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Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's right, folks. On the episode of the Rashball Fantasy
Football podcast today, we're discussing the key streamers and potential
sleepers in Week sixteen that could get you to your
fantasy title. Discuss that all that and more starting right
now on the Roseball Fantasy YouTube chan and we have

(00:35):
a trifecta today, folks. A lot of fun. Honestly, I
couldn't keep the guys away at this point. They were
fighting for jockeying and they both were like, I want
to do it, and I was like, you know what,
both of you guys can do the show today. I'm
excited to have you both on to talk QB tight
end defensive streamers. Oh you know, I might even sprinkle
in a kicker or two and some sleeper potential flex
plays that can help you get into your fantasy title. Today, Derek,

(00:56):
what's going on, man? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah? Doing well? Survived my matchups for the week one,
so looking forward to the next round of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, man, Honestly, I've got a couple of leagues myself. Ben,
how you doing, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah? Man, gone well and enjoying life. My parents had
that fortieth wedding anniversary two days ago and it was
great and then might be extremely sick for the last
twenty four to forty eight, am, But I'm fine now
ready to talk to football.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That a boy. That's why I like to hear you
back off the schneid. He was limited practice on Wednesday,
but he's back in full ready to go time all right. Yeah, no, jeez,
there are people you're getting that sleeper link update where
it said questionable his healthy status. He's from healthy to questionable.
It's only Wednesday, folks. None of those matter anyway, But

(01:43):
we're glad Ben's on the show today on a short week,
by the way, usually he's here only on Fridays for us.
But honestly, Ben played a little Thursday night football in
our world. I like this right now. It's good stuff.
So today's show, really, guys, I kind of want to
keep this free flowing and talk a little ball. Honestly,
today is really four people. If you're in week sixteen,
you're in their semi finals. That's great. But there's a

(02:04):
lot of things have changed a lot over the last
few days. A couple injuries, QB changes have kind of
changed the dialogue here a little bit. But I kind
of want to go into it by peace. So obviously,
let's talk about the most important position in the NFL
can debate if it's the most important position in fantasy
is the quarterback position? Derek go throt you first, when

(02:27):
you talk about Week sixteen, who is your ideal QB
streamer for this week? And give us maybe an example
or two of a kind of quarterback you'd start them over.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, So for me, I'm pretty much going to stay
away from you know, some of the you mentioned the
new quarterbacks out there. To me, they are completely off
the board. I wouldn't even consider them a streamer. What
I do consider those streamer is someone like Drake May.
I mean he's been he's been pretty good. But to me,

(03:02):
you know, you're talking about the semi finals and the playoffs,
do you really want to leave your your fantasy and
quarterback position to Drake May against the Bills in Buffalo?
So that that one's a tough one for me. So
that would be my my my line between you know,
do I do I take a chance on more more

(03:24):
stablished quarterback or you know, do I just roll the dice?
And I mean I love Drake May. Don't get me wrong.
He's probably going to be a target in most of
my drafts next year, but it's just really hard for
me to to trust him this this week. So I
have a I and I have a situation in in

(03:45):
what you know, the league that Matt and I share,
we have both Jordan Love and Baker Mayfield. So that's
kind of that's the kind of decision that I'm looking
at this week, which one of those two do we play?
And you know, frankly, I think Baker Mayfield is still
somewhat of a streaming option at quarterback. I don't understand why,
but I mean, he is the quarterback seven for the year,

(04:07):
but I think in many cases he's still he still
doesn't have that level of trust that we you know,
that we give to someone like Jordan Love or or
you know, maybe even well like to a take a
Tua is the same way you know, we trust to
he has this level of trust, But do we play it,

(04:27):
you know, someone like Baker over Tua, you know, or
Jordan Love. So those are the kind of decisions that
I'm looking at this week.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, I gotta disagree. I think Baker's he's he's rostered heavily,
and I think people are in and by the way,
I that Dallas game. You know, when you get to December,
you know, having a nice dome game against the defense
who's gonna not have Trayvon Diggs who just lost one
of their key linebackers too. Baker's like, you know, if

(04:55):
you want shootout potential, that game could be fun. I
don't really know what to feel about Rush as a player.
I want to talk about in a minute, but throwing
it back down to you, Ben, Obviously, Drake May's name
has been floated around a little bit here. You know,
what's kind of your thoughts on Drake Man? Who's your
kind of QB streamer this week?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I've kind of got my streamers in like different tiers.
There's the guys that aren't really streamers, like a Baker Mayfield,
like a Sam Donald, where they're probably owned in enough leagues,
but you might have two quarterbacks and therefore you need
to choose between two. For me, guys like Mayfield and
Donald their top eight options this week, you absolutely have
to start them. Then there's these guys that are kind
of okay plays, but they've got better matchups. So we're

(05:33):
talking about guys like a Jordan Love or a bow Nix,
where they're kind of solid plays and the matchup's okay,
you can feel pretty good about starting them without knowing
that there's going to be a massive amount of upside.
And then there's those streamers who have the tough matchups.
They should be better most weeks. There's something like a
Jared Goff. Usually you'd be confident about starting him, but
he takes on Chicago, so that's really iffy. Rock Purdy

(05:56):
takes on Miami, who's conceived the fewest points to quarterbacks
so far this season. Again, solid play, but can you
feel good about starting him this week? And then if
you can't get any of those guys, then I start
thinking about the Drake Mays. And before I even talk
about a Drake mayor a Cooper Rush for me, Aaron
Rodgers is a guy that I feel okay about. He's
finally broken out the last couple of weeks, and I
break outs not really the word for Aaron Rodgers, but

(06:17):
for this season, certainly the last couple of weeks have
been his best. And he takes on the Rams, so
we're top ten in points conceded against quarterbacks. So before
I think about any of these other guys like your mays,
like your rushes. For me, it's Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I'm one of the guys. One of the things
I really like about the site that we is that
we in by the way, just a plug. We have
the slot versus wide, but we also have a lot
of fun split tools home versus road, win versus loss.
And I've always liked to look at especially this time
of year, because there are guys like Jared Goff, by
the way, who on the road in Chicago is not

(06:52):
the same guy. And that's not just golf. It's a
lot of people playing in Chicago, and especially Chicago in December.
That's definitely not that I personally want to take. But
there's other guys where like Matthew Stafford and Baker Mayfield.
When you go to their home road splits, there really
isn't much of a difference. But the question is do
we feel really comfortable about Matthew Stafford, for example, traveling

