NEW Dynasty SuperFlex Rookie Mock Draft (During NFL OTAs) | 2025 Dynasty Fantasy Football Strategy

NFL OTAs are shaking up rookie outlooks — and it’s time to dive into a fresh SuperFlex Dynasty Rookie Mock Draft for 2025! From rising sleepers to potential busts, we break down every pick and how recent offseason buzz is impacting player value. Whether you're prepping for your rookie draft or analyzing long-term roster construction, this is the insight you need to get ahead.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
What up?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
What up?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Happy Friday?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Happy Friday everyone? You ever hear that at all?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ernie? Happy Friday?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Now? Where is that from?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Peloton? Alex Tucson? Sorry, I do Peloton workouts every day,
So here's the one guy I usually work out with.
But that's not what we're here to talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Man, we have a.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Fun episode coming for you guys here at f F
face Off as usual. Welcome to the f F face Off
part of the Face Off Sports Network. Ander and I
have a fun rookie mock draft we're gonna be doing
with you guys today. I've changed it up, Ernie. We're
gonna have some fun with this. It's not gonna be
super flex, but it's like super flex. But it's not
super flex.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, it's two QB.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
To keep rookie draft right like, And people are like, no,
let me ask you to like, has any whatever said
to you? You know there? What's the difference between two
QB and super flex. There's no difference. I beg to differ.
The difference is in super flex, you don't have to
start a quarterback or second quarterback. You do have to
start a quarterback a single quarterback, but the super flex

(01:17):
position gives you the option to go quarterback, running back,
wide receiver, or tight end. Here two quarterback leagues, you
have to start two quarterbacks right now. Most people say no, yeah,
they teas to do that in ten and twelve teen leagues.
All right, Well, I'm also in fourteen and sixteen team leagues,
and one of my spots, even in my super flex,

(01:38):
I don't have a second quarterback. I have a two
QB league. Guess what, there's no second quarterback. I'm still
waiting on that and I'm hoping to get one this year,
which not much to brag about, but that's not here
there nfl OTA is kicked off anything doing spectatically? Care
about to say on any of those or is it
just yeah whatever? Its first week. Players are gonna players

(02:00):
go to show up, No big deal.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
No, I think you read into it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, nothing too crazy, like they don't have any
pads on right, But you start to get a feel for,
you know, who has a higher probability of being a.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Stud You know who do.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
They have higher expectations for who's going to get opportunities?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Because that's what fantasy is all about opportunities, right. Talent's
one thing, but you need the opportunities.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
So OTA kind of drops clues on, you know, players
that we can be potentially sleeping on, players that are
being undervalued, you know, and some some you know, emerging guys.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, whether that's a rookie, second year guy, third
year guy, and there's sometimes even four fourth year breakouts, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
But it's nice like you see stuff like in Jermaine Burton,
like you know, he's like working hard now and stuff. Right,
That's where it's like, I don't know if I'd read
too much into it, but it's nice to know that
you know that there's a chance that he could be
the wide receiver three, you know, and you get a
deep deep dart throw there, like you know, probably on
the waiver wire in some league. So he's a little
fun nuggets like that. But yeah, I wouldn't looked too

(03:05):
too into it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
So yeah, I get too fine, like the whole step
five Diggs missing, you know, the first day of OTAs
and you know, the pink substance in his hand around
a whole bunch of women.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, I kind of am like I'm getting Odell
Beckham vibes honestly, like it's he's such an annoying player
because I love the landing spot, but it's like he's
been on a decline. He kind of played better in Houston,
which was weird because like his last year in Buffalo,
he had an awesome first half, then that second half

(03:36):
was terrible and we know it's not Josh right, But
then he went to Houston. He kind of played that
slot role. He was doing solid until he tore his aco.
He looks good, like he's been practicing, but he's thirty one.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
He like, I don't know. I think he kinda is
living it up right now, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
And that contract that gave him was really like a
one year contract, So I don't know. And it's you know,
in theory, I love Drake May, so this should be his,
you know, number one receiver this year. That's why I'm
torn because it's like, I don't know if I trust
him though, you know, the age, the injury, being off
the field on party boat.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know, oh yeah, oh yeah absolutely, But hey man,
I mean, you know, we're all young. We're all like
to have a good time. We get off, you know,
we like to let a little loose man's here. It
is Friday night.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The shades are going on throw them a baby.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I can't really see that well now because they're polarized
and I'm in my basement. But hey, you know what,
I'm gonna try my best and see if I can
do a draft like this because I'm here to have
a good time. So let's go all get everyone already,
that's all. I have a good time. I'm gonna bring
up the draft right now. Dude. Like I said, I'm
not lying. I have a hard time seeing right now.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And get this.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But I did nugget before we kick it off, Like
remember when you know, Le'Veon Bell had that that contract
situation and he sat and then James Connor played and
kind of went off, Oh yeah, well James Cook is
asking for a lot of money. Now, I'm not saying
like he's going to, you know, sit out, but I
don't think there's any way in hell like the Bills

(05:08):
pay him what he wants.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And Ray Davis has been getting you know, first team reps.
So that's something to keep an eye on.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Again, you can't look too into it, but it's an
interesting situation because there's not. They're not going to pay him,
so you know, we'll see and if he does sit out,
and then you're.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Stashing Ray Davis. You know you're hitting a jackpot.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh yeah, I mean to look, go back at James Cook, Like, yeah,
he had a great season thanks to the eighteen total touchdowns, right,
but let's remember he had two hundred and seven rushing attempts,
barely broke a thousand yards one thousand and nine yards,
sixteen rushing touchdowns. Now, okay, was that were they let
off flopit on Josh Allen? Maybe? But like you said,

(05:51):
teams don't want to pay running backs, you know, Like yeah,
and I do want everyone to get paid. I mean
the sake one bucks to get paid. But like you know,
it's like my own team, it'sself, you know the Allons.
Yeah they paid Dan Montgomery, but are they gonna pay
Jamior Gibbs when this contract comes up? Who knows. I mean,
it'd be smart, I think to do that, But what
do I know? Because you know the New York Giants

(06:12):
what they did. Wait, not just the New York Giants,
but they're your New York Giants.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I can't believe our GM still has a job. That's
just dude.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Like he legitimately won the Eagles a Super Bowl as
he turned out two back to back seasons with you know,
under four wins.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And he shot though. Man, that's why he kept his
shot because he gave the Eagles the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, maybe maybe he's on maybe he's on the books
for Howie. That would actually make a lot of sense.
But yeah, man, that they're they're, they're they're a clown show.
I I don't expect him to win more than five
games this year, no shot.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh man?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Man, all right, all right, all right, So we're going
to kick off our two QB rookie Marc draft. Before
we started, Lardy, you took the number two, Yes, any
particular reason why he took the number two?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Because there's a player that I absolutely love, and then
theory there's a ninety percent chance he's gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
So ninety chance, like where this is going. I took
the one, awight, just because I have the draft and
I have the one.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Await. I was gonna ask, do you want to do
you want to switch? Because I know you like the one?
Oh two?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
No, no, no, all my teams are pretty good. Yeah,
my teams are pretty good this year, so little braggadocious
on this. So I'll go ahead and take the one. Awight,
you keep the one O two, and we'll see how
this plays out. And as we say we would like
to start out.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh, so you're getting reps for your your I got you, okay?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh of course. If I'm gonna do reps, I might
as well do it here with everyone. That way, I
want to see what I like to do, and then
my leamates and see what I like to do, and
then be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and
take the player at once.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So dang, so you're gonna help them out.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Isn't that why we're here?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You revealed to them the guys you want bold move,
bold move of conn.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's see if it works out for him.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
All right, so we had two minutes on the clock. Pick.
I'm not gonna be surprised here. Even in a two
QB league, I still think it will be Ashton Jetty
going as you one one o one, because it just
seems to be the ananymous pick no matter what you are,
like one QB super flex here we are two QB.

