June 1, 2024 • 44 mins
En esta nueva entrega de LAS FEMINAS las chicas han decidido invitar Karla Lora (@lolitasjourney) y con ella tratar el tema de las “segundas oportunidades” Karla es una sobreviviente del cancer y nos cuenta como esta enfermedad ayudo a cambiar su perspectiva de la vida. Esperamos que lo disfruten.
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They either to one more episode oftheir favorite female podcast the women with their
hosts Rosall and Rubio to Salome.She served was Mommy Law. Sir,
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today we have our first guest.She is the very special person for us,
apart from a great professional in ourfriend, she is a star for
us a pleasure to have her here, so with you it lite Carla Lora,
lady who can say before our friendand sister speaks, not that in
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my case really, I met withthese two monuments of Dominican mythology the same
day and here we will pass togather photo. Not that it says"
dwarf," go to the bossso they can see when we' re
raccooned paquí a and ay ay ayay ay ay ay ay? They want
those pictures to be when we metWe talked about that in Marullo' s
first episode of damage suit my love, because when we were going to take
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that photo, Rosalí took out thatpot of toast and baina and to all
said we go there, that oil, that oil go there. And welcome
back. Great Lola, to mewhat you are, you are a woman
' s rock, that is,you are like you represent, as so
much strength, so much vitality and, above all, you represent second chances
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A and a. It is thesubject that we have today, sir,
in the second opportunities for those whodo not know, Lola tell a little
bit of your story, for thosewho do not tell you and can notice
for us, can enter into matter. Who Lola is, why Lola happened
and why Lola had a second chanceor several. Well, the truth is,
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my Jurney, my journey of life, has been like everybody else'
s. He' s had hisdischarges and his casualties in my ca Some
of those casualties came with a disease. For other people who use it differently,
I was diagnosed with a type ofblood cancer when I was 20.
After that, I had two relapses. And the truth is that from two
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thousand fifteen to the present, manypeople say wow You' ve recovered and
thank God. I have since thetwo thousand twenty k Hans of Free and
emphasize that I remember the exact moment. We were swimming in a pool in
Santiago in ta that Lola told usthat it had fallen and the truth is
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that I think I' m goingto speak for Leiden and for me also
when I had a person that youlove a lot and that your habit is
to pass pods and like give youa moment like so much happiness that I
give you like a news like thatcrazy. There' s no way that
doesn' t hurt you and fuckyou and I' m gonna tell you
something I know Lolita, well lithium. We are still then I remember that
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in truth one of the things thatI can get the most out of that
moment that any other people who wouldhave might have been in that situation.
And I bunked it up a day- to- day snack, what a
job, what a college, thatis, it was always in constant motion
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and when this happened, I rememberthat you took a break and that'
s where the you wake up comesin. It comes, it comes to
wake up, it' s notjust that a disease comes into your life,
it' s that there' san awakening to wait for you,
I mean, everything can end atany time, I mean at any time
things can change. Then why doI have to keep pace with you,
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because I have to keep pace withyou. And one of the things I
can do the most, where Ican congratulate you the most, is that
she' s crazy at the time. Anyone could imagine. Not that she
wasn' t you, not thatyou didn' t see her on leave,
but what she did to me thatyou could fight that disease twice mad
was your attitude about the disease.You never saw Lolita on low, you
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touched her hair. We didn't prepare, that' s all he
shared that crazy journey, he openedhis eyes a lot of people because he
had someone with that condition and don' t say I mean, don'
t emma. Right now he doesn' t even want everything to be based
on that, because the truth isthat for me and something that inside the
way is, as far as possible, I try to always emphasize that,
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that they weren' t always cutemoments. The reason I decided to share
neither Jearene nor my story on socialmedia was precisely because you didn' t
see a person who got sick andthat was something that was very secret.
No one was talking about that photomayou don' t even mean it exactly.
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Everything was like Bath War. Soyou saw people or you were looking
for something on the Internet and allthat found you was something super depressing and
super like statistics mortality rates is prevalence. So, part of my therapeutic and
healing process was sharing my story and, through my platform, meeting other people
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who were going through similar situations.Or that, for example, I said
look, I lost my hair,but for Lopecia or look, I have
scars, but because I burned myselfor because I have lupus. I mean,
I was able to connect with alot of other people who, like
me, were going through situations thatthey marked before and a deposed, because
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for them it was their exact cross. And many times people like to come
old ay on that trip, soyou mentioned at the beginning that I told
you that you had fallen back.I had two chemos downstairs. I had
given myself a chemo about a weekbefore and these people told me we'
re going for a party in Santiago. I' m on my way,
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I' m on my own.I still hahaja, so I don'
t have two weeks of bow leftand I go not a drop of alcohol,
obviously, but I gave my partyand we' re going to get
the picture out there and that's what we got. Fabulous. I
remember a person like that and youdon' t think that person is sick.
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And so we all carry a crossthat no one has any idea,
no one has any idea, andsometimes people would say ay to me,
but if I was going through thissituation, I would be wrong. Or
I can' t complain. Notevery person' s problems are the biggest,
because it' s you who haveto see what you say. I
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' ll give you a sentence Itdoesn' t make me ten, your
five, that' s all.Oh, that' s why or that
' s why you do or younever know. Sometimes if you don'
t see that someone has a physicalproblem, you understand that that person sounds
good or so, I see youwith hair. Oh no, but Lolita,
you' re super healthy and youcan' t imagine or the disease
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was the simplest thing she ever lived. You know what I mean. I
could tell you what we talked about. I always lived something in my life
that for me has been the strongestthing I' ve ever lived in my
life. And there' s nothingfor me to compare to that. But
that' s true. You andyou can and you could see me and
you saw me laughing and you lookedat me calm. That' s why
no one imagines as much as Ihad a smile on someone' s face
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by the sea, that I hadsomeone with all their limbs, doesn'
t mean that person is okay.Yeah, onden we' re all here.
We' re all right, butI' m gonna get you out
of situations. What' s more, I' d tell you to cut
you short a little bit to agony. Of course that will help you at
the end of the day. Lolain this case, sir, and discleme
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the crazy one of mine is dying. Look and for you to see commitment,
we had already postponed the recording withhim because it was last week because
there was no quota and we saidhey today and I showed myself last night
and I said I don' tcare. I' ll get there with
everything and the good one. Iwish no one was still sick, who
was happy and left. Well,guilty was next on the bottom. Sometimes
you stayed until the end of thevideo, please, with 20 bass.
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How many times what or not toteledi, camiatuación, a tocecita, a
shot or yes love well, Iknow how we will reward something, we
will send you some peling. It' s a cool thing in that PoTA
that you have, tub what ithas, but yeah, that' s
basically what coming back to seriousness,I don' t think what it put
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in is what it really did orit was a milestone for you a before
and a after in your life wasa disease that was just making your body
sick, really, the packaging ofyour soul. But in the end your
soul is also soiled with a lotof energies, thoughts, intrusive pods,
negative pods, bouncing things. Okthey gave me the opportunity now, but
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today I made tomorrow I return asimilar content, that is to say that
the mind of the human being isable to create a lot of thought,
like a destriction of oneself that wastotally crazy. So, how did you
mean, how did it go,how was that flap? Obviously, I
want to pass the second chances,but I want to know how that was
for you and how many second chancesit is at a time of your tentraratu
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t quito, ok Yo, I' m going to give Umgan gig months
of On the flat Limo that yousaid you thought you what happened to your
head. I think every time itwas a little different. The first time
it was like, okay, I' ve been through, I' ve
been through a very strong, strongclinical picture, of course, I already
had half a lung and I wassaying clearly that what that is is nothing.
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But I didn' t know howthe case was going to be a
character when you' ve already walkedthe way and it' s your turn
to pass it again and you knowwhat you' re going to do,
you know what you' re goingto do and you' re going with
another, with another perspective. Thethird time it happened to me. I
can tell you that it was verydifficult for me to have to lose my
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hair again, to have to startfrom being or, to have to go
back to that uncertainty. But Iknew it, too, and it was
something that had happened to me.On the other two occasions, you usually
have something true happening to you.Then I want to feel like me again.
But what happens when you don't know who that is anymore?
I ay mad devil, ay ayay, i mean the whole moment does
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come back then I, for example, when it touched me, i e,
last for a while outside of college, my goal was or that I
want to be healthy enough to goback to college. I went back to
the same thing. When I returnedto college, all my friends had graduated
how crazy he travels, so Ididn' t know anymore and nothing to
say to you too I was acompletely different reality. Apart from the fact
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that physically it couldn' t bethe same, I didn' t feel
as connected at the time all mylife as the career I was studying not
crazy, I felt identified. Thenfor the record, it was already over.
