May 19, 2025 • 54 mins
Lips Speak Louder
Take a walk with me down Fascination Street, as I get to know Nashville based rock band Lips Speak Louder. In this episode, we get re-acquainted with previous guests Angela Lese and Rachel Brandsness. Each of these women had their own solo episode, where we got to know their back story. So we don't do that in this one. Instead, we discuss how they met, why they decided to start a band together, and why it was deemed necessary to make it a duo. Having been previously associated with the bands: Flarelight, The Dead Deads, Taco Mouth, Fingernails Are Pretty, Jax Hollow, and The Raelyn Nelson Band, and Emily Wolfe; this ultra-talented pair has developed their own unique sound. Rachel explains how she had to tinker with pedals and amps to manage a low end, fuller sound coming from her guitar, and the research that went into it. They explain where the name of their band comes from, and how they got Emily Wolfe to produce the album; which was recorded at Sweetwater Studios in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We do discuss their 10 track debut album 'Consolation Prize', and some of the tracks available on it. They even graciously let me play my favorite song from the new album! Make sure you follow them on the social medias, and check out their website for vinyl, merch, and tour dates. They will be supporting Emily Wolfe on June 14th at The Levitt Pavillion in Denver for Pride Night.
Take a walk with me down Fascination Street, as I get to know Nashville based rock band Lips Speak Louder. In this episode, we get re-acquainted with previous guests Angela Lese and Rachel Brandsness. Each of these women had their own solo episode, where we got to know their back story. So we don't do that in this one. Instead, we discuss how they met, why they decided to start a band together, and why it was deemed necessary to make it a duo. Having been previously associated with the bands: Flarelight, The Dead Deads, Taco Mouth, Fingernails Are Pretty, Jax Hollow, and The Raelyn Nelson Band, and Emily Wolfe; this ultra-talented pair has developed their own unique sound. Rachel explains how she had to tinker with pedals and amps to manage a low end, fuller sound coming from her guitar, and the research that went into it. They explain where the name of their band comes from, and how they got Emily Wolfe to produce the album; which was recorded at Sweetwater Studios in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We do discuss their 10 track debut album 'Consolation Prize', and some of the tracks available on it. They even graciously let me play my favorite song from the new album! Make sure you follow them on the social medias, and check out their website for vinyl, merch, and tour dates. They will be supporting Emily Wolfe on June 14th at The Levitt Pavillion in Denver for Pride Night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, street Walker's guess what I did a thing many
of you remember roughly a year ago. In May of
twenty twenty four, I put out an episode with special
guests Landon Bryant, the creator of Landon Talks, the Southern
inspired Instagram account that has taken the world by storm.
Since then, Landon has caught fire even more. Landon is
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a huge presence on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all over social media,
and he wrote a book. It's called Bless Your Heart,
a Field Guide to all Things Southern. He also created
a podcast called Landon Talks with Kate. Landon Talks is
one word, and Kate is his wife. And guess what
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they interviewed little old Meat. That's right for once. I'm
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got into podcasting, What are some of the pitfalls, my
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
This is Jeremy pop Off from the band Lit.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're listening to Fascination Street.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yea, yes, the amp fid you walk down the most
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Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let's get it when you wait for the fastest street
with Welcome back Street Walkers. This episode is with the
band Lips Speak Louder. Lips Speak Louder is comprised of
Angela Lissi and Rachel Brandsness. Both are previous guests, but
not together. Angela has been on with another band or two,
(02:19):
and so has Rachel with a previous band. But this
episode they're together, so we don't do the get to
know them as they're coming up thing. You can check
out their individual episodes for that. But what we do
talk about is why they decided to start this band
and why they decided to keep it simple and make
it a duo. Rachel does explain some of the pitfalls
(02:40):
and the technical skills that she had to learn in
order to make this two piece band sound loud and full.
And then we talk about their debut album. It came
out last month in April. It is called Consolation Prize.
We talk about the slow waterfall release of the singles
culminating in the album release last month. We also talk
(03:01):
about some of the things that you can get on
their website. You can actually buy the album on vinyl
and get this. It's magenta. I think it's a pink vinyl,
but Angela said it's Magento, so we'll go with her.
They got the hats, they got the hoodies, they got
the magenta vinyls. They have all the things. Their music
is dope as hell. You're gonna love it. In some ways,
(03:21):
it's a throwback to the nineties and in other ways
it's not. Whatever their inspirations and whatever your musical tastes are,
this is a unique album. Lips Speak Louder has their
own sound, and I think they're starting a new genre.
You do get to hear my favorite song off the
album in this episode, and I hope you take it.
Check out lipsspeaklouder dot com for tour dates, news on
(03:46):
new videos, and they've already started writing their second album,
so stay tuned. Lips Speak Louder is going to blow up.
They're everywhere. They're currently in Nashville, but they're branching out
and touring regionally and doing some shows around the country.
And this is my conversation with Angela Lissi and Rachel
(04:07):
Brand's ness of Lips Speak Louder. For Beret to be fascinating,
Forgred to be fascinating, for Beretta to be fascinating. Welcome
back to Fascination Street Podcasts. Angela Lssi and Rachel Brand'sness.
(04:28):
How are you ladies.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Doing doing good?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hi, we're great.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Thanks for having us one hundred percent of my pleasure.
Ladies and gentlemen street walkers, if you will. These names
may sound familiar because they have both been on here before,
but separately. Rachel was on with her band Flarelight, probably
about a year and a half ago or something like that. Angela,
Oh my goodness, Angela has probably been on this podcast
(04:53):
more than anybody else. And here's why. So I interviewed
her a long time ago. She was so cool. And
then because I have a habit of playing music from
bands that I interview on the show, Angela has also
been on these episodes. She was on an episode where
we talked about Taco Mouth, the Dead Dads, and the
(05:14):
Raylen Nilson band. Am I leaving anything out?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't know if you interviewed Jax Hollow maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh yeah, and Jack's Hollow the outthro theme for my podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, welcome back these ladies, Rachel and Angela. They have
a new band. It is called Lips Speak Louder, and
we're going to talk all about that. But first we're
not going to do the how did you get from
where you were to where you are think, because we
did that in each of their solo episodes. But we
are going to do is talk about how they met.
(05:46):
How did you guys meet?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, it was kind of one of those weird situations
where we've known the same group of people for probably
a decade, but just somehow had never crossed paths, even
though the national music scene really isn't that. But then
in twenty twenty one, my band Flarelight was playing a
show on the same bill as Jack's Hollow and Angie
(06:08):
was drumming for Jax that night, and Angie kind of
organized that show as well, so we met that night.
It was kind of a really busy night, so we
really only talked for I mean a couple minutes maybe,
but that was enough to be the introduction. And then
when I was doing this album release stuff with Flarelight,
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we knew that Angie helped bands do some kind of
promo and management and helped with their album releases, and
we didn't really know what we were doing, so I
hit her up just for some advice, and so we
met up to kind of make a plan for some
of that, and everything just kind of piggyback because then
from there, Angie was putting on or putting together like
(06:49):
a fem Foo Fighters tribute band for a show, a
couple of shows that she had, and she asked me
to play guitar and that, and that's when we started
playing together and we just had such a good time
doing it. We kind of thought, how can we make
sure that we get to play together all the time,
And that's kind of where the duo was birthed.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Angie, do you agree with everything? She said?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I do?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Do you have any notes?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No notes? We basically met through mutual friends, mutual bands,
and then like yeah, it was the fingernails at a
pretty band where we actually got to like play together
for the first time and realized, wow, we really jive
well on stage. We just play really well together, and
like obviously our personalities fit really well too, so we
like just hit it off from the very beginning. That's
(07:34):
how we met.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Love it. Who else is in lips speak louder?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You're looking at it nice?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yes, it is just the two utes. Okay, who does what?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and
assume that Angie's good to take care of the drums
in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I handle the drums, duh. And I do some background
vocal stuff too.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh read, well, I guess Rachel, you do everything else.
Who's writing these?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We write them together. I'll usually kind of create the
core concept for them and kind of sketch them out,
like with guitar and vocal, and then I'll handle like
a rough demo off to Angie and she'll go through
it and kind of create the drums and sends me
notes back on if something's not going to work or whatever,
and then we kind of revise from there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
She's being quite modest too, because basically I would say
Rach writes most everything and then like even sometimes like
she'll tell me, like what drums she thinks something should have,
and then I just ask her for the track she
created without the drums, so I can put down what
I would think would work, and then we work through
the songs together after that. But she does a lot
(08:41):
of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I would say, that's funny. I was going to ask
Rachel if you ever tell her how to drum, but
apparently you do something awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Sometimes when I'm writing the section, like there'll be a
section where I'm like, Okay, I know I kind of
want to broken down like halftime feel here or something
like that. And instead of just giving her a track
without drums and going all right, just read my mind
and guess what I was thinking, like, I'll send her,
you know, yeah, I'll give her a couple of notes sometimes,
but we like to see what each other like. I mean,
(09:10):
Angie writes really good parts, and there's times where she
had an idea that was different from what I kind
of at first was thinking that ended up being way better.