(08:24):
I think it has to be luck. Am I right
or am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean it's every year, man, there's a consensus number
one pick, and you know that's what everybody's just gonna
roll with. And I think it's warranted for Ashton. I
think he's an amazing football player. So yeah, I think
he's the consensus one point one this year.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's gotta be. I mean, and like you and I
did a rookie but one QB rookie Monck a couple
of days ago. You know, look back, guys, go ahead
and find that and you can find that face off
Sports Network on our YouTube page. Ernie and I did
a one QB league and I realized, Ernie, I screwed
up in that draft because I had a one QB
team that took two quarterbacks. Not looking after I made

(09:05):
the pick. But I'm like, you know, I'm not going
to backtrack it. It made it look funny. Yes, sometimes
it grew up, but that's the script.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I look at it.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm like, why would I do that? Im like, unless
my team is that bad that I need quarterbacks that desperately.
But in a twelve team league's going to be that
desperate for a single quarterback. So like I said, we
have forty seconds left year and with the first overall pick,
I will be spridor goes auto pick it, which is okay.
And these people that we have on this draft, a
lot of them do set their pre draft rankings and

(09:36):
just kind of walk away so the clock will time out,
it'll go auto. And these guys are great that I've
done these mobs with for at least a couple of years.
So great group of people are here. Glad to have
them all on, Glad to have you on them with me, Ernie.
As always, we seem to like we got the chemistry
going on here. So I'm enjoying these type of things
with you.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hell yeah, man, I appreciate it, dude. Likewise, brother, I'm
happy to do this with everybody that joined us.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Man, I'm happy that you have with me.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I can't wait to do more.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
See what did I say, was gonna go one on one?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, I'm want to take my boy Omari and Hampton.
I think he is the even in a two quarterback league. Yep,
I am. I think he's that good.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think this is one of the better running back
draft classes of all time. I really do think Hampton
is going to be special, and like any dynasty league man,
I just want as much of him as I can, Like,
I think the Chargers are in a position to pound
the ball and explode offensively, and I think he's going
to be one of the main beneficiaries. And you're you know,

(10:44):
you're your nugget. You gave me, actually gave me more
conviction when Harborough wanted him at Michigan. That dude, that's
like an awesome nugget. So yeah, I'm excited for Omari
and Hampton. I think Nase and I get this goal
where people are coming from with nause, like, oh, Nase,
you know, might be a pain in the ass. I

(11:05):
think nause because it's interesting he was signed before the draft, right,
and I think that's just like that, of course, because
you don't know which way the draft is gonna go, right,
And it was impressive, like, you know, if the Chargers
can get a quality running back or you know, a
bell cow elite running back, like look what Dobbins and

(11:26):
Gus Edwards did last year, right, And that's impressive what
they did, you know, but they know like they can't
rely on those two players.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So that's why you get nause because Let's say you don't.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Let's say they didn't get Hampton right, or you know
what if Hampton gets hurt. Let's say they get him
and Hampton gets hurt, Now you're screwed. Who's gonna run
the ball? So you know, Nase could come in run
the ball thirty times a game, rush for a thousand yards,
but I think he's more insurance. Sure, maybe maybe early
on there will be kind of like a split, but
I think Hampton easily runs away with that job.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Man. He just reminds me so much of Nick Chubb Man.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
And they got the offense, the quarterback, the offensive line.
So I'm in on Hampton, man. I wouldn't be surprised
if he finished RB one from the rookie class.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I really do bull.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Take right there for the bull take, I put these
shades on.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Holy shit, I'm gonna get sunburned just for what you
just said, yes, sir, and also, you know, like kind
of hide glow because dudeen going on here.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I respect the one point three Traveon Henderson. I love that.
I would take him over both of the receivers too,
I really would. I think Traveon Henderson.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Is going to be an absolute stud and he actually
that's an awesome landing spot for him, even though they
have Stevenson. I think Stevenson will be like you know,
he'll get work on early downs and you know, some
red zone work. But I think Henderson is going to
be a do it all back there and Rabels there
and they just invested in the offensive line, so I
think that's an awesome pick.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And see since it's the last James running back, Rabel
has his running back and Trevion Henderson past black protective
Jeezel please excuse me choking on my own uh but uh,
Trayvon Henderson one of the best pass pros. Fats one
of the rookies out there. Drake Mason to love him,
easy to dump off. He might not be an instant

(13:22):
PPR machine, but he'll definitely be someone who will definitely
take that next step forward. I mean, these three running
backs that went you know, one, two, three have the
chance to finish as the best hockey running back you
know this year. Like I'm not gonna say they're gonna
finish as the best running backs overall, like you know,
all all three RB ones, but they do have capability

(13:44):
to have RB one weeks.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think in PPR, I wouldn't be shocked if all
three of them finished top fifteen.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I think that's their ceiling, right.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think the only thing I disagree with you on
is that I think Henderson will be a PPR machine
from day one, just because I would even go a
step further and say he was the best pass protector
of the running back class by far. Like, I think
people underrate his size, Like he's a bigger back than
people think. Dude, he's gonna be on the field at

(14:14):
all third down situations. Dude, he's gonna get a ton
of carries. Like, I think he's gonna be like very
similar to Jamari Gibbs, you know, not to be that guy,
but like I think that's a very good comp for him.
A guy that's gonna you know, get a lot of carries,
maybe fifteen carries, ten to fifteen carries a game, right,
and then he's gonna get a ton of catches, and
he's he's electrifying. So I'm in entrevion Anderson, Man, I

(14:38):
really in PPR, I wouldn't be surprised. I think his
ceiling is top fifteen, you know, I really do. But
I'm not like afraid of Nausee and Stevenson. You know,
I think they'll they'll get some work, you know, but
I think these guys are gonna be the beneficiaries. And
they're just they're the more talented player, you know. Yeah,
I don't think they're drafting them to sit, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Like that's why it's like why I kind of like
the value too is like you know, at worst, okay,
better player in a fifty to fifty split, you know,
and yeah, once they trust them too, dude, then it's like,
you know, the workload's just going to expand because you know,
when you could have you know, Marie Hampton running the ball,
Like we know, we know who naj is, you know

(15:21):
what I mean, Like nothing sexy, but he'll get you
a thousand yards if you needed somebody, you know, to
pound the football. But Hampton's got that Nick Chubb upside man,
Like he's just a home run hitter.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think Hepton's better than what if Chub's upside's gonna
be or upside was?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I agree? I truly, I wholeheartedly agree.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I like team like this isn't gonna be a bull take,
but it's gonna because I have sunglasses on, and I
would say I wouldn't be surprised when Marion Hampton is
better than Ashton Genty.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
There, dude, shine it back at me, baby, I agree.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
So bright, so bright, the futures look at so bright.
I had to wear shades bad take him off because
it is my pick. And I'm actually surprised two Quarterback
League that this guy actually fell. But I have to
take him just because of the value ness Jackson Dark.
How can you pass on a quarterback who's drafted from
the first round like that? You know, you just can't,

(16:17):
Like you have to take them when they're available like this,
and you know you have somebody who's got the possibility
to start and that maybe this year. But does he
I mean people saying like, oh, we.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Don't want to take I'm on that one, dude. I know.
I think Dark's a good pick.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like as a Giants fan, I don't think the Giants
this is the only risk I think there is a
Jackson Dark. No, not really, because there's a lot I
agree with you on, Like, I think he's a legit talent.
I think he was undervalued. I think cam Ward was
the best quarterback in the class. But I don't think
Jackson Dark was that far from cam Ward. Like Jackson

(17:01):
Dart played in a harder division. Man he beat Georgia
with the spreaded ankle. His underlying numbers were really good.
So there's a lot to like about Jackson Dart. He
has a really good arm. But here's the thing, right,
you're got you gotta bend that the Giants win seven games,
which I don't I don't think is possible, right, and