I mean, I was in mylast four months of the law career
and I felt extremely disconnected from therace that in the end I could obviously
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understand that it was not from therace itself, but from the life of
everything. I didn' t knowanymore I wasn' t the carla that
was sick before, because I'm going to tell you something, those
situations that change you, that markthat before and after, those internal processes
and those Pawpoo that you have togive yourself to recognize the person that I
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was before, hera parte and satano. I didn' t have or was
that person. So I' mnot the person I was before the canter,
but I' m not the personI was when I was. I
was like my perchemist in chemo,and I wasn' t the person from
when they told you, look whoI am? I' m who,
how, how I feel about thatone again. You guys didn' t
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happen to him that you had life, but tter and he says I miss
my energy. I took one thingthat you see you have a picture of
and you say that wow, Iwas so naive or I or I was
like, like, you know,you know, you know, at that
stage, it wasn' t thebad clau. But what if there'
s nothing, that is, ifyou don' t have to go back,
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ex how about if you really aren' t not going back, that
there' s no way that you, having gone through that fire again,
you' re the same neither yourskin nor your vexed mole, is that
what happens when you burn, whathappens your piece will have pros but is
destroyed. What are you gonna do? Your body understands or I have to
regenerate this which is damaged later pastwith your coughing mind. In the end,
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there' s really something he's coming back to. And that
was my conclusion at the end thework came after saying ok, who is
Carla now and what carla wants forher life, for a hundred percent,
with her career. And obviously I' m still fine, we follow him,
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but all day long we' regoing to keep discovering. But the
truth is that for me, yes, it was like what most marked me
in that second part, because alsowhen you last, your whole twenty practically
dealing with a disease and that youhave created a project that started by sharing
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that part of your story, youridentity as people. Disgraceful to that and
to me it was very difficult,because there were times that people just wanted
to talk to you about it orand it doesn' t bother me because
I already say it as if itwas a script, because that' s
not happening now. That was anex- patsh, literally you kind of.
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You must link up with that,but it' s still part of
Persia Mm- hmm It' snot who you are, but what I
am, then it' s okwho I am. If I don'
t have change, you don't, then what do I do.
Now true, apart from sharing herelive, we were talking about Damocles Aha
' s sword Give me that story, please, now we do, well.
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The history experts, please don't finish me c But basically I
was a tyrant named Dionysius of Sicily, who had a courtier named Damocles or
Damocless. Damocless was always a littlebit, as curious of the life led
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by the tyrant, who had manyriches, who had many servants, until
one day Dionysus tells him ok wewill change. At the end of the
day, after drinking and eating alreadyJuarez and other live philipp like, Damocles
looks up he realizes that he nolonger wanted what they were offering him,
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because above him there was a sword, a sword hanging only from a hair
or a hair from a horse's horse' s horse. Which means
it' s pretty fine truth thatat any moment you can touch it.
It' s a story or ayes, it' s a moral story
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that comes to tell you about thisone that the thank you Oys Greene on
the alhr Side we pretend that thingsare better for other people that happen to
you a lot, what are youthinking of that person? I, my
sword of Damocles, for example,is that I am not high. I
go twice a year to the doctorand still not to me, I mean
I have to wait ten years,that is, in the two thousand thirty.
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I' m being discharged. Youunderstand that at any time the sword
of Mocles can fall. We alllive with a moc sword all the time.
Since you have an ocu, that' s going to look different,
but we' re all always afraidthat they' ll hurt us, that
they' ll create things, thatthings won' t work out for us,
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that it' s going to bewrong for you, that you,
that it' s not going wellwith your personal relationships, man, that
your work isn' t going wellfor you either, that' s all
the time. We have doubts aboutthings, thinking that maybe the bad can
happen and all the time We havea sword because today I can be extremely
grateful, but tomorrow I can beafraid, fears of the past many times,
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at least it is one of myinternal struggles. Sometimes I don'
t want to repeat things from mypast. You understand then constantly me or
I' m questioning myself, orI' m or questioning the things that
happen around me and like I alwayswant to, like to evoke the fifth
leg, like for me many timesthe thing can' t just be.
Then understand that sometimes torments me becauseI or I want to add a meaning
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to what is happening. Or Idon' t feel like maybe you'
ll tell me no what but thatdoesn' t. That' s just
that color. There' s noproblem. I want to, like,
want to dig deeper into things thatsometimes don' t have that deep.
You know and that' s sometimesmy constant struggle And it' s for
the experience of the past, becauseyou don' t want to see yourself
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in the same circumstance that you avoidand sometimes you might predispose yourself in situations
or advance you what may happen.You worry, you worry too much only
about things that have happened to youbefore. And sometimes I' ll tell
you something. Sometimes you attract yourselfwith the mind, because those are wanting
to avoid something so much you areconditioned. You the exact thing, you
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don' t and energetically your bodyalready getting into ok This is going to
happen. This can' t belate. I mean, and I'
ve talked several times, I mean, it hasn' t happened to you.
He said he was going to belate and you' re late,
you haven' t spent it yourselfthat you screw up a table and after
the day he goes on his mouth. It' s just like that.
So what you say is that youeither think about everything or go over it.
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I don' t think it's that bad. I tell you
little a attention that I also haveI would say that more than bad,
perhaps it comes to ra there inunhealthy, many exactly unhealthy. I think
the important thing about you can recognizewhen it' s no longer healthy,
because I' m going to tellyou one thing. I' d hate
to keep Conchale' s whatte offand what would have happened. If I
had, if I ran over that, then you' d get over that.
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So that doesn' t surprise me, it' s exactly so that
it won' t happen to me. Then you understand where you have to
put yourself as a quota, notthat you say I already have. I
think there are simpler things in lifeand I just piss off my eyes a
little bit to realize in front ofyour eyes what it requires of complexity and
what it requires of that company.Yeah, I mean, there are things
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that really don' t come alongYou know what I mean. I think
it also happens when you give upa second chance at yourself. If you
in the past gave a second chanceand that second chance wasn' t taken
advantage of the way you wanted towait and you see the same circumstance and
you have to give another second chance. Either you don' t give or
you scare him very much. Youunderstand the cho, what happens is that
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I story you interrupt when we're doing things, so we' re
going in a lot of fear.We have to remember that we are children,
we are grown children, yes,literally the children yes hurt two then,
that emotion that you feel of aversionto something or that you refuse to
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let something happen. I think you' re conditioned Believe him, he'
s your hurt little girl. Now, you can' t take advantage of
that and you can' t takethat as a crutch, like, as
you' re told, everything isn' t always going to have an explanation.
And it' s okay that youdon' t have a little bit
of it can get him,'cause I' m gonna tell you something.
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There are people who say that andthat I' m sorry to the
one who told me that and itfeels like a was for you was stopping,
but let' s go upstairs.We have, for example, the
same thing as when people told himand you were a war. Oh,
you. You' re one.As everything goes through something and no,
ok no, the answer is notone for you to be a warrior.
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We' re both supposed to bein a fight and we' re almost
equal conditions in cancer is a tombolas, a literal Russian roulette. Today it
' s my turn, tomorrow it' s your turn. Children are born
with cancer. There' s areason for that, there' s a
teaching back. That' s notthat you' re looking for a meaning
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for your ability to cope with thesituation. Not that it' s something
else that everything goes through. No. There are no things that don'
t have my explanation. And themore we take power away from the things
that happen to us, the easierwe' re going to be able to
and I know it sounds nicer oreasier said than done, by the way,
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but it' s important for youto repeat that you hear not everything
is going to have an explanation.Not everyone will be able to take advantage
of the things presented to them.We' re not going to understand why
it happened to us. But simplyand simply follow, because what is the
alternative. No one doesn' tor what leaves it or if it follows
or lets you fall, I mean, there' s no other thing that
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told you to die, I mean, you said something about how I'
m worrying. But the word worryis good to divide it, because sometimes
you get preoccupied with something that youhave to blame as you want or want
you have to solve it as youwant? So why are you worrying about
going ahead with a whole thing that' s probably gonna happen to me three
times twice suffers twice, then it' s a little strong. I'
m the one who' s lookingfor reasons for everything. I don'
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t know if because, like havingentered into this spiritual subject, it has
caused the answers to come to meaha in a very different way from that
of the human. I don't know if you' re going common
basic or it' s not exactlyspiritual, but I' ve had tools
through the thing, I' vebeen able to get to the reasons for
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the thing. And when those reasonscome to me or they get messages to
me through people who, for example, would never tell me a thing like
that or by people I don't even know who did something to me
that I say no, because there' s no way that everything is.
