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Speaker 1 (00:10):
What's up everybody. Steve DiAngelo here at Fantasy Savvy. We
got our boy Ernie at Fantasy Antony. You can see
it below the handles. We're gonna be doing a live
underdog Best Ball Mania draft tonight for the Face Off
Sports Network. So you guys have never done an underdog draft,

(00:30):
you know, you guys have? You know, we want some introductions,
some pointers. We'll be going through everything. Ernie's gonna be
dropping a bunch of rookie info. He's all over the
rookies as he's drafted. I'm sure he'll drop some knowledge there.
We got dynasty drafts, you know, rookie drafts going on
right now as well. But it is Best Ball season.
Best Ball leagues have opened up across the board, and

(00:54):
everybody in their mother is drafting right now, and you
know everybody's trying to You got these Hawks out here
trying to fill every single league. So you know, we
stay on top of it early. We're in you know,
mid May, and we'll be doing these Best Ball drafts
all the way up until kickoff for Week one. I
know I will anyway, and I'm sure Ernie will as well.
So so yeah, so Ernie, welcome, to the show Man.

(01:16):
I think this is your first show deal with me,
but I know you went on with Ryan previously. But
welcome to the show Man. How's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thanks Bro, Really, I'm happy to be here. I really
appreciate you guys having me. Yeah, first show with Ryan
went really well. I'm excited to do my first best
ball with you. Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, man, I'm ready. I'm ready to dig in.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah man. So you know how long you been playing
fantasy What kind of leagues have usually been playing in?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yah, career?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So I would to say my first league I did
was probably twenty twelve, so a little over ten years. Now.
Start off like everybody else, just redraft, and then you know,
you get addicted and now you're you know, you're you're
playing more leagues, and and that evolved in the keeper leagues,
and then I would be introduced to sleeper in like
twenty twenty nineteen, and I got my first taste of

(02:08):
Dynasty and then I've never looked back. Man. So I'm
just a fantasy football not like everybody else. Man, I'm
a football nerd. You know, at Sunday, I'm just checking
my fantasy lineups, checking my same game parlays that aren't
gonna hit. But yeah, man, I love football and I
am an enthusiast, so I'll try to help everybody as

(02:30):
much as I as I can.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, and Ernie's gonna be with us all season long.
We're gonna be doing Best Ball drafts. He'll be doing
some dynasty stuff, maybe some auction stuff, some high stakes
leagues as well. So yeah, that's how it is, man.
You get into it, you know, usually start with one league.
Your friends, you know, your family gets you into a league.
In my case, I got all my brother when I
was real young, and then yeah, you get into another league.

(02:52):
And then as the game obviously opened up over the years,
now it's insane. You got the best ball, you got dynasty,
you got auction keeper leagues, you got high stakes. You
just you just keep opening up because you can't get enough.
So that's what we're here for. We got the passion
and uh we're gonna drop this underdog twenty five buck
Best ball Mania six. Uh, so let's get let's bring

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it up and uh we'll enter at the same time. Here,
let's do a little bit of a countdown. Uh, thirty
seconds per pick. We'll count down five seconds. You ready?
You ready? Already?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, sir man, I'll follow your lead.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
All right, five four, three two one enter? Okay, and oh,
waiting for eleven people? Did you get in?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I am slot eleven?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
What slaughter you?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh wow, I think you. I think you might have
got in to another draft. Oh are you? Is your
did your did you fill?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah? Mine's filled?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh god? All right? All right, well wait, I'm waiting
for eleven people. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I got a good spot too. I got eleven, so.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
We could we could talk about your draft, and you know,
when mine fills up, we'll talk about mine as well.
I'm surprised it's eleven people, though.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, that's crazy. I must have just gotten one and
you must have just like missed that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, probably, I mean we hit at the same time.
Now I'm down to ten people. Okay, all right, Well,
what's when you're playing best ball? What's your general strategy?
I mean, I mean you're playing the board, obviously, but
are you you know? I mean last year going in,
everybody was like, you know, the popular thing the past
couple of years was got to get the receivers. The

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receivers going off left and right, and then last year
it kind of switched things up because the running backs
were so dominant. So what have you seen in your
Best Ball draft so far? Is it going back to
receivers once again or are people more inclined to go
back to go into the running backs now.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So it's funny because you look at these rankings and
it's it's running back top heavy right, And usually, like
when you're playing redraft in all my years, like the
people that have like the RB one, like if you
had David Johnson that year, you wont you know, you
had Derrick Henry his monster season, you know, like you
were in the championship. But now it's like the trend

(05:22):
is going back towards wide receivers. And when I'm doing
Best Ball, you still I still see like a lot
of favoritism towards the wide receivers. But either way, man,
like you know, if you're getting Jamar Chaser, Saquon Barkley,
you know you really really can't go wrong. So personally,

(05:43):
I like the way that it's been set up. I
think there's good running backs and like the fourth or
fifth round, so for example, I'm pick one point one
right now, I'm sorry one point eleven. My goal is
I want to go because I shoot for upside. So
I love my stack is Nico Collins and Brock Bowers

(06:04):
and hopefully I get it all right. So I got
Nico Collins right, and then hopefully at two point two
I get Brock Bowers and this way because like Nico Collins, right,
how I look at it, he's like late first round pick,
actually beginning a second round. He was on the page

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for two thousand yards before he got hurt, you know,
and I feel like everybody forgets that. And I think
he's being bought at a dip right now, and I
think he's easily a top five Fantasy football wide receiver.
And then I love getting Brock Bowers at that next pick,
which I was able to because what.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Do you think about the kid Higgins?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
They took Jayden Higgins, Yeah, like I They also took
Noel who wasn't bad either, in the third.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
So they're loading up. They're trying to help CJ.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Stroud. They're making smart decisions. But I still think Nico
is going to be that alpha, you know what I mean,
Like he's the veteran Stroud obviously that's his go to.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
He has the connection with him.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think Higgins will come in and it will actually
help Nico because now you know, teams can't just focus
on Nico Collins, you know, and it was kind of
heading that way after you know, they lost Stefan Diggs
to ACL Dels Tank Dell to another ACL. I'm pretty sure,
So I think this will actually help Nico. I still

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think he's going to be the alpha there without a doubt.
I think he's going to get a ridiculous amount of
targets this season, and if he stays healthy, I'm I
wouldn't bet against him being a top.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Five wide receiver. I feel really confident in that.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah. I mean Nico man, he kind of like a
couple of years ago, you know, coming out of Michigan,
I was like, you know, everybody's talking him up. I
was kind of a little late to the party. And
then just watching him the last couple of years, I mean, yeah,
he's completely legit. He's got great size, great speed. Stroud
you know, are they gonna be able to protect them

(08:09):
a little bit better? They kind of did some weird
things with that offensive line, shipping off guys left and right.
So that was kind of an issue for him. But yeah,
Nico is gonna be the guy there. I do like
Higgins what I saw out of him. Jalen Noel, I
don't mind him either. I think he's a good little piece,
but you know, a good slot receiver. But yeah, I
mean I don't mind going Nico. I mean he's certainly
a stud and he he kind of showed that last year,

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showing himself as one of the best receivers in the league.
So mine is down to two people. Did you join
the twenty second one or by a chance do you think?
Or are you in thirty seconds?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I am in thirty seconds?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, Yeah, I don't know what that was, just weird.
I got out of the other thirty second one. I
jumped into the twenty second because the thirty second was
taken forever. But I'm down to two people, So yeah,
I'll pull it up sooner that we could go over
my draft. But you know, you keep doing your thing.
You can talk about your draft as well.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, absolutely, I just I must have just snuck in
and you must just missed it.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, our boy, Al friend of the show says, some
fellas Al usually joins us all year long. Welcome to
the show. Al all right, so still waiting for two?
Did you pick again or no?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, I'm up in seven picks. I'm actually I hate
this rapper. I don't like this spot trying to figure
out and.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I kind of like, I kind of like DK two
because you go twenty rounds whereas Underdog is eighteen, kind
of like the two extra rounds, right, would you like
a little bit better?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I do? And they have Rashie. Rashie Rice is a
guy that I'm targeting this year. I think he I
think I've been watching.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
His some of his workouts.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
He looks good, like I'm not really concerned, Like I
know he just toreris acl But you know, if these
guys they have the best doctors, if they do rehabit
the right way, like they're gonna come back fun.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah you too. And plus that was kind of early.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
What was that like week it was like week four?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, it was early. So yeah, so he's got time.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh yeah, and I think he's also his his court.
Can he start whatever from the accident that's apparently getting
pushed back from what I've read, Again, this isn't like,
you know, concrete, but if that's true, man, I mean
he's another one. You look at that first three games,
he was on pace to be a top five fantasy

