April 10, 2025 • 52 mins
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Episode 794 (S11 Ep. 19)
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Episode 794 (S11 Ep. 19)
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, and welcome to Fast Break Breakfast NBA podcast.
My name is Keith Parish and I'm here once again
with my buddy, through the miracle of computer phone, I'm
here with Dave de four. Dave, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Fantastic? I'm good to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, you look fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I honestly, man, I'm fired up.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Basketball or I'm so good.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I mean life is good. Well, okay, well, but
day to day life is good.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
For mecoin rebounded.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't want to talk about retirement, but.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We don't retire.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I can breathe, you know, I can breathe the air
for now. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Can I tell you Dave a couple of things. One
good job by us once again matching our T shirts.
This happens an unbelievable number of times without any coordination whatsoever.
We do wear a lot of heather gray, which that's
what we're doing right now if we see this on YouTube.
But other times it could be like a burgundy, it
(01:19):
could be like a heather burrow. Maybe it's just a
lot of heather. Sometimes we're just wearing our black T shirts.
Sometimes we're both wearing our black just there's no coordination.
But we're on this wavelength right now. We are like
we are like Jason Kidd and Nico Harrison, just just
on this same exact wavelength. Also, Dave, when I said
all right, welcome to FA Fast, I prey panicked because
(01:44):
it's been three weeks and I wasn't sure what the
thing was. I've done like ten Gritz and Grinds episodes
since the last Fast Break Breakfast episode of apology there
to everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The podcast switch back and forth is always tough.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is tough. It's like, wait, what's my sign off
for the one? Why do I have different signum? I
I have two separate podcasts.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
No one knows, right, I can't. When I came back, man,
my first show back, I was like, oh, I definitely hiccuped.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
How do you think Zach Clowe's I have not heard
the new Zach Lowe show.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, I am amazing, it's a different thing. I'm
amazed that people still listen to this show. Yeah, like
like ten years people listen. I've listened for ten years.
I listened to like five years of Zach Lowe. And
at some point you're like, Zach Lowe has become a
caricature of himself, and I know I have become a
caricature of myself. I think.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But Danny Green retired and it forced me to reinvent
a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You mean, oh, you can't go to the Danny.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
My Danny Green bit died.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And you know, I know your new bit is just
your Tobias Harris's your Harrison Barnes, Big Harrison Barnes day.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
How about Harrison Barnes. My favorite part about the I mean,
I don't want to jump the gun.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shut the gun.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
My favorite part about the Harrison Barnes game winner was
that he that he put Draymond on the free throw line.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, right before he felled for no reason. Draymond was
twenty seven feet away from the basket with like four
seconds left. Here Harrison March with a two point lead,
is like, you know what I want to do. I
want to hit an awesome game winner. Here. I'm gonna
foul you. I'm gonna foul I think.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Draymond's gonna shoot bricks. I know I get the rebound.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I don't know. So that happened after I fell asleep.
I woke up this morning to the thrilling news as
a Grizzlies fan that the Warriors had dropped the game.
And then I go back and watch it because I
want to see how uh you know? Colenna Azabookie responds
on the broadcast. So I go back and watch the
Warriors broadcast to see the end, and I can't believe
how the final minutes go, Like Kelton Johnson's posting up,
(03:55):
Draymond hooping all over him. There's so much of no
no calls as Draymond wax him. But then Harrison Barnes fouls.
To me, it looked like he fouled on purpose. To me,
it looked like he didn't understand the situation. He's like, oh,
I have a foul to give with three seconds left,
Let's make him inbound it again. But anyways, he doesn't.
Draymond hits both free throws. Then on the game winner.
(04:16):
Wasn't Jimmy Butler trying to foul? It looked like Jimmy
Butler tried to foul on the catch.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Because because they had one to give, everyone to.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Give, as far as I could tell, and it looked
like he like he shoves Harrison Barnes when he catches
the pass, and I maybe the last team report, which
comes out in like an hour, maybe it's gonna say
that was a miscall fouled on purpose. But then Harrison, Yeah, Drills,
I think.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They just know. I think also you got Draymond and
you got Jimmy Butler, and they know they're gonna get
away with a lot in that circumstance. Like nobody's calling
those reps. They don't want to call that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The Spurs in that game, Dave. They were playing all
their best players down the stretch in a game in April.
Is that even allowed.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes revenge games?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, Chris Paul was cheering, but like I mean, they
had you know, Steph Cass out there making awesome passes
to Kelton Johnson. They they were even though they were
eliminated from the playoffs and the play in they were
trying to win the game in April. This is stunning behavior, amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So without even having Quentin Grimes out there.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, anyway, I don't know, that's a look.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That was a fun game. I honestly, the games have
just been so much fun and super COMPETI some of
the games Okay, okay, we're not watching. We're not watching
the bad games anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
This is you're not watching. You're not watching. Just in
a champagnee rack up awesome stats because I.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We had what it was at Wizards and Sixers on
the same day as Raptors Hornets. Yeah, both all so
both of those games featured uh the wins were less
than fifty for both teams combined in those in those.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Games, you're not watching? Wait?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Who who did they not watch those games?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wait? Who did the triple double on the Raptors last night?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
There was a there was a triple Yeah, Mago, I
can't watch it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Mago had a triple double? You were watching that. Jeff
Dowden had a thirty piece on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Definitely not No, no, I leave that to other people.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm having a dave. I'm having a hard time. I'm
having a hard time balancing this Zach Edy breakout. They
fired they you know, they fired Taylor Jenkins all a sudden.
Zach Edy is getting twenty boards every game, and I'm like, yeah,
but Jordan Goodwin had to twenty three rebound game for
the Grizzlies last April. How is Zach Edy's twenty one
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rebound game, and I know the Grizzlies have to win,
but when you're playing the Hornets and they're on a
thirteen game losing streak, I'm having trouble balancing the stats.
I'm also having trouble figuring out which games are real
which games are not real, because obviously you have some games.
You have these huge games like and of course the
Luca Dnca return game to Dallas. You had the Lakers
(07:04):
game against the Thunder, like Lakers are game playing games
to win, and then some nights the teams aren't playing
to win, and so it's hard to figure out like
are the are the Thunder or Cavaliers struggling? Slash just
no one cares anymore? Like you, you did your thing,
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't know. I see the Calves are funny. I
actually think the Calves in March struggled. I think whatever
does it matter is different. I don't I don't think
it matters now, but I do think that there is
a blueprint for beating them, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I'm also looking at the Thunder and their performance against
the other best teams, and you're like, it's kind of mediocre.
But then does it even matter when you're when you're
ten games ahead the whole season, does any mean we.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Look, man, we know it turns into a different sport
next week. Yeah, that's the thing. And I so when
I'm thinking about like what the Thunder did this regular
season and the weaknesses that they have, I think a
lot about what it's going to look like in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, let's get to that. Maybe we'll come back to
that in a second. Let's hit her, let's hitt our breakfast,
and then let's plow through maybe some some best and worst.
I don't know, I'll see what happens. Dave, did you
eat oatmeal or anything?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Of course? Okay, of course oatmeal? Dates? Uh you know
had a banana protein shape.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, so I had a little I had I had
a date in my breakfast, my breakfast. I grabbed some
kind of weird I don't want you what would you
call it? Like health like an it's the label says
r X bar. Oh right, it has all the ingredients
on it, and the ingredients are absurd. This is like
the smallest morsel I think it was point nine ounces
(08:45):
and dense, Yeah, very oh, very dense. It's took a
solid thirty seconds to chew. No, but I have the
ingredients because the ingredients were posted on the rapper, Dave,
I had half an egg, white, three almonds, one cash
you mm hmm, and one date.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Pretty good, you know, I I there's something to that, right,
four amons a day. If you had four almonds a day,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Get the one cash you mixed in there for the
cash for flavor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Flavor.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, that was my.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Walnut or something would be maybe a little bit more. Uh,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That was my breakfast, your breakfast, same as always, Dave,
Thanks for mixing it up for us. The uh after
I keep it, we moved to our breakfast in bed. Apologies.
This is my chance to make right. I've gotten wrong
on a previous episode frequently. The first time we talked
about the NBA. But we broke that seal. Speaking of
breaking the sealed day of my basement flooded last week.
(09:45):
Not great. Yeah, I don't know the next time I
will be recording with the shelves of nineteen eighties childhood
toy toys behind me.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did the toys make it?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Or they did? So? We had set up our basement
in a way where everything of value was off the ground,
just in case ground water ever got back in there.
Our little neighborhood in Nashville was in fact hit pretty
hard by some rain storms last week, and other people
(10:18):
flooded much worse than we did. We just got the
annoying level of water, which is any water. So we
got the finished basement. I mean he got a solid
like inch or so, so we had to we got
to like we got all the French out of there.
And then after we had basically been shot backing and
clearing everything out and bailing water. Also, this is like
(10:41):
it felt very uh like sisyphus sisiphian, where like we
have a we have like a we have a drain
because we have like a full sized shower. Sure that's
blow the sewer level. We have a pump that raises
up to the sewer level. And I'm like bailing water slash,
you know, shot backing at the same time. Like but
I'm two hand, I'm double fisting one hand, shot back
(11:03):
the other hand like a six yeah, And so I'm
just I'm just I'm bailing it into the drain. And
I hear the I hear the the pump pushing into
the sewer but my whole thought the whole time is like,
are the sewers overloaded? It's just all just kind of
is it just like a close is a closed circuit.
It's like a loop where I'm just dumping it in
and it's just coming back in. I don't know. But anyways,
(11:23):
after we cleared up everything and we pulled up all
the floor, then it was like, you know what, I
have to disassemble the podcast area, which is just boxes
and boxes of like Keith's dumb toys. But that part
took as long basically as any other cleanup. I'm just
like taking all the shelves down and get it out.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So anyways, man, moving out West. I've been out of
the basement game for a long time. But my little brother,
I mean back in Virginia. He anytime they get a
big rain, man.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I mean, the basement game is sweet, which is awesome
when the the the every other week tornado watch occurs,
so like that's what the base is. Four. But uh yeah,
we got some water, so I don't know what the
situation is as far as the repairs. We got a
lot of contractors talking to them. We're taking some bids.
We're gonna polish some concrete. Maybe I don't know anyways,
(12:14):
But all that being said, apologies for no no episode
in the last also apologiative. Here's a real apology. Our
last show that we did three weeks ago, we talked
about the the way that teams and a lot of
sports kind of don't go for the win. They sort
(12:38):
of like delay losing a lot of times. And I
I thought of myself as being enlightened when it came
to this sort of like risk mitigation where I'm like, no,
don't go for the quick too, you need a three
pointer here or the game's over. And we see these
examples in we talked about in football a lot of
times teams going for you know, the extra point is
(13:00):
supposed to going for two or going for fourth down,
Like no, no, no, you're just delaying losing. You need to
go for the win. Well, I thought I understood this.
