April 16, 2025 • 52 mins
Flames Life Support “Wild”ly Unplugged – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 238
Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
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Flames playoff hopes shattered by Wild and Blues win
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Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
--- EPISODE 238 ---
GAME RECAPS – Cgy@SJ | Cgy@Ana | Min@Cgy | SJ@Cgy | VGK@Cgy
Flames playoff hopes shattered by Wild and Blues win
Youth called on for final game
FLAMES NEWS- Signings, +/- and NHL News
X-FACTOR- Parekh Not Playing - @connie_szn and @rashid_tayyab
GAME PREVIEWS – Cgy@LA
Website: Flames Unfiltered
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts
Watch: YouTUBE
Social Media – X - @FlameUnfiltered |FACEBOOK – Flames Unfiltered |INSTAGRAM – Flames Unfiltered | TikTok – flames.unfiltered
NHL #HockeyX #TalkinHockey #HockeyPodcast #Flames #cofred #nhlflames #calgaryflames #YYC #FireItUp
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
The money anything. Hey, everybody, welcome to the post mortem
edition of Flames and Filter. If we are your host.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Kyle Lewis and Brandford.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I never know how to start a lot of these
shows when I start them, and this one in particular
is perhaps the most definitely won't start yet. So well,
you know what's funny. I was explaining it today to
a coworker. I for me, it's like it's almost like
I have one less responsibility. So I'm not happy about it.
(00:57):
In fact, it's quite sad, but it's like now it
was just like, Okay, well I don't worry about that anymore.
So yeah, I'll stress about something else. And I just
had some fun on X with it last night. Just
posted a bunch of ridiculous tweets.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I read them, you know, I did. I've had a
few that were stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know, like last night was it was you remember
the night we had the trade night this year when
Frost and Farrabee and the excitement that there was with.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That so fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, like last night had a little bit of that, uh,
that Super Tuesday feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But like.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
This whole last week has been like this. Teams never
say die, but they just like keep self inflicting wounds
along the way and making it harder. And then last night,
like I was excited, I was excited to watch, and
then Utah just falls apart. Saint Louis gets out to
this quickly for nothing. In the first I'm like that
(02:03):
game's done. I'm done. I'm sick of Utah. And then
I'm like watching and all I could think the whole
time is like I live next door to Minnesota. I
know Minnesota sports. These guys choke, they choke, and they
get down to Anaheim and I'm like, oh, here we go.
But then I'm thinking I'm gonna be really I'll be
more pissed. I was gonna be more pissed today. If
(02:24):
we would have lost and Anaheim would have won, I'd
have been more pissed today.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But we came back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We took care of our business and come back and
win it in overtime or shootout whatever, same thing. We
get two points, let's call it that, and then twenty
seconds eighteen something and it's like, ugh, got re gene.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was this really shitty feeling. I was
kind of like blown away too and dive in a
little bit of this, I didn't. I knew it had
been a while. I didn't realize it was twenty six
games since Morgan frost last quarter goal me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Either, because I thought the last ten, like I did
have some frustration with him, but the last ten games
that was really actually happy with the way he played
and he was creating chances, and all I could think
of was they're gonna start going.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
In Yeah, yeah, well, you know that's kind of you
know what I mean, the way that he's the way
that he's played. I mean, he's defully created some chances
of late, but anyway, I mean, it's easy to pick
on individual players in the situation like this, but ultimately
I'm struggling with with the competing narratives, Like there's obviously
(03:40):
a lot of people that are proud, and mcken zweiger
echo that post game and rightfully so, but ultimately the
team definitely overachieved but still didn't get the dablem Like.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't know, maybe I'm an ass, but I mean
I think it's good for like the players to be proud,
but like, and I think that's kind of a and
I and I like McKenzie Leeger and I mean me
and you have talked about it frequently that he's probably
in line for me to be the next captain of
this team, and I have a ton of respect for him.
But I hate those words, and I is it bad.
(04:18):
I mean, I kind of expected to see a little
more anger out of the Flames last night, like mad
at themselves. It's like, I mean, they they took care
of business, so it's there. It's hard to be mad then,
but they didn't take care of business. And I can
point to the game last Wednesday, April ninth, Anaheim three
(04:38):
to one lead, four minutes to go, and you only
get a point. That point right there, that point, you're out.
You know, we talked about the Saint Louis, the two
games in St. Louis all year, right, those are defining
moments in the season, and I still think those are
critical aspects in us not taking st It was the spot.
(05:01):
But I'm telling you that loss on Wednesday night stick
a knife in your heart.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That was it. That was it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I mean I've been kind of tolling that line
for a little while now, believing that they weren't going
to make it as much as I wanted them to.
And ultimately, yeah, we could point to several points in
the season where they just were good enough. But I
agree with your point about the anchor, because yeah, you know,
again the team, they should be proud of a lot
of what they accomplished, but.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They overachieved all of our expectations, all of them. I
have our predictions. We'll talk about in next episode were
they overachieved. But you're right, Kyle, Like last Wednesday night,
like I didn't feel like they were as pissed off
as they should have been at that effort last in
the last four minutes, My goodness, that's a point. They
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gave away, a point, they actually handed a point. We
have numerous situations this year where you know, the Saint
Louis sticks out. You know, I know a lot of
people talk about on on X last night and today
about well if we just those if they would accounted
one of those pucks over the line, and I couldn't
agree more. But I can't control that, and the Flames
can't control that, but they sure as hell could have
(06:14):
controlled At sixteen oh two of the third period, a
three to one lead against one of the worst teams
in the league is the Anaheim Ducks, and we only
get a point that was in their control and they
didn't take care of business that night, and now they're
out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
No, exactly, and there was and again there was several
other nights we could point to where they didn't take
care of business, where they they fell apart, where the
generator zero offense for the power play failed them. Are
rarely any issues with goaltending when we talked about so.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I didn't think Dustin Wolf was great in the early
parts of last night the latter parts of the game
is unreal, unbelievable. And for me to even say that
he wasn't great in the beginning, I should probably punch
myself because there's been so many, so many nights that
he's been just flat out amazing. And I'm going to
(07:05):
contradict exactly what I said about being mad if as
Flame fans, there is one thing we need to be
happy with with this season done, Dustin Wolf. Well, we
know we have a starting goalie now.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But we have a franchise goal ethic.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Absolutely, So what is that that think about that think
how important that is to the future success And we've
established that now in this season. That's a win, right,
that's a that's a check mark in a positive way.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, this is what you know, how I stick. I
get stuck on stats sometimes. This is what I'm kind
of stuck on. I presume they're going to give the
last game of the season to Wolf. Either wins, and
I said, well they should, because I don't know if
that Iar is playing another game here. But also Wolf
as a twenty nine wins and he deserves a chance
to grap thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I just think that here's here's gonna be my tell
me how I'm wrong on this one. I think this
team wants to sign Dan Valadar because I think this
is a good, good tandem.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I do. I really think it's a good tandem.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, I did.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And I think they're gonna give him the last game
and we'll see what happens. I could be completely wrong
on that. I just think they rode will hard hard hard.
And I know this doesn't matter if we win or lose.
But with these young players that we'll talk about here
in a little bit gonna be playing, it'd be kind
of fun and with two points, and I think both
(08:33):
Vodar and We'll give you that chance. And I just
think that maybe we throw a bone to Voidar and
maybe try to get this guy signed it maybe equal
to dollars as he is right now, and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But I don't know. I don't know, and.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm okay with that too. I mean, Vladar is expressed
willing to stay in Calgary, but I think now knowing
that it's no longer a fight for starts because he's
the only getting what he's gonna get, he might be
inclined to applis trade elsewhere if there's opportunities elsewhere, which
I suspect it will be, but we will. That's probably
the least of our concerns right now, So we'll see
how that plays out over the coming months.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I think that I don't very rarely on this
show do I not want to talk about something, But
right there, I don't really want to talk about that
much more because we need to save that when we
need something to talk about in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right Yeah, and as and the biggest thing is, like
we talked about it, it's it's the least of our concerns.
I mean, everybody wants reliable backup, but it's a hell
of a lot more important of a franchise goalie. We
now have one, so that I do think.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Though that the league, I mean, just hear me out
on this. I the league has changed. And as much
as Wolf is going to be our franchise goalie and
is probably going to get fifty fifty five starts and
I maybe even sixty, I don't know, I'm going to
be pushing it, We're still going to need a quality
(09:53):
guy that's going to you know, you know, be able
to put in thirty games for us, and I don't
know that that's not Dan Vodar. And the one of
the reasons I think maybe that Dan vor would be
an option is I feel like we could get him
at a fairly decent price.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh yeah, and he's obviously he is going to be
an option. But it's a hell a lot easier to
find a reliable backup than his franchise goalie. So absolutely,
But the days of anybody playing sixty five plus games,
certainly seventy plus anyway, are long gone, and you know,
thankfully so, you know, for the sake of the goaltenders. Yeah,
but I mean, you know, looking back, and we'll get
(10:29):
more into some retrospect on the weeks ahead. Obviously, but
there's a lot of things that'd be really really happy
about Jonathan Huberto having a strong year next to the
Wolf emergence. The next thing that would I would point
to right away as Matthew Cornado was a legitimate NHL
goal scorer. And I'm going to say right now he's
going to pot thirty to forty next year of barring injury.
(10:52):
But at the very least we know that he's very,
very capable. Connors are showed significant progress despite some injury
troubles kind of fluke injury tumbles, really the same injury.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like Yeah, you know, I always I always think it's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You know, I did see that Ryan Husker said he
has resumed skating and in the recent days. And I
don't think we'll see him tomorrow night, nor do I
want to think we should. But you know, I always
look at things and I always hear people say, well,
the guy's injury prone. Well I don't really consider Connor's
our injury prone. When it's like two kind of ones.
(11:28):
A knee that's a penalty and the other one was
just like a real fluke. Yeah, get caught up. So
I don't know, I mean, is he injury prone. No,
is he unlucky this year?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah? Probably fair to say.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh yeah, most certainly. West There's no question.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When I when we look at Connor's are and we're
gonna dig deep into this in the coming weeks. But
when we when, what do we learn? Is he a center?
Is he still better on the wing? Or I feel
like he's better on the wing, but I want him
to be a center, but he's better on the wing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that fair? Well? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Right now? He's better in the wing, But I think
he's going to be a center.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I think so. You know, And again we both
said that we'll get into this later on if we're
going to talk about things that kind of derailed the season,
apart from giving points away when they shouldn't have, you know,
Frost disappearing, Zara getting injured. I am with a tumple
of things that we make us mad. I'm kind of
mad that you Grey Sharon Govitz just started to play
(12:23):
half decent in the last two weeks of the season.
