Definitely a Lesbian (Ep. 231)

Zach and Jake talk about Mark Sanchez getting arrested, NFL Week 5 storylines, and rank the best NFL flag football teams.                         

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, don't live to play for sports will save
your day. Jokes with sports inside Zack can shake they
get it right? Fuck you.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Week five it was a crazy week. We still have
Monday night football, but probably the weirdest, the strangest, the
most wild week of football so far, Jake. Is that true?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I think so, and that therefore the best in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I mean, we're all about the chaos and Week five
brought nothing, but I would say there was blowouts, but
a lot of comebacks. Obviously a lot of bad football,
very few, very very little good football. So that was
a huge takeaway. But we will go through our storylines.
That can we do every single week? We settle on

(01:02):
the two biggest storylines. Am I here?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Am I?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Gligen?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
You're here? You paused for a second, but now you're back.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah. I paused on my screen too, which was very odd.
It felt like one of those situations where all time
froze and I was the only one still around it.
It was an interesting situation. Okay, hopefully we sound good.
Hopefully we look good. I mean we look good, but
hopefully we're not frozen. And let's talk about Week five.

(01:28):
So what was your biggest takeaway there was something you
were really hyped up to talk about that you're really
glued in on, or you're obsessed with, or something that
happened in week five.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I actually have two. Okay, here's a spoilers act. Only
one of them's NFL related. Baby takeaway Number one down
goes Penn State. No story bigger in all the football
this week U c LA. As we've always said, first
half team.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, of course, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
They come out. For those who don't know, twenty seven
to seven, I assume can you give me any quotes
that you think happened during the Penn State halftime speech?
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, but I I want to hear your impression of
James Franklin, like, is it are any words not cuss words?
Do you think? I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I in my mind, he's been through this so many
times that he is no longer the ra ra guy.
I feel like he is the one having the mental
breakdown and they're like, coach, it's gotta be okay, we're
gotta beat them. It's U c l A. And he's
the one screaming, crying, sort of looking in the mirror
asking is it me? At this point, I think he
has to have a little self talk here, you know,

(02:39):
a conversation with the man in the mirror. Am I
the problem? And ultimately is James Franklin. So he decides
to no, he is not the problem, but he is
this This game was insane? True? Uh that UCLA coach
is them ever calling an offense and then which is insane.

(03:02):
And then he didn't know how to work the radio.
This is the first time he's ever done it. I'm
not did you hear about this?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I heard that he was having technical difficulties, but I
did not hear the details.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
He didn't he was didn't have it on the right
channel half the time. So he was talking to the
people in the booth if Nico Bliava, their quarterback, was saying, yeah, coach,
I didn't get a play, so I just had to
run something. I just had to make it up myself.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Do you think he was accidentally radioing the other team?
Were there some mind games happening?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Potentially that would be a very good you know, what
are they? Why why would he be running that? This
guy has no idea? What yeah? We yeah, we're tapped
into their radio call. They're gonna run bootleg? Right, what
what the draw? Draw play up the middle. This guy
is lying, this is cheating to present.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
The quarterback knows, so he calls an audible every play.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, I don't think he even to be that creative.
It's just the coach is saying one play, the quarterbacks
coming up with another, and nobody knows what to run.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I like to think so I just like the idea
that the sheer like they lost in overtime to Oregon
right right, and they were down twenty seven to seven
against the Bruins.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Life comes at you fast.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Life does come at you fast and even worse. I mean,
I can't emphasize in Netflix the final score of this
game was thirty seven thirty four. I mean, rest an
absolute clencher, will up yeah, woke Cup. It's the best,
by the way, the best kind of football of all time.
Because you as this was gonna be my question to you,

(04:47):
which you could only be in one. Would you rather
have been in the Penn State locker room to see
the sheer rage and anchor of that halftime speech, or
in the CLA locker room to hear what I can
only assume the pep talk when it couldn't have been guys,
let's keep it up. It had to be Oh Jesus

(05:08):
fucking Christ, what do we do? Like we didn't, okay,
scratch everything that's worked, because they're gonna figure that out.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
We got to come up with a completely new plan.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Guys, we know there's no world. I can't believe we're
up seventeen. They're writing on whiteboards. They're just like, what
do we do now? Right?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah? Yeah, we have to scrap everything. We have to
be a completely different second half team. I know we
didn't run the ball this half. We're running the ball nothing,
but we can't do starters. You're out second team in
Let's give them a completely new look. Can't let them
catch on and then we're fourth quarter. We're gonna flip
it again.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Because and listen, last week, the best part of our
show obviously our rendition of the rules from Fight Club
to bring in another movie reference. I like to think
it's like if Nick Cage's plan from National Treasure was
just to go see the Declaration of Independence and then
he told them what do we do now? We've over succeeded,

(06:02):
Like I didn't expect to be holding it. We're up seventeen.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, now, yeah, every little bit of playing we had
completely out the window. We have to just lie by
the seat of our pants.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Because that dude's never called an offense before.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now he has to kill clock right completely.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's awesome. That's it's we I had to start
there for sure.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Is I can only imagine it's downhill from here for
that guy. He's going to crash and burn. But maybe
it's a insanity situation. Maybe UCLA goes on a run.
Maybe they're feeling themselves the no one can get a
beat on them because he's not thinking like a football coach.
He is just spinning a wheel and calling a play
based on that. Maybe who knows, But that was that

(06:51):
was good. This is something else I thought about about
college football, not related, but since we'rend college football, is
there any better feeling as a sports fan than your
college football team? Maybe college sports in general, but your
college football team. I think in particular, just being a wagan,
I feel like that's the most fun you can have

(07:12):
as a sports fan.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I so I think yes, sustained.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Is because it's different for pro sports. It just is.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Oh, for sure, I'm comparing to other college sports with
I think college basketball, I would say the same. I
think knowing your college basketball team is going to go
but maybe not because you get to thetorney and then
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think it's fun if you're like Wisconsin basketball, the
team the year they went on a run, that's super fun.
But college football is just a different environment too.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
There's certainly no sustained feeling. Like that's the reason that
Bama fans are Bama fans, like they're a wagon every year,
I think is its own feeling. The only thing I
can compare it to is I think the opposite. It's fleeting.
But if your college football team like the rush, the
feel feeling of like I can't believe we just won

(08:11):
this fucking game, like the opposite of like.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
The moment in upsetting the number one seeds.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I was there when kse abu and it was like
I'm gonna live forever, right right, But I took photos
with a bunch of people. They were like, congrats on
the wind, you know, put in my hands. Some people
I'm like, we were this is all team today, just
like Bill ha always says Bill Snyder.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Just like you're right exactly, old coach, but thank you.
Like your team goes on a run. The environment's insane.
All of a sudden, you get college game day coming
to your campus. That's huge, Like just everything around it
continues to go up and up and up and like
there's no end to it until you get upset. But
all of a sudden, you get to a point where

