2025 MotoGP RedBull Ring Race Review – More of the Same with Some Differences... - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Oh god, trying to open a bottle and a microphone
isn't good, is it? Steve, my good man, how the
devil are you?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm slightly nervous. I thought you're going to stab yourself then,
but I'm all right now, little but I thought there's
gonna be injuries, then beer sloshing everywhere. You stabbing yourself.
I was like, oh my god, you.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Would have got to witness it, so that's all good.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, when you have to fill out that form at
the hospital. So what happened? Well, yeah, yes, I'm good, buddy.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm very good, my friend. I'm very good. Yeah, I was.
I was trying to be subtled with my bottle opening
because my bottle opening is on my keys, so I
really want my keys rattling. I just wanted the sound
of the bottle opening, and then that I was holding
it weird and but anyway, it doesn't really matter, Steve.
I'm all good. How was your weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It was good, mate. It was a very chill one.
What do we do? Oh, Sarah was away Friday and Saturday,
so it's just me and the boys boys days. That
was good, and he obviously watched the Rose watched their
play football. That's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Nice And I know that you introduced the boys to
the Lord of the Rings. How did that go?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Mixed reaction?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, I did wonder whether they were a bit too
young to sit through three and a half hours of
Frodo looking sad.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, extended edition Lord of the Rings is very long.
But now I was invested for about an hour. They
got a little boy.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
That's a solid start.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, he was alright, Brody, no interest at all. He's
way too young. That was very optimistic on my part.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's fair. But I mean if if Fenzo can sip
for an hour of the Fellowship of the Ring, that's
a solid That's probably the entirety of the Two Towers.
Like the Fellowship of the Ring is a bit of
a drag.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's a long one. Yeah, it's a long one. But
now we got through. It's good. I don't quite know
when I'm going to embark on two Towers yet extended
of course, but we will get there. Might give it
a year or two, let me get some age into.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Him, but that's fair. Or just fast forward the ends.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, just fastward the hit tree bed gobbling on. But yeah,
that was all right if I enjoyed it anyway today?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yes, good, a good bit.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I haven't watched those films in ages. Man, I need
to sit down and do a marathon. Maybe i'll do
it this winter.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, it's definitely a winter Winter's day kind of thing.
Full an afternoon, yeah quite. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, with
the first stepping stone is in place?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, excellent. It's tough. So we did have the Austrian
round of Moto GPS the weekend, Steve, So shall we?
The show notes are incredibly long, I realized after I'd finished,
so I don't know. Normally I can estimate how long
the show is going to be by how long my

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notes are, and if Matt Patam continues, this is going
to be a three hour show. So I don't think
that's going to happen. I think I've just written a
bit more than usual. I think our chat will be
the same. But let's dive into it, shall we? Just
in case.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Let's go for it, buddy, because this could be.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
A one Yes. Excellent. So I'm Tim, He's Steve, and
this is for the love of Moto GP. If you
are new to the show, welcome. If you are returning,

(03:22):
welcome back. This is for the Love of Moto GP,
the show where Steve and I sit down with a
couple of beers and talk about Moto GP like we
would in the pub. I don't normally have a bottle.
I normally have a can, so Steve's on the juice.
But yeah, it was a challenge for me today to
open a bottle. But I've got another can in the

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freezer ready to go for after the break. So all
is good in the world. We do need to say
as well, we're a dayly recording. Apologies, but we're here.
That's what matpens.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, that's my fault. Someone wanted to have a fortieth birthday,
so I.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Was like, unbelievable, how dare they have birthdays?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I know, terrible, so my bad. But we're all good.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
We're here now exactly, we're here now. So, as I
said Steve, it was the Austrian Moto GP round at
the Red Bull Ring. We've got a fair amount of
news to go over. Yeah, it's got three big news
items I want to touch on, and then we'll run
through the top fives in Moto three, Moto two and

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both Motor GP races. And then there's a bunch of
other MOTORGIP talking to points to get to We won't
do a big what we're looking for in Hungry, because
who the fuck knows what's going to happen in Hungry.
But we will make our predictions and at the end
of the show I will be talking about the Fantasy.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Week just as I'm sure you will.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But before we get there, Steve, let's start up at
the top here. Thursday of the race weekend, it was
announced there is a new stability control in Moto GP,
new electronic settings.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes announced A knew was it across the board factories
its factories bit but asymmetric kind of setting that everyone
would be using exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
So this is a new setting within the spec ECU.
It's known as stability Control and it's designed to help
riders control the sliding of their machines, mainly on corner
entry and exit. It's kind of like traction control, but
for when the bike is a little bit sideways. Yeah, yes,
and it works in the same way. If it detects

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the bike is too far sideways, it will reduce the
engine torque to allow the rider to get control again,
and is designed to increase safety by reducing the possibility
of high sight crashes.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
No, yeah, so it has its merit.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't think it's mandatory to have this setting turned on, though.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
There was no mention of that was there's no like
you must have this one. It was like it was just.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And everyone can use it. Seemed to be what the
the yeah, and what was being told to us.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, it comes across as like an option if you
want it.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how man treate is. I
guess we might find out in the future. I think
everyone was using it. By my understanding, it seemed to
be that all manufacturers wanted to use it. I suppose
in case it does become a mantary thing, everyone's going
to want the data on it so that they know
how to use it for the coming season exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
That you've got to give it a try. You can't
just write it off before you've even.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Tried it, exactly. And then it gets made mandatory at
the start next season, and then everyone's like all the
you know, do Catty haven't used it, And they're like, well,
fuck now we're really far behind because we don't know
how this setting works.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, and then they're like, actually, you know what we've
got Mark.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Will be fine, well quite quite And that's the thing
here is this. The instruction of the system has been
met with mixed opinions some writers, teams and fans. Most
teams actually seem too quite happy about it, and most
riders seem pretty keen on the idea. But there's been
some notable names not so happy with the introduction of
the control system.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, yes, there has so.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Mark Marquez, well you know, he's winning everything at the moment.
He doesn't want any changes. Didn't seem too keen, but
didn't really say a lot, whereas Casey Stoner has been
far more vocal when is he not? Hey? Well quite
And that's it with Stoner here, Like, let's face it, though,
Casey stone it is one of the most talented motorcycle

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races we've ever seen, could just ride anything. We saw
what happened when Valentiner Rossi, arguably the greatest of all time,
got onto the bike that Casey Stoner was winning on
the year before. Rossi couldn't get it anywhere near a
podium like so, Casey Stoner was absolutely capable of riding
without the assists that we have today exactly, but he

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does have this belief that by taking control of the
machines away from the riders, the series is actually getting
more dangerous and not less, because the riders are fully
able to rely on electronics and don't really have to
worry too much about what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
No, which is.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Exactly yeah, yeah, quite. There's a reason that you can't
be using am as this if you're trying to play
Call of Duty and a really high level online or
I don't know much about first person shooters anymore, I
have an ages.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, but I guess he is right, because if you
could just pin it and slide into a corner and
not worry, you are kind of taking the skill away
from the rider a little bit. And then if ever
there is a time when it suddenly gets binned off,
these guys don't know how to ride without it.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
So to me, and this is kind of yeah, and
this is kind of what he's saying. Casey Stoner is
claiming that you can fully open the throttle at any
point around a lap and the bike will do what
the electronics tell it, so if they set to spin
or a slide, they just won't deliver the power. If
this is just actually accurate and not hyperbole. It does
take a lot write a skill out of the equation.

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But Stone's real concern here seems to be if something
goes wrong with the electronics. Riders today aren't learning to
modulate the attraction with the inputs, so they're not prepared
for when the system glitches. They'll just open the throttle
and get sent to the moon when the attraction of
sibility control doesn't kick in. And we saw a great
example of this back in I think it was twenty
thirteen when mart Marquez it was to cut the traction Controlmate,

(09:21):
I think it was thirteen because he was riding really Larry.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah remember that, And it just goes to show next
corner off goes for Droza. You know the foota armstrong.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Quite, that's one of the highest every scene a rider goin.
He must have been pushing twenty feet in the air.
It came down like he was high.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, so he is right. You know, if these guys
haven't learned how to manage the throttle and the bike
in a way that prevents these slides and helps them
to ride with it. You know, look at the five
hundred those.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well quite yeah, how much those.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Things used to slide around and everyone has a different
rhino style. Some can do it, some can't do it,
and that goes to show differences in great grinding. So yeah,
I could see arguments for both sides of the track.
From a safety point of view, yes, but from a
skilled point of view, and Stone is right. When it
does glick you out, and it will at some point,
that person is then absolutely screwed because they do not

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know what to do.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah. I remember in twenty fifteen Rossi and Lorenzo. I
can't where it was, but there was a track where
it was. There was just no grip. No one could
get grip, and Rossi was just able to streak away
from the field and Lorenzo it was just stuck. I
couldn't do anything. And afterwards they asked Lorenzo about it.
Lorenzo was like, oh, THET traction control wasn't doing what
it's supposed to do. It was just spinning. Couldn't do anything.
And they asked Rossi and Rossi was like, yeah, we

