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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, folks, I'm Florain Fox and I'm Will Wesley and
you're listening to the Fascination Street podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 5 (00:40):
Welcome Back Street Walkers. This is a bit of a
different episode. This one was recorded live at Lucanbock, Texas.
Previous guests of the show, Will Wesley and his friend
Florian Fox were playing the Thomas Michaelreilly Music Festival in Lukenbock, Texas,
and since that's only about a half hour away from
my house, Will invited me and my wife to come
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hang out with him and his and meet his buddy
Florian Fox. In this episode, we get to know a
little bit more about Will and how him and Florian met.
Will and Florian became fast friends when Florian came to
the US a few years ago to tour his brand
of country music and now on a pretty regular basis.
Will Wesley tours with Florian Fox in Switzerland and across Europe,
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and Florian comes to America to tour the US with
Will Wesley. We also talk about some of the places
they play and why a Swiss kid named Florian Fox
got into country music in the first place. We discussed
their playing together even though they have different musical styles.
Florian is heavily influenced by the likes of Johnny Cash,
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while Will is influenced by bands like Guns n' Roses,
but the pair make it work and have combined to
create a unique sound. They did put out a song
together called Wasted Again, which is a throwback to the
good old fashioned sing along country songs that everybody grew
up with. They do agree to let me play it,
and I think you're gonna enjoy it. If you're in
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or around Nashville, check them both out at the east
Side Bowl on July eighth, and you can check out
both of their instagrams and their websites to see when
they're playing at a venue or a music festival near you.
There is a bit of background noise, as I said
street walkers. This was recorded live at an outdoor music
festival during a torrential rainstorm, So bear with me on
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the sound quality. I did my best. I hope it's
not going to bother you guys too much. I had
a blast getting to know these guys. I think you
will too. And this is my conversation with Will Wesley
and Florian Fox, recorded live at the Thomas Michael Rilly
Music Festival in Lukenbock, Texas, for Better.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
To be Faminating.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Welcome to Fascination Street Podcast. Will Wesley, Florida Fox. How
a y'all doing today?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
They're good to be.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Here, all right? So we're here? Is is Lukenbox, Texas.
I've never been to Lukenbox, even though I lived thirty
minutes from here. Is this both of your first time
as well?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It is my first time at this particular festival. I've
been through Lukenbob, but never at the Thomas Michael Riley does.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So you have played here before, just not with the festival.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Who out the years, I've played some festivals and things
out the years.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Show all right, Lauren?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well for me, it's the very first time. I mean,
I've I drove through this part of Texas before, but
I've never actually stopped by and played at festival, so
this is this is new. I played in Marshall, I
played at Greenhall and New bron Poles not too far away.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
But Lukenbox first time. We got to say it's it's
really cool.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
How long ago was Greenhawk?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
That was last summer? Oh yeah before?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, were you there too? I was the hell yeah.
We kind of bond together here in the States and abroad. Okay,
speaking of Broad's Florian, you're from Switzerland, Zurich.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Were you born there or were you born here? I
was born in Zurich, but your dad was here because
he built like half the Tennessee highway system.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, so a little kind of sort of he was
he was in the in the sixties.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
He's an architect and he specialized in building cities, city planning,
and so he was he was in Nashville in the
sixties and he was planning part of the Neighborhood Renewal
Plan that's what they called it back then. It was
part of the highways, where of the city structure and
all that, And so he brought back to Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
He brought a couple of vinyl records.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Johnny Cash records, Joan Baez records, all that classic stuff
in the sixties, and so a lot of years later,
when I was born and I was a little kid,
you would play these vinyl records in front of me
on a Saturday, rainy Saturday morning, and I would.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Listen to the records and not know what that is,
but I thought it sounded great. And when I got.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
A little older, fifteen years old, first trip in America,
that's the kind of sound I want to play.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Say, fifteen years fifteen. So did you go to Nashville
that first trip.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Well, the first trip wasn't in Nashville, it was through
the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I did sort of a Root sixty six kind
of trail over my parents and I moved to the
US five years ago.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I moved to Nashville and I.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Got to know a lot of great people, a lot
of my producer, Chuck Mee performingly b R five for nine.
