May 14, 2025 • 30 mins
Obscure Favorite Flames – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 242
Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
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Who is your craziest favorite Flames player? Hosts Brad Burud and Kyle Lewis discuss the obscure Flames players who became the hosts favorites.
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Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
--- EPISODE 242 ---
SPECIAL EPISODE
Who is your craziest favorite Flames player? Hosts Brad Burud and Kyle Lewis discuss the obscure Flames players who became the hosts favorites.
Website: Flames Unfiltered
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts
Watch: YouTUBE
Social Media – X - @FlameUnfiltered |FACEBOOK – Flames Unfiltered |INSTAGRAM – Flames Unfiltered | TikTok – flames.unfiltered
NHL #HockeyX #TalkinHockey #HockeyPodcast #Flames #cofred #nhlflames #calgaryflames #YYC #FireItUp
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey, Flames fans. Walking to Flames Unfiltered Special Self, Brad
Rude and Kyle Lewis talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Obscure favorite Flames players over the years, the guys that
we liked but probably really had no business having them
be some of our favorites.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But a little different topic, a little bit of fun
Flames Dot Kyle, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Just standy, just standy yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I didn't know if you were going to respond there.
I thought you were like checking out on me.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
There, No, No, I've checked out on lots of things lately,
but no, this isn't one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh well, you know we've talked about this, about this
episode and about like guys that we've out is one
of the actually one of the first conversations I remember
us ha and is about some guys that it's like, yeah,
I really liked him, but not sure why because he
was never like a superstar or anything like that for
the Flames. But guys that we liked but probably weren't
(01:29):
I don't know fan favorites or what. I guess how
maybe they were. I don't know. Maybe other people like
the same guys we did, but some different different guys.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's kind of like cult classics when you talking about
movies and TV shows, right, Like, there's some there's some measures. Yeah,
there's some measures success there, but you know, nothing like
like I said, not superstars, and really, I mean, let's
be honest, the Flames haven't had a lot of superstars
in their history, so it should be pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But like music too, we could relate to that because
me and you always go back to music. That's one
of the things that honestly, quite honestly, if it wasn't
for music in like eighties rock, me and you probably
wouldn't talk.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I remember seeing your Twitter handle and it said blames
fan and something about rock music, and you listened to
a couple of the same stuff, and I'm like, oh man,
And so then I ended up a messaging you and
one thing led to another. Right. So there's always bands
that I always thought, you know, we're like Jesus, nobody
really likes this band, but I sure like this band.
(02:29):
And that's kind of how what we're doing here with
these players. Do you want to go first? I get
like five of them that really stuck out in my mind,
and I know you have some two, so let's kind
of just go back and forth and talk about the
guys that we think probably deserve a little more credit.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I and the first one that comes to mind
for me, and I've always had a sauce spot for
fast players in particular, but Dean mcammond. So, Dean mcammond
is the lesser known piece of the MCI line with
again on on Conroy and when again La scored his
career high fifty two goals ninety six points and Conray
had seventy five points that year, if I'm not mistaken, now,
(03:07):
Mcammon's really interesting because he was a really effective piece
on that line, But he also is known for being
traded away and traded back in the same season, but
due to the CBA rules at the time, was not
eligible to play when he was reacquired by the Flames,
and that would have been in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three to finish the seasons. That was
a really, really weird rule. So he actually came back
(03:29):
the following season with Calgaren had a pretty decent season
but didn't play in the playoffs due to injuries. So
he was on the roster for the two thousand and
four Stanley Cup run, but was not playing, which a
lot of people I think tend to forget.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I did not even I did not even know that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And actually I saw one of his game war in
Jersey's on eBay not long ago, and it was or
maybe it was on Facebook. I can't remember. Anyway, very
tempting to try and pick that one up, but I
don't need any more. In fact, they may end up
selling a few because I just got too many. But
he he was a really really underrated piece for Calgary
and a very underrated NHL overall. So he's my He's
my first draft choice for you know, favorite flames that
(04:04):
people didn't necessarily think a whole lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's an interesting one. I honestly I didn't even remember him.
I just punched him up now on as we were talking,
and I didn't. He played seventeen years of the National
Hockey League.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And yeah, played with Philly, He played with I think Colorado,
he got he played for Ottawa and Ottawa in the
preseason is where he got absolutely leveled by Steve Downey
with an absolutely brutal hit to the head.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Was that him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was awful off
for nine teams.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, wow, that many Philly.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The Islanders, Colorado, New Jersey. Single was Calgary for two years, Ottawa, Chicago,
and Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Now I remember Chicago and Edmonton. In Chicago, he was
a pretty good piece too. But really guys like him
and we talked about them quite often on the show
and in hockey in general, like when they can play
from your third line to your first line, to pinch made.
They're a good p the killers, good skaters, they're viable,
and yeah, I don't think I'm alone and thinking very
highly of him. So that's my first who you got?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know, I'm gonna throw in my first and it's
probably one that you're gonna you're probably gonna chuckle in.
There's a couple of reasons why I like this guy.
Number One, the first experience I had watching him live
irritated the hell out of me. I was up going
up to Winnipeg, and I believe it was in like
ninety five ninety six. What year did Winnipeg leave ninety six,
(05:34):
so it'd have been yeah, the ninety five ninety six season. Okay,
So I'm going up to Winnipeg to watch the Flames play,
and I'm excited to watch Trevor kid. But guess who
I didn't get to watch Trevor. I kept to watch
Rick Taberacchi.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And nice.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He kind of turned into one of my little obscure
Flames favorites, and I remember watching him that game and
he ended up giving up a hat trick to Keith
Kachuk in the third period who's at the last second,
which irritated me, But it was fun to watch that game,
and he was going up against Nikolai Hobby Bullin, who
I still think is a top ten all time goalie
in this league. I know I could get a ton
(06:11):
of arguments and be proven wrong on that, but I
always thought he was such a good goalie. But watching
Rick Taberacci as a Flame, he was kind of a
wild non he didn't really have what's the word I'm
looking for. He was really non typical goalie, kind of
a flopper, wild snaves, doing all kinds of wild stuff,
(06:35):
but really like watching him. And then, ironically, like twenty
years later after his career, I'm at a flooring show
because Kyle and I have talked about her professions outside
of doing this, and I work in flooring and Kyle
works in building trades, and I'm at a Flooring National
(06:56):
Flooring Show, and I have him meeting to me with
a client and they told me I had a new rep.
