November 28, 2023 • 59 mins
Zach and Jake talk about the state of the NFL and being nominated for an award (they were told about it this time)!
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Hello, and welcome back to theaward nominated Blurry Sports Podcast. Yes,
you know, we've been award nominatedfor what seems like decades at this point.
You've known as long as we have, which has kind of been the
issue. Normally. Usually we getnominated for like the Podcast Awards in uh
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oh, seventy two hours or less. Turn around, you guys got to
make some magic happen. And thenwe lost to thirty for thirty. Truth
be told, I haven't watched thethirty for thirty since losing to them.
I don't get it. It iswhat it is. Then we get nominated
for Best Local Podcasts from volume one. Again someone should tell us and didn't
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happen? Okay, didn't have enoughtime? Lost? Well, no,
we lost to fuck a banking podcast, Jake, Yeah, the most exhilary.
Not even that a credit union podcast. It wasn't even a bank,
it was a credit union. That'seven work. I brought up to your
mom and she made a great point. I need them to investigate that,
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because I was like, yeah,we lost a banking podcast, and she
goes, yeah, but they havelike employees that they can have, like
they just had their whole thing fupand honestly, they can restrict people's bank
accounts and be like, hey,to unlock your bank account, to use
your credit card, you have tovote for us in the best of polls.
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But I mean, I digress.We're nominated once again for Volume Wood
Best Local Podcast. Jake the wholeFloury Sports U you know, fucking network
essentially is almost almost I mean wecan get playing catchup podcasted there. I
don't mean it's fueling Pete kind oflike, yeah, I think we leave
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it and the next year we don'treally feel like we earned it. Yes,
we need to light a fire underPete's ass. We need we need
to get him to start promoting thepodcast in a positive way where it's like
you, you don't listen to this, but like no, no, no,
no, he still he's doing itfor you. He's like yeah,
yeah, he's like, Zach needsa baseball podcast, so I'll do one.
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Like he's like playing it down,Like I'm like no, it's like
we're doing it for fun, butyeah, no, it would be good.
Also, you can only vote forthree, so already you got to
pick your favorite kid, cause isit true? That's true? You can
only vote for three in a category. So you've got the Playing catch Up
podcast. Oh nope, that's theonly one you don't have. You have
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this podcast, the Flurry Sports podcast, you have the Lombardi Sweep, you
have the Fantasy Football by Committee podcast. And hasn't gone to their head at
all. Well, they say itcouldn't be done. But if you would
like to vote, and I imploreyou to do so, and you can
vote as many times as you haveemail addresses, which is I also implore
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you to create new email addresses.Branch out a bit. It's fun.
There's something more fun than creating someemail addresses and voting. Ple please,
so fun. I promise you ifwe I'll promise you two things. One,
if we win, we will goto the live Aword show and we
will film the whole thing. Wewill be jackasses. We shouldn't be there.
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And we will make that note too. If we lose that banking podcast
again, I'm going to end thisshow. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
do this anymore. We can't dothat. That's not okay. Hey,
something's gotta change. There have tobe stakes if we lose. All right,
let's let's say this if we tothe Banking Podcast, Hannah and Emily
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will host an episode of this podcastget it right back on its on its
feet again. I don't know ifthat's a threat or if that's something people
want. I also will see ifwe lose to them, that'll be interesting,
that'll be awesome. That's kind ofwhat I'm hoping for. I would
say, I implored the people,when you vote, make this show one
of your votes. And then forchaos listen. I don't think so out
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of those four options doesn't have aphotout. It's not gonna get random votes,
like the people need to power thatone. So I'd say pick pick
those two. But this podcast,we've been around the longest. We were
snabbed. No one's ever told us. We're telling other people now, yeah,
yeah, it's our time. Wehave time to vote for this time
and this time around, and wehave until December eighth to get our votes
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in. To do so, goto Volume one dot org. That's one
spelled out, so volume oh andor slash best of you'll see all of
the awards that you can vote onfor the Chip of Valley, go to
Media and Info and under that.I think the third option is best local
podcast. All of the podcasts arethere. If you would like to write
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in to see if you can getthe banking podcast removed, It's money Donuts
podcast. If you'd like to getthem removed from the running due to some
sort of insider voting or some sortof deceivery, which I do not want.
I do not like that, butgo there. Vote for our podcast
again. You can sign up withyour email address to vote. They're not
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gonna spam you with a bunch ofweird shit. You can log in with
your Facebook sign it in as wellto make it even easier. But yeah,
please vote for the Florry Sports podcast, the Lombardy Sweep podcast, and
then flip a coin, do whateveryou gotta do, whatever you decide.
Vote for either Fantasy Football Buy Committeeor I don't think so, both of
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them very worthy. I will saysome of these seem very interesting, but
pretty much all the other ones arenews, religion, or banking, and
I think I'd like to think wekind of do all three in one here
with a little bit of sports ontop of it. So I mean,
what, you know what, herewe go. We got until the eighth,
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so we got one more episode Ibelieve published until the voting ends.
Yes, we'll come with the banking. We'll do a little banking next week.
That's fine if that's what you guyslove. Apparently we'll do a little
banking. So little money management tipsnext week. I've got a great one.
Don't spend me there we go,there we go. Maybe don't bank
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at our cut that some insider training. No, that's good the McDonald's app.
That's how I say, buddy,Uh I think. Uh. My
implore is that please vote. Wethank you doing so. This is always
the time to year where we getthankful. Wait I said that, like
there's not a holiday for it,like just we just did it. But
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you're thankful, But thank you somuch for listening. We do really appreciate
it. If I could ask youto do one more thing, uh first.
Zach is nominated in other categories BestSocial Media Presence, Fantasy Flurry.
If we remember last year one ofthe news anchors won it and she took
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like a blurry, weird fucking pictureto like celebrate. We can't let that
happen either. You need to takea weird flurry and celebrate. If I
win, I will do I'll dowhatever you guys, want all of them
not good. I'll do anything.I'll do one post of whatever the people
want. It could be as thatas long as it doesn't get me bad
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from the platform. And I'm tellingyou Twitter, it takes a lot.
So I will do anything just becauseI think it would be funny. If
you need someone a little bit moresnarky representing the Chipple Valley in this category,
I think vote for me. Ithink that's true. Do that.
If we win the awards, we'regonna wear our shirts provided by the I
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Don't Think So podcast to the awardshow host Flury because that's us. That'll
be our moment in the sun.So we will do that. Also,
if you are in charge of thePodcast Awards, where the fuck are you?
Where's our invite? You let usin once, you didn't tell us
we were supposed to be there,and then you didn't invite us back.
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So that's a great point. Sowhere's our invite? And my final implore
there's a category most Luscious Radio Voice. I don't want this to be an
inside submission. You can submit itat home. It's gotta be somebody else.
Pete Osmond deserves this award. Chris'slongtime friend Bob Boseld, who's one
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mat of one. He's rested onhis laurels for too long. Mm hmm
yeah. I mean how many timesthe sub would have to win an award
before they shouldn't be in the runninganymore. That's what we are going to
find out soon, I think,unless Pete upsets mister bo sold and I
think it shouldn't even be close tobe completely so funny, it would be
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so great. So please nominate Peteosbit of the play catchup podcast somewhere and
get that going, get get thepeople bumping. Yeah, because that also
that category is just made for BobBolzel, So yeah, yeah, for
sure, And I'd like to thinkthe best local podcast was made for us.
So let's show the people what theyneed to hear. And like last
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year, I assume, by theway, as soon as we get nominated,
we see a little bit of aspike in listenership, people wondering what
we are. And if you areone of those people ten minutes in here,
welcome doesn't Isn't this the type ofvibe you're wanting a little bit too
aggressive for an award? That's us, that's us, and we will continue
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to rebide you to vote over thenext couple of weeks here again Volume one
dot org slash Best of under BestLocal Podcast. Vote for us. But
we got some other stuff to talkabout. We got some sports stuff to
talk about. We have some nonsportsstuff to talk about. I should say
we're recording this early Saturday afternoon,as we always say, never know what's
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gonna happen on an early Saturday afternoonrecord, so we don't have that much
NFL stuff. I should say wedo have four games already in the books,
though, because of Thanksgiving, becauseof the Black Friday game and Jake.
After four games this week, Ifound myself saying, especially on Friday,
because it was weird. I thinkit was a two pm start and
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just kind of an awkward ending tothe day where it's like it's not late
enough to go to bed. Iwanted more football, give me another game.
I didn't think there was enough,even though we had four games through
two days already. We're gonna havea Monday night game, so we're gonna
go Thursday, Friday, Sunday,Monday, obviously today, Saturday, a
bunch of huge college football games.But I thought Friday needed at least two
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games, what says you? Orat least one that's not in two in
the fucking afternoon, Like what arewe doing? That had to be at
least a noon game. I don'tknow what the hell was up with.
I don't know if people feel thatway. Maybe people like an afternoon game
more than a noon game. NotI would rather take in a noon game,
I guess. But if you're gonnahave one, take a night game,
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because if I'm gonna watch bad football, I'm not gonna do it too
in the afternoon. Yeah, Imean, I understand they couldn't flex the
game, like change who's playing andstuff, But it didn't get me overly
excited to be like, Okay,let's see what Tim Boyle's got. Like,
I wasn't overly excited by the way, too. You can't tell me
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Zach Wilson's worse than Tim Boyle.We can't get that here. No,
let's what's gonna happen if we justlet Zack Wilson play off the season,
Like, just do that, Iwill say his practices must be atrocious Wilson
or yeah, well, I knowI think his practices are good. I
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think the that's the issue. Ithink he's playing good when there's no pressure,
and then in the games it's sobad where he's sort of lost the
locker room. So that's why Ithink they made the switch, and because
the fans like it's getting allowed.But we have to remember, and I
said this to somebody off air thisweek as well, we have to remember
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this wasn't the plan. The Jetsgot robbed of their plant. The whole
thing was because people are saying tome, why is Zach Wilson continue to
be kept around, Why is ZackWilson the starter? Why didn't they just
just cut Zack Wilson. The wholeplan was for Zack Wilson to have Aaron
Rodgers like mentor him this year,and so he could watch to see how
someone actually leads a team and play, and you know, he gets to
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see on the sideline, and fourplays into the season, they were completely
robbed of that. So he getsput immediately back in there. And by
the way, though, he's alsobetter than he was last year. So
I don't understand the Zach Wilson hate. Really no, I don't understand the
hate. Well, I do understandthe hate when your defense is that much
better than your offense. That's what'shappening, is like the Jets aren't a
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clown show. It's oh my god, could anyone throw the football? Like
That's the problem is when you havewhat scene as And I don't know if
I agree with this, but sceneis a pretty good backfield, especially before
injuries, but pretty good backfield,good wide receivers and a great defense,
and you aren't good at football.It kind of paints a target on your
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back. And so I think thatis where the hate comes from. I
do think it's unfortunate. And Iwill tell you there's one person to blame
for this, and it's Aaron.Aaron Rodgers. Because you may think I'm
not blaming him for getting injured,I am getting him. I am blaming
him for immediately being like, don'tworry, I'm not out. I'll be
back like immediately. Everyone's like he'sdone and he's like, no, no,
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no, maybe just mostly done.And so we didn't make any moves.