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went old school. He's like, attraction control was in your
right wrist, That's how you had to ride this race.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Perfect example right there. Everyone should have that skill base,
you know, if they were to drop back down to
club racing, you wouldn't have it.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, well, you dropped down to the super bikes worlds
does have a BSP doesn't have an attraction control like
there is plenty of gracing that doesn't attraction control.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, I see, I could see both sides of the fence.
But I think it's just something else to turn the
sport into a video game that we don't really need.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, for Mark's part, he seems to be less critical,
but still isn't overly happy with the new systems for
making it easier for everyone else to try and catch him,
although as evidenced by the result this weekend, they're still
quite a long way for everyone to go. Yeah, before
he has distressed much.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, there's big margins to be gapped. But he is
right though, it is another aid for everyone else to
catch him up. So if we were to put them
all on a factory spectm same bike, I'm sure he'd
just be miles ahead of everyone. But this isn't ay
to help everyone get closer. So yeah, it's there for

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a reason, but it's not. But we think it's optional,
so some people use it, some people won't, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, it's also just this interesting thing, isn't it. It's
always the riders who are winning or arguably some of
the best that we've ever seen, that have an issue
with these changes. Stone and Marquez could probably be dropped
into any era of motorcycle racing and be successful. And
while I do think there is some truth to what
certainly Stone is saying, the more control we take away
from riders to the more of an engineering championship, marje

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he becomes I've already seen that, and you know, good
luck winning a race or two, or more than a
race or two a year. If you're wanted to catty
like there is just you're not going to do it anyway.
So it's already becoming this engineering championship.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I do kind of think for me personally, I don't
really care how much rider skill is involved in racing
if the racing is really good, because the best riders
will still win. Those who are most skilled will still win.
It's just their margin of victory might be slightly smaller.
They will be adapt and change. I just want the

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races to really exciting. I'm not convinced stability control is
going to make it more exciting, but if it does
in the long run, then I'm not against it. If
I want to watch rider skill, I'll go and watch
you know, what's the trials riding or something. Yeah, it's
just absolute rider skill. But this is racing, and if
it keeps the racing better, I'm kind of for it.

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Although yeah, I don't know, I'm a bit torn.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I'm quite tall on it. I just want to
always ever want is good racing, and if this is
a way of bunching everyone up and getting a bit
of shoulder barge and go and then sorry, so the
best in the world will always win that, so they
are there for a reason. And if it does help
close the gaps on those further behind, Yeah, if we're

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watching the battle for fifth as oppose the first because
they've struck away, I'd rather watch the battle for fifth,
so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's And that's kind of sums it up, isn't it.
There's always that annoying moment in a race where there's
a great battle going on the final lap, if you know,
the bomb step on the podium or yeah, maybe it
is for fifth, but it's a great scrap app and
then they cut away to watch Mark Marquez cross the
line four or five seconds ahead of everyone else, and
you're like, oh, and now we've just missed this epic
And it always happens just as someone is diving into

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the last corner and then they cut away. You're like, oh,
as if they've done that. Yeah, it doesn't matter where
the racing is as long as the racing is good.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, exactly that, I agree.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So, yeah, that's that's this new stability control. Get used
to it. We're going to have a lot more electronic
aids coming as the series progresses. So I think we're
just going to have to get used to it and
hope it makes the racing more exciting in the long run.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Next up then Steve gun to Steiner and Tech three.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So over the summer break, it was reported by most
sport dot com that a deal to sell Tech three
to a consortingum investors headed by the infamous F one
team Bosk and to Steiner was signed and delivered that
Herve Pontcheral has denied these claims. In an interview with
The Race, he said that while he's certainly in talks

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with Gunta as well as other investors, no deal is
done yet.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, it does. It's quite an honest guy, Herve,
so I would believe that.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, he is the guy that kind of says
it how it is. So I do believe there's not
a deal done yet. There's very rarely smoke without fire though,
especially when well respected sources like Motorsport doing the reporting.
So I suspect it won't be too long before a
deal is done and it may well just be a
matter of finalizing details at us this point. But I'm
not sure when we'll get an announcement because it would

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have made sense to do it in Austria with them
being KTM, and there's not another circuit that really makes
a huge amount of sense for a big reveal. Obviously
Lamon made sense, but Lamon's been gone, so yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
But I think it's just a case now they're just
probably slugging out the find the details. Maybe they were
hoping to do it in Austria, but yeah, like her
they said, you know, they're still talks in place, it
just didn't happen. And this is the world of corporate business,
so things do get slugged out across a board table.
So from this point on, I don't think it really

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matters when they do it. I'm sure we'll hear soon.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah exactly. I think we've lost the three big races
that it would have been, Yeah, a good time for
an announcement. They'd have been France, Thailand or Austria just
because Red Bull, Austria and Thailand, KTM Austria take three.
So after that, it probably doesn't made.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
No, it could come at any time now, so and
I think that that will probably benefit them as well.
They'll be fully aware of, like the the boost to
announce and make a big announcement and like's say your
home race. And I'm sure that was probably weighing on
people's minds, but now that's gone, it sort of alleviates
that pressure a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then finally on the news items
here Stave, the Bagger World Cup has been officially confirmed.
Oh I'm so excited, mate, Austria, and we saw the
official naming and announcement of the Bagger's calendar for next season.

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For anyone that doesn't know much about this, this is
an evolution of the King of the Baggers series that
runs alongside Moto America, and the Bag of World Cup
will bring Harley Davison machines to the global stage.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I think that the King of the Baggers is Harley
and Indian, Yeah, the two manufacturers, whereas the Bag of
World Cup will just be Harley's.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. Speaking about the Bag of World Cup, you see
Bradley Smith's crash the weekend. No, I did not terrible
crash wherever they were racing, tumbled with the bike on
top of him.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh god, and that's a fucking big machine.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's a big, old heavy unit. Broken ribs, I believe,
and a long recovery. He's okay, okay, but I saw
shots of it like Replayers and core Hord. That was nasty.
He's proper tumbling and the bikes catches him up and
kind of just rolls over the top of him.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh god, was this a King of the Baggers round?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah? Yeah, one of the rounds this weekend of last week.
But yeah, proper nasty.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
But okay, that's not great. I imagine Bradley Smith will
be headlining one of the Bag of World Cup teams.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, you would have thought so. He'll be back from it,
just after a long recovery. But looking at the bikes
and the racing of wat some clips. Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be really exciting. So this
is The bikes will be based on Harley Davison's Grand
American Touring Machine and the high Davison Bag of World
Cup race bikes will be quote radically transformed for speed
and agility.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Not two words that really go with a Harley, but
maybe speed a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
On a really long straight desert road.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, with a slight sweeping corner.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, exactly, but not more than four or five degrees,
because after that it becomes a bit challenging.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, you're scraping all that lovely chrome on zip floor.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Exactly. Yeah, it's amazing to think they're gonna have them
leather panniers flapping about, going to be in the way.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, I'm sure at some point someone's gonna be rough,
like rifling through somebody else's panniers. We've got in here.
You go down straight, having a little look. That's waiting
that one.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But that's my beard, hair cream, Leave that alone.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
That's my groove.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, exactly, the face helmet, my avior, sunglasses, my long beard.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, just straight out, just one not stopping straight out
of the gates and down the motorways.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yes, here we go, yeah exactly, just off into the
car park pulling a bit of a Petrocosta from qualifying.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yes, exactly that.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
So for the bag of World Cup, then there are
twelve races announced and this will be over six rounds
and these are all been announced. We're going to really
interesting actually, so they chose these six rounds because these
are some of the best circuits to ride to honor
Harley Davison. Pose why they chose these six.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Another audience golding to the circuit.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Absolutely, And I'm just going to put it out there now.
If Harley Davison would like me and Steve to go
to these races to help promote it, and are willing
to lend us a couple of Harley's so we can
go and do the rides to these rounds, then please
do get in touch.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'd be just a game for that.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I'm just leaving that one out there to the universe
and we'll just see what happens if.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Anyone from help will give you honest reviews, will even
video log it anything, exactly anything. I mean imagine I'm
in Silverston, not so much but.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Right quite so. Yeah, the six rounds are going to
be Circuit of the America's obviously and Migello Assen, Silverston
Aragon and the Red Bull Ring which will be the
final round. So yeah, I think it's going to be
super cool. I think it will be a really fun
series to watch, and I get guarantee it gets more

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eyes than most unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, probably, and it's more bums in seats. It's another
audience to bring to the circuits. You know how many times.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Both directions like Harley are going to be super keen
for this to try and get to the European market.
Apparent they've only got like a two percent market share
in Europe, so they're.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
The Harley garage in our local city, Norwich has shut down.
No Haw's it. Yeah, that's gone, which was a shame
because I used to like going in there and just
having a snoop at these bloody great bikes and they
look lovely.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Really, this is the problem. Everyone walks through the door
to go and look at them and sit on them
and then leave. No one ever bought anything.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You might buy a key ring, yeah, yeah, there are.
There is a bit of a cult following around here,
so there are several big sort of Harley groups and
customization shops about, but it's just not something you associate
with like the UK.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Or europe man Like my European bike sales are all
like sports tourists adventure tours like, it's all BMW's and
ktms like, but they're you know, the gs or whatever
the KTM tour is called, or trans out or something
like that. They're the kind of bikes that do really well.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
The UK roads especially We're we're here, we are over
here in the East. Shite, I would, it's bad enough,
a mild thing. I know, modern Harley won't have the
same shitty suspension that I've got.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Now. But they're not roads. We don't have many roads
that are designed for that kind of riding, do we like,
especially Norfolk like you're not really able, like I think. Well,
my opinion is a super bike is a waste of time,
full stop. But anything over a few hundred CC's around
most English roads is just too much. You can't do

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what it's supposed to do. And then if you're riding
a big bike and not doing what it's supposed to do,
it's a sort to ride.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It does become boring up and down the country on
smaller bikes had a little four hundred sixty things, and
that was fantastic. Throw everywhere, and I've ridden with guys
like on our ones, I could catch up easily. For
the twisties, Yeah, left me on the little tiny straits.
But I was having a great time. I having my
knee down on every corner, whereas they were still sitting
a bit upright, and I was hanging off this thing.