(17:21):
then you buy they buy themselves another year for him
to be the starter.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And then I think with Dable he could eventually take off.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Right, But if the Giants finished with under three or
four wins, I can't see them keeping everybody. And if
that happens, the new GM is gonna come in and
you have one of the better quarterback classes of all time.
Again it's a what if, but fore casting ahead, you
have three really good prospects.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
So unless something you.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Know, they ridiculously they have like ridiculous fall off, which
could happen.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right, it's a really good class.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And I think the new GM would want want to
draft their guy, and then I think you would see
Dark catch shipped for.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Like a Day two pick to a team that liked him.
You know, that's that's the floor.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
But the ceiling is is that he's the Giants quarterback
of the future. He's got Brian Dable, the leak neighbors.
You know, it really comes down to Andrew Thomas. And
Andrew Thomas could stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, you might you might have something there because then.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
They could win six seven games if they play at
their best. And then you have the Giants quarterback of
the future that's linked Dable. So we saw what happened
last time that guy linked up with the quarterback worked
out pretty good?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Right, Oh yeah, Like and surprisingly, I'm actually agree with
what you said. I put the whole Giants saying though,
because he actually made logical sense. So even I say, like, yeah,
they could trade like this could be like the whole
well that Josh Brosen deal with the whole, Yeah, so

(18:59):
this could that could that kind of scenario. But like
at that point then it's like where the hell would
he'd go.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Well, here's the thing, right, this is how you gotta
look at it, cause it's like you're you're the.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
New GM, right right, you come in, You're the new GM.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Let's say they have the number two pick Okay, so
you're guaranteed to get a stud. Do you want to
draft your own guy that you know is going to
be an elite prospect, right?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Or do you want to take a chance on a
guy that's not yours? You know? And he was a
dart throw at the end of the first round.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Logically, I think they're gonna want to take their guy.
And it's like crap, Like if you could still get
a day to like, where would he go?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I would imagine there were some teams that were high
on Jackson dart right and their quarterback needy teams like
for example, like I want to be shocked at the
Raiders next year, Like say say say Giants are picking
top three, they're gonna take one of the you know,
blue chip quarterbacks, like the Raiders only have Geno Smith,
you know what I mean. So he's thirty four. I

(19:59):
think you'll a team like that make a move for him,
you know. But that's the only reason why I think
he gets shipped, because I just think the Giants are
inevitably gonna be bad and I I don't know. Again,
it's the Giant, so nothing would cease to amaze me.
But let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Can you see a.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
GM, sir, surviving three years of four seasons with under
four wins?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Do you think he comes back for a fourth year?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean that team is absolutely dumpster fire in reality.
In reality no, but like who else is gonna want
the job? I mean, I have to be honest with you.
If they start like a total dumpster fire, I would
be surprised if they actually fired a midseason.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Do you know why do you want you? I couldn't
agree with you more? And do you want to know
why they're gonna do that? I get when that happens, dude, Right,
do you know what's gonna happen. They're going to promote
some in house guys, some interim coach that's close with
the Mars, and they're gonna tank, and they should that
that's what's gonna happen, because they're gonna be like, all right,
we're one and seven, we're one whatever, one in nine.

(21:15):
You know, we need to finally like cut the you know,
the snake's head off, and they're gonna tank because that's
the only way they're gonna get a new GM and
a new coach that wants to come to the Giants.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And you know, fix them, you know, And.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's probably the sexiest way to do it is by
you know, again.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think Archie, nuss Meyer, and Aler, I think.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
They're all gonna be stuts. I really I could be wrong, right,
but I am leaning on I like all three of them.
And you know, there are some like Bill Belichick, Like again,
he's in North Carolina doing his thing, but I know
deep down he still wants to coach the Giants like
that that he was kind of a lot of people
were speculating that that's why he took the North Carolina

(22:00):
job because the Falcons wanted to hire Belichick.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
He said no to the NFL, but says yes to college.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right, And we all know that Belichick since parcels that
the Giants are the one team that he's always wanted
to coach, you know, So like who better you know
to be that Gandalf on the Hill than Bill Belichick,
you know, And I'm sure he'll bring in one of
his like dude, you know. And even if a lot
of people are like, oh, Belichick's old, I get that
he might be done, right, but it's like what other

(22:28):
options do they have? And also it's like what if
you get Bill Belichick and Archie Manning, right, and he
sets you up like, you know, in the next five
years you have a winning culture, You've won a championship,
and then he retires, leaving you that foundation. How does
a win, man, I mean compared to you know, where
the Giants have been So yeah, Man's that's what I

(22:52):
honestly think. I just think they're that bad.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I don't. I don't trust them the way more than
five games. I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Belichick is the quarterback he wants. He's got a twenty
four year old girl. I'd be kind of a little
worried about that. Get one of these young quarterbacks around
him around her, so.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
She might be a quarterbacks coach too. You never know.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'll keep that appropriate. I'm not gonna say anything. I'll
keep that on the d L. But uh, back to
the draft, you know, first round quick recap, ashon genty
No surprise, you surprisingly take on Maryon Hampton, Dragon Henderson,
Teed McMillan, Travis Hunter, cam Ward finally goes to the.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
One o six.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Quench on Drunkins at one seven. I take Jackson started
at one eight, R J. Harvey at the one nine,
Tyler Warren at one ten, Caleb Johnson at the one eleven,
Matthew Golden the one twelve.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Who is your favorite pick of that round?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Who is my favorite old of mine? Obviously gonna come on, well,
why would I not be my favorite pick. I'm the
best draft of theirs out there, so that's all I
gotta say. So like, yeah, it's only my pick is
the best pick. But looking at how it's going now,
I like, well, I mean it's easy to say Philadelphia's

(24:09):
because he has Ashton genty, but looking at the team's
not Like I'm not a huge Travis Hunter fan just
because he's he's the wide receiver two on his own team.
I agree could compair to Teed McMillan, who actually has
wide receiver one upside. So if I hadn't said what
pick I hate the most, he'd be the Travis Hunter
pick at one five and nothing against Lucky Leo two

(24:29):
fifty five. But I'm just not a fan of that
pick overall. But I still, if I got into my head,
I probably say R J.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Harvey just as to the one nine, good good, that's
my second favorite pick. My number one is actually Tradyon
Henderson based off because of what you's partially because of
what you said, because I agree with Travis Hunter. I
think Hunter is a solid football player. But again, you know,
I think he's a better corner than receiver. You know,
I already know Ian Thomas is the alpha there, so

(25:01):
you're already the wide receiver too. I don't know how
many snaps like he's a human being, so I would
imagine it's kind of like a fifty to fifty, right
But I love Trayvon Henderson. I think he's really undervalued
right now. I would take him over McMillan and Hunter.
I think that's kind of like you usually see him
go at one to five. So I like that pick

(25:23):
just because that person had the balls to do it,
and I think it's the right move.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, especially like, yeah, that is a Baldi move. And
I don't have like truck nuts to really say to
do that, but if I did, I'd probably do something
similar to that.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Did you just take my boy Kyle Williams? You slut?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
No? I took Kyle Williams.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh yeah, you took my boy. You sluck. Great pick, dude,
that's an awesome pick.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I know a little bit of things about fantasy football.
If you asked me send me the lineup. I'll get
you the best line up, no problem, no big deal,
that got this. But no, I like Kyle Williams just
because he has the potential to step in as a
wide receiver one on the team, not exactly wide receiver
one in fantasy. People are gonna hype him up, saying, like,
you know, he's got all this wide open field. Yes,

(26:06):
everyone's got the wide open field as a rookie, but
until you prove it, you gotta you gotta show it.
He's on the there's a reason why he's at the
two o eight for a reason. He's not a one
or four type pick. He's a late late second you know,
mid to late second round pick. So that's the reason
why I'm taking him here. I like, I like him
personally here getting him especially this day I was actually

