Andersson Frustration, Signing and Rumors - 2025 NHL Free Agency - LIVE - Flames Unfiltered - Episode 249 - Flames Unfiltered - Calgary Flames Hockey Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, the plane Sunfilter live on a free agency. It's
a Tuesday, July first, Happy Yek Canada day and we're
talking free agency.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, it kind of stuck up on us right.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, you know, I wish they would separate the draft,
just like, maybe give us two weeks, right, just.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Give us, let us, let you, let us digest what
already happened, just.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like we just I feel like, I mean not that
I don't love talking to you every day, Kyle, but
I feel like we just did this like we did
we did forty eight hours ago and it was fun
talking draft. But now we've switched gears in its free
agency and yes, in Calgary it is it's quiet, and
we expected that, and I'm not frustrated. I think some
of the fan bases, but I'm non frustrated. I think

(01:16):
we expected right.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean I think that hasn't been a whole
lot happened yet. I mean, maybe as we'll dive right in,
because things could happen while we're doing this too, keeping
Joel Handley, I don't think anybody's upset by that, other
than some seem to think it might, you know, prevent
somebody else from taking a spot. But I mean, at
that salary, at that term, it's he can move anywhere.
I just I'm concerned they're gonna press him in a
top pairing minutes again, which I don't think he's best

(01:39):
suited for. But I'm glad he's sticking around just the same.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
And I mean that deals is minimal. It's a one
point seventy five two years. We both, I think you'd
agree with me. We both thought he would get more
than that out in the market, and we both thought
somebody would take a big hit like a go Brandson
thing and not. But you know, I right, I mean,
is that not what we thought. Maybe we could see
my guy who had a really good year last year
that we both fear was a one off, but I

(02:04):
mean we might be wrong on that. And the way
I look at it is, hey, this gives us some depth.
He's a guy that he proved last year could come
out of the lineup, step back in like Michael Stone
used to do all the time and not miss a beat.
I think this is a tidy piece of work at
one point seven five. And yeah, I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, I think so too, But again, it depends on
how he's used. I'm a little concerned because again, he
played a lot with Wiger, and that is a spot,
you know, better reserve for somebody else. But we don't
necessarily know who that would be yet, although there's still
rumors of other things that are happening. So we can
go in two directions with where to go next on
this because I got a couple of different segues here,

(02:43):
so talking about players that I know I felt might
get more money than maybe the realistically worth. One of
them who got that money today from Philly was Dan Voltaur.
So we're now in the market for a backup goaltender.
What are your thoughts on that one?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, I think me and you both we're gonna
be fine. If Dan Valadar re signed in cal I
know I was, but I was thinking like two years,
two five and he went elsewhere, and and good for him,
you know what, he's gonna get more playing time in
Philly or he went two years three point three five.

(03:15):
Really good for Dan Vlodar. When it happened and I
read it, I was like, Okay, I kind of expected
it that he would go somewhere else, but I was like,
I also said today that I just with the goalie
market the way it was that I wouldn't have been
surprised if things would have circled back where he would
have landed in Calgary. And I know Calgary had an
offer on the board. I would love to know what

(03:36):
that was. But you know what, I think these things
work themselves out. But it does leave us needed to
go a goalie call.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, and allegedly apparently it's been going on for a
few weeks, but I have him Prostave, who played in
Arizona and Colorado previously, had a great year in Russia
last year, apparently is going to sign. But I mean,
you never know, I'm gonna I guess a lot of
teams have been looking at him, but uh, at this point,
hopefully he does. Because Alex Lyon is off the market,
David Ritiche off the market, Dave Ladar is off the market,

(04:08):
Antony Forrestburg's off the market. A lot of goalies signed today.
I think maybe more of the people realize I say,
list those names, I'm like, oh yeah, that guy, that guy,
Like quite a few were gone.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I was surprised, Hey, you know what, we didn't get
stuck with Matt Murray Seattle did, so, Hey, there's good
news there.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Do you ever feel like a guy like that, just
because he had so much success before, might just figure
it out again and have a little bit of a rival.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, you know what, Albeit, I don't want to test
that in Calgary. And you mentioned David Ridick this morning
to me on the phone, and I was like, no,
as much as I thought David Riddick was a fun
guy and a great guy, but like, I don't that
experiment is far gone for me. And uh, I don't know.
We'll see what the if this Russian kid gets signed
and he's got twenty four games of NHL experience and

(04:50):
and we'll see what. At best, it's this is a
push for for Devin Cooley, who really a lot of
us penciled in last year early in the year and said, hey,
you know this will this will be a progres ushing
into a Wolf Coolie tandem next year. And then we
got a little bit gun shy on that later in
the year with the injury to Cooley and the return
from the injury.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Where Flair is fantastic play too, so it was it
was kind of sad to see him go. But this
is something to be said for like being excited, like
when your favorite team, you know, signs anybody, So I
gain this is the other one that's being reported right now.
And I'm gonna try to stay on top of these
things as we do this, because we are alive and
there's still stuff happening. But uh, Nick seasick, hopefully I'm

(05:30):
pronouncing that right. A lot of questions X about who
he is, but apparently he's signing with the Flames. From
what I can tell, he was the best defenseman on
Eddler Manheim in Germany last year. So and before everybody
starts freaking out thinks, so who is this guy? Why
they signed him? My guess, and it's a fairly educated one,
is that he's destined to play for the regulars, looking

(05:51):
for some more Ventro leadership down there, And uh, you know,
he's twenty five years old, so I.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Don't have a lot of defense down there though, too, right,
I mean, how many of those young players will make
the jump? I mean, I think there's you know, talk
then a lot of thought in Calgary that will PreK
will make the jump this year, and I don't know,
I don't have some questions that maybe Brustovitch doesn't make
the jump at some point this year too, So it'll

(06:22):
be interesting to see how that plays out. But you
know what, I think we've learned in the past that,
like especially like with this Handley thing, or you know
we talked about the dry and hunting just days ago.
Those are guys that like those are no pain signings,
like if worst case you put them on waivers. Right,
And I hate to sound course by saying that, but