(10:25):
receiver easily. So he on DK you can get him
in the third, fourth round. I think that is a steal.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
But unfortunately in this one he's ranked like an underdog.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
They got him ranked like twenty ninth or thirtieth, so
he's already gone.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. All right, so I got the
second pick here?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh okay, can you see that?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Can you see the screen?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, so I got the second pick. Let me just
pull the board up. Hold on, all right, there's the board.
So yeah, this is twenty second clock, so go a
little bit faster. So you got the thirty second. I
got the twenty second, and maybe maybe we'll finish around
the same time. We'll see. All right, So bitcoin is
picking first. Do you invest in bitcoin at all?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Ernie, I do not. I definitely I got.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You better get it, man, get those Sutoshi's going bro,
all right, So jamar Chase goes off the bat. Are
you noticing Chase? By this freaking clock is so damn fast.
I can't even think right now.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I know, Barkley, Yeah, I'm going Saquon. Yeah, I just
think you have like dude, like so, I'm a Giants fan, unfortunately,
and I always thought the Saquon injury prone claim was
it was always a joke because like his injuries were
more of like like he had like a rolled ankle,
you know, he had he discarries ACL the one year right,

(11:51):
He's not the only player tear in a c L.
It's uh, it's like usually like like I look for
like Christian McCaffrey when it's like always like a muscular
issue or something like that. So weird, I feel like
that's injury peronel. I think Barkley man, I think he's
a specimen. I think on that offense with that offensive line, man,
like you got, he's another.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
But if you pass on him right and then he.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
He does what he does again, you're gonna you're gonna
hate yourself, you know, So you kind of gotta be
a bet on him, you know. I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I don't think, I mean I don't. That's why I
don't like the twenty second clock. Now, if you're doing
a bunch of these, you're trying to fill the draft.
I know, dudes on here they draft like forties at once,
which is insane. They're definitely messing up the picks because
you get you're going crazy, especially if you're doing a
twenty second clock. But you want to when you're trying
to max out these besketball contests. You know a lot
of these guys are going one hundred and fifty entries. Yeah,

(12:44):
you know that's what these guys are doing. But you know,
thirty seconds give me some clarity, especially when I'm doing
a show. I mean, it's one thing if I'm you know,
by myself and I could just focus in twenty seconds,
I could do a lot better. But you know, I'm
doing a show. I'm trying to make content. You know, uh,
thirty seconds. I need at least thirty seconds. So we'll
get it done here. So yeah, off the board, Barkley

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and Jefferson, Lamb, Beijon Gibbs neighbors, genty goes eight, McCaffrey
to KOUA Saint Brown, Drake London A J. Brown. What's
the earliest you would take genty in a best of
all draft?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Honestly, man, I'm trying to avoid him this year. I
feel like his price is too inflated right now. I
I honestly again, I could sound like an idiot saying this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Amari and hamp didn't have
better production than him this year. Kind of similar to
Malik Neighbors of Marvin Harrison last year. Like if you
said that before the draft, people would.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Probably Thomas Brian Thomas right right.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
And the reality is is like the Chargers, man, like
they have a top five probably young offensive line, like
they have Staley and I'm sorry Slater and Alt which
is probably one of the better tackle tandems.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
In the league.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know, John was a Harborough wants to just absolutely
pound the football. So I like Hampton because he had
a good RADS score. He fun fact, Ryan actually told
me this on the last show. Harborough tried to recruit
Hampton out of high school to come to Michigan, but
he got him in the NFL. Now, so gente to me, dude,

(14:21):
I like him. I am an Ashton gent fan. If
you're not an Ashton Jenny fan, just go watch the
Ben State Boise State game, because he really proved all
the doubters wrong. But you look at the Raiders and
it's like they're probably the fourth best team in their division,
right now, you know, their offensive line is still a
work in progress. So I think he's gonna be a

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volume king his first year, but I don't know if
he has the team to really produce like elite elite numbers.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think he'll probably be like a strong RB two.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But again, I could be completely wrong because he is
a freak, so we'll say.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, I mean I watched Hampton. I thought he was good.
I didn't think he was like, I didn't think he
was anything special. That's just my opinion. But they also
have nause there, and I don't know if he's gonna
just take the job from nause I feel like, if anything,
it's kind of be a fifty to fifty split, you know,

(15:20):
you know, interesting on the horrorball thing. That's definitely something
I took Bucky Irving here in the second round. But yeah,
I mean I feel like Nausey man, he's kind of
like the guy never gets hurt. He's been in the
league for a long time, he's a veteran. I think
both guys are in a good situation there, you know,

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playing with horrorball. But yeah, I think I think that
I don't know if he's gonna outproduce gently. But I
see what you're saying that Genty could be going kind
of high, just like Harrison was. I only I did,
but you know, I do a lot of leagues, man,
I played in like fifty leagues last year, and I
only took Harrison in one league, right, And I astaltly
didn't feel good about it because I was getting him

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at the back end of the first round, you know,
I just I just didn't like, I didn't like the
price for Harrison.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think a lot of people were expecting him to
have like that Jamar Chase year one impact, right, And
I think that's why his like because the talent's there,
the pedigree is there, Like he is a very very
good wide receiver, and I think all of that together
just kind of made his price inflated. The reality is

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he's a rookie. He's going with Kyler Murray, right, Kyler Murray.
You know, it looks like he prefers the tight end.
So it was just it was it was a hard,
I feel like situation to navigate. You know, is easily
to be deceived because he has the He really does
have the talent to be an easy thousand plus yard

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receiver ten plus touchdowns, you know, So hopefully him and
Kyler figure it out this year. But I agree with you, man,
his price last year was way way too high. I
only found myself drafting him in a couple of leagues
when like my guy that I was targeting wasn't on
the board anymore.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, And I think Harrison, when I watched him, I
thought he lacked a little bit of explosiveness, Like, you know,
he's very smooth. Obviously he's got good size, but you know,
when you're in the NFL and you're playing against athletes
similar to your size, you've gotta gotta I just I
don't I think it was weird vibes in the beginning
to look like he was like losing interest out there

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almost and uh, and then he's paired with Kyler, who
is not like the most accurate guy. Like I feel
like Harrison would be better off with like a Stafford type,
somebody that could pinpoint.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Passes Herbert, you know, like a Herbert.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Or something like that. You know. So I don't know
if it's so, I don't know how much of a
leap he's gonna take up this year. I mean, what
he have like eight touchdowns, like eight hundred yards last year,
which isn't bad for a rookie, but you know, for
the first receiver overall, you're obviously expect the Neighbors type
numbers or Brian Thomas type numbers. So I don't know,
I mean, now what he's going like what in the

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fifth round? Now Harrison for the most part.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, man, I mean, I I agree with you where
it's I'm not chasing him this year either, because it's like, again,
you could bet on the talent, but it's like you
also got.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
To bet on the situation.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
And it's like, I don't know if I feel like
betting on Kyler Murray this year, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah? Yeah, And then you've got Trey McBride just eating
up freaking targets left and right, because monster, he is
a monster. Yeah, he's just.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
As good.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's I you know, I
pretty much agree with that. I think it's very very close.
You know, those two they're both beasts. I mean brock
Bowers and everybody was scared off of him last year
because the quarterback situation and Meyer was there DeVante Adams.
Once Devontae Adams was out of the way, it was
just like brock Bauers show all day long.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, floodgates open.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I was scared too because it was like Minshew or
was it O'Connell or were the kids? Yeah, so yeah
I was.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
But Brock Dower is QB proof.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It doesn't matter who's back there. That kid's open all.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Day every day.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
But yeah, he's a he's a monster. They're both really
fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you think about Travis Hunter?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
In the fourth round? Do you think that? Because I
felt like he was a better corner than a receiver,
but maybe he's equal in both parts. But what do
you What are your thoughts on Hunter this year?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, dude, so I actually agree with you, Like I
think he's a better corner than receiver. Like you know,
he was heavily recruited by Florida State. Florida State is
known to produce really good corners. So I'm personally I'm

(19:53):
out on Travis Hunter just because of that alone, and
too it's too much of like like it's too mury.
You know, I don't know how much corner he's gonna play.
I don't know how many snaps I receiver he's gonna play.
And also let's not just forget that they have Brian Thomas,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
But he's already said Collins, already said the office is
gonna run through him, And uh yeah. When I watched Thomas,
I just feel like, yeah, he's still gonna be the
alpha there no matter.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
What, without a doubt, man, because it's like, like, like
you you take that because first of all, he's playing
the act. So it's like the one thing is is
that they're gonna be playing two different positions. So a
lot of people they're gonna be like, Okay, well, in
certain Liam Cohen's offense from Tampa Bay. So you'll see
Tooton get compared to Bucky, right, You'll see Brian Thomas

(20:46):
get compared to Mike Evans, and then you're gonna get
Travis compared to Chris Godwin.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
That's what people think is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And it logically makes sense because this is the same
offensive coordinator from Tampa Bay. I just it's again, it's
like Travis Hunter is gonna have to come out and
get a Chris god will never workload, right, And there
are concerns about, like you watch the the videos on
Twitter recently of him running raps, you know what I mean.

