Controversial Flames Opening Night Roster – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 259

Controversial Flames Opening Night Roster – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 259           
Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14 
--- EPISODE 259 ---
GAME RECAPS – Cgy@Sea | Van@Cgy | Wpg@Cgy - Preseason
Controversial Waivers and Lineup Choices
Cooley wins back-up goalie battle
Pacific Division Predictions
FLAMES NEWS- 4th Jersey, Huska and Injuries
NHL NEWS- McDavid Contract
X-FACTOR- Contract Extension Timing - @MikeBartner
GAME PREVIEWS – Cgy@Edm | Cgy@Van |StL@Cgy 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Blames unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'll I WID's another day in Paradise, man. I see
you're you're decked out your Jays stuff. And then in
Game three is tonight as the Jays are up two
and nothing over to the New York Yankees. So all
of Canada isn't a craze and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, it's actually it drives me crazy and hockey when
people say things like Canada's team about like the Maple Leaves,
It's like, no, they're not, they never have been. You know,
it'd be more like I but you know, in this case, yes,
we only have one team. The Expos are gone and
there's a great what looks to be a great documentary
coming on on their departure on Netflix in a couple
of weeks. But yeah, Canada only has one ball team

(01:16):
and they're very good the year, so we'll see what
it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's always interesting when they're in in it.
I do think it's a little funny, just how much
like it's taken over the NHL talk as we you know,
hit Opening Days today. We're recording this on a Tuesday
night and Opening Days today, which I think is idiotic,
but we've talked about that in previous episodes. But yeah,

(01:41):
I mean, baseball playoffs are fun. My team is in
it too.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't speak a whole lot about baseball because I'm
not huge, huge in the baseball. But since I was
little kid, I've always been a Milwaukee Brewers fan.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
And I actually I have an uncle that lives in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Really I do.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
My grandma lived in a town real c to Milwaukee,
and uh, when we go visit her, we'd always go
in and watch games at the old Milwaukee County Stadium.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Cool. My dad's brother lives there. And I actually Milwaukee's
gonnadamn good team this year. So good on you.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So we both got our baseball teams.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
But uh, probably more importantly, I mean, we got a
lot of flames talk to go over. I was making
a list here the last couple of days of stuff
we need to we need to chat about today, and
I was like, holy cow, this is uh, this is extensive.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, there's a lot, for sure. Tis the season, right, Yeah,
so where do we begin?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, I want to, I want to I gotta get
your I gotta get your take on something.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's not flames related here.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did uh you know Frank Ceavelli just you know, left
Daily Face Off at the end of last season or
July one. I believe he's on a channel called Victory Plus.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Have you checked this out yet?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I was aware of the move, but I have not
checked it out.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now, Okay, here here's what I did, just not knowing.
I like, I like kiss some of his takes. I
like listening to him. He's not Elliott Friedman to me,
but he's that's pretty hard it is. But I kind
of like some of the way some of it. He's
got always some different stuff, right. And so I see
this Victory Plus thing. He has a thing on on

(03:15):
acts about it, and so I downloaded it and I
am pumped. I get the w HL games, every game
for free.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh sweet nice.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Three plus has all the w HL, all the Dallas Stars,
all the Anaheim Ducks, free wow and more teams joining
and more things happening with that. So I did watch
his episode yesterday, the big McDavid episode.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I I didn't get to see today.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I was a little swamped at work, which frustrated me
because I wanted to listen to it today. But all
in all, I think it's something that we that everybody
should check out.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Victory Plus seems to be.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Good, very cool.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I want to tell one but one more thing.
When we're gonna get into Flame stuff. This is Flames. Though.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You sent me a a tweet or not a tweet
message the other day and uh, talk to me about
this fourth Jersey.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, yeah, I mean, was it the last episode I
get rambling about you know you did?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah in the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
If you were to pull all the Flames fans and
weigh the percentages for the most popular, I think you
would have the Home in the Away and Blasty and
the four Red Jersey. And now there's all kinds of
talk that that four read which had a very very
short life. By the way, it is only three seasons.
We think, oh well three, oh four, five or six
or six? So seven because oh seven of eight they
went to the Flags Jersey. But anyway, it's there's a

(04:38):
lot of rumblings that because some gaps in the Flames
Jersey schedule that the four black sea horse head on
the shoulder is going to make an appearance or reappearance
as it were.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
That's exciting, I guess. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be
fun to see and also.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, they have fun to see, nice fun.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah. The new season of The Chain starts tonight on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Also, so oh that's right, I forget about that. I
gotta check that out.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I just saw that is I haven't watched it obviously,
I don't even know if it's all yet tonight, and
actually right now as we record, it's coming out. So okay,
lots of talk about Kyle.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
H.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Where we start is completely up to you.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I guess let's talk about the team, because the
team obviously at this point has been named and I know, well, okay,
if we're based in the last few weeks, there's no surprises.
But if we look at what we expected in the summer,
there is at least one major surprise, and that's Matt
fi Grid and making the team.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
There is there is a surprise, and I'm not Last
week we we we discussed Rory Karen's quite an yeah,
quite a bit on the show. I mean he was
kind of the topic last week. Uh and and he
had a great camp And I know I said some
controversial stuff about questioning if he's really a true NHL
or I think you said some very valid points of