And the new rep walks over and introduces himself as
Rick Taberacci. I laughed and said, there can only be
one Rick Taberacci. And he smiles at me and he says,
do you like hockey? And I'm like, I know who
(07:17):
you are, and I'll be more about of hockey than
we did what we were intending to meet about. But
interesting story there.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, we actually a bunch of us on on acts
a few years ago, like crowdfund that a Rick Taberacci
jersey for Johnny Stope and we sent it to him
because he was such a Taberacchi fan and that was
a kind of a really cool thing. And it really
speaks to why we're doing the show, because there's a
lot of people that, you know, think really highly of
players that didn't necessarily have any huge impact. And I
actually remember your Rick Tabati story. So do you saw
(07:48):
have any contact with him?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I don't. He does not. He no longer works for
that company, and I really honestly don't know where he
went because his wife actually worked for the company too,
So I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, it wasn't one of my main companies that I
dealt with, let's put it that way. But yeah, irregardless,
it was a contact. I mean, it was an unplanned
contact but ended up being a kind of funny story.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And actually, since we're since for
on the topic of goaltenders, I'll go with my next one.
Because we could talk about this forever and ever, and
we're going to try to keep this reasonably brief. I'm
gonna go with Roman Turk and there's a few reads.
And again, I've always got reasons for this. The biggest
reason I was such a big Roman Turk fan was
(08:36):
that same O one O two season that I talked
about it. Keep in mind the way the Flames started
that season. I think there were fourteen three and three
started the season with back to back shutouts. He was
a shiny new toy acquired from Saint Louis after a
bit of a you know, face plant in the playoffs
the previous spring, rattled off two straight shutouts and the
team I remember being in high school and the team
(08:57):
was all of a sudden, like really really good and
it didn't last. They later fell apart. It was a
great Gilbert thing and Mark Savar being dealt and blah
blah blah. But Turk was the first time like, oh
my god, my team's actually gonna be good. And a
couple of years later, as many Flames fans will hopefully remember,
and if not, I'm happy to remind you, Roman Turik
(09:18):
actually restructured his contract. It took a pay cut to
remain with the Flames, which is such a rarity and
really speaks to just how much he wanted to be
part of winning team. And he was a great backup
to Mickey Kipersoft in that one season two he really was.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't even know if you can do that with
a contract anymore, can you? I don't believe you can.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'm not sure. I mean, it would have to be
a mutual agreement of some kind, which would likely, you know,
lead to a mutual termination of some kind. But and
I mean he was a big, big dude, huge Iron
Maiden fan. Of course, I had Ddie on his helmet,
which I was thought was cool. But yeah, for a
very brief period in his career, he made the Flames
(09:57):
relevant until the way he started to fall off. The
team just wasn't that good. But that started that season.
I remember they beat Chicago one of the first two games,
and I want to say Edmonton, but Chicago for short
was like, Wow, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Do you remember those McFarlane figures that they used to have. Yep,
I believe they may still make them. You don't see
him anymore. I have a Roman Turbot Roman Turk one.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I remember getting the blasty one of the white jersey one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, I had the white jersey one. I had the white.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Nice because it was one of those two of him,
which is pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. So who else
you got? I got a shot. We're doing five each,
by the way, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we're not going to keep you here all day.
So Eric Neistram, I got a guy that I think
this organization had much higher hopes for myself included his
highest point year was in nine nine ten he had
only nineteen points. But I always always seemed like to
(10:50):
me that Eric neserm was hard worker, like always always
working hard, always seemed to have the right attitude and
played on some teams that were really in a really
down time for the Flames. And it was back when
we were drafting a lot of prospects in hopes of
turning the fate of this team around, and he was
(11:13):
just one that just didn't seem to click. But I
always really liked him playing. I remember getting an autograph
stick from him, and just a really good, good guy
and kind of one of those obscure guys that I
always cheered for.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, and he was was it three? He was drafted,
believe so so. I actually I think he may have
known this one point, I had a really banged up
red Nystrom game war and jersey, and yeah I did.
I eventually sold it to a guy in Florida. I
don't know where it is now, and I wouldn't mind
(11:48):
reacquiring it because I later found out he actually wore
that in the first Flames game I ever attended against
Columbus in February of two thousand and nine. Really it's
the same exact same jersey, like a one of one
that he wore that night and had some awesome repairs, which,
as we've talked about, makes game wars, you know, even
more viable because they're stitched up and they have all
these different markets. But that was a beautiful jersey. I
(12:10):
could find this the guy who sold it to but
he might have sold it since I don't know, but
it was it was a nice one.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
He He was actually an O two pick by Calgary,
tenth overall. Tenth overall pick though, so we had Remember,
there's just a lot of talk and a lot of
high hopes for him, and obviously he didn't meet those
high hopes. But all in all I thought was was
it was. It was a good piece of the organization.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It isn't that interesting too, because he didn't debut until
I want to say six, so seven, perhaps five six.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He had two games, but didn't really step in as
a normal flame until really, honestly, in the seven O
eighty he had forty four games, eight oh nine he
played seventy six, and then the following year eighty two before.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But how many how often now do you see a
guy that's the first round pick take four years to
make his NHL debut three.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Or four hours. We don't, We don't wait that. We
don't have patients anymore at all. We want instant gratification.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh, it's a nice Boos and Tuna reference. Well done.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I didn't even think of that. We use them on
the on the intro out to this show.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, happy little accident right there. Oh,
what's another fight? And I'm doing this off the cuff.
I thought a little bit about it, but I really
wanted to, like, you know, just try to trigger.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Smaries of how we do this.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, Dave Lowery, I Yeah, I love Dave, Dave Lowery,
I've met him. Wonderful guy, hilarious guy, in fact, very
self deprecating. I told him that I had one of
his game waring jerseys and he said, well, sure's Allen,
Sure as hell isn't hanging from the rafters. And I
(13:46):
started laughing as so, well, I wasn't the only bidder,
he said, yeah, the other one was probably my mother.
