July 20, 2025 • 43 mins
The Evolution of the Flames Jersey – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 252
Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
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Join hosts Brad Burud and Kyle Lewis on this special off-season episode of Flames Unfiltered as they delve into the evolution of Calgary Flames jerseys. Explore the team's rich history, highlighting iconic designs, memorable moments, and fan-favorite jerseys. The hosts share personal insights, debates, and the potential future of Flames' uniforms under Fanatics. Whether you're a traditionalist or a fan of modern designs, this episode offers a deep dive into how jerseys symbolize the team's legacy and evoke vivid memories for Flames fans. Tune in for a stroll through Flames fashion history.
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Hosts- Brad Burud @BradBurud and Kyle Lewis @vanlewis14
--- EPISODE 252 ---
SPECIAL EPISODE
Join hosts Brad Burud and Kyle Lewis on this special off-season episode of Flames Unfiltered as they delve into the evolution of Calgary Flames jerseys. Explore the team's rich history, highlighting iconic designs, memorable moments, and fan-favorite jerseys. The hosts share personal insights, debates, and the potential future of Flames' uniforms under Fanatics. Whether you're a traditionalist or a fan of modern designs, this episode offers a deep dive into how jerseys symbolize the team's legacy and evoke vivid memories for Flames fans. Tune in for a stroll through Flames fashion history.
Website: Flames Unfiltered
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts
Watch: YouTUBE
Social Media – X - @FlameUnfiltered |FACEBOOK – Flames Unfiltered |INSTAGRAM – Flames Unfiltered | TikTok – flames.unfiltered
NHL #HockeyX #TalkinHockey #HockeyPodcast #Flames #cofred #nhlflames #calgaryflames #YYC #FireItUp
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Any Flame fans. It's time for another edition of Flames Unfiltered.
Diane brad Rude one of the hosts. Kyle lewis the
other host, and today it's a off season special episode
and we're going to kind of run through the evolution
of the Flames jersey. There hasn't been a ton of
variations compared to some franchise, but you'd be surprised how
(00:45):
many times this team has switched. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Absolutely, And it's funny, like when you think about those
different eras and how long some jerseys lasted, maybe how
long they should have lasted. This is one that I've
been looking forward to doing for a while because there's
so many different memories associated with all the different jerseys
we've had, right.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean there's been some good and then when
we get into some of the special heritage ones, there's
been some not so good. And I think our opinions
actually in some of the jerseys may differ, which is
part of the fun of doing this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh wait, and we know that they do. We've talked
about this step before, but I don't know that we've
often got into the intricacies of those differences. So this
should be uh, this should be really interesting, and I'm
sure everybody out there has Obviously they have their favorites
and ones I like more than others, and ones that
they just love that others hate, which is perhaps the
most interesting than inic of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right, Yeah, and like I'm such a traditionalist, so
you guys all know that that listened to the show.
So I'm going to like more of the traditional ones
and we'll see where it goes. Because there's a couple
of the heritage ones that I was a pretty big
fan of too, and a couple I really hated too.
So and then I can't wait to get the talk
(01:56):
on the pedestal jersey and just the transformation of all
the jerseys. So we'll get into it right away. If
you're listening, we'll try to describe the jerseys as best
we can. We're kind of cruise through because it is
a off season edition and we don't want to keep
you too long on this episode. First off, I want
to thank NHL Uniform Database for the graphics. So if
(02:18):
you can watch this episode on YouTube Flames Unfiltered, you'll
find it. It's easy because we're going to be putting
up the graphics as we can hopefully that goes as
smooth as possible in the production part of it. So
we'll get right into it. We aren't going to talk
about the Atlanta Flames jerseys. Just we'll talk about it
once once we got to Calgary, right and we'll roll
(02:38):
into it. Eighty eighty one. The traditional jersey slight variation
to where we're at today, but not a lot. And
I don't know, I love this jersey. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean at the time, as things were with pretty
much every team, like the logos kind of small. You
think about the old black Hawks jerseys for example, like
like the same kind of thing the Habs jersey, remember,
like just the emblem was just no, it just it
never felt bombastic in your face. It was a very
small logo relative what we have today.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I, you know, I didn't even It's funny you
bring that up right away off the out of the gate.
I didn't notice that so much when I when I
pulled these graphics and I and when I think back
to that jersey, but I think back to the very
first jersey that I got in, and the logo is smaller.
It is noticeably smaller comparatively speaking to what we're getting today.
And I absolutely kind of the sign of the times.
(03:34):
That jersey was from eighty eighty one and then we
rolled on into a jersey from eighty one to ninety four. Really,
I do an unnoticeable change from the first year's jersey.
I think there was just some slight striping changes. The
(03:55):
colors was really all it. And this this is the
jersey and one I think, you know, I think one
of some of the older Flames fans, well, I was
just this jersey is the one we won the cup in, right,
So how do you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Not.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, look at the memories of that jersey and
the heritage of that jersey and the photos we still
look at to this day of that jersey, and that's
kind of what symbolizes it in my mind.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, and that's that's it. I mean, this even the
cup is you know, the biggest piece of it. But
I mean those teams in general during this era were
very successful. By the time that they retired it in
ninety four, they had moved on to a completely different design,
but also traded away virtually every single piece of their
Stanley Cup. You know, heyday, right, you know, excluding the
(04:48):
fair and fliterate At the time, like so you can can't,
and that that's kind of what ushered the Young Guns era.
But I mean, ultimately, this jersey, no matter what anybody says,
will always be the one most synonymous with the success
the Flames had at that time. Even though it's like
Jersey one in Jersey two and it's current variation that
we'll get to, it's people still call it like vintage
or retro or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right, yeah, yeah, it would. Yeah, it is the vintage retro.
And as we as we transition down to that ninety
five to ninety eight pedestal jersey, were you how old
were you when that change happened. I should probably know
(05:29):
that I was seven, okay, so that you don't remember
it being a big deal. I remember it being a huge,
huge deal. No, sure, yeah, I because let's as I
pulled it up, it was a drastic, drastic change, and
not only in the striping on the shoulders and in
(05:49):
the pedestal type, as is what it's no one's for today.
I'm striping on the bottom. But the big change to
me was the black helmet and the black pants.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah. Well, and we should there's a little bit of
a correction here too. These jerseys were worn until ninety
nine two thousand, so.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They were yes, And I'll pull that up right now
with the blast he introduced, y Yeah, ninety eight to
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, So maybe this might be the best graphic for
us to use to kind of go through it. So
to your point in terms of what a colossal change
it was, the pedestal jersey for me was like when
I really became a fan, which is when they were
pretty well they're absolute worst raight.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So to you, this jersey, I don't know, signifies the beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Like the real beginning. I always like that's more close
to what I associate theol Flury with because he was
like our early good player superstar really at that time.
Shouldn't say good player, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But I would agree that's what I when I think
of theol Flury, I think of him in this jersey,
or than I think of him in the retro, in
the retro the Cup winning jersey. I guess you could
you could, Yeah, you could say, I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Because because he was a piece of the puzzle. But
he wasn't you know, Al mckinnis, Mike Fern and Doug
gilmore important. And I mean he was hugely important to me. Wrong,
but when with these jerseys he was the face of
the franchise and and nobody was even close to his level.
And then the supplemental pieces around that, Derek Morris, Denny Gocier,
Valerie Beret, Mark Sivard, German Teetoff. Like, there's so many
(07:25):
players and from those years that I think of Michael
Neilander actually would be a good example.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's funny you bring up my
German tee Doff because he is he was a decent player.
I mean he really was and absolutely, yeah, I hear
that there was all but completely forgotten. Well I think
that well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And there's actually a great bit in Theo. Fleury's book
about German te Doff right talk about his time growing
up with the USSR and it is his military service.
