July 23, 2025 • 22 mins
NBA Summer League is over and the Hornets are the champions. On this episode, Keith goes over his player notes from summer league, acknowledges some new record holders, talks about the All-Summer League Team (and snubs), and a lot more.
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Episode 805 (S11 Ep. 30)
Also covered: Damian Lillard and Chris Paul reunions!
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Episode 805 (S11 Ep. 30)
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, and welcome to Fast Break, Reckless NBA podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
My name is Keith.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Parish and I'm here today to wrap up some of
my MBA Summer League thoughts, some of my notes from
Summer League. Things I didn't get to on last episode.
Some things I've caught up on since I got home,
since the league past blackout was lifted, and now I've
(00:37):
been watching even more Summer League, so there are some
things I wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Dave de Four not here on today's show.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is on his European vacation, so some stuff to
hit for an episode this week before we get to
the Summer League news. The biggest news I think in
the last few days is the acquisition by several teams
of veteran guards, headlined by the heartwarming story of Damian
(01:11):
Lillard going back to the Trailblazers after getting waved and
stretched by the Bucks. The Trailblazers jumped on this opportunity
to add perhaps the greatest player in their franchise's history.
Dame gets to return home again. Heartwarming is the adjective
(01:32):
as he talks about how his kids were excited he
gets to live at home and doesn't have to fly
to Milwaukee anymore, so he gets to rehabit home this
entire season and the next season.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The Blazers have.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Possibly an unbelievable value contract as they get Damian Lillard
for the mid level exception. It's a three year deal,
so Damian Lollard double dips essentially gets his money from
the Bucks, gets this new contract from the Trailblazer, He
gets to be around the team, gets to rehab in
the Blazers facilities, and then as this up and coming
(02:06):
team goes into the next couple of years, perhaps they
have the ideal veteran leader. If Damian Lillard can't return
to form, it isn't that big of a deal. It
seems like totally worth giving him this contract just as
a veteran leader, but also perhaps as an all star.
If he gets back to ninety percent of his form,
(02:29):
might be exactly what this team needs. So that's a
fun story. In the NBA, it's a strange situation where
all these huge contracts just don't exist anymore. As far
as we had guys on what you would call maybe
not the best contracts. I mean, Damianllward's contract seemed totally fair,
but it was so big. It was slightly immovable, but
now he was an intertricted free agent gets to join
(02:51):
up with the Trailblazers. Similarly, we had the Bradley Beal
contract of course, that got waived and stretched. Bradley Beal
join the Clippers. The eight and contract with the Trailblazers
bought eight and out, so that huge matching contract it disappeared.
Also there was Marcus Smart, so Marcus Smart big news.
(03:12):
Recently he joins the Los Angeles Lakers. Between Lillard, Beal
and Smart, that's like one hundred and thirty million dollars
in contracts, where now the new teams get him for
these values. Say what you will about Bradley Beal having
him at about five million a year, that's great. Marcus Smart,
of course has mister a ton of games over the
(03:33):
past two seasons slash past five seasons, but at five
and a half million dollars a year, that's basically the
best use of those resources. The Lakers I think did
a great job this offseason. They moved on from Dorian
Finney Smith, but they turned him, Dorian Finney Smith and
(03:53):
his roughly fifteen million dollars salary into three other guys.
Who should play big rotation. It gives them more depth.
They turned the DFS money into DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart,
and also Jake Laavia, who they signed as a free agent.
The acquisition cost for those guys absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It seems like a.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Great bit of business for the Lakers in their specific circumstance.
I mean, yes, Marcus Smart not on the plus side
of his career, but I think he's still better than
most NBA players. He's an average at worst, I would
say NBA player, And to get him for this contract,
(04:37):
a guy who can play in the postseason can stay
in your rotation if healthy. Of course, massive caveat. That's
a great win for the Lakers in my opinion. Also,
we got the Chris Paul reunion. The Clippers get older
and older. Not only did they get Bradley Beal. Not
only did they sign Brook Lopez, but now Chris Paul.
(04:58):
Much like Damian Lillard going back to the Trailblazers, Chris
Paul going back to the Clippers. Bradley Beal's gonna let
him have the number three jersey. So CP three is
back for the Los Angeles Clippers, an absolutely ancient basketball team.
But you figure they have enough of these old guys
(05:19):
that hopefully most of them will be healthy for the year.
