Mayday, Performers to Liabilities In A Month

On this week’s Razzball Fantasy Baseball Podcast, Grey and B_Don break down all the fantasy fallout from a volatile May. From surging stars to sinking ships, we look at the players who went from must-starts to mayday alerts.

We kick things off with a pair of exciting call-ups: Jac Caglianone gets the call from KC after mashing through AA and AAA. And in Seattle, Cole Young announces his debut with a walk-off.

Then it’s time to sound the alarms on May’s biggest underperformers like: Mason Miller, Teoscar Hernández, Fernando Tatis Jr., Pete Alonso, Oneil Cruz, Max Meyer, and Brice Turang — we dissect who to buy low, sell off, or hold through the storm.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (01:09):
Hey, everybody, welcome back. In is the Raspball Fantasy Baseball Podcast.
I am beat on, joined by the one, the only,
the Fantasy Master, Lithario himself. Great, alright, how's going over there? Grey?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey? What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Just just chilling? I I actually saw a video. Man,
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get the batter, I'm gonna
get the hitter. Incorrect, but it was a Tampa Bay ray.
I don't know if you saw this. Uh this is
hilarious though, So now there's uh now instead of like

(01:44):
arguing with the umpire behind home plate, have you seen
this video of the guy getting into it with the
home plate umpire, the Tampa Bay Ray or not okay,
so okay, so he I wish I knew what the
who the hitter was. But anyway, so the Tampa Bay
ray hitter is at the plate, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Like a call by the umph. He doesn't like a
strike call, so he, you know, he looks at the
ump he give them. He gives him the old the
old stink.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Guy, right, uh, and the ump goes out and you
know how ams are, he's trying to do the swagger
right and he comes out. He's like he's brushing the
plate and you know, they're like they're jawn a little bit.
But the Tampa Bay ray hitter isn't saying anything really
because if you say something then you you get tossed.

(02:38):
So instead of saying something, he just looks at the
yump and he taps his helmet, meaning what the what
they were doing during spring training in order to have
a call rechecked by the ABS system and the umpire
loses it. All the player does is tap the helmet,

(02:58):
and the umpire like he's starts screaming at him. I
don't know if he tossed him, but it was just
so funny because like the hitter doesn't even have to
say anything. He just taps his helmet and the umpire
gets all bent out of shape. It's so funny. It's
a good video. If people are out there who haven't
seen it, try and find it. I'm sure you can

(03:19):
find it on Twitter or something. It's very it's very funny.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah. I mean I just I just touched in you know,
Ray's hitter, and it comes up with it. It was
Taylor Walls.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, I mean yeah, nice Taylor Walls. Okay, good, good
for Taylor Walls. It's just so funny. He just like
he literally just taps his helmet and the umpire is
like what, It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, the the fragile ego of umpires is is kind
of unbelievable. And the fact that can't be held accountable
for anything doesn't doesn't help either. Gray it's all just
you know, just show up, like the paycheck once you're in. Man,
it's a it's a good gig. I should have I
really should have been a professional empire.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, totally, yeah, no, I think everyone should. Unfortunately, there's
only so many jobs. But if you know, if AI
is here to stay everyone's going to be needed new work.
So I say we all become empires. Everyone, everyone become
an umpire. Yeah no, it's just so it's just so

(04:21):
funny that now with the just tapping a helmet makes
him lose his mind. Oh I love it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I love it. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I also I also cannot wait until the ABS system
is actually in place. That's that's one thing, man, I
I'm all about, Like I have no problem adapted to
new technology, even though I don't want to have to
adapt myself. So here's the thing, Like I don't know
how to set a microwave clock, right, I can't do

(04:55):
anything when it comes to technology that I'm willing, but
I'm willing to accept it when it comes. Like I'm
fine with like new technology as long as I don't
have to do anything with it. So the ABS I
cannot wait. I'm so excited about it because like it's
it's well well well past the time when like hitters

(05:17):
need to have or pitchers even have to have like
the whims of an umpire, whether the umpire's right or wrong,
Like come on, man, like we're so past that point.
Like I was watching the NBA playoffs because Koogs is
a Pacers fan. She her family has season tickets for

(05:37):
like thirty years, like they've been going forever anyway, So
she's a big Pacers fan. So we're watching the NBA playoffs,
and I mean, I honestly, I've watched so little of
other sports. I didn't even realize they had instant replay
in basketball. I had no idea. I was like, wow,
that's cool. So I saw it and I'm like, oh man,

(05:58):
this is like, this is so good good that they're
able to stop play, get the call right, and just
go ahead with like no one, and no one seems
upset about it. In basketball. I don't know, maybe I
missed the stuff where people were upset, but like baseball,
people still seem upset about instant replay, where it's like,
just get the call right, Who cares, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna blame this one on the demographic of
the fan bases here. The NBA is full of young
fans who who really don't care. Great, they really they
could care less, whereas Major League Baseball is filled with
a bunch of old people who shake their fist at
the sky and at any changes. And I include myself

(06:43):
in this you know, I shake my fist in a
lot of a lot of baseball changes that come. But
uh no, the strike zone, or at least being able
to challenge the strike zone will we'll be welcomed, in
my opinion, just just move it along and maybe break
down some of the umpire, you know, fragility, just if
you can be called out and told you're wrong multiple

(07:05):
times a game, like eventually you have to realize you're
not right all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And also like they get they get so many calls right,
I mean, you know, like no one ever wants to
give them like credit where credits due, but I'm happy
to do it. I think they're they do an amazing job.
Like if you got ninety eight percent of the calls right,
that's amazing. Good for you, man. But why don't we
just get the other two percent? Right? I mean, why not?

(07:32):
But is it really that big of a deal. Let's
get them all right? Why not?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Anyway? Uh Sue, we're I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what, we also don't want to go in,
you know, down this rabbit hole, Gray, So we'll just
we'll move on from from the umpire. There's plenty of
things that that we could suggest to you, let's let's
get into it. Let's let's get into some call ups.
Gray Jack cagleone who's just been tearing it up this
year across double, A, triple. He has fifty games, fifteen

(08:02):
home rounds, two stone bases. He's hitting three twenty two,
three eighty nine, five ninety three is a twenty print
cent strikeout in a ten and a half percent walk
right across the two levels. I mean, what are your
thoughts on him? I I mean, I think you we
agree he's pick up across you know, any sized league
at this point. But you know what, what else? What
else do you have to say about him? Uh?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, Jack, Jack Caglione. I have you know my uh
my Italian side of the family, my my mother's side
Sicilian Sicilian side.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I am.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I am able to pronounce Italian names. That's the only
means I'm able to pronounce apparently Caglione. I yeah, Jack
cag Uh. You know, it's actually funny his his first name,
Jack is His full name is Jeffrey Allen Caglione, and
Jack is a recursive acronym. It's a It's an acronym

(09:04):
of Jeffrey Allen Caglione. So his name is actually Jeffrey
Allen Cagleione Caglione. Just for anyone who's uh, who's keeping
the math, I think, yeah, I mean I agree with you.
I think he's a pick up in every league. I
don't see why you wouldn't at least try him. I mean,
he looks like better than pass uh Pascatino just on