I thought I was enlightened about the ways of analytics.
I found out I was wrong because there was a
play on Wednesday Night Dave where I was appalled by
what I saw. I'm talking about Tyler hero in a
(13:23):
game where he's down by five. This game actually meants
something a little bit we had, we had heat and
the exciting bulls playing each other. It was a five
point game. Tyler Hero gets a steal, has a breakaway
layup with about thirty five seconds left and says, no,
thank you, I don't want an uncontested, wide open layup
(13:47):
to make this a one score game. With thirty five
seconds left, he said, I'm gonna pull up for a
three pointer. He missed the three pointer. Bulls got the
ball make a three point or the other in ballgame,
and I'm like, how are you passing up a wide
open layup? Well? I was put in my place by
actually being shown the math for this. Well, first of all, Dave,
(14:09):
what were you already enlightened? You were like, this is
the right play, let's let's pay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, you're like, because if you're down five with thirty
two seconds to go, you needed a three thirty two
seconds before, right, like you need the three because it's
actually it's it's a two and a half possession game.
It's not like a two possession game.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. So this is the kind of thing where I
feel like, even when you hear it, you might a
person out there might still disagree, And that's fine. I'm
not trying to convince you, because again my initial reaction
was I don't care, just go get the layup. Then
maybe you force a turnover. But here's here, I'm gonna
lay out the actual math that helped me to try
(14:47):
to figure out, or to understand or actually come around
on the fact that, you know what, Tyler Hero was right.
I don't know if Tyler Hill was thinking this like
Tyler Harrow might just have been, well, I'm gonna shoot
three just for fun. But but the argument for why
he's right, and these are stats provided by Mike Buoie
I guess I'm not sure I say his last name,
the guy who does the end predict site. But here
(15:08):
are win probability numbers for a team trailing with thirty
seven seconds left. If you're down by five points, you
have a zero point seven percent chance of winning, so
less than one in one hundred. If you're down by three, hey,
you got a five percent chance. If you're down by two,
you have an eleven percent chance. So what the math
(15:29):
is if you assume, he says, if you assume the
layup is just guaranteed one hundred percent, you get two points.
Tyler Hero turned down the opportunity to have a five
percent chance of to win, to take a risk at
having an eleven percent chance of the win, And the
math says for this to be the correct call, you
have to make that three pointer forty one percent of
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the time. Tyler Herro is a thirty eight percent three
point shooter in his career and was also uncontested and
wide open also, so they could have gotten the offensive
rebound on the missed three pointer, meaning the math says
this was a slam dunk decision for Tyler Herroll because again.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well also two for one, so not just the rebound,
but two for one thirty seven seconds, right, Like you
guarantee that you're gonna get a final possession where you
have time to run a play. Yeah, that was a
no brainer, Keith.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So so, just looking back on last episode right where
I decried the cowardly coaches going for quick twos and
just delaying losing, we had a real world example of
you know what, Tyler here was playing to win the game.
If he makes the shot, that is their best chance.
And my initial reaction was just being appalled at how
(16:42):
Steph Curry had ruined basketball like pulling up for but
it was the right play I got.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I got benched in high school for pulling up for
three on a fast break. Well, I mean it was
the nineties though now, well we're a little bit more
enlightened now.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Game in score situation, Dave, I was first quarter. Yeah,
so that's that's the wrong thing. The math, that's the
wrong play. That's the that's the wrong play. Go get
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I had thirteen points in the first six minutes. I
was like, oh man, I got I'm wide open.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I gotta take again. If we fall, if we follow
the math, every pickup basketball game will be ruined forever.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no, and wants that anyways. That's that's my apology.
Let's actually, let's take a break and then we'll come
back with a stick and Egg's best thing. I'm gonna
say the best thing you can say? What you saw
to Dave in the last I don't know, one, two,
three weeks. We'll do that wrong short break, all right, Dave,
(17:41):
steak and egg? Best thing? What's I mean? You said
the games have been good. What's the best thing you
saw in the last However a long amount of time
you want to do?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, I mean this is kind of it's going to
sound the opposite. How about the Russell Westbrook meltdown against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I mean, did it not lead to Mike Malone be.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I had what an epic just awful thirteen seconds? This is.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I agree with you, but I need to check
the in predict math to find out you're time. So
this is the game if you remember, I think most
people remember, Yeah he got he had the breakaway lay
up where they were where they're up by one, and
it would have put him up by three.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think the math says maybe trying to dribble out
a little bit more clock I supposed to even taking
the layup in the first place, but he misses the
open lamp.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right by the way. That game was on April Fool's Day.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, he doing a bit. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It was definitely a bit. You know. I say this,
I think the dunk to put you up three, what
you're opening up for there is them pulling because it
was a fast break right, so they can pull the
ball out and get running and have time to get
a three to tie.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I actually think you've got you got to dribble it
out and hopefully get it to your best free throw shooter,
because you want to slow that process down, you know,
and obviously the over correction like this is my one
of my least favorite things as a coach, is if
you double down on a mistake. Like mistakes happen, right,
Everybody makes mistakes constantly, especially playing a sport, because you
(19:22):
know you're so read and react. But if you do
something like you miss a layup and then you turn
around and you foul, right, that to me is it's
just egregious. But to do it in that instance, I mean,
like he has to know better. But it was just
it was like watching I'm not gonna be a guy
(19:43):
who's like, oh I knew it was gonna happen. Yeah,
But it felt like as soon as he was going
for that layup, I was like, oh, no, he's gonna miss.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah. I don't that's weird. No, I mean I wouldn't
have expected him to miss that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I just felt it. But then the foul at the end,
I mean, I will give here's the only excuse I'll
give Russell Westbrook. If that play occurred like fifteen years ago,
that's not a foul. If that.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I don't think it should have been.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If that play occurred in a pick up basketball game,
that's not a foul.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
If that play occurred in the NCAA tournament, that's not
a foul. Oh. By the way, dude, do we need
to talk at all about NCAA tournament? How what's your
what's your Cooper Flag situation? Uh? I watched some basketball games,
some college basketball games. I lived in ignorance of what
the rules were as far as what could be. All
(20:33):
I know is, if you're watching this game, they're going
to review everything in the final few in the final
few seconds, much like there was a game ending foul
call on this Russell Westbrook play. There was a really
big foul call on Cooper Flag in that uh final
four loss seemed.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
To be I turned. I turned the Duke Houston game
off with two minutes to ago, with Duke up sixty
four to fifty five. I was like, Oh, that's a rap.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You're uh, you're all seeing, all knowing powers. That helps you.
For Russell westbik Smith's lamp did not help you in
that game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They did not help me, because how do you blow
that in college? Right? Like, it's not like you're dealing with.
These are not lights out shooters. These are not people
who I mean sometimes these guys don't look like they
can really play basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Then you watched the did you watch the championship game
at all where Houston where like, I mean, I loved
that it was like a rugby match. I mean, I
love how I love how violent Houston was, and I
wanted Houston to win badly. Just yeah, randomly, I decided
that was the team I was cheering for in these
final fours, and uh, watching them struggle to play basketball
in the final tendants of the game where it's like
they they had no they had no plan for anything,
(21:47):
and like they were going one on three every single time.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It was hard to not get a shot off. Oh,
it's a tough way to.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Go out, but they were down to.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The thing is I didn't understand you know, you're down
to and you kept hunting a threat and to me,
I don't know why you're not running a play to
get yourself into the basket.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Or every time there were two help defenders and they
had no they were like, oh, it's one on three?
What am I am? I supposed to predive?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You got to run an action for an early three.
Hope you get the rebound. I mean it was just
I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of good
coaches in college and I mean this is a you know,
you lose sometimes, but that that was awful.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Here's my sakend Eggs best thing unrelated to college basketball.
My favorite thing I saw. The funniest thing I saw
was Jomarant throwing a grenade into the stands Charlotte Hornet's game.
This was easily the funniest thing Joamorant's ever done. Like
(22:47):
Jamarant not known for his humor, at least to me.
Maybe he's hysterical in real life, and I never see it.
I think you could fairly call him moody at times
or temperamental, and and he frankly hasn't been having that
much fun it seems like playing basketball for years now.
And then, of course he got in trouble. He only
(23:07):
got in trouble because Draymond Green complained about his gun
celebration that he'd been doing all year and even calling
it a gun celebration. As someone like myself who's very
anti gun, the three point celebrations of the NBA do
not bother me. Bothered me a finger gun. Has never
anybody a finger gun? I mean, frankly, I'm not gonna
(23:30):
be I'm not gonna be ignorant and say you can't
do a finger gun menacingly. But but what these players
are doing, it's cartoonish fun right. Anyways, the league said,
how you gotta stop doing it. He did it again
in the game against the Heat where he got a
game winner. He got fine for it, and we're like, oh,
jamarants immature. He's gotta he's gotta not do these celebrations. Yeah,
(23:56):
so his employer told you not to. So what whereever
you come down on that, I don't care. That's fine
for him to then mimic throwing a grenade in his
next game was the funniest thing I've seen on a
basketball court in a very long time. The fact that
he made it so cartoonish and absurd and said, look,
(24:18):
this is not real. He he pulled the pin out
with his teeth. He then covered his ears with his hands.
It was so funny, And again.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I bothered it with the binoculars. It was so good.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I've never I've never thought of Jamran as being like,
laugh out loud funny and it killed me and for me,
that's the playful joy I want for my Ja Moran. Yeah,
and it seemed, as far as we know, the NBA
hasn't done anything.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'll tell you right now, if a Nike get on
the ad campaign, oh let.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Me do it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I like, honestly, that's the sort of stuff that could
flip the public opinion on joh which was so funny,
you know what I mean, Because it's so funny and
it's also self aware, right, like it is extremely self aware,
but but biting at the NBA, like, hey, this is
all supposed to be fun and sillily, why what are
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we doing here?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Speaking of speaking of self aware, wasn't self aware of
the Mavericks to do the thing t shirts for the return?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Gosh, man, there's been so much Look the tribute video.
I just these guys like Luca, I don't I think
you gotta you gotta do that, like and I don't know,
maybe do it in the middle of the of the game.
I mean doing it before the game. I just feel
like they like it was like charging up a bowl, right,
(25:39):
like you're waving a red flag and like watch this
guy cry, do you do you know? The scariest person
in the world, someone like you were about to fight
and then they cry or something, you know what I mean, Like,
why are you doing this to this guy who's already
a killer?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, just a bizarre situation. I'll go with once again,
thoughts and prayers to all Mavericks fans. I can't imagine
what that franchise is doing. We've talked about it until
everyone talked about it a ton. Yeah, it remains inexplicable.