The thing is is like what I want to point
out with this era of these jerseys and how they're
kind of associated away with mediocrity. It's like at the
time when these jerseys were in use, the Canadian dollars
and the toilet, the Jets relieving, the Nordics relieving, Yeah,
(08:08):
the Oilers and Flames and all these other teams Canadian
teams were doing like these drives for season tickets and
if we don't hit this target, we're gonna have to
sell the team. So they're kind of like doom and
glooming away. But they also represented like a major touring
port for the franchise, And it's unfortunate that these jerseys
kind of represent that really really difficult era economically end
(08:29):
on the ice for the Flames. But now I think
we look back a little bit more fondly because we realized, like,
at least that's how I look at it, like they
were able to get through that time period. And that's
more when I see these jerseys, as you know the
time period, were a lot of Nhler's Jays Shager for example,
martasan Luis. They wore this jersey and they became, you know,
cons my twinners or Hall of famers. Like it's not
(08:51):
all bad, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I mean I have I have a lot of
really good, really good, really good memories of these. I
do struggle a little bit though, to remember, like the
the blasting when that came out with your original blasting,
I struggled to remember a lot of that and that
and that was for what two years they wore that, Yeah,
(09:16):
ninety eight to two thousand. Do you remember their their origination,
the blasting and when it first came out.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I remember. I mean it changed quite a bit
rather quickly the first three years. Like they had the
like the like the the white letters for the assistant
captains and the captain, and they were stylized differently. Trying
to think, like I have like a memory of Theo
(09:44):
Fleury scoring his record breaking point in that jersey against
Animal I'm not mistaken, yeap, and then I that and
for some reason, even though they all wore the same,
these three jerseys, I think more of like Todd Simpson
in the Blasty jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Right, I know it is funny how that is.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean it keep in mind at the time too,
I mean for those who maybe aren't familiar with the
jersey history, like every team was doing drastically different things,
like the Boston Puber jersey, yea, the Fishtecks jersey and
on the Island as people call it. It was just
it was a really and now those jerseys are like
that's the reverse retro program is like rebranding these jerseys,
reintroducing them and now the Pedestal had one a few
(10:24):
years ago, which unfortunately have to own one of It's
not my favorite jersey, but it's a very cool piece
of history, and that's that's kind of the point here too.
We're not we're going to debate some of our favorites
and ones we don't like, but at the same time, like,
there's certain memories that are just associated with these jerseys
and represent cool pieces of time in the Flames history.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
This was also a time frame and an erarow where
every team it seemed like, was having something to do
with a black jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That was a night like the late nineties, right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I know everybody had a black jersey, Yeah, some
sort you know here or there, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And some came a little like I remember San Jose's
black jersey. Actually I hadn't thought about that one for
a long time, but yeah, like understated like and then also,
you know, shortly after this time, PRIs on the switch
back to Dark's at Home, right, So we should point
out this was the last, actually the second last jersey
(11:21):
jersey collection that was worn at home until it changed.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And and let's switch right into that change. And this
was a giant change it was a jersey set that
we wore from two thousand to two thousand and three,
and that is when the transition from white being the
home jersey to white being the road jersey. And it
was the initiation of uh were I mean we we
didn't even have a red jersey, but we wore that
(11:46):
black jersey, the Blast New jersey at home solely for
for those three years.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah. So we had the white yeah, the white jersey
at home. And then when they switched it like this
is yeah, this is like you said, it's only for years.
It was really a strange time. And this particular set
is like this is where I was like Jerome mcgillan
became a star, right two, Dave Lowry's captain for a time,
and Craig Conroy and Bob Budener shared the captaincy after that.
(12:17):
And then this is the era where it Againla became
captain two.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, and then and then in three to six, uh,
the Blast he moved to the third jersey. And then
this is what all of us as Flames fans remember,
as you know, the O four Cup run jerseys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, and these were co hosts and that's important too
to recognize the brands because there's been so many that
have had the jersey rights over the years. This is
when the league had gone from uh it was Pro Player,
then CCM, and then to the co host.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And it's funny that you say that too, because it
was CCM predominantly for decades.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think, right, well, pro players in there for a
couple of years. I have Pro Player game war on
to Jeff Cowen's and they're really really nice jersey. But
a very very brief period of time.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I forgot all about cole Player. I did now that, Yeah,
I just it kind of came back to me and I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like, hmmm, I don't know what happened to them. I'd
like to look into that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Actually, yeah, you remember when co hole I got it
and it was I don't know it did that? That
seemed different to me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I guess co Hoo because as a name and as
a brand, like as I pitched the logo, really exemplified
hockey to me at that time. It's probably just prior
to when Easton really took off because of like being
a marketing machine and a ton of players wearing the
gear and being sponsored by them. But coho like and
I've got a couple I think. Yeah, I have two
Coho blasties of Dave Lowry and Denny Goci. Actually they're
(13:47):
really really nice jerseys. Yeah. And the thing we should
point out here too, for those that don't remember, that
red jersey initially had black lettering for the name bar
and people were complaining they couldn't read the player names
on TV, so they changed it to a white name bar.
So if you actually look at the two and three
twousand and four season, you'll see in the first like
I don't know, five or ten games home games, those
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jerseys had.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Black I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I have photos of it here. I'll send you a couple.
They changed it relatively quickly. But yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Interesting, Hm, I don't, yeah, send me a picture. I
don't remember that at all.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's why it's fun to go through this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Right, Yeah, what did you think of the v stripe.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
For that era? I actually liked it. Those jerseys just
look like vague and impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I didn't hate it. I still kind of like
the pedestal jersey more than this jersey. But everybody that
knows me and listens to this show knows my feelings
on the Blasty. I wasn't a huge Blasty fan, so
that kind of I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I have a theory on that that I'm going to share,
but well it's not so much a theory as it
is kind of factual some people I've talked to. So
for guys like yourself a little bit older than myself,
like when you grow up with that vintage jersey, like
the iconic Flames, one of the one that exemplified our success,
and then you go to Blasty, which in the late
nineties was kind of it wasn't like it here, Yeah,
like it was. It was like it wasn't Here's a
(15:17):
cool I mean initially was yeah, third Jersey, but then
it kind of took over and the history was just
kind of completely pushed aside and represented such a crappy
era in terms of Flames on ice performance.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It was kind of like shoved down our throats. I
feel like for younger guys like me at that time,
like I was like a teenager, like I thought it
was the coolest jersey ever, which is why you know,
I have the Blasty hat and it's and it's funny
because like, yeah, some people they they like Noah Adler,
for example. It's just such a huge, huge, huge blasting
mark and good for him. But it's just interesting how
(15:50):
people love and hate certain jerseys differently. And I think
you've actually, if I correct me if I'm wrong, I
think you've warmed up a bit to blasting in the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I like the newer version, and we'll get to that
later on, but I do. I do like the newer
version a lot better than than.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The old cool interesting, interesting because my buddy actually likes
the old version better too, But I like them both.
I don't really know if I have a favorite.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think there was. It was something to do with
the red on the bottom of the strip being and
the old one I just wasn't a fan of that.
I like the newer one a lot better. But you know,
and I remember when they introduced the second blasty. And
maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I remember saying
something to you. I said, and and this goes back
to exactly what you just said about how and why
(16:29):
I probably don't like the original blasting because it's signified
losing to me, and and and the new blasting. I
remember when it came out. You were you were you
were kind of laughing, and I was kind of laughing about, like,
oh great, I gotta go through this again. And I
remember saying to you, well, I really don't care as
long as they wait, and if they went in this jersey,
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And actually, interestingly enough, at that time, when they reintroduced Blasty,
the Flames of like a montage video like announcing it,
and they included one of my tweets in it because
I'd said that the original Blast is the first Flames
jersey ever bought for myself. I remember I was working
at a cross country ski club as a cashier when
I was like twelve or thirteen, and I had the
jersey on layway at sports check, and I asked my
boss to pay me a date in advance so I
(17:11):
could go to sports check and pick it up when
I got home that day. My parents already bought it
and hug out my bedroom for me.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah. So and that's and that again where it's a
childhood memory of sorts, that's what makes this jersey like
meaningful to me. And now people like if there's Flames
fans that don't like the color red or they're not
into the traditional logo. They're not even a Flames fan.
They can gravitate more towards something different like the Bosty logo.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, and again this is really important before we go
any further. These jerseys, especially like this red Home, was
used for such a brief amount of time that I
don't feel it ever got the run that it should
have got.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Probably a fair yep, probably fair.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
From three to four to six o seven, which you
count the lockowed of course, yeah, three seasons for that
was in use.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Because we did switch coming out of the locko. We
went and were the Red at Home and then the
White on the Road with and then we minused the
Blasty at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, when they went to the they went to Reebok. Yes, yeah,
so the at Blast he was actually with these right
well in five o six. I know they were, because
I've had those jerseys. Six o seven, I can't remember
if Blast he was still around. If they dropped it
for a year.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They dropped it for a year, they dropped the well,
they dropped it for more than a year because.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But that was the year they dropped it. Then they
switched to RBK with the flags jerseys, right.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yep, yes, because then yeah, and seven, as I get it,
as I go ahead here in seven, we dropped the
V stripe and went to the side striping, stayed with
the black pants and the black helmet, and then had
the flags on the side, the Canadian and Alberta flag. Yeah.
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And then of course Blasty disappeared, I guess in the
previous season the six oh seven seas.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yes, and now these jerseys, this is like the I
don't know how to explain that, but it's like I
had a lot of hope with SoC these because this
is like when you know, we still had Dion Fanough,
we acquired Ole Yok and Mike Camillary had one of
the best seasons any Flames had in these jerseys. And
(19:22):
if I remember on.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
A hand's emergence in these jerseys, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, and that and that's the interesting part about these
ones is that they they encompassed two eras. Now they
had we should mention two of the low like the
RBK logo, which because that's what they recalled them, like
this rebrock. They dropped the RBK and the logo and
just went to straight rebock on them. In the last
few years that they had the league license, yes, but
(19:47):
these jerseys represent the end of the kippersoft again la
era and a couple a couple of years of absolute
misery where Joey McDonald was our best goaltending option. In
no disrespect to Joey, I mean he was an every
gonna have little position. He's actually from nearby Piccto County.