(09:32):
like uh, just like immediately, like I mean, we'll see.
But I mean, you know, Pascatino though, was like I mean,
he was considered somewhat of a prospect when he got
called up, so and we saw where that went. Yeah,
I mean I think, honestly, i'd probably be surprised if

(09:54):
what you would call it, if Caglione doesn't have more power,
because you know, Pascatino never really had the power. The
reason why, I mean, it's like the same team. They
also played the same position. So that's why I'm, you know,
harping about Pascatino. But I think Caglion can be better
than that. You know, whatever that whatever that ended up,

(10:17):
I mean, it ended up being worse than Loney eventually.
I mean we thought it was gonna be amazing, you know,
but I mean, he he's in so in the minor leagues, Pascatino.
To keep harping on this comparison, Pascatino hit twenty four
homers in the minor leagues in twenty twenty one in

(10:40):
one hundred and sixteen games, and as you mentioned, Caglione
was about to pass that in like twenty five games.
I mean, Caglio was blowing that out of the water. Basically,
he was hitting a home run like every game and
a half. I mean, it was just ridiculous. He probably

(11:03):
could have been called up. He probably could have started
the year with the Royals, to be honest, but I
mean I I think there was something to him going
to the Miners and learning a new position, because, you know,
as boring and as terrible as Pascatino has been, I mean,

(11:23):
he's still the first baseman. So I mean I get that,
and I understand like they wanted to send caag leone down,
you know, if nothing else, at least he's able to,
you know, play the outfield now somewhat. I mean it's
a right it's right field. Who cares, But yeah, I
think I think he's probably at worst we're looking at

(11:45):
from you know, what do we have two thirds of
a season left, So I'd say twenty ish homers. Maybe
I would put him down for like probably five to
six homers a month, So yeah, maybe maybe twenty twenty

(12:05):
four homers. Realistically, I think for this year, even he's
never really struggled with strikeouts, he has a decent walk
rate in the miners this year, actually every year he's
had a decent walk grade. Even in spring training he
had an over twenty percent walk grate. I mean, he's

(12:26):
just killing. He's really killed the ball everywhere. So it
would be interesting to see, like if he hits a
wall at some point ever, because right now he's just
like flying. He flew through the miners. I mean he's
looking like he's looking special, Like he could be you
know that guy, you know, the sort of like thirty

(12:48):
five plus homer to seventy five plus hitter, no speed,
but you know that's a corner outfielder. I would say,
you know, compare him to like a Taioscar Hernandez maybe
something like that. But you know, for right now, I guess,

(13:08):
you know, realistically, maybe like Jake Berger ish kind of
like you know, the the in car the present day
Jake Berger that's in the majors again and hitting, even
though he didn't really hit this past week. But yeah,
I would say cagleone, I wouldn't like drop anyone too

(13:31):
amazing for him because at the end of the day,
he is a rookie who has no speed and is
just going to bring power and potentially, you know, a
okay average, you know, so realistically twenty homers, two fifty
average from this point forward, which is good. I mean,
there's nothing wrong with those numbers. I would say more

(13:53):
than likely, you know, not really, like not really someone
who's gonna, you know, changed the complexity of your whole
fantasy team. But I mean, I guess you never know,
Like if he comes up and does anywhere close to
what he was doing in the miners, I mean, the
upside is insane. Like we're talking like, if he comes

(14:14):
up and he continues to mash like he was doing
in the miners, then we're talking about an actual, you know,
a league changer. But I don't think. I don't think
he's gonna do that, because you know, it's a it's
a big ask to come up to the majors and
do something like that. Like recently we saw Nick Kurtz, who.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know he was.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
He struggled a little bit, he started, he started to
come on as of late, right before his injury. So
but that's kind of I think a similar sort of guy,
Nick Kurtz, Jake Jack cagleone sort of the same difference.
Uh So, Yeah, but I would pick him up in
every league absolutely. I feel like, for fab a thousand

(14:59):
dollars league, you're looking at roughly one hundred and twenty
plus dollars. Probably in a one hundred dollars league, you know,
anywhere from twelve to fifteen dollars, I would guess an
absolute difference maker. But you know, we'll see. I think
it's worth it for the upside alone.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Absolutely, yeah, I mean, I agree, Gray, you should grab
him up. And you know, it's not like first base
is overflowing with amazing options that you're trotting out, So
absolutely grab him up. You know he could put up
I mean, I think twenty home runs in like two
fifty from here on out is attainable in a little

(15:44):
bit of room to grow on probably at least the
average there. You know, if he kind of hits the
ground running, how is last name comes out to Caglione.
I don't know. That's one of those weird Italian things
where they just throw a bunch of a inn's and
o's back and somehow they just its own. It doesn't

(16:07):
matter what the combination is or how many of them are,
just it just comes out as own. So it is
what it is. Let's let's move on to our second
call up this week. Great as Cole Young, who is
called up in Seattle Triple A. This year, he had
fifty four games, five home runs for Stone Basis. He's
in a two seventy seven, three ninety two, four sixty one.

(16:28):
He had an eleven and a half percent strikeout rate
and a twelve point seven percent walk rate. He had
a walk off RBI in his first game. What's your
thoughts on Cole Young here? Uh?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, you know, I think he could actually I see
potential for him being even more valuable for a fantasy
than cag Leone because he gives power and speed. There's also,
I mean, there's the big problem with him is Seattle
and the park. It's just so bad. It's so difficult

(17:03):
to you know, even like j Rod, I think he's
a top five type bat, but in Seattle you see
the struggle even for a j Rod to you know.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Get that.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
That quality of fantasy value that's just like it's just
so bad there, it's so bad, which actually makes cal
Raley even so more impressive. But yeah, I think Cole Young,
you know, I don't think his I don't think he's
going to hit the ball that hard. So you know,
he was in the minors. He in incredible contact, eleven

(17:43):
point four percent strikeout rate, twelve point seven walk rate
in fifty four games in Triple A, which equated to
a two seventy seven average, So that I mean that
to me, that sends up a red flag. It's like, oh,
he's making incredible contact, he's got speed. How is he

(18:04):
only a two seventy seven hitter in TRIPAA? And I
would imagine it's because his hard hit percentage is just
so bad. So, I mean, he seems like the kind
of guy who is going to have, you know, some
good speed, some good contact, but hit the ball so
weak that I mean the down on the down. The

(18:28):
worst case scenario is like Nick Madrigal as an example
of a guy who does that, and the best case
scenario is like someone who like Jack Wilson, Jacob Wilson
right now in what he's doing with Sacramento. So you know,
there's so there's good and bad with making a lot
of contact. So I think, you know, Cole Young could

(18:50):
potentially hit for a decent average. I just worry if
he's hitting everything and making contact on everything but not
hitting it hard, he could be really boring. So there's
I think there's some potential here. I don't know if
the power is really going to translate like I see restless.
Season projections have him for like five homers, which I might,

(19:13):
honestly be optimistic. If he hits you know, two to
three homers from this point forward, it went and shocked me,
you know, and then he has to steal a ton
of bags in order to really be worthwhile. So if
he's like a three homer twenty steal two forty hitter,
it's awful. If he's a you know, seven to ten