(06:42):
like that is the truth, right if if a young
player steps in, and I saw a lot of talk
with amongst flames fans on exit today saying there's no
room on this roster, there's no room on this roster. Yes,
there is a plenty of room on this roster. That
means you need to beat out somebody if we leave
spaces open for young players or ask for trouble.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, well that was Conroy's message maybe half an hour ago,
you know, was you know, come take a spot, come
take a job. And when you look at the depth chart,
it's a bit of a tall order because like at forward,
especially like we're going to have to move somebody if
we want to bring anybody in. It's pretty like so
hubert O Kadri Postpozalzari, Coleman Backland, Carnado at Steve and

(07:24):
forwards right there, Sharon, Govic, Frost, Farby, Lomber, Kirkland and Klapka.
So any same thing kind of on deep ball and
Anderson Anderson from now of course, Hanley, Wiker, Bean Pahal
and Miremanov are all signed as well.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
So but when you look at that, and I agree
with what you're saying, Kyle, and but when you look
at that, don't you want that going in because if
if a young player steps in number one, I always
feel like the best in the opportunity for that is
an injury or if a guy just steals the spot
out of camp, right, And if they do that, would

(07:59):
you have a problem putting a lord here, a guy
on waivers, or moving a guy for a third round
pick or a second you know, who knows. There's a
lot of options that come in there, right, And I
think it's a good problem to have where we're fighting
for a spot rather than going, oh man, who is
we going to have fill in the you know, third
line right wing this year? You know, at least we

(08:21):
know now this year what we got with Coronado. We
feel pretty comfortable with Zorry. Those are questions that we
we did not have answered last year, so I feel
a little better going.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, yeah, we got pieces too, that We've got lots
of pieces. So all this talk today and I've been
watching it very closely about bow and Byrom potentially, which
should be a huge addition for the Flames. I mean,
we have that glut of forward to draw from, prospects,
strap picks. I mean, we're pretty well, you know, in
a position to do whatever the team feels they need
to do, unlike a lot of teams who have no

(08:54):
cap space, who have you know, a lot of players
and positions that already kind of tied up. So it
there's a lot of work that's left to be done here,
I mean apart from the housekeeping stuff like getting Ziari
signed a possible Wolf extension. But I can't see that
this is the team Calgary is can enter the season with,
especially where they got so close to playoffs last year.
And I'm not saying it's the right approach, but the

(09:16):
belief is they got so close they want to rebuild
and try to make the playoffs, which is, as people
have said, kind of a oxymoron. But I don't think
this is the team that's going to be, you know,
stepping on the ice in October, so.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
You feel like there's gonna be a lot of moves.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't know if it's going to be a lot
of moves, but there's a couple there's some queaking here
to be done, and I think there's too many pieces in,
you know, on the flames right now. There's just some
guys who are getting me moved out to make it
possible for younger players to potentially make the team, because
as it stands right now, these guys have too much experience.
And I really don't believe unless maybe Sam Hansi blows

(09:55):
the doors off from training camp, I don't see a
guy making a team out of camp and taking a
job from many of the names that I just mentioned.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think that's a fair argument. I think it would
be a risky move to trade them away, but it
depends on what assets you're getting back. See one thing
that you know, when when Darren Drager reported this Bow
and Byron thing, I really didn't know what to think.
They mentioned teams, other teams like Saint Louis La. I
think in Vegas. I think Vegas had almost logically and

(10:23):
financially have to be out of that, I think LA
would pretty much there. I mean, their defense, of course,
seems full. They seem like they've been super active.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
They yeah, they really have. But for the strangest reasons.
Why you'd give up on a guy like Jordan Spence
and sign a guy like Cody CC for more money?
Just I do that, man. There's a lot of things
that understand that damn near the top of the list
for me.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm very interested though, to see if anything comes with
this Byrom thing. I know there's you know, concussion talks,
people worried with that. I've also come to the conclusion
that no matter what trade ever happens, everybody's not going
to be happy, right, So I don't know. I I
guess I've been asked twice already today, what would you

(11:07):
want bowen Byron, and I'd be like, yeah, but I
need to know what we're giving up, right, I Mean,
that's where I think it comes down. And there's obviously
validity to this because there's more than just Darren Dreger
reporting it too. So we'll see how that plays out
as this, uh this day goes on and probably into
the week. I feel like that's something that's not gonna
happen in a couple hours.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well that's just it. So Bow and Byrum really fits
a lot of Calgary's current need to round out the
defense as it currently stands. So but you know, it's
I think it's from what I saw from Dragger was
like a three horse race. So I don't know, we'll
see how that plays out.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
But if Byron's Byron stepped in, and we can all
we're gonna talk about Anderson here in a minute, but
we can all kind of pencil him out. Uh, Byron
stepped in, That's that's nice. You prec move up. You
still have room for other young players to move into
that absolutely, and you sit. I love the way our
defense is kind of molding in. And I started to think, well,
to get a buyer, and you're gonna have to give

(12:05):
up somebody, And I thought, well, maybe there's a place
for Joel Fairbee to go. Yeah, you know there's there's
And I'm not trying to just pick names. I mean,
I'm just trying to pick of you know, like, what
what would what would it take to to do this right?
And and what spots are opening it up? Maybe not
hurt us too bad either, Right, So it'll be interesting

(12:28):
to see how that that one plays out.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be This is you know, free
agency always is kind of a well typically kind of crazy.
The first time it kind of peters off, and it
was said earlier today like Nick Elers, for example, is
probably not signing anywhere today. But there's been a few trades,
There's been a fair amount of activity. So I don't
know what like the next phase is going to look like,

(12:51):
but I think that's where the flames might get more involved.
I suspecty're going to anounce your goaltender signing in the
next couple hours, but anything beyond that, and in particular
for us Rasmus Anderson situation, I don't see it being
resolved anytime soon. So where do we begin with that?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, you want my taggers, You want to do your
take first, because I do have some thoughts on this, and.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Take all right ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I'm I'm a little frustrated now. I want to be
clear on where I'm directing my frustration, though I don't
know that I'm directing it necessarily at Rasmus Anderson. I'm
frustrated with the situation and I've I'm really frustrated where
the situation has gone in the last couple of days.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, we we.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Really as a fan base, and I'm assuming as an
organization and quite honestly probably as a player in Anderson
did not want to go down the Hannafin road, right,
and I feel here we are. I feel like this
is mirroring it very clearly. And It's been reported that
these Nick trades with La, the Ottawa and I Columbus.