(06:06):
that based off what he's done in his time in
Calgary and in camp, he deserves a shot. And I
and I honestly, you make some very valid points and
I can't argue that with you. Yeah, but I still
question if he's an NHL player, and I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well, we don't, I mean now we don't. We don't
know right well.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
We don't know, but I do believe we will find
out because I do believe you will get a call
up because injuries are already happening and and we'll continue
with Huberto out and Pospo Sol out, so they're gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I do. I don't know. You want to get controversial
right away. I I'm calling into I'm kind of questioning
some of these decisions. Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'm not kind of questioning them. I'm absolutely questioning. But
I want to touch on Karen's just real quick. Karen's
you know, since we last recorded, he didn't have his
last game is not great. Now that said, I do
feel he was perhaps judged too harshly on that. But moreover,
where I think you're going with this and correct me
if I'm wrong, is that the team has done as

(07:23):
they've traditionally done and deferred a little too much to
some of the veter guys in the team, basically gifted
them spots.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Perhaps perhaps I would agree with you to a point.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I guess we have to be more specific, right, So
go ahead, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Let me dive into that.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I thought Rory Karen's was much better than Justin Kirkland.
Oh yeah, So I don't think we would have lost
Kirkland on waivers simply because he's coming back from an injury.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Other teams are going to be wary of that. So
we could have sent him down for.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
A significant injury, like a slow you down for the
rest of your career type injury.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, I have not been impressed with him at camp
at all. He's he is a step and a half slower.
I I I just I thought it was a perfect time,
and I thought there was a perfect like reasoning behind
why you'd send him down. Okay, that's on the forward
side where I'm having some concerns with. On the defensive side,

(08:27):
the fact that we now I'm not going to get
on this show and freak out about losing Solova's Sloviov
on waivers, which should have never happened because the right
decision wasn't made. No, there is no justification that being
in Miramanov, especially Miramanoff, deserve to be on this over Slovaa.

(08:49):
There is none.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Like I'm not even saying that Slovia jumped off the
page and should I'm not. I'm just saying we lost
a young asset for Miramanoff.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Would be a mid level American Hockey League player.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Mid level well, yeah, I mean ultimately Sloviov probably projected
as a six or seventh defenseman at the NHL level,
but a very serviceable one with that could probably bump
up and a you know, move up in a pinch.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I should say, I can't argue with what you're saying
at all.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
And I know you know X was a light with
people furious over this and understandably so I what I'd
like to see, and it's a hard job I think
for the media to do is basically to ask Ryan Husker,
Craig Conroy, how do you justify keeping those guys over
a guy like Sloviov and in Kirkland's case, who to
his credit, to his credit, could end up ursurping UC

(09:43):
Oakan is the greatest shootout player of all time, which
is kind of anunofficial threat for yoking, But that's the one.
It's the only thing that he brought to the table
in training camp, absolutely the only thing. And that's not
to say he can't start to play better. But if
if training camp is actually based on merit, which we
know to a point it isn't always because guys have
big contracts, the don't want to be lost in waivers,

(10:04):
blah blah blah. But this team very clearly showed and
if Huberto wasn't hurt, what happens to Griddin?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Right? Does he actually make the team? I'm not convinced.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, and I'm okay with that, like I am, and
Griddin to me like he jumped off.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He especially the final few games when they played against
tougher opponents. This guy from nineteen years old does not
have the body of a nineteen year old and jumped
off the page.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
To me, jumped off. I was excited to watch him.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It seemed like things were happening when he would be
out there, and I think he deserved to make the team.
But I also understand, like the contract obligations, and I
do understand the manipulation that you need to do right.
But now he's gonna get his opportunity, albeit because of
an injury, which sucks, but that's usually how people get
those shots, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So what does he do with it? Right? We'll see.
I love what he brings. Like I was watching the
game that night with the last.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
One, the winn a peg one Saturday night, Friday night,
and I was like, this guy's got exactly what we need.
He's got a big body because he makes things happen. Offensively,
he seems to be for a nineteen year old pretty
strong defensively.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's it's exciting. It is really really exciting.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, guy's got a great shot.
He looked poised, He looked very, very capable in all
three zones.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
I don't I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
And I watched him play in junior last year, like
I knew he was well past the junior level. He
was dominant player, superstar in the in the Quebec League
last year, which wouldn again. But I did not expect
him to be this, even if it's only for a
handful of games. I did not expect him to make
the team.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, no, none of us did. At the be end
of the year, when camp poland did you. I didn't
pencil him and I didn't have him down.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't think anybody did.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I had him down to watch, but that was about it.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, I wonder, actually, since it's right here, you know,
the Hockey News, your book, I wonder.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Where sixth I have it in front of me too.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well, he didn't even make the depth chair for twenty
five twenty six. No, they have basically a fifth line
which was sunny of Hansik and Klapka. They had Lom yeah,
Lomber Lamberg and fourth line left wing and Kirkland at
center and fourth in the depth chart, which I get,
but I'm not entirely sold on anyway. Um, yeah, he

(12:34):
didn't even make it. And then the prospect rankings he
fell in at fifth. Great q campaign for steady score,
equally dangerous in the rush and a stationary trigger man.
We saw all that in the NHL preseason, same as
we did in Quebec Legue last year.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you see his expected NHL arrival date.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was a twenty six twenty seven. I think I
just closed.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh that's right, I remember what, Yeah, you know what
when I because when I get this, the first thing
I do is read about the flames and they had
a great article in there in Rasmusander So, by the way,
so if you haven't picked it up, please do.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
It's yeah, but I remember reading that.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm like, man that far off because when I watched
him play in the Cube, like this guy is he's
call up next year regular the following season, I would say,
based on what little I saw him, which is probably
four games, I would say.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm impressed and I'm excited to see where it goes.
I really am, I really am. I got a couple
of the questions off for you.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'm sure do you feel based off some of these
roster decisions that were made, do you feel like this
fan base is really giving Conray a pass? Because in
a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
If this was Montreal right now, I mean or Toronto, like,
there'd be a lot more.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Called to question. I think.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I think he's Conray so much that we're just like,
how dare we question him? And I'm not saying Craig
Conory is doing a bad job. That's not at all
what I'm insinuating.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm saying I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Where the justification is for mere monof and I'm sure
they'd say, well, we don't want that salary stuck in
the HL. Well, then you shouldn't asigned him and Bean
for two years. Check mark on you conray.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, I understand taking chances on players, but I guess
what his saving grace is. He's done so well with
so much of his work that people have been generally patient.
But after you know, a camp like that, and the
fact now people are freaking out as well because practice
look like he's gonna be in an opening night lineup.
It depends on how you shelter him. I mean he