Because yes, then God, theUniverse, your ancestors have a way of
manifesting themselves in your life as well. And the truth is, when someone
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tells you that things happen for areason, I' d say that more
than anything, there' s noway that you were the woman that you
were now. If you hadn't gone through that whole way, then
for me it' s your reason, because you don' t know how
many people you' re saving hislife. You don' t know if
you didn' t come the worldmakes a simple and common lawyer. You
came to be a lawyer who,besides having power of opinion and besides having
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the power of opinion, is calledwhen you have like the one where he
talks, yes, you have thegift of expressing yourself as you prey on
yourself and you add a crazy crazybattle to that. That' s the
same as your life Yes, thetruth, but that can be a lot
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of clear people, but you can' t, and that' s why
I' m trying to tell youabout it, because we put so much
on it and me and Carla NicolGarcia the hour today pleads guilty. Yes,
at some point, of course youknow I' m a certified coach.
Yes, and there was a timein life when everyone wanted to make
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coach and everyone wanted r fashion withthe and that was an engine and we
were all doing the same thing andthey gave with the purpose of life,
the purpose of life. Monetizing meto a workshop and that and not that
I do not believe in the purposeof life, but we put on,
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we put on such a great pressurethat we have to find ours as if
it were singular, our purpose oflife, when for me the purpose of
life changes as you grow. Sure, yeah, and you believe in things.
My purpose of yesterday is not thesame as today and life is presenting
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you with situations that are making youchange your purpose. You need the media.
Sure, but I have questions.Tell me we already talked about obviously,
when they give us second chances.But let' s turn them around
a little bit and go there whenwe get second chances. There' s
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little rule there. What' she fixing up with? You measure how
much, how many opportunities or foryou you give a chance, a person
' s second chance, with whatyou measure that I, personally, the
girls you' re playing right now. Yeah, I' m already hurt,
friend, and you can' teven complain about doing this episode with
toy erection. Yeah, yeah,well. I think one of the things
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I look at mainly is that youshow me, or me, in a
way. One has to put proof. You understand evidence that puts you to
show me that you genuinely regret havingcommitted and that you deserve a second chance,
because it' s very easy justto say oh forgive me bad mine,
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I' m not going to dothat to you again tomorrow. You
understand a lot I mean, andI say it because whoever' s suffering
what happened overnight, my pain isn' t going to go away. I
understand then for that pain to goaway and for forgiveness to be genuine because
one thing that I want forgives youfrom we go and we' re going
to stick together and that thing thatmy heart genuinely peaces you with what happened
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and understands that already in the futureyou won' t do it again.
But for that I need evidence.I need proof, not by word of
mouth, because I don' tdo anything. Not the words pipe,
the words get married, the windtakes them. Of course I' m
lying to you,' cause thekisses fall off exactly. So now I,
too, when I have given secondsor portunities, have given them by
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being aware, being sure that theother person is showing me that even if
this person returns and makes the mistake. And well, let' s go
into the circle, which is oneof the circles I want to break with
because in the past I forgave alot, because when I had so much
greatness in the other people and whenyou have the heart so pure to you
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it is very difficult. He doesn' t see purity in other people happens,
but many times you' re seeing. Your purity projected on the other.
It' s not the purity ofthe other. Because and not that
doesn' t mean that people aren' t able to make mistakes, because
you can make mistakes. I've made horrors in your hand, but
what happens is that when I don' t make mistakes, if I make
mistakes, believe me I' mthe first one to come and tell you
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I' m sorry. I'm gonna be the first one I want
to cry ass if I have to, because it touched me. I have
done it because it corresponds to me, because I understand that it is my
right if I really did hurt youwith my actions that I have to do,
with my actions prove that I repentand that you deserve that repentance that
I am going to deserve the forgivenessthat you are granting me. So,
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at least that' s what Ido and how much it has to do
with what you deserve or what youwant. With that, well, or
I don' t rule it outfor myself. To ask that I was
going to go about that the truth. I am a person tauro ay love,
lauro of April I say so farof May forgiveness even more. She
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knows that yes, yes, yes, look hard, I' m a
little hardheaded. Actually, I haveto admit. It' s something I
work every day. I can tellyou that the carla before was a person
who didn' t forgive you Youdid it to me once and it happened
to me that I could erase youfrom my life like you never existed.
It doesn' t matter that youwere my relative. If you were a
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friend or a couple, I don' t care. Yes already now I
am a person that I have changeda lot, specifically that I am very
assertive. I used to demand xhey, but I wasn' t communicating
my needs. Then the truth.The other isn' t guessing how hand.
This can' t be so toxic. Right. So I, for
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one, am a very assertive person. Many people will be able to see
an assertive person as a person andthis one is believed to be more,
or this one is believed to bepunching him or thinks that because I'
ve been told, it' sa form of sect. I am a
person who I am very assertive andespecially with my interpersonal relationships. Of me
saying what I like, what Idon' t like, what hurts me
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and won' t do to you, what gives me smells okay eye with
this what hurts me, what hurtsme and what weighs me down. Yeah,
so you don' t allude toignorance, and then I said I
didn' t know that crutched you. Ah, but I' m going
to say one thing outside the Chamber, too. We were just talking about
the fact that permit production, production, can bring me a little water for
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war. Lu camias you' reloathing that it was gravity forgiveness. Stay
a friend Look. I used tosay that the people you least know are
the people you have a second chanceof age at, precisely because maybe they
don' t have the whole contextof the exact situation, because you still
don' t spend when they're twenty years of relationship, no matter
the kind of obviously, nature ofthe relationship. And I' m going
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down there with the second chapter thatyou' re going to see. By
the way, thank you. Hedoesn' t like you that much,
and I said that the person whodoesn' t take the time to see
me hurt then doesn' t deserveto be in my life, because the
truth is that if you give becauseI say it a context and as you
say, I' m assertive withyou, I' m leaving you,
you know that yes that no andyou, like I gave you forward,
I brought you like a jerk.The truth is, I' m not
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giving you a second chance. No, and I' m gonna tell you
one thing, one thing is me, no, it' s one thing
to forgive and another to be ina second chance. I can tell you
nothing. I don' t forgiveyou. I don' t, because
we all got interesting mistakes. Ifnow, if I don' t see
an apology, if I don't see an apology without being and if
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I don' t see changes inyour habits, in the way you relate
to me, I won' tgive it to you, I' ll
get it out of my life becauselife is very difficult, too much not
the truth. We' re here, I can talk for all three of
us. We three don' tpay everything, we live alone, we
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are women who threw m We don' t have time for good I make
disclaimer I don' t mean thatif you' re not empowered, you
can' t get over it.No. What I mean is that you
have to learn to know your worthfrom wherever you are who you are and
what you have to deal with orthat' s whether or not that person
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deserves a place in your life.You don' t have to hold on
to that It' s costing you. Sure, it' s costing you.
So the truth is, whatever youdo to me, I think he
' s gonna talk more about youthan about me. Now, if I
' m giving you the tools sothat you don' t lay an egg
on me and whatever you want,you proceed to do any kind of popcorn
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to my detriment. Obviously, I' m going to tell you where the
nearest door is, and I'm going to take this one, I
' m going to tell you arestative vesion and I forgive you and everything,
but it' s not going,because it' s coming a while
and I think we' re goingto try it in a very similar situation.
We' re at an age wherejust like you say. It'
s hard for us to hold whowe are, because we' re women
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who stand next to what we believe, with another card in their hands.
I vote for it already and you, and you then on it, because
for me it doesn' t have, it doesn' t have to be
anything to do with bible pay,but it has everything that is worth at
the same time, because the truthis that it has cost me a lot
to defend the woman, it hascost me a lot to save her,
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it has told me a lot tokeep her fierce what she is. Then
it takes me a lot every dayto stay, to genuir authentic to who
I am and what every day tellsus that don' t be like that,
don' t be ch you're too much. Then you know
what you have to deal with.Everything looks, but I' m going
to tell you a sheath has verystrong. That' s what I tell
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you, I mean, every daya battle with the seal is fine.
The seal is really fine, Imean, I won' t be too
much. No. So, whenyou have all that question before you every
day, I can' t havesomeone in my life who would also put
that doubt to me about the doubtsthat I already have. That' s
gonna tell you where he has itis that I already have it. Then
I' m also going to takeyours already double the double doubt then so
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that you' re going to havea person in your life that' s
adding more doubt than you' reconstantly having, and that when someone does
something to you, I don't know why I don' t know
if it' s going to haveto do with tying up with insecurity.
For a certain point, I havefound myself in situations where I have put
myself in question and I say herewhat you do if you stop mouthing that
I don' t know anything,but it' s as I want.
They use it, because the factthat I wear provocative clothes, because I
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like it, because I enjoy itfor me doesn' t mean I'
m giving you. Excuse me don' t you, allow me to have
you give me a broken sheath,because the truth isn' t you,
that is you can' t understandthat you understand everything about me because I
put on these clothes. If youunderstand me then the truth is that that
happens to me too with the approachethat men have towards a woman like us.