The youngest guy on the team is that John Collins.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
He's twenty seven, surprisingly young. But those are the national
kind of big NBA stories, the most interesting things going
on for i'd say most people. For me, it's still
Summer League. It's the wrap up of Summer League. And
I am now going to run through just a bunch
of Summer league stats and observations that I have.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I'll say, as I.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Go through my notes, these are not ordered in importance.
Perhaps I should have ordered them, but no, I'm just
gonna read off some observations about a bunch of these.
I'm gonna go through the Summer League MVP, first teams
and second teams.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But let's start with Cole Swider.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's right, unrestricted free agent Los Angeles Lakers Summer League
player Cole Swider. Cole Swider has played so many Summer
league games in his career. He made eighteen to three
pointers in this year's Vegas Summer League. It was tied
for the most with David Jones Garcia. But according to
Real GM, Cole Swider has made seventy one career three
(06:31):
pointers in Vegas Summer League, which is by far the most.
It's the most by a mile. The next most is
forty eight. I could give you one hundred guesses. I
don't think you'd get the player by Kobe Carl Now.
I don't know the exact accuracy of the real GM
stats database.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think it's mostly right.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You will find guys listed in there twice, and usually
that means it was another summer league that didn't get counted,
and so in those situations I go with the bigger number.
So maybe there are some errors here, But appears Cole
Swider has made twenty three more three pointers in Summer league,
twenty three more than anybody else. Ever, I don't know
if that will ever get touched. You have to play
(07:16):
so many summer league games. I mean, he's played twenty
one summer league games, seventy one three pointers made, well
over three three pointers made per game. So why did
I start here? I don't know. Cole Swider a very
fringe NBA player, barely an NBA player. I think he's
twenty six. Does he get back in the league this year?
(07:36):
I don't know, but he is a Summer league shooting legend,
So kudos to you Cole Swider with your seventy one
career Summer League three pointers. Speaking of other Summer League records,
let's acknowledge Alex Sarr for setting a Summer league record
(07:58):
with eight blocks in a game. He erased Jaron Jackson
Junior in several others with their previous record of seven
blocks in a game. Alex Sar played two games. He
got three blocks in the other game, so he finished
with the Summer league average of five point five blocks
per game. Real GM says this is the best single
(08:19):
season Summer league average. I don't love it that it's
just two games. I don't know what the minimum cutoff
should be for the real GM all time Summer League stats.
I also recognized caring about Summer League historical leaders is
a sign of illness. But his teammate, here's a rookie
to talk about. Second round draft pick Jamiir Watkins tied
(08:39):
a summer league records with eight steals in a game.
Donovan Mitchell also had eight steals in a Summer league game.
That was a game I attended where he stole the
ball basically always from Wade Baldwin fourth. The other guys
to have eight steals in a Summer League game, Cam
Whitmore and Justin Dienttman they share the record, but Jamiir
(09:01):
Watkins eight steals in a game he recorded in five
games what appears to me to be a Summer League
record twenty one steals. Twenty one steals in five games
for Jamiir Watkins, who is twenty four years old already.
He's on a two way this year, but is a rookie.
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Another second round pick, rookie Brooks Barnheiser. He notably grabbed
thirteen steals in his first two games in Vegas. He
had seven and then he had six, but he was
outdone by Jamiir Watkins, who.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Got eight in a game.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now, as far as the Summer League awards from the league,
Kyle Philapowski did win Summer League MVP. I talked about
him on the Last Fast Break Breakfast episode. He finished
his three Vegas games with a twenty nine point three
scoring average that is the third highest ever scoring average
for an individual Summer League league. The other players on
(10:01):
the All Summer League First Team, it was Philipowski, Nick
Clifford from the Kings David Jones Garcia, Jordan Miller, and
Terrence Shannon Junior Nick Clifford, who led the Kings to
the Summer League title game, where they lost to the Hornets.
His first four games really stood out. In those four games,
he averaged eighteen and a half points per game, six
(10:22):
and a half rebounds, five assists per game, had a
nine assist game there, juicing those assists totals. But in
his final two games, the semifinals and finals, his numbers
came crashing down. Only had seventeen points combined in those
two games, terrible shooting percentages, had six turnovers, and five assists.
David Jones Garcia talked about him on the last show
(10:44):
about being in an absolute bucket. He finished Summer League
with unreal shooting splits of fifty three to fifty three
ninety two and averaged twenty two points per game in
just twenty five minutes per game. Also averaged six rebounds,
four assists, and a steal per game. He got a
two way deal with the Spurs. Jordan Miller, who was
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on the first team. This is his third Summer League.
Last year, in five Summer League games in Vegas, he
averaged twenty five points per game this year, averaged twenty
two points per game, so an absolute elite Summer league stud.