Are you absolutely? He failed this team miserably for months
at a time, and that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So I agree with you that everything you just said
is one correct, But to flip that on the positive,
I'd be more pissed if we went into this offseason
thinking that he was a complete bust.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because oh yeah, at least.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Now I'm looking at the roster for next year and
I'm like, okay, like maybe he can bring some scoring
to a third line for us, and he's dynamic enough
to the third line versatle enough he can take some
draws in a pinch, So at least I feel like
we have a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Viable roster slot.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Whereas I was honestly looking at I always project out
the roster right and I was like, God, do we
buy this guy out? I was like, put him in
the buyout calculator. Yet, you know, so maybe I mean,
I'm not saying that problems solve you go Sharon Gowich
pots a couple and things are great and sharing Golviich Land.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying Legoland Lego Land
(13:25):
to make cose, But did you know what I mean? Though,
Like I feel like we're a little bit psychology off
with him starting to show.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He looks like guy we talked about this last year
and I keep interrupting you.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm sorry, did you you know something It's funny how
when a guy's attitude looks like it's better, like they
start producing more. And I don't know if their attitude
gets better because they are producing. That's probably the better
way to put it. But he looks like he's having
a lot more fun right now, but.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
He probably is or was. I mean, anyway to your point,
I mean, it's good to have things look forward to
going the next season, and him seemingly figuring out how
to play hockey again is obviously a big help. But yeah,
back to the things that pissed me off, because this
should be a little bit an angry show. His disappearance
(14:21):
and very untimely re emergence not timely enough, I should say,
I don't know what the hell happened to Joel Fairbray
after he scored a damn near goal of the year
candidate in Dallas and then just fell off the planet.
So not real happy with him.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Arab Is he the future Blake Coleman on this team?
I don't mean not a bad way. I mean that
in a good way.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean I wish.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I have a hard time.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I have a hard time believing that the Farrabe that
we saw the latter part of this season is a
fair bee we're going to.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
See the next few years. I just do.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Maybe maybe I'm just being stupidly up a mystic, but
why are you optimistic?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I should be more pissy, shouldn't I maybe i'd help
the ratings of those more much.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm not sure which one's more annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All shots from you're just firing shots at me.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
This fire shots everywhere right now. But I'm almost remendless.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
He's got eleven goals this year, and you know he's yeah,
is twenty twenty two? That's what he was getting.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, I feel like we're going to get that
back again. I was he missed a little bit. Maybe
it should be like a third line winger in my mind.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Maybe probably a bit. I mean, we've expressed some frustration
throughout the season with some of Husker's tactics and player deployment.
But I'm not going to throw on the towel on
the guy. Yet. But I mean he certainly left a
lot to be desired.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I agree. You want to talk about another guy that's
left a lot to be desired.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Number four.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Minus thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
So this in perspective, and then I'm gonna let you
comment McKenzie Leiger plus eighteen.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Fire go, that's wild, that's what awoof. That's a contrast
right there, Ladies and gents. Um okay, So as far
as that situation goes, that's stat. You say, minus thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Eight, minus thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The second words on the flames is nosen kadri at
minus nineteen.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, and you know what. Okay, So here's the thing,
this is all right. Now. You got me really going
here because somebody I forget who it was because I
didn't care enough to remember it, but somebody responded to
me on X about you know, all Vegkans scored fifty
one goals when you're was a minus twenty eight or
something like that doesn't that doesn't negate the importance of
plus minus plus. Now plus minus is a team stat
(16:49):
generally speaking. However, what I take issue with when you're
trying to defend a guy who's minus a million, you
better dan well score like a you know, twenty seventeen
Eric Carlson to justify it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So let me ask you this, who did Anderson play
with ninety eight percent of this year? Kevin Ball, Kevin
Ball's minus nine.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, but here's the different And again, here's the difference.
This is what I want to point out because this
is very very important in both the case of Cadrey
and Anderson. Cadre very much was a player of you
love what he gives you and you hate at certain
moments what he gives you. He gave us the last
two years. He has as many highlight reel goals as anybody,
and he's a big game player.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I agree. He really proved me wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, and we saw some gregious errors at times, but
they were worth what he gave us Otherwise, Again, generally
speaking as I just said about, you know, a guy
like Eric Carlson, this prime you have to score. Actually,
I think I said my response fifty some points plus
to justify having that bad of a plus minus to
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even attempt to justify it. But the bigger thing is
in both those players' cases, and this is where I
get really pissed off about it, is if you're looking
at stats, it's one thing. If you're watching the games
as another right. If you're watching the games, and in
Kadrew's case, I know Dan well, you can remember a
few major errors that he made.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, he was in on the Anaheim debacle.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah exactly. And night after night after night after night,
we watched Anderson make terrible defensive decisions many many times
with different jersey, different colored jerseys around his net. I
could see him like looking up standing to the side
of the crease, out of position, allowing the goal to
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be scored. He had a terrible, terrible season. I'm not
saying Restmus Anderson's a bad player. I was saying a
horrible season. Had he been at least average, would be
in the playoffs right now. But he wasn't. He was
nowhere near good enough. And I'm very curious to hear
his garbage Bay Day interview.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Me too. But you know what else I'm also interested
to hear.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I would love to be a fly on the wall
during negotiations when Craig Connory goes, but you're minus you went?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
How much you were minus thirty eight? Yeah? How much
do you? Did? You just say nine?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like I think that's perfically going to be a conversation,
Like I I I, how do you? How do you
go to the table leveraging eight or nine million dollars
in eight for eight years with those numbers, and I
know there's a whole hell of a lot more to
the a player than his plus minus.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Sure, he had eleven goals.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't think you should have a patented shirt T
shirt made stare when you only score eleven.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well, if you're going to be an iconic stare, which.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Was it was.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But but yeah, he's You're absolutely right, he's not. He
just he didn't do like it. It's just a frustrated
you know. Was he a you know, dynamo in the
power play? No? Was he defensive stalwart? No? It's like, okay,
what are we talking about here? Tell me what makes
Rasmus Anderson so important to this team?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The perception is that he's like, I mean, seriously, like
the p option or Rasmuth Anderson isn't a somewhat elite
defenseman in the league. And I'm not saying he can't be,
and I'm not saying at some points of his career
he has been. But boy, am I not ready to
give eight years to this guy?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No? No, god, no ah ah. Anyway, Okay, so let's
you know, in light of this conversation, because he anders
thing is going to go in for a while, we'll
be talking with it several more times. I want to
do like a quick quick hits and I promise this
to some people on X and I got a few likes.
So just to kind of some quick hits on guys
that we'd bring back with a quick reason why. So,
(20:35):
I'm gonna throw a couple of names at you because
you often ask me the questions at least, so it
feels I'm gonna throw a few names at you, and
I want your opinion. It's what we're gonna do with them.
So number one, and I know you're excited for this one,
Kevin Riney, gosh, oh, you gotta think about this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I sometimes I do dumb things. Cal you know.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No, I don't want to keep him, but the only
thing that makes me hesitate slightly is I love what
he brings to our penalty kill And if the fourth
line is built correctly, I think he's suitable because I
(21:24):
know the praise take would be low, way lower than
what he's getting.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Now, Well, that puts you blow a million, which I'm
I would be okay with that. If it's two way.
I don't want him in a one way contract.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well he'll have to be in a one way because
someone will give him a one way just because of
his penalty killing not.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Ability that they can have him take.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And you know what, if somebody takes him, I'm not
losing any sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah no, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to
hear it. But I think that's a fair answer. Who
else Joel Hanley?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Sign him as my seventh guy? I want him as
miss seventh guy. But I got two guys that I okay,
I got I want him as my seventh. I'm afraid
we're stuck with Jake Bean as our seventh.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I see could be waited.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here's what I do.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I sign Hanley for a million, and I bury Bean
in the minors.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't. The problem though, is that, as I said
all year, I think Hamley's played over his head. To
his credit, he's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Perfect, but our defense is built right, He's a perfect
seven guy, right.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Oh yeah? And it could maybe even play you know,
five or six type situation. But uh, my concern is
that after the season he had somebody else gonna say,
we'll give you a million, We'll give you two yeah,
I yeah, we'll give you. We'll give you two point eight.
All day long, baby, we don't care, you know what
I mean like that.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's just I'd probably give him one eight one I think.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think because the team now, we always like to
assume that players are loyal, which, like anybody in life,
a lot of them aren't. Yeah, we like to think
you want, oh, let's not go there. Yeah, yeah, you
mean noted NHL journeyman Oliver Shillington. You had good luck
at that, right, I mean we wish him well, but
still this.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Kind I felt like he actually probably would have been
a pretty good fit in Calgary this year.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's sports. It's fine if you can't if you can't
handle it, then he's you know, he's got the wrong occupation.
But outside of you know, situations like that, I think
Handley is going to be back. I think there's gonna
be obviously, well we're gonna see a little bit of
tomorre night. We'll talk about that afterwards as well. But
there's good there's gonna be a lot of opportunity in
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d and I and Hanley I think can fit in
in a few different places there.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't want him playing up as high as he
was though, because there's there's there should be more player
in there. We're talking about Pristavitch or Perek or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, Well, I was looking at it this way, like
I was pair like, I'm probably getting my head on
myself because you got probably a lot more.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Got to ask me here.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I was looking at your pair of state home guy
with an offensive guy, and we have a glutton of
right defensive prospects coming up.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We're offensive minded. So yep, I a leaguer is not
going anywhere, nor should he or anything.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's crazy talk to get rid of him, even though
I did think he looked a lot slower towards the
latter part of the season, but he should. He's been
playing like twenty five minutes a night ton.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He played a lot of yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So you have him on our number one.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
On the right side, you have you know, you have
a not a Pristovage but a parac maybe on the
right side, number two, and you have the Hall number three.
And on the left side you have like a state
home guy like Ball with Perak, and you know you
fill the slots, right. I always look at it as you
got to have an offensive guy with a defensive guy.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong on that. But that's
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just kind of the way I slotted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, that's the way a lot of teams like to
do it traditionally. It kind of gives that offensive guy
the you know, the flexibility to do what he does
best in PRE is going to need that for sure. Now,
since we're talking about with d Man, we meals will
continue this part of the conversation because I got a
text probably a couple of hours before it became official
that Brisce Daevitch was recalled along with Sam Morton, which
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I think is really cool because I'm excited to see
Morton play and PRE is gonna play as well. The
last game of the season is utterly meaningless at this point. Yeah,
and I'm reminded of so many players that got thrown
into the game that never played again or never amounted
to anything. My point being that the last game is
(25:34):
sus be fun to see these guys, but training camp
is going to be the summer they point in It
is going to be a hell of a lot more important, right.
It's really cool. I mean, you know, they get to
go for that skate, you know, hopefully pick up a
you know, their first nancial point in some cases. Whatever.