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Of course we have a lot ofmale energy, that we have a
lot of energy as intimidating, thatthe devil doesn' t love you anymore
and I' ll tell you somethingisn' t that you want to know
more about the account. What happensis that more the point, the point,
of the point of life that youstumble into life is that you avoid
tripping over the same rock again andthat if you stumble over the same rock,
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you drive is not the same asthe first time you stumbled. That
' s what life is based on, because in life you' re going
to spend it giving you guayazo andif you didn' t get up with
the last guayano, you' regoing to keep coming out of the same
guaya until you get lost We learnthat experience, that is, falls from
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the kill, but that you saidabout how many times a woman and we
' re because we' re inthe feminas. True, of course,
clandes effective perspective with knowledge of causetruth, because I cannot speak from the
male perspective. Maybe at some pointyou have a male guest. I don
' t know, you can cry, but what I mean is that the
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moment a person tells you that you' re too much, that you span
a lot of space, that youput yourself in this one you provoked this
or that thing, you believe ita lot, and you said that you
said ah you want to know morethan anything else on the count, more
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on the count. Oh, it' s not there, no, uh,
not there, and learn to leaveand learn to get second chances too.
It' s also knowing how toleave exactly. And I' m
not talking about making the other giveit to you yourself when a person lays
an egg knowing you won' ttake egg type? No, what kind
of egg size thickness? You giveyourself the chance to me and tell me
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you know what I' m goingto learn to know how to go,
you have to know how to followand that second chance. You' re
not treating the other person. Hetreats you by giving it to you.
Yeah, you, you' retelling yourself because you bet straight, you
' re choosing You over the otherperson, because because you say wow.
Yeah. Maybe I' ve givenhim several chances, or maybe this is
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the time to give me, thechance of me so that that' s
not the person for me and thenthe second chance. I' m giving
it to myself to look for someonewho does know how to value what I
give. Or that of what Iam looking for because sometimes we love him
the second chance of person who unfortunatelywill not give you what you were not
asked for. Not them not thatI can' t and that then tells
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you I didn' t ask forwhat you gave me good, forgive you
because I would take you away andyou forgave me because you wanted to.
But that' s what I'm telling you. So many times they
tell the truth that if that's how mature ab la asks you,
then you decide not to give itand he' ll tell you something.
Someone, a person I love verymuch, told me that the magnificent things
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of life are on the other sideof fear. Yeah, 100% I
tell you something Sometimes you make decisionslike that to leave a place, to
give yourself a second chance. Sothat' s fear, that wall,
fear, and I would say thatmaking that decision and how bad there is,
because everything that comes after the mostdifficult heart samurai of era, the
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empty amadi is questioning, already ortomatoes. It' s always everyone comes
back and comes back to you andthe call is about after 12 o'
clock you understand and the avo fallsand the next day you battle with wow
why you did it. You did, and I' m gonna tell you
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something. Yes, you did theother day remember that in the end the
power has it all, even ifyou fall back, you are the one
who has the power to rebuild yourselfagain, regardless of whether you have fallen
because you are going to keep fallingthe problem. I didn' t keep
bumping into each other constantly on thesame rock and now I come up with
questions. There, yes, Ialso have questions that seem to be raison
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d'être of those wrong reasonsor reasons why it gives a second chance.
I' m going to put awrong reason for giving a second pose,
if it' s the one thatisn' t love. Those are
not the reasons. Oh, Ithink he can really change. Then my
love you can change it because asmy love is pure and I am a
being of light, or I cancome to light it as if it were
a banking preference. That' sthe craziest thing for me and it'
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s happened to me. I've done it because not being alone is
one of the worst reasons why youwant to give someone a second chance,
because you don' t want tobe alone, because there he comes,
because you can' t be withyou. What you have so bad or
that you have to work so hardon You what you are going to fret
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exactly that you do not want infront of You or your past that you
prefer. You' re with aperson that you know isn' t good
for you. You' re alonewith yourself that you' re supposed to
be doing good on your own.Then that was to me an extremely non
- validity reason a lola. Ithink one reason might go more or less
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in that same line, of notbeing alone from when you feel that you
are not the people aha. Forme, I have to win. The
love I get. For me ithas been something that I have that I
am still working in general, notjust the relationships of a couple, because
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I was made to understand that lovingmyself was complicated, that loving myself was
very difficult, because I was verydifficult when you internalized that statement. So
much for believing this clear, believinguntil you get to a point where they
do anything to you and you saygood, is that the truth is that
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the emotion gives me a little attention. Oh, I' m very difficult.
Maybe that' s what I deserveand I remember the other days that
I don' t know what wetalked about, I don' t know
if it was about that your birthdaysoon, I don' t know and
that you told me. I knowI don' t tell you much,
but you know I love you andI told her. I mean, sir
and I' ve known Lola fora long time. I know who the
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wave is. I know how shehandles herself. I love her like she
does. I love how she isunderstood. I know she' ll get
into a plane. She needs herdeath to make her understand and if she
comes to me because she already needsto get some water and I already get
it, because when you love someone, you have to understand how they are
understood. I love my friends becauseI analyze them. I know how she
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' s every one of hers areand she tells me herself that wow,
even if I don' t tellyou a lot of hair, like I
told her. No friend, Iknow that you love me your way and
the way you love me is perfect, because you are being you and I
know that your way to write tome One day we' ll see.
It' s not because that dayyou need me and that day I'
m going to be for you youunderstand and for me that' s going
to be a friendship, because it' s not that we have to talk.
I told you that you know thattoday I need you or you need
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me and I go there. Yes, then I think that a message as
a general of what we have beenable to see in this conversation is that,
definitely, life is made of aseries of consecutive trippings that lead us
to a point where we can finallyaccept what we deserve and everything that is
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apart or deviates from that purpose thatwe have to be x hear, whatever
it looks like for you to knowwhen to go, know when to stay
and, above all, also tothank the good and the bad. Yeah,
we just appreciate the good stuff.If there' s a lot of
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good things going on and nothing else. We appreciate that We' ll never
be grateful when the jackpot arrives.It' s not that poor the biggest
and what takes you the most asa point, a point of climax in
life. I just want to bereborn. Of course, but you'
re not gonna reborn it, butit doesn' t break you, and
it' s comfort. Nobody grows. No, of course, you don
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' t believe it in comfort.Then I will always and I will say
it every time I remember God blessthe stone that my stumble, because it
is that I thank you 100%that without that I do not see to
look I that one who said thanksthe drop that spilled the glass. It
' s the seed of change youasked for. Of course, because until
you stumble, until your glass isoverflowed, you don' t say.
I have to deal with this matterand I believe it. I' ve
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got to grow up, I've got to handle myself better, I
' ve got to make better decisions, I' ve got to deal with
myself. It is correct that itis one of the most difficult things to
make peace. With you making peacewith your loneliness and that' s why
I congratulate you, because creating youwill embrace half an hour, you can
create spaces where dialogue opens, wherethe conversation begins that other people who are
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on the other side of the microphoneor phone, who can also understand that
we are all dealing with invisible battles. We' re all overcoming something,
whether it' s an ex oran illness, whether it' s the
family, a family, whether it' s a duel for a loss you
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' ve had, or we're all overcoming or on our way to
overcome something. Let' s bemore empathetic. Let us be grateful for
the moment we have with the peoplewe love. It doesn' t matter
if it' s little or much, I mean, the number of people
that I' ve heard and thatI don' t bother the eyes that
come to you that are people thatwon' t see me, that they
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won' t, because I can' t with that pressure. No.
No, no, no, I' m coming to your life. I
' ve got it I' mgonna take this moment. Now let'
s go now, then it's always, always, always important to
learn to give the other' ssecond chances, because you really have to
be empathetic, but also to giveyou second chances, so to grow up
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and put yourself in the place whereyou can. You know what or you
know that I can' t reallyeat half that they' re really gonna
follow you, because it' sso hot. Yes, please, oh
Olitas chaning something important. I mean, I don' t think we ever
got to board before we closed it. We' re not gonna give it
in the pattern, in the deliveryLook. We now have ten minutes for
the pattern and in the pattern weare going to give several questions of something
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important. They' ll check youout, go look for all their stories.
We want to read their stories.Here' s the crazy thing.