He's also a free agent right now, so he's looking
for a spot in the league. Terren Shannon Junior. He
played for the Timberles. Of course, Timberles won all three
(11:26):
games that he played in. He averaged twenty points where
he scored at least twenty points in all three of
those games. Averaged twenty three, six boards, five assists. He
was eighteen out of nineteen for the line thirty nine
percent on three pointers. This second team for All Summer
League Ron Holland, as discussed last episode, he was really good,
absolutely impressive. Isaac Jones for the Summer Kings. He had
(11:48):
a thirty six or seven point game in the semifinals,
scored twenty four in the title game. A fun prospect
which I feel embarrassingly ignorant of. He played thirty one
games for Sacramento last year, and he got his deal
guaranteed at the end of the season, so he is
on a minimum for this upcoming season. Isaac Jones had
a big Summer League. Kanka Nipple was on the second team. Honestly,
(12:10):
I'm surprised he was not on the first team. He
led the Hornets to an undefeated Summer League championship run.
His numbers, his stats weren't exactly eye popping, so that's
why I don't know someone like Nick Clifford got in
over him. But he was really good. After a bumpy debut,
(12:31):
he was very steady. He finished averaging sixteen points, five rebounds,
and four assists per game. Shot thirty four percent on threes.
Kinnipple was good also, Aj Mitchell. He only played three games,
the Thunder won them all. He scored twenty points per
game at Summer League. Like any player who returns, any
second year player, you hope they stand out, and he did.
(12:52):
He was clearly a level up from the competition. The
final member of the second team was kJ Simpson, getting
a little recognition for the Hornets title run.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
He averaged sixteen.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Points per game six assists per game, not good shooting numbers,
but apparently gets credit for all the winning. And so
those ten guys make your All Summer League team. Of course,
who are the snubs? All Right, I'm not gonna get
too deep in the weeds on this one, but I
think there are some guys maybe have a good argument
like maybe of making it over kJ Simpson, even Overne
(13:25):
Clifford drew Timmy. Now he gets punished for the Nets losing,
but drew Timmy. He played three games, lost them all,
but absolutely massive numbers twenty five points per game, eight
rebounds per game, three assists per game. A Javon Freeman
Liberty averaged twenty one points, six boards, three and a
half assists, and one point four steals in his five games.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Seems like he could gets some recognition.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Chris Livingston for the Bucks, he played very, very well.
He actually picked up a contract with the Bucks. He
released but then re signed. This was his third Summer League.
It gives him a leg up. Of course, he's appeared
in forty two regular season games for the Bucks in
his career, but.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He's still only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So him averaging twenty one points per game in summer
league coming off a G League season where he averaged
eighteen points eight rebounds per game, I think it's impressive.
As a twenty one year old. That makes him younger
than twenty players drafted in the second round of this
year's draft, so significantly younger. So a good summer league
for Chris Livingston. Cody Williams of the Jazz. He had
(14:35):
a very good Summer league. Arguably he could have been
a member of the All Summer League team. He of
course had an atrocious rookie campaign, but twenty points per
game in his five Vegas games, And then I would
say maybe the other guy who maybe had a strong
argument to make an All Summer League team is Nae
Kwon Tomlin for the Cavaliers. He played in five games
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in Vegas, averaged twenty points per game, e rebounds per game,
three assists, and two point two steals per game. He's
a twenty four year old on a two way contract.
He appeared in five regular season games last year for
the Cavs. He also averaged those numbers in the G
League last year. So maybe I need to find out
more about Nakuon Tomlin seems like a good player, all
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right now, let's just hit a bunch of random names
to kind of wrap up this Summer League summary. Dalton
Connect I made a slight joke last episode about his struggles,
and I'll just give you this specifics. He played a
total of six Summer League games. He had one twenty
(15:41):
five point performance in the California Classic. His other five
Summer League games were very poor. He failed to make threes,
he failed to score, possibly he's going through a crisis
of confidence. But sub thirty percent shooting for Dalton connect
and not scoring a more positive story. Darn Holmes for
the Nuggets. After tearing his achilles at Summer League last year,
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he had a bunch of really positive moments. His final
two games in Vegas, he had back to back double doubles,
including a nineteen point, seventeen rebound, five assists game. He
did only have three assistant his first four Summer League games,
so the passing was in a total part of his
game in Summer League, but his possible availability this year
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to be in the rotation when you combine that with
the other pickups they've made with Junis Valonchiunas's public commitment
that he is playing for the Nuggets this year and
will be trying his hardest, drawn Holmes, maybe a bright
spot for that squad. Curtis Jones for the Nuggets had
a good Summer League. He was an undrafted rookie on
an exhibit ten who averaged fifteen points in four assists.