(26:27):
taking he'd actually go at least after Higgins. You know,
I would say that two five I could see him going,
But I guess it's depending what your team looks like.
You know, say, like I need a wide receiver. Oh,
I got my wide receiver at the one five. There's
a running back I want to get it, hopefully falls
me at the two five and Cam Skaboo. You know,

(26:47):
the guy got his running back, So you know, I
always say get your guy, no matter what whatever the
cost is. If you feel like that's who you believe in,
go get him. But looking at your team, all right,
I have a Mary Hampton and then you take Abuka
in the second round.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, no, I love your Kyle Williams pick, dude, And like,
I agree with you because I in theory, Stefan Digg
should be awesome, but I don't know if I trust it.
Kyle Williams is gonna play that slot dude, And like, yeah,
I love Drake may like going back to UNC and
that's why you saw Josh Downs have some big years,
Like he loves throwing to the slot receiver.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
So that's an awesome pick. I think you'll actually see
value here. One. I went at Buka, dude.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Because again, this is Dynasty, so I'm going for the
juggular in the long term. I think, you know, Hampton
and at Buka there's you know, some conservative those guys,
like it might be more of a year two takeoff,
and I think that's the absolute floor for both. I
think if you didn't see money dividends from either this year,
you will one hundred percent see the next year. Now

(27:48):
he's on a one year contract. Godwin and Eavans are
both over thirty years old, where god Win's close to
it and Buka is legit. Man, I think he's the
best route runner in the class. He reminds me a
lot of same. I think him and Baker Mayfield are
going to be a lot of fun. So I went
with the long term pick there. I know it's murky
year one, but still, dude, I think he could still

(28:09):
give you. You know, if you're in a PPR league,
I could see flex. You know, Baker Mayfield's good, dude.
They have a really good offense, and their offense is
fun because you know, the Bucks are probably gonna win
nine or ten games somewhere around there, right, So every
game is going to be a high score back and forth. Right,
So there's gonna be a lot of volume to go around.
And again, we don't know if Godwin's playing week one,

(28:32):
you know, and if Godwin has to start the year
on the shelf, dude, Buka becomes that much more tempting
because say, you know, those first four weeks or six weeks,
whatever it is, and he becomes Baker's go too, because
Baker loves throwing to the slot as well. He's another
quarterback right then it's a shit man, he might run
away with that job because you know Godwin is.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Getting up there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So yeah, there's that scenario as well. So you just
gotta kind of picture every scenario. But yeah, dude, I
think like buk.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Is a safe pick. I think he's this draft jasm
easy pick for me.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I like your analogy on that. And plus, you know,
Mike Evans eventually has to fall thirty two years old,
you know, just barely broke the thousand yards last season.
He got lucky on the big uh you know what
one or two big games. Yeah, I think you Baker
Mayfield because you know he's finishing as QB six. That
definitely helps out a lot of fancy managers. But no,
I totally understand, like eventually that team kind of has

(29:31):
to start coming down, like he said, you know, Chris
Godwin's gonna eventually, you know, is he gonna be ready
to go right away? Is he gonna be on the shelf?
You know, where does Mike Evans you know, finally start
to show that slowing down process? Going in and that's
a perfect pick. I mean, especially get him here at
the two to two. I think I think it's highway robbery.

(29:51):
I would actually rather have him over Matthew Golden just
because the whole wide reship room in Green Bay seems
more murkier than the one in Tampa Bay, even though
we know what the one in Tampa Bay looks like,
but in Green Bay, like we're still that we don't
even know, like you know, who's one, who's two, who's three?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I do.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I do think matt Golden is gonna be legit. I
think he'll I think he will emerge the number one there.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I really do. I think I think the talent's legit.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And like, back back to Mike Evans though, dude, like
I dude, he's one of my favorite receivers ever.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
He's a dog. But it's like, yeah, dude, like we didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
He already had a hamstring injury last year and stuff,
So I'm with you there, man, Like he had a
crazy year last season, but I think a fall off
is imminate. If it doesn't happen this year, I feel
like it will be next year. So yeah, man, I
think just like book is in a really really good spot, dude,
because you know he could as quickly as you know

(30:46):
j SN last year was behind Tyler, alert A, Lockett
and Metcalf.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, you know, and nobody wanted to draft him because.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
No one hated him. Everyone hated him. I got the
NLA with their first roun pick on him. He don't
play like shit because he didn't do ship the year before,
and then look what happens.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Sometimes you gotta be pasted a fantasy guys, you gotta
you gotta play the calculated, you know, long game.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
But yeah, yeah, man, I uh I agree. I actually
not to glaze myself. Well so far, my favorite pick
is whoever is z Fighter. He's having an awesome draft.
I love his two picks Trey Harris and Ferguson.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
He put eleven as a sleeper type of guy, like
he knows how to draft. I've been in mini my drafts,
but this guy like he is a shoot ninja as
like his avatar shows.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, dude, no, my compliments to him. I really like
his draft, Like I was gonna take Ferguson actually where
I took Bryant. But Pat Bryant's another guy A get
into a lot of teams, so you know you're a
round three, might as well just reach for you know,
the sleeper you like the most. But dude, I love
Terrence Ferguson. I think he could absolutely be a stud.

(31:53):
Like McVeigh talks about this guy like he's Travis kelcey.
So yeah, that was an awesome pick. I think he
had an awesome draft. I think Trey Harris actually, like honestly,
that gives a Guka run for his money for best
pick round two. I think Trey Harris is gonna I

(32:16):
not only push wide receiver two. I think he's gonna
have a thousand yards this year.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I really do the rookie.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yes, I think he will be one of the surprise
again another Bowl take keep those glasses on. I think Herbert, dude,
justin Herbert was getting drafted as super flex quarterback one
or two two years ago, right, I think he still
is that same quarterback.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think the Chargers have had some down years.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think Harborough came in and changed everything last year
and now he has the offensive line, he has the coach,
he has McConkey, he has Trey Harris, and like, dude,
it's it's really similar to Keenan Allen and Mike Williams.
So I think you see a big year from Justin Herbert.
I think Trey Harris is one of my favorite receivers
in the draft. I think if he didn't get hurt,

(33:04):
he could have been a first round pick and fun nugget,
the Chargers were really Tarborough wanted to take him round one,
but Horitz was like, nah, dude, like trust trust our
you know, our department. Yeah, because they have like they
have a feel for like who's gonna take who Again,
it's all like calculated, like anything could happen.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
But I think that's cool now.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
That they can kind of, you know, make calculated guesses
on like you know, when a guy's gonna be there
or not, if if they could, you know, if there's
a high probability of their guy falling if they were
moving up right. But yeah, dude, I think the sky
is the limit for him. Man I am I love'm
the lad mconkay guy. This is why I love this

(33:46):
pick even more. They're playing two separate roles guys to
a quarterback that has literally a golden arm, you know,
and he'd find a fortress of an offensive line like
he is going to have time to throw the ball,
and Trey Harris is gonna be one of the biggest beneficiaries.
I think him and McConkie will both have over one
thousand yards this year. Take it to the bank. I'm
that high on him. You know, he would really have

(34:07):
to be have a slow start, but I think Trey
Harris has the talent to be an absolute stud from
year one and on.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I really do. It's a bold take, but that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I could see it taor you know, recap the quick
second round. You know, pick two to one, Colson Lovelin,
you took at BUCA, Luther Burden went three, Jane Higgins
went four, Sketibo went five, and then moved talked Harris
at six Toesy Fighter eleven, as we've been talked back
at two seven, Kyle Wims with me at two eight,
Bachel Tuton the Fumbler, two nine, Jalen mil Rook to ten,

