Kevin Brewer - Mindset & Weight Loss Coach

Kevin Brewer
Take a walk with me down Fascination Street as I get to know Kevin Brewer. Kevin is a U.S. Navy veteran, who served for 7 years in multiple overseas duty stations; before being employed by both the Department of Justice (DOJ) & the Department of Defense (DOD). In this episode, we chat about why he joined the Navy, and what his job was in it. We discuss his duties as a cryptologic technician, and what his role was in narco terrorism, money laundering, drug trafficking, counterintelligence, and counter terrorism. Kevin has Top Secret security clearance, and I ask him to tell me all of the secrets! He politely declines, and then we move onto his health issues. While serving in Afghanistan, Kevin developed several serious health issues which culminated in his gaining nearly 100 pounds, and an inability to exercise, run, or even walk to the refrigerator. He was in a pretty dark place both physically and emotionally. He ended up doing a ton of online research and began to figure out some things that turned his health around. Kevin changed his diet, adjusted his mindset, and sought out specialized STEM CELL treatment. Slowly things began to change. Kevin lost some weight, started narrowing down the food items that were triggering him and causing inflammation, and eventually lost the weight. He gives most of the credit to a change in his mental performance and adjusting his perspective. Now Kevin has acquired a depth of understanding with regard to 'Mental Performance Mastery' & 'Heroic Performance', as well as regularly competing in Spartan Races. Kevin's new mission is to share what he has learned and spread the knowledge he has gained during this process. He has a daily affirmation podcast called RISE AGAIN FROM THE STRUGGLE, which has released nearly a thousand 1–2-minute episodes of encouragement & inspiration. Follow Kevin on Instagram at Coach Kevin Brewer and check out his podcast everywhere podcasts are available.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Lorie Fatrick aka Ice from the American Gladiators,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome back, Street Walkers. This episode is with Kevin Brewer,
coach Kevin Brewer from the podcast Rise Again from the Struggle.
In this episode, I get to know Kevin and why
he started this podcast. What's really funny is we don't
even really talk about his podcast until way later into
the show. What we do talk about, though, I think

(00:54):
you will find fascinating. Kevin spent seven years in the
Navy before transitioning to because I'm a government contractor working
with the DoD and then eventually as a government employee
working for the Justice Department. We talk about some of
that stuff. I ask him for state secrets, he refuses
to divulge them, but we do talk about how he

(01:17):
got sick after being deployed in Afghanistan, some of the
things that happened to him health wise, which resulted in
other things happen into him health wise, which resulted in
other things happening to him health wise, and then finally
he discovers a way to lose weight which helps some
of the things that were going on. And then he
finds this other thing. It is called stem cell treatment.

(01:39):
It is a very specific, targeted stem cell treatment for
what he was going through. And he talks extensively about
that and why he decided to do those things, and
his transformation from where he was to where he is
is miraculous. There's no other word for it. The time
span for his transformation will blow your mind. Kevin also

(02:01):
has certifications from the program's Mental Performance, Mastery and Heroic Performance,
and he went from laying on the couch in too
much pain to walk to the refrigerator to now regularly
compete against Spartan competitions, which are endurance obstacle courses. You're
gonna love this episode. This guy is the Bee's knees.

(02:24):
Check out his podcast, Rise Again from the Struggle. He
has over eight hundred episodes for you to check out,
but they're all kind of short. Tell you all about
it right here in this my conversation with coach Kevin
Brewer from Rise Again from the Struggle for Beret.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
To be facinating.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Forgret to be fascinating, for Beretta to be facinating.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Welcome to Fascination Street Podcast. Kevin Brewer, what's up, dude?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Not much? How do you doing? Man?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I can't complain. I could, but nobody cares. Actually I could,
but not in front of you, because your whole thing
is about sucking it up. Buttercup. All right, So Kevin,
what we're gonna do is we're gonna get to know
you and the things that are you and the things
that you do, and while you do them. First of all, Kevin,
what I like to do is start from the beginning.
It helps us understand how the guests got from where

(03:19):
they were to where they are. So where do you
want to raise?

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Man?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Where'd you grow up?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Dad was in the Navy, So I was born in
San Diego and the nail based out there. Older brother,
younger brothers on the middle guy the coolest, and of
course mildn't was the coolest.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So it's sure.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, so, uh, you know, military family for a while,
and then moved back to my parents' hometown, grew up there.
Where's there Dallas City, Illinois. Anybody who's Mormon that might
be listening, it's close to Nauvo, Illinois, which is where
Mormon started. That's why I say that. But I joined
the military from there.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Why did you join the military?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
It's funny. There was just not any jobs in the area.
It's kind of small town area. So a friend of
mine from high school said, he came in to me
one day and said, Hay just joined the Navy. He
should come with me. You can go to boot camp together.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I said, Okay, did you get to go to boot
camp together?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Where was boot camp?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Was that Great Lakes, Illinois?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Okay, what did your dad say?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
How about the military?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Sne how about you joining the navy?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
He was really excited. Him and I didn't have a
good relationship out there. Actually at that time, when when
I was younger, we didn't have a really good relationship.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Grew up.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
He has an alcoholic, kind of abusive at first, and then
grew to, you know, have a much better relationship before
passed last year. But he was still proud of that,
you know, he talked about it all the time and
he was very proud of that himself. So he did
a lot of things for a vets in the community.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
So before your dad passed, did he turn a new leaf.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, So after him and my mom got divorced, actually
he changed significantly. So he stopped drinking quite a bit
and just kind of really opened up and really changed
his personality a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Can I ask how he passed?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, So he had lung cancer STAGS four. Then he
ended up getting like was a diverticulitis, and I think
he really died of more of malnutrition.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Really, Yeah, do you think he just stopped eating or
what do you think happened? Now?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
So the last six months you had just like extreme diarrhea.
I just literally couldn't eat anything, Like as soon as
you do, you do anything, he'd just be on the
toilet and couldn't keep anything down.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So, so is that part of articulatis?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah? I think so. I think it's kind of calmo
of that, and then the chemo drugs and just like
just never stopped smoking. There's just all that. I think
it's just kind of caught up to him.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I'm sorry about that. I'm glad that you guys
were able to repair your relationship before that happened, but
I'm still sorry it happened. App sure that How about
your mom? What did she say when you joined the Navy.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
She was really excited. She's happy for you know, she
thought that was the best move for me, just because
again in the area, there was just nothing there job wise, right,
you know, a lot there used to be a lot
of manufacturing jobs in the area. It's right then the
Iowa Illinois Missouri border area on the Mississippi, but they
had all moved out, so there's I mean, there's really
just not any jobs there and unless you did something

