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May 26, 2025 64 mins
In this video, we analyze the 2025 NFL schedule and its implications for fantasy football, highlighting key matchups and player performances to watch. We also delve into the top NFL prop bets for the upcoming season, offering insights into potential value picks and betting strategies.

Discover how schedule nuances can affect player productivity and team dynamics, and learn which prop bets could offer the best returns based on current odds and projections.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
What's going on? Everybody. Welcome back to face Off Sports Network,
and we went back here with the ff face Off
Me and Ernie Ryan. I'm Ryan, I'm with Ernie here.
We're gonna be looking at the NFL schedule and talking
about some of our favorite player prop bets and schedule props.
We started a little bit later because him and I
were kind of debating of what the best things were
to talk about here and Ernie looking at it man like,

(00:35):
it's been a little bit over week. Yes, we're coming
in a little bit later. You know, it's Memorial Day.
Happy Memorial Day to everyone out there. But I figure,
you know, why not talk some prop bets that are
constantly changing and trying to get those bets out there?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, man, no, absolutely So. I got some picks. You
want me to dive right in.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Go for it because we can go ahead and knock
it out right now if you like.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, absolutely so, guys. So what we did was we
put together some of our faith picks, just you know,
early look ahead picks. So what I did was I
came up with five picks. They kind of vary, so
let me just jump right into it. The first pick
I have is and these are all on DK. By
the way, me and Ryan used DK, so just so
when you're looking for it, you can find it ease. Yer.

(01:16):
So we have number one. I got New England Patriots
to make the playoffs plus one twenty. I'm a big
Patriots fan this year. I love Mike Vrabel. I love
me some Drake may Ray Boll came right in there
day one. It did exactly what I thought he was
gonna do. He built the trenches. You know, two of
his picks in the first three rounds went to the trenches.
He drafted Travon Henderson, so you know the culture is

(01:40):
changing there. They're gonna come out, They're gonna play some
smash mouth football. I do see the Dolphins regressing. I'm
not scared of the Jets. I think the Patriots are
gonna surprise people this year. Don't be surprised when they
sneak into the playoffs. My second pick is again I'm
a Giants fan, so this is why I have so
much conviction in this pick. Giants under five and a

(02:00):
half wins and that is minus three point thirty on DraftKings.
The Patriots to make the playoffs plus one twenty. If
I didn't say that. I'm sorry, but yeah, back to
the Giants, so I had them under five and a
half wins. There's a lot of steam on the Giants
right now. I don't know why I did like their
first round picks. I like Scattibo. The reality is is

(02:21):
that this is still a horrible roster. I don't think
Russell Wilson is that much of an upgrade to Daniel Jones.
There are still a ton of holes. Their offensive line
really relies on Andrew Thomas being healthy, which we we
don't know yet. His foot man, like, you know, dude,
when he's playing, he's a top five left tackle in
the league. So, like we know how valuable Andrew Thomas is.

(02:42):
Like he's pretty much the reason why they made the
playoffs in twenty twenty two, right, but if he goes down,
like if his foot like you know, uh sputters out again,
then Giants are going to be in some trouble. And
they also play in the best division in football. They're
also the NFC, Like their schedule is crazy. They play
the AFC West, So I think they are an easy
five and a half wins. I actually saw eighty percent

(03:04):
of the money is on the over, I would stay away.
I'm gonna take the five and a half under. I
think they'll be picking their quarter up. The new regime
will be picking their quarterback of the future next year
because they have no obligation to Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And then wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait do you mean they have no obligations
to Jackson Dart. They they trade it up back into
the first round to get Jackson Dart. So why would
why would why would they draft another quarterback next year
like that? To me, it doesn't make sense. Finally, we
have a debate going on here. You know, last time
you and I did a show together, Yeah, you're too much,
and it pissed me. On this time, I'm pissed because

(03:38):
I like Jackson Dart and I think they're actually gonna
keep them. Like, I like, sure, explain yourself why we're
creating up didn't mean anything this year. Next year they're
drafting another quarterback.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Sure, dud, dude, that's a great question. I'm happy you
brought it up. So the reason why, because I agree
with you. I like Jackson Dart. I thought there was
a bunch of teams that, dude like, really good quarter
really good advanced analytics, really good underlying numbers, like he
performed in the SEC he beat Organ. There's a lot
to like about Jackson Dart. I do think he's undervalued.

(04:11):
What I meant by that is the Giants I think
are gonna be picking top three next year. I truly,
I truly believe that. I think they're that bad. So
unless somehow, some way, Dable and Shane don't get fired,
if they're picking top three again, I think the new
regime of one thousand percent take a quarterback. Here's why,

(04:33):
the new regime doesn't have any obligation or ties to
Jackson Dart. So like, yeah, I think at the end
of the year you might see some Jackson Dart. He
might flash, but the new GM he's gonna want his
guy right, And it would be different if it was
a weak quarterback class, then I would say, okay, Like
you know, even the new regime, they'll probably rally around

(04:54):
Jackson Dart unless Jackson Dart plays out of his mind
on a bad team. I I can't see a new
GM and a new head coach coming into New York
to clean the mess that's been there for years and saying, hey, guys,
we're gonna pass on one of these three blue chip
quarterbacks that we're running back. We're gonna we're gonna take
the chance on Jackson Dark. If it doesn't work, we'll

(05:14):
draft a quarterback next year in an inferior draft class.
So I think the newer GM will come in and
just based off of how everything all the dominoes are
gonna fall, I think they'll be in a top three position.
I think the three quarterbacks are that good. I think
they will be taking them.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Ernie, I think you're high. I think you're higher than
a freaking CAI right now. I don't believe you, dude,
to mean that's bullshit, because, like, yeah, you can say
that there's three blue chip quarterbacks come out this next season,
but there's no guarantee that those quarterbacks are coming out.
There's no guarantee that a quarterback that none of us
are talking about is coming out that could be top

(05:52):
three even if the if the Giants do get a
top three pick, they don't have that many picks for
their next season. When they trade it up, they trade
their thirty fourth pick and nine their nine to ninth pick,
along with their twenty twenty six. Theyir round pick to
the Houston Texas to move up to the twenty fifth pick.
So if they get a top five pick, don't think
it'd be smarter to kind of bolster offensive lineman who's

(06:14):
gonna possibly be coming out that could be a nice
blue chip piece, you know, something that's more better to
put around Jackson start to help make him more successful.
I think that would be more smart than trying to
draft another quarterback. Yes, I understand that dable number coaching
for their for their jobs, but this is the move
that they're trying to do, Like if Dart becomes something

(06:35):
in it or you know, shows that they can be
somewhat compatible. Even if they get six wins already know
with their win totals over and a half, oh like
five and a half over. Yeah, so like say they
get six, it's better than what they did last season.
They can still have a top ten pick. Davie can
somehow bullshit his way into trying to say like, hey,
you know I got Dark you know he's he's growing. Yeah,

(06:58):
we have Russell Wilson blah blah blah, Jameis Winston, but
you know we could we could actually they have a
nice QB room right now I think this is actually
good for Dart. I think it benefits start and I
think even if they do somehow, tank Day will somehow
will miraculously keep his shob because who knows what other
coach is coming out next year. Sure they put it