(16:53):
He made us three pointers and got offered a two
Way contract for that for his performance notable from Summer
League Killel, where played had some big games with The
biggest story for him was he was publicly called out
by Eric Spolstra for not giving it his all all
the time for his low motor and that of course
(17:14):
was his you know red flag in the draft process
was this guy doesn't maybe give it his all.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So that was a notable.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Storyline from Summer League Nicola Topich for the thunder he played,
he had more turnovers than assists in Utah. He did
write the ship slightly in Las Vegas thanks to a
single ten assist three turnover performance against the Pacers. But
in his six Summer league games he played, he shot
(17:43):
thirty three percent from the field, had an average of
six assists in five turnovers per game. So he did
make some fancy passes. They got people excited. There were
some highlight passes, but the rest of the game pretty
big question mark. I I'm going to plant my flag
and call him worst defending Nick Koalathus.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
As far as the lottery picks that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Played, Jeremiah Fears is the only lottery pick who suited
up and played in all of his team's games. Law
Murray at the Athletic was tracking this.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Jeremiah Fears.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You give him his credit for suiting up and playing
every game, but he was a turnover machine. Actually the
turnover kings of the Summer League. It is the two
lottery picks for the Pelicans. Jeremiah Fears and Derreck Queen
were top two in turnovers per game. Derreck Queen, who
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unfortunately hurt his wrist and this out for several months.
Derreck Queen somehow averaged five point seven turnovers per game,
which led all of Summer League, and second place was
his teammate Jeremiah Fears, who averaged five turnovers per game.
As far as the other lottery picks, I went over
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most of them on last week's episode with Dave. Of course,
Cooper Flagg very impressive. Dylan Harper I thought was okay,
but he was hampered by I think a groin injury.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
VJ.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Edge Comb only played that one game. I've already talked about.
Knipple A. S. Bailey didn't play in Vegas. Trey Johnson.
I don't think I mentioned enough. I went back and
watched both of his games with the league pass embargo
being lifted. Trey Johnson made his shots, had a bunch
of highlight plays, so he averaged nineteen and a half
points per game. In Summer League. Fears did again turn
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the ball over a ton, but seventeen points per game.
Igor Denham still not really sure. He at least made
his three pointers. He's tall, but I don't know about that.
Like I said last episode, call him Murray Boyles was
fun to watch. Raptors were very very good. Malaw Watch
didn't do anything. Cedric Coward of course, didn't play Noah
a Singe despite getting dunked on really hard, was very
(20:01):
promising in the one game I attended and watched closely.
And then Carter Bryant, as we talked about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He did bounce back.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He won the International Stackhouse of Pancakes Award for terrible shooting,
but then in his final Summer League game he made
four out of six three pointers. So when you pair
that with his awesome defense, a very promising young player.
Other Summer League snipers I would like to acknowledge, of course,
Cole Swider on volume, David Jones Garcia the absolute bucket,
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made a great percentage of his threes fifty three percent,
and then the other maybe two top shooters in Summer League,
Boogie Ellis of the Suns and Chris Youngblood of the
Thunder And finally the opposite of the Snipers, the worst shooters.
Let's wrap up with the worst shooters of Summer League.
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I already acknowledged the last episode Isaiah Mobley going two
for twenty yet Summer League he didn't play again. Shout
out Clippers player John Poulaktas going three for twenty three
at Vegas Summer League, mainly on three pointers.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's a smooth thirteen percent.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Jalen Slawson was one for eleven at Vegas Summer League.
Jaden Shackleford was ten for thirty nine, so as Hunter
Sallas of the seventy six ers. Celtics Rookies Max Schaulga
Shulgo was seven for twenty nine, as teammate Hugo Gonzalez
was thirteen for forty three. Let's see Chase Hunter and
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Jax Robinson had natural four for twenties but were outdone
by Darius Brown of the Cavaliers and Juwan Gordon at
the Lakers. Both those guys shot four for twenty three
in Vegas Summer League, and our high volume guy Baylor Shireman. Congrats.
He took sixty two field goal attempts in Vegas Summer League,
(21:54):
only made twenty seven percent of them.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's Dalton connect to esque. And then Eves Missy.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Was somehow nine for thirty one on two pointers, did
not take a three pointer. I do not know how
exactly he pulled that off. And with that, let's call
it a rap on Summer League. Now we head into
the deep off season. Dave, of course, continues his European vacation.