(05:56):
like farming and things like that.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
But do you think it was the best decision for you?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, for sure. I love learning. I learned all the time,
I read all the time, I do this stuff. But
I hate school. I don't like the way its structured.
I don't like the ways conducted. Nothing about it interest me.
I think they moved too fast and some things too slow.
In other things, they just too broad all the stuff.
So school was I was done with it. Like I
always got good grades, you know, an intelligent guy, but
it just wasn't my path in the future. So I

(06:21):
just needed to go do something. So yeah, it did
a lot for me.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
What did you do in the Navy. You were in
the Navy for twenty two years.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
So I was in the Navy for seven then I go, okay,
government contracting and now work with the Department of Justice
as a full time job. But where are you in
the DC region Northern Virginia? So are you familiar with
that all?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, my wife was in the Navy and she was
stationed in Bethesda for a while at the National Naval Hospital.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I'm not too far from there.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Oh, okay, cool. When you were in the Navy for
seven years, what was your job.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Was a CTT SO criptologic technician technical so fancy way
of saying intelligence. And I did noncommunication based signals intelligence,
so radar based stuff. Basically.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Were you on submarines or just s boats or land
Where were you?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yep? So I did my first three years was in
Hawaii on subs. I rode subs. We got to our
mission a couple months at a time, come back to
that multiple times a year. I was kind of in
and out constantly. I came over here to the DC Region,
to the National Continent's Office, or I did national level
stuff from here. Actually ended up on a surface ship
for two weeks, given some training to some surface ships

(07:32):
on a program a system they're putting on the on
the boats. And then while I was underway for that,
I got a phone call said, hey, here, you're going
to Afghanistan. I was like, why the hell did you
call me on the boat to tell me it's going
to Afghanistan? And I said, well, I'm supposed to be
on shore duty, but I guess you never said whatich
shore I was going to be on. So I got back.
I ended up going on training a couple months later
for three months of training effectively just another boot camp,

(07:54):
and then went to Afghanistan for a year and came
back and it's when of all my health stuff started.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
So when were you in Afghanistan?

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Seven o eight?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay seven eight. This is gonna sound like a dumb question,
but was anything going on over there at that time? H? Yeah, off.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
And I was in for all province, part of a
provincial reconstruction team, basically fancy way of saying that they'd
go out and build, you know, win the hearts and mind,
so they build wells, roads, things like that. So I
was the intel guy for six months there. I also
did some syops operations, so I got on convoys and
tried to get them to love us, you know kind
of thing. The next six months. I was the head
of communications and so I was the one talking to

(08:29):
the convoys and everything and making sure they had any
kind of medivact and things like that run on the
shop there. Our province was pretty calm for the most
part at that time because the Marines were not allowed
in country for ale while. But as we were leaving,
the Marines were coming back in the country and all
it help broke loose because they started doing more a
little small outposts and stuff. So the little safe havens

(08:49):
the Taliban had and that province, uh, we're no longer
safe haven.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
So but the Marines is part of the navy. Is
that correct?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Technically their department in the Navy.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
So confused because as far as I understand that Afghanistan
is nothing but desert and mountains, Like, why is the
Navy in Afghanistan?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah? Really, we were filling they called an individual augmentation,
so we would fill spots that the army couldn't man
because they just had, you know, rotation was just so thick.
So they would put us in spots to do all
the support stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
So when something like that happens, so they put an
entire navy. I don't know if they're called battalions or
what are regiments? What do they call a whole group
of people in the Navy command a command? So do
they put a whole command out there or did they
just pick up Kevin and PLoP him down in the
middle of an army battalion?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, pretty much. So it's all individual augmentation. So they
just randomly take people here and there. So they just
go to each command and say, hey, give me one, ten,
fifteen people, whatever it is, and then we all get
assigned to something.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
As a civilian, we see all this saber rattling, you know, like, hey,
go army, beat navy. Go ahead and beat army. Yeah,
nobody likes it, but when you're in the shit, none
of that matters, right, y'all are all just doing the thing.
Did they treat you any different? Is what I guess
I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
It depends. Sometimes I did, sometimes I did, and so
it really kind of individually. So there was a lot
of these still back and forth in that and especially
up in the upper chain of command, there was some
back and forth. People not say nye to I think
they run things differently, stuff like that. So we would
catch some shit sometimes, especially in the lower lower inside
in the middle where would get some infighting and stuff,
and then most time we could just kind of solve