(14:44):
should be running one of those power plays I think.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
But anyway, the reason I say that is, could you
script anything worse than McDavid in dryicydle lighting it up
and blowing by the young guy? He just it's not
a night to do it on Man's not well.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean, like I realized they're in Edmonton and
wouldn't have last change, So it's it's kind of a
risk in a way.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
But is it better having Jake Bean in the lineup?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, I don't know. No, I'm with you, Carl, and.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'm asking right. I'm not saying I have the answer.
I just I think the forward ranks we genuinely knew
what they were going to be. Although Morgan Frost has
had probably the most impressive camp, so hopefully that continues.
I'd love to see him the number one center spot,
push Kadre to two and back into three. But when
it comes to d it's yeah, that bottom pairing, and

(15:40):
like how that shakes out, Like, I don't know. Again
at the end of the day, just what we talked
about a few minutes ago, I don't see how if
camp is based on performance and on merit, that being
an army run off as the opening that lineup, it
doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I agree, I agree, And you know I wrote something
on x on I remember what night it was, but
I got a lot of response. I just wrote that, like,
if Perek could somehow play as offside wing like he
did in juniors and have that be successful and have
him with Pahul, I feel pretty comfortable, right. And Plus
if he somehow play that left side like he did

(16:13):
in juniors, I mean that opens up so many more
avenues for the decor and helps us out as a
franchise so much more. I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable.
But having to have Pahul come out for Perek to
come in, and then I got to pair him with
being or Miramanoff scares a living.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Hell out of me.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, as it should, right, And that's.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's as much a knock on those guys as it is.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Perrek, because I and I went up and down on
Perek last week on the show, and like, I really
have high hopes and I think offensively he's going to
be great, but I do think we need to be
really careful right away. And I know that X is
going crazy about him not being probably being in the
lineup open tonight Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
But and it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think you pick your battles a little bit, right,
And I don't even know if it's fair to him
to throw them into that first night and have something
bad happen. Now, it may not go bad and it
may go great, and I guess that's the risk you take,
but I don't know. I just feel like a two
pm Saint Louis game at the Dome sounds a lot
safer to me.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, I mean probably, but god, this is very good.
So frustrating.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Frustrated for saying that, or frustrating.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
No, no, no, frustrated because it just it just elicits
a lot of questions from me. And I do feel
when we when we do this show, a lot of
times you're throwing the questions to me, and you do
a really good job of, you know, bringing bringing some
of my thoughts to the forefront. I want to do
the same with you, especially when it comes to this stuff.
So what you just got me thinking about in talking
about this, because whether I agree or disagree, they're all

(17:53):
very valid questions and generally immigrating what you're saying. The
thing that bothers me when I think about it as
you're talking is last season we probably netted.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Do I know?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I know we netted ten points plus that we did
not deserve whatsoever because of our star goaltender. Yes, So
one thing that happened that we haven't talked about yet
that we should touch on. And before I tip my
hand on what your thoughts? How did you feel about
Ryan Huskin's extension?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, you know, and as you do this, that sets
us up for the X Factor this week.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
I never I always do that. I never know.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's great and uh, we'll fire that off right away.
And it's from Nick Bartner.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Mike, Mike, what did I say?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's my old age.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm trying to read it on the smaller screen instead
of the bigger screen in front of me, he says.
Number one, doing this the morning after an eight one
loss is hilarious. Yes, I know, it's pre season. I
thought the exact same thing, Mike, believe me. Number two,
it says, seems like a weird choice to do this now,
considering Wolf was really the sole reason they smashed expectations.

(19:09):
Point wise would have waited a month or two if
they were solid again. And I agree, Husca gets a
two year extension, and I hate gosh, I shouldn't say that,
thank you Mike for this. When I read this, I'm like,
all right, save this one.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
This is for this is for real. This is the
X factor because you make a lot of points that
I think a lot of the fan base blurred adult
to themselves right away. And it's the fact that do
we dislike Ryan Haskett. No, I can't say no, it's
not at all all.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think he's done fairly well considering the talent that
he's been given. Although last year, on the later part
of the latter part of the year, right before we
went and went on a little bit of a streak,
and even coming down the stretch, I'm looking at our
line pairings and I'm like, oh my god. And today
I look at the practice line pairings of Kadriy, Klapka

(20:10):
and Farrabee and I thought, oh my god, and our
fourth line is Kirkland Lomberg and Sharon Gulbich.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, I don't get this. I don't get this. Well,
go ahead, and then I.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Want, yeah, I don't want to cut you off because
I feel look good. Both as much to say about this,
I don't get the lines either. I just wanted to
interject with that quickly. And what I and I couldn't
agree when I saw that tweet, and I actually was
going to send it to you what I totally forgot
because that that was kind of my pick as well
for the X Factor because it's bang on. I know
it's preseasoned. I know it doesn't matter, but the timing
is hilarious and he's absolutely right. And for me, I