Oh yeah, I got to meet this gentleman here Will
down in Louisiana.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
So we've been teaming up ever since. That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So what was the occasion that you guys met Was
it playing together? Was at a festival?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, it was very interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
We had a mutual agent from the Texas area, Carrera Nuccio. Yeah,
and she had attended a show I did down in Faraday, Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It was at the Arcade Theater.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
She had met me in then she said, hey, I've
got an artist that I met, Belie Yellen, met at
a Texas Awards show.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, right, So I was playing a ward
show in It was somewhere in East Texas.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
It wasn't Marshall back then. Now it's located in Marshall.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Back then, that was during COVID, and I got a
message from the promoter of that award ceremony festival saying
You're nominated for.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
An American US American Country Music Awards. Said, well, how
cool is that?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So the coincidence was I moved to Nashville just two
months earlier. I just drove down to Texas and I
played that award show. I met here the agent in
a restaurant next to the you know, just across the street,
and we got talking. And so a couple of months
later I rang her and said, well, here, I'm looking
at doing a tour through Texas. Anything you can help
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me with that regard and said, well, I know a
young gentleman called will Wesley, and that's that's you.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And the funny thing is that she called me and said, look,
there's a guy I'm going to introduce you to and
that's all there is to it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And I said, okay, all right, that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We met through like I think we actually first started
talking on a zoom right, yes, that's right, yeah, and
we from there started making the plan. When he comes here,
we tour together and I go there, I tour with him.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So how many times have you played in the American circuit?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's starting to get hard to count, really, Yeah, over
the years, it's it's several tours a year.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
How is it possible that you're a practicing lawyer in
Switzerland if you're here all the time?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I asked that same question.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Well, there's a simple recipe of that. You just don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, you know, it helps a lot. You can just
haul around your laptop and your backpack and work from
wherever you are, right and so that makes things a
lot easier.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
But uh yeah, sure, as sure as a strain on
the nurse.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So even when you're here touring and playing music. You're
still doing the lawyer thing.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, I am. Actually I was.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I was working all day yesterday, but you know, during
we did a rehearsal.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Then when the rehearsal was finished, I started working for
the office.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's very true. I can testify it. I'm starting to
call him the outlaw lawyer, the outlawyer, the out lawyer.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, but I think it's fair to say that music
is taking up more and more of my time.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I'm very happy about this whole thing that's going in
the direction that's going. And we're growing our name.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean, you're helping me grow the name in the US,
and I'm helping Will grow his name in Europe.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
So it's sort of a partnership that we formed over
the year. It's sort of all happened, right.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's just it was very natural, you know. But it's
been a great it's been a great friendship. Man. It's
been growing and growing.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So when you go to Switzerland, well, do you play
festivals or is it the same thing just on a
different continent. You know, it's it's very similar.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, when we'll go to the Switzerland, a lot
of times we play very very nice festivals.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But also we'll play the intimate ruins as well, you know,
very similar to the American tour.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We may come here and play a big festival, then
do a couple of nice listening rooms and go back
to the festivals.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We kind of balance between festivals.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And listening and so that's the schedule for both continents. Yes,
So now today's Friday. We're at the what is the
name of this festival.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Thomas Michael Riley Music Festival.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And look about Now that's in deep South Texas and
we're on Friday, and it is six o'clock. But in
forty eight hours more than that you're playing. Is it
a motorcycle festival or what is it that you're playing
on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
It's a great event.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's a big, big festival which is sort of built
around motorcycle culture, but it's actually it's for the benefit
of disabled children's muscular district.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Well you're well important about things in Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Say why did you get involved with this festival here?
It's something that's very near and dear to you.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, it's very as you say, it's very near and
dear to me. To help people they didn't grow up
in the circumstances, didn't get the same chances that I did.