But and then we transitioned into you know, Johnny Gudreaux,
Sean Monahan and the kind of the turning point of
(20:08):
the franchise, right.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, yep, it was. It was a big turning point. Yeah,
And I'm I'm not gonna lie. I did not mind
this jersey.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I remember, like, I like this more than the one
that came after, even though it was very similar. And
I think Mike Gould actually pointed out at one point
that the one that came after this was just a
much tighter design. The lines made more sense, it was cleaner,
it was kind of crisper, and I never saw it
that way because I really like these, and maybe it's
just because of I should also mention actually they wore
these red jerseys the first two times I saw them
play alive, in two thousand and nine against Columbus and Minnesota, sure,
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and then they were still wearing them when I was
there for the playoffs in twenty fifteen, when you know
a Game three when in the round two against the
Ducks when we went overtime. So those memories obviously and
flu it's how I feel about them.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And then there was some transitions in nine where we
went to have seen the retro I guess is really
what we call this because this takes us back to
that that eighty nine era, and we wore that at home,
he in and out, and then even transfer trans we
(21:15):
actually removed that retro jersey and had two different third
jerseys with the Calgary script jersey that many people, I
guess you'd say love or hate this jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I had a TJ. Brody game warn script jersey and
I sold it, and I still kind of regret it
because it was just a cool piece to own. I
don't have a lot of fond memories of the team
were in that jersey. Actually, I remember really well when
they had like Curtis Glencross and Mike Camillary and those
guys like modeling the jersey. Yeah yeah, yep, And I
(21:50):
have for some reason, I remember that photo very vividly.
But when it was when it was dropped, I just
remember thinking, I have no idea what this jersey's like,
he's going to be if we'll ever see any variation.
I actually had a golf shirt that had that Calgary
logo on it, and it looks really cool, but as
the primary logo on a jersey, eh, I.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I can't say that I hated it, but to me,
it definitely it definitely screamed third Jersey. Oh yeah, you
know what I mean? Oh yeah, it totally to me,
just screamed. It just screamed third Jersey.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, not a not yeah, not not something that had
any staying power and like and the shoulder patch logo
on it too, like the Rocky Mountain patch is actually
kind of cool, but yeah, it was. What was that retired?
Was it after fourteen fifteen? I think I know they
I know they weren't in fourteen fifteen. Actually, I think
(22:53):
fifteen sixteen might have been the last year for it.
I have some memory of Lance Boma wearing that that
tells me that might have been the last year it
was worn.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
In twenty twenty one, which cheese doesn't seem like that
long ago, right, right, we went full we went to
switch it over here, we went to the full retro
for the twenty For the cod COVID year, we wore
the reds is the the red retro was the primary
(23:20):
and the black stripe side stripe was the secondary. And
then in twenty one twenty two we went simplified and
just went full retro. Home.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think I have two comments on that, because you
just said it and it didn't really catch it, But
now you reminded me when the red jersey with the
black sea was their one of the third jerseys.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
For that was so just that COVID yearly sird.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
It was so awkward because they rotated what was a
primary jersey to being an alternate jersey. And the only
reason I can think it was still in circulation. The
only reason I think that's the case is that that's
when Ken King, who was a huge proponent of the
flags jerseys, that's when his health was starting to fail,
and I think they kept it as a tribute to him.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
That's my theory.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, well, he was he was kind of at the
head of that, uh you know, pursuing that design and
including Alberta Canadian flags, Okay, and I don't maybe I
heard that somewhere. I don't want to sit here and
say that that was the absolute reason because I can't remember,
but it seems to me in the timeline as well,
that that's why that jersey hung on for an extra
year in a very odd way, you know, because it
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probably should have been retired by them. But that's why
they kept the thinking because Ken King was was still
around in the last years of his life.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Okay, I did not know that. Were you when we
in twenty one when we went full retro? Were you?
Were you? As? Were you pumped about that? Because I
was off the charts. I just I was so happy.
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I back to Mike, Like you said, it goes back
to when I remembered them winning. Right, That's all this
comes back to, Right, It comes back to our memories,
our memories of good times.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, yeah, for sure. I mean I was definitely in
favor of what I like that for like for old
school fans, and they brought it back, just the two
of them. But I won't why. I was absolutely clamoring, like, okay,
they nailed part of the jersey equation. These should be
our primary jerseys, but I wanted to see something from
the era that I loved, you know, added to that,
and that's eventually what we got. So but yeah, I
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mean the moved back to the to the proper original
flames jerseys in the newest design was an absolute no brainer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
In twenty twenty two to present, the jerseys were watching
in current day here now was the introduction of Blast.
You what you want to call it? Two point zero?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, and actually this is kind of a three point
oh because prior to this one was the exact same
jersey without the flames and the sleeves. Yes, so I have,
for example, a lot of jersey Michael Stones which does
not have flames on the on the cuffs, and then
I have a dental mirror mount off one from a
season later or two seasons later, where the flames are there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So are you speaking of the twenty twenty one reverse retro?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Then no, I mean Blasty Okay, So so like, okay,
let me rephrase that.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So twenty one the Blast was a reverse retro.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yes, that's right, So it was a verse retro one
point oh that yeah, that one which Gudrod, Moore and
Monahan obviously, as you can see here. So that same
jersey just had the flames added to the cuffs. That
was the only and it's kind of a it's a
very subtle addition, but it is kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, yep, I did not notice that. Yeah, I'm interested
to see now before we move on into special jerseys.
I'm interested to see what really happens though with the Blasty.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
To be honest with you, I've been buying a lot
of Blasting year the last twoyears because scared they're going
to take it away from me again. So I don't
think that they will, because when it came back, it
was a huge comeback. A lot of people do love it.
And some people still say to me if I'm wearing
this hat or a golf shirt with the logo, like, oh,
what's that? I'm like, it's the flames alternate logo, Like
oh really, Like they don't even know that it is, right.
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I just think right now it's in its proper place
as an alternate jersey, one that gets Wren you know,
eight to fifteen times a season, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I yes, And I'm fine with it being an alternate jersey.
One thing that does frustrate me is like when we're
having an epic battle like a Battle of Alberta or
or a Canucks Flames please don't wear the Blasty has
nothing to do with the Battle of Alberta, right, we
got to wear our normal jerseys on those nights.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I played a game and I don't know NHL whatever
year it was twenty three or twenty four probably where
I was playing against the Canucks and I had the
skate jerseys on the Canucks and Blasty on the Flames,
and I couldn't tell the teams apart, and it was
just a disaster.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's the same jersey.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's ridiculous, Like the color scheme is very identical, so
I know what you mean too, like those classic games.
And I remember like there was one game and I
think what it was. The Flames were wearing their the
white jerseys pictured here, and the Oilers were wearing like
like the what do they call it, like the Neon
Oilers jersey. Yeah, it looked like it looked like the
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Flames are playing like a cyborg version of their oldest
rival from the future.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Like it was just dumb. Yes, I you know, these
are jerseys you wear when you're playing Carolina or Dallas
or something.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, or another conference opponent that's not you know, in
your division. There's no history, like, no big rivalry, right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So yeah, where when we play the Sharks?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like okay, yeah, who cares?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, who cares. Let's go on to some special jerseys.
In oh nine to ten, they pulled out the thirtieth
anniversary and this was kind of our first look at
the reverse retro and this kind of I think, uh,
this is what I think got the wheels turning for
the reintroduction of the retro. I don't know. I just
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remember this, and I believe they only wore it one game.
I believe. I believe it was only worn on one game,
but I think it was five was it? Was it five?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I think it was five games. I returned for some reason.
I don't know why I spent the money on this,
but I have. That's the Toscola's jersey with this exact one,
and it's super cool, way too much. Yeah, i'll send
you pictures of it. I don't know why I bought it.
The Tosco and name bar is really cool, but yeah,
it's just it's a neat It's a neat piece. Even
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it was only here for a handful of games. But yeah,
this definitely started the everybody started clamoring to have this
jersey back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right. Do you remember when the Heritage Classic was announced
first in twenty eleven and it was going to be exciting, right,
it was going to be exciting, and they announced that
they were going to have this new jersey, and oh man,
I was just pumped. I couldn't I couldn't wait to
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see what. You know, there's the sky's e limit for
cool designs you can come up with for a one
game jersey, right, and then we get this the Ronald McDonald,
The Ronald McDonald.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, and you can't even tell this picture how actually
how beige those pants are?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
They're brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Tell us how you really feel?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
This is the worst that Okay, do you remember a
few years ago when this Colorida Avalanche played in the
Stadium Series game? It looked like some gramma knitted a
sweater for him. It was brutal. It was the worst.