(08:59):
your fans start barking at other teams, like literally barking.
That's great, Like it doesn't matter if you're the bulldogs
or not. I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like, you know, everyone's got a different hand sign on.
Everyone's doing blood with their fingers. It's crazy. Wichita states
out doing sexual innuendoes. No one tell them, by the way.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Just throws everywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Okay, yeah, as long as we're here, this is the
only place that we could ever answer this question because
no one's everyone else is too afraid to ask. Sac. Well,
that's the big one. Is the sexual hand motion named
after the hand sign? Like did the you know, because
they are the shockers, right, So the shaker has found
on Urban Dictionary. You could google it at home. Yeah,

(09:47):
it has to be named after their hand sign. That's
interesting because it's called the shaker. I might think that
someone from Wichita found out that that was effective. I
think they were just a really big fan.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
What happened first, because I understand why it's called the chakra,
But did they do it because they're like, oh, we're
also shockers, let's start doing it.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Or it was just like or is it just like uh,
people were already doing it and then someone popularized the
name and they're like, well, is the same motion that
which Dastate does or is it all just Fred van Fleet?
It might be.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I mean, that's a very that's a that's a decent point.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't know. Let's let's let's do to you at home.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, you know what, Randy, it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think we should put it on the pole.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Since our first fallback. And can the poll be what
came for? A shocker? Or shocker that's not the way
to word it, but it's this is insane because I've
always been struck. It's called that, folks. So you know,
I don't make the rules. I work at a university.
These things come up.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's very true. That's very true. So I am creating
the poll right now which came first, and we'll go
hashtag Larry Sports pod and choice one should be shockers
and choice two will be shocker.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Of course, are you gonna give any clarification?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I am not. I think people understand people are listening.
So the shockers, obviously, if you're on the inside, that's
what chita, yeah, or the shockers. The shocker, as everyone knows,
is the headside that everyoney used will be the shockers use,
and that the people who are you know, shocking people
in the bedroom are also doing.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
But which came first? Or is it called that because
of that? Was it a shocking hand motion? Was it
a surprise?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
See it's a chicken in the egg situation. I don't know.
I'm not sure, but I think this is a good
gateway back into throwing things to the poll. So at
Fantasy Flurry on Twitter, go ahead and vote and we
will maybe next week or maybe the end of the show,
we'll check in. That'll be a nice little way to
end the show, especially for that specific poll. But now

(12:19):
let's talk NFL Week five.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, what was your biggest storyline?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, ja, I think my biggest storyline was before NFL
Sunday even happened. There was an interesting game in Indianapolis
that the broadcasters were coming to town early for in
that was Mark Sanchez fumble Rusky not fumble Rusky butt
fumble quarterback, the last good Jets quarterback, which is weird

(12:49):
to say.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I suppose, right, Yeah, I guess with technically Sam Donald
though everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I mean, Rogers is the best good quarterback the
Jets have had.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
But you're good that the last one to be good there.
Yeah it's Mark.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Sanchez, right right. AFC Championship. Yeah, but how the mighty
have fallen last year? Mark Mark Sanchez masked singer on
top of the dude can sing. That's great. He's a
sports commentator of football in the booth commentator. He's rising
the ranks, He's doing things that are outstanding, and everyone

(13:26):
thinks of Mark Sanchez as one of the greatest, nicest
people of all time. And then we find out Mark
Sanchez was stabbed in Indianapolis and everyone's heartbroken. We've got
Dan Rolofsky saying this is the nicest guy I've ever met.
One week after saying Tyreek Kill is such a good guy.
Dan Arlovsky says Mark Sanchez, I'd give I'd take a

(13:47):
bullet for this man because of how nice he is.
Quite double, you know, good take after good take from Arlovsky.
Everyone's saying this is unbelieva, the thoughts and prayers to
Mark Sanchez, how can somebody do this to him?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
But then Jake, this was a crazy by the way,
six hours, Like I feel like this developed fast.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And still developing. We find out Mark Sanchez was in
an altercation. It's like, okay, yeah, sure, sure, I mean
that's how he got stabbed, I suppose. But then it's like, okay,
he was drunk. Okay, So it's like a bar fight.
That's weird, that's fine. I mean, people get in bar
fights all the time. It's with a seventy year old
man or so okay, So Mark Sanchez potentially lost a

(14:32):
fight with a seventy year old man. That I mean,
that makes sense for Mark. He's not going to be
the one, you know, initiating it. Maybe the guy got
a cheap shot on him.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, this is on the streets, it's not in the bar.
The guy was in a box truck.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
That was the part that got me. Yeah, yeah, he
was in a vehicle.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So Mark Sanchez tried to get into the car and
shit ensued. Is over a parking spot. And then now
fast forward, he's getting charge with the felony battery. It's
sounds like Mark Sanchez is the one to blay. We
got the cops from Indianapolis. City of Indianapolis saying, we

(15:13):
don't care who you are, we don't care who you
work for, we don't care what you've done. If you
come to our city and you disrespect us, we're gonna
punish you with every bit of the law as we can.
So now Indianapolis is essentially saying fuck you outsider to
market Sanchez and keep saying Mark Andrews in my head.
So if you notice I have a bit of a rage,

(15:35):
it's because I'm thinking about Mark Andrews. But Sanchez took
over the NFL weekend. He's still front page on ESPN
because he is drunkenly fighting over a parking spot in
critical condition because he got stad because of it by
a seventy year old man, and his court hearing is

(15:55):
in November. He had faces up to six years of
jail time. He's not gonna get it. But this, I mean,
this was the biggest story of the.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I mean there's no doubt. Yeah, especially because like I
can't stress enough that I think there are people who
are still learning that this was Mark Sanchez's fault.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Right, Yeah, I think people were still in doubts like, okay,
that's weird. Men's like oh, he's charged with a with
a felony. Okay, interesting, and.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
He was stabbed allegedly. I want to protect myself legally
here in self defense, right, Mark Andrew. Mark Sanchez is
in the rock. Mark Andrews also in the wrong, different reasons.
Mark Sanchez, uh, the drunken guy fighting over a parking
spot with a seventy year old man who was in
a box truck. By the way, there's a lot of

