Jason "Freakin" Bateman (Ep. 175)

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podcast. Wow, it's gotta bethe most catching one that we've had.
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the charm. How you doing to? I feel great? I want AI
to just keep complimenting me. AndI didn't prompted that at all. I
just said the podcast with Zach andJake and blah blah blah, and it's

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you know what, I'm like,Yeah, you're the heart of the show.
Hey, I really really cut throughthat that this is the most catchy.
I've been singing this around my housefor the past week. When that
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I say, welcome back to theRanking Show because everyone, ladies and
gentleman, buckle up. This firstpart of the show is a crossover for
those who don't know us or don'tknow Jake. I should say for the
Ranking Show, usually it's myself,Trevor, and Luke, we usually have
a special guest. On today,we are going to be ranking all of
the WrestleMania matches and to do that, I'm bringing on Jake Osmond, who

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is my co host for the FlourySports podcast. If you like this,
definitely go over there and listen tothe Flory Sports Podcast. A lot of
goofs about sports, and later onin the show, we actually do have
a segment with Jake's dad hating oncollege coaches. It's gonna be pretty fun.
It's gonna be a game. IfI win, I'll get ten bucks.
So definitely go over there and seeif I won or not. But

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yeah, we're just gonna be talkingabout WrestleMania. Before we get to that,
I should say, I guess thewomen's college National Championship happened, Jake,
and congratulations to Iowa for losing thebiggest accomplishment in sports. That's all
I've heard about today. Caitlyn Clarkdid everything she could have. Everything there
is to accomplish in college sports,she did, so congratulations to her.

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Yeah, and congrats to Don Staleyfor congratulating Iowa. I think that was
her big accomplishment. That that wasgood. It is, you know what
it is? One of my favoritesports stories is can the team with one
really great player overcome the team that'sbetter than them in every way? You

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know? Because that was crazy.Uh, It's been a while since I've
watched a basketball team like Caitlyn Clarkcan score it will, which is fun
to watch. Uh. South Carolinalooked like they were actively trying not to
just go on eleven point runs thewhole time. I mean, they're better.
I wish, I wish anyone knewwho won. No one knows who

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won the game. If you askmost people who won the national championship,
they'll probably still say Iowa or theydon't lost. Yeah, either Iowa or
not Iowa. But like, whoknows who knows? Because it was just
all Katelyn Clark today, still Iknow, which is a shame. Because
guess who's gonna be really good againnext year? South South Carolina. Uh,

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you know who's not going to bevery good next year? Who oh
guys? Yeah, no kidding,no kidding. I did hear a lot
today like, well, if Caitlynhad a better team than that, she
would have won. Okay, fine, fine, Why couldn't they have recruited
people to play with Kitlyn Clark?Why do you think they could it?
I understand it's a shame that theone good white college basketball girl lost,

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and now we've got nothing to talkabout a team that should have what did
but the white girl losses. Wedon't care anymore. We don't care.
That's right, and that's why Zach. We now turn our attention to the
big inter racial hope that is rightin Zach Edy's time to shine. Yeah,
you know, it's not quite catchy, but it is I believe ethnically

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accurate. So uh, I wantto start something here. We've given Zach
Edie a lot of shit. Ifyou've listened to the show ranking fans,
you don't maybe know this, butwe've given him quite a bit of shit.
A video has gone around recently thatI don't think matters at all,
And I don't know why we careof him going into a I believe normal

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sized room. It looks like acabinet. Uh, with just a girl
at a party. Have you seenthis? It was like it was like
Zack Edy call on the Act andhe's at a party with a goal who
I believe is his girlfriend. Theyjust go into another room and everyone's like
what is he up to? AndI'm like, I don't know, he's
a college student. He's not likehe didn't hit her on the head and

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drag her into a room. They'rejust going into a room together. I
don't know. Can we just havea fun basketball game? No? We
could not. We could not.Everything's a story with the seven foot five
guys. I mean, you knowyou're sick say it and I would say,
like, what's where's Jake going?I will say if I can nitpick

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my own nitpick. I did alsohear a lot of people who were like,
why were they videotaping him? AndI'm like, I've been random places
and been videotaped, because how amI going to fit into that door?
It's the video, Well let's seewhat happens here. One hundred percent.
Uh, that was one time Iworked in the house construction. Instead of

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helping me carry something through two byfours because I had the tiptoe through them,
people just took photos of me.I was like, this is incredibly
unhelpful. But you know, tonightas we record this, all go Yukon.
I mean, it's the game weall wanted and now we get to
see it. So it's actually thegame neither of us wanted, but here

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we are. No. No,I I'm cheering for Yukon too. I
don't know why people would cheer forPurdue, but it's a little bit of
a redemption story. Plus Yukon justwon, so I understand those pieces of
it. It's one of those whereit's like, I hope the game is
as good as advertised. It'll beinteresting if it out earns lsu Iowa on

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the women's side. I think itwill. But also that was a Friday
night and had Caitlin Clark and Angelrecent it, so we'll see. I
hate the Monday National Championship. YeahI'm trying to watch raw you know.
Yeah, Yeah, I'm not intoit, and I'm also not into redemption
stories, which I think we willfind out later the show pretty big redemption

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story actually happened at wrestle Media.I listen. I don't want to.
I don't want to blow up anyone'sspot because I think the fun of the
show is finding out what people's opinionsare. Zach Zach. I could put
money on what I think Zach's favoritematch was, and it's not right.
Probably you probably could. But yeah, So what we are going to be

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doing today is we are going tobe doing a tier ranking of every single
WrestleMania match. And this is whatwe'll preface us with. Usually, like
what WrestleMania forty match, right,We're not going through every single media yeah,
okay, thank you, correct,Yes, WrestleMania forty, the two
night show that just happened. We'renot going through the previous thirty nine WrestleMania's

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even though Jackass match dear, Imean, yeah, that's the best one.
Jake is a current wrestling fan,like the everyday wrestling fan, I
will say, and I am theold school wrestling fan who has come back,
and I pay attention to like someclips on social media, and then
I'll watch WrestleMania and I'll watch RoyalRumble. That's kind of where I'm at.

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Every once in a while, I'lldip in and out, but I
live through social clips for the mostpart. So those are the two different
mindsets we're talking about here. Andthen also I should say spoiler alert for
all of these matches. Correct Ifyou, for some reason are a wrestling
fan who found yourself on this videoand don't want it spoiled, I don't

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know what to tell you, butwe are for sure going to be spoiling
every match, I assume, andmaybe telling you which ones you should go
back and watch. Right. Ifyou're maybe an old school wrestling fan who
didn't watch live, maybe you watchcollege basketball, maybe don't know if it's
worth it, maybe whatever, Forsure, we will be giving you the
matches you should go specifically watching.You'll have the perspectives of the casual and

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the diehard. So if we agreeon a match, then you know you
can take that. I suppose,yeah, for sure. So we got
here our tier rankings, and Ithink I have the matches in order,
so nice sign my tab. Thenumber one tier, as always, is

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the God tier. It's going tobe hard to get there, but I
think some may get there. Thenwe got a damn good match a decent
match, and then the lowest ismeth and I'm putting me as the lowest
this week because I don't think there'sany bad matches. I will say that,
No, I think, and thiscould be spoilers for what ends up
going there. I think there wasone I really disliked and the people involved

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were also involved in night too,and I they had a good night too,
So I'm willing to forgive it veryfair. And usually we have three
so it's easy to balance it out. But you know, if we're on
opposite ends of the spectrum or whatever, we will balance in default to the
higher one. I'll just say that, because it's the Monday after WrestleMania,

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we're being positive. Everything was goodnew era, the Triple Ah era well,
and what a good call by USCbecause people are listening to this because
this is what I do. Youenjoyed the show, and you want to
hear other people enjoyed the show,So let me start there. This is
the most fun I've ever had watchinga wrestling show I got to besides maybe
Jackass Mania, which is also whereBrock came out of the tractor, I

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believe. So that's tough, youknow, that's a tough mania to be
but and we watched that one together, but this one I watched with friends
on night one and then watched alot of stuff back very late at night
too. So yeah, I can'twait to talk about it because regarded already
as one of the best manias alltime. So I can't wait to get

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into it. And I think we'llfind this out. But I will just
say off the top, I thinkNight two head and shoulders better than Night
one? Correct? And what doyou think of the declaring this as the
Triple H Era? Do you thinkthat was overkill saying it so many times?
Do you agree with it? Like? What's your thoughts on that?

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Ww's very smart in this way.They're not telling you that because we didn't
know it. They're telling you thatso that when we guess when they you
know, they declared the Attitude era, like a good six months a year
into the Attitude area, so youcouldn't go back and watch kind of the
shit that started it. It hasn'tbeen all roses since Triple H's joined,

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And I think it's very smart thatthey're like, now that he has total
complete control and he knew the showwas going to be a banger like he
pooked last year's media like, soI think it's a little like I don't
know if this is the start ofit, but I understand why they're putting
the prints on it here because it'sgoing to be so positively received and what

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a good positive start for it.I certainly think it's his air. I
just don't know if it's started today. That okay, yeah, that's very
fair, very fair, But let'sjust start then. Night one, match
one, we had Ria Ripley versusBecky Lynch. That was for the women's
championship, one of them, right, yeah, okay, I'll you know,

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we'll go back and forth with opinions. First, I will say and
for this one, I thought thiswas the best of the women's matches there
were three, believe. I thoughtthe wrestling was good, which I think
is very very very hit or missedwith women the talent that they have currently
with women's wrestlers, and that's nota slight on them. They don't make

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it on camera very often, soyou get better at it. But I
agree with that. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was damn good.
I would put in that second tier. I thought I was a really good
match. I'm glad you're there sostrongly on it, because I was in
between decent and damn good, andI honestly think some of that is I

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liked Night two so much more thanNight one that I was for this to
start Night one. I'm like,uh, but it was killer. I
think you could make an argument thatthe person who was presented the best on
either night was Rhea Ripley. Imean the entrance with the live band,
and she just looked like a badassthe whole time, and to your point,

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just a really good match. Thereason I was on the line is
because this, to me was oneof the most predictable matches on either night.
But awesome. I wish Becky's storylineWasn't I have a book for this
match I was really excited about.But what a good match? As good

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in the ring as anything on eithernight, I think. And again,
so Jake has more background on allof these fights, and I have pretty
surface level, so I didn't reallyknow the storyline going in. So your
criticisms, I'm sure a fair minewas almost solely just the in ring,
and I liked that. Okay,that'll be a good dichonomy because some of

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these let me down, maybe moreor I liked more because of what led
up to it. But yeah,I weird that she just had a belt
that was her book. Yeah thatis. And I did know she had
a book coming in. That issomething I was told about somewhere. I
don't remember where, but interesting.Oh I think mc foley. Actually I
watched the Big Foley video, soI went, damn good, where are

