Brian Mastre

Just hours after Jodi Huisentruit was abducted on her way to anchor the morning news at KIMT-TV in Mason City, IA on June 27, 1995, her colleague Brian Mastre had the difficult job of delivering the news to their viewers that Jodi was missing.

In this episode of the FindJodi podcast, Brian reflected on the challenges of working in the KIMT newsroom back in the summer of 1995, reporting on a horrific crime that happened to a young colleague. He also shared his thoughts about the high-profile case that remains unsolved more than 26 years after his first report.

Episode Transcript

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Before sunrise on a mild summer morningin June nineteen ninety five, a twenty
seven year old television news anchor namedJody Husten Trutz hurriedly left her apartment in
Mason City, Iowa, headed forwork, but she never arrived, and

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her disappearance has never been solved.In two thousand and three, two television
news reporters created finds Jody dot Com, a website dedicated to preserving Jody's memory
and keeping her case alive. Thisis the official Finds Jody Podcast. Welcome

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back to the Finds Jody Podcast.I'm Scott Fuller. Sometimes in Jody's we
can get so wrapped up in factsand timelines and theories, we can lose
context of the day to day lifeand sort of the person that a victim
was. She had a unique careerthat relatively few people have, and that
she was on television. But Jody, just like everybody else, had a

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social life, friends and family.In Jody, you have a twenty seven
year old young woman away from home, aspiring to goals, in search of
happiness and finding her place in theworld. At the end of the day,
that's what we're all looking for.Some of the best people to learn
from about Jody's daily life in thoseyears then were her colleagues. Brian Mastery

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is currently an investigative reporter and anchorfor WoT W, NBC's affiliate in Omaha,
Nebraska, but in nineteen ninety five, when Jody housing True was abducted,
he'd been working at Jody's station inMason City for a few years and
had increasingly been working alongside Jody upto the summer where she disappeared. On
this episode, Find Jody, teammember Caroline Lowe interviews Brian about his experiences

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from back in the day and thereporting work he's done on Jody's case in
the twenty six and a half yearssince that's coming up next. Mason City
is about ten miles from my hometownof clear Lake, Iowa. So I
went to college in Minnesota and Iinterned at KIMT in Mason City in the

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summer of ninety one. It wasone of those places where you actually were
on air interning and that got tobe a few hundred bucks, you know,
every week. Terms of internships,it was pretty attractive. You actually
got a resume tape out of thedeal, and we were able to maybe
carve your path, but I stillhad school left. After that summer.
I remember getting a call, youknow, will we have an opening,

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will you come work here? ButI was like, I still haven't graduated
yet. I'd kind of like tograduate. In the meantime, I covered
like the Twins World Series as astringer, which was pretty neat to be
able to be into the Metrodome atthat time and covering a world series as
some twenty year old kid. Andthen when I finished up school, then
they hired me and the fall ofnineteen ninety one and just started in as

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a general assign reporter. A fewmonths later a main anchor had left,
and then I got promoted to beingthe six and ten o'clock anchor there.
So it's pretty interested. A lotof people got to see me grow up.
At the same time, I waskind of learning the business. I
grew up in the area. Thisis the station I watched, and then
now I'm kind of in charge ofit, so I had to I felt

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I had to work pretty hard toget people to trust some kid telling them
the news. It was your hometownstation. It was the station you watched
growing up, right. I remembergoing there for like a career fair where
you would meet some of the peoplein high school. You know, you
go from there to a community college, maybe a bank, you know,
those sorts of things, and getan idea of what was going on,

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and then here now I'm there kindof doing my thing, getting paid to
tell stories, which at the endof the day is a pretty good gig.
So Jody, who was a truestarted working KT in nineteen ninety three.
Were you anchoring at that point?In ninety three, I would have
been the six and ten o'clock anchorat that point. I believe I was
the executive producer too, so Ikind of was trying to help k I

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know, it seems kind of odd, but here I had a couple of
years of experience, so I'm helpingsome of the new people try to craft
their stories and learn tricks of thetrade and how to tell a better story
and maybe how to contact sources thatsort of thing. Jody kind of cross
pass with her not a ton,So I'm working in the evenings, she's

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working in the mornings, and Istarted to see her more. Maybe in
ninety four, all of us wantedto try to advance our careers, and
I think she was hearing back frompeople where she would send her resume to
news directors, and I think theywanted to see not just her anchoring,
but they realized that she wasn't reallyreporting very much, and so I started