(16:48):
little things to take away here. If I did something
wrong and someone stabbed me, once we're good, I don't
need fuck more to be like, oh, okay, I'm good.
Or do you think it was just like he's gotta
be quicker than that, he's a former NFL athlete.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I'm not okay. It's here's the thing from from everything
I know, and it sounds like there's pepper spray in
vault too. So this is how I assume happened.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Right. We know the guy who's in a box truck
in the parking spot that Mark Sanchenz wanted, and we
know Mark Sanchez was trying to break into the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
These are the things that we know. So I assume
he broke probably smashed a window, pulled the door door
open trying to do that, got pepper sprayed. Yeah, he's flailing.
You know, it's a small space, it's a door opening.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So he's playing.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
And then the guy's like this NFL player who is
forty years younger than me.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, he's sixty nine years old.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, so that now the guy's like, he got stabbed,
so box truck. I'm assuming box cutter. So now he's
a box cutter, and he's probably yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
About the same thing. And I didn't know why, but
it's because it was a box truck. Yeah. I was
a magic box cover this all time.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, I assume that's what it is. So it's a
bunch of very thin slices on Mark Sanchez's body.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Since he's sixty nine, I imagine all the cuts. He
got stabbed six times on.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
The hand probably probably. Yeah, they keep saying critical condition,
that's not true.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You probably got it. This was my other big question
for you. Okay, at what point do you think this guy,
if ever realized it was Mark Sanchetz.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
He's not that recognizable, is he?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
I was sinking stabbed three?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Did he ever play in Indye? Did he ever make
his way there? He went to Chicago? I think obviously Jets.
I don't think he ever went to Indy, but that
would be the only way I think anyone would recognize him,
because he was what USC and then Jets or.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
He played on six teams in the NFL. See if
you can guess him.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Wow, Okay, so Jets, Bears.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, that's by the way, you've already skipped several between
those two. I wrong, Bird, Cardinals, Yeah, two years of
the Eagles back up? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Boy, was he a charter at any point?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
He was not. I think I'm gonna give you the
other three because I don't Broncos, Cowboys, those both happened
in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Was he a practice squad guy? Is that what they're counting?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I must be? And then oh, yes, Broncos practice squad
only or offseason only? Cowboys he's fully on the roster. Bears,
he's fully on the roster. And then last year twenty eighteen,
then Washington Redskins.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Okay, thank you, je Jeff was all over with the Eagles. Yeah,
I completely forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, but I just a celebrity comes at you. You're
seventy years old, and I just wonder if at any
point he was like butt fumble, Like when did it
hit him?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean I assume, I mean Sanchez is upset, he's drunk.
I assume he brought up the butt fumble. I feel
like he's still upset and yelling about that getting something.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's why he tried to break in. He was like,
did you just say butt fumble? And Guy's like, no,
I didn't mention it.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
He called him Rex while he was crying and trying
to hit him too.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
He's awesome saying I see ghosts every former Jets quarterback
SE's ghosts.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I mean, I think that's very fair Rogers for different reasons,
but yeah, I think that was the biggest story. It's
still I mean, there's still things coming out about it,
I suppose, but in terms of ESPN if we want
to talk about them in terms of like gauging what
the biggest sports stories are, which I suppose is very

(21:01):
not a great way to measure it. But that's the
number two. It's number two in top headlines.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is number one Eagles.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Number one is marine. Hampton just got put on IR,
which is fair.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Very fair the Eagles and they're blatant attempt to be
like we could pass, and failing was like the serious
one I thought about doing, but I didn't want to
do a serious one. I have a second one, Zach,
and it's the NFL thing I was alluding to appreciow
that I can't stop thinking about the team I'm obsessed with. Okay,

(21:37):
it's built for this show people, Okay, it is a
storyline to follow for the Sickos, and that storyline is
something's happening in Carolina, don't I don't know for sure
what it is, but it needs Rico Dado rushed for
two hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You sure dead? And it's the NFL is so good
at what it does because now he's no spotlights on him,
and they got to be like, Rico, You're incredible. What's next?
He's like them boys and Dallas are about to pay.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
That's right. He shot.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Sets up so perfectly. Jerry's gonna have to eat it again.
Fuck you, Jerry, down your throat. You think your rud
defense got better with Kenny Clark trading away Micah Parsons,
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Rowdy. Rico Rowdy Dowdy is unbelievable. He's not Chuba Hubbard.
I can't stress this enough that there's so many stats
I wanted to highlight a Chuba Hubbard Already, Rico Dawdell
is forty yards behind Chuba Hubbard's year total after one game. Right,

(22:48):
So that's crazy. So get ready for Rico uh B
Bryce Young I he has not had one game this
season with a passing rating average. No, he's bad, bad, bad,
really bad. He can't not throw picks. I don't know
what's happening there at all. Tate McMillan is a top

(23:10):
five targets leader in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Xavier Legett finally got on the board this weekend.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
He just came back one hundred Renfros, reviving his career
there somehow.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
So I'll just give you the answer. It's gonna ask
who do you think second in targets is for the
Panthers this year? For passes, it's Renfro. It's like forty
three targets for McMillan, twenty four for Renthrow, then all
the way down to Xavier like twelve.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well, yeah, he's played. I mean, I think that was
his second game, right, so he'll and then Jalen Kolcher
comes back next week. Probably what's happening, and like they're bad.
It's just not a well constructed team.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
But Zach, do you know, like, yes, they are bad,
just their scores. Like they shut out the Falcons. I'm
not sure how that happened, but they and I.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Listen, I know quality of team is a thing, but
like they beat the Dolphins twenty seven, twenty four, they
got beat forty two to thirteen against New England. They
shut out the Falcons thirty to nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That was insane.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
They've lost by five twenty two, twenty seven to the Cardinals,
Like what's going on?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think they haven't played anybody good,
but they played tough. They're they I think I don't
think they're that badly coached. I kind of like their coach, Jeffrey.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I think you're all over. We don't know for sure.
I think I think we have to look at the weapons.
What I know for sure, we were the first show
this a von Miller was up to something. I'll say
it here first, Carolina up to something.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't think their receiving corp is that bad? By
the way, I saw last last year the receiving corps
was worse, and we saw Andy Dalton laid it up.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I think if Daniel Jones is on this team, they're undefeated.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I mean you can say that about any team.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Maybe it's a bad that's our MVP I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
So him or Baker take one to be Josh Allen again, Well,
there's one scenario of the NFL is building up to that.
It could not be Josh Allen. Oh what do you
think Lamar Jackson? Oh, they did him dirty last year.
I assume he's out this week. I assume they lose

(25:32):
it's to the Rams, then there's a bye week. So
we're saying the one in four or one in five
it could be. But are we saying the one in
five Baltimore Ravens If they make the playoffs, which I
think they probably still will, that's Lamar Jackson written all
over it. And by the way, if they do that,