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you at? I agree? Damngood? Okay. Next one was the
six tag Ladder match, which comingin I call. I told Lindsay,
who I watched it with, Ithink this is going to be my favorite
match of all of Mania because itjust seemed it was built in a way
where it's just going to be completechaos, and I thought it was pretty

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good for the most part. I'ma huge ur truth guy. Correct.
Yeah, so he won twice,which I think is pretty cool. I'm
in between decent and damn good.I'd like to hear what you have to
say though. For me, damngood. I love like Goofy over the

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top wrestling. I was so excitedabout thinking back about how much more like
Night two. I like this showstart a lot. The hot tag and
pin spot is great. I reallyliked the stipulation. I liked that there
were two separate things people were goingfor. I really liked this spot where

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after I thought it was weird howquick one of the belts got one,
so like, I think the matchtook a while to warm up. But
I liked that once a town downUnder won the first belt, we had
that moment where they stopped a differentteam from winning. I was like,
oh my god, New Day isgonna win and they came back, which
I was like, I didn't eventhink about them still being involved. So

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I thought that was well booked.And there was some spots where I'm like,
this is this is fucking killer.I don't think like a normal ladder
match where there's you know, asmany crazy spots. But for me,
damn good simply because our truth winningis like incredible. That was really really

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good. Yeah. I to me, it's better than decent because I would
rewatch it. I would too,I would do to your knowledge, have
they done a match like this beforethe both take titles in no, no,
and did it specifically to split thebelts. They've never done it into
my knowledge in this way, thisfirst time this type of match has ever

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happened cool. I mean, that'shonestly a cool thing too. Yeah,
I like the structure rules, whateveryou want to say. Okay, So
this next one was the Mystereo tagteam with two other people that I didn't
know. Correct, what's your thoughtson this one? Well, it gets
I had more fun with it thanI thought I would. Had my thoughts

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because I'll be comfortable sharing them assomeone who's watching it. This was theirn
together at the last minute. Imean, they subbed out Lee for Andrade,
which I liked because I thought Andredecame over the best in this match.
I thought he looked so good,so I like that. But I
I like Ray and Dominic haven't beenfeuding all year. They'd started up again
like a few weeks ago, sonot a ton of bill. I thought

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they gave it pretty decent on SmackDown, and I loved that they This was
the spot where they got Jason Kelceinvolved, was funny and that was a
good ending. But I was expectingthis to be men and for me it
was decent. Yeah. I thinkI'm around meth to decent as well,

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so we'll put it in decent it. Yeah, it didn't it just didn't
seem like, well, it's alsotough because we just came off with two
championship matches and there really wasn't anythingon the line, and it just felt
that way, and I didn't knowif there was no storyline truly coming in
other than I've seen Ray and Dominicfight in the like the last two pay

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per views I've seen, which arethe only two pay per reviews I've seen
in the past year, I guesstechnically, so, yeah, it just
seems like we haven't gone anywhere withthat story, which is weird, and
I feel like they could have gonemore fun. Like it's like, I
feel like they played it a littletoo balance, like if you were going
to have two Philadelphia Eagles come outof Luchador mass and they slingshot the one

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guy fifty feet, like let's doit the whole time, Like let's have
a stipulation. I mean, andmaybe I'm comparing it to a match.
I think we're gonna like a lotmore on nine two, But I think
you could have had more fun withit. So I agree for where it's
at. I'm interested if we agreein our opinions on this next one,
which is brother versus brother USO versusUSA. Yeah, so the USO's fought

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again. I very slightly know thestoryline. I knew one of them left
the bloodline and that's about all Itruly know. And I mean the Lil
Wayne entrance is cool. I likedthat. Yeah, I really are they
leading really hard in the whole intothe whole yeat thing like that. I

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didn't like that. That just reallywell, the crowd got really into it,
so now it's his whole thing.Yeah, that seems lame. This
seemed like the most Mickey Mouse yeahsort of thing. I don't like.
These are like the the elementary schoolswrestlers. It felt like this like this
one wasn't for me. This onewas for the elementary kids who are still

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up watching. So I thought thiswas decent. I don't think it was
bad. A lot of kicking thatthey really like their kicks. Yeah,
that's about it for me. Imean the background narrative I would give is
I feel like the talk online isthat this match Roumin Night one really poorly
well received. Very I don't knowwhy I threw the word well in they're

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very poorly received. I think,to me the most disappointing part is the
story was. I feel like theyhad to pick an angle. I feel
like they didn't make the story hereas good as it could have been because
I don't think they wanted to takeaway from the other bloodline stuff, which
I understand. I don't know thenwhy you just have them spamming the same

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two moves over and over again.It did feel like in the video games
when you try and make two tagteam wrestlers fight each other and they only
knew five moves, Like, I'mlike, why do I feel like your
overall is eighty two? I feellike you don't know as much as this
other character. So I just thoughtthey were gonna come in and get really

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creative with it. It didn't feelparticularly heated. I also, my hope
is that the next time we seethem, it's like First Blood or just
like the something more intense than like, let's just yeah. That's my only
hope is they were saving stuff forthe next time I am with you.

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Probably fairly, I don't think it'sbad. I think it's meh because I
did laugh at parts of it,and I did like I was pumped at
J one, So I think theydid that part good and I care about
it. I just think they couldhave done it better. So for me,
it's a man, I'll actually changemine to meth. Then, the

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way you're talking it did completely remindme of if you're playing Street Fighter with
your friend and you both picked thesame character and it's just kit kit kit
kick, it's all it was.It was Yeah, Yeah, it wasn't
great. Next one was the threev three women's match. There was no

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stakes, right, no stakes.Kind of the stakes were like the one
team damage Control is EOS Entourage.It was like, we're gonna fight you
so the numbers don't get in theway of the other match tomorrow night.
So I think is kind of thething, like we're fighting back against the
bad guys. Yeah, what wereyour thoughts here? The shortest match maybe

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on either night I think felt thatway. Yeah, I would say so.
I think this was probably my probablymy second least favorite match of the
entire two night card. It wasjust pretty boring for the most part.
Nothing really happened, and as soonas they said something about how Naomi would

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be like the most winningest women wrestlerand rest Slamani history or something, yeah,
it feels like, oh this isher make right from the shit that
happened before. So I thought itwas decent and for sure wasn't bad.
There was some okay spots, butit just it seemed very one note.
There weren't really very many highs inthis one. Yeah, I'm totally with

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you. I think it's decent.I don't think they were given a lot.
Like I said, it was quick. It was also clearly the most
predictable match, Like I think thatspeaks Moms that you picked up on Naomi's
pieces being predictable, because to me, that was like she was the least
obvious winner, and she was stillobvious because Bianca is undefeated at WrestleMania and

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very not secretly they're like, let'sgive her an Undertaker run. So I
think we've got that in our futureprobably, and so they wanted to keep
that ball rolling, and Jade isnew and is like the thing I think
they tried to put over in thismatch show. For all of those reasons,
it was very obvious. I wishthey could have done more. This

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was another one. It's like,now that I'm seeing it through, I
guess this isn't You can't really callthis a criticism because they just didn't do
it. None of the matches allnight, besides the ladder match really had
a stipulation. This could have beenbut they probably just didn't want to give
it more time. But make thislike a tables match or something like.
I think that would have been prettyfun all the women involved to your point

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of the reason. For me,it's decent. I came out liking some
of the women involved more so I'mlike, they didn't do much, but
it's like, I think Jade's kickass. I really yeah, she's strong
and I The only thing I leftwas like, I can't wait for her
and BEYONCN to go at it.I think that view it is going to

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be just who can hold each otherthe air the longest amount of time,
which I'll be here for. SoI will say though, I now think
we are through all of the matchesthat I would call like not good,
which I'm excited about. I thinkinteresting because we have one next that we

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will for sure disagree on. Wow, that's right. Oh, I totally
forgot about this. Yeah, we'regonna hard disagree. Okay, let's go.
Yeah, okay, so we havethe Nazi versus the Muppet in Gunther
versus Sammy's Ain boy. If neitherperson could win this match, that would
have been great. Yeah, you'renot on either of these. I didn't

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even think about that. Yeah,Like I I don't understand Gunther like truly.
He's just a Nazi, that's all. That's his character, and he
just slaps people. Neither of theseguys are particularly interesting to me, like
like in terms of like wrestling style, in terms of personality. Yeah,
and they tried to put Samy's Ainover really hard obviously in the like the

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entrance thing, so you know,I don't know. I don't know.
I thought it was decent. Itwasn't bad by any means, but it
was just slow moving slaps until SammyZaid had his hull Kovid moment. That's
about it. Spasms. I willI will say one thing that I do

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love listening there, because if anyRescue fans are listening, I think one,
you just don't like Gunther, andI love that you've been consistent.
He's not your dude. I appreciatethat you've been Like, first time we
saw him, you're like, nah, I'm out, which I like.
I think he probably I took ahistory class before that. I heard what

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the Germans did. I think he'sprobably the wrestler on the whole roster you
missed the most by not watching weeklyonly because he truly I don't know if
has a character beyond he wrestles everyweek and I just don't know how you
beat him. Like I think that'sthe story, is like he's been and
he's bad and he takes this thingreally seriously, which I will say,

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I'm just bummed this match wasn't builtmore. I'm with you that suddenly Sammy's
wife and kid were in the backand it's like this is do or die,
and I'm like, why is itdo or die? You won this
opportunity like a month ago maybe,So I like that we get new stuff
from Gunther now and hopefully stuff thatyou're into more will find out. But

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I think Sammy deserved it. ButI his character a year ago to now
is kind of sad to me.He was so like must watch with the
bloodline stuff. He was the bestpart of that and like he didn't have
that in here, and I thinkyou could have done that if you just
had more build. For me,I'm fine with it landing indecent. I

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would have put it damn good simplyfor the in ring stuff. I know
that it was all big build butand I've always kind of thought this with
you Gunther. I think Gunther doesa good job on making you boo just
with moves, and I thought hedid a good job here of like going
out mocking the wife, coming backin like not taking it seriously. And

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then I honestly thought like the endsequence was killer. I thought the brainbuster
on the Apron and everything else wasreally good. I think they're pretty clearly
also saving something for a follow up. But all that said, I'm totally
fine with it landing indecent and excitedto I feel like this main event is

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gonna get lost in the shuffles oftime a little bit with what happened night
two, I think, But Imean, curious what you think about our
main event of night one. It'sSeth and Cody versus the Bloodline Rock and
Roman. Yeah, so I thinkthe Rock had a couple of okay moments

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in this match, but truthfully,like it is, there's zero aches there
were like it was the biggest nothingof a match, very predictable. We're
gonna win. Yeah, so slowto start, I know, do you
think the second half made up forit. I yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, it was so slow thatthe Rock expressing like his power, I
suppose the like I like him leaninginto I'm the owner of the company essentially.
I think that's fun. That's agood bit. He's so entertaining.
I mean everything he said to Cody'smom and I mean that's the clip.
I think that's been making the mostrounds. But him telling the ref if

