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I'm not sure that love drools a thing? Something for
our listeners. If you think love drools a thing. Please
send me a message.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
On X definitely a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Most message blue Sky or threads, threads where Arthur is
so popular.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Why am I so popular over there?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Guys, you're popular everywhere like your little jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's fun.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Well, the key part of why you're popular on threads
is you're a trans kid being supported by your parents,
and there are a lot of trans people who didn't
get that support, so.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They're living vicariously through you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh that's fun. Yeah, sure, I'll share my parents.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Of course you have been for years, the whole time
we've been doing this podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
M yeah, true, fair enough, Okay, I was planning on
cleaning this weekendice thinking is good.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
House messy, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't feel sick anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yay, we're happy.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're feeling better, much happier. You're feeling better.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You're really sick, I have. I haven't seen you that
sick like ever. I don't think i'll when you were
like a baby, she's.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Gonna say when he was a baby maybe and he
had that interception balance or yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It was like I'm not going to go into details, guys,
but he was sick, very sick.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Have you seen the movie The Extracis.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Look, there was some there's no pea soup in Bulked,
but no peace soup. Did you have anything else you
want to talk about in your corner?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Or catching up with Arthur? Are we all caught up
with Arthur?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Looking forward to moving forward in my life? Man?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Big deal?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
All right, Well that's that's it for today. Throwing claps
for Arthur again?
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Okay, Yeah, it was time to get back to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Growing Up Clara, you could have saidden, Clarissa explains it all.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If only anybody ever helped me do these things, they could,
they could throw in these helps.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, I like it, it's good.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I just thought that was cute because that was a
Nickelodeon show back in the day with Melissa Joe mart
who I liked, liked.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Didn't she play Sabrina?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
She will also Sabrina, Yes, Clarissa explains it all.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Was her first series, I see, and.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Then she did Sabrina the Teenage Witch for years.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, way, growing Up with Clara. The word neurodivergence didn't
exist in Clara Barton's time, and she was never formally
diagnosed with any condition, but looking at how she behaved
and how people described her, there's a strong case to
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be made for the possibility. As a child, Clara was
extremely shy, so much that she barely spoke in group settings.
Her family often called her tiring and overly sensitive, which
today might be signs of sensory sensitivity and deep emotional intensity.
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She also showed signs of hyper focus, the ability to
concentrate on something, concentrate completely on something for long periods.
When her brother David was injured, he fell out of
a barn, sustaining a severe a severe headway sorry. She
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cared for him NonStop for two years. Eventually, David would
make a full recovery. Later in life, she personally responded
to over sixty three thousand letters while running the Missing
Soldiers Soldier's Soldier's Office. Clara had a tough time with teamwork.
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She often classed, clashed with colleagues, and didn't like to
share control, even at America, even at the American Red Cross,
where she was a founder and leader. But she also
had incredible resilience and a sharp mind for spotting patterns,
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especially when it came to organizing battlefield supplies and navigating
government bureaucracy. These traits extreme focus, emotional depth, social challenges,
and logistical brilliance line up with what we know about
social or what we know about autism, ADHD or other
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kinds of neurodivergence. Back then, people didn't understand these behaviors
the way we do now. In women, especially, they were
often seen as stubbornness. Oh wait, they were often seen
as eccentric, eccentric, hysterical, or morally flawed. Clara's iron will
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and unladylike stubbornness made her both a target of criticism
and a symbol of strength, depending on who you're at
wh you asked. Her father believed she needed toughening up,
so her family sent her to Colonel Stone's High High School.
(25:11):
It didn't help. She came home even more anxious and depressed.
But after that she started working on the farm with
her male cousins, writing voices and doing chores that helped
her build confidence. Oh go down, That helped her build
confidence and physical resilience. Her older siblings were key supporters.