(20:49):
would have and it's easy for me to say, you know,
but I would have absolutely waited until you know, January
or so to start talking extension.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And Kyle, I know it's preseason, you know, but it
wasn't just an eight to one loss. It was an
eight to one loss where the team didn't even try hard.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
But again, like but even then, like, I'm not that
does concern me a bit. But again, where it's preseason,
I'm like, you know, I don't I hate preseason. I
think it's generally a waste of time. I want guys
showing up to camp in good shape, with a positive attitude,
playing their role, playing to their strengths, you know, showing
that they want to be there in the preseason games. Yes,
that they are an indicator certain things, no doubt, But

(21:32):
the bigger concern to me is that they give him
so much credit for this team working as sore hard
last year. And yes, they were a very hard working team.
They were a fit team. But he's an excellent communicator.
But Dustin Wolf is a number one reason they got
that close, and anybody who tells themselves otherwise is line
to themselves. This is a seventy five point team without
Dustin Wolf last season, so about ten wins I'm pinning
saying they were him.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, how many times have you heard the phrase a
good coach usually means you have a good goalie, yep.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well yeah, and and we both know.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I mean, you know, Hosco wins Coach of the Year
like Darryl Sunder a few years ago, it's a kiss
of death. You're gone the next season, so many, so
many times.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
So I don't want to sit here and shot on
Ryan Haskar the job he's done, because I don't think
he's necessarily done a bad job. But the lines that
you just discussed are very concerning, as you very clearly stated,
and I just I don't think it's the right time.
You don't hand a coach an extension you're in training camp.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Do you ever feel like and you know, you see
this in in in really all sports, and it's impossible
in life because we all have our favorites, right, but
I always but I after seeing this in the way
the preseason went, and I actually did not mind some
of his play during the preseason.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
There's no hope for Shure and.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Golwich to have a bad a year this year that
gets him back up. And I just he's not even
going to be given the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I I get the feeling Huskies doesn't like him, and
whatever Adam Klapka does.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Ryan Husk just.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Loves loves them, and well has looked good in camp too.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
He looked good.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But I'm sorry, I watched a lot of hockey and
he is not a first line right wing.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, no, I mean, so here's the difficulty. And I
mentioned Mike Goldilock because he has a lot of great
takes and he I believe it was Mike hoping not
mistaken here. But had he had thrown out some lines,
Robert Munich did as well. We often talk about as well,
they're thrown some lines together. That made a lot of
sense insofar as there are four capable lines. Right, So

(23:34):
if you think, let's just say for the argument's sake,
that you know that we do that Klapka's he's a
big man and a good player in that role. He
can play with a skill guy like Kaudre and Ferraby.
You know, he scored twenty in the league before, has
some wicked moves that we've seen, as we've seen. Excuse me,
but if you're gonna you're gonna work with the assumption

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you can roll four good lines, you can't roll out
a fourth line that makes no sense like that with
Kirklin Lomberg, who we said, God loved the guy shouldn't
be playing eighty two games. And Sharon Govich, who's a
streaky scoring winger with a hell of a shot who
has to play with skilled players in order to be successful.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Right, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Got Kirkland who's on a bum wheel, slower as slow
as he's been in his career, and you got Lomber,
who's not not an offensive dynamo at all.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
With Sharon Govich, Yeah, like what's he bringing to that line?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
But that's what I'm saying, Like, you can't.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
This isn't like you know NHL twenty six in my xbox,
where you can take a guy that's rated seventy seven
and put him with a guy that's rated eighty four
and a guy that's rated eighty nine and the next
line be a similar mix. Like it just it doesn't
work that way.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Well, and here's the deal too, Like, I don't know
how you feel this year.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I mean, we've named Ferraby as a guy we need,
we're kind of interested to see how it plays out,
and we've named Frost too, But two of the biggest
guys that I think need to have good years this
year are Connor Zeri and Aharon Govic. Wouldn't it have
made sense to fire them up on the front line
with kadriy and you can call the one, two and
three Yeah, I don't care. You can number them however

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the hell you want. But doesn't that make sense having
Kadri with Sharon Govich and and and Tsari and then
having you know, Lomberg, Kirkland and Klapka and then Farrabee,
Backland Coleman, like I don't know, does does that not
make a little bit more sense?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
It does.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I've actually imagined fair being that spot too, with with
Backland and Coleman, because I think, I mean, it gets
everybody a boost, right, But you can't And and what
drove me nuts last year and you heard me bitch
about it incessantly, is that everybody else who listens to
you can't roll out a fourth line against, you know,
after every goal against, like their energy line and they're

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gonna get back the It doesn't work that way. And
I don't understand that incessant thinking. So if you're gonna
build a line like that and they're gonna take a
regular shift, and I do think yes, they can string
momentum with a big hit or maybe you know, a
chippy goal like I get it, but being married to
the belief that you have to have a grind line
when you could just have four capable lines like the
ones I just mentioned had been suggested online, I don't

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get it, Like, what are you trying to do? Why
are you doing, you know, coaching like it's the mid
nineteen eighties when the hockey was way more violent, Like
I just I don't understand that. It draws me nuts.
And to your point, and I and I touched on
this as well, I don't know why. I cannot understand
why you would put a guy like.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Sharon Govic on that.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Just exactly just scratch him and say, listen, you didn't
have the best camp. We haven't given up a new
We committed to you with the contract we gave you.
You know, guys like gridd and blew the doors off
coming in here. We're gonna roll with this. But you're
gonna have an opportunity. You know, We're not gonna stick
you with a couple of plugs. And I don't mean
plugs to sound as bad as it does. Just the
reality is they're not gonna feed in the puck between