(07:18):
another offensive lineman, because like you said, yes, Andrew Twas
when he went down, that definitely showed up, like even
like Tyrone, Tracy's stats went down quite a bit. But
I think the whole Jackson Dart thing will continue on.
I think he's actually going to be a better quarterback
than most think. And that's just my own personal perception.
If the Giants do anything, if they're going offensive lineman

(07:38):
next year.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I agree with you. No, I agree with that, but
there's some variables into that because you're saying, well, if
they're picking in the top ten, that's different than picking
in the top three. Right, And then it's it really
comes down to if the Giants finished with three wins,
do you think Dable and Shave will keep their jobs?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Possibly? I mean, if Dabell can we talk his way
into Samy, he's already stayed long enough, Well.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
They stay, then yeah, they're gonna If if they somehow,
I don't agree with you there, Like, I just don't
see how a GM that won the Eagles a Super
Bowl can't draft the offensive lineman in four years rolls
out another sub five win season. I again, but it's
the Giants, so nothing, you know, surprising me anymore. I

(08:22):
can't see how an owner keeps both of them. But
if they do right, and let's say you're right and
Dabel sweet talks his way into keeping the job, then
you're one hundred percent right they're gonna keep their guy
because that was this whole That's why they drafted Dark
to buy them another year, you know what I mean? Yeah,
so it could go either way. My again, I'm just
forecasting and his complete speculation. I don't think they're gonna

(08:46):
be good, and just based off of where the Giants
are at what Joe Shane has done in the last
two seasons. If they roll out a sub four win
team and they have a top three pick, I can't
imagine them being I don't care how much they like
them like that is just I don't think I've ever
seen that before in the NFL. So we'll see. But yeah,

(09:08):
it really all depends on if they what what their
final record is because it's like, dude, if you're right
where they get six seven wins. Dark comes in at
the end and he's the quarterback me and you think
he is, he's staying and they're gonna take an offensive
lineman and they're gonna try to build.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you, thank you. Finally, finally you can go back
on my side. That's what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But no, no, that was that was good man. And
then my last three picks. So I was gonna give
you two. I was gonna give you guys two Rookie
of the Year players, but there's two offensive players I love,
so I'm gonna give you three. So I got two
offensive guys and one defensive guy. First guy is Omarion
Hampton to win Offensive Rookie of the Year plus one thousand.

(09:53):
So the reason why I have so much conviction and
this pick is because I love Ashton Gent. I really do.
I am a big Ashton Gent fan. When you look
at where these players went right, the Chargers I think
are one of the teams that are going to, you know,
take another step this year. I think Harbor is an

(10:14):
amazing coach.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I love the culture he brings, I love the you know,
you could tell his guys love him. But he brings
smash mouth football bro, Like they are going to pound
the ball. That's why they signed Naji. There's a one year,
ten million dollar contract before the draft, and they even
drafted Hampton because they want to have assurance policy in

(10:35):
place that they could run the ball thirty times a
game no matter who's there, and they know they can't
do that with Dobbins and Edwards, and that was impressive.
Well the Chargers did last year with those two guys.
So when it comes down to it, I like Pete Carroll,
I really the whole AFC west Man like they really
might be the best division in football because I like

(10:58):
all four teams, even the worst one Raiders, Like, dude,
you love the direction they're in. Right. Will they have
a wins this year? I don't know, but I know
they're gonna be scrappy. They're headed in the right direction.
Pete Carroll's gonna get them right, and they had a
good draft. The reality is they're still work in progress.
So this isn't like you know, throwing shade at you know,
genty or any of them. It's just that the offensive

(11:19):
line is still a work in progress. So I think
he's gonna be a volume king. Like he's gonna get
a lot of volume. He should be good. I think
the Chargers, you have a top five offensive line in
the NFL, You arguably have the best tackle tandem in
the NFL, and you have a coach that wants to
pound the ball, and he just spent a first round
pick on a running back that's basically Nick Chubb two
point zero. So I think Hampton's in a spot to

(11:41):
take off if he gets that full workload or it's
like kind of like, you know, a fifty to fifty
split in his his first four weeks and then Hampton
just because we know who nause is, Nase's a I
like Najie Harris, but like he's he's a he's a
He's a good player to have on your team. He's
a good this year.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He's the biggest avoid this year right now.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
A lot of people like me and Steve talk about
this a lot, and I get the Nausey logic where
it's like he might come in and be the guy
to start, and I get that. I just don't think
it's I think, if anything, it's a fifty to fifty
split or you know, more Hampton's job than Nagy, and
I just think over time, like Hampton has the pedigree,

(12:19):
Hampton has the rats score, He's gonna run away with
that job, like the Chargers are gonna have a lot
of running lanes this year. So there's a lot to
like on Hampton. I like the odds. I think Genti's
is way higher, so I think the value here is
really good. My second pick, this is on the defensive
side of the ball. I'm gonna go with Mike Green
Defensive Rookie of the Year. Now, Mike Green is an

(12:42):
interesting story. So that defensive end from Marshall, he had
like eighteen sacks, but he played, uh, what's their division
called again, I'm Jonald Mack. Yes, the back, so he
got there was a little people were scouting what was it,
scout helmets, Yes, yes, where they're they're kind of dismissing

(13:04):
the talent because of where he went to school. But
the Senior Bowl kind of, you know, silenced all that
because he dude, he showed out and there was an
off the field issue, right, That's why he fell, Yes,
That's exactly why he fell. So this kid is probably
a top twenty pick if he doesn't have the off

(13:25):
the field issues. Maybe even a top fifteen. He's an
edge rusher. He was like that.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
He was actually that like when people started doing their
NFL MAC DRAMs, he was going on top fifteen and
then he was going to the end of the first
and then he started falling into the second. And I'm like,
what is going on with this guy? And that's all
the off the field issues. And that's one reason why
I think he actually fell.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, no, I I that's why I love him here, man,
Like I completely agree with you if like I'm tak
you a gamble on.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like you're not. He went to a team that no
one wanted him to go do, because what what team
has a solid defense year in your seems like the
Ravens yep, you know, and the Ravens getting them. It's like,
I'm like, motherfucker, you know what, Like this sucks. I
did not want him go in there. I actually wanted
him to follow the Lions. The Lion's been have taken them,
but instead they pass on them win another direction. But

(14:13):
I can't knock the Lions for what they're doing because
they're just doing you know. NFL GM's have a better
idea of what they're doing than what we think we
know what they're doing. So I'll give the benefit of
the doubt to all these teams making these picks. Could
they be bad picks? Yes? Are people going to victory lap? Yes?
Am I get to a victory lap over it? No,
but I'd be like, huh see, I was kind of right,

(14:33):
but right. You know, anytime we're right, we run around
with it, but anytime we're wrong, we don't say anything.
We just kind of like move on the next topic,
like I didn't say.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That, right? Yeah, No, I of course people. People are
always going to you know, show you the receipts when
they're right, but then when they're wrong or you know,
they're never going to be like, oh man, you know
I was wrong, you were right? Good call. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
If I'm if I'm wrong, go ahead tell them I'm wrong.
Could you guess what? I probably been wrong more wrong
than I am right. But when I'm right, I'm a
victory lappet. When I'm wrong, good luck trying to find me.
He's just kidding. I won't be that way now. I'll
say it. I'll dude, I'll I'll take it, take the hits,
give me the hits.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, just tip your cat.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Man.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm with you, dude. But it's funny, dude, Like I
agree with you. I'm a Ravens because it's like you
see their draft and then it's like it's funny because
people wonder why good teams stay good because they do
things like this and now with Mike Green, man if
it's just off the field issues, and the Ravens felt
comfortable enough taking him around two, which tells me that
the off field issues aren't that big of a deal.