We didn't do anything. We didgo pick up Carson Wentz. We
didn't go pick up like and I'mnot saying any of those moves are good,
but we didn't go grab Flacco likewe didn't do anything because it was
like, well, Rogers is gonnabe back. I think it's the exact
opposite. He said that just soyou know, we need to stay afloat,
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and that should have behooved the Jetsto make a move like that.
That's exactly why you do make amove where it's like we just need to
stay relevant until Rogers gets back,and then they didn't make a move.
So I think he actually kind ofwas like this, he gave them reasons
to make a move. I don'tknow. They're in a tough boat.
They're in a tough boat because toyour point, the plan was we're not
done with Wilson. He's waiting inthe wings, and if that's your narrative,
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he's got to be next. Ithink that's tough, but I think
it's tough publicly to be like whatthey should have done in hindsight has come
out and been like, no,he's not ready. We told you he
wasn't ready. We're acknowledging it.But that's tough because what they've kind of
been able to do is it's notthat he's not ready, it's that we
have Aaron Rodgers. So of coursehe's got to sit because he's not better
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than Aaron Rodgers. But if youbring in Flacco, it's like, well
then he must suck if he's notout playing Flacco. But that's what we
should have done, is brought inanybody, especially with some of the replacements
who have come in, and it'slike they could have went and got Dobbs,
they could have win, got youknow, a bunch of names who
are now playing places, who aredoing good things. But oh no,
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that Friday game was like the strokefor me of like I told you this
to off air too much football,too much football for me. The NFL's
got a here's but here's what Ireally mean when I say that I love
football. You I'm at the pointyou can't throw a football game on TV
and I'm just gonna watch it becauseit's football. Uh And maybe that's where
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I'm at with my fandom. Butthey threw Jets Dolphins on there like it
mattered. It don't fucking matter,Like I was like, what do you
what do you mean? And Idon't know, maybe that's not fair because
thinking back on it, maybe Iwas just disappointed in four bad games.
Yeah, I mean on paper preseasonlike it it should have been a good
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game. You know, the Dolphinsdid exactly what they were hoping they would
do. Like that was the thing. We They're like, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is gonna be in it wheregood Jets are gonna be good. Hopefully
the Dolphins can figure their shit outand be relevant. Fast forward to now
Dolphins are number one and it's theJets. Didn't you know, carry their
weight. It should have been agood game. Some of the other ones
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should have been good as well,they just weren't, you know, true.
Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to be fair
there of like even a week ago, like, uh, did any of
the only game there that probably wentas expected, Like, yeah, it
was going to be a blowout thewhole time was the Dallas game. Yeah,
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but otherwise, maybe people predicted thePacker game not to be close,
but no way they predicted the wayit was going to not be close.
Uh. And I even had hopefor the Seattle game in the second half.
Seattle is just so banged up.I think everyone coming in kind of
knew those second two games were goingwell. To your point, we kind
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of thought all three games could getout of hand. I know on Lobardi
Sweep, I did the show myself. I said, I thought the Packers
would keep it close, but obviouslyLions would win. It's kind of was
my prediction. Yeah, and obviouslyit wasn't close, and the Packers won.
I mean everything that could go wrongday go wrong for the Lions that
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bd to watch. True. Yeah, and there was like as a Packers
fan, like I watched the wholegame and it was fun to watch,
but what a good point of Likeall of us watched the game on Thanksgiving
and we were like, awesome,don't get your hopes up. Like we
were literally like, don't take anythingaway from that game, cause it's if
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you have been watching the Packers witha realistic viewpoint like we last show,
I called them a jobber basically.I was like, they are a comedy
act. This is what they're gonnado. I think they're gonna like they're
gonna beat some teams they have noright to beat. But I don't.
I don't think like it's clicked.I think the Lions played about it as
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bad a game as they could turnoverwise, like fumbles, which I think
are just so hard to predict andsome other pieces. And also I guess
this to be very sports talkie fora second. I don't think this is
an overreaction we've because I've been sayingit for years. Uh yeah, a
team cannot be consistently good and haveJared Goffitt quarterback. No, yeah,
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I mean he's sort of exceeded expectationsup until the past couple of weeks.
But people seem to forget last weekthey almost lost the Bears and then they
lost to the Packers. So it'slike the Lions I think are a little
bit worse than people are, youknow, expected, Well, they're worse
than the record. That's part ofit is they somehow ended up at eight
and two. Yeah, they haven'tplayed anybody, and you can argue they
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still haven't. They just you know, watch some games. But I mean,
what you're saying about the Packers Iagree with. But it doesn't sound
like you're on the internet because manylegitimate people Twitter account. I well,
yeah, I'm a good thing.You haven't been looking that many legitimate loud
voices in the Packers community. Reporters. Kurt ben Kirk, former Packer who
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has multiple shows. Now for somereason, people have been saying Packers legitimately
could win out. They could winevery single game the rest of the way,
and it's like, uh, Iknow, the Internet's gonna Internet,
But they play the Chiefs next week. Yeah, I know, it's stupid.
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That's not like like I literally didthat this weekend with the Vikings,
just because if the Viking schedule therest of the way is booie, it's
not. It is so easy.Yeah, so like they could win out.
I will say mathematically, the Packersfor sure can make the playoffs.
I know someone literally has to,and I will say this is just Packer
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fandom. There are very few moderates, and I think this season, of
all seasons, the moderates have itlike we're a perfectly fine team. Like
I'll say this, do I thinkthey might make the playoffs? Yes,
because to start the season I thoughtwe might end up seven and ten and
I still think we might end upseven and ten and that might be enough
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to make the playoffs. It'll beclose. It'll be they have to beat
the Vikings because I think the lastplayoff spots between US two and that might
not be good enough. But I'mjust saying, if that kind of record
is going to be a playoff team. Then yes, I think the Packers
have a chance. Now you athome decide, does that make a good
playoff team? I don't. Idon't think so. But I I just
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think with fourteen fucking teams making itinto the playoffs, like mad, too
many, too many. We've hitthe point where too many teams make it
in literally every sport, which isa little wild playing tournament for NBA,
don't like it, sixty four teamsor whatever it is in the fucking March
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madness. Uh true, you know, Yeah, there's just too much going
on. There's too much. Butthat's the thing is, I think to
the point of too many NFL games, I think sports take for granted what
we talk about in the show.It's about a story. Tell me,
I am not watching football, evenus who are very into the intricacies of
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football. I don't watch it fora good halfback dive dude. I like
watch it for the narrative and likethe competition. If the games don't matter,
I don't fucking care, so right, you know, So, I
just think, uh, football isgetting a little like that where I don't
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know if the NFL cares, Iwould be my most pessimistic take. I
can't believe I think this, butI do a little bit. I think
the NFL only cares about two teamsthis year, okay, which two Chiefs
and Eagles. It does kind offeel that way. I don't. I
think they will be disappointed unless it'sKelsey Bull, which is a bummer because
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same. But I just think that'swhat we've been kind of talking about though.
Like you heard that if you listen. First off, Collinsworth was on
one in the Thursday night Seattle Ninersgame. I don't know if you heard
that. I didn't have that volumeon. Okay, well, first off,
totally get that. That's fine.But one they kept talking about and
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I'm gonna forget his name now,but the tackle who's forty two, who's
on the sea Hall, Jason Peters. Jason Peters was like his calling card,
his point he got hurt. Andthen Collinsworth was like, I did
it again, Like he's like callinghis own spots, he's like calling it
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out. And he literally said inthe game, like I think this forty
nine Ers team bores people because they'rejust kind of good. They're not flashy,
but like they're a good team andI'm like, that's how I feel
like the NFL feels about the Niners, is Yeah, I guess they're good.
Like tell it to me. Besides, Rock Party was an irrelevant quarterback
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from an irrelevant university. Like,yeah, give me something, you know,
explain honestly, just kind of explainthe genius of Kyle Shanahan. Explain
why they're so open on offense.Not that brock perty completed another pass to
George Kittle who has nobody within twentyyards of them. Well, I don't
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know if this is true, butI do know that if this was any
other team and any other player,they'd be saying it. So say it.
Tell me that Christian McCaffrey's the bestrunning back in the league. Talk
to me about like the dominance ofhe's like scoring, He's averaged twenty five
touchdown in his first twenty five gameswith this team, Like what are we
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doing? Like talk about that,like he's on average this season, like
two TV's a game, Like andI know that scheme, but like if
that's you know, Alvin Kamara inyears past, or that's you know,
the Adrian Peterson's of the world,that's that's the story, Like why is
this team not Christian McCaffrey and theBoys or something. Yeah, I think
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they're talking about it, but Ithink they're talking about it in the way
of, oh, if you betthe Christian McCaffrey anytime touchdown for the past
twenty weeks, you would have madethis much money. Yeah, And they're
kind of crediting to your point,they're kind of crediting the system, not
McCaffery. Like, if you goback and watch each one of those Christian
McCaffrey touchdowns, he's running through somebodyon at least half of them, for
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sure. For sure he's and stayinghealthy. Like that's I think the piece
of the McCaffrey story that upsets meis like for years it was his fault
that is quad exploded, and nowhe has no credit for staying on the
field, which I don't know ifhe deserves, but I also know that
like it wasn't his fault in Carolina, They're blocking philosophy, was just like
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Christian hit him really fast. Mmhmm. Yeah. Yeah. He weirdly
is kind of one of the moreunderrated players just in terms of how good
he is. And he's a legitimateMVP candidate because that's why he's under read
Yeah, right, and he's atleast in the odds, like he's up
there. But I think you andI probably both agree that he has a
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zero percent chance to win it,correct, as does any non quarterback.
Yeah, but him especially, Ithink he's got zero. But I don't
know, like I felt that ina few games. Maybe that's a fun
thing to do, like the narrativeof these games, like what's the takeaway?
Like I it's unfortunate of the injuriesin Seattle because it's harder also in
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that circumstance to give Sam frand theirflowers. But like yah, I think
the story sory line there is it'stheir time, right, Like this is
as well built a team as youget, and has less of the luck
of the build in Philly. Ithink, like Philly, there's a feature
of Like don't get me wrong,they're a well run organization, well built
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team, but they have pieces oflike how did they get swift and brown?
Like how did that happen? Likehow did other teams allow that to
take place? You know, theirdefense is home ground and like well built
and kind of slept on, butlike I don't know that and like Jalen
Hurts coming into his own and themkeeping three out their five linemen I think
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for about ten years now, youknow, like those pieces are kind of
fortunate and luck, whereas San Franciscoseems so meticulous and so like, we
grabbed this guy from Iowa to puthim in because we know what our system.