(25:38):
Her sister Sally became her lifelong confident, confidant confident, and
her older brother Stephan encouraged her to live independently at
age seventeen, Clara started her career as a school teacher,
a choice made at her parents' insistence, but once one
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that gave her skills she'd used for the rest of
her life.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Now, let's take a minute for to hear from some
of our fellow content creators.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Do you ever want to be a guest and a
super cool podcast hosted by a glamorous power couple from
their cutting edge home studio on the outskirts of a
major metropolitan world hub Hollywood? Anyone us too? Until then,
let's pretend one.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Of these days you might get a DM, a PM,
an EM, or even a message in a bottle inviting
you to join my husband and I for an hour
or two in our chat lab working on solutions for
all the world's problems.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
And when you are invited, there's only one response.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, uh huh. You know what that sound means. It's
another episode of Game for a Movie where we ask
are you game for a movie? Tell me of it?
There's no special features on that god damn DVD. All right, Wow,
first hands ge.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
She basically has sex with it somehow. She's chair four play.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean they knocked out of the Park, which is
live final.
Speaker 11 (27:13):
The three oh.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, I wouldn't be in it because this movie
doesn't have women, but you.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Know you have one. You would have three lines of dialogue. Okay,
so I'm actually hitting it like I actually get like
I earned my four sentences of dialogue rather than here
on a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
You just stood there on the screen. You're a sexy lamp.
Because they really hate each other, so we get to
enjoy some wonderful comedic scenes of them hate each other
so much that they get into physical altercations.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Does that include her fighting.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Detective ex Detective Phillips' dick?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, but we don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I know all of those words are English, but the
way you constructed them online, I'm not very well. For
those who haven't rated us or liked or given us
a review, don't say that we haven't given you anything
of value. After listening to this podcast, you now do
the difference between an R rated dick and an NC
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seventeen X rated dick. You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Thank you guys for listening to the Game for a
movie where we ask are you game for a movie?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Bye bye.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
First impressions can take only six seconds to make, but
if you're neurodivergent. Those quick judgments about you can be misleading.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Because of most people's ignorance around learning disabilities.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
People think it means you're intellectually incapable.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
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Her mom, Yeah, I feel sponsored, Not you feel sponsored,
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I really like that. Yeah, up, not just because I've
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Well, Phil and Lisa are very cool people.
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I feel like you and Lisa would be best teams.
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We'll have to look into that. So let's talk a
little bit more about Clara's life and talk about.
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Bordentown, New Jersey. After teaching for several years, Clara Barton
moved to Bordentown, New Jersey, where she pitched a bold
idea to the local school committee build a free public
school open to all children, regardless of wealth. In a
state where education usually usually came with a price tag
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and catered to the wealthy, the proposal.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Was nearly unheard up.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
In a state where education usually came with a price
tag and catered to the wealthy, the proposal was nearly
unheard of, but somehow she got the green light.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
She launched her.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
School in a one room schoolhouse built in eighteen thirty nine,
starting with just six students. By the end of that
first year, more than six hundred children were enrolled. That's
that's quite a gross burt there. The town, impressed and grateful,
constructed a new brick school house to accommodate the growing
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student body. Then came the gut punch. Clara was passed
over for the principal's position. Instead, the job went to
a man from out of town who was paid twice
her salary. Clara, feeling deeply betrayed and clearly seeing the
gender discrimination at play, resigned and headed to Washington, d C.
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Ready to start over. In DC, she secured a job
at the usbut in office, becoming one of the first
women there to earn equal pay with her male colleagues.
Clara's strong abolitionist views and outspoken nature made her a
target under President Buchanan.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And she was eventually demoted and dismissed, but when Lincoln
took office in eighteen sixty one, she returned to her
post just in time.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
For the war to erupt.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
On April nineteenth, eighteen sixty one, the sixth Massachusetts Infantry
was attacked by a pro Confederate mob while passing through Baltimore,
an event later known as the Baltimore Riot. When the
injured troops arrived in DC, Clara recognized many of them
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as former students. Their condition shocked her. She immediately began
gathering food, clothing, bandages, and medical supplies from friends and neighbors,
staring everything in her boarding house on Seventh Street. It
is important to note that she wasn't part of ify organization.