So and actually Dave Lowry billeted with the buddy Mine's
parents years and years ago, which is which is pretty cool,
But there was And I tried to find this and
I might have to reach out to somebody at the
CBC to see if they can find this clip. But
when he signed in Calgary, when he left San Jose
(14:09):
after the ninety nine two thousand season, they did a
really cool feature on what it meant for Lowry to
come to Calgary. He became the captain. He brought his
family with him, which of course included Jets captain now
Adam Lowry. It was just a really wholesome feature about
like what a good guy he was. He had that
ninety six cup on with Florida. He's part of the
four run of the Flames, like he had a He
(14:30):
was a very valuable piece. And I remember when him
and Doug Gilmore collided in the four season and they're
both injured for a while, and Lowry got into a
few games I want to say, maybe ten games or
so on that playoff run, but he left it all
on the ice all the time. I'm still pissed about
the way Greg Kilbert stripped in his captain sey because
I thought he was a good captain, but he just
(14:51):
he was such a character guy, such a character guy.
And actually I saw one of his captains game wore
on jerseys not long ago and it went for I
don't like five grand or six grand or something, and
it was just yeah, yeah, so much money.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah. You can tell a lot about his character too
by by watching his son now Adam, captain of the
Winnipig Jets. You know that stuff. How do you say
that that's that's bred in the family by their work
ethic and their attitude and their leadership qualities. And he
passed that down to his son and and and makes
(15:25):
Adam Lowery one of the key guys that if you said, Brad,
I want you to go build an NHL team tomorrow,
Adam Lowery would be near the top of my list
of guys I would add to my roster.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh, look at the goalie scored in Game seven. You know,
get that series against the Blues this year. Now. The
other thing too, that's worth mentioning here is that I
would like say Lowry is just so highly thought of,
as you know, as a character guy. But he's coached
in Calgary with the Hitman the Flames, he's coached with
the Jets, he's coached with Seattle. He's carved out a
pretty nice coaching career for himself too. He's a sought
(15:55):
after guy, so good for him.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Definitely the next guy list played three seasons with the
Calgary Flames. I did get to meet him one time
on a on another Winnipeg trip. That's Steve's chase on
And the reason I have him on the list is
I love the style that he played defensively. Just he
was one of those guys that you could always you
(16:21):
never you never swore at the TV.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He just he was safe, right, He made smart plays,
safe plays. Wasn't you know the big point getter. I
believe his highest points total in Calgary was like thirty something.
He just went out there and was a stable, stable
defenseman who made smart plays. Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Absolutely. And he was part of the Mike Vernon trade,
wasn't he he was? Yeah, that's right, big piece coming back.
That's that's a very significant trade in Flames history. So
that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, Yeah, sadly his life was was cut short, that's right.
But another another player that was kind of flew under
the radar of Flame you know, favorite Flames, but was
what was one of mine?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, absolutely, and with good reason. Really really good character
player and a good guy. And I remember when that
news broke that he passed, and it's so sad do
you think about like that, like, you know, his passing,
Brad mccrinan m crimin obviously Steve Monitor, and then you
know so many others around the league, Serget Bears and Roman,
Chuck Manic Ramory, like the Wade Black Derek Bugard. I mean,
(17:29):
it's it's really amazing how quickly the years go and
and you know, you think about all those memories you
have with some of these guys, and it's so sad
to think that a lot of them are no longer
with us. Hmmm. So another and I went back and
forth on defenseman a bit too, on a few different
guys that I liked, and uh, one of them that
(17:49):
I landed on because he was a really pivotal part
of when the Flames finally became good when he chose
to sign here, uh just after during the lockout or
just after I believe, was Roman ham So Hammerlock had
a hell of a shot and he was chiefly responsible
for bringing along Dean fuin Off as a rookie as
his deep partner. And hammer Look had been a very
(18:12):
sought after defenseman for a number of years, had a
lot of success in Tampa Bay, for example, he was
with the Islanders. Had an absolute rocket of a shot
and was a very steady presence I felt, and was
just I remember like him, Tony A. Monte, Darren McCarty,
who I'll be playing hockey within a few weeks. Like
those guys, they really signaled a change with the new
(18:32):
the new CBA and the lockout ending. It's like, okay,
all of a sudden, the Flames zoilers. These teams can
get good players, and hammer lock was was one of
those pieces, and he came along at the perfect time.
We really needed a guy like that. He was only
here for two seasons, but they were two really effective seasons,
and he kind of started a trend of like went
from Hammerlick to Adrian o'coyn yes, and we had these
(18:52):
guys and o Coin I'm gonna go on to mention
here too, just because these guys like they were really
really important and they were a big part of Flames
teams that really underachieved in the two thousands, the you know,
the mid to late two thousands. But Hammertck was a
personal favorite of mine.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
After Hammer, like you said, went on to a Coin
and who else did? We went on to another big
defenseman there that I believe we lost to. I guess
why am I drawing a blank?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We lost to Vegas. That'd have been Derek England. There
you go, Derek Englin, and we had.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
They all kind of fit that mold though, you know
what I'm talking about well.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And it was a weird time too, because, like Ratt
Warner started to have some injury troubles and he kind
of faded into a security By two thousand and nine,
Corey Serich was a big piece, you know, there was
there was a run of There was a real run
of actually have one of Sarah's game more in Jersey's
h There was a run off. Yeah, and they were.
There are a couple of menure pieces to the Robin
Riguiers of Dion Fineps, the jay Bowmeisters of the world.
(19:47):
Jim Vandermere, you know, was a big part of that
series against San Jose in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is that the series?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, yeah, nine.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
That's when Ronic scored We lost in game seven. That
was a tough, tough series. That's one where Sarah's destroyed Marlow.
That was fun. That was really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What year was it though, Was it like ninety eight
when we were up three games to none on San
Jose and ended up losing three or four straight in
overtime to lose the series.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, it's rough, man, those those were well, that would
have been well, yeah, it would have been. They didn't
make the playoffs in ninety eight. Ninety six against Chicago
was the last appearance prior to four because I remember
those eight year gap, but it might have been ninety five.
I think that that. Yeah, anyway, there's we don't want
to get into playof Failures. That's a whole other special episode.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Another episode we are going to do possibly this summer.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My next guy was a guy that when I think
of Calgary Flames who were like Pierre Snipers, I put
him in this list. You might argue with me a
little bit on this one, but I was Christian Husalias.