So like I never try to just tell her like, okay,
play exactly this and don't deviate, you know. Yeah, But
sometimes I have a cliff notes kind of ideas of
what I was thinking would fit.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You should try that one time just to see how
it goes. Say no, look, you played exactly like this. Yeah,
because I said so, Because I said so a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So yeah, it's really productive communication technique.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Are y'all in any other bands right now? Or is
this your sole project?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Are is Flare Light still a thing?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
It is? Where haven't been playing much recently. The main
other artists that we're playing for right now is Emily Wolf,
who's a really badass guitarist out of Austin, Texas. I
played bass for her at Angie Drums. We've been her
back being band on most of her dates over the
last yearish.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now you say from Austin. Is she currently in Nashville
and she's just from Austin? Or is she in Austin?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She's in Austin.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So when y'all play with Emily Wolf, do y'all go
to Austin?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We just zoom you know, like they put up the
big screens behind the stage and then we zoom in
and play. You know, Yeah, No, we go like or
she'll either come scoop us up if she's driving through
town on the way, or if it's down there, we'll
head down there, you know, so we just link up.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you had to guess, Rachel, how many times would
you say that you guys have come to Austin and
played with Emily Wolf.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
We've been to Austin a handful of times. I think
we've been and played in Austin yet twice? Does that
sound right, Angie?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah? Twice. We played a Last Fall with her at
the far Out Lounge, and then we just played south
By with her too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, so Angie, this is where you get into a
lot of trouble because you know, I'm only an hour
away from Austin and this is the first I'm hearing
of this. How Darry, I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Think you should check your email because I did tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I apologize. That's on me, guys.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's all good shit.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, Well, let's just do it all over. I'll call
up south By and see if they can just do
it over, and we'll call the Far Out and see
we can just do all that over.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do it over.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I've only gotten to see Angela play once live, and
that was a really, really long time ago. I even
took my kid ages. Yeah, ages, indeed, So why did
you guys decide to start lips speak louder. I know
that you said y'all work well together, but why do
your own thing? Why not just keep doing you know
(11:49):
the other things that y'all do together.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, it's more fun to play your own music, for sure.
Like it's fun to do tribute stuff once in a while,
but that can get old fast. And I have I'd
always wanted to, like be in a rock duo, and
I always wanted like a badass female to front it too.
And you know, no offense, but women tend to work harder,
(12:11):
communicate better, They're easier to work with, they're more patient.
Who for me, it's yeah, like I don't want you
to offend or I'm not trying to offend you personally,
but from my experience, like, I just thought that that
would be so cool, And I like, I love female singers.
Most of the bands I am obsessed with have female
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front they're female fronted bands. So I've always wanted to
do that. And Rachl and I were on the way
or she was on the way to a radio interview,
and I was just like, man, would you be interested
in something like that? This is what this was after
we already played together in the Foo Fighters Stout Beet band,
and like, after playing with her, I'm like, man, she
would like she would be great. She's fantastic, she works hard,
(12:56):
she's really smart, super talent.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And she's great. Yeah she's great at what she does. Yeah,
for sure, great what she does.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So I was like, here's a candidate. You know, this
would be fantastic and yeah, I just brought it up
sort of just like not flat out asking her, just
being like, you know, I've always wanted to do this,
and we're just sitting in the car driving to the destination,
and I was like, it could be like, you know,
be cool, like I've always wanted to do this, and
like I never flat out ass and I think Rach
(13:26):
responded with if you're asking, I would be interested.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, because she was kind of saying it in like
a sort of a vague way. So I was like, oh, well, yeah,
I mean if you needed somebody, I would definitely be
interested in that, and she was like, well, duh, Like
that's I was like, oh okay, but I didn't want
to assume and then have you be like oh girl, no,
not what I meant.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, not you or someone else. I was trying to
not assume that she was free to do that, you know,
because she was in another like she was in Flarelight,
and I don't want to like, you know, bogger now
with so much to do, but like I had crossed
my mind, had been on my mind. So like that
was when we first talked about it, which was like
the fall of twenty twenty two, and then maybe a
(14:08):
year later we started really investing in and starting that band.
So like probably the summer of twenty twenty three, I
think Rach started tossing around some like musical ideas for
the band, and then like we started like Lipspeak Louder
officially in like September, I think of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Got you Rachel to tag onto her. I didn't know
if she was just like somebody like you or like me,
or you know, she didn't want to be like, oh no, no,
not you. I just met you know, in general. So
my mom introduced me to this woman like a while back,
and she said, you need to date somebody like this woman.
And then I said, okay, I'll date that woman. And
then my mom goes, no, not her, somebody like her,
(14:48):
and so confusion ensued around me and that lady married
for over.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Twenty years, so safe assumptions then.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, so accidents work out great, sort of lips speak louder.
Where's that name come from?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a lyric from a y the Yeah Yeah Yeah
song Soft Shock. We've really liked them, and they're technically
a three piece, but their old stuff could have been
two piece because of the three you know, they've got
drums and then Nick on guitar and Karen O singing,
So if you put the guitar and the singing together,
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you would have kind of had a two piece setup,
and so we use them for a lot of inspiration
early on. We always joke that the hardest part of
having a band is figuring out what to name it,
because either the name you think of is super stupid,
or you think of something that is like halfway cool,
but then you go on Spotify or you Google it
and there's already a band that has that name. So
(15:44):
it's with the internet now and anybody able to release music,
which which is great, but it is increasingly difficult to
come up with a name that someone isn't already using.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, you're preaching to the choir Fascination Street podcast named
after a song Jesus. Right, So you guys decided to
put this band together, and then how long before you
started writing your own songs or did you guys already
have stuff to bring to the table for this project.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, it was a birth from the beginning. So we
didn't really bring ideas to the table other than like
we wanted to be a rock duo, you know, And
once like we started talking about the idea of the band,
Rach started doing homework on well, how do I make
this two piece sound big? So she really went hard
into thinking about how to Like it's a totally different
(16:35):
mindset how to write songs too. You know, how much
do you want it to Do you want it to
just sound like drums and guitar or do you want
some bass undertones on it? Do you want like layers
of stuff? So it's a whole new mindset of writing
for that. So we didn't really bring anything to the table.
Everything was from scratch and I think like twenty twenty
three so like and I'll let like Rache elaborate more
(16:57):
like I brought zero to the table. Like nothing like
most drummers, I'm just here to do my part, and
I have to wait for the inspiration. So once she
started writing stuff and sending me different clips than I
was starting to get my mind going like wrapping around
that because I want it to sound bigger than like,
(17:19):
you know, obviously the White Stripes are a duo, but
I wanted, you know, I want my drums to sound
bigger and fuller, like no disrespect to Meg White, She's
actually a badass and that was great for that music,
but we wanted it to sound bigger and thicker basically.
So yeah, didn't come to the table with anything, just
kind of started everything from scratch. But I really piggyback
(17:41):
off of rage and kind of let her take the
reins on not let her take the reins like she
took the rains to write the stuff and really do
some homework on how to craft songs for just you know,
for a two piece, and I barely did anything. She's
the mastermind behind it all.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I don't know about that. We knew we wanted to
do it with just the two of us. But for me,
if I ever go out and like see a show
and there's no bass, it bums me out because that
super fat low end is like really especially live, you know,
like that's the kind of part that like rumbles your
butt cheeks when you're standing there watching that, and like
the kick drum, and so I just was kind of
(18:20):
trying to figure out, like, man, I'm not going to
like it if it doesn't have low end in it somehow.
So I was trying to figure out how to do that,
which sent me down like a very fun but expensive
gear rabbit hole of you know, messing around with pedals
and things. And so I kind of I took a
(18:40):
page out of kind of the local age if you
know them, kind of out of their book, but not
quite so, Like he does the same thing where he's
basically playing guitar and bass at the same time, and
the way he did it was he's got an extra
pickup that he put in his guitar. I think it's
like a p bass pickup under just the e and
the A string the bottom two strings, and when he
(19:01):
plays that is getting split out into bass amps and
pitched down and all that. So I kind of did
a similar thing, but I did not cut up my guitar.
I send my guitar signal through a splitter in the
pedal board and then half of the signal goes through
the guitar effects through my guitar amp. The other half
gets pitched down to varying degrees depending on what I'm doing,
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and then gets sent into a bass amp. And so
that way I was able to like keep the root
under my chords in a bass frequency. So when I
kind of started to figure out that, that helped give
me context for how to write, because then it was
kind of, okay, how can I write the best songs
that I can write, but where they're kind of existing
(19:42):
a little bit within those rules. So the you know,
because if I write like a song that's got kind
of just a steady strumming guitar part, but the bass
is doing some kind of funk line, like, I'm not
going to be able to play both of those things
at the same time. That kind of helped inform the writing. Yeah,
and we just kind of drew off of like nineties
stuff and two thousand stuff and kind of pooled our
(20:03):
interests with what we liked. But from when I really
started getting serious trying to come up with the songs,
it took several months of kind of just trial and error,
just trying to figure out what the sound was going
to be and how we were going to recreate it live,
you know, successfully, because that was my deal is. I
didn't want to write songs that we really liked, but
then we go to figure out how to play them live,
(20:23):
and just think, man, there's no way we're going to
be able to pull this off without you know, two
or three other people.
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Speaker 4 (22:41):
Let's get back into it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Why the stickler about it only being a duo? How
come you guys didn't just go you know what? This
is hard? How about we just go get a bass player.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know what's hard is multiple people in a band.
It's hard to schedule things, it's hard to make sure
everyone's doing their part. I think rach is a fantastic songwriter. Sometimes,
you know, more minds can like add to your songwriting
and develop stuff. But sometimes it can make people butt heads.
There's so many reasons to whittle it down, Like if
(23:17):
we want to play live anywhere, we don't need multiple vehicles,
or we don't need to rent a gigantic passenger band,
we don't need multiple hotel rooms. It's pretty cost effective
for just a duo. And in this day and age
when touring is almost financially impossible for most fans, it's
smart financially if we want our band to be a
successful business, keeping it a duo really does help, like
(23:38):
in the financial sense, but also like we just get
along so well, and if we add someone else in
just to play bass, like the dynamic is going to change,
not necessarily for the better. It could, but there's many
factors and why like the duo it just seems like
the sweetened spot for us anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, and it's kind of been a fun thing that
has helped us stand out to you know, just because
people don't expect a duo period because they're just not
as common. And then when we go play, people definitely
don't expect us to have the bigger, fatter sound, and
so then when we do, it's kind of been a
cool way, like almost like an icebreaker. You know, it's
a lot of times like after the show, people are like,
(24:16):
how are you doing that? You know, like with sound
coming out of that bassam too, and like it's kind
of cool. It just kind of seems to get people's
attention and it was a fun creative challenge. But to
Angie's point, the un sexy answer is, I think like
people who don't tour have no idea like how difficult
it is to end a tour and not have lost money.