The novel" Bitch" has thatI' m saying I don' t
sign. This goes to Netfli.This hatred bring her here, pro-
wraggle her prophesily. If we leaveyou in our profile of the women,
instagram i, the mail of thewomen podcasts. There you can leave behind
Gmail, there you can leave yourstories for us read here dialogue about it
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and also invite them to come totell them. That' s either pimps
or new ones. Of course Ido. So, gentlemen, thank you
very much, follow us all overour platform. Follow Lolita, our first
guest here. Thank God and rememberand our boss that for six dollars they
' re going to have exclusive contentthat we' re going to record to
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you right now. We' regoing to raffle products, we' re
going to mess things up, we' re going to have a whatsapp group
and all that content. So nothing. This was the feminine episode w
They either to one more episode oftheir favorite female podcast the women with their
hosts Rosall and Rubio to Salome.She served was Mommy Law. Sir,
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today we have our first guest.She is the very special person for us,
apart from a great professional in ourfriend, she is a star for
us a pleasure to have her here, so with you it lite Carla Lora,
lady who can say before our friendand sister speaks, not that in
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my case really, I met withthese two monuments of Dominican mythology the same
day and here we will pass togather photo. Not that it says"
dwarf," go to the bossso they can see when we' re
raccooned paquí a and ay ay ayay ay ay ay ay? They want
those pictures to be when we metWe talked about that in Marullo' s
first episode of damage suit my love, because when we were going to take
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that photo, Rosalí took out thatpot of toast and baina and to all
said we go there, that oil, that oil go there. And welcome
back. Great Lola, to mewhat you are, you are a woman
' s rock, that is,you are like you represent, as so
much strength, so much vitality and, above all, you represent second chances
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A and a. It is thesubject that we have today, sir,
in the second opportunities for those whodo not know, Lola tell a little
bit of your story, for thosewho do not tell you and can notice
for us, can enter into matter. Who Lola is, why Lola happened
and why Lola had a second chanceor several. Well, the truth is,
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my Jurney, my journey of life, has been like everybody else'
s. He' s had hisdischarges and his casualties in my ca Some
of those casualties came with a disease. For other people who use it differently,
I was diagnosed with a type ofblood cancer when I was 20.
After that, I had two relapses. And the truth is that from two
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thousand fifteen to the present, manypeople say wow You' ve recovered and
thank God. I have since thetwo thousand twenty k Hans of Free and
emphasize that I remember the exact moment. We were swimming in a pool in
Santiago in ta that Lola told usthat it had fallen and the truth is
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that I think I' m goingto speak for Leiden and for me also
when I had a person that youlove a lot and that your habit is
to pass pods and like give youa moment like so much happiness that I
give you like a news like thatcrazy. There' s no way that
doesn' t hurt you and fuckyou and I' m gonna tell you
something I know Lolita, well lithium. We are still then I remember that
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in truth one of the things thatI can get the most out of that
moment that any other people who wouldhave might have been in that situation.
And I bunked it up a day- to- day snack, what a
job, what a college, thatis, it was always in constant motion
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and when this happened, I rememberthat you took a break and that'
s where the you wake up comesin. It comes, it comes to
wake up, it' s notjust that a disease comes into your life,
it' s that there' san awakening to wait for you,
I mean, everything can end atany time, I mean at any time
things can change. Then why doI have to keep pace with you,
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because I have to keep pace withyou. And one of the things I
can do the most, where Ican congratulate you the most, is that
she' s crazy at the time. Anyone could imagine. Not that she
wasn' t you, not thatyou didn' t see her on leave,
but what she did to me thatyou could fight that disease twice mad
was your attitude about the disease.You never saw Lolita on low, you
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touched her hair. We didn't prepare, that' s all he
shared that crazy journey, he openedhis eyes a lot of people because he
had someone with that condition and don' t say I mean, don'
t emma. Right now he doesn' t even want everything to be based
on that, because the truth isthat for me and something that inside the
way is, as far as possible, I try to always emphasize that,
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that they weren' t always cutemoments. The reason I decided to share
neither Jearene nor my story on socialmedia was precisely because you didn' t
see a person who got sick andthat was something that was very secret.
No one was talking about that photomayou don' t even mean it exactly.
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Everything was like Bath War. Soyou saw people or you were looking
for something on the Internet and allthat found you was something super depressing and
super like statistics mortality rates is prevalence. So, part of my therapeutic and
healing process was sharing my story and, through my platform, meeting other people
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who were going through similar situations.Or that, for example, I said
look, I lost my hair,but for Lopecia or look, I have
scars, but because I burned myselfor because I have lupus. I mean,
I was able to connect with alot of other people who, like
me, were going through situations thatthey marked before and a deposed, because
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for them it was their exact cross. And many times people like to come
old ay on that trip, soyou mentioned at the beginning that I told
you that you had fallen back.I had two chemos downstairs. I had
given myself a chemo about a weekbefore and these people told me we'
re going for a party in Santiago. I' m on my way,
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I' m on my own.I still hahaja, so I don'
t have two weeks of bow leftand I go not a drop of alcohol,
obviously, but I gave my partyand we' re going to get
the picture out there and that's what we got. Fabulous. I
remember a person like that and youdon' t think that person is sick.
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And so we all carry a crossthat no one has any idea,
no one has any idea, andsometimes people would say ay to me,
but if I was going through thissituation, I would be wrong. Or
I can' t complain. Notevery person' s problems are the biggest,
because it' s you who haveto see what you say. I
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' ll give you a sentence Itdoesn' t make me ten, your
five, that' s all.Oh, that' s why or that
' s why you do or younever know. Sometimes if you don'
t see that someone has a physicalproblem, you understand that that person sounds
good or so, I see youwith hair. Oh no, but Lolita,
you' re super healthy and youcan' t imagine or the disease
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was the simplest thing she ever lived. You know what I mean. I
could tell you what we talked about. I always lived something in my life
that for me has been the strongestthing I' ve ever lived in my
life. And there' s nothingfor me to compare to that. But
that' s true. You andyou can and you could see me and
you saw me laughing and you lookedat me calm. That' s why
no one imagines as much as Ihad a smile on someone' s face
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by the sea, that I hadsomeone with all their limbs, doesn'
t mean that person is okay.Yeah, onden we' re all here.
We' re all right, butI' m gonna get you out
of situations. What' s more, I' d tell you to cut
you short a little bit to agony. Of course that will help you at
the end of the day. Lolain this case, sir, and discleme
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the crazy one of mine is dying. Look and for you to see commitment,
we had already postponed the recording withhim because it was last week because
there was no quota and we saidhey today and I showed myself last night
and I said I don' tcare. I' ll get there with
everything and the good one. Iwish no one was still sick, who
was happy and left. Well,guilty was next on the bottom. Sometimes
you stayed until the end of thevideo, please, with 20 bass.
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How many times what or not toteledi, camiatuación, a tocecita, a
shot or yes love well, Iknow how we will reward something, we
will send you some peling. It' s a cool thing in that PoTA
that you have, tub what ithas, but yeah, that' s
basically what coming back to seriousness,I don' t think what it put
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in is what it really did orit was a milestone for you a before
and a after in your life wasa disease that was just making your body
sick, really, the packaging ofyour soul. But in the end your
soul is also soiled with a lotof energies, thoughts, intrusive pods,
negative pods, bouncing things. Okthey gave me the opportunity now, but
(08:58):
today I made tomorrow I return asimilar content, that is to say that
the mind of the human being isable to create a lot of thought,
like a destriction of oneself that wastotally crazy. So, how did you
mean, how did it go,how was that flap? Obviously, I
want to pass the second chances,but I want to know how that was
for you and how many second chancesit is at a time of your tentraratu
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t quito, ok Yo, I' m going to give Umgan gig months
of On the flat Limo that yousaid you thought you what happened to your
head. I think every time itwas a little different. The first time
it was like, okay, I' ve been through, I' ve
been through a very strong, strongclinical picture, of course, I already
had half a lung and I wassaying clearly that what that is is nothing.
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But I didn' t know howthe case was going to be a
character when you' ve already walkedthe way and it' s your turn
to pass it again and you knowwhat you' re going to do,
you know what you' re goingto do and you' re going with
another, with another perspective. Thethird time it happened to me. I
can tell you that it was verydifficult for me to have to lose my
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hair again, to have to startfrom being or, to have to go
back to that uncertainty. But Iknew it, too, and it was
something that had happened to me.On the other two occasions, you usually
have something true happening to you.Then I want to feel like me again.
But what happens when you don't know who that is anymore?
I ay mad devil, ay ayay, i mean the whole moment does
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come back then I, for example, when it touched me, i e,
last for a while outside of college, my goal was or that I
want to be healthy enough to goback to college. I went back to
the same thing. When I returnedto college, all my friends had graduated
how crazy he travels, so Ididn' t know anymore and nothing to
say to you too I was acompletely different reality. Apart from the fact
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that physically it couldn' t bethe same, I didn' t feel
as connected at the time all mylife as the career I was studying not
crazy, I felt identified. Thenfor the record, it was already over.