It was inexplicable the moment happened watching him score forty
five points.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Has anyone ever ever dealt with this level of outside
pressure to lose their job? Their presidents? Yeah, who have
done things that you don't hear this much. It was
it was. I don't know, We're getting to the uncomfortable
(26:35):
stage of the fighting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think the Supreme Court should rule that NBA team
gms and presidents can't be held accountable for their actions
that they do while NBA immunity. Yeah, the immunity. Yeah,
Like I mean, it seems it seems obvious that they
should have Like, there's no way you can stick with
this guy. But I don't know. Let's move on. Actually,
(26:57):
I want to go to Michael Malone. You talked about
Russell Westbrook and his in game bungles. Josh Kronki has
been out and about explaining his decision. He also named himself,
acting like he's replaced Kevin Booth. Kronky just named himself coach.
This is what we need the billionaire fail suns to do.
(27:19):
Like uh, Our friend Kelly Dwyer wrote a great piece
over on his substack, just criticizing Kronky and the ridiculous
nature of the Nuggets and how they have been cheap
while having Nick Nikola Jokic and now have fired Mike
Bloone with three games to go and be able to
be that boost they need. But a shocking bit of business.
(27:40):
But don't worry, Cronky's in charge. What I mean, is
there any way? Is there any way? It doesn't matter,
like maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe is player coach and
it doesn't matter if if Mike Malone is there.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, I think you need somebody pushing buttons, especially
in the playoffs. David Adamans it seems to be a
good coach. He's like on a lot of the he's
the next guy to get a chance on a young team.
Kind of coach. I just this sort of upheaval at
this point in the season tells me that the locker
room isn't really together either, And I just don't know
(28:16):
how you win, especially in a playoff series. You know,
it's one thing when they're traveling a lot right now,
but you get into a playoff series and now, yeah,
you're traveling a lot, but it's not the same. You know,
there's a lot of downtime, and if you don't have
any kind of camaraderie, the chemistry on the court, like
we see it some nights and we don't see it
the others, right, Well, I mean that's the thing that's
(28:38):
that's killed him is I think they're just not connected.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, I mean that's what That's what Josh Cronky said.
They're not playing with a lot of joy out there.
How about I fire the coach in the GM and
maybe you guys can play a little bit more intensely.
Have you guys got fun out there? I just fired
these guys.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's like, yeah, well, you know, people always respond to
the threat of punishment, you know what I mean in
a positive way. I'll just say that the truth is,
like this is kind of it for this team. The
Bucks ran into a similar problem, right, you know, hopefully
when Denver makes a trade for an All Star, it's
(29:14):
not someone who's over the hill, you know, this summer,
because that's the move.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I still think the Nuggets, before this recent slump that
has all occurred without Jamal Murray, right, they were I
think the most common pick for who would make the
conference finals. I think everyone's like the thunder and then
the team I trust probably the second most. I think
the majority opinion was that it was the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I have kind of a hot take. It was not
even maybe it's not a hot take. I have a thought, yeah, okay,
if Jamal Murray comes back and he's healthy, Yeah, and
now you know Jalen Pickett really works, Yeah yeah, right right.
This gives you the opportunity to juice your team a
little bit in a way that it would not if
you had Michael Malone, because like last night, Russ played
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seventeen minutes. Oh yeah, it's gonna get down into single
digits by when we get to the playoffs, and that
would not happen if Michael Malone was there. In some
ways they have I think, you know, just it's a
little bit of addition by subtraction and it, but it
all hinges on. Jamal Murray's got to be healthy, Michael
Porter Junior's got to, you know, wake up and uh
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and and then if Pickett can give them stuff off
the bench, that's that's a huge boost for them. A
guy who can play two ways and can shoot. They've
been missing that, So, you know, I kind of the
thing is, I actually understand the the this battle of
vision between the front office and Michael Malone. I get it.
But the front office, I think, well, but they given that,
(30:52):
given that, I know, but given that you're cheap right,
Saying hey, we need these guys to be ready in
the playoffs is to me a reasonable ask of a
front office.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know, I don't know, Dave. We did our
steak and eggs. Best things. What's your cream of wheat?
Worst thing you got? The worst thing? I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I think, I mean the fire Nico chants are getting uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now. It's just love.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't like it. Oh, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Love, I have this. It is Listen, it's not even embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
There's something.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Do you want them to riot? No, they have to
have some outlet. I know you gotta have some outlet.
I think fire Nico chants are your best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And do you think we've hit Pete fire Nico, Like
now that he's come back, he've hit the forty five? No,
you think that weird? You're gonna get It's.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Gonna happen at every Dallas Sporting It's gonna happen in
Cowboys games anytime you're bored.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So you think he's gonna make it through the summer.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't know what what what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Kevin Durant, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
My worst thing is it might be uh would be
the Phoenix Suns. It might be that I abandoned It
might be that I abandoned my corner, calling Devin Booker
just an overall losing player, like I think if I
had held that firm, even even through a sixty four
win season, even through them making the finals, people would
(32:20):
be like, Hey, you're unreasonable, man, He's clearly he's clearly
the best shooting guard in the NBA. You're nuts. If
I held firm, I could be doing victory laps right now,
but I can't. Dave, They've lost eight straight games by
double digits. Do you know how rare that is. This
is a team fighting for its life. This is a
(32:40):
team trying to make the play in and in the
midst of fighting for their season, they lost eight straight
games by double digits. Only the Wizards have matched that
this year.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
How did my Buddenholzer not get fired?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You can't? You gotta you gotta quick at some point. Yeah,
I would it if you weren't. I mean, it's probably
a good thing. It's like, it's a it's a competitive
move to allow owners to fire your coach as much
as you want, because you're like, hey, man, if you
want to pay the bill, knock yourself out, all right.
But also part of me wants to be like, you
know how like in some fantasy basketball leagues, like if
you make three waiver moves a week or something, it'd
(33:18):
be funny if you weren't allowed to fire, like you
could only fire your coach like three times in a
five year span or something like you just but I mean,
are they gonna fire up? Here's he was horrible.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The thing is what you've got to think about now
if you're Phoenix. Yeah, and now Memphis has to think
about this. The Spurs and the Nuggets are going to
be looking for coaches. Oh yeah, you are way down
the total pole, you know, like respectfully, and I would
say Memphis. I would rather go there than than Phoenix,
especially you know, given the track record of Link the
(33:50):
time that the coaches have been there, although Phoenix more
likely to overpay somebody who you heard of before.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What's Scott Brooks up to Scotty Books?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Is he not with He's an assistant somewhere with the Lakers.
I keep saying that the Nuggets should photocoll into Nate McMillan.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I saw someone on social media say the Kings need
to fire Doug Christie so they can hire Mike Brown.
Then fire Mike Brown again. Now there apparently there's gonna
be a big coaching Kearrosel this offseason. Yeah. But like
the Suns, I can't get over. Yes, Kevin Durant has
not played the last five games or whatever, he's not
eligible for your all the NBA teams joining the list
(34:28):
of other players who didn't hit the sixty five game mark.
I can't get over the Suns who are playing there.
They're all they were playing for was to try to
make the play in because they have no draft pick.
They they're out of that, they're out of everything. Nightmare situation.
But yeah, maybe maybe it should be a will turn around.
Like I can't get over losing so significantly when you
(34:50):
have again. He tricked me, Devin Booker tricked me into
into into thinking, oh, he's actually amazing. He's one of
the best players.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In the We spent dude, we spent so much time.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Tias Jones least improved player. Well we got Paul. We
got Paul George.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Biggest drop off for Tyas.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Jones DeAndre anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, I feel like Paul George gets the Okay, well
he's old. This is kind of what we expected Tyas Jones.
I like, it feels like he might lose the internet right,
like he was the big, the big pickup, everybody's favorite signing.
Oh he this completes the puzzle. And now I mean
it's like Monte Morris.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean in Montay Morris is there and had
a bad year. Also, speaking of a DeAndre and the Blazers,
the Blazers picked up a huge loss, an important loss.
Somehow they found a way to lose against the Jazz,
who won that game in overtime. The Jazz now tied
with the Wizards. Sense the Boss Show said the Bucking Hoop.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He can shoot, man, like I was, that guy can score, period.
If he's only going to play in the G League,
he could lead the G League and score.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was watching Sensible and also Doug McDermott bury three
pointers and I'm like, why are these guys on a
good team? No, the Trailblazers. I thought that we need
to acknowledge in our last episode of the regular season,
Jeremy Grant has not played a game in April. He
did it again. He has not played a game in
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April since twenty twenty one. So that's four straight seasons
of not playing in April. In twenty twenty one, he
only played in April because it wasn't the last month
of the season that year, because this was post COVID
right the season ended in May. He missed eight of
(36:50):
nine games in May. This guy, since he was on
the Nuggets, since he was on the Nuggets in the
bubble lost to the Lakes in the playoffs. Since then,
that man, he's the guy. He's the guy leaving work
on Friday at two pm. And he's done it. He's
(37:10):
done it. He's successfully not played a game in April
for basically five years. He's missed the last month of
the season five straight seasons. Incredible work, perfect Proud of
that guy. Let's answer a listener submitted question. Dave, this
is the croissant question.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Are any questions?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yes? Are you going to finish that quass?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Knock yourself out?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Caleb McNeice asks, this is a good one, Dave. This
this is a geopolitical question in the NBA. Should there
be tariffs on labor for foreign players and should they
count against the salary cap? Tariffs are for goods, So
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in America first position for NBA players, I would say.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know what you have like in Europe, you know
you're only allowed to have two Americans. This is where
you run into situations like Shane Larkin becoming a naturalized
Turkish citizen and he plays not only on the national team,
but he also doesn't take up one of the foreign
player spots you know in the Turkish league there, so uh,
(38:35):
they they kind of gained the system that way where they,
you know, are our europe first, or at least non
American first. A lot of leagues have rules on that
because if you think about it, you're produce so many
basketball players. We would just come and dominate all the leagues.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
That's why you to not Watson. Abby was such a
big signing.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, and so like you know, when you look at
what is it, a quarter of the league now is
foreign born?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Every team can only have one Slovenian.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Now you I mean they're you know that would that
would actually distribute the talent a little.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That Nico Harrison is like, listen, Slovenian spot.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
What if you did something that was more like pro
wrestling regional territories and you say, okay, so the Pacific teams,
you guys, you can only get players. This is Asia Pacific, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
This is the territorial rights of the early Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And so then you could wind up maybe like Chicago
gets special rights to the Balkans, right, I honestly, like,
I think the coolest thing that could possibly happen. And
I hate I would hate this for Denver, but uh,
you know what if like Jokic and and Luca just
decide we're going to team up in Chicago because it's
the you know, most populous outside.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You handled that question pretty well. Let's do one more
unother controversial question.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
But wait, so what if it costs more to have
a foreign more player.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Like yeah, because you got to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, what if this, you know,
like you had to account for currency valuations for them
and you had to pay them, so these guys would
get paid maybe in euros or you know, pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
The dollars tanking, Dave, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm getting at right, all of
a sudden, having Nikola Jokics not the best you know for.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Your your magnus. The question master wants to know should
the MAVs be relocated to Seattle?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
No? No, I mean, like, where are we on this conspiracy?