But those two guys Practice Davich are going to be
very interesting to watch going into the next year.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Is Sam Morton or four fne Center.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, he very well could be. And I think that's
one things.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Throwing that out there, man like he's maybe the guy
we want there. I don't know I would. I'm looking
forward to seeing him Pristavich. You know, we visited with
him on the show here and I really I cheer
for the guy who's a top notch guy and I
want to see where he goes. And then PreK fun
to see you broke the news that but he was
on his way to Calgary and I want to talk
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a little bit about that because this market went I
don't know, is it fair to say batshit crazy? And
Twitter was a blur And that's where I've got two
X factors this week, and we can go right into
those right now. And Connie's burner in this short Flames tenure,
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Perrek has already been cut down by our media, held
out of every game seeing his Peers debut, and has
seen defenders like being giveaway games. One has to wonder
how long he's going to want to remain in Calgary
when the time comes to extend. I thought this was
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slightly jumping the gun.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Slightly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, well I freaked out to the day because TSN
had a spot about how the habs finally found their
superstar his first game. Fuck off, like guy's doing, Like yeah,
he had a great debut, like get over it? Like hole.
I just I can't stand when they go that crazy.
But it's good to be excited. But yeah, headlines like
that are just click bait anyway, which I guess is
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what they're the business of. But this.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Maybe an overreaction.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well oh, come on here, like this guy's understands the
reasoning behind it. Now, I will defend the fact that
if you're going to run guys out there who have
been struggling, who I can't even say he struggling right
now because he Bean has been better the last couple
of weeks, But guys who struggled throughout the year, and
you're gonna hold perek out because you got Bean in.
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I don't know that I necessarily agree with that, but
I also respect the fact that, hey, we were we
were in the middle of a big chase, and god
forbid us COREC did make a defensive air that costs
us a game, probably undue pressure on a young player.
Probably not a great situation. So I understand both sides
of it. But let's take a look at our second
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X factor here. That one was from tab Perek might
have ruined the chemistry if he played today, and I
thought it was hilarious because all year we heard about
how good a chemistry this team has, how good a
chemistry this team has, And I just thought it was
it was comical that this guy took that angle with
with Perek. I know he said it like this now
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ways to read it, right, Yes, but I read it, Yeah,
that's how I read it. But I thought it was
I thought it was a clever X factor, right, I
thought I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I think so too. I do. I do take major, major,
major issue with coaches that don't take chances of young players,
even important games. And I was one of the people
who was like, I don't agree with not playing prect.
He recalled him he should get into a game, because
I do think he could have helped tu.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I our powerplay was what over nine or over
eight in the Anaheim game?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is that what it was? Anaheim game? Right?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That whole game was a piss me off, blur, But
you know, I mean, like that can he could have helped.
I remember, and I'm not nobody in Calgary Flames fanland
think I'm comparing here, but you remember clearly when Cale
mccarr stepped in for the Colorado Avalanche in the playoffs
against the Flames. I'm not comparing Zane Porrect to Cale mccarr,
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but he's a number nine overall pick. He was drafted
to be a game breaker, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, hey, listen, let's get one thing straight right now,
in terms of you know, credentials at eighteen nineteen years old,
you can compare them all day long. There's nothing wrong
with doing that. M practice every bit. The prospect that
mccar was that he would be as good as mccarr is.
I wouldn't call it a stretch. I wouldn't call it
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likely because mcar is a superstar, but it's it's certainly
in the realm of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I think he'll be as good offensively. I worry a
little bit defensively, and I think he's going to take
that knock with his whole career, right as long as
he's not defensively like Eric Carlson, I'll be okay, you've
got to be better than that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But can you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Imagine, like I don't know, I just I imagine having
his offensive skills and having a stick like Nick Linstrom,
he'd be the best defenseman of all time.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, let me throw another dagger here, we're gonna if
Perek played all the games this year, right, would he
be minus thirty eight?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Nope? Okay, point no, no, very simply because he would
have scored a hell of a lot more points. I
think as a rookie in the NHL, perk will land
forty five to fifty five points. I think he does
things better than the way he is his body to
protect the puck in offensive situations. He does it better
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than most defensemen in the ANHL. Now, granted, you need
a lot of other tools to be an NHL defenseman,
but he would have put up enough points to negate
a lot of the minuses he would have incurred. He
would have finished it minus fifteen maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'm just throwing that out there as like I didn't
mean it as a last minute job on Anderson.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah it is, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, it's a funny thing to point out, and again
it harkens back to the discussion for weeks now, how
do you justify giving Anderson that kind of money when
you have all these defensive prospects the way at TM
Mornez with the Monk the Walcats. Right now, they're up
two games to one in the second round against Bakomo.
The Cats are leading as we're recording, so they could
go home with their Sorry, it could go into the
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last game by Kimmel up through one of the series.
Man's a great defenseman too, you know, and he gets
overshadowed a lot by burs David Chimparak, and understandably so.
But we have so many good defensive players or prospects
I should say that are ready to get into the
NHL or at least start seeing action.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, Yeah, do you ever think, do you know what
we do? We have a lot of them, right, Do
you ever think that maybe we move one of them
or move two of them to try to get a
good center.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
All the time. I fully expect, I fully expect that's
gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I do too, and I think it's a smart move.
But I mean, that's probably another topic for another day.
There was some signing. Is Calgary signed a Calgary product,
Carter King to play with the Wranglers?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, yeah, the Wranglers now. But I mean this is
a pretty uh.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna boohoo this one. Okay,
here's why.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He's twenty three years old and he has a penalty
killing face off. Man, What do the Flames need a
large body score. I'm not saying we don't need depth
in the organization, but.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Hang on, hang on, what face off penaltykill man? We
need a fourth fine center.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And he's twenty three so maybe he is a guy too.
Maybe he's you know, maybe he is a guy. Hey
if he's quick, now, he'll do that to prove me wrong, right,
you know what I mean, that's how things work.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Kid's got a great name too. I'd love to have
a Flames King jersey.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, just really bother you. Calgary is really big at
this and Calgary is not the only one. My state
does this all the time. It drives me insane. Why
do they Why do we favor like, well, he's a
Calgary kid. Like that makes it like like okay, Like
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I just want the best freaking player. I don't care
if he's from Brazil, Like I just want the best player,
Like I don't I don't care.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Like Minnesota is huge.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
The Minnesota Wild suffered miserably for years because they hired
from within the state all the time, like, Oh, he's
a Minnesota guy.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
He's gonna be good for Oh, he's going to be good.
He's a Minnesota guy. And it's like, well, he's not good.
Like he's not good.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So, I mean, I just don't want to get down
that trap. And I don't know why I went off
on that tangent because I don't even know Carter King
and I watched him play this year a couple of times,
and he was pretty damn good. He had forty three
points in forty four games.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, real good. I think in this case it's a
little exciting that he's from Calgary because I think he
gave Calgary an upper hand on signing him. I agree,
because he's a pretty desirable free agent, right So, and
you know what, I like the fact that Connor keeps
trying these guys out. We're going to see sooney of
play against the Kings as well, so that should be cool.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, yep, that should be good. We signed a goalie
to twenty twenty round seventh rounder, Sir gav from Penn State.
He had a point nine one n.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, he's really really he's been sneaky man. Like all
these perier I'll call them peripheral signing, so none of
them are real sexy names at least as yet. I
dig that kind of stuff. Then that's what it's a flame.
The flames was successful in the eighties, was, you know,
signing guys all dranks. I'm sure that influenced your your
you know, your fandom as an American, right, seeing the
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signing the guys from places that weren't very far from.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You, for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
College hockey like like I know, like things are goofy
between the two right now, and it'll be fine, don't worry.
But like college hockey is really big in the States,
like really really big. It's really big, and it is
going to be the sought after place. I mean, Henry
Mus signed with Michigan. That's where he's headed, right, I Mean,
these universities are it's it's big time. And I know
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a lot of Canadians will say, well, they only play
on the weekends, and I agree, I agree, but you know,
I've also been told there's two sides of that. He
gives a lot more time for strength training, and at
the age these guys are, that's what moves them to
the next level. I remember when Jonathan taze what came
to the University of North Dakota. People the criticized criticism
on him was all he's he lacks upper body strength
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and da da dah. Well, when he left the University
of North Dkota, he was ready to step into a
Chicago Blackhawks line up and look at his career he
saw from him. Same with the Zach PERIZI same with it.
You know, the list on and on, and I'm speaking
of guys from the University of Northdakota where I live,
so I'm obviously so a little bit of favoritism there.
But I do know what the college programs and how
they move people forward at an age that is more
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NHL ready right.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
One hundred percent, and that that's kind of the knock
against the junior ranks in Canada and in some cases
at least, is that you know the strength of the
program and the competition depending on what part of the
country in or where that particular team is. Like right now,
for example, Monkton is running roughshot over the rest of
the Quebec League. That loss against Bakeoma was there first
(36:35):
since February, I think. But anyway, point being, the college
ranks can be a way too fast tracked players to
be inn HL because the way they prepare. Now, I
wouldn't say this is wonder, this is better than the other.
It depends on their program we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But I think you know, like I always sad, people
always say what would you do with your kid, you know,
living in the States, And I'm like, dude, if my
kid was a first line projected draft pick, he's going
to the he's going to play in the WHL or
going up into the CHL. He is that's the I
just feel like that's the best place at age seventeen
to go, right.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's the job of that's the job of these scouts too, right,
is to just to go visit with the players and say, hey,
this is one this is the best place for you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Right yeah, I mean that would be that would have
been in my path.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Now with the eligibility of you know, HL players come
into the college now it's going to change and skew things.
I still think that would be the place to go.
But maybe coming back down and I think you're going
to see a ton of this, I do. I think
you're gonna see a ton of people go up play
two years in the WHL or just use that as
an example, and then they're gonna they're gonna come out
of Brandon and and head down and play for uh
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the University of Minnesota for a year slash two years
and then move on into the pro ranks. I think
that's the role that we're gonna we're going to see
happen a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah. Absolutely, But you know, in any case, looking at
the Flames and the things that they're doing with regards
to scouting, the CHL, scouting, the college hockey ran scouting overseas,
and you look at a guy like the Ridge a
few years ago who nobody had ever heard of and
now was a regular. Adam Klapka the top about guys
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gonna have be an impact player in this team next year.
Clapp is on my list.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He's not a first line wing though, he's a fourth
line wing, and just let him be a fourth liner
and he'll be good.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He's gonna make our fourth line good.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'd even put him on the
power plane in front of the net and the second unit.
Sometimes I want he's got some hands.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Maybe maybe he's a third I don't know, but I
would say he's probably more before.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's hard, you know, it's hard to do this show
with a team like Calgar right now for all the
right reasons, because there's so many things to talk about,
and you almost get to compartmentalize, and it's like, like
Dustin Hole, for example, It's like, that's done, Dustle Wolf
is amazing, right, There's nothing a debate there. He's fucking amazing. Yeah,
and then we move on to the prospects and the unknowns,
and it's like there's there's so much, so many positive
things around this team, which kind of brings me to
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the topic of how apparently the culture is so much
more positive. There's been a lot of back and forth
with that, and I think that's why, to circle back
to the start of this particular episode, that's why there
was so much talk about, you know, the players not
being mad enough necessarily because they're looking at the game
differently I think than they had maybe in the past.