(15:37):
I think this kid's gonna rack up a ton of
sacks this year. I think he's gonna come in day one.
I think they're gonna, you know, utilize them heavily. I
really like the value here. It's plus twelve hundred and
both of these drops. Hampton opened up at fourteen hundred.
Green opened up at sixteen hundred. Right, Green's down to
plus twelve hundred. I just think, man, when you have

(16:01):
an edge rusher, you know, they win the Defensive Rookie
of the Year award more often than like a nose tackle.
Because there was a lot of good nose tackles that
I like this class. So I was originally, you know,
leaning that way, but I loved what was it, Walter
Nolan from the Ole miss I went to Arison. I
was but you know, at the end of the day,

(16:21):
man if Green, you know it is the top fifteen
pick we think he is. And he showed it at
the Senior Bowl like he had some reps first Josh
connorly dude, he liked sunned him on one rep, like
he literally threw Connory to the ground. So like that
bull rush pass rusher mentality that he has is legit.
I think he has a really good chance of winning
Defensive Rookie of the Year just based off of talent,

(16:45):
situation and how much they're gonna use him.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right, and I'm gonna go back to regular season
wins because he said good teams stay good. Yeah, Baltimore
over under eleven and a half. Are you taking me over?
Are you taking me under over? Right now? It's minus
one fifteen the under it's minus one oh five. If
you want, I gave you the quick schedule hit give

(17:08):
me the quick f faceoff dot com. So first five
games at Buffalo home against Cleveland, home against Detroit, at
Kansas City home against Houston. Actually know what I'll give
you the one more because they have a week seven
by they have the l A Rams at home also.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Before my god, dude, so they have one easy game.
They have one easy game the first six games.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, yeah, all right, So Cleveland's the easy game because
every I think everyone knows that, like they're the laughing
stock of the NFL. And I'm surprised Jamie Prog's on
here because he probably give me crap right now for
saying that.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'm gonna go with that. I don't want to take.
This is a tough one, man.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
You don't want to take, all right. So the first
six games, how do you look at that schedule?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
At But I mean I'm gonna say they're at least
at least three and three, right because at Buffalo that's
a tough game. They just lost in Buffalo in the playoffs, right,
so do they come back? Did they do enough to
to beat But I think Baltimore just matches up I
mean Baltimore, Buffalo matches up well with Baltimore. So I
think that's gonna be a tough game. Then you have Cleveland.

(18:17):
They're gonna win that game. And then the next two
is Kansas City and Hill Detroit Detroit then Kansas City.
So then so if we go, let's just go, like, uh,
every two games, I'm gonna say, like, Baltimore is good
enough to split. I don't know who they beat. I
can see them beating Kansas City over Detroit just because

(18:37):
Baltimore is not going to be able to like play
that bully ball with Detroit the way they do with
other teams. So I think Detroit matches up with them
very well. So I'll give them two and two, and
then the next two games are ms. Dude. I mean,
the Rams are a team everybody thinks gonna take a

(18:59):
step one of them, and Houston's a playoff team, but
they just came up. I'm gonna say they beat Houston,
and I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna say I'm gonna
see the Rams beat the Ravens. I do. So I
have them at three and three.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right, three and three? All right?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
All right?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now, all right, all right, three and three, so we
had three wins, all right, now, we're gonna hit after
the bye. I'll start with the first two s. After
the bye. They have home againt Chicago than at Miami.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Two wins. That's five. They're gonna that's a sweet.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
So we're five and three all right at Minnesota at Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That Minnesota is gonna be a tough game, that's gonna
I Baltimore is a better team. That's gonna be a
tough game.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's who they have. JJ McCarthy's quarterback. There. We have
no proof that J. J McCarty is a good quarterback,
no first inside of what we saw at Michigan.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I I agree with you. I'm not a JJ McCarthy guy,
but I am a Kevin O'Connell fan. I love what
the Viking he's did this offseason. Like they signed Kelly
as their center, They drafted Alignment in the first round,
Like dude, they they made a boom.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I'm with you on this one. I'm actually a JJ
McCarthy truth. I actually think JJ McCarthy is actually gonna
be good quarterback this year, starting this year, because he
showed some trades last season. And just like you said,
you know we have O'Connell. They're running the offense. We
know what he's what he's capable of. This gives JJ
McCarthy plenty of time to actually learn from a veteran
presidence of Sam Darnold last season, so you know he

(20:29):
wasn't able to play, he was injured, but he was
able to sit there and watch. You have Justin Jefferson,
Jordan Addison, T J. Hockinson, Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason now
also is a running back, so you know, you get
very good running back to hand them that you can
actually play in there. Yes, and like you just said,
to a solid offense. The defense is a little trickly.
You know, it's still kind of questionable, but I agree

(20:51):
with you on that one. That one could be a
tough one.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So oh, let's give them. I'm gonna give that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Is it at Minnesota, It is at Minnesota, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Spicy, I'm gonna take the sharp play, I think, because again,
I think the Vikings offense is in a position where
they can you know, they're going to make any quarterback
successful like JJ McCarthy would have to literally be terrible
to not just produce decent numbers in this offense that
Kevin McConnell has beautifully built him. So I'm gonna say

(21:25):
I'm gonna give JJ the benefit of the doubt. I
think he plays some good ball this year. If JJ
playing good ball this year, Minnesota is gonna be better
than people think. I'm gonna say Baltimore loses that game
before and four, and then they're gonna win that next game.
Who is it verse Cleveland. Yeah, they're gonna smoke, they'll
they'll they'll sweep Cleveland this year.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, Cleveland and the Jets are next two.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, so those are two wins. So now they're at
what seven?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And then following that, Yeah, Cincinnati Pittsburgh Cincinnati. Dude, that's
a tough one because their offense is so solid and
it's at home against Cincinnati. I don't think Cincinnati does
very well in Baltimore overall. I'd actually give that one
to Baltimore personally.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
You said it's in Cincinnati, it's in Baltimore. Oh, if
it's in Baltimore, I'm gonna take that, dude. I actually
because I don't know what the Steelers are doing, and
usually they do play the Ravens at least tough one game,
even with the inferior roster. But I agree with you.

(22:34):
I think they beat Cincinnati because, like I'm a Bengal guy,
I took them last year to win the North, so
I get the upside. I get the hype. I get
the offense. It's all very real. Yeah, Baltimore is so
good man. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take Baltimore in Baltimore.
I like that. And then is it? It's at Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Uh, the next game is at Cincinnati, so is he
They're at home against Sinnata, Cincinnati at home against Pittsburgh,
then at Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, so I'm gonna say they beat Cincinnati, they beat
Pittsburgh because they're both at home, and then they're going
to lose the Cincinnati on the road.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
So we're at nine to five. And then the final
three games New England at home and then at Green
Bay and you know it's gonna be cold up there,
and then it's at Pittsburgh to seal the deal. Do
they actually go one and two the to end the season?
You think?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well? I would have to imagine the Packers and Patriots
game is going to be a lot tougher than people think,
is it. And you said New England's at Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, And you said the New England's gonna make the playoffs,
you believe?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I just I let Baltimore matches up really well with
New England because Rabel's gonna try to just come in
there and pound it and they have Steph. You know what, Actually,
I just the the Ravens corners are terrible. Did they
do anything to address that? What was the question the
Ravens did they take? Who was their first round pick?