I loved watching Christian Husalias play. Yeah. Yeah, he was
just so skilled offensively was it the most physical presence
(21:02):
out there? But his six seven year when he had
thirty four goals seventy seven points, yeap on real, what
a year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Well, And he was acquired for Steve Monitor from Florida
and one of the rare times where I think Darryl
Sutter really clearly recognized his team seriously lacks skill and
Usailias brought that in spades. He was one of the
most skilled Flames players to ever play there. And he
had a big season in Columbus after that too. I
remember actually he did.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He had a sixty three point season in Columbus too. Yeah,
you know, my very first time I ever went to
the saddle Dome, I bought a Christian Hussaleus jersey.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh nice, nice number, that was what I bought.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He he had later had some legal trouble, I remember, uh,
And he had he suffered some really really serious birds. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I see him on once in a while.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, but yeah, he liked he liked to be in
my tweets at one point a few years ago. I remember.
Actually that's I kind of forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
An interesting player though, But you're right, just super super
skilled offensively, and I just when he got the puck
in the slot, it was like, oh he's gonna bury
this for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
He Yeah, he had like the real puck on a
strength thing going for him. Like when he had the puck,
like he could keep away with it really really effectively.
And yeah, no, he was. He was a very very
effective Flames player for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
All Right, I got the final one.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, this is tough because I've gone back and forth
on so many and like the names run through your head.
And not an obscure player by any stretch, but a
very obscure flame and it drives me nuts. Some of
people don't even realize he played in Calgary's Marxi Bard.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh, why did I know you were gonna go? Yeah's
play power played deficiencies, Yeah, card.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, he war Ober twenty seven in Calgary was true
for Roslyn Zanelin. He never played in Calgary, but he
had a sixty five point season with the Flames. I remember,
and it was like he had that spat with Greg
Gilbert that I lived too earlier, and he got traded.
And I will forever contend that it is one of
the top three worst Flames trades of all time because
(23:18):
even if we talked about the Gilmore trade, at least
with Gilmore, they got stuff, they got things, they got people.
They got absolutely nothing from Marcus Varden. I'm pretty suref
you go on the Flames website, Zanalin is still technically
Flames property twenty five years later.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Nice Segakle, we are doing this episode here in the
coming weeks. Also, is trades that significant trades in Flames history?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah yeah, And I mean he like he mesh well
with again law. He was super skilled. He went on
to have monster seasons in Atlanta and Boston before obviously
his careers got shor up by injury, so sadly he
was it was required from the New York Rangers. Was
an absolute gem, I think. I think one of the
pieces of Back to New York was Jon Halavich, who
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played with Peter Nedven orrad Ati Worrack on that infamous
check line in the other two thousands. So ah, man,
my brain is swimming, all right, hit me, what do
you got for your last one?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Last one is the speedster that had really, honestly one
good year and it was the year that he goes
on the four Cup run. And that's Sean Donovan. I
he was. He had eighteen goals, twenty four assist forty
two points that year. But man, I like watching this
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guy play.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, I did too fast, fast, fast, huge part of
the over a Cup run.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know what I mean. I sit and I look
at that roster. I was thinking about this actually earlier today,
that four roster, and how I was thinking about the
current day roster, and I was thinking about, well, he
can't play on a championship team, you know. I was
just looking at our current players and I'm like picking
out guys and I'm like he can't play in a
championship team. And then I sit in and think about
the four roster and I look at guy. It's like
we talked about earlier in this episode, Lowry, what an
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impact he was on that in a small more or
lesser role, and you had guys like Chuck Kobasu in
a lesser role, a guy like Sean Donovan in a
lesser role. I mean, let's be serious. Shan Donovan was
minus ninety in his career. This guy is still one
of my favorites because of what he did for a
playoff run. Yeah, that's it. This guy played for seven
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teams in his career. But watching his speed and watching
what he brought to the team an aspect of what
it took to get this team. You know of a
bunch of guys that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
There a lot of stars, No, very, very very for him,
Billy Neemanan, Chris Clark, Oleague, Soprankan. Now here's a fun
one for me. And don't give me any because I
gotta think about this, but I want you said seven
teams that Donovan played for. Yeah, okay, so Calgary, Atlanta, Yeah, Ottawa. Uh,
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this is whatere. It's tough. Let me think, now, well,
this is like it's really tough.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh yeah, I started hot, man, I cooled off quick.
I thought I was hot and ready for that one.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Hello. And I do this all the time too. I
think I know he played for Boston. He did play
one year in Boston. Yes, so you're four of them
so far, all right?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Uh uh?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All the ones that you're missing are pre Calgary ones?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Oh? Really? Was? It was Atlanta after Calgary.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Atlanta was before Calgary. Okay, okay, he's got three ones
before Calgary. I agree with the fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You played for San Jose. He did, man, I'm five
for seven.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh. And then he went from San Jose to where.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So somewhere between San josean and Atlanta? Yes, oh shit,
I don't know, man, it wasn't enough. I didn't know
that actually, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And then he went to Atlanta for two no excuse me,
three in Atlanta, and then he went somewhere for two
years right before Calgary Eastern Conference team. I never knew this. Philly,
Pittsburgh didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh you know what? No, that does sound that does
sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Wow? And I was waiting for you to bring up
because I know how much you were a fan of his,
and I'm still looking for a game more Jersey his
for you.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I know I would like that, I really would he
I really liked watching him play, you don't. You know
what's funny though, Like the guy did not score very much.
But I went up to Calgary.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
In forty two points on eighteen goals in O three
oh four? Am I right?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, do you know that? That's scary? But well
five or six I went up to Calgary to watch
them play two games, one against Colorado, one against Detroit.
In the Colorado game they beat him six two and
Sean Donovan had two goals. He only had nine all year.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Oh wow, that you went to the right game then
if you're Sean Donovan fan. Wow huh. Well, you know what,
we'll have to do an episode about like flames and
I think we talked with this actually doing you know,
flames that drove us nuts. They were more you know,
and right away I've got like fifteen so that could
be a three hour episode. But anyway, I better make.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
A note here that's what we got to do next.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Oh man, I hope none of those guys are listeners.
I can imagine, but you never know, you.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Know what, they probably would want to join the show.
I mean it because I mean, once your career is done,
and I mean, let's be honest. I mean they're professional athletes.