(07:14):
across country for a one o'clock game on the East Coast. Now,
I know the Jets have been a little bit up
and down from the standpoint of playing good defense, but
you know, I last year he did this against the Giants.
He played against the Giants on the road, he threw
for three hundred yards, only one touchdown, two interceptions, and
he was kind of met. But then just a month
ago he had a monster game against the Patriots. Kind

(07:37):
of the same situation. Now, granted it's later in the year,
whether it might be a little bit colder, But I
guess my question is, like Derek, when you're kind of
navigating some of this stuff, is there quarterbacks maybe dome
quarterbacks like Golf and Stafford where now they're going to
be outdoors in December? Are you kind of hands off
those situations not worth the risk? Or does the matchups

(08:00):
don't really matter for you?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Generally, I'm probably gonna default to the matchups more than not.
But yeah, for someone like Golf. You mentioned Golf, you
know he's been just fantastic in the fantasy this year.
But yeah, going to Chicago, that's gonna be a tough one.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
You had mentioned Stafford going east. You know another quarterback
that is coming east is I mean it's not outdoor quarterback,
but Kyler Murray. Kyler Murley kind of fits that mold
to me as well. I mean, does where does he
fit in. Does someone like Aaron Rodgers for instance, or
or you know the other quarterbacks we were talking about.

(08:42):
So yeah, it's it's it's tough. You know, you ideally
that like you said, there's games, you know, Saints going
to Green Bay, or the Ducks going to the Cowboys.
You know, even the forty nine Ers going to Miami.
I mean those those games you want to take advantage
of because those would be potential shootouts. But you know,

(09:03):
someone like Stafford going to the Jets, that's that's a
tough call. I would, I would.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Haunting my dreams right now. Yeah I have him. I'm
just like, I don't know, man, Like I can really
see it going two ways. I could see Aaron Rodgers
like that just brought up Aaron Rodgers like he's starting
a five. He started to get his stuff together. And
if they're gonna put up points. By the way, this
is an old school rivalry from their their Lions Packers' days,
and they they have like a friendly rivalry. I can't

(09:31):
imagine Aaron Rodgers going bananas against the Rams. But like
the Rams front is not the same as what Aaron
Rodgers just faced, Like I'm sorry, but like he faced
like the Jags, and you're like, Okay, I know he
had a good game against Miami, but like it's not
like he threw for three multiple touchdowns. I think he
only threw for I don't think he threw for any

(09:52):
touchdowns in that game, just threw for three hundred yards.
But he played the Jags, right, So, like we have
to remember the Jags are the best matchup for quarterbacks.
Now now he's facing the Rams. I know it's still
a top ten matchup, but the Rams offensive front, I mean,
their defensive line is like legit, and like that's the
difference between the Jags, And like the biggest problem with
Rogers hasn't been his weapons around him, it's been the line.

(10:14):
So it's like, can they muck up that game a
little bit? And now you have Stafford on the road,
you know, maybe not as high scoring as we thought.
I do, I do have one. You know, the Drake
May thing is extremely interesting because Buffalo might be twenty degrees,
the weather's forecast is like high teens, low twenties. That

(10:34):
could be a huge factor there. But the other factor
that the Drake May here though, is garbage time, because
like Buffalo could really beat them up, But like Drake
May has kind of shown that, like little garbage time
is not a bad thing that he can just rack
up stats. Like Ben is like, is there a scenario
where does that factor into Like hey, you know what,
Like I think that Buffalo, by the way, who just

(10:55):
got smoked by Stafford smoked by Golf, They hadn't really
been that good outside of that party game, you know.
Is there any kind of validity to that mindset where
May can just rack up those stats because Buffalo is
at home this week?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, Drake May kind of reminds me of like Blake
Bortles from like six or seven years ago. He's using
his legs, he's throwing random touchdown. There's always in the
fourth quarter of the problem with someone like a Drake
May in that situation. I mean, how bad does the
score have to be before they just take all the
starters off? Like that's really the risk you have. Because

(11:33):
May so young, there's less risk of that than there
are in other situations, and that's why you're not as
worried about it in this case. But I mean it
does get to the point where there's kind of like
a very clear window where they still need to be
within a certain amount of scores before they just bench
everyone and all of a sudden, you're getting no starts
at all. So I don't think about that too much,
but certainly against someone like a Buffalo, I mean, I

(11:55):
don't know. I just I don't. I can't start May
this week. I just can't do it. There's so many
other options. I can't imagine the league where you can't
access someone like an Aaron Rodgers or a Cooper Rush
and therefore your first Like, I would rather those other
guys at least they're at home in better match ups.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Talk about you about Cooper Rush.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I mean, realistically, we've seen he's being solid when he's
been at home. He takes on Tampa, who can see
a lot of points against quarterbacks, like the second most
points in the league against quarterbacks. Rush is at least
moving the ball and passing it. I mean, he's he's
averaging two touchdowns a game across the last four weeks.
He's not passing for a lot of yards, but at
least he's getting those touchdowns. Gives him a little bit

(12:38):
of a flaw. They've all been really good match ups,
but this is a good matchup as well. He's just
he's a solid play. He's going to give you fifteen
to twenty points if you're the favorite, but you're struggling
at quarterback. That's who you want. If you want upside,
you don't go with any of these guys. None of
these guys have any upside at all.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I guess Derek to kind of wrap up the discussion here,
like game Like listen, I feel confident that Baker's gonna
be do his thing. By the way, I love that
Jalen McMillan player that will probably talk about later has
emerged in that offense. Chris, I mean Mike Evans by
the way, nothing better than a Mike Evans incentive to
get to a thousand yards every week, because like they're

(13:17):
just balling out right now. And so like, I feel
confident that Baker, with no Trayvon Diggs, some injuries to
that Cowboys linebacker Court two, that Baker's gonna do his thing.
So does that give Cooper Rush maybe more of an
appeal because you know they're gonna have to put up
points and by the way, Tampa, they're not gonna be
able just to run the ball down Tampa's throat, Like

(13:38):
that's not how you beat Tampa. So is there any
validity maybe to Cooper Rush being an ideal streamer this week?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I think there is actually, you know, for many
of the reasons Ben just explained. You know, he's looked
more I've watched the last few weeks, and you know,
when he first came in, I mean that first game,
he just looked out of swords. But he's looked more
and more comfortable. You know, Ceedee Lamb. He and Ceedee
Lamb are starting to gell a little bit better. Like