(24:09):
Wasn't it a safety? I think it was a safety.
I don't think I don't think the Ravens took any
corners this year. I'm actually gonna take New England in
that game I have. I'm gonna take New England. They
lose to New England and then they beat Green Bay
and they beat who's the last game at Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh.

(24:30):
They'll beat Pittsburgh unless they got the division wrapped up
and they don't have to play for anything.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So so you take the under because they.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Are, to man, a that's a top schedule, Like twelve
wins in the NFL is a lot, man. There's a
lot of good teams this year, dude. Again, they could
easily fall on that, you know, twelve to thirteen size
if they win some of those tough games. But I yeah,
I think it's gonna be right on the nose, man,

(24:57):
I think they'll be right around eleven or twelve wins
the way that schedules set up.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No, you actually have a yeah, yeah, some of these
odds are actually pretty good compared to I was trying
to find like last season's out there, because I remember
looking at a couple of those. I was like, oh man,
that's pretty sweet last season's odds. Oh yeah, like a
lot I found it. Never mind, I had a page
already pulled up like last season. You're like, you know
a lot of the over unders, like Kansas City. Yeah,

(25:24):
I went fifteen to two. The there over under was
at eleven and a half and we're in doublever and
my real quick and say, looking at the odds, I
don't see the Kansas City chief repeating eleven and a half.
I see. I'm taking the under at eleven and a half.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I think that's a really good pick, dude, because I
love the Chargers and the Broncos this year, like I
I could see both. I definitely one of them is
going to emerge.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Super Bowl hangover. Super Bowl hangover is why I is
one reason why I'm also taking the Kansas City Chiefs
as the under. Another reason is they don't hard to schedule.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, dude, I was just gonna say to piggyback Off
that they don't have one easy divisional game, not one.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, even the Raiders are I don't think the Raids
would be that tope of a game.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean the year with O'Connell, they beat them last
year in Kansas City with Aiden O'Connell and us Sincere McCormick.
I just think, like always divisional games are gonna be
played tough. It's just weird, like like that's why it's
every week you'll see a team that shouldn't be the

(26:34):
team they have no business beating, and it's always like
eighty percent of the time it's a divisional game. I
just think with Pete Carroll gent Gino, they drafted back right,
they drafted some other receivers too, They're gonna be scrappy, man.
So it's like I wouldn't be surprised if Kansas City
split with them. I'm not saying that they're gonna, you know,

(26:54):
lose both games of the Raiders, but if the Raiders
stole one, I would not be shocked. And I do
think think you know, the Broncos and the Chargers played
Kansas City, you know, to the wire last year, so
it's just like these teams got a lot better. They
have two really good coaches, Like, yeah, Kansas City's their
days are numbered. Man, I'm with you. I think it's

(27:15):
a great pick. I like the under there.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I mean a lot of people are gonna are gonna
say no, they have a hard beginning right off the
bat because you know at Chargers, which we not already
talked about how much we like the Chargers at home
against Philadelphia, you know, the touch push didn't get banned,
so that that one's great. It gets the New York
Giants at home or not at the Giants, So it's.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's the first win. That's their first win. Then at
least if they don't beat the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Then at home against Baltimore, I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Dude, they can easily be one and three, like.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like, yeah, I see if Falter were like like, if
they don't make the playoffs, I wouldn't be surprised. And
that's not like trying to be like, hey, you know,
do the hater, But I don't think, like I actually
think they can actually Faltered. I think they can actually
meet a nine ten win team at best. Like, I
think they're going to have a tough time this season.

(28:08):
I mean, you lose their offensive lineman. Okay, yeah, you draft,
you know, you signed the cup who forget who they
say they drafted.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
They drafted the tackle from Ohio State Simmons.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, but he had he had the bat, he had
won at torn A cl and yeah and he but
he could also be the best one that you know,
if everything desperate, he's not. I mean there was a
time where they took a Fisher who was a guy
out a central mission with the number one overall and
he bombed. So it doesn't like it doesn't matter to me,
Like I look at that. I look at their schedule,
and yes, I like the Chiefs also because my son

(28:39):
likes them, so I like to keep an eye on them.
But I see there's there. They actually struggle this year.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean, yep, they have.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
They have a tough schedule all the way through the bye,
all into the buy. You have the Chargers, the Eagles,
the Giants, which is easy, the Ravens, the Jaguars, the Lions,
the Raiders, the Commanders at and then it's by so
that's insane. It's a hell of a season to go into.
I think, then you're in Denver. That's good. Luck.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I dude, No, I I completely see your vision here, man,
I get the logic. I am in complete agreement just
because based off of how much I like the AFC West. Like.
The reason why I'm like, I think this is a
Grand Slam pick is because I think people are not
realizing how good the Chargers Broncos are going to be
and how much rate better the Raiders are going to be.

(29:31):
You know, even if that's eight and eight, they'll still
be a pain in the ass. So yeah, man, no
I I I'm completely behind you here. Man, I think
the Chiefs are gonna have a tough time this year,
not that they're not going to be a playoff team
that they could still easily and they will. They'll make
the playoffs right at least as a wild card. But yeah,
I'm with you, man. I could see ten wins, eleven wins,

(29:53):
nine wins somewhere around there, you know, because that that
schedule is not a joke, man, there's not. There's not
an easy win, like you know, Commanders, Buffalo, Chargers, Philly
like you know, those are those are some heavy hitters.
So we'll see. They did draft the left tackle, and
I agree with you, man, you know, I do think
Josh Simmons is a good football player.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
What was that recovered? Yes?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh oh yeah, you know I I I just appreciate, dude.
It's like, yo, you guys got your your asses kicked
in the Super Bowl and it was pretty embarrassing, like
your offensive line got man handled, Like thank you, thank
you for not you know, doing the cute thing and
taking a tight end round one like draft like you
have you have Patrick Mahomes, you have one of the
best quarterbacks of all time. Like, let's let's protect him.
He'll make the fifth round tight end like respectable. So yeah, no,

(30:45):
I I I appreciate what the Chiefs are doing. I
still think they'll be solid either good. I'm just with
you man, where it's like, I think there's gonna be
some regression because of the the evolving teams within their
own division, you know, and that plus the schedule. Yeah,
I'm taking the eleven and a half.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Under all, we got a fancy football question coming in
right now here we go, mister Battrick says, Hey, guys,
whish running backs in the same range as Kamara? Would
you draft over him in a full PPR redraft league?
So what I did is I went to fansy pros
to see where they have rankings.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
As of right now, thank you, my friend.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So tier three is where they have Alvin Kamara at
RB fourteen as of right now. So Tier three list
is Josh Jacobs, this is These are players ahead of them,
Josh Jacobs, Chase Brown, Jonathan Taylor, Breese Hall, Kyleen Williams.
You as want of all those guys ahead of them? Or
would you take any one of them behind Alvin Kamara