(24:38):
Like it maybe if you're if you're on the super
upper levels, like the Taylor Swift levels. You know, some
of those tours make a lot of money, but the
kind of indie touring is tough out there. You know,
a lot of shows really don't pay a lot, and
if you're trying to pay a four or five percent
band even three, but just the more people you have,
the tougher it is going to be to make sure
that everybody gets paid enough to make it worth their
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while and where they can pay their bills. So that
was part of our motivation too.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Rachel was flair Light a duo.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Creatively, yes, like it was just Tyler and myself who
wrote the songs, but when we would play live, we
had a drummer and a bassist with us. So on
the records, it's just Tyler and myself, but live it
was four piece, kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like you two, where we only know the name of
three of those people, but there's like nine people on stage.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Street walkers. We have talked about Lips Speak Louder, but
what I didn't say was that their brand new debut
album called Consolation Prize came out in April. How long
did it take you guys to put this album together?
And if you start with twenty twenty three September, I'm
gonna get mad.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well No, I mean, I don't know. I think the
first songs that appear on the record, I had kind
of demoed those out around July twenty twenty three. It
was kind of between July and February of twenty four.
At that point, I think we had all of them
that we were going to cut a record.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
For really two years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, it takes a long time to do the whole
like all the marketing in the process. We didn't want
to just like record it and put it out, you know,
like we've done like a really extensive I mean we've
been in like a six month singles campaign. So we
recorded the album in end of April beginning of May
twenty four at Sweetwater Studios in Indiana, which is a
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super awesome studio, and then the post production stuff went
through the summer of twenty twenty four, like the mixing, mastering,
all that, and then the first single came out August
twenty third, twenty twenty four, in this like a waterfall
singles release since then.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So yeah, are we in a singles world now?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I would say from a marketing standpoint, yes, But I
think albums still hold validity for listeners and people who
really enjoy music.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
In the world of like social media and very short
attention spans, singles are the way to go, right now.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What were we talking about exactly?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
But people want albums too, you know, and like when
I go see one of like some of my favorite bands,
I want to buy their music. I want to buy
their shirts and stuff. So, like, I think like full
albums still hold value because if they just put out
singles but I can't buy their music, you know, that's
kind of a bummer at least for like real fans.
So I think it still holds value for sure. In
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a streaming world.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Do you guys have tangible versions of your music? What
I mean is to your point, if I want to
buy an album or even a song, is there a
place I can go to to buy Let's just say
I don't want to stream one of your songs. What
if I just want to purchase one of your songs?
Is that a way? Is that a thing that can happen?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, you can purchase singles, I think on iTunes still
in like Amazon, you can purchase MP three's there of
the songs. But then like from our website lipspeaklouder dot com,
you can go to our shop and we have vinyl
MCDs that we're pre selling. Now well they're for sale
and we can ship them to you too.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Can I ask you a dumb question which I ask
every artist lately, Like for the last three years, I've
been asking every artist this, how come you don't have
MP three's available for sale on your website. Like, if
I buy a single of one of your songs from Apple,
it's going to cost me ninety nine cents. They're going
to keep sixty six of them. Why don't you have it?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, I guess we could. Nobody's ever asked me
that before, so I didn't really.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know, that's what everybody says when I ask them
that they got nobody's Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I mean, like, if there's a demand for it, I
would be happy to.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, you can do that on like band camp for sure.
Like bands that are like have their stuff on there,
but we just haven't. It's just yet another site to
keep track of and have stuff for sale on. So
it's just as more work to our plate.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
How about a click through? Do you have anything on
bend Camp?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No? Cool, it's all like in house on lipspeaklouder dot com.
But yeah, like I mean, Rachel is saying, like, we've
never been asked, Thatt, So it's not something that is
thought to have.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, Well, if only one person has asked, then it
doesn't seem. It doesn't seem What can we find on
lipspeaklouder dot com vinyls. What else we have?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Shirts? We've got we have stickers, yeah, a couple of
different shirts. We have hats, a limited run of hoodies.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does the hat look like?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's like a cool camo hat. Well, I think it's cool.
Hopefully other people there's cool. It's like a camo hat
and it says lipspeak louder and kind of a goldish
yellow fond across the front. So it's like a trucker hat.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Nice. How has the reception been? You guys have been
waterfalling singles for the last seven months. How is the reception?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean, it's way It's been bigger than I ever
thought it would have been for being a brand new band. Honestly,
you know, it's hard to know what you're going to
get when you're doing it yourself and we're not on
a label or anything like that. So we've just tried
to work really hard at doing our own promo. We've
had somebody helping us with some pr I mean, it's weird,
but with the whole kind of digital era that we're in,
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with like Spotify really being king of streams and social media,
you kind of have to learn to play their game,
which like maybe sounds like it sucks, but I don't know.
I just try to make it a game in my
head and try to like trigger their algorithms and stuff,
and if you do that, it will really help push
out your stuff. I think doing the waterfall thing does
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help with that because it shows them that you're putting
out content really regularly. Again, like it's not a super
sexy artistic answer, but we've tried to really lean into learning,
you know, just kind of what the music marketing landscape
looks like in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty four,
because it's I mean, it's way different than it was
even like five years ago. But I think it's made
(30:58):
a splash. We've got listeners from I mean all kinds
of different countries and had people do interviews like from Brazil,
really cool stuff. So it's getting out there very nice.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How are you in Italy? Rock music is huge in Italy?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I know we have some Italian listeners. I have
actual family there, and I have yet to reach out
to them to see if they would listen to our
stuff and like it. I think they would, because I
think everybody would like our stuff. But it's doing pretty well.
But like I don't know, like Japan and the UK
and Brazil, Germany. We've got a bunch of listeners in
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some other European countries too, But like we can also
advertise like our stuff in different countries. So like I've
tried to get on like Italian playlists and things like that. So,
like it's a work in progress for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And Razel, you were saying that, you know, you treated
like a game, you know, this new digital world we're in.
But I think that it's always been a game. It's
just now it's a different game totally. Yeah, this is
I think this is a little bit of a secret.
But back when Frank Sinatra was a youngster and he
was selling out, you know, there was four hundred ladies
waiting in line to see him. Well those those first
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few shows, those those people were paid to stay in line. Yeah,
So I mean it's always been a game. So I
think it's awesome that you're viewing it that way, because
what is life if not a game?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, well, and it's like you can either view it
like that or you can sit around and be pissed
off that like, oh you know, I got to make
these TikTok videos or these Instagram reels or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And wait, so I don't have to be angry and
just sitting around making these dumbass videos.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Oh no, you can still be like internally full of strife.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, there's a lot of people that feel like, you know, well,
I should just get to do my art because I
just want to be like a musician or whatever, and I,
you know, I shouldn't like marketing is icky or whatever,
and like I feel you, it's not the most fun part.
I would write rather just you know, write songs and
play guitar. But I think, you know, for better or worse,
a lot of what separates the bands you end up
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finding out about from the ones that you don't is
not necessarily because the ones that you find out about
are you know, just much better musically. It's a lot
of it is marketing and who manages to take whatever
they've made and get it out there the best, you know,
because you could make, you know, a masterpiece of an album,
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but if nobody ever hears it, but you know you
and your mom, I think it's it's not really going
to get out there. So, like you said, I think
it's always been a game. But we've tried to kind
of embrace that because we didn't want to go into
just feeling like, oh, we're just in the sludge of
you know, having to try to do this promo. You know,
we just try to see it as an opportunity and
I think it's paid off and we're still learning, you know.
(33:47):
It's it's a constant. It constantly changes. So just when
you think you're like figuring it out, you know, like
Instagram changes their algorithm or something, and suddenly you're like, cool,
why is the engagement terrible? Now?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Wait? Don't they change their algorithms? Is the worst? I'm
learning so much it's going to make me angry for later. Okay,
So the album came out in April twenty twenty five.
Do you have a favorite song on the album? Rachel?
You go first?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Oh that's tough.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Do you have to pick your favorite child? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Let me think no helping Angie.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
This is maybe a cheaty answer because I'm kind of
got to mention too. But the one that I think
means the most to me overall is probably dog Days
of Summer. But I really like the song Loser that's
on there too, and that one I think is maybe
I really have a good time playing that one live
because it's just really cathartic. So if I had to
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had to pick, I guess I would say dog Days
of Summer. But it's tough because I really want to
say Loser too, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's hard. I like different I like different things about
different different ones.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Angie, what you got so so I kind.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Of also have two answers. I would say the last
song on the album, Handle with Care, is probably my
favorite because it's something everyone can relate to and their
frustrations with dealing with other people. Plus, like the drum
parts are really fun in that I get to like
go off a little bit at the end of that song.
So that's a really fun one for me and relatable.
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But I think my most favorite one to see the
crowd reaction of when we play it is dog Days
this Summer because it's sort of like Rachel's Celine Dion
moment and it's fun to just sit back and like
be holding it down in the back and just watch
or like kill it on the solo, kill it on
the vocal part. It's an important song for her too,
but like it's also just like as a fan, it's
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fun to watch people's reaction to that one. So those
two songs are probably my favorite.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It starts kind of softer, and so it's kind of
a It's fun because I think people from how it starts,
people don't expect it to end up where it ends up,
and so it kind of starts mellow and then it
gets pretty in your face by the end.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Sort of like when people see the stage and they
see guitar amp, drums and a bass amp. They don't
expect that there's only going to be two people walking
up on stage. Kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That is exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
What's the name of the last song on the album? Again?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's called Handle with Care?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Okay. And the reason I ask is because when I
listened to this album multiple times over the last couple
of weeks, I'm just listening to it, so I'm not
staring at it. I don't know what the names of
anything is anymore.