(34:45):
Mason Taylor too level which is another ten and I like,
and so Doeorge Sanders are two twelve. So you know,
two quarterbacks go in this round of Milroe and Sanders,
but they go late surprisingly and just can recamp because man,
we were flying through this drat, I thought like I
had made it long enough. Holy smokes, these guys, these
guys are good wizards, so they know what they're doing.
They know what they're drafting. Tyler Shout, which was a surprise,

(35:07):
falls to the three to one. You take Pat Bryant
at the three two. Jada Blue falls at three three.
You like a Ale manner. I always try the same name.
That's why I always have to like enunciate it.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, was it three four?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Jalen Wills, which is a sleeper I like at three five,
terrece Ferguson. We saw three six, Jalen Nole at three seven.
I get Isaac Tesla at the three eight. Will Howard,
which is a quarterback I'm actually surprising and starting to like,
which is hard to believe. Goes three to nine. Dylan
Sampson three ten, Dylan Gabriel. God knows who's gonna be

(35:40):
the starting quarter back there in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Gabriel looks good, dude for a reason. Apparently he went,
he looks good, so do with that what you will.
But I think he could quietly that. I wouldn't be
shocked if they when they decide to bench Flacco, they
go with give Gabriel the first look.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
You know, I think there's just a lot I think
there's a.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Lot of you know, just spark and media around Sanders
right now, so he's getting a lot more attention. But
you know, there's a reason why they drafted Gabriel over him.
And you know, if Gabriel wasn't five or eleven lefty quarterback,
you know, you watch the tape. His tape is pretty good.
So that'll be interesting to see who they go with first.

(36:26):
But yeah, apparently Gabriel looks good.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Damn man, I'm starting to struggle with this pick. But
you know what, I'm gonna change it up with the
fourth round pick. Yeah, going with the.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Brother, yes, sir, all right, So what was your vision
with Tesla? Let me let me hear it, all right.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
So as you know, I'm a Lions fan, I'm never
gonna hide it. So if I get good word on players,
I look into it. I researched the ship out of
this one, like I probably like beat the same to
death of like trying to find out why they traded
so much Rice like Tesla. So they gave up their
third round another third round, and I think next year

(37:10):
third round or two third rounds next year to move
up just to get him and the reason.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
But did they trade that too, by the way, in.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The Houston I think up correct.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Good trade for Houston. I mean I have three third
round picks.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Damn I'd have to double check to see exactly what
it is.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
That's three top one hundred picks.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, man, I mean, holy shit, do you think like,
let me ask you this, well, actually again in why
did they move up and try?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I know he thought he was the best wide receiver
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Well, yeah, everyone thinks they're the best wide receiver in
the draft and they draft him like, yeah, well, you
know he was one of our guys. You know, we
have the third first round greade on him. I can't
believe he fell in this here. Bullshit, I call bullshit
on that. But like with Tesla here, he's a Michigan
native guy. He's always wanted even he was in high school,
he said he wanted to be drafted by the Detroit Lions.
That was one of the streams when he came to

(38:03):
interview with the Lions. He actually had a Detroit Lions
hoodie on, so right away, you know, a home cook
guy that we definitely want to have. But looking at
it right away, he can perform right out on special teams,
you know you'd be kick returner, punt returner, however you
want to put him there. But essentially, if you ever
listen to Brad Holmes talk, people will say, you know,
like you're you're in the super Bowl window. Now, you know,

(38:26):
play for now, not tomorrow. He goes, I don't. I
never just play for now. I like to play for
the future. Tesla is also going to be more valuable
next year to the Detroit Lions than this year because
this year you have, for a fact, I'm on Saint
Brown's a lock, Jamison Williams in the contract year, you

(38:49):
have Tim Brown who's on one year contract, and you
have Kolee Frayman who's on a one year contract. So
basically you're putting Isac Tesla right now as the wide
receiver five on that team next year. Best case scenario
of nothing happened to say like they do resign Jameis
and Williams. At least Tesla is a wide receiver three
right off the bat. So you get that type of

(39:10):
upside late third round pick, well worth the reach. I mean,
I might people might say you know, I might reach
form where I got him at a good value because
he fell to the three eight, And I'll gladly take
that because I like the potential upside of what he's
capable of doing.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Oh yeah, so you you you think he's more of
like like his ceiling is wide receiver too.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Like let's say, like he actually outplays Jameson this year, right.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
And that happened.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
No, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm not gonna be that bold man. I took off
the shilter off.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I would say that's his absolute ceiling, like if he was.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Actually wide receiver too, like I was saying.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
There, Yeah, uh, that's a tough But it all depends
on this how this season goes with him. To be honest,
I'm not gonna say, oh yeah, you know they're they're
going all the way. This is their year. If they
start to falter, I could see him trading Jameson away
for some type of value. Sure, And if they do start,
you know, pushing this, this is only is gonna push

(40:11):
them to have to resign James wins because of the
chemistry that team already has. It's like it's kind of
hard to rebuild it all over again, if you have
to try to start all over again with a wide
receiver here he took in the first round.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So by his floor is wide receiver three.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I agree with that too, Like I think by his
floor by next wide receiver three.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, I think it's ceiling would be wide receiver three.
I won't say this floor is wide receiver three. I
think it's Celiing's wide receiver three.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
No, I think it's ceiling is actually a little bit higher,
just because like again, like there's no guarantees with anything,
you know, who says James and Williams is gonna have
a good year, Like you know, like what if what
if you know, the Lions really just need an AX
receiver and now this Tesla kid comes in, and what
if Holmes is right like we've seen gms do this,
Like I thought bow Knicks was gonna be terrible. Champagne
looks like a genius, right yeah, what if this kid

(40:59):
is a what if this kid's a monster?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, yeah, but I remember the other pass cutchers they
have going on to you know, you got salm Report's
tight end. You have both running backs to Dave Mntgomery
and Sremier Gibbs. You know you're you're gonna be fighting
to get more receptions and stuff. I can see testily
having wide receiver two weeks if that helps you, Like,
you know, his ceiling can be a wide receiver two

(41:21):
in a week, and I don't think for a season, yeah,
but for a week yes, But overall I can see
more of a wide receiver three, which is what you
hope for. It best, especially with specting your player when
they come out.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
He'll definitely be wide receiver three.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
I think you just gotta you gotta pray that you
know he's he's better than Jamison, because then you really hit.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
He's better than jameson On by a new beer. Actually, no,
I'm go by you quick quite a few, dude.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I mean your GM is actually pretty good on hitting
these offensive playmakers. And he gave up a ship ton
to get this guy. So and he did it when
Jamison Williams in a contract year. Yeah, and you just
said that you kind of played for the future too, man,
So I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Was says let Brad Cook and understand that whole phrase.
But at the same time, he hit like if you
hit one hundred percent of your players, Yeah, man, like,
there's no stop me. But there's a few misses he's
had and that's gonna happen, and he's gonna start missing
more than he's gonna hit. So could Tesla be a hit? Yeah?
Could he also be a miss? Yeah? Would I be
surprised either way? No?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Well, he kind of shut me up with the I
thought taking Gibbs at six was crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
The port was kind of taking him that high was crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
He did get this, he did get that twelve. He
was going to take him at six.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, that's that's insane.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
John Robinson.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Wait, they didn't didn't. Wait when did they take Hims again?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Twelve? They traded down.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Oh that's what it was. They were going to take
him over Pijon.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I remember, yeah, and they traded down.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's what it was. Yeah. Man, So no, I I
think Holmes is, you know, on the offensers side of
the ball. I feel like he's had a lot of hits.
But I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I feel like he is kind of hit or miss
a little bit. But so let me ask you, do
you do you trust him on this pick? Do you
think this is one of his hits or you think
it's a miss?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You think he got a little over zealous and just.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think he might have got a little over zealous
and traded too much for him. But I always like
to play the wait and see game, like I'm not
gonna jump the conclusion say you know, he messed up,
because what do I know? Like to try to say,
like I could scout was it one hundred and sixty
some schools and these wide receivers and all these other players.
It's hard to do it until do you see him