(22:22):
I'll get some guests in here in the upcoming weeks
on fast break Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But anyways, thanks everybody for listening.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You're the best, and remember breakfast is the most important thing.
All right, and welcome to Fast Break, Reckless NBA podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
My name is Keith.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Parish and I'm here today to wrap up some of
my MBA Summer League thoughts, some of my notes from
Summer League. Things I didn't get to on last episode.
Some things I've caught up on since I got home,
since the league past blackout was lifted, and now I've
(00:37):
been watching even more Summer League, so there are some
things I wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Dave de Four not here on today's show.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is on his European vacation, so some stuff to
hit for an episode this week before we get to
the Summer League news. The biggest news I think in
the last few days is the acquisition by several teams
of veteran guards, headlined by the heartwarming story of Damian
(01:11):
Lillard going back to the Trailblazers after getting waved and
stretched by the Bucks. The Trailblazers jumped on this opportunity
to add perhaps the greatest player in their franchise's history.
Dame gets to return home again. Heartwarming is the adjective
(01:32):
as he talks about how his kids were excited he
gets to live at home and doesn't have to fly
to Milwaukee anymore, so he gets to rehabit home this
entire season and the next season.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The Blazers have.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Possibly an unbelievable value contract as they get Damian Lillard
for the mid level exception. It's a three year deal,
so Damian Lollard double dips essentially gets his money from
the Bucks, gets this new contract from the Trailblazer, He
gets to be around the team, gets to rehab in
the Blazers facilities, and then as this up and coming
(02:06):
team goes into the next couple of years, perhaps they
have the ideal veteran leader. If Damian Lillard can't return
to form, it isn't that big of a deal. It
seems like totally worth giving him this contract just as
a veteran leader, but also perhaps as an all star.
If he gets back to ninety percent of his form,
(02:29):
might be exactly what this team needs. So that's a
fun story. In the NBA, it's a strange situation where
all these huge contracts just don't exist anymore. As far
as we had guys on what you would call maybe
not the best contracts. I mean, Damianllward's contract seemed totally fair,
but it was so big. It was slightly immovable, but
now he was an intertricted free agent gets to join
(02:51):
up with the Trailblazers. Similarly, we had the Bradley Beal
contract of course, that got waived and stretched. Bradley Beal
join the Clippers. The eight and contract with the Trailblazers
bought eight and out, so that huge matching contract it disappeared.
Also there was Marcus Smart, so Marcus Smart big news.
(03:12):
Recently he joins the Los Angeles Lakers. Between Lillard, Beal
and Smart, that's like one hundred and thirty million dollars
in contracts, where now the new teams get him for
these values. Say what you will about Bradley Beal having
him at about five million a year, that's great. Marcus Smart,
of course has mister a ton of games over the
(03:33):
past two seasons slash past five seasons, but at five
and a half million dollars a year, that's basically the
best use of those resources. The Lakers I think did
a great job this offseason. They moved on from Dorian
Finney Smith, but they turned him, Dorian Finney Smith and
(03:53):
his roughly fifteen million dollars salary into three other guys.
Who should play big rotation. It gives them more depth.
They turned the DFS money into DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart,
and also Jake Laavia, who they signed as a free agent.
The acquisition cost for those guys absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It seems like a.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Great bit of business for the Lakers in their specific circumstance.
I mean, yes, Marcus Smart not on the plus side
of his career, but I think he's still better than
most NBA players. He's an average at worst, I would
say NBA player, And to get him for this contract,
(04:37):
a guy who can play in the postseason can stay
in your rotation if healthy. Of course, massive caveat. That's
a great win for the Lakers in my opinion. Also,
we got the Chris Paul reunion. The Clippers get older
and older. Not only did they get Bradley Beal. Not
only did they sign Brook Lopez, but now Chris Paul.
(04:58):
Much like Damian Lillard going back to the Trailblazers, Chris
Paul going back to the Clippers. Bradley Beal's gonna let
him have the number three jersey. So CP three is
back for the Los Angeles Clippers, an absolutely ancient basketball team.
But you figure they have enough of these old guys
(05:19):
that hopefully most of them will be healthy for the year.
The youngest guy on the team is that John Collins.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
He's twenty seven, surprisingly young. But those are the national
kind of big NBA stories, the most interesting things going
on for i'd say most people. For me, it's still
Summer League. It's the wrap up of Summer League. And
I am now going to run through just a bunch
of Summer league stats and observations that I have.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I'll say, as I.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Go through my notes, these are not ordered in importance.