(31:42):
in a full PPR league.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Full PPR league out of those guys you mentioned it was,
say one more time, I think I know what's too
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
With Josh Jacobs, Chase Brown, Jonathan Taylor, Breese Hall, Kiln Williams.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm gonna take Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I would take all of them.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, yeah, well Chase Brown definitely, because it's like Chase
Brown is a stud. They only brought in Toge Brooks
ToJ Brooks is a big running back, so he's gonna help,
you know, take some of the load off of Chase Brown.
But he doesn't scare me like I'll see a lot
of people like giving like Tog Brooks steam and like
dude he's a good football player. He was great at

(32:24):
Texas A and M dude, but I think he's more
of like a compliment. I think it's better to have
some insurance buying Chase Brown. He's not the biggest guy, right,
but Chase Brown is a stud.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
He catch the ball around the ball like dude. Why
he was one of my favorite sleepers last year was
because we know who Zach Moss is, you know, right,
but I remember him playing versus your Michigan. Dude. He
had like thirty carries for one hundred and fifty yards
versus Harborough's Michigan. So yeah, man, give me Chase Brown

(32:59):
and give me Jonathan Taylor. Dude. I would even take
Omar and Hampton over him. I really would. I don't
think this.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Now we're getting behind it. Now we're behind These are
players actually behind Tomorrow now, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, dude, can we do that? Because I was just
trying to respect the list, But if you.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Want to, I was just trying to respect. I was
just doing a respect the list of saying, would you
still take these players over tomorrow? Taking them behind Kumara?
All right? So going behind kamoraw first one, James Cook.
I still really have James Cook. I don't think the
touchdown upsets there, but as an RB two hanging him
as an RB two only, yeah, I will take that.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm taking him over album tomorrow just because we both
I think we both are in. The Saints are going
to be horrible. Yeah, They're gonna be a ship show
this year, so I think.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, Kamorrow finished at RB fourteen. I think it's going
to be his absolute ceilings. But I don't see him
finishing and he.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Has to catch a million balls.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Dude, all right after that, Kenneth Walker, I am Kenneth Walk.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's the easiest pick I'll ever make in my life.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Agreed, all right, Joe Mixon after a big season, does
Joe Mixon still stay above or below?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm I'm thinking mixing just because I hate the Saints
and I love Alvin kamar Bro one of my favorite
sleepers of all time. I just dude, he's like thirty
years old, thirty one, You're on the worst team in
the NFL. I'm I'm staying away. Personally, I would sell
him if I had mean dynasty.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
If I can Chuba Hubbard, Hubble, James Connor.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I'm gonna say James Connor just because of our I
think Arizona will be a scrappy team this year will
be Fantasy fred Lee. So the only thing with James
is is, like I know, like if James playing, I'm
gonna get solid to high end RB two production. But
if he gets hurt, which happen.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I could get hurt too. So we're just gonna assume
everyone's healthy one hundred percent all the way through.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Okay, Okay, perfect, James Connor.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Easy, David Montgomery, monty, all right, new ere that Ole,
Marion Hampton, Aaron Jones.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm going Kamara. I think Mason will be more of
a pain in the ass that people think I will.
I will take I will take Alvin there only because
I think Mason is going to get more volume than
people think. And Aaron Jones is also injury prone, even
though we're saying he's gonna be healthy. So if he's healthy,

(35:26):
I still think a lot of touchdowns are going to
be taken back now because you got a you know,
a very nice goal line back that he just paid
ten million dollars. So I'm gonna go with Alvin and
just you know bank that you know the Saints just
drove him a bunch of screens all game until he
gets traded. If he can't get traded, you know, but
I would imagine that the deadline the Saints would have
to be if you're if you're shopping Chris o'lava, then like,

(35:48):
why haven't we shopped Alvin Kamara?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So yeah, man, I hope and dude, hey, dude, that's
where it's like you could play like Kansas City trades
like the Saints a third at the line for him
or something cool like that, and then just hope like
Kamar goes to you know, a sick fantasy landing spot.
But over Aaron Jones, I'm gonna take Alvin, all.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Right, I'm still I'm still taking Aaron Jones.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Respect it.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tony Pollard, Joan, I'm not Jade Jones. Albut Kamara Poward
had two hundred and sixty Rusian attempts and he that
was he had about one hundred more than Ta Jay
Spears over all. In general, Kamara I had two hundred
twenty eight russiantemps nine hundred and fifty yards.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's just hard man for me to.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Butson survived a lot on the receptions. Dude kind of
helped it helped this game out. And whose quarterback? Tyla
shouts quarterback, dude, I mean I think he forgets what
team he plays for a lot. And he's the interception king,
which I've watched more and more of his tape. He
kind of just has to throw it away. It's Spencer
Rattler's quarterback, which I think is going to be actually

(36:56):
the quarterback. You might have a chance. I'm the Actually
this is where I draw the line at. I'm actually
gonna go Alvin Kamara here.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yep, I that's what I'm saying, Like Tony.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Like, if so we haven't met More's at back end
RB two, Yeah, he'd be a safe So so mister Magic,
if you're looking for a running like if you're trying
to compare to Kamorrow, we'd say he's a back in
RB two more than a front in RB two.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, dude, easily take back to like Kenny Walker, Hampton,
Chase Brown, Jonathan Taylor, like those no no doubters, no
doubters over album Saints are gonna be.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Bad fake you see happened well the day fifty two?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes, Steve my boy tell him. Dog, he sucks, tell him,
nag sucks. He's like he's not getting it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Now he does suck. I mean like he just he
just gets a boatload of carries. Yeah, I've did, and
I've been as I totally before pounded the table for
Mary Inhampton just because Jim Harbaugh got the running back
he finally wanted that he couldn't get at Michigan.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Such a good nugget, Dude, I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I don't think a lot of people know that one.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
They don't, Dude, they don't. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So get back on track here. I'm the over under
won the props that so I already said that the
Kansas City eleven under eleven and a half. I took
the over on the forty nine ers at ten and
a half wins. Why they had one of the easiest schedules, yep,
Like I don't understand. Yeah, okay, you can say you

(38:25):
lost to Bo Samuel. But Christian McCaffrey's coming back, and
we saw how this offense kind of struggle last year
without Christian McCaffrey. And then when McCaffrey did come back
for that Buffalo game before he got reinjured, he actually
looked like good Christian McCaffrey. Then that team was actually moving,
it was flowing. Now it's like ten and a half wins.