(14:05):
you said, He's not throwing for a lot of yards,
but he is thrown for touchdowns, like Ben said, and
that's that's a game you want to have a piece of. So,
you know, would I consider starting someone like Cooper Rush
over Matthew Stafford like we talked about, I would, you know,
Drake May. I like Drake May, you know, infinitely better.
But yes, I think this would be the week that

(14:25):
you would, you know, if you're going to take a chance,
you would take a chance on someone like Cooper Rush
over someone like Drake May or Matthew Stafford or even
maybe even Kyler Murray you know someone like that as well.
So yeah, definitely that matchup looks like one that you
should exploit, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I honestly, listen, when I first was going through this process,
there's three guys that were in my league. I had
Justin Herbert. Honestly, short week, he just hasn't looked right.
And honestly, I'm kind of just trying to stay away
from that Thursday night game. From a Justin Herbert standpoint,
it just doesn't really seem like, by the way, Justin
Herbert is like two different players. First half, Justin Herbert

(15:04):
is like prime MVP, like Aaron Rodgers. Second half, Justin
Herbert all of a sudden turns into a pumpkin. I
don't understand it, but like he gets all last week
he had seventeen Fantasy points and he finished with seventeen
Fantasy points at the second half. It's anyway. But my
point is, like, no one I'm looking at through this
situation was Cooper Rush in my opinion, just seems very

(15:24):
safe right now, Like you're probably gonna get to twenty
five and two from him and then But the question is, like,
if you're a sixth seed, for example, and you're a
heavy underdog, Let's say you're facing the one seed this week.
Does that change your mindset been a little bit where yeah,
I might need that upside play and maybe Cooper Rush
doesn't offer that, so maybe I do pivot to Drake May.

(15:44):
Is there like a scenario where that would factor into
your thought process here?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
One hundred percent Yes, though I don't think that Drake
May has that much more upside, Like he's against Buffalo.
Buffalo's got a really good pastayfense, Like they've conceded like
bottom ten points against quarterbacks this season. It's just not
the direction I'd going Like if I if I need upside,
I'd go for a Matthew Stafford, I'd go for a

(16:09):
Caleb Williams. That could be, it could be possibility. He
scores a lot of points against Detroit, who do concede
on occasion, but they just score so many points that
they are always winning. Like that's the sort of situation
you go to. Heck, if you want upside, go Aidan O'Connell.
I mean he's taking on the Jags. He put three
forty yards on case a couple of weeks ago. He's
going to be starting this week like upside, I don't know. Look,

(16:33):
we'll come back next week and I'll mention Aidan O'Connell,
you go o quarterback, Like there is a ceiling there
that's way higher than all these other guys in Aidan O'Connell.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, I just think that the Drake May. If you
watch the Bills recently, it might be a little bit
to do with the fact that, like they're on the
road against the Rams and the Lions, but those offenses
just completely smoked them. And then outside of that, I mean,
Buffalo quietly has creeped up in their top ten yards
passing yards and also top ten and passing touchdowns this

(17:08):
season because the last few weeks have been completely lopsided.
Even Mahomes three touchdown passes Joe Flacco two seventy two
and two. So it's kind of interesting where you know
something about the Bills offenses rolling, I do think you know,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
When was the last time Drake May had a top
five fantasy finish? Ever, It's never happened. Ever, He's never
had a top five fantasy finish. He's only got one
top nine fantasy finish. Like he has no upside. There's
just no upside with Drake May. He does not finish
as a top five quarterback. Other guys do. Drake May doesn't.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
All right, listen and I get it, man, Yo, I'm
just trying to spit ball a little bit here, all right.
I'm just I'm in the moment right now where like
I was thinking, because I'm on the lowest seed, I
made the playoffs, I'm facing the seed in my league
now this week, and I'm like, ah, like Cooper Rush,
by the way, was my first thought like this week,
like cause I'm like, I know he's at home, by

(18:09):
the way, and I love the setup where you kind
of feel like you're gonna and by the six points
for passing touchdown league, you know you're probably gonna get
a two touchdowns. You I know you're gonna get probably
like two twenty five passing yards. It's very safe. But
I'm like thinking to myself, like, there's a scenario where
Tampa Bay's rolling and by the way, because Mike Evans
has his incentives to make a thousand yards receiving, you know,

(18:30):
they could throw a little bit, they can get that
ball roll. I just there is a little bit more
where Cooper Rush. There's a weird scenario where Cooper Rush,
like last week he threw for three touchdowns, which is awesome,
but I mean that's kind of lucky because WECo daud
will dominate it. But he had zero touchdowns, so little
Fukie been. Anyway, let's move on to tight end streamers.
I'm gonna give it to you. Let's talk about this
one first. To here, Derek, what are your thoughts about your

(18:51):
ideal tight end streamer this week? We had some guys
kind of emerged last week, like a Breton Strange player.
Is there? Is he kind of a guy where you're
gonna kind of chase the points? Or is there another
name that really comes to mind?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, Breton Strange is actually one that I've been keeping
an eye on. I picked him up before last week's game,
you know when when Ingram went out and I didn't
although I didn't play them, but yeah, that's uh, that's
a that's a typical tight end streamer at this point
of the year. Who could you know, really turn into
a really fantasy asset To me, I think the streamer

(19:26):
line is someone like John new Smith. You know, he's
not he's not your ideal every week starter at tight end,
but you know, with the home matchup, let's see where
was it or the Dolphins home matchup. I know San Francisco, Yeah,
coming to town. Uh, that's although those linebackers in San Francisco,

(19:51):
they're getting healthy. But that would be one I think
it would be worth streamer consideration. Someone like John new Smith.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, John new is in the top an ownership or
he's been completely dominating. But would you start John U
over your typical quote unquote studs. Let's say, for example,
let's find a guy that has a tougher matchup.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well, Sam Laporta is a good example. You know, we
go in Chicago. We already talked about Jared Goff. You
know the kind of the uh the stigma that he
has out outdoors. You know, do you play you go
with someone like Laporta over John new Smith. I think
that's that's a good that's a that's a tough call.

(20:36):
I think I would lean John new Smith.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Uh yeah, all right, I would say because the one
thing I will say is the home road split to
with probably my tiebreaker there because in my mind, say,
John's earned tight end one every single week consideration, and honestly,
Sam Laporta hasn't. Really I think the problem is the name.
If you just amount and just look at how they've played.