(25:56):
you know what else they gotta do. They gotta give
John Harbaugh, who everybody thinks should have been playing their
coach of the air. Yes, why wouldn't they.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Because they're going to give it to who's ever coaching
Carolina by the way, don't know, not sure.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
No one, nobody does. I I thought you were going
to say a different team. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm obsessed with the Panthers. This is a real thing.
Zach and I did one year at Christmas. We got
really obsessed with a crab dip that was and I
can't put enough emphasis on this.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Fine, yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
It was okay, there's nothing it was. It was supposed
to be hot and they didn't plug it in, so
it was lucis. It was supposed to be cheddar crabbed.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's supposed to be like a crab rangoon diph.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Crabrang goons dip, but they didn't have cream cheese, so
they used cheese. Whiz yep, close And it wasn't bad.
It was a perfect five out of ten. Yeah, give
or take yeah, depending on the person who was a
four the six. It was perfectly average. I every time
I take a bite to the Carolina Panthers, I get

(27:05):
something different. It all comes out fine. They are an
enigma to me. They're listening to it's like listening to
Bony Bear. Do I like you? Am I confused? Am I?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Sad.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Are you good?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's fair, that's fair. I mean, that's I'm obsessed several teams.
I think you could talk about that with I thought
you were gonna say that you were obsessed with the
Tennessee Titans. I'm not gonna lie. I think the way
they won that game I was insane.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
But I know what happened there. It doesn't make sense
that it's this inconsistent. I don't know. And why is
Carolina good? Rinco Daldles had one good game and he's
calling out Dallas.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
You were over they played the Dolphins. No, I said
in the NFL I.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Almost for the show said you're not allowed to say
it's because of the Dolphins, because it's not fun. They
shut out the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
The Dolphins are one of the biggest dumpster fires of
all time, and it's possibly my greatest call of all time.
They are as bad as you can get. It's not
because they're the least talented team. They're just the worst.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I just here's you are so correct. I think I'm
in love with the Panthers because I truly know nothing
about them. It's like when you meet a goal at
a party and it's like she a terrible person. Ye know,
you're just like a walk Fine, It's like I don't
know if she's pretty.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And I don't understand being an enigma because the shutout
of the Falcons is possibly the weirdest game of the year.
It's one of them. Yeah, but then they have they are.
If you measure each team by name value, they have
to be last.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
They must be their highest value. Guy is save you
look at because of accent?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Probably Jeremy Chin, but sure not Chin, not Chin, not Chin.
He's not there. I was like, you can't be true.
It's true Bryce Young. No, it's not Bryce Young. I mean,
everybody knows Bryce Young. But even still, even out of

(29:13):
all the people who know Bryce Young's name, not everyone
has even seen him play football. What is who am
I thinking of? Okay, bringing up their depth chart and
we will dissect their depth chart, or who has the
most name value?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I am tracking your questions. We're gonna get to him.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I was thinking of J. C. Horn, so he's the
most has the most name value in my opinion. However,
you could argue there isn't one other. I mean, I
don't think you can name one other player on their defense.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, I could name anybody on their defense.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Now, you would like Derek Brown, but I don't think
you would have named him.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
No, I almost said Brian Burns.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
They probably should still have him offense. I mean, let
to be completely real, who has the most named value
on this Panthers team? Sreco Dubell?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Now did Rowdy Dowdy? I it is, It's unbelievable. It's
not the storyline the week. But I'm obsessed with the
Panthers currently.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, I mean, fair enough, fair enough. Their kicker is
Ryan Fitzgerald, which feels odd. That feels like it's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I didn't know Larry had a kid.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
All right, Yeah, I'm sure he looks just like him.
The other storyline I have written down. I think I
only wrote down Oh, I wrote down three okay, so
dirty Sanchez obviously has got to be there. I wrote
down comeback chaos. There was six double digit comeback wins. Yeah,
which is the most sense or there's just been the
most comebacks in general, I think since like nineteen seventy

(30:56):
it's been insane. But yeah, six teams were down by
double digits at one point to come back and win.
The Bills almost made it seven which is insane. And
then the other thing I said was, and this is
such a sports headline of me, this would be at
the bottom ticker on first take, I suppose. So I

(31:17):
hate myself a little bit for writing it down this way,
but I wrote down home field disadvantage, which is true.
This week, let me see how many road teams won?
Pretty much all of them. Okay, so Niners beat the Rams, Bikings, Browns,
Vikings technically the away team, they were overseas. The Colts

(31:40):
won at home. That's one went at home. The Saints
won at home. But then the Cowboys won on the road.
The Broncos won on the road, the Panthers won at home.
The Texans went on the road, the Titans went on
the road, the Buccaneers won on the road. Lions won
on the road, the Commanders went on the road, the
Patriots went on the road. So we got three home wins,

(32:00):
and those three home wins were the strong crowds of
New Orleans, Indianapolis, and Carolina. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I I think that the NFL has never had less
emphasis on home field advantage ever, true, that's true. I
think there are like, honestly, is there any stadium left
besides like God, Arrowhead and who else that. It's like,

(32:36):
I feel like there's a significant difference.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think potentially Gillette if they're good now, which I
think they will be. Packers know Lions got loud last
year for playoffs. If they can do that for regular season.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Games, maybe Lions are good and like, but see this
is oh god, this is old man, expall football take
The only thing with the lines is like, my head
still goes. But I get to play you indoors.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Sure you know their field stinks though, so you could
get hurt. That's honestly, metlife's a great advantage. If you
know where all the terrible spots on the field are,
you could take knees all day long. Steelers isn't bad,
I Steelers isn't bad. Still the worst tradition in sports, but.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Second worst, you know my opinion on the worst tradition
in sports.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I was waving to the sick kids or yeah, it's
not a.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Tradition, it's just a thing we should all do, just
to say out loud. It be like my tradition is
being nice to strangers.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Even still, even the sick kids would say, pick a
better song than renegade. Why am I losing my mind
to renegade?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah? It also just makes you think like, if you
could be waving to the kids all the time, isn't
any responsible to highlight the one time you do? Should
we be why once again?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah? True, we should do it every down? Why not.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Terrible talent least does that? It's constant.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I don't consider this a tradition, even though they desperately
want it to be. But rising the ranks quickly if
they try to make it a thing, more is the
bill is doing? Mister Brightside, you missed it. Stop trying
to make it a think that's not your tradition? Why
in twenty twenty? I think they started last year twenty
twenty four? Mister Brightside is awesome? Yeah it is, but