Don't know, the MAVs to Vegas? Keith, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I feel like I feel like they should somehow move
Nico Harrison in the Dumonts to Seattle, Like yeah, yeah,
like the Mavericks fans should get some kind of separation
from these people who have them in the back and
ruin their franchise.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, this goes back to like the Green Bay Packers model,
where the community owns it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Oh yeah, that's how instead.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Of selling it as an asset. This is the thing
where and to praise the Lakers just a little bit.
It's their business, right. The family owns that team and
they run that as their business and so and it
shows with the way that that they treat their players
and treat the team, and you know, you would never
ever have to worry about the Lakers doing something like
(41:31):
this ever.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the questions everybody. If you
want your question to be answered on there, you gotta
be a Patreon supporter to that at patreon dot com.
Slash Fast break Breakfast. Also, congratulations to our bracket winners
for the men's and women's tournament. Bobby Peyton won the
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men's bracket.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
You got some win percentages on these.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Bobby Peters won the men's bracket for the second straight year.
We're talking about there's like fifty something people in this bracket.
Is he a ringer in this pool?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Is he cheating?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I don't know, very give us sports.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
It could be that situation.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Also going back in time to just cheat at my
my n C double a bracket for a podcast, so
deviously someone would ever suspect.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Also, congrats to Mike Gibbons for winning the women's bracket.
So I'll be reaching out to you. Guys. Are going
to send you a prize pack with a very fancy
T shirt that was saved from floodwaters. It was it
was sealed in an air tight container. We lifted out
of there before the water hit.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Do you have any takes on Gibbons?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No, I don't anyways, Thanks everybody, Patre dot com slash
Fast break Breakfast. All right, Dave, It's now time for
the awards segment of the program. In the International Stackhouse
of Pancakes, awards given each week to the worst performance
in a box score. We haven't given out an award
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in three weeks. I was terrified that there'd just be
way too many names to pick through, too many nominees
to figure out. But luckily we have three I feel
like clear guys who separated themselves over the last three weeks.
We do have a lot of honorable mentions. Here are
(43:31):
some honorable mentions. Jordan Poole, Kelden Johnson, Precious to Chua,
Ricky Council the fourth and Spencer Dinwitty all went win
for eleven. Malik Monk, Fred van Vliet, Nick Smith Junior
all had two for fourteen games, and then Miles Bridges
gave us a four for twenty and Shay had a
seven for twenty nine. Those are just honorable mentions. Are
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three nominees over the last three weeks. I mean I
literally thought, Dave, we might have to do like three awards,
there'd be so many. Now this is good. We got
this one guy to win over the last three weeks.
Our nominees as they occurred, chronologically. Desmond Bain in a
loss to the Thunder was one for twelve, had three points,
(44:13):
six assists, two rebounds, one steal, three turnovers, three personal fouls.
Was a minus thirty plus minus in that one. Donovan
Mitchell in a loss to the Sons, That guy lost
to the Sons. You know how hard that is. Donovan
Mitchell in a loss to the Sons was two for eighteen,
seven points, four rebounds, three assists, two steals, zero turnovers,
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zero personal fouls. Perhaps try and then Alex Sar in
a loss to the Heat was three for seventeen. These
are Summer League throwback numbers from Alex Sar three for seventeen,
eight points, three rebounds, three assists, one steal, two blocks,
two turnovers, five personal fouls. So Dave we're picking between
Desmond Bain one for twelve three points, six assists, Donovan
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Mitchell two for eighteen seven points, three assists, Alex Sar
three for seventeen points, two blocks, Donovan Mitchell's gotta be
Donald Mitchell, right, do Yeah? In a competitive basketball game, I.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Keep throwing Donovan Mitchell under the bus when I'm talking
about how Shane Gildess Alexander is the MVP. Oh yeah,
you'll love it. Yeah, right, yeah, best player on the
best team is a great argument. Yeah, And it's not
like Shae is putting up Donovan Mitchell numbers, right, Like
Shaye's putting up MVP numbers and he's on the best team. Yes,
if somebody was trying to make the case for Donovan Mitchell,
(45:34):
I'd be like, uh no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Look, he's he's putting up Desmond Bay numbers on right.
Maybe the best team second best, Yeah, by record. Congratulations
to Donovan Mitchell winning this week's International Sack House of
Pancakes Award. Alex Sar, he's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I like Alex Sar. Look if they get Cooper flag,
the Wizards are instantly going to have some stuff happening
because people have a little bit forgotten that ballall kool
of Bali is so good, especially defensively. I think Sar
defensively shows a liar.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
What does Koola Bali project to you? New topic, New show, Dave,
What is it like? What are we talking? What's a
ceiling here?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Paul George?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
You think Paul George.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
No, no, no, no no. I mean and it's different, right,
because he's a little bit more herky jerkie. Paul George
was so smooth. This is why all these young guys
really like Paul George, because like aesthetically, it's a little
bit of the Kobe, or not the Kobe, but the
Kyrie thing. It's just beautiful to watch Paul George when.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
He's doing second second Wizard's question. Yeah, this is Wizard's corner.
Would you trade Bob Carrington for Denny Avdia, Yes, because
Apia right, he's putting up Donovan Mitchell numbers slash Shay
Denny Avdya's uh March and April run giddy esque with
(47:05):
the unbelievable stats of the last month. And of course,
I mean Joe Cronin got an extension. People were calling
for Joe Cronin's head. It felt like throughout the Damian
Lillard was that just Heat fans, It was.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Miamy Heat fans. That was honestly. They they were doing
fire cronine, like the fire Nico thing.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, it's okay. They have a different team. Does it
for your ge?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
They want?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, they want have a police escort when he walks
into the Rose Garden.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Heat media wanted an NBA investigation into why he wouldn't
trade Damian Lillard to the Heat.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
I still want an investigation into why the league didn't
stop the Luca trade. Do they have they have no
mechanisms for they have no mechanisms for being like, you're
destroying your franchise. You're devaluing our franchise. The bylaws say
we don't allow you to do that. I mean, I'm
just throwing stuff out. I don't know. I was buwn
away Dave. I think we did it. I think it's
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all we have time for Alex Sar Does he go
number one in a redraft? Still Reese's shay. Both of
those guys are like good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Honestly, I mean, Stephan Castle would be up there, right.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I guess I think so. I felt like this is interesting.
I don't know. This is like a this is like
a Ringer episode. Now the uh. At the start of
last year's draft, obviously I was keeping track of it
because the griss has had a top ten pick and
I'm listening to all this stuff that it's just like
it's like project project, project, risky, project, I got risky.
That guy's risky. Safest pick might be a Red Shepherd,
(48:38):
might be Rob Dillingham. And now it's like, are dialing
him and Shepherds still projects. But meanwhile the projects in
sar In Reese's shall they look great?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, I would after seeing them play for a year. Absolutely.
The knock on on not so much what's the knock.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well, the knock on these guys coming in was all right,
there's no like number one or whatever. Okay, it's a
league that you know, there's five guys on the court.
I think like Reese's Shay, he may not be have
the most juice like off the dribble, but man, he
finishes play as well. I think he's a good connector. Uh.
He's obviously long and he fits in when Jalen Johnson
is there next year, I actually think I mean, the
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Hawks were so fun until you know the injury.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I mean they are I mean I would feel I
mean I was happy they won the lottery just because
they they strove, they with their last ounce of courage.
They dream the impossible dream and they're like, well, we're
gonna keep trying to win, and then they jumped up
in the lottery. I hope it's what happens this year.
I hope some team. Hope is I hope the troilp
players win Cooper Flag, Like I want someone who played
(49:39):
it out to win the lottery. But like, yeah, with
Dyson Daniels, who you know, is setting steel records that
we haven't seen before because we us to keep track
of steels. But like the numbers he's putting up. And
then when you get Jill and Johnson back and then
Trey plus Reesa's Sha, they got a really fun team.
Here's how I want to end the show. Dave a
(49:59):
reverse kudos to me A negative. I got this wrong,
I got I got I got two small things. One.
I felt like I was trying to do a zag
against the normal podcaster takes this off season about Naji Marshall,
m I'm like everyone, it just feels like I was
supposed to say that guy's really good even though he
wasn't playing that much for the Pelicans, and everyone's like, oh,
(50:20):
you know, it's a great signing. You know, you know
what Nico Harrison hit out of the park signing Naji Marshall.
And I'm like, you know, here's my podcast. I'm a
zag against all my rest of my podcasters. Are we
sure he's good?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
He's been like really good And I'm like, man, he'd
be great on all Why didn't all these teams sign him?
It seemed obvious, like why do you sign it for
nine million dollars? So I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I mean, like, how would he work on the wing
in Memphis? Be amazing for nine million years? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Amazing? And now we don't have Jalen Wells because he
was murdered by kJ Simpson guy horrible dirty play. Yeah, anyways,
I feel bad about that. Also, I was preparing another
podcaster take about the about Luca's ejection where Lukey got
ejected because he was trash talk on a fan. I
was ready to push back, defend my referee brother and
be like, I don't believe him. Luca yells at the
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refs all the time. I don't believe this. Oh, it's
the guy behind you. It's the guy behind you. I
don't believe you, Luca. That was That's where I was.
I was prepping that take, and then the league riscinds
the technical like immediately.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
The guy they we got a quote from the guy
in the in the stands about playing the game within
the game fairly. He's good buddies with Andrew Schleck.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
So yeah, so you know, yeah, it was it was
jt Or messed up the NBA referee. Uh, should not
have ejected Luca in a very close game.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Shouldn't have ejected Luca anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, when we get when we get your uh regardless,
you think when we have Dave Defour's Combat Basketball League
sponsored by Bill and Beer, where there's no ejections.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Okay, no, there would be ejections. I'm not into Basketball
is not a contact sport. It's a physical sport, right,
so contact is fine. I just think, man, these refs,
there's a point where you just put your earmuffs on.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I gotcha. Anyways, thanks everybody for hanging out with us.
Dave pleasure as always. If you want more from us,
come join in the slack channel over at Patreon dot com,
slash fast, break breakfast anyways, you guys are the best.