(43:39):
actually get drafted and tried to see. Then you try
to piece it together like was this a good pick?
Does this fit Jared Goff scheme? Does this hit the
offensive scheme? You know, we're still trying to figure out
what type of offense? Is this offense gonna run?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
With Montgomery taking him over as offensive coordinator, you know,
there's no more Ben Johnson. But I always trying to
tell people, like, you know, was it really Ben Johnson that.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Was doing it?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Or was it Dan Camp run the offense?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
No? I I think it was a comedy. Here's I
think Ben Johnson is a good offensive mind, but he
definitely gets a little too much credit because like what
a lot of people undervalue is nobody realizes how good
the Detroit line supporting cast is, you know, right, Like
their offensive line was set from like yeah, so definitely

(44:23):
top three. So your offense is going to obviously be
able to operate easier when you have a wall for
your quarterback to stand behind. So his offense is always
going to look prettier, right, He's going to be able
to do whatever he wants most of the time. And
then again, you know you have you know, Bradholme. He
hit on Saint Brown Gibbs laporta, right, and he brought

(44:46):
some firepower in there, and it.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Was kind of like the perfect storm. So I still give.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Ben Johnson credit, Like, I think he's a good offensive mind,
but I don't think that was all him. I think
he had a lot of help from what the Lions
had and what the he gave him, right, So I
think that offense. I always get scared when there's an
offensive coordinator change, you know, because now it's a different
play stall play play falls, like a different style, right,

(45:13):
So and now obviously is going to impact fantasy performances
because you know, a guy might not get the ball
as much as he did last year, you know what
I mean? And I'm not that worried though with the Lions.
I think the Lions will still operate. They're like they're
gonna run the ship out of the ball, They're gonna
be able to throw.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
They'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Wondering if you have any one hear anything positive, Philip
be says, Buka two two and blew it three to
three is nice. So yeah, your your Buoka love man. Yes, sir,
you knows what you're talking about. He knows what you
know what you're doing. So Philip wanted to give you
some props on that.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Jayden Blue, Yeah, man, and I like I like Jayda,
but I would be careful, like there's a lot of
upside there.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Like Texas, he was part of a really deep running
back at Texas, Like you know you.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Have Bijeon Brooks Brochean, so he was kind of yeah,
he was behind them a little bit. He's a little undersized,
but he's an awesome receiving back. The one thing I
would be just try like kind of be careful with
if you take Blue, I would make sure you know
he's always on waivers after draft. But Phil MafA, the

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running back they took in the seventh round from Clemson.
He's a much bigger back. He's like two hundred and
thirty pounds, and again, like it's not uncommon for these
really late running backs to actually come in and produce.
So the Cowboys running back room is wide open. This
is a really good running back class. I would handcuff
Blue with MafA just in case, you know, they have,

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you know, a vision for MafA to be that early
down guy. He might come in and you know, kill Camp, right,
So that's the one thing I'd be careful. But I
like the vision for Blue because I Givante Williams and
mouse Unders suck like we know they're cooked Durmonte, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Like I was a Vane fan, like dude, I was
like I was.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I thought he was gonna be like one of the
greatest running backs ever, but unfortunately he had an injury.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Man and some players they don't they don't recover. It sucks.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
It's a sad story, but you know it's objectively true.
So yeah, I like the Blue pick too. I would
just handcuff yourself just in case, you know, you don't
want to get It'd be the almost like do you remember,
oh it was Philip Lindsay. And who is the other
running back they took?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Do you remember it?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
They took up The Broncos took a running back in
the third round from Oregon, Royce Freeman.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, dude, this is.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
One of my biggest fantasy lessons of all time. So
I was so high on wys Freeman, thinking he's gonna
break fantasy.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And yeah, Philip, this dude.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Seventh round pick from Colorado, right, like you should have
been able to see it coming a mile away, comes
in and he takes over.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
So that's the one lesson I learned from there.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
But I took Pat Bryant Man, so again, I feel
like this is more of like a long ball pick,
but there could be dividends year one depending on how
good he is and how quick he takes off. I
think there's easy path for him to be the wide
receiver two on this team. I like Marvin Mims, but
he's the slot guy. He's a gadget guy, right, and
so had some drops last year and I think that

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kind of pissed Peyton off, you know, and you have
a blossoming bow Nicks and they took this guy pretty
high in the third round. Sean Payton gave him a
lot of praise that there was a lot of similarities
to Michael Thomas. So you know, I'm not saying he's
going to be Michael Thomas, but this is one of
Sean Payton's hits. You know, this could be the X

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receiver for the Broncos moving forward. You know something, I
don't think they re signed him after this year. I
don't know if you feel the same there, but I
don't think they do.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Now. I think they move on from them. I would
move on from him just because you're you're getting to
that point now and was at that age gap where
it's like, all right, he's past this prime. It should
be more downhill, like you'd be paid like basically be
like it was gonna say it like a baseball contract,
sure paid for past performance than now performance. Right, So yeah,
I think this would be all downhill from here. So yeah,

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I wouldn't be surprised I do move on from him.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
No, I I completely agree too.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
And that's where it's like, you know, Pat Bryan's either
gonna be the guy or they'll get their guy next year.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
You know, So there is that upside there.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You know, who knows he could be Trey Quan Smith,
but I like Pat Bryan, who's really good in the
Big ten. He destroyed Rutgers, like absolutely destroyed Rutgers while game.
So he's got good tape too, So I'm gonna take
a flyer on him.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
And then who's your fourth round pick? Brother?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
So we'll wrap up the fourth round real quick. I'll
go over to quick recap. We had Tory Hunt Tory
harton wide receiver Seattle Dark West Hunter for you, Ali
Gordon at the three, at the four to three, Eric
Royal tight end for four, William Mark's four or five?
Who really was gonna hope the follow me? But he didn't.
DJ Giddons running back for the Indianapolis Colts. Aerschel took

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Quinn Ewers quarterback for Miami, which I secretly liked that pick,
and I'll talk more about that. I took Trevor Etn
because you know why not? Because it's running backs from
running backs are a position I like to draft when
I don't know what to pick at that point, Uh,
Brishard Smith to the one eight exavor Verstreppo four ten

(50:29):
Savan one is four eleven. Rolande gets in to wrap
up the draft.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Good pick.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
So you and you said, you know what, why did
I go with the running back there? Why did I
pick Trevor utn Over?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What was your what was
your vision there for him? What's the upside?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Because based on what is available and what I think
could happen, I mean, yeah, he's not going to be like,
oh yeah, you know, this is guy would be RB one,
RB two, but he has potential to make some sort
of fancy impact. And if it's a four to eight pick,
I don't care at this point. This is a dart throw.
You know, you look at what's ahead of them right now.