(14:04):
Maybe I've heard some thing. I don't know on that one.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
But LA was the big one. I mean, I'd heard
the ones you just mentioned as well, but LA was
one where it's like, I guess they backed up the
Brinks truck and it was like, holy shit, we need
to take this, and then didn't, right or couldn't.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Or couldn't take it because Rasmus. But here's what I'm
confused on it. Researched his contract and it says in
years five and six, which we're in, he is a
six team no trade clause. Yeah, I would be shocked
if LA was on that six team no trade class.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now they could be well, I don't, I don't think
they are. But here's the thing is that the Flames
can trade him technically, but the trade won't be consummated
if LA says, hey, he won't sign extension with us,
so we're not going to finish the deal. It has
It almost has to be a sign and trade by
the sounds of it.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
So why what happened to the trades? It happened? I mean,
I don't understand, Like, why are why do we even
talk to Rasmus Anderson If we have his list of teams,
he won't go to let's talk to all the other teams,
and yeah, like why do I don't like and I'm

(15:13):
I'm a Rasmus Anderson fan, but I don't care if
Rasmus Anderson doesn't want to go to LA. Yeah, like
it's not on if it's not on your list, and
which I don't know if it is or isn't. If
it isn't then or if it is on the list,
and you would even talk to LA, right, Yeah, you
wouldn't consummate a deal with LA if he's if that's
on the list, but why are you even talking to

(15:33):
Rasmus Anderson? You should make a phone call that and
be like, hey, thanks for your services to you. We've
decided based on the fact that we haven't come to
an agreement on a contract and move you to the
Los Angeles Kings. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well. But here's the thing. I think the temperature changed
a bit because initially, you know, things went into the
offseason with pretty amicably between the team and the player apparently,
and now there's rumblings that it's kind of come a
part of it because I think what had happened was
Conray would call Anderson or agent and say, you know,
we have this deal in place. You know they're looking

(16:04):
to sign extent with you. Well you know we're not
willing to do that. It's like, well, shit, so now
the trade's off, right.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, why would I know what you're saying? And I
and I know, And maybe I'm thinking illogically on this,
I very well could be. But we only started hearing
about this in the last few years where it was like, well,
that mixes a trade because it's he's not gonna sign
he can't even talk contract with them anyways.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Remember like when the line draws thing happened with Quebec
and everybody hated him for it, and understandably so, especially
in that time period. But now it's like everybody does
it you know, there's so many things that allow and
this is where you know, if I can jump in
here and get my thoughts, which very much mirror your own,
Rasmus Anderson isn't doing anything that he isn't allowed to
do based on the contract he signed, in the agreements

(16:51):
he has. I don't I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't like it either.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I don't think maybe it's because he's frustrated with this
he had and the way the fans treated him. And
there are some fans on X which I got to say, like, man,
like leave the guy alone. Like there's just some commentary there.
It's like, it is what it is. He can see
the fact that, you know, they're not gonna be paying
the money that he wants or the term that he wants.
And there's a glut of stellar prospects banging on the door,

(17:16):
right So it's it's time to move on for all
kinds of reasons. But he still holds the carsity holds,
and he can play them whoever he chooses. So the concern, now,
when you saw a lot of it today, is that
this is, as you said, going to become Noah Han
from two point Oh, it's gonna drag out all season.
We have a player who clearly is not going to
be here beyond the season. And I'm like Matthew Kuchuk,

(17:36):
who kind of helped us segue into I'm gonna go
and I'm gonna get you some stuff on my way
out the door. Now we have a player, it's like, well,
we're trying to move on and if we don't do
it in this particular, so the best chance was well,
the previous trade deadline. Then it was the draft when
everybody's chatting even though they weren't all in the same
room like they typically are. And now we're into free
agency and a lot of teams have already committed dollars

(17:58):
terms or even traded for guys as other options.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right, Yeah, it's so.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
The only thing. Yeah, So the only thing we can
hope for at this point is because the dust has
started to settle in the available free agents and trade targets.
Inside of Anderson is that it will create a new
market for him as teams struggle back, as Anderson maybe
starts to think, oh, you know, maybe I will sign
long from there, because this talk that he wanted to
go to Vegas or only Vegas. The League's got to

(18:25):
do something about it. And again, nobody is committing any
fraud or act.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
His decision. He can't well, he can say he's only
going to go to Vegas, but he has no idea
what Vegas would offer him.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
But he knows he's going to make a lot of
money because stay tax situation.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Right. Well, I don't care though, but if they if
Vegas doesn't have the MAGO, well but they might be
able to find it.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Look look what they did to with ox Pertrolangelo. That's
crazy every and this is what I'm curious about. How
is I don't know how, and we're both kind of
rambling here. I don't know how the league is going
to police this whole thing. It's capture convention because it's
a major, major issue, and the Knights are the biggest
i'll say offender flack better word, even though they have
do anything wrong technically, it's a couple upon the Knights