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She was just a woman with a mission, driven by
compassion and grit. As wounded soldiers flooded into Washington hospitals
following battles like bull Run, Clara became a familiar sight,
comforting the injured, delivering supplies, and helping wherever she was needed.
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But she soon realized that the greatest need was on
the battlefield. Not afterwards, she petitioned military officials for permission
to bring supplies directly to the front lines, a radical
move at the time. In August eighteen sixty two, she
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finally got her chance. At Cedar Mountain, Virginia. Clara arrived
with wagons of supplies and immediately began helping surgeons, cooking
meals and tending to the wounded.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Her impact was so.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Profound that one doctor reportedly said General mckellum, with all
his laurels, sinks into insignificance beside the true heroine of
the age. From that day forward, Clara Barton became a
fixture on the battlefields of the Civil War, serving at Antidum, Anti,
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at Antietam, Fredericksburg, Charleston, and beyond. She often arrived before
official medical teams, delivering care and comfort to those who
needed it most. Stinking impressive huh.
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She served at Antietam, where surgeons were so desperate they
were using corn husks as bandages until Clara arrived. She
organized volunteers, distributed supplies, and even performed triage under fire.
One soldier was shot and killed while she was tending him.
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The bullet passed between her arm and his body. She
never mended the hole in her sleeve. I may be
compelled to face danger, but never fear it, she said,
and While our soldiers can stand and fight, I can
stand and feed and nurse them. She continued her work
at Fredericksburg, Charleston, Petersburg, and Fort Wagner, often arriving before
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official medical teams. Like Lauras said before, she treated Union
and Confederate soldiers alike, believing that suffering had no allegiance.
In South Carolina, she worked out of a tent on
Morris Island, distributing fresh food and mail to troops in
the trenches. Disease was rampant, and Claire herself became gravely
ill and had to be evacuated to Hiltonhead Island. Around
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this time, her older brother, Stephen, passed away just months
before the war came to a close, as did one
of her nephews in January of eighteen sixty five. Clara
returned North after the death of her brother and nephew,
but she wasn't done. President Abraham Lincoln appointed her General
Correspondent for the Friends of pear Old Prisoners, tasking her
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with located missing soldiers and informing their families. She established
the Bureau of Records of Missing Men, operating out of
her boarding house on Seventh Street, with a team of clerk.
She answered over sixty three thousand letters and identified twenty
two thousand missing soldiers. She even helped mark anonymous graves
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at the Andersonville Prison, raising the first American flag over
the newly established cemetery. This wasn't just paperwork. It was
grief work, closure, and a final act of service to
the families left behind.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Pretty stinking awesome woman, absolutely super impressive.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
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So now have time to get back to the show.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
It all right, So let's talk about founding the American
Red Cross. After the Civil War, Clara Barton was physically
and emotionally drained, as you would be. She took a
much needed trip to Europe in eighteen sixty nine, hoping
for rest, but rest wasn't really in her nature. While
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in Geneva, Switzerland. She learned about the International Red Cross,
a movement born from heroes of the Battle Oh Sorry,
A movement born from the horror's big difference of the
Battle of Solfrino.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Did I say that right?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I believe so. I didn't look it up.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Sulfurino Its mission provide neutral aid to wounded soldiers, regardless
of nationality. Clara was captivated. She volunte tiered with the
Red Cross during the Francopprussian War from eighteen seventy to
seventy one, delivering supplies and relief to civilians that experience
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lit a fire. She returned to the US determined to
bring the Red Cross model home, but it wasn't easy.
Many Americans believed the Red Cross was only relevant in
wartime and the Civil War was over. Clara argued for
a broader mission disaster relief in peacetime, including floods, fires,
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and epidemics. She lobbied Congress and multiple presidents, facing pushback
rooted in gender bias, political isolationalism, and skepticism about centralized charity. Finally,
on May first, eighteen eighty one, at age fifty nine,
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Clara Barden founded the American Red Cross A year later,
the US ratified the Geneva Convention, formally joining the International
Humanitarian Network. Clara served as president for twenty three years,
overseeing relief efforts for the Johnstown Flood in eighteen eighty nine,
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the Galveston Hurricane in nineteen hundred, the Spanish American War
in eighteen ninety eight, where she delivered a two soldiers
and civilians in Cuba. She also wrote the American Amendment
to the Geneva Convention in eighteen eighty four, expanding Red
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Cross duties to include peacetime disaster relief, a move that
changed changed global humanitarian policy. But her leadership style was intense.