This jersey is right there with that jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Do you know how many Stadium Series jerseys? I don't
remember because I'm just so sick of there always being
a Stadium Series, Like, I don't I.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Don't even yeah, excited to watch stadium series games. I
don't not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I I don't remember the lost when I watched it
was a Flames game I have I've like channel served
and it could have tuned in for a minute. But
if you showed me like a Bruins stadium series jersey,
I couldn't tell you what year it's from. I could
probably guess.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But no, And there's been some good stadium series jerseys,
there has. Yeah, it just seems like there's more bad
than good.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Well, and we won this game for nothing against the
Canadians in a good game.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I remember Mika Kippersoft in that jersey clearly, I have
a picture.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, I remember, I remember Robin m Gear. Yeah, Alex
Tangy I think played in that game. Rene Bork I
for sure did, yes, yes, yes, But it was such
a loss season. That's that's when like it wasn't working
for the Flames anymore, you know, like the roster was
just wasn't gonna get done. And this is where like
the mediocrity that we dealt with years ago had really
started to creep back in.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. In twenty nineteen, a Heritage game
again and they kept it simple this year and they came.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Out with just the the white woh yeah when they
when they brought that back to perfectly compliment you know,
the original radley was just like like Chef's kiss, like
it just was perfect and there was and there was
no surprise here. And I'm sure you remember that. Well,
everybody was talking about, Oh, they're gonna they're gonna show
the pictures of the white jersey, and now we knew
it had to be this. Anything else would have been sacrilege.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yep, you're you're totally right. And then in twenty twenty one,
we came out or the NHL introduced the reverse retro
in and only a few teams participated it. It was
either like six or ten I believe participated in the
reverse retro program. And we we showed this earlier. But
and I'll go through the two that that we had.
We had won in twenty twenty one, and then in
twenty twenty two and twenty three we had a reverse retro.
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This is the twenty twenty one was the Blasty and
then in twenty two twenty three is the one you
referenced earlier, and that is the the pedestal in a black.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, which I have Trevor Lewis's schame onar or or
two point zero, which I paid quite a lot of
money for because it's a Lewis jersey. But you know,
I really still appreciate the guys sell it. To me,
the coolest touch on this jersey is because even though
I don't think it's by no means is it a masterpiece,
the fact they did the NHL logo on the collar
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and like the nineties NHL color yep versus like the
silver black shield they used today, like was a really
really nice touch.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, I'm I'm a traditionalist, but I did not
mind this. I did not mind this jersey at all.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, I thought it was the thing about jerseys is
anytime they add one to a rotation, even it's for
a handful of games, it's purely marketing et cetra dollars,
But there are like cool little intricacies here. And I
thought it was kind of nice to give the pedestal
a throwback because it was kind of much belind and
represented such a bad era, like we talked about, and
I don't remember a whole lot of dialogue around this
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jersey at the time. And certainly not since it was
just like that was cool? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Moving on, Yeah, I wonder like, when you look at
this jersey, what it would have looked like if they
could have reverse retro of the pants but have them
be red and keep the black jersey, and see what
that looked like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm picturing right now. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I don't know. I just I just thought, if you're
gonna do it wild, like I just was always wondered.
I'm a huge fan of red pants versus the black pants,
and I just thought.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, I will say this because I wear like the
retro flamespants when I play hockey. But these pants, which
are basically the same ones they were in the nineties,
those are my favorite Flame spants. I love the white
lego on them. I love the pedestal stripping down the leg.
I just and even when they wore it with blasty
like in the late nineties, it was a cool, cool look,
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very subtle, like yeah, very neat.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Then in twenty twenty three, the most recent I guess
heritage classic that one was in Regina the Flames broke
out these Yeah, I can't wait to hear what your
thoughts there was it basically a round logo that said
Calgary Flames with the sea smaller in the middle. Very
very old school, kind of a cream color, light cream color,
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uh an old look nice striping on the pants. I
really like that.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yep. It's funny that this is, you know, Lynholm jersey
on the screen I have. That's twenty eight. I have
eighty two Jordanist release. It's a really cool jersey. Actually,
I like this jersey and they wore it a couple
times after that too, they did.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Did they done to play like two or three more
games in it?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah? I believe they did. And actually this to me
and I think you'll agree, this really corrected the faux
pas that was the mustard Calgary Tiger's jersey from twenty eleven.
Oh yeah, yeah, you forgot it again already that we
just talked about it.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I just the Ronald McDonald jerseys. Oh, they were bad.
They were bad. When you think back though, when you
look at all the jerseys. As we wrap up here,
what is your like if you had one jersey that
you could have for a Flames jersey and that's all
you could have anymore? What what is your all time
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favorite Flames jersey?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
M that's really tough.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Let's do this. What's your favorite regular season one, Like
a regular jersey, just a regular, not a special one,
just a regular one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Probably the current red Home, like the retro vintage jersey,
but in its current rendition because it's been modernized enough.
The striping's thicker, the caller's nicer, the logo's bigger. So
it's just taking something. And when you read articles about
that jersey and how it is today, like everybody just says,
it's exactly what it was, you know, almost fifty years ago. Yeah,
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but it's it's just really really nice, clean and bold.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
If I had to pick, i'd pick the new, the
retro that we're wearing now, the white one. I've always
loved white jerseys. There's just something about that crisp white
that looks really really nice. And if I had to
pick my favorite special jersey, I think I would have
to go with the twenty three Heritage classic the Realm
circle logo. I thought it was clean. I wouldn't want
it for our everyday jersey, so I don't, but I
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thought it was a very very classy look for a
one off.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I agree, Yeah, I agree, it's it. It was just
how do I heard that it was just subtle enough
that it worked.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You know, yeah, that's kind of It wasn't a lot
of pushback on that jersey at all.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Was there no much much like the R two point
zero pedestal. It just it didn't get a lot of fanfare.
And that's in the case like this, like that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I I I really liked
that jersey.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I thought that was so of all the unconventional jerseys,
so pedestals, reverse retro pedestal, blasty, script Jersey heritage classics.
What of all the obscure ones, is your favorite? Is
it the most racent heritage classic?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yep, with honorable mention to the reverse
schrectrol black pedestal. I that goes against everything that I've
always liked in Jerseys, but that they put that together
really nice.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think for me it's like blasty is It's really
primary in my mind. But I do like the reverse
retro blasty is just so well done.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, you know what, I do have one thing to
mention on the original blasting in this this almost solidifies
a little bit more of what you said about remembering
from the winning times when my when my son who's
nineteen now started really liking hockey and he was born
in six Yeah, the jersey he wanted was the original
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Blasting That's the jersey he wanted. And when we were
going to pick out a Flames jersey, that's what he wanted.
And I find that interesting because I think it it's
more built to that era, right, It's it's built to
that age group. It's it's built to that you know.
I think I bet you if you pulled all the kids,
kids would love the Blasty jersey. I think I think
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it's a huge for them.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Right absolutely, Yeah, hmm, this is interesting. And now I'm
thinking more and more about these jerseys and just like
the players of wore them and how long they lasted
and what do you think it's the next jersey to
make a comeback?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What do you mean like to make a comeback? Do
you think you mean like a reintroduction of the like
a whist on the pedestal or.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Like yeah, well I think I mean okay, so I'll say, like,
I think the next jersey that we're going to see
in the rotation is the Black Sea with the with
the blast on the shoulders to commemorate like two thousand
and four.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, that's probably Yeah, that would probably be the the easiest,
most logical thing, right, Yeah, I think so. The memories
are so fond of that old four cup run that
I think it would be hard to screw that up, right.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
But it's do you ever think in the next do
you think in the next day decade we see like
a complete rebrand uh a home and away regular jersey
for the Flames.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Mmmm. It depends on what the rest of the league does.
I'd be surprised. I would too, I really would they
Just like I said, with when you throw in the
blasty along with those originals or renditions of the originals,
it just works so well. I just don't see. Yeah,
I don't see how they get away from that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know, tell me if I'm maybe a little off
based on this. But my one fear now is though,
with fanatics running the jerseys, that they're gonna want to
alter and twist up things frequently to make more money. Hm.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Very possible.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I just tind to know how they operate, right, Yeah,
It's just that that's one fear I have. I'm as traditionalists.