(19:11):
to find casts base for Anderson if they want them,
and god knows they could. But at the same time,
it's been beaten to death, especially today, the Knights don't
have the assets to acquire a player of Anderson's value.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, there's no package they could send us that we
would take.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I don't know what the hell it would be. And
the only way it would work for me is at
this point is if you package Anderson with some you know,
one or two of the Flames forwards to get some
forward help from right off of the Knight's roster. There's
no prospects and draft picks to be had with the
Knights that are worth talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So so how do you solve this problem if you're
Craig Conrad for a lesson? I mean, we should have
learned this less than before. But I mean I don't
know why. You know, the second I handed him the
contract and he said no, I'm not going to do that,
I would say, okay, let me relook at that, and
I would have just traded him.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think the the best thing you can do when
this mirrors all kinds of things in life at this point,
and it sucks because it's also the most dangerous thing
to do, is you throw your hands in the airth
So you know what for now? Fuck it like this is,
this is what it is. We gotta let things calm
down on the market. We gotta take a step back
and reevaluate. But but the danger in that is that
you drag it out. And when you drag it out
the way and I said this before that Joe Sackett

(20:19):
do with Matt DeShane a few years ago paid off beautifully.
In this case, we could wind up with another trade
like the hand off of one where the return is
really not good or doesn't look to be to this point,
and you know, leaves the team getting a quarter of
what they should have got for an asset that everybody
seemingly wanted at one point.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
So this should have been done last trade deadline.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It should have been. But again, ownership pressure, even a
bit of fan pressure. I would say, the team's fighting
for the playoffs, even though we had a terrible year.
One of your best defensemen, it's like, it's hard to
blame them for that, because when you're in it, it's
so different, right, It's like anything else. It's like, you're
right there.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I wouldn't have wanted to do it at the time.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Oh man, we loved it.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
The first to admit that I'm not. I mean, I
know this is a difficult situation, but I just I
feel like and and maybe I'm just like God blinders
on and I'm not looking at the whole perspective, like
why does this feel like it just just keeps happening
to the Calgary Flames.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, because in part it does.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You think it would be happening to other teams too,
And I just I don't know. My frustration level is
really really high with this, with this Anderson thing, because
you know what, I thought that this was maybe, along
with some manipulating and some maneuvering along outside of this,
a way to get a center that we need so badly.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Mm hmm. Yeah. And I don't I don't know, I
don't see. There's a couple of things out there that
make me curious though, that I'll throw out there just
just for thought, because I haven't seen them elsewhere yet anyway.
But on the center front, like Joe Veleno just got
bought out and he's a pretty capable center. I think
he's right shot. If I'm not mistaken, maybe the Flames
it's not to go like him right.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, whose spot does he take? Though? I mean I'm
not true. I mean, yes, we need centers, but like
I'm like thinking for the future, like right now we
have Kadri Backland.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't know if I and I don't I don't
know either. I mean, any of this stuff is going
to evolve, you know, moving some pieces out in one
form or another. It's just it's a really really it's
an interesting situation, but it's kind of a it's an awkward
one too, because it's a cure. We are sitting in
this asset again that we know is going to be gone. Yeah,
and how do we turn that into something that we

(22:33):
need when he is very much restricting what the films
can do with him. So that's why my attitude at
this point. Unless somebody calls you and says, and it's
a team Rasmus wants to play for, we're gonna give
you this, this, and this, and it's like, holy shit, Okay,
but now we're talking, right, and maybe maybe some GM
can talk to Anderson, which from what I understand, Conroy
hasn't given another team permission to talk to him yet.

(22:53):
They may say, you know, come in here for a year,
let's try it out, and if you're not happy, we'll
move you at the deadline becausebody's gonna wan him any right.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
The problem is, though, the second Anderson goes public and
says he only wants to go to Vegas, cash it
in And I've seen people try to defend Anderson on
on on X and and and know what I and
I'm I can think about this logically and say, yes,
I know he has the right to say whatever he wants.
He owes his team nothing, he's done what he's been

(23:23):
paid for in Calgary. I get that. I get all
of that. And so like I'm trying not to bash
on rastmuns Anderson, but if he says I'm only going
to Vegas, well then.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
What well that yeah, I mean that that speaks to
a larger problem Leason have to find a way to address.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
And and I don't know, I mean I didn't actually
hear him say that, but it's that's what's being reported.
So I mean, I'm just going off of what would
be considered credible resources, right, And I don't know. I'm
I'm frustrated with it and I don't know. But I'm
also glad though that the Flame didn't go bonker SA

(24:01):
today and spent a bunch of money. I did see, Man,
I got I got a stat here for you that
that's interesting on Sports and Stats. It says the UFA
signings last year, these are the top six spending teams
last year on on July July one, Predators one hundred
and twenty two million, cracking ninety four million, Bruins eighty

(24:24):
seven million, Blackhawks, sixty million Devils, fifty three million Canucks
fifty one million. Five of those teams missed the playoff
last year.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's wild?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Not?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
That?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
That is?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, this is why you know the CBA amendments that
you know, some of the provisions in their like contract length,
are designed to try and prevent owners and gms from
doing damage to themselves in their own teams, right, And
I mean the Flames was in Flames Nation did a
great job covering this, like talking about past free agent signings,
some of the huge mistakes Calgary made James Neil and

(24:57):
Troy Brower take a bow.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Now, every team I think does have those in free agency.
And that's what we always say.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, it's the nature free agency.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
We get so excited for this day to watch this
and then and to see what happens with our team.
But you know, maybe we should connor blessings when mistakes
aren't made, right mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Exactly. So back onto some of Connor's comments just because
I got them in front of here now. So Conor
said Dan Fletter loved and wanted to stay in the city,
who was chasing a starting role and thought Philly was
the best opportunity. He's probably right, probably, yeah, yeah. I
good for Dan Letar for getting paid and for taking
that chance. The other thing, Connor I mentioned he's going

(25:44):
to talk to Wolfs agent soon and try to get
him locked as and as possible, but there's not a
crazy rush at the moment to do so. But I
think by the end of the summer that'll be a
done deal.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm more interested probably to see I know, like qualifying
operas were were issued to Frost uh Kerns because Nets
of Morton, You're Jeremy Pory. Why why do I struggle
with that name of them? Connor Sary, those are the
guys that get qualifying operas. But I'm really interested to
see where this Frost and Zari things go, just because