Clara was fiercely protective of her vision, often clashing with
board members. In nineteen oh four, amid internal pressure and
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accusations of authtinarianism, authoritarianism.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah that she officially resigned.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I could have written anti disestablishmentarianism. Would have been able.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
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Clara Barton's final chapter, still leading, still teaching. After Clara
Barton stepped down from the American Red Cross in nineteen
oh four, she didn't settle into retirement quietly. She pivoted
as always word purpose. In nineteen oh five, at age
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eighty three, Clara founded the for the National First Aid
Association of America. The group focused on teaching basic first
aid to everyday people, sharing first aid kids with homes, schools,
and workplaces, promoting everyday prepared nope, promoting emergency preparedness across communities.
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This idea had been shut down when she was with
the Red Cross, but now outside of it, her vision
found traction. The association helped create first aid standards that
are still part of modern life today. Even in her
late eighties, Clara stayed busy with writing and public speaking.
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In nineteen oh five, she published a Story of the
Red Cross, sharing her experiences and challenges as its founder.
In nineteen oh seven, she released the Story of My Childhood,
giving readers a rare look into the life that shaped
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her mission. And in nineteen ten, at age eighty eight,
she traveled solo to Chicago to speak at a social
science convention, proving she still had stamina and conviction to spare.
Clara spent her years at home in Glen Echo, Maryland,
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a place that had once served as Red Cross headquarters.
Her health declined, but her mind stage sharp. She kept
her focus on human humanitarian work and causes she believed in.
She never married or had children.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Her family was the thousands of people she.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Helped heal, feed and inspire. On April twelfth, nineteen twelve,
at age ninety, Clara Barton passed away, leaving behind a
legacy not just built on bravery, but on bulld eyed
ideas and unstoppable on stable compassion.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So she died right around the same time that the
Titanic sink.
Speaker 13 (46:08):
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Speaker 1 (46:29):
Let's talk about her legacy pop culture, and there's even
some hauntings. She appears in The Gilded Age on HBO,
where she's portrayed raising funds for the fledgling American Red Cross,
dramatized but historically grounded cameo. Barton is featured in numerous
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biographies and children's books, including Clara Barton, Angel of the Battlefield,
and a Woman of Valor. She's also a recurring figure
in educational magazines like Cobbles, While not superhero in the
traditional sense, She's been included in historical comic series aimed
at young readers, often emphasot emphasizing her battlefield bravery and
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Red crosswork. Her dress, letters and artifacts are on display
at Red Cross Headquarters and then Clara Barton National Historic
Site in Glen Echo, Maryland. Clara Barton's impact is vast
and still felt today. Founder of the American Red Cross,
which now serves millions through disaster relief, blood donation, and
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emergency response. Pioneer battlefield medicine, chaining perceptions of women's roles
in war. Advocate for equal pay, civil rights and women's suffrage.
Creator of the Missing Soldier's Office, which reunited thousands of
families after the Civil War. Influencer of modern first st
aid through her later work with the National First Aid
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Association of America. Her legacy lives on in every emergence
she shelter, every blood drive, and every first aid kid.
There are few places where Clara's spirit is said to linger,
or at least where the atmosphere fear feels charged with
her presence. In Glen Echo, Maryland, the Clara Barton National
Historic Site, visitors reported whispers shadows in a sense of
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being watched. Some believe Clara's spirit still resides in the
halls where she once lived in work Clara Barton Tunnel, Washington,
d C. A horror documentary claims eerie sightings and disappearances
in this tunnel named after her, though it's more urban
legend than verified haunting. The Missing Soldier's Office in Washington,
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d C. Which was rediscovered in the nineteen and nineties.