(38:46):
It's like, I don't see it now at Seattle. I don't.
I'm not a huge I'm not a Sam Donald believer.
I think Sam Donald it was more of a O'Connell
type of play, and it took him seven years to
be come into the NFL finally, So that's it. I
see that as a win at New Orleans. San Francisco's
gonna win that one at home against Arizona. It's gonna
be a tough one, but I can see them possibly

(39:08):
pulling that one out against Jacksonville, pulling that one out
against the Rams close. But I say they lose at
the Rams, I'm not. I mean, I know we've been
talking about the Rams. So as right now, they're four
and one at Tampa Bay. Could be tough. It's always
tough there in Tampa Bay for him. But I'll give

(39:28):
them a win at six and one against Atlanta. Atlanta
I think is gonna surprise people this year, and I'll
give Atlanta they actually win on this one. So one, two, three, four, five,
six seven. So we're at five and two at Houston.
That's a tough one to win. Five and three. So yeah,

(39:51):
they're five and three against the Giants. I think they
pull that one out six against the uh with that
Rams at home, I say they pulled that one out
at Arizona. They always seem to split. I say they
lose that one kids Carolina win against Cleveland. When Tennessee win,

(40:11):
Indianapolis win Chicago, I'll give him a loss there Seattle win.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I mean, dude, I love that pick. I do think
the Niners are a team that everybody's sleeping on. I
think they take a step. I think you're your forecast
is pretty good. I love that pick. I could see
as much as I like the Rams, I could see
the Niners winning that division. Like, yeah, I think the
Niners are right up the Rams, But I really do.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I could see. I mean, like I consider look at
the schedule over and over again. I can see three
to four losses just for them, just based on that
schedule A loner, because I can see a lot of
close games going one way or the other. But I
think they're actually going to be better off. You know,
we got Ricky pearsall coming in second year, you got
Juwan Jennings stepping up as the wide receiver one there,
full healthy Christian McCaffrey, Isaac Randall can still be there

(41:02):
to relieve him. George Kittle getting an extension, you know,
pretty getting his extension, so at least have good years
of forty nine ers coming in here, especially this year.
The season looks very good for him. But then another one.
As we've been talking about the La Rams, one of
the player pops. I loved a lot Matthew Stafford over

(41:24):
four thousand yards? Am I? Am? I too crazy to
think of that? Or is that a smart one to
look at right now? Based on what we see with
Matthew Stafford. Let me see you real quick. If I'm
looking at Matthew Stafford right now, let's just say, what
do you have last season? Last season he had three

(41:47):
seven and sixty passing yards, twenty passing touchdowns, eight interceptions.
You had a declining Cooper cup who is basically getting
fifteen plus targets. Oh that's why I need to answer anything,
and we'll getting back in here you guys in a minute.
But looking at that, you had so a betthew Stafford
with the declining Cooper Cup. You're trying to land pooking Akua.

(42:11):
You had a lot of injuries last season too, between
the wide receivers where you didn't have the status of
having them on quick enough. Welcome back, Ernie.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I thought that technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I thought you were just staring at me like like
you were looking to day is confused when I was
like saying, Matthew Safford over four thousand passing yards. But
I was just stating everyone here that you know, you
had the declining Cooper Cup last season, Pook and a
Coua had a couple of injuries, so the injuries didn't
really help out. Yeah, you had Tyler Higbee who basically
this majority of the season, and you didn't have the

(42:43):
past the weapons that Safford should have had most of
the season, and he still put up almost thirty one
hundred passing yards, so to ask for a little over
two or more yards. With the additions of Davante Adams,
you got a health Pook and Akua. You have a
solid core of of running backs with Canon Williams, Blake

(43:03):
horm and everyone's favorite rookie sleeper Doctors Hunter.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, because they had to air that every now they're
airing out my sleepers. Like they had to show that
clip of McVeigh saying no, this is my favorite guy. Like,
didn't shut up, man, you know, Don Climan is killing me.
But yeah, no, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, it gives and I like this one to pick
a lot because Defonta Adams gives the Mats Staffiord the
X receiver he's been looking for. Remember how great the
X receiver was in Detroit for Matt Stafford. Who was it? Megatron? Yeah,
Calvin Johnson, I mean, de Fanta Adams is no Calvin Johnson.
I don't know. Don't get me wrong on that. Like
he was a hell of a freaking big body, wide

(43:42):
receiver with a tight end build. But Dafantae Adams. You know,
I still think he has the capability to outperform his ADP,
which as of right now I think is let me
see you real quick. I want to say he is
like back end wide receiver eight wide receiver eighteen, so
he's still a wide receiver. Two. I think he can
jump that easily in a full PPR. I mean, Matt

(44:05):
Stafford over four thousand pass hards, Yeah, dude, plus one
fifty five odds I'm smashing that all day long.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Oh wow, it's plus one fifty five yeah, plus money
on that.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, plus money on that. So it just seemed like
easy money.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I mean, I'm with you too, dude, because they even
added like like, like you said, Tyler Higby's back now,
and you saw when he came back those three games
that he's shrunk together at the end of the year,
including the postseason, they were solid, like he was really
factored in, he was producing, he looked good, and they
just drafted Terrence Ferguson, So like they have a body
at tight end this year no matter what, even if

(44:40):
you get Higby healthy or Ferguson steps up and he's
the player that mcveigh's hyping him up to be right right.
So I'm with you, dude. I love that play. I mean,
I'm in on the RAMS this year. I think that's
it's almost feels like it's too easy, Like you're giving
me plus money to take this. But I just don't
see how with McVeigh calling the plays less neat as

(45:02):
your GM building your roster, Varte Adams, Phuka Nakula, Tyler Hickbee,
Terrence Ferguson. Like I'm with you dude, I think they
take off. You know, I think even if one of
them gets hurt, I still think he could throw for
four thousand this year, you know, because the Rams are
gonna be in a lot of you know, shootouts. You know,
they're just that's the team, that's the way their team's built.

(45:25):
So I think there's gonna be a lot of high
scoring games this year, and you're gonna see, you know,
Stafford really really inflate those stats.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, and as right now, they have the over under
for the Chargers at nine and a half over nine
and a half at minus one forty five over eleven
and a half plus twenty five. So they're looking at
ten wins. We'll just say to be on the safe.
So ten and seven is not a bad deal. You know,
they still have they some of the opportunity to actually
make the playoffs. Yeah, they'll be stuck behind the forty

(45:55):
nine ers. So it's the forty nine er stay true.
So I that's why I like him trying to keep
up because the defense is kind of the struggling Still. Yes,
there's socks of Jalen Ramsey possibly being trade there back
to there again, but until it happens I'm not gonna
jump to conclusions, but definitely love that schedule a lot.
And then another player prop, which is a lot of

(46:15):
people are gonna hate me on this one because it's
a true factor, and that's the Saquon Barkley under fifteen
hundred and point five rushing yards. Yeah it's at minus
one ten, No big deal, there's the over under wasn't
even like set and anything, but let's remember the curse
of three seventy plus matting cover. Usually when players like

(46:40):
this had these kind of numbers, they don't repeat as
hear everyone, y're in, Y're out. I mean, like last season,
like look at Christian mccaffre. You know everyone was saying,
don't still take him as the number one overall pick
because of what he can do? You like, he has
that much upside. Okay, Well as right now you can
say the same thing about Saquon Barkley. There's no injury
right now, and they're still looking good. The offensive lines
still very good. Jalen Hurts is still there, a J. Brown,

(47:03):
You're still playing off offensive weapons around there. But what
saying Saquon Barkley is gonna repeat that fifteen hundred yard performance.
I just don't see it. Plus, you know, he had
in addition to three hundred and seventy eight touches, he
had one hundred and four in the playoffs, so bringing
his total to four hundred and eighty two, which in
number ten all time in a single season. Those have
quite a bit of red flags if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
No, yeah, dude, I I I see the vision. I
get your logic. Normally I would agree with you. Just
here it's like, so again, I'm a Giants fan, so
I've watched Sakuon for years. I always thought the injury
prone claim was a little like taken out of proportion,
like outside of the ACL the other injuries are more
of like like bad luck like one time, like like