(19:37):
homer hitter with twenty steals and a two sixty plus average,
then it's interesting in all leagues. But I don't know
if he really is that. So I like him. I
like him for a flyer and like fifth I would
say fifteen team mix leagues or deeper. Uh, definitely AO
only obviously, but I would say in the fifteen team

(19:59):
mix league. I think I actually got him in one
league for FAB. I I want to say I bid
like thirty bucks out of a thousand, which is you know,
that's basically just like you know, a flyer in a
thousand dollars FAB league. That isn't really that big of
a bid. Actually, I got him for seventeen dollars, So

(20:21):
seventeen dollars out of a thousand, so that's just basically
just throwing money at a guy to see if you know,
something comes of him. I don't expect much to come
of him, to be honest, so we'll see. But he's
you know, he's also got middle infielder eligibility, So if
you're struggling at middle infielder, which I'm sure a lot

(20:42):
of people are, it's not a terrible flyer to go for,
you know, I would guess that he's likely gonna be,
you know, worse than Marcelo Mayor, and Mayor hasn't really
been that good, So that gives an idea of what
I think of him right now. But there could be

(21:03):
something there. We'll see. I I do like the contact.
I mean, that's that could be something. A good contact
can go a long way, but if it's if it's
weak contact, then it's like it's not it's not the
greatest thing.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean, it looks kind of, you know, like
he you know, the way to his fantasy value is
as a nice babbube and him just putting the ball
in play. That's not usually a great skill set to
bet on. It can kind of fall into luck, but
it's just not one that's overly productive for a game.
He does have a little bit of speed, but not

(21:40):
like burner speed. So yeah, I mean you can grab
him up if you're looking for a middle infielder. But
I'm not nearly as excited for him as I am
for Caglione. You know, Kaglione's got got legitimate power that
we could do, we could see on display, and you know,
as we both mentioned, he's he's not struggled along the

(22:01):
way at any point. So it just he just looks great.
To this point of his career. It's it's hard to
really say anything bad about him, whereas Cole Young, even
in the miners, is not overly impressive. Like his best
numbers in the Miners was eleven, twenty two, two seventy seven,

(22:22):
three ninety nine, four forty eight, one hundred and twenty
six games Like he comes up and does ten ten
fifteen would be I think very aggressive for his projection.
Even that's pretty boring. Uh. Moving on to somebody in
Seattle who isn't boring, and that has been Kyle Raley.
He had six homers this week. Great. He is up

(22:44):
to number four overall on the Player Raider in fifty
eight games this year is twenty three home runs, six
on bases, thirty nine runs, forty five RBIs he's sitting
two sixty four, three seventy nine, six thirty seven. He
finished the seasons strong last year and has just carried
it over. What are your thoughts on cal Rawley? Is
this now a buy seller hold on him and he's

(23:06):
obviously the number one catcher, but is it more than that?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
N I don't, I don't know, Like I guess if
you could sell him, I would, I don't know if.
I don't know if that's really a feasible strategy though,
I mean, I don't know if anyone's really buying them,
to be honest. Uh, he's probably like one of those
guys that's like more valuable to you. If you have him,

(23:31):
then you're gonna be able to get in a trade
unless like unless someone really covets Col covets Cow. I
don't I don't see that.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't. I don't see like a scenario like realistically
where someone's like, oh, man, I want cal Raley. Here's
I don't know j Rod for instance. It's like I
don't see that really as a realistic scenario. So I
don't know. But yeah, I mean, if you have cal Rawley,
you hit the lottery basically. I mean, if you're if

(24:05):
you have cal Rawley and you're not in the top
three in your league, like I don't know what you
did wrong. You did something massively wrong in like the
rest of your team, because like he's just killing it. Man,
it's just insane. I mean, not only the twenty three

(24:26):
homers is obviously crazy by uh you know, by June,
but to have also six steals and hit two sixty four.
What it's like if he had twenty three homers and
was hitting two oh five with zero steals, you would

(24:47):
be over the moon. Not over his moon, because that's ginormous,
but I mean, you would be really happy if you
had cal Raley and he was doing nothing but hitting homers.
But on top of homers, he's also on paced for
like fifteen steals and he's hitting two sixty four. That's nuts.
That is so crazy. Yeah, I mean, I would imagine

(25:11):
everyone who has cal Rawley is at least on the
hitting side of things, in the top three in their league, because, like, imagine,
like he was basically free in drafts. So imagine you
like drafted, like you know, you're whistling Dixie and you're like, oh, well,
let me see. I guess I have the sixth Oh,
I have the fifth pick. Okay, I guess I'll take

(25:32):
Aaron Judge whatever. Twist my arm. Oh okay, And then
randomly I picked two hundred. You're like, I guess I'll
take cal Rawley whatever, like you just stumbled into like
the best hitting team anyone's ever seen, just like randomly.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Man, But I don't have cal Rawley in any league.
So I mean, I'm obviously speaking from a jealous point
of view. I wish I had cal Raleigh, man, I mean,
he was just totally free and literally every league like
you could have had him for nothing whatever you wanted
to pay, Like if you were like, uh, yeah, I

(26:13):
don't know. I guess with my two hundredth pick, I'll
take Cal raw who cares all. It's like, oh, you
just got the you just lucked out, man, you just
stepped in it so majorly. Yeah, I don't know, especially
then and then you take away like and that's even
in a shallow league. But if you imagine you're in

(26:33):
like a catcher like a two catcher league, or even
if you're in like a one catcher league, but it's
a deep league, say you're in like a fifteen team
or a two catcher league. You're in an ale only
league and you have Cal Raleigh. That is so huge
for man, it's almost as big as butt. That's that's

(26:56):
the Uh, that's that's what I'll say there. His fantasy
value is almost as large as his behind.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't think you've talked about a player's rear end
of this much since since Robbie Ray Gray. Uh and
then in opposite manners, you know, yeah, I mean he's
been he's not been amazing. I have him in our
in my in the dynasty league, and uh yeah, my
hitting is hitting is stacked in there. They do maybe

(27:24):
sort of a few things out on the pitching side,
but uh yeah, I mean he's been been great to have. Yeah,
I guess would you trade? Let me throw some names
at you, Gray, would you trade? We talked about him
last week and had somebody in the comments on YouTube
tell us we were wrong Paul Goldsmith.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Gold Yeah, of course. Oh my god. Okay, someone someone
said they wouldn't trade Paul gold Shit.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, no, somebody just told us we were wrong about saying,
you know, sell Paul Goldman. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, No, I would sell Paul Ultimate for cal Rawley
in a second. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I how about Freddy Freeman. You know, let's move up
to the no.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
No, And I don't even really like Freddy Freeman, but
I would take Freddy Freeman over cal Rawley.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
See, I would go ahead and make that one. I
would go ahead and take cal But I understand he
is a catcher and things are probably gonna not go
this good. But again, you know, Freddy Freeman's also hitting
three sixty five with a four to twenty one babbit,
so you know there's there's a little bit of a
regression here for both of them. I'll tak the one

(28:34):
who's still gonna hit home runs though, and Raleigh personally.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I saw I saw on I saw on Twitter. I
think I think it was on Twitter. I saw Freddy Freeman.
Like they had someone listed like the top stats for
the month of May, and I saw Freddy Freeman was
hitting like four to ten in May. I was like, Okay,