(10:33):
it on our own and just let the up brush
along kind of duke it out, and we would just
kind of bear the bront of it. But I just depended,
you know, like it's more of an individual thing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
That sounds awesome. So after you got out of the Navy,
now you work for did you say the Department of Defense?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah? I did contracting with the Department of Defense.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's past tense. Yeah, okay, what do you do now?
What can you say?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I actually work for the Department of Justice. I build
a finding networks. So I built out financial money laundering
networks for criminal organizations.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm sorry, what did you say?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I research and develop and build out financial networks for
criminal organizations to combat money laundering operations for.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh, to combat money laundering.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not money laundering yet.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The way that came off, I was like, I work
for the government to build money laundering networks. That sounds weird.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, that would be fun.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, here's the question. I needs to do me a favor.
I don't know if you can. If you can't do
it then just say you can't. But if you can
do it, just say you can't. That way nobody will
know what the hell's going on. Will you build into
all of that networking? Will you just funnel a ton
of cash to my bank account? Yeah? Sure, Yeah, you're

(11:53):
just to say I can't.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Oh, I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
How did you get into doing that?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I did some of it, and the Navy kind of
the open source or all sources they call all source,
So basically I'm more of generalized intel, So I just
kind of go through different levels and different types of
intelligence and then put it together. When I got out
and did more contracting stuff, I started getting further into that,
and then I got into doing some stuff more on
the do D side and then DoD side supporting law

(12:19):
enforcement based off that because that contract was going away,
and I ended up like switching over to a different
contract during COVID to do the Department of Justice fully.
And then twenty twenty three I joined the government, or
rather noon contracting as actually government positions, so I just
switched titles and set in the same seat.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
So you're a civilian contractor government employee.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Now I was a contract yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
A government employee. You work a contract now you okay,
do you work at the Pentagon?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
No? No, no, Can you.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Get me into the Pentagon and then also funnel all
that cash to my banking.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, of course. Now if you don't want to go
to the Pentagon, it's a it's a hassle to get to.
It's full of full all kinds of random people who
think they're important. What most important.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Treatment and all? Huh yeah, okay, So we're gonna jump
around a little bit. Kevin. You mentioned that when you
were in Afghanistan for that basically one year that after
that is when you started having health problems. Yep, what kind?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So on my way back from Afghanistan, I ended up
getting I think it was a swine food at that time.
So I was like just down and now hard. And
I also had the science infections on my whole left
side was completely full of infection, on the right side
was half full, had a couple of hernias that had formed.
So I was in pretty bad shape. Start getting treatment
for all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
So hold on, you said on the way back, were
you on a boat on the way back or a
plane plane? So on the plane You're just like, what's
going on.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah. So actually at that time, because I was so congested,
I was using the nasin nex and nasal sprays.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Are you not supposed to fly if you're congested like
that in your head? Probably cool?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But yeah I was. It was pretty bad. I'd had
it for about six months or so, and they just
they just kept giving a Z pack a couple of times,
and the z pac didn't work fast enough. Then they're like, oh,
I must not be an infection, and then it's gonna
let it go. By the time I got back, I
could hardly breathe. So I was using the nasals pretty
so much. Effectively gave myself a heart attack on the plane.
My heart rate just like skyrocket. I had started having

(14:14):
chest pains and stuff, and I started like passing out
on the plane. And then we get back and then
did the X rays and everything. Yeah, it was like
my face was completely full of infection. They're like, yeah,
you really need a really strong and embotic now.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But then you you landed and you got some medical
treatment and they gave you another Z pack and then
you were all good, right, you were fine.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly that. When done, so they gave
me like a long term antibiotic, which is I didn't
know at the time, causes ligament and tended damage. And
I have psoriasis to turn into storiotic arthritis, which obviously
causes ligament ten and damage as well. I didn't know about.
So all this combined, and then I was still getting
over the sickness, you know, because I really took a
toll on me. I had the surgery and all that

(14:52):
stuff for the hernia.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh okay, surgery for the hernias.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Okay, And I was still kind of getting back from
all that stuff, and I of course went to the
weight room felt popping my upper neck up in the
upper back and lower neck area, you know, did the
smart thing, went and played basketball instead of stopping. From
that point on, I just haven't had all kinds of
like heart rate issues and chest pain.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And what was that popping in the snapping? What was that?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I don't know what it was one hundred percent, but
I'm pretty sure it was just like a disc in
my back upper back, thoracic like bulging. It just caused
all kinds of neurologic issues and stuff, and then eventually
led to cervical instability. Effectively, I was decapitating myself every
time I would look up. After about thirteen years of
misdiagnosis and stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Wow, yeah, well that sounds like it sucks, bro.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, every year, basically I kept getting worse and worse,
and then I had other things going on in there too,
So like that started in two thousand and eight and
just kept progessily getting worse. So I found a rhythm though.
In about twenty twelve or so, I started getting chiropractic
therapy and Horizona injections. It kind of calmed some things
down for a little bit, you know, off and on.
So I ended up getting a motorcycle at that point,

(15:58):
and of course I promptly backed that and shout my
red the radio had and my elbow, so now I
have a fake elbow.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, none of this is funny. That's why it's so funny.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
That sounds terrible.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, you know, that was actually a really funny event
because I was driving and I had only had it
for a couple of months and another bike could you know,
do you ride it all? Yeah, so you know the
two fingers salute, so another bike could went by, and
now you know, we waved each other and then of
course I went to go increase speed or whatever, and
for some reason I just got completely backwards and I

(16:32):
pulled the brake, the front brake to clutch, and then
of course the bike just stole out and went straight over.
So I went straight into the asphalt, face first, elbow first,
you know, tit's over ass, you know kind of thing.
The bike just knocked my leg. So my leg was
just like twice the size. My right leg was about
twice the size that it normally was, and my elbow
couldn't move it, and I just kind of hobbled to

(16:52):
the median and when the ambulance came over, the paramedic
was sitting there arguing with me about you know, like, oh,
your elbow should be fine with your you know, he
definitely broke the leg, and I was like, no, you
one percent got that wrong. It's like my leg hurts
for sure. Was like it feels like a major Charlie horse.
I was like, so once I get moved, it's fine.
I was like, but I'm telling you right now, I
can't move my arm, and he's like, no, no, you
got that wrong. Of course I was on a percent right.