Let Trey Lance and Garoppolo walk.Yeah. Yeah. And even with
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Philly, like the players they drafted, I feel like almost every time,
like a lot of their big playersthat they've drafted the past several years,
it's like it's the negligence of allthe teams ahead of them. Like this
this year they got Jalen Carter andevery pick that went by were like,
why why is Philly gonna get thisguy? This is stupid? Yeah,
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yeah, it's just not fair.And I don't know if I've seen that
with the team, Like I don'tknow if I've ever seen a trade clowned
like the AJ Brown trade. Yeah, that's bad, there there was.
I don't know that that one madeabsolutely no sense. The DeAndre Swift one,
I know there's more merit to that, but like the the I agreed,
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people are were clowning the Lions thanthe Lions kind of look good at
the end. I think that wheneverything shakes out, is somewhat of an
even trade. Yeah, not even, like Philly got a good deal,
but everyone knows why Detroit did itnow true, Now, yes, that's
a very good point, Like itcame out in the wash a little bit.
Yeah, but I think there's somethingto appreciate there, like putting your
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mind. Like also no credit givento the fact of like they said that
during the game, and I waslike, fuck, I forgot they did
that. Chase Young's on the Niners, Like I was like, they're good,
dude, They're so freaking good,like him opposite Bosa, who's like
just definitely won the top five defensiveplayers in the league. Yeah, well
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that this trade is interesting. Peoplearen't giving enough merit or like credit to
this Chase Young trade because the fortynine ers doing something we haven't seen.
What their defensive strategy has been thepast several years that people have emulated,
and it's not fucking rocket science.It's just like, if you can win
with those four guys up front whereyou don't have to blitz to get pressure,
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then that's why their coverage is sogood. They don't really have lockdown
defensive backs and stuff. But nowthey're five strong upfront, and we haven't
seen a team be five strong likethey put Chase Young up there with Bosa
with everybody, and they have fiveguys up front, you can create one
on one matchups and it is itfeels like a zero blitz, like with
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the way they bring pressure. Butthey still have six guys on the back
end defending. So it's something wehaven't seen. And that's something that's like
a I mean, truthfully, that'sthe Philadelphia Eagles. That's the way you
beat the Philadelphia Eagles. That's whythey made that trade. Like it's going
to be insane if they can stayhealthy. Chase Young, I think,
got hurt in the game, sowe'll see what happens. But this is
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one of those things where this couldbe that trade could set off a new
trend in the NFL, and peoplearen't really paying attention to it yet.
Yeah, I agree, And Ijust think in general, like that makes
me think of because I feel likeCuban banging the drum on, Hey everybody,
the Ravens are good all year ofLike, I think the narrative is
that there are less good teams thisyear, and maybe that's true, but
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I think what's really happened is Ithink there are four not good great teams.
Like I think the Eagles, theNiners, the Ravens and the Chiefs
are really well built teams. Andthat's not counting Dallas, who I think
you could make an argument for sneakingin, or the Dolphins who drop seventy
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on somebody, like they're obviously notas well built. But like, I
think there are good teams. Ijust feel like that's the NFL is like,
but are they as good as theEagles and Chiefs or like maybe the
media around it and it's like,I, yeah, I think so,
Like maybe they won't beat them,but I the forty nine ers are for
sure every bit as good as anEagles team. I'll bet against the Chiefs
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when I see it, which ishard. But like, also, the
Ravens have been pretty damn good forabout five years now, only possibly derailed
by the diabetes. King Yeah thatwas that. Yeah he's out for the
season. Mark Andrews. That didn'teven look serious, So that's weird.
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Yeah, Eagles will see what happens. Like, I don't think their offensive
line is a top three offensive line, which is the first time we've said
that in a while. Yeah,so let's see what happens there. Dolphins,
I think are getting worse. Ithink the narrative around the Chiefs has
swung to they're not very good nowthough, and I know you see through
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it. I do as well.Yeah, but like their offense is for
sure not clicking, it's not playingvery well. I just maybe maybe I'm
just blindly saying this, I suppose, but I just feel like they're going
to figure it out. And thenonce they figure it out, uh oh,
their defense is one of the betterones in the NFL too, and
now their offense is just a normalChiefs offense. So yeah, well,
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I think what we're seeing. Anddon't get me wrong, I always borderline
like it's not like they're losing onpurpose, right, like they want to
win all of these games. ButI think there's a little bit of spurs
to it of in our division,we're we're not going to lose, like
the Broncos are behind us at fiveand five, Like we're absolutely fine,
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we are gonna win this division nomatter what. So what do you do
you make what is the weakness ofyour offense, your wide like your wide
receivers, in my opinion, notgreat. You've you've basically decided we can
use budget wide receivers other teams threesand twos because we've got Travis Kelcey,
we've got Patrick Mahomes and eventually someonewill really click and it will work.
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So I think they're trying to getin the click. But what I imagine
is going to happen once we hitthe postseason is they're going to start targeting
Travis about three times four times adrive. Yeah, I would assume that's
what happens. It seems like thesafest thing to do. Bill Belichick used
to say over and over again,like during their dynasty, that you know,
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games don't really start to matter untilafter Thanksgiving. We won't know what
team we are until after Thanksgiving.And you know, I think that's kind
of the same thing with the Chiefs. To your point, there's no pressure
behind them. That was the wholething with the Patriots forever. There's nobody
else in the AFC, So let'sjust get the Thanksgiving. As long as
we're still in the driver's seat,we're good to go. Chiefs are in
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the driver's seat. I think theiroffense is going to get figured out,
and like I said, their defenseis getting slept on because of how poor
their offense is. They made theThanksgiving They're gonna be fine. I'm not
gonna be fine with them. Also, they've got three losses and I'm only
one of them is a head scratcher, Like first week against Detroit doesn't count,
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Like, it just doesn't. It'searly against a clear playoff team who
was way like they were the firstteam to figure out Detroit was way better
than everyone thought they were going tobe, so right. Chiefs also didn't
have Travis Kelcey or Chris Jones andshould have won. Yeah, uh so
uh. The Denver loss is weird. I don't like twenty four to nine
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wasn't even a competitive game. Like, but Denver Denver's we talked about.
They're the They're the raven of theNFL. You know, they're weird.
Sometimes they get a push, sometimesthey don't. You know, dude loves
gotta get his wins. So uh. And then Phillies or Phillies Eagles doesn't
count. Congrats you lost to thebest team in the NFL. Besides maybe
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you like cool Syriotti got so cockyafter that one too, and I'm just
like, uh, oh, youdon't, don't do this to yourself.
This is how many times did youhave to see the Colts feat the Patriots
in the regular season? But thatis the plan. You don't want to
win the first one. I know. That's dumpling. You do not want
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to because you don't want to.You don't want to show yourn. That
was all I was singing during thatgame, was like Chiefs have got more
in the tank. M hm ohfor sure for sure, So oh my
god, I'm not worried about themat all. They they played the Raiders
this Sunday win. They play us, not us, but the Packers.
Uh next week, if they playedus, watch out. I'm scrappy.
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Still yeah, still, I likethat. I don't know if we'd win,
but I'm not going down without Kelsey'sknee for sure. Yeah, I'll
play dirty. I'm not too proudfor sure. Good luck the rest of
the season. But that's a win. I think they beat Buffalo like that's
tough. Sure, that's a tossup. But you beat New England,
you beat Vegas again, you beatthe Bengals, you beat the Chargers like
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they may be end the season withfour losses like they're they're fine everybody.
So I don't know they're really fuckinggood. I do think eventually like tight
Ends age fast. That's not adiss on Travis, like whatever happens the
rest of his career, he's aHall of Famer. So like, I
don't know. I think sometimes peopleare like afraid with Kelsey, especially after
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this year, to be like ishe getting older? No, he definitely
is, Like he's not the samethreat. And I do think it's wild
that I think they're most talented widereceivers MBS and I just don't think that's
and it's a toss up. Maybeyou say peck like I don't, but
I think it needs to be better. I think they need a more clear
one for sure. And they've tried. They've just swung and missed. They've
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been doing that since Dwayne Bowie likelike they have not. They are not
good at producing. That was likethe Alex Smith years of like can we
please get a wide out? Theyhad a year with Alex Smith where they
didn't throw a touchdown pass to awide receiver the entire season. No,
it's all tight ends. It's justcrazy like and like since and even Hill
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for a while, like then hebroke out, but Hill was kind of
like a backup option, like Hillgot you a lot of yards and then
all of a sudden, it waslike Mahomes kind of came in and figured
out, Oh, I can justthrow it ten feet further and no one's
gonna catch them. But I don'tknow. I just think they never replaced
Tyreek and no true, it's notlike they didn't want to, so that'd
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be the I guess, like thearmchair quarterback thing they need. But also
they can literally beat anyone in theleague. I don't know. I like
the NFL still, I'm excited forpost Thanksgiving football, but if you keep
telling me no one's gonna beat thesetwo teams, I'm not gonna care when
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they do beat those two teams,Like that's my thing is, like you
know what, be a bummer.I don't think I would care if the
Bills beat the Chiefs, and thatshould be like a moment, like out
of all the teams left in it, Like if the Bills knock the Chiefs
out of the playoffs, that's likefive years in the making and off of
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the Tamar Hamlin thing, yeah,I yeah, I have zero interest in
the Bills, and I think everyone'skind of there as well. I know,
just any team. Like it's likeI just don't know if they've done,
I'll be bumped because you've told meI'm gonna get Kelsey Bowl too.
That's like I feel like the marketing, but I don't know. I'm trying
to get into it. Like mybig fear is I think there's some fun
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options if the Chiefs don't make it. I don't know how much appetite people
are gonna have for the super Bowlif Jason Kelsey doesn't make it on the
NFC side, because I think that'swhat we're hearing is like he got the
show. I think it's all aboutlike let's let him win and like right
off into the sunset. So it'slike if it's a forty nine Ers Ravens
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super Bowl, like people watch becauseit's a super Bowl. But I think
that's the worst scenario because I don'tthink they're marketing to your point of Niners
correctly, and I don't think they'remarketing Lamar Jackson correctly. I think the
best case scenario is if the Cowboysmake it out of the NFC, because
I think people hate the Cowboys somuch that that's the villain that the Chiefs
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need because the Chiefs aren't at theheel for whatever reason. No, I
agree, and I think you're probablyright. That kind of caught me by
surprise, but I think you're notthat you were right, but you know,
oh fine, not. I waslike, what the fuck are you
talking about? Like are we justyelling random downs whale shark? But no,
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I because I said earlier in theseason, I wanted the Bengals,
which is now obviously not gonna happen. I wanted the Bengals to knock out
the Chiefs. So we got Burrowbeats the Chiefs again, and we've got
a heal for Philly to beat.But I agree, I think that's probably
the best option because I don't know, Oh, it's just not gonna happen.