This office was untouched for decades. Some say the energy
there is intense, a place where grief and a pope
once collided. Whether she's truly haunting these places or simply
haunting history, Clara Barton remains a presence that refuses to
be forgotten. You're welcome, And with all of that, a
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Speaker 4 (49:37):
Is your cat still dwelling on you?
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No? I keep moving because he's a lump and he's heavy.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
He's a heavy lump.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
You're right, Uh, so I've got to move every so often,
so I don't stiffen up something somewhere.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
All right, So we've come to that time.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
YEP, summary, final thoughts, and I think it's fitting that
you lead us off this week, was it?
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Stud Have we talked about Clara Barton here?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Like who I would? If I'd remembered that, I would
have mentioned at the beginning I do. I do like
giving you guys credits where credit, credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Like I said, I grew up that the book the
Clara Barton, the one that you specifically mentioned. The book
it's up on the next one. But Angel at the
Battlefield I think was the name of it. My sister
wrote a book report on that when she was in
elementary school. No, no, down here.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
It was in this top here.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Angel Clara Barton, Angel of the Battlefield, my sister wrote
a back in the nineties. My sister wrote a book
report on that when she was in elementary school. So
I guess it actually would have been the late eighties,
maybe the eighties, early nineties. Yeah, wait, probably late eighties.
But anyway, so I I still remember my mother helping
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her with that book report and talking about how Clara
Barton had been the one to inspire her to go
to nurses school and become become a nurse, and my
mother spent my mother spent a.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Better part of.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
The better part of her career and her adult life
as a nurse and took care of everybody else's family
and saved lives. So she's always kind of been an
overarching spirit in my personal family's life too.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
So.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
But I mean, this was a lot, a lot of information.
I obviously didn't know all of it, but just in
general as a mother who has birth female daughters and
understand some of the frustrations that women have gone through
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and see travesty and have turned to the Red Cross
for different things throughout my life. She was definitely an
inspirational human and inspirational woman and just really marched all
over history.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
And showed her stuff so much that she turned up
in an HBO show and then some and a few
other places.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Absolutely, how about you, Arthur, You want to do final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So big question? Do you dislike her as much as
you do? Sharon Kenney?
Speaker 13 (52:42):
Not a question.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Barton's a hero. Sharon Kinney was a murderer.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Just to see the look on murder, Just to see
the look on Arthur's face, just at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
that that are you saying, Dad?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Have you been eating the stinky as Blue would say
if you drinking the tea trioil.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
But Blue was the one who drank the tea tree oil.
I know. Anyways, Anyways, she seems like a very lovely woman,
or seemed like a very lovely woman, and she saved
a lot of people's lives. And you know what, I
can relate with her on that, and I appreciate her
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as a woman, and.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
She a creator.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Into her eighties, she was still lightly She didn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Man, People retired, people retired, but she didn't.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
She didn't. She just kept going like, oh, I'm not
gonna do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
Okay, I'll do something else.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh I'm done with that.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Okay, I'll do something else.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Here to stop.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
She was almost ninety years old and traveling by herself.
She's just like, yeah, I got this.
Speaker 10 (54:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
They had trains then, which which is a weird thing
to me.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Okay, but stay with me here. Jim was ninety one
when he passed, and that man had all of the
conveniences of living in this day and age, and still
like there were times where.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
We, you know, we didn't want him to go too
terribly far.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
And this woman traveled like probably days to go from
one state to another state on train and she was
eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Well, you know, I mean, was she going to wait
for a husband? Is she didn't have? Did you not?
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I'm just saying just you and birth?
Speaker 1 (54:50):
And I'm not sure she could have been in a
relationship anyway, just because of how much control she felt
like she had to have. That is that is certainly
a thing of of neurodivergence. We either want to be
in control or nowhere not even touching it. It's not
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even mine. I don't want it. Like there's no middle
ground for us. There's no cooperating my way or the
God highway. Pardon I gotta bleep myself.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Now, you got to bleep yourself. Wow, that's gotta believe
himself this week, Arthur.