Once is plice a year. I think it's very valuable
to do something for the community, you know, to be generous.
And we're doing this out of the goodness of our hearts.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
And it really makes me feel good about it, you know,
and it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Gives these people a lot, and it gives me a
lot connecting with them. You have a different view on
life and what's important, and that's very, very invention. I
appreciate you that well said my friend will say.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I gotta know, why is your English so good?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Because I taught it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm just thinking, well, I think it's hung around these Southerners,
truth be told. So my father, obviously you lived in
the US for a long time, and the part of
our family is just from California.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm away being from Texas. Apologize I should have said that, but.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
We laid off the California part of a long time ago.
That's what I gotta say.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
So, and I lived in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
For a long time and so I sort of just
adapted to adapt quickly the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Do you have houses in both places. You live in
Nashville and you live in Zurich.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
So I had an apartment in Nashville for a long time.
But since I'm touring mostly in Europe these days. I mean,
if you just look at the schedule, a lot of
days are in Europe. So I gave up on that
apartment and sort of have a flexible model where I
stay with the bands that I play multiple bands in
the US, so wherever I'm at.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I got to stay with them.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's a lot cheaper, there's a lot more efficient. But yeah,
maybe in the future i'll move I'll moved back, you know,
we'll see about that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I'll be awaiting.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I always need a good lawyer, that's right, giving you
out of jail, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I don't need no more of that in my life.
Will Wesleymusic dot Com. The Jail Tour, the jail They're
going down to folsom Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, Now, little Birdie told me that every once in
a while you play with Miranda Lambert, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, yeah, I played with Mariana Lambert the country I
Get Shot, which is one a half years ago. That's
one of the big big vessels that we have over there,
and I'm actually going to bring will to that vessel
this year.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Oh, I'm excited. It's going to be in September.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
She actually got married about fifteen minutes from here, Miranda.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Wow wow, small world.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, what's a small world?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I need to tell me about the Black Bearons. What
is the Black Bearons? Florian?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, that's a long story, a long story, long ago too,
but it's uh, the Black Barons is the band that
I formed when I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Was this after your tour?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yeah exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I did in the Root six or six trip sixth trip,
and I came back and thought, well, I gotta I
gotta do something, you know, and I gotta play the sound.
And I didn't really have a name for it in
the beginning, but just you know, Johnny Cash was and
still is to this day, big inspiration on based on
those records.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yeah, based on those records.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I started playing Johnny Cash stuff and Carl Perkins material
in the first two years or something until I started
to write in my old songs.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
But still Johnny Cash was a strong influence.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And so it's the Man in Black so he called
it black and he had a record out called The
Barons in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, as there's even music video with Marty Stewart playing
in it as his son. So I figured, you know,
a like disappearance of Johnny in the video being this
very elegant tall guy, I thought, why not call ourselves
the Black Barons.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
It's classic, it's elegant, and it's it stands for this
kind of sound. Yeah. So did that for about ten years.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Ten years, Yeah, that was ten years started top here
fifteen lasted ten years, it did it?
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Actually did.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We don't have the same people all the time that
I kept it going and until it was a bit
ran about until two thousand and nineteen or twenty where
I thought, well, now I really want to do the
real thing. And I was sort of at a new
point in my life. I thought, you know, I want
to experience the real country. And so I moved to
Nashville in my own record, and that's what got born
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Fox started.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now understand that American country music is for some reason,
it's huge in Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yeah why how what?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Why is it big in Switzerland?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, I think Switzerland and America especially Texas, we got
a lot of common.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
We got a lot in common.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know, it's a I want to always say, it's
both Texans and Swiss people. We're down to earth, we're
down on earth. And I always say we got both
boots on the ground and we got part of the
right spot. And so that I think that's sort of
a natural connection. And then there's a second element to it.