Thanks for listening. Remember breakfast is the most important thing.
All right, and welcome to Fast Break Breakfast NBA podcast.
My name is Keith Parish and I'm here once again
with my buddy, through the miracle of computer phone, I'm
here with Dave de four. Dave, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Fantastic? I'm good to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, you look fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I honestly, man, I'm fired up.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Basketball or I'm so good.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I mean life is good. Well, okay, well, but
day to day life is good.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
For mecoin rebounded.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't want to talk about retirement, but.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We don't retire.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I can breathe, you know, I can breathe the air
for now. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Can I tell you Dave a couple of things. One
good job by us once again matching our T shirts.
This happens an unbelievable number of times without any coordination whatsoever.
We do wear a lot of heather gray, which that's
what we're doing right now if we see this on YouTube.
But other times it could be like a burgundy, it
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could be like a heather burrow. Maybe it's just a
lot of heather. Sometimes we're just wearing our black T shirts.
Sometimes we're both wearing our black just there's no coordination.
But we're on this wavelength right now. We are like
we are like Jason Kidd and Nico Harrison, just just
on this same exact wavelength. Also, Dave, when I said
all right, welcome to FA Fast, I prey panicked because
(01:44):
it's been three weeks and I wasn't sure what the
thing was. I've done like ten Gritz and Grinds episodes
since the last Fast Break Breakfast episode of apology there
to everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The podcast switch back and forth is always tough.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is tough. It's like, wait, what's my sign off
for the one? Why do I have different signum? I
I have two separate podcasts.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
No one knows, right, I can't. When I came back, man,
my first show back, I was like, oh, I definitely hiccuped.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
How do you think Zach Clowe's I have not heard
the new Zach Lowe show.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, I am amazing, it's a different thing. I'm
amazed that people still listen to this show. Yeah, like
like ten years people listen. I've listened for ten years.
I listened to like five years of Zach Lowe. And
at some point you're like, Zach Lowe has become a
caricature of himself, and I know I have become a
caricature of myself. I think.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But Danny Green retired and it forced me to reinvent
a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You mean, oh, you can't go to the Danny.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
My Danny Green bit died.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And you know, I know your new bit is just
your Tobias Harris's your Harrison Barnes, Big Harrison Barnes day.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
How about Harrison Barnes. My favorite part about the I mean,
I don't want to jump the gun.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shut the gun.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
My favorite part about the Harrison Barnes game winner was
that he that he put Draymond on the free throw line.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, right before he felled for no reason. Draymond was
twenty seven feet away from the basket with like four
seconds left. Here Harrison March with a two point lead,
is like, you know what I want to do. I
want to hit an awesome game winner. Here. I'm gonna
foul you. I'm gonna foul I think.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Draymond's gonna shoot bricks. I know I get the rebound.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I don't know. So that happened after I fell asleep.
I woke up this morning to the thrilling news as
a Grizzlies fan that the Warriors had dropped the game.
And then I go back and watch it because I
want to see how uh you know? Colenna Azabookie responds
on the broadcast. So I go back and watch the
Warriors broadcast to see the end, and I can't believe
how the final minutes go, Like Kelton Johnson's posting up,
(03:55):
Draymond hooping all over him. There's so much of no
no calls as Draymond wax him. But then Harrison Barnes fouls.
To me, it looked like he fouled on purpose. To me,
it looked like he didn't understand the situation. He's like, oh,
I have a foul to give with three seconds left,
Let's make him inbound it again. But anyways, he doesn't.
Draymond hits both free throws. Then on the game winner.
(04:16):
Wasn't Jimmy Butler trying to foul? It looked like Jimmy
Butler tried to foul on the catch.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Because because they had one to give, everyone to.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Give, as far as I could tell, and it looked
like he like he shoves Harrison Barnes when he catches
the pass, and I maybe the last team report, which
comes out in like an hour, maybe it's gonna say
that was a miscall fouled on purpose. But then Harrison, Yeah, Drills,
I think.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They just know. I think also you got Draymond and
you got Jimmy Butler, and they know they're gonna get
away with a lot in that circumstance. Like nobody's calling
those reps. They don't want to call that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The Spurs in that game, Dave. They were playing all
their best players down the stretch in a game in April.
Is that even allowed.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes revenge games?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, Chris Paul was cheering, but like I mean, they
had you know, Steph Cass out there making awesome passes
to Kelton Johnson. They they were even though they were
eliminated from the playoffs and the play in they were
trying to win the game in April. This is stunning behavior, amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So without even having Quentin Grimes out there.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, anyway, I don't know, that's a look.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That was a fun game. I honestly, the games have
just been so much fun and super COMPETI some of
the games Okay, okay, we're not watching. We're not watching
the bad games anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
This is you're not watching. You're not watching. Just in
a champagnee rack up awesome stats because I.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We had what it was at Wizards and Sixers on
the same day as Raptors Hornets. Yeah, both all so
both of those games featured uh the wins were less
than fifty for both teams combined in those in those.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Games, you're not watching? Wait?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Who who did they not watch those games?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wait? Who did the triple double on the Raptors last night?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
There was a there was a triple Yeah, Mago, I
can't watch it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Mago had a triple double? You were watching that. Jeff
Dowden had a thirty piece on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Definitely not No, no, I leave that to other people.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm having a dave. I'm having a hard time. I'm
having a hard time balancing this Zach Edy breakout. They
fired they you know, they fired Taylor Jenkins all a sudden.
Zach Edy is getting twenty boards every game, and I'm like, yeah,
but Jordan Goodwin had to twenty three rebound game for
the Grizzlies last April. How is Zach Edy's twenty one
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rebound game, and I know the Grizzlies have to win,
but when you're playing the Hornets and they're on a
thirteen game losing streak, I'm having trouble balancing the stats.
I'm also having trouble figuring out which games are real
which games are not real, because obviously you have some games.
You have these huge games like and of course the
Luca Dnca return game to Dallas. You had the Lakers
(07:04):
game against the Thunder, like Lakers are game playing games
to win, and then some nights the teams aren't playing
to win, and so it's hard to figure out like
are the are the Thunder or Cavaliers struggling? Slash just
no one cares anymore? Like you, you did your thing,
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't know. I see the Calves are funny. I
actually think the Calves in March struggled. I think whatever
does it matter is different. I don't I don't think
it matters now, but I do think that there is
a blueprint for beating them, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I'm also looking at the Thunder and their performance against
the other best teams, and you're like, it's kind of mediocre.
But then does it even matter when you're when you're
ten games ahead the whole season, does any mean we.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Look, man, we know it turns into a different sport
next week. Yeah, that's the thing. And I so when
I'm thinking about like what the Thunder did this regular
season and the weaknesses that they have, I think a
lot about what it's going to look like in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, let's get to that. Maybe we'll come back to
that in a second. Let's hit her, let's hitt our breakfast,
and then let's plow through maybe some some best and worst.
I don't know, I'll see what happens. Dave, did you
eat oatmeal or anything?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Of course? Okay, of course oatmeal? Dates? Uh you know
had a banana protein shape.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, so I had a little I had I had
a date in my breakfast, my breakfast. I grabbed some
kind of weird I don't want you what would you
call it? Like health like an it's the label says
r X bar. Oh right, it has all the ingredients
on it, and the ingredients are absurd. This is like
the smallest morsel I think it was point nine ounces
(08:45):
and dense, Yeah, very oh, very dense. It's took a
solid thirty seconds to chew. No, but I have the
ingredients because the ingredients were posted on the rapper, Dave,
I had half an egg, white, three almonds, one cash
you mm hmm, and one date.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Pretty good, you know, I I there's something to that, right,
four amons a day. If you had four almonds a day,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Get the one cash you mixed in there for the
cash for flavor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Flavor.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, that was my.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Walnut or something would be maybe a little bit more. Uh,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That was my breakfast, your breakfast, same as always, Dave,
Thanks for mixing it up for us. The uh after
I keep it, we moved to our breakfast in bed. Apologies.
This is my chance to make right. I've gotten wrong
on a previous episode frequently. The first time we talked
about the NBA. But we broke that seal. Speaking of
breaking the sealed day of my basement flooded last week.
(09:45):
Not great. Yeah, I don't know the next time I
will be recording with the shelves of nineteen eighties childhood
toy toys behind me.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did the toys make it?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Or they did? So? We had set up our basement
in a way where everything of value was off the ground,
just in case ground water ever got back in there.
Our little neighborhood in Nashville was in fact hit pretty
hard by some rain storms last week, and other people
(10:18):
flooded much worse than we did. We just got the
annoying level of water, which is any water. So we
got the finished basement. I mean he got a solid
like inch or so, so we had to we got
to like we got all the French out of there.
And then after we had basically been shot backing and
clearing everything out and bailing water. Also, this is like
(10:41):
it felt very uh like sisyphus sisiphian, where like we
have a we have like a we have a drain
because we have like a full sized shower. Sure that's
blow the sewer level. We have a pump that raises
up to the sewer level. And I'm like bailing water slash,
you know, shot backing at the same time. Like but
I'm two hand, I'm double fisting one hand, shot back
(11:03):
the other hand like a six yeah, And so I'm
just I'm just I'm bailing it into the drain. And
I hear the I hear the the pump pushing into
the sewer but my whole thought the whole time is like,
are the sewers overloaded? It's just all just kind of
is it just like a close is a closed circuit.
It's like a loop where I'm just dumping it in
and it's just coming back in. I don't know. But anyways,
(11:23):
after we cleared up everything and we pulled up all
the floor, then it was like, you know what, I
have to disassemble the podcast area, which is just boxes
and boxes of like Keith's dumb toys. But that part
took as long basically as any other cleanup. I'm just
like taking all the shelves down and get it out.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So anyways, man, moving out West. I've been out of
the basement game for a long time. But my little brother,
I mean back in Virginia. He anytime they get a
big rain, man.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I mean, the basement game is sweet, which is awesome
when the the the every other week tornado watch occurs,
so like that's what the base is. Four. But uh yeah,
we got some water, so I don't know what the
situation is as far as the repairs. We got a
lot of contractors talking to them. We're taking some bids.
We're gonna polish some concrete. Maybe I don't know anyways,
(12:14):
But all that being said, apologies for no no episode
in the last also apologiative. Here's a real apology. Our
last show that we did three weeks ago, we talked
about the the way that teams and a lot of
sports kind of don't go for the win. They sort
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of like delay losing a lot of times. And I
I thought of myself as being enlightened when it came
to this sort of like risk mitigation where I'm like, no,
don't go for the quick too, you need a three
pointer here or the game's over. And we see these
examples in we talked about in football a lot of
times teams going for you know, the extra point is
(13:00):
supposed to going for two or going for fourth down,
Like no, no, no, you're just delaying losing. You need to
go for the win. Well, I thought I understood this.