I'm sure they're still disappointed obviously, but yeah, I cultures changed,
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you know, and.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
You know what, we haven't had locker clean out, and
that's what we'll discuss next episode next week. But I
think I think there's a lot of realists, you know,
Like I think me and you have looked at this too,
and were we crabby last night about it? Probably I
probably wasn't near as mad as I thought I was
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And well, and those are watching my tweets, like I
was really trying more to be funny than mad, because
at that point, I'm like, well, I can't change it. It
is what it is, right.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It kind of hit me though that it's like, wow,
tomorrow is our last game like that, that's kind of
weird of the year. It seems like it went really fast.
But I mean I was angry, but I was more like,
I look at the situations that we had this year
and how things have We actually answered a lot of
questions that me and you had going into the season,
and I feel good about that. I feel good about
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what we learned this year. I feel good about some
players like Matthew Coronado. I'm way more excited. I questioned
his skating ability. Whoever's teaching him skating. He's moving up
the ranks every single year, and I mean, we're progressing
some of these young guys, and that's something this franchise
had a struggle bus with for many, many years. And
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there was just some real good positives this year.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Well, I mean one of the highlights of the season
for me was being in Montreal when Coronado scored the
overtime winner. Just an absolute bullet, right, And you know
the thing is and you just hit the nail on
the head, whether you realize it or not, about you know,
the season being over. So I'm looking at the calendar,
you know, you're my home studio, and Tuesday, April fifteenth
was the day we got eliminate from playoff contention.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Who saw that coming?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
If you said that last fall, somebody would have said, oh,
you meant to say February or March.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
You know, I'm gonna piss some people off by saying this.
But I was angry about this, probably more last night
than the final scores. For people to see, you know,
these pro tankers that are saying, see, this is exactly
what we said was gonna happen. We're gonna fall right
out of the playoffs. We're gonna get the crappiest draft
pick you know what, Like who plays professional sports to lose?
Like ask the Blackhawks how the rebuilds go, and ask
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the Sabers how the rebuilds going. You know, how about
we asked the Dallas Stars how the real tool went.
Let's ask the Washington Capitals how the retool went. Come on, guys,
this is how it played out. Our team played their
ass off this year. They came up short, which sucks
because I wanted the experience for these players to play
in the playoffs. But damn it, we did everything we could, right.
Did we throw a few games away?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yes? Do we learn for that? I sure as hell hope? So? Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
The only thing that I really struggle with is looking
at the East they could we're firmly in the playoffs Spotify.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
While we were last year too.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah. It's so man, that drives me nuts. But well,
there's a lot of things that drive me nuts. Is
anybody who listens to this this show obviously knows. But
the thing is that keeps coming up that really also
irks me. It's like all the talk about the draft
pick we traded in Montreal when we dump Sean Monahan,
and I'm gonna tell you why. So Sean Monahan rebuilt
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his career in God loved that. Sean Monahan is a
great guy. I've met him, I've met his dad, great family,
great retribution story. None of us, as Flame Sands, will
ever forget the embraced that he and Johnny gudrou shared
after Game seven against Dallas twenty two. But this is
what happened. Okay. All this talk about the Flames and
how horrible that trade was, and it was horrible. I
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would put it right up there, right just behind the
Doug Gilmore trade, the marks of our trade. It's one
of the worst trades the Flames ever made, giving around
a pick, given away a pick rather and giving away
a sixty point player. But guess what it was. What
are we almost three years ago now and it happened.
(42:55):
It's over, we can undo it. It was a bad
trade by a GM who no longer works for this team.
I don't care. I don't pay any attention at all
to where that pick lands because either and it doesn't
really affect the future of the team, because the reality
is we have so many good players in the pipeline,
and so many good players in the team, many of
them we didn't expect. With me as good as err
as quickly as the air, we have the assets and
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the ability to move things around such that that pick
will be nothing to worry about and the not too
distant future, so.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
You know, another thing to like.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I know that the negative guys will say, well,
you don't know how all these prospects are going to
turn out.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I don't, And you know what, I guarantee you some
of them aren't going to turn out in Zane Perrek.
Maybe one of them that doesn't ever translate to the Angaeil,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, that's that would be horri But I but I feel.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Like I have a hell of a lot better chance
with a guy like him and what I've seen from him,
and a guy like Dustin Wolf, which we thought again
this year, like I feel more comfortable with that than
some of the years past.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, did actually speaking to Dustin Wolf. This is a
really good note, or one of the notes we should
finish on. I think the Flames that actually posted this
and I looked at it and had a glance while
I was working today. But oh, it's his birthday today too,
twenty four. That's right. I forget about that. They shared.
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I don't know where it is now, but they shared
the company that Wolf keeps as a rookie goaltender for
wins goals against saves. I think that because the Canadians,
well we should check. It's likely the Canadians are going
to the playoffs. Dust Dustin Wolfe's case for the Calders
as strong as you can make for a goaltender. He's
been unbelievable. Yeah, they have the habs up three to
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one at the second emission, So at the time of this.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Recording, Hudson's going to get the calder and it's.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Going to get Yeah, and he's a fantastic defenseman. If
the Flames made the playoffs. If the Flames made the playoffs, yeah,
and wolf had maybe two more shutouts. Different discussion altogether,
but what a what a season from Dustin wolf This
is Can you imagine? Just think about this. We traded
Jacob Markstrom. We will have one more year to pay
that little pittance of his salary left. By the way,
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next season we pay one point one to eight or
something to the Devil's or should say paid the Markstrom
of a salary. But we traded mark Strom to make
a room for dust A Wolf and we got Kevin
Ball as part of that. Yeah, that is tidy, tidy work.
That is the best trade Barden on the Conray's made
so far. He makes it a little like that's this
this summer. Next season we're only making the playoffs. Might
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win round or two. Unbelievable work.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, two NHL things I want to talk about before
we quickly get out of here because the buzzer is
going to go here.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Canucks come backs for three goals in one minute to
force overtime against Dallas?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Did you see that? I did? Did Dallas look like
they were a Beer League team and didn't give a shit?
That's what?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's such a leading question? How could I possibly answer
out of the way? Then yes, Brat, that's correct, perfect, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
For agree and you're the only person that agrees with
me on stuff. Here's another one I wanted to ask
you bout. Did you see the fight the other night
between Derek Forbert and that Jakov Trn?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, I hate the Canucks, right, I don't like the
Cannucks at all.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
But really, I've never heard you mention I hate the
Canucks on the show.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, I know, that's the first time I've said that.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Actually, when you when you asked me to join this show,
I think the second thing you said was I'm going
to tell you a lot how much i hate the Canucks.
I hope that's okay.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh yeah, orbital ball in it. What is he doing
on a sucker punch when the guy's down? Like, yeah,
that was brutal. That's classless garbage. I hate stuff like
that in our league.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, fun fact, I do it. First of all, I
agree it's incredibly stupid and reckless and dangerous. I love
to see if there's going to be a fight when
a player's falling, the other player puts his hand behind
the back of the head of the player. For that
is the classiest, safest like that. That's just great. But
I had Derek Forbert's Black Sea Game war Jersey and
(46:55):
I tried it.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I got his Winnipeg nets one.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's right, and I trade it one of his flames,
one one of the few that exists, like there's only
three of them. I traded it for one of my
Trivlews jerseys so good raad. Yeah, I'm gonna get them
all to me like pokemon man. Gotta gotta catch them
all one of these days.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Do you know that next time we talk, which will
be the Tuesday drop next week, the playoffs will be
already underway. So we got thirty seconds. I'm gonna rattle
off the rounds in the Western Conference because we don't
know the East yet. I want you to tell me
who you think is gonna win. Jets, Blues, Jets.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Gotta hope the Jets.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Me too, but I'm afraid I want this yet. Stars Avalanche, Avalanche,
me too.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
That's why I think too. Golden Knights, Wild, Golden.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Knights, Golden Knights King, although I'd love to I'd love
to see Fleury start that series and win it. Kings
oilers like this is here, the Kings would knock them off.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I think the Kings knock them off this year to.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
An injury trouble like no walk Home, for example, and
the Kings are a deep team. Yeah what, let's let's
just take a stab at these There's only one series
we don't know, right, Okay, So I'm gonna ask you. Yeah,
I'm gonna ask you, so let's do. What do we got.
We've got Toronto, Ottawa, Toronto. I want Ottawa so bad.
(48:11):
I know me too, I'm worried about it. I want
Ottawa as well.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Tampa, Florida, Florida, but it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
I'm gonna say Tampa, but it is gonna be good. Carolina,
New Jersey, Carolina kills him. Four Street, I'm gonna say
in six, but yeah, it's gonna be a doozy. And
then we get we're gonna I'm gonna assume based on
the current UH standings or the most likely to be
the standings after tonight, Montreal.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Washington, Montreal upsets them.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I think so too. I really, I really believe that.
I think you know demb it off. Despite the fact
that the people to calm down about him earlier. He's
a real wild card. Hudson we talked about. Gallagher is
a great playoff performer. Suzuki Coffeel I man, and I
hope so too. I said, my father hates the has
but I told him again tonight over dinner. I'm like, Dad,
you got to understand, I don't care how much you
(49:06):
hate the habs. It's better for hockey. When the Habs
are in the playoffs, that building is absolutely untouchable.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
It's better for hockey, it really is.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
And if it is Columbus Washington, I just I think
Washington runs rough shot over them.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, that's cool Washington. It'll be Columbus.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
We end the season Thursday night Calgary and LA the
Fire makeup game. We'll be back next Tuesday Drop. We'll
wrap on that King's game. We'll talk some prospect performance
in that game, do locker clean out discussion, and rap
on the season. In the off season, Kyle and I
will be here every single week in the off season.
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Some of them will be here some regular episodes. We're
gonna have a live draft, free agency show, and then
we'll have numerous special flame topic shows that we'll talk
a variety of different things between good credes, bad things,
a whole bunch of stuff. But we're gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Every week every week. You really want to do that
in August, we're doing it. Okay, We're gonna like pre
record like ten for us contract. I didn't read the fine.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
In your contract. I I know your contract last night.
Uh No, we're gonna have fun. We're gonna pre record
a bunch of them and make sure you guys get
something to listen to every week. That's how it's best, right.
Hockey never stops, So we're gonna do that. We are
gonna do that. My Big Things goes out to our buddies.
(50:28):
Josh sent us Ceey today searching for Scarlett. Kyle and
I both got it. I got mine today.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Did you get yours today too?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I got mine on Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh see, I'm in the States. Takes a little longer.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
There's no international border between these guys and I just
a lot of provinces. No.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, they're a long ways away, but good music. You'll
hear them on the intro of this show and the
outro of this show claims fans, it's been a rough week,
but a fun week. And I don't know totally we've
got a little bit more positivity to the negativity that
we're not playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
But that was fun.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
That was an absolute blast. And I guess I sound
like the Flames. Maybe that's being two positive. Let's end
on that note.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
I think Kyle got in the show crabby and he's
ending the show happy, sprink a lot of water, laying today.