You know, we the Swiss people, we live in a
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very confined space. We're sort of boxed in between lakes
and mountains and rivers, and so we never get these big,
big prairies. And so I think when a Swiss guy
comes to America, he sees a lot of these things
he's never had by big prairies, you know, just the
generosity of the land and the fenderless of the people.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
That's something very inspiring. And I've never looked that up.
Probably it's a lot bigger. Yeah, I don't think we
need to look that up. So it's it's it's it's
a lot bigger. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So what is your experience will when you go to Switzerland?
Do you feel the same word he's saying, I do
you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
When every time I go to Switzerland. I cannot escape
the true love of the people love country music. They
absolutely adore it, and like do.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
They wear cowboy hats and cowboy they do?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
They do. They show up and they look about as
fashionable as I do on a lucky day. But that
being said, you know, they.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
They actually are great people there and they they they
love country music. And my experience has been nothing but warm,
you know.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Just welcoming.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Everybody there is always really just went out of their
way to be kind, you know, and it's it's a
place I love you move here, I might move there.
I don't know, it could happen. Then I could stay
with each other when you do your tours, that's.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Right, absolutely, we could do what's it called house swapping?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
House swapping?
Speaker 7 (16:05):
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
When you guys do tour Europe, is it just what
you've all over the place? What do you do when
you're both in Europe?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The last couple of years we've teamed up to do
a Swiss War So it's basically about five to seven
shows and ten days.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Down today in general are really busy, your get them exhausted.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I am by the time I get home.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So we get interviews, we get TV shows, we get festivals,
listening rooms. We all squeeze it into ten days and
then they leave again. Right, we'll leaves again. We're going
to expand into Germany and the Netherlands too, because we
realized there's a big, big country music team there.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
What is going on with country music across the world.
It was a really long stretch where it was not
popular here.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't like to say that, but
I think a lot of it has to do with
the fact that country music and pop music are intermingling.
That's right, make sure, thanks Taylor, Yeah, Taylor, and I
mean Luke Combs and all these guys that are pretty
big over there too. And I think that the closeness,
the vicinity of country music these days.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
With pop music certainly helps because there's a lot of
people who just listen to pop music and they may
hear a country record and think, oh, that's pretty similar,
but it's got the special special edge to it, yes,
And so they listen.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
In and say, oh, this guy's from the US, and
they sort of, you know, get the whole thing going.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And that helps us a lot because the festivals are
getting bigger, the crowds are getting bigger, so that that
helps us expand our business.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
And the more they expand, the more we expand. Right, Yeah,
I want to talk about your personal styles, Florian. You have,
for lack of a better term, I've been heavily influenced
by Johnny Cash and that style of music. Will you're
he'll be influenced by guns and all kinds of So
how is it that these two things work together in
the way that they do, which is it's a glorious
(18:07):
synergy if you asked me, because the two of you
sound fantastic to other. Will your music separately sounds way
different than the music that y'all do together, which it
just hurt tonight, yep. And then Glorian your stuff separately
also sounds different on the stuff that Will's I involved in.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So how does y'all walk that line?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I caught that, you know, the keyword, if I may say,
I think it's just the naturalness of it. You know,
I was raised on classic country music. My father was
a classic country picker, you know, and starting out I
loved everything, But you know, meeting Florian and the more
that we started working together.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It kind of brought me back to my roots doing that,
and I love rockabilly.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm a big rockabilly fan, and this man just embraces
rockabilly all the way and he also has some classic
country in himself. So I felt like it just I
think the two styles just kind of meshed based off
of going back to your roots and being that.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
How do you feel about a box?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Absolutely, I think we have a very common understanding of
what music should be like, right, the kind of music
or the kind of music we want.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
To do together.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes, And I think that's a very very rare kind
of situation because I've never had this kind of you know,
bond to another musician or so far so far away,
And uh, I think you can see it in our
in the songs we write together, for instance, that same
way we have out wasted again, yes, or times catching
up to me, especially times catching up to me. You
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feel this rock to the will brings in, but it's
it's got a country edge to it. And you can
play with a fiddle, you can play with a steel
guitar then whatever you like. And I think that's that's
what makes our styles. So it's a matching and it
makes us go really well at the festivals and listening
to news.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
And we're both energetic guys, so we're gonna find a
way to make that happen.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, that's that's what I appreciate about you will. You
always get the job done.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And I appreciate that about too. Even when you kick
out the lights, the play still.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Kick the mic stand.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, sounds like a story.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, it might be our next single.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Lot, I don't know, kicking the mic stand, kicking the lights,
kicking the lights out, or I'm gonna make a song
out I.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Actually write that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You know, Flora, you have a song called country Man?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Is that actually about your father?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I don't write songs, but you're not a true story.