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I was having a whale of a time. You don't
need a big thing around here, that's what she said, thankfully, Yes,
thank god, even when it's cold. Yeah, I don't know,
but we'll see. We'll see next year, you know. I'm
sure there'll be shots to the car parks and there'll

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be Harley's everywhere, and I really hope there is.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, hopefully. I think it's gonna be super cool. I'm
really look forward to watching the racing.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, and hopefully we'll be there. I'm gonna get some
chaps in anticipation. Yes, I can't grow well, I could
grow a Gandalf. I've gone fully gray now with all
the stress.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
So I don't think you're a to ride a Harley
until you've got a gray beard. To be honest, I
think that's part of the entry exam.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I'm on it now, Sarah, I'm growing a beard. I'm
going full Gandel.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I probably would.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Look like it's literally white. It would be epic.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Nice. We're going gand off the white. They're not even
gand off the gray.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, it's properly white man slightly ginger. So it's gone white,
not gray.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, yeah, I'm still a bit radigast. Really, it doesn't
come through very well. When it does, there's birds nesting
in there, you know how it is.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Would be looked the
part easy riders. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Exactly have to watch that now, ridy, Steve, let's move
it on then. That's the kind of the news items
covered there. So let's dive straight in to the Moto
three top five before we take a break. Shall we
go for a buy excellent Moto three around Austria, then, Steve,

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this was an exciting race, not the usual eleven bike
scrap for the win, because four riders broke away early
and it looked like the fight for the wind was
between those four until the final couple of laps, when
the rest of the group caught up and then it
was a pretty frenetic final couple of laps, but for

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most of the race it was just a really fun
four way duel.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah. Yeah, it was a fantastic race. Like you said,
there was mainly four guys involved until the last two
three laps when everyone else caught up, and then it
just got mental, as.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
We would expect, off caught up and then it all
fell apart.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, then always sideways, but it was great and watching
them catch up that anticipation, it was fantastic. It was
a very good race.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, it was. I enjoyed it a lot. So
fifth place then was Jose Antonio Ruada, And fifth place
feels like a poor result for a wader considering the
season he's had so far, but he was side the
top ten for most of the race, so fifth is
actually a really good recovery.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, from most of the race he was way down
in the back, So fifth is really good for this
young man at this road track.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah. Gr it did look like he was going to
lose a chunk of points to some of his title challenges,
which wouldn't really have mad considering his lead. But while
he still did lose some points to them, it wasn't
anywhere near as bad as it could have been.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, No, exactly, damage limitation, I.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Feel, yeah, absolutely, And he's still got a hefty what
is that seventy point leads.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Pretty much lead.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, so he's still looking at pretty healthy for this championship.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, he'd be fine.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Fourth place. Then Maximo key Les, the name that we
just cannot get out of our mouths right now. He
was running right at the sharp end for most of
the race and looked well set up to win until
he got muniof right at the end. He properly did
he did, but to be fair to David Keiler's was

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already running running wide and just gave him that final
little nudge.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, the door was open. There was a gap, yes,
and you're going to take it last lap, you see,
if you're happy, you're going through it fair enough. It
was clean compared to some challengers that I've seen in
the past, some of the sledgehammer dive bombs that were
seeing in the past, this wasn't that.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
This was more gentle, yeah exactly. This was This was
a love tap as opposed to a barge.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, this is just this quaint little slap.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah exactly. He even took his glove off just a
little gentle backhand.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, yes, exactly, the challenge you to.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
It, exactly. But with this result, Keilas is now in
fourth in the champion on exactly the same number of
points as David Munyoff in third and Alvarez Karpe in fifth.
There are three riders right now on one hundred and
thirty nine points. It's looking like a really fun duel

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for third place in the championship. It's such a fucking
shame that this isn't for the win.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yes, yes, this is, but it's so fantastic.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
We love a close belt, so yes, quite.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It will be a fun one to watch as this
season progresses.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Absolutely, and I'm sure, wow, it's an interesting thing here
because I was gonna say I'm sure Kiles will take it,
but David munyof and in fact third place in this
one was David Munyoth and he is absolutely the on
form rider in the series right now. Five podiums in
the last six races, two of them are wins. Like
he's he's the on form Ridley. He's scored more points

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in the last six races than anyone else. Yep, so
I it's hard I think I'm still putting my money
on Kei Lez to finish their championship and to beat munyoff.
But interestingly, when you look at their non scores and
things like they've had an equal amount of non scores,
the duel between them is pretty solid.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's pretty much on power at this point, isn't it.
Where they're matching at different stages of the year. So
it's coming up even it's going to be a pham
one to see how this pans out. I don't want
to make a call at the minute because I just
don't know the form money of his on you'd have
to put money on him. But then Kiles has also

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had equal amounts of form at different times, so.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
And you know, if one of the riders is going
to crash or get a penalty, that's going to lose
them a load of spots. It's going to be so
I think is going to beat him money, but it's
going to be tight.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, he is probably the safer bit.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah. But for muniof this race, it was an exceptional
final few laps. He was a little over exuber and
as have said, but after spending much of the race
at bottom of the top ten, He really got the
job done when he needed to, and he didn't get
any penalties, so he was quite hard with the other riders.
He was. His moves were on the line. He didn't

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get any penalties, which means they were legal, which means
he's improving.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, yeah, that which is a bonus.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yes quite. He's going to be a really potent force
next year. The kids Muniov battle next year is going
to be really good.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's going to be fun. He's going to be absolutely
really fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Second in this one then was re you say Yamanaka
and Yousa Here spent most of the race in the
top four, but didn't look to have the final one percent.
Over the last few laps, however, Munyov cleared the way
for him to get a well earned second place.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You're going to take it anyway it comes to you,
and he was just in the right place and he
was handed.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Spent the whole race the right place, like he had
led some laps. He'd been fighting with the top four
for the whole thing, so it had been a really
good battle from him. It did look like if if
Minyof hadn't arrived, he probably would have finished fourth, but
manyof did arrive, was there to take the spoils, and
he had a really good performance and a really well
earned second place.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, yeah, should be thankful he did arrive.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and then first place was Ann help Picquerras, taking
just his second win of the year. Pickeras was right
in the hunt from the go, swapping the lead multiple
times throughout the race, and he looked like the rider
I expected him to be from the start of the year.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Yeah, he did look really good this race. Many
times you like to say, what leading the race, swapping
battle in he looked very comfortable, very solid, and just
fantastic to see from him.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was really cool. He's now up
to second in the championship on one hundred and sixty
eight points, but as we said, he's still got a
seventy one point app to even attempt to close down
Ruaida at the top there.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, it's doable, especially if it carries on like this,
But there's gonna be a lot of luck involved, I think.
But it's not unheard of. There's still plenty of races
left to do it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, quite, he's all in his hands. No, it's not
all in his hands. Even if he wins everything. Now
Ryder needs to have some bad luck to start to
not win the title. Yes, and that was Moto three, Steve.
So before we dive into Moto two, let's take a

(32:34):
quick break and then when we come back, we'll cover
up Moto two and the Moto GP top fives. Let's
go for it, buddy, good stuff. So guys, bear with
us for just one moment and we will be right
back with you. And we are back. Thank you for