(17:14):
My elbow was shattered and my leg was fine. It
was just contusions. But during that event, there was actually
a drunk driver that ended up getting caught because he
hurrecked right next to me. So and this was like
I think two o'clock in the afternoon. So I got
a drunk driver busted at least got someone off the
streets because of my wreck.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So so, because the drunk driver saw your your accident,
was like holy shit, then he wrecked.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, yep, that sucks. So he got arrested, and I
was pretty for me.

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Speaker 1 (19:11):
Let's get back into it.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I'm gonna ask you a question and you can tell
me to fuck right off. You worked for twenty two
years on classified military and federal law enforcement initiatives. Tell
me the biggest classified secret that you worked on No, Okay, cool,
So okay, So what does that mean You worked on
classified at military and federal law enforcement initiatives? What are

(19:37):
law enforcement initiatives?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
At times they tried to do the like whole off
government approaches to look at different larger networks and larger
problem sets, different organized crime groups.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
So this is all within the scope of money laundering and.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Some of it, Yeah, drug trafficking when they laundering, narco
terrorism what they call to, Like, I'm not a big
believer actually believing that narcotics and terrorism actually overlap all
that much. There's some some overlap, but it's not as
nearly as much as what they try to make it
out to be I think personally.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
But and you're basing this on your extensive experience in
the field behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, on both sides. Yes, I've been counter terrorism. I've
done straight intelligence of like other nations, and I've done
law enforcement intelligence, and I don't particularly see it overlapping
that much. I mean, they have some trade routes and
stuff that are similar, and they overlap from time to time,
and there's some mutual beneficial agreements, but they usually end
up in fighting after a while because they have different
methods and their end goals are always a different.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
So it's not like we all hear or think that
the cocaine I buy tomorrow is gonna fund a terrorist
cell in Afghanistan next week.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, not usually, so even if the Afghanistan, So there's
there's a lot of black to our heroine come out
of Afghanistan. So there's a prime throp it's poppy there.
That's one of the easiest things to grow in that region.
So there's a lot of heroin that comes out of Afghanistan.
But even that's not necessarily controlled by most of the
terrorist groups because the terrorists are ideologically motivated to overthrow governments,
whereas the drug traffickers just want money.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
So where do the terrorists get their money?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Basically prove force. They go and steal it, They steal
different items, they scare people, basically things like that.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
So they learned it from the Italian mafia probably, Yeah,
Like it's it's that kind of a thing where they
just go take whatever they want or intimidate the ship
people to give it to them.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, pretty much. And I do ask some people that
just support them or you know.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like sure ideologically.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
They believe in it. Yeah, So they do that. They
do a lot of what they call io campans yops
basic psychological operations or intelligence operations or information operations. One
of the things that people don't know about from the
Afghan War, for instance, you know a lot of the
Taliban or the Musia, you know the terrorist fighters, you
know I Al kay to isis all those guys. They
don't have a uniform. So what'll happen is like they'll

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be shooting from a building, will blow building up, and
all of a sudden they'll go take the guns off
the people, and since they don't wear a uniform, they
just take a picture and go, look at these civilians,
you guys killed. Those are information operations, so they'll put
that on the internet or whatever, and then we here
in the United States think that, oh, we're just killing
a bunch of civilians, Like, no, they just took the
gun out of the do the hand that was sitting
out of a window shooting at these troops going by,
you know with RPGs and things, And then go, oh,

(22:11):
you killed Azilion. Now I killed you know, somebody who
was shooting at me.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I'm assuming this kind of thing only happens in Afghanistan,
not in any conflict that's happening right now.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Right of course? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Cool? All right, right, just making sure how clearance was
your classified status? How classified was your clearance status? You
know what I'm asking ts, I don't know. I don't
even know what that means.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Top secrets. I have the highest classification.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
You have the highest one other than the president. That's cool,
it's pretty sick. What's my classification? None classify fascination?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh I love that. Remember I'm taking that one. Did
you work your way up to that classification or did
was that your first one? Like? Did you just walk
into top secret or did you have to work your
way up?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah? So the job I did the Navy required it,
so I got to want to join the Navy.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So so you've been top secret classified for all this
time and you still are. Yeah, how come they're letting
you talk to me because you're not telling me anything? Cool?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah? Pretty much?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Are they listening?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Sweet? You won't say hi to anybody?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Hi Bert, are you exactly high?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Irving? Wow? That's cool. Okay, So you had these health issues,
and at the time that these issues started, you were
in pretty good physical condition, right, Yeah, I mean you're
lifting weights and playing basketball with broken necks and shit.
So I would imagine you're you're in pretty good shape. Yeah,
but then what happened was all of these things that

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happened just you stopped working out and then your health deteriorated.
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah? So pretty much anything movement based on costs of
your problem. So I had, you know, if you know
the symptoms of a heart attacking stroke, I really have
those every single day for thirteen years, and then they
just amplified, and then I started having other neurologic issues.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
So how are you going to work every day if
you're having these kinds of intense pains and decline declining
quality of life?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
It was very hard, and in fact, right before COVID
I was actually driving to work. I had three ice packs,
a heating pad, and those tense machines that those stim units,
you know what I'm talking about. I had one of
those going at all times, and I would have that
a work going on too. I spent a lot of
time standing and kneeling just because I couldn't. It was hurt,
hurt to sit. I started getting like brain fog, I
started getting my face was like numb and tingly all

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the time.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Now, a regular person, especially in America, would just go
get disability and not go to work. How come we
didn't do that? I know you laughed, but ninety nine
percent of America would do that.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I actually don't. I
don't really know why I didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
How come they didn't tell you to fuck off? How
come they didn't tell you to go home?