(28:59):
that's that's just ridiculous. I mean, you know, I think
Freddy Freeman is very talented, but I don't think he's
a four hundred hitter. Obviously, no one is really, I mean,
you know, even though everyone judge is any close to it.
But yeah, no, Freddy Freeman, I mean, on a bum

(29:19):
ankle is still doing really well. You got to give
him that.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, how about one more for you? Gray? You didn't
like him preseason and we didn't really know if he
was healthy the first month of the season, but it's
turned it around.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Raphael Devers, Oh you know, I would take Devers.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, I would think I would take Devers as well.
Any concern over the injuries seems to be gone given
what he's done in May, So yeah, I would I
would go that way. But like I said, I think
Freddy Freeman, we might differ on if we had to
redo rankings as of right now. But you know, I'm
just a Freddie Freeman hater. I'm just always gonna bury
him in my n That's just what I do. Let's

(30:03):
go over to some uh, let's go to May to
a gray. It's some some players who did not perform
in May, but we're performing before May.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
So I need to know, you know, which version of this.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Player is real should we get Are we gonna get
the March in April version or are we getting May?
And we need to panic. Let's start with Mason Miller.
March in April he had eleven Indians in one six
fourth ear a. He had twenty two strikeouts and two walks.
That's a fifty five percent strikeout, great gray, and a
five percent walk rate. In May he had eight and

(30:39):
two thirds innings. He had a ten three eight ear
A with fifteen strikeouts and eight and eight walks, significantly worse.
If you know that was too many numbers? Any concern
here with Mason Miller, who was, you know, the number
one closer in baseball at the turn of May, and
then it's been bad.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It's the yeah, ras ball colon if that's too many numbers.
That to be our tagline. We're fan graphs without numbers. Yeah,
I would say, you know, the the sample size on
a closer is already so small, so it's like, yeah,

(31:22):
I mean April was a great month. May was a
terrible month. But April was eleven innings and May was
eight and two thirds innings. So are we really like,
you know, it's like a guy with those few innings
if he has like one bad outing or he throws

(31:43):
like you know, he throws three walks to like one
strikeout in like one game, that skewers his entire numbers.
So you know, like take every all of Mason Miller's
I think, take all his stats with the great assault,
and with all that said, I would still be a

(32:04):
little bit concerned because if we remember correctly, with Mason Miller,
he was always a little bit of like a worry
that he was never gonna stay healthy. So I never
really bought in on Mason Miller, even last year. I
was always a little bit hesitant on him because, like
going into last year, I believe before he became a

(32:26):
full time closer, like he couldn't stay on the field
for like more than twenty innings, like he had a
real he had a real problem staying healthy. So now
he seems to be healthy. But like his you know,
like you mentioned the numbers, I I just sort of
rementioned them. I mean, the walks are really bad in May.

(32:48):
I wouldn't you know. I'm not saying, you know, throw
the baby out of the bath water, but out of
the U the guys were gonna go over who had
bad maize, I'm I'm pretty concerned about Mason Miller's more
so than a couple of the other guys were about
to go over. So I don't know if i'd sell
him low necessarily, and I don't know if you even

(33:09):
have to. I feel like he's still got a name
brand where if you could move Mason Miller for something decent,
I could see that, because at the end of the day,
it's still sagging off and you just like you just
pick up, you know, you go to the waivers and
pick up someone else, Like I don't know who's available,
and you know, a rasball listener or league or you're

(33:36):
the person who is listening to this, I don't know
who's available, but I'm sure there's someone available. Like even
in my even in our RCL leagues, I'm still able
to pick up guys like, you know, I Shelby Miller
looks like he's behind Justin Martinez now, so you might
be able to get you know, you might be able
to trade Mason Miller for like, you know, a bat

(33:59):
PLUS'B Miller or something and end up having just as
good a closer and having about as well or something.
You know. It's like, you gotta figure out what's gonna
work for your team and in your league. But I
would be selling Mason Miller, not necessarily based on his
may but just based on the whole body of work.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, I really don't mind it if you want to
go ahead and move him. And like he said, he
still has a name value to be moved as a
top closer. The stuff is still nasty when you watch him,
so he kind of just so that out there. The
velocity's fine. So when they go look at the numbers,
you know, it's not like he's dropped five miles an
hour and everything looks terrible. You know, look at through

(34:42):
the numbers, it looks like the four seam maybe a
little flatter, which when you're throwing that, you know, sixty
percent or more of the time that that could be
an issue if it gets just a little bit flatter.
But I think he'll be fine. As you said, though,
if you can trade him for you know, draft day
or you know, top closer value, I would go ahead
and do that and finding somebody else to fill in

(35:05):
for him or get a lesser closer to you know,
in part of that deal, because even at the end
of the day, even if he is really great, it
is still the athletics, and you know, the ultimately you
need saves out of a closer. You know, that's what
you have them for. That's the one category you really
really have them in and penciled in for. So I

(35:28):
really don't mind moving on from Mason Miller. Have to
mention every year he seems to have some kind of
arm issue. I mean, he's had a rotator cup issue
in twenty two, he had a ucl spring in twenty three,
practured his hand in twenty four, which you know, not
necessarily his part his fault, but also you know kind

(35:50):
of kind of his fault. So uh, I there's there's
definitely some concern about him staying healthy. Moving on, Gray
Oscar hand as throughout through April yeah, he's hitting three ten.
He had nine home runs, four stone bases, nineteen runs
thirty two RBIs eighteen percent strike route strikeout rate, a

(36:10):
two and a half percent walk rate. In May, hitting
two seventy three, he has only one home run, one
stone base, ten runs, ten RBIs a thirty and a
half percent strikeout rate and a five point one percent
walk rate. You know that came with bad ball being
a little bit worse that haven't been hard hit actually
were up. But what are your thoughts on taskar hand As.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
On the thirty day Player Raider, they Oscar Hernandez is
right below Lennon Sosa and Jordan Walker, who I thought
retired many did. And then he's behind Miguel Andrew har

(36:57):
Again I thought he was in the cave. Guess he's
not in Mexico somewhere obviously so and then also in
front of him is Louis Robert Junior. Wow, he's who's
hitting one seventy six for the month of May. Or
I guess hit one seventy six for the month of May. Okay,

(37:19):
So yeah, tay Oscar at a miserable May, obviously, but
I would be if there's some way to buy low
on him. I would be doing it because he was
also I mean he was injured for half the month.
Oni had Uh, he had fifteen games in May. Struggle
struggle bus for sure, but he's still in the middle

(37:39):
of that great lineup. I I would be betting everything
on a turnaround for ta Oscar Hernandez. And if I
could buy him low, I absolutely would. I think he's
still he's totally fine. He didn't. I don't think he
suddenly got old in the month of May. He just
had an injury, struggled a little bit when he came back,

(38:00):
but not even like I mean, he still hit two
seventy three in May. He just he didn't have like
you know, and no great power. But that's fine. I mean,
he could hit five homers this week and he would
be right on pace again to have a thirty five
homer season. So yeah, I would be I would be buying.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I mean, I would be buying. I don't know
that I want to pay for. You know, somebody's just thinking, oh,
he's going to go back to what he did in April.
Maybe not at that rate, but yeah, kind of Draft
day tey Oscar what we what we thought he would do.
I don't mind buying at that rate, or maybe just
below that, just because I thought his draft value this
year was maybe a little inflated on the back of