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to work with her more because shewas trying to do stories and get those
on the six and ten o'clock newsso that she would have a reel of
her not just anchoring but also reporting. What kind of reporting did she primarily
do them? We've had a lotof questions about whether she ever did investigate
a reporting What do you remember aboutthe kind of reporting you coached her on
and what she was doing. Jodytypically was doing stories that were, you

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know, job fairs, more featurestories is what she was doing. Because
part of it was that she kindof had a really short window to try
to do her stories because she anchoredthe morning show and then did the midday
news, so she kind of hadsome time maybe in between the morning show

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and midday and maybe after lunch totry to do the story and then maybe
write it up in her free timeor maybe the next morning and try to
turn it around. So there isn'treally a lot of hard news or breaking
news that maybe is happening before lunch. So a lot of the stories she
was doing were on people in featurestories, not real hard hitting, probably

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stories. If she'd work ahead onmaybe the next day type of things or
features. Yeah, if it wasn'tsomething that was happening that day, she
would work ahead. Like a blooddrive that was happening that day, you
had to pretty much do something thatday. It would seem odd if you
saved it. But other things,maybe the woman who makes a thousand quilts
every week or something like that wouldbe easy to hold that later in the

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week. How well did you getto know Jody outside of work? I
know in smaller stations there's often it'salmost like a family for a lot of
the people there, because you arein a smaller market. What was it
like in terms of your socializing withDid you socialize with or did you go
to, say, her birthday party? No, I didn't go to her
birthday party. We didn't really socializemuch on the weekends. I know Robin,

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my co anchor, did quite abit, but we kind of were
in different circles for the most part. A lot of newsroom folks hung out
together, but Jody didn't necessarily hangaround with the newsroom folks aside from Robin,
and so we didn't really cross pathsvery often. On the weekend,
sometimes there would be something that wouldkind of cross with maybe as somebody in

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the newsroom was having to get together, and we might end up stop and
buy or something like that, butusually it was more more work relationship than
anything. If we can go backto that morning June twenty seventh, nineteen
ninety five, do you remember howyou first heard that Jody might be missing
and walk us through how things wentfor the next few hours. Yeah,

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I got a call from I thinkit was one of my colleagues. I
don't remember which colleague. Seems kindof odd when you look back at it
now, but I got a callthat morning from a colleague who said that
Jody hadn't shown up for work.And we knew that Jody had had a
golf outing the day before. Shewasn't always on time. She and tried

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to enjoy having a life even thoughyou had to get up super early.
So we didn't think it was foulplay or anything like that. We just
assumed that she had too good ofa time, was just maybe taken a
mental break and just decided not tocome into work. So I didn't think
twice. I knew it was inher character that if she just needed a

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break, she'd take it, oryou know, maybe stayed out too late,
maybe she was just calling in sick. It would have been a little
later mid morning when we were toldthat this is a big deal, this
is suspicious. It's not just someonesleeping in, it's foul play. I
knew I needed to get around ina hurry because normally I probably wouldn't go

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in until maybe one thirty two o'clock. And so I'm getting around and I'm
pretty sure I got there maybe justafter midday, so twelve to thirty,
quarter to one. Within a fewminutes, just talked to the bosses and
people who had been at the scene, and then put together a quick script.
And back in those days, wehad a camera in an old camera

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sitting up high up in the cornerof the newsroom. And then I just
typed up a script about forty secondsworth. That's what really made it.
Synk in As actually typing the wordsthat a colleague is missing and she had
been abducted from her apartment on theway to work, telling folks that expect

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an update. I think that afternoonwhen we learned that there is going to
be a news conference with Mason CityPolice. So I can remember, you
know, feeling the weight of thatmoment as I was trying to pass along
that information, realizing that even thoughit was personal, I needed to do

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my best to give it the urgencyand the respect that it deserved. As
far as you know, you werethe first person, at least in television
to report, to tell the viewersthat this person they normally would see at
the six am news and that themidday was missing and there were concerns.
As far as I can tell,yeah, we were the first ones that

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broke in. I remember driving bythe scene when I was on way to
work down Kentucky Avenue there and theapartments, and it was blocked off quite
a bit. I couldn't get veryclose, but I knew I needed to
get into work, and I knewwe'd had other people reporters that had been
down in there, so curiosity,I wanted to get close to kind of