I got one thing today. All right, Plains fans enjoy
what's left of the season.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
One game. We'll back next week. You have a good
week playing with the playoffs. The playoffs are here. Take care.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
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The money anything. Hey, everybody, welcome to the post mortem
edition of Flames and Filter. If we are your host.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Kyle Lewis and Brandford.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I never know how to start a lot of these
shows when I start them, and this one in particular
is perhaps the most definitely won't start yet. So well,
you know what's funny. I was explaining it today to
a coworker. I for me, it's like it's almost like
I have one less responsibility. So I'm not happy about it.
(00:57):
In fact, it's quite sad, but it's like now it
was just like, Okay, well I don't worry about that anymore.
So yeah, I'll stress about something else. And I just
had some fun on X with it last night. Just
posted a bunch of ridiculous tweets.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I read them, you know, I did. I've had a
few that were stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know, like last night was it was you remember
the night we had the trade night this year when
Frost and Farrabee and the excitement that there was with.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That so fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, like last night had a little bit of that, uh,
that Super Tuesday feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But like.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
This whole last week has been like this. Teams never
say die, but they just like keep self inflicting wounds
along the way and making it harder. And then last night,
like I was excited, I was excited to watch, and
then Utah just falls apart. Saint Louis gets out to
this quickly for nothing. In the first I'm like that
(02:03):
game's done. I'm done. I'm sick of Utah. And then
I'm like watching and all I could think the whole
time is like I live next door to Minnesota. I
know Minnesota sports. These guys choke, they choke, and they
get down to Anaheim and I'm like, oh, here we go.
But then I'm thinking I'm gonna be really I'll be
more pissed. I was gonna be more pissed today. If
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we would have lost and Anaheim would have won, I'd
have been more pissed today.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But we came back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We took care of our business and come back and
win it in overtime or shootout whatever, same thing. We
get two points, let's call it that, and then twenty
seconds eighteen something and it's like, ugh, got re gene.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was this really shitty feeling. I was
kind of like blown away too and dive in a
little bit of this, I didn't. I knew it had
been a while. I didn't realize it was twenty six
games since Morgan frost last quarter goal me.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Either, because I thought the last ten, like I did
have some frustration with him, but the last ten games
that was really actually happy with the way he played
and he was creating chances, and all I could think
of was they're gonna start going.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
In Yeah, yeah, well, you know that's kind of you
know what I mean, the way that he's the way
that he's played. I mean, he's defully created some chances
of late, but anyway, I mean, it's easy to pick
on individual players in the situation like this, but ultimately
I'm struggling with with the competing narratives, Like there's obviously
(03:40):
a lot of people that are proud, and mcken zweiger
echo that post game and rightfully so, but ultimately the
team definitely overachieved but still didn't get the dablem Like.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't know, maybe I'm an ass, but I mean
I think it's good for like the players to be proud,
but like, and I think that's kind of a and
I and I like McKenzie Leeger and I mean me
and you have talked about it frequently that he's probably
in line for me to be the next captain of
this team, and I have a ton of respect for him.
But I hate those words, and I is it bad.
(04:18):
I mean, I kind of expected to see a little
more anger out of the Flames last night, like mad
at themselves. It's like, I mean, they they took care
of business, so it's there. It's hard to be mad then,
but they didn't take care of business. And I can
point to the game last Wednesday, April ninth, Anaheim three
(04:38):
to one lead, four minutes to go, and you only
get a point. That point right there, that point, you're out.
You know, we talked about the Saint Louis, the two
games in St. Louis all year, right, those are defining
moments in the season, and I still think those are
critical aspects in us not taking st It was the spot.
(05:01):
But I'm telling you that loss on Wednesday night stick
a knife in your heart.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That was it. That was it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I mean I've been kind of tolling that line
for a little while now, believing that they weren't going
to make it as much as I wanted them to.
And ultimately, yeah, we could point to several points in
the season where they just were good enough. But I
agree with your point about the anchor, because yeah, you know,
again the team, they should be proud of a lot
of what they accomplished, but.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They overachieved all of our expectations, all of them. I
have our predictions. We'll talk about in next episode were
they overachieved. But you're right, Kyle, Like last Wednesday night,
like I didn't feel like they were as pissed off
as they should have been at that effort last in
the last four minutes, My goodness, that's a point. They
(05:53):
gave away, a point, they actually handed a point. We
have numerous situations this year where you know, the Saint
Louis sticks out. You know, I know a lot of
people talk about on on X last night and today
about well if we just those if they would accounted
one of those pucks over the line, and I couldn't
agree more. But I can't control that, and the Flames
can't control that, but they sure as hell could have
(06:14):
controlled At sixteen oh two of the third period, a
three to one lead against one of the worst teams
in the league is the Anaheim Ducks, and we only
get a point that was in their control and they
didn't take care of business that night, and now they're
out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
No, exactly, and there was and again there was several
other nights we could point to where they didn't take
care of business, where they they fell apart, where the
generator zero offense for the power play failed them. Are
rarely any issues with goaltending when we talked about so.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I didn't think Dustin Wolf was great in the early
parts of last night the latter parts of the game
is unreal, unbelievable. And for me to even say that
he wasn't great in the beginning, I should probably punch
myself because there's been so many, so many nights that
he's been just flat out amazing. And I'm going to
(07:05):
contradict exactly what I said about being mad if as
Flame fans, there is one thing we need to be
happy with with this season done, Dustin Wolf. Well, we
know we have a starting goalie now.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But we have a franchise goal ethic.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Absolutely, So what is that that think about that think
how important that is to the future success And we've
established that now in this season. That's a win, right,
that's a that's a check mark in a positive way.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, this is what you know, how I stick. I
get stuck on stats sometimes. This is what I'm kind
of stuck on. I presume they're going to give the
last game of the season to Wolf. Either wins, and
I said, well they should, because I don't know if
that Iar is playing another game here. But also Wolf
as a twenty nine wins and he deserves a chance
to grap thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I just think that here's here's gonna be my tell
me how I'm wrong on this one. I think this
team wants to sign Dan Valadar because I think this
is a good, good tandem.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I do. I really think it's a good tandem.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, I did.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And I think they're gonna give him the last game
and we'll see what happens. I could be completely wrong
on that. I just think they rode will hard hard hard.
And I know this doesn't matter if we win or lose.
But with these young players that we'll talk about here
in a little bit gonna be playing, it'd be kind
of fun and with two points, and I think both
(08:33):
Vodar and We'll give you that chance. And I just
think that maybe we throw a bone to Voidar and
maybe try to get this guy signed it maybe equal
to dollars as he is right now, and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But I don't know. I don't know, and.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm okay with that too. I mean, Vladar is expressed
willing to stay in Calgary, but I think now knowing
that it's no longer a fight for starts because he's
the only getting what he's gonna get, he might be
inclined to applis trade elsewhere if there's opportunities elsewhere, which
I suspect it will be, but we will. That's probably
the least of our concerns right now, So we'll see
how that plays out over the coming months.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I think that I don't very rarely on this
show do I not want to talk about something, But
right there, I don't really want to talk about that
much more because we need to save that when we
need something to talk about in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right Yeah, and as and the biggest thing is, like
we talked about it, it's it's the least of our concerns.
I mean, everybody wants reliable backup, but it's a hell
of a lot more important of a franchise goalie. We
now have one, so that I do think.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Though that the league, I mean, just hear me out
on this. I the league has changed. And as much
as Wolf is going to be our franchise goalie and
is probably going to get fifty fifty five starts and
I maybe even sixty, I don't know, I'm going to
be pushing it, We're still going to need a quality
(09:53):
guy that's going to you know, you know, be able
to put in thirty games for us, and I don't
know that that's not Dan Vodar. And the one of
the reasons I think maybe that Dan vor would be
an option is I feel like we could get him
at a fairly decent price.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh yeah, and he's obviously he is going to be
an option. But it's a hell a lot easier to
find a reliable backup than his franchise goalie. So absolutely,
But the days of anybody playing sixty five plus games,
certainly seventy plus anyway, are long gone, and you know,
thankfully so, you know, for the sake of the goaltenders. Yeah,
but I mean, you know, looking back, and we'll get
(10:29):
more into some retrospect on the weeks ahead. Obviously, but
there's a lot of things that'd be really really happy
about Jonathan Huberto having a strong year next to the
Wolf emergence. The next thing that would I would point
to right away as Matthew Cornado was a legitimate NHL
goal scorer. And I'm going to say right now he's
going to pot thirty to forty next year of barring injury.
(10:52):
But at the very least we know that he's very,
very capable. Connors are showed significant progress despite some injury
troubles kind of fluke injury tumbles, really the same injury.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like Yeah, you know, I always I always think it's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You know, I did see that Ryan Husker said he
has resumed skating and in the recent days. And I
don't think we'll see him tomorrow night, nor do I
want to think we should. But you know, I always
look at things and I always hear people say, well,
the guy's injury prone. Well I don't really consider Connor's
our injury prone. When it's like two kind of ones.
(11:28):
A knee that's a penalty and the other one was
just like a real fluke. Yeah, get caught up. So
I don't know, I mean, is he injury prone. No,
is he unlucky this year?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah? Probably fair to say.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh yeah, most certainly. West There's no question.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When I when we look at Connor's are and we're
gonna dig deep into this in the coming weeks. But
when we when, what do we learn? Is he a center?
Is he still better on the wing? Or I feel
like he's better on the wing, but I want him
to be a center, but he's better on the wing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that fair? Well? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Right now? He's better in the wing, But I think
he's going to be a center.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I think so. You know, And again we both
said that we'll get into this later on if we're
going to talk about things that kind of derailed the season,
apart from giving points away when they shouldn't have, you know,
Frost disappearing, Zara getting injured. I am with a tumple
of things that we make us mad. I'm kind of
mad that you Grey Sharon Govitz just started to play
(12:23):
half decent in the last two weeks of the season.