It's three chords and of the truth. And sometimes I
say three chords in a heart.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because if you want to have a song really touch people,
you gotta put your heart into it. Got I think
there's really been a song that I put more heart
into than that one.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Because my father is he's my dad is ninety years old.
He turned nine. Oh my god, yeah, yeah, he's nine
years old. He was born in nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
How old are you well, what do you think he's
also ninety years old.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh my name was Benjamin Bud Yeah. Yeah, Now I'm
thirty three years old. So yeah, there's quite a gap
between us.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
But it was a good thing. You know, my dad
influenced me in many, many ways that I assume a
younger dad could have done.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And he also introduced me to American culture, which is
very influential for.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Me as you can see the present day. Yeah, he
just he just taught me to be a man, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He tellt me had a tough enough and be a
man about problems that arise, and and also be kind,
be kind of people. And so this is what this
song is supposed country Man is supposed to talk about,
is be kind of people, be warm, you know, and
be warm to your family members like he's been to me,
and at the same time have this this southern attitude,
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you know, being friendly and but doing your ship right right.
And now that he's sort of getting older, I dedicated
a song to him just to tell what, Dad, I
see what you've done for and I'm very very grateful
for it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What does he think about it about that song?
Speaker 6 (21:57):
He was very touched, He was he was very emotional
when you first heard it. I gave him the record.
When he turned ninety, I gave him the record, said
this is this is a record with a song for
you on it. You know, he never cries, but I
saw these tears in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
What does he think about your chosen careers? What does
he think about you being a lawyer? And what does
he think about this musician?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I think he thinks I'm a nutcase all that shit.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, seriously, he's very grateful that I get to do
what I do. You know that that I have the
energy and and the inspiration and do all these things.
And sometimes he says, well, son, are you sure you're
not doing too much?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's from of the guy who built the Nash Whale
Highway system. He was doing too much.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It was, well, I.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Should come over and build some more highways. Now all
traffic dams.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Back then Highway in Texas is under construction. I'm sure
you've seen them.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, saying a lot of people moving in.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What about your mom? What does your mom think about
this music stuff?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Well, my mom is probably my first and foremost supporter.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Put it this way, She's running her entire network which
is a large network of people.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
She's flooding them with invitations to festivals.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And here's Florence here, Florence there, there's a new podcast,
and that for it gets to a point where I
started asking people, was is it getting too much for you?
She's seriously, she's she's my greatest supporter. She's got nothing
but love for me. She's had that all my life,
and I've had nothing but love for her. And she
gave me my first guitar when I was seventy years old.
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Oh wow, and that sort of got me started on music.
I started playing classic guitar when I was seven. It
took a while and sell I picked up on the
country and twitched to the western guitar.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
But here I am doing playing country music at all.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
What a good job you're doing at it.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Hey, thank you sir.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Did you take lessons? Did somebody teach her how to play?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I had lessons on classic guitar, but I taught myself
to play country music.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And I've never had singing lesson, so I taught myself
to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Now, well, I know that you have a storied musical
learning and education thing you're whooping up on getting your
ass kicked by some old dudes. Yeah, had some competitions.