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Speaker 4 (37:11):
Let's get back into it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So Handle with Care is actually my favorite song on
the album Oh Fun, because, like you said, it's pretty relatable.
You know, we've all been in some of these situations
that maybe we wish we weren't or wish we would
have handled differently or whatever. This is a question, it's
a huge ask, but I have you both here, I'm
holding you hostage, so I'm going to ask you now,
(37:37):
can I play Handle with Care on this episode?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Please for it?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Nice? Would you like to introduce it like your radio DJ?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh my goodness. Okay, Hey, this is Rachel.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And this is Angie from lips speak louder.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
And you're about to listen to our brand new song
Handle with Care from our new album Consolation Prize Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Are you not because I kept you with him in
my spiritual heart?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
To be in your shoes laying.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
God on your knees? Please tell me again? Also mean.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
There's a batories and that feeling rolling.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's the same shirt, all the differences. If you ever change,
I surprise made him.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'm not gonna lay him. As around comes around, I'm
not the.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
One shut your damn.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Then just stop blave on a bullshit baby.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Goes around? Comes around?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well did you bathing? Now? Do you think you couldnover?
(39:38):
Forget me?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Bad? Not to do? Tapplet burn on your teeth? Baye,
tell me how told you? Feeling? I'll be shot at them?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Make you out to try? O think maybe you should
get your fat under fool? Still ever changed?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I still fast? Bay there?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I'm not fair?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Goes on outcomes around.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm not the one shot your damn?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Did stop blay? Are your bullsh fay?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
There goes around? Comes around?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well do you believe in?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Don't believe?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Are not?
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Because I can't you waiting.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
In most bits of how to ban your shoes light.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Fantastic. I love doing that. It's one of my favorite things.
So on your website, I'm looking at some of the
things that you guys have on your website and I'm
very curious, is this a wristband?
Speaker 6 (41:57):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
So we have, like we have merch packages. One of
the Yeah, one of the merch packages we thought would
be fun is to throw in the Risks band from
the Loser video. Like we don't have the official video yet,
but like of the reels that we've been sharing, we
wore those in the video and thought that and the
little trophy that we share and it would be you know,
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fun little memorabilia for a fan.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, I think that video potentially, depending on when this airs,
it may be out, because I think it'll probably come
out maybe end of May. But yeah, the Loser video,
the concept sort of visually was the feeling of like being,
you know, the kid who gets picked last it for pe,
for dodgeball or whatever it is, and so we kind
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of leaned into that. So we got like the matching
crew socks and the sweatbands in the headbands. So yeah,
for those couple of kind of super fan packages. With
the album, which I think are sold out now, but
you could get a little pieces of the props, So
that's where those come from.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Now you said which you think are sold out? Now
you mean the packages like the superfan packages or the
vinyl vinyl's not sold out?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Right? No? Not the vine just those there was because
we only had a limited a number of like those. Sure,
both props from the from the videos. So the packages
with the sweatbands, those are sold out, I believe, But no,
we still have vinyl, and we have a couple of
other vinyl packages that include like signed photo and stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think we still have some of those, so signed
drumhead or something.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, a couple of different options, right.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Do I understand this correctly? Is it a pink vinyl?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's gentile.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Okay, how come you went with that color? I know
that like like maybe last year or the year before.
It's so weird. There was a shortage of black vinyl,
like in the vinyl making industry, and so everybody was
having to pick all these crazy ass colors. Did y'all
pick this color on purpose or was there a black shortage?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah? I was on purpose? And that like we got
a press that United rac Pressing and they have tons
of fun combinations. You can pick and tons of different colors.
So we had passed it around the magenta and then like,
I think a teal green something like that, like some
sort of green color too, But we just were super
drawn to the pinkish magenta.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It really pops.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, we wanted it to be fun. Yeah, it's fun
to have a colored vinyl.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So it looks great. I love it a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Here is something that we didn't talk about, and I
want to be probably the last person to congratulate the
two of you. Where on the street is that y'all
recently became engaged.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Who asked who?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I asked Rach What did she say? She said, well,
of course, I will to quote her exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
She didn't get confused, like when you asked her to
be in a band. She was like, well, I mean
I don't know. I mean i'd be into that if you're.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's actually right. Yeah, I didn't like being around the bush.
I was like, well, you know, someday it'd be nice
to be married, you know, to like a girl who
happens to be like I don't know a band partner too.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I'd be like, how oddly specific.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Do you think that?
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, we know if you know anybody?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, let me know.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It was pretty direct, and you know, we got engaged
in Joshua Tree last month, so it's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, congratulations, are best wishes or whatever the kids are
saying these days, Thank you, Thanks, you are welcome. Is
there a plan for a wedding? Do you guys know
when it's going to be yet? It's going to be
in Austin and you're not going to invite me to
that either. I got to check my email.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh my gosh, oh yeah, you got an email.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
We had a couple ideas, but we're still we're still finalizing,
so I don't know, but it'll be probably somewhere fun.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I think, well, if you're together, it's going to be
fun no matter where it is.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Right, This is true. We are very fun people.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Are there any plans to tour this album?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Definitely planned. You know, we're kind of in the midst
of playing several regional shows and a couple like big
shows and festivals this spring and summer, but we are
trying to work on nailing down some bigger tours for
this album, like that's the goal, and we have some
irons in the fire and trying to work on that.
But nothing to announce just yet other than like the
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shows that are announced already.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, but pretty consistent weekend regional stuff. So if you're
kind of anywhere nearish to the south Midwest and a
little bit on the East Coast, take a peek at
our website if you're looking to find a show, because
we do have quite a few weekend kind of little
short runs.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So you're saying that there is a tour button on
the website, there is, Yes, lipsspeak louder dot com is
where you're going to go for all of your consolation prizes.
I get it. So let's speak loud at dot comments
where you're going to go for tour dates, for magenta vinyls,
(47:05):
for hoodies and hats and all the crazy stuff. Do
you think that you guys are going to venture all
the way to cause, I mean, you guys were in
Joshua Tree, right, that's in California, So you're all going
to go play in California. I know you're talking all
this regional East Coast nonsense, but.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I'm sure eventually I mean, we're playing in Denver in June,
so that's half the way there, at least on the way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, our goal is to play like the West Coast
and stuff, but since it's so far, it is easier
to work that into maybe a tour that's already routed
and try and get on like an opening slot for that.
So like that would be one way to make that happen.
But yeah, we'll definitely be doing that at some point.
It's just we're still working on exacting the dates right now.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Tell me about the Denver show That is at.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Levett Pavilion in Denver, and it's June fourteenth. It's their
Pride night all so, and it's pretty cool because Rach
and I are opening the show, so let's speak. Louder
is doing a set, and then we are also playing
with Emily Wolf if she's the headliner, so we're backing her,
so we get to play our stuff and then like
go backstage, do a costume change, and then like come
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back out and play her stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
So it's is it just the two bands, there's just
a festival just the two bands. Y'all are going to
be tired, dude, we're young we're good, we're young, we're good. Fantastic, Angela.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Do you still tell the weather only to friends that
are scared when they're severe weather coming through town? So
just on an unprofessional like private basis, yes, just.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
On the down low, you tell everybody it's just calm down,
don't panic.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Just yet, don't panic. Yeah, just for fun.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Is there like a whole text chain group thing where
like a group chat on your phone where you just say, hey, look,
I'll tell you when to freak out.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Okay, No, but that's a great idea, because I think
I need to start charging money, like do a Patreon account,
like if you want a personalized forecast, and like some
calming techniques when there's a tornado warning or something like,
I should like start a group thread, take five bucks
a text from everyone, and just start like helping them
through this. But yeah, well it's a good idea, but
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I'm not so not so much right now.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
A friend of mine, he's a popular YouTube guy, and
he said on his he said, on his show or
on his website or whatever, his instagram because he's from
the South, and so he said, hey, yeah, whenever we
get a tornado warning, we all just run to the
window to see what's happening, and he got a message
from the National Weather Service to please stop saying that
(49:43):
I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's such a stupid thing to say, but I don't
recommend it. But I also know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You know exactly? There you go, Okay, lip Speak Louder, Angela, Lucy,
Racial Brandsness, lipspeaklouder dot Com their new album, Consolation Prize.
It has all the cool things you got to hear
Handle with Care earlier, and you get to hear the
rest of the stuff when you buy their shits or
I guess you could stream it, but just go give
(50:13):
them money. Everybody needs money. Spotify does not need your money.
Go give these kids money, and again check their website
atspeaklouder dot com for tour dates and regional shows and
maybe they're going to go out west and make sure
if you're in the Denver area, you can check out
loop Speak Louder and Emily Wolf and just watch these
two ladies sweat their butts off twice Angela Rachel Before that,
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you go, is there anything we didn't talk about specifically
that you wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I think maybe just a shout out to like Sweetwater
Studios for helping us create this album that we're super
proud of and Emily producing it. You know, she was
really great at like making sure that the songs were
protected still and she just brought out the best in
all of it. So, you know, just to give a
quick shout out to the too in particular to just
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make an album that we're most proud of. Like, I've
never been part of a better sounding album. I think
all the songs are fantastic, So like, like I'm just
like extremely proud of that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Who did you say produced it?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Emily?
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Emily Emily Wolf. Oh so she knows you're cheating on
her and she's school with it. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
He knew us first from that and then after she
came in and we asked her to produce the record.
After we were in the studio, she ended up needing
needing people to back her on some shows and she
called us after that. So worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Well. Check you's the ladies out all right? Great again? Everybody?
Angela Lissy Rachel brand'sness. Angela Lissy is Tama Chick t
A M A C h I C K on Instagram
Rachel What are you on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Rachel BRAND'SNSS.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I know it's not no, it's cool, direct and to
the point.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
But you know, like nobody else, like very few people
have that last name. So it makes it a lot easier.