Speaker 14 (55:29):
That's insane. Usually it's me. You have to believe I know. So,
I get that, I get that. Well, you're an authoritarian. No,
I just know what I'm doing. I have a goal here. No,
what's going to get us closer to that?
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, she's a very strong and stuff and stuff and things.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Very strong independent woman.
Speaker 5 (55:56):
Why would she need a man after doing everything she did.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
But I'm not saying she did.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I'm saying like I mean, I mean, I know what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
I'm just saying I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
To speak through her in a way.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Although it sounds like some of her family like we
owe them a tip of the hat. Steven in particular,
who was the one who told his parents, look, he
let her go be person, live independently because they weren't
going to.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Then off, she went to teach schools and then and
that's another thing that she encouraged, public free, public schooling. Yeah,
something that you know children benefit from all over the
country today.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Well, did you also catch why she left Why she
went to.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
DH because they gave her job.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
She founded the schools, the public scho got everything going
through them six and then when they opened a new school,
they gave the head job to a man and paid.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Them double what they've been You're done a great job,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
You're you were born with the wrong ding, so we can't,
you know, give you that job. Nobody would believe a
woman in that position.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
Take it away from you and give it to somebody
who hasn't even been involved.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
You're just you're just gonna be in control.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
She said, Okay, the f you, I'll go to Washington
and go hang out at the Capitol.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Do something else with my life. And so she did.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
She didn't have any quit in her Nope. I like
that immensely. I enjoyed. Like I don't always enjoy doing
the research. Sometimes I really have to struggle through it,
especially if it's like some murderer or something like that.
But this was easy because, like everything you turn up
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like yeah, yeah, yeah. And the one thing I've done
that reminds me a little of it is the episode
we're doing in two weeks on the US Ghost Arm.
That was a lot of fun too.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
You were excited about doing the research on that one too.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Like I said, the research doesn't always thrill me it's
but this did because she was just so like, every
time you thought, wow, that's pretty amazing, she would do
something even more amazing than topic and top it and
then beat myself. Some of the things she's doing.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Are filmmaking a difference today what.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
She's doing them at sixty seventy eightys, you know, starting
a whole new organization because you quit the last and
because people were like you're too strict in your rules. Okay, fine,
you run it.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
I'll go do something else.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
See if you go, you can have it.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
I'll do something you think you can do it better year.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'll leave you to it.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
And what did she pick something that she'd been voted
down on in the Red Cross? Yeah, I'm sure she's.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
Okay, I'll start it on my own.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Then. I'm sure she was not thrilled to have a
board of directors.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
I would imagine not.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, like, then.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Youre are it.
Speaker 3 (59:36):
You have to bring other people on. The only unfortunate
thing is at some point you become the minority and then.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
You lose your vote.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Like I can, it's better than all of you. But
unfortunately you don't know that. And there's more of you
than there is of me. So I'll just go do
my thing over here and let you let you have
my leftovers.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
You pretend that know what you're doing in this spot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
It's a it's a governmental job of sloppy seconds, is
what we're talking.
Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
But yeah, but like you know, she just said she
doesn't have any quit and while I it is reported
in multiple places that she argued with battlefield generals about
what she was doing on battlefield.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
When we worked at Walmart doing set up for tastings,
you would have supervisors come over and tell you, oh,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Do that here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And so I can only imagine on a battle battlefield
trying to be the one person who's taking care of
the ill and getting in the way of the army.
I can imagine she probably really had to have her
grit in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh yeah. And and I mean part of it is
is just that like other than Nancy Fitz, she didn't
really seem to have many friends. And I don't want
to make this be true because there's no hint of
it in history. But I wonder if maybe she wasn't
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a bit like a bit of a lesbian those boy.