(26:19):
of the confusion. I really really they're worth and I
went back and forth in that one in my head
a million times over.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But yeah, hmmm, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Eh. I got a question for you. I think I
know what your answer is going to be. You know
where I'm going with.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Us, you know, because I'm not thinking about it. Why
you're talking is I want to give you a surprise
and honest answers I can give.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Jacob Pelja at the free agent market today or when
he was not qualified with the Philadelphia Flyers. Kyle, are
you wanting to resign Jacob Peltia.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
The two reasons why, and one of them is one
that I've always shout on in the past. So anybody
who's heard me say this before, forgive me, because I'm
gonna be a total I'm gonna be a total hypocrite
here good in the room.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
You might not be in the room. He's not beating
you're not making that roster.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh but he could. I mean if if they move
somebody else out, mind you. But he's he's gonna be
He'd be more of an impact player than Ryan Lomberg.
I like Lomberg, but he shouldn't be playing eighty two
or eighty four games. Where the hell it is now?
I said this before about Peltier. He's extremely well liked
and when he's on the ice, the puck is going
in the right direction and that's what the wranglers so

(27:37):
be it. But I I don't I didn't see it,
but I'm I can't help it. I can't help but
think somebody had to ask Conroy and his presser about
what about Chickipelchi any interesting?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I didn't. I didn't see it either, but like, there
is no reason to not do it other than people say, oh,
I didn't work up before. It's like, man, he barely
played like it over yourself. He was hurt a bunch
like piss off. You know, he could be a huge
ad for the Wranglers, for the Wranglers and maybe for
the fourth or third line in Calgary if they traded
a Blake Coleman or started playing Lomberg lass Sir. I

(28:10):
don't know it just he's such a versatile piece. Again,
I can't think if I have yet to see a
good reason why they shouldn't do it. It's not like
he's gonna be expensive, right.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I don't know that you're gonna ever think there's a
good reason before I'm drawing a blank here? Who is
the other golden child in Calgary, the little guy that
we lost to Washington.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I believe, oh, Matthew Phillips.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
This fan base loves Pelchie and Phillips more.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
We love the peace man. That's all about the peace.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know, you know, And I wouldn't be upset.
I guess if if we did sign him to a
two way deal, I wouldn't be upset at all. I
really wouldn't, because I do think that he definitely has
some assets, and I wonder if they won't come out
more with more experience, right, I just I don't. My

(29:01):
only reservation would be that finally, we've got some prospects
in our pool that I do think have much higher
upside than Pelcha, and I surely don't want him holding
a spot out of sentimental reasons in front of them,
if that makes sense, No.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Exactly, and that yeah, and that's an important point because
I mean for me or who's the captain of, you know,
the Monk to Walcats, like there is a sentimental attachment
there for me. But again, because of the nature of
the asset and the fact that you know it doesn't
it wouldn't do any harm in any It's not like
you're signing like a thirty five year old David Bacchus type,

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you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Like it's and that's mostly why I'm giving you a
hard time. Gal, because there really isn't. I don't have
a I don't have an argument that says, hey, like
this is.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And I'm happy to I'm happy to entertainment if I
was to see it, But to this point, I haven't
so in your estimation thus far, just generally speak, we
don't know a lot yet. But who who's your biggest
winners of the free and let's let's let's open up
a little bit, you know, the free agency period, which
also includes other trades that may have done.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm gonna say, well, we're recording this right now. Granlin
just did sign an Anaheim three years, seven million per.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
That's a strange, strange landing spot for him, I think, but.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And also a strange term. Yeah he has thirty three,
but you think he'd want to wrap up his career.
I got, you know, I don't know. It's that's interesting.
You know. It's kind of like getting asked the question
who won Draft Day? Which when I when I see
people put grades on drafts, I'm like, oh my god,

(30:43):
stop now, please stop thinking of cases, right right, just
stop please. But putting it on free agency is is
almost as difficult, I thought, as much as I am
a little confused on the direction of l A.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I'm baffled. I don't mean, well, I shouldn't say it.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
You know who I would say, I'd say Montreal. I
kind of like what they've done.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I love what they've done. That trade for Bulldook was brilliant.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I have absolutely no idea what Detroit's doing.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, now that it's Detroit, do you know what the
plan is the guys are planned? No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm waiting for the draft to show up my mailbox.
But it's a couple of years past two. And again
I've I've said this before. That's another example in my mind,
at least, of a unbelievable hockey player who maybe not
be the best executive. But the jury's still kind of out.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
But I want to be your on Utah like they're
making a lot of moves right. But I just don't know.
I mean, I don't know that signing Nate Schmidt to
ten point five million dollars, I mean, didn't he get
run out of Vancouver and Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And they played in Winnipeg of Florida most recently. I mean,
when he saw the figure they were offering him, I
can't imagine how quickly he converted to being a Mormon.
But somebody right here, let me just yeah, I mean
for them where it's a it's a new market in
the league. I mean, I think they're trying to do
everything they can to be competitive. They want that Cup

(32:18):
experience everybody talks about. So I don't know how it's
gonna work over for them this early on in their existence,
but you know, we'll see. I mean I shouldn't say
alind existence because I mean they were pre existing franchise,
but I mean they weren't much of a pre existing franchise, right.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, I don't want to hate what Philly's done.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I think Phillies, you know, they're doing the things
they should do. And I guess that's how you judge
this too. It's like based on what their needs are
where they're at doesn't make sense, Anaheim, I don't really
get Like the Grandlin thing Ottawa, I think is done
a fantastic job, a fantastic job. So they signed Lars
Zeller today, which is a good veteran center for them
to pick up. Resigned Claw drew And then as I

(33:01):
went on and on about the today, you know, getting
Jordan Spence from another form of wildcat from the LA
Kings was a really good get for them, so which
will be a nice compliment for the other defenseman, Shabbat Sanderson.
So Ottawa, it's it's funny to say, but I mean
Ottawa Montreal to this point are two of the bigger ones.
Another team that I don't know what they're doing. So
if we're talking more about like maybe the losing side