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being with us. Bladders are empty, beers are full, and
we are ready to crack on with the Moto to
top five. So I've had to put that beer down.
It was in the freezer and it's a bit cold
to right now.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Glued itself on.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, I was a bit worried. It felt like it
was a bit solid, so I got it out at
the start of the break and it thought enough to
give us a good crack. It's not frozen.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Amazing. Wasn't that kind of just done?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
No, I've had it before. I've some recording where I
pulled out the freezer and it just didn't do anything
and then it was just frozen. But this one is not.
This one's okay.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
That was good that's when you can hear the icy
chunks floating around and you're like, oh, this is not
good because it never tastes the same once it's been frozen.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
No, but that's because I'm not patient enough to wait
for it to thaw out properly. I'd just start drinking it.
So you drink all of the alcohol straight away because
that's not frozen, and then what you've got left is
just like beer flavored water.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, stodgy shit are slushie?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah exactly, and be a slushy.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's not a bad thing. But there we go.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
So Steve the Moto to race. Then this one wasn't
quite as exciting. That was no GP but sorry, but
it did keep us on our toes because there was
always tension. There was always something that was about to happen,
and it very rarely did, but it was enough to
keep me glued to the screen.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's like when you're watching the TV series and
you get those episodes of that kind of fill in episode.
Nothing really happens, but it builds the drama. That's kind
of what this felt like. You were waiting for it
to kick off, but that will come next weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, and when the drama did happen? It wasn't actually
racing drama a lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
No, No, that is very true.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So let's start in fifth place then, Steve, let's go
for it. Fifth place in this one was one arbor Llino,
and it kind of snuck up on me that this
has happened because Arbilino was quiet for most of the
race and I didn't realize he was this far up
at all. But a cracking result in the end.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, he had a great race. But I didn't either.
I watched it. I was like, where's he coming from?
Just kind of snuck in there. You know that guy
who just appears at a party, Where the fuck did
you come from? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Exactly, and then disappears just as quickly without turning anyone.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, just a nig, Like, where's he gone now? And
he's just off with a hot chick.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, he's just put an Irish exit and he's off,
he's away.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, he's gone out the door. So very cool.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah. Fourth place then was albert A rain Ass, and
rain Ass looked solid during this race and was fast
for a while. I thought he was going to fight
his way up to the podium, but it wasn't quite
to be in the end.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
No, he just need another couple of laps. He was
fast in the last laps, he was closing just a
few more labs, just too far back. But it was
a solid shoean.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, another good showing from rain Ass. But
he kind of I don't know with iraon Ass. This
is where he's at. Isn't it like he's got the
results of just creeping into the top five. He very
rarely does much more than that, but he's there relatively consistently.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, he's always a front runner of some descriptions, which
is good enough.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, third place. Then in this one Steve at the
bottom of the podium was Cellestino Vietti, top Bosco Scuro
in the race and now only thirteen points behind Dixon
in the Boscoscuro Championship of Battle.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yes, he's really pulled it back with Dixon's woes.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, quite for his part in this race, Dixon finished
twentieth after having to run really wide with Roberts. And
then there was that incidentt just one corner later where
a just had a big crash out of two B
and was almost hit by a hit by Alonso. We
may actually have been a hit by him. It was
super close, and we've really believe it didn't look like
it was picked up on any of the cameras. The

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only thing we saw was like just after it had happened.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those where it's just so
quick you just don't see it.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah. I haven't seen any announcements of that age, just though,
is he okay? From that?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I think there is one. He is going to be replaced.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
This weekend, so he's not okay, he's the answer.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
No, let me have a quick gain that. I'm sure
I've seen something along that line.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Okay. This is the advantage of you being on social
media whereas I'm not, really so you get the up
to date information about these things that aren't Yeah, because
a lot of this Motor two news doesn't get tend
to get published in the same way the motive heat
news gets published obviously.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah. Yeah, three days ago, lucky to be walking away
today relatively okay, after a scary crash on that one,
trying to recover and get back soon. He is being
replaced by I can't remember by okay, but yeah, he's
not going to be there this weekend. I don't think
we spent too long doing it, because I'll be a

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here all day.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
He just gets sucked in and then before you know that,
you're watching videos of cats.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, here we go, got it. He will be replaced
by Sergio Garcia. I do believe.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh, Sergio Garcia. Who I guess we didn't really speak
much about this, but Serdia Garcia was dropped this year,
like in the middle of the season, very quietly, dropped
by the anti helmet squad.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah. Yeah, So unfortunately we'll be visiting ags in two
who was taking time to recover after his heavy question.
As a whole team wished him the strongest speed recovery.
Stepping in for the Australian is none other than Sergio Garcia.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Okay, well, I mean hopefully this is a chance for
Sergio to rEFInd the form that he had at the
start of last year and yes, getting back on the
road to getting a ride and hopefully being back up
at the front again.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
But back to Chasta and Vietti. He's generally sectional about
the Red Bull Ring. He's won for the last two
years on the bounce, so seeing him on the podium
actually should have been no big shock to anyone. Even
with his long lap penalty, he still managed to get
on the box. So this was a really good ride
from Vietti.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, he had a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah. Second place then was one Danny Olgardo And it
was a shock to see Orgardo performing so strongly in
this race. Obviously, he was really good at the start
of the year. He was easily outperforming David Alonso's teammate,
and then he sort of dropped back a little bit,
much like we saw I already a Motor GP, to

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be fair, like he had a couple of really banging rounds,
but then has kind of dropped back. So seeing Orgardo
back at the front was really good, and it looked
a little while he might be able to challenge for
the win, but he just didn't quite have enough. But
I think he was on pole position, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
He He was. Yeah, and it's really good weekend for him. Yeah,
one of his better ones.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm really pleased for, absolutely his best one in Moto too.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, but the whole race, he just
looked convince him.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah yeah, really Sorr, it looked like it wasn't going
to perfect wrong and just really really good and his
teammate to be fair that Alonzo was looking properly good
before he crashed out.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yes, yes, he was so.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, the two class rookies had at a really really
good pace this weekend. And I've said it before and
I'll say it again. They are going to be a
really really potent lineup next year.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yes, yeah, I completely agree agree with you on that one.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And then winning the race Steve my man do Ogo
doing it there again, Yes, bouncing back from his two
bad rounds, Diego looked unstoppable this weekend. And thanks to
Gonzalez his retirement due to a stone going through his radiator,
which is such an unfortunate way to have to retire.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
From annoying, but it happens.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, and thanks to Canet's poor race due to being
battered from a big cracktice crash, a crack this crash
notice new one practice crash, Marrera has dragged himself back
into the championship conversation. He's currently only thirty five points
back from Gonzales and sixteen points back from Cannet with

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nine rounds remaining. There is plenty of time and points
left for him to make a real title charge here
and if he wins every race, which granted he's very unlikely,
but he will take the title no matter what happens,
so it's still all in his hands.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
It is. Yeah, this is really living up. We just
need a couple more rounds like this and he's all
over it. Yeah quite, you know, Yeah, it really could
come to life, and I'm hoping it does. Yeah, we
don't want to see anyone get hurt with a crash,
but sometimes another mechanical would be nice.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
No, I don't think we even need that now at
this point. I think, no matter what happens, I think
we're going to see a pretty reasonable slug fest from
Gonzales Canet and for a good few races across the
rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
It's going to be. I'm looking forward to it. And Morrera, though,
he is the talk of the town right now. What
he's confirmed. Yamaha have confirmed they've offered him a contract,
a three year contract with Pramak ELSR have offered him
a I think it's a two year deal, so yeah.
Kind of the the whole Motor GP City season right
now is just waiting on Morrera to make a decision.

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Is he going to go to Elsie. Is he going
to go to Pramak.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Guy's got opportunities.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, And there's a lot of motor GP riders sitting
there wondering where they're going to be next year, but
they can't make a decision until Morrera has made his.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
No, it's hinging.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
It's just as spice.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yes, quite, Yeah, it's gonna be exciting. I don't know when.
Where would you go right now, Steve a three year
deal at Pramak after seeing what fucking happened to Yamaha
this weekend? Or do you punt for a two year deal?
Lot honder?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Wow, I would Yamaha.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
It's funny because that's my instant thought as well, and
especially with the potential of the V four. But then
you look at what Honda doing right now, and they're
climb the I don't want to say the ascendancy that
they are on a great trajectory right now. So yeah,
it's a really tough one. It's hard to call the
idea of the end of a three year deal. You'll
see it is very appealing. He's already got connections to Yamaha,

(43:26):
so that's helpful.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
It's a three year that woul swing it for me
and the thought that yeah, like V.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Four and the chance though there's alongside top rack, like
if you beat top rack or okay, your stock has
gone through the roof. If you lose the top rack,
I don't know how good you look. I don't know,
because top rack is also going to be a class rookie.
But top rack is top rack. So yeah, maybe it's not.