We give anything to be in their shoes. But like
that's just you know what it was for that time
in Calgary, right. I know that not every players experience
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in every well, within every organization and throughout their career
is positive.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We got we gotta get Brandon Evans on the show. Okay,
the missing piece of the four Cup run who played
all of five minutes in the playoffs or something he did.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I don't even remember that.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, he was like an emergency emergency recall
when goa cha monitor a commodore and everybody's hurt. And
he played in the series against Detroit. Anyway, that's a
discussion for another day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All right, Well, thank you for joining Kyle and I
on this this special ledation episode. We're going to be
doing this throughout the summer so that we get out
the shows every single week and pleasant for a bunch
of fun to do these because it is different than
the daily routine that we usually do on the show.
And that's always fun talking about Flames history. As we
leave today, we mentioned earlier in the show Kyle did
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and Spotify. Flames fans, We're back again next week talking
Flames hockey. Have a good week, say you guys.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
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Rude and Kyle Lewis talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Obscure favorite Flames players over the years, the guys that
we liked but probably really had no business having them
be some of our favorites.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But a little different topic, a little bit of fun
Flames Dot Kyle, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Just standy, just standy yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I didn't know if you were going to respond there.
I thought you were like checking out on me.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
There, No, No, I've checked out on lots of things lately,
but no, this isn't one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh well, you know we've talked about this, about this
episode and about like guys that we've out is one
of the actually one of the first conversations I remember
us ha and is about some guys that it's like, yeah,
I really liked him, but not sure why because he
was never like a superstar or anything like that for
the Flames. But guys that we liked but probably weren't
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I don't know fan favorites or what. I guess how
maybe they were. I don't know. Maybe other people like
the same guys we did, but some different different guys.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's kind of like cult classics when you talking about
movies and TV shows, right, Like, there's some there's some measures. Yeah,
there's some measures success there, but you know, nothing like
like I said, not superstars, and really, I mean, let's
be honest, the Flames haven't had a lot of superstars
in their history, so it should be pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But like music too, we could relate to that because
me and you always go back to music. That's one
of the things that honestly, quite honestly, if it wasn't
for music in like eighties rock, me and you probably
wouldn't talk.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I remember seeing your Twitter handle and it said blames
fan and something about rock music, and you listened to
a couple of the same stuff, and I'm like, oh man,
And so then I ended up a messaging you and
one thing led to another. Right. So there's always bands
that I always thought, you know, we're like Jesus, nobody
really likes this band, but I sure like this band.
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And that's kind of how what we're doing here with
these players. Do you want to go first? I get
like five of them that really stuck out in my mind,
and I know you have some two, so let's kind
of just go back and forth and talk about the
guys that we think probably deserve a little more credit.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I and the first one that comes to mind
for me, and I've always had a sauce spot for
fast players in particular, but Dean mcammond. So, Dean mcammond
is the lesser known piece of the MCI line with
again on on Conroy and when again La scored his
career high fifty two goals ninety six points and Conray
had seventy five points that year, if I'm not mistaken, now,
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Mcammon's really interesting because he was a really effective piece
on that line, But he also is known for being
traded away and traded back in the same season, but
due to the CBA rules at the time, was not
eligible to play when he was reacquired by the Flames,
and that would have been in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three to finish the seasons. That was
a really, really weird rule. So he actually came back
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the following season with Calgaren had a pretty decent season
but didn't play in the playoffs due to injuries. So
he was on the roster for the two thousand and
four Stanley Cup run, but was not playing, which a
lot of people I think tend to forget.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I did not even I did not even know that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And actually I saw one of his game war in
Jersey's on eBay not long ago, and it was or
maybe it was on Facebook. I can't remember. Anyway, very
tempting to try and pick that one up, but I
don't need any more. In fact, they may end up
selling a few because I just got too many. But
he he was a really really underrated piece for Calgary
and a very underrated NHL overall. So he's my He's
my first draft choice for you know, favorite flames that
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people didn't necessarily think a whole lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's an interesting one. I honestly I didn't even remember him.
I just punched him up now on as we were talking,
and I didn't. He played seventeen years of the National
Hockey League.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And yeah, played with Philly, He played with I think Colorado,
he got he played for Ottawa and Ottawa in the
preseason is where he got absolutely leveled by Steve Downey
with an absolutely brutal hit to the head.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Was that him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was awful off
for nine teams.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, wow, that many Philly.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The Islanders, Colorado, New Jersey. Single was Calgary for two years, Ottawa, Chicago,
and Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Now I remember Chicago and Edmonton. In Chicago, he was
a pretty good piece too. But really guys like him
and we talked about them quite often on the show
and in hockey in general, like when they can play
from your third line to your first line, to pinch made.
They're a good p the killers, good skaters, they're viable,
and yeah, I don't think I'm alone and thinking very
highly of him. So that's my first who you got?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know, I'm gonna throw in my first and it's
probably one that you're gonna you're probably gonna chuckle in.
There's a couple of reasons why I like this guy.
Number One, the first experience I had watching him live
irritated the hell out of me. I was up going
up to Winnipeg, and I believe it was in like
ninety five ninety six. What year did Winnipeg leave ninety six,
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so it'd have been yeah, the ninety five ninety six season. Okay,
So I'm going up to Winnipeg to watch the Flames play,
and I'm excited to watch Trevor kid. But guess who
I didn't get to watch Trevor. I kept to watch
Rick Taberacchi.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And nice.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He kind of turned into one of my little obscure
Flames favorites, and I remember watching him that game and
he ended up giving up a hat trick to Keith
Kachuk in the third period who's at the last second,
which irritated me, But it was fun to watch that game,
and he was going up against Nikolai Hobby Bullin, who
I still think is a top ten all time goalie
in this league. I know I could get a ton
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of arguments and be proven wrong on that, but I
always thought he was such a good goalie. But watching
Rick Taberacci as a Flame, he was kind of a
wild non he didn't really have what's the word I'm
looking for. He was really non typical goalie, kind of
a flopper, wild snaves, doing all kinds of wild stuff,
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but really like watching him. And then, ironically, like twenty
years later after his career, I'm at a flooring show
because Kyle and I have talked about her professions outside
of doing this, and I work in flooring and Kyle
works in building trades, and I'm at a Flooring National
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Flooring Show, and I have him meeting to me with
a client and they told me I had a new rep.