It's uh, I want to I don't mind doing special
things and stuff, but I just I don't know. I
really like where we're at now with our jerseys, and
I think if you ran a poll across the National
Hockey League, I think many people would put us in
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the top five to ten for best jerseys in the league. Yep.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh, just and you in most editorials that you see
will say the same thing. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
But I think where as it stands right now, this
is the nicest collection as a whole we've had as
a team. So hopefully some success comes with that.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Oh, we're gonna find out what what happens here in
the next few months with this season, so it's exciting.
It is France. We hope you're enjoying the off season,
and we hope also hope that you enjoy when Kyle
and I do these special edition I don't know what
you'd want to call them, special episodes where we just
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talked about different topics and flames history or different topics
around around the Calgary Flames. So they're fun doing it
and we've got a good time doing these special ones,
and we hope you enjoyed them. Two. We also hope
that you're having a great summer and we'll be back
to the rinks and back to the dorm here soon
with Calgary Flames Talk.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Absolutely could agree more. And yeah, the week's time to
slip away. So hopefully, as you're saying, we're you guys
are enjoying this as much as we're enjoy doing it. Well,
we'll be back very soon with you another.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
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Any Flame fans. It's time for another edition of Flames Unfiltered.
Diane brad Rude one of the hosts. Kyle lewis the
other host, and today it's a off season special episode
and we're going to kind of run through the evolution
of the Flames jersey. There hasn't been a ton of
variations compared to some franchise, but you'd be surprised how
(00:45):
many times this team has switched. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Absolutely, And it's funny, like when you think about those
different eras and how long some jerseys lasted, maybe how
long they should have lasted. This is one that I've
been looking forward to doing for a while because there's
so many different memories associated with all the different jerseys
we've had, right.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean there's been some good and then when
we get into some of the special heritage ones, there's
been some not so good. And I think our opinions
actually in some of the jerseys may differ, which is
part of the fun of doing this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh wait, and we know that they do. We've talked
about this step before, but I don't know that we've
often got into the intricacies of those differences. So this
should be uh, this should be really interesting, and I'm
sure everybody out there has Obviously they have their favorites
and ones I like more than others, and ones that
they just love that others hate, which is perhaps the
most interesting than inic of it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right, Yeah, and like I'm such a traditionalist, so
you guys all know that that listened to the show.
So I'm going to like more of the traditional ones
and we'll see where it goes. Because there's a couple
of the heritage ones that I was a pretty big
fan of too, and a couple I really hated too.
So and then I can't wait to get the talk
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on the pedestal jersey and just the transformation of all
the jerseys. So we'll get into it right away. If
you're listening, we'll try to describe the jerseys as best
we can. We're kind of cruise through because it is
a off season edition and we don't want to keep
you too long on this episode. First off, I want
to thank NHL Uniform Database for the graphics. So if
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you can watch this episode on YouTube Flames Unfiltered, you'll
find it. It's easy because we're going to be putting
up the graphics as we can hopefully that goes as
smooth as possible in the production part of it. So
we'll get right into it. We aren't going to talk
about the Atlanta Flames jerseys. Just we'll talk about it
once once we got to Calgary, right and we'll roll
(02:38):
into it. Eighty eighty one. The traditional jersey slight variation
to where we're at today, but not a lot. And
I don't know, I love this jersey. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean at the time, as things were with pretty
much every team, like the logos kind of small. You
think about the old black Hawks jerseys for example, like
like the same kind of thing the Habs jersey, remember,
like just the emblem was just no, it just it
never felt bombastic in your face. It was a very
small logo relative what we have today.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I, you know, I didn't even It's funny you
bring that up right away off the out of the gate.
I didn't notice that so much when I when I
pulled these graphics and I and when I think back
to that jersey, but I think back to the very
first jersey that I got in, and the logo is smaller.
It is noticeably smaller comparatively speaking to what we're getting today.
And I absolutely kind of the sign of the times.
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That jersey was from eighty eighty one and then we
rolled on into a jersey from eighty one to ninety four. Really,
I do an unnoticeable change from the first year's jersey.
I think there was just some slight striping changes. The
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colors was really all it. And this this is the
jersey and one I think, you know, I think one
of some of the older Flames fans, well, I was
just this jersey is the one we won the cup in, right,
So how do you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Not.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, look at the memories of that jersey and
the heritage of that jersey and the photos we still
look at to this day of that jersey, and that's
kind of what symbolizes it in my mind.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, and that's that's it. I mean, this even the
cup is you know, the biggest piece of it. But
I mean those teams in general during this era were
very successful. By the time that they retired it in
ninety four, they had moved on to a completely different design,
but also traded away virtually every single piece of their
Stanley Cup. You know, heyday, right, you know, excluding the
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fair and fliterate At the time, like so you can can't,
and that that's kind of what ushered the Young Guns era.
But I mean, ultimately, this jersey, no matter what anybody says,
will always be the one most synonymous with the success
the Flames had at that time. Even though it's like
Jersey one in Jersey two and it's current variation that
we'll get to, it's people still call it like vintage
or retro or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right, yeah, yeah, it would. Yeah, it is the vintage retro.
And as we as we transition down to that ninety
five to ninety eight pedestal jersey, were you how old
were you when that change happened. I should probably know
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that I was seven, okay, so that you don't remember
it being a big deal. I remember it being a huge,
huge deal. No, sure, yeah, I because let's as I
pulled it up, it was a drastic, drastic change, and
not only in the striping on the shoulders and in
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the pedestal type, as is what it's no one's for today.
I'm striping on the bottom. But the big change to
me was the black helmet and the black pants.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah. Well, and we should there's a little bit of
a correction here too. These jerseys were worn until ninety
nine two thousand, so.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They were yes, And I'll pull that up right now
with the blast he introduced, y Yeah, ninety eight to
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, So maybe this might be the best graphic for
us to use to kind of go through it. So
to your point in terms of what a colossal change
it was, the pedestal jersey for me was like when
I really became a fan, which is when they were
pretty well they're absolute worst raight.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So to you, this jersey, I don't know, signifies the beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Like the real beginning. I always like that's more close
to what I associate theol Flury with because he was
like our early good player superstar really at that time.
Shouldn't say good player, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But I would agree that's what I when I think
of theol Flury, I think of him in this jersey,
or than I think of him in the retro, in
the retro the Cup winning jersey. I guess you could
you could, Yeah, you could say, I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Because because he was a piece of the puzzle. But
he wasn't you know, Al mckinnis, Mike Fern and Doug
gilmore important. And I mean he was hugely important to me. Wrong,
but when with these jerseys he was the face of
the franchise and and nobody was even close to his level.
And then the supplemental pieces around that, Derek Morris, Denny Gocier,
Valerie Beret, Mark Sivard, German Teetoff. Like, there's so many
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players and from those years that I think of Michael
Neilander actually would be a good example.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's funny you bring up my
German tee Doff because he is he was a decent player.
I mean he really was and absolutely, yeah, I hear
that there was all but completely forgotten. Well I think
that well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And there's actually a great bit in Theo. Fleury's book
about German te Doff right talk about his time growing
up with the USSR and it is his military service.
The thing is is like what I want to point
out with this era of these jerseys and how they're
kind of associated away with mediocrity. It's like at the
time when these jerseys were in use, the Canadian dollars
and the toilet, the Jets relieving, the Nordics relieving, Yeah,
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the Oilers and Flames and all these other teams Canadian
teams were doing like these drives for season tickets and
if we don't hit this target, we're gonna have to
sell the team. So they're kind of like doom and
glooming away. But they also represented like a major touring
port for the franchise, And it's unfortunate that these jerseys
kind of represent that really really difficult era economically end
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on the ice for the Flames. But now I think
we look back a little bit more fondly because we realized, like,
at least that's how I look at it, like they
were able to get through that time period. And that's
more when I see these jerseys, as you know the
time period, were a lot of Nhler's Jays Shager for example,
martasan Luis. They wore this jersey and they became, you know,
cons my twinners or Hall of famers. Like it's not
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all bad, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I mean I have I have a lot of
really good, really good, really good memories of these. I
do struggle a little bit though, to remember, like the
the blasting when that came out with your original blasting,
I struggled to remember a lot of that and that
and that was for what two years they wore that, Yeah,
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ninety eight to two thousand. Do you remember their their origination,
the blasting and when it first came out.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I remember. I mean it changed quite a bit
rather quickly the first three years. Like they had the
like the like the the white letters for the assistant
captains and the captain, and they were stylized differently. Trying
to think, like I have like a memory of Theo
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Fleury scoring his record breaking point in that jersey against
Animal I'm not mistaken, yeap, and then I that and
for some reason, even though they all wore the same,
these three jerseys, I think more of like Todd Simpson
in the Blasty jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Right, I know it is funny how that is.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean it keep in mind at the time too,
I mean for those who maybe aren't familiar with the
jersey history, like every team was doing drastically different things,
like the Boston Puber jersey, yea, the Fishtecks jersey and
on the Island as people call it. It was just
it was a really and now those jerseys are like
that's the reverse retro program is like rebranding these jerseys,
reintroducing them and now the Pedestal had one a few
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years ago, which unfortunately have to own one of It's
not my favorite jersey, but it's a very cool piece
of history, and that's that's kind of the point here too.