But if you could teach him one thing on the guitar,
what would it be, Florian?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Well, I'll have to first say I'm a fan of
the way he plays guitar.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
If I was to teach him anything on a guitar,
it would be I guess the most important.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Thing is maybe a few guitar scales so we can
do some twin leads together. Yeah. Do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I think that sounds just like a plan for a
Swiss tour.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I think that's what we'll do on the Swiss tour.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well, I'll teach you a few major and minor scales
so we can flow together.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Let's do that, hass Yeah, let's do that and look
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Do you guys write together besides waste it again? Do
you guys write together?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
We do, and we have an ambition to. Actually we
had spoke about this. We were talking about trying to
come out with a more kind of will the Circle
Be on Broken style record where we sit down and
we explain the meanings behind the songs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And talk about it in the kind of like a
behind the music, Yes, like an explanation of this song
is about and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yes, it's definitely been discussed. We gotta we gotta get
a date on that.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Yeah, it sounds cool as hell.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeh. Yeah, man, we got a lot of stories between us.
I think it'd be very interesting to start telling these
stories to the people.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh yeah, so you have stories severally, But you guys
have been playing what like four or five years together
all over the world, so I would imagine i'all do
have stories together.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Some I won't put on this podcast. We do have
some stories.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Absolutely, don't do it, otherwise he's gonna end up in jail.
I have that lawyer again, Florie. What's your favorite Will
Wesley song?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, I have a lot of favorite Will Wesley songs,
but I'll say this, the song that connects us, or
that that made me very made me very interesting and
curious about this artist Will Wesley was Leah.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
A song Leah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And there's a very interesting biographical similarity. Oh yes about
the two of us, which I still find is a
large part of our bond, is that we have common
roots in that sense.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yes, And it's his song Leah and my song Georgia.
They're both about mean women.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, mean women me and women who treated us wrong
and just made us think about ourselves and sort of
turned us into the people we are today, meaning that
we don't give up, we don't give in, we don't.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Lie down on the ground and get kicked. Well, we
may get kicked, but we get back up and when
we do, we're gonna get it right.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And that's what this song Leah is about, what this
song George is about. And these are the songs that
just mind us together. And that's the song that introduced us.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, well, what's your favorite flor song?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well he got this song called Georgia. But there is
box is telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There really is a bond to those songs because it
was ironic that I was going through something very similar
on the female front as you were.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And there's just been very striking similarities.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
First of all, I wrote Leah about about a woman
that just you know, she she would reel you in
just to push you away. You know, love was a
cat and mouse game to her, and Georgia is very similar.
And that's when we heard each other's song. I said, Man,
I felt like I wrote that and he said, well,
I felt like I wrote that, you know, and from
there we began to bond on that notion. But also
the scary part is when I actually saw the actual
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Georgia in a picture and I saw the actual Leah
in a picture, it.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Was strikingly scary, how.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It really was.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I said, well, I guess we got similar tas of women.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
What we call is a brother, we call that a
brother from another mother. Right, That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
That's it interesting. Tell me about the song Wasted Again.
You know, is there a story behind that song and
did all write it together?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
There is, and you know there was collaboration between us
on that song. I tell the story that when I
sat down on the right Wasted Again, Laurien, that told
me to write the most universal country song.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
The truth behind that is that is true.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
But you know, I wanted to write a song it
wouldn't just unite me and Florian as artist, but it
would unite where we're from, you know, And we wanted
to create a sing along that would really you know,
they can sing along, whether it's right here in Texas,
whether it's in Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You know, something that would really just unite us with
our fans.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
You know, just a happy country sing along the song
and that really was the inspiration behind it. Me and
him put that together and it just felt so natural
on the classic country field that we just we just
went with the field of it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I love that. This is a big ask, but I
got to both here. So I'm to ask you. Can
I play Waste It again on this episode of the show.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yes, you may be our guest.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Now, Will, when you were on and we played twelve
o'clock in Texas, you introduced that song like you're a
radio DJ. Yeah, So I'm not gonna let you do
it this time, Lauria, Will you introduce this next song
like you're a radio you say, from any country? You're truer?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You mean wasted again?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yes, I do to introduce in Germans, that'd be amazing. Well,
it's still like this, ladies and gentlemen. Now you're gonna
listen to the true sense of country us. If you
go to your heart and listen, what is the true sense.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Of country music.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's gonna be a good old drink along sing along song.