Are you absolutely? He failed this team miserably for months
at a time, and that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So I agree with you that everything you just said
is one correct, But to flip that on the positive,
I'd be more pissed if we went into this offseason
thinking that he was a complete bust.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because oh yeah, at least.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Now I'm looking at the roster for next year and
I'm like, okay, like maybe he can bring some scoring
to a third line for us, and he's dynamic enough
to the third line versatle enough he can take some
draws in a pinch, So at least I feel like
we have a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Viable roster slot.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Whereas I was honestly looking at I always project out
the roster right and I was like, God, do we
buy this guy out? I was like, put him in
the buyout calculator. Yet, you know, so maybe I mean,
I'm not saying that problems solve you go Sharon Gowich
pots a couple and things are great and sharing Golviich Land.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying Legoland Lego Land
(13:25):
to make cose, But did you know what I mean? Though,
Like I feel like we're a little bit psychology off
with him starting to show.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He looks like guy we talked about this last year
and I keep interrupting you.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm sorry, did you you know something It's funny how
when a guy's attitude looks like it's better, like they
start producing more. And I don't know if their attitude
gets better because they are producing. That's probably the better
way to put it. But he looks like he's having
a lot more fun right now, but.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
He probably is or was. I mean, anyway to your point,
I mean, it's good to have things look forward to
going the next season, and him seemingly figuring out how
to play hockey again is obviously a big help. But yeah,
back to the things that pissed me off, because this
should be a little bit an angry show. His disappearance
(14:21):
and very untimely re emergence not timely enough, I should say,
I don't know what the hell happened to Joel Fairbray
after he scored a damn near goal of the year
candidate in Dallas and then just fell off the planet.
So not real happy with him.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Arab Is he the future Blake Coleman on this team?
I don't mean not a bad way. I mean that
in a good way.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean I wish.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I have a hard time.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I have a hard time believing that the Farrabe that
we saw the latter part of this season is a
fair bee we're going to.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
See the next few years. I just do.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Maybe maybe I'm just being stupidly up a mystic, but
why are you optimistic?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I should be more pissy, shouldn't I maybe i'd help
the ratings of those more much.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm not sure which one's more annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
All shots from you're just firing shots at me.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
This fire shots everywhere right now. But I'm almost remendless.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
He's got eleven goals this year, and you know he's yeah,
is twenty twenty two? That's what he was getting.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, I feel like we're going to get that
back again. I was he missed a little bit. Maybe
it should be like a third line winger in my mind.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Maybe probably a bit. I mean, we've expressed some frustration
throughout the season with some of Husker's tactics and player deployment.
But I'm not going to throw on the towel on
the guy. Yet. But I mean he certainly left a
lot to be desired.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I agree. You want to talk about another guy that's
left a lot to be desired.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Number four.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Minus thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
So this in perspective, and then I'm gonna let you
comment McKenzie Leiger plus eighteen.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Fire go, that's wild, that's what awoof. That's a contrast
right there, Ladies and gents. Um okay, So as far
as that situation goes, that's stat. You say, minus thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Eight, minus thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The second words on the flames is nosen kadri at
minus nineteen.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, and you know what. Okay, So here's the thing,
this is all right. Now. You got me really going
here because somebody I forget who it was because I
didn't care enough to remember it, but somebody responded to
me on X about you know, all Vegkans scored fifty
one goals when you're was a minus twenty eight or
something like that doesn't that doesn't negate the importance of
plus minus plus. Now plus minus is a team stat
(16:49):
generally speaking. However, what I take issue with when you're
trying to defend a guy who's minus a million, you
better dan well score like a you know, twenty seventeen
Eric Carlson to justify it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So let me ask you this, who did Anderson play
with ninety eight percent of this year? Kevin Ball, Kevin
Ball's minus nine.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, but here's the different And again, here's the difference.
This is what I want to point out because this
is very very important in both the case of Cadrey
and Anderson. Cadre very much was a player of you
love what he gives you and you hate at certain
moments what he gives you. He gave us the last
two years. He has as many highlight reel goals as anybody,
and he's a big game player.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I agree. He really proved me wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, and we saw some gregious errors at times, but
they were worth what he gave us Otherwise, Again, generally
speaking as I just said about, you know, a guy
like Eric Carlson, this prime you have to score. Actually,
I think I said my response fifty some points plus
to justify having that bad of a plus minus to
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even attempt to justify it. But the bigger thing is
in both those players' cases, and this is where I
get really pissed off about it, is if you're looking
at stats, it's one thing. If you're watching the games
as another right. If you're watching the games, and in
Kadrew's case, I know Dan well, you can remember a
few major errors that he made.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, he was in on the Anaheim debacle.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah exactly. And night after night after night after night,
we watched Anderson make terrible defensive decisions many many times
with different jersey, different colored jerseys around his net. I
could see him like looking up standing to the side
of the crease, out of position, allowing the goal to
(18:30):
be scored. He had a terrible, terrible season. I'm not
saying Restmus Anderson's a bad player. I was saying a
horrible season. Had he been at least average, would be
in the playoffs right now. But he wasn't. He was
nowhere near good enough. And I'm very curious to hear
his garbage Bay Day interview.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Me too. But you know what else I'm also interested
to hear.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I would love to be a fly on the wall
during negotiations when Craig Connory goes, but you're minus you went?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
How much you were minus thirty eight? Yeah? How much
do you? Did? You just say nine?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like I think that's perfically going to be a conversation,
Like I I I, how do you? How do you
go to the table leveraging eight or nine million dollars
in eight for eight years with those numbers, and I
know there's a whole hell of a lot more to
the a player than his plus minus.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Sure, he had eleven goals.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't think you should have a patented shirt T
shirt made stare when you only score eleven.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well, if you're going to be an iconic stare, which.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Was it was.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But but yeah, he's You're absolutely right, he's not. He
just he didn't do like it. It's just a frustrated
you know. Was he a you know, dynamo in the
power play? No? Was he defensive stalwart? No? It's like, okay,
what are we talking about here? Tell me what makes
Rasmus Anderson so important to this team?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The perception is that he's like, I mean, seriously, like
the p option or Rasmuth Anderson isn't a somewhat elite
defenseman in the league. And I'm not saying he can't be,
and I'm not saying at some points of his career
he has been. But boy, am I not ready to
give eight years to this guy?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No? No, god, no ah ah. Anyway, Okay, so let's
you know, in light of this conversation, because he anders
thing is going to go in for a while, we'll
be talking with it several more times. I want to
do like a quick quick hits and I promise this
to some people on X and I got a few likes.
So just to kind of some quick hits on guys
that we'd bring back with a quick reason why. So,
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I'm gonna throw a couple of names at you because
you often ask me the questions at least, so it
feels I'm gonna throw a few names at you, and
I want your opinion. It's what we're gonna do with them.
So number one, and I know you're excited for this one,
Kevin Riney, gosh, oh, you gotta think about this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I sometimes I do dumb things. Cal you know.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No, I don't want to keep him, but the only
thing that makes me hesitate slightly is I love what
he brings to our penalty kill And if the fourth
line is built correctly, I think he's suitable because I
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know the praise take would be low, way lower than
what he's getting.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Now, Well, that puts you blow a million, which I'm
I would be okay with that. If it's two way.
I don't want him in a one way contract.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well he'll have to be in a one way because
someone will give him a one way just because of
his penalty killing not.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Ability that they can have him take.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And you know what, if somebody takes him, I'm not
losing any sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah no, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to
hear it. But I think that's a fair answer. Who
else Joel Hanley?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Sign him as my seventh guy? I want him as
miss seventh guy. But I got two guys that I okay,
I got I want him as my seventh. I'm afraid
we're stuck with Jake Bean as our seventh.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I see could be waited.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here's what I do.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I sign Hanley for a million, and I bury Bean
in the minors.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't. The problem though, is that, as I said
all year, I think Hamley's played over his head. To
his credit, he's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Perfect, but our defense is built right, He's a perfect
seven guy, right.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Oh yeah? And it could maybe even play you know,
five or six type situation. But uh, my concern is
that after the season he had somebody else gonna say,
we'll give you a million, We'll give you two yeah,
I yeah, we'll give you. We'll give you two point eight.
All day long, baby, we don't care, you know what
I mean like that.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's just I'd probably give him one eight one I think.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think because the team now, we always like to
assume that players are loyal, which, like anybody in life,
a lot of them aren't. Yeah, we like to think
you want, oh, let's not go there. Yeah, yeah, you
mean noted NHL journeyman Oliver Shillington. You had good luck
at that, right, I mean we wish him well, but
still this.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Kind I felt like he actually probably would have been
a pretty good fit in Calgary this year.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's sports. It's fine if you can't if you can't
handle it, then he's you know, he's got the wrong occupation.
But outside of you know, situations like that, I think
Handley is going to be back. I think there's gonna
be obviously, well we're gonna see a little bit of
tomorre night. We'll talk about that afterwards as well. But
there's good there's gonna be a lot of opportunity in
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d and I and Hanley I think can fit in
in a few different places there.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't want him playing up as high as he
was though, because there's there's there should be more player
in there. We're talking about Pristavitch or Perek or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, Well, I was looking at it this way, like
I was pair like, I'm probably getting my head on
myself because you got probably a lot more.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Got to ask me here.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I was looking at your pair of state home guy
with an offensive guy, and we have a glutton of
right defensive prospects coming up.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We're offensive minded. So yep, I a leaguer is not
going anywhere, nor should he or anything.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's crazy talk to get rid of him, even though
I did think he looked a lot slower towards the
latter part of the season, but he should. He's been
playing like twenty five minutes a night ton.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He played a lot of yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So you have him on our number one.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
On the right side, you have you know, you have
a not a Pristovage but a parac maybe on the
right side, number two, and you have the Hall number three.
And on the left side you have like a state
home guy like Ball with Perak, and you know you
fill the slots, right. I always look at it as you
got to have an offensive guy with a defensive guy.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong on that. But that's
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just kind of the way I slotted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, that's the way a lot of teams like to
do it traditionally. It kind of gives that offensive guy
the you know, the flexibility to do what he does
best in PRE is going to need that for sure. Now,
since we're talking about with d Man, we meals will
continue this part of the conversation because I got a
text probably a couple of hours before it became official
that Brisce Daevitch was recalled along with Sam Morton, which
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I think is really cool because I'm excited to see
Morton play and PRE is gonna play as well. The
last game of the season is utterly meaningless at this point. Yeah,
and I'm reminded of so many players that got thrown
into the game that never played again or never amounted
to anything. My point being that the last game is
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sus be fun to see these guys, but training camp
is going to be the summer they point in It
is going to be a hell of a lot more important, right.
It's really cool. I mean, you know, they get to
go for that skate, you know, hopefully pick up a
you know, their first nancial point in some cases. Whatever.
But those two guys Practice Davich are going to be
very interesting to watch going into the next year.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Is Sam Morton or four fne Center.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, he very well could be. And I think that's
one things.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Throwing that out there, man like he's maybe the guy
we want there. I don't know I would. I'm looking
forward to seeing him Pristavich. You know, we visited with
him on the show here and I really I cheer
for the guy who's a top notch guy and I
want to see where he goes. And then PreK fun
to see you broke the news that but he was
on his way to Calgary and I want to talk
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a little bit about that because this market went I
don't know, is it fair to say batshit crazy? And
Twitter was a blur And that's where I've got two
X factors this week, and we can go right into
those right now. And Connie's burner in this short Flames tenure,
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Perrek has already been cut down by our media, held
out of every game seeing his Peers debut, and has
seen defenders like being giveaway games. One has to wonder
how long he's going to want to remain in Calgary
when the time comes to extend. I thought this was
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slightly jumping the gun.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Slightly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, well I freaked out to the day because TSN
had a spot about how the habs finally found their
superstar his first game. Fuck off, like guy's doing, Like yeah,
he had a great debut, like get over it? Like hole.