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You know you got Chuba Hubbard, you have who's the
other running back went there? Uh Rico dal signed there,
and we know Rico Dall is not exactly perfect health.
Trevytanx actually opportunity to move into the RP two slot
for Carolina as right now. After that, it can get murky,
especially if Jonathan Brooks does come back. But Etan could

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possibly have an opportunity a field. Georgia Bulldog. I always
like Georgia running backs. That's just always been a thing.
Georgia seems to produce good running backs. I feel like
Etan got a little bit knocked down just because you know,
he's like, here's a Florida guy before it went to Georgia.
But he still showed that running back capability that he has,
not a bruiser, not you know, a high end speeded runner,

(51:50):
but better than most would think. But the one I
was gonna ask you about is whych our quest Hunter?
What if I I keep asking people this because everyone
says I love him as a sleeper, and why do
I not see him as like someone that's so great?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Sure, so I every Saturday, I'm watching SEC football.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
First.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
If there's not an SEC game on I don't like,
then I'll watch the Big Ten. I watched a lot
of Ulburn this year. I love Dark Quiz Hunter.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know, at first I didn't like the landing spot
either because I like Blake.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Korham and Kyrie Williams is obviously a stud, right, But
then the more I thought about it, I was like, well,
it's kind of interesting, how you know, this was a
really deep running back class.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So I'm a big believer on good players are going
to fall, right.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
There's guys that are going in the fourth round that
would go round three Day two normal years, and I
think Dark Quiz Hunter was one of them. And then
I saw, you know, my one of my favorite gms
and McVeigh trade up for this kid, right, and I
saw how fired up McVeigh was. I'm sitting there thinking,
you know, there's a lot of tread on Kyrine's tires, right,

(53:03):
like you know, yes, they had been.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Running him to death.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
You know, you look at his athletic profile, He's actually
not the most athletic back, so like what the Rams
are doing with him is kind of amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
He had that big fumble, like, dude, like not to
be this guy, but you could blame like he kind of.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Screwed them out of the Super Bowl appearance. If he
didn't fumble that ball versus Philly, the Rams would have
that game. I you know, I believe so, so you know,
I think, you know what we could be seeing here
is Kyron Williams insurance, right, which is the most likely outcome.
But I think, like, if you're asking me who's better

(53:41):
Cormer Hunter, I'm taking Hunter.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Way more juice.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
He is an athletic free kid, could squat six hundred
pounds you give dunk a basketball. He's five nine, Like
he's a stud, so I think he's either the true
handcuff or I wouldn't be surprised if they factored him
it like I wouldn't be surprised if early on they
started trying to do like a committee thing and he
got some work in the early weeks, and then he

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just couted his talent, you know, and the Rams play calling.
I could see that role growing over time, and this
might actually be the air to Kyraen Williams. Say, the Rams,
you know they're a smarter team. So are they gonna
pay Kyon Williams.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I don't know. I would lean towards they're not going.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
To because I feel like the Rams are gonna want
to put that money into different assets, right and they
believe that I can make another Kyrien Williams out of
Hunter or Blake cor That's why we drafted them there.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
This is what we were getting ready to do.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
So I think there really could be some untapped, like
really high upside here that I'm going to be investing in.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Hunter is one of my favorite sleepers. I'm gonna stash
him and I'm gonna hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I think worst case scenario, he is the real handcuff
for the Rams backfield.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
But the upside is in.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I wish you would have tooken Aley Gordon. That would
have been a smarter one to go with because I mean,
just like a couple of years ago, he was viewed
as the RB one of this class. Had a horrible season.
I mean, god awful. See, dude, if you ever watched
any Oklahoma State games, you'd better watching golf because it
was a total snoozer. Like if you're watch.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Twenty one carries for forty nine yards.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
It was horrible, Dude. That offensive line was absolute garbage,
like super garbage, like I could not even think of
like a good way to even put it, and it
just didn't work with him. But I like his upside
because I mean, what what does Miami have a running backs? Jane?
You have a bunch of you know, you know you

(55:48):
have your Jalen right who you love still, I know, be.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Just be careful, man, I'm telling you to be careful.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Care Ale Gordon. Dude, if he shows those flashes that
he showed two years ago, I'll read a quick cutting
ability and able to run. Dude, I would be if
he's the RB two there.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah, well one of them is definitely gonna be the
RB two because when the Dolphins are at their best,
I think twenty twenty three was like the Dolphins seialing right,
like a playoff team. They're not going to win the
super Bowl, but they're gonna be fun during their regular season,
kind of like the Cowboys, right, like very fantasy friendly.

(56:26):
And you saw like a Chain and Monster both went
off right, and then last.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Year like they were kind of a mess.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
There was a lot of injuries, you know, and I
thought it was interesting a Chain with two averaged twenty
one fantasy points per game without him the average seven.
So the only flaw in this backfield is that their
fantasy value is linked to it, and we all know
the situations to it. But there's been a lot of

(56:53):
you know, promising reports out of camp into it, and
you know they're confident in him, so you.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Just hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
But they're gonna have a one two punch, Like it's
not gonna be just the a change show. We all
know a Chanin's electric.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
One hundred and eighty pounds.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
He cannot He's not gonna be able to sustain an
NFL workload, right, And that's why you saw monstered. I
think the way they had the tandem the first year
was how it's gonna be this year, and it's gonna
be either Ali Gordon or Jalen Right, my money is
on Jalen Wright just because I have my reasons. I
think Jalen Wright is low key a stud. But I
like your angle too because Ali Gordon there was a

(57:30):
lot of buzz going into this year kind of fell off.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
I am a big believer on you know.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Sometimes good players suffer because of bad teams, and their
value kind of takes a hit, like for example, Sam Donald, right,
that team goes to a dream scenario and oh wow,
Sam Donald's top ten fantasy quarterback Lily quarterback nine, Like
that's insane, but that's the reality of it, right, So
that you could be right with Ali Gordon and we'll
see one of them is gonna win out in camp

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and that's gonna be the thumper of that offen.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
So and yeah, and then the wrap up, we'll top
of the last two Woody Marks and DJ Giddens, Like,
I love their potential upside because of who's ahead of them,
because there's no one really ahead of them besides two
star not I wouldn't say two star running backs, but
two one who's the star running back for fantasy, another
one who definitely gets you a shit ton of carries
and has a good fantasy outside. But you know, behind

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I think Jonathan Taylor is just a bunch of running backs.
DJ Giddens has opportunity. If anything ever happens to Jonathan Taylor,
kidd Is actually has a nice opportunity. Same thing with
Woody Marx. You know behind it, you know, behind Joe Mixon,
Damian Pierce, We've already seen the best of that happen.
So it's like, you know, these two actually have the

(58:48):
chance to actually be difference makers on the team, and
you're getting in the here right now in the fourth round.
So total freaking slam dunk on that one. My head's
off to you. I'm lucky Leo two fifty five and
once again, Z the Fighter eleven for getting those two
running backs.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah, no, I agree with him.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
And there's a lot of fun handcuffs. My favorite handcuff
though later would be Willie Marx. Reason why, I think
he was another running back that fell because of a
deep class.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Texas traded up for him. That was interesting and you
look at Joe mixonan twenty eight years old, so he's
getting to that kiss of death age.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
And you know, you look at Joe Mixon's game mog
like he misses games man, he's one of like a
run and it kind of goes under the radar, but
he's always missing games. And Willie Marx is a really
good pass catching back, so he might get some volume
you know in PPR, Like you know, if he's catching
pass he's their pass catching back, then there's some PPR

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value there. But if he's the handcuff as well, then
and I believe he is right, Like say Joe Mixon
gets hurt, well, now you have like a solid RB
two for the rest of the year. So I love
that pick. My favorite pick of the fourth round, though,
is well, my favorite pick of the third round is
Terris Ferguson. I think z Fighter he got me an
awesome pick. I think he's going to be that's that's

(01:00:04):
a stash, right because Higby's still there. But again, like
Higbee could get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
So it's a great pick, you know, because the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
In front of him is good, but he's old and
he's hurt, so well he's hurt all the time. He's
healthy now. But you see how much the Rams use
their tight ends. So I thought that was an awesome pick.
I think you might see dividends this year, but he
will be the tight end of the future as soon
as next year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Awesome pick. But then Gadston, like that was at the
end of the last pick.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
You love tight ends, dude, It's well, it was this class,
Like I love the running backs and tight ends of
this class just because it is historically one of the
better classes for both, you know, and there was a
lot of studs, So I think, like what I'm getting
at is is like a lot of value fell and
a lot of good teams capitalize. Like you notice the