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I would give my work credit. They did a lot
of wonderful things for me in terms of that. So
at one point I had what's called tethered cord syndrome.
So every time I'd bend over, my spinal cord would
get pulled down and I had to get end up
getting surgery for that.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Do you mean pulled down out of the spinal canal.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, So your actual spinal cord terminate. It's about the
middle of your back and then the rest of it.
It's just like your nerves go into the red into
your body, but there's a piece of skin that holds
your spinal cord to your tailbone. So like when you're
getting formed in vitro, it doesn't like go off into space.
You know that Usually over time that becomes more elastic
and then it just so your spinal cord can move
up and down your column as you bend over and

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things like that. Well, mine eventually just got stuck and
it just it didn't move anymore. So probably because I
had right, sorry, I can thrice always like a intendin issues.
So every time I'd bend over, it was effectively pulling
my spinal cord instead of letting it like flow upwards,
it would keep it down. So it caused all kinds
of pain and pressure lower body. I would just have like,
you know, twelve out of ten pain. It felt like

(25:56):
I had a pee literally all day. Every day. It
was just ruber bad. Just I couldn't bend over more
than two times a day, I mean including getting in
out of the car. So I had a plan when
I would go and get gas if I just go
to like softball practice when I was coaching softball the time.
So I was like all these things were really hard,
but my work, since I couldn't sit at work, I
was literally kneeling on my chair backwards and standing up

(26:17):
and just altering between the two. And then sometimes they
let me like that would just let me they give
me like an office to go lay in just to
decompress sometimes, just because that's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Pressure, literally decompressed, like physically, not just emotionally, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, just because there was just so much pressure
built up in the system, I just go like lay
down for a little bit. And I had like a
training class at that on one point during that whole
phase too, and I was like literally like laying on
my side listening to the training, and they were really
cool about the whole thing, Like everybody was like, you know, hey,
just hey, you're here. We're cool to just so it
never became a distraction stuff. And I know that's actually
very odd and that's not normal.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
It is that means you're so valuable that they're not
going to let you die. They're just going to put
your brain in a jar and keep working. Good God,
I'm assuming that this caused you to gain some weight
all this lack of movement.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, so I didn't understand weight loss at the time,
And of course I went from being really active to
being not active at all, and eventually I couldn't be
ablet go from the couch to the fridge without basically
breaking down. So I wasn't really moving at all. I don't.
But I was eating like I was moving all the time.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
You're eating regular but moving less.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah. So I ended up gaining a ton of weight.
I was two forty plus. I was about to put
on a size fifty pant.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Do you say size fifty fifty?

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I was in like forty eight at the time, and
I was pushing those So I was like, I can't,
I can't continue this.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
How tall are you?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
About six feet?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So it was pretty big. So as I got into
this mental performance stuff, I found this guy Brian Kane,
Taco Willink, David Goggins.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I found all those guys and just started like following
them guys. And I was like, you know what I
can control? What I can control? And I said, you
know what one thing I can control is my weight
and how I eat.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
So I just started doing better with my food and nutrition,
got that under control, lost a bunch of weight, ninety
pounds overall.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
How long did it take you to lose ninety pounds?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
It's about fifteen months or so.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I didn't do anything crash diet or something like that.
I didn't starve myself. I just literally because I wanted
to make it a lifestyle and needed it to be
sustainable just in case. So I just started, you know,
doing portion control first. And then there's a Japanese motto
that says, you know, stop eating when you are no
longer hungry. So I started just paying attention to the
signal there, and when I would have a signal, eventually

(28:27):
it's this kind of you go from being starving, feeling
like you're starving to just not really being hungry but
you can still eat kind of thing. So I just
stopped there. So I got a lot of things under control. Well,
I was pretty diabetic at the time. Got that under control.
I was on gird medication. I was on medication for
the psoriasis and sorry acarthritis and called mix mixed connective
tissue disorder, so I was about several rheumatologic drugs. Once

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I started losing all the weight, getting all that under control,
getting my food and diet nutrition under control, I was
able to drop all those medications, I mean, lost all
the weight things like that, and now it's sustainable. Now
I have a method that I use all the time.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
So you lost this weight through diet, not exercise or
diet and exercise.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, I couldn't have decided at all. I couldn't do anything,
so it was just strictly diet.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay. Now at this time, are you married, do you
have kids, do you have significant other? What's your personal story.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Married to kids?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Okay? So while while you're going through all of this
before you found Jocko and your weight loss regimen, when
you're having all these pains and you're you can barely
walk and all this other crazy shit, what are your
wife and kids doing? Thinking?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Saying that was really tough because I was still coaching
travel baseball and softball with them. And then eventually, as
I said, as I got you know, degraded and further
and further, it became harder and harder.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So the your kids were children at this time?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, are they children now? I have no IDEA.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Senior in high school on a sophomore in college.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay, So at this time they were young, young Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And actually my son was I think Wanish when it started,
so he was really young.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh Jesus. Okay.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, So it was really hard. It became a thing
where it's like I couldn't really go with them places
because by the time I'd get there pretty much my
body would be such disarray that I wouldn't be able
to last very long. So I was ruining experiences for
them because by the time we get wherever, it were like,
they were more worried about how much pain I was
in and things like that, and I was becoming a
distraction really.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Now mentally, that must have been maybe even extra hard
on you, knowing that you didn't have the greatest relationship
with your father and then here you are the dad
and you can't really participate enough meaningfully with your children.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, for sure, it became really hard because I couldn't
do it the way I wanted to do. Yeah, so
that was very tough, and especially with my wife. My
wife wanted to travel. We'd always talked about travel and
doing all these infant vacations, and I just I couldn't
do it. Like I couldn't get on the plane. My
body wouldn't handle anything like that. So can you now, Yeah,
I travel quite a bit. Now.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
You lose I don't know, like one hundred pounds or something,
right ninety something like that. Yeah, refre can't be all
you did because you were having all this pain before
you gained the weight. So how is it that you
are able to be mobile during COVID.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Actually I ended up kind of getting and you can
hear I I'd sniffle a lot things like that. I
actually have tourettess, and that's a Tourett's sub symptom. So
when COVID happened, I was in an office space and
all of a sudden, this these things and might clear
my throat and sniffling and all those things became very profot.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
So did you always have tourettes?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, I was at it. My camera's broken for whatever
reason right now. But like I blink a lot too,
and I almost bick, like wink and blink, and I
don't do it intentionally. So I've always had that growing up.
But again, when COVID happened one I was already having
trouble enough to getting work and I actually went in toll.
My boss was like, hey, I don't know if I
can continue that, might start taking leave without pay. I
almost say, thankfully, but thankfully me tourettes kicked in and