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But I mean the other heel inthe AFC is the Dolphins, so
I would take that. I don'tknow people view them as a heel,
though I do other than I do, but like it's just because I hate
to, uh true, but Ijust think they'll be so cocky. I
don't think you have to work hardto be a heel if it's the Eagles.
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So that's that's all I'm saying,is like, in that matchup,
you don't agree, but I Idon't like their coach. It comes to
uh no, no, Dolphins coachMcDaniel. McDaniel and hard Knocks just started
this week. By the way,with the Dolphins, we'd be good friends.
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We'd be good friends. And that'swhy it makes me mad that he's
succeeding so much. Uh No,I don't know, Like I just think
I just don't love they me it'sTyreek just poisoning the whole team for me
because I loathe him. But Iby the way, in season Hard Knocks,
there's a whole scene with his uhnow fiance I believe maybe maybe wife,
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maybe a wife, But I'm like, oh, he's the one he
didn't abuse. Cool, Like weneed to stop, like forgetting about it,
dear NFL google him. It's bad. So I don't know, So
I think that could be an option. Is like, I think they are
a cocky, cocky team, soI think they would. I here's what
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I'll say, No matter what youthink of them, now, who's ever
listening to this? I think ifit was them Eagles, they'd be the
bad guys, and I think that'sa role they would thrive in, so
that I guess talking through it iswhat I'm rooting for outside of Kelsey Bowl
too. But to your point,I don't know if we get Kelsey Bowl,
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if it's like a lot of peopleare going to be cheering for Kansas
City, which is crazy to me. M Yeah, people don't like Siriani.
He's made the Eagles heel for sure, I will no matter what you
think of Taylor Swift. And thisis mostly towards Uzac. If it's Kelsey
Bowl, we gotta get Cush UsherCusher. We gotta get Usher the fuck
(43:15):
out of there, right, it'sgotta be her. Let's do it up.
Let's just make a lot of money. Sometimes it's okay just to make
a lot of money. And Ithink, like if I turn into the
Kelsey Bowl and then I hear yeah, it's like, okay, this feels
like I should be hearing love story, you know. I mean, does
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what does Taylor Swift bring? Like? Do you make more money with Taylor
Swift versus anybody else? Yes,because anybody else I don't know more than
Usher. She just is more ofa draw people will watch. Do you
know how much money people paid justto watch a Taylor Swift concert? So,
(44:00):
like, I just think you willmake more money because she is more
desirable to watch right now than Usheris. Like, my mom cares about
Taylor Swift. She doesn't care aboutUsher, so she'll watch the whole game.
Did you mind watch last Super Bowl? No, she watched Rihanna.
She likes Rihanna, But I justlisten. Maybe my beef's with Usher.
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Maybe I just don't think he's wellmarketable. But I think I think there's
I'm not saying a ton, Ithink it could be a ton, But
I think there are people who areSwifties who won't watch a whole fucking football
game, who would watch and tunein for like, because oh god,
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is she gonna get bad? WhenI say this, I'm gonna throw Claire
under the bus a little bit.Claire is a sports fan, more into
football than I think most Swifties are. She doesn't watch a whole football games.
She waits for the Tiktoks to comeout of all Taylor on the thing.
So I don't think they would tuneinto the Super Bowl just watch Taylor,
but they'd tune in and she wasa halftime show. I for sure.
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I think there's a little bit,but I don't think it's significant.
You're a hater. Well, Ijust think everyone watches the Super Bowl.
Interesting, that's your take. Oh, I don't know. Last year,
I didn't get to do you rememberthat, I do, I do.
There was a situation death threats.I had to go but witchcraft death threats,
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But I forgot about the winds partof it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, so yeah, I didn'tget to see I didn't get to see
second half. Yeah that was whatwas Yeah, the most expensive baby announcement
of all time, I think iswhat they're calling it. I think that
is what they're calling it. Well, z that any other football talks before
we get to the bottom half ofthe show here with some stuff, Uh
(45:55):
no, I got nothing else.I think we should get to our final
couple things relatively quickly, though.Let's do it. Don't need to keeep
the people dragging along. I knowyou got something that will make me angry
about baseball. I want to seeif if irks me, because I just
think it's the most GM fucking thingever, The GM of the Cardinals.
(46:19):
They're pitching. By the way,ZAC has been bottom five in the league
for the last five seasons. Inthat time, until this year, they've
been pretty good and it's like youjust need pitching, Go get some pitching.
Last year they fucking sucked. Theywere really, really bad. But
in the middle of that sect,they traded away two of their young pitchers,
one of which Jordan Montgomery went andhelped. He was like, I
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think if not the MVP of oneof the playoff series, was clearly the
best pitcher for the Rangers in theplayoffs, so he wins a ring.
Nice job. Cardinals didn't keep him, so they had no pitching and now
they have even less. So theyliterally had two of five starting pitchers going
into the off season. Their GMZ that comes out and goes, listen,
(47:07):
we know what the problem is.It's pitching. We're we are dedicated
to get three pitchers this offseason.First off, you had to you literally
had to like came out and waslike, this is our time, We're
doing it. It's like yeah,yeah, yep, literally, yep.
Absolutely. It's like the Chets beinglike we're exploring options at quarterback. Yeah,
(47:30):
for sure, are You're right?Like way to go two, they
said they were gonna get three,right cool. They immediately signed two old
ass guys on one year deals.They went and got old Kyle Gibson,
who I love because he used toplay for the Twins, but that tells
you everything you need to know abouthis ceiling for talent. And Lance Lynn,
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who also used to play for theTwins, and the last time we
saw him in the playoffs, Ibelieve gave up four home runs in one
inning for the Dodgers. These areguys who eat up inning, Zach.
They are old. Let me thinkof another sports comparison. It would be
like the Lakers come out and they'relike, you know, we're gonna we're
gonna go get some starters, andthey bring in of course j R.
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Smith and Tosh Gibson, Like it'slike cool, great, like yes,
yeah, it's like okay, awesome. I guess they can play. But
they didn't even try and get andnow they're like their fans like yelled at
them the gems like whoa, westill got one more and it's like yeah,
but like we're not doing anything,Like it's just the most gm thing
(48:38):
ever to be Like told you alreadygot to three. You're missing the big
picture, Jake. There's one moreleft, and they're going for the Bakerhunadi,
come on, come to Saint Louis. It's it's a beautiful place to
be. It'd be awesome, notleast of which because he can't pitch this
(48:59):
year. Ah okay, well youknow big picture, long time no,
but it'd be awesome. That'd beso good because it would be great and
they'd be like, told you threepictures, like, okay, one of
them can't throw, but he's awesome, so we'd allow it. But listen,
maybe they get it. But that'sall their fans have been. It
(49:20):
feels very tense because their fans arelike these losers. They told us they
were gonna get three, they're notgonna go get the third one. And
the GM basically came out and waslike, you can't get mad at us
before we let you down. Likehe's tried to like set a thing,
like he's like, hey, thatwasn't supposed to be the trick. You're
supposed to like let the market playout and then we can be like,
(49:42):
oh we tried, yeah, yeah, hold hold your groans for now.
Get ready. There's more common yeah, I don't. I just like it's
one of those things. I don'tknow why it irks me so much,
but it's like when GM's at theirown market. Yeah, it really pisses
me off, especially when they're thenlike why are you mad? And it's
(50:07):
like, because you don't get tojust say that's what our goal was.
That's like the like Baseball, bythe way, kings of that. The
Mariners GF came out, this isanother winning line. He came out and
said, our goal is in aten year span to have is to win
sixty percent of our games. Whosegoal is that? What do you mean
(50:29):
your goals do? With a fuckingchampionship? You don't get to come out
here just make up a goal.Yeah, hang the hang the pennant,
hang the batter. Sixty win rateand yeah I know. And also yes,
that is astronomically good in a back. It's also a future goal.
What does that do for me?True? True, that's stupid. That's
(50:53):
the same thing when I hear Idon't know if this is too political,
but I'm just throwing it out there. When people tell me we're going to
save the planet by twenty fifty,I don't know what that means no,
yeah, yeah, I don't know. What does that mean? What am
I doing? How many points arewe doubt? Right? Now? Let
me know? Is this gonna bethe biggest comeback in history? So that's
(51:15):
true? Like I don't know theyalways how come we don't have a goal
for twenty twenty five? Yeah,it's true. Now let's push it down
the road. Hopefully we forget causeI don't know if they grew up with
Brenda Osmond. But if I triedto say I'd have my room cleaned by
twenty fifty, I think she kickedmy ass. Yeah, you just trust
me. You can't complain Now,you gotta wait until then. If I
(51:37):
keep up this pace, We're almostthere. Mom, I told you that
I would clean up my room ina three day span and not days one
and two. I folded my socks, so you can't get mad at me
yet. That's the Cardinals, Baby, I did it. I got two
guys. Uh. It's just it'sso funny me, especially the literal like
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it'd be like after the Crosby thatleft the packers being like, we're gonna
get a kicker, Yeah yeah,yeah, like you need one? Cool?
Great, I'm glad you acknowledge theempty locker in the locker room.
Yeah, I don't know. Andmaybe it'll work, like if they go
get an ace cool, but itjust reaps of cheapskate. Yeah, we'll
(52:22):
revisit this and you know, onemonth when they start playing or something true
or true true true true. ButZach, you have a list for me.
Critically, I don't know what thislist is, right, So I
got a list of things here.They're all they're all part of one collection.
(52:42):
Here, I will say, we'llend the show on this. I'm
just gonna read some things off andI want you to tell me what this
is. And I'm gonna see howmany of these it'll take for you to
get it. Big list here,so I need to choose the right ones,
but I think you can get it. My goal is three or less.
You'll know what it is. Okay, Okay, I feel I feel
pretty good about that. Let's startwith MM how Okay, I'm gonna start
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with sort of an obscure one.It's go eat worms? Any thought U
go eat worms? Yes, I'mgonna throw out that. It's some sort
(53:29):
of scramble of a name. Okay, Okay, Number two say cheese and
die. Oh okay, hold on, can I do the math on that?
No? No, no, okay, those are different letters. Okay,
so can't be my guess, sayJesus and die? Wait a minute,
(53:52):
why do I feel like that inparticular is familiar to me? Definitely?
Is? Uh? Say cheese anddie? Are these band names?
No? But the next one thatI have cue up would be a great
band name. That's all I thought. The listens were like things that we've
(54:14):
said would be great band names.Okay, what's next? Okay? The
Abominable Snowman of Pasadena? These arethese are movies? These are say Cheese
(54:37):
and Die is the one I'm hungup on because what if I tell you?
What if I told you? Anotherone on the list is say Cheese
and Die again? Are are these? Uh? Fuck? But which are
they? These aren't Hallmark movies?No? There are they netflick movies.
(55:01):
I'm unsure if their movies or not. It's a possibility that they were also
movies. Oh oh, this isthe abominal snowmen in Pasadena. That was
one of them. Yep, theseare goosebump books. Yeah yeah, yeah
(55:22):
yeah. That one was also ticklingmy brain because of how specific it was.