(34:33):
you're late. You don't get that now I do.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
But isn't there what's the niche? How old do we
have to go where that's charming?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
If they do it for fifty more years, great, But.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I'm saying like if a team un ironically came out
and was like, guys, crazy train pretty good?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean crazy Train would be fun. So like, what
year for the song to be popular?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
You mean?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, yeah, like, at what point is it so far
back that it's charming that they just discovered that song.
Like if a team came out.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And they're like, there's pockets, Yeah, there's pocket man.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Pretty good.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
But if you go, I mean anything further back than
what ninety four let's just say, yeah, would be, it's
far enough back where it's like, okay, whatever, like fair game,
all aboard. But then there's a couple of pockets for like, yeah, boo,
there's a couple of pockets earlier than that, because like

(35:38):
if you did a song from twenty twenty, that's weird,
Like okay, that just feels like it's a little bit outdated.
But there's a weird pocket of like twenty fourteen, twenty
fifteen where nothing really happened in the world off the
top of my head, where it's like, what what did
I do for a full year in twenty fourteen and
nobody knows Mad Dregan's lived there if you had to

(36:00):
call me maybe I think in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen.
It's a weird one. If a team started to do that.
It's also a type of song like Mister Brad'side's overplayed,
We Love it, but it's overplayed to just be like,
now we're also adopting it after every other time.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
We're also doing this because my brain went, I just
heard this song on to TikTok today. If a team
started unironically coming out to we didn't start the fire
by Billy Joel fucking electric, that's all. If we don't
talk about it enough, you know, Hey, but the effect
you were talking about, by the way, is when Weezer
covered Africa.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, not a great cover either. You gotta if you're
gonna do it, you gotta smash it. You have any
no doubts that like put Toto to shame, did not
do that?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, Jeff, By the way, great call the dog Pound
is a disadvantage because they just do I mean all
the time.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Same with the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I said, Philly's gotta figure it out. How are we
like I'm hearing people today, be like, no one's got
it worse than Philadelphia. I'm like eight not true, be like,
can't be tearing ourselves apart. Like they're still the best
team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's crazy they are, and everyone's talking about they get
to do a hard reset now now that they lost
Monkeys off their back, which.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
By the way, I won the last undefeated you did.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Dude, is scheduling you lasted like fourish hours longer than
I did.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
That sucks. I literally have that thought of like, wait,
does that mean I would no matter what I yeah, scheduling,
there you go. We gurlered. That would have been flipped.
I think.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
True, that is true. But yeah, I don't know. Do
you have any other storylines from well?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
If I had to pick serious ones, you've covered him,
I I would have picked. I don't know if I
would have been as broad as you on the comebacks,
but specifically the Buccaneers Seahawks game was insane.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I think I just want to talk Baker's insane.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Baker. Dude. Sam Donald is out here both looking impressive
and duplicitous, like I don't believe you. I don't believe you,
Sam Donald. I can't. By the way, especially now that
you're in Seattle. All I see is Matt Flinn. Every
time I see you throw, I'm like, you're not good.

(38:30):
It can't be true, but he's Baker Mayfield is the
only thing Baker Mayfield can't do is win by twenty points.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's impossible. He gets too comfortable. But if Baker gets
there's a clip, true, there's the clip of a Seahawks
fans chirping at Baker before the game, getting them all
riled up, just like shaking the cage with the dog
inside of it. Like, I'm not sure why anyone's doing
that at this point anymore. But Baker's playing pissed off.

(38:57):
He's playing out of his freaking mind. I don't know
if he can hold up for a full season because
he's been getting hit left and right. But right now,
the Buccaneers are a wagon. And for Sam Donald, he
played well, and he's played well this season. But if
you pass for five hundred yards and a loss, did
you pass for five hundred or dollar? You know, like,
I don't care how well you play. If you lose,

(39:19):
it's crazy, it does not matter.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I'm trying to go through these. Jeffrey had some ones.
I guess we could throw them in here. Let's just
do it this way. Agree, disagree. Jalen Hurts is the
most overrated quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Probably not most, but he's up there for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
He's not great, but I don't think he can be
overrated if no one thinks he's that good a thrower.
That's true.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Everyone's arguing against like, no one's making the argument that
he's a great quarterback. I don't think has anyone come
out and said that he's.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Definitely not underrated. So I understand what you're getting at.
The most overrated quarterback in the NFL, in my opinion,
is justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
He's up there, he's up there, everyone likes him, so
he gets the pass, so it doesn't count that bye.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
By the way, people, that by its definition should be
where we're looking for most overrated things everyone likes.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I mean that would be Baker right.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
And by the way, fair because true he's I mean
right now though he's in that Yeah, that touchdown run
to the right, then all of a sudden flip back
to the left mid air.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That was a thing of beauty. Early most overrated Jordan Love.
People still tell me that I'm an idiot for seeing
Jordan Love's not that good.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
So I think you are probably going to be proven
right on that. Do the forty nine ers stay with
Mac or go back to brock Purty. Mac Jones, by
the way, should retire and just be should you were
Sanders agent. He's very good at answering questions he is.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
It was I don't like the way Mac handled himself
after the game, even though it was that he handled
himself well, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Wanted answer like Rico Taddle. I wanted to come out
of here and be like, I'm gonna let him know, dude.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think they're gonna let brock
Purty rest as long as he needs to rest. The
issue is Mac Jones can't walk right now because he's
so beat up. So I don't think he stays as
the starter because of that. But we know Kyle Shanahan
wanted to draft him. He wanted him over Trey Lance.
He wanted him over brock Purty at one point as well,

(41:25):
so like he's got his guy now. Shanahan's perfectly content
the person who wants Perdy to play Lynch because Lynch
made the decision to pay him and Lynch gets his
way there. He just does and he should. But perty
he'll get his job back. But I'm not ruling out

(41:45):
niur Spin. He's out for at least next week.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, I think that's a good good call. Also, Jeffery
just hop him back in. I assume you're still talking
about Jalen hurts people putting him in top five conversation,
that's fair. Like if you if if your consideration is
people considering him a top five QB to be overrated,
then yeah, I would say he probably is overrated because
I think a lot of people put him up there.

(42:11):
The only thing I would say is I have him
pretty close to there. And the only thing is, like,
take this week for example, he should not be losing
you football games, Like I don't look at this week
and go, hey, Jalen, make better decisions. I go, why
was that your game plan? And it's it's I.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Wouldn't put I wouldn't wouldn't put the loss on him
this week. But he's not also not the guy to
play outside the game plan in the meaning a game.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I agree. I think, Yeah, how much credit are you
giving how big his thighs are? Though? Have you thought
of that? Have you considered that in your argument? Because
his thighs are pretty big.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I've heard he can squat like six hundred pounds and
it's a fact that it's delightful to hear every time,
much like and I've missed it. So we need to
get a Wisconsin badger in the booth for Cowboys games,
because I haven't heard that. Jake Ferguson is, uh, what's
this Elvarez's nephew in a while, our grandson in a while.