(21:01):
You're like, it's John at home even against the forty
nine ers. So but Ben, I know that's a really
tough match. I mean, honestly, San Francisco's no joke gets tatate,
so that is a tough recall. But Ben, kind of
what you thought about the taded situation is you're kind
of a deeper name other than Breton Strange. That kind
of stands out. Are you feeding Bretton Strange? What your
thoughts year about tat ed streamers?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I mean, firstly, there's only three guys I would start
ahead of Janu Smith, and that's Brock Bower, Is, Trey
McBride and George Kittle. Other than that, Janue Smith's like
a number four, number five for me this week. You
absolutely must start him. I think it's interesting kind of
him versus t J Hockinson. But none of those guys
are particularly streamers anyway. I think that streaming options I
think you have. I think someone like a Tucker Craft

(21:41):
is someone who's still available in a surprising amount of leagues,
and I don't really understand why he's been top ten
on the season. He's a little bit boom bust. He
gets New Orleans. They will they will score some points there.
I think he's a viable option. I love Breton Strange
this week. I think he's a really good option. If
you want to go a little bit deeper, for example,
you can go for someone like a Stone Smart. There's

(22:03):
a little bit of risk there, but certainly we've seen
that he's someone that they're willing to use and he
has at least the possibility of getting some big plays.
So if you're desperate for someone, you can go that way.
But my preference would be someone like a Stranger, Pat Frye,
Move a Hunter, Henry, all of those guys, if they're
available in your leagues, they're viable streaming options.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So I will say this, Hayden Hearst was activated and
could play, and that could throw a ranch in the
Stone Smart situation. I don't really know how they feel
about Hayden Hurst at this point. He was supposed to
be the starter and that Will Dissey kind of took
over and then he got hurt. But that's something that
could be something to watch if he's active. I gotta

(22:43):
ask Tucker Craft or Breton Strange, Derek, I go to
you first.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'm going with Craft at home. He in love are connecting.
I'm gonna go with Tucker Craft.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I also have Craft, but it is very close for me,
I do the Raiders are a really good matchup for
tight ends, and I wouldn't surprise me in a couple
of days time I feel differently, But I mean the
Raiders can see the fourth most points to tight end
so far this season, the Saints less, so it more
goes to the wide receivers. But Kraft kind of plays

(23:19):
a bit like a wide receiver enough that you don't
feel too bad about that. So for me, they're really really,
really close. I think in a PPR i'd go with Strange.
Maybe in a half PPR i'd go with Craft.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Great, we'll have to revisit this on Friday, just like yeah,
I got both. I uh yeah. That just the problem
with the Packers don't throw as much as you think.
And trust me, someone who's had Craft, he's very touched now.
I mean every tight end is touchdown dependent. But like
same thing with Pat friar Muth, Like all these guys

(23:51):
seem to get like three catches forty something yards and
you're just banking on them getting into the end zone.
I understand like the Breton Strange. I know that Mac
Jones threw the ball a bunch last week. I think
it was like forty six pass attempts. But it's very
rare that you see a tight end can get twelve targets,
and to me, like double digit targets is no joke.

(24:13):
And by the way, Mac Jones has really hyper focused
on the tight end. It was Evan Ingram before them.
If you look at the game logs, the tight ends
are getting a lot of looks through Mac Jones playing quarterback.
And by the way, even last year, we saw it
last year with this offense. You know, having Ingram was
a stud. So I went, I'm with Strange right now.
But obviously I value the team's opinion, so I'll be

(24:34):
flip flopping all week, and then when I'd make the
wrong decision, I'll have a mental breakdown. So I'm excited
about that.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know. And one thing you know we're seeing too
with the tight end position this week especially is the
quarterback injuries and or the quarterback changes. You know, tight
ends like Juwan Johnson, Noah Fan, David Njoku, you know
those are I mean, well, Ninjoku would be an every
week starter. Uh most likely uh with with Jamison Uh

(25:05):
at quarterback. But now, I mean he is trending to
come back, I see, but he's probably not. Now He's
gonna be a tough play, you know. Same with Kyle Pitts.
I mean, he's been a tough play anyway, but you
know that even just the situation there in Atlanta just
makes him almost a non play as well. So this

(25:26):
week's actually gonna be tough for for tight ends, I
think because there's so many question marks out there, not
even necessarily at the tight end position, but at the
quarterback position that's gonna affect tight ends.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's gonna be really tough to trust Browns this week.
Someone will I mean, listen, Najoku. It's a smash matchup
against Cincinnati, it really is. But like his injury on
top of the quarterback change. To be honest with you,
I don't know if I trust it. You know, it's
gonna be tough to you know, it's gonna be tough
to start him knowing he's limited with this by the way,

(25:58):
and the and the passing off loses all of its
volume when you don't have Jamis or Joe Flacco in there,
and now you're kind of going with this guy who's
going to be more mobile, more conservative. So yeah, that's
a tough call, but I agree. I think for me,
when it comes down to it is like with Breton Strange,
like I'll feel a lot better about starting game if
eighteen O'Connell starts, because the one thing I am worried

(26:20):
about with Desmond Ritter, we saw what can happen that
those games turned very ugly. You know, if you've got
Desmion Ridder on one side and then you know the
ball's not moving on both teams, it gets very defensive.
Mind at least I feel like Aiden O'Connell will start,
you know, could put up points against Jacksonville. I mean
Ben just flat out called him a deep name to
monitor for a streamer. I just feel more confident in

(26:41):
the game flow that you'll get a little bit more
volume with Strange versus like just a girl, because listen,
the Raiders have no problem mucking it up, like they
are the type of team right now. They'll they'll they'll
try to win thirteen to ten. But you're hoping maybe
a little bit more of what we saw in the
Kansas City game where Aidan O'Connell showed a little bit
and there's just more upside there, so I agree. I

(27:04):
think Brenton Strange might be my favorite play this week,
but Tucker Craft, like, the one thing that worries me
is New Orleans decking could just be a disaster. I mean,
like they're on the road in Green Bay one defense.
It could just be like it was a few weeks ago.
Who did they face the Packers and they dominated? Was
I think it was San Francisco, ironically enough, where they
completely blew the doors off him in Lambeau and no

(27:25):
one really did anything that week because it was not needed.
But anyway, all right, let's shoot out to defensive streamers. Now.
Is there an ideal defensive streamer that you're thinking about here, Derek.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, ironically you just mentioned them. It's the Green Bed Packers,
believe it or not. In my league, they were still
on the waiver wire, probably because of the uh the
game just a couple of weeks ago against Detroit, which
was a shootout. You know, people moved away from Green Bay,
but they were on our waiver wire and we picked
them up overnight to be our streaming defense this week.