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you count, you're fired, isis great And I liked I liked.
For me. The reason I'd sayit's damn good is I do think the
ending gets it there for me.And I think the big reason why is
I like that Roman didn't get apin either night. I liked that they

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built up, they saved the Rock, but they also let him get the
shine, and I thought that wasvery smart booking. And yeah, I'm
not gonna lie I end of nightone, I would have called this decent.
And now that night too is passed, I'm like, good build,
good setup, because they did everylike Sef being banged up after this match

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mattered and Cody getting pinned by theRock and looking like that may night too,
I think more dramatic. I thinkyou could have gone there differently,
but for me, it's damn good. But I'll be interested what you think
here. I thought it was metIt was one of my least favorite of
the night. I think I thinkwe go decent then, and I think
that's fair because I think for me, I'm definitely more stuck on the booking

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side of Like, I like thatwe got this match instead of what they
wanted to do, which is RockRoman. But the match itself, I
think it's fine that it's decent anduh, this is the match I'm most
excited to see your Rady got outof the whole show, which is the
match one of night two. Yeah, match one of Night two, and

(31:15):
I think we take take everything intoaccount cash In Yeah, absolutely. Okay,
So Drew McIntyre fought seth Rowans forthe championship and again big spoiler alert
afterwards, what was tried to goon Twitter as bisexual Undertaker came out and
cash did and got the championship overit was if it was cut off just

(31:42):
before the cash In. Yeah,I think I hated it, to be
completely honest. Yeah, I thinkthat's fair for sure. Decent. Yeah,
like at the most, you know, like there are some okay spots.
But to your point about the tagmatch, which it was cool that
Seth you know, got hurt andit mattered, it just made the wrestling

(32:04):
worse though, too correct. Ialmost think with what happened, I don't
know if Seth needed as much offenseas he got. I think this whole
thing could have been a little shortermm hmmm. Uh. But yeah,
it is hard to just separate thatfirst piece, isn't it. Yeah.
I I I think I hate DrewMcIntyre truthfully, and I used to like

(32:30):
him. I think he's talented.I just hate his character right now a
lot. Yeah, I think it'sabout to change, uh, based on
the end of this match, becauseI think he got his comeuppance. Yeah,
like cmpunk was in the announcer tablefor night too the whole time,
right, No, just this match, oh, just this matching, and

(32:51):
then he was there for the end. I guess he came out or whatever.
Correct. Yeah. Yeah, Ihate like I side with see him
Punk so much with the mcatizer shit, like it's it feels really annoying,
Like every time he's like you you'reobsessed with me? Like, bro,
my name's out of your t shirtlike you just the whole take a picture

(33:12):
of this like be with see himpunk in the picture. I hate that.
I hate everything about it. Sodid you like him tweeting mid match?
Because I loved it. I wasvery funny. Yeah. I didn't
see that till today though. Yeah. Board at work. Yeah the fuck
that's good. I would put itin decent I think, wow, okay,

(33:32):
I pretty comfortably. Am gonna bein damn good? I uh,
because I think this is one watchingthe weekly stuff and maybe this will make
you feel different about it. Ithink the story going in. I just
love that. The story coming inwas everybody was right and everybody was wrong.

(33:54):
Like cess thing coming in is Ican do it all and both sides
are. He's important to me,but clearly, as we saw by the
end of the night, costing Romanwas more important. Drew. The whole
point was, you're not taking thisseriously. It's gonna like one, hurt
our moment and like hurt my momentand people won't give me as much credit.

(34:15):
And two it's gonna cost you becauseyou're not focusing on the person in
front of you. And all ofthat happened. And then Drew also wasn't
focusing on the person in front ofhim, and I loved I love that
someone said this today and maybe thatjust stuck with me. I love that
Drew could have just been happy andleft, but of course he wasn't because

(34:38):
his whole character is he's a bitterwhiner. So he had to like say
one more word, and that's likewhat cost him. I think I think
it's great that Drew cost himself hismoment and not seth and somehow without wrestling,
Punk being up on top was reallygood. I will also say,

(34:59):
to the point of the wrestling notbeing great, I thought it was.
I thought the wrestling was decent andI did not think you could get me
to care about a Damien Priest cashin. And I am now like excited
of where that goes, knowing thatwe have to get it on Punk,

(35:20):
and very specifically have to get iton Punk before they go to Glasgow,
where that's that has to be.Where we're going now is we're gonna get
a mac entire face turn and it'sgonna be MacIntyre Punk. But perhaps I'm
more excited about that than everything.But I guess the reason, my short
reason why it's damn good. Iwas immediately more excited about Night two after

(35:45):
this match, Like we got acash in, we got like these cool
story phones, and I was like, let's go. We're like ready to
rock. I think this will bea theme. But truthfully, like everything
on Night Too, it felt likeBigger would like what WrestleMania should be.
It didn't feel like WrestleMania Night oneto me. And the fact that we're

(36:07):
ending with a match that had zerostakes and zero in kind of importance because
we knew the opposite would happen thenext night, Like, it just felt
weird. It didn't feel like WrestleManiaon Night one. I agree. I
think they over were responded entrances.No, why were the entrances so nah
all weekend? They need better entrances, they need better music. I thought

(36:29):
that was pretty apparent the whole time. I will say I think they overcourse
corrected. So I can't wait fornext year. The last two times they've
done this too, n I thinkNight one was way better than Night Too,
so I think I think they heldeverything back so that that was clearly
not going to be the case,And I'm excited for next year where they
just like don't care about that andgo for it. I would also say,

(36:53):
if that's actually what they were goingfor, people would have liked Night
two more last year if they hadgotten the end they wanted. So I
think that's really all you had todo. But I agree, and I
think it shows that because in thisnext one talk about nothing being on the
line but it being a blast.One last thing about or two last things

(37:15):
about this past match, and partof it's this and the very end.
I thought the little thing Seampunk didduring the night made me like him more
like I thought he was really goodcorrect in the company. And then two
this had this match had one ofmy favorite ongoing bits of if you hit
somebody with a brace, it's themost deadly weapon of all time, which

(37:37):
I think is very fun. Thatwas really good. I will say the
other thing that made me think ofthree characters. I know you said you
hate Drew, I'm invested in allthree people leaving it sure which and I
guess for if you count Priest.So I think that's a success in that
too. But now we move on, Zach. That to the most anticipated

(38:00):
match of the Okay, so thePhiladelphia street fight with Street Profits and other
people don't know who the other peopleare, honestly don't know the test of
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But but was it no that Bubba
Ray Dudley was gonna be the fuckingguest rath they announced it here. Holy
shit, I was so excited.I was very, very excited for this.

(38:24):
Couldn't have bet a better pick,couldn't have been a better pick.
What is smart? This match hadliterally no no one cared about this match,
and to just put all of thisfun shit in it was so smart.
The Dudley Boy spots so good thatin terms of individual moments, the

(38:50):
Dudley Boys spots in this one wereprobably my highlight of the whole fucking thing.
It was very It was for surean old school nod, but putting
the glasses on so funny. Thatpush, Oh god, it was so
good, so good, I willsay, Lord to set up a fucking
table. I was losing my mind. The table gave up on them,

(39:12):
man, that's not their fault.The table gave up bottom. No,
like you can see the leg foldingin him, like lock the damn leg.
It's gonna happen again. It almosthappened again, I mean without the
Bubba Ray doing stuff at the end. It was not a good match.
I'll put it in decent. I'llbe fair, I'll put it in decent.

(39:34):
Oh well, you being no,it's damn good. Okay, fine,
and damn good. It's damn good. It's got Bubba Ray Dudley.
What are we talking about. It'sthink of what this match is versus night
This match was a feeler and whata fun like. That's the reason this
match is I think maybe the biggestreason why Night two. This being I
think the worst match of the nightfor me anyway, is so telling or

(40:00):
whatever match you pick, like youmight have a different one lower, but
I think your lowest match this nightis so much higher than the lowest match
on Night one. I think that'sthe big difference. So for me,
like, damn good, I'd watchthat match again today, you know I
almost did. Actually, that wasso fun. It was a fun match.

(40:22):
Okay, next one we got cokedout La Knight versus AJ Styles.
He was like, he needs tocalm down. He does go dead.
What's your thoughts on this match?I'm interested to know your thoughts. I
was pleasantly surprised because the build forthis I think was another one people didn't

(40:45):
super care about, Like, Ithink it had all the feeling of like
La Knight needs something to do.I guess aj Styles doesn't like him.
Uh. There was a home invasion, which I always love in a wrestling
storyline. But yeah, I Icould watch night Wrestle of Broom, like,
I know he's coked out. Butfor me, this was I would

(41:06):
say decent. Like I I thinkit was not as fun as the other
one. It was a better match, so like if you go higher,
I would understand that, but thisis the one where I'm like, they're
gonna do this match three more times. It was a good starter. Uh
yeah for me, this is askip and a rewatch. So it was
decent. But for what I thoughtI was gonna get, I think it

(41:28):
really overachieved. Yeah, i'd putit in decent too. I thought it
was you know, it didn't.I can't remember most of the spots in
that match. I would say,like pretty much anything from it. It
was just it was fine, No, it was okay. Then we got
that triple threat match for the USAtitle Logan Paul with a Pride Bottle,

(41:49):
which I was excited to see again, like, who's it going to be
this time Randy Orton, who evenLindsey was like, I think Randy Orton's
my favorite wrestler. I thought hewas great out of his career. I
like someone said this, he almosthad to retire because of his latest injury,
and I think he's come back andbeen like I'd love wrestling. Yeah,

(42:09):
it's so fun. Starting with theentrance of Kevin Owens putting that some
bitch and reverse getting Randy to hopon the back was so fun. Just
a couple of buddies going to beatup a bad guy and Randy on one
hand being the coolest guy there andalso so clearly very old. It was

(42:29):
funny, like in giving Kevin Owensthe slow down sign coming down the ram
like he was not okay, hewas like whoa, whoa, whoa,
we're flying. Yeah. Yeah,I like barking at I show speed.
I like legitimately kicking him. Thatmade me very That was incredible. Yeah.