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see it for myself, but Ialso knew I needed to get in and
start putting the news of the daytogether because this was the biggest story we'd
had in sometime. I mean,we're just twenty somethings trying to do good
work, and here we're now caughtin the middle of the investigation. Because
we all know who were the firstpeople that investigators zoom in on, right,

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it's the people who are closest tothe individual. So in the view
of the FBI and the view ofthe Division of Criminal Investigation, we were
suspects. And at the same time, we're trying to get information from these
folks who were wanting to interview usto find out what we can pass along

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is they were a break in thecase, Do we have a suspect?
All the kinds of things that youtry to put together. And on top
of that, we're getting calls fromthe network. CBS came that day to
do a story from like I believe, there's Chicago Bureau. We had twin
Cities stations, des Moines stations thatwere coming to do stories because Jody was

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from Minneapolis area. We're trying tobuy time because we know those first couple
of days, the first forty eighthours are so critical and tracking down leads
and getting the story out there.We knew it was in our best interest
to do interviews, So some ofwhat I'm saying now, a lot of
people wanted to know back then,what do you think happened? Who could

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have done this? What should bethe next step? So we're getting interviewed
by other journalists at the same time. Then we're trying to piece together the
story. What was it like asa male colleague to get that kind of
scrutiny as you describe, feel likeyou had to be potentially eliminated as somebody
who could be involved. I don'tknow if I really took it that ar
Snell. It was more shocking.I still remember I felt like it was

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a good good cop bad cop interviewin a conference room where the salespeople normally
meet at KIMT, where you hadone of the detectives trying to ask pretty
benign stuff like do you remember whatarm Jody would carry her purse? So
while you had somebody asking you whatshoulder a purse was on, then the

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other detective would jump in and wantto know if you were in a personal
relationship with the individual. So they'relooking for clues, I'm sure, trying
to figure out whether to rule somebodyout or to keep going after somebody.
They're trying to figure that out ratherquickly as well. So I didn't take
it personally. I knew they werejust doing their job. What was it

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like that summer? You were wearingwhite ribbons, if I remember correctly,
your colleagues missing, and you're coveringit as the biggest story in Mason City.
I don't remember how the ribbons cameabout. There was maybe it was
a viewer or something, I'm notsure, or I know, the yellow
ribbons that were put around trees,I think came from an individual at the

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local why put himself into the investigationat least and try and injected himself to
try to like foster support and getthe information out there. And so the
yellow ribbons around trees, and thenI think that just kind of spurred into
we started to wear white ribbons onour lapels. Someone made a whole bunch
of them and delivered them to thenewsroom, which was very kind. A

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lot of people were bringing snacks andfood and doing what they could. You
know, the Midwest, a lotof people feel like they want to try
to help out, but they feela bit helpless. They don't have information
on a disappearance, so they wantto do something that they know best,
so sometimes that's cooking or making things, that sort of thing. It was
a crazy time of trying to navigate. At the beginning, it was a

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morning news conference and an afternows conference, So we're working really long days,
carrying a lot of information live andtrying to investigate as many tips as we
get into the newsroom, and atthe same time knowing that we're doing our
due diligence to pass along stuff tothe FBI because they have much greater resources
than we had to try to solvethis case. And you never knew which

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one was that tip. You getso many pieces of information and you never
want to be the one where youoverlook something right ten years later it comes
back where if you just would havepaid attention to that one, maybe something
would have happened. But when you'regetting calls from psychics and folks who do

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other different types of visions, Ican see where sometimes that gets a bit
overwhelming for investigators. It was surreal. My desk was just above so we
were on a second level, soI could look down and see her desk,
and if I remember right, Ithink it was cleared off because the
investigators came in and grabbed everything theycould on top, thinking that maybe there

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was a clue that she had leftbehind, if she had gotten a call
from a stalker or was investigating somethingsomething like that. I think they were
going through everything they could on herdesk, But I mean we tried to
just kind of put our heads down, and we knew we had a job
to do and the best that wecould do was to keep moving on and

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get the information out there to helpsolve the case and find our missing colleague.
You tried not to get too wrappedup into the emotion. There'd be
moments where it would hit you whereyou're writing something and thinking about something,
or you'd see a picture on air, or someone would call with a personal
memory, or you talk to thefamily and that was pretty rough too,