(27:58):
And what I saw was their ownership was, I mean,
was less than fifty percent at least, you know what
they saw. So yeah, supposed Rattler coming in at quarterback,
Kamara probably not going to play. You know, we saw
Green Bay go to Seattle last week and limit the
Seahawks to two hundred and fifty total yards. So welcoming

(28:19):
a really dejected New Orleans team in Lambeau this weekend,
That's that's going to be a smash defensive play.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
What are your thoughts too, Ben? My favorites, I got
two of them. Firstly, Cincinnati Bengals taking on taking on
the Browns. No Jamis now, but really hard to see
the brown scoring many points with DTR no Nick Chubb
there either, So I feel like that's an opportunity for them.
They've been pretty solid with their although I think potentially

(28:49):
Sam Hubbard maybe out. Not sure about that, but there
is talk that maybe Sam Hubbard's out. But my favorite
probably is his A team I never thought I'd talked
about the dst of like within the last three years,
the Atlanta Falcons. They've got thirteen sacks, two interceptions, two
fumble recoveries the last three weeks. They are coming out
of their bye week, They've all of a sudden been incredible.

(29:10):
It's not like they're playing terrible teams like they've played
the Chargers and the Vikings. They're both very solid teams,
but they're past Russell all of a sudden, he's getting
it done. And they take on the Giants with Drew Lock.
Drew Lock looked awful last time he started. I can
imagine the Falcons having another very solid game this week.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, go ahead, Derek.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I was gonna say, ironically, I think you know a
defense that would I would never consider coming in my
mouth would be the Cincinnati Bengals. We could discussed before.
But yeah, no, those are good polls. Yeah, definitely, that's
that's really you're looking at those matchups and you know
the quarterback changes and other injuries and boy put you know,

(29:51):
trusting the Cincinnati Bengals as you as your semi final
defense that takes some stones.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, I would say another twelve the lost three wags, so.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, you know what it's there they. I think lou
Ambrillo is getting a bad rat like this year. Prior
to this year, the Bengals, he was like a head
coaching candidate, like he was a great defensive mind, and
you know, I know the personnel's changed a lot for them,
but they're figuring it out. But in the grand scheme
of things, it's all about matchups. And like I don't
know the DTR thing, like he's not he hasn't necessarily

(30:27):
shown anything. It makes sense that they're trying to see
what the kid has. I mean, it's only his he's
only still very young. But like, yeah, the other one
that I kind of interested in a little bit is
the Raiders. Uh, if you're looking to go even deeper.
Just I know Max Max Crosby has been out is
out now, but like they're just the way they want
to play the game is they want to keep it real,

(30:48):
low scoring and they want to muck things up. And
that's how it's been with the Raiders and now they
get the Jags. So by the way, mac Jones has
looked okay, but like he turns the ball over, he
takes sex, And to be honest with you, I think
watching last week can kind of see similar potential kind
of game flow a little bit where you know, the
versity Atlanta Falcons. So the Raiders were okay, obviously, I
think Atlanta is probably more of my prior, Green Bay's

(31:10):
number one than Atlanta for me before I get into
these other names. But honestly, if you missed out on
those those names, I do think Cincinnati and I think
the Raiders is a deeper name could potentially get you
enough points to get you into the next round of
the Fantasy playoffs. All right, not so fun, folks, wrap
this puppy up with some fun sleeper flex plays, and

(31:31):
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(32:11):
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Those are fun ways to kind of figure out your
last flex by every single week. Now, let's get to
your your fun sleeper flex plays. Give me what you got, Derek,

(32:32):
who's kind of the guy you're you're gonna plan a
flag on this week?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, the guy that I really want to plan a
flag on it, I believe is someone who you're gonna
mention later. So I'm gonna divert from that. I'm gonna
give you that platform later and then I'm gonna go
to Ironically, I'm gonna go to the Tennessee Titans and
the Indie Colts Indianapolis Colts game and Tajy Spears is

(32:59):
a flex play that we need to consider and the
reason is. I mean, yes, he is, he's back, he's healthy,
but it's more actually Pollard situation. I think that Spears
makes for an interesting play. You know, I was reading
an article the other day, and you know, if you're
into conspiracy theories, you're you're probably right along with me.

(33:22):
But we've seen this before. He's got performance bonuses coming
up in his his contract, about a million dollars worth.
He's about one hundred and fifty yards and he's two
touchdowns away from about a million dollars in performance bonuses.
And what we saw last week in the game, and

(33:43):
they pull it up just so I'm make sure I'm
speaking correctly, he really didn't get a lot of run.
He got to a twenty nine snap seventeen for forty
five yards rushing.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
He only had seventeen carries, whereas you know Tase Spears,
he did had the long run. Don't get me wrong,
but you know he is more involved in the passing game.
Eighty seven yards receiving in a touchdown in the passing
game plus the rushing touchdown. So I could see a
scenario where someone like Tajy Spears actually gets a little

(34:17):
bit more run or at least the more important ball
carries and Pollard kind of takes a back seat. So
if you're into conspiracy theories, maybe you're with me. If
you're just you know, if you know Pollard is hurt
as well, so that plays into it.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, you know, but he carries a lot of carrier.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
It is.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
He is a good number of carries. But you're not
He didn't he didn't do much with it, and no,
you're not wrong. But the other thing I'll say about
that though, is like they didn't have an option when
Spears has been out all year, Like Spears has been
out so much, and they had to put a lot
of workload on Pollard. And to be honest with you,
he's not holding up, like he's banged up. He's not
practicing Wednesdays and Thursdays. And I think there by the way,

(35:01):
the Titans have nothing to play for. They're at it
and they're starting a backup quarterback. Now, Like, why are
you going to ride Tony Pollard into the ground. He
got twenty eight carries in a game twenty four twenty one.
That makes zero sense. So I think Spears, by the way,
they got to see what Spears can do when he's healthy.
So I do like the call on Spears because it
does make a little sense there that they dial back
Pollard because what's the point of riding him into the

(35:22):
ground because they signed him to a contract.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, you know, the conspiracy aside. Yet, I mean, if
you have that organization and you're smart about it, you
want him to go into the offseason, you know, healthy
or relatively healthy, you know, rather than rehabbing because you know,
like you said, they're not playing for anything this year
other than maybe the you know, a top draft pick.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
But yeah, no, no, no, that's the Giants. That's gonna be
the Giants. Don't no, no, no, no, no no. We're getting
the top pick. Just let it go. Okay, Giants are
going to get the top pick. We're going to pick
a quarterback. We're gonna have great rest of our lives.
We're gonna have a great time. Anyway, bed Bed, talk
to me, man, what do you got for a sleeper
for us?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I mean, firstly, on that ty J. Spears situation, I mean,
they were behind by two scores really early, and we
know that Spears is there passing back and they just
they couldn't run as soon as they ended up a
couple of scores behind. So that's why Spears I think,
got so much action when they're whenever they're chasing, whenever
they're down by a couple of scores. We've seen them
do that. All seasoned. Spears will have a bigger game.
Having said that, he's someone you have to roster because