(42:51):
And then Logan Paul with the deuchiestawesome truck and wrestling was good,
like thing was very good wrestlers.Yeah, I hate Logan Paul, but
I think in the way they wantme to, uh like, I hate
that he's this good at this thingthat he has just picked up in his

(43:13):
spare time. Uh. And whata finish, What a good finish with
the RKO reversal and then Logan justsliming his way to a win. So
and we didn't even mention they gaveKevin the same Sammy treatment, like he
came out for a pep talk first. Yeah, that was weird. I
liked it. I liked it.I thought it was weird that they followed

(43:36):
that up with him getting his goatcart. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It looks like a reveal. Theydidn't show him getting get I don't
think. Yeah. I I meanthis is either my favorite or second favorite
match. I think it's between God'shere and Damn good for me. I
really enjoyed it. I did too. I I I say, you'll make

(44:01):
that decision because you know Ty goesto the highest score, so that's up
to you for me, Sam Good. And my reason is it was predictable
for me anyway with more knowledge comingin, like they Summer Slam's going to
be in Cleveland, where Logan Paul'sfrom, so that was gonna be there
and he wasn't gonna drop it ina triple threat, but I could see

(44:24):
it going higher. Like I Iliked that they made it like, no,
we're not really fighting amongst those houseWe're kind of just kicking your ass
the whole time. And he gotthe better of him. Anyway, I
thought it was very good. Idon't like to me, I'm gonna save
goud to you for like one ofthe best matches I've ever seen that beat

(44:45):
like my criteria. So but thiswould be a great match on any Mania
for me. Yeah. I thoughtit was super super entertaining in terms of
entertainment, Like the Dudley spot wasgreat, but it dipped off for I
mean the first half yeah bad.This one was awesome the entire time.

(45:06):
So in terms of this tier,for sure my favorite. Yes, then
me get this one Bailey versus somebodyYeah yeo. I this was my least
favorite match. I we're gonna disagreeon this a lot. Okay, sounds
good, go for it. Obviouslynot a big wrestling fan. Don't really

(45:27):
know all the storylines. Every timeI see her. I don't know why
people like Bailey. I don't understand. I just don't. It doesn't click
for me. I understand why peoplelike God there. I just think those
people are wrong and should read ahistory book. With Bailey, I don't
get it. Is she Egyptian?What was that entrance that was weird?
I don't get the entrance. I'mwith you on the entrance. I don't
get it, And I just don'tthink the EO is the other person?

(45:52):
Is that's her name? Yeah?Too much yoko oh no energy, I
don't. I can't do it screaminglike yok. I love her character.
I think it's so fun. Ithink every roster needs that. It gives
me such two jery vibes. Itis to vibes for me, it's very
clearly mad. For me, Ireally don't like it. I okay,

(46:15):
I'll just be honest with where Iwas at and then we'll have to figure
out where it goes. I mean, I think I know where it ends
up planning. I was sincerely inbetween god tear and Damn good r and
some of it is. This isalso what you're saying about Bailey makes so
much sense. I've never thought ofit that way. For I think wrestling

(46:38):
fans, Bailey is like she islike maybe one of the most wasted potentials
in the Vince era. Because inNXT she was like the babyest of babyfaces,
Like she was hugging kids and cameout with these wacky inflatable arm things,
and crowds were chanting like they werethat night, and they came up

(47:00):
to the roster and just didn't knowwhat to do with her. Like everyone
was like, she's the most popularwomen's wrestler of all time, and they
were like, ah, I guesswe'll just put you in tags and like
not do anything. So she hadto turn heel like under the Triple H
regime and like got herself back overand got this push and like has never
been given a moment. So thatwas like the story against someone she brought

(47:22):
back into a stable. So Ithought the story could have been better,
but I thought it was there.That's why I think I wouldn't put it
out to yours, because the storywould have been there, I think for
me. But all this stuff yoursay makes sense the part I do have
a question for you. I Ireally thought you would like the wrestling more
because I thought for me the reasonwas between the line. I think in

(47:43):
ring this might be one of thebest women's matches I've ever seen. I
just thought they did such a goodjob in the ring, like telling that
story of like EO is a killer, and like she just was too intense,
like Bayley just out gamed her,which I I like that EO at

(48:06):
the end was just spamming finishers.I liked that she was flipping out of
things. I thought it was areally good story. To me, I
liked it more than the Ria Beckymatch. But I can get that being
a toss up. But so thatis why I've got it as high as
I do. But I think,to me in the middle, we should
put it in decent. Well,you said you're between God's here and damn

(48:28):
good. So I'm gonna let youdecide if you think it's fair to put
in decent or fair to put indamn good. You're the wrestling oh,
I mean community here, I'm damngood. It's damn good. I thought
it was bold of you to saythat Ria Becky was better. I don't
know if that has been the discourse. So I think not that this is
what we should base it on,but just for yours knowledge, you know,

(48:51):
because it's always good to know.I think this has been talked about
in online and the things I've beenreading and listening to today as like,
was this the best match of Maniabesides the main event? So I got
bored. I had to get up. I think that's fair. But would
you also agree these are the twopeople you knew the least about, besides

(49:13):
maybe the Jobbers with Bubba Ray Ihave no, I still don't know who
fought Street Profits. Yeah for sure, no, because I've seen both of
them and weren't they in the samething before? Correct? They were in
the Yeah, I get what you'retalking about. Yeah, they were in
the same chamber match before. Okay, I'm with you. Now here's the

(49:37):
real question on how high does thislast? One? Land? I mean,
is really what we're talking about?So it is the main event?
Cody finishes the story if your resikbend, you don't know that. I
don't know what you did in thelast twenty four hours, but there you
go. Uh yeah, he justto give a quick rundown, I guess
for folks who didn't watch it orjust want to know. You know,

(49:59):
it was blood roll rules following thetag match the night before, so they
started one on one and then onceCody started to get a little bit of
an upper hand, all shit literallyhit the fan. I think the order
of it went, Hey, Jimmyruns out. Uh. Then Jay runs
out and did something cooler than hedid either of them did on Night one

(50:21):
and spears him off the stage.Then I thought they did such a good
job with Solo. Solo comes outand looks like he's gonna, like Sigle
Hanley, win the match for Roman. Cody somehow kicks out of what cosst
him last year. Then Sena comesout like a cameo from a different movie,
and he beats up Solo, putseveryone through tables and stuff. Rock

(50:44):
comes out. I can't wait tohear your thoughts on this because especially on
like Rock, because Rock comes outand him just cussing the whole way down
is great. And he beats upSina in a very cool moment. And
then yeah, this on their biggboards not broken glass, but a gong
goes out. We get the Undertaker. Hell yeah, fresh from a bike

(51:07):
ride. He chokes slams well technicallybefore Taker, we had Seth. Seth
comes out, he gets intercepted byRoman and then kind of stays there for
a second. But then we've gotthe Undertaker stuff, So now it's just
Roman Seth and Cody, and inthe moment, I think people are talking

(51:27):
about most and freaking out about onlinebecause it's such good storytelling. Seth was
in his shield gear and instead ofhitting Cody with a chair, Roman chooses
to rub salt in an old woundhit Seth, and then Cody has enough
time to reverse a spear hit themoves and go home happy. So he
wins kind of clean in the leastclean match of all time. So I

(51:52):
know what I think about it,but I'm most curious about what you think
about it. I think there's acouple of things that can have done a
little better. But yeah, Imean I went in cheering for Roman.
I will say that, like Ijust I don't. I don't think Cody
Rose is interesting in the slightest bit. But they did such a good job

(52:15):
where I feel like even the peoplewho were like in favor of Roman at
the end were like super happy forCody. Like, I think they did
a great job there. I thinkit is kind of important that they included
his wife, Like, I thinkthat was a big deal. I thought
that was cool and his mom.Dude, I was hoping to undertake what
choke slammed that bitch. That's whatI was hoping for. I'm not at

(52:36):
Cody Roads, Baba Rhodes hes uh, not a fan in the rock.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.All of it was good. All of
it was great. I like theRocks saying, get the fuck out of
my rig. I like all ofI love it all. I love it
all. The Undertaker spot, Iunderstood, wasn't there a thing where like
they wanted stone Cold and they couldn'tcome to an agreement or something. That's

(53:00):
the latest report is that he wasa fillin. I think it's better with
the Undertaker. I understand, likethe history was stone Cold, it would
have been cool, just another entranceat another like big like Rundown and stuff
like that. I just think wouldhave taken too much time and like momentum

(53:21):
a way. I also think itwould have been more about the rock,
like Austin Rock is just about thosetwo. It like overshadows everything else.
Whereas the Taker gong was random enoughthat it kept me hype, like I
was like, what the hell isgoing on? Like and I am so

(53:45):
curious if it was a fillin ornot, because I think people were just
like, oh, it's good,but I mean it been better if they
got Austin. But it was goodand I I mean Roman faced Undertaker and
was his last match. So nowdid they say that at all on commentary?

(54:06):
No, So I don't know ifthat was the reason they did it.
I think there's enough there that youcan be like, yeah, the
Undertaker doesn't like anybody involved. Hewas rooined for Dusty's kid. I I
took it, How do you takeit? The way I took it was
like there's almost no Vinceky more thanthe Undertaker. And I thought it was

(54:30):
cool that it was kind of likepassing the torch, almost like getting the
validation getting everything. I thought itwas like pretty that was pretty cool,
some pretty symbolic I like someone said, and it could be as simple as
this. Well, I heard twotheories. I know you'll like this.
One that was serious and I kindof like it, which is even taking
everything back if the whole thing isyeah, Rock is this past generation of

(54:52):
like I this is my ring,I run the show whatever. The Undertaker
would not like that, Like soit's just a character thing of like he's
all that, that is what theUndertaker has done for the past thirty years.
It's just kind of showed up andbeen mad about people, saying things,
what do you mean it's my yard, and then hits them. So

(55:13):
I like that. I saw someoneonline being like, no one hates Paul
Hayman more than the other, sayhe came out to cost Brock's boy,
So I love that. I willsay that if the only detriment of a
match is I can think of someoneI wish would have ran in more.