I just I can't stand when they go that crazy.
But it's good to be excited. But yeah, headlines like
that are just click bait anyway, which I guess is
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what they're the business of. But this.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Maybe an overreaction.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well oh, come on here, like this guy's understands the
reasoning behind it. Now, I will defend the fact that
if you're going to run guys out there who have
been struggling, who I can't even say he struggling right
now because he Bean has been better the last couple
of weeks, But guys who struggled throughout the year, and
you're gonna hold perek out because you got Bean in.
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I don't know that I necessarily agree with that, but
I also respect the fact that, hey, we were we
were in the middle of a big chase, and god
forbid us COREC did make a defensive air that costs
us a game, probably undue pressure on a young player.
Probably not a great situation. So I understand both sides
of it. But let's take a look at our second
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X factor here. That one was from tab Perek might
have ruined the chemistry if he played today, and I
thought it was hilarious because all year we heard about
how good a chemistry this team has, how good a
chemistry this team has, And I just thought it was
it was comical that this guy took that angle with
with Perek. I know he said it like this now
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ways to read it, right, Yes, but I read it, Yeah,
that's how I read it. But I thought it was
I thought it was a clever X factor, right, I
thought I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I think so too. I do. I do take major, major,
major issue with coaches that don't take chances of young players,
even important games. And I was one of the people
who was like, I don't agree with not playing prect.
He recalled him he should get into a game, because
I do think he could have helped tu.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I our powerplay was what over nine or over
eight in the Anaheim game?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is that what it was? Anaheim game? Right?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That whole game was a piss me off, blur, But
you know, I mean, like that can he could have helped.
I remember, and I'm not nobody in Calgary Flames fanland
think I'm comparing here, but you remember clearly when Cale
mccarr stepped in for the Colorado Avalanche in the playoffs
against the Flames. I'm not comparing Zane Porrect to Cale mccarr,
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but he's a number nine overall pick. He was drafted
to be a game breaker, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, hey, listen, let's get one thing straight right now,
in terms of you know, credentials at eighteen nineteen years old,
you can compare them all day long. There's nothing wrong
with doing that. M practice every bit. The prospect that
mccar was that he would be as good as mccarr is.
I wouldn't call it a stretch. I wouldn't call it
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likely because mcar is a superstar, but it's it's certainly
in the realm of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I think he'll be as good offensively. I worry a
little bit defensively, and I think he's going to take
that knock with his whole career, right as long as
he's not defensively like Eric Carlson, I'll be okay, you've
got to be better than that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But can you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Imagine, like I don't know, I just I imagine having
his offensive skills and having a stick like Nick Linstrom,
he'd be the best defenseman of all time.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, let me throw another dagger here, we're gonna if
Perek played all the games this year, right, would he
be minus thirty eight?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Nope? Okay, point no, no, very simply because he would
have scored a hell of a lot more points. I
think as a rookie in the NHL, perk will land
forty five to fifty five points. I think he does
things better than the way he is his body to
protect the puck in offensive situations. He does it better
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than most defensemen in the ANHL. Now, granted, you need
a lot of other tools to be an NHL defenseman,
but he would have put up enough points to negate
a lot of the minuses he would have incurred. He
would have finished it minus fifteen maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'm just throwing that out there as like I didn't
mean it as a last minute job on Anderson.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah it is, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, it's a funny thing to point out, and again
it harkens back to the discussion for weeks now, how
do you justify giving Anderson that kind of money when
you have all these defensive prospects the way at TM
Mornez with the Monk the Walcats. Right now, they're up
two games to one in the second round against Bakomo.
The Cats are leading as we're recording, so they could
go home with their Sorry, it could go into the
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last game by Kimmel up through one of the series.
Man's a great defenseman too, you know, and he gets
overshadowed a lot by burs David Chimparak, and understandably so.
But we have so many good defensive players or prospects
I should say that are ready to get into the
NHL or at least start seeing action.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, Yeah, do you ever think, do you know what
we do? We have a lot of them, right, Do
you ever think that maybe we move one of them
or move two of them to try to get a
good center.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
All the time. I fully expect, I fully expect that's
gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I do too, and I think it's a smart move.
But I mean, that's probably another topic for another day.
There was some signing. Is Calgary signed a Calgary product,
Carter King to play with the Wranglers?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, yeah, the Wranglers now. But I mean this is
a pretty uh.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna boohoo this one. Okay,
here's why.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He's twenty three years old and he has a penalty
killing face off. Man, What do the Flames need a
large body score. I'm not saying we don't need depth
in the organization, but.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Hang on, hang on, what face off penaltykill man? We
need a fourth fine center.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And he's twenty three so maybe he is a guy too.
Maybe he's you know, maybe he is a guy. Hey
if he's quick, now, he'll do that to prove me wrong, right,
you know what I mean, that's how things work.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Kid's got a great name too. I'd love to have
a Flames King jersey.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, just really bother you. Calgary is really big at
this and Calgary is not the only one. My state
does this all the time. It drives me insane. Why
do they Why do we favor like, well, he's a
Calgary kid. Like that makes it like like okay, Like
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I just want the best freaking player. I don't care
if he's from Brazil, Like I just want the best player,
Like I don't I don't care.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Like Minnesota is huge.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
The Minnesota Wild suffered miserably for years because they hired
from within the state all the time, like, Oh, he's
a Minnesota guy.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
He's gonna be good for Oh, he's going to be good.
He's a Minnesota guy. And it's like, well, he's not good.
Like he's not good.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So, I mean, I just don't want to get down
that trap. And I don't know why I went off
on that tangent because I don't even know Carter King
and I watched him play this year a couple of times,
and he was pretty damn good. He had forty three
points in forty four games.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, real good. I think in this case it's a
little exciting that he's from Calgary because I think he
gave Calgary an upper hand on signing him. I agree,
because he's a pretty desirable free agent, right So, and
you know what, I like the fact that Connor keeps
trying these guys out. We're going to see sooney of
play against the Kings as well, so that should be cool.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, yep, that should be good. We signed a goalie
to twenty twenty round seventh rounder, Sir gav from Penn State.
He had a point nine one n.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, he's really really he's been sneaky man. Like all
these perier I'll call them peripheral signing, so none of
them are real sexy names at least as yet. I
dig that kind of stuff. Then that's what it's a flame.
The flames was successful in the eighties, was, you know,
signing guys all dranks. I'm sure that influenced your your
you know, your fandom as an American, right, seeing the
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signing the guys from places that weren't very far from.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You, for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
College hockey like like I know, like things are goofy
between the two right now, and it'll be fine, don't worry.
But like college hockey is really big in the States,
like really really big. It's really big, and it is
going to be the sought after place. I mean, Henry
Mus signed with Michigan. That's where he's headed, right, I Mean,
these universities are it's it's big time. And I know
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a lot of Canadians will say, well, they only play
on the weekends, and I agree, I agree, but you know,
I've also been told there's two sides of that. He
gives a lot more time for strength training, and at
the age these guys are, that's what moves them to
the next level. I remember when Jonathan taze what came
to the University of North Dakota. People the criticized criticism
on him was all he's he lacks upper body strength
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and da da dah. Well, when he left the University
of North Dkota, he was ready to step into a
Chicago Blackhawks line up and look at his career he
saw from him. Same with the Zach PERIZI same with it.
You know, the list on and on, and I'm speaking
of guys from the University of Northdakota where I live,
so I'm obviously so a little bit of favoritism there.
But I do know what the college programs and how
they move people forward at an age that is more
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NHL ready right.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
One hundred percent, and that that's kind of the knock
against the junior ranks in Canada and in some cases
at least, is that you know the strength of the
program and the competition depending on what part of the
country in or where that particular team is. Like right now,
for example, Monkton is running roughshot over the rest of
the Quebec League. That loss against Bakeoma was there first
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since February, I think. But anyway, point being, the college
ranks can be a way too fast tracked players to
be inn HL because the way they prepare. Now, I
wouldn't say this is wonder, this is better than the other.
It depends on their program we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But I think you know, like I always sad, people
always say what would you do with your kid, you know,
living in the States, And I'm like, dude, if my
kid was a first line projected draft pick, he's going
to the he's going to play in the WHL or
going up into the CHL. He is that's the I
just feel like that's the best place at age seventeen
to go, right.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's the job of that's the job of these scouts too, right,
is to just to go visit with the players and say, hey,
this is one this is the best place for you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Right yeah, I mean that would be that would have
been in my path.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Now with the eligibility of you know, HL players come
into the college now it's going to change and skew things.
I still think that would be the place to go.
But maybe coming back down and I think you're going
to see a ton of this, I do. I think
you're gonna see a ton of people go up play
two years in the WHL or just use that as
an example, and then they're gonna they're gonna come out
of Brandon and and head down and play for uh
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the University of Minnesota for a year slash two years
and then move on into the pro ranks. I think
that's the role that we're gonna we're going to see
happen a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah. Absolutely, But you know, in any case, looking at
the Flames and the things that they're doing with regards
to scouting, the CHL, scouting, the college hockey ran scouting overseas,
and you look at a guy like the Ridge a
few years ago who nobody had ever heard of and
now was a regular. Adam Klapka the top about guys
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gonna have be an impact player in this team next year.
Clapp is on my list.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He's not a first line wing though, he's a fourth
line wing, and just let him be a fourth liner
and he'll be good.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He's gonna make our fourth line good.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'd even put him on the
power plane in front of the net and the second unit.
Sometimes I want he's got some hands.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Maybe maybe he's a third I don't know, but I
would say he's probably more before.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's hard, you know, it's hard to do this show
with a team like Calgar right now for all the
right reasons, because there's so many things to talk about,
and you almost get to compartmentalize, and it's like, like
Dustin Hole, for example, It's like, that's done, Dustle Wolf
is amazing, right, There's nothing a debate there. He's fucking amazing. Yeah,
and then we move on to the prospects and the unknowns,
and it's like there's there's so much, so many positive
things around this team, which kind of brings me to
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the topic of how apparently the culture is so much
more positive. There's been a lot of back and forth
with that, and I think that's why, to circle back
to the start of this particular episode, that's why there
was so much talk about, you know, the players not
being mad enough necessarily because they're looking at the game
differently I think than they had maybe in the past.
I'm sure they're still disappointed obviously, but yeah, I cultures changed,
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you know, and.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
You know what, we haven't had locker clean out, and
that's what we'll discuss next episode next week. But I
think I think there's a lot of realists, you know,
Like I think me and you have looked at this too,
and were we crabby last night about it? Probably I
probably wasn't near as mad as I thought I was
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And well, and those are watching my tweets, like I
was really trying more to be funny than mad, because
at that point, I'm like, well, I can't change it. It
is what it is, right.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It kind of hit me though that it's like, wow,
tomorrow is our last game like that, that's kind of
weird of the year. It seems like it went really fast.