(38:45):
his like his best season he's ever had, or our
second best season he's ever had, so somewhere right below
his draft values kind of where I would be looking
over on a higher ADP, Guy Gray, even from tay
oscar Is Fernando Tatist Junior. To start the season he
hit three forty five, eight home runs, seven stolen bases,

(39:08):
twenty five runs, eighteen RBIs, and then in May he's
hit one eighty four with five home runs in three
stone bases, fourteen runs, and ten RBIs. That's about half
the half of the average that he had in April
or March. In April, Gray, what are your thoughts here?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, he's he's actually, he's interesting to see on the
thirty day Player Raider because, like you mentioned the average,
So in the last thirty days he's hit one seventy nine,
so even a little bit worse than you know, the
one eighty four because it's including yesterday June first. Anyway,

(39:51):
he's you know, one h he hit one seventy nine,
but he's still around the one hundredth best hitter on
the thirty day Player ra which isn't It isn't great,
Don't get me wrong. It's you know, still a bit
of a struggle. But it's basically around Kerry Carpenter, Jose Altuve,

(40:12):
Trent Grisham to give you an idea of where a
hundred lands on a thirty day Player Raider. So you
know that I mentioned that because like he still has
power and speed, so that like carries a lot of weight.
You know that that old jack up a guy's fantasy value.
Even when he's struggling to hit for average and get
on base. He's you know, he's still stealing bags and

(40:35):
hitting for power. It can only get so bad, you know.
So I I don't like I said to sell Tatis.
I want to say around the first week of May,
actually not to you know, not to toot my own
horn here. I did say to sell him when he
was at his peak, because he was never going to

(40:56):
be a three point fifty hitter. He looked he really
his numbers were super inflated coming out of April because like,
you know, his I forget what his babbit was, but
it was pretty high for him who's and he's not
usually a high babbit guy, even though he does have speed.
You know, he has a three twenty career babbit. So anyway,

(41:20):
long story short, I mean he has power and speed.
I you know, I wonder how long he can stay
on the field because he's also not a guy who's
known for staying healthy. So if I could sell Tatis
based on like draft value, I probably would still be
doing it. I still think like we haven't seen the

(41:42):
worst of Like when he gets injured and just misses
thirty days, I think that's coming at some point. Unfortunately,
I still think he's also but he's also still valuable.
Like I don't want to, you know, say he's not
worth anything, Like he still is worth something. So if
you can get draft day value, I would do that.

(42:05):
If you can't get draft day value, then the better
better will you know, the better days will come. I
think he's still got power and speed. You're looking at
closer to a thirty thirty, twenty five to sixty hitter,
which is great. That's not there's nothing wrong with that,
but you know, he's sort of he's close. You know,

(42:27):
he's he's not going to come close to what he
was doing in April either.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, and the problem this season I think has just
been he seems to be just knocking the ball into
the ground. Ground ball rates over fifty three percent in
both punts. Babbitt was three fifty six now and then
there was one ninety two. So it's definitely some bad
Babbitt bluck, which will happen when you hit fifty three
percent or higher of ground balls. The launch angles the

(42:56):
lowest it's ever been Gray. I don't know if he
went to Toronto in the off season and did some training,
but he's just kind of beating the ball into the
ground if he's not hitting a home run, and that's
not not a great way to go about things sometimes.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Hey, Hey, so let's going to a fornandotis Junior.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Man? Thanks for thanks for reaching out. I'm I'm Vlad
Guerrero Junior, and I'd love to take you through some
of the steps on how I achieve so many ground balls.
Come on down, Come on down to Toronto and let's
go over it.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Look at the contract they paid me to hit ground balls.
You two can hit and get me.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I can fix you up real quick.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Do you have a famous name, and then Junior at
the end of it, I can make you hit the
ball into the ground. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Boba shut as long as you're a son of a
former player.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh great, all right, let's move on to another picture here.
Max Meyer. You know, the beginning season, he looked like
one of the breakout aces. He had thirty four innings
three one eight e r A one two one whip,
He had a thirty three percent strikeout rate, a seven
point seven percent walk rate. And then in May Gray

(44:17):
he has a twenty five and two thirds inning collapse
of a six three one e R A one five
six whip, a thirteen and a half percent strikeout rate,
and a six point eight percent walk rate. What's happened
to Max Meyer? I mean he's just he's he's been
unusable Gray.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, that is true. Uh yeah, I mean it's uh,
you know, it goes, it goes a little bit to
the small sample size of like month to month. But
he hasn't been good. I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I you know, I don't know. I I worry a
little bit about his health because you know, he's never
really he's never really stayed healthy and he hasn't really
shown an ability to be really good for an extended
period of time, so you know, outside of like minor league,
some minor league seasons. But yeah, I mean, I think

(45:14):
he's worth like grabbing in you know, streaming in a
twelve team league or shallower you could stream him in
a fifteen team league, I would probably he's probably rosterable,
but i'd probably, like I would bench him in tougher matchups.
I would probably I would start him here and there
and see how it went. I don't think he's drop

(45:37):
able in fifteen team mix leagues and deeper, but I mean,
he's he's pretty borderline. I don't know. I think he's
like with a guy like him, because he's never really
shown any serious track record. As the season progresses, I
get more and more worried that he's the player the

(45:59):
pitcher that he showing more recently, because like, you know,
the further we get away from April, it seems like
that was the mirage versus what he's doing now. So
I don't have a ton of hope here. I'm not
I wouldn't be buying necessarily, but if you know, in
most leagues, or at least for most of our listeners.

(46:22):
He's available off of waivers, so like you can try
and stream him and maybe he figures it out again
and then you know, then you can roster him. But
at this point, it's probably like at best a fifteen
team mix league, where if the matchups are good, and
you know, right now it looks like he's better at

(46:42):
home than he is away by by a large by
a large margin. So I would probably say, like, Okay,
go with you know, go with him in good matchups
at home, see what happens, and then you know, go
from there.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, I am throwing him in the Parts League today
versus Colorado at home. If he cannot get to a
versus Colorado at home, Gray, he is hitting the waiver
wire his last few starts here. Gray, I'm just gonna
run him off. Since the end of April, basically April
twenty seventh, gave it five earned to Seattle, not great. Uh.

(47:22):
Then he gave up five earned to the Athletics, five
earned to the White Sox, four runs only three earned
to Tampa Bay. Then you sat him down because how
could you pitch him versus Chicago actually had a good
inning six innings, one earned versus Chicago randomly and then
goes at San Diego and gives up six runs, four
earned and three and a third. Like I said, today

(47:44):
is his last opportunity, and if not, I mean it's
he's gotta go. I think you're pretty much everything. If
you can't do Colorado in Miami like that's that's that's
about as bad as it gets. So last opportunity. Velocity
is down from ninety six and a half to ninety

(48:04):
four point nine. That's that's gotta be a main culprit here.
So I wonder if there's not a phantomil stint that
comes if he gets lit up versus Colorado and they
just just let him figure out, you know, get his
arm back to one hundred percent, get his velocity back up,
and then I don't know. I mean, I hate to
say that he can't be a starter of this early

(48:26):
in his career, but I wonder if a moved to
the bullpen and a closer role might be better, because
we've seen him at good short bursts and so maybe
it's just keep his arm throwing high velocity jeorder Inanians.
But we'll see. Moving on Pete Alonso, he started out
the season hitting three forty three with seven home runs.