(55:36):
I don't know if that's a conlike I liked. I loved that it
was the undertaker who's not happy tosee him, like true everyone has said
Austin. I really think, inmy heart of hearts, if it wasn't
for recent allegations, that would havebeen Brock, probably because we can rock
next Mania though in Minnesota. Correct. I also think that's why they didn't

(55:59):
announce many. I think they're gonnalet it cool down and then have Brock
announce it. But Brock faced Codythat was his last feud, and Cody
kind of got past him, likethat was Brock's last thing. Was like
he gave Cody the stamp of approval. He hates Roman and he still pissed
at Hayman. Like I think Brock'smusic, hitting and his stupid grin and

(56:23):
his cowboy yet awesome as he camedown to just ruin. Things would have
been great and very brock by theway of like if I'm not happy,
no one is so and apparently notthat far off from his real life persona
allegedly, but so all that tosay, sure could have been someone else

(56:45):
and it would have been awesome.I for me, I can't think of
a part of the match. Iwas surprised. I watched it again today
and I was surprised by how muchI liked the wrestling, like the whole
time, like Cody damn good inthe ring, like and to your point,
when it was so clear they wantedCody to win. I don't know

(57:07):
how Roman got me to root againsthim, but he did, and I
thought they played the perfection. Sofor me, it can't be like it
might be the best Mania match I'veever watched over that reason. It's it's
god tier for me. I mean, yeah, it for sure is god
tier. I wish when Undertaker disappeared, and it seemed like everybody who came

(57:31):
in disappeared as well, But theywere just laying outside and they like popped
up a little later if everybody disappeared, would have been incredible. I think
that would have been really, really, really good. Yeah, I like
it only for the sense that Ilike, we got the seth moment.
I got that SNL after the showcredits rolling moment. Yeah, that was

(57:55):
wild. How long they kept thecamera on was wild. I the only
thing I would say with the Undertaker, I don't think Undertaker interacted with Roman
at all. I would have likedthat a little bit because it felt like
a fillain. So I understand whypeople are saying that because it was it
was like we need somebody ding likeit's just like he owes me money,

(58:15):
so I'm just makes sure it's onemore thing, like like I texted you,
priest should have cashed it in,like as they're like accepted, like
Tody's doing his huge thing. Iwish he cashed it in and it could
have just been everybody in the ringbeing the shit out of him. Then
I think that's funny. Obviously ittakes a moment away from Cody, but
that would have been funny for me. I also would have liked another Undertaker

(58:37):
gog like, well, everyone's excitedand that everyone freaking out now yeah,
well that or just turn the lightsoff, turn him back on, and
then he's just in there happy forCody. That's fun. That is it's
the only way he transports is inthe dome. Uh, he's camera shy.
I do like that talk about smallgeeky things. I like his wrestling

(59:00):
fan I as much as I likedyour pitch of like, the priest comes
out in the midst of all ofthat, So smart of them. They
did it for a bunch of reasons. So smart of them to get the
cash in out of the way,because as all of that stuff is happening,
of course you're like, where's Priest? Like, So the fact that
it was done and it was like, now we don't have to worry about

(59:22):
the fact that everyone in this matchwas murdered. I was very smart because
I wouldn't have thought of that,And it's like, yeah, that would
have been an issue afterwards of likewhere the hell was Priest when Cody got
hit by seven Samowens and a deadman came down to kill people. So
I thought it was good. Butoverall, I mean, I think it's

(59:45):
gonna be remembered as one of thebest pay per views of all time.
Because they paste it right. Asboring as Night one was, it wasn't
supposed to overshadow night too. Andby the way, same as last year,
I can't remember what matches were eachnight, so that's not how it'll
be remembered. It'll be remembered aslike, oh yeah, that match wasn't
good. They'll remember the matches theylike and won't remember what nights they were

(01:00:09):
on. That's fair, That's definitelyfair. Yeah, if if I had
to do another like little critique,I just don't like how it just felt
like it's so dumb. It's reallysmall, but like everyone on Night one
who fought essentially was included again inNight two and they're like all fresh and

(01:00:30):
ready to go, you know whatI mean. Like it's so small,
but like that's a good wrestling nitpickthough. I the only one where that
really bothered me is again I thoughtSef should have got killed, especially doing
what they did. I like theidea that the only thing that costs McIntire's

(01:00:51):
his own hubris. I think theycould have handed that up. I especially
think in hindsight, you don't needSef to look strong when he looks like
the genie who unraveled Roman right right. I think seem Punk's stuff in the
SNL credits thing like putting over Cody. I think that was cool and I

(01:01:12):
don't even understand all the dynamics there. Just felt like that was a big
moment. Yeah. I like thatCM punk is so likable and you know
he's up to everything, Like Idon't trust him at all. I love
how they've played this of like he'ssaying nice things and he'd stab everybody in
the back for about and or orfor a podcast, and I think I

(01:01:37):
think that's a good quality to have. I what I'm most excited about,
and you touched on it. Ithink this is the best I felt about,
like they always kind of do okay. I like the men's main event
scene, Like you didn't like theGunther Sami match at all, A lot
of people did. It was notmy favorite, But like that match in

(01:02:00):
the US title match being like asgood as they were, and the tag
team match being fun and good andmost importantly, like what a well rounded
show for the women, Like Iknow that, like we can nitpick what
should have been better, what matchwas better, like we were kind of
talking about, but uh, liketo have ten women on the card,

(01:02:22):
and I genuinely care about over halfof them. Like that sounds, you
know, like a pity party,but that's that's news for where women's wrestling
has been. So I'm excited aboutthat. One of these years they could
let a women fucking main a bet, but I not yet. No.
Yeah, So it's this is onlythe fortieth one. You break too many

(01:02:45):
barriers at once, people will getbad at you. That's right, That's
right. That's the lesson here.So we'll be see. So my last
question to use Zach as we wrapup this rancor thing is, now that
you've watched Mania, what's the onematch that can be built from this you're
most excited to see. Is itCody versus someone? Is it you know,
Rock somebody? Logan? Uh?I guess my logan? Maybe Logan.

(01:03:10):
Actually my first question to you is, obviously we saw afterwards, not
in the main broadcast, but likeget videos everywhere Roman and Hayman sort of
crying on stage and embracing and stuff. Do you think Roman goes into a
big long break or do you thinkhe's going to be get back to it.

(01:03:30):
I think Roman gets ambushed by therest of the blood line. I
think he gets kicked out with Hayman. I think Hayman's like his buddy.
I would love if Hayman's stuck aroundand that's Roman's way back in. I
think that's kind of fun. ButI think that's what happens is we we
build up to Roman rocket next year. Sure. Roman also revealed on that

(01:03:53):
one he's like going through active leukemiatreatments. Nothing that like should stop.
But uh, you know, Ithink time off will be good from the
things he was saying, So thatwould be my guess is there's more of
that. But I think the bloodlinecould be done. We're recording this is
where as started. I think itcould be done tonight or Friday. Interesting,
Okay, I'm it's that specific feud. I guess I'm excited to see

(01:04:17):
what Randy Orton does. True,I wonder if they will pivot because I
think pretty clearly the plan was LaNight Logan at SummerSlam. Okay, uh
and because they held off because Ithink they want that in Logan's hometown.
I don't know now, because Iwant Randy everything. I'd be fine if

(01:04:40):
Randy was is Randy Cody's first importantopponent because like he was Cody's mentor.
You missed that part of his career, but like he was Cody's mentor and
led a stable he was in andlike we can just get like a feel
good, feel good feud while wewait for bloodline stuff. That'd be good.
But yeah, I think that's awesomethat people are so excited about Randy.

(01:05:04):
So I think that's really good forme. I am gonna go let
me pick an obvious one, notobvious one. Obviously. I'm pumped for
Drew Punk. I think I thinkDrew cym punk when all of the ship

(01:05:25):
to see him punk and say andbe right about is gonna be awesome,
Like oh, yeah, had yourmoment, you know, and you I
didn't do anything you do, youknow? So I think that'll be good.
And I think they're gonna play theircards right and we get that in
Scotland, and I think that Punkwants to be hated and so I think
that's gonna be great. So that'sthe obvious one. The not obvious one.

(01:05:48):
I'm really excited about Jade Karkill anduh, we kind of teased it,
but like Jade Bianc, I thinkis the obviously. I don't think
we get Jade and Ria in thesame ring for like a year, and
I think all the sudden happens andwe're like Jesus Christ, like, how

(01:06:10):
many men die? Well, thosedo like go to war. So I
think it's the first time in maybeforever that I'm like, these two women's
stars are as over as to meas anything else in the company. So
I'm excited for that, and Ijust I hope they beat the shit out
of each other. But I wouldsay that are the things I'm most excited

(01:06:30):
about. I'm anticipating just because wetouched it on. I wonder if Brock
comes back. I really wonder whathis status in the company will be,
because I don't want him back ifthe allegations are proven true. But if
he's able to come back, there'sso much for him and so it's hard

(01:06:56):
to resist that for me. ButI mean, bring him back. Who
cares if the allegations are true thathe's a heel. You know, I'm
pretty strong heel. That's pretty prettystrong heel. Uh that is true?
God, is it too late forhim versus Dominic? No, it's not

(01:07:17):
that he could do it. Yeah, we could do it tonight. I
hope it to having it got Wrawso so good and by the by the
way, next Mania, Bron Breakerwill be here, so that would be
fun too. Do you think Haymangoes with Breaker or no? H If
he was telling the truth, Haymansaid he's he's with Rome until he's done.

(01:07:39):
Now, well, Roman's gone.I like the idea of him going
with Jay, like kind of goingwith the bloodline that's not going to be
supporting Rock. Everyone thinks that nowwe'll kind of get Rock splits up,
starts his own thing, and thenthe usso's eventually rejoined Romans. So I

(01:07:59):
think Hayman does that. I'd loveif. I mean, Hayman and Braun
is great. I don't think Bronneeds him. I think he's very funny.
I think if you're cool with himbeing a dumb jock who's stronger than
everybody, I listen. I don'tthink anyone ever said Scott needed a mic
man. Just no one knew howto treat Scott fair. That's fair.

(01:08:20):
Yeah, so you want no way? I want him. I want him
to have to talk for ten minutesall his booty baba's yeah, for sure,
for sure. Faked teeth, yeah, Okay, so this was The
Raking Show for and the Flurry SportsPodcast. God to your match obviously,

(01:08:44):
Cody Roman Night too spoiler alert bythe Philadelphia Street Fight. Yeah, I'm
so good, so good. Worstmatch is the and is that pretty widely?
Yeah? Yeah, pretty widely.It's the one matter like why was
this on the card? Okay,fair enough. Now we are going to
be doing some business stuff on theair here, Jake, this is what

(01:09:06):
I'm gonna ask you. Do youthink we throw our game to next week?
Do we just end the show andleave the people wanting more? No?
No, the people need Pete.They need the pet I think that
people need Pete. And it's relatedto college basketball. Kin kind of not
really though, kind of not reallyListen. I don't get paid enough to

(01:09:29):
make these decisions. Unfortunately, I'mnot sure you do either, But I
I if i'd a vote. We'veteased it, like, I think some
people will skip through some of thestuff we just talked about to get to
Pete. Okay, I mean theyalways do, they always do. So
this was the Raking Show. Ifyou enjoyed this, go over to the
Floury Sports Podcast. We got anotherhalf an hour of show and I think

(01:09:51):
you will really enjoy it's a logshow. But I mean, this is
gonna be not even close to theloggest show we've done. Now we've done
a Marvel movie. Thirty minutes ofPete feels like twenty three minutes of us
very at least. Yeah, forsure. So like and subscribe to the
ranking show. Like and subscribe tothe Floory Sports podcast. And let's just

(01:10:12):
go over to that game. Let'ssee if I can win it. Okay,
it's game time once again, ourthird game, and we're even right,
yes, correct, even Stephen,Yes, I won the twenty dollars
in victorious fashion in episode well,first episode of the season. I don't
know what number it is. Butthen last week you stormed back, stormed

(01:10:35):
back with the movie mashup game.We're even we're back at zero. I
think that's what we're saying. We'renot saying, both get twenty dollars.
We're back at zero. And Jake, you have a game this week where
I can earn ten dollars again everysingle week. We're keeping tracks. Someone's
earning ten dollars every week unless webet a little bit show Ao Tani style.