(43:12):
It's kind of like, it's kind of like, did you
know Troy fu mcgally's got the word?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
God damn it, you got there before I did. He's
missing a fucking figure ship. Yeah, yeah, where is he?
By the way, you never say that about Jason Berre
Paul true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
If you're gonna say it about fu mcgally, saying about
him and tell us, why.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Give us a PSA about the fourth of July. I
h Jeff, By the way, thanks for being so active
in the chat. It's nice to hear that. I think,
Zach that I would like to get to the wheel.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Did we settle on the second storyline?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Oh? No, outside? Oh, I I think we did.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I I like your the comebacks or is it the
home field disadvantage?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Oh? Comebacks? It's the second one. I would say.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Okay, okay, so six double digit?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Oh okay, Jeff, you mentioned this first. We should talk
about this. I think I'm in the minority from the
conversation I've heard. I liked dealing Gabriel's debut. That's the
question in the chat, what did we think about it?
I agree with your initial comment, which is I give
a lot of credit to the Vikings defense, and I
watched how rugged, let's say, Joe Flacco has looked on

(44:36):
that offense. So while I didn't think Gabriel looked perfect,
I think the combination of like playing a good defense
and improving from what I've seen, I'm hopeful. I don't
understand people being not hopeful after it, but I get
people being cautiously critical.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I didn't think he played very well. But that's the
thing with Joe Flacco is there's of true of Dylan Gabriel.
I hate that. But the thing with Joe Flackle, there's
twenty years a tape on him for all of his tells,
to know exactly what he does, how he reached the defense,
for the defense to just find all those little ticks.
They know all of that. But Dylan Gabriel, he didn't

(45:17):
do anything. By the book, he did nothing well. His
eyes were all over the place. And that's good for
when you're starting a couple of weeks. It's bad if
you're a full time starter. So I think he could
be decent for a little bit here, but I assume
we see Shadur before the end of the season, and
assuming Shadur doesn't overly impress. I think the Browns draft

(45:40):
are starting quarterback next year. I think they're going to
take another one.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Which is crazy. I don't even think it's a bad
time for Shadur that they played Gabriel first. I think
he's something they had to.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
There's no way they could play Shouldar first that sense.
If they played Shudar first, that means they're never playing
dyl On Gabriel once.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
It might be the only one who found his I
can't even say with the straight face, might be the
only one who found tactics somewhat.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Charminges I didn't find it charming. I didn't think it
was funny, though I thought it was a little funny.
I here's what I was pissed off at first until
I knew the context.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh, I think it's fair to be pissed off even
with the context.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Like with the context of thing's funny. I mean, I mean,
you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Like because what fans are getting it, I understand, I
understand you are thinking of it as like we are
team investing in you and you have nothing but bad
press and you do another thing that's not gonna look good,
like that's it's the Tebow effect. Yes, and also like
stop digging. I understand the concept of like you need

(46:51):
to build goodwill, like don't do bits.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I get it right.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It was funny though for people who don't know, I
think it was Rex Ryan but multiple people I'm sure
said I don't need to hear from the third string quarterback.
I don't want to hear what he thinks or anything
like that. So the reporters still went to go talk
to Shugar what do you think about this? And stuff
like that and should hear instead of talking, just voiced
mouthed the worst. So then Rex Rydan couldn't hear from

(47:20):
the third string quarterback. I just saw the clip from
the reporter tweeted out with no other context, like what's
this fucking loser doing? Like it really pissed me off,
But then it's like, okay, with the context, I think
it's funny. Still he's doing too much. He's still doing
too much. That's it's funny.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
But the reason I thought it was somewhat charming, for
me is it's somewhat If it was, I can't even
defend it. I just kind of was like, Okay, he's
somewhat taking feedback like I was like in it, I
could argue, you're poking fun at yourself a little bit um.
Yeah yeah, but also should do times are tough, my man,

(48:06):
for you in particular, like we can't be just answer
the goddamn questions and go home. We wouldn't have even
brought it up.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, be boring, do what you gotta do. That's what
he needs to do. Be as boring as possible. Focus
on football. Then he'll get a shot.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
By the way, I think there's a real chance he
comes out as just good.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
He's not a bad player. I think he's better than
Dan gabriel Is. I don't think he's outstanding. But my boy,
he knows football. He's played a lot of football. He
knows football.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Is this fair? Is this fair? Who is the what's
the realm of likability? Where if this quarterback did the
same thing she do or did, we would have been like,
you're the best?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
What what's the lion?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah? Because there are some quarterbacks it's like, let me
think of it, really like Rogers does that. People still
get back because it's Rogers, I guess.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But like Justin Herbert does it, people love it. Payne Manning,
Payn Manning obviously, I mean people Herbert has done stuff
like this and people loved it.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, Joe, Joe Flacco does this. It's the greatest moment
of all time.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
It's true. That's true. If Joe did it, people would
love it.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Josh Allen can't do anything Jamish.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
People would thank you for much parade.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Thank you for saying Jamis because I was like, is
it a race thing? It's Okayvian is it? But I
just wanted to know. But it's doccau. It would have
been It would have been funny if Jamis did it too.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Jamis was fed a w from Jackson Art the other day.
By the way, little celebration.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
They've got a weird dynamic.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I love it. We need Jamis needs to be I mean,
someone needs a trade for him. But the Bengals probably
should go trade for Jameis Winston if you want to
live at this point, Jamis chucking at eighty yards to
Jamar Chase, I say this, you're a first rounder for it.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yeah, And by the way, I say this is someone
who's biased because I have both Jake Browning and this
next guy on my bench. How fucking bad can Mike
White be? Dude, give Mike White a shot. What do
we do it?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I will say, if Mike White is in the game
for the Bengals, zero passes go to Jamar Chase and
thirty go to Chase Brown, it's just gonna be tight end,
tight end, running back, running back, running back, running back,
and then he'll throw it fifty yards past Jamar Chase.
It's like, gotta keep him honest, and then he peppers
the running back again.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
It's a real conversation. He could be that bad, but yeah,
Jamis come back to the Browns. Maybe I don't know.
Is Teddy Bridgewater playing somewhere. He's back up somewhere to Tampa,
back up to Baker. Maybe, yeah, he can start for somebody.
At this point, you can start for anybody. Jake Browning