(33:23):
at least in terms of perception as the Boston Bruins,
I don't understand why everybody's obsessed with Sanders. You know,
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh, I don't have them on that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Holy it, man, it's not Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
How about did Edmonton sign the league? Well?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
So, yeah, that Frederick deal makes no sense. That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
How many years was that? I've been trying to pull
it up here? That was ridiculous? Oh that here it
is eight years for Trent Frederick. Eight years. I mean,
I know it's only three point eight five.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
But cow, I don't get it. I don't understand why
you would commit the much to a player who plays
a rule that Frederick does.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's totally Trent Frederick would assigned it four years.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
He would Yeah, one hundred percent. I yeah, that one
makes no sense to me. If so they did that,
Perry's gone. They traded Everdson.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Perry to LA that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, Connor Brown went to New Jersey. Apparently he was
highly sold after which I also don't understand. I mean,
Brown's quick, but his offense, you know, died six years ago.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Evan Bouchard gets ten point five million per year. What's
up the number?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, those people are especially flames fans posting the worst
of Evan Bouchard on on x O. Just getting walked
by Nathan McKinnon. It's just, oh man, it was funny.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
We we probably need to need to touch base on
the Mitch Marner that's eight years, twelve million per year.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Uh, and they're already like the jerseys the number ninety
three that he's gonna wear Vegas, Vegas is already selling
the jerseys. Really no wild So this is a great
time because I think this is the highest viewership we've
had to this point in this particular episode. So this
is a really fun time to talk about this. Did

(35:16):
you read Murner's statement without leaving the leafs?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I heard part of it today. They read it on
I don't know if it was. It was on tsenter Sports.
One of the guys read it.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't I don't want to be that guy who
jumps jumps all over like so many others have. But
I don't really know, and I don't have enough empirical
evidence that suggests to me that Mitch Murner actually gave
his all to Toronto, like in the playoffs especially, and
I know that's always been a big criticism. You get
on the stat list of goals in Game six and
seven of the playoffs, he's nowhere to be found, Like

(35:46):
he represented a culture to me of maybe it's entitlement.
And I'm not going to suggest that all this is
called our facts. I don't know, but like when I
think about what Toronto has to do, this Core four
thing is complete bs. And I had to laugh because
somebody said about the Oilers, well they have the new
Core four and it was like McDavid's recidle and they

(36:08):
mentioned Darnell Nurse's name in that. I'm like, no, no,
that's the worst contract in hockey. You can't no. But
the Marner thing, like, I really feel that Toronto's attempts
to be a better team and potentially win another round.
Is the only path for them is to break that
core down and Marner leaving, and thank god they got

(36:30):
a good player forming Nick Roy for their sake. Yeah,
one of them had to go, it's not working, it's
failing routinely. And then to watch Marner's behavior in that
game seven was atrocious. I thought he was being a
poor teammate, you know, blaming his teammates and I'm sure
himself too, but he wasn't contributing anything in that game seven.
He was awful. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
He's an interesting player. I mean, tons and tons of talent.
I was wondering, and it's not just with Mitch Marner,
but when anybody like jack Icle or the list goes
on and on when they when they go to Vegas, right,
I just I always wonder, like where does this go?
How does he fit in? Like you do? You just

(37:13):
it's there's such a bold team and they're also and
and you know what, I'm gonna be honest today, when
this whole Anderson thing happened, and I got frustrated, I'm
like this, this would never happened in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, because they I always feel like Vegas has just this.
I don't know if if asshole mentality, that's just like,
you know what, we're worrying about our team and we're
not gonna let one guy's actions take this team. We'll
just ship them out like we'll figure it out, right,

(37:48):
And I respect this team for their balls. Is that
fair to say? But I don't know how much Marner
is gonna Yeah, I think so gonna blend right because
you can take man, you know what in defensive Vegas
to Jack Eichel didn't blend real well right away either, right,

(38:10):
So we'll see what this does. I mean, Marner's got
so much offensive talent. But I also will say that
I am super happy he didn't land in Calgary.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It would have been a huge mistake. And it's funny
as I'm looking at x Pete Blackburner just tweeted, you know,
the pictures of the done in Vegas not helping the
tampering accusations.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, no kidding, huh oh man. I don't know. I mean,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
But I mean, ultimately, if we're talking about the competitive
nature of hockey and everybody's saying, oh, you know, Florida
got it down there, Garner back and let and let's
just take a minute just to touch on it is
impressive that the Panthers re signed those four players. K
Blad Marshaun helped me out here. I'm drawn a blank.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Bennett.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Of course, I'm trying trying to repress all my Sam
Bennett memories. Anyway, whatever the case, I don't remember. It
doesn't matter the issue. Like brad mar Shawn is not
playing pro hockey toil least forty three, it's not he's not.
There's no I would gladly eat those words. I mean,

(39:28):
he'd be the oldest player since Yogurt. Like, I don't
understand how. I'm not even sure how that contract got
through the league offices because it's like that's clearly not
gonna happen. But anyway, all that to say, though, the
Panthers are likely going to be in the conversation for
the Stanley Cup again next year. Now, they are probably
gonna be some fatigue and maybe some injuries, and other
teams are on the rise. But that all makes sense.