I'm not gonna lie you started witha great one, because then I
just started ignoring Goat eat Worms becauseI was like, I don't I can't
place that. But there's so many, I mean, the Wizard of Ooze.
(55:45):
Great Goosebump titles are awesome, They'revery fun. Goat eat Worms is
not grammar. That's my favorite partof that one. No. I have
the list of all the Goosebump booktitles and they go through some weird phases.
There's one that's just where was itdoctor maniac versus Robbie Schwartz, And
(56:09):
I just want to know. RobbieSchwartz is like, that doesn't seem like
it fits. He works in thebank. Yeah, I don't doubt,
Like, uh, it's just aguy. I don't know. After like
the one and sixtieth title, Ibelieve is what this means here is just
class. That's it. I thinkit's a Jaws spin off because there's an
(56:32):
exclamation point at the end, howI Met my Monster. Funny Earth geeks
must go probably read that one,did you. Yeah, there's some the
incredible shrinking fifth grader say cheese anddie hit A part of my brain that
(56:53):
I was not expecting. Like,I was like, yeah, what is
that? Yeah, there's one that'sjust it came from Ohio. Oh no,
that's the that's the R. L. Stein auto biography. It came
from Ohio. I was gonna say, I've read that one. This tickles
the same part of my brain assaying Heith Miller's name, true, true,
(57:16):
the blob that ate everyone. Ifeel like I remember that good one,
good one. What's the there's apuppet one? Let me just see
if or maybe Mannequin Night of thePuppet People. Yeah, good bumps.
I mean, we're just going throughthis Scholastic book thing right now, which
(57:38):
I love. By the way,Yeah for sure, Trick or Trapped,
the Night of the Living Dummy.Okay, yeah, I do remember that
one. Actually, well, Ihope. So there's fucking three of them.
Oh really okay, yeah, definitely. Uh that's a great list.
(58:00):
It's a great list. There's somany good things on here, so many
good things. I'm gonna say,though, Jake, this is the end
of the show, because I hearmy dog barking, and I think there
is some what of here. SoI'd like to implore everybody once again volume
one dot org slash best of Golog in, vote for your boys,
(58:21):
vote for three podcasts, including theFlory Sports Podcast. Other Flory Sports podcasts
on there are Lombardi Sweep, IDon't Think So, and Fantasy Football by
Committee. Definitely go check them allout. And we got two weeks.
We got two weeks. Next week, I promise some money making tips for
(58:42):
you to one up those motherfuckers fromour CU. There you go. I
always hear trap. That's that's mytip. I don't know
Hello, and welcome back to theaward nominated Blurry Sports Podcast. Yes,
you know, we've been award nominatedfor what seems like decades at this point.
You've known as long as we have, which has kind of been the
issue. Normally. Usually we getnominated for like the Podcast Awards in uh
(00:37):
oh, seventy two hours or less. Turn around, you guys got to
make some magic happen. And thenwe lost to thirty for thirty. Truth
be told, I haven't watched thethirty for thirty since losing to them.
I don't get it. It iswhat it is. Then we get nominated
for Best Local Podcasts from volume one. Again someone should tell us and didn't
(01:00):
happen? Okay, didn't have enoughtime? Lost? Well, no,
we lost to fuck a banking podcast, Jake, Yeah, the most exhilary.
Not even that a credit union podcast. It wasn't even a bank,
it was a credit union. That'seven work. I brought up to your
mom and she made a great point. I need them to investigate that,
(01:23):
because I was like, yeah,we lost a banking podcast, and she
goes, yeah, but they havelike employees that they can have, like
they just had their whole thing fupand honestly, they can restrict people's bank
accounts and be like, hey,to unlock your bank account, to use
your credit card, you have tovote for us in the best of polls.
(01:44):
But I mean, I digress.We're nominated once again for Volume Wood
Best Local Podcast. Jake the wholeFloury Sports U you know, fucking network
essentially is almost almost I mean wecan get playing catchup podcasted there. I
don't mean it's fueling Pete kind oflike, yeah, I think we leave
(02:05):
it and the next year we don'treally feel like we earned it. Yes,
we need to light a fire underPete's ass. We need we need
to get him to start promoting thepodcast in a positive way where it's like
you, you don't listen to this, but like no, no, no,
no, he still he's doing itfor you. He's like yeah,
yeah, he's like, Zach needsa baseball podcast, so I'll do one.
(02:27):
Like he's like playing it down,Like I'm like no, it's like
we're doing it for fun, butyeah, no, it would be good.
Also, you can only vote forthree, so already you got to
pick your favorite kid, cause isit true? That's true? You can
only vote for three in a category. So you've got the Playing catch Up
podcast. Oh nope, that's theonly one you don't have. You have
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yeah. I mean how many timesthe sub would have to win an award
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that category is just made for BobBolzel, So yeah, yeah, for
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So let's show the people what theyneed to hear. And like last
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we see a little bit of aspike in listenership, people wondering what
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we got some other stuff to talkabout. We got some sports stuff to
talk about. We have some nonsportsstuff to talk about. I should say
we're recording this early Saturday afternoon,as we always say, never know what's
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gonna happen on an early Saturday afternoonrecord, so we don't have that much
NFL stuff. I should say wedo have four games already in the books,
though, because of Thanksgiving, becauseof the Black Friday game and Jake.
After four games this week, Ifound myself saying, especially on Friday,
because it was weird. I thinkit was a two pm start and
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just kind of an awkward ending tothe day where it's like it's not late
enough to go to bed. Iwanted more football, give me another game.
I didn't think there was enough,even though we had four games through
two days already. We're gonna havea Monday night game, so we're gonna
go Thursday, Friday, Sunday,Monday, obviously today, Saturday, a
bunch of huge college football games.But I thought Friday needed at least two
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games, what says you? Orat least one that's not in two in
the fucking afternoon, Like what arewe doing? That had to be at
least a noon game. I don'tknow what the hell was up with.
I don't know if people feel thatway. Maybe people like an afternoon game
more than a noon game. NotI would rather take in a noon game,
I guess. But if you're gonnahave one, take a night game,
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because if I'm gonna watch bad football, I'm not gonna do it too
in the afternoon. Yeah, Imean, I understand they couldn't flex the
game, like change who's playing andstuff, But it didn't get me overly
excited to be like, Okay,let's see what Tim Boyle's got. Like,
I wasn't overly excited by the way, too. You can't tell me
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Zach Wilson's worse than Tim Boyle.We can't get that here. No,
let's what's gonna happen if we justlet Zack Wilson play off the season,
Like, just do that, Iwill say his practices must be atrocious Wilson
or yeah, well, I knowI think his practices are good. I
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think the that's the issue. Ithink he's playing good when there's no pressure,
and then in the games it's sobad where he's sort of lost the
locker room. So that's why Ithink they made the switch, and because
the fans like it's getting allowed.But we have to remember, and I
said this to somebody off air thisweek as well, we have to remember
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this wasn't the plan. The Jetsgot robbed of their plant. The whole
thing was because people are saying tome, why is Zach Wilson continue to
be kept around, Why is ZackWilson the starter? Why didn't they just
just cut Zack Wilson. The wholeplan was for Zack Wilson to have Aaron
Rodgers like mentor him this year,and so he could watch to see how
someone actually leads a team and play, and you know, he gets to
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see on the sideline, and fourplays into the season, they were completely
robbed of that. So he getsput immediately back in there. And by
the way, though, he's alsobetter than he was last year. So
I don't understand the Zach Wilson hate. Really no, I don't understand the
hate. Well, I do understandthe hate when your defense is that much
better than your offense. That's what'shappening, is like the Jets aren't a
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clown show. It's oh my god, could anyone throw the football? Like
That's the problem is when you havewhat scene as And I don't know if
I agree with this, but sceneis a pretty good backfield, especially before
injuries, but pretty good backfield,good wide receivers and a great defense,
and you aren't good at football.It kind of paints a target on your
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back. And so I think thatis where the hate comes from. I
do think it's unfortunate. And Iwill tell you there's one person to blame
for this, and it's Aaron.Aaron Rodgers. Because you may think I'm
not blaming him for getting injured,I am getting him. I am blaming
him for immediately being like, don'tworry, I'm not out. I'll be
back like immediately. Everyone's like he'sdone and he's like, no, no,
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no, maybe just mostly done.And so we didn't make any moves.
We didn't do anything. We didgo pick up Carson Wentz. We
didn't go pick up like and I'mnot saying any of those moves are good,
but we didn't go grab Flacco likewe didn't do anything because it was
like, well, Rogers is gonnabe back. I think it's the exact
opposite. He said that just soyou know, we need to stay afloat,
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and that should have behooved the Jetsto make a move like that.
That's exactly why you do make amove where it's like we just need to
stay relevant until Rogers gets back,and then they didn't make a move.
So I think he actually kind ofwas like this, he gave them reasons
to make a move. I don'tknow. They're in a tough boat.
They're in a tough boat because toyour point, the plan was we're not
done with Wilson. He's waiting inthe wings, and if that's your narrative,
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he's got to be next. Ithink that's tough, but I think
it's tough publicly to be like whatthey should have done in hindsight has come
out and been like, no,he's not ready. We told you he
wasn't ready. We're acknowledging it.But that's tough because what they've kind of
been able to do is it's notthat he's not ready, it's that we
have Aaron Rodgers. So of coursehe's got to sit because he's not better
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than Aaron Rodgers. But if youbring in Flacco, it's like, well
then he must suck if he's notout playing Flacco. But that's what we
should have done, is brought inanybody, especially with some of the replacements
who have come in, and it'slike they could have went and got Dobbs,
they could have win, got youknow, a bunch of names who
are now playing places, who aredoing good things. But oh no,
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that Friday game was like the strokefor me of like I told you this
to off air too much football,too much football for me. The NFL's
got a here's but here's what Ireally mean when I say that I love
football. You I'm at the pointyou can't throw a football game on TV
and I'm just gonna watch it becauseit's football. Uh And maybe that's where
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I'm at with my fandom. Butthey threw Jets Dolphins on there like it
mattered. It don't fucking matter,Like I was like, what do you
what do you mean? And Idon't know, maybe that's not fair because
thinking back on it, maybe Iwas just disappointed in four bad games.
Yeah, I mean on paper preseasonlike it it should have been a good
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game. You know, the Dolphinsdid exactly what they were hoping they would
do. Like that was the thing. We They're like, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is gonna be in it wheregood Jets are gonna be good. Hopefully
the Dolphins can figure their shit outand be relevant. Fast forward to now
Dolphins are number one and it's theJets. Didn't you know, carry their
weight. It should have been agood game. Some of the other ones
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should have been good as well,they just weren't, you know, true.
Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to be fair
there of like even a week ago, like, uh, did any of
the only game there that probably wentas expected, Like, yeah, it
was going to be a blowout thewhole time was the Dallas game. Yeah,
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but otherwise, maybe people predicted thePacker game not to be close,
but no way they predicted the wayit was going to not be close.