(47:48):
he rolled his ankle in a game, and like he
missed some games and stuff. So like Christian McCaffrey, I
feel like is more like like ligaments and muscle issues.
So it's like he actually, you know, warned the injury
prone label. The thing with Saquon is man is it's
like he kind of reminds me of like Derrick Henry,
Like these guys are just built different. Like I appreciate

(48:12):
the analytics and I agree with them. I just think
there are the exception, and I think Saquon Barkley and
Derrick Henry is exception to any running back. You know,
analytics that you could throw at me, including age and
all those factors. So listen, the Eagles have the best
offensive line in the NFL. You know they even you know,
they spent like three picks on Day three on the

(48:34):
offensive line, so they're always building and you know, solidifying
that position you have. Saquon Barkley is one of the
best running backs of all time. He just showed us
that he's the best running back in the NFL last year.
He's only twenty eight. You know, it's not like he's thirty.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Your paths at h aapex though, Now, huh, you're pass
at age apex. Now, where's certainly he should be declining now, right.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
That's what. So that's my whole point where I'm trying
to make about Henry and Barkley. He's like where I
agree with the analytics if we're talking about Devin Singletary,
Like I don't like when I look at Saquon and
Derrick Henry just you know, I come to a conclusion that, Okay,
these guys are built different than the average human being.
And it's like, that's why I see your vision and

(49:20):
I understand your logic. I just think Saquan is the
best running back in the NFL. I do think he
has a year or two left of elite production. And
unless he does get hurt or the Madden Kirs strikes him,
I'm afraid of him running behind that line man, because
he can take you to the house any minute, you know.
So I think I'm the opposite of you there only

(49:41):
because if he doesn't get hurt, I think he's gonna
smash that. I really do. Unless you know, again, the
Eagles over Under is at like eleven and a half,
so it's not like they're gonna be on cruise control
at the end of the year. So we'll see. But
I'm gonna disagree with you there, Ryan.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Finally, finally you can disagree with me. I like this,
so I like where this is going. This is great.
Disagree with me all you want. I'm cool with that
because you can take the over and you still that
the same mod I did. You still the same odds,
So it's nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong with that
at all, all right, And then my last one, and
this is one player I actually love a lot this season,

(50:19):
and that's Strake London over one thousand, fifty point five
receiving yards on this for the season. Now, the odds
aren't like super like meaning your way, as most of
these aren't. So the odds are over my over unders
both plus it's minus one ten. But what I loved
about him is his first his three games with Michael Pennix,

(50:42):
it was if you extrapolate it and this is this
is what sounds funny because it's more like more of
like the playing the Madden game, right, you know, if
you played regular season Madden on easy mode, this is
what his game would look like with just Michael Pennis.
Over those three games, he extrapolated over seventeen weeks, two
hundred twenty one targets, one hundred and twenty four receptions,

(51:03):
one nine hundred ninety four receiving yards. In what world
are you ever going to see two hundred twenty one receptions.
You're not. It's I mean, it'd be like it's just
if you're like a five star, you're eight foot tall
on your receivers, yeah, you could do that, but in reality,
you're not gonna be able to do that, right, but

(51:24):
also at the same time looking at it, Drake London
was actually third in targets for last season. Ahead of him,
it was just Jamar Chase and Leak Neighbors. Chase had
one hundred and seventy five targets, Leak Neighbors had one
hundred and seventy. Drake Lonon one hundred and fifty eight
total finished with one two hundred and seventy one yards
on one hundred receptions. Now we're having Michael Pennix there,
and you and I debated about Michael Pennocks. You were saying, no,

(51:47):
he's got that bad knee. I agree, he has a
bad knee. But as of right now, they still have
Kirk Cousins back there also, so Kirk Cousins would still
feed them. Either way. The scene that's over one thousand
and fifty yards just seems like a cheap thing. They
shouldn't made a more like twelve hundred maybe thirteen hundre
yards and make it more appealing because I see him

(52:07):
going well over thirteen hundred yards just because he is
the wide receiver. One and plus one number of movie
is uh, Michael Pennix. If you don't know, I can
tell you right now. You're gonna laugh about it.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Number nine? What number is, Drake May We're not drinking great,
Drake London. Holy crap, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Number eight.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, it's number five. It is nine to five all
day long. It is an eight hour day, five nine
to five, nine to five. No, Number eight was Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I got the oh no, stay away, Yeah, no, dude,
I'm with you there. It's like I agree. It's one
of those bets where it's like, oh this is too easy, Nah,
smash it, you know, cause it's like Pendic's just that's
what I was saying. Like he has a knee injury
that a lot of people are on there, like know
about where it's like he's one the injury away from

(53:01):
never playing again. That's kind of probably why he fell,
and like why people thought he was going to fall
in the draft.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
He felled eight overall, he went ahead of JJ McCarthy
bone knicks.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Going going ahead of bone knicks hindsight is crazy, but
to each his own. But yeah, dude, the only thing
that scares me about that play is if he went down.
But if they keep cousins, because you make they still
have cousins on the roster, then, yeah, Cousins is a
serviceable enough quarterback where London's still gonna hit a thousand yards.
He did it last year, So yeah, no's that's a

(53:34):
good play. I love that play.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, Like I'm trying to look at it, see if
there's anything that would be more fun to look at
right now, trying to see an easy one. Let me
see if I can find a harder one. Here over
here on DraftKings real quick while where Bsen is trying
to see if the over under is actually one that's
actually more of a plus minus. Oh, here we go.
Dj Moore over under oneenty twenty five point five yards receiving.

(53:56):
The over is plus one ten, the minus is one
thirty five. Actually, think he goes under a thousand yards
as a receiver with all those you know, everyon's gonna say,
Ben Johnson, all those weapons there, you can't feed everyone.
There's the famous nomal creature is there's too many mouths
to feed. How many times you ever heard that one?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Well, I think Caleb showed last year who his favorite
target is and that's Dj Moore. So again, I'm not
going to invest here because the Bears are too murky
for me, like I don't know, you know how it
is gonna run? Yeah, man, like you know the Ben
Johnson did just draft his own receiver, will Luther Burden

(54:37):
get some favoritism? But if I was there too, Yeah,
but if I was to take a guess, man, I
think Caleb is gonna if he takes another step, he's
gonna just keep going to DJ Moore, especially while he's here.
So I mean, if Caleb Williams does take that step
under Ben Johnson, he's gonna smash that. I really do.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
So you take me over over to oney twenty five yards?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
What do you finished with last year?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Let me say, hey real quick? He finished with Now
now you got me looking for it. He finished with
one thoty eight yards?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Definitely yeah, over then if he had if he finished
with a thousand yards last year on that ship show,
and now Caleb Williams is a better coach, better offensive line,
like yeah, I I would definitely take the over on that.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Then all right, So your tube of Roma Dunes, that
doesn't value you no losing who is that name, Keenan Allen?
But Keenan Allen never resigned, so that should puts Ojunde
over into number two Luthor. At the addition of Luther Burden,
you still have col Comment on this offense. You just

(55:56):
added Close and Lovelin, so basically you can get on
double tight ends if you really on into and basically
have seven offensive linemen because they're both pretty good blockers,
although Lovelin is not as good as blocker as Cole
Kamen's probably but here or there. And then you still
have DeAndre Swip in the backfield, who is also one
of Ben Johnson's running backs back when he was at
Detroit before they traded him away after drafting Jamiir Gibbs.