(43:52):
Maybe it's a it's a win win from are Era
going just and joining Pramak.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think it is, I really do. My mom my
money would be on Yamaha.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah. Interesting, the V four has got to be a
tempting thing.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
It has, it has. It's a catch up and you
could be that one to suddenly hop on there the
rookie and bring Yamaha to life again. Amazing would that be?
That's a love story written by Shakespeare?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, imagine going in beating top rack and
get their ground floor for the new V four, for
the new eight to fifty rules. Yeah, maybe that is
the tempting one.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
That really is. There's a lot of accolades to be
had there.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, And that's assuming you can beat top rack, which
might not be quite as easy as we think. But
I still don't think top rack is going to be
what some people think he's going to be in a
GP next year. I think he could be on the
right bike at the right time. I don't think next
year is the right bike all the right time.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
No, no, I don't. I think I made my opinion
very clear quite a lot. You know, I think you
should have stayed in superbikes. A lot of people have
told me are wrong, But I really do think he'should
said and just become the multi time champion. He would
have been over there.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, well, I mean he's already going to maybe be
a three time champ by the end of this year,
so he's already done his multi time champion. And at
the end of the day, if he has two ship
years like GP, there's still going to be a lot
of people willing to put hands in their pockets to
get him onto a factory bike. In the super bike,
it's a.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Young lad someone have taken back, but it's just that
time away. Sometimes when people go back, they've changes. Yeah,
there's a risk, there's risks both ways. So I don't know.
I don't want to speculate what he's going to be
like yet, I just want to get next year here.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, and if that does happen, if Marira does go
to Yamaha, then I am putting good money on Jack
Miller replacing Alva. About Hista in the factory Decati squad
over in superbikes.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly that. If Dixon isn't there.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Well, Dixon looks like he's gonna be on the factory Honda.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, it does seem that way, but we'll see. No
announcements yet, No, but I think someone to say, yeah,
go on, put out the presser.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
We will see.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Let's move it on to Moto GP's top fives, then Steve.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yes, let's get there.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
So these were actually more exciting races than I expected.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah they were. They were good races, but it.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Certainly answered some questions for some riders and made everyone
else go, oh my god, what the fuck is happening
this year? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Literally?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
That so fifth place. Then in the sprint Steve was
Brad Binder and he is starting to look like his
old self again. I don't know if this new stability
control system had a hand in it, but Brad Binder
was able to back the bike into corners again. He
looked really, really solid and I was really happy to

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see him up at the pointy end. From his point
of view, I'm sure it's a shame he wasn't the
top KTM, but it was still super cool. Seperbinda just
able to ride at the front again.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly that. This is where we should roughly
be seeing him. It is a shame he wasn't KTM
top KTM. Sorry, but there's always someone better, unfortunately, but
it quite nice to see him performing better.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Exactly exactly that. And do you know what if the
guy that's beating you on the same machine as Pedro Costa,
I can't really gripe it. That's sort of okay, yeah,
fine whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Fourth place in this one then was Marco Berzeki. Bzeki
had to go through Q one then get pole position,
which was a pretty good showing. I quite like it
when you see a rider do that, go through Q
one and then be on PO. When the fuk happened
to your like something weird has gone on there?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, he was off doing something else on Friday. Saturday
came good. He had a fantastic Saturday really did.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah. Absolutely. He did get a rough start to the
sprint and dropped a few spots, but fourth place was
still a great result, and he looked fast in both races.
This Bez a pretty combination right now is super good
and it makes you wonder what a fully fit Martine
would be doing on this bike right now.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, I know, Bez looks good at the minute, bes
looks really Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I know the more I see Bez doing this, the
more I think, you know, I think I don't know
how much more Martin would actually be doing. I think
Bez would be giving a fit Martine on a run
for his money right now.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think they'd be
somewhere battling roughly. Wherever they are, they'd be roughly backing together. Yeah,
Bears looked super strong at the minute and he deserves it.
It looks good with that buy whatever they've done, They've
put a package together for him now which really works.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yes. Absolutely. Third place then was the aforementioned Pedro Acosta,
another podium since his stern talking to you by both
Akiaya and Pitt Bira. The Acosta we all expected to
see this year has really arrived.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, it really has. I think he's got a bit
of a spanky and has suddenly gone, oh, actually, you
know what, I need to do something here.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I think sometimes these are young I don't want to
say hot heads, but they do get rushes of blood
and say things and do things which are out of character,
and sometimes you can get complacent, and I think every
now and again they do need a little reality check
and I think he's had that and it has done
in the world of good.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah. I agree completely. And he looked good this weekend.
He was really having to muscle the bike around to
stick with the front eyes, did what he needed to
do and it was it was great to watch.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, absolutely that he performed mutifly.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah. Yeah. And there's going to be much more Petro
Costa up at the front before this.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Year, is sure. There's going to be a lot more
Acosta on the podium this year.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, quite speaking of someone a lot on the podium
this year. Second place was one Alex Marquees and that's
all I have to say on the matter, because mister
P two was P two once more.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, another silver trophy for the cabinet.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Quite happy days. Indeed, his his great season continues absolutely,
and then winning the race for just his twelfth sprint
of the year. Sprint win of the year was one
Mark marquez twelve sprint wins from thirteen million times asking
the guy is just on another level. It did look

(50:52):
for a short while that he might end up stuck
behind Alex. It took him a wild to pass, but
when he did pass, he just disappeared. We've said it
for he's got so much in hand over everyone else
right now that he can just afford to sit and
wait behind someone and not push it and just be like, Okay,
now I'll go.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, this guy is amazing frustrating, and I don't know
how to describe him. Just whenever you watch him, it
doesn't matter what's going on. He has just got so
much over everyone else at this point in time, it is.
It must be frustrated as healthy other riders, because you know,

(51:28):
if he's behind, he's coming past you at some point.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not even like the old gung
ho way he used to do it, where he'd really
slide up the inside of you with a stupid late
break in maneuver like he now just makes it look easy.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, he's just sliding past you, past you like anfe rut.
Butter it doesn't take. It doesn't look to us like
he's putting any effort into it. It's just like, oh,
here we go, we're ll and he doesn't. And then
he just disappears into the sunset, riding off, you know,
with his old trophy.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, quite unreal, unreal. So yeah, his twelfth sprint winner
of the season and thirteenth sprint podium, isn't it. He's
been on the podium in the sprint races every race.
In fact, the only one he didn't win, he came second.
So I look at that. Not a bad run, not
a bad run until mate, not a bad run at all.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
No, bless him.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
That. Then Steve does bring us on to the Grand Prix. Yes,
it was the top five in the Grand Prix. It
was a good race. I enjoyed it a lot. There
was again, there was action at the front. Actually it
didn't last long. For some reason, the commentators and everyone

(52:45):
had seemed to describe the battle between Mark and Berzeki
as if it lasted half the race, and it was
this really intense fight. But really the fight lasted a
lap at most. But there was a lot of tension
building into it, and there was a lot of riders
doing things he didn't really expect them to do in
this race.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
No, there were some interesting things happening, Yeah, especially later
in the rows.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yes, exactly, so the top five then Steve looked like
this fifth place was and the Bassi and Nini looking
good again. I assume his performance in Yeah, it's coming together.
I assumed his performance in Bruno was going to be
a one off, but he managed to pull another cracking
performance out in Austria, and the KTM seemed to be

(53:31):
coming on now too. I do wonder how different this
year would have looked if they hadn't been in such
dire straits at the start of the year. But something's
clicked with KTM. I don't know that. We know that
they were using the different construction real hard tire around
this circuit because of the forces of acceleration there, so
it's easier to slide this tire around, which is an

(53:52):
interesting point because they threw the sability control in for
this race and now everyone's going to have to work
it out with different tires at the next race. But whatever,
that's not.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
What their problem.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, exactly, but the k worked with this tire. They
looked good and then they have actual need. It looked rapid.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
He did look good. Any of Old was out this
weekend again, which is fantastic for him. He needs his
confidence boost and he needs the show KTM that he
still can do it. Yes, you know, because he's getting
soundly beat in most races. But he looked good but fast,
looked like he was comfortable as well, which was a

(54:29):
big thing. So yeah, all round, a really good race
and a really good weekend for any.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah quite fourth place in this one. Then Steve was
Pedro a Costa speaking of KTM's going well. Although they
didn't have the performance to get back on the podium
in the full length GP, Pedro was still able to
fight and was looking really good once again. And as
I said, this is going to be the performance we're

(54:58):
going to see from him for the rest of the season.
Maybe not next race, because who the fuck knows what's
going to happen in Hungary.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, when level playing field this weekend, so it's
going to be interesting. But yeah, I agree, I think
this is the kind of result we're going to see
from Pedro going forward. I hope it is. Yeah, after
all that sprouting off, he's got a lot of exactly. So, yeah,
a fantastic weekend for Pedro all around this guy. Yeah

(55:26):
we can walk away from this weekend with his headheld high.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Quite.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
But then was Marco Berzeki and again another great showing.
It's all coming up Besner Brillia. He was properly fighting
for it too. Like we said, he didn't want to
give up the lead to Mark, and for a while
it looked like he might not have to. There was
that period just maybe a third into the race where
Mark seemed to be following him pretty close, and then

(55:52):
Bez just went now fuck this and jus dropped the
lap times and he dropped Mark to nearly a second
and I was like, oh my god, let's just start
to pull away and win this like with ease. And
then Mark was like absolutely not mate, and so they
did have a bit of a scrap. The scrap lasted
maybe a lap. It was a couple of overtakes, but
it wasn't anything too dramatic. Mark could get past in

(56:13):
the end pretty cleanly. But yeah, it was a good
showing from Bazeki and he showly wanted it.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, he really did. This weekend. That battle didn't last
as long as well. Everyone made out, but it was good.
He built the anticipation for it. You know, Mark's like
you said, sat there comfortably, bears broke a gap, Everyone's like, oh,
you know, yeah, is he about to Mark? Mark? That
didn't happen. And then when they did have that little battle,