You don't have to be like, wait, which Rachel Brandson
is because there is only one.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, you just have to be able to spell it.
You just have to throw an S in there and
then you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, one and again at Lips Speak Louder on Instagram
as well. Are you guys on any other platforms besides
the Instagram's Are you making dumb TikTok videos?
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, we're on TikTok and YouTube and threads and you know,
reluctantly on Facebook that's kind of a dying social media
platform probably, but we're on there as well.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
All right, cool, everybody go find Lips Speak Louder and
then tell them that your favorite song is Handle with
Care because you heard it here. I'm fascinating street ladies. Again,
Congratulations or best wishes or whatever we're supposed to say
on your pending nuptials. Thanks man, Thank you so much
(52:55):
for taking the time out of your busy day and
your hectic lips speaking louder schedule to hang out and
list get to know you guys a little bit better
on Fascination Street. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Thanks for thank you so yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Thanks guys, see bye, have fun bye. Opening music is
the song FSP theme, written, performed and provided by Ambush Vin.
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Closing music is from the song say My Name off
the twenty twenty one album Underdog Anthems, used with permission
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Hey, street Walker's guess what I did a thing many
of you remember roughly a year ago. In May of
twenty twenty four, I put out an episode with special
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Since then, Landon has caught fire even more. Landon is
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
This is Jeremy pop Off from the band Lit.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're listening to Fascination Street.
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Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let's get it when you wait for the fastest street
with Welcome back Street Walkers. This episode is with the
band Lips Speak Louder. Lips Speak Louder is comprised of
Angela Lissi and Rachel Brandsness. Both are previous guests, but
not together. Angela has been on with another band or two,
(02:19):
and so has Rachel with a previous band. But this
episode they're together, so we don't do the get to
know them as they're coming up thing. You can check
out their individual episodes for that. But what we do
talk about is why they decided to start this band
and why they decided to keep it simple and make
it a duo. Rachel does explain some of the pitfalls
(02:40):
and the technical skills that she had to learn in
order to make this two piece band sound loud and full.
And then we talk about their debut album. It came
out last month in April. It is called Consolation Prize.
We talk about the slow waterfall release of the singles
culminating in the album release last month. We also talk
(03:01):
about some of the things that you can get on
their website. You can actually buy the album on vinyl
and get this. It's magenta. I think it's a pink vinyl,
but Angela said it's Magento, so we'll go with her.
They got the hats, they got the hoodies, they got
the magenta vinyls. They have all the things. Their music
is dope as hell. You're gonna love it. In some ways,
(03:21):
it's a throwback to the nineties and in other ways
it's not. Whatever their inspirations and whatever your musical tastes are,
this is a unique album. Lips Speak Louder has their
own sound, and I think they're starting a new genre.
You do get to hear my favorite song off the
album in this episode, and I hope you take it.
Check out lipsspeaklouder dot com for tour dates, news on
(03:46):
new videos, and they've already started writing their second album,
so stay tuned. Lips Speak Louder is going to blow up.
They're everywhere. They're currently in Nashville, but they're branching out
and touring regionally and doing some shows around the country.
And this is my conversation with Angela Lissi and Rachel
(04:07):
Brand's ness of Lips Speak Louder. For Beret to be fascinating,
Forgred to be fascinating, for Beretta to be fascinating. Welcome
back to Fascination Street Podcasts. Angela Lssi and Rachel Brand'sness.
(04:28):
How are you ladies.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Doing doing good?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hi, we're great.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Thanks for having us one hundred percent of my pleasure.
Ladies and gentlemen street walkers, if you will. These names
may sound familiar because they have both been on here before,
but separately. Rachel was on with her band Flarelight, probably
about a year and a half ago or something like that. Angela,
Oh my goodness, Angela has probably been on this podcast
(04:53):
more than anybody else. And here's why. So I interviewed
her a long time ago. She was so cool. And
then because I have a habit of playing music from
bands that I interview on the show, Angela has also
been on these episodes. She was on an episode where
we talked about Taco Mouth, the Dead Dads, and the
(05:14):
Raylen Nilson band. Am I leaving anything out?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't know if you interviewed Jax Hollow maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh yeah, and Jack's Hollow the outthro theme for my podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, welcome back these ladies, Rachel and Angela. They have
a new band. It is called Lips Speak Louder, and
we're going to talk all about that. But first we're
not going to do the how did you get from
where you were to where you are think, because we
did that in each of their solo episodes. But we
are going to do is talk about how they met.
(05:46):
How did you guys meet?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, it was kind of one of those weird situations
where we've known the same group of people for probably
a decade, but just somehow had never crossed paths, even
though the national music scene really isn't that. But then
in twenty twenty one, my band Flarelight was playing a
show on the same bill as Jack's Hollow and Angie
(06:08):
was drumming for Jax that night, and Angie kind of
organized that show as well, so we met that night.
It was kind of a really busy night, so we
really only talked for I mean a couple minutes maybe,
but that was enough to be the introduction. And then
when I was doing this album release stuff with Flarelight,
(06:28):
we knew that Angie helped bands do some kind of
promo and management and helped with their album releases, and
we didn't really know what we were doing, so I
hit her up just for some advice, and so we
met up to kind of make a plan for some
of that, and everything just kind of piggyback because then
from there, Angie was putting on or putting together like
(06:49):
a fem Foo Fighters tribute band for a show, a
couple of shows that she had, and she asked me
to play guitar and that, and that's when we started
playing together and we just had such a good time
doing it. We kind of thought, how can we make
sure that we get to play together all the time,
And that's kind of where the duo was birthed.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Angie, do you agree with everything? She said?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I do?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Do you have any notes?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No notes? We basically met through mutual friends, mutual bands,
and then like yeah, it was the fingernails at a
pretty band where we actually got to like play together
for the first time and realized, wow, we really jive
well on stage. We just play really well together, and
like obviously our personalities fit really well too, so we
like just hit it off from the very beginning. That's
(07:34):
how we met.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Love it. Who else is in lips speak louder?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You're looking at it nice?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yes, it is just the two utes. Okay, who does what?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and
assume that Angie's good to take care of the drums
in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I handle the drums, duh. And I do some background
vocal stuff too.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh read, well, I guess Rachel, you do everything else.
Who's writing these?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We write them together. I'll usually kind of create the
core concept for them and kind of sketch them out,
like with guitar and vocal, and then I'll handle like
a rough demo off to Angie and she'll go through
it and kind of create the drums and sends me
notes back on if something's not going to work or whatever,
and then we kind of revise from there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
She's being quite modest too, because basically I would say
Rach writes most everything and then like even sometimes like
she'll tell me, like what drums she thinks something should have,
and then I just ask her for the track she
created without the drums, so I can put down what
I would think would work, and then we work through
the songs together after that. But she does a lot
(08:41):
of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I would say, that's funny. I was going to ask
Rachel if you ever tell her how to drum, but
apparently you do something awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Sometimes when I'm writing the section, like there'll be a
section where I'm like, Okay, I know I kind of
want to broken down like halftime feel here or something
like that. And instead of just giving her a track
without drums and going all right, just read my mind
and guess what I was thinking, like, I'll send her,
you know, yeah, I'll give her a couple of notes sometimes,
but we like to see what each other like. I mean,
(09:10):
Angie writes really good parts, and there's times where she
had an idea that was different from what I kind
of at first was thinking that ended up being way better.
So like I never try to just tell her like, okay,
play exactly this and don't deviate, you know. Yeah, But
sometimes I have a cliff notes kind of ideas of
what I was thinking would fit.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You should try that one time just to see how
it goes. Say no, look, you played exactly like this. Yeah,
because I said so, Because I said so a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So yeah, it's really productive communication technique.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Are y'all in any other bands right now? Or is
this your sole project?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Are is Flare Light still a thing?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
It is? Where haven't been playing much recently. The main
other artists that we're playing for right now is Emily Wolf,
who's a really badass guitarist out of Austin, Texas. I
played bass for her at Angie Drums. We've been her
back being band on most of her dates over the
last yearish.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now you say from Austin. Is she currently in Nashville
and she's just from Austin? Or is she in Austin?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She's in Austin.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So when y'all play with Emily Wolf, do y'all go
to Austin?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We just zoom you know, like they put up the
big screens behind the stage and then we zoom in
and play. You know, Yeah, No, we go like or
she'll either come scoop us up if she's driving through
town on the way, or if it's down there, we'll
head down there, you know, so we just link up.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you had to guess, Rachel, how many times would
you say that you guys have come to Austin and
played with Emily Wolf.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
We've been to Austin a handful of times. I think
we've been and played in Austin yet twice? Does that
sound right, Angie?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah? Twice. We played a Last Fall with her at
the far Out Lounge, and then we just played south
By with her too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, so Angie, this is where you get into a
lot of trouble because you know, I'm only an hour
away from Austin and this is the first I'm hearing
of this. How Darry, I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Think you should check your email because I did tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I apologize. That's on me, guys.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's all good shit.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, Well, let's just do it all over. I'll call
up south By and see if they can just do
it over, and we'll call the Far Out and see
we can just do all that over.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do it over.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I've only gotten to see Angela play once live, and
that was a really, really long time ago. I even
took my kid ages. Yeah, ages, indeed, So why did
you guys decide to start lips speak louder. I know
that you said y'all work well together, but why do
your own thing? Why not just keep doing you know
(11:49):
the other things that y'all do together.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, it's more fun to play your own music, for sure.
Like it's fun to do tribute stuff once in a while,
but that can get old fast. And I have I'd
always wanted to, like be in a rock duo, and
I always wanted like a badass female to front it too.
And you know, no offense, but women tend to work harder,
(12:11):
communicate better, They're easier to work with, they're more patient.
Who for me, it's yeah, like I don't want you
to offend or I'm not trying to offend you personally,
but from my experience, like, I just thought that that
would be so cool, And I like, I love female singers.