(48:47):
Twenty two to twenty eight, he had fourteen point six
percent strike strikeout rate a sixteen point eight percent walk rate.
In May, he's hit two thirty four with four home
runs only nine runs in fifteen RBI is a twenty
nine percent strikeout rate and a six percent walk rate.
You know, it looked like a brand new ped Alonzo,
Like he wasn't striking out, he was taking the absolute

(49:11):
ton of walks and just tending everything gray. And that
is just thats regrets to last year's ped Alonzo.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, I think it's uh. I think it goes to
show you that like a guy has like he has
a certain level and you know from it's like baseball is.
It's a a you know, one hundred and sixty two
games of like peaks and valleys, and at the end
of the day, a player is probably who we thought

(49:39):
they were. It's just like if you put on your
blinders and shut out like the peaks and valleys and
just see them in the big picture, they are who
they are. But if you're looking at like you know,
myopically and seeing like a player from like week to week,
it's like, oh wow, he's a different player, but he's not.

(50:00):
He wasn't a different player. He wasn't a different player
in April. But he's fine. I mean, there's nothing wrong
with pet Alonzo. But he's like, you know, he's a
forty homer two forty five hitter ish to fifty maybe,
I don't, you know, he's in there. He's in that

(50:21):
range probably to forty maybe. Yeah, I mean he's fine.
There's nothing wrong with him. I just don't think he's
anything that. You know, He's nothing like he was in April.
There's no way the April numbers were gonna last. Really,
I mean, I forget what it was. You know, his
babbitt was insane in April. The whole thing was, like,

(50:43):
you know, it was a crazy month for him. But yeah,
I mean he's totally fine though still. I mean, he
hits the ball hard. I believe he homered. I want
to say he homered on Sunday. I wouldn't be shocked
if he has a solid June, you know, like, you know,
not not a Kyle Schwarber June obviously, but a good

(51:06):
June nevertheless.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, and Peter Alonzo in his career has been pretty
peaks and valleys, just you know, that's just kind of
how he's been. He gets hot, he gets cold, and
you just kind of got to kind of ride the wave.
I mean, let me let me ask you this just
to the general question Gray, when you when you have
players like this and you can't be dropping a Pete Alonzo,
a Tatis t Oscar, you can't really drop anybody other

(51:31):
than Max Meyer that we've talked about, Like, what do
you do with them? Do you sit them down on
your bench and play kind of a hot hand from
free agency? Do you do you start them knowing that
any one game they can hit two home runs and
get back on track. What are your thoughts in general
when you have a roster with you know, a struggling

(51:51):
guy or two on it.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I I personally don't move a guy like that in
and out of the lineup, you know, so probably like
roughly top one hundred ish, I don't really mess with
those guys. I just let them, you know, set it
and forget it. Unless you get, like, you know, six
weeks in and you have a player like you know,

(52:16):
Christian Walker for instance, who really has never been hot
this year. At a certain point you got to look
at them and be like, maybe I should just you know,
either bench them or move on. But a guy like
Pete Alonzo, I would just, you know, especially after his April,
I would just left him. I would have left him
in my lineup for all of May and you know,

(52:36):
just hope, hope at some point he came out of it. Yeah,
I mean he hit he hit four homers in May. Oh, sorry,
no he didn't. I was looking. Oh yeah, he did
actually hit four homers in May. Yeah, I mean he
hit four homers in May in two thirty four. That's
I mean, you know, it's like you want more obviously,

(52:57):
but that's like I would take that, and you know,
you take that so you don't miss the random like
you know, two home er game where he comes out
of it. It goes four for four with two homers,
you know, randomly. I'm like, you know, a Saturday in
May and he does that, and then it's like, oh no,

(53:17):
I got to get him back in my line up
for Sunday. And then Sunday comes and you have then
ten days of him going oh for four every game,
and then you're like, oh, I got to take him
out and then you lose the good game again. It's
like it's not worth all that. That's like I feel
like that's a over that's like micromagic, don't I don't
do that. I like certain players. I just like set

(53:40):
and forget it. But there's other ones where like if
a guy hasn't been good all year, like you know,
I feel like I'm fielding every other question in the
comments is about Brenton Doyle, Like I get I get it,
Brendon Doyle hasn't been good. I would try and hold
on to Brenton Doyle because the summer in cors he
could be good, I you know, and he has speed

(54:01):
and power, so I would tend to try and hold
on to it. But if you have a guy like
that who's just been struggling all year, I mean I
could understand benching that and trying to get a hot
hand in and seeing if something comes of it. But
you know, I feel like most part guys in the
top one hundred more or less unless they've struggled now

(54:23):
for two straight months. Like if a guy struggled for
two months, at a certain point, you're either you're cutting
bait or you're benching them until they come around. Like
up until Saturday, Marcus Simeon had done nothing for two months,
so and then he had a four for four game,
so and then like you see that, it's like that's
a sign that Marcus Simeon might be coming out of it.

(54:45):
And last year at this time he did start to
come out of it. So I would start now looking
to put Marcus Simeon back in the lineup. But I
could have understood if you had Marcus Simeon on your
bench for the last like you know, week or two,
because he's been so bad.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, I would still go ahead and unload Markus Simeon
immediately off off of that that one game if you
can and just get rid of that pain. That's that's
just something I would do personally. Even last year when
he quote unquote got it going, it was still pretty bad.
So yeah, that one, that one we can agree to

(55:23):
disagree on. But yeah, Alonzo, you know you're probably leaving
him in there. Let me ask you, Gray, you know,
if you picked up the way you've been active on
the wire, you've got like Gavin Sheets, Ryan O'Hearn both
clearly above him. On the last thirty day. You know
we're sitting here in June, are you starting you know,
Gavin Sheets and Ryan O'Hearn over Pete Alonzo or you

(55:46):
fitting you know Alonso in there and sitting one of
the other two. Based based on matchup.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I would, you know, well, Gavin Sheets, I think crashed
into a ball on Sunday, so I don't know if
he's healthy right now. But in your scenario where Gavin
Sheets and Rhin O'Hearn are both healthy and hitting, well,
let's say last week, I wouldn't have picked up one
of them. I would have only had one of them,

(56:17):
and I would have been playing Pete Alonzo. So I
guess the answer is I would have only had Sheets
or O'Hearn and then had Alonzo on my lineup. I
wouldn't have bothered, you know, picking up both of them
because I couldn't have played them. Now, if I could
have played all three, then that's a different scenario, and
I would have played all three. I wouldn't have any

(56:40):
point taken Alonzo out of my lineup, even if I
could have picked up someone as hot as o'hearne or Sheets.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Okay, that's that's a maybe a little bit going around
it to answer it, But I get what you're saying here, Gray.
You know, I think I think you probably would pick
him up because in the scenarios they do have duligibility.
But I understand what you're saying. You don't need three
first basement in theory, and also you're not you're just

(57:10):
not pulling Pete Lonzo out of your lineup. I will
say the one place where I'm a little bit different
is when we're talking about head to head leagues because
somebody just cold freezing up your lineup is and they
can kill you, especially in a shallower head to head league.
So I will just I will kind of ride the
hot streaks a little bit more in those. So if

(57:31):
you get somebody who's cold for you know, a full month,
a week or two, you just kind of move past that.
But we start getting into the month discussion and they're
just they've been bad. I really don't mind, you know,
sitting them down for someone who's been performing better, or
just you know, swap them out in the right matchups.
Let's talk about Odeo. Crew Is Gray. We both love him.