I mean, I was in mylast four months of the law career
and I felt extremely disconnected from therace that in the end I could obviously
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understand that it was not from therace itself, but from the life of
everything. I didn' t knowanymore I wasn' t the carla that
was sick before, because I'm going to tell you something, those
situations that change you, that markthat before and after, those internal processes
and those Pawpoo that you have togive yourself to recognize the person that I
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was before, hera parte and satano. I didn' t have or was
that person. So I' mnot the person I was before the canter,
but I' m not the personI was when I was. I
was like my perchemist in chemo,and I wasn' t the person from
when they told you, look whoI am? I' m who,
how, how I feel about thatone again. You guys didn' t
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happen to him that you had life, but tter and he says I miss
my energy. I took one thingthat you see you have a picture of
and you say that wow, Iwas so naive or I or I was
like, like, you know,you know, you know, at that
stage, it wasn' t thebad clau. But what if there'
s nothing, that is, ifyou don' t have to go back,
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ex how about if you really aren' t not going back, that
there' s no way that you, having gone through that fire again,
you' re the same neither yourskin nor your vexed mole, is that
what happens when you burn, whathappens your piece will have pros but is
destroyed. What are you gonna do? Your body understands or I have to
regenerate this which is damaged later pastwith your coughing mind. In the end,
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there' s really something he's coming back to. And that
was my conclusion at the end thework came after saying ok, who is
Carla now and what carla wants forher life, for a hundred percent,
with her career. And obviously I' m still fine, we follow him,
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but all day long we' regoing to keep discovering. But the
truth is that for me, yes, it was like what most marked me
in that second part, because alsowhen you last, your whole twenty practically
dealing with a disease and that youhave created a project that started by sharing
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that part of your story, youridentity as people. Disgraceful to that and
to me it was very difficult,because there were times that people just wanted
to talk to you about it orand it doesn' t bother me because
I already say it as if itwas a script, because that' s
not happening now. That was anex- patsh, literally you kind of.
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You must link up with that,but it' s still part of
Persia Mm- hmm It' snot who you are, but what I
am, then it' s okwho I am. If I don'
t have change, you don't, then what do I do.
Now true, apart from sharing herelive, we were talking about Damocles Aha
' s sword Give me that story, please, now we do, well.
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The history experts, please don't finish me c But basically I
was a tyrant named Dionysius of Sicily, who had a courtier named Damocles or
Damocless. Damocless was always a littlebit, as curious of the life led
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by the tyrant, who had manyriches, who had many servants, until
one day Dionysus tells him ok wewill change. At the end of the
day, after drinking and eating alreadyJuarez and other live philipp like, Damocles
looks up he realizes that he nolonger wanted what they were offering him,
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because above him there was a sword, a sword hanging only from a hair
or a hair from a horse's horse' s horse. Which means
it' s pretty fine truth thatat any moment you can touch it.
It' s a story or ayes, it' s a moral story
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that comes to tell you about thisone that the thank you Oys Greene on
the alhr Side we pretend that thingsare better for other people that happen to
you a lot, what are youthinking of that person? I, my
sword of Damocles, for example,is that I am not high. I
go twice a year to the doctorand still not to me, I mean
I have to wait ten years,that is, in the two thousand thirty.
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I' m being discharged. Youunderstand that at any time the sword
of Mocles can fall. We alllive with a moc sword all the time.
Since you have an ocu, that' s going to look different,
but we' re all always afraidthat they' ll hurt us, that
they' ll create things, thatthings won' t work out for us,
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that it' s going to bewrong for you, that you,
that it' s not going wellwith your personal relationships, man, that
your work isn' t going wellfor you either, that' s all
the time. We have doubts aboutthings, thinking that maybe the bad can
happen and all the time We havea sword because today I can be extremely
grateful, but tomorrow I can beafraid, fears of the past many times,
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at least it is one of myinternal struggles. Sometimes I don'
t want to repeat things from mypast. You understand then constantly me or
I' m questioning myself, orI' m or questioning the things that
happen around me and like I alwayswant to, like to evoke the fifth
leg, like for me many timesthe thing can' t just be.
Then understand that sometimes torments me becauseI or I want to add a meaning
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to what is happening. Or Idon' t feel like maybe you'
ll tell me no what but thatdoesn' t. That' s just
that color. There' s noproblem. I want to, like,
want to dig deeper into things thatsometimes don' t have that deep.
You know and that' s sometimesmy constant struggle And it' s for
the experience of the past, becauseyou don' t want to see yourself
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in the same circumstance that you avoidand sometimes you might predispose yourself in situations
or advance you what may happen.You worry, you worry too much only
about things that have happened to youbefore. And sometimes I' ll tell
you something. Sometimes you attract yourselfwith the mind, because those are wanting
to avoid something so much you areconditioned. You the exact thing, you
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don' t and energetically your bodyalready getting into ok This is going to
happen. This can' t belate. I mean, and I'
ve talked several times, I mean, it hasn' t happened to you.
He said he was going to belate and you' re late,
you haven' t spent it yourselfthat you screw up a table and after
the day he goes on his mouth. It' s just like that.
So what you say is that youeither think about everything or go over it.
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I don' t think it's that bad. I tell you
little a attention that I also haveI would say that more than bad,
perhaps it comes to ra there inunhealthy, many exactly unhealthy. I think
the important thing about you can recognizewhen it' s no longer healthy,
because I' m going to tellyou one thing. I' d hate
to keep Conchale' s whatte offand what would have happened. If I
had, if I ran over that, then you' d get over that.
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So that doesn' t surprise me, it' s exactly so that
it won' t happen to me. Then you understand where you have to
put yourself as a quota, notthat you say I already have. I
think there are simpler things in lifeand I just piss off my eyes a
little bit to realize in front ofyour eyes what it requires of complexity and
what it requires of that company.Yeah, I mean, there are things
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that really don' t come alongYou know what I mean. I think
it also happens when you give upa second chance at yourself. If you
in the past gave a second chanceand that second chance wasn' t taken
advantage of the way you wanted towait and you see the same circumstance and
you have to give another second chance. Either you don' t give or
you scare him very much. Youunderstand the cho, what happens is that
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I story you interrupt when we're doing things, so we' re
going in a lot of fear.We have to remember that we are children,
we are grown children, yes,literally the children yes hurt two then,
that emotion that you feel of aversionto something or that you refuse to
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let something happen. I think you' re conditioned Believe him, he'
s your hurt little girl. Now, you can' t take advantage of
that and you can' t takethat as a crutch, like, as
you' re told, everything isn' t always going to have an explanation.
And it' s okay that youdon' t have a little bit
of it can get him,'cause I' m gonna tell you something.
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There are people who say that andthat I' m sorry to the
one who told me that and itfeels like a was for you was stopping,
but let' s go upstairs.We have, for example, the
same thing as when people told himand you were a war. Oh,
you. You' re one.As everything goes through something and no,
ok no, the answer is notone for you to be a warrior.
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We' re both supposed to bein a fight and we' re almost
equal conditions in cancer is a tombolas, a literal Russian roulette. Today it
' s my turn, tomorrow it' s your turn. Children are born
with cancer. There' s areason for that, there' s a
teaching back. That' s notthat you' re looking for a meaning
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for your ability to cope with thesituation. Not that it' s something
else that everything goes through. No. There are no things that don'
t have my explanation. And themore we take power away from the things
that happen to us, the easierwe' re going to be able to
and I know it sounds nicer oreasier said than done, by the way,
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but it' s important for youto repeat that you hear not everything
is going to have an explanation.Not everyone will be able to take advantage
of the things presented to them.We' re not going to understand why
it happened to us. But simplyand simply follow, because what is the
alternative. No one doesn' tor what leaves it or if it follows
or lets you fall, I mean, there' s no other thing that
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told you to die, I mean, you said something about how I'
m worrying. But the word worryis good to divide it, because sometimes
you get preoccupied with something that youhave to blame as you want or want
you have to solve it as youwant? So why are you worrying about
going ahead with a whole thing that' s probably gonna happen to me three
times twice suffers twice, then it' s a little strong. I'
m the one who' s lookingfor reasons for everything. I don'
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t know if because, like havingentered into this spiritual subject, it has
caused the answers to come to meaha in a very different way from that
of the human. I don't know if you' re going common
basic or it' s not exactlyspiritual, but I' ve had tools
through the thing, I' vebeen able to get to the reasons for
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the thing. And when those reasonscome to me or they get messages to
me through people who, for example, would never tell me a thing like
that or by people I don't even know who did something to me
that I say no, because there' s no way that everything is.