Most of the bands I am obsessed with have female
(12:33):
front they're female fronted bands. So I've always wanted to
do that. And Rachl and I were on the way
or she was on the way to a radio interview,
and I was just like, man, would you be interested
in something like that? This is what this was after
we already played together in the Foo Fighters Stout Beet band,
and like, after playing with her, I'm like, man, she
would like she would be great. She's fantastic, she works hard,
(12:56):
she's really smart, super talent.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And she's great. Yeah she's great at what she does. Yeah,
for sure, great what she does.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So I was like, here's a candidate. You know, this
would be fantastic and yeah, I just brought it up
sort of just like not flat out asking her, just
being like, you know, I've always wanted to do this,
and we're just sitting in the car driving to the destination,
and I was like, it could be like, you know,
be cool, like I've always wanted to do this, and
like I never flat out ass and I think Rach
(13:26):
responded with if you're asking, I would be interested.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, because she was kind of saying it in like
a sort of a vague way. So I was like, oh, well, yeah,
I mean if you needed somebody, I would definitely be
interested in that, and she was like, well, duh, Like
that's I was like, oh okay, but I didn't want
to assume and then have you be like oh girl, no,
not what I meant.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, not you or someone else. I was trying to
not assume that she was free to do that, you know,
because she was in another like she was in Flarelight,
and I don't want to like, you know, bogger now
with so much to do, but like I had crossed
my mind, had been on my mind. So like that
was when we first talked about it, which was like
the fall of twenty twenty two, and then maybe a
(14:08):
year later we started really investing in and starting that band.
So like probably the summer of twenty twenty three, I
think Rach started tossing around some like musical ideas for
the band, and then like we started like Lipspeak Louder
officially in like September, I think of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Got you Rachel to tag onto her. I didn't know
if she was just like somebody like you or like me,
or you know, she didn't want to be like, oh no, no,
not you. I just met you know, in general. So
my mom introduced me to this woman like a while back,
and she said, you need to date somebody like this woman.
And then I said, okay, I'll date that woman. And
then my mom goes, no, not her, somebody like her,
(14:48):
and so confusion ensued around me and that lady married
for over.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Twenty years, so safe assumptions then.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, so accidents work out great, sort of lips speak louder.
Where's that name come from?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a lyric from a y the Yeah Yeah Yeah
song Soft Shock. We've really liked them, and they're technically
a three piece, but their old stuff could have been
two piece because of the three you know, they've got
drums and then Nick on guitar and Karen O singing,
So if you put the guitar and the singing together,
(15:23):
you would have kind of had a two piece setup,
and so we use them for a lot of inspiration
early on. We always joke that the hardest part of
having a band is figuring out what to name it,
because either the name you think of is super stupid,
or you think of something that is like halfway cool,
but then you go on Spotify or you Google it
and there's already a band that has that name. So
(15:44):
it's with the internet now and anybody able to release music,
which which is great, but it is increasingly difficult to
come up with a name that someone isn't already using.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, you're preaching to the choir Fascination Street podcast named
after a song Jesus. Right, So you guys decided to
put this band together, and then how long before you
started writing your own songs or did you guys already
have stuff to bring to the table for this project.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, it was a birth from the beginning. So we
didn't really bring ideas to the table other than like
we wanted to be a rock duo, you know, And
once like we started talking about the idea of the band,
Rach started doing homework on well, how do I make
this two piece sound big? So she really went hard
into thinking about how to Like it's a totally different
(16:35):
mindset how to write songs too. You know, how much
do you want it to Do you want it to
just sound like drums and guitar or do you want
some bass undertones on it? Do you want like layers
of stuff? So it's a whole new mindset of writing
for that. So we didn't really bring anything to the table.
Everything was from scratch and I think like twenty twenty
three so like and I'll let like Rache elaborate more
(16:57):
like I brought zero to the table. Like nothing like
most drummers, I'm just here to do my part, and
I have to wait for the inspiration. So once she
started writing stuff and sending me different clips than I
was starting to get my mind going like wrapping around
that because I want it to sound bigger than like,
(17:19):
you know, obviously the White Stripes are a duo, but
I wanted, you know, I want my drums to sound
bigger and fuller, like no disrespect to Meg White, She's
actually a badass and that was great for that music,
but we wanted it to sound bigger and thicker basically.
So yeah, didn't come to the table with anything, just
kind of started everything from scratch. But I really piggyback
(17:41):
off of rage and kind of let her take the
reins on not let her take the reins like she
took the rains to write the stuff and really do
some homework on how to craft songs for just you know,
for a two piece, and I barely did anything. She's
the mastermind behind it all.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I don't know about that. We knew we wanted to
do it with just the two of us. But for me,
if I ever go out and like see a show
and there's no bass, it bums me out because that
super fat low end is like really especially live, you know,
like that's the kind of part that like rumbles your
butt cheeks when you're standing there watching that, and like
the kick drum, and so I just was kind of
(18:20):
trying to figure out, like, man, I'm not going to
like it if it doesn't have low end in it somehow.
So I was trying to figure out how to do that,
which sent me down like a very fun but expensive
gear rabbit hole of you know, messing around with pedals
and things. And so I kind of I took a
(18:40):
page out of kind of the local age if you
know them, kind of out of their book, but not
quite so, Like he does the same thing where he's
basically playing guitar and bass at the same time, and
the way he did it was he's got an extra
pickup that he put in his guitar. I think it's
like a p bass pickup under just the e and
the A string the bottom two strings, and when he
(19:01):
plays that is getting split out into bass amps and
pitched down and all that. So I kind of did
a similar thing, but I did not cut up my guitar.
I send my guitar signal through a splitter in the
pedal board and then half of the signal goes through
the guitar effects through my guitar amp. The other half
gets pitched down to varying degrees depending on what I'm doing,
(19:22):
and then gets sent into a bass amp. And so
that way I was able to like keep the root
under my chords in a bass frequency. So when I
kind of started to figure out that, that helped give
me context for how to write, because then it was
kind of, okay, how can I write the best songs
that I can write, but where they're kind of existing
(19:42):
a little bit within those rules. So the you know,
because if I write like a song that's got kind
of just a steady strumming guitar part, but the bass
is doing some kind of funk line, like, I'm not
going to be able to play both of those things
at the same time. That kind of helped inform the writing. Yeah,
and we just kind of drew off of like nineties
stuff and two thousand stuff and kind of pooled our
(20:03):
interests with what we liked. But from when I really
started getting serious trying to come up with the songs,
it took several months of kind of just trial and error,
just trying to figure out what the sound was going
to be and how we were going to recreate it live,
you know, successfully, because that was my deal is. I
didn't want to write songs that we really liked, but
then we go to figure out how to play them live,
(20:23):
and just think, man, there's no way we're going to
be able to pull this off without you know, two
or three other people.
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That sounds complicated and frustrating.
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Speaker 4 (22:41):
Let's get back into it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Why the stickler about it only being a duo? How
come you guys didn't just go you know what? This
is hard? How about we just go get a bass player.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know what's hard is multiple people in a band.
It's hard to schedule things, it's hard to make sure
everyone's doing their part. I think rach is a fantastic songwriter. Sometimes,
you know, more minds can like add to your songwriting
and develop stuff. But sometimes it can make people butt heads.
There's so many reasons to whittle it down, Like if
(23:17):
we want to play live anywhere, we don't need multiple vehicles,
or we don't need to rent a gigantic passenger band,
we don't need multiple hotel rooms. It's pretty cost effective
for just a duo. And in this day and age
when touring is almost financially impossible for most fans, it's
smart financially if we want our band to be a
successful business, keeping it a duo really does help, like
(23:38):
in the financial sense, but also like we just get
along so well, and if we add someone else in
just to play bass, like the dynamic is going to change,
not necessarily for the better. It could, but there's many
factors and why like the duo it just seems like
the sweetened spot for us anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, and it's kind of been a fun thing that
has helped us stand out to you know, just because
people don't expect a duo period because they're just not
as common. And then when we go play, people definitely
don't expect us to have the bigger, fatter sound, and
so then when we do, it's kind of been a
cool way, like almost like an icebreaker. You know, it's
a lot of times like after the show, people are like,
(24:16):
how are you doing that? You know, like with sound
coming out of that bassam too, and like it's kind
of cool. It just kind of seems to get people's
attention and it was a fun creative challenge. But to
Angie's point, the un sexy answer is, I think like
people who don't tour have no idea like how difficult
it is to end a tour and not have lost money.
(24:38):
Like it maybe if you're if you're on the super
upper levels, like the Taylor Swift levels. You know, some
of those tours make a lot of money, but the
kind of indie touring is tough out there. You know,
a lot of shows really don't pay a lot, and
if you're trying to pay a four or five percent
band even three, but just the more people you have,
the tougher it is going to be to make sure
that everybody gets paid enough to make it worth their
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while and where they can pay their bills. So that
was part of our motivation too.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Rachel was flair Light a duo.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Creatively, yes, like it was just Tyler and myself who
wrote the songs, but when we would play live, we
had a drummer and a bassist with us. So on
the records, it's just Tyler and myself, but live it
was four piece, kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like you two, where we only know the name of
three of those people, but there's like nine people on stage.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Street walkers. We have talked about Lips Speak Louder, but
what I didn't say was that their brand new debut
album called Consolation Prize came out in April. How long
did it take you guys to put this album together?
And if you start with twenty twenty three September, I'm
gonna get mad.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well No, I mean, I don't know. I think the
first songs that appear on the record, I had kind
of demoed those out around July twenty twenty three. It
was kind of between July and February of twenty four.