(57:55):
You start out great, two fifty three, eight home runs,
twelve stone bases, get a twenty s seve and a
half percent strikeout rate, which is great for him in
a fifteen percent walk rate. In May, he said two
h two with four home run six on bases. The
strikeout rate is up to thirty eight point four percent.
The walk rate's still fourteen percent, so that's good. What
are your thoughts on ONeill Cruise? I feel like, you know,

(58:18):
both sides of the o'eiled Cruiz discussion have had a
month now, Like the good side, like it's the strikeout
rates down. We know he's gonna have power speed. Look
how good it's been, and then the strike out right
came out, came up, and now he's bad again. What's
your thoughts here on one cruise? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You know, I honestly I don't I have Oneil Cruz
in one league. I wasn't really aware that he was
having such a terrible May. To be honest, I knew
it wasn't as good as April, but really the only
major downside has been his average. And you know, like

(59:01):
four homers in six steals in a month pro raded out,
it's twenty five. It's a twenty five thirty five season.
I mean, okay, you don't want a guy hitting two
oh two, obviously that's an issue, But assuming you know
the bounding average is just like peaks and valleys and
will come around. Like you know, in April he hit

(59:23):
two fifty three, it may hit two oh two. He
is a you know, he's prone to strikeouts, so maybe
he's you know, somewhere in the middle there, which isn't
you know, isn't great. But if he's a two thirty
five hitter with twenty five homers and thirty five steals,

(59:43):
that's really not that bad. I mean, it's it's not
as good as you wanted him to be, but it's
not as bad as you know. Maybe some might think
that's still like that's still like a top thirty five
forty hitter. Uh maybe top thirty even it depends on
how much the average really drags him down. So I

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still like him. I think, you know, I think it's
just peaks and valleys with his with his k's, the
k's were up, like you mentioned, which isn't good. You
hope that he gets you know, he gets.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Hot in June or July, and you know, he has
like a two seventy five batting average type month in
June or July, and it sort of averages everything out
and as long as he's still hitting for power and
stealing bags.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I think everything will be fine, you know, at the
end of the day. I think if he's if he
ends up as a two forty hitter and hits you know,
twenty five homers and steals thirty five bags, I would
I would take that in a second. So I'm not
super concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I am either. I mean,
even hitting one ninety five, he's the most He's the
most value whole player on the Pirates Gray, which is
kind of crazy. He could hit one ninety two for
a month and still easily be the best hitter on
the Pirates. I think maybe the Pirates just like correct him.

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They're like, you're too good, You're making everybody feel bad.
You gotta slowed down. We gotta we gotta do something here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah. Also to that point too, like he was with
a one ninety five average in the last thirty Day
Player Raider, he was as valuable as Bryce Harper, who
hit three ten. So that gives you an idea of
like and Bryce Harper didn't have a terrible month by
any stretch of the imagination. But O'Neil Cruz is just

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because of you know, power and speed, man. I mean
it does a lot. It helps a lot when you
have that. So, yeah, I would be buying if I could.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I think I went too great, you know, just
as the comparison would you have O'Neill Cruz or almost
the identical set of problems Wyatt Langford.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I you know, I kind of like O'Neil Cruz better
than Wyatt Langford. I feel like I'm a Wyatt Langford
hater for some reason. I just don't. I mean, I
know he's fast, but I don't trust the Rangers to run,
and the Pirates seem very content with letting O'Neil Cruz
run as much as he wants, which you know, from

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a fantasy standpoint, it's not I don't think it's great
for real baseball, but for fantasy if the guy's running
is you know, like look at like Chandler Simpson is like,
I don't care if he's good for real baseball, just run, man,
So I I go O'Neil Cruse over. Why at Langford
they're close and by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
By the way, I am holding on to Chandler Simpson
where I have him waiting for the callback because he
might be the Steels only playing playing like half the
season this year. Yeah, I would. I would also take
Ondeo Cruise over White Langford for the exact same reason.
Just the power seems very very in line between the

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two of Home and O'Dell Cruz is just gonna get
more stolen basing opportunities. They're both hitting too many ground
balls in May, so kind of a swing plane issue
that I think they can both get figured out. I agree.
Let's move on to second base, where Bryce Terrang started
the season hitting three seventeen, three home runs, eight stolen bases.

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He had twenty eight runs, fifteen stolen bases, a twenty
percent strikeout rate, and a seven half percent walk rate.
In May, he has hit two oh seven with a
home run and six stolen bases, only twelve runs and
eight RBIs. Twenty five percent strikeout rate fifteen percent walk rate.
Is nice. What what's your thoughts on Bryce Terrang, who

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I believe is still number one among second basemen because
second base is this season.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Is booty.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
It is much like Cal Raleigh, but in a bad way. Yeah,
I would, Uh, you know, Bryce Terrang.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
It's like he feels like he's a he's sagging off
with like steals right, So if you need steals, he's
very valuable, and if you don't need steals, he's basically useless.
So he's kind of like, you know, he's sort of
a one category guy where like I don't know if
you have him, and like, you know, like we're saying,

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like he's the number one second baseman, so it's like
you're not doing better at second base. But also if
you don't need steals, you could be like you know,
you could grab like say Brandon Law it's for second
and then you know, trade Terrang for something you do need,
like potentially, I guess, So you know, I would say

(01:04:57):
at the end of the day, Bryce Terrang is like
a knee. If you needs steals, Okay, fine, he's fine.
You know, he'll come around. He's not gonna hit like
one ninety every month. He'll be okay, uh as far
as average goes. But yeah, I mean he isn't He's
not gonna like hit for power. Really, he's just gonna hit.

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He's just gonna steal bases. So it's it depends on
what you need, really, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I mean it circles back to kind of what we
were talking about with the ground ball rate and just
being being unpredictable. Fifty five percent ground ball rate, BABBITB
is gonna be a monster. And he went from three
eighty to two eighty babbot within a month and the
average dropped one hundred points just like the babbeb did.
So it's it's just a little bit of luck sometimes

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when you put that many not hard contact balls into
the ground unfortunately. But yeah, like you said, there's not
really like you're you're gonna get much better at second
base from a player rate of perspective. It's really about
what you need, and second base is kind of a
position of of one category guys, So maybe you just

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swap him out for a different one categoryory guy at
second base, or you know, look to improve at a
different position and back fill second base, because again it's booty.
It doesn't really matter who you start there this morning,
all right, Grey, let's sag off it up. Let's move
over to the bullpen over in Arizona. Justin Martinez comes
off the aisle and immediately gets saved. Does it just

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seem like they've demoted everybody and just swap jmrt back in?