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the circles from the rip one home.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know, no, that's not their game.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's so frustrating. This is why I'm watching baseball.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
This line. I looked at it and I'm like, what
in the hell? Like he put how many times do
we say when Jeff Ward was there lines in a blender?
You know what I mean? You know what lines in
a blenders?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
To me?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Coaching? Panic, coaching panic, it's bad coaching. It's coaching panic.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Ye, speaking of bad, I gotta get your take on
the battle for the backup goalies.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh I was gonna touch on that. Yeah, and that's
one of the things I want to throw to you
for this show. So okay, cool. I was fairly convinced
that uh, Connor Ingham, Caden Primo, somebody that was known
to be available might become available, is going to be
snatched up by the Flames because the backup goalie battle

(27:46):
just went so poorly.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well the one again, like Willie Husso is on waivers
right now from Detroit, get them?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah it's Detroit, right, Yeah, I believe he's in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, I know they got a glut of goaltenders there.
So yeah, I'm I'm I'd be okay with that a
hund percent. And I will say that in those preseason games,
there was a couple of goals and it's hard to
fault the goalies on but neither one asserted himself at all,
which is a bit concerning.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
But again it's preseason. Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I didn't think that Koolie was gonna take the role
from Profsotov. I really didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I didn't either. I don't even think he deserved you.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I don't think that he didn't necessarily either.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Prosotov is a big, big goaltender, which you know, I
having somebody with the size discrepancy of a Prosotov and
a Wolf could be kind of an advantage, inn like
when it's same as when the Predators have riady A
and sorros By. No means am I suggesting our tandems
anywhere near that level, but to be able to trot out,
you know, probably like an undersized goaltender with a very
large one on a given night against a team. You know,

(28:49):
let's say those two Saint Louis games. I stuld always
talk about. You know, one night you're shooting on the
super athletic small goaltender. The next night, it's just Bmth
blocking most of the net.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
But I got it, I DA and theory, right, But.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I just if I'm the coaching staff, I'm disappointed because
neither goaltender really asserted himself.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
And did you see what do you.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
See what they're say? Percentages were heading into that final night?
Oh yeah, prosptovs were five point seven three seven and
coolies were point five to seven to one.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and both of them let in four and four, right,
I no, five and three. Anyways, I don't know. It
was ugly. It was ugly, ugly, ugly. I thought both
goalies were awful. I thought the whole team was awful
that night, but the goalies didn't help the case at
all either.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I don't know. I I do not feel comfortable with
our goaltending tandem at all.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Well and right now there's no reason to now hopefully
that you know, tries it to be different. But I
did see a couple of tweets, you know, praising Dan Fladar,
which I thought was kind of funny because you know,
he a rough start of the year last year and
was great in the second half. As we've talked about often,
end up wishing the best of luck with his, you know,
his bid to get the started job of Philly.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
But we definitely took the guy for granted a bit.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
There's no question, not a great preseason for him as
an eight point eight sixty seven save percent.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, well, and might as preseason.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I know, I know, I know, but it's interesting. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I really thought somebody was gonna step up more and
that's not at all what happened.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
So not not to poke the bear again, but I
keep seeing this where it says we have a mira
amount of on our opening night roster and slovao Off
is on Colorados and Jesus, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Well, and I said to you this. I said this
to you rather I think in a text where I don't.
I'm not at all upset about moving losing a defenseman.
We have so many between the Wranglers and the Flames,
but that's not the one I wanted to lose.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Is now.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
If I had to choose between him and because nets Off,
I'm glad we kept his nets Off because he's a
bit younger, right.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yes, I like Kaz, but he could make a bid.
Would you not feel more comfortable having him in there
than being in Marimounta.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I would, Yeah, we all would, based on their performance,
you know, last year, training camp, you name it.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
The thing.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
The thing is kind of we preached and preached and
preached for years now about asset management. And I'm not
saying that Iliyas sloviav changes the needle, right, but you
still can't lose guys like him who's a stay at
home defenseman, which we need in our organization because we're
a little top heavy on in the in the prospect

(31:38):
category of offensive shifty defenseman. Come on, we can't keep
losing these parts, you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
We just can't.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
No, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
It's again it comes back to that basic tenet of
deference to established NHLers. And again I want like I
want to be. It's it's such a competitive sport. There's
only so many jobs. And I talked about that not
long ago my buddy that scouts in the league, and
he talked about the scouting side of it and how
there's so few jobs. Right, there's Sophie coaching up. There's

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so few playing jobs. I know that being a mirror
monoff the two guys we keep talking about obviously have
good qualities, they're obviously very good professional hockey players.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
But the fact that.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Those two and it could be you know, player X
and player why doesn't we're not top of those two
in particular. But in this case, it's those two that
it's like they're just being given opportunity after too many opportunity.
Why because of one way deal, because they make over
a million bucks, because Jake name was the first round pick,
because miror Monoff was the part of the return of
the Hannafin trade. Like there's this what's that called? Oh,