At that point, I think we had all of them
that we were going to cut a record.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
For really two years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, it takes a long time to do the whole
like all the marketing in the process. We didn't want
to just like record it and put it out, you know,
like we've done like a really extensive I mean we've
been in like a six month singles campaign. So we
recorded the album in end of April beginning of May
twenty four at Sweetwater Studios in Indiana, which is a
(26:36):
super awesome studio, and then the post production stuff went
through the summer of twenty twenty four, like the mixing, mastering,
all that, and then the first single came out August
twenty third, twenty twenty four, in this like a waterfall
singles release since then.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So yeah, are we in a singles world now?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I would say from a marketing standpoint, yes, But I
think albums still hold validity for listeners and people who
really enjoy music.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
In the world of like social media and very short
attention spans, singles are the way to go, right now.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What were we talking about exactly?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
But people want albums too, you know, and like when
I go see one of like some of my favorite bands,
I want to buy their music. I want to buy
their shirts and stuff. So, like, I think like full
albums still hold value because if they just put out
singles but I can't buy their music, you know, that's
kind of a bummer at least for like real fans.
So I think it still holds value for sure. In
(27:37):
a streaming world.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Do you guys have tangible versions of your music? What
I mean is to your point, if I want to
buy an album or even a song, is there a
place I can go to to buy Let's just say
I don't want to stream one of your songs. What
if I just want to purchase one of your songs?
Is that a way? Is that a thing that can happen?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, you can purchase singles, I think on iTunes still
in like Amazon, you can purchase MP three's there of
the songs. But then like from our website lipspeaklouder dot com,
you can go to our shop and we have vinyl
MCDs that we're pre selling. Now well they're for sale
and we can ship them to you too.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Can I ask you a dumb question which I ask
every artist lately, Like for the last three years, I've
been asking every artist this, how come you don't have
MP three's available for sale on your website. Like, if
I buy a single of one of your songs from Apple,
it's going to cost me ninety nine cents. They're going
to keep sixty six of them. Why don't you have it?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, I guess we could. Nobody's ever asked me
that before, so I didn't really.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know, that's what everybody says when I ask them
that they got nobody's Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I mean, like, if there's a demand for it, I
would be happy to.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, you can do that on like band camp for sure.
Like bands that are like have their stuff on there,
but we just haven't. It's just yet another site to
keep track of and have stuff for sale on. So
it's just as more work to our plate.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
How about a click through? Do you have anything on
bend Camp?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No? Cool, it's all like in house on lipspeaklouder dot com.
But yeah, like I mean, Rachel is saying, like, we've
never been asked, Thatt, So it's not something that is
thought to have.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, Well, if only one person has asked, then it
doesn't seem. It doesn't seem What can we find on
lipspeaklouder dot com vinyls. What else we have?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Shirts? We've got we have stickers, yeah, a couple of
different shirts. We have hats, a limited run of hoodies.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does the hat look like?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's like a cool camo hat. Well, I think it's cool.
Hopefully other people there's cool. It's like a camo hat
and it says lipspeak louder and kind of a goldish
yellow fond across the front. So it's like a trucker hat.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Nice. How has the reception been? You guys have been
waterfalling singles for the last seven months. How is the reception?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean, it's way It's been bigger than I ever
thought it would have been for being a brand new band. Honestly,
you know, it's hard to know what you're going to
get when you're doing it yourself and we're not on
a label or anything like that. So we've just tried
to work really hard at doing our own promo. We've
had somebody helping us with some pr I mean, it's weird,
but with the whole kind of digital era that we're in,
(30:16):
with like Spotify really being king of streams and social media,
you kind of have to learn to play their game,
which like maybe sounds like it sucks, but I don't know.
I just try to make it a game in my
head and try to like trigger their algorithms and stuff,
and if you do that, it will really help push
out your stuff. I think doing the waterfall thing does
(30:38):
help with that because it shows them that you're putting
out content really regularly. Again, like it's not a super
sexy artistic answer, but we've tried to really lean into learning,
you know, just kind of what the music marketing landscape
looks like in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty four,
because it's I mean, it's way different than it was
even like five years ago. But I think it's made
(30:58):
a splash. We've got listeners from I mean all kinds
of different countries and had people do interviews like from Brazil,
really cool stuff. So it's getting out there very nice.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How are you in Italy? Rock music is huge in Italy?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I know we have some Italian listeners. I have
actual family there, and I have yet to reach out
to them to see if they would listen to our
stuff and like it. I think they would, because I
think everybody would like our stuff. But it's doing pretty well.
But like I don't know, like Japan and the UK
and Brazil, Germany. We've got a bunch of listeners in
(31:36):
some other European countries too, But like we can also
advertise like our stuff in different countries. So like I've
tried to get on like Italian playlists and things like that. So,
like it's a work in progress for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And Razel, you were saying that, you know, you treated
like a game, you know, this new digital world we're in.
But I think that it's always been a game. It's
just now it's a different game totally. Yeah, this is
I think this is a little bit of a secret.
But back when Frank Sinatra was a youngster and he
was selling out, you know, there was four hundred ladies
waiting in line to see him. Well those those first
(32:10):
few shows, those those people were paid to stay in line. Yeah,
So I mean it's always been a game. So I
think it's awesome that you're viewing it that way, because
what is life if not a game?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, well, and it's like you can either view it
like that or you can sit around and be pissed
off that like, oh you know, I got to make
these TikTok videos or these Instagram reels or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And wait, so I don't have to be angry and
just sitting around making these dumbass videos.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Oh no, you can still be like internally full of strife.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, there's a lot of people that feel like, you know, well,
I should just get to do my art because I
just want to be like a musician or whatever, and I,
you know, I shouldn't like marketing is icky or whatever,
and like I feel you, it's not the most fun part.
I would write rather just you know, write songs and
play guitar. But I think, you know, for better or worse,
a lot of what separates the bands you end up
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finding out about from the ones that you don't is
not necessarily because the ones that you find out about
are you know, just much better musically. It's a lot
of it is marketing and who manages to take whatever
they've made and get it out there the best, you know,
because you could make, you know, a masterpiece of an album,
(33:25):
but if nobody ever hears it, but you know you
and your mom, I think it's it's not really going
to get out there. So, like you said, I think
it's always been a game. But we've tried to kind
of embrace that because we didn't want to go into
just feeling like, oh, we're just in the sludge of
you know, having to try to do this promo. You know,
we just try to see it as an opportunity and
I think it's paid off and we're still learning, you know.
(33:47):
It's it's a constant. It constantly changes. So just when
you think you're like figuring it out, you know, like
Instagram changes their algorithm or something, and suddenly you're like, cool,
why is the engagement terrible? Now?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Wait? Don't they change their algorithms? Is the worst? I'm
learning so much it's going to make me angry for later. Okay,
So the album came out in April twenty twenty five.
Do you have a favorite song on the album? Rachel?
You go first?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Oh that's tough.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Do you have to pick your favorite child? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Let me think no helping Angie.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
This is maybe a cheaty answer because I'm kind of
got to mention too. But the one that I think
means the most to me overall is probably dog Days
of Summer. But I really like the song Loser that's
on there too, and that one I think is maybe
I really have a good time playing that one live
because it's just really cathartic. So if I had to
(34:48):
had to pick, I guess I would say dog Days
of Summer. But it's tough because I really want to
say Loser too, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's hard. I like different I like different things about
different different ones.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Angie, what you got so so I kind.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Of also have two answers. I would say the last
song on the album, Handle with Care, is probably my
favorite because it's something everyone can relate to and their
frustrations with dealing with other people. Plus, like the drum
parts are really fun in that I get to like
go off a little bit at the end of that song.
So that's a really fun one for me and relatable.
(35:22):
But I think my most favorite one to see the
crowd reaction of when we play it is dog Days
this Summer because it's sort of like Rachel's Celine Dion
moment and it's fun to just sit back and like
be holding it down in the back and just watch
or like kill it on the solo, kill it on
the vocal part. It's an important song for her too,
but like it's also just like as a fan, it's
(35:42):
fun to watch people's reaction to that one. So those
two songs are probably my favorite.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It starts kind of softer, and so it's kind of
a It's fun because I think people from how it starts,
people don't expect it to end up where it ends up,
and so it kind of starts mellow and then it
gets pretty in your face by the end.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Sort of like when people see the stage and they
see guitar amp, drums and a bass amp. They don't
expect that there's only going to be two people walking
up on stage. Kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That is exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
What's the name of the last song on the album? Again?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's called Handle with Care?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Okay. And the reason I ask is because when I
listened to this album multiple times over the last couple
of weeks, I'm just listening to it, so I'm not
staring at it. I don't know what the names of
anything is anymore.
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Speaker 4 (37:11):
Let's get back into it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So Handle with Care is actually my favorite song on
the album Oh Fun, because, like you said, it's pretty relatable.
You know, we've all been in some of these situations
that maybe we wish we weren't or wish we would
have handled differently or whatever. This is a question, it's
a huge ask, but I have you both here, I'm
holding you hostage, so I'm going to ask you now,
(37:37):
can I play Handle with Care on this episode?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Please for it?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Nice? Would you like to introduce it like your radio DJ?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh my goodness. Okay, Hey, this is Rachel.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And this is Angie from lips speak louder.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
And you're about to listen to our brand new song
Handle with Care from our new album Consolation Prize Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Are you not because I kept you with him in
my spiritual heart?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
To be in your shoes laying.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
God on your knees? Please tell me again? Also mean.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
There's a batories and that feeling rolling.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's the same shirt, all the differences. If you ever change,
I surprise made him.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'm not gonna lay him. As around comes around, I'm
not the.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
One shut your damn.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Then just stop blave on a bullshit baby.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Goes around? Comes around?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well did you bathing? Now? Do you think you couldnover?
(39:38):
Forget me?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Bad? Not to do? Tapplet burn on your teeth? Baye,
tell me how told you? Feeling? I'll be shot at them?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Make you out to try? O think maybe you should
get your fat under fool? Still ever changed?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I still fast? Bay there?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I'm not fair?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Goes on outcomes around.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm not the one shot your damn?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Did stop blay? Are your bullsh fay?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
There goes around? Comes around?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well do you believe in?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Don't believe?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Are not?