(01:10:56):
That's right, you know, oneof us gets a little bit more,
but explain the game this week.What have we got? Well,
I will say much anticipated. Folksvery excited about it, I think excited
about how it turned out. We'llsee Pete may have played it too close
to the best, but this gameis called Pete's Perspectives. My dad Pete
Osmond for fans of the Playing Catchuppodcast, new episodes this week. Plug

(01:11:21):
for fans of that you know mydad, But Zach definitely knows him,
Uncle Pete they call him. Butfor this, that's right. A lot
of people do about ten people tobe exactly, but short and sweet Dad
is describing sports figures in this Ihave cut out the pieces where I ask

(01:11:43):
him, Hey, how do youfeel about so and so? And that
is exactly the question, how doyou think and how do you feel about
so and so? And Dad justgives his thoughts as he discovers it is
Zach will discover it turns out alot of the people asked about he doesn't
like. He was like, didI get anyone here that I like it?
I'm like, I don't know.For Zach to not make it impossible,

(01:12:05):
we've got ten stops today to makeit timely. These are all related
to college sports as we record thison the eve of the championship game,
having as we recorder right after werecord so most Zak, all either football

(01:12:25):
or basketball. Okay, all arecurrently relevant. Not every entry is a
like current coach, but they havemade news or are relevantly talked about overall,
and they're all coaches. They areall coaches, Zach, except the

(01:12:47):
wild card. You gotta watch outfor the wild card. To watch out
for the wildcard. That's right,This is Jefferson rule. There's one in
here that is not a coach andis not really related to college athletics at
all. Is this sports person.Okay, if you get that person right,
two points, you need seven pointsto win this game. Okay,

(01:13:13):
Okay. I think it's gonna betough. I'm excited for this, Okay,
and I'm not because I re listenedto the tape after Lindsey correctly called
out I got grilled by you inweek one. I'm not gonna give you
any tips, but I do thinkit's fun when you ask questions of things
that they got loud. But Imay do a better job of not answering
you, depending on how it goes, but I think it comes across pretty

(01:13:36):
clear. So we'll get started andyou just get to guess who it is.
Okay, Okay, we'll see howthis first one goes again. So
Jake just asked his dad, howdo you feel about this person? Right?
Correct? Okay, here we go. Ah. I think that he

(01:13:56):
was one of those that doesn't immediatelystrike like hatred in you, but at
the same you know, good forgood first players, extreme, fairly arrogant.
Okay. My issue with him issome of his friendships with with other

(01:14:19):
coaches that I really really really reallydon't like. He out hoolds some of
those coaches in high high esteem andI think that they should be castrated and
then shot. And well, Idon't really really dislike him. I dislike
his taste. My guess is wewouldn't be we wouldn't be buddies when it

(01:14:42):
came to the political thing, andI have no idea what his political thing
is. So that's what I thinkabout him. Okay, Wow, came
out and gates strong by the way, That's how I knew this was going
to be a good game. Whenhe hit him with the I hope they're
cast trained and then yeah, yeah, yeah, that that took me by

(01:15:04):
surprise. I had somebody admired theentire time, but then honestly, when
he said like I thought he wasgonna say, he is friends with coaches
he really likes, and he's madabout that, but it's coaches he really
hates. As we've fouled out,I'm trying to think of what I can
ask that even makes sense, becauseI don't think I should be able to

(01:15:27):
ask sport personally. I don't thinkno, I feel okay giving this I
guess hint because I didn't. Idon't want to be the thing that leads
you astray. Uh. This personnot currently coaching, and I would say,
like the least out of our list, like he's not in a news

(01:15:47):
story this week or anything like that. Okay, So how do we want
to do this? Because I havesomeone in mind? Do I get one
guess and we're done? Incorrect?Correct? I think you give one clarifying
question your choice. I don't careif you ask for because it's I've given
you fifty to fifty shots. Soif you want to waste it on basketball

(01:16:10):
football, go for it. ButI'll give you one clarifying question for each
person okay, how okay, butbut I get one guess at the direct
one clarifying question. One guess,Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
hot. Not a current coach.So did this person most recently coached in

(01:16:30):
the SEC. No, it's notNick Saban, that's who I was really
banking on. Political, not currentlya coach, not currently a college coach,
could be an NFL coach. Okay, for the people listening to hell,
let's try to read Jake to getYeah, I don't want to lead

(01:16:53):
you straight in the game. Everyonehere besides our wildcard, which this could
be our wildcard? Did I startyou with the wildcard? I don't know
everyone besides our wildcard famous for collegecoach. I didn't even do like,
uh right, yeah right. Iwas saying they may still be a coach,
but they may not be interesting.I wouldn't go that route. Okay,

(01:17:14):
so that's not Jim HARBAUGHA no,really, who is it? The
political thing kind of threw me fora loop. I think I thought that
was the least helpful park is whichall these pricks probably don't line up with
my dad. I am going withcoach k he found it, Folks,
he found his groove. Really,yeah, coach K. I was like,

(01:17:39):
oh, he's totally on the footballfront. No, absolutely, it's
coach Ky. I was just tryingto think of recently retired coaches. I
have no idea of Coach K's politics, by the way, but I don't
think anyone knows anything about him.I actually thought my dad's thought on it.
I kind of agree with, Yeah, Pete's got a good read on
them. Okay, you're one forone, a little more handholding than I

(01:18:00):
think I'll do the rest of theway. So go ahead, Zach,
take your stab at number two.Okay, Coach too. Do not care
for him. Seems to be anentitled piece of crap. Always one of
the coaches that always, in mymind, seems to, you know,

(01:18:24):
say we need to have accountability.It's Jimmy's fault. But I don't care
for him as a whole. Ialso think that if he was as good
as he thought he was, hewouldn't be coaching where he is now.
He'd move either to a different collegeconference or the pros. Yeah, he

(01:18:50):
seems hard to work with. Yes, he also seems to me phony like
he's one of these guys. Firstfew of the church as he's Dayton the
nun in the bag. Yeah,all right, all right, okay,

(01:19:10):
okay, So I had one personin mind, and the church comment may
have helped me. I'm hoping itdid. Does this person also coach?
Well, I guess Coach K doesn'tcoach anymore? Does this person coach in
the acc correct? It's daba,It's wow. I mean, I don't

(01:19:35):
know why I even thought that,because truly the hints are Pete doesn't like
him, he's entitled, he blameshis players. Could be Anyboddy, for
sure. I will say he startsto get it here, Coach K,
I think he's going to be thehardest. He gets more descriptive as he
goes in the game because he getsused to it. I think you are

(01:19:56):
corrected, like this is not abad hint, Like it's a good rule
the first time you've ever played thegame. Uh, Dad gets more descriptive
at the end of his sentences.So I think here the big hints where
why has any moved schools? Andthe church comment was good? Yeah,
we've got some coming up, Zachthat you're just gonna have to guess.

(01:20:18):
How much does he hate people?Which you know it's gonna be fun,
but yeah, I uh. Thisone was also one of my favorites just
because the straight out to the gates. I do not care for him.
Nobody does, so he's spot on. Okay, Coach number three has come

(01:20:42):
close. He's probably my second leastfavorite coach in college sports. Not only
I mean he's had immense success,but he's covered up for his player for
years. He's, in my opinion, should be criminally liable for some of

(01:21:06):
the stuff that's happened to people attheir place. Another one that's really they
all are going to be somewhat arrogant, but he comes off as a gollie
g. I'm all about doing itthe right way. You know. He's

(01:21:29):
he's had kids played for him thatshouldn't be in school, like they all
have. But and he said he'scovered up for kids with sexual assaults stuff,
that kind of stuff. So he'snot my Favorite's sensing a pattern here.
I don't like anybody. I thinkI've got maybe three people on this
list. Do you like? Sothere you go, little meta hint for

(01:21:53):
you, zech there you go.I know I don't want to cut that
off. Okay, this one's tricky, so second least favorite coach, which
I will review to you number oneif it helps all time, because it's
not something I asked about this.Bob Knight. Oh okay, Hey,

(01:22:16):
Bob Knight, I may have gottena good riddence text the So this is
his least favorite current coach. Yeah, the least favorite still living uh coach?
Yeah? Wow? Okay, thencovered up for players with sexual assault
kind of a hint, kind ofnot unfortunately, not as much a hint

(01:22:39):
as maybe it should be. Yeah, a lot of success, Yeah,
a lot of success. Right.Not Brian Kelly, I don't think.
I mean, he's not a currentcoach, but not saban Isola was one
that kind of initially came to mind. So could be Izzo. I have

(01:23:04):
a clarifying question. I don't evenknow what would help get me in the
right sphere at this point, butI think the most basic question it would
be helpful to you here. Okay, So I'm guessing it's a football coach.
So I'm not gonna ask that.I'm gonna say, well, can

(01:23:26):
I ask what conference he coaches in? Yeah, I'll tell you he's Big
Ten. Yeah, so going throughthe Big ten coaches, it's that fucking
great guard. Not really, Iwish it was. No, it's not.
He doesn't have an Yeah, Iwas just trying to think football's had

(01:23:47):
sexual assault stuff, not basketball.Uh could be Iszoh, I don't Juwan
Howard got fired, right mm hmmm. But again relevant, I'm not telling
you it's Jawan, but just forlater ones like, yeah, they're not

(01:24:09):
all current coaches, they're just allrelevant. Oh, it's a relevant coach,
not a current coach. The onlyone who kind of fell out of
that is coach k. I'm justletting you know there there are some folks
who don't aren't going to be activecoaches this year. You know some you've
circled around. This one obviously isn'tSaban. Saban's not a current coach.

(01:24:31):
You know what I'm saying, Well, Harba is not a current college coach.
He's a current coach. You don'thave to worry about that. It's
college coaches. That's what they're knownfor and famous for. There's someone very
obvious that I'm not thinking about.And uh, I guess big ten man,

(01:24:54):
I'm it's not urban. I'm justgonna guess is though. I really
can't think of anybody else, it'soh, it is okay, Dad,
you stumbled on something. Dad hatesBig ten coaches. Well yeah, yeah,
you know, he's Badger's fan,and so to have the devil within,

(01:25:14):
you know, like he's so close. Yeah, he he loves Iso.
I did cut out the park becauseit was too obvious. He was
like, the only one who likeshow much he pushes people is Draymond Green.
I hate him. Yeah, Iwould have been a nice giveaway.
You hate Iszzo two and I thinkmost people do. I like it though.
I like it though. I alsothe institution thing kind of led me

(01:25:36):
to Michigan State as well. Butyeah, yeah, I thought for a
second when you were so hooked onyou didn't even bring up Paturno, I
was like, he's gonna get stuckon Paturno. But but he's not current,
he's I know, but I'm gonnaget I'm gonna get bitch at you
one way or another. So I'mtrying to play it clean down the middle.
All right, So you are threefor three. You have not stumbled

(01:25:59):
upon our doubled are yet. I'mexcited for that one. We'll be coached
for let's hear Sorry, Well,he's this coach is a conundrum, big
word for you, because extremely knowledgeableabout the game, like they all are.