(56:39):
it was like that perfect little teaser in the middle,
and then the battle happened. It was really good. And
yeah again Marco and the Prillier this weekend just something else.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, a circuit a prettier, I have never had good
results around it, never been very good round. And let's
not forget like a Prillier traditionally will have a pretty
good season up until the flyaways and then it's kind
of break and then into the flyaways it all falls apart.
So this start to the second half of the season

(57:11):
is better than I expected to be, especially at a
circuit like this. I've got hopes with the fly aways
and a Brillier, but I also wouldn't be surprised if
we don't see you know, after we finish in Europe,
we don't see it a Brilliant anywhere near a top
five for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
No, but we can hope. We can live in hope.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
We can live in hope. Second place then Steve for
this was furmin Aldegaer. Where the fuck did this pace
come from? Furman was absolutely flying towards the end of
the race and it was only the mercurial talent of
mar Marquez that stopped him winning. For much of the
latter half, Furman was the fastest going on track and
it was only when he got past Bez and Mark

(57:51):
saw the name Swap on the board that or on
his pit board that Mark picked up the pace a
little bit and was able to keep Alderger at arm's length.
But yeah, al thegether looked phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
This guy this weekend was just well during this race
was just nuts. That has come out of nowhere, like
to say, he was quick and not just a little
bit quick. You know, he had to catch everyone. I
caught up Bears, overtook Bears, was making gains on Markers
until Marquers went nat. So do you, little boy, where
this came from? God only knows. We know he goes

(58:26):
well on used tires, but that was something else, and
there was I've seen snippets on social media where Markets
was like, well, I was learning from him, watching his data.
I was like, that's an accoloe that anyone wants on
their CV. Yeah. Quite that guy this weekend did his
stock the world of good.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Absolutely, especially when we know Mark was saying stuff like
he was so fast in the left handers? How was
he so fast in the left handers? You're like, but
this is my Marquez mon Markets doesn't look at anyone
else for a left hander, like what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
No, but this is the intelligence of Marcus. Well are
getting soundly outpaced. Look at what that person is doing
and learned from it. That's the mark of a true
truth Trabu. You can be the fastest guy out there,
but if you can adapt what you're doing to match
that fastest guy, then well that's something else. So yeah,
but all around this, this rose was incredible from.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Firmin Yeah, it was amazing, Just a cracking performance. And
you're right, his stock value has just gone through the roof.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yeah. Yeah, Grassini will be doing all they can to
hold on to him.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Honestly, mate, I can't see them getting rid of him
as long as he gets a currently machine exactly which
the factory or which the Catty team is in. He'll
be with Grassini, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, he will on a current year spec big, he'll
be fine.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah, especially if they're like, well you keep Frank, if
you stay here, He's like, okay, yeah, I'll stay here.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah. That combination is potent.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, quite and then winning this race then Steve. Speaking
of potent, Mark Marquez six on the spin, his longest
wind streak since twenty fourteen. There's a universe out there, mate,
in which he wins every remaining race.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yes, that's doable. More than he does.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Feel like it's doable. It feels unlikely, but it feels
far from impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yes, and that's a if he does manage to do it,
that's a huge chunk out of Agustini's all time wins
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Well, quite ninety seven wins I think now like that,
and he's only got a century before the end of
the year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's more than coming and that will
be a celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, quite Really, it was like I said, one hundred
and twenty one or something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I won't say one hundred and twenty seven, but I
think that sounds high. It's in one hundred and twenties
and that he's closing it down rapidly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, let's have a quick look one hundred and twenty two.
Oh well you were closer, you win, thank you, and
yeah Rossi one hundred and fifteen, which is probably the
one that Marquez is looking at a little more keenly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I imagine, yeah, that one because there was some cold
reception at the weekend between these two, which was fun
to see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I didn't see any of this at all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
It might be on the Beaties for coverage. Log in,
have a look. Okay, okay, there were some frost new moments.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
It was very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I was Italian, can't let it go. But yeah, it
was good to see. Quite as much as everyone is
talking about Marquez winning too much and to get boring,
it has its own implications on what you know, we think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
It's living through history, man, like just embrace it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
You know about the clock to when I was a
kid watching Rossi and all I ever was to do
was watching race. As long as he won, I was happy.
I didn't care who came second. You know, the fan
boys will always be a fan boy, So yeah, the
Marquez lovers out there as long as he's winning, we
don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah, quite and yeah, honestly, with every win that goes
by my Marquez fan boy, cup gets fuller and fuller.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah, it's only a matter of time now before Quinch
is the title.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah, well quite quit one hundred and forty two points
ahead of and second and one hundred and ninety seven
points ahead of Peco in third. Right now, he's actually
only ninety points away from Martin's title winning hauls from
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
That's nuts, absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
He could if he wins everything for the next three rounds,
he's got more points. And Martin won the title with
last year with what six rounds to spare or something?

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Mad absolutely mad. Guy's just phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah, are we looking at six hundred point season? I
think I get a six hundred point season from Marquees
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
That would be so we haven't got long to wait.
It's only sixteen hours until it kicks off in Hungry
obviously for the media is yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Hungry, super closed. I thought Hungry is a whole nother
week away, but it turns out no, Hungry is actually
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
That's what I thought as well, But we get some
more action this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I think we're on a run of like ten
races in fourteen weekends or something like. It's a really
busy end to the season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
That's bring up the calendar really quick and have a
little look. I don't want to be back in February.
I like the fact that if you go back on
the website now and click on calendar season started in Thailand,
it gives you the result.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh does it just on that calendar page?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So Alex Marquez, is there a lot
in the second and we keep scrolling down to we
hit hungry here we are, yeah, so hungry this weekend.
Then we have a little break fifth of September for Spain,
the following weekend sam Marino, then a week off twenty

(01:04:07):
sixth or September Japan, third of October, Indonesia, seventeenth of
October Australia, twenty fourth Malaysia, seventh and November Portugal, and
then fourteenth Melinitia.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Yeah, and that's the Fridays or the Thursday. Maybe, yeah,
I think I'll be Fridays.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, Friday action. So yeah, it's close. It's only what
three weekends off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Now, Yeah, so there's a lot of racing coming up,
which is exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
It's fantastic. Just spells the end of the year. But
we don't care when we get in years like this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
No, quite quite right, then, Steve, Let's take one more
quick break and then when we come back we will
continue talking Moto GP before making our predictions for Hungary,
recapping oppredictions from Austria on the Fantasy League.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
No, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
You want to do that, my friend. So guys there
with us for just one moment and we will be
right back with you. Thank you for bearing with us.

(01:05:23):
We are back, glad as our empt beers are this
still laugh I can there. So I'm number one and
Steve's got half a glass of orange juice, so you
know we're still doing okay for hydration.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Or we are very hydrated. We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So some more MOSTI GP talking point, Steve. The sprint
start here. This synchronized spins and slides from both pecabag
Naya and fermin Aldiger at the start of the sprint
race really got everyone talking. Both riders ended up almost sideways,
going much slower than all the bikes around them, and

(01:06:01):
a bunch of riders behind them had to take really
strong avoiding action to not cause up massive part of up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, there was a lot of talk about this on
the bit by the big C sport coverage guys, and
there was all sorts of theories being thrown in the mix,
from too much power, ride hid devices being too low
was one of them, grid cleaning, all sorts, no one.

(01:06:31):
I don't think there was ever anything said to exactly
what caused it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
No one really knows the point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It was just one of those things. I wouldn't be
surprised if it was just a combination of bad luck
and it's just the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Two of them doing it exactly the same time whilst
kind of next to each other on the grid and
looked weird, didn't they.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah, Firmin was just behind him on the grid, wasn't he?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Oh? Was he behind?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Was he one back? They were alongside each other, Okay, Yeah,
it was just behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
So I think that the main consensus from the BAT
Sport card is from what they were saying is sometimes
it's down to the track technician to dial in the
power a little bit and a fraction too much can
be just too much for the launch control of whatever's
on that track at that time. So okay, a combination
of all sorts could have been a bit greasy and

(01:07:21):
pure bad luck. Could have just hit a greasy spot
on the grid. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, that seemed to be kind of a consensus, wasn't it.
I mean, the Safety Commission had already asked riders not
to throw tear offs on the start finished straight trying
and avoid this, and there is now talk of things
happening to try and avoid in the future. So cleaning
of grid positions is another easy option to try and
solve the issue. But like you say, with the amount
of power these machines are trying to put down while

(01:07:45):
launching off the line, I'm not convinced this will do much.
And Firmin did seem to think his bad start was
due to dirt on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah, I think it's just a confination of all of it. Yeah,
it probably was dit on the track, it been anything.
I don't think we ever know. You could have hit
that one magic spot on that tire that has just
got something on it that if you just spin or
put too much power for it, it just spins for

(01:08:12):
some reason. Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get to
the course of it because there was guys on that
side of the track who didn't spin no exactly, So
I don't think we'll ever fully get to the bottom
of it. I'm just putting this one down to pure
bad luck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Well, Bagnia is not, for his part, didn't think it
was a dirty track or it was bad luck. And
although he's not allowed to openly criticize the tire, he
heavily implied that he thought he had a bad one.
He said he from the warm up lap his feeling
wasn't good, and that continued throughout the sprint from the
start onwards, and it was eventually the reason he pulled
out of the race after continuing to plummet down the order.