And the new rep walks over and introduces himself as
Rick Taberacci. I laughed and said, there can only be
one Rick Taberacci. And he smiles at me and he says,
do you like hockey? And I'm like, I know who
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you are, and I'll be more about of hockey than
we did what we were intending to meet about. But
interesting story there.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, we actually a bunch of us on on acts
a few years ago, like crowdfund that a Rick Taberacci
jersey for Johnny Stope and we sent it to him
because he was such a Taberacchi fan and that was
a kind of a really cool thing. And it really
speaks to why we're doing the show, because there's a
lot of people that, you know, think really highly of
players that didn't necessarily have any huge impact. And I
actually remember your Rick Tabati story. So do you saw
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have any contact with him?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I don't. He does not. He no longer works for
that company, and I really honestly don't know where he
went because his wife actually worked for the company too,
So I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, it wasn't one of my main companies that I
dealt with, let's put it that way. But yeah, irregardless,
it was a contact. I mean, it was an unplanned
contact but ended up being a kind of funny story.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And actually, since we're since for
on the topic of goaltenders, I'll go with my next one.
Because we could talk about this forever and ever, and
we're going to try to keep this reasonably brief. I'm
gonna go with Roman Turk and there's a few reads.
And again, I've always got reasons for this. The biggest
reason I was such a big Roman Turk fan was
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that same O one O two season that I talked
about it. Keep in mind the way the Flames started
that season. I think there were fourteen three and three
started the season with back to back shutouts. He was
a shiny new toy acquired from Saint Louis after a
bit of a you know, face plant in the playoffs
the previous spring, rattled off two straight shutouts and the
team I remember being in high school and the team
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was all of a sudden, like really really good and
it didn't last. They later fell apart. It was a
great Gilbert thing and Mark Savar being dealt and blah
blah blah. But Turk was the first time like, oh
my god, my team's actually gonna be good. And a
couple of years later, as many Flames fans will hopefully remember,
and if not, I'm happy to remind you, Roman Turik
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actually restructured his contract. It took a pay cut to
remain with the Flames, which is such a rarity and
really speaks to just how much he wanted to be
part of winning team. And he was a great backup
to Mickey Kipersoft in that one season two he really was.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't even know if you can do that with
a contract anymore, can you? I don't believe you can.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'm not sure. I mean, it would have to be
a mutual agreement of some kind, which would likely, you know,
lead to a mutual termination of some kind. But and
I mean he was a big, big dude, huge Iron
Maiden fan. Of course, I had Ddie on his helmet,
which I was thought was cool. But yeah, for a
very brief period in his career, he made the Flames
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relevant until the way he started to fall off. The
team just wasn't that good. But that started that season.
I remember they beat Chicago one of the first two games,
and I want to say Edmonton, but Chicago for short
was like, Wow, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Do you remember those McFarlane figures that they used to have. Yep,
I believe they may still make them. You don't see
him anymore. I have a Roman Turbot Roman Turk one.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I remember getting the blasty one of the white jersey one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, I had the white jersey one. I had the white.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Nice because it was one of those two of him,
which is pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. So who else
you got? I got a shot. We're doing five each,
by the way, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we're not going to keep you here all day.
So Eric Neistram, I got a guy that I think
this organization had much higher hopes for myself included his
highest point year was in nine nine ten he had
only nineteen points. But I always always seemed like to
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me that Eric neserm was hard worker, like always always
working hard, always seemed to have the right attitude and
played on some teams that were really in a really
down time for the Flames. And it was back when
we were drafting a lot of prospects in hopes of
turning the fate of this team around, and he was
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just one that just didn't seem to click. But I
always really liked him playing. I remember getting an autograph
stick from him, and just a really good, good guy
and kind of one of those obscure guys that I
always cheered for.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, and he was was it three? He was drafted,
believe so so. I actually I think he may have
known this one point, I had a really banged up
red Nystrom game war and jersey, and yeah I did.
I eventually sold it to a guy in Florida. I
don't know where it is now, and I wouldn't mind
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reacquiring it because I later found out he actually wore
that in the first Flames game I ever attended against
Columbus in February of two thousand and nine. Really it's
the same exact same jersey, like a one of one
that he wore that night and had some awesome repairs, which,
as we've talked about, makes game wars, you know, even
more viable because they're stitched up and they have all
these different markets. But that was a beautiful jersey. I
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could find this the guy who sold it to but
he might have sold it since I don't know, but
it was it was a nice one.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
He He was actually an O two pick by Calgary,
tenth overall. Tenth overall pick though, so we had Remember,
there's just a lot of talk and a lot of
high hopes for him, and obviously he didn't meet those
high hopes. But all in all I thought was was
it was. It was a good piece of the organization.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It isn't that interesting too, because he didn't debut until
I want to say six, so seven, perhaps five six.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He had two games, but didn't really step in as
a normal flame until really, honestly, in the seven O
eighty he had forty four games, eight oh nine he
played seventy six, and then the following year eighty two before.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But how many how often now do you see a
guy that's the first round pick take four years to
make his NHL debut three.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Or four hours. We don't, We don't wait that. We
don't have patients anymore at all. We want instant gratification.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh, it's a nice Boos and Tuna reference. Well done.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I didn't even think of that. We use them on
the on the intro out to this show.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, happy little accident right there. Oh,
what's another fight? And I'm doing this off the cuff.
I thought a little bit about it, but I really
wanted to, like, you know, just try to trigger.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Smaries of how we do this.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, Dave Lowery, I Yeah, I love Dave, Dave Lowery,
I've met him. Wonderful guy, hilarious guy, in fact, very
self deprecating. I told him that I had one of
his game waring jerseys and he said, well, sure's Allen,
Sure as hell isn't hanging from the rafters. And I
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started laughing as so, well, I wasn't the only bidder,
he said, yeah, the other one was probably my mother.
So and actually Dave Lowry billeted with the buddy Mine's
parents years and years ago, which is which is pretty cool,
But there was And I tried to find this and
I might have to reach out to somebody at the
CBC to see if they can find this clip. But
when he signed in Calgary, when he left San Jose
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after the ninety nine two thousand season, they did a
really cool feature on what it meant for Lowry to
come to Calgary. He became the captain. He brought his
family with him, which of course included Jets captain now
Adam Lowry. It was just a really wholesome feature about
like what a good guy he was. He had that
ninety six cup on with Florida. He's part of the
four run of the Flames, like he had a He
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was a very valuable piece. And I remember when him
and Doug Gilmore collided in the four season and they're
both injured for a while, and Lowry got into a
few games I want to say, maybe ten games or
so on that playoff run, but he left it all
on the ice all the time. I'm still pissed about
the way Greg Kilbert stripped in his captain sey because
I thought he was a good captain, but he just
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he was such a character guy, such a character guy.