Perhaps I should have ordered them, but no, I'm just
gonna read off some observations about a bunch of these.
I'm gonna go through the Summer League MVP, first teams
and second teams.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But let's start with Cole Swider.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's right, unrestricted free agent Los Angeles Lakers Summer League
player Cole Swider. Cole Swider has played so many Summer
league games in his career. He made eighteen to three
pointers in this year's Vegas Summer League. It was tied
for the most with David Jones Garcia. But according to
Real GM, Cole Swider has made seventy one career three
(06:31):
pointers in Vegas Summer League, which is by far the most.
It's the most by a mile. The next most is
forty eight. I could give you one hundred guesses. I
don't think you'd get the player by Kobe Carl Now.
I don't know the exact accuracy of the real GM
stats database.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think it's mostly right.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You will find guys listed in there twice, and usually
that means it was another summer league that didn't get counted,
and so in those situations I go with the bigger number.
So maybe there are some errors here, But appears Cole
Swider has made twenty three more three pointers in Summer league,
twenty three more than anybody else. Ever, I don't know
if that will ever get touched. You have to play
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so many summer league games. I mean, he's played twenty
one summer league games, seventy one three pointers made, well
over three three pointers made per game. So why did
I start here? I don't know. Cole Swider a very
fringe NBA player, barely an NBA player. I think he's
twenty six. Does he get back in the league this year?
(07:36):
I don't know, but he is a Summer league shooting legend,
So kudos to you Cole Swider with your seventy one
career Summer League three pointers. Speaking of other Summer League records,
let's acknowledge Alex Sarr for setting a Summer league record
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with eight blocks in a game. He erased Jaron Jackson
Junior in several others with their previous record of seven
blocks in a game. Alex Sar played two games. He
got three blocks in the other game, so he finished
with the Summer league average of five point five blocks
per game. Real GM says this is the best single
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season Summer league average. I don't love it that it's
just two games. I don't know what the minimum cutoff
should be for the real GM all time Summer League stats.
I also recognized caring about Summer League historical leaders is
a sign of illness. But his teammate, here's a rookie
to talk about. Second round draft pick Jamiir Watkins tied
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a summer league records with eight steals in a game.
Donovan Mitchell also had eight steals in a Summer league game.
That was a game I attended where he stole the
ball basically always from Wade Baldwin fourth. The other guys
to have eight steals in a Summer League game, Cam
Whitmore and Justin Dienttman they share the record, but Jamiir
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Watkins eight steals in a game he recorded in five
games what appears to me to be a Summer League
record twenty one steals. Twenty one steals in five games
for Jamiir Watkins, who is twenty four years old already.
He's on a two way this year, but is a rookie.
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Another second round pick, rookie Brooks Barnheiser. He notably grabbed
thirteen steals in his first two games in Vegas. He
had seven and then he had six, but he was
outdone by Jamiir Watkins, who.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Got eight in a game.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now, as far as the Summer League awards from the league,
Kyle Philapowski did win Summer League MVP. I talked about
him on the Last Fast Break Breakfast episode. He finished
his three Vegas games with a twenty nine point three
scoring average that is the third highest ever scoring average
for an individual Summer League league. The other players on
(10:01):
the All Summer League First Team, it was Philipowski, Nick
Clifford from the Kings David Jones Garcia, Jordan Miller, and
Terrence Shannon Junior Nick Clifford, who led the Kings to
the Summer League title game, where they lost to the Hornets.
His first four games really stood out. In those four games,
he averaged eighteen and a half points per game, six
(10:22):
and a half rebounds, five assists per game, had a
nine assist game there, juicing those assists totals. But in
his final two games, the semifinals and finals, his numbers
came crashing down. Only had seventeen points combined in those
two games, terrible shooting percentages, had six turnovers, and five assists.
David Jones Garcia talked about him on the last show
(10:44):
about being in an absolute bucket. He finished Summer League
with unreal shooting splits of fifty three to fifty three
ninety two and averaged twenty two points per game in
just twenty five minutes per game. Also averaged six rebounds,
four assists, and a steal per game. He got a
two way deal with the Spurs. Jordan Miller, who was
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on the first team. This is his third Summer League.
Last year, in five Summer League games in Vegas, he
averaged twenty five points per game this year, averaged twenty
two points per game, so an absolute elite Summer league stud.