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because they're hoping that we were justholding back, but we have some information
we could give them that maybe givesthem hope. And you always would leave
those conversations feeling pretty empty. Didyou feel fairly soon in the investigation that
most likely she had not just takenoff, as something had happened to her,
that she'd been abducted. Yeah,it was pretty clear, at least

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after lunch once we had talked toinvestigators about the belonging scatter on the floor,
and then hearing the timeline that shehad called and said she was going
to be in and then said andthen no answer, and then nobody was
at the apartment. So at thatpoint you knew it was pretty bad.
It's just you thought that there'd besome tip that would come in. But

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if you look at the timing ofall of that, it's it's like the
bad guys had a couple hours todo what they wanted to do, and
two hours from Mason City, youcan get to Minneapolis or Des Moines and
beyond in a couple of hours,So that makes the search area pretty widespread.
Over the years, you moved onfrom KIMT and you've continued to report

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on Jody's unsold abduction even while sinceyou've been an anchor in Omaha since then,
Is that right? Yeah? Andyou did a special report on the
twenty verse for you Jody subduction intwenty fifteen, and I understand you came
back to Mason City for the twentyfifth anniversary. I don't know of anyone
else who's continued to cover Jody's abductionwho is part of the original croup.
What motivates you to keep reporting onthe case, What keeps you going and

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keeps you interested? There's probably twofold. One is that I'm still in a
position to tell those stories. Two, I think it's I think it's my
duty to keep telling that story.I have a unique perspective on it,
and I have, I guess,a big megaphone. So in a way,
I feel like it's an obligation.It's not like a burden on me

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to tell the story. I thinkit's something that you know, you find
out that so many people remember thisfrom back then, and then you get
into this next generation twenty five yearslater and folks are like, yeah,
I don't know anything about it.But then you wonder, will it be
a jailhouse confession, will it bea deathbed confession? At some point,

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will somebody say something that will makethe break in the case and say it
to somebody now that perhaps it registersby us getting that story out. You
know, if Grandpa says something andyou're kind of like, oh, that's
just Grandpa. He's dying and youdon't know anything about Jody's disappearance, This
blond anchorwoman from northern Iowa just beingsnatched. Maybe you don't take any special

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merit of what you're hearing, Butif we're keeping that conversation going, at
least to some degree, maybe itjust kind of keeps those spokes out there,
and somebody might end up tripping oversomething and catching a wind of it,
and there's that one little clue thatwe need to find something. Have

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you ever had viewers in Omaha reachout to you about the case that either
knew about it or had information?Yeah, I mean I get some of
the letters from people I've been gettingletters from for twenty five years, and
investigators get those two from people whobelieve that they're always being overlooked and they
know who did it and this isit and that that kind of a thing.
But every time I do stories onit, I'll get new information from

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somebody who felt like what they hadseen or what they had heard didn't really
have much merit. But then themore they think about it, they realize
that, geez, maybe I shouldtalk to detectives. So yeah, there's
there's been folks that we pointed inthe direction to talk to the FBI and
share what they know. Because youknow to them, it's that it just

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didn't have feel right in the gutfor whatever the circumstance happened to them,
and they knew they were in MasonCity at that time, and so then
they will share that knowledge with me, and I'll be like, I'll share
it with investigators so that they're they'reable to kind of look up on these
people, because I mean, it'spretty striking you hear that from a lot
of people where our instincts are prettygood when we're in situations that are just

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uncomfortable. Sometimes it doesn't mean thatthat person is a serial killer, but
it also can mean that they're upto no good and you can kind of
maybe get a line out or maybesome information on somebody that has a bigger
plot at hand if you just listento yourself. I saw in some of
the interviews you did for the specialthat included now to CESPI that worked for

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Jody's family and some couple of FBIinvestigators. What was your takeaway from your
interviews with them. I know thatthey don't tend to tip their hand too
much, but did you come awaywith a sense that they really do feel
they have somebody that they have confidenceis going to be solved. What were
your impressions when you did your interviews, I'd say it was a mixed bag.
When I talked to FBI agents andthen a private detective from here in