(01:08:48):
And you saw how much his bike was shaking it
back in the brakes and like he couldn't get the
brakes to work, like it was something was wrong with
that machine. I don't know what it was, but he
seems to imply in that way that riders do where
they say something like everything we did was completely right,
and yet the bike didn't work and we don't know why,

(01:09:10):
but it was feeling weird at the rear, but everything
we did was right. So he very much kind of
gave the implication that he had a bad tire.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
As long as it feels good at the rear, it's
all fine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That's my life's motto, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
There was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I did see a little statement, I don't know if
it's still out there, that the tire was assessed by
Michelin and it was okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Well fucking Michelin would say that. I'm not saying it
was bad tire actually, because I think the rider's bandy
around the bad tire. I think quite a lot when
there's something else going on exactly, So I'm not saying
that it was definitely a bad tire. I'm also not
saying it wasn't definitely a bad tire. But you know,
from both points of view here, Doukati are going to
want to blame someone that's not them. Michelin absolutely going

(01:09:55):
to want to blame someone that's not them. Both sides
are going to say nothing was wrong with what they did.
The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, and we'll
never know. No No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
On the sighting on the warm up lap, a seagull
flattered over took a ship and it was just you know,
there he spun up on it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
It was the tire exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
The seagull sat on the top of the bandstand like,
fuck you up, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Exactly? After reading all those greasy chips as well. So
it was a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Ten sh old seagulls where we were yesterday, took took
it down the sea. So I got some chips and
I had some chips. Honestly, mate, there were some sea
turfies out there that we could have roasted and had
for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
And there's a lot of eating on a seagull. I imagine.
I've never eaten a seagull, but I imagine there's a
lot of eating on a seagull.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
They're fully fed on chip's, mate, sausage and Germans, all
sorts of bad lot. There's one wandered up to us,
and I swear to God he and nasbo.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
His Lambert and butler hanging out of his mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Oh yeah, he had to smell of twenty Benson's tattoo,
eyebrow ring, the lot tooth missing out the front.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Nice, all sorts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah, he warded it up and he loved him a
chip and then he brought us mates.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I was like Jesus, Yeah, that sounds about right, and
then it turns out that he was actually bigger than Menzo's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Pretty He was pretty big. He was pretty big. I
didn't want messed with him. In the end, I loved
the chip. At some people, I was like, there go
your problem, did the job, did the job. Nestlie was
just sharing the problems. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I actually don't think there's many seagulls around the Austria
circuit though. I don't think seagulls like being in the mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I have no idea. I don't know if I assume
you get seagulls. They're not just the UK thing, are they?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
No? No, absolutely not. There's goals everywhere. Its seagull interestingly enough,
doesn't actually exist. It's my nerdy bird knowledge for you.
There's just different goal, none of them seagulls. But we
have like the goals we would call seagulls would be
lesser backed goals, greater black backed goals, herring goals, all
the big ones we just referred to seagulls. But there's

(01:12:07):
gonna be four or five species that we just called seagulls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, we encapsulate this genre of goal by calling them. Yeah, yeah,
stealing twat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
And there's some really lovely little seagulls kissy wakes I
think are little goals. There's some really like cute little
ones as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So yeah, there was some little ones hopping around Brody
get throwing them like Crispy bits. Jesus, I've got one
feeding the fat bastard chips, have got another one feeding
the other little bustards Crispy bits, and there's me love
and chips, and people are trying to get rhy of them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
At least the Crispy bits are free, so yeah, have
to favor those, so that's fine to feed them away.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah, yeah, they were fine. They did break up a
bit of fish and then called havoc with oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
God, you just have like forty sea gulls turn off
at ones.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Yeah, there's like something that have a Hitchcock movie.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
And speaking of horror, I don't know where I was
going with that horror movies, I think, but Martine's crashes
over the weekend is what I'm going for here, Johe
Martin had two pretty big crashes the weekend. The first
happened on Friday, and he was he met it with,
as he put it, relief, relief that he could crash

(01:13:20):
without getting injured because it was the first time he's
crashed on the Aprilia since Katar, So I think that
kind of I can imagine there is a feeling of
relief fell off a motorbike after ruining myself on one
that I was like, oh, do you know what it is? Okay,
you can just fall off and it be fine. Sometimes
I would never had that experience, but yes, because you're
a much more sensible rider than Mastive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
That's because I've ride old bikes that don't really go quick,
they just fall apart, bits drop off.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I spend more time, so don't stop, which is the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
That is a problem, especially when your front break falls off.
Just exit stage right while you're riding. What's that nose?
Oh he goes to break shoe?

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Fuck you still got to rear break questionable?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
It is question but I haven't. I could show you
actually having trainers at the time, and I was going
through wells and you're not. The seafronts light full of
crab pots and fishermen and seagulls, and I actually wore
the bottom out of one shoe trying to stop nice
and I approved this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
To there I'm not going anywhere. Steve's away, He's rolling
across the room. He's away, He's a way. You think
the thing is here, though, Steve's admitting that he's riding trainers,
which is not a sensible thing to be doing. So
don't take advice from Steve here. He likes his classic bikes.
He's pretty good with engines and fixing things, but trainers
on a motorcycle are not sensible.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Well, in my defense, it doesn't go that fast. I'm
looking at the ballpack.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
I can't really see. I'm afraid. Yeah, I can see
the bull patch nice on the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Right shoe because I was gonna brokes on the left.
I was doing all the best to stop one out
foot and then he was a right doctor's dangle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
In That's cool it everyone's like is in the doctor's
dangle of fifteen miles an hour, the weirdo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Just try to stop. Mate.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
So Martin, while wearing all the correct safety gear, experienced
crash h exactly. He experienced his second crash during Sunday's race,
and it looks relatively innocuous initially, but it took him
a long time to get up from. And then when
we saw the shots of it happening again, you kind
of realized he got tangled with the bike a little bit,

(01:15:36):
and that shot of him in the gravel where he
just wouldn't get up, I obviously assumed he was hurt again,
but thankfully that wasn't the case. He was only winded,
and he did visit the medical center for a quickly
check up because he said that when the airbag went off,
it just puts so much pressure around his torso and
his lands and stuff that he it really really hurt.
But he got over the winding pretty quickly, and he

(01:15:58):
said he was ready to go again, and that the
second and faster crash was He took that away as
proof that he'd fully recovered from those previous injuries, which
I suppose is good news.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
I think it is. Yeah, you know, you've got to
break that duck. Let you say, you've been there and
it is always in the back of your mind, and
especially for these guys who is part of their world
crashing when you have a big one like this, you've
got to get over that fear. And it's always gonna
be a point so and there's no other bit of
just conquer those veheers by doing it and Unfortunately when

(01:16:29):
you crashed and crash again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Immerchian therapy at its best.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yeah yeah, got fear of water, Wigham, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Winning, Yeah quite so. Next up, Steve Yamaha's woes. We
touched on this a little bit, but Yamaha experienced the
worst weekend of any motor GP manufacturer so far in
twenty twenty five. All four bikes qualified sixteenth or below,
and fabio Is eleventh place in the sprint was the

(01:16:58):
high point for the weekend. In the Grand Prix, they
were the last four bikes, with Corri taking that only
point for the weekend in fifteenth. But if Diggi's mike
hadn't spectacularly gone by by or Martine had stayed on
his machine, Yamaha would have come away from this weekend
with no points, even though all their bikes finished both races.
It seems the problem came down to fuel economy and

(01:17:20):
the old classic Yamaha line of lack of rig rip.
That harder construct Michelin tire seemed to be a big,
big problem. But this was just tragic from Yamaha.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
This was Yamaha of the last couple of years, creeping
back in again.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
It was the worst man, I think this is the
worst I've ever seen Yamaha anything they were doing for
the last few years, because Fabia could still score points,
going to say he.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Was always their savior, and to have him included in
this showed there was properly something wrong. It wasn't just
like a okay, Fabio can make this work and everyone
else is just a bit having a standard weekend. This
was across the board blanket not good. And I didn't

(01:18:10):
realize Hill after the race because they just weren't mentioned
and you're kind of figuring they're down there somewhere, And
it was only when they.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Crossed the lines at the bottom of the timing tower.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
That's what I did. Because they always have those big blocks,
like on beat Sport where they show you like the
camera or first place, there's shot on mark, second places.
Of course you don't get much further down than like thirteenth.
It was only when all that had gone I was like,
oh the fuck, yeah exactly, and you're looking, oh my god,
what has happened. Len Jarvis, I'm sure was in a

(01:18:40):
taxi long gone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I'm sure ly Jos wasn't even there. He's only a
consultant now. Isn't he so every race?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
You know what I mean? That, dude, it's just woeful mate,
the perves. I'm sure he was probably like on the phone,
was old it led?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
You know, But we're gonna have to do a fucking
public apology again, aren't we. God, that's what's going to
have to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah, where's the script? Yeah what did Linda say?