(36:21):
poul I might not play this week, and if he
doesn't play, all of a sudden, Spears becomes an option
people in that same category. For me, Kendre Miller is
a good option if Alvin Kamara doesn't play. We know
that Miller's getting all the touches now, he doesn't get
the touches when Kamara is playing. All of his touches
last week came in the last quarter when Kamara was down.
So you are going to have that opportunity to start

(36:41):
Miller only if Kamara is out. And likewise, we know
that there's no Nick Chubbs, So I think that means
Jerome Ford becomes an option. He's not a great option.
You don't run very easily on the Bengals, but he's
still as starting NFL running back and in many leagues
that's enough. So I do think Jerome Ford is an option.
He also tends to get used more in the passing game,

(37:03):
and I feel like they're going to be chasing a
lot more. I still think we see some don deforman
early on, so I think he's a viable option. And lastly,
wide receivers, we know that the lines are very generous
to slot receivers and we know they're taking on Keenan Allen.
Keenan Allen had eighty six yards and two touchdowns downs
again Kens him a couple of weeks ago. So Keenan
Allen is my sleep of lex play as a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Kendre Miller, MA, listen, this is going to be a
stone cold take. I don't care. I think he's a
better runner right now than Alvin Kamara, and honestly, like
you watch them, he is special, Like he has got
some serious wiggle to him and you're like, oh wow,
this guy's moving better than Alvin Kamara just on pure
running plays now receiving ability. Obviously, Kamara's elite and by

(37:50):
the way, Kamara's still good. But like I as, by
the way, I have Kamara in my one league that
I'm in the SEMIS, I have Kendre. I want Kamara
to sit because the one thing I don't want is
a limited Kamara, and then you have to start Kamara
and he's splitting the work. And by the way, they're
on the road against Green Bay and you're dealing with
all that hooplah. So I'd rather just sit Kamara. And

(38:12):
by the way, I don't see why they would play
him with the Goroin injury make it worse when they're
out of contention. So I think Kendrick Miller is a
great call. My guy's Jalen McMillan. Me and Ben actually
talked about it last Friday, and he's really it's just
one of those things where Baker Mayfield and that offense
is clicking. The other aspect of though, is I just

(38:33):
feel like when you're watching them play, Mike Evans just
makes everything else work. Like when you have that alpha
number one who's getting all the attention. Now you're having
these other guys on the roster who are basically one
on ones go out and make a play. And you
saw the last two weeks with the healthy Mike Evans
that Jalen McMillan had his best two games of the year.

(38:55):
He's playing essentially the same number he's running the same
number of routes as Mike Evans. Right now, he's got
a great perimeter matchup against the Cowboys who are gonna
be down Trayvon Diggs most likely this week. And by
the way, you know, obviously in the Dome in Dallas,
I think that there's a really good opportunity if you're
really struggling for a flex play that Jalen McMillan has

(39:17):
kind of emerged, mostly because the fact that defenses can't
focus on him. They have Mike Evans, who, by the way,
is trying to go for a thousand yards and they're
gonna be pepper and retardas I expect the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers ironically to throw a bunch because they want to
get Mike Evans points, which is also gonna help Jalen
McMillan in company. So I'm I'm really high at McMillan.
Kendre Miller is another guy like really like. And here's

(39:39):
another deeper name that I think I get your thoughts
on is Alexander Madison. The Jags are a dumpster fire.
They are awful against running backs and listen, there's gonna
be no Zamir White and Sincere McCormick's on IR now too,
and I know a mayor of Doula is the Mere Duels.
They're passing game back, you know, obviously, and the Raiders

(40:01):
will be at home. Hopefully Aidan O'Connell plays. But if
Aidan O'Connell's in, there's a scenario where by the way,
I didn't have a lot of fab I actually just
didn't even bother trying to get forward. I actually just
paid down and got Alexander Madison as a potential backup
for me this week. What's your guys thoughts about Alexander
Madison's potential plug and play flex at home against the

(40:23):
Jacks Go to you, Derekors.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, in an emergency. I see where you're thinking and
your logic is. But you know, I and I watched
a little bit of that game versus the Falcons, and
he just doesn't look well, I say, like the Madison
of old. But you know, the time, the few times
that we've seen him really run well, he just didn't
look right. I mean, he averaged three yards per carry

(40:47):
in his seven rushing attempts last week against the Falcons.
So the matchup is good. They are playing at home
and I do. I do think, you know, Aidan O'Connell
playing or starting makes a difference. You know we've mentioned
did a little bit earlier as well, so it does
make a difference. I do like him a little bit
better if if O'Connell is under center, but I mean

(41:07):
that's gonna be like a break glass and emergency type play.
If if if you if you're in that situation, you
know you play. You know he's going to get some
workload and he has potential. But to me, he just
doesn't look right.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
To be fair, since you're mccorwick had seven carries for
eight yards in that game, so Madison technically better of
them two, So to be fair, the Raiders, I think
the Desmond Ridder situation. By the way Desmond Ridder plays,
don't even bother. I don't care, don't break just don't
even break the glass, like, just don't worry about the
glass breaking. Get that point, Ben, I have a question

(41:44):
you half PPR question Alexander Madison or a Jalen McMillan type,
Who is the kind of guy you're leaning towards there?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Madison's interesting because they are actually favorite the Rioters this
week against the Giants, which seems kind of crazy, but
in that sort of game, you would expect to see
more Madison than a mirror Abdula. Having said that, they
don't always do it that way in Vegas, we've seen
situations where they've been ahead in the game, but they've
still decided they're not happy with what their runners doing
and they've gone across to the other guy. So it

(42:14):
is entirely possible we go into this game expecting Madison
to start. He doesn't play particularly well. He gives you
like thirty yards on the ground with no receptions, and
all of a sudden, a mirror of Duela takes over
the rest of the way, even though they're winning. So
there's a massive amount of risk there with Madison, and
how much upside is there? I mean, realistically, you can
imagine a situation where he gets you sixty and seventy
yards and a touchdown, so you're getting what ten eleven