And that's Wasted Again. You're on Fascination three podcasts from
Will Wesley and Florian Fox.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Wasted again.
Speaker 11 (29:42):
Her memories have come around, remind me old things, and
I'll try to forget. Someday I'll try to not think
of will min I have been. But tonight I'm throwing
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on back wasted again.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Wasted again, the troubles.
Speaker 12 (30:15):
Upon my mind in the matter, how I try the
nether end. Tomorrow I'll try to get back home my
feet again. But to night we're throwing back wasted again.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Listened it again.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I'm drinking my bles.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Week wasted again, see the troublesp the day.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Tomorrow I'll try to get back on my feet again.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
Butts tonight we're throwing it on the back, wasted again,
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wasted it again.
Speaker 12 (31:48):
We're drinking us away, wasted it again.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Save us from time.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Fantastic. I love that song. I was hoping I would
play it, and I'm glad that you did.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
So thank you for sure.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
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get back into it.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I was also hoping you would play Daddy worked post
the moment didn't have to. Oh is that a cover?
Is that original?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
It's a cover.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This was written by Chuck me from br Oh your guy? Yeah,
this se in Nashville, so he wrote that song. I
thought it was a killer, kick ass song.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That song. The first time I heard that, I almost
fell off the ladder. I was laughing my ass off.
It was one funny I love that song.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's quite essential Chuck Me.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Sense of irony in there. It's just it's just mind blowing.
And we tour with Chuck last year. I tour with
them in America and then will I we we played
a couple of festivals in Switzerland along with Chuck. That
was a bonding moment.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You know, if I may say so on this podcast,
to make Chuck do it. I don't even know if
you've heard this one, Fox, but I want to hear Chuck.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Me play live. She got the ring and I got
the finger. That was that's a good one. That's a
good yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And you haven't heard it play it live? I haven't,
but I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's a great song.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
We should get in the play.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
When's the next time you are going to be around him?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Oh yeah, Nashville, July eighth, We're going to be playing
the east Side Bowl. We're going to be opening up
the show for him. So he's going to be playing
at the east Side Bowl. We're open up and he's
gonna be after and whoever else is gonna be after that.
But at the west Side Bowl is some of the
place where real country music comes together in Nashville. It
used to be it's called the honky Tonk Tuesdays, and
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they moved from Gallatin Pipe from old.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Legion Post City too. It's sort of a better room place.
They moved the format to east Side Bowls. So that's
where we're going to be playing as on eight pm
on July we're there.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Where would somebody find tickets?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, that's going to be on Eastside Bowl dot Com,
I guess, or at the door at the door.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Fantastic. Is there a link in each of your let's
just go with Instagram. You're both on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Is there a link in your bio to your dot
COM's Western.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Music dot Com Western music dot com at Flora Fox
dot com.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now, what if somebody needed a really good lawyer, Well.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
You'd probably have to call Florin Roth back in Switzerland
at Florian dot Roth at Balder dot com.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Whichever way you spell that before you.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Accept the quick check check with Florian.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Wrong, that's right, I'm supposed to say from mister Robbie
in Zurich, I'm supposed to say, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That sounds very right there. Well, yeah, absolutely, man, that
sounded authentic.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay, Florian, you played the Outlaw Country Cruise is what
it's called?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah? Did Will?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Were you on this cruise?
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I was on the country music cruise.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
But you're gonna listen with me. Tell me about this
Outlaw Country Cruise?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
How did you get invited? How was it? Why did
you do? Are you gonna do it again?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That was one hell of a cruise, man, I mean
I played cruises before. I play crewis Free regularly song.