I thought I was enlightened about the ways of analytics.
I found out I was wrong because there was a
play on Wednesday Night Dave where I was appalled by
what I saw. I'm talking about Tyler hero in a
(13:23):
game where he's down by five. This game actually meants
something a little bit we had, we had heat and
the exciting bulls playing each other. It was a five
point game. Tyler Hero gets a steal, has a breakaway
layup with about thirty five seconds left and says, no,
thank you, I don't want an uncontested, wide open layup
(13:47):
to make this a one score game. With thirty five
seconds left, he said, I'm gonna pull up for a
three pointer. He missed the three pointer. Bulls got the
ball make a three point or the other in ballgame,
and I'm like, how are you passing up a wide
open layup? Well? I was put in my place by
actually being shown the math for this. Well, first of all, Dave,
(14:09):
what were you already enlightened? You were like, this is
the right play, let's let's pay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, you're like, because if you're down five with thirty
two seconds to go, you needed a three thirty two
seconds before, right, like you need the three because it's
actually it's it's a two and a half possession game.
It's not like a two possession game.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. So this is the kind of thing where I
feel like, even when you hear it, you might a
person out there might still disagree, And that's fine. I'm
not trying to convince you, because again my initial reaction
was I don't care, just go get the layup. Then
maybe you force a turnover. But here's here, I'm gonna
lay out the actual math that helped me to try
(14:47):
to figure out, or to understand or actually come around
on the fact that, you know what, Tyler Hero was right.
I don't know if Tyler Hill was thinking this like
Tyler Harrow might just have been, well, I'm gonna shoot
three just for fun. But but the argument for why
he's right, and these are stats provided by Mike Buoie
I guess I'm not sure I say his last name,
the guy who does the end predict site. But here
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are win probability numbers for a team trailing with thirty
seven seconds left. If you're down by five points, you
have a zero point seven percent chance of winning, so
less than one in one hundred. If you're down by three, hey,
you got a five percent chance. If you're down by two,
you have an eleven percent chance. So what the math
(15:29):
is if you assume, he says, if you assume the
layup is just guaranteed one hundred percent, you get two points.
Tyler Hero turned down the opportunity to have a five
percent chance of to win, to take a risk at
having an eleven percent chance of the win, And the
math says for this to be the correct call, you
have to make that three pointer forty one percent of
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the time. Tyler Herro is a thirty eight percent three
point shooter in his career and was also uncontested and
wide open also, so they could have gotten the offensive
rebound on the missed three pointer, meaning the math says
this was a slam dunk decision for Tyler Herroll because again.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well also two for one, so not just the rebound,
but two for one thirty seven seconds, right, Like you
guarantee that you're gonna get a final possession where you
have time to run a play. Yeah, that was a
no brainer, Keith.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So so, just looking back on last episode right where
I decried the cowardly coaches going for quick twos and
just delaying losing, we had a real world example of
you know what, Tyler here was playing to win the game.
If he makes the shot, that is their best chance.
And my initial reaction was just being appalled at how
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Steph Curry had ruined basketball like pulling up for but
it was the right play I got.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I got benched in high school for pulling up for
three on a fast break. Well, I mean it was
the nineties though now, well we're a little bit more
enlightened now.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Game in score situation, Dave, I was first quarter. Yeah,
so that's that's the wrong thing. The math, that's the
wrong play. That's the that's the wrong play. Go get
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I had thirteen points in the first six minutes. I
was like, oh man, I got I'm wide open.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I gotta take again. If we fall, if we follow
the math, every pickup basketball game will be ruined forever.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no, and wants that anyways. That's that's my apology.
Let's actually, let's take a break and then we'll come
back with a stick and Egg's best thing. I'm gonna
say the best thing you can say? What you saw
to Dave in the last I don't know, one, two,
three weeks. We'll do that wrong short break, all right, Dave,
(17:41):
steak and egg? Best thing? What's I mean? You said
the games have been good. What's the best thing you
saw in the last However a long amount of time
you want to do?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, I mean this is kind of it's going to
sound the opposite. How about the Russell Westbrook meltdown against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I mean, did it not lead to Mike Malone be.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I had what an epic just awful thirteen seconds? This is.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I agree with you, but I need to check
the in predict math to find out you're time. So
this is the game if you remember, I think most
people remember, Yeah he got he had the breakaway lay
up where they were where they're up by one, and
it would have put him up by three.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think the math says maybe trying to dribble out
a little bit more clock I supposed to even taking
the layup in the first place, but he misses the
open lamp.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right by the way. That game was on April Fool's Day.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, he doing a bit. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It was definitely a bit. You know. I say this,
I think the dunk to put you up three, what
you're opening up for there is them pulling because it
was a fast break right, so they can pull the
ball out and get running and have time to get
a three to tie.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I actually think you've got you got to dribble it
out and hopefully get it to your best free throw shooter,
because you want to slow that process down, you know,
and obviously the over correction like this is my one
of my least favorite things as a coach, is if
you double down on a mistake. Like mistakes happen, right,
Everybody makes mistakes constantly, especially playing a sport, because you
(19:22):
know you're so read and react. But if you do
something like you miss a layup and then you turn
around and you foul, right, that to me is it's
just egregious. But to do it in that instance, I mean,
like he has to know better. But it was just
it was like watching I'm not gonna be a guy
(19:43):
who's like, oh I knew it was gonna happen. Yeah,
But it felt like as soon as he was going
for that layup, I was like, oh, no, he's gonna miss.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah. I don't that's weird. No, I mean I wouldn't
have expected him to miss that.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I just felt it. But then the foul at the end,
I mean, I will give here's the only excuse I'll
give Russell Westbrook. If that play occurred like fifteen years ago,
that's not a foul. If that.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I don't think it should have been.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If that play occurred in a pick up basketball game,
that's not a foul.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
If that play occurred in the NCAA tournament, that's not
a foul. Oh. By the way, dude, do we need
to talk at all about NCAA tournament? How what's your
what's your Cooper Flag situation? Uh? I watched some basketball games,
some college basketball games. I lived in ignorance of what
the rules were as far as what could be. All
(20:33):
I know is, if you're watching this game, they're going
to review everything in the final few in the final
few seconds, much like there was a game ending foul
call on this Russell Westbrook play. There was a really
big foul call on Cooper Flag in that uh final
four loss seemed.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
To be I turned. I turned the Duke Houston game
off with two minutes to ago, with Duke up sixty
four to fifty five. I was like, Oh, that's a rap.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You're uh, you're all seeing, all knowing powers. That helps you.
For Russell westbik Smith's lamp did not help you in
that game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They did not help me, because how do you blow
that in college? Right? Like, it's not like you're dealing with.
These are not lights out shooters. These are not people
who I mean sometimes these guys don't look like they
can really play basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Then you watched the did you watch the championship game
at all where Houston where like, I mean, I loved
that it was like a rugby match. I mean, I
love how I love how violent Houston was, and I
wanted Houston to win badly. Just yeah, randomly, I decided
that was the team I was cheering for in these
final fours, and uh, watching them struggle to play basketball
in the final tendants of the game where it's like
they they had no they had no plan for anything,
(21:47):
and like they were going one on three every single time.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It was hard to not get a shot off. Oh,
it's a tough way to.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Go out, but they were down to.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The thing is I didn't understand you know, you're down
to and you kept hunting a threat and to me,
I don't know why you're not running a play to
get yourself into the basket.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Or every time there were two help defenders and they
had no they were like, oh, it's one on three?
What am I am? I supposed to predive?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You got to run an action for an early three.
Hope you get the rebound. I mean it was just
I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of good
coaches in college and I mean this is a you know,
you lose sometimes, but that that was awful.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Here's my sakend Eggs best thing unrelated to college basketball.
My favorite thing I saw. The funniest thing I saw
was Jomarant throwing a grenade into the stands Charlotte Hornet's game.
This was easily the funniest thing Joamorant's ever done. Like
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Jamarant not known for his humor, at least to me.
Maybe he's hysterical in real life, and I never see it.
I think you could fairly call him moody at times
or temperamental, and and he frankly hasn't been having that
much fun it seems like playing basketball for years now.
And then, of course he got in trouble. He only
(23:07):
got in trouble because Draymond Green complained about his gun
celebration that he'd been doing all year and even calling
it a gun celebration. As someone like myself who's very
anti gun, the three point celebrations of the NBA do
not bother me. Bothered me a finger gun. Has never
anybody a finger gun? I mean, frankly, I'm not gonna
(23:30):
be I'm not gonna be ignorant and say you can't
do a finger gun menacingly. But but what these players
are doing, it's cartoonish fun right. Anyways, the league said,
how you gotta stop doing it. He did it again
in the game against the Heat where he got a
game winner. He got fine for it, and we're like, oh,
jamarants immature. He's gotta he's gotta not do these celebrations. Yeah,
(23:56):
so his employer told you not to. So what whereever
you come down on that, I don't care. That's fine
for him to then mimic throwing a grenade in his
next game was the funniest thing I've seen on a
basketball court in a very long time. The fact that
he made it so cartoonish and absurd and said, look,
(24:18):
this is not real. He he pulled the pin out
with his teeth. He then covered his ears with his hands.
It was so funny, And again.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I bothered it with the binoculars. It was so good.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I've never I've never thought of Jamran as being like,
laugh out loud funny and it killed me and for me,
that's the playful joy I want for my Ja Moran. Yeah,
and it seemed, as far as we know, the NBA
hasn't done anything.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'll tell you right now, if a Nike get on
the ad campaign, oh let.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Me do it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I like, honestly, that's the sort of stuff that could
flip the public opinion on joh which was so funny,
you know what I mean, Because it's so funny and
it's also self aware, right, like it is extremely self aware,
but but biting at the NBA, like, hey, this is
all supposed to be fun and sillily, why what are
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we doing here?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Speaking of speaking of self aware, wasn't self aware of
the Mavericks to do the thing t shirts for the return?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Gosh, man, there's been so much Look the tribute video.
I just these guys like Luca, I don't I think
you gotta you gotta do that, like and I don't know,
maybe do it in the middle of the of the game.
I mean doing it before the game. I just feel
like they like it was like charging up a bowl, right,
(25:39):
like you're waving a red flag and like watch this
guy cry, do you do you know? The scariest person
in the world, someone like you were about to fight
and then they cry or something, you know what I mean, Like,
why are you doing this to this guy who's already
a killer?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, just a bizarre situation. I'll go with once again,
thoughts and prayers to all Mavericks fans. I can't imagine
what that franchise is doing. We've talked about it until
everyone talked about it a ton. Yeah, it remains inexplicable.