(31:45):
somebody got freaked out because I was like sniffing, coughing
and things like that a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh it's because it was COVID. They were like, oh shit,
this guy's gonna kill us all.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah. So I ended up like getting kicked out of
the office by the contract lead. Nobody knew, like the
government know that she did this. She did it on
her own and basically said if you don't leave now,
you're gonna get fired. It's like what the fuck? So
I had to leave, And then the government people called
me and said like that should have never happened. But
you know, hey, we worked this out to our You
can actually just stay home because of this and you'l
still get paid. And I was like sweet. So I

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ended up staying home the rest of the time.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Were you working or not working from home?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Doing some stuff more like research and then like learning
skills and that, Like, yeah, I just did a lot
of classes and skill based stuff like learning different skills.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Like mental performance, mastery and heroic performance.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, not that one a time. There's a lot of
Excel based stuff, so a lot of stuff will work.
But I didn't do that. Yeah on my own time.
I ended up being doing that one. But yeah, so anyway,
so I said, you know, hey, the doctors don't really
helping me. I fought so many doctors at this time.
I saw probably one hundred plus doctors. Most of them
didn't really help me. I didn't want to help me.
Some even literally just said his PTSD anxiety, this and that,
and they just wouldn't even like look into it at all.

(32:51):
They just kicked me out the office. So I said,
you know what, I don't know how to redimorize, but
I do know how. I'm an analyst. I can I'm
trained at this, so I can look at two things
and see if sort of the same, look at patterns
and things. So I just started looking at my MRIs.
I started looking online to see what was considered normal
and what looked abnoble for mine, and just started asking
questions on things like Reddit and different places and came
across some answers that way, and then some articles through

(33:13):
Facebook and things, and I ended up finding that I
had what it's called ser cranial cervical instability. Found a
doctor in Colorado to stem cell therapy for that specific thing.
I ended up getting out to him and done a
core treatment I think with him since twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
And so this is what's helped you become a mobile
human person again. Yep.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
So it tightened the ligaments the whole then skull onto
the neck and then and then I mean eventually did
more legandess thughout the body and different things in my
back and shoulders and things to kind of stabilize things.
Between that and just doing those more dedicated physical therapy
I pay. That's all I pocket too, because it's none
of as cover by insurance, but dedicated physical therapists and
just kind of rebuilt myself from the ground.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
And so now your wife is happy because you get
to travel again, and your kids are happy because you
get to do things.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, they're teenagers and often calls yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So they're teenagers, so they're never happy. I got you.

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Speaker 1 (35:33):
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Speaker 3 (35:42):
Tell me what is mental performance mystery?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
So that's really kind of how I started with my
weight loss, was just understanding my cravings and thought process
and stuff around food. So I was able to control
I do with the control of controllables and say, okay,
I can deal with that, and then look at my
habits and then start changing my habits and then I
was able then to cycle it into was I started
to get better. Right, So when I started getting the treatments.
I said, Okay, well I can't really walk right now,

(36:07):
but if I'm going to be able to, I have
to start somewhere. So I use this stuff to say, look,
let me, let me evaluate this and look and say,
if I can walk two hundred meters and it was
literally just two hundred meters, I got to start there.
That's all I can do, and that would take me
like an hour, and I have to like talk to
myself the whole time because my brain was freaking out,
going like this is going to kill you. So I
had to start evaluating things in a different scale and

(36:28):
so to go, okay, is it worse than it's ever been?
If no, then I'm not making it worse. It's just
my brain has to realize we're safe and then go
from there. So I just started doing that, and I'd
have to stop and take breaks and take you know, breathers,
and let my body calm down and brain catch up
to that thought process, and then I just kept working.
When that became easier, I had a little bit distance.

(36:49):
Eventually I realized I want to do like push ups
and things like that, so I added one push up
a day, literally just one push up a day and
built up from there and it kept growing and just
all just through mindset and just being resilient, just going Okay,
let me evaluate this. My brain's going to freak out.
It's going to tell me to stop. But if I
can in the middle of that, stop that process of
freaking out and go is it the worst it's ever been?

(37:12):
And if it's the answers no, then I'm not making
it worse, So let me go ahead and continue doing this.
And it was very tough at first and then eventually
became easier over time and then became just kind of
second nature eventually.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
So what is heroic performance? What is that? That's a
thing that you're certified in? What is that?