(42:38):
half PPR points. But with someone like a Jaalam McMillan, realistically,
he only needs to get you four receptions for sixty yards,
and all of a sudden he's nearly there. So I
would prefer to go for McMillan. I think in anything
where you're getting points per reception, you tend to want
to go for the wide receiver anyway, and in that situation,
I definitely would.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, I think, like so, there's not a lot The
tough part about the season with the Raiders is a
like Garner Minshew, you eight and O'Connell. Then they went
Desmond Ritter, and like, I do think there's there's a
little bit when you saw that little bit of a
window for aight and O'Connell. Aight, O'Connell is more willing
to check down to his running backs. There was a
little bit of a bump. I think if you're looking

(43:19):
at kind of like the Pittsburgh game that they had
where Madison found the end zone, had five targets five receptions,
that kind of like makeshift kind of game. Listen, the
Jags are an absolute slam dunk matchup for running backs.
So I do think that if you're just either a favorite,
if An O'Connell plays and am o'connall's tendency to check

(43:39):
down a little bit, I think there's a world where
I'm going to make the wrong decision to start Alexander Madison.
So I'm just saying that that's what I'm thinking's gonna
happen here. But yeah, I think McMillan's probably the guy
where I'll probably just play him. That's that. I think
your thoughts about mcmill which you thought about him this.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Week, I mean, I look, I totally agree like mc
millan is emerging as a viable option. He's kind of
they're going. It was Kate Oden for a while as
a situation where it was like very Kate Odden heavy,
but John McMillan was injured during that time and he
wasn't fully healthy. I think we're now seeing that McMillan
is back and healthy. He suddenly used the clean number

(44:15):
two in this offense. It certainly meant that Kate Oden's
relatively taking a big step back. They're also trying to
get the ball a little bit further downfield. So I
think we McMillan's fine. I'll rank him somewhere between forty
and fifty probably this week, which means you're probably only
starting him if you've really been hit by injuries or
if you're in a really deep league.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, well that's me so I'm excited. Right, let's get
into some questions before he closed out the show. Daniel
joined the show. He just popped in and said, hey, guys,
I'm joining the show. Good evening, by the tip of
the cap, sitting back and join the show. We appreciate
you being I man a lot of fun. Tyler, we
just kind of broke down a little bit of this.
But darts on forward? Is he good because he's a Brown? Basically,

(44:55):
Tyler's letting us know that Brown's are terrible, and you
don't want to start down. Obviously we kind of have.
I think there's Jerome Ford. There's gonna be we kind
of already saw what Jerome Ford. I did want to
pull this up because Ford h DCR, I mean technically
played half the game against the Cincinnati Bengals a few

(45:17):
weeks ago, and I was just curious to see what happened.
I think Nick Chubb played though, so that's not gonna
really help us that much. But it was week seven
that game, and wow, that was they all three quarterbacks played,
which is hilarious. And then the targets really went while
Tillman and Najoku, Yeah, Chubb had five targets. Oh sorry,

(45:39):
three targets. Yeah, all right, Yeah, I don't know. I
just I kind of stayed away from it. I think
I think Ben's idea of the Bengals being a streamer
defense might be more appealing to me. The one thing
I always worry about with mobile quarterbacks Dorian Thompson Robinson
will run the football is they are less likely to
check down. So take that for what it's worth. But

(45:59):
any but have like a hot take on Jerome Ford
really this week, or you're kind of like break glass
start I if you need to.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah, I mean, if you're in a situation where you're
just scrambling for someone to take, you know, fill in
for Kamara and you need to get Miller for Ford
is an option. I mean just workload in snaps. He's
gonna be on the field, He's going to have the
potential for workloads. So I'm, you know, deep league running
back two. Or if you're just out of options for

(46:29):
a flex play, I think he's worthwhile. Ford McMillan, Oh,
it's gonna be McMillan for me. Nice McMillan's is I
had him down here as well. He's my slam dunk
flex Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, all right. I can't wait to watch that. I
can't wait to watch Cooper Rush and Jalen McMillan leave
me to a fantasy titles.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, I mean you should. We should get a monster
game from Evans, and like you said, that's just going
to open it up for McMillan. So I'm really high
on him this week. I think I think there's an
opportunity there that. I mean, he hit thirteen targets and
three touchdowns in the last two games, So even if
we keep up, you know in that area, you're gonna
have a good fantasy day.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
All right, Yeah, I would say from your standpoint, Ben,
I mean, I guess, like, who is your ideal, like
the number one name that comes to your mind where
you're like, you're actually you think they're actually more of
a start than a sleeper. You're like this guy I'm in,
Like just how Derek's displayed McMillan. Who's that one guy
that really you feel confident about this week?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
It's tough, isn't it? I mean for me? For me
I mentioned him earlier, it's Keenan Allen. Like I think,
if you've got Kanan Allen, you have to start Keenan
Allen this week, not just in PPR, but basically an
annual League. I think he's going to be suddenly top thirty,
maybe even top twenty five for me, and that's not
been the case at any other time this season. This
is the week if you've got if you're rostering, Canaan Allen,
this is the week to start it.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, quick thought from Tyler here as well. Watson in
a Reid this week obviously New Orleans interesting and by
the way, the fact that he didn't even put in Dobbs.
Come on, what are we talking about here? Romeo had
two touchdowns last week. Show some love Me and Ben
actually did a show a few weeks ago about playoff preview.
We've both talked about Watson and Romeo Dobbs here. I
think all the toughest part about the Packers, in my opinion,

(48:19):
is that that game I worry about the volume from
Jordan Love. I could see a scenario where he throws
the ball twenty one times and complete sixteen of them
and they get spread around amongst everybody. And by the way,
Josh Shacob's catching four passes, and you know, I just
my opinion is, Spencer Rattler doesn't make me feel like
he's gonna come out swinging here on the road in

(48:40):
Lambeau to push the volume up here. But what's your
kind of thought here, Ben about the Watson overread or
read Packers passing game. I guess as a whole.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
So the return of remeio A. Dobbs absolutely kills Christian
Watson previously Watson. When Dobbs was out, Dontagan Weeks goes
and playing the Z received role by himself, and then
Christian watsonn play the X receiver and obviously reads in
the slot and only plays in eleven personnel. Now the
problem is when Dobbs returns, Dobbs becomes the Z receiver

(49:11):
and all of a sudden, Wicks is splitting the XRA
receiver role with Christian Watson. What happened earlier in the season.
It was their plan from the start of the season.
When all four receivers has been healthy, that's what's happened.
So anytime all four are healthy, all of a sudden,
Watson's only playing sixty to seventy percent snaps, sometimes even less.
Now admittedly, Wicks is usually playing on the running downs