It was inexplicable the moment happened watching him score forty
five points.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Has anyone ever ever dealt with this level of outside
pressure to lose their job? Their presidents? Yeah, who have
done things that you don't hear this much. It was
it was. I don't know, We're getting to the uncomfortable
(26:35):
stage of the fighting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think the Supreme Court should rule that NBA team
gms and presidents can't be held accountable for their actions
that they do while NBA immunity. Yeah, the immunity. Yeah,
Like I mean, it seems it seems obvious that they
should have Like, there's no way you can stick with
this guy. But I don't know. Let's move on. Actually,
(26:57):
I want to go to Michael Malone. You talked about
Russell Westbrook and his in game bungles. Josh Kronki has
been out and about explaining his decision. He also named himself,
acting like he's replaced Kevin Booth. Kronky just named himself coach.
This is what we need the billionaire fail suns to do.
(27:19):
Like uh, Our friend Kelly Dwyer wrote a great piece
over on his substack, just criticizing Kronky and the ridiculous
nature of the Nuggets and how they have been cheap
while having Nick Nikola Jokic and now have fired Mike
Bloone with three games to go and be able to
be that boost they need. But a shocking bit of business.
(27:40):
But don't worry, Cronky's in charge. What I mean, is
there any way? Is there any way? It doesn't matter,
like maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe is player coach and
it doesn't matter if if Mike Malone is there.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, I think you need somebody pushing buttons, especially
in the playoffs. David Adamans it seems to be a
good coach. He's like on a lot of the he's
the next guy to get a chance on a young team.
Kind of coach. I just this sort of upheaval at
this point in the season tells me that the locker
room isn't really together either, And I just don't know
(28:16):
how you win, especially in a playoff series. You know,
it's one thing when they're traveling a lot right now,
but you get into a playoff series and now, yeah,
you're traveling a lot, but it's not the same. You know,
there's a lot of downtime, and if you don't have
any kind of camaraderie, the chemistry on the court, like
we see it some nights and we don't see it
the others, right, Well, I mean that's the thing that's
(28:38):
that's killed him is I think they're just not connected.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, I mean that's what That's what Josh Cronky said.
They're not playing with a lot of joy out there.
How about I fire the coach in the GM and
maybe you guys can play a little bit more intensely.
Have you guys got fun out there? I just fired
these guys.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's like, yeah, well, you know, people always respond to
the threat of punishment, you know what I mean in
a positive way. I'll just say that the truth is,
like this is kind of it for this team. The
Bucks ran into a similar problem, right, you know, hopefully
when Denver makes a trade for an All Star, it's
(29:14):
not someone who's over the hill, you know, this summer,
because that's the move.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I still think the Nuggets, before this recent slump that
has all occurred without Jamal Murray, right, they were I
think the most common pick for who would make the
conference finals. I think everyone's like the thunder and then
the team I trust probably the second most. I think
the majority opinion was that it was the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I have kind of a hot take. It was not
even maybe it's not a hot take. I have a thought, yeah, okay,
if Jamal Murray comes back and he's healthy, Yeah, and
now you know Jalen Pickett really works, Yeah yeah, right right.
This gives you the opportunity to juice your team a
little bit in a way that it would not if
you had Michael Malone, because like last night, Russ played
(30:03):
seventeen minutes. Oh yeah, it's gonna get down into single
digits by when we get to the playoffs, and that
would not happen if Michael Malone was there. In some
ways they have I think, you know, just it's a
little bit of addition by subtraction and it, but it
all hinges on. Jamal Murray's got to be healthy, Michael
Porter Junior's got to, you know, wake up and uh
(30:28):
and and then if Pickett can give them stuff off
the bench, that's that's a huge boost for them. A
guy who can play two ways and can shoot. They've
been missing that, So, you know, I kind of the
thing is, I actually understand the the this battle of
vision between the front office and Michael Malone. I get it.
But the front office, I think, well, but they given that,
(30:52):
given that, I know, but given that you're cheap right,
Saying hey, we need these guys to be ready in
the playoffs is to me a reasonable ask of a
front office.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know, I don't know, Dave. We did our
steak and eggs. Best things. What's your cream of wheat?
Worst thing you got? The worst thing? I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I think, I mean the fire Nico chants are getting uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now. It's just love.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't like it. Oh, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Love, I have this. It is Listen, it's not even embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
There's something.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Do you want them to riot? No, they have to
have some outlet. I know you gotta have some outlet.
I think fire Nico chants are your best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And do you think we've hit Pete fire Nico, Like
now that he's come back, he've hit the forty five? No,
you think that weird? You're gonna get It's.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Gonna happen at every Dallas Sporting It's gonna happen in
Cowboys games anytime you're bored.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So you think he's gonna make it through the summer.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't know what what what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Kevin Durant, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
My worst thing is it might be uh would be
the Phoenix Suns. It might be that I abandoned It
might be that I abandoned my corner, calling Devin Booker
just an overall losing player, like I think if I
had held that firm, even even through a sixty four
win season, even through them making the finals, people would
(32:20):
be like, Hey, you're unreasonable, man, He's clearly he's clearly
the best shooting guard in the NBA. You're nuts. If
I held firm, I could be doing victory laps right now,
but I can't. Dave, They've lost eight straight games by
double digits. Do you know how rare that is. This
is a team fighting for its life. This is a
(32:40):
team trying to make the play in and in the
midst of fighting for their season, they lost eight straight
games by double digits. Only the Wizards have matched that
this year.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
How did my Buddenholzer not get fired?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You can't? You gotta you gotta quick at some point. Yeah,
I would it if you weren't. I mean, it's probably
a good thing. It's like, it's a it's a competitive
move to allow owners to fire your coach as much
as you want, because you're like, hey, man, if you
want to pay the bill, knock yourself out, all right.
But also part of me wants to be like, you
know how like in some fantasy basketball leagues, like if
you make three waiver moves a week or something, it'd
(33:18):
be funny if you weren't allowed to fire, like you
could only fire your coach like three times in a
five year span or something like you just but I mean,
are they gonna fire up? Here's he was horrible.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The thing is what you've got to think about now
if you're Phoenix. Yeah, and now Memphis has to think
about this. The Spurs and the Nuggets are going to
be looking for coaches. Oh yeah, you are way down
the total pole, you know, like respectfully, and I would
say Memphis. I would rather go there than than Phoenix,
especially you know, given the track record of Link the
(33:50):
time that the coaches have been there, although Phoenix more
likely to overpay somebody who you heard of before.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What's Scott Brooks up to Scotty Books?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Is he not with He's an assistant somewhere with the Lakers.
I keep saying that the Nuggets should photocoll into Nate McMillan.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I saw someone on social media say the Kings need
to fire Doug Christie so they can hire Mike Brown.
Then fire Mike Brown again. Now there apparently there's gonna
be a big coaching Kearrosel this offseason. Yeah. But like
the Suns, I can't get over. Yes, Kevin Durant has
not played the last five games or whatever, he's not
eligible for your all the NBA teams joining the list
(34:28):
of other players who didn't hit the sixty five game mark.
I can't get over the Suns who are playing there.
They're all they were playing for was to try to
make the play in because they have no draft pick.
They they're out of that, they're out of everything. Nightmare situation.
But yeah, maybe maybe it should be a will turn around.
Like I can't get over losing so significantly when you
(34:50):
have again. He tricked me, Devin Booker tricked me into
into into thinking, oh, he's actually amazing. He's one of
the best players.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In the We spent dude, we spent so much time.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Tias Jones least improved player. Well we got Paul. We
got Paul George.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Biggest drop off for Tyas.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Jones DeAndre anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, I feel like Paul George gets the Okay, well
he's old. This is kind of what we expected Tyas Jones.
I like, it feels like he might lose the internet right,
like he was the big, the big pickup, everybody's favorite signing.
Oh he this completes the puzzle. And now I mean
it's like Monte Morris.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean in Montay Morris is there and had
a bad year. Also, speaking of a DeAndre and the Blazers,
the Blazers picked up a huge loss, an important loss.
Somehow they found a way to lose against the Jazz,
who won that game in overtime. The Jazz now tied
with the Wizards. Sense the Boss Show said the Bucking Hoop.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He can shoot, man, like I was, that guy can score, period.
If he's only going to play in the G League,
he could lead the G League and score.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was watching Sensible and also Doug McDermott bury three
pointers and I'm like, why are these guys on a
good team? No, the Trailblazers. I thought that we need
to acknowledge in our last episode of the regular season,
Jeremy Grant has not played a game in April. He
did it again. He has not played a game in
(36:29):
April since twenty twenty one. So that's four straight seasons
of not playing in April. In twenty twenty one, he
only played in April because it wasn't the last month
of the season that year, because this was post COVID
right the season ended in May. He missed eight of
(36:50):
nine games in May. This guy, since he was on
the Nuggets, since he was on the Nuggets in the
bubble lost to the Lakes in the playoffs. Since then,
that man, he's the guy. He's the guy leaving work
on Friday at two pm. And he's done it. He's
(37:10):
done it. He's successfully not played a game in April
for basically five years. He's missed the last month of
the season five straight seasons. Incredible work, perfect Proud of
that guy. Let's answer a listener submitted question. Dave, this
is the croissant question.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Are any questions?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yes? Are you going to finish that quass?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Knock yourself out?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Caleb McNeice asks, this is a good one, Dave. This
this is a geopolitical question in the NBA. Should there
be tariffs on labor for foreign players and should they
count against the salary cap? Tariffs are for goods, So
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in America first position for NBA players, I would say.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know what you have like in Europe, you know
you're only allowed to have two Americans. This is where
you run into situations like Shane Larkin becoming a naturalized
Turkish citizen and he plays not only on the national team,
but he also doesn't take up one of the foreign
player spots you know in the Turkish league there, so uh,
(38:35):
they they kind of gained the system that way where they,
you know, are our europe first, or at least non
American first. A lot of leagues have rules on that
because if you think about it, you're produce so many
basketball players. We would just come and dominate all the leagues.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
That's why you to not Watson. Abby was such a
big signing.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, and so like you know, when you look at
what is it, a quarter of the league now is
foreign born?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Every team can only have one Slovenian.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Now you I mean they're you know that would that
would actually distribute the talent a little.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That Nico Harrison is like, listen, Slovenian spot.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
What if you did something that was more like pro
wrestling regional territories and you say, okay, so the Pacific teams,
you guys, you can only get players. This is Asia Pacific, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
This is the territorial rights of the early Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And so then you could wind up maybe like Chicago
gets special rights to the Balkans, right, I honestly, like,
I think the coolest thing that could possibly happen. And
I hate I would hate this for Denver, but uh,
you know what if like Jokic and and Luca just
decide we're going to team up in Chicago because it's
the you know, most populous outside.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You handled that question pretty well. Let's do one more
unother controversial question.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
But wait, so what if it costs more to have
a foreign more player.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Like yeah, because you got to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, what if this, you know,
like you had to account for currency valuations for them
and you had to pay them, so these guys would
get paid maybe in euros or you know, pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
The dollars tanking, Dave, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm getting at right, all of
a sudden, having Nikola Jokics not the best you know for.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Your your magnus. The question master wants to know should
the MAVs be relocated to Seattle?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
No? No, I mean, like, where are we on this conspiracy?