Uh. And I even had hopefor the Seattle game in the second half.
Seattle is just so banged up.I think everyone coming in kind of
knew those second two games were goingwell. To your point, we kind
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of thought all three games could getout of hand. I know on Lobardi
Sweep, I did the show myself. I said, I thought the Packers
would keep it close, but obviouslyLions would win. It's kind of was
my prediction. Yeah, and obviouslyit wasn't close, and the Packers won.
I mean everything that could go wrongday go wrong for the Lions that
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bd to watch. True. Yeah, and there was like as a Packers
fan, like I watched the wholegame and it was fun to watch,
but what a good point of Likeall of us watched the game on Thanksgiving
and we were like, awesome,don't get your hopes up. Like we
were literally like, don't take anythingaway from that game, cause it's if
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you have been watching the Packers witha realistic viewpoint like we last show,
I called them a jobber basically.I was like, they are a comedy
act. This is what they're gonnado. I think they're gonna like they're
gonna beat some teams they have noright to beat. But I don't.
I don't think like it's clicked.I think the Lions played about it as
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bad a game as they could turnoverwise, like fumbles, which I think
are just so hard to predict andsome other pieces. And also I guess
this to be very sports talkie fora second. I don't think this is
an overreaction we've because I've been sayingit for years. Uh yeah, a
team cannot be consistently good and haveJared Goffitt quarterback. No, yeah,
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I mean he's sort of exceeded expectationsup until the past couple of weeks.
But people seem to forget last weekthey almost lost the Bears and then they
lost to the Packers. So it'slike the Lions I think are a little
bit worse than people are, youknow, expected, Well, they're worse
than the record. That's part ofit is they somehow ended up at eight
and two. Yeah, they haven'tplayed anybody, and you can argue they
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still haven't. They just you know, watch some games. But I mean,
what you're saying about the Packers Iagree with. But it doesn't sound
like you're on the internet because manylegitimate people Twitter account. I well,
yeah, I'm a good thing.You haven't been looking that many legitimate loud
voices in the Packers community. Reporters. Kurt ben Kirk, former Packer who
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has multiple shows. Now for somereason, people have been saying Packers legitimately
could win out. They could winevery single game the rest of the way,
and it's like, uh, Iknow, the Internet's gonna Internet,
But they play the Chiefs next week. Yeah, I know, it's stupid.
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That's not like like I literally didthat this weekend with the Vikings,
just because if the Viking schedule therest of the way is booie, it's
not. It is so easy.Yeah, so like they could win out.
I will say mathematically, the Packersfor sure can make the playoffs.
I know someone literally has to,and I will say this is just Packer
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fandom. There are very few moderates, and I think this season, of
all seasons, the moderates have itlike we're a perfectly fine team. Like
I'll say this, do I thinkthey might make the playoffs? Yes,
because to start the season I thoughtwe might end up seven and ten and
I still think we might end upseven and ten and that might be enough
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to make the playoffs. It'll beclose. It'll be they have to beat
the Vikings because I think the lastplayoff spots between US two and that might
not be good enough. But I'mjust saying, if that kind of record
is going to be a playoff team. Then yes, I think the Packers
have a chance. Now you athome decide, does that make a good
playoff team? I don't. Idon't think so. But I I just
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think with fourteen fucking teams making itinto the playoffs, like mad, too
many, too many. We've hitthe point where too many teams make it
in literally every sport, which isa little wild playing tournament for NBA,
don't like it, sixty four teamsor whatever it is in the fucking March
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madness. Uh true, you know, Yeah, there's just too much going
on. There's too much. Butthat's the thing is, I think to
the point of too many NFL games, I think sports take for granted what
we talk about in the show.It's about a story. Tell me,
I am not watching football, evenus who are very into the intricacies of
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football. I don't watch it fora good halfback dive dude. I like
watch it for the narrative and likethe competition. If the games don't matter,
I don't fucking care, so right, you know, So, I
just think, uh, football isgetting a little like that where I don't
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know if the NFL cares, Iwould be my most pessimistic take. I
can't believe I think this, butI do a little bit. I think
the NFL only cares about two teamsthis year, okay, which two Chiefs
and Eagles. It does kind offeel that way. I don't. I
think they will be disappointed unless it'sKelsey Bull, which is a bummer because
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same. But I just think that'swhat we've been kind of talking about though.
Like you heard that if you listen. First off, Collinsworth was on
one in the Thursday night Seattle Ninersgame. I don't know if you heard
that. I didn't have that volumeon. Okay, well, first off,
totally get that. That's fine.But one they kept talking about and
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I'm gonna forget his name now,but the tackle who's forty two, who's
on the sea Hall, Jason Peters. Jason Peters was like his calling card,
his point he got hurt. Andthen Collinsworth was like, I did
it again, Like he's like callinghis own spots, he's like calling it
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out. And he literally said inthe game, like I think this forty
nine Ers team bores people because they'rejust kind of good. They're not flashy,
but like they're a good team andI'm like, that's how I feel
like the NFL feels about the Niners, is Yeah, I guess they're good.
Like tell it to me. Besides, Rock Party was an irrelevant quarterback
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from an irrelevant university. Like,yeah, give me something, you know,
explain honestly, just kind of explainthe genius of Kyle Shanahan. Explain
why they're so open on offense.Not that brock perty completed another pass to
George Kittle who has nobody within twentyyards of them. Well, I don't
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know if this is true, butI do know that if this was any
other team and any other player,they'd be saying it. So say it.
Tell me that Christian McCaffrey's the bestrunning back in the league. Talk
to me about like the dominance ofhe's like scoring, He's averaged twenty five
touchdown in his first twenty five gameswith this team, Like what are we
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doing? Like talk about that,like he's on average this season, like
two TV's a game, Like andI know that scheme, but like if
that's you know, Alvin Kamara inyears past, or that's you know,
the Adrian Peterson's of the world,that's that's the story, Like why is
this team not Christian McCaffrey and theBoys or something. Yeah, I think
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they're talking about it, but Ithink they're talking about it in the way
of, oh, if you betthe Christian McCaffrey anytime touchdown for the past
twenty weeks, you would have madethis much money. Yeah, And they're
kind of crediting to your point,they're kind of crediting the system, not
McCaffery. Like, if you goback and watch each one of those Christian
McCaffrey touchdowns, he's running through somebodyon at least half of them, for
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sure. For sure he's and stayinghealthy. Like that's I think the piece
of the McCaffrey story that upsets meis like for years it was his fault
that is quad exploded, and nowhe has no credit for staying on the
field, which I don't know ifhe deserves, but I also know that
like it wasn't his fault in Carolina, They're blocking philosophy, was just like
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Christian hit him really fast. Mmhmm. Yeah. Yeah. He weirdly
is kind of one of the moreunderrated players just in terms of how good
he is. And he's a legitimateMVP candidate because that's why he's under read
Yeah, right, and he's atleast in the odds, like he's up
there. But I think you andI probably both agree that he has a
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zero percent chance to win it,correct, as does any non quarterback.
Yeah, but him especially, Ithink he's got zero. But I don't
know, like I felt that ina few games. Maybe that's a fun
thing to do, like the narrativeof these games, like what's the takeaway?
Like I it's unfortunate of the injuriesin Seattle because it's harder also in
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that circumstance to give Sam frand theirflowers. But like yah, I think
the story sory line there is it'stheir time, right, Like this is
as well built a team as youget, and has less of the luck
of the build in Philly. Ithink, like Philly, there's a feature
of Like don't get me wrong,they're a well run organization, well built
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team, but they have pieces oflike how did they get swift and brown?
Like how did that happen? Likehow did other teams allow that to
take place? You know, theirdefense is home ground and like well built
and kind of slept on, butlike I don't know that and like Jalen
Hurts coming into his own and themkeeping three out their five linemen I think
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for about ten years now, youknow, like those pieces are kind of
fortunate and luck, whereas San Franciscoseems so meticulous and so like, we
grabbed this guy from Iowa to puthim in because we know what our system.
Let Trey Lance and Garoppolo walk.Yeah. Yeah. And even with
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Philly, like the players they drafted, I feel like almost every time,
like a lot of their big playersthat they've drafted the past several years,
it's like it's the negligence of allthe teams ahead of them. Like this
this year they got Jalen Carter andevery pick that went by were like,
why why is Philly gonna get thisguy? This is stupid? Yeah,
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yeah, it's just not fair.And I don't know if I've seen that
with the team, Like I don'tknow if I've ever seen a trade clowned
like the AJ Brown trade. Yeah, that's bad, there there was.
I don't know that that one madeabsolutely no sense. The DeAndre Swift one,
I know there's more merit to that, but like the the I agreed,
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people are were clowning the Lions thanthe Lions kind of look good at
the end. I think that wheneverything shakes out, is somewhat of an
even trade. Yeah, not even, like Philly got a good deal,
but everyone knows why Detroit did itnow true, Now, yes, that's
a very good point, Like itcame out in the wash a little bit.
Yeah, but I think there's somethingto appreciate there, like putting your
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mind. Like also no credit givento the fact of like they said that
during the game, and I waslike, fuck, I forgot they did
that. Chase Young's on the Niners, Like I was like, they're good,
dude, They're so freaking good,like him opposite Bosa, who's like
just definitely won the top five defensiveplayers in the league. Yeah, well
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that this trade is interesting. Peoplearen't giving enough merit or like credit to
this Chase Young trade because the fortynine ers doing something we haven't seen.
What their defensive strategy has been thepast several years that people have emulated,
and it's not fucking rocket science.It's just like, if you can win
with those four guys up front whereyou don't have to blitz to get pressure,
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then that's why their coverage is sogood. They don't really have lockdown
defensive backs and stuff. But nowthey're five strong upfront, and we haven't
seen a team be five strong likethey put Chase Young up there with Bosa
with everybody, and they have fiveguys up front, you can create one
on one matchups and it is itfeels like a zero blitz, like with
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the way they bring pressure. Butthey still have six guys on the back
end defending. So it's something wehaven't seen. And that's something that's like
a I mean, truthfully, that'sthe Philadelphia Eagles. That's the way you
beat the Philadelphia Eagles. That's whythey made that trade. Like it's going
to be insane if they can stayhealthy. Chase Young, I think,
got hurt in the game, sowe'll see what happens. But this is
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one of those things where this couldbe that trade could set off a new
trend in the NFL, and peoplearen't really paying attention to it yet.
Yeah, I agree, And Ijust think in general, like that makes
me think of because I feel likeCuban banging the drum on, Hey everybody,
the Ravens are good all year ofLike, I think the narrative is
that there are less good teams thisyear, and maybe that's true, but
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I think what's really happened is Ithink there are four not good great teams.