Speaker 4 (37:32):
The Heroic program? I have an app it's called Heroic
initially they call it the best self development tool out there,
like you know app or whatever. They just go through
a coaching program with that, and that's actually I ended
up getting to the Spartan Races was through the coaching
program with them. Their final the certification is to do
a Spartan event. Yeah, so that's how I kind of
got into the Spartan Races, building myself to be able

(37:52):
to do that.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
What's the spartan race.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
It's the obstacle course race. They have different different distances,
So I started out with the five k, and then
they have a ten and then a twenty one k
and then then like fifty k.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
What is on this obstacle? Of course, it's.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Usually in a mountain or sometimes like in a family
farm things. I had a couple more of my family farms,
but usually in a mountainous region, so a lot of
hill runs and things like that. They have barbed wire crawls,
they have mud pits you gotta jump through that are
like just water go onder everything, monkey bars, you got
a spear throw.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
So just today I understand this correctly. You went from
not being able to get from the couch to the
refrigerator to doing these spartan races where there's monkey bars
and fucking rope swings. Yeah, and this you think is
a result of weight loss and stem cell therapy treatments?

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Yea, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Why are you not on every national news station? Right?
I'm confused.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
That's what I'm here for, man, I'm trying to get
the story out. Let people know about this stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Holy balls, yeah, man, heroic performance. Tell me more about
this I'm so sorry I interpted you.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I'll blow your mind a little bit more here too.
So my first race I did was in September twenty
twenty three. I did a five k in DC, this
five k spartan race in DC, and it took me
an hour and a half. I did with a buddy
son ninety minutes. I did the same race last year,
but I did the ten k and the five k
in the same weekend, the same course, and the ten
k I did in ninety seven minutes.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I doubled the distance and basically did at the same
time in just a year's time frame.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
So which do you think is the most responsible for
this miraculous turnaround, The diet or the treatments.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I think one hundred percent they're the combo of the two,
because the treatments themselves would have helped. But the ligament
damage I was doing by not controlling that by being
heavy chronic Yeah, well that, but also the chronic diseases.
So if I eat wrong, like my story, acro thrice
will kick in and I have a lot joint pain,
a thing like that. So like being able to get
those under control via the diet first allowed the stem

(39:53):
cells to work properly in the first place. I think
if I didn't have that, it would have taken longer
if it worked at all.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
So part of it is eating foods that are less inflammatory. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
that's a lot to digest. But we don't have a
whole lot of time left. So I want to talk
about You have a podcast, and this is insane. Everybody
check this out. Kevin Brewer has a podcast called Rise
Again from the Struggle. As we're recording this, and this

(40:21):
will be a bookmark of sorts for those listening as
we're recording this. Today was Kevin's eight hundredth episode of
Rise Again from the Struggle. Eight hundred episodes. I'm not
even at five hundred yet, and I've been doing this
for almost eight years. Kevin's been doing this for two years,

(40:43):
barely started it in December of twenty twenty two. Is
that correct?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
The eight hundredth episode came out today. Now, the peculiar
thing about these episodes is that there's only about three
of them that are longer than two minutes. Three episodes
which are like basically half hour interviews from people who
were foundational and helped Kevin with information and inspiration whatnot.

(41:11):
The rest of the episodes are somewhere around well most
of them are about a minute, but they can go
up to about two minutes and eleven seconds. Yeah, what
is the purpose of Rise again from the Struggle? And
why do you do it?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Like?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Why do you put out a sixty second episode every
single day? Well? First, why did you decide to do
the struggle?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
It was actually a challenge through on the coaching events
I went to. So Lady Lauren Johnson put on these events,
and the first event I went to her with in
November twenty twenty two, there was a guy named Jake
Thompson that was one of the speakers there. He does
Compete every Day podcast and that's company's compete every Day,
and he kind of challenges there to just start making videos.
So I just kind of started making videos and then

(41:55):
eventually just turn those you know, put those videos into
podcasts format to get them out in more places. Started
in December that year, I just said, hey, you know what,
let me let me just start here and do it
for a month and then just kept going.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
So why do you still do it? Your goal was
a month. We're twenty seven months into this, why are
you still doing it?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
So I'm building a coaching business on the side, a
coachman to be more resilient, understand that health is a
skill and mindsets of skill that you can use to
overcome pretty much any challenge in your life. So this
helps spread that message too, giving you useful tips and
thoughts things that come across my mind, and how I
use this stuff in a day to day basis, you know,

(42:34):
to better your life and become the best version of
you because you owe that to the world.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Why do you feel that that's your job? Like nobody
helps you. You had to find all this shit by yourself.
Why are you proselytizing this?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I would actually push back on that and say that
lots of people have helped me in the long run.
I had a couple of doctors that did try to
help figure things out, but I just could. They just
didn't know. It wasn't in their real house. So they
would spend some time with me and different things. I
could bunce things off there. The people at work that
put up with me, like literally having to lay down,
you know, that was a significant help. You know, things
I did for that lady. One of my team leads

(43:09):
basically put our job on the line to help me
out to be able to do some stuff at home.
So I had a lot of things that happened and
more people helped me in terms of stuff like that.
So because of that, and then also one of the
things that I didn't mention was that one of the
turning points there, I was letting in my closet one
day having one of these episodes and you know, major
panic attack and you know, having felt like I was
having heart attack again. I said, God, I don't I
don't really do this. I'm not I know, I don't

(43:31):
talk too much, but if you let me live through this,
I'll spread this. I'll figure this out, and then I'll
teach other people. So that's kind of the crux of
it where I started to do that, and it's like
and then I just started talking to more and more
people about it, and I felt that was my purpose
is to be able to teach people that they have
more control over their health than they know. There's a
lot of fake information out there, false information that's keeping
them sick. Since I have the you know, the intelligence