And actually I saw one of his captains game wore
on jerseys not long ago and it went for I
don't like five grand or six grand or something, and
it was just yeah, yeah, so much money.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah. You can tell a lot about his character too
by by watching his son now Adam, captain of the
Winnipig Jets. You know that stuff. How do you say
that that's that's bred in the family by their work
ethic and their attitude and their leadership qualities. And he
passed that down to his son and and and makes
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Adam Lowery one of the key guys that if you said, Brad,
I want you to go build an NHL team tomorrow,
Adam Lowery would be near the top of my list
of guys I would add to my roster.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh, look at the goalie scored in Game seven. You know,
get that series against the Blues this year. Now. The
other thing too, that's worth mentioning here is that I
would like say Lowry is just so highly thought of,
as you know, as a character guy. But he's coached
in Calgary with the Hitman the Flames, he's coached with
the Jets, he's coached with Seattle. He's carved out a
pretty nice coaching career for himself too. He's a sought
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after guy, so good for him.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Definitely the next guy list played three seasons with the
Calgary Flames. I did get to meet him one time
on a on another Winnipeg trip. That's Steve's chase on
And the reason I have him on the list is
I love the style that he played defensively. Just he
was one of those guys that you could always you
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never you never swore at the TV.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He just he was safe, right, He made smart plays,
safe plays. Wasn't you know the big point getter. I
believe his highest points total in Calgary was like thirty something.
He just went out there and was a stable, stable
defenseman who made smart plays. Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Absolutely. And he was part of the Mike Vernon trade,
wasn't he he was? Yeah, that's right, big piece coming back.
That's that's a very significant trade in Flames history. So
that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, Yeah, sadly his life was was cut short, that's right.
But another another player that was kind of flew under
the radar of Flame you know, favorite Flames, but was
what was one of mine?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, absolutely, and with good reason. Really really good character
player and a good guy. And I remember when that
news broke that he passed, and it's so sad do
you think about like that, like, you know, his passing,
Brad mccrinan m crimin obviously Steve Monitor, and then you
know so many others around the league, Serget Bears and Roman,
Chuck Manic Ramory, like the Wade Black Derek Bugard. I mean,
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it's it's really amazing how quickly the years go and
and you know, you think about all those memories you
have with some of these guys, and it's so sad
to think that a lot of them are no longer
with us. Hmmm. So another and I went back and
forth on defenseman a bit too, on a few different
guys that I liked, and uh, one of them that
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I landed on because he was a really pivotal part
of when the Flames finally became good when he chose
to sign here, uh just after during the lockout or
just after I believe, was Roman ham So Hammerlock had
a hell of a shot and he was chiefly responsible
for bringing along Dean fuin Off as a rookie as
his deep partner. And hammer Look had been a very
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sought after defenseman for a number of years, had a
lot of success in Tampa Bay, for example, he was
with the Islanders. Had an absolute rocket of a shot
and was a very steady presence I felt, and was
just I remember like him, Tony A. Monte, Darren McCarty,
who I'll be playing hockey within a few weeks. Like
those guys, they really signaled a change with the new
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the new CBA and the lockout ending. It's like, okay,
all of a sudden, the Flames zoilers. These teams can
get good players, and hammer lock was was one of
those pieces, and he came along at the perfect time.
We really needed a guy like that. He was only
here for two seasons, but they were two really effective seasons,
and he kind of started a trend of like went
from Hammerlick to Adrian o'coyn yes, and we had these
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guys and o Coin I'm gonna go on to mention
here too, just because these guys like they were really
really important and they were a big part of Flames
teams that really underachieved in the two thousands, the you know,
the mid to late two thousands. But Hammertck was a
personal favorite of mine.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
After Hammer, like you said, went on to a Coin
and who else did? We went on to another big
defenseman there that I believe we lost to. I guess
why am I drawing a blank?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We lost to Vegas. That'd have been Derek England. There
you go, Derek Englin, and we had.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
They all kind of fit that mold though, you know
what I'm talking about well.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And it was a weird time too, because, like Ratt
Warner started to have some injury troubles and he kind
of faded into a security By two thousand and nine,
Corey Serich was a big piece, you know, there was
there was a run of There was a real run
of actually have one of Sarah's game more in Jersey's
h There was a run off. Yeah, and they were.
There are a couple of menure pieces to the Robin
Riguiers of Dion Fineps, the jay Bowmeisters of the world.
(19:47):
Jim Vandermere, you know, was a big part of that
series against San Jose in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is that the series?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, yeah, nine.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
That's when Ronic scored We lost in game seven. That
was a tough, tough series. That's one where Sarah's destroyed Marlow.
That was fun. That was really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What year was it though, Was it like ninety eight
when we were up three games to none on San
Jose and ended up losing three or four straight in
overtime to lose the series.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, it's rough, man, those those were well, that would
have been well, yeah, it would have been. They didn't
make the playoffs in ninety eight. Ninety six against Chicago
was the last appearance prior to four because I remember
those eight year gap, but it might have been ninety five.
I think that that. Yeah, anyway, there's we don't want
to get into playof Failures. That's a whole other special episode.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Another episode we are going to do possibly this summer.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My next guy was a guy that when I think
of Calgary Flames who were like Pierre Snipers, I put
him in this list. You might argue with me a
little bit on this one, but I was Christian Husalias.
I loved watching Christian Husalias play. Yeah. Yeah, he was
just so skilled offensively was it the most physical presence
(21:02):
out there? But his six seven year when he had
thirty four goals seventy seven points, yeap on real, what
a year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Well, And he was acquired for Steve Monitor from Florida
and one of the rare times where I think Darryl
Sutter really clearly recognized his team seriously lacks skill and
Usailias brought that in spades. He was one of the
most skilled Flames players to ever play there. And he
had a big season in Columbus after that too. I
remember actually he did.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He had a sixty three point season in Columbus too. Yeah,
you know, my very first time I ever went to
the saddle Dome, I bought a Christian Hussaleus jersey.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh nice, nice number, that was what I bought.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He he had later had some legal trouble, I remember, uh,
And he had he suffered some really really serious birds. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I see him on once in a while.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, but yeah, he liked he liked to be in
my tweets at one point a few years ago. I remember.