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And it's like, Okay, he's kind of kind of feeling
like a real gamble, you know, where it's like, hey,
if it hits like you know, let's say they play
him deploy the more as a receiver and he's a
slot machine and he's a PPR monster, then.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know it was a great pick.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But it's like, do you feel I personally don't feel
like comfortable gambling on that year one?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, and you know Lawrence kind of has THW issues too,
and Brian Thomas, I mean, the dude was going off
with Mac Jones. Lawrence didn't matter who was back there.
Is Hunter gonna be able to do the same thing?
I don't know, but yeah, I mean I play in
enough leagues where I'm gonna take some shots on Hunter,
and certainly it's early in the process. Now I'll go

(21:56):
back and watch Hunter again more and more, and you know,
maybe I'll change my value obviously. You know, you pay
attention to what happens in camp. Uh you know, you
see what how much they actually are going to use him,
because I would think they they're gonna want to use
him at Corner right. I mean, he's not just exclusively
play receiver. Do you think he's I mean, I don't
know if I if you if you answered that earlier,
but I just feel like it would be smart to

(22:17):
get him at corner because he's so good there.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, I I agree with you, man, Like I like,
it's kind of like what I was saying before, Like.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
You look at when he was recruited.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
He was really heavily recruited by Florida State and they
wanted him to be a corner, and Florida State produces
really good NFL corners, so then he kind of, you know,
went with Dion and they're like, well, this kid's a freak.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
We could use them both ways.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
And that's that's the thing where it's like part of
me believes he's going to be a better corner than
he is wide receiver. But then also you got to
take an consideration like, bro, he's a human being, so
he's not playing one hundred percent of snaps on defense
and offense, So how are they going to divide that up?
You know what I mean? So again, I don't like,

(23:01):
I don't think he's going to be the show showy
Otani of the NFL. I don't think so you know
what I mean, It's it really is tricky to navigate
because the upside and all that is, you know, tantalizing. Right.
But if he got drafted as a receiver and they're like, hey,
he's gonna play my Chris Godwin role, then I'd probably

(23:24):
be more implying. Right now, I just don't know how
much receiver he's playing, yeah, and how much it happens
to Brian Thomas is gonna eat up with the targets,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
It sounds like they want to use him at receiver.
I just I just don't know. You know, I'm gonna
take Mark Andrews here, So I got one more pick
coming up. Then we'll go over your team what you
got so far, and then we'll go over my team
what I got so far. We'll kind of analyze it.
How many rounds you threw so far on your side.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I wish we were drafted together, man, It's like I'm
like looking up trying to hold the conversation. We do
all drafted.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I mean we can, we can, we can start drafting together.
If you want, we could just split this team.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
We could you finish it off for sure, Let's do
that I'm on round nine.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
We just got to nine.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, let me just make this pick. I'm jumping the
gun here.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
This word is so much different than DraftKings. It's crazy,
all right.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So so yeah, I'm through seven rounds. I have Josh
Allen Barkley, Bucky Jamison, Williams, A Flowers, Andrews, and I
didn't want to take Ingram but the twenty second clock,
so I got Andrews and Ingram, which isn't bad. You know,
I got two solid tight ends. I don't have the
same bye week twelve and seven, so that's good as well.

(24:41):
What do you got on your end?

Speaker 5 (24:43):
So right now, let me pull up my team.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
All right. So I got Nico Brockbauers, Hampton Harvey, Kenneth Walker, Traveon,
hen Anderson, Josh Downs, and Trey Harris.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like you got you got a couple of rookies there. Man,
What do you think about h? R? J? Harvey? Think
he's legit, he's the real deal, and he's gonna shine
in Denver because the rest of the running backs their stinks.
So I mean that's I kind of liked estimate and
he's a different type of back anyway. But what do
you think of Harvey?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, dude, so great point on Smate too, because I'm
an estimate guy. But I would.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Jersey Saint Joe's Montfield though, Yeah I would.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I would draft r J. Harvey like full confidence, Like
you know this kid is going to play Sean Payton's
joker role. Right.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
He was hand picked by Peyton.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think Peyton's primary target at running back, if I
was a mistake, was Travon Henderson.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Obviously that m pan out.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Patriots took him pretty early in the second round, so
they got their other guy. Also, I thought it was
interesting Gladstone and Liam Cullen were also targeting our J. Harvey, Right,
so you know a lot of good offensive mines one
of this kid. You look at RJ. Harvey, he's like
the same size as Ashton Genty. Literally, I think Genty
might be a couple pounds out of year. So a

(26:12):
lot of people are concerned about the size. I'm not, man,
I think the upside, the talent, the role that he's entering,
I'm going to explode year one. The only concern is
he's like, well this is more for Dynasty. He's an
older rookie. He's twenty four, right, So that is a
little old because think about it, by his second contract,

(26:32):
he's going to be twenty eight. You know, running backs
usually fall off around twenty nine to thirty, So really
actually twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
But sorry, I'm just making my pick real quick. I
absolutely love r J.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Harvey this year. I think the hype is real. I
think a lot of people are on to you know,
this is going to be the guy that plays the
album Kamara role, and yet he really would just have
to lack talent to not produce in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do you think he's better than Bucky Irving or he's
not as good as Bucky Irving?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, Bucky is obviously interesting, right because he just had
such a crazy rookie season and now it's like will
he do it again with a new offensive coordinator? That's
my only concern about him. So right now, obviously I
have to go with Bucky Irving, right, just because he's
done in the NFL. Right, But I would not be

(27:45):
surprised when this season's over. Like in PPR, if r J.
Harvey flirts with top ten running back numbers, I really don't.
I yeah, dude, I mean I think he's going to
enter a monster workload, like he's going to carry the ball,
He's gonna catch the ball. He is an insane receiver, dude.
I watched him play at you you see F a lot.

(28:08):
His overprophet was so funny, man, because it would always
be something ridiculous like one point thirty and the kids
like has like one hundred and eighty eight yards, Like
he was a dude. So I am again it's all
like the fantasy's fun man, because it's educated guesses. That's
all it is. Like, you know, you're you're taking a
guest on this guy, you know, producing at a level

(28:29):
you expect.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And I am buying r J.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Harvey. I think he will be one of the rookie
stories looking back where it's like why why didn't I
buy more of him? You know, it makes it makes
too much sense, But yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, that's interesting. Makes you guys are liking subscribing to
the show. Are you in on RJ. Harvey as much
as Ernie is this year? Or are you staying away
while you were talking about RJ. By the way, you
see F that's like an hour from me. It's a
real easy drive. I went to one of the college
basketball games. I watched them play Houston two years ago,

(29:04):
which was fun, But I want to get to some
of their football games this year for sure. Oh yeah,
it's an easy drive and yeah it's uh. I definitely
got to check it. I'm mad that I didn't get
to see RJ. Harvey last year, but I took Trey Harris.
I could have took Abuka, but I took Harris. What
do you think about that? Over a bit?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Dude? I love that so much. So I am an
a Buka fan Ohio State receiver. So the pedigree is there.
You know, you look at all the the Ohio State
that there's like there's two wide receiver universities. There's LSU
and Ohio State, right, and he goes into an awesome
landing spot. But it's like he's more of a dynasty

(29:47):
play because you still have Chris Godwin there, you still
have Mike Evans rights killing.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Everybody's discounting Jalen McMillan like he's just going to disappear.
I thought he looked pretty damn good, and to me,
I think he might be the best receiver he came
out of Washington.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh yeah, I mean McMillan's a stud too. Their GM,
he's a savage. I love the Bucks GM. My thing
is this is that I think Iguka is like a
next year play like. I think he'll be like kind
of like a JSN where he'll have his like year
two explosion. Trey Harris. So here's why.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I am a huge Trey Harris. Stan he was.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
He's easily, probably if not my, one of my favorite
receivers in college football. He was leading the country in
like so many categories before he got hurt this year,
and during the draft, Harbaugh wanted to take him with
the first round pick they had. That's how much he
likes Trey Harris. And what happened was Horace Who's awesome