(01:00:56):
trend here, like Gadston, Chargers traded back up for him,
and they traded on the top of the fifth round.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Like there's a concert trend where it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Like these good gms were like, guys, we're gonna play
the board right, We're gonna draft these guys, and we know,
just because of how deep it is, a lot of
good players are gonna fall, and that's when we make
our move, right when it doesn't cost that much to
trade up, or you know, it's picks that you feel
more comfortable moving.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Because, like the Lions, they gave up a ton.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
But Gatston Man the reason why I think he's an
undervalued player. I think he's a really good receiving tight end.
He was really good at Syracuse this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Here's the wide receiver at Syracuse before he swept over
the tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
He was a hybrid exact dude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yes, so he's got hands, he just can't block yet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
No, And and that's like that's the thing that I
if you look at the Chargers depth chart, they have
blocking tight ends. Oh and I think it's interesting you
drafted receiving tight end right. And I'm not saying he's
gonna be Darren Waller, but when you have that highbred
tight end, that's now a mismatch that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
You can line, you know in the big slot. Things
like that, like fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Now you know you could have an undervalued player, right
that's really probably should have went higher than where he went.
And he's connected to a really good quarterback that doesn't
have a tight end, Like there's opportunity for him to play.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Day one. Harborough was thrilled to get him. He said,
you know, we love you. We have a plan for you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
To help us from day one, right, So I think
that's incredible upside for the last pick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Of a rookie draft.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You know, if he is the starting receiving tight end
for the Chargers this year, that's a great pick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
So yeah, that's why I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Pick, man, because I think there is some undervalue talent
there and there's a really clear path to playing time.
It's not like, you know, there's a Tyler Higbee there where,
you know, like, you know, he not going to play off, Like, dude,
there's nobody they have. They have Will Disley, you know
they have I'm forgetting the other one, but they have
like some some blocking tight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Ends, you know. So I like this kid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I think he could be a receiving threat from the
first year, which would be something because he's a fifth
round rookie tight end. But you know, the way the
NFL is evolving, I feel like all these rookies are
making an impact right away.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, Tyler Conklin is the one that's ahead of him
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Conclord, Right, Conclin Isn't he a good blocker though?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Yeah? Like he was, like he was a favorite sleeper
for most when he was on the Jets, Like everyone's like,
you know, oh, if I miss on tight end, I'm
getting Tyler Cocklin And how'd that work out? We we all,
we all fell for it. It's like, oh yeah, you know,
back to back seasons, I think get like eighty five
plus receptions, six yards, six touchdowns, you know, good enough
to be just throwing your tight end position and it
totally bombed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
No, that's not like there's there's really nothing in front
of him. Man, So unless Gadsden sucks, which he could,
you know, he went in the fifth round. But you know,
it seems like they really liked him. There's a need,
there's a vision.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Yeah, what what it's a good dart throw.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, I'll take it back. You know, if I had
the forty all over again, I would take Gatson. Now,
knowing that what I've learned down from you kind of
helps me say, you know what, I'll take the dart
throw and gats and instead, especially in tight end premiums,
because it's the fourth round and that's what you're supposed
to do is take dart throw upside picks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Absolutely, dude, that's exactly like that, especially if it's tight
end premium.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Definitely, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
You can even make arguments then for like guys like
gunner Helm or whatever. But I I think Gatston because
like I, it always comes down to the talent and
which who who's the quarterback throwing in the ball, you know,
but definitely tight end premium.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I would I would take the flyer. Was this tight
end premium?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Oh? This I would have took Ferguson.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Then well lets them learn, all right, one last question
that we'll I'll go ahead and wrap this up and
get out of here. Dnanasty full PPR. You know one
point seventy five for tight ends. Wow, well that is
quite the uh holy shit tight end scoring super Flags
started eleven twelveeen. Current lineup is Kyler Caleb at quarterback.

(01:05:11):
His running backs are Gentee Jalil. It looks like it's
it for that and the wide receivers are Brian Thomas Junior,
Lad McConkie t Higgins, tight End McBride, Hockinson, and it
looks like his other wide receivers also Rice and Rome.
He got offered Kamara and twenty twenty six first for

(01:05:33):
a Buca and Reed. I'm passing on that. I don't
want anything to do with Kamara twenty twenty six first,
which is early to mid, would be nice, But it's
like what if scenario because it's always hard to say like, yeah,
this guy looks like he's going to do this and
it bites him in the ass and say like get
that early to mid turns into a mid to late.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I'm passing on that. Give me Buka all day. If
this is Dynasty, this is the Yeah, this is full PPR. Yeah,
I get that. I Buka side all day. Now. The
pick would be nice, Like you said, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
If you can kind of swindle that without giving up
a Buka, that would be the move.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
But it would help us running back with desk. You know,
he could trade.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
He could trade t Higgins, he's deep at receiver. Who
receivers again?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Uh bridhamas junior Lad McConkie, t Higgins, Uh Rom Doda
and Rossie.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Rice you said, and yet oh yeah, dude, I would.
I would shop t Higgins in Rome right because Rome.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
The one thing with Rome is it's like, you know,
Caleb is set up to take off this year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I'm not a Caleb guy, but.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I do love the situation that he's in now, Like
that's hard to ignore, But who knows which receiver is
going to take off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
You got Luther Burden, now you still got DJ Moore there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
They drafted Loveland in the top ten, like you know,
so there's a lot of mouse to feed there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
But there's people that are still high on Rome.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
So you know, like if you could trade Rome for
like Traveon Henderson or something like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
That, I would do that in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
But also like with that wide receiver room man, like
you're you're cooking with BTJ lad Maconky, Like even with
Trey Harris, lads still gonna they are two separate roles.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
So he's still gonna do what he did last year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
And then Rashie Rice Like, dude, I I would trade
one year receivers and get a running back for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Absolutely absolutely. I always do that. Always do that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Actually target Hampton or Henderson. That's what I would do
with those two receivers. See if you could, you can
make something happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah, I think you have a better chance getting Henderson
they do Hampton just because I think a lot of
people know what the love for Hampton's gonna be, and
it's gonna be they're gonna want top dollar for him
just because they have just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Below gent Yeah, no, for for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Let me ask you a question, would you trade t
Higgins in Rome for Hampton?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Am I desperate? Because that sounds like I'm desperate, Like
if I'm that sounds like I'm giving up too much
to get Hampton, but also saying if I'm traded for
the one oh two.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Like here's here's my angle on this, and you could
probably get them the thirty some picks back to feel
better about the value.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I s's get a second or third round.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Back exactly, like I think you could probably even get
like Hampton in a second or like Hampton and change
like or two and a ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I always trade for picks back, like I always feel like,
if I'm gonna trade to pick away, I want to
pick up some towurter back, even if it's a twenty
twenty six pick. You know I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Right, Well, think about the setup and makeup of it.
I agree with you, but the setup and makeup of
his team, dude, Like sometimes in fantasy it's just like
you gotta trade like where you're deep to like if
he had genty and Hampton, that's kind of insane. So
it's like, how could I make that happen, you know,
pair the two receivers and get some picks back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
So you get you know, your dart throws, and you
feel good about the value.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
You know, and you've got the best player in the
deal and the best long term player too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yepred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Love it, love it, love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I'm well, let's go ahead, get out of here. Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Oh dude, I'm having I'm having too much fuble with you, dude.
I think I want to do another one. We might
have to, yes, sir dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
All right, be sure you know go to f F
facetoff dot Cole for all your fans football needs. Be
sure to subscribe to YouTube channel here. We're coming up
with a boat ton of content man like as you've
already seen Ernie, like the talk we had with the
group yesterday, So we're content coming your way. Plus Absolute
auction is coming this way, so I'm I'm very excited
bring that onto here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
You guys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Love it all, you guys who love auction content, You're
gonna be in for a whirlwind for Ernie and myself.
We'll talk to you guys later.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Signing off, guys, and see you later.