I mean, she would keep those those relationships to herself
because of the time period. But the only person she
was really close to as a youngster was Nancy Fitz.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, but you also have to wonder if it wasn't
just that she was one of those people that just
she had her own way of doing things.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
And that could be true, which is why I was
hesitant to bring it up. If we're gonna mention that
it you know, she would likely by today's standards, have neurodivergence,
which holy hell, I don't quite feel so bad about
Arthur excusing me of having that anymore because a negative name.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
It's just the way your brain is wired is different
than a neurotypical person's brain. We knew you were different.
They have so.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
But and it also gives me. I'm in my mid
fifties starting starting to write, really write, write some stuff
that I enjoy producing. Heck, I might be in the
middle of a book. Might I'm taking it a bit
at a time, but I'm on chapter four and I'm
(01:02:42):
about thirty eight pages in so anyway, but the point
is so it might be a book. So if she
can be, you know, traveling to Chicago on rickety trains
in the late eighteen hundreds at eighty eight years old.
Oh wait, was that the early nineteen hundreds because she
(01:03:05):
lived in the ninety So late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds.
Turn of this the turn of the century, yeah, turn
of the twentieth century, or no, the nineteenth century, turn
of the nineteenth cent. No, would be turning the twentieth yeah, yeah,
So at the turn of the twentieth century, just wow,
(01:03:25):
what a deal. Yeah just I'm I was so impressed
and and uh yeah yeah, I now want to run
this house like Clara Barton, would we all have jobs signing?
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah, kind of do day away.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That's okay, would say that expect expecting to get the
look I got from the both of you. We already too,
well you was it you already do? From Arthur, It's
like I listened to you. He's a good boy, yes
(01:04:06):
I know, but he's also a teenager, so he's at
that age where his daddy. He's also a teenager, but
he's at that age where boys and men butt heads a.
Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Little bit, and he probably has time where he wants
to butt you in the head with something heavy, and
me too, But that's just being a kid.
Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I wanted to put my children, my parents in the
head with things frequently as.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
A child as well. I think that's it. I think
that brings the city end of our show.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I think it does. Besides, I'm not sure how much
longer I can hold this heavy cat. You're gonna have
to bleep yourself again.
Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
You gotta bleep three for dad this week, said heavy hat.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oh yeah, well, I will probably just delete the whole
thing about the cat. He doesn't need to be in
our show.
Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Can't do that.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
He's fambart of the family. He's sitting here with us recording.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Time, and you took the filter I have to run
to remove Apollo snoring from our episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
You do not have to remove Apollo snoring from our episodes.
And does not snore that loud.
Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
It's not even snoring right now.
Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Sometimes it doesn't pick up Arthur. I know it's not
picking up cat snores.
Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's because Art, because the cat snores drowned out the Arthur.
Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Don't pick on our cats.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Fine, you still have a cat to pick on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Oh Arthur. He's here with us in spirit.
Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And that's our show. Talk about things I gotta remove.
Y'all are misbehaving this episode. Who's it was you? I
still you are for your sixteen somehow it's your phone
him ling. I will not take the slander of.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Clean Blue. He's not here to defend himself, and that's
our show.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Thanks for listening, Thanks for keeping us in The Good
POD's top one hundred. Thanks for being members of the fam.
We love you all. Thanks to Blue, who's not here. Lexi,
Laura and Arthur. I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Both, surel we are very lovable.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You are. Thanks thanks to Bill, Paige and Aaron. Bill
is Bill Barrant. That last name is spelled v e
hr e n dt. He's the maker of our theme musics.
If you enjoy those and want him to produce some
music for you, or you need someone to perform in
an event, Bill's your guy. You can reach him at
(01:06:54):
Bill Barrant at SBC global dot net. Also, I want
to say thanks to pay Elmore of the Reverie Crime
Podcast who combined her own love of Canva with our
own Arthur's artwork to make some logo art for us.
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Thank you Paige, Thank you Page.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And also listen to her podcast, Reverie Crime Pod if
you like true crime, available everywhere. Also thanks to Aaron
GUNNERK of The Big Dumb Fun Show, who continues to
promote us locally. Join us next week as we look
into the cash Landrum UFO incident. Bye, do you talk
(01:07:34):
a woman like Clara Barton? You've got to go out
of this world.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Wow, you should keep that in
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