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in the background to analyze the stuff and look at
it and have a different perspective, and since I have,
you know, the psiriasis as a gift, you know, so
to speak like it sucks, But I know really fast
what foods affect me. So I have this kind of
like outward sign that I can help people learn how
to then find those smaller signs within them that they
can then do the same thing on a different scale.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Do you think that these bad foods, I'm not call
them bad foods. Do you think that they affect all
people the same? Or do you think that some people
aren't affected, aren't as affected by bad foods as others.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Nutrition is very individual dependent, so what affects me won't
affect you the same. Well, there'll be some overlaps, but
it's not one forul.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Like some foods are just bad, and then some foods
are just bad for different segments of the population or
worse for the different segments of the population.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yeah, you can. I don't know if I necessarily say bad,
because everything has a purpose in some fashion, Like if
you're severely colorqally deficient, there's almost no food that's bad.
Like if you really need the calories, like you get
it how you can?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, like plumpy nut, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
So you know, you get it how you can, Like
it's in a survival situation whatever, you know. But if
you're trying to optimize your health and you're trying to
live longer and healthier, there's things that you should you
should look at, you know, like you know, things that
would inflame you over, you know, things, So for instance,
a weird one. It was like broccoli, for instance, for me,
causes some inflammation.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
That's really surprising to me.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, but other people can have and have no absolutely
no issues. So you know, it's just you just have
to play around it and you start to kind of
notice it, you know, like different things. Somebody asked me
the other day, like what my relationship is with the scale,
and I was like, I weigh myself every single day,
and the reason I do it, I don't care what
the number says, because your foods will affect you differently. Like,
so if you eat something that your body doesn't really
register with or doesn't like, you may retain water, right,

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So you may gained a pound or two within one day,
and it's not because you've actually gained weight, You've just
retained water or inflammation. So when I use that, I
use it different ways for that. So, for instance, when
I do the Spartan Races, I gain about five to
ten pounds afterwards because my body's just four going like
what the hell does happen? And then over the course
of the next week or so during my recovery stuff,

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it'll drop down back to my normal weight. So it's
a measurable measuring tool to see what my food or
my training's doing.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Kevin, Are you on social media? Yep.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I'm on Instagram, I post on YouTube and thof like that.
So it's all pretty much the same message. It's for
the most part, but LinkedIn so at Coach Kevin Brewer
for pretty much all the platforms.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
At Coach Kevin Brewer, yep. Is that how you're build
when you're on other episodes on other podcasts? Like if
somebody was looking to find other things that you've been on,
is that how they would search it? Coach Kevin Brewer.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah. I pretty much put my name on every single post,
so you can if you just coach Kevin burw and
you can find me.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Okay, do you have a website, Kevin.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
It's being built. I had one initially that I changed
services and I was trying to do it myself, and
I suck at it. So I just said, screat I'm
just gonna pay something to dat.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Sure, what's the most basic yet most important thing that
you want everybody to get out of this episode?

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Wealth does a skill how you look at your perception,
your building to see the world as a skill. If
you never train it, then you'll have this negative self
image of things that you can't overcome, things you can't
deal with things. But really that's just limiting beliefs that
people I've taught you throughout and build you like you
don't have the ability to do well exactly what I did.
It's nothing I did with special It's just a matter

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of using my brain to my advantage rather than letting
it continue to defe meed.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
We talked about Rise again from the Struggle, your podcast,
which has eight hundred episodes so far, one comes out
every day. They're very small, they're micro episodes, Like I said,
they're roughly a minute long. And on that you cover
everything from how important is perception to pleasure and pain
learning and what we're really looking for when we're when

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we're seeking these things out to radical acceptance and mindsets
and everything in between. Do you envision this as just
sort of a daily affirmation for the listeners, like just
something to start their day with.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Yeah, that's really what it is. So it's like just
kind of different ways to kind of look at how
you think. Right, So it's like helping you build to
look at things in a different way. And once you
start doing that, you start building this curiosity. That's kind
I want to mention with you, is like your curiosity
really really is inspiring because if we're not curious, we
don't start asking questions even of ourselves. We don't start
questioning ourselves and how we're looking at things. You never

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actually realize where those beliefs came from. It's just usually
from somebody else. And if we never question it, we'll
never grow.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I love that. What great words to go out on
Kevin Brewer from Rise Again, from the Struggle podcast and
also from just being coach Brewer and helping inspire and
teach everybody else. Is there anything that we didn't talk
about or I didn't ask you about that you specifically
wanted to talk about on this show.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
No, I think we covered it in a lot of
that just nuntal capacity. You know, if understanding that all
this stuff is a skill that you have the ability
to learn. You just have to have the curiosity and
the desire.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Oh, Kevin Brewer from Rise Again from the Struggle podcast
also basically a life coach. I'll say it, you didn't
say it. Basically a life coach. He teaches people to
be inspired and to seek the truth and find things
that work out for themselves and how and why they do. Everybody,
go check out Rise Again from the Struggle. It's a
podcast available everywhere. Like I said, each episode is about

(49:18):
a sixty second affirmation. I think it's a great way
to start your day. I am subscribed and we'll be
checking that out. I've listened to a ton of them
so far, obviously not all eight hundred, because well I haven't,
but I think that I will add this to my
daily regiment of listening to stuffs. Dude, Kevin Brewer, thank

(49:38):
you so much for taking the time out of your
busy day and you're hectic, changing the way you and
everybody else lives schedule to hang out and let us
get to know you a little bit better on Fascination Street, Man,
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I appreciate you having on I love fun well.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
The pleasure was online and you have a great rest
of your week.

Speaker 9 (49:54):
Thanks you do, son, all right bye.

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