Don't know, the MAVs to Vegas? Keith, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I feel like I feel like they should somehow move
Nico Harrison in the Dumonts to Seattle, Like yeah, yeah,
like the Mavericks fans should get some kind of separation
from these people who have them in the back and
ruin their franchise.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, this goes back to like the Green Bay Packers model,
where the community owns it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Oh yeah, that's how instead.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Of selling it as an asset. This is the thing
where and to praise the Lakers just a little bit.
It's their business, right. The family owns that team and
they run that as their business and so and it
shows with the way that that they treat their players
and treat the team, and you know, you would never
ever have to worry about the Lakers doing something like
(41:31):
this ever.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the questions everybody. If you
want your question to be answered on there, you gotta
be a Patreon supporter to that at patreon dot com.
Slash Fast break Breakfast. Also, congratulations to our bracket winners
for the men's and women's tournament. Bobby Peyton won the
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men's bracket.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
You got some win percentages on these.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Bobby Peters won the men's bracket for the second straight year.
We're talking about there's like fifty something people in this bracket.
Is he a ringer in this pool?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Is he cheating?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I don't know, very give us sports.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
It could be that situation.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Also going back in time to just cheat at my
my n C double a bracket for a podcast, so
deviously someone would ever suspect.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Also, congrats to Mike Gibbons for winning the women's bracket.
So I'll be reaching out to you. Guys. Are going
to send you a prize pack with a very fancy
T shirt that was saved from floodwaters. It was it
was sealed in an air tight container. We lifted out
of there before the water hit.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Do you have any takes on Gibbons?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No, I don't anyways, Thanks everybody, Patre dot com slash
Fast break Breakfast. All right, Dave, It's now time for
the awards segment of the program. In the International Stackhouse
of Pancakes, awards given each week to the worst performance
in a box score. We haven't given out an award
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in three weeks. I was terrified that there'd just be
way too many names to pick through, too many nominees
to figure out. But luckily we have three I feel
like clear guys who separated themselves over the last three weeks.
We do have a lot of honorable mentions. Here are
(43:31):
some honorable mentions. Jordan Poole, Kelden Johnson, Precious to Chua,
Ricky Council the fourth and Spencer Dinwitty all went win
for eleven. Malik Monk, Fred van Vliet, Nick Smith Junior
all had two for fourteen games, and then Miles Bridges
gave us a four for twenty and Shay had a
seven for twenty nine. Those are just honorable mentions. Are
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three nominees over the last three weeks. I mean I
literally thought, Dave, we might have to do like three awards,
there'd be so many. Now this is good. We got
this one guy to win over the last three weeks.
Our nominees as they occurred, chronologically. Desmond Bain in a
loss to the Thunder was one for twelve, had three points,
(44:13):
six assists, two rebounds, one steal, three turnovers, three personal fouls.
Was a minus thirty plus minus in that one. Donovan
Mitchell in a loss to the Sons, That guy lost
to the Sons. You know how hard that is. Donovan
Mitchell in a loss to the Sons was two for eighteen,
seven points, four rebounds, three assists, two steals, zero turnovers,
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zero personal fouls. Perhaps try and then Alex Sar in
a loss to the Heat was three for seventeen. These
are Summer League throwback numbers from Alex Sar three for seventeen,
eight points, three rebounds, three assists, one steal, two blocks,
two turnovers, five personal fouls. So Dave we're picking between
Desmond Bain one for twelve three points, six assists, Donovan
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Mitchell two for eighteen seven points, three assists, Alex Sar
three for seventeen points, two blocks, Donovan Mitchell's gotta be
Donald Mitchell, right, do Yeah? In a competitive basketball game, I.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Keep throwing Donovan Mitchell under the bus when I'm talking
about how Shane Gildess Alexander is the MVP. Oh yeah,
you'll love it. Yeah, right, yeah, best player on the
best team is a great argument. Yeah, And it's not
like Shae is putting up Donovan Mitchell numbers, right, Like
Shaye's putting up MVP numbers and he's on the best team. Yes,
if somebody was trying to make the case for Donovan Mitchell,
(45:34):
I'd be like, uh no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Look, he's he's putting up Desmond Bay numbers on right.
Maybe the best team second best, Yeah, by record. Congratulations
to Donovan Mitchell winning this week's International Sack House of
Pancakes Award. Alex Sar, he's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I like Alex Sar. Look if they get Cooper flag,
the Wizards are instantly going to have some stuff happening
because people have a little bit forgotten that ballall kool
of Bali is so good, especially defensively. I think Sar
defensively shows a liar.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
What does Koola Bali project to you? New topic, New show, Dave,
What is it like? What are we talking? What's a
ceiling here?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Paul George?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
You think Paul George.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
No, no, no, no no. I mean and it's different, right,
because he's a little bit more herky jerkie. Paul George
was so smooth. This is why all these young guys
really like Paul George, because like aesthetically, it's a little
bit of the Kobe, or not the Kobe, but the
Kyrie thing. It's just beautiful to watch Paul George when.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
He's doing second second Wizard's question. Yeah, this is Wizard's corner.
Would you trade Bob Carrington for Denny Avdia, Yes, because
Apia right, he's putting up Donovan Mitchell numbers slash Shay
Denny Avdya's uh March and April run giddy esque with
(47:05):
the unbelievable stats of the last month. And of course,
I mean Joe Cronin got an extension. People were calling
for Joe Cronin's head. It felt like throughout the Damian
Lillard was that just Heat fans, It was.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Miamy Heat fans. That was honestly. They they were doing
fire cronine, like the fire Nico thing.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, it's okay. They have a different team. Does it
for your ge?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
They want?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, they want have a police escort when he walks
into the Rose Garden.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Heat media wanted an NBA investigation into why he wouldn't
trade Damian Lillard to the Heat.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
I still want an investigation into why the league didn't
stop the Luca trade. Do they have they have no
mechanisms for they have no mechanisms for being like, you're
destroying your franchise. You're devaluing our franchise. The bylaws say
we don't allow you to do that. I mean, I'm
just throwing stuff out. I don't know. I was buwn
away Dave. I think we did it. I think it's
(48:05):
all we have time for Alex Sar Does he go
number one in a redraft? Still Reese's shay. Both of
those guys are like good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Honestly, I mean, Stephan Castle would be up there, right.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I guess I think so. I felt like this is interesting.
I don't know. This is like a this is like
a Ringer episode. Now the uh. At the start of
last year's draft, obviously I was keeping track of it
because the griss has had a top ten pick and
I'm listening to all this stuff that it's just like
it's like project project, project, risky, project, I got risky.
That guy's risky. Safest pick might be a Red Shepherd,
(48:38):
might be Rob Dillingham. And now it's like, are dialing
him and Shepherds still projects. But meanwhile the projects in
sar In Reese's shall they look great?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, I would after seeing them play for a year. Absolutely.
The knock on on not so much what's the knock.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well, the knock on these guys coming in was all right,
there's no like number one or whatever. Okay, it's a
league that you know, there's five guys on the court.
I think like Reese's Shay, he may not be have
the most juice like off the dribble, but man, he
finishes play as well. I think he's a good connector. Uh.
He's obviously long and he fits in when Jalen Johnson
is there next year, I actually think I mean, the
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Hawks were so fun until you know the injury.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I mean they are I mean I would feel I
mean I was happy they won the lottery just because
they they strove, they with their last ounce of courage.
They dream the impossible dream and they're like, well, we're
gonna keep trying to win, and then they jumped up
in the lottery. I hope it's what happens this year.
I hope some team. Hope is I hope the troilp
players win Cooper Flag, Like I want someone who played
(49:39):
it out to win the lottery. But like, yeah, with
Dyson Daniels, who you know, is setting steel records that
we haven't seen before because we us to keep track
of steels. But like the numbers he's putting up. And
then when you get Jill and Johnson back and then
Trey plus Reesa's Sha, they got a really fun team.
Here's how I want to end the show. Dave a
(49:59):
reverse kudos to me A negative. I got this wrong,
I got I got I got two small things. One.
I felt like I was trying to do a zag
against the normal podcaster takes this off season about Naji Marshall,
m I'm like everyone, it just feels like I was
supposed to say that guy's really good even though he
wasn't playing that much for the Pelicans, and everyone's like, oh,
(50:20):
you know, it's a great signing. You know, you know
what Nico Harrison hit out of the park signing Naji Marshall.
And I'm like, you know, here's my podcast. I'm a
zag against all my rest of my podcasters. Are we
sure he's good?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
He's been like really good And I'm like, man, he'd
be great on all Why didn't all these teams sign him?
It seemed obvious, like why do you sign it for
nine million dollars? So I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I mean, like, how would he work on the wing
in Memphis? Be amazing for nine million years? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Amazing? And now we don't have Jalen Wells because he
was murdered by kJ Simpson guy horrible dirty play. Yeah, anyways,
I feel bad about that. Also, I was preparing another
podcaster take about the about Luca's ejection where Lukey got
ejected because he was trash talk on a fan. I
was ready to push back, defend my referee brother and
be like, I don't believe him. Luca yells at the
(51:07):
refs all the time. I don't believe this. Oh, it's
the guy behind you. It's the guy behind you. I
don't believe you, Luca. That was That's where I was.
I was prepping that take, and then the league riscinds
the technical like immediately.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
The guy they we got a quote from the guy
in the in the stands about playing the game within
the game fairly. He's good buddies with Andrew Schleck.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
So yeah, so you know, yeah, it was it was
jt Or messed up the NBA referee. Uh, should not
have ejected Luca in a very close game.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Shouldn't have ejected Luca anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, when we get when we get your uh regardless,
you think when we have Dave Defour's Combat Basketball League
sponsored by Bill and Beer, where there's no ejections.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Okay, no, there would be ejections. I'm not into Basketball
is not a contact sport. It's a physical sport, right,
so contact is fine. I just think, man, these refs,
there's a point where you just put your earmuffs on.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I gotcha. Anyways, thanks everybody for hanging out with us.
Dave pleasure as always. If you want more from us,
come join in the slack channel over at Patreon dot com,
slash fast, break breakfast anyways, you guys are the best.
Thanks for listening. Remember breakfast is the most important thing.
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