We're not we're going to debate some of our favorites
and ones we don't like, but at the same time, like,
there's certain memories that are just associated with these jerseys
and represent cool pieces of time in the Flames history.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
This was also a time frame and an erarow where
every team it seemed like, was having something to do
with a black jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That was a night like the late nineties, right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I know everybody had a black jersey, Yeah, some
sort you know here or there, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And some came a little like I remember San Jose's
black jersey. Actually I hadn't thought about that one for
a long time, but yeah, like understated like and then also,
you know, shortly after this time, PRIs on the switch
back to Dark's at Home, right, So we should point
out this was the last, actually the second last jersey
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jersey collection that was worn at home until it changed.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And and let's switch right into that change. And this
was a giant change it was a jersey set that
we wore from two thousand to two thousand and three,
and that is when the transition from white being the
home jersey to white being the road jersey. And it
was the initiation of uh were I mean we we
didn't even have a red jersey, but we wore that
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black jersey, the Blast New jersey at home solely for
for those three years.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah. So we had the white yeah, the white jersey
at home. And then when they switched it like this
is yeah, this is like you said, it's only for years.
It was really a strange time. And this particular set
is like this is where I was like Jerome mcgillan
became a star, right two, Dave Lowry's captain for a time,
and Craig Conroy and Bob Budener shared the captaincy after that.
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And then this is the era where it Againla became
captain two.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, and then and then in three to six, uh,
the Blast he moved to the third jersey. And then
this is what all of us as Flames fans remember,
as you know, the O four Cup run jerseys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, and these were co hosts and that's important too
to recognize the brands because there's been so many that
have had the jersey rights over the years. This is
when the league had gone from uh it was Pro Player,
then CCM, and then to the co host.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And it's funny that you say that too, because it
was CCM predominantly for decades.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think, right, well, pro players in there for a
couple of years. I have Pro Player game war on
to Jeff Cowen's and they're really really nice jersey. But
a very very brief period of time.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I forgot all about cole Player. I did now that, Yeah,
I just it kind of came back to me and I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like, hmmm, I don't know what happened to them. I'd
like to look into that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Actually, yeah, you remember when co hole I got it
and it was I don't know it did that? That
seemed different to me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I guess co Hoo because as a name and as
a brand, like as I pitched the logo, really exemplified
hockey to me at that time. It's probably just prior
to when Easton really took off because of like being
a marketing machine and a ton of players wearing the
gear and being sponsored by them. But coho like and
I've got a couple I think. Yeah, I have two
Coho blasties of Dave Lowry and Denny Goci. Actually they're
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really really nice jerseys. Yeah. And the thing we should
point out here too, for those that don't remember, that
red jersey initially had black lettering for the name bar
and people were complaining they couldn't read the player names
on TV, so they changed it to a white name bar.
So if you actually look at the two and three
twousand and four season, you'll see in the first like
I don't know, five or ten games home games, those
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jerseys had.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Black I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I have photos of it here. I'll send you a couple.
They changed it relatively quickly. But yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Interesting, Hm, I don't, yeah, send me a picture. I
don't remember that at all.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's why it's fun to go through this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Right, Yeah, what did you think of the v stripe.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
For that era? I actually liked it. Those jerseys just
look like vague and impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I didn't hate it. I still kind of like
the pedestal jersey more than this jersey. But everybody that
knows me and listens to this show knows my feelings
on the Blasty. I wasn't a huge Blasty fan, so
that kind of I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I have a theory on that that I'm going to share,
but well it's not so much a theory as it
is kind of factual some people I've talked to. So
for guys like yourself a little bit older than myself,
like when you grow up with that vintage jersey, like
the iconic Flames, one of the one that exemplified our success,
and then you go to Blasty, which in the late
nineties was kind of it wasn't like it here, Yeah,
like it was. It was like it wasn't Here's a
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cool I mean initially was yeah, third Jersey, but then
it kind of took over and the history was just
kind of completely pushed aside and represented such a crappy
era in terms of Flames on ice performance.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It was kind of like shoved down our throats. I
feel like for younger guys like me at that time,
like I was like a teenager, like I thought it
was the coolest jersey ever, which is why you know,
I have the Blasty hat and it's and it's funny
because like, yeah, some people they they like Noah Adler,
for example. It's just such a huge, huge, huge blasting
mark and good for him. But it's just interesting how
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people love and hate certain jerseys differently. And I think
you've actually, if I correct me if I'm wrong, I
think you've warmed up a bit to blasting in the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I like the newer version, and we'll get to that
later on, but I do. I do like the newer
version a lot better than than.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The old cool interesting, interesting because my buddy actually likes
the old version better too, But I like them both.
I don't really know if I have a favorite.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think there was. It was something to do with
the red on the bottom of the strip being and
the old one I just wasn't a fan of that.
I like the newer one a lot better. But you know,
and I remember when they introduced the second blasty. And
maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I remember saying
something to you. I said, and and this goes back
to exactly what you just said about how and why
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I probably don't like the original blasting because it's signified
losing to me, and and and the new blasting. I
remember when it came out. You were you were you
were kind of laughing, and I was kind of laughing about, like,
oh great, I gotta go through this again. And I
remember saying to you, well, I really don't care as
long as they wait, and if they went in this jersey,
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And actually, interestingly enough, at that time, when they reintroduced Blasty,
the Flames of like a montage video like announcing it,
and they included one of my tweets in it because
I'd said that the original Blast is the first Flames
jersey ever bought for myself. I remember I was working
at a cross country ski club as a cashier when
I was like twelve or thirteen, and I had the
jersey on layway at sports check, and I asked my
boss to pay me a date in advance so I
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could go to sports check and pick it up when
I got home that day. My parents already bought it
and hug out my bedroom for me.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah. So and that's and that again where it's a
childhood memory of sorts, that's what makes this jersey like
meaningful to me. And now people like if there's Flames
fans that don't like the color red or they're not
into the traditional logo. They're not even a Flames fan.
They can gravitate more towards something different like the Bosty logo.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, and again this is really important before we go
any further. These jerseys, especially like this red Home, was
used for such a brief amount of time that I
don't feel it ever got the run that it should
have got.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Probably a fair yep, probably fair.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
From three to four to six o seven, which you
count the lockowed of course, yeah, three seasons for that
was in use.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Because we did switch coming out of the locko. We
went and were the Red at Home and then the
White on the Road with and then we minused the
Blasty at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, when they went to the they went to Reebok. Yes, yeah,
so the at Blast he was actually with these right
well in five o six. I know they were, because
I've had those jerseys. Six o seven, I can't remember
if Blast he was still around. If they dropped it
for a year.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They dropped it for a year, they dropped the well,
they dropped it for more than a year because.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But that was the year they dropped it. Then they
switched to RBK with the flags jerseys, right.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yep, yes, because then yeah, and seven, as I get it,
as I go ahead here in seven, we dropped the
V stripe and went to the side striping, stayed with
the black pants and the black helmet, and then had
the flags on the side, the Canadian and Alberta flag. Yeah.
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And then of course Blasty disappeared, I guess in the
previous season the six oh seven seas.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yes, and now these jerseys, this is like the I
don't know how to explain that, but it's like I
had a lot of hope with SoC these because this
is like when you know, we still had Dion Fanough,
we acquired Ole Yok and Mike Camillary had one of
the best seasons any Flames had in these jerseys. And
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if I remember on.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
A hand's emergence in these jerseys, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, and that and that's the interesting part about these
ones is that they they encompassed two eras. Now they
had we should mention two of the low like the
RBK logo, which because that's what they recalled them, like
this rebrock. They dropped the RBK and the logo and
just went to straight rebock on them. In the last
few years that they had the league license, yes, but
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these jerseys represent the end of the kippersoft again la
era and a couple a couple of years of absolute
misery where Joey McDonald was our best goaltending option. In
no disrespect to Joey, I mean he was an every
gonna have little position. He's actually from nearby Piccto County.