Actually that's I kind of forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
An interesting player though, But you're right, just super super
skilled offensively, and I just when he got the puck
in the slot, it was like, oh he's gonna bury
this for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
He Yeah, he had like the real puck on a
strength thing going for him. Like when he had the puck,
like he could keep away with it really really effectively.
And yeah, no, he was. He was a very very
effective Flames player for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
All Right, I got the final one.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, this is tough because I've gone back and forth
on so many and like the names run through your head.
And not an obscure player by any stretch, but a
very obscure flame and it drives me nuts. Some of
people don't even realize he played in Calgary's Marxi Bard.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh, why did I know you were gonna go? Yeah's
play power played deficiencies, Yeah, card.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, he war Ober twenty seven in Calgary was true
for Roslyn Zanelin. He never played in Calgary, but he
had a sixty five point season with the Flames. I remember,
and it was like he had that spat with Greg
Gilbert that I lived too earlier, and he got traded.
And I will forever contend that it is one of
the top three worst Flames trades of all time because
(23:18):
even if we talked about the Gilmore trade, at least
with Gilmore, they got stuff, they got things, they got people.
They got absolutely nothing from Marcus Varden. I'm pretty suref
you go on the Flames website, Zanalin is still technically
Flames property twenty five years later.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Nice Segakle, we are doing this episode here in the
coming weeks. Also, is trades that significant trades in Flames history?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah yeah, And I mean he like he mesh well
with again law. He was super skilled. He went on
to have monster seasons in Atlanta and Boston before obviously
his careers got shor up by injury, so sadly he
was it was required from the New York Rangers. Was
an absolute gem, I think. I think one of the
pieces of Back to New York was Jon Halavich, who
(24:03):
played with Peter Nedven orrad Ati Worrack on that infamous
check line in the other two thousands. So ah, man,
my brain is swimming, all right, hit me, what do
you got for your last one?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Last one is the speedster that had really, honestly one
good year and it was the year that he goes
on the four Cup run. And that's Sean Donovan. I
he was. He had eighteen goals, twenty four assist forty
two points that year. But man, I like watching this
(24:34):
guy play.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, I did too fast, fast, fast, huge part of
the over a Cup run.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know what I mean. I sit and I look
at that roster. I was thinking about this actually earlier today,
that four roster, and how I was thinking about the
current day roster, and I was thinking about, well, he
can't play on a championship team, you know. I was
just looking at our current players and I'm like picking
out guys and I'm like he can't play in a
championship team. And then I sit in and think about
the four roster and I look at guy. It's like
we talked about earlier in this episode, Lowry, what an
(25:02):
impact he was on that in a small more or
lesser role, and you had guys like Chuck Kobasu in
a lesser role, a guy like Sean Donovan in a
lesser role. I mean, let's be serious. Shan Donovan was
minus ninety in his career. This guy is still one
of my favorites because of what he did for a
playoff run. Yeah, that's it. This guy played for seven
(25:25):
teams in his career. But watching his speed and watching
what he brought to the team an aspect of what
it took to get this team. You know of a
bunch of guys that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
There a lot of stars, No, very, very very for him,
Billy Neemanan, Chris Clark, Oleague, Soprankan. Now here's a fun
one for me. And don't give me any because I
gotta think about this, but I want you said seven
teams that Donovan played for. Yeah, okay, so Calgary, Atlanta, Yeah, Ottawa. Uh,
(25:59):
this is whatere. It's tough. Let me think, now, well,
this is like it's really tough.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh yeah, I started hot, man, I cooled off quick.
I thought I was hot and ready for that one.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Hello. And I do this all the time too. I
think I know he played for Boston. He did play
one year in Boston. Yes, so you're four of them
so far, all right?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Uh uh?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All the ones that you're missing are pre Calgary ones?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Oh? Really? Was? It was Atlanta after Calgary.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Atlanta was before Calgary. Okay, okay, he's got three ones
before Calgary. I agree with the fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You played for San Jose. He did, man, I'm five
for seven.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh. And then he went from San Jose to where.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So somewhere between San josean and Atlanta? Yes, oh shit,
I don't know, man, it wasn't enough. I didn't know
that actually, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And then he went to Atlanta for two no excuse me,
three in Atlanta, and then he went somewhere for two
years right before Calgary Eastern Conference team. I never knew this. Philly,
Pittsburgh didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh you know what? No, that does sound that does
sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Wow? And I was waiting for you to bring up
because I know how much you were a fan of his,
and I'm still looking for a game more Jersey his
for you.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I know I would like that, I really would he
I really liked watching him play, you don't. You know
what's funny though, Like the guy did not score very much.
But I went up to Calgary.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
In forty two points on eighteen goals in O three
oh four? Am I right?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, do you know that? That's scary? But well
five or six I went up to Calgary to watch
them play two games, one against Colorado, one against Detroit.
In the Colorado game they beat him six two and
Sean Donovan had two goals. He only had nine all year.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Oh wow, that you went to the right game then
if you're Sean Donovan fan. Wow huh. Well, you know what,
we'll have to do an episode about like flames and
I think we talked with this actually doing you know,
flames that drove us nuts. They were more you know,
and right away I've got like fifteen so that could
be a three hour episode. But anyway, I better make.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
A note here that's what we got to do next.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Oh man, I hope none of those guys are listeners.
I can imagine, but you never know, you.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Know what, they probably would want to join the show.
I mean it because I mean, once your career is done,
and I mean, let's be honest. I mean they're professional athletes.
We give anything to be in their shoes. But like
that's just you know what it was for that time
in Calgary, right. I know that not every players experience
(29:01):
in every well, within every organization and throughout their career
is positive.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We got we gotta get Brandon Evans on the show. Okay,
the missing piece of the four Cup run who played
all of five minutes in the playoffs or something he did.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I don't even remember that.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, he was like an emergency emergency recall
when goa cha monitor a commodore and everybody's hurt. And
he played in the series against Detroit. Anyway, that's a
discussion for another day.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All right, Well, thank you for joining Kyle and I
on this this special ledation episode. We're going to be
doing this throughout the summer so that we get out
the shows every single week and pleasant for a bunch
of fun to do these because it is different than
the daily routine that we usually do on the show.
And that's always fun talking about Flames history. As we
leave today, we mentioned earlier in the show Kyle did
(29:54):
booz and Tuna a good band. Check them out Apple
and Spotify. Flames fans, We're back again next week talking
Flames hockey. Have a good week, say you guys.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Different balasum down CADASA.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
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