(01:26:25):
But I mean it's gotten more outof his uh talent of his players
than a lot of a lot ofcoaches. Driven, hard working, Yeah,
prickish, Yeah, his wife kindof guy, you know, good

(01:26:45):
coach. I'm unbelievably good coach withwho's had a I think a tree of
success around him with with with withother coaches. Highly respected by other coaches.
Yeah, but uh, probably notthe kind of guy you want to

(01:27:09):
go on vacation, you know,very intense. Yeah, yeah, seems
that way, but but there,but got a lot of talent out of
his players, has had tons ofsuccess at the places he's been at different
levels. So there you go.I like that. Okay, a little

(01:27:30):
more favorable, huh more favorable.This person's not a current coach, is
he mm hmm? This is boRyan, This is bo Ryan. I
thought he was gonna drift you alittle bit. What Klugie and the cheating
on the wife thing. Cheating onthe wife intense. My favorite bit,

(01:27:50):
one of my favorite bits for myfriends in high school is just doing anything
wrong, like someone would do somethingwrong, pretend to be saying deck or
the ball. Rye would just stareat him until he wanted to die.
Essentially, it's one of my favoritebusiness for Wisconsin basketball. It's like if
you turned the ball over, youjust put your head down walking towards the

(01:28:12):
bench, like you don't even goback on defense. You're like, I'm
sorry, bo, And he justgot elected to the Hall of Fame.
Obviously correct, He's the relevant onethat I was trying not to very obviously
point out. But like, youknow, uh, you sniffed through that.
I thought the different institutions thing,but you you held on to the
intensity of bow. Ryan has almostgot some bands, dude, so that's

(01:28:35):
good. But I thought he wasgonna lose you a tree of success.
Oh no, I mean Bennett.Yeah, I mean there's a couple others,
but mostly Bennett. Yeah, thereyou go. But okay, Zach,
here we go. Hold on,I think I might have I do
have a disclaimer here, Okay,for coach five, Dad uses the word

(01:28:59):
gagger. He means a cigarette.It gets clarified in clet but it comes
out of the gate and I justneed to make sure we don't get canceled
out. Our first trip into Pete'sperspectives. Sounds good, sounds good,
fair enough, here we go.I think she just put out her Giger.

(01:29:20):
How about that? He takes meas a farm made at the corner
about seventy fives. She used toplay, She used to bowl at Wagner's,
over made up with a gagger hangingout of her mouth, chasing the
forty year old when she's sixty.How about that? Now Giger's a cigarette
Mine got it? Okay, okay, anyway, ah. My guess is

(01:29:45):
she probably doesn't in a recruiting sheetanymore than a lot of them do.
She strikes me as the kind thatdoesn't really care a whole lot about the
kid, more about more out winning. And that's probably true of a lot
of them. Yeah, obviously talented, Know what she said. She finds

(01:30:06):
a way to recruit really good players. So but she's not my favorite.
No, what do you think abouther wardrobe? Most of it doesn't fit
me? Goodbye? Right? Theyeah be with the zigger? Gotta be

(01:30:26):
Kim Milky, right yeah? Oror neighbor, I guess yeah, it's
it's it's Kim Moulkey that is themost concerned I've ever been in one of
these answers he just started. Iwas like, what do you like you're
gonna say something that gets us firedhere? Yeah, it's Kim Molkey put
out a gig or coming bowling atthe Yeah. He went down an interesting
path to start the answer. Forsure, do you get that vibe from

(01:30:50):
her that she's like because I thinkshe's like an upper crust He thinks she's
like she just crawled out of analley. Yeah. I think I'm more
towards Pete. I think he's definitelyshe's definitely smoking a halftime for sure.
Yeah. Also retweet if you usethe word gager? True? True?

(01:31:14):
How many cigarettes does she put outon that white girl's arm before? But
transfer again? All right, herewe go, Zach number six halfway through
five for five, great start,You need just two more points? Okay,
here we go, and the wildcard is still here. Wild cards
out there? Yeah, here wego. Yeah. I think, to

(01:31:39):
be honest with you, I likehim. Fine. I think it's weird
that you know, you can makeall the money he's made for years and
years and years out of out ofdressing. Yeah. Yeah, and kind
of a stick, you know,you know, it's like, you know,

(01:31:59):
I see him once and me,yeah, you know, yeah,
you compare him, you know,to this and that and whatever. He
might be good. Well, thereyou go, you're a genius. Okay,
okay, so this is the wildcard, ladies, a gentleman.
This has to be mel Kuiper,right, it is mel Kuiper. Wow.

(01:32:25):
I love it. I'm happy aboutthat. I'm happy about that.
Pete did a good job at thattime. Good job by Pete. Good
description. I thought that the personationwas actually pretty good. Yeah, not
bad, not bad, He's doneit before. Yeah. I also love
his like curious p Wilderman at himlike I don't I kind of like him.

(01:32:45):
I don't know how he makes hismoney. Yeah, that's true.
This is for sure. I wouldthink the most positive he's been about a
person so far. Yes, that'strue. I would say his most negative
and most positive are still coming up. Really, I mean, I guess
it wasn't negative about coach k justmore so the people he surrounds himself with.

(01:33:08):
Yeah, uh, he was obviouslyhe hates Tomasa more than one of
the people coming up. But like, yeah, it's a like it's a
it's a rage coming up. Uh. And to be honest, it uh,
it might be coming up right now, Zach. Wow. Okay,
Coach number seven, Effrey, Oh, Let's let me put it this way.

(01:33:32):
I have higher esteem for dog shitthan I beach. And he still
probably isn't my least favorite coach.No, but he's really close to the
bottom of the barrel. I mean, this jack ass is his from the
Little Rascals coment. Darla, you'rethe scone between Mattos. He is an

(01:34:02):
unlikable complete sure if there ever freakingwas one. Yeah, and truth be
told, I think that he didunspeakable things to his grandmother, and I
camp I don't like him. I'mgonna say that's the first one I asked.

(01:34:24):
And I could hear your wife chucklingin the background, and I asked
about himself. I think that's agood time. Yeah, Okay, I
wonder all the right all the hintsthere he did. I think he may
not have edited the name out nocomment, Okay, So I mean,

(01:34:47):
let's use all of our context cluesthat I'm gonna say who. I'm pretty
sure it is. So he hatesthis person a lot, obviously, which
hates close to home has to bewithin the conference. Edmy's within the camp.
I don't know the is there agrandmother thing or is that just Pete
Pete? That's Pete. Just that'sthe accusation. He could hurl someone that's

(01:35:10):
worse than anything else. Yeah,okay, I was like, Oh,
there's a story I need to lookup. I think it's Fran McCaffrey.
I'm siding with Pete on this one. That guy sucks. It is Fran
McCaffrey. Would you have gone itwithout maybe I would have for sure ten,

(01:35:31):
But I thought I think part ofthe fun in that. So I'm
really bummed that I didn't quite getit, because I do think part of
the fun is is do I hatehim? Sure? Does he occupy any
of my brain power? No?The fact that like dad loaves him,
like you could have quite hear itthere, But my mom is cackling in

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the background because he can't fully watchWisconsin Iowa games, Like he will get
up and leave the room and comeback. So he's not overly exposed to
Fran McCaffrey. I get it.I get it. Yeah, his family
has to do that too, Leefor a while, take vacations. He
did say cut that part out,not the name fully, so maybe left
the other part in but I cutout the part where he's like, didn't

(01:36:15):
do any crimes like any other coaches. But boys, he unlikable. Yeah,
he's worse than them, for sure. There we go, all right,
Zach. You now chasing something biggerthan the win. You're chasing a
perfect score. Got and that's forpride, which is more than money.
That's better than money. That's allI care about. Okay, here we
go. I hope again. WhatI will say about a lot of these

(01:36:44):
guys that I don't like is Ibet you they hate uh, social media
with a passion because they used tobe thought of as people didn't know anything
about their personal life or any ofthat other stuff. This guy here obviously
can coach very He's very good.Like all these guys. He's done in

(01:37:05):
more places, more places, atdifferent levels, had success. He's he's
fine. Bent his girlfriend over achair in the restaurant. The guy called,
yeah, but uh, his wifewas not happy. Now the report

(01:37:25):
tell the guy, I wonder ifthis guy here is going to have more
trouble. He's you know, he'sstill coaching, but he's got to be
seventy yeah, dealing with today's playersbecause he is he is of the mindset
that he knows more than anybody andeverybody and and is not really willing to

(01:37:51):
bend with today's players much. Yeahso, but he's not he's not what
he's in arrogant. Yeah, Ohmy gosh, he's unlikable. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, just like it'sjust saying the same type of things.
Oh god, I like it's sogenerically like I hate that guy. Yeah,

(01:38:12):
entitled? Are we sents like apattern? I will say, Pete,
lets some have it, folks.This is maybe this is good context
to start. My dad is literallythe most mild mannered person you'll ever run
into. So this level of likeangst ryan through him is like a lot
for him. So I like toyou just let him have it with the

(01:38:33):
girlfriend comment. It is and thatsounds so familiar that I know this story,
but I can't manch it to theperson. My question is did they
what what conference? Do they coachit? This is revealing, but I

(01:38:54):
have to look it up. Okay, I think I know who it is.
They may have switched or stay inthe same conference, Okay, go
for it, or say the conferenceis it? Oh? Yeah, sorry,
I didn't even answer. Trying toget out of it. It's the
Big East. Oh okay, sonot who I was thinking. Big East.

(01:39:19):
Now I have to remember all theteams in the Big East. Now
that's well, that's tough. Yeah. Yeah we have Villadova, we got
Creighton. Yeah, the Marquette.It's a big Dermot. Uh, it's
gotta be big Dermot. That's setup a bit. Yeah, Yukon.

(01:39:40):
I don't think Hurley did anything.I can't remember where this coach coaches,
but I'm just gonna say his name. I guess. Uh. I don't
think he coaches in the Big East. I'm gonna go with Patino. Ah,
you found it. It's paint John'sis in the Big East. Wow,

(01:40:01):
that's big. Good for them.Good damn it. You landed on
it. Anyway, that was theonly hope. But yes, famously did
screw his girlfriend in a restaurant.The two coaches that immediately popped into my
mind with that was Calipari and Patino. Yeah, but then it's like both
of them. I can't distinguish whodid what at this point when they were

(01:40:25):
in Kentucky and Louisville there or inMemphis and wherever they've all gone. But
yeah, Okay, cool Calipari switchedschools. By the way, still in
the SEC. We are at numbernine, We got two left. Here
we go, perfect score, hereyou go. I think he's underrated.
I think this coach is underrated.Wow. I think that he gets unfairly.