He's also a free agent right now, so he's looking
for a spot in the league. Terren Shannon Junior. He
played for the Timberles. Of course, Timberles won all three
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games that he played in. He averaged twenty points where
he scored at least twenty points in all three of
those games. Averaged twenty three, six boards, five assists. He
was eighteen out of nineteen for the line thirty nine
percent on three pointers. This second team for All Summer
League Ron Holland, as discussed last episode, he was really good,
absolutely impressive. Isaac Jones for the Summer Kings. He had
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a thirty six or seven point game in the semifinals,
scored twenty four in the title game. A fun prospect
which I feel embarrassingly ignorant of. He played thirty one
games for Sacramento last year, and he got his deal
guaranteed at the end of the season, so he is
on a minimum for this upcoming season. Isaac Jones had
a big Summer League. Kanka Nipple was on the second team. Honestly,
(12:10):
I'm surprised he was not on the first team. He
led the Hornets to an undefeated Summer League championship run.
His numbers, his stats weren't exactly eye popping, so that's
why I don't know someone like Nick Clifford got in
over him. But he was really good. After a bumpy debut,
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he was very steady. He finished averaging sixteen points, five rebounds,
and four assists per game. Shot thirty four percent on threes.
Kinnipple was good also, Aj Mitchell. He only played three games,
the Thunder won them all. He scored twenty points per
game at Summer League. Like any player who returns, any
second year player, you hope they stand out, and he did.
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He was clearly a level up from the competition. The
final member of the second team was kJ Simpson, getting
a little recognition for the Hornets title run.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
He averaged sixteen.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Points per game six assists per game, not good shooting numbers,
but apparently gets credit for all the winning. And so
those ten guys make your All Summer League team. Of course,
who are the snubs? All Right, I'm not gonna get
too deep in the weeds on this one, but I
think there are some guys maybe have a good argument
like maybe of making it over kJ Simpson, even Overne
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Clifford drew Timmy. Now he gets punished for the Nets losing,
but drew Timmy. He played three games, lost them all,
but absolutely massive numbers twenty five points per game, eight
rebounds per game, three assists per game. A Javon Freeman
Liberty averaged twenty one points, six boards, three and a
half assists, and one point four steals in his five games.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Seems like he could gets some recognition.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Chris Livingston for the Bucks, he played very, very well.
He actually picked up a contract with the Bucks. He
released but then re signed. This was his third Summer League.
It gives him a leg up. Of course, he's appeared
in forty two regular season games for the Bucks in
his career, but.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He's still only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So him averaging twenty one points per game in summer
league coming off a G League season where he averaged
eighteen points eight rebounds per game, I think it's impressive.
As a twenty one year old. That makes him younger
than twenty players drafted in the second round of this
year's draft, so significantly younger. So a good summer league
for Chris Livingston. Cody Williams of the Jazz. He had
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a very good Summer league. Arguably he could have been
a member of the All Summer League team. He of
course had an atrocious rookie campaign, but twenty points per
game in his five Vegas games, And then I would
say maybe the other guy who maybe had a strong
argument to make an All Summer League team is Nae
Kwon Tomlin for the Cavaliers. He played in five games
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in Vegas, averaged twenty points per game, e rebounds per game,
three assists, and two point two steals per game. He's
a twenty four year old on a two way contract.
He appeared in five regular season games last year for
the Cavs. He also averaged those numbers in the G
League last year. So maybe I need to find out
more about Nakuon Tomlin seems like a good player, all
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right now, let's just hit a bunch of random names
to kind of wrap up this Summer League summary. Dalton
Connect I made a slight joke last episode about his struggles,
and I'll just give you this specifics. He played a
total of six Summer League games. He had one twenty
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five point performance in the California Classic. His other five
Summer League games were very poor. He failed to make threes,
he failed to score, possibly he's going through a crisis
of confidence. But sub thirty percent shooting for Dalton connect
and not scoring a more positive story. Darn Holmes for
the Nuggets. After tearing his achilles at Summer League last year,
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he had a bunch of really positive moments. His final
two games in Vegas, he had back to back double doubles,
including a nineteen point, seventeen rebound, five assists game. He
did only have three assistant his first four Summer League games,
so the passing was in a total part of his
game in Summer League, but his possible availability this year
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to be in the rotation when you combine that with
the other pickups they've made with Junis Valonchiunas's public commitment
that he is playing for the Nuggets this year and
will be trying his hardest, drawn Holmes, maybe a bright
spot for that squad. Curtis Jones for the Nuggets had
a good Summer League. He was an undrafted rookie on
an exhibit ten who averaged fifteen points in four assists.