But and then we transitioned into you know, Johnny Gudreaux,
Sean Monahan and the kind of the turning point of
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the franchise, right.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, yep, it was. It was a big turning point. Yeah,
And I'm I'm not gonna lie. I did not mind
this jersey.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I remember, like, I like this more than the one
that came after, even though it was very similar. And
I think Mike Gould actually pointed out at one point
that the one that came after this was just a
much tighter design. The lines made more sense, it was cleaner,
it was kind of crisper, and I never saw it
that way because I really like these, and maybe it's
just because of I should also mention actually they wore
these red jerseys the first two times I saw them
play alive, in two thousand and nine against Columbus and Minnesota, sure,
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and then they were still wearing them when I was
there for the playoffs in twenty fifteen, when you know
a Game three when in the round two against the
Ducks when we went overtime. So those memories obviously and
flu it's how I feel about them.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And then there was some transitions in nine where we
went to have seen the retro I guess is really
what we call this because this takes us back to
that that eighty nine era, and we wore that at home,
he in and out, and then even transfer trans we
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actually removed that retro jersey and had two different third
jerseys with the Calgary script jersey that many people, I
guess you'd say love or hate this jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I had a TJ. Brody game warn script jersey and
I sold it, and I still kind of regret it
because it was just a cool piece to own. I
don't have a lot of fond memories of the team
were in that jersey. Actually, I remember really well when
they had like Curtis Glencross and Mike Camillary and those
guys like modeling the jersey. Yeah yeah, yep, And I
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have for some reason, I remember that photo very vividly.
But when it was when it was dropped, I just
remember thinking, I have no idea what this jersey's like,
he's going to be if we'll ever see any variation.
I actually had a golf shirt that had that Calgary
logo on it, and it looks really cool, but as
the primary logo on a jersey, eh, I.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I can't say that I hated it, but to me,
it definitely it definitely screamed third Jersey. Oh yeah, you
know what I mean? Oh yeah, it totally to me,
just screamed. It just screamed third Jersey.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, not a not yeah, not not something that had
any staying power and like and the shoulder patch logo
on it too, like the Rocky Mountain patch is actually
kind of cool, but yeah, it was. What was that retired?
Was it after fourteen fifteen? I think I know they
I know they weren't in fourteen fifteen. Actually, I think
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fifteen sixteen might have been the last year for it.
I have some memory of Lance Boma wearing that that
tells me that might have been the last year it
was worn.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
In twenty twenty one, which cheese doesn't seem like that
long ago, right, right, we went full we went to
switch it over here, we went to the full retro
for the twenty For the cod COVID year, we wore
the reds is the the red retro was the primary
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and the black stripe side stripe was the secondary. And
then in twenty one twenty two we went simplified and
just went full retro. Home.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think I have two comments on that, because you
just said it and it didn't really catch it, But
now you reminded me when the red jersey with the
black sea was their one of the third jerseys.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
For that was so just that COVID yearly sird.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
It was so awkward because they rotated what was a
primary jersey to being an alternate jersey. And the only
reason I can think it was still in circulation. The
only reason I think that's the case is that that's
when Ken King, who was a huge proponent of the
flags jerseys, that's when his health was starting to fail,
and I think they kept it as a tribute to him.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
That's my theory.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, well, he was he was kind of at the
head of that, uh you know, pursuing that design and
including Alberta Canadian flags, Okay, and I don't maybe I
heard that somewhere. I don't want to sit here and
say that that was the absolute reason because I can't remember,
but it seems to me in the timeline as well,
that that's why that jersey hung on for an extra
year in a very odd way, you know, because it
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probably should have been retired by them. But that's why
they kept the thinking because Ken King was was still
around in the last years of his life.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Okay, I did not know that. Were you when we
in twenty one when we went full retro? Were you?
Were you? As? Were you pumped about that? Because I
was off the charts. I just I was so happy.
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I back to Mike, Like you said, it goes back
to when I remembered them winning. Right, That's all this
comes back to, Right, It comes back to our memories,
our memories of good times.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, yeah, for sure. I mean I was definitely in
favor of what I like that for like for old
school fans, and they brought it back, just the two
of them. But I won't why. I was absolutely clamoring, like, okay,
they nailed part of the jersey equation. These should be
our primary jerseys, but I wanted to see something from
the era that I loved, you know, added to that,
and that's eventually what we got. So but yeah, I
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mean the moved back to the to the proper original
flames jerseys in the newest design was an absolute no brainer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
In twenty twenty two to present, the jerseys were watching
in current day here now was the introduction of Blast.
You what you want to call it? Two point zero?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, and actually this is kind of a three point
oh because prior to this one was the exact same
jersey without the flames and the sleeves. Yes, so I have,
for example, a lot of jersey Michael Stones which does
not have flames on the on the cuffs, and then
I have a dental mirror mount off one from a
season later or two seasons later, where the flames are there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So are you speaking of the twenty twenty one reverse retro?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Then no, I mean Blasty Okay, So so like, okay,
let me rephrase that.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So twenty one the Blast was a reverse retro.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yes, that's right, So it was a verse retro one
point oh that yeah, that one which Gudrod, Moore and
Monahan obviously, as you can see here. So that same
jersey just had the flames added to the cuffs. That
was the only and it's kind of a it's a
very subtle addition, but it is kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, yep, I did not notice that. Yeah, I'm interested
to see now before we move on into special jerseys.
I'm interested to see what really happens though with the Blasty.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
To be honest with you, I've been buying a lot
of Blasting year the last twoyears because scared they're going
to take it away from me again. So I don't
think that they will, because when it came back, it
was a huge comeback. A lot of people do love it.
And some people still say to me if I'm wearing
this hat or a golf shirt with the logo, like, oh,
what's that? I'm like, it's the flames alternate logo, Like
oh really, Like they don't even know that it is, right.
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I just think right now it's in its proper place
as an alternate jersey, one that gets Wren you know,
eight to fifteen times a season, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I yes, And I'm fine with it being an alternate jersey.
One thing that does frustrate me is like when we're
having an epic battle like a Battle of Alberta or
or a Canucks Flames please don't wear the Blasty has
nothing to do with the Battle of Alberta, right, we
got to wear our normal jerseys on those nights.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I played a game and I don't know NHL whatever
year it was twenty three or twenty four probably where
I was playing against the Canucks and I had the
skate jerseys on the Canucks and Blasty on the Flames,
and I couldn't tell the teams apart, and it was
just a disaster.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's the same jersey.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's ridiculous, Like the color scheme is very identical, so
I know what you mean too, like those classic games.
And I remember like there was one game and I
think what it was. The Flames were wearing their the
white jerseys pictured here, and the Oilers were wearing like
like the what do they call it, like the Neon
Oilers jersey. Yeah, it looked like it looked like the
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Flames are playing like a cyborg version of their oldest
rival from the future.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Like it was just dumb. Yes, I you know, these
are jerseys you wear when you're playing Carolina or Dallas
or something.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, or another conference opponent that's not you know, in
your division. There's no history, like, no big rivalry, right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So yeah, where when we play the Sharks?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like okay, yeah, who cares?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, who cares. Let's go on to some special jerseys.
In oh nine to ten, they pulled out the thirtieth
anniversary and this was kind of our first look at
the reverse retro and this kind of I think, uh,
this is what I think got the wheels turning for
the reintroduction of the retro. I don't know. I just
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remember this, and I believe they only wore it one game.
I believe. I believe it was only worn on one game,
but I think it was five was it? Was it five?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I think it was five games. I returned for some reason.
I don't know why I spent the money on this,
but I have. That's the Toscola's jersey with this exact one,
and it's super cool, way too much. Yeah, i'll send
you pictures of it. I don't know why I bought it.
The Tosco and name bar is really cool, but yeah,
it's just it's a neat It's a neat piece. Even
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it was only here for a handful of games. But yeah,
this definitely started the everybody started clamoring to have this
jersey back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right. Do you remember when the Heritage Classic was announced
first in twenty eleven and it was going to be exciting, right,
it was going to be exciting, and they announced that
they were going to have this new jersey, and oh man,
I was just pumped. I couldn't I couldn't wait to
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see what. You know, there's the sky's e limit for
cool designs you can come up with for a one
game jersey, right, and then we get this the Ronald McDonald,
The Ronald McDonald.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, and you can't even tell this picture how actually
how beige those pants are?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
They're brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Tell us how you really feel?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
This is the worst that Okay, do you remember a
few years ago when this Colorida Avalanche played in the
Stadium Series game? It looked like some gramma knitted a
sweater for him. It was brutal. It was the worst.