(51:03):
is crazy. He's bad. We've we've found it. He's terrible.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I don't know if I agree. I don't think he's terrible.
I don't think he's that bad. I think I think
Zach Uh not Zach Brown. He's got a band What
the fuck's the head coach's name, Zach Taylor. I think
he's bad. I think their offensive line is terrible.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
That really got me. I'm so sorry, Zach.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I had to get it out of my head, like
I can't get past it. Okay, let's spin the wheel.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Here we go. Can I give Will Levis by the way,
that's my last one. I want Will Levis in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I mean, he's not playing this series out for the year.
Here we go, let's spend the wheel.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Spin the wheel.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I had to get as loud as I could to
make it a transition. We had to go as quickly
as possible. Every week, we're spinning the wheel and ranking
the top ten NFL teams based on could form the
best bom bom bom bom bom bom boom flag team. Okay,
so we're going best flag football team based on just

(52:10):
that NFL team. Okay, okay, okay, So let's assume I
mean usually it's seven on seven. Let's just assume quarterback,
three receiver, running back. Probably yeah, are we thinking offense
and defense or no?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
You gotta cover somebody, I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Okay, seven on seven, So we got quarterback, we got
we're thinking NFL street rules. So we got a safety
probably playing wide receiver as well. We got a linebacker
playing offensive line, you know stuff like that. So, okay,
are we assuming all teams are healthier all teams? I mean,
we gotta assume as they are now, right.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
As they are now, so that we can't just say
the Ravens nice, well Ravens.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Mmm, I don't, I don't. Are we Is it based
on this week? Because like I understand not ranking Joe
Burrow in the Bengals because he's out for the year essentially,
but Lamar's back in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
He's not right now that I think you got to
do current.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Okay, Okay, fine, fine. How high are the Panthers on
your list, Jake.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I'm pretty low. Oh but do you tell me you're
not just gonna hand it to Rico Duo ten times?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
That would be the biggest asshole team of all times.
We're just gonna run the ball. We know the Eagles
are up there.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
We know the Eagles are up there. I my first
pick was the commander's.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Commanders are good. I mean, if you're saying Terry mclaurin's
not there, so it's Debo. It's yeah, but Daniels who
can't run, it's zach Ertz. I don't know if they're
up there.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
You're trying to give you with the health thing, I
understand it. But they're more he's there, he's more healthy there.
Mclaurin's not I I hear you. I'm not saying they're one.
You don't think they're anywhere in the top ten. No, okay, okay,
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Uh, Debo and Luke McCaffrey make your list.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Oh, I mean Deebo does.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Okay, I'll put them at ten for I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yeah, I mean you know that's the sheah dude.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Raiders, Uh, we'll see, we'll see Raiders.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Vikings have to be because of their receivers.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Yeah, Vikings are in there for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Baker has to be there, yep. Um Bears.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Bears are good because of their receivers. Well, your receiver
core thing is good.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I think Calum could be a decent flag quarterback.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah. Just I mean Jared Goff feels like he was
built for flag football.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yes, can't get hit pressure, yes, falcons. Oh yeah, think
good receivers.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Then lower end for the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
But yeah, okay, I mean based on these teams, they're
better than those two.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Okay, we'll talk about the Raiders. I understand the Commanders, Gino,
and maybe I'm obsessing over gent.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Yeah, in a flag football, you don't run the ball.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
In flag football, it's all it's receivers.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
He's gonna get on the slot. You're not gonna get
past that stiff farm and then on the defensive side
you've got Crossby. I'm just gonna max Crosby was built
for flag football.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Uh kind of, he still has to wait three Mississippis though.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It's true, but god damn it, that's very funny. Okay,
why do I want to say the Jaggs, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
You tell me. Because Travis Hunter can play both sides,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, but I mean true. But I just was like,
Travis Hunter etn out of this. You know, he's getting
catching balls, he's not running, and I think Trevor Lawrence
is pretty good in that.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
He would be better in that format for sure.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, he's got the air for it. He's got flag
football hair, he does.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Are we ruling out Bengals because I think Bengals are Okay?
Because they don't have to block anybody.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, I think Bengals are there.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Okay, Niners, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Get the Commanders out of there, that's fine, and maybe
the Raiders too, if you want, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Chargers are probably up there, right.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, Bills are for sure, are they? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Just with the.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I think with their receivers, like maybe not. I guess
maybe I'm putting too much stock in Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
So I think Josh Allen gets neutralized in the flag
format a little bit. I think everybody's Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
That's true. Okay, take him out. There's no advantage of
being fucking huge.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I suppose that's why I'm a little weirded out about Mahomes,
Like maybe he's up there, maybe he's not.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, but it is. Travis Kelsey the best flag football
player in the NFL at this point, like he he
might be really good at it. And Xavier Worthy if
he's oh god, what's his health status? He's playing tonight?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, yeah he's not. He wouldn't get hit in this format,
you know.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, that's good. Hollywood Brown.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Rogers could put it anywhere, which is good, and d
km Metcalf would be pretty terrifying in this, but they
don't have anybody else. Yeah, but then you still have
the defensive guys.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
All right, one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
I think we're good with where we're at. We can
kind of talk about there, but we're not obviously missing somebody.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Unless you think Stafford DeVante Puca.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I think Stafford's really bad at play football at this point,
and I don't love their defense playing this.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I would rather have Pittsburgh in there because Jalen Ramsey
feels like he wants to play flag football.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I think Steelers could be fine defensively. I don't think
anybody could stop the ring. I think in terms of
just their offense, the Rams would be number one out
of anybody.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
All right, go ahead, but we'll pull them up. We'll
talk them through because I can see him being out
some of the ones up there.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Because Stafford is arguably the most accurate quarterback in the NFL.
And then Davante and Puca can get open immediately.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Okay, Yeah, Now we're going to rank these the top
ten teams who would have the best flayed football teams
seven on seven. I think you can take the Raiders
out because we've got too many.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, we got okay, we have too many now.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Boy, I agree with the argument for them, but I
would say of the ones up here, Falcons.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Like I assuming coach is drawing up plays for them. Yes, okay,
So I think Vikings are in because of O'Connell. Bears
are in, Buck's gotta be. Bears are in.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Rams. You've convinced me on the Rams.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Folt's gotta be in because of Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Obviously, he's really good. Pittman's gonna flag football.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yeah, I think Pittman would be good. I think Josh
Downs would be all right. Rookie Tyler Tyler Warren, Yeah,
he's insane. Yeah, Jamie Gimms would probably be insane. I
think I like your idea about Jared Goff too.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah, and I'm en ra is really good at this. Yeah.
Williams doesn't understand flake football. He keeps hitting.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Also, the trick plays because they got Isaac teslat he
was a college quarterback. That could be fun. I think
you could take Kyle Pitts Okay. I think Kyle Pitts
and Drake London could be very, very good receivers.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I agree, I'm just looking at the team's left, but
I don'ts.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Of those four just gonna take one out?