(30:49):
GM Hoorence goes, no, listen, we can still take our
boy Hampton and we'll get Trey Harris round two. Trust
our team, trust our analytics, like we did our homework.
Trey Harris should be there, right, and they did a
really good job because you know he was. And now
when you think about it, Lad McConkie, who I love.
I was.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I was in on Lad McConkey last year. He plays
the slot role.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So think about it this way, back like you go
back a few years ago when you had Keenan Allen
and Mike Williams in their prime. Well, so you have
Keenan Allen the slot. Now you have Trey Harris playing
the Mike Williams role. And Trey Harris is a stud man.
So I think this kid year one is going to
get a monster like. I think he gets a monster

(31:36):
target share. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one
of the rookie receivers that cracks a thousand yards his
first year. I really do. I think Herbert is a
very underrated quarterback. I think they're craving an X receiver,
you know, right, and they're going to start eric Vin Johnson.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, he just he just drops too many balls
and he's just he's not reliable. So I hate to
say it, but he just hasn't been fully reliable. He
shows flashes, But yeah, man, no, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm I'm personally I'm out on Quinton Johnston.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I was in on him his rookie year when he
first came out because of the landing spot. I didn't
like the talent, but I'm like, oh, man, like justin
Herbert Ax receiver. You know, the room was getting kind
of drying up, and I was like, I'm in you know,

(32:31):
But now that that's why I love Trey Harris because
I think they finally got a really good talent to
fit that role. Somebody that's not going to drop the ball,
I make boneheaded plays like this.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
This kid is legit.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
You look up his advanced analytics. He's like first in everything.
So I think the Chargers hit a grand slam. I
think they crushed the draft. I think they're going to
be a team that takes off this year. Again. I
could be completely wrong, and he could be another Trey Harris, right.
I just think there's too much upside to like here
for me personally to pass off.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, tell me to raise up the draft board. Thank you, brother. Yeah,
I am team too. So I took Keon Coleman to
pair him with Josh Allen. Now I'm not the biggest
Keyon Coleman guy, but I wanted at least one stack there.
Thanks Scott. I did raise up the draft board.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
And then I took Travis Etn. Everybody's assuming this dude
Tooton is gonna come in and take Etn's job, or
you know, obviously you know they have other guys, But
what do you think about Etn and uh, do you
think he's gonna play that bucket role or do you
think it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Toot I I I actually I'm gonna go against you here.
I do think it's gonna be touted, only because you
look at Etn where he's at. He's at the end
of his contract, right, the new regime doesn't really have
an obligation to him. You know, Tank Bigsby is solid,
but he has fumbling issues, and we're targeting r. J.

(34:02):
Harvey if he was there in the beginning of the
third round, which already tells me it's like, why are
you drafting RJ. Harvey? If you trust what you have
you don't. So again I'm just guessing educated guests. You
you know, Liam Cohen gets there. You know, Touton was
still a hand picked running back who they liked. They
had them high on their board. So I think he's

(34:24):
gonna come in, he's gonna play. I don't know. I
think it's gonna They're definitely gonna have a committee week one, right,
and that's really gonna decide everything. Like if you're a
Traves Etn guy, you have to pray that Week one
he balls out and hopefully that you know, bringing in
tuning and just pissed him off. And he's in a
contract year and now he plays out of his mind, right,

(34:44):
But I think you're gonna see a lot of tut
in you know, week one. And I mean, dude, this
kid is two hundred and ten pounds and runs a
four to three.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Like he's not He's not something to sneeze at.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
So the Jaguars backfield, for me, it's like I've been
avoiding unless like Tooton is there kind of like in
a range that I like, or like there's guys that
I don't like, guys that I like aren't there, then
I'll take tune. But that that's just me personally.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I could see Travis Etn making me look like an
idiot and being a monster this year.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Okay, these receivers up here, I got McMillan, Noel, Quinton Johnson,
Josh Palmer. Remember I got Josh Allen Stedric Tillman kind
of like that one Yes Xavier to get Romeo Dobbs.
I kind of like the Tilman here.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I take the Yes Tilman.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Bro he was breaking. He was breaking out until he
you know, he got hurt and didn't play the rest
of the year. Now, who the hell is going to
be the quarterback there? It's freaking Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel,
Schador Sanders, you know, maybe Watson comes back week eleven,
who the hell knows. But who do you think is
gonna win that job? I kind of think that Flacco
is gonna start like the first couple of games, and

(35:55):
then maybe he'll throw a couple of picks and then
they'll probably either go to Sanders or Gabriel. What do
you think?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, dude, So I think it will be Joey cool
mister Fla And I think that's great for Jerry Judy
and Cedric Tillman. Then for sure he.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Puts up he helps guys put up Fantasy numbers for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah. So like another guy I'm in on this year,
I have a couple of guys that I think have
crazy talent, but nobody has seen it yet because they
haven't really produced in fantasy. And that's Josh Downs And
how like my argument for that would be, look at
his numbers. When Joe Flacco took over, right, he was

(36:35):
a solid fantasy wide receiver. So I think Jerry Judy
is gonna benefit from it. I definitely think Tilman's gonna
benefit from it. I love Cedric Tildman since his Tennessee days.
I think he's a big, nice x receiver. He does
remind me of Nico Collins, right. He might not be
as great of a route runner, but he does a
lot of things similar to Nico. And you hit it

(36:56):
on the head like he was in the middle of
a breakout before he got hurt.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
So yeah, I'm definitely in on him.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And then again, you know, you got to respect at
least with the Browns, like they're taking multiple shots on
the quarterback position. You know, they they didn't like anybody
early enough to take them with their second overall pick,
so they traded out and you know, traded back to
five and took the best player available that they had
on their board. But they took a lot of quarterbacks later,

(37:23):
you know, Gabriel Shador. So we'll see, you know, because again,
one of those kids could end up being something, you know, solid, right,
and then they could come in if the Browns are
you know, two and nine at the buy or whenever
their buy is I would imagine they're going to try
to take a look at one of the younger guys
that they like to see if they have somebody to

(37:44):
build around, or they got to they got to look
for a quarterback in the upcoming draft.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah. By the way, you know, since we got split up,
we'll split this team regardless, so we'll we'll track it
all year see how it does. Running back, I got
four running back We got four running backs, Barkley Irving,
Brian Roon, Junior, ETN. Who do you we got al
Gier on the board, Dowdle, Dylan Sampson, Rosehawn, Jalen Roy,
Devin Neil rookie. Uh, what do you think about? You know,

(38:11):
what do you think about Devin Neil? Or maybe JK.
Dobbins signs in a good spot? What do you think if.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You're looking for like a running back in this range
and this guy's probably like I love jar Quez Hunter, so.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I have him on my cue as well. I like
him too. He kind of reminds me of Dobbin's, like
Kiren the way he runs too.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, dude, Like I love jar Quez. So I every Saturday, man,
I'm watching college football and my go to's are sec
or Big ten, mainly Sec. He was a beast at
Auburn this year. Like he is just an athletic freak.
I was actually reading about him. He's like, he's five nine,

(38:51):
he can dunk a basketball. He squats six hundred pounds,
so he's a freak of nature. And you look at
him when he runs, he just runs through tackles and
he just accelerates man likes. He's really fun player to watch.
And why I am big on him is because I

(39:12):
loved Blake Korum. I was a big Blake Kuorum guy.
And when the Rams took him, I got excited because
Kyron Williams is a great pick, but he was a
fifth round pick, right, His rad score isn't crazy. There
was a lot of wear and tear, so you thought, like, okay,
like the Rams being a smart team, they're going to

(39:32):
draft a running back to replace Kyron.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
So they don't have to pay him. But then you
saw that this year where it's like.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
If they believed in Korum, they would have played no
more right, and ultimately they did it. So the Rams
had no business drafting or running back this year. You know,
you could argue Kyron and Blake is a good RB room.
But this was a very good running back class and
it was very deep and I can't stress this enough.