(39:50):
I don't see how mich Marner, who has virtually no
playoff success to his name in the NHL, is going
to help a team that just lost Alex Petrolangelo. The
next step towards winning another Cup, I don't. I just
don't see it, and maybe I'm wrong. I mean, the
Kings are still on the rise, the Flames are hopefully

(40:11):
on the rise. The Whalers are still going to be
strong if especially if you can find a goaltender. I
don't see the Nights as somebody that's gonna like Mark
Stone's back, isn't getting any younger, Likegain. I mean, there's
just too many reasons to think like this is not
I don't see this being a legitimate Cup contender next
year necessarily I do, and there's good reasons too as well.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I think they will be. I don't know if they
have the this is stamina the right word. I mean,
I mean to make it to the final and win.
But I do think that this team's on the rise.
And you know you just mentioned you, okay, like I
would say Calgary's I mean I would say, would you
not agree with me that Edmonton would be considered a

(40:56):
team on the decline now after their lost assets now
in the in the over the last two weeks.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Well and the fact they don't have the cap space
to really address the things that might put them over
the top, which again as a goaltender, probably another study
of defenseman a strong two way center for their third line. Like,
I don't, I don't know. I have a hard time
seeing them, you know, getting beyond the play. I mean,
they went to the Cup final tiers and real good
for them, But I don't see, Yeah, I don't see

(41:25):
them being.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Is Anaheim and Utah a team on the rise? I
guess you'd say that, right their fan bases would say that.
Calgary's fan base says we're on the rise. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know. I sit and I go
back and forth every day. I mean, right now, if
I if I asked you, is Calgary a better team
now than they were at the end of the season,
what do you think?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh, that's a good question. Honestly, No, they're the same.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
They're the same team right now.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
They could be if they.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Lose Anderson, which we obviously I think that's who knows.
This is probably going to drag out forever to drive
me insane. But you know, I mean, I don't know,
I I I really don't know how to answer that question.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Well, and if PreK is NHL already maybe they are
way better.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Right, maybe, but it's not just Perrek. We don't you know,
who knows what happens up front too, right, something someone's
gotta give.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
There's there's too many conveys comment earlier. I don't agree
with it at all, like, oh, if you want a job,
take a job. There's no jobs to be had. That's
just there's no jobs forward to be had right now.
That's a simple fact unless they move out of body
or two. So anyway, speaking of defense, though, we don't
want to miss this piece of news because it's quite significant.

(42:40):
So I'm gonna preface this in kind of a funny way.
My ex's stepfather's cousin just get hired by the Flames.
Brent Seabrook. Okay, yeah, you like that.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, so where you were going with? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Right, So Brent Seabrook has done nothing, did nothing but
win his fifteen year NHL career. His his assignment is
essentially the same as Michael Stones, which is to work
with the club's defensive prospects, the Wranglers the NHL. I
didn't see this one coming at all, and it's funny.
I was talking with Brent's cousin Jim a week ago,

(43:19):
ten days ago, something like I don't know what it was,
but like pretty damn recently. And then the Flames go
and hire this guy. So clearly they want to add
winners to the organization in you know, roles that help
their players develop into hopefully winners.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah. Did you see that people in Dallas need to
watch out for stick throwing incidents? As Atlantic Gulletson was
hired as their head coach today.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Uh, you know, okay, So here's man, it's funny. We're like,
we're over forty minutes. They're like, no, we're gonna start
Wine and Andrew shortly, but you're gonna get me going again.
Glenn gullets And when he threw that stick in that
practice reminded me of a manager I used to work
with who thought his little temper tantrums would like produce
results or thought that people would listen. And I'm not

(44:05):
saying Glenn Gallinson isn't good hockey mind, because what I
understand he is. But when people when you when you
get angry and nobody takes you seriously, and it's like
guys having a hissy fit. It's the worst look and
it's not a look that suits him. So when guys
like Darryl Sutter, for example, would get ugly, I'm sure
it was kind of intimidating for the guys. You know,
the guy worked out a bit, he had some biceps,

(44:26):
automat deep voice farmer. You know that that approach never
suited Glenn Gallison. So hopefully we don't see any stick
throwing because his best chance at success with the Dallas
Stars is to communicate effectively and whole players accountable by
means of, you know, having conversations one on one, maybe
not throwing a stick in the stands and thinking anybody
thinks you're anything other than a raging lundednick. So now

(44:48):
that I've go ahead.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I was a little surprised by that one.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Actually, I was, well, I'm a little bit surprised by
it because in my opinion, based on where the Stars
are at and their cycle, this is a team that
should be contending. And my thought would be they're gonna
go out and get a Ken Hinchcock Joe Quinvole type,
like a veteran Darryl Sutter type, a veteran coach to
get the more of the finish line, and Gallison's coach

(45:14):
for a long time. I think most recently was an
assistant with Duilers yep. But I didn't have him on
bigo card to get a head coaching job with a
team like the Stars. I could have saw him with
I was just gonna say Seattle, maybe even Anaheim like
because he well and part of the reason is he
very clearly struggled to coach a fairly veteran leaden group

(45:34):
in Calgary. And obviously, obviously people in Dallas have never
heard of the brower play because if they had, they
would never have hired Glenn Gallaton to be their head coach.
And you can blame the power play coach, but if
a head coach lots a member of staff trot that
guy out on your power play to be a net
fun presence, you're doing something wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And that is all the time I have for Glenn Gallatson.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's about all the time we have for the show.
I do want to I do want to touch on
one more thing and then we'll talk about this and
then we'll run through if there's anything that's happened recently,
and then we'll let people get on with their their
holiday day. Here in Canada. UH introducing the class of
twenty five for the Hall of Fame. I just want
to get your take quickly on the players. We don't