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, and I think I would lean. I don't disagree
with you on the Falcons, but I think I guess
I would go Falcons or Chargers. I think the arguments
for the Bengals receiving corps too high in this format,
and like picking and choosing, picking and choosing the seven

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players you wanted, the Bengals actually makes them so much
more valuable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Sure, sure, Okay, I'm finally leaving the Falcons out just
because I don't like them as a team.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Okay, fair so okay, last place I think is fairly
the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You think it is the Bengals or is it the Chargers?
So we're thinking Herbert lad Johnston, Keenan Allen on offense, Yeah,
running back. I like Hampton, but he wouldn't move the
needle for flag.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He's hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
He's also hurt. I guess Chase Brown Jamiir not Jamiis Jamar,
Chase T Higgins, Mike Deseki could be good in this.
Browning wouldn't get hit, so he could at least just
throw the football. And I think he's decent.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Unless you think any of the teams above would be
down in this group, like maybe we think the Bears
are down here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I think Bears actually could be pretty damn like I
think they could be.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Agree. No, I I agree with you, I would I
mean fortunately, Yeah, who do you think is last? I
just think last is probably easier right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
But I mean, if we're assuming coach, it can't be
the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
No, or that I would do with that order. Yeah,
So for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Assuming coach, who's who are the teams who have a
coach that moves the needle? It would be ah them,
It would be them, It would be them, and it
would be that like that probably, Uh, we're just talking coach.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Just talking coach for flag football. Yeah, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I think Eagles could potentially be seven. I that bold
too bold.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Them are the colt. I understand why the cults are here,
but the culture might be seven. Okay, Daniel Jones gets
you seven? Yeah, then I go Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah, because the quarterbacks running ability is kind of taken away.
They can't just like take off and run right away. Yeah,
and I don't think i'd still a burrow. True. Yeah,
they're not gonna throw it. But what do they do
they should be out there. Uh yeah, that's fair. So Mahomes,
Kelsey Worthy and Andy Reid are kind of unstoppable.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Yeah, I all these have a really good argument. I
think we've really landed on a good top six because
I'm you know, you look at this group and you're
tempted to say the Buccaneers, the Buccaneers receivers in this
game with Baker and very underrated Todd Bulls.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Are Yeah. I think the receivers and I'm Mike Evans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
True, I'd be cool with the Bucks being next.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Okay, do that Lions are pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Well, now that we have this top group, Zach, motherfucker,
did we do this again? There are five teams left
for four spots? How do we do this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Everything?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Well? So yeah, everybody, Okay, okay, is there a steam
left that you're like, let's let's separate out top now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
At this point, I think the receivers are good. I
think they're head coaches pretty good. I just think the
Bears beat themselves. Yes, so I would put them five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I think of these ones left, like thinking about you
have to play defense too?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Sure that I think the lines on defense could be
potentially the best of the bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I would maybe if you're playing defense to Okay, is
it the defense argument because that benefits the Vikings. But
the Vikings right now have Wentz throwing the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Well, I also don't think I think the Vikings are
good as a unit on defense individual players, their cornerbacks
are terrible. Yeah, they can't cover anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Okay, I want to put Vikings fourth. I want to
put Vikings fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I think, Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I mean, Addison and Jefferson are ridiculous. It should be
said in this format.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
But yeah, right, and Wentz will throw two men picks
for this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Yeah, okay, here I have the Chiefs third. Is that crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
No, I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
And because I'm obsessed with an image of like Dan
Campbell is the best flag football coach of all time.
He's just been called to a different profession. But he's
got a good unit for this. He's got good defensive guys.
That said, the same argument can be said no player
has ever been more built for flag football than Matt Stafford.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
M Matthew Stafford would be incredible in flag He you know,
backwards hatches slinging the ball team in twenty eight he'll
be so good. True, Davante would be unguardable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
On Puka in the slot in flag football when you
can't jam him at all. Right, is I think the
Chiefs fall here because their core is really good. I
I do think it's like I think Pat Mahomes obviously
is very very built for flag football the way he plays.
But yeah, Pat and Travis can only take you so far.

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It's very high, but I just don't think it's higher. Okay,
what would your order be by Rams or Lions?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I think see if we're thinking defense as well, Lions
having Brian Branch and Hutchinson is very good. But the
Rams offense I think is potentially significantly better, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
They do have good defense. I struggle to name a seven.
But I also we haven't really mentioned it. McVeigh in
flight football also is running more bootlegs than you've ever
seen in your life. True.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, he's still work in the play action for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Yeah. I would go second.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, I think I would go Rams one as well. Yeah,
so this is the top ten, and then Bengles are
eleven if you want to include them like we did
so number one, I mean Matt Stafford, DeVante Pooka. Need
we say anymore? Number two, the Lions that got the
trick plays, they got the running back Jamior Gibbs would
be incredible in this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Would be so good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Yeah, yeah, Jamison's insane. Chiefs got you know, Andy Reid
ma Holmes is probably the you know, the poster child
for the flake football twenty twenty eight or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Mostly look just like the guy who really wants to
play flag football for tv USA.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Also true Chiefs obvious reasons. Vikings quarterback kind of holds
them back a little bit, but they may have the
best play caller. They got good receivers, receiver, Yeah, Harrison
Smith is there, why not? Bears quarterback just holds him back.
And I think Ben's his face Johnson. I almost said
Ben McAdoo. I think he overthinks things too much, So

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don't want.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I think they're just a worst version of the teams
above them from that spot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
They're bad vibes. I don't like what the Bears are doing.
Baker at six, Baker would find a way to win.
Baker get a little too chippy though, like yeah, too
many delay of games because Baker is gonna be in
the secondary trash shocking cornerback, which you know, not great
Eagles at seven because Hurts would be a pocket pass
or too often. Nine is the Colts because let's face it,

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they don't really have a receiving running back. And then
ten the Chargers because I got Laddin Keenan Allen Keenan
Allen's though you know, slightly worse version with more messed
up shoulders version of DeVante Adams. I think. So that
is what we got for our top ten for week five. Okay,

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anything else before we get out of here. We got
a pole. So if anything else before we go, take
a look at the results of the pole.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Shout out to Jeff being with this all game. I
do agree that the Browns or Miles Garrett is dangers
and jamis Winston uh for the Giants is fun to
think about, I agree. But otherwise, let's say Shocker Shockers. Heck,
it's the question we all wanted out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
It is a very important topic, and I will say
Jake with eighty two percent of the votes, so a
landslide Shockers is the winner. So Wichita is first.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I agree. I think a shocker student had a revelation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Who who's the person who did it? It might be
Van Fleet. You're right, it could be him. It could
be I can't think of their that stupid head coach's name.
He's not there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
It's also I'm sorry this is too edgy joke. I
don't think it's too edgy at this point. It was
definitely a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Stor it's all safe day. You don't size starts inside.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Fuck ya