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Omaha who worked on the case inthe mid nineties, Doug Jason, who
since passed, if I remember right, he didn't think that anything that we'd
ever find out. He had gonethrough like the birthday cards from her party
the weekend before, trying to lookto see if there is a weird clue
that the killer might have left behindin a card. And number of years

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later I even went out to CentralNebraska with him to investigate a tip that
we had gotten from some guy.And I forget the process of it,
but they use like natural water andother things to help try to find bodies,
and they thought that they might beable to pinpoint the body. So
there's a lot of things that welook into in this job and it never

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ends up being on air. Andthen there was when I talked to the
FBI. I wouldn't call it atrick of the trade, but a lot
of times on old cases, Ialways like to ask investigators whether it's a
case that they think they know whodid it, but just can't prove it
because we often hear and a lotof real world stories and TV shows that

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you know, a lot of evidencepoints to a certain individual, it's just
not enough to put them over thethreshold for a conviction. And so I
asked the FBI that just to kindof get their gage on it, and
I got a sense that they weren'tsure if they have talked to the killer.
You know, maybe they're just goodat not passing along what they were
late believe. But I got asense that they felt that that there's a

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part of them that even if theythink that they might have that they aren't
convinced that that individual might have doneit. You are frequently interviewed by the
network crews about the case. You'vebeen on numbers shows, and I just
wonder where are you today and howyou personally feel affected by this. Too
many people as an unresolved mystery,but it's one that happened close to home,
and it's much more than that foryou, as a former colleague,

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I think it probably it's depressing theolder I get. Part of it might
be because I have a son ofmy own who's now you know, probably
getting ready for college here in acouple of years, and so it's hard
not to see somebody in those shoesand the parents who are just struggling and
waiting, and the time just keepspassing. You don't have any answers.

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So it's kind of it keeps gettingsadder in a way that you know,
we're in a business where when wetell stories and we have the answers,
and if we don't have the answers, a lot of times you can kind
of point to the different questions andthen the viewer can come up with their
own answer. But in this case, it's, you know, we really

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don't have those answers or even thingsto kind of point viewers in a particular
direction. Sure there've been people ofinterest over the years, and I'm sure
some viewers think like that guy didit, or that guy did it,
But until you have a suspect named, you know, none of us are
right at that point. So Ithink it just gets in a way it

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feels just as exhausting when I dothose stories now because I just think about
how how rough it was trying tolike just stay on top of the story
and then function just function as anormal person while you're in just waist deep

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news for just weeks on end,and I mean I think for three weeks
we did you know, I probablydo in sixteen hour days, two news
conferences a day, interviews, allthat other stuff, talking to detectives,
and then and then you have tomake those tough decisions about Okay, we

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don't have anything new on Jody,so what do we do this week?
Do we ignore it? Do wejust give a little update? Do we
Because then you're kind of wondering,like, well, if we quit doing
anything on it now, we're goingto look like we're so callous in the
view, or it will be likewhat did you do? Just forget about
your colleague? And there's all thosedecisions behind the scenes that you had to

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try to figure out, how longdo you wear the ribbon? Do you
ever stop wearing the ribbon? Allall those different things that that you don't
never thought you'd have to try tomake decisions on, and then how you
cover anniversaries and all the stuff downthe road. There's certainly nothing you ever
learned into studying journalism, as nothingprepares you for something like this. Yeah,

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there was no I don't remember anychapter in my journalism classes that talked
about how to deal with that,and even if it did, I'm sure
it's it's so different because, Imean, when you talk about stations,
station's first reaction even today as tolike, oh, we have employee assistance.
You know, we have people youcan talk to and this and that,

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and while all of that is probablybetter than it was back then,
it doesn't really deal help you dealwith all the other questions that are coming
that you're grappling with. And yeah, it's I mean, but I also
there's a part of me where Ikind of will tell myself you just and

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I in some colleagues too, whereyou just kind of realize you have to
suck it up because you know what, I wasn't abducted. So I think
I can handle this part of itand carry on and try to just keep
fighting a good fight. What's yourtake from being an inside and looking at
it now maybe from the outside alittle bit? Why interest in Joey's case,
I think it comes down to there'sa lot of footage of her,

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and she was in people's living room, as I like to say, free
of charge every morning, and unlikemovie stars where you often see them on
the big screen, the pandemic wasa little different because you saw more in
your living room. But for peoplewho are on the local news, you
know that they live in your town. You know that you might see them