(40:01):
Good players fell like there were there were running backs
going in the fourth round that would go Day two
on a normal year, and Jarquez Hunter is one of them.
And the Rams you Know less Need is probably one
of my favorite gms like him and McVeigh are an
awesome tag team, one of the smarter teams. Teams that
draft very good late. We're like, Yo, we like this

(40:23):
running back so much, we're gonna trade back up for
him in the fourth round, you know. So to me,
that sounds like not only insurance, but it sounds like
a player that they're gonna come in and give touches
right away. I think a lot of these teams are
going to try to go with this committee approach. But
I think Jarquez, similar to Bucky last year, like the

(40:45):
plate might start out small, but I think he'll get
more touches as a year goes on. And when you're
looking at these running backs this late, they're all like handcuffs.
I think Jarquez has the highest upside of any of them.
I really, I really do. I think the misstud if
Kyron goes down or you know they're there this Tyrone's air,

(41:06):
you know, because again he is in a contract year,
so we'll see. The Rams are a smart team, and
I think they targeted him for a reason. I do.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, Yeah, Kiren's taken. He's taken a lot of punishment
the past couple of years, so I could see them
mixing in Jarqus, and I kind of like Jarques better
than I like Korum the way the way they to,
the way those two plays. So yeah, I'm gonna go
up there a little bit of Jarquez. I did take him.
We got a question in here from Tyston Carter, London,

(41:35):
Ladd or Nico to eleven spot in Dynasty. Who are
you taking.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Nat Uh in Dynasty? Yeah, so then I'm I wouldn't
take lad because I think Ladd's price great player. I
think his price is a little inflated right now. I
would definitely go Nico or London if you're looking to
build a more youthful team, London, but if you want
to but you know, just go for like the Juggular

(42:02):
this year, I would take Nico.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I think Nico is again, I think he's.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
A top five fantasy receiver in Fantasy football without a doubt.
I think if he didn't get hurt, he would have
easily finished in the top three. So and again, he's
like twenty five. Nico is not really old, so you're
gonna get, you know, a good amount of years out
of him. So it's really a toss up between London
and Nico. I am a huge Nico Collins fan, so

(42:28):
I'm gonna slightly lean Nico, but Drake London is a
phenomenal pick.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
If you want to go that route too.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I definitely I value those two way more than I
do Ladma Comky for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Okay, yeah, that's close. I mean I love lad coming
out last year. Nico's a stud London. Now we'll see
how Penix works with him. That is close, But I
don't mind going Nico there as well. All right, we're up.
The clock is so damn fast, not even trying to
freaking Do you like elk Amma nor from uh Stanford?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Love him? Dude?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It's a weird like sink right now, dude.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I took him.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I took him perfect, dude.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I mean it seems like you love all most of
the rookies, bro, I haven't had one rookie you haven't
liked yet.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh yeah, dude, So I got, I got so. I
when when the drafts over, I go through all the
offensive rookies that are picked right and then I kind of,
you know, have my favorites, and I have my I
have my favorites throughout every round. Like you know, I've
been like, there's a six round rookie I like this year,
Joe Horn, and I.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Like, I like what I saw on him a little
bit too. Is he Joe Horn's son?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I have no idea ude, I think that's dude, I thought, But.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I love Joe Horn man.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, no, he he again like Carolina, the only slot
receiver they have is stealing but he's like thirty five,
you know, so he's up there. I'd imagine he's retiring
any day now. And you know, they just drafted Tech.
But that receiving room is really lacking good receivers. And

(44:05):
Joe Horn right now apparently is you know, tearing up
the practices that they've held for the rookies. And I
do believe that the Carolina receivers, like you know, there
was Lejonte Wester, Joe Horn. I think these guys were
underrated receivers. They had really good boats. So yeah, man,
I there's rookies. I like in every round, I try

(44:29):
to get ahead of the curve before, like you know,
everybody else, because again it's like, if you're correct on
these rookies, you know, and you had a strong first
half of year draft, and then you hit on these
rookies that actually produce year one, what's your probability of winning?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
You know, that's my logic, That's how I look on it.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You know, yeah, I think I think two years. I
don't know what the data says this last from last year,
but I remember two years ago, I think it was
like most of the time teams and the underdog basketball Mania.
I think they had like seven guys that were either
seven or eight guys that were rookies or sophomores combined.
So you know, you definitely want to mix in rookies.

(45:11):
Sometimes you don't want to mix in too much. But
I mean there's you know, every year, the forum is
gonna change a little bit. Last year it was like
everybody got to get the receivers and that totally switched
up to the running backs. So you know, just play
enough of these play as many as you can you
know under your budget, and again Underdog has the three dollars,
they have the ten dollars. You know, they have tons
of different things going on. Drafters hasna be doing some

(45:33):
Drafters DraftKings as tournaments as well. But you mix it
up the best you can. And you know, obviously if
you have the time to go back and watch these
players from last year, you know, the veterans and even
the rookies. You know, now with YouTube you could watch
as much as possible, and you got the analytics left
and right all over the place, so you do as
much research you can. You come on this show, you
listen to Ernie breakdown the rookies as well, and then

(45:56):
you know, you make your decisions. All right, we got
one pick left. I don't know if there's a guy
in mine. Do you like Devin Neil at all, Brashard Smith?
What do you think about him? I kind of like
he kind of reminds me of McKinnon.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yes, yeah, dude, I would take the Breshard Smith start
throw there, because get into Devin Neil is good, but
he's playing behind Kamara. They do have Kendrey Miller. I
don't know, like you know, I used to be a
Kendre Miller. Stand. I think he's a little too injury
prone for the NFL, But there's some bodies in front

(46:31):
of him, is what I'm getting at now. Withhard What
makes Bishard interesting is we know that the Chiefs could
hit on late running backs. They did with Pachecto, right,
but that running back room is really stale right now,
you know, and they're looking for some electric weapons and
I think you hit it on the head, dude, Jack McKinnon. Right,
That's exactly what I'm thinking. But Brashard smith Man, he's

(46:54):
no slops like. He can run the rock too, So
I think Andy Reid's gonna have a lot of fun
with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he, you know,
out of those late running backs, if one were to
produce for the first year, I could definitely see it
being smith because they are lacking a receiving running back
right now. So I think he's the much better pick

(47:16):
over our Devin Neil based on their situations.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, I mean I was surprised he fell to the
seventh round based off what I saw out of him.
And you know, he was a receiver at Miami and
he played for SMU and it looks like he plays
with a lot of energy, and he's got some strength
in his legs for an undersized guy. And he's a
good receiver. He can go up and get it. He's
fast as hell when he ran a fourth right, So

(47:44):
so yeah, I like him a lot. I feel like
when I watched him, he's like that he's gonna play
that Jarreck mckinnerroll because Hunt's getting older. But Checko can't
really play that role now. But Checko had that that
injury last year. I think he'll be a lot better,
uh coming off that injury. But I mean even he
was a seventh round pick. So yeah, man, I do
like Brashard Smith. So we end up I only have six.
We only have six receivers. I would have liked to

(48:06):
get one more. That's why I was saying, I like
the twenty rounds of dk uh, and our receivers aren't
really that strong. But again, we'll we'll do more of these. We'll, we'll, we'll,
you know, we'll, we'll build some strong teams. Uh, but
the team is Josh Allen. I took cam Ward. We'll
get your thoughts on cam Ward in a minute.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Then sat Kwon Barkley, Bucky Irving, Brian Robinson Junior, Travis
etn Jarquiz Hunter, Marshawn Lloyd, get your thoughts on him too.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Jamison Williams, Za Flowers, Trey Harris Keyank Colemann, Cedric Tillman,
and elk a Oman or that's how you pronounced it,
Mark andrews everon Ingram Isaiah Likely. Uh so, what do
you think about cam Ward? I mean, when I watched him,
he definitely looks like the best, you know quarterback obviously
in the class accurate. He doesn't really like to run

(48:58):
unless he has to, like like he does. He likes
to stay in the pocket and just deliver the ball,
which is kind of cool. But he can run, He's
not like an elite runner, but he can move when
he kind of has to. But he just kind of
likes to stay in the pocket and deliver. And I
feel like he could really just keep getting better and
better and better as his career goes on. What do
you think about camp Ward?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah? Man, No, he's I like him, you know, I
I uh uh. This year when the buzz was about him,
merciador I was all team can you know this kid
was a zero star recruit. He really worked his way
up to where he got to. Nothing was given to him,

(49:40):
you know. Uh, and you watch the highlights this year.
There are some things that scare you, you know, but
there's a lot to like.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
He has a really big arm, he's really accurate, and
I do think he could have a big impact year one.
That's why I think I I kind of like Calvin
Ridley this year. His price tag is kind of low
and he could be this year's Terry McLaurin. Right, if
cam Ward is who we think he is, right, he's

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got to throw the ball to somebody. I think those
two people are gonna be Calvin Ridley and E Leak.
I think the Leak from Stanford is I don't know
how he fell in the fourth round. I know he
was invited to the Senior Bowl and he didn't go,
so that might have affected his.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Stock, But I really felt like he was a day
too talent.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
So yeah, man, I think cam Ward could have a
sneaky good year. Man.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
The upside is there and he should be fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, what do you think? What kind of year you
think he's gonna have? I mean, doesn't some Mike again
doesn't like to run a ton, so like a CJ.
Stroud type, like I don't know, maybe like twenty eight touchdowns,
like you see him throwing like thirty touchdowns in his
rookie year, or like more like twenty five, twenty sixthing
like that.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I think, yeah, somewhere between twenty to thirty.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
You know, I think his floor is closer to, you know,
the twenty range, and then you know, his ceiling would
probably be thirty. You know. Again, they only got thirty
one year old Calvin Ridley and then a bunch of rookies,
so it's gonna be hard for him to put on.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
They got locked. They do have lock They do have
locket too.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Lock if he's another how how old is he though
he's got.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Thirty two, thirty three? Yeah, but he's a veteran. I
mean he could still he's still gonna be tough to
get out of there, you know, you know what I'm saying.
And Traylon Burks, I mean, he just cannot stay healthy.
He can't develop because he can't stay in the field.
They got some good tight ends though. I like Chig.
I kind of like Josh Wile and Gunner Helm doesn't