Because yes, then God, theUniverse, your ancestors have a way of
manifesting themselves in your life as well. And the truth is, when someone
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tells you that things happen for areason, I' d say that more
than anything, there' s noway that you were the woman that you
were now. If you hadn't gone through that whole way, then
for me it' s your reason, because you don' t know how
many people you' re saving hislife. You don' t know if
you didn' t come the worldmakes a simple and common lawyer. You
came to be a lawyer who,besides having power of opinion and besides having
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the power of opinion, is calledwhen you have like the one where he
talks, yes, you have thegift of expressing yourself as you prey on
yourself and you add a crazy crazybattle to that. That' s the
same as your life Yes, thetruth, but that can be a lot
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of clear people, but you can' t, and that' s why
I' m trying to tell youabout it, because we put so much
on it and me and Carla NicolGarcia the hour today pleads guilty. Yes,
at some point, of course youknow I' m a certified coach.
Yes, and there was a timein life when everyone wanted to make
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coach and everyone wanted r fashion withthe and that was an engine and we
were all doing the same thing andthey gave with the purpose of life,
the purpose of life. Monetizing meto a workshop and that and not that
I do not believe in the purposeof life, but we put on,
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we put on such a great pressurethat we have to find ours as if
it were singular, our purpose oflife, when for me the purpose of
life changes as you grow. Sure, yeah, and you believe in things.
My purpose of yesterday is not thesame as today and life is presenting
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you with situations that are making youchange your purpose. You need the media.
Sure, but I have questions.Tell me we already talked about obviously,
when they give us second chances.But let' s turn them around
a little bit and go there whenwe get second chances. There' s
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little rule there. What' she fixing up with? You measure how
much, how many opportunities or foryou you give a chance, a person
' s second chance, with whatyou measure that I, personally, the
girls you' re playing right now. Yeah, I' m already hurt,
friend, and you can' teven complain about doing this episode with
toy erection. Yeah, yeah,well. I think one of the things
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I look at mainly is that youshow me, or me, in a
way. One has to put proof. You understand evidence that puts you to
show me that you genuinely regret havingcommitted and that you deserve a second chance,
because it' s very easy justto say oh forgive me bad mine,
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I' m not going to dothat to you again tomorrow. You
understand a lot I mean, andI say it because whoever' s suffering
what happened overnight, my pain isn' t going to go away. I
understand then for that pain to goaway and for forgiveness to be genuine because
one thing that I want forgives youfrom we go and we' re going
to stick together and that thing thatmy heart genuinely peaces you with what happened
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and understands that already in the futureyou won' t do it again.
But for that I need evidence.I need proof, not by word of
mouth, because I don' tdo anything. Not the words pipe,
the words get married, the windtakes them. Of course I' m
lying to you,' cause thekisses fall off exactly. So now I,
too, when I have given secondsor portunities, have given them by
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being aware, being sure that theother person is showing me that even if
this person returns and makes the mistake. And well, let' s go
into the circle, which is oneof the circles I want to break with
because in the past I forgave alot, because when I had so much
greatness in the other people and whenyou have the heart so pure to you
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it is very difficult. He doesn' t see purity in other people happens,
but many times you' re seeing. Your purity projected on the other.
It' s not the purity ofthe other. Because and not that
doesn' t mean that people aren' t able to make mistakes, because
you can make mistakes. I've made horrors in your hand, but
what happens is that when I don' t make mistakes, if I make
mistakes, believe me I' mthe first one to come and tell you
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I' m sorry. I'm gonna be the first one I want
to cry ass if I have to, because it touched me. I have
done it because it corresponds to me, because I understand that it is my
right if I really did hurt youwith my actions that I have to do,
with my actions prove that I repentand that you deserve that repentance that
I am going to deserve the forgivenessthat you are granting me. So,
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at least that' s what Ido and how much it has to do
with what you deserve or what youwant. With that, well, or
I don' t rule it outfor myself. To ask that I was
going to go about that the truth. I am a person tauro ay love,
lauro of April I say so farof May forgiveness even more. She
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knows that yes, yes, yes, look hard, I' m a
little hardheaded. Actually, I haveto admit. It' s something I
work every day. I can tellyou that the carla before was a person
who didn' t forgive you Youdid it to me once and it happened
to me that I could erase youfrom my life like you never existed.
It doesn' t matter that youwere my relative. If you were a
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friend or a couple, I don' t care. Yes already now I
am a person that I have changeda lot, specifically that I am very
assertive. I used to demand xhey, but I wasn' t communicating
my needs. Then the truth.The other isn' t guessing how hand.
This can' t be so toxic. Right. So I, for
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one, am a very assertive person. Many people will be able to see
an assertive person as a person andthis one is believed to be more,
or this one is believed to bepunching him or thinks that because I'
ve been told, it' sa form of sect. I am a
person who I am very assertive andespecially with my interpersonal relationships. Of me
saying what I like, what Idon' t like, what hurts me
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and won' t do to you, what gives me smells okay eye with
this what hurts me, what hurtsme and what weighs me down. Yeah,
so you don' t allude toignorance, and then I said I
didn' t know that crutched you. Ah, but I' m going
to say one thing outside the Chamber, too. We were just talking about
the fact that permit production, production, can bring me a little water for
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war. Lu camias you' reloathing that it was gravity forgiveness. Stay
a friend Look. I used tosay that the people you least know are
the people you have a second chanceof age at, precisely because maybe they
don' t have the whole contextof the exact situation, because you still
don' t spend when they're twenty years of relationship, no matter
the kind of obviously, nature ofthe relationship. And I' m going
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down there with the second chapter thatyou' re going to see. By
the way, thank you. Hedoesn' t like you that much,
and I said that the person whodoesn' t take the time to see
me hurt then doesn' t deserveto be in my life, because the
truth is that if you give becauseI say it a context and as you
say, I' m assertive withyou, I' m leaving you,
you know that yes that no andyou, like I gave you forward,
I brought you like a jerk.The truth is, I' m not
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giving you a second chance. No, and I' m gonna tell you
one thing, one thing is me, no, it' s one thing
to forgive and another to be ina second chance. I can tell you
nothing. I don' t forgiveyou. I don' t, because
we all got interesting mistakes. Ifnow, if I don' t see
an apology, if I don't see an apology without being and if
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I don' t see changes inyour habits, in the way you relate
to me, I won' tgive it to you, I' ll
get it out of my life becauselife is very difficult, too much not
the truth. We' re here, I can talk for all three of
us. We three don' tpay everything, we live alone, we
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are women who threw m We don' t have time for good I make
disclaimer I don' t mean thatif you' re not empowered, you
can' t get over it.No. What I mean is that you
have to learn to know your worthfrom wherever you are who you are and
what you have to deal with orthat' s whether or not that person
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deserves a place in your life.You don' t have to hold on
to that It' s costing you. Sure, it' s costing you.
So the truth is, whatever youdo to me, I think he
' s gonna talk more about youthan about me. Now, if I
' m giving you the tools sothat you don' t lay an egg
on me and whatever you want,you proceed to do any kind of popcorn
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to my detriment. Obviously, I' m going to tell you where the
nearest door is, and I'm going to take this one, I
' m going to tell you arestative vesion and I forgive you and everything,
but it' s not going,because it' s coming a while
and I think we' re goingto try it in a very similar situation.
We' re at an age wherejust like you say. It'
s hard for us to hold whowe are, because we' re women
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who stand next to what we believe, with another card in their hands.
I vote for it already and you, and you then on it, because
for me it doesn' t have, it doesn' t have to be
anything to do with bible pay,but it has everything that is worth at
the same time, because the truthis that it has cost me a lot
to defend the woman, it hascost me a lot to save her,
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it has told me a lot tokeep her fierce what she is. Then
it takes me a lot every dayto stay, to genuir authentic to who
I am and what every day tellsus that don' t be like that,
don' t be ch you're too much. Then you know
what you have to deal with.Everything looks, but I' m going
to tell you a sheath has verystrong. That' s what I tell
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you, I mean, every daya battle with the seal is fine.
The seal is really fine, Imean, I won' t be too
much. No. So, whenyou have all that question before you every
day, I can' t havesomeone in my life who would also put
that doubt to me about the doubtsthat I already have. That' s
gonna tell you where he has itis that I already have it. Then
I' m also going to takeyours already double the double doubt then so
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that you' re going to havea person in your life that' s
adding more doubt than you' reconstantly having, and that when someone does
something to you, I don't know why I don' t know
if it' s going to haveto do with tying up with insecurity.
For a certain point, I havefound myself in situations where I have put
myself in question and I say herewhat you do if you stop mouthing that
I don' t know anything,but it' s as I want.
They use it, because the factthat I wear provocative clothes, because I
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like it, because I enjoy itfor me doesn' t mean I'
m giving you. Excuse me don' t you, allow me to have
you give me a broken sheath,because the truth isn' t you,
that is you can' t understandthat you understand everything about me because I
put on these clothes. If youunderstand me then the truth is that that
happens to me too with the approachethat men have towards a woman like us.