(32:45):
it's like a fallacy like sun cost fallacy. Right, So
we put assets into getting these guys, so this guy
has a certain pedigree, so we got to keep rolling
with it.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
It's like, no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's okay to cut bait every team in this league.
There isn't a team out there that doesn't make mistake.
You know what, you know what good management does. You
know what, Eh took a risk on Miramana.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
If it was a couple million dollar risk, we threw
it out there, didn't work.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Or moving on?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, right, No, Instead we're gonna keep shoving him out
there and he doesn't play physical, he doesn't score points,
he doesn't I don't know, and I'm not trying to
just pick on him tonight, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It just it just doesn't make sense. It just it
just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
No, no, and I don't you can't make a rational
argument for I mean, you can have one of them
on the roster, you're just not in the open at night,
you know, line up.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I'm fine with Jake being being there as a safety measure.
I'm actually fine with that.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And I've had you know, I've had high hopes for
Ramunta for a while. I know he came to camp
an excellent shape. But again, if we're basing this on
how players performed, it doesn't make any sense. And there's
no logical argument for why the both of them are there.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
So he didn't even hardly play it camp up.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Marimouanov, Yes, no, he probably played it all.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I know, which is another puzzling thing.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Well, and if I recall correctly, and you know, correct
me if I'm wrong, or maybe somebody else can. But
I do believe somebody in the hockey community, one of
the insiders, had said the Flames and Meriamountov are trying
to find a home for him.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I find a home fro him. He would not get
claimed on waivers. I promise you that.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Well, it could have been a future considerations trade, it
could have been an exist strategy from the go play
in Russia. Like I don't, I have no idea. I'm
not going to pretend to have any incident of that
because I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
But it still may happen, right.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
And you know what, somebody could get hurt. One of
these guys could step up. You know, Jake Bean's Eggs
interview last year was one of the best ones that
I watched. It was very insightful and personal from him,
and I hope somebody does step up. But I mean,
as it currently stands, these decisions do not make sense,
and I don't think anybody's gonna feel otherwise about that.
I'd be surprised I did.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Another thing I want to bring up too, is like
can we sit this in the show before too? But like,
I don't say these things like that as a personal attack.
I'm just I'm stating the facts of what I'm seeing,
and like I don't wish bad, like I pray that
like he gets an opportunity and I'm completely wrong and
I will come on the show and say I was

(35:18):
stole off base there. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I want him to prove me wrong. But prove me wrong, right,
You've been given opportunities and you've yet to prove me wrong.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, so yep, I get it. Anyway, We'll see how
it plays out. It's going to be Oh, it's gonna
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Zane Perrect changes his number to nineteen and Gridden changes
his tow ninety two.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Thoughts, well, I love ninety two, and I know you
really like fifty one.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I love fifty one.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I don't know, and I don't know why either, because
I was trying to think of why that might be.
I couldn't even think of another NHL player the war
fifty one.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I want to know.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Why, because I've five has always been my favorite number.
It's always been my favorite number.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Number.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Five is well, I don't remember a flame wing fifty one.
And this guy like bounced for me. He like stood
out so much in this camp that I was so
excited about him. I'm just like, all right, I don't know,
only fifty ones.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I love it. It just it just seemed to fit right.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, And I said to you, and and Mike Gold
has said this as well. Actually, ninety two just felt
like a star player kind of number. Yeah, and it's
not unusual when a guy makes a team that, like,
you know, I'm an established guy, right.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
So who do you think of when you see ninety
two in the Flames?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Michael Nielander, Me too, Yeah, probably the last one to
wear it as a flame. I'm sure I'm confident of that.
In fact, you know, training camp numbers aside, now, perrec
I like, I actually preferred eighty nine because that was
the Cup year it was different. But more importantly than
my personal preference in my own mind, is the fact

(36:50):
that he has taken over a number that was previously
worn by a star Flame. So now hopefully we can
start to turn the page and recognizing and PreK in
the new star Waring nineteen because not I mean not
god man, it's nineteen, you know, Joe Sakik, Steve Eiserman,
you know what I mean. Like, it's a match ka Chuck,
it's a star player's number.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's a forward number two. That's what scares me.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Well, it's like a forward so.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I know, just plays the defense. So just don't score
more than you cause please, I.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Actually, well, he needs to find the right This is
not unlike to me, like when the Flames acquired Roman
Hammer looked to bring on bring along Dean for enough.
Whether it's whether it's a guy like maybe a Braden
Bahal or even a Mackenzie Wieger who's great at both
ends of the eyes, or somebody that don't have yet there.
We need to find the right partner, you know, because
Prec is young, you know, young and so skilled, and.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I wanted him so badly to work out on the
left and then have them paired with Wiger because I
trust Wigers so much, you know, I just it would
have helped his career too quickly. We better do Pacific
Division predictions. And I don't know how you want to
do this. If you want to like.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Go back and forth from let's go back and forth
from first.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay, okay, do you go first? Who wins the Pacific
Division this year?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Golden Knights? That's what I have too debate.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
And I'll give it because we're already running, you know, behind,
because we got rambles so much. We'll give a quick
reason maybe for why we think each one the gold Knights.
I think you addition to Mitch Murner just in the
regular season at least gives them a major, major scoring boost,
and they still have most of the pieces in place.
Jack Icle, you know, they're just They're just a they're
deep team top to bottom. I don't necessarily have them
pegg to win a Cup, but I do see them

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winning the Pacific.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Deep and aggressive.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Okay, all right, number two, you go, then I'll go.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Bind Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Okay, this is where we differ. So why do you
have the others?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I have the Oilers just because I know they're goaltending,
and I've called their goaltending into question, yeah forever. I
actually don't think the Oilers are as good as the
last year's team, But I also look at McDavid and
dry Cydle and it's like.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
That that's just that's just me.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I don't think they go far far in the postseason
at all this year, just because I think they've tried
to take a bunch of like third and fourth line
guys that are cheap and just throw them in there
and pray it works. And I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
What happens, and sometimes it does, like it did for
the Penguins years ago, but they also had Marc Andre
Fleury and then Matt Murray and at the time at
least a net right.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Big difference and huge difference.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
But I do think that the offensive punch they're gonna
bring is going to get them at least a second
to the Pacific.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I've got the La Kings. And the main reason that
I have the LA Kings is like Campe is an
absolute star Copa Teraires last season in the league. You know,
the best probably two way center in the league right now.
Well him and Crosby. You know, I like a lot
of what that. I didn't like the trade Jordan Spence,
mind you, but I think the Kings are a team