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seem bad either, So they got a pretty good tight
end room there.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I agree. Uh, gunner Helm funny story about him. So
he ran that horrible forty where he ran like a
forty eight. I found out actually recently he was running
with a sprained ankle. There was a picture of cankle.
It was completely purple. It actually kind of made me
like him more because it's like, damn, like this tough
as hell where he was like I don't care, I'm running,

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you know. So the Titans might have got a still there.
You know. He was a really good prospect at Texas,
so I agree with you there, and chicks got juice.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
So yeah, he started to come on a little bit
towards the end of last year. Yeah, finally like they
started to finally use him because he's a he's pretty freakish.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah man, Yeah, he's he's a stud. He one of
them is gonna have to emerge, I would imagine, you know,
and I do think Kim Ward will be a solid
NFL quarterback. So you're gonna see some of these guys pop.
You know. It's kind of like you look at these
fantasy offenses that you know they're fun to pick from

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because it's like I feel like the Titans are one
of them, you know where It's like, say you draft
Calvin Ridley, like I was saying before, cam.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Ward is legit, Well you probably just.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Got what a top fifteen Fantasy wide receiver because he's
his number one this year. You know, so a lot
of a lot of guys you can get for cheap.
Take Darth throws on later.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
All right, I mentioned Marshall and Lloyd. I liked him
a lot. I thought that he was gonna be a
thing last year in Green Bay, and he just could not,
similar to Kendrey Miller, who could never stay healthy and
then he got thrown like the doghouse. Who the hell
was the Saints coach last year, Dennis Allen, he hated
Kendrick Miller's guts. He was like keeping him in the

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freaking basement. And then once Dennis Allen got canned, you know,
Kendrey Miller came out of the basement and started to
play a little bit. But you know, similar to Marshall
on Lloyd badfoot is in his rookie season and I
like his talent a lot. I feel like as a
late beastball pick, you know which could end up being
a good situation if you ever get some usage. What

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do you think?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, I cletely agree with you. I like Marshall Lloyd
last year. He was really good player at USC. They
drafted him in the third round, which was interesting because
they just paid Josh Jacobs. The reason why I agree
with you and I did think that was a very
sneaky good pick is because if you look at Josh Jacobs,
he is kind of annoyingly injury prone where he misses

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games every year, you know, or what that's what at
least feels like, you know, he is up there now.
I think he's twenty seven, gonna be twenty eight, right,
and he's a go ahead eight and he's a heavy
volume guy, you know, like Josh Jacobs, a lot of
his fantasy points came off of touchdowns, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
So again, Marshall Woyde is a younger back. He's going
to bring a lot of juice.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
So you know, he's really like, you know, Josh Jacobs
goes down and this kid's finally healthy and he gets
an opportunity, you know, he might force himself into you know,
sharing snaps with Jacobs eventually, So it really comes down
to Jacobs his health where he's at with his you know,
physical ability, but he is.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Getting up there.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And again, you know, I think these teams they're drafting
these running backs for a reason. You know, I think
when you make a big investment into a Josh Jacobs,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Think the Packers are stupid.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I think they could see what I see in that
this guy, you know, is the probability of him missing
some games is high. So Lloyd is the insurance policy.
And I think I think he's a really good one man.
You know, I think it was unfortunate that he was
fired last year. He didn't really get to show off
his skills. But you know, if he's healthy, he is
a little bit of a threat without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, Jacobs was kind of weird with him because he
never really like you know, you know, he was always
like a thousand yard guy. Did have twelve touchdowns in
twenty twenty and then you know, again you were kind
of right, thirteen games, fifteen games, fifteen games. But then
twenty twenty two he had that monster season ye sixteen
hundred yards, twelve touchdowns, played all seventeen games, three hundred

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and forty carries. Then everybody chased them next year and
got burnt, and then everybody was off of him going
to Green Bay, which was a much better situation. And
then sometimes you got to just look at the situation
makes all the different. Same thing with Saquon, you know,
so he go, he goes into a great situation. Three
hundred carries, thirteen hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns. But yeah, you're right,

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I mean three hundred and forty, three hundred and forty
carry season. Now, with three hundred carry season, it would
make sense to try to get marshall On a little
bit involved. But they have the other running back. His
name is escaping me, Manuel Wilson. He's not bad either,
so we'll see. But I would expect, you know, Marshaan
to kind of take a little bit of a step up.

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But this was fun, man, real quick, go over your team.
I want to see how it ended up. But I
hope you didn't neglect too much when you were drafting
the dude.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
It actually it is terrible, multitask. I actually I don't
know how it has happened. I got way too many
running backs and not enough receivers. But I'll run I'll
run through it from quarterback down. So quarterback rooms, I
usually go three or four quarterback because I feel like,
you know, if you got three or four every week,

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you have a good shot getting a QB one number, right,
So I went Trevor Lawrence. I like Trevor Lawrence this year.
I think he has a bounce. I think he has
kind of like a breakout. You know, he has Brian Thomas.
They just invested in Travis Hunter, so you know we
were talking about that earlier in the show. How much
will he play at wide Rehoover, I don't know, but

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he is going to play some snaps there at least.
And they got Liam Cohen, who I am a fan of.
I think the offense will be better. I don't think
the defense is in the AFC South are that good
outside of Houston's. So I like Trevor Lawrence this year.
Next quarterback I took was Matt Stafford. Another team in
really Bullshawn is the Rams. They just got Devanta Adams.

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They have poop in Nakua. They drafted Terrence Ferguson, who
is a stud in the second round, but they're gonna
pair him with Tyler Higbee, so they have a strong
tight end room this year the Rams, man, Dude, if
they if the Eagles didn't have Saquon Barkley, you know,
you can make it argue with the Rams are gonna
win that game, you know, and if Kyrak Williams does

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and fumble the ball, which is probably why they draft
the dark best hunter, you know, the Rams are in
the Super Bowl. So Rams are a great team, man.
I think you know that's why the Rams didn't let
Matt Stafford go this year the Giants.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
There was other teams trying to pull Matt Stafford away.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
That was ridiculous like that, all those rumors like how
is he wherehere is he going to go? I mean,
the Rams are gonna start over all of a sudden.
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
He's not, dude, I'm a Giant fan. He wasn't gonna
come to this clown there because.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, no, definitely not. Yeah, that would that would make
no sense for him. Why would you leave a team
and then yeah, go to the Giants and career go
from one coast to the other.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You forget it, like I would. Why would you go
from less Nei to Sean McVay to that situation and
just beats me? But so he stays in the Rams.
I think, again, you're talking about value. I got him
I pick one fifty eight. You know, I love that
because I think you're gonna get potentially a top ten

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fantasy quarterback really late. Then my next quarterback is Sam Donald.
I'm a Sam Donald truther. I was in on him
last year. I always thought, you know, good solid quarterback,
just unfortunately got drafted by the Jets, and the Jets
and Giants are just terrible teams, you know, so I
was just like, you know, my logic was, wow, you know,

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justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, good offensive line, great offensive minded coach,
and Kevin O'Connell. Like, I think there could be some
fireworks this year. And now he goes after a breakout season,
he gets a good contract with Seattle. I do like Seattle.
They got JSN, they drafted a Royo in the second round,
they got Cooper Cup, so he's got some weapons there.

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I think if you're looking for a value quarterback, Sam
Donald is solid. He'll finish top fifteen this year. And
then this was like my last pick. Again, I'm probably
gonna get booed for this one, but I took Daniel Jones.
I do think Daniel Jones does win that job Indianapolis.
I do think Daniel Jones wasn't as bad as people think.