(56:23):
So yeah, I'm with you. I will actually take the
over also on DJ Moore, so we were both in
agreement on that one. I think it will be close though,
So I like it that. I like that one. He
might he might smash the over, but the smash in
the over could be like one thousand and thirty yards.
Just because you don't know exactly how that whole offense
is gonna go together.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I would just imagine he's still the alpha there, you know.
But I'm with you, man, I think Luther Burden is
definitely gonna be a fact of this year.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
All right, we got one last question that we're going
to wrap it up here. So inbox offers, So someone's
getting Hampton and DJ Moore for Saquon Godwin and twelve Well,
Hampton and DJ Moore for Saquon and Godwin and a
twelve team super Flex PPR zero point seventy five Titan Premium.
So he so his running backs right now would be

(57:15):
Bijon Hampton, CMC, Alba Kamara. Uh, all right, that's that.
That's so that's his running backs. His pride receivers are
as right now are i'm on Saint Brown, Pukakua, Travis Hunter, Rashi,
Rice Tyreek, DJ Moore? So would you take Hampton and
DJ Moore for Godwin and Saquon? So doesn't this doesn't

(57:39):
give him Saquon. So his running back prio would be Bijon,
Saquon and CMC right now.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Oh dude, I was on with Steve the other night
when the same version I think they asked this question
y from I don't remember the name off the top
of my head. I just remember the scenario. I mean,
it really comes down to like what are you like?
What what are you trying to accomplish? Like if you
want to kind of stay young and build and compete

(58:08):
at the same time. I would take the Hampton side.
I really I love you know, Mari and Hampton's you know,
Dynasty outlook, and I think DJ Moore will be the
number one in Chicago. Where Barkley it's kind of like
where you know your you think he goes under fifteen
hundred yards, right, I personally don't, but I do know

(58:29):
that he's not gonna do this forever. You know, He's
probably gonna do this for another year or two. So
it's like, if you want to win a championship, man,
then yeah, then then you know, get Saquan and you know,
ride him in Bijeon to the Promised Land. But if
you want to, you know, stay youthful and not really
give up your your your future, and you know, you

(58:50):
keep that because Hampton and Bijon is gonna be a
nice tandem, you know, and he year tops. So it's
a tough one, man, it really is. You know. It's
I don't know, I see the Dynasty player in me,
like I want the younger guys like I don't want.
I don't want, you know, like I get it. It's Barkley,
I understand what he just did. I just even, you know,

(59:12):
disagree with you, and I'm going under fifteen hundred yards.
But if Hampton gives me solid production this year plus
his future outlook, and I'm getting a thousand yard receiver
in Dj Moore like Chris Godwin's coming off an injury,
like Chris Godwin's good. But it's like the Wrenches is
where it's like, you guys gotta look at the age
next to the production because these guys are eventually gonna

(59:32):
fall off. So you know, it's a matter of if,
like you know, not when, it's a matter of when
not if. So, oh, I'm gonna you know what I'm
gonna I'm gonna take Hampton and Dj Moore. That's that's
a side I'm gonna say. I give me the younger
running back in the Dynasty League. You know, if your
team's that good around it where Hampton's eventually gonna catch

(59:56):
up and he's gonna be the bell cow for Harborough
and he's gonna have a massive workload. You know, if
you make that trade and Barkley gets hurt kind of
like you think will happen, Ryan, how much would you
hate yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I hate myself quite a bit. So that that and
I feel like I lost out on a future like
you said next year, like I love like Bijon and
cmc as Right now, I feel like, are kick ass
running backs going for this year? Kick ass running backs?
Any Saquon, you're flexing him now, you're getting Now you're
getting overexposure under your running back when your running backs

(01:00:28):
are currently fine. You keep Hampton. Hampton might not produce
this year, he might be more of a second half
running back, but you're looking more into twenty twenty six
because now je Harris only has a one year contract. Yes, so,
and then DJ Moore is healthy right now, he's healthy.
Chris Gonowin is still coming to back off from an injury. Yes,

(01:00:48):
Chris Gondwin was killing last season. He was the top
five wide receiver before he went down. But when he
went down, you know you lost him for the season.
So you're basically trying to trade a potential good rookie
who I think is gonna be solid for years to come.
Dj Moore, who I think is still gonna be really
good even with Caleb Williams, for Sakuin Barkley, who I

(01:01:11):
think is definitely gonna take a step back and Godwin,
for god knows what, We don't know if he's gonna
be able to produce what he was doing last season,
So you're basically training for names over production and I
want the future of Hampton to stay there with me
over Saquon and keep you j Moore over Godwin all
day every day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yes, because well they also they got they drafted at Buka,
So that's probably like Godwin replacement, I would I would imagine, like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Mike Evans, that's your Mike Evans replacement.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Do you think Mike I got, I got a Buka peg.
Moore is a slot guy like he runs a lot
of those the same route as Chris Godwin does. So
I don't know. I just I do think Godwin, what
was it? What contract did they just give him? Didn't
they just give him a contract?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Three years? Three year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Glorified? Is a glorified two year contract one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I think I'd have to look into it more, but
I know three years, I think of sixty six million
dollars and two thirds of the money guaranteed at signing,
So yeah, it's it's pretty heavy. And he's twenty nine
years old, so basically you're getting to age thirty two
season and then you throw him away and then well you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Know, if you if you so you have Mike Evans still.
They just drafted a stud from Ohio State. You know,
Chris Godwin is twenty nine years old coming off an injury.
You know, DJ Moore is attached to a young quarterback
and a block like you know, potentially blossoming offense, and
he's younger, not coming off an injury. And then you

(01:02:46):
get the future outlook of Hampton and like Hampton like
he could either be the guy from day one. It
could be a fifty to fifty split or it's gonna
be you know, he takes off in the second back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
It's gonna be given he split I think. I mean,
I'll the bet there's no way that you're Hampton out
there like that, right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Then he'll probably just eventually run away with the job.
Completely agree with you there, ye form one hundred per
I mean, but that that that this is where it's
kind of like you gotta look like this is dynasty.
You gotta look ahead where it's like, you know, you
might be getting elite production from Hampton as early as
this year, Like you know, you just gotta be a
little patient and then by next year, you know, if

(01:03:22):
you have Caleb Williams number one wide receiver and you
have the Bell Cow running back of you know, Harborough's
offense and what he's twenty two and Dj Moore is
gonna be twenty eight, Like you feel really good about yourself.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna stay on that side just
because I think Dj Moore and Hampton will still produce
this year. And I'm not now gambling on you know,

(01:03:44):
good players like Barkley is one of the best running
backs ever, but he's twenty eight. He's up there. You know,
I think you're getting a year or two of the
leite production out of Barkleyton and then that'll probably be
the end.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
YEP, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Love it, love it, love it, Ironie, let's end it
off here man. Everyone, have a great weekend. We'll get
you guys next time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Thanks for joining us, guys, have a good weekend.
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