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Of course we have a lot ofmale energy, that we have a
lot of energy as intimidating, thatthe devil doesn' t love you anymore
and I' ll tell you somethingisn' t that you want to know
more about the account. What happensis that more the point, the point,
of the point of life that youstumble into life is that you avoid
tripping over the same rock again andthat if you stumble over the same rock,
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you drive is not the same asthe first time you stumbled. That
' s what life is based on, because in life you' re going
to spend it giving you guayazo andif you didn' t get up with
the last guayano, you' regoing to keep coming out of the same
guaya until you get lost We learnthat experience, that is, falls from
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the kill, but that you saidabout how many times a woman and we
' re because we' re inthe feminas. True, of course,
clandes effective perspective with knowledge of causetruth, because I cannot speak from the
male perspective. Maybe at some pointyou have a male guest. I don
' t know, you can cry, but what I mean is that the
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moment a person tells you that you' re too much, that you span
a lot of space, that youput yourself in this one you provoked this
or that thing, you believe ita lot, and you said that you
said ah you want to know morethan anything else on the count, more
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on the count. Oh, it' s not there, no, uh,
not there, and learn to leaveand learn to get second chances too.
It' s also knowing how toleave exactly. And I' m
not talking about making the other giveit to you yourself when a person lays
an egg knowing you won' ttake egg type? No, what kind
of egg size thickness? You giveyourself the chance to me and tell me
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you know what I' m goingto learn to know how to go,
you have to know how to followand that second chance. You' re
not treating the other person. Hetreats you by giving it to you.
Yeah, you, you' retelling yourself because you bet straight, you
' re choosing You over the otherperson, because because you say wow.
Yeah. Maybe I' ve givenhim several chances, or maybe this is
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the time to give me, thechance of me so that that' s
not the person for me and thenthe second chance. I' m giving
it to myself to look for someonewho does know how to value what I
give. Or that of what Iam looking for because sometimes we love him
the second chance of person who unfortunatelywill not give you what you were not
asked for. Not them not thatI can' t and that then tells
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you I didn' t ask forwhat you gave me good, forgive you
because I would take you away andyou forgave me because you wanted to.
But that' s what I'm telling you. So many times they
tell the truth that if that's how mature ab la asks you,
then you decide not to give itand he' ll tell you something.
Someone, a person I love verymuch, told me that the magnificent things
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of life are on the other sideof fear. Yeah, 100% I
tell you something Sometimes you make decisionslike that to leave a place, to
give yourself a second chance. Sothat' s fear, that wall,
fear, and I would say thatmaking that decision and how bad there is,
because everything that comes after the mostdifficult heart samurai of era, the
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empty amadi is questioning, already ortomatoes. It' s always everyone comes
back and comes back to you andthe call is about after 12 o'
clock you understand and the avo fallsand the next day you battle with wow
why you did it. You did, and I' m gonna tell you
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something. Yes, you did theother day remember that in the end the
power has it all, even ifyou fall back, you are the one
who has the power to rebuild yourselfagain, regardless of whether you have fallen
because you are going to keep fallingthe problem. I didn' t keep
bumping into each other constantly on thesame rock and now I come up with
questions. There, yes, Ialso have questions that seem to be raison
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d'être of those wrong reasonsor reasons why it gives a second chance.
I' m going to put awrong reason for giving a second pose,
if it' s the one thatisn' t love. Those are
not the reasons. Oh, Ithink he can really change. Then my
love you can change it because asmy love is pure and I am a
being of light, or I cancome to light it as if it were
a banking preference. That' sthe craziest thing for me and it'
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s happened to me. I've done it because not being alone is
one of the worst reasons why youwant to give someone a second chance,
because you don' t want tobe alone, because there he comes,
because you can' t be withyou. What you have so bad or
that you have to work so hardon You what you are going to fret
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exactly that you do not want infront of You or your past that you
prefer. You' re with aperson that you know isn' t good
for you. You' re alonewith yourself that you' re supposed to
be doing good on your own.Then that was to me an extremely non
- validity reason a lola. Ithink one reason might go more or less
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in that same line, of notbeing alone from when you feel that you
are not the people aha. Forme, I have to win. The
love I get. For me ithas been something that I have that I
am still working in general, notjust the relationships of a couple, because
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I was made to understand that lovingmyself was complicated, that loving myself was
very difficult, because I was verydifficult when you internalized that statement. So
much for believing this clear, believinguntil you get to a point where they
do anything to you and you saygood, is that the truth is that
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the emotion gives me a little attention. Oh, I' m very difficult.
Maybe that' s what I deserveand I remember the other days that
I don' t know what wetalked about, I don' t know
if it was about that your birthdaysoon, I don' t know and
that you told me. I knowI don' t tell you much,
but you know I love you andI told her. I mean, sir
and I' ve known Lola fora long time. I know who the
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wave is. I know how shehandles herself. I love her like she
does. I love how she isunderstood. I know she' ll get
into a plane. She needs herdeath to make her understand and if she
comes to me because she already needsto get some water and I already get
it, because when you love someone, you have to understand how they are
understood. I love my friends becauseI analyze them. I know how she
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' s every one of hers areand she tells me herself that wow,
even if I don' t tellyou a lot of hair, like I
told her. No friend, Iknow that you love me your way and
the way you love me is perfect, because you are being you and I
know that your way to write tome One day we' ll see.
It' s not because that dayyou need me and that day I'
m going to be for you youunderstand and for me that' s going
to be a friendship, because it' s not that we have to talk.
I told you that you know thattoday I need you or you need
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me and I go there. Yes, then I think that a message as
a general of what we have beenable to see in this conversation is that,
definitely, life is made of aseries of consecutive trippings that lead us
to a point where we can finallyaccept what we deserve and everything that is
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apart or deviates from that purpose thatwe have to be x hear, whatever
it looks like for you to knowwhen to go, know when to stay
and, above all, also tothank the good and the bad. Yeah,
we just appreciate the good stuff.If there' s a lot of
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good things going on and nothing else. We appreciate that We' ll never
be grateful when the jackpot arrives.It' s not that poor the biggest
and what takes you the most asa point, a point of climax in
life. I just want to bereborn. Of course, but you'
re not gonna reborn it, butit doesn' t break you, and
it' s comfort. Nobody grows. No, of course, you don
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' t believe it in comfort.Then I will always and I will say
it every time I remember God blessthe stone that my stumble, because it
is that I thank you 100%that without that I do not see to
look I that one who said thanksthe drop that spilled the glass. It
' s the seed of change youasked for. Of course, because until
you stumble, until your glass isoverflowed, you don' t say.
I have to deal with this matterand I believe it. I' ve
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got to grow up, I've got to handle myself better, I
' ve got to make better decisions, I' ve got to deal with
myself. It is correct that itis one of the most difficult things to
make peace. With you making peacewith your loneliness and that' s why
I congratulate you, because creating youwill embrace half an hour, you can
create spaces where dialogue opens, wherethe conversation begins that other people who are
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on the other side of the microphoneor phone, who can also understand that
we are all dealing with invisible battles. We' re all overcoming something,
whether it' s an ex oran illness, whether it' s the
family, a family, whether it' s a duel for a loss you
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' ve had, or we're all overcoming or on our way to
overcome something. Let' s bemore empathetic. Let us be grateful for
the moment we have with the peoplewe love. It doesn' t matter
if it' s little or much, I mean, the number of people
that I' ve heard and thatI don' t bother the eyes that
come to you that are people thatwon' t see me, that they
(43:14):
won' t, because I can' t with that pressure. No.
No, no, no, I' m coming to your life. I
' ve got it I' mgonna take this moment. Now let'
s go now, then it's always, always, always important to
learn to give the other' ssecond chances, because you really have to
be empathetic, but also to giveyou second chances, so to grow up
(43:36):
and put yourself in the place whereyou can. You know what or you
know that I can' t reallyeat half that they' re really gonna
follow you, because it' sso hot. Yes, please, oh
Olitas chaning something important. I mean, I don' t think we ever
got to board before we closed it. We' re not gonna give it
in the pattern, in the deliveryLook. We now have ten minutes for
the pattern and in the pattern weare going to give several questions of something
(43:57):
important. They' ll check youout, go look for all their stories.
We want to read their stories.Here' s the crazy thing.
The novel" Bitch" has thatI' m saying I don' t
sign. This goes to Netfli.This hatred bring her here, pro-
wraggle her prophesily. If we leaveyou in our profile of the women,
instagram i, the mail of thewomen podcasts. There you can leave behind
Gmail, there you can leave yourstories for us read here dialogue about it
(44:22):
and also invite them to come totell them. That' s either pimps
or new ones. Of course Ido. So, gentlemen, thank you
very much, follow us all overour platform. Follow Lolita, our first
guest here. Thank God and rememberand our boss that for six dollars they
' re going to have exclusive contentthat we' re going to record to
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you right now. We' regoing to raffle products, we' re
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