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Coming from somebody that watches the games, I'm a massive
critic of the Giants. Giants are a horrible team, man Like,
I don't think people understand like how bad they are.
Their offensive line is horrible. Brian David I think is
kind of overrated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Well, yeah, I think I think he wrote Josh Allen's
coattails a little too much there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
One hundred percent, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
And the reality is is like you know, when I
talk to NFL fans, you know, at the end of
the day, I understand what Daniel Jones numbers are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I understand what the win and lost colums look like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I get it. But there's just a little bit more
that goes into that. But unfortunately the quarterback is the
one that gets the blame. I do like him this year.
I think he is a better quarterback than Anthony Richardson.
I like Shane Steiken. The Colts have an awesome offensive line.
They have really good weapons. So if you're looking for,
you know, a dart throw late for a quarterback with
a lot offside I like Daniel Jones. Then to my

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running backs, I'll try to go through quick. I took
a Marion Hampton, R J. Harvey, Kenny Walker, Traveon Henderson
to him, and Jarkwise Hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Okay, yeah, we talked about all those guys. Kenny Walker man,
by the way, I'm rooting for Richardson to win that job.
I think he's a good late upside pick. He doesn't
really cost you much. But yeah, I mean he could.
He could lose that job to Daniel Jones. It is possible.
And I didn't like Donald. I didn't want him on
the Jets. I wanted the Jets to take Josh Allen,

(01:01:31):
So that's why I was pissed about that. But yeah,
Donald Donald really had a great season last year, with
no doubt about it. He really, and the Jets definitely
ruined him, just like they ruined Geno Smith. You know,
it's a terrible organization. But yeah, Kenny Walker man, he's
in a great situation. He just needs to stay healthy.
But I love him a hundred. I couldn't agree more.

(01:01:52):
You Actually, you look at Kenny Walker. He was the
second highest graded uh PFF running back last year. So
it's like I'm like, dude, if this kid can just
stay healthy, and I think this is the year. You know,
let's hope he puts it all together, because if you
get him for seventeen games, you're getting a solid RB
one easily.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I'm a big camp Balker fan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, And you know, sometimes these running backs, you know
they're younger, like Saquon, like CMC. They get a few
years in the league, they learn how to you know,
adapt better, they learn how to take care of their
body better, they chase their diets up. So, uh, you know,
maybe that's the case for Kendy Walker here. Yeah, you know,
you can't just assume he's gonna get hurt every freaking
single year. And you gotta bet on talent. You can't

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be scared. You gotta bet on talent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Look, if he was going in the third round, that
might be a little too expensive for me, right, But
when you're getting him in you know, the fifth round,
that's absurd. Man. Like, I agree with you, Like, you know,
they're not gonna be hurt every year. You know, you
got you gotta take a shot at the side, and
I think the upside is too much to pass on

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for me at least.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, all right, who do you got a receiver?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
So receiver, I went Nico, that's my number one. Then
I got Josh Downs and I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Think now the solid He's definitely really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Solid, dude. He is my Kenny Walker of wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
He's a What do you think about the presence of
Tyler Warren? Now though you think that takes away from
Downs a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
No, I do not. I think in Stiking's offense, you're
gonna see the slot and the tight end are gonna
eat like you go back to his Philly days later,
the guys that really did benefit from his offense. I
think Tyler Warren is gonna help the receivers more than
hurt them, because now it's going to open up everybody.

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You can't really just focus on one receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
It's about time the Colts use one damn tight end too.
They've used like sixteen tight ends for like the last
seven years. Moley Cox still there. I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, yeah, you hit it on the head one hundred,
said Josh Downs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Man Like he is Mike Kenny Walker of wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Dude. It's like if this kid can get a quarterback,
like if you're right where it's like Anthony Richardson is
the one that takes the step, or I'm right where
it's like Daniel Jones takes a step in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Josh Downs is going to benefit from it, like and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
He I will say this, the second he gets decent
quarterback numbers, he has a lock for top twenty PPR
wide receiver without a doubt in my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And I think you'll see that this year. I really do.
I'm a big job.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
We started the year last year with that high ankle,
so he missed like the first four or five games, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, he looked awesome in OTAs him and Anthony Richardson
were apparently building like a really strong rapport.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I mean, I Richardson and him were connecting a little bit.
You know. It's just Richardson can't stand in the field.
That's his issue too. He's always getting freaking hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
And his deep ball accuracy's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
They got a really clean that up. But I mean he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's the other thing he loves to throw, the deep ball.
He's got to start taking some checkdowns and work on
his checkdowns too, and is accuracy there too. But he
takes he shoots, he goes to the big play too much,
like he's got to just you take some more layups,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh yeah, without without a doubt, couldn't agree more. Next,
I got Trey Harris. We talked about him. I think
he's gonna be a value this year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Is he your number one receiver in the draft or
number two or so?

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I mean, just based off of the landing spot, I mean,
I love I love Matt Golden, I love Aguca.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
As crazy as this sounds, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Not the biggest Travis Hunter fan, but we kind of
talked about that. Is interesting because I wasn't a Tech fan,
but the Niners were trying no, I'm sorry, the Rams
were trying to trade up to get him. This is
interesting to me because the Rams draft very well, so
Tech could be good. So I have Trey Harris definitely

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in the top five. Like in terms of who's gonna
make the biggest impact year one, I think Trey Harris
will be in the top five rookies for biggest impact
for sure. So he's in my top five. How I
would rank it, I don't know off the top of
my head, but he's in fact.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Okay, uh, you got a couple more receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
You can move on to the next one. I'm sorry
my my iPad luck. The next one, I took our boy,
Cedric Tillman, love him. And then this was like with
my later picks. This was picked one fifty five. This
is a sleeper pick. I went with Pat Bryant third
round pick, wide receiver, Denver Broncos. There's a lot to
like here. Okay, again, rookie wide receiver could be a bust,

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but I'm betting on upside. And Sean sometimes when the
coaches speak, man, you just got to listen. And Sean
Sean Payton said, you know, Pat Bryant reminds him a
lot of Michael Thomas. And you look at the Broncos, right,
they got Courtland Stton, who's up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
He's like, there were the same number thirteen. So yeah, yeah, man,
we did wear the same number.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yes, no, no, you're one hundred percent right. I thought
that was interesting too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
A lot of the times when you watch, like when
the guy has the same number, you kind of like
always makes you reminds me of certain guys for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and Sean Payton comes out, he
reminds me of Michael Thomas. So you know, Courtland Sutton
is a great receiver. I don't think he'll be on
the Broncos next year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
And he's thirty thirty thirty one now, so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah, he's up there exactly, Dude. I don't think they're
gonna pay him again. I think he's this is his
last year at Denver. But you look behind Sutton and again,
maybe Sutton could fall off this year. You know, again
in the NFL, you know, we hate it, but it
always happens.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Like you know, Superstar just isn't themselves anymore. You know,
there's always always gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
But behind him, who they are have, I mean, you
have Marvin Mims, who I think is a good gadget receiver.
He's a he's a good slot receiver. I don't really
look at him like a number two. So that number
two role to me is wide open. Troy Franklin, Yeah, man,
I'm not Troy Franklin.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I feel it was a better college football player at Oregon.
I don't know if he's gonna be a good NFL receiver.
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
You Ingram in the building, though, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
And that's a that's a that's a good point almost
forgetting about him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I finally, finally Peyton's moving off his boy Adam Troutman.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I mean, yeah, Lucas Kroll, but that that's funny. Uh.
I thought you made a great pick with Ingram. I
think that's a fantastic upside pick because you look at
his offenses and who benefits will it's the joker and
the tight end. You know, you go back to this
his Saints days. So yeah, Ingram is definitely going to

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get his this year. Ingram is a little injury prone,
so we'll see if he can stay on the field.
But I do like Pat Bryant. I think he's he
played in the Big ten. He was dominant, dude, he
had a good PFF score. He's not He's not gonna
He's not a world breaker with speed. He runs like
a four to six. But he is a big receiver.

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He catches everything, could run great slants.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I'm gonna take the gamble on him. I think he
could have an impact year one. I think that could
be anywhere from like you know, a flex guy to
you know, who knows if he takes off like Michael
Thomas did year one. But I'm gonna take a shot there.
Then my next pick was our boy Elak. We kind
of got into him. I think Elak, you know, behind
Calvin Movedly, he could.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Be that guy Anthony. Anthony loves that guy too. I got,
I got, I gotta study him a little bit more.
Who who Who would be your pro comp for him?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Dude, that's a great question. Well, I I don't know, man.
He he kind of reminds me of Set Tillman. He
really like he's just a big body guy that like
goes up and gets it. Like. There's his claim to
fame was he went against Travis Hunter this year, dude,
and he destroyed Travis Hunter. He had like two hundred

(01:10:13):
yards of hiss Travis Hunter, like it was insane.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Kyle Williams got the best of Hunter a little bit too, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
That's that's that's one of my other rookie darlings like
Kyle Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
He stood out to me for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
He actually, dude, he went in this draft right before
my pick. I was kind of like stunned because he's
a he's a guy I like to get league. He
could emerge as the number one in that New England
Patriots room.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, That's that's the thing too, Guys, when you're playing
these best ball drafts, like you don't get so caught
in the way the order of the players a listed,
go down the board and you know you could you
could take guys out of the normal ADP if you
like him, like, you don't want to get caught in
this rhythm. You know what I'm saying. It's just go
out and take guys that you like and scroll down
and don't forget about him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Steve. Hey, man, I couldn't trust that enough. Steve is
one Hunter percent right. Everybody the consensus is always wrong.
Don't be afraid to be contrarian and take shots on
some upside. There's going to be rookies that I'll produce
their ADPs. There's gonna be Year two guys, Year three
guys that I'll produce their ADPs. It happens every year,
you know. So do you have somebody who like take