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He made us three pointers and got offered a two
Way contract for that for his performance notable from Summer
League Killel, where played had some big games with The
biggest story for him was he was publicly called out
by Eric Spolstra for not giving it his all all
the time for his low motor and that of course
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was his you know red flag in the draft process
was this guy doesn't maybe give it his all.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So that was a notable.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Storyline from Summer League Nicola Topich for the thunder he played,
he had more turnovers than assists in Utah. He did
write the ship slightly in Las Vegas thanks to a
single ten assist three turnover performance against the Pacers. But
in his six Summer league games he played, he shot
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thirty three percent from the field, had an average of
six assists in five turnovers per game. So he did
make some fancy passes. They got people excited. There were
some highlight passes, but the rest of the game pretty
big question mark. I I'm going to plant my flag
and call him worst defending Nick Koalathus.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
As far as the lottery picks that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Played, Jeremiah Fears is the only lottery pick who suited
up and played in all of his team's games. Law
Murray at the Athletic was tracking this.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Jeremiah Fears.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You give him his credit for suiting up and playing
every game, but he was a turnover machine. Actually the
turnover kings of the Summer League. It is the two
lottery picks for the Pelicans. Jeremiah Fears and Derreck Queen
were top two in turnovers per game. Derreck Queen, who
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unfortunately hurt his wrist and this out for several months.
Derreck Queen somehow averaged five point seven turnovers per game,
which led all of Summer League, and second place was
his teammate Jeremiah Fears, who averaged five turnovers per game.
As far as the other lottery picks, I went over
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most of them on last week's episode with Dave. Of course,
Cooper Flagg very impressive. Dylan Harper I thought was okay,
but he was hampered by I think a groin injury.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
VJ.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Edge Comb only played that one game. I've already talked about.
Knipple A. S. Bailey didn't play in Vegas. Trey Johnson.
I don't think I mentioned enough. I went back and
watched both of his games with the league pass embargo
being lifted. Trey Johnson made his shots, had a bunch
of highlight plays, so he averaged nineteen and a half
points per game. In Summer League. Fears did again turn
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the ball over a ton, but seventeen points per game.
Igor Denham still not really sure. He at least made
his three pointers. He's tall, but I don't know about that.
Like I said last episode, call him Murray Boyles was
fun to watch. Raptors were very very good. Malaw Watch
didn't do anything. Cedric Coward of course, didn't play Noah
a Singe despite getting dunked on really hard, was very
(20:01):
promising in the one game I attended and watched closely.
And then Carter Bryant, as we talked about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He did bounce back.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He won the International Stackhouse of Pancakes Award for terrible shooting,
but then in his final Summer League game he made
four out of six three pointers. So when you pair
that with his awesome defense, a very promising young player.
Other Summer League snipers I would like to acknowledge, of course,
Cole Swider on volume, David Jones Garcia the absolute bucket,
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made a great percentage of his threes fifty three percent,
and then the other maybe two top shooters in Summer League,
Boogie Ellis of the Suns and Chris Youngblood of the
Thunder And finally the opposite of the Snipers, the worst shooters.
Let's wrap up with the worst shooters of Summer League.
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I already acknowledged the last episode Isaiah Mobley going two
for twenty yet Summer League he didn't play again. Shout
out Clippers player John Poulaktas going three for twenty three
at Vegas Summer League, mainly on three pointers.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's a smooth thirteen percent.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Jalen Slawson was one for eleven at Vegas Summer League.
Jaden Shackleford was ten for thirty nine, so as Hunter
Sallas of the seventy six ers. Celtics Rookies Max Schaulga
Shulgo was seven for twenty nine, as teammate Hugo Gonzalez
was thirteen for forty three. Let's see Chase Hunter and
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Jax Robinson had natural four for twenties but were outdone
by Darius Brown of the Cavaliers and Juwan Gordon at
the Lakers. Both those guys shot four for twenty three
in Vegas Summer League, and our high volume guy Baylor Shireman. Congrats.
He took sixty two field goal attempts in Vegas Summer League,
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only made twenty seven percent of them.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's Dalton connect to esque. And then Eves Missy.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Was somehow nine for thirty one on two pointers, did
not take a three pointer. I do not know how
exactly he pulled that off. And with that, let's call
it a rap on Summer League. Now we head into
the deep off season. Dave, of course, continues his European vacation.
(22:22):
I'll get some guests in here in the upcoming weeks
on fast break Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But anyways, thanks everybody for listening.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You're the best, and remember breakfast is the most important thing.
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