Like I think the Eagles, theNiners, the Ravens and the Chiefs
are really well built teams. Andthat's not counting Dallas, who I think
you could make an argument for sneakingin, or the Dolphins who drop seventy
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on somebody, like they're obviously notas well built. But like, I
think there are good teams. Ijust feel like that's the NFL is like,
but are they as good as theEagles and Chiefs or like maybe the
media around it and it's like,I, yeah, I think so,
Like maybe they won't beat them,but I the forty nine ers are for
sure every bit as good as anEagles team. I'll bet against the Chiefs
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when I see it, which ishard. But like, also, the
Ravens have been pretty damn good forabout five years now, only possibly derailed
by the diabetes. King Yeah thatwas that. Yeah he's out for the
season. Mark Andrews. That didn'teven look serious, So that's weird.
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Yeah, Eagles will see what happens. Like, I don't think their offensive
line is a top three offensive line, which is the first time we've said
that in a while. Yeah,so let's see what happens there. Dolphins,
I think are getting worse. Ithink the narrative around the Chiefs has
swung to they're not very good nowthough, and I know you see through
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it. I do as well.Yeah, but like their offense is for
sure not clicking, it's not playingvery well. I just maybe maybe I'm
just blindly saying this, I suppose, but I just feel like they're going
to figure it out. And thenonce they figure it out, uh oh,
their defense is one of the betterones in the NFL too, and
now their offense is just a normalChiefs offense. So yeah, well,
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I think what we're seeing. Anddon't get me wrong, I always borderline
like it's not like they're losing onpurpose, right, like they want to
win all of these games. ButI think there's a little bit of spurs
to it of in our division,we're we're not going to lose, like
the Broncos are behind us at fiveand five, Like we're absolutely fine,
(33:19):
we are gonna win this division nomatter what. So what do you do
you make what is the weakness ofyour offense, your wide like your wide
receivers, in my opinion, notgreat. You've you've basically decided we can
use budget wide receivers other teams threesand twos because we've got Travis Kelcey,
we've got Patrick Mahomes and eventually someonewill really click and it will work.
(33:45):
So I think they're trying to getin the click. But what I imagine
is going to happen once we hitthe postseason is they're going to start targeting
Travis about three times four times adrive. Yeah, I would assume that's
what happens. It seems like thesafest thing to do. Bill Belichick used
to say over and over again,like during their dynasty, that you know,
(34:06):
games don't really start to matter untilafter Thanksgiving. We won't know what
team we are until after Thanksgiving.And you know, I think that's kind
of the same thing with the Chiefs. To your point, there's no pressure
behind them. That was the wholething with the Patriots forever. There's nobody
else in the AFC, So let'sjust get the Thanksgiving. As long as
we're still in the driver's seat,we're good to go. Chiefs are in
(34:27):
the driver's seat. I think theiroffense is going to get figured out,
and like I said, their defenseis getting slept on because of how poor
their offense is. They made theThanksgiving They're gonna be fine. I'm not
gonna be fine with them. Also, they've got three losses and I'm only
one of them is a head scratcher, Like first week against Detroit doesn't count,
(34:49):
Like, it just doesn't. It'searly against a clear playoff team who
was way like they were the firstteam to figure out Detroit was way better
than everyone thought they were going tobe, so right. Chiefs also didn't
have Travis Kelcey or Chris Jones andshould have won. Yeah, uh so
uh. The Denver loss is weird. I don't like twenty four to nine
(35:14):
wasn't even a competitive game. Like, but Denver Denver's we talked about.
They're the They're the raven of theNFL. You know, they're weird.
Sometimes they get a push, sometimesthey don't. You know, dude loves
gotta get his wins. So uh. And then Phillies or Phillies Eagles doesn't
count. Congrats you lost to thebest team in the NFL. Besides maybe
(35:37):
you like cool Syriotti got so cockyafter that one too, and I'm just
like, uh, oh, youdon't, don't do this to yourself.
This is how many times did youhave to see the Colts feat the Patriots
in the regular season? But thatis the plan. You don't want to
win the first one. I know. That's dumpling. You do not want
(35:58):
to because you don't want to.You don't want to show yourn. That
was all I was singing during thatgame, was like Chiefs have got more
in the tank. M hm ohfor sure for sure, So oh my
god, I'm not worried about themat all. They they played the Raiders
this Sunday win. They play us, not us, but the Packers.
Uh next week, if they playedus, watch out. I'm scrappy.
(36:22):
Still yeah, still, I likethat. I don't know if we'd win,
but I'm not going down without Kelsey'sknee for sure. Yeah, I'll
play dirty. I'm not too proudfor sure. Good luck the rest of
the season. But that's a win. I think they beat Buffalo like that's
tough. Sure, that's a tossup. But you beat New England,
you beat Vegas again, you beatthe Bengals, you beat the Chargers like
(36:44):
they may be end the season withfour losses like they're they're fine everybody.
So I don't know they're really fuckinggood. I do think eventually like tight
Ends age fast. That's not adiss on Travis, like whatever happens the
rest of his career, he's aHall of Famer. So like, I
don't know. I think sometimes peopleare like afraid with Kelsey, especially after
(37:06):
this year, to be like ishe getting older? No, he definitely
is, Like he's not the samethreat. And I do think it's wild
that I think they're most talented widereceivers MBS and I just don't think that's
and it's a toss up. Maybeyou say peck like I don't, but
I think it needs to be better. I think they need a more clear
one for sure. And they've tried. They've just swung and missed. They've
(37:30):
been doing that since Dwayne Bowie likelike they have not. They are not
good at producing. That was likethe Alex Smith years of like can we
please get a wide out? Theyhad a year with Alex Smith where they
didn't throw a touchdown pass to awide receiver the entire season. No,
it's all tight ends. It's justcrazy like and like since and even Hill
(37:55):
for a while, like then hebroke out, but Hill was kind of
like a backup option, like Hillgot you a lot of yards and then
all of a sudden, it waslike Mahomes kind of came in and figured
out, Oh, I can justthrow it ten feet further and no one's
gonna catch them. But I don'tknow. I just think they never replaced
Tyreek and no true, it's notlike they didn't want to, so that'd
(38:22):
be the I guess, like thearmchair quarterback thing they need. But also
they can literally beat anyone in theleague. I don't know. I like
the NFL still, I'm excited forpost Thanksgiving football, but if you keep
telling me no one's gonna beat thesetwo teams, I'm not gonna care when
(38:42):
they do beat those two teams,Like that's my thing is, like you
know what, be a bummer.I don't think I would care if the
Bills beat the Chiefs, and thatshould be like a moment, like out
of all the teams left in it, Like if the Bills knock the Chiefs
out of the playoffs, that's likefive years in the making and off of
(39:05):
the Tamar Hamlin thing, yeah,I yeah, I have zero interest in
the Bills, and I think everyone'skind of there as well. I know,
just any team. Like it's likeI just don't know if they've done,
I'll be bumped because you've told meI'm gonna get Kelsey Bowl too.
That's like I feel like the marketing, but I don't know. I'm trying
to get into it. Like mybig fear is I think there's some fun
(39:29):
options if the Chiefs don't make it. I don't know how much appetite people
are gonna have for the super Bowlif Jason Kelsey doesn't make it on the
NFC side, because I think that'swhat we're hearing is like he got the
show. I think it's all aboutlike let's let him win and like right
off into the sunset. So it'slike if it's a forty nine Ers Ravens
(39:52):
super Bowl, like people watch becauseit's a super Bowl. But I think
that's the worst scenario because I don'tthink they're marketing to your point of Niners
correctly, and I don't think they'remarketing Lamar Jackson correctly. I think the
best case scenario is if the Cowboysmake it out of the NFC, because
I think people hate the Cowboys somuch that that's the villain that the Chiefs
(40:12):
need because the Chiefs aren't at theheel for whatever reason. No, I
agree, and I think you're probablyright. That kind of caught me by
surprise, but I think you're notthat you were right, but you know,
oh fine, not. I waslike, what the fuck are you
talking about? Like are we justyelling random downs whale shark? But no,
(40:35):
I because I said earlier in theseason, I wanted the Bengals,
which is now obviously not gonna happen. I wanted the Bengals to knock out
the Chiefs. So we got Burrowbeats the Chiefs again, and we've got
a heal for Philly to beat.But I agree, I think that's probably
the best option because I don't know, Oh, it's just not gonna happen.
(40:59):
But I mean the other heel inthe AFC is the Dolphins, so
I would take that. I don'tknow people view them as a heel,
though I do other than I do, but like it's just because I hate
to, uh true, but Ijust think they'll be so cocky. I
don't think you have to work hardto be a heel if it's the Eagles.
(41:20):
So that's that's all I'm saying,is like, in that matchup,
you don't agree, but I Idon't like their coach. It comes to
uh no, no, Dolphins coachMcDaniel. McDaniel and hard Knocks just started
this week. By the way,with the Dolphins, we'd be good friends.
(41:44):
We'd be good friends. And that'swhy it makes me mad that he's
succeeding so much. Uh No,I don't know, Like I just think
I just don't love they me it'sTyreek just poisoning the whole team for me
because I loathe him. But Iby the way, in season Hard Knocks,
there's a whole scene with his uhnow fiance I believe maybe maybe wife,
(42:07):
maybe a wife, But I'm like, oh, he's the one he
didn't abuse. Cool, Like weneed to stop, like forgetting about it,
dear NFL google him. It's bad. So I don't know, So
I think that could be an option. Is like, I think they are
a cocky, cocky team, soI think they would. I here's what
(42:30):
I'll say, No matter what youthink of them, now, who's ever
listening to this? I think ifit was them Eagles, they'd be the
bad guys, and I think that'sa role they would thrive in, so
that I guess talking through it iswhat I'm rooting for outside of Kelsey Bowl
too. But to your point,I don't know if we get Kelsey Bowl,
(42:52):
if it's like a lot of peopleare going to be cheering for Kansas
City, which is crazy to me. M Yeah, people don't like Siriani.
He's made the Eagles heel for sure, I will no matter what you
think of Taylor Swift. And thisis mostly towards Uzac. If it's Kelsey
Bowl, we gotta get Cush UsherCusher. We gotta get Usher the fuck
(43:15):
out of there, right, it'sgotta be her. Let's do it up.
Let's just make a lot of money. Sometimes it's okay just to make
a lot of money. And Ithink, like if I turn into the
Kelsey Bowl and then I hear yeah, it's like, okay, this feels
like I should be hearing love story, you know. I mean, does
(43:38):
what does Taylor Swift bring? Like? Do you make more money with Taylor
Swift versus anybody else? Yes,because anybody else I don't know more than
Usher. She just is more ofa draw people will watch. Do you
know how much money people paid justto watch a Taylor Swift concert? So,
(44:00):
like, I just think you willmake more money because she is more
desirable to watch right now than Usheris. Like, my mom cares about
Taylor Swift. She doesn't care aboutUsher, so she'll watch the whole game.
Did you mind watch last Super Bowl? No, she watched Rihanna.
She likes Rihanna, But I justlisten. Maybe my beef's with Usher.