(46:21):
need to talk about anything other than the the the
NHL players. Let's put it that way, Tarrow, were you
yay or nay?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I'm yay. But I mean it's the guy's six foot nine,
Like he can do things nobody else could possibly do.
It's like gone to the Giant of hockey. It's like, yeah,
of course he's gonna go on the Hall of Fame.
But I mean, yeah, anyway, yeah, good for him. Great player?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Is he in Hall of Famer? I mean, is he
a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Brad, I don't know. He was a damn good defenseman.
But we've had this conversation before, somebody have about it's
like the Hall of really good you know, it's not
really the Hall of Fame. And then remember Keith went
to the Whilers.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, yeah, I do that.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
That's right up there with like Brider and the Blues.
Oh there's some other crazy ones there, but I can't
think of him right now. Anyway, doesn't matter. But yeah,
I mean he's a great player, is he? Is he
Hall of Fame worthy? I'd have to go over his
stats again. It really ponder that, But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Joe Thornton, I can I can buy that one, right,
you're buying that one.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, I'm reminiscing about the Joe Thornton De Santo's h
trade down how awful that was for the Bruins. But yeah, yeah,
I can keep buying that.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
And finally, finally, finally, Alexander mcgilney.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Shout out to Sabers Bunny on x the biggest mcgiley
fan ever, and I think she's finally she's finally sleeping
after years of agonizing over this.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Now you know what we need now? And I know
we need THEO flurry in there. He he has numbers.
They're there, They're there. They're Hall of Fame numbers, they're there.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Well, there's a lot of guys in the Hall of
Fame that are a point per game player, right, they're there.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
So this guy was so integral. One gold medal for Canna.
I mean, topic for another day, but that's so good.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I couldn't agree more. As far as the hockey player
goes there, there's never been another one quite like him.
Carlo Kolhiakovo tweeted about Cody CC's four year deal in
LA hands down the worst contracts line.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Today looking at the board here on recent signings. Nothing
over the top. He took Vantachik goes to Utah.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Oh, I would have liked him as a backup. Actually
I forgot about.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Him one year one point five. That's very that's a
good that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Actually, So here's a question. Let me, I mean to
ask you this earlier. I forgot, but it just popped
up here again. How the hell the Dondri Kuzmenko get
four point three million dollars? How good was he when
he went to La? Or rather, how did I not
notice how good he was? And because that is a
that's a true he was good there. I knew he
was good, but he was that good? Like what the hell?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
No, he wasn't that good, but he was good. But
like I just I really wish I could get a
beat on what he really is because I think he's
so offensively dynamic. But you just got to put it
in every day if you're a professional athlete, though, right.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
He had seventeen points in twenty two games, which is
and five points and seven games in Philly and actually
somehow got up to fifteen points in thirty seven games
for the Flames traded, which was pretty good for a
guy who had a really abysmal start of the season.
But how he parlayed that in a four point three
million dollar contract at his age? I mean, you know,
golf broho, I mean the best laugh in hockey and

(49:42):
the worst English and hockey good for him is right?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Uh? The how do you say it? Nick Sizik?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
That is.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
One year.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, he had a lot of experience in the Sante
organization too, So again that's a good depth signing.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Hmmm. It's not super exciting for the Flames as far
as the day goes, but maybe that is a huge
blessing because this team, and I think this whole fan
base would agree, shouldn't and didn't go big fish hunting
to their big game hunting or what do you want
to call it?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, what the hell would we have done? Right? What
would have made sense from a big game hunting? And
if it's a trade for a guy like bow and
Byram while depending locals back to the way, that might
make sense. But in terms of a signing, yeah, like
we're not going to sign dealers, you.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Know, with with the writing on the wall with Anderson,
I don't know that getting a byrom wouldn't be great
with his age, And like I'm I'm actually really liking
that rumor, but I just want to see how it
all plays out, right.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, that's the thing. We're kind of a holding pattern.
Until the Anderson chip falls. There's not other than getting
a backup goal thunder sign and maybe like it's like
a jovelno, like an extra center. Maybe they could play
Wranglers or flames. And again, there's so many forwards that
could be a tough fit. Ah. We're also assuming, I'm
assuming and saying that that Justin Kirkland is going to
make the team full time as a center because after

(51:10):
the knee injury he had, there's no guarantee of that.
But until the Anderson ship.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Falls, wasn't Sam Morton fills that spot?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I can't forget what Sam Morton.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't know. I have that guy penciled in for
that that him and Kirkland are battling for that fourth
line center spot, and I don't care which one gets it. Yeah,
I don't know that Sam.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I hope that's the case. It's just the problem is
too like those those end of season one or two games,
in the last game against LA there's such a throwaway.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh yeah, Like I'm not judging anything there, but like
you know, a lot of people are saying that SUNI
of his is ready to go. I don't know. I mean,
we'll see, you know, let's talk about that. Developmental camp
starts this week the second through the sixth. I believe, uh,
you know, that's when we can start to see how
some of these guys come into play and then how

(52:00):
prospects later on in the summer. That's where we will
really start to learn you know who. You know, that's
kind of where we started to see, you know, like
in a camp open that Hansick you know, was kind
of making that step or trying to make that step.
And I'm not giving up on Hansi yet. I'm interested
to see how he progresses this year and a camp
and I don't know, I still think that we finally

(52:21):
have some prospects that we can be excited.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
For, right one hundred percent. And I think it's also
incumbent upon the team to make sure that as they
have in the past, you know, screw up those players
development Hansick. I think it was pretty clear to most
of us wasn't ready physically for the NHL last year.
I would depending on how the work he's put in
the summer, maybe you know, maybe he will be ready
this time around. But it's funny how many so many

(52:44):
names in the last three minutes you mentioned that. It's
like I didn't forget about them, like I mentioned Sam Morton,
but sonnyev Hansick Morton, They just they're all right there
potentially fighting for a spot, which again I don't think
is overly realistic until we move one or two bodies out,
But it's gonna be a true to see, be really
interesting to see. And also I'm curious to see from

(53:06):
a Flames, you know, alumni perspective, what happens to TJ Brody?
Is he get a tryout and camp like he was
a big Ears? Yeah? I just I wonder where a
surprise that black Hawks bought him out?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Not Calgary?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
No, no, no no, no, I wouldn't say so, I can.
I got really I got really drunk with his mother
in law and Columbus once. I just remember that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Oh no, that's we're gonna go off the rails right now,
aren't well?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I went off the rails that night for sure, but anyway.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
It would have been Oh boy, all right, I.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Think I think that means we've officially covered everything for this.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
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We record Monday nights drop tuesdays all season, even in
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Leftist We're talking about Flames. Tough guys. We're here. We're

(54:05):
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We appreciate great engagement all to Yeah, I'm watching the
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get a little bit of a play, right, kind of
get a little bit of a work. But yeah, enjoy
the nice weather, enjoy the holidays, and everybody stay safe
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