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Because I can't you waiting.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
In most bits of how to ban your shoes light.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Fantastic. I love doing that. It's one of my favorite things.
So on your website, I'm looking at some of the
things that you guys have on your website and I'm
very curious, is this a wristband?
Speaker 6 (41:57):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
So we have, like we have merch packages. One of
the Yeah, one of the merch packages we thought would
be fun is to throw in the Risks band from
the Loser video. Like we don't have the official video yet,
but like of the reels that we've been sharing, we
wore those in the video and thought that and the
little trophy that we share and it would be you know,
(42:19):
fun little memorabilia for a fan.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, I think that video potentially, depending on when this airs,
it may be out, because I think it'll probably come
out maybe end of May. But yeah, the Loser video,
the concept sort of visually was the feeling of like being,
you know, the kid who gets picked last it for pe,
for dodgeball or whatever it is, and so we kind
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of leaned into that. So we got like the matching
crew socks and the sweatbands in the headbands. So yeah,
for those couple of kind of super fan packages. With
the album, which I think are sold out now, but
you could get a little pieces of the props, So
that's where those come from.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Now you said which you think are sold out? Now
you mean the packages like the superfan packages or the
vinyl vinyl's not sold out?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Right? No? Not the vine just those there was because
we only had a limited a number of like those. Sure,
both props from the from the videos. So the packages
with the sweatbands, those are sold out, I believe, But no,
we still have vinyl, and we have a couple of
other vinyl packages that include like signed photo and stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think we still have some of those, so signed
drumhead or something.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, a couple of different options, right.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Do I understand this correctly? Is it a pink vinyl?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's gentile.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Okay, how come you went with that color? I know
that like like maybe last year or the year before.
It's so weird. There was a shortage of black vinyl,
like in the vinyl making industry, and so everybody was
having to pick all these crazy ass colors. Did y'all
pick this color on purpose or was there a black shortage?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah? I was on purpose? And that like we got
a press that United rac Pressing and they have tons
of fun combinations. You can pick and tons of different colors.
So we had passed it around the magenta and then like,
I think a teal green something like that, like some
sort of green color too, But we just were super
drawn to the pinkish magenta.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It really pops.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, we wanted it to be fun. Yeah, it's fun
to have a colored vinyl.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So it looks great. I love it a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Here is something that we didn't talk about, and I
want to be probably the last person to congratulate the
two of you. Where on the street is that y'all
recently became engaged.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Who asked who?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I asked Rach What did she say? She said, well,
of course, I will to quote her exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
She didn't get confused, like when you asked her to
be in a band. She was like, well, I mean
I don't know. I mean i'd be into that if you're.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's actually right. Yeah, I didn't like being around the bush.
I was like, well, you know, someday it'd be nice
to be married, you know, to like a girl who
happens to be like I don't know a band partner too.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I'd be like, how oddly specific.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Do you think that?
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, we know if you know anybody?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, let me know.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It was pretty direct, and you know, we got engaged
in Joshua Tree last month, so it's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, congratulations, are best wishes or whatever the kids are
saying these days, Thank you, Thanks, you are welcome. Is
there a plan for a wedding? Do you guys know
when it's going to be yet? It's going to be
in Austin and you're not going to invite me to
that either. I got to check my email.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh my gosh, oh yeah, you got an email.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
We had a couple ideas, but we're still we're still finalizing,
so I don't know, but it'll be probably somewhere fun.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I think, well, if you're together, it's going to be
fun no matter where it is.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Right, This is true. We are very fun people.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Are there any plans to tour this album?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Definitely planned. You know, we're kind of in the midst
of playing several regional shows and a couple like big
shows and festivals this spring and summer, but we are
trying to work on nailing down some bigger tours for
this album, like that's the goal, and we have some
irons in the fire and trying to work on that.
But nothing to announce just yet other than like the
(46:24):
shows that are announced already.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, but pretty consistent weekend regional stuff. So if you're
kind of anywhere nearish to the south Midwest and a
little bit on the East Coast, take a peek at
our website if you're looking to find a show, because
we do have quite a few weekend kind of little
short runs.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So you're saying that there is a tour button on
the website, there is, Yes, lipsspeak louder dot com is
where you're going to go for all of your consolation prizes.
I get it. So let's speak loud at dot comments
where you're going to go for tour dates, for magenta vinyls,
(47:05):
for hoodies and hats and all the crazy stuff. Do
you think that you guys are going to venture all
the way to cause, I mean, you guys were in
Joshua Tree, right, that's in California, So you're all going
to go play in California. I know you're talking all
this regional East Coast nonsense, but.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I'm sure eventually I mean, we're playing in Denver in June,
so that's half the way there, at least on the way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, our goal is to play like the West Coast
and stuff, but since it's so far, it is easier
to work that into maybe a tour that's already routed
and try and get on like an opening slot for that.
So like that would be one way to make that happen.
But yeah, we'll definitely be doing that at some point.
It's just we're still working on exacting the dates right now.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Tell me about the Denver show That is at.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Levett Pavilion in Denver, and it's June fourteenth. It's their
Pride night all so, and it's pretty cool because Rach
and I are opening the show, so let's speak. Louder
is doing a set, and then we are also playing
with Emily Wolf if she's the headliner, so we're backing her,
so we get to play our stuff and then like
go backstage, do a costume change, and then like come
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back out and play her stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
So it's is it just the two bands, there's just
a festival just the two bands. Y'all are going to
be tired, dude, we're young we're good, we're young, we're good. Fantastic, Angela.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Do you still tell the weather only to friends that
are scared when they're severe weather coming through town? So
just on an unprofessional like private basis, yes, just.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
On the down low, you tell everybody it's just calm down,
don't panic.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Just yet, don't panic. Yeah, just for fun.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Is there like a whole text chain group thing where
like a group chat on your phone where you just say, hey, look,
I'll tell you when to freak out.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Okay, No, but that's a great idea, because I think
I need to start charging money, like do a Patreon account,
like if you want a personalized forecast, and like some
calming techniques when there's a tornado warning or something like,
I should like start a group thread, take five bucks
a text from everyone, and just start like helping them
through this. But yeah, well it's a good idea, but
(49:15):
I'm not so not so much right now.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
A friend of mine, he's a popular YouTube guy, and
he said on his he said, on his show or
on his website or whatever, his instagram because he's from
the South, and so he said, hey, yeah, whenever we
get a tornado warning, we all just run to the
window to see what's happening, and he got a message
from the National Weather Service to please stop saying that
(49:43):
I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's such a stupid thing to say, but I don't
recommend it. But I also know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You know exactly? There you go, Okay, lip Speak Louder, Angela, Lucy,
Racial Brandsness, lipspeaklouder dot Com their new album, Consolation Prize.
It has all the cool things you got to hear
Handle with Care earlier, and you get to hear the
rest of the stuff when you buy their shits or
I guess you could stream it, but just go give
(50:13):
them money. Everybody needs money. Spotify does not need your money.
Go give these kids money, and again check their website
atspeaklouder dot com for tour dates and regional shows and
maybe they're going to go out west and make sure
if you're in the Denver area, you can check out
loop Speak Louder and Emily Wolf and just watch these
two ladies sweat their butts off twice Angela Rachel Before that,
(50:37):
you go, is there anything we didn't talk about specifically
that you wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I think maybe just a shout out to like Sweetwater
Studios for helping us create this album that we're super
proud of and Emily producing it. You know, she was
really great at like making sure that the songs were
protected still and she just brought out the best in
all of it. So, you know, just to give a
quick shout out to the too in particular to just
(51:02):
make an album that we're most proud of. Like, I've
never been part of a better sounding album. I think
all the songs are fantastic, So like, like I'm just
like extremely proud of that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Who did you say produced it?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Emily?
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Emily Emily Wolf. Oh so she knows you're cheating on
her and she's school with it. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
He knew us first from that and then after she
came in and we asked her to produce the record.
After we were in the studio, she ended up needing
needing people to back her on some shows and she
called us after that. So worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Well. Check you's the ladies out all right? Great again? Everybody?
Angela Lissy Rachel brand'sness. Angela Lissy is Tama Chick t
A M A C h I C K on Instagram
Rachel What are you on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Rachel BRAND'SNSS.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I know it's not no, it's cool, direct and to
the point.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
But you know, like nobody else, like very few people
have that last name. So it makes it a lot easier.
You don't have to be like, wait, which Rachel Brandson
is because there is only one.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, you just have to be able to spell it.
You just have to throw an S in there and
then you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, one and again at Lips Speak Louder on Instagram
as well. Are you guys on any other platforms besides
the Instagram's Are you making dumb TikTok videos?
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, we're on TikTok and YouTube and threads and you know,
reluctantly on Facebook that's kind of a dying social media
platform probably, but we're on there as well.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
All right, cool, everybody go find Lips Speak Louder and
then tell them that your favorite song is Handle with
Care because you heard it here. I'm fascinating street ladies. Again,
Congratulations or best wishes or whatever we're supposed to say
on your pending nuptials. Thanks man, Thank you so much
(52:55):
for taking the time out of your busy day and
your hectic lips speaking louder schedule to hang out and
list get to know you guys a little bit better
on Fascination Street. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Thanks for thank you so yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Thanks guys, see bye, have fun bye. Opening music is
the song FSP theme, written, performed and provided by Ambush Vin.
(53:26):
Closing music is from the song say My Name off
the twenty twenty one album Underdog Anthems, used with permission
from Jack's Hollow. If you like the show, tell a friend,
subscribe and rate and review the show on iTunes and
wherever else you download podcasts. Don't forget to subscribe to
(53:49):
my YouTube channel. All the episodes are available there as well.
Check me out on vero at Fascination Street pod and
TikTok at Fascination Street and again, thanks for listening.
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