(44:23):
Maybe I just don't think he's wellmarketable. But I think I think there's
I'm not saying a ton, Ithink it could be a ton, But
I think there are people who areSwifties who won't watch a whole fucking football
game, who would watch and tunein for like, because oh god,
(44:44):
is she gonna get bad? WhenI say this, I'm gonna throw Claire
under the bus a little bit.Claire is a sports fan, more into
football than I think most Swifties are. She doesn't watch a whole football games.
She waits for the Tiktoks to comeout of all Taylor on the thing.
So I don't think they would tuneinto the Super Bowl just watch Taylor,
but they'd tune in and she wasa halftime show. I for sure.
(45:06):
I think there's a little bit,but I don't think it's significant.
You're a hater. Well, Ijust think everyone watches the Super Bowl.
Interesting, that's your take. Oh, I don't know. Last year,
I didn't get to do you rememberthat, I do, I do.
There was a situation death threats.I had to go but witchcraft death threats,
(45:31):
But I forgot about the winds partof it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, so yeah, I didn'tget to see I didn't get to see
second half. Yeah that was whatwas Yeah, the most expensive baby announcement
of all time, I think iswhat they're calling it. I think that
is what they're calling it. Well, z that any other football talks before
we get to the bottom half ofthe show here with some stuff, Uh
(45:55):
no, I got nothing else.I think we should get to our final
couple things relatively quickly, though.Let's do it. Don't need to keeep
the people dragging along. I knowyou got something that will make me angry
about baseball. I want to seeif if irks me, because I just
think it's the most GM fucking thingever, The GM of the Cardinals.
(46:19):
They're pitching. By the way,ZAC has been bottom five in the league
for the last five seasons. Inthat time, until this year, they've
been pretty good and it's like youjust need pitching, Go get some pitching.
Last year they fucking sucked. Theywere really, really bad. But
in the middle of that sect,they traded away two of their young pitchers,
one of which Jordan Montgomery went andhelped. He was like, I
(46:42):
think if not the MVP of oneof the playoff series, was clearly the
best pitcher for the Rangers in theplayoffs, so he wins a ring.
Nice job. Cardinals didn't keep him, so they had no pitching and now
they have even less. So theyliterally had two of five starting pitchers going
into the off season. Their GMZ that comes out and goes, listen,
(47:07):
we know what the problem is.It's pitching. We're we are dedicated
to get three pitchers this offseason.First off, you had to you literally
had to like came out and waslike, this is our time, We're
doing it. It's like yeah,yeah, yep, literally, yep.
Absolutely. It's like the Chets beinglike we're exploring options at quarterback. Yeah,
(47:30):
for sure, are You're right?Like way to go two, they
said they were gonna get three,right cool. They immediately signed two old
ass guys on one year deals.They went and got old Kyle Gibson,
who I love because he used toplay for the Twins, but that tells
you everything you need to know abouthis ceiling for talent. And Lance Lynn,
(47:53):
who also used to play for theTwins, and the last time we
saw him in the playoffs, Ibelieve gave up four home runs in one
inning for the Dodgers. These areguys who eat up inning, Zach.
They are old. Let me thinkof another sports comparison. It would be
like the Lakers come out and they'relike, you know, we're gonna we're
gonna go get some starters, andthey bring in of course j R.
(48:15):
Smith and Tosh Gibson, Like it'slike cool, great, like yes,
yeah, it's like okay, awesome. I guess they can play. But
they didn't even try and get andnow they're like their fans like yelled at
them the gems like whoa, westill got one more and it's like yeah,
but like we're not doing anything,Like it's just the most gm thing
(48:38):
ever to be Like told you alreadygot to three. You're missing the big
picture, Jake. There's one moreleft, and they're going for the Bakerhunadi,
come on, come to Saint Louis. It's it's a beautiful place to
be. It'd be awesome, notleast of which because he can't pitch this
(48:59):
year. Ah okay, well youknow big picture, long time no,
but it'd be awesome. That'd beso good because it would be great and
they'd be like, told you threepictures, like, okay, one of
them can't throw, but he's awesome, so we'd allow it. But listen,
maybe they get it. But that'sall their fans have been. It
(49:20):
feels very tense because their fans arelike these losers. They told us they
were gonna get three, they're notgonna go get the third one. And
the GM basically came out and waslike, you can't get mad at us
before we let you down. Likehe's tried to like set a thing,
like he's like, hey, thatwasn't supposed to be the trick. You're
supposed to like let the market playout and then we can be like,
(49:42):
oh we tried, yeah, yeah, hold hold your groans for now.
Get ready. There's more common yeah, I don't. I just like it's
one of those things. I don'tknow why it irks me so much,
but it's like when GM's at theirown market. Yeah, it really pisses
me off, especially when they're thenlike why are you mad? And it's
(50:07):
like, because you don't get tojust say that's what our goal was.
That's like the like Baseball, bythe way, kings of that. The
Mariners GF came out, this isanother winning line. He came out and
said, our goal is in aten year span to have is to win
sixty percent of our games. Whosegoal is that? What do you mean
(50:29):
your goals do? With a fuckingchampionship? You don't get to come out
here just make up a goal.Yeah, hang the hang the pennant,
hang the batter. Sixty win rateand yeah I know. And also yes,
that is astronomically good in a back. It's also a future goal.
What does that do for me?True? True, that's stupid. That's
(50:53):
the same thing when I hear Idon't know if this is too political,
but I'm just throwing it out there. When people tell me we're going to
save the planet by twenty fifty,I don't know what that means no,
yeah, yeah, I don't know. What does that mean? What am
I doing? How many points arewe doubt? Right? Now? Let
me know? Is this gonna bethe biggest comeback in history? So that's
(51:15):
true? Like I don't know theyalways how come we don't have a goal
for twenty twenty five? Yeah,it's true. Now let's push it down
the road. Hopefully we forget causeI don't know if they grew up with
Brenda Osmond. But if I triedto say I'd have my room cleaned by
twenty fifty, I think she kickedmy ass. Yeah, you just trust
me. You can't complain Now,you gotta wait until then. If I
(51:37):
keep up this pace, We're almostthere. Mom, I told you that
I would clean up my room ina three day span and not days one
and two. I folded my socks, so you can't get mad at me
yet. That's the Cardinals, Baby, I did it. I got two
guys. Uh. It's just it'sso funny me, especially the literal like
(51:59):
it'd be like after the Crosby thatleft the packers being like, we're gonna
get a kicker, Yeah yeah,yeah, like you need one? Cool?
Great, I'm glad you acknowledge theempty locker in the locker room.
Yeah, I don't know. Andmaybe it'll work, like if they go
get an ace cool, but itjust reaps of cheapskate. Yeah, we'll
(52:22):
revisit this and you know, onemonth when they start playing or something true
or true true true true. ButZach, you have a list for me.
Critically, I don't know what thislist is, right, So I
got a list of things here.They're all they're all part of one collection.
(52:42):
Here, I will say, we'llend the show on this. I'm
just gonna read some things off andI want you to tell me what this
is. And I'm gonna see howmany of these it'll take for you to
get it. Big list here,so I need to choose the right ones,
but I think you can get it. My goal is three or less.
You'll know what it is. Okay, Okay, I feel I feel
pretty good about that. Let's startwith MM how Okay, I'm gonna start
(53:09):
with sort of an obscure one.It's go eat worms? Any thought U
go eat worms? Yes, I'mgonna throw out that. It's some sort
(53:29):
of scramble of a name. Okay, Okay, Number two say cheese and
die. Oh okay, hold on, can I do the math on that?
No? No, no, okay, those are different letters. Okay,
so can't be my guess, sayJesus and die? Wait a minute,
(53:52):
why do I feel like that inparticular is familiar to me? Definitely?
Is? Uh? Say cheese anddie? Are these band names?
No? But the next one thatI have cue up would be a great
band name. That's all I thought. The listens were like things that we've
(54:14):
said would be great band names.Okay, what's next? Okay? The
Abominable Snowman of Pasadena? These arethese are movies? These are say Cheese
(54:37):
and Die is the one I'm hungup on because what if I tell you?
What if I told you? Anotherone on the list is say Cheese
and Die again? Are are these? Uh? Fuck? But which are
they? These aren't Hallmark movies?No? There are they netflick movies.
(55:01):
I'm unsure if their movies or not. It's a possibility that they were also
movies. Oh oh, this isthe abominal snowmen in Pasadena. That was
one of them. Yep, theseare goosebump books. Yeah yeah, yeah
(55:22):
yeah. That one was also ticklingmy brain because of how specific it was.
I'm not gonna lie you started witha great one, because then I
just started ignoring Goat eat Worms becauseI was like, I don't I can't
place that. But there's so many, I mean, the Wizard of Ooze.
(55:45):
Great Goosebump titles are awesome, They'revery fun. Goat eat Worms is
not grammar. That's my favorite partof that one. No. I have
the list of all the Goosebump booktitles and they go through some weird phases.
There's one that's just where was itdoctor maniac versus Robbie Schwartz, And
(56:09):
I just want to know. RobbieSchwartz is like, that doesn't seem like
it fits. He works in thebank. Yeah, I don't doubt,
Like, uh, it's just aguy. I don't know. After like
the one and sixtieth title, Ibelieve is what this means here is just
class. That's it. I thinkit's a Jaws spin off because there's an
(56:32):
exclamation point at the end, howI Met my Monster. Funny Earth geeks
must go probably read that one,did you. Yeah, there's some the
incredible shrinking fifth grader say cheese anddie hit A part of my brain that
(56:53):
I was not expecting. Like,I was like, yeah, what is
that? Yeah, there's one that'sjust it came from Ohio. Oh no,
that's the that's the R. L. Stein auto biography. It came
from Ohio. I was gonna say, I've read that one. This tickles
the same part of my brain assaying Heith Miller's name, true, true,
(57:16):
the blob that ate everyone. Ifeel like I remember that good one,
good one. What's the there's apuppet one? Let me just see
if or maybe Mannequin Night of thePuppet People. Yeah, good bumps.
I mean, we're just going throughthis Scholastic book thing right now, which
(57:38):
I love. By the way,Yeah for sure, Trick or Trapped,
the Night of the Living Dummy.Okay, yeah, I do remember that
one. Actually, well, Ihope. So there's fucking three of them.
Oh really okay, yeah, definitely. Uh that's a great list.
(58:00):
It's a great list. There's somany good things on here, so many
good things. I'm gonna say,though, Jake, this is the end
of the show, because I hearmy dog barking, and I think there
is some what of here. SoI'd like to implore everybody once again volume
one dot org slash best of Golog in, vote for your boys,
(58:21):
vote for three podcasts, including theFlory Sports Podcast. Other Flory Sports podcasts
on there are Lombardi Sweep, IDon't Think So, and Fantasy Football by
Committee. Definitely go check them allout. And we got two weeks.
We got two weeks. Next week, I promise some money making tips for
(58:42):
you to one up those motherfuckers fromour CU. There you go. I
always hear trap. That's that's mytip. I don't know
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