(01:11:19):
the stab? But yeah, man, elite dude, you like, I
don't think he was he should have been a fourth
round pick there. He's a big body receiver, manhandled Travis Hunter.
You know, there was a lot of buzz of him going,
you know, being at least a Day two pick, making
his way irid even first round, which wasn't surprising, but yeah, dude,

(01:11:39):
he he was there in the fourth round. The Titans
traded back in to get him. I think they have
a plan for him. I think the upside is the
upside and the opportunity there is a good match, so
I think he's a good stab late and then to
finish it up, I got my tight end room, I
got two tight ends. Took brock hours. I don't think
he needs a summary, and I did take Tyler Warren.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
I picked ten, so I like we.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Didn't really touch on Warren too much. But when I
watched him, obviously like a lot of his targets, like
they really schemed him open. But I did see some
stuff in there where he could win, you know, run
some pretty good routes and he he definitely wins fifty
to fifty balls and he's got the strength to you know,
playing the wildcat finish on the goal line. So I

(01:12:25):
think Stiken's gonna get unique with him, and I feel like,
you know, running throwing, I think he'll you know, he'll
do that a little bit in the NFL too, especially
if Richardson's the starter. He'll try to, like, you know,
create packages like that. And I feel like Warren could
have like four three, four or five rushing passing touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
What do you think, Oh, dude, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I am a huge Tyler Warren fan.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I think he was one of the best college college
football tight ends I've ever watched. Brock Bowers was definitely
number one, but like, I think Tyler Warren was kind
of like right right there, man, Like he was awesome.
He was awesome in the bowl game. He does everything, man,
he could block. He's a receiver, and yeah, they they

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scheme getting him the ball because he's he's that much
of a playmaker, you know, and the and the Colts
knew that. And I think when you look at Stiking
and his offenses, the tight end.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Is one of the biggest beneficiaries.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So I think Tyler Warren it's similar to brock Bowers
last year because you can make the parallel where it's like, oh,
like crappy quarterback rooms, right, I get it, Daniel Jones,
Anthony Richardson. But at the end of the day, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Helped them, he's gonna be he's gonna have to be
relied upon, and he's gonna help them for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Sure, and I think it will be similar to brock Bowers.
Does he make the impact brock Bowers makes? I don't know.
That's because he's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Not like the explosive player that Bowers is. He's a
little more slow moving and like methodical. But once he
gets going, he kind of just like he gets going right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It shocking, man, Like he's a yack guy, you like,
like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
He definitely breaks tackles.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, Like he gets the ball in his hand, he's
trying to break somebody's neck, you know. So I I
have a big Tyler warrens Stan. I think he is
an awesome target in Best Ball, especially if you miss
one of the good ones early.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, because the narrative now too is oh Richardson stinks,
Jones stinks. I don't want he fell into a bad spot.
So yeah, you're gonna get some value on Warren in
some of these Best Ball drafts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
And I would I would absolutely be shocked if he
doesn't finish a top ten PPR tight end. I think
year one. I think the way that the tight end
landscape is in the NFL right now, I just think
in that offense, the volume that he's going to get uh.
I could see him finishing in the top ten easily.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
He's going in. He went him in the eleventh round in
my draft. I don't know where he went in your draft.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I got pick so I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, ten to eleven. But yeah, I remember Laporta a
few years ago. I mean he was going like what
thirteenth round, fourteenth round he so it's similar to that, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
He was going to the third So like Dynasty rookie drafts,
they're like, you know, three four rounds long.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
He was going in the third.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Round in Dynasty rookie drafts that year, which was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Crazy to me. Yeah, he was going late.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
So it look, it does happen like these Like I
I do think people are.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Scared of the younger guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
They're scared of rookies, Like a lot of people like
they need to see it before they could buy into it.
But you know that that's just not fantasy football, man.
You got to try to guess you know who's going
to do it before it happens, you know, so you know,
cause you're you're you're just gonna buy low on value.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, and these tight ends now are starting to produce
faster and faster. I mean, you know, I remember like
Vernon Davis, I remember how much I loved him, but
it took it, like took him like five years to
three four or five years to break out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Now these guys are breaking out in the rookie year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
So yeah, man, I'm with you on that. Any last
thoughts before we get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
That was my draft? Man down, dude, that was that
was awesome. Thanks for having me, man, I think we
both had. Uh, your your draft was definitely better than mine.
I don't like my wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
That's our draft. Men. We're gonna split this team, so okay,
we'll follow it all year long.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Actually, I wanted to ask you one more question. When
you're building your best ball teams on Underdog, you get
eighteen spots. I know you said you like to go
four quarterbacks. Like for me, I took Josh Allen, So like,
if I take a Josh Allen a little more, I
don't really need another guy unless it's you know, just
for the buye. So I'm not gonna stack. But yeah,
like if you if you're not going to get one
of those guys to get in like two three, four guys,

(01:16:49):
I think that's a pretty good strategy because you know,
you kind of maximize, like you said, those three four
or five touchdown games, Uh, you know something like that.
But how do you like to build your teas? Mostly
you like to get like seven eight receivers. You know,
what's the what's the combo of the eighteen deserve or
you just kind of just spread it around.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
So I usually so I I don't take quarterback early
just a preference for me. I try to get like,
you know, the guys that are going to be valued later,
guys that could flirt with top ten numbers. Usually I
probably to beat up. I go three to four on
the quarterback right then I probably shoot for five running backs,

(01:17:29):
seven wide receivers, and then tight ends. I usually do
two to three two three.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
This team was two quarterbacks, seven running backs, six receivers.
I'd like to flip that and get seven receivers, six
running backs and then three tight ends. But I think
with two tight ends you should be good. But you know, again,
if you're not getting like studs and having like three
and I think two years ago the data was like
guys who had three tight ends are mostly finishing the

(01:17:58):
other top But again it switches every year. I don't
know what the data said from last year, but yeah,
I think you got to get more receivers because you
start three receivers in Underdog anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yeah, dude, like tight That's why I try, like you
could almost avoid the three tight end room if you
get Brock Bawers or McBride early, and then you know,
if you can get Tyler Warren, you know that you're
gonna have two star tight ends all year, you know,
but it does feel nice. It's kind of like if

(01:18:32):
you have a third tight end, right, or it's like
I found myself in some drafts. I'll take Terrence Ferguson
and Tyler Higbey both rams tight ends, right, and I
look at it like they're just like one tight end together.
But the probability now it's where it's like, Okay, if
I have you know, Higbee, Warren and Bowers every week,

(01:18:54):
I'm going to have tight end one numbers from somebody.
Even if Bowers and Warren takee of shit, you know, right,
like now, hit me, I have a chance at him,
Like you know what if he scored you know, five
catches touchdown sixty yards, Well he just he just saved me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
But and the same thing for you know, the quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
When you're taking the quarterbacks, I'm taking my Trevor Lawrence,
Matt Stafford, Sam Darnold. Right, You're you're you're playing like
a volume game where it's like, obviously they're not going
to produce like Josh Allen, but Trevor Lawrence is going
to have twenty five point weeks, Matt Stafford's going to
have some monster weeks. And now I'm just kind of
playing the numbers that where it's like I just need

(01:19:31):
one of them to have a monster week every every week,
you know, yeah, for sure, But I agree with you
where most of your AMMO should go to wide receiver.
I'm just also where it's like I would like for
that to happen, but I'm not going to force it.
Like if there's a good coming back on the board
that I like, I know is going to produce, I'm
taking the talent, you know, and I'll just hope that

(01:19:54):
you know, my later picks, they they they pan out
the way that I hope they do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Yeah, and you got to see how your team builds,
like if you're weak, get running back and you know,
like you got three running backs, but they're not that
great that you probably need to maybe take three more,
you know. So uh then you know, running back historically
is the most injury prone position, but I know last
year most of those running backs held up pretty well.
All right, man, this was great. We did Best Ball,

(01:20:18):
but we got a lot to the rookies.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
You know, Ernie did a great job breaking down all
the rookies he liked, specifically R. J. Harvey uh and
Trey Harris. So if you missed any portion of the show,
you could, you know, listen on Spotify, listen to any podcasts,
you know, YouTube rewind the show. But thanks everybody for
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