I'm gonna be on the Country Music on the River
Cruise in October this year. It's going to be in
Europe and France. And I played a country music cruise
on the Mediterranean see twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
That was big time, But the Outlaw Cruise was something different.
So that's uh, really where the legends come together.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
That was along with em Lou Harris and Rodney Crowll
and people like that, so and Carlin Carter's so I
got to hang out with Carli Carter and help her
find her glasses if you.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Lost bag stages Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, and uh I played with with Chuck on that lineup,
so yeah, I got invited by Chuck and me to
join him on that crew. So that was that was
real fun and being able to play with legends. That
format is displose your mind.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Was there opportunities when nobody was playing, because I mean
nobody's playing twenty four hours a day, but was there
opportunities for you to get to me, to hang out
and get to know some of those foks? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Absolutely, that was That was very inspirational, you know, especially
the times where you would have dinner with the artists backstage.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
That's the place where they feel relaxed.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know, you don't you don't want to give them
the impression of hey, I'm a tourist, I want to
talk to you and take a picture.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
They don't like that kind of ship, right.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
So you got to you gotta stick to the manors
and just be really at it again and know them
a little bit, and after a couple of days they're
going to.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Feel all comfortable around you and they'll be a picture
with you.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So just gotta act like you've been there before.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Yeah, don't be desperate about it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Florian, tell people where they can find you on social media.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
So the best way to find me is on Glori
and Fox Stomp Music on Instagram or Florian Fox Stomp
Music on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And they can find most of your stuff on Spotify.
I know you don't like to put everything there, but well.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Who told you that you do?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I did?
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Okay, good, even all the better. Yeah, so I have
most of my stuff on Spotify. Yeah, and it's just
just look for Florian Fox.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And where did you get Fox from?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
That's a long story. How much time you got until
it stops raining. Well here's a thing. So, uh, my
real name, sir, is Florian Rock.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Right, And so when I moved to Nashville, I thought,
nobody's going to be able to pronounce rock. You could
have thought definitely Philip Roth and so forth, but anyway,
I didn't go so far think about that. So I thought,
let's get something real, you know that that people can pronounce.
And f F this sounds good. Florine Fox just popped
them ahead at some night, Will did it, will Leslie? Yeah,
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there you go, litt Leslie.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Florien Fox. It just works. It just works. It just works.
It's easy to memorize.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
But I was at a Starbucks surely after I moved
there Nashville, and uh, they always ask you to give
your first name, right so they remember who they need.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
To get the coffee to.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So I said, well, my name is Florin. It said
what I said, Florian. So looked at me and said,
he says that. Yeah, I said Florian and said okay.
She looked confused, wrote something on that cup, and then
she called me and said, here's your coffee. She didn't
say the name. I looked at the cup cup and said,
where are you? Well, maybe I should have changed my
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first name, not my second name. Is it a family
name works Florian company, that's actually we don't have any
floor instant family.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Now, that's my mother.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
She came up with that name because I was born
in March, second of March, and that's the time when
flowers are coming out, Laura spring and and if Florine
is the guy the blossoms, you know, and every sense
of the words.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
So she said, well, that's that's a good name for
this child.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I love the sweet story. Are you an only child?
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I am?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Actually yeah, I got three half sisters a lot older
than me. But I learn from that I'm an only child.
That's a sweet story. Will Where can people find you
on social media?
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, you can find me at will Wesley music dot com.
And if you can't find me there, just search all
your local jails and taverns. Then if you can't find
me there, well you can just go to Spotify and
pick me up at will Wesley.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
How much suggest the taverns first?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, because if somebody's looking for you and they go
to the jail, they might also get to stay there, and.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
We don't want that, so we don't want to encourage
that kind of negative That's right, That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh, thank you guys so much for doing this. Thanks
you guys are reading us, and I had a blast.
I'm so glad I got here, hear y'all. I'm also
glad that this weather didn't kill it. I super appreciate
both of you, all three of you. Thank you, man.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
That was a great interview.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I told you I was excited to come here, man,
I've never been here before. First one, First one.
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