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, you know, I was, I was somewhat joking in
the comments on h on my post on Monday that, uh,
you know, Justin Martinez is gonna look great and he'll
be the closer until Thursday, when he's gonna, you know,
suddenly have an arm issue again and they're gonna say
like he's not able to recover and he's gonna end

(01:06:58):
up back in the aisle. So you know, I was
half joking, but there's some there's some truth to it,
because you know, he wasn't able to recover earlier in May,
so I don't know if he's really fixed what's going
on with his arm, Like I doubt it. I doubt
he's just suddenly okay. So if nothing else, he stays

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healthy all year and him and Shelby Miller share in saves,
and you know, like Justin Martinez can't go in back
to back games, so Shelby Miller sees more opportunities than
most guys who are the number two guy. So I
don't mind Justin Martinez if he's healthy and he's pitching.

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I think he's actually he's very good. Shelby Miller has
been very good too, though, so I would probably roster
both of them in most leagues outside of like the
most shallow leagues I believe in like an RCL twelve
team mixed league, I would roster both of them. So
you know, that's as shallow as a league as I play.
And a ten team mix league, you know, that's so

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shallow where guys are, you know, potentially on waivers. Justin
Martinez is probably still rosterable there. But I don't know
if Shelby Miller necessarily in a ten team mix league.
But yeah, I think they're both. They're both good though,
so it's I don't think there's any real harm in
rostering either of them, both of them even.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah, you just see if Justin Martinez can stay healthy
for a week or two before before letting go Miller officially.
But yeah, you're right. J Mart's been fine when he
has been healthy. It's interesting because like when starters get injured, Gray,
it's like, okay, we're gonna have him throw from different distances.
We're gonna have him throw a simulated game or two,

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and then like three innings, four innings, four innings again,
five innings, maybe like see how many see if you
can get up to eighty pitches and maybe that's or
six innings and then we're believers. It's like he threw
two innings. He's good to go. Let's get him back
out there. San Francisco, they've officially announced Ryan Walker's out,

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Camillo Davall is in. You think this will last more
than a week?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Gray? This is so bizarre because I could have sworn
and like the end of April, we did exactly this
before with Ryan Walker and Camillo Daval.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I'm pretty sure, unless I totally imagine the whole thing,
I'm pretty sure Daval became the closer for like a
week in April and then suddenly just lost the job
without anyone even announcing anything. Ryan Walker went back to
saving games for most of May, not looking great, and

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Davall continued to be good, and then suddenly Devall's the
closer again. So I don't know, I mean, maybe now
that they've actually announced it, it'll stick. Yeah, I mean,
Deval's been great. I you know, I've I've had Daval
probably since his uh, his little stretch of being the
closer in April. I've had him in our in our

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RCL league, which a twelve team mix league, So I've
had Daval for a while. Now he's his peripherals don't
really look that good. I mean, he doesn't look like
anywhere close to the pitcher he was back when he
was like a dominant closer, Like his k per nine
is seven point six and it was like awful. His

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walk rate is almost four. I mean, he's not he's
not pitching very well, but his era is one point
oh four. So you know, as long as he's as
long as I guess, the results are there, uh, he's
he's fine. But yeah, I don't, I don't know, but
I do. I do think daval is the closer now.
I just don't think it's really like he's not really

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very good, even though his era seems to uh be
indicating he is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yeah, I mean I I agree that the numbers do
not look like what they did at one time. But
he has not given up a run since April seventh grade.
That's that's pretty impressive, and even more impressive that they've
you know, handed him and taken away the closer job
three times just for no reason. Like I said, he
is not allowed to earn run since April seventh and

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they still haven't. They still just like, no, we're gonna
take it away again. So yeah, I mean grabbed the ball,
but also probably hang on to Ryan Walker.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I don't even imagine it. He did become the closer
at some point actually in May.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Each month he gets it and then a week later, boom,
they put somebody out there for again no reason at all.
He doesn't do anything wrong. But yeah, I mean, you
can still hang on the Ryan Walker. You potentally hang
on to Tyler Rodgers, who's been just as good as
the ball and his peripherals don't look like like garbage.

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Any any three of those are you know, potentially you know, rosterable,
bullpen armed regardless of I guess probably not a ten
team or Shallot twelve, but anything deeper than that, you
probably own all three of these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Yeah, agreed, All right, Greg, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Give the people some waivers. I'll give them some streamers,
and we will finish out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Oh key. So it looks like on the seven day
player raider on top of the top guy there who
is available in more than thirty percent of the league's
is Max Munsey. He had a huge weekend against the Yankees,
probably partially thanks to me, because I benched him for

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the first time in one league. So that wasn't smart,
not the smartest who I've done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Then we have Carlos Santana, the hitter and not the singer,
Jose Cabriero multiple position eligibility. Over with the Rays, Addison
Barger has been really hot for I don't know, maybe
like two weeks. But he looks really good. Maybe we'll

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discuss him further next week. Ernie Clement, also with the
Blue Jays, has been hot. Jake Myers, I believe he's
lost his everyday job but or he's injured or something,
but he was He was hot before. Miguel Vargas is hot.
Trevor Larnick looks like he's been very hot. Gabrielle Marino,

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Javier Bias. Heyesus Sanchez. There's a name Will Benson. I
didn't even think Will Benson was hot anymore. This is interesting.
This seven Day Player raiders pretty interesting to me because.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Seven days is pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah, I'm actually being surprised by some of the names.
I'm actually mentioning. Austin Wells. I guess he had a
big weekend. He's high on this list. Uh, Nathan Luke's
Colt Keith And finally Hasung Kim has been hot and
uh you know, with Mookie Betts's toe. I don't know,

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Kim might see some more playing time, uh in the
in the near future. So yeah, there's some names for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Yeah. So I just just background for everybody that this
listening still through the podcast. It's probably like two people.
But I always give Great a list of names here
for Waiver wires what she ignores and just pulls his
own list. But I was pulling my list this week
and I was like, what what year are we in
right now? Because Carlos Santana, Randall, Grit Chick, you on Mancata,

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Andrew McCutcheon, like all these names came up, and I'm
just like, what what happened? Did we get in a
little little you know, time traveling and pulling names five
years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Dylan Carlson? I like, how you have dying? You have
Dylan Carlson. Then I I d K, which I can
only assume is I don't know. I don't know. I
think that's supposed to be I k F.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
As a player to pick up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Okay, that's a good answer, you know who should pick up?
I don't know. You know, that's a really good response.
Sometimes Gray streaming options Zach Lettel versus Miami. I keep
throwing him out here because he somehow keeps getting good matchups,
and he's been he's been performing pretty well recently. Jamison
tally On at Detroit, Edward Cabrera at Tampa Bay, Michael

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Waka at the White Sox. Mick Abel is getting a
spot starter. Maybe he's getting gonna get a little bit
of time if he can have another good start at Toronto.
Miles Micholas versus Kansas City, Lendin Roop gets Route gets
San Diego and Atlanta. Landon Nack gets the Mets. Chris
Paddock continues his hot streak versus Toronto, and then Chad

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Patrick versus San Diego. There's some names for you, depending
on how deep of leagues you're in. If you have
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hopefully your lineup decisions are correct and your matchups go
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