But I mean I was angry, but I was more like,
I look at the situations that we had this year
and how things have We actually answered a lot of
questions that me and you had going into the season,
and I feel good about that. I feel good about
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what we learned this year. I feel good about some
players like Matthew Coronado. I'm way more excited. I questioned
his skating ability. Whoever's teaching him skating. He's moving up
the ranks every single year, and I mean, we're progressing
some of these young guys, and that's something this franchise
had a struggle bus with for many, many years. And
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there was just some real good positives this year.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Well, I mean one of the highlights of the season
for me was being in Montreal when Coronado scored the
overtime winner. Just an absolute bullet, right, And you know
the thing is and you just hit the nail on
the head, whether you realize it or not, about you know,
the season being over. So I'm looking at the calendar,
you know, you're my home studio, and Tuesday, April fifteenth
was the day we got eliminate from playoff contention.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Who saw that coming?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
If you said that last fall, somebody would have said, oh,
you meant to say February or March.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
You know, I'm gonna piss some people off by saying this.
But I was angry about this, probably more last night
than the final scores. For people to see, you know,
these pro tankers that are saying, see, this is exactly
what we said was gonna happen. We're gonna fall right
out of the playoffs. We're gonna get the crappiest draft
pick you know what, Like who plays professional sports to lose?
Like ask the Blackhawks how the rebuilds go, and ask
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the Sabers how the rebuilds going. You know, how about
we asked the Dallas Stars how the real tool went.
Let's ask the Washington Capitals how the retool went. Come on, guys,
this is how it played out. Our team played their
ass off this year. They came up short, which sucks
because I wanted the experience for these players to play
in the playoffs. But damn it, we did everything we could, right.
Did we throw a few games away?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yes? Do we learn for that? I sure as hell hope? So? Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
The only thing that I really struggle with is looking
at the East they could we're firmly in the playoffs Spotify.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
While we were last year too.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah. It's so man, that drives me nuts. But well,
there's a lot of things that drive me nuts. Is
anybody who listens to this this show obviously knows. But
the thing is that keeps coming up that really also
irks me. It's like all the talk about the draft
pick we traded in Montreal when we dump Sean Monahan,
and I'm gonna tell you why. So Sean Monahan rebuilt
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his career in God loved that. Sean Monahan is a
great guy. I've met him, I've met his dad, great family,
great retribution story. None of us, as Flame Sands, will
ever forget the embraced that he and Johnny gudrou shared
after Game seven against Dallas twenty two. But this is
what happened. Okay. All this talk about the Flames and
how horrible that trade was, and it was horrible. I
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would put it right up there, right just behind the
Doug Gilmore trade, the marks of our trade. It's one
of the worst trades the Flames ever made, giving around
a pick, given away a pick rather and giving away
a sixty point player. But guess what it was. What
are we almost three years ago now and it happened.
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It's over, we can undo it. It was a bad
trade by a GM who no longer works for this team.
I don't care. I don't pay any attention at all
to where that pick lands because either and it doesn't
really affect the future of the team, because the reality
is we have so many good players in the pipeline,
and so many good players in the team, many of
them we didn't expect. With me as good as err
as quickly as the air, we have the assets and
(43:16):
the ability to move things around such that that pick
will be nothing to worry about and the not too
distant future, so.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
You know, another thing to like.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I know that the negative guys will say, well,
you don't know how all these prospects are going to
turn out.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I don't, And you know what, I guarantee you some
of them aren't going to turn out in Zane Perrek.
Maybe one of them that doesn't ever translate to the Angaeil,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, that's that would be horri But I but I feel.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Like I have a hell of a lot better chance
with a guy like him and what I've seen from him,
and a guy like Dustin Wolf, which we thought again
this year, like I feel more comfortable with that than
some of the years past.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, did actually speaking to Dustin Wolf. This is a
really good note, or one of the notes we should
finish on. I think the Flames that actually posted this
and I looked at it and had a glance while
I was working today. But oh, it's his birthday today too,
twenty four. That's right. I forget about that. They shared.
(44:15):
I don't know where it is now, but they shared
the company that Wolf keeps as a rookie goaltender for
wins goals against saves. I think that because the Canadians,
well we should check. It's likely the Canadians are going
to the playoffs. Dust Dustin Wolfe's case for the Calders
as strong as you can make for a goaltender. He's
been unbelievable. Yeah, they have the habs up three to
(44:36):
one at the second emission, So at the time of this.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Recording, Hudson's going to get the calder and it's.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Going to get Yeah, and he's a fantastic defenseman. If
the Flames made the playoffs. If the Flames made the playoffs, yeah,
and wolf had maybe two more shutouts. Different discussion altogether,
but what a what a season from Dustin wolf This
is Can you imagine? Just think about this. We traded
Jacob Markstrom. We will have one more year to pay
that little pittance of his salary left. By the way,
(45:02):
next season we pay one point one to eight or
something to the Devil's or should say paid the Markstrom
of a salary. But we traded mark Strom to make
a room for dust A Wolf and we got Kevin
Ball as part of that. Yeah, that is tidy, tidy work.
That is the best trade Barden on the Conray's made
so far. He makes it a little like that's this
this summer. Next season we're only making the playoffs. Might
(45:24):
win round or two. Unbelievable work.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, two NHL things I want to talk about before
we quickly get out of here because the buzzer is
going to go here.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Canucks come backs for three goals in one minute to
force overtime against Dallas?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Did you see that? I did? Did Dallas look like
they were a Beer League team and didn't give a shit?
That's what?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's such a leading question? How could I possibly answer
out of the way? Then yes, Brat, that's correct, perfect, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
For agree and you're the only person that agrees with
me on stuff. Here's another one I wanted to ask
you bout. Did you see the fight the other night
between Derek Forbert and that Jakov Trn?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, I hate the Canucks, right, I don't like the
Cannucks at all.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
But really, I've never heard you mention I hate the
Canucks on the show.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, I know, that's the first time I've said that.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Actually, when you when you asked me to join this show,
I think the second thing you said was I'm going
to tell you a lot how much i hate the Canucks.
I hope that's okay.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh yeah, orbital ball in it. What is he doing
on a sucker punch when the guy's down? Like, yeah,
that was brutal. That's classless garbage. I hate stuff like
that in our league.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, fun fact, I do it. First of all, I
agree it's incredibly stupid and reckless and dangerous. I love
to see if there's going to be a fight when
a player's falling, the other player puts his hand behind
the back of the head of the player. For that
is the classiest, safest like that. That's just great. But
I had Derek Forbert's Black Sea Game war Jersey and
(46:55):
I tried it.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I got his Winnipeg nets one.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's right, and I trade it one of his flames,
one one of the few that exists, like there's only
three of them. I traded it for one of my
Trivlews jerseys so good raad. Yeah, I'm gonna get them
all to me like pokemon man. Gotta gotta catch them
all one of these days.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Do you know that next time we talk, which will
be the Tuesday drop next week, the playoffs will be
already underway. So we got thirty seconds. I'm gonna rattle
off the rounds in the Western Conference because we don't
know the East yet. I want you to tell me
who you think is gonna win. Jets, Blues, Jets.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Gotta hope the Jets.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Me too, but I'm afraid I want this yet. Stars Avalanche, Avalanche,
me too.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
That's why I think too. Golden Knights, Wild, Golden.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Knights, Golden Knights King, although I'd love to I'd love
to see Fleury start that series and win it. Kings
oilers like this is here, the Kings would knock them off.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I think the Kings knock them off this year to.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
An injury trouble like no walk Home, for example, and
the Kings are a deep team. Yeah what, let's let's
just take a stab at these There's only one series
we don't know, right, Okay, So I'm gonna ask you. Yeah,
I'm gonna ask you, so let's do. What do we got.
We've got Toronto, Ottawa, Toronto. I want Ottawa so bad.
(48:11):
I know me too, I'm worried about it. I want
Ottawa as well.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Tampa, Florida, Florida, but it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
I'm gonna say Tampa, but it is gonna be good. Carolina,
New Jersey, Carolina kills him. Four Street, I'm gonna say
in six, but yeah, it's gonna be a doozy. And
then we get we're gonna I'm gonna assume based on
the current UH standings or the most likely to be
the standings after tonight, Montreal.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Washington, Montreal upsets them.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I think so too. I really, I really believe that.
I think you know demb it off. Despite the fact
that the people to calm down about him earlier. He's
a real wild card. Hudson we talked about. Gallagher is
a great playoff performer. Suzuki Coffeel I man, and I
hope so too. I said, my father hates the has
but I told him again tonight over dinner. I'm like, Dad,
you got to understand, I don't care how much you
(49:06):
hate the habs. It's better for hockey. When the Habs
are in the playoffs, that building is absolutely untouchable.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
It's better for hockey, it really is.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
And if it is Columbus Washington, I just I think
Washington runs rough shot over them.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, that's cool Washington. It'll be Columbus.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
We end the season Thursday night Calgary and LA the
Fire makeup game. We'll be back next Tuesday Drop. We'll
wrap on that King's game. We'll talk some prospect performance
in that game, do locker clean out discussion, and rap
on the season. In the off season, Kyle and I
will be here every single week in the off season.
(49:44):
Some of them will be here some regular episodes. We're
gonna have a live draft, free agency show, and then
we'll have numerous special flame topic shows that we'll talk
a variety of different things between good credes, bad things,
a whole bunch of stuff. But we're gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Every week every week. You really want to do that
in August, we're doing it. Okay, We're gonna like pre
record like ten for us contract. I didn't read the fine.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
In your contract. I I know your contract last night.
Uh No, we're gonna have fun. We're gonna pre record
a bunch of them and make sure you guys get
something to listen to every week. That's how it's best, right.
Hockey never stops, So we're gonna do that. We are
gonna do that. My Big Things goes out to our buddies.
(50:28):
Josh sent us Ceey today searching for Scarlett. Kyle and
I both got it. I got mine today.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Did you get yours today too?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I got mine on Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh see, I'm in the States. Takes a little longer.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
There's no international border between these guys and I just
a lot of provinces. No.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, they're a long ways away, but good music. You'll
hear them on the intro of this show and the
outro of this show claims fans, it's been a rough week,
but a fun week. And I don't know totally we've
got a little bit more positivity to the negativity that
we're not playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
But that was fun.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
That was an absolute blast. And I guess I sound
like the Flames. Maybe that's being two positive. Let's end
on that note.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
I think Kyle got in the show crabby and he's
ending the show happy, sprink a lot of water, laying today.
I got one thing today. All right, Plains fans enjoy
what's left of the season.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
One game. We'll back next week. You have a good
week playing with the playoffs. The playoffs are here. Take care.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Thanks for listening to Flames Unfiltered with Brad Burud and
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