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at the grocery store or maybe atthe golf course, and so there's more
of a personal relationship there because you'retalking about the things that they talk about,
in many cases the weather that theyhear about, the same sports teams,
and so once you combine that localrelationship that you have and then you

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realize that every market in the countryhas people like that, and then you
have an unsolved case at twenty fiveyears now involving someone like that. I
think it's very easy for everyone tokind of put themselves in those shoes and
to imagine if that would have happenedto the people that they watched on the
air, And I think that's probablywhy it continues to have legs. Have

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you ever thought about what it wouldmean, though, for obviously Jody's loved
ones, her family, her friends, and your Kimt family over the hears,
what it would mean to finally haveanswers. That's a great question.
I'm not sure, and now thefamily often would talk about closure, and
then you'd hear stories when you talkto other families of victims, and they'd

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kind of talk about how closure kindof sucked because even though they got an
answer, they still don't have theirloved one back. But at least there's
maybe this part of their brain wherethey're not constantly filling in the gaps.
And I think that's what you sawwith Patty Wetterling. If she ultimately,

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no matter how awful it was,she just wanted to know what the truth
was. And you know, Ithink after a lot of time passes,
that's what folks just wanted at theend of the day, want to know
the truth of it. And ontop of that, did this person ever
do it again? Because there's alwaysthat aspect where you talk about hope,

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and when you're talking about hope,you know that everybody has that hope meter
at a different spot. For somepeople, hope is like at one hundred
percent. Others might have single digitpercentage of hope, and it can me
in a variety of things to differentpeople. For some, it would be
the individual coming back and being theexact same person you remembered them, only

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maybe twenty five years later, maybefor somebody else, that's about just getting
those final answers or justice, justputting away the people who did this so
that it can be an example thatfolks don't get away with this kind of
stuff. And I think that's whereit kind of falls falls for me.

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Anything you'd like to say to anyonewho's listening to this podcast today who might
have information on what happened to Jody, you go back and you try to
think about certain specifics of a dayfrom twenty five years ago. I mean,
you can't remember what you had forbreakfast, you can't remember this or
that right, But when something happenedthat really made the hair on your neck

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maybe stand up, or maybe itmade the hair on your neck stand up
a couple of years later, whenyou heard it from a friend or you
heard somebody talking about it. Thoseare the kinds of examples where from talking
to people, they remember a lotof elements around that moment in time.
And if you had examples like thatthat happened to somebody or a piece of

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information, that's what police are oftensaying when they say no piece of information
is too small that we want tohear about and want to run through our
record check and try to figure outif this is if this is good or
bad, or do we put itinto the check on later file, or
maybe it's the missing gap and twopieces of information that they have that now

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finally point at someone and then theycan like talk to somebody based on that
information. So I know a lotof people are like, we'll say,
well, geez, who's going toremember anything new twenty five years ago?
Or there's Brian talking about something fromtwenty five years ago. If something somebody
knew, something would come up bynow. But there are examples of stories
where things come out years decades later. And in the way science is too,

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you never know if something pops onsome of the DNA that they have
of Jody. I know they haveJody's DNA. I know they have other
DNA in evidence. They don't haven'ttold us what they have, but if
they have something to check it against, yeah, that's what they would they
would use on it. I mean, they've certainly not given up where they

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had, you know as well asI they had the search Warren a few
years ago. They're trying to seewhere the GPS of a person of interest
vehicle had been when they thought hewas coming to Iowa, and so when
you hear that kind of information,they had some something happened where it made
them get a search warrant. Otherwiseyou wouldn't just do that on a whim.

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And you wanted to see where hewas going because I mean, what
do you say, people like torevisit scenes of crime. So they probably
had that in their head. Andso it shows that there's still new things
that are kind of popping up overthe years, and maybe folks listening to
this, you know, have thatmoment that they've just been hanging on too

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and thought it was like they didn'twant to bother with it. But trust
me, it's okay bother us withit. Find Jody is a nonprofit run
by volunteers with a mission of keepingJody's unsolved case in the spotlight. Anyone
with information about Jody's case can chout to the Mason City Police Departments.

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Information can also be provided to theIowa Department of Criminal Investigations. You can
also contact Find Jody anonymously if youprefer don't sit in silence. The time
to talk is now for the entirefinds Jodi team. I'm Scott Fuller.
Thank you, for listening,