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that's on the rise. The Oilers, I feel, especially their
goaltending concerns, and I don't I don't love their defense
at all. I feel like they've kind of dropp off
a bit. So I had the Kings at number two.
Who'd you have a three?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
This one.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I went back and forth really hard on this one
between my three and four. But I'm gonna this is
a little bit of a surprise pick. I have the
Vancouver Canucks, and you know, how much I love the Canucks,
But I do do you think I do think the
Hughes noise is gonna is gonna keep getting bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
But I'm gonna do a little reverse psychology here. I'm
wondering if the Hughes noise doesn't get bigger and bigger.
And I really honestly don't think Quinn Hughes cares, but
I wonder if that takes a little bit of the
heat off Pederson, and I wonder if we don't see
a little bit of a minor bounce back year for him,
And uh, can you get any more controversial and wild
of a year than you had last year in Vancouver?

(40:45):
I think it'll be calmer Waters. I can't believe I'm
saying that to a team that picked up a vander Kaine,
but I do. I just I feel like they're going
to figure out a way to to get enough points
and get into that third spot.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
I was just gonna mention Kane, and you know, I
think he's calmed down a bit as he's getten a
little longer than the two. Yeah, And I can understand
why you're coming from. You know, Patterson is going to
have probably a at least relatively speaking, a monster year,
like eighty ish points.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But I have to believe that's probably like a. This
is probably a huge risk for me too, because I
have zero faith that Demko will stay healthy all year either.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
So, but Kevin Laknan was great for them last year,
so you know out of a coin toss there that
they're probably the hardest team to peg.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
In the Pacific, I would say yep.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
So I had the Oilers in at three for the
reasons if I've discussed, They have as much, if not
more star power to be in the league, but I
questioned their depth, so I have them at three.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I have the LA Kings, and fourth. I think the
Kings are going to be a great team. I just
don't know if they have.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I don't know I have.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I've struggled a little bit on I was really high
on the Kings last year and they kind of let
me down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
But I'm having a hard time determining what direction this
team's going with some of the moose they made. So
I got them picked it forth.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, and I absolutely get that. I've got the Flames
actually at fourth, the biggest reason being and I could
be wrong on this, but Dustin Wolf is absolutely phenomenal
based on his track record, his entire life. I don't
see him having any kind of sophomore slump, and I
expect more from Morgan Frost, Connor Zerry, Kevin Ball. I
don't think Anderson's going to be the distraction has been

(42:14):
made out to be, as the Flame has done a
really good job of, you know, dealing with that to
this point, and a lot of it is going to
hande on guys like correct, you know, being ready to
play in the NHL as well. But again a difficult
one to pay. But I think the Flames are going
to take a step forward and not the step back
that so many you know, pundits have suggested.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Number five fifth they have the Anaheim Ducks. Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I like this team's direction. I feel like it's love.
I love their goaltending. Albeit I believe there's an injury,
slight injury the.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Dust Yeah, I didn't see that, but I mean, I
haven't paid too much tench in the night.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I could be, it could be, it could be wrong
on that, but I I just like some of the
direction of this team. I like what Pat Verbeek's doing,
and I don't know. I think it's time that they
start to move up the ladder. I still they're still
not making the playoffs, but kind of move up the
ladder a little bit, right.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, and they mean they locked up some key pieces
this summer with McTavish and whose defense when they just
signed Oh that's terrible. It's just the other day too.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Anyway, it's gonna drive you not too might as well
look it up. I'm drawn blanks here right.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Now too, right now before I really go crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Anaheim's one of those teams like they haven't had much
for so long that.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
It's Jackson Lacombe.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, and he's they paid him big time, but he is.
He is a secretly good player.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, absolutely very underrated, very lesser known in the league.
But I mean the Ducks have been under the radar
for a while. Fifth for me was the weird doing five. Yeah,
Vancouver Canucks for the reasons you alluded, see him a
little bit higher, just really really hard to peg. I
think I don't think bringing Kine was necessarily a great idea,
but you know, we'll see how that pans out. I
won't judge too harshly before they don't play the first game.

(44:02):
Patterson's too good to be that bad again. Quinn Hughes
is otherworldly. Goaltending is a big question mark, as well
as your depth of Connor Garland is a sneaky good player. Yeah,
I've got the Canucks.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Of five, number six, the boy, here's where the stone
start flying at me. I got the Seattle cracking at six. Wow,
I don't like the cracking.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I'd to be actually, and we'll do the let the
last three teams a little bit quicker. I guess I
have the Ducks at six because I'm just not convinced
ready to turn the corner. And I had the cracking
at seven.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I have the Calgary Flames at seven. And please don't
tweet me with hate.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I just here, here's my thought process.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I look at our roster last year and it's like
Huberto was better, Cadery was all world, Cornado was really
good during Govic not. I mean, list goes on and on, right,
But we had a lot of guys that stepped up,
and you know, we had Ball emerge. We had Handley
play probably better than we can ever ask him to
play again.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Paul step up into a position that I believe.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
But but I believe believe that Pahul is that this
is Pahul, So I believe that that'll be level right, absolutely,
But you know, I look at what Dustin Wolf did
and I felt like our roster was stronger defensively, and
I worry about not even I'm not even calling it
a sophomore slump. I'm calling it he's going to be