This jersey is right there with that jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Do you know how many Stadium Series jerseys? I don't
remember because I'm just so sick of there always being
a Stadium Series, Like, I don't I.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Don't even yeah, excited to watch stadium series games. I
don't not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I I don't remember the lost when I watched it
was a Flames game I have I've like channel served
and it could have tuned in for a minute. But
if you showed me like a Bruins stadium series jersey,
I couldn't tell you what year it's from. I could
probably guess.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But no, And there's been some good stadium series jerseys,
there has. Yeah, it just seems like there's more bad
than good.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Well, and we won this game for nothing against the
Canadians in a good game.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I remember Mika Kippersoft in that jersey clearly, I have
a picture.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, I remember, I remember Robin m Gear. Yeah, Alex
Tangy I think played in that game. Rene Bork I
for sure did, yes, yes, yes, But it was such
a loss season. That's that's when like it wasn't working
for the Flames anymore, you know, like the roster was
just wasn't gonna get done. And this is where like
the mediocrity that we dealt with years ago had really
started to creep back in.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. In twenty nineteen, a Heritage game
again and they kept it simple this year and they came.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Out with just the the white woh yeah when they
when they brought that back to perfectly compliment you know,
the original radley was just like like Chef's kiss, like
it just was perfect and there was and there was
no surprise here. And I'm sure you remember that. Well,
everybody was talking about, Oh, they're gonna they're gonna show
the pictures of the white jersey, and now we knew
it had to be this. Anything else would have been sacrilege.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yep, you're you're totally right. And then in twenty twenty one,
we came out or the NHL introduced the reverse retro
in and only a few teams participated it. It was
either like six or ten I believe participated in the
reverse retro program. And we we showed this earlier. But
and I'll go through the two that that we had.
We had won in twenty twenty one, and then in
twenty twenty two and twenty three we had a reverse retro.
(32:38):
This is the twenty twenty one was the Blasty and
then in twenty two twenty three is the one you
referenced earlier, and that is the the pedestal in a black.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, which I have Trevor Lewis's schame onar or or
two point zero, which I paid quite a lot of
money for because it's a Lewis jersey. But you know,
I really still appreciate the guys sell it. To me,
the coolest touch on this jersey is because even though
I don't think it's by no means is it a masterpiece,
the fact they did the NHL logo on the collar
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and like the nineties NHL color yep versus like the
silver black shield they used today, like was a really
really nice touch.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, I'm I'm a traditionalist, but I did not
mind this. I did not mind this jersey at all.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, I thought it was the thing about jerseys is
anytime they add one to a rotation, even it's for
a handful of games, it's purely marketing et cetra dollars,
But there are like cool little intricacies here. And I
thought it was kind of nice to give the pedestal
a throwback because it was kind of much belind and
represented such a bad era, like we talked about, and
I don't remember a whole lot of dialogue around this
(33:43):
jersey at the time. And certainly not since it was
just like that was cool? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Moving on, Yeah, I wonder like, when you look at
this jersey, what it would have looked like if they
could have reverse retro of the pants but have them
be red and keep the black jersey, and see what
that looked like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm picturing right now. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I don't know. I just I just thought, if you're
gonna do it wild, like I just was always wondered.
I'm a huge fan of red pants versus the black pants,
and I just thought.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, I will say this because I wear like the
retro flamespants when I play hockey. But these pants, which
are basically the same ones they were in the nineties,
those are my favorite Flame spants. I love the white
lego on them. I love the pedestal stripping down the leg.
I just and even when they wore it with blasty
like in the late nineties, it was a cool, cool look,
(34:30):
very subtle, like yeah, very neat.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Then in twenty twenty three, the most recent I guess
heritage classic that one was in Regina the Flames broke
out these Yeah, I can't wait to hear what your
thoughts there was it basically a round logo that said
Calgary Flames with the sea smaller in the middle. Very
very old school, kind of a cream color, light cream color,
(34:57):
uh an old look nice striping on the pants. I
really like that.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yep. It's funny that this is, you know, Lynholm jersey
on the screen I have. That's twenty eight. I have
eighty two Jordanist release. It's a really cool jersey. Actually,
I like this jersey and they wore it a couple
times after that too, they did.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Did they done to play like two or three more
games in it?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah? I believe they did. And actually this to me
and I think you'll agree, this really corrected the faux
pas that was the mustard Calgary Tiger's jersey from twenty eleven.
Oh yeah, yeah, you forgot it again already that we
just talked about it.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I just the Ronald McDonald jerseys. Oh, they were bad.
They were bad. When you think back though, when you
look at all the jerseys. As we wrap up here,
what is your like if you had one jersey that
you could have for a Flames jersey and that's all
you could have anymore? What what is your all time
(35:58):
favorite Flames jersey?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
M that's really tough.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Let's do this. What's your favorite regular season one, Like
a regular jersey, just a regular, not a special one,
just a regular one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Probably the current red Home, like the retro vintage jersey,
but in its current rendition because it's been modernized enough.
The striping's thicker, the caller's nicer, the logo's bigger. So
it's just taking something. And when you read articles about
that jersey and how it is today, like everybody just says,
it's exactly what it was, you know, almost fifty years ago. Yeah,
(36:36):
but it's it's just really really nice, clean and bold.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
If I had to pick, i'd pick the new, the
retro that we're wearing now, the white one. I've always
loved white jerseys. There's just something about that crisp white
that looks really really nice. And if I had to
pick my favorite special jersey, I think I would have
to go with the twenty three Heritage classic the Realm
circle logo. I thought it was clean. I wouldn't want
it for our everyday jersey, so I don't, but I
(37:01):
thought it was a very very classy look for a
one off.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I agree, Yeah, I agree, it's it. It was just
how do I heard that it was just subtle enough
that it worked.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You know, yeah, that's kind of It wasn't a lot
of pushback on that jersey at all.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Was there no much much like the R two point
zero pedestal. It just it didn't get a lot of fanfare.
And that's in the case like this, like that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I I I really liked
that jersey.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I thought that was so of all the unconventional jerseys,
so pedestals, reverse retro pedestal, blasty, script Jersey heritage classics.
What of all the obscure ones, is your favorite? Is
it the most racent heritage classic?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yep, with honorable mention to the reverse
schrectrol black pedestal. I that goes against everything that I've
always liked in Jerseys, but that they put that together
really nice.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think for me it's like blasty is It's really
primary in my mind. But I do like the reverse
retro blasty is just so well done.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, you know what, I do have one thing to
mention on the original blasting in this this almost solidifies
a little bit more of what you said about remembering
from the winning times when my when my son who's
nineteen now started really liking hockey and he was born
in six Yeah, the jersey he wanted was the original
(38:36):
Blasting That's the jersey he wanted. And when we were
going to pick out a Flames jersey, that's what he wanted.
And I find that interesting because I think it it's
more built to that era, right, It's it's built to
that age group. It's it's built to that you know.
I think I bet you if you pulled all the kids,
kids would love the Blasty jersey. I think I think
(38:58):
it's a huge for them.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Right absolutely, Yeah, hmm, this is interesting. And now I'm
thinking more and more about these jerseys and just like
the players of wore them and how long they lasted
and what do you think it's the next jersey to
make a comeback?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What do you mean like to make a comeback? Do
you think you mean like a reintroduction of the like
a whist on the pedestal or.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Like yeah, well I think I mean okay, so I'll say, like,
I think the next jersey that we're going to see
in the rotation is the Black Sea with the with
the blast on the shoulders to commemorate like two thousand
and four.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, that's probably Yeah, that would probably be the the easiest,
most logical thing, right, Yeah, I think so. The memories
are so fond of that old four cup run that
I think it would be hard to screw that up, right.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
But it's do you ever think in the next do
you think in the next day decade we see like
a complete rebrand uh a home and away regular jersey
for the Flames.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Mmmm. It depends on what the rest of the league does.
I'd be surprised. I would too, I really would they
Just like I said, with when you throw in the
blasty along with those originals or renditions of the originals,
it just works so well. I just don't see. Yeah,
I don't see how they get away from that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know, tell me if I'm maybe a little off
based on this. But my one fear now is though,
with fanatics running the jerseys, that they're gonna want to
alter and twist up things frequently to make more money. Hm.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Very possible.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I just tind to know how they operate, right, Yeah,
It's just that that's one fear I have. I'm as traditionalists.
It's uh, I want to I don't mind doing special
things and stuff, but I just I don't know. I
really like where we're at now with our jerseys, and
I think if you ran a poll across the National
Hockey League, I think many people would put us in
(41:08):
the top five to ten for best jerseys in the league. Yep.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh, just and you in most editorials that you see
will say the same thing. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
But I think where as it stands right now, this
is the nicest collection as a whole we've had as
a team. So hopefully some success comes with that.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Oh, we're gonna find out what what happens here in
the next few months with this season, so it's exciting.
It is France. We hope you're enjoying the off season,
and we hope also hope that you enjoy when Kyle
and I do these special edition I don't know what
you'd want to call them, special episodes where we just
(41:47):
talked about different topics and flames history or different topics
around around the Calgary Flames. So they're fun doing it
and we've got a good time doing these special ones,
and we hope you enjoyed them. Two. We also hope
that you're having a great summer and we'll be back
to the rinks and back to the dorm here soon
with Calgary Flames Talk.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Absolutely could agree more. And yeah, the week's time to
slip away. So hopefully, as you're saying, we're you guys
are enjoying this as much as we're enjoy doing it. Well,
we'll be back very soon with you another.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
One soon, Flames. Thanks for listening to Flames Unfiltered with
(42:48):
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