(49:33):
and Watson's playing on the receiving downs, but it's still
enough of a concern that you're suddenly not having Watson
out there on a third of the snaps that you
have to drop him down in your rankings. Now, I
don't like read either. I like neither of these guys.
I think Dobbs is a solid option. I might even
have Dobbs ranked higher of all three, but realistically probably
avoiding all three at the moment.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Seric, any patterns receivers stand out to.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
You, Yeah, if it's going to be any, it's going
to be done. Yeah. I'm the same way, you know,
And we knew this coming into the season, and here
we are, you know, week sixteen, and we're talking about it.
Still you know which receiver you know gets the distribution
of twenty one passes? You know, we don't really know.
I mean, it's just it's hard to pick one over

(50:17):
the other two in any case because there's just so
many variables that play and we just don't know. So
that that's just a situation that I really want to avoid.
But if I do have to pick one, it's going
to be Dobs.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah. The other thing for me is like I would
almost start a guy like McMillan over one of these guys,
be I don't know, Like, I don't know who it's
going to be like it's last week's a really good
example of it just ended up being Romeo Dobs who
caught two touchdowns. He had three catches for forty yards,
that's it, but two of them were touchdowns. Fantasy football

(50:53):
is a fickle beast, you know, like there's nothing by
the way, when we do our analysis, like three for
forties terrible, that's a terrible game, but two of those
are touchdowns. Here, that's an amazing play, and you look
like an idiot for not being high on that guy.
But in reality, like that's super fluky that two of
them were touchdowns. And then you look at the rest
of the guys. Three for fifty six, five for thirty four.

(51:15):
And by the way, this whole entire Packers offense runs
through Josh Jacobs. Like you watch the game, especially early on,
the Packers are running the football down people's throats and
so it takes the air out of the football. So
just these two guys, if I'm gonna be honest with you,
it's gonna probably depend in PPR. I might just take

(51:36):
Reid and call it a day. But if I'm like
the sixth seed and I'm playing the one seed and
I need an upside play. I'll take Watson and take
the shot because I mean, listen, for what it's worth,
twenty one rounds versus twenty five for Dobbs. For Watson
six targets, which was second highest on the team. He
did have fifty six yards receiving, which is solid. Is
a great no. But at seeing time with Watson is

(51:58):
it only takes one long one hit. So I would
say in this format's PPR specific. By the way, the
Saints defense, you can pretty much beat them anywhere. It's
not like it's a slot vers wide. Either one works.
So I think at full PPR, I think Read's gonna
get Pepper with some targets, he's gonna be fine, probably
the safer floor and Watson gives you the more ceiling

(52:20):
and half PPR. That's how I would take this one
there for Tyler, all right, I think that's all we got,
folks pretty much on todays show. I want to appreciate Derek.
And by the way, before we close out the shows,
have a little fun here. Give me your Week sixteen.
Call your shot about a player. Maybe we discussed it
could be a stud, it could be a dud. Just
call your shot. Give me like a shot call here

(52:42):
for you, Derek, Who's one guy, and I'll give you mine.
If you're betting, please just bet on Mike Evans. For
the love of God, I'm telling you it's gonna be
the easiest bet you ever make. He's gonna put up,
by the way, his fantasy score, his receiving yards line, Like,
Mike Evans is my call for the week. Just bet
on him. He's gonna do awesome. He's trying to get

(53:02):
a thousand yards and Baker knows that too. What's your
thoughts THEREK.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Well, I've got two that I'm thinking about. Anthony Richardson.
You know, we haven't talked about him in a long time.
He's kind of quietly, you know, holding his own and
hosting the Titans. I think Anthony Richardson could be a
sneaky quarterback play this week. And I also like Aaron

(53:27):
Jones against the Seahawks, you know, with Minnesota. I mean,
he's coming on at the right time. That would be
another one where I just think that he's probably gonna
you know, seventy yards in a touchdown is probably realistic
for him.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Where would you rank Anthony Richson amongst the Cooper Rush,
Matthew Stafford Drake mays that we discussed.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I would put him above all three of.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Those Jesus Christmas. Then you feel the same way.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yep, Absolutely, you guys suck.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Just when I thought we were good, I was good.
I was gonna play some Cooper Rush. Feel very confident, safe,
go to bed, sleeping very nicely. Now now I anythink
Rich is on my waiver wire. So now I gotta
figure that out. Thank you both.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
You're in a six point passing touchdown league, right correct? Oh,
then i'd probably got Rush.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
See that's what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about,
you know, guy forbid these guys, you know what I mean.
They're just all over the place. I don't even know
why we do the show. It's ridiculous. All right, Ben,
give me your shock call who you got.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Look, this is gonna sound a little bit wide. Travis
etn against the Raiders. He kind of took back over
as the starting role. You never to really know who's
going to be starting against them, but it's going to
be a close enough game that they're going to be
able to keep running the ball. I think Dan probably
skills a touchdown. I think he probably gets a lot
of receptions, especially with mac Joanes. So look, you need

(54:57):
a deep optional. I think he's going to do better
than people like I know that's not much, but you're
expecting him to do nothing. I think you does something.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Love that, by the way, I love that when you
feel like when they give one running back eighteen carries
the for one week and then the next week they
do they complete opposite. It's super fun. I see Denver
Bronco's running backs this year. It's been just super fun.
And by the way, no Jalen Jalen McLoughlin Julia mcloffin
this week, so I'm sure we'll get that one wrong
either way. Quick one, dear, is everybody in on McMillan

(55:28):
Overreid yes or no? Yes? All right, McMillan overread. There
you go. That's all we got today. Folks want to
think both my co hosts today, Derek Favrette and Ben Wise,
when she gave him a follow at Derek underscore Favern
on Twitter at Fantasy First Down and she check out
all their great content on ras Ball and also check
out the site Fantasy First Down for Ben Wise. It
we do appreciate all those contributions here and by the way,

(55:49):
you guys both have articles coming out this week, streamers
and stashes slot versus wide. Derek, you got your week
sixteen kind of primary going on, right? Yes, I'm going
on for me.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
We'll see that. Love end of the week, Love it
all right.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Thank you guys for joining. If you have extra time
on your hands, Manshet, you will go follow fits here
at rasball dot com. Jump over there, check out all
the great tools. Join us on Sunday Live for two
hours before kickoff and go follow me at Bobby Lamarco
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