(01:40:56):
I mean, he's paid a lotof money, so he gets judged
unfairly for the for the place he'sat and the amount that they win.
H you know. And so there'sthe deal that he hasn't made it to
the you know, all the wayto the Promised Land type of deal.

(01:41:17):
If this university decides it's time tocut ties, careful what you wish for,
because you do a lot worse.You can do a lot worse.
Take that sack. Okay, stuckthat in at the end. What was
that about? Because it's so genericor what? Yeah, there was a

(01:41:38):
school I hate a person. Ihate. No. I think it was
about something that you did that youdidn't get to hear. Oh, okay,
this one, I think every otherone I've had a lean. I
don't know if I have a leanright now. Mhm. Never made it
to the Promised Land. But he'sa good coach, obviously. That has

(01:41:58):
to be the hint, and Peteseems to really respect this guy. Hot
see hot seat. I don't thinkit's big ten unless it's fucking Greg Guard.
If Pete has his opinion on GregGuard, I'm not gonna be happy.
It might be Greg Guard, GregGuard. It's Greg Guard Guard?

(01:42:26):
What battle opinion, Pete, he'ssuch high steam. He loves him,
So be careful what you wish for. He says. He did say that
I'll be okay if we fire him. You know what I'll risk It hasn't
quite mad the promised landsac he hasnot. That's true. That's a fact.

(01:42:47):
He has not done that. Okay, h Pete, Okay, last
one, perfect score. I'm gonnabe really bummed if I lose on the
very final question. There you go, Yeah, here we go this No,
no, I do not. He'sagain, probably not anybody you'd want

(01:43:15):
a vacation with. I have alot of respect for this guy, and
I part of it's the old guything in me, a little bit that
you know he possibly because they were. He's still very successful, but a
little more successful in the old typeof college system where people couldn't leave,

(01:43:35):
so he could have lots of recruitsfor one position type of But no,
I don't do. I know thathe was up, and I'm not saying
he gets two ships in a hootabout academics. That's the whole thing.
Yeah, I don't think he does. But nine of them don't. Don't

(01:43:58):
They don't care. No, Ithink he's one of the greatest college coaches.
Mm hmm. Would you take himon vacation. He'd have to pay
the thing right at the end foryou. Yeah, tough standards by Pete.
I'm gonna go. I don't wantany hints. I don't want nothing.

(01:44:21):
Can I make one quick comment?Two ships in a hoot? Yeah,
honestly, Yeah, not bad.I think this is Nick saban Zach.
You've just gone ten for ten.There we go, there we go,

(01:44:44):
Wow, ten up pride. I'msurprised, honestly, I thought it
was going to be. I mean, it was tough. None of them
were easy. In hindsight, Ireally held your hand on Coach k but
like that. But no, Iso this is the first time we played
that game. I think Dad dida good job, yes, towing the

(01:45:06):
line. He was pretty undescriptive.I think we could have been more random
than mel Kuiper but you know itwas squeezing. I mean, I think
the biggest giveaway was the mel Kuiperone, so it was random, but
he described it in such a waywhereas like it has to be correct.
I think so too that that orKim okay, yes, true, yeah,

(01:45:29):
that's true. But people at home, I think may have struggled a
little bit more. I think becauseI know your dad, I kind of
got some of it. But Iwill say you may have held my hand
with coach k I tried to distinguishpretty fucking hard. Are they a current
coach? Are they not a currentcoach? And I was still playing that
game with every The only piece thatmaybe you would have gone off the rails

(01:45:50):
is I think you. And I'mglad I didn't give this hint because you
went perfect. I was a littleworry on the first one, like you
were so football or oriented. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That was
the only thing when the only twofootball coaches on here are Dabbo and Saban,
right right, yeah, so yeah, but no, I think the

(01:46:13):
folks at home, if I hada guess, had a much harder time
with Bo Ryan. I thought thatwas impressive because cheating on wife and being
intense to a non Wisconsin fan isnot that descriptive of a college basketball coach.
Honestly, it would have been thefirst two things I said about ball
Ryan who he's one of my favoritecoaches of all time, and I would
have led with that and the mixof like Dad obviously likes him, right,

(01:46:40):
Yeah, a little different toad forthe Wisconsin coaches versus some of the
others. Well, Pete's loyal.That's why Pete would never fire a coach.
And I appreciate that. Yeah,the great guard. One's wild,
the great guard. What's the bestWe'll end it this way. What's the
best he had in the whole thing? I mean there was a okay,

(01:47:03):
yeah, the one that sticks withyou because for me, yes, I
love the little rascals. Reference thatone confused me. I will say that
one was for you are the scumbetween my toes? That's like that.
Really, he was going as hardas he could. He could have just
said I fucking hate that guy andit wouldn't have hit as hard. No,

(01:47:28):
people often ask me, what isyour dad's like go to swear word?
He like he swore cows when hefarmed, but like he didn't like
mean it. He does that whenhe's like really angry, like it's some
kind of deep held metaphor. Okay, okay, great game, great game.
Great first appearance in season eight byPete. Maycy Moore of Pete.

(01:47:50):
Later on the season, I think, oh, we're back from the game.
We didn't just record the first halfof the show. We're here and
I won the game and Pete madeHonestly, Pete, Pete's performance was m
v P worthy. It was incredible. It was MVP worthy. He's nervous
about it. So I I think, you know, kudos to Pete.

(01:48:11):
Uh, you know, people learnedwhat a gagger was. It was.
Yeah, it was a good momentfor everybody. Two ships in the hip
made a good comeback. So hehas have aggressive moments, but I think
I think he came off as daring. I was so close to ask him
what he thought of Jimmy Carter.Yeah, for sure, a little heartwar
making there, Yeah, he was. It's so funny. He loves Jimmy

(01:48:35):
Carter. I we in real life, pulling back record for a bit.
Zach and I have real life notdoing great medically, grandparents and I'm not
sure if I've heard my Dad moremostly than He's like, I don't think
Jimmy's gonna make it. I waslike, oh, little did he know?
By the way, Jimmy's ain't whatit used to be. And uh

(01:48:57):
yeah, Jimmy's proof of that.But all that said, fun game for
this week, Zach. I mean, we'll just end things on anything anything
else you need to talk about thisweek? Anything funny for the people.
What are your thoughts on the eclipse? It was incredible. I think Caitlyn
Clark probably made the eclipse happen aswell. She is God's gift to everything

(01:49:20):
the eclipse, so that is true. Diana Trossi or whatever, I think
she doesn't like Caitlyn Clark, soshe can go straight to hell. Undertaker
could take her too, But Idon't know. It's we're entering into a
weird time in sports. We're justabout to start the NHL NBA playoffs,
so yeah, maybe that'll be interesting. NHL will be NBA. Is it

(01:49:47):
am I just on the outside oris it drastically uninteresting? I don't know.
They have done such a poor jobgetting us to care about the teams
who are actually good. And Igotta tell you, I already saw the
NBA Finals. It was the NBACup. We could have ended the season
there. We could end it's there. You know it's gonna be funny.

(01:50:09):
You and I are going to beforced to care about it. Potentially the
playoffs. Oh I'm sure what wayor another I'm gonna be all in.
I can tell you that, yes, I won't be. That's not a
possibility for me, but there couldbe. Which is is this? How
is? I don't know if I'veever cared less about NBA basketball. And
it might be the Timberwolves year.It's not that's what you think. I

(01:50:34):
if they win a championship, Ican't wait to hear what you say about
Rudy Gobert. That will be bad. That'll be painful. However, not
knowing exactly where the standings are otherthan Timberwolves being in the one seed,
I still still I believe. Istill stand on my preseason prediction of or

(01:50:54):
early season prediction of Timberwolves getting ahigh seed in the Warriors beating him first
round. Oh, I knows.I've never been more disappointed by someone than
Tyre's halliburn I just started caring aboutand he's not that good. He can
shoot kinda. Sometimes he can pass. Sometimes I don't know. The boy
can pass, the boy can't pass. He's overrated, and Draymond Green needs

(01:51:15):
counseling. That's what I've learned thisseason. That's the NBA, baby,
that's what they got. That iswhat they got. Lakers are bad.
Lebron's just like straight up cranky.Lebron's making his sub joid the NBA suitor
because he wants to leave. Thatis funny. That is good. Meanwhile,
NHL's great. I can't I can'tname three players yet, but still

(01:51:41):
still waiting for that. NHL needsto market themselves better. This past week,
they had one of the fastest fightsof all time two seconds into the
game, where everyone dropped their mitsand just started throwing hands. That's awesome.
I do love that. I wishthat happened in the street. Yeah,
not on ice where it's all slippy. Yes, sound goes off and
we're just fighting in the intersection.I think that'd be good. True.

(01:52:03):
Yeah, interesting time in sports.Things will start to heat up. We
got the NFL Draft coming that willdominate all the headlines while other sports are
actually going on. That's right bythe way. Baseball actively happening baseball.
Your dad and Emily suffered a toughweek. One they did they lost in
Fantasy baseball. It was tough,especially because they were like, we can't

(01:52:28):
lose this act and I was like, I think you might watch out.
I want to go out in thisnote unless you have anything else. Oh
no, no, I'm desperate foryou to say something of interest. Okay,
So one last WrestleMania thing, andI gotta tell you, I think
it's gonna be the title of thepodcast. I'm gonna melk this for all
it's worth. So I watched itwith Lindsay. Yeah, knows very little

(01:52:51):
about wrestling. She used to watchold rock promos, so she liked that
great. She ended up liking RandyOrton nice. She couldn't remember Seth Rowland's
name for the entire time in avery DiAngelo d'Artagnan type of way. Yeah,
so when she tried to say Sethfreaking Rollins, she knew it was
a very white name, and whatshe came up with was, Oh,

(01:53:14):
that's Jason freaking Bateman. That's good. That's good. It was very good.
Interesting, like I just know itsomething white? What's his name?
Like? That is a pretty whitename. I never really thought about that
my last resume, you take away? How come I'm never surprised by what
celebrities there? Oh wrestling, It'slike wow, never would have guessed Lil

(01:53:39):
Wayne. Yeah, Snoop had hismoment again too, which Snoopy Snoop lied
about how many people were there.She had to get a four to twenty
reference in there. Yeah, that'sso good. Uh, you know,
thank you for listening to the show. We hope you enjoyed. Next time,
we hope you you listen and inthe meantime, don't listen to the

(01:54:00):
nerds. Look right at it,look out, soak it in? How
am I supposed to see the sunwith sunglasses on? All year? They
tell you don't look at the sun. Now it's gone and I can't look
at it. You know who's tellingtelling you not to look at the sun?
People who want you to miss it. They're looking at it. Yeah,
exactly do you look at the sun? Look away? Well, I'll
tell you what it looks like.Don't worry you can't have you ever have

(01:54:24):
you ever known a millionaire who didn'tlook at the sun. So let's step
move and swing to the berry spots. Let's say it up there and let
show a bery's just grab, don'tpop phone, settle in, Let's have
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