(45:29):
pushed into more and more and more situations. And I'm
not saying he's not going to have a hell of
a year and still have his trajectory go up. I
just think the road's going to be really hard for
a young team.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yeah, And I can totally see that. And this this
is what makes it.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
If you look at the predictions of the Hockey News
we talked about, I mean they're all over the map, right,
I mean there's a lot of consistency too, especially in
the upper echelon.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
But or to seven and predictions.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
The easiest one to peg here, of course, is the
sent as a shark's dead last. They're just they're just
they're they're just not there yet. There was something in
the Hockey News about you know, them taking a step.
I don't see them taking a step. Celebrity might. I mean,
Tafoli is getting along in the tooth, ask her off.
I don't know if he's ready to be a full time,
bonified starter or not, but I think the potential is

(46:15):
there and net they're they're just They're gonna be a
great team in three four years probably, but they're not
there yet.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I don't even think they are in three or four years,
because I still question a little bit of their direction.
But I mean, that's either here nor there. I mean,
I don't I watched the Sharks knock us out of
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
In the early nineties. I don't care if they're ever
good again.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
The thing that really interested me too, And I want
to throw this out there before I because I had
it paid saved earlier. I just want to make sure
I credit the right people in case he turned out
to be right. Every year the Hockey News releases here
it is. There are twenty fantasy questions. Did you read
this part yet?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
No? I have not read the fantasy part. I read
the whole part.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I'm gonna spoil two quick things for you, Okay, So
which goalie will win the Vesna twenty five twenty six?
Three of the six had selected Connor Helibuck. Understandably, Brian Costello,
one of the editors, had picked dustin Wolf really, which
is fascinating. The other one, perhaps even more surprisingly, we
all know how good Wolf is. Who's your sleeper pick?

(47:18):
Lundel Drew NIC's Zigris Mitchelle Nick Emmnueli has Connor Zari.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
As a sleeper pick for the season.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Really.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yep, So those were the only two Flames mentioned in
that litany of questions about you know, who wins this,
who wins that, which coach side first?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Whatever?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
But those are I mean the Wolf one, it's a
long shot on a team as middling as the Flames
currently is are.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
I should say the Zari one.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Hey, maybe he surprises and reaches sixty some points?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Would you be shocked for me to say, like, I
could see Zari having an All World year, and I
could see him having a really tough year.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I really could.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah. Well, I think with him the concern the buzzwords
are gonna be like injury prone. I don't think he's
well No, I think both those injuries to his knees
were largely you know, freakish.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, but until he has.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
A full season, who we're in he scores fifty some
points or more, those questions will persist.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
So yeah, yeah, I get see a.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Lot of my Flames. Breakout player of the Year is
this year.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Joel Farrabee.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's a that's a bold prediction.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
He's gonna make a lot of people eat their words.
I feel like he's gonna have a really good year.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Twenty twenty, be good for him. Twenty goals, twenty sis.
I'd love to see that.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I think Morgan Frost is he looks like, hey, I
see an opportunity here and I'm season it. And again
it was just preseason, but overall had a great camp.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Oh but you know what me and you have talked
about hundred how many posted that guy hit last year?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
How many like players were?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
It was like him and him and sorry, Morgan Frost
and Connors are the two guys where it's like that
would have in a highlight reel play. The only one
to pull one off, incidentally, it was Joe Ferby. But
the other thing we should mention, and one of the
reasons I have the Flames up that high is that
if Rasmus Anderson plays well. And remember, and I didn't

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know this, he had a broken bone in his foot.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, for the whole Like the last thirty games.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I believe something.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, I was twenty or thirty was a significant amount
of time. But if he is actually dialed in and playing, well,
that's a big Even if he has a movie to
the deadline or whatever like, that's a big, big plus
fifteam people often forget. I certainly forgot and was very
critical of him, but you know, he played hurt for
a good chunk of the year. So really interesting to
see what.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
What it's like.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
And it seems to me apart from us Tigman right now,
the trade talker him has already died down as the
season gets ready to start.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So I haven't heard anything.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Well, let's hope it stay that way until something actually happens.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, it'll heat up. I guess it'll heat up.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
But you know, a lot of the talk with McDavid
and and those guys have sheltered the Anderson talk, Like
David does resign. We aren't going to dive too deep
into that just because we are running out of time
here tonight.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
And uh, well it's it's a two year extension to
the same money.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
He's leaving some money on the table.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
The first thing to do is signed Jake Walman for
a ton of money, which kind of shocked me.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
But he's leaving like five million dollars on the table,
seven million dollars. You could argue, whatever, it's a crazy contract.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
To me.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, it's a head scratcher. I don't know. I don't know.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I do believe that if this guy doesn't see it,
doesn't win a Cup in two years, he's gone.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Well, I think that's the that's the design of the contract, right, so.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Good luck.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Well it gives them more opportunity, but again, like to
immediately turn and sign Jake Walman and Welman's a good
defense with that kind of money, and like this doesn't
move the needle for them.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
No, I'm with him, all right, Flames fans, that was
a lot, and it was we probably could go out
for thirty forty more more minutes, but we know you
have a life, and uh, I go watch the Jays.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
So it's two nothing Toronto. I was just told. So
there you go.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
That is it.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
We're gonna get out of here this week. This podcast
drops Wednesday morning. Enjoy It Game Day in Edmonton Wednesday night.
Start the season Thursday night, back to back in Vancouver,
Saturday at home, and in a lovely afternoon game with the.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Saint Louis Blues.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
This season is off and running, and uh yeah, it's
gonna be a lot of fun, you know what.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I think.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
There's gonna be some big surprises this year, good and bad,
and it's gonna be a lot to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And we're gonna be here every single week to do
that and we're both looking forward.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
So this is this is fun.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
We're all over the place, but this is this is
funn You can tell the sea all right, do.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
You take careful? See you next week.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And shitty step.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Trump, shitty street Trump, shitty step Trump, shitty Let's spit.

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