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
He did it exactly? It's got like Google doc saved
from last time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just hope that whatever
it was, it was a one off. It was just
this weekend and it's just a blip. It's going to
be hot, and let's just hope this was the low.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Yes, I think this is pint for the season. Yeah, exactly, quite.
It can't get much worse, I hope. Well, at least
then though they could argue, oh yeah, we would have
had race pace later. But yeah, this was not good
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
This was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes in hungry ah, not
holding much hope. Finally, then, Steve, the last thing I
want to touch on here is Maverick Vignalees and he
is now out for longer than expected. Yeah, MAV came
back from the fractured arm he received in Saxon Ring
after missing Bruno, and was hoping the summer break would

(01:20:10):
help him heal them recover. But after Friday he said
he wouldn't partake in the rest of the weekend, but
then he did, and then after a short attempting Q
one on Saturday, he finally threw in the towel.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I think sometimes some of those pain meds
and Russia blood can always help on a Friday. Yeah,
and obviously it hurt, and God gives the guy the
respect for trying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
You know some guys, well, he only managed to string
together what five or six laps at most.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
In me, Yeah, he didn't do a lot. He gave
it a whirl and then pulled out, which is definitely
the right thing to do, self preservation over risking further injury.
You look at Mark, look at Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yeah, quite, that's definitely the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
I think he's done the right thing. Yes, absolutely replaced
this weekend by pol.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Yes, Paulus Pargo is coming in for him this weekend,
so he's retargeting a return for Catalonia. He doesn't sound
overly optimistic about being anywhere bit by then, but he
said he might be able to ride, like the arm
will be strong enough by then. So we're just going
to have to wait and see. And this is such
a shame for Math who has been on like a
tear this year on the Take three KTM and doing

(01:21:19):
much better than I think any of us expected them
to be. So these setbacks are really not great. But
we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
We certainly will. It's a shame, but health comes over job.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yes, exactly exactly that. I think the man's made enough
money in his career. He's probably not too stressed about it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
No, No, only thirty million this year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Yeah, shame, Oh god, how can I I'm sorry, guys,
it's just brand new Ford focuses this year for Christmas
for everyone. Can't can't be afford and rang drovers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
No no g wagons this year, people, And that, then, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Does bring us to the end of the kind of
the news and the motive GP chat there. So let's
recap our predictions from the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Let's go for it, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
So if anyone that doesn't know anyone new to the
show and you've got this far, congratulation that. Steve and
I have our own little prediction league going on where
we predict the top three finishes in both the sprint
and the Grand Prix, and then we give ourselves points
for if we get it right. We get three points
for in the correct position exactly the brag and Rights league,

(01:22:40):
and we get one point for a rider in the
incorrect position on the podium. So this sprint first, Steve,
the actual result was a Mark Marquez win and Alex
Marquez second and a Pedro Acsta third. I predicted a
clean sweep. I predicted Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez
second and a Pedro Acosta third for nine points. New

(01:23:00):
predictle Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez second and a
Mark Overzeki third. That gives you six points. There, three
for Mark, three for Alex, zero for Beza. In the
Grand Prix, the actual result was a Mark Marquez win,
a Fermin Aldigare second, and a Marco Berzeki third. I
predicted a Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez second and

(01:23:24):
a Peco Bagnaia third. I just get three points for
Mark in the correct position. There, Steve, you made exactly
the same predictions. Steve also scort the three points there,
so that brings my total up to twelve for the weekend.
Your totals up to nine, bringing my overall total up
from ninety six to one hundred and eight, and your
overall total up from one hundred and five to one

(01:23:45):
hundred and fourteen. I am closing the gap, Steve, just
six points in it now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Oh I'm enjoying it. And it's yeah, three points to
three points, mate, it's coming along.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
It's coming along in indeed, this next one, I tell
you what. Actually we didn't touch on Peco apart from
his bad start and then pulling out of the sprint,
but he had a shocking Grand Prix as well. He
looked like he was going to do some good things
in the Grand Prix. For a while it looked like third,
and then it was like, oh no, that's fourth, Oh no,
that's fit, Oh ship, that's eighth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Yeah. He just kept tumbling, yeah, mate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Beating up man. Every time someone went past him, he
was just shooting off the track. He was getting out
of the way. He just got absolutely beaten up. It
was a really bad weekend. I think probably his worst
weekend of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
I think you're right. I really do. This guy's season
mate is just something else. I really do feel for
the guy. I really do. But what you're going to
do except what you're going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Yeah, except trying to be Mark Marquez. Yeah, easier said
than done. Been trying to be Mark Marquez for his
entire life. Yes, I yeah, getting not fair, that's a
fair point, getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I'm just trying to into my fantasy league because it
always takes a load and it is just being a dick.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Okay, Well, before we get to that, Steve, we do
need to make our predictions for Hungry and this is
a really hard one because we've got literally nothing to
go on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
No, this one is going to be whatever you feel
like kind of weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it's going to be. I'm
also trying to log into the fantasy league while we
do this, and it's slowing me down a little here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It's been a bit of a dick tonight. It does
not want to come along.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
No. Well, I'll tell you my sprint prediction anyway, Steve,
for the Hungry Race, and then you can give me
your Sprint and Grand Prix and I will finish with
my Grand Prix prediction that for the sprint, I am predicting,
probably quite predictably, and Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez
second and a Marco Berzeki third.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
O nice, I like that. Obviously it's Mark and Alex
first and second for me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
And then it's always just written that down for you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Don't do it, yeah, everywhere, it's just naturally assume it's
a new track. So let's put some faith in a
Costa the third.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
You're going Mark, Alex Pedro okay, and then your Grand
Prix prediction Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Mark and Alex obviously wilds and then I don't know
the guy who's having a torrid season. Let's put Peco third.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Okay, Mine is quite similar. I'm going with a Mark
Marquez win, but I'm going Marco Berzeki second, No, and
Peco third?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Oh no, Alex he will.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Yeah, well he's the master of sprints this year, where
he's not. He's the right hand man of sprints this year.
But his Grand Prix performances have been dropping off over
the last year rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
So yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
So yes, that's that's the predictions in place. That's for me, sprint, Mark,
Alex Bes Grand Prix Mark bears Peco. You're going for
the Sprint, Mark Alex Pedro, and for the Grand Prix,
Mark Alex Peco. Yes, So then Steve, let's quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Recap about the Fantasy League.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I do want to talk about the Fantasy League, Steve,
because I think it's only fair that we talk about
all the people in the top ten, because they really.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Want to do the top five just to save time.
This could be a long show, so people.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Thankfully, Steve, we've torn through the show, so we've got
time to acknowledge everyone in the top ten. But before
we do that, let's just scroll down to twenty fifth place,
where you are sitting at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Just to give it some context, are't you. Yes, that's
exactly the way down there in twenty fifth on two thousand,
one hundred and ninety one point five points.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
But you had a frustrating me good squad for that
to have happened. Well, I had of Mark Alex Fermin
and Mark Oberzeki, so a good squad, a lot of
good points.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
I did get a good points all. If I'd had
Gattie Lenovo as my team, it would have been even better.
But I can't afford them without swapping one of those
guys and not willing to. But you had a tactical boost.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I did, indeed, and it showed what how strong a
boost is right now because I need to jump up
into the top ten from around where you were from
that kind.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Of mid twenty second or twenty third.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah, so it was a big jump. So the boosts
are still very powerful. So the top ten then, Steve
looks like this, and speaking of powerful boosts. In tenth
place is real Jurassic Racing from Great Britain. But they've
still got two boosts left. So there's a lot to
play for here for real Jurassic racing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Yeah, yes, and a good team. I would just perhaps
drop Fabio Corso, but there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Yeah, but then you get Lenovo d Catty instead. Although
actually Lenovo Dacatti only outscored Chrissini by two or three points.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
It wasn't much, it was close, it was close. It
was the boost, well played boost this weekend that did
it good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Ninth place then is a race box from Canada and
from Great Britain is cased Stoner twenty three In eighth.
In seventh is what's that Tim's Titans? Can that be me.
I'd appreciate that as a drum roll, Steve. And that's it.

(01:29:48):
I finally got myself into the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I'm never going to hear the end of it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
No, you are not. I'm feeling quite smoke about that
one right now. So have no boosts left, so it's
probably just a slippery slope back down to twentieth from here,
but we'll keep going. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
We will see the thirteenth. It's got two roots left. Sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are going to
overtake me before the end of the year's out. So
I'm going to take this. Seventh place is my high
point for the season, and I'm going to retire in
the top ten. That's fair enough, and we'll never talk
about the Fantasy League again. Sixth place then from Great
Britain is G five OD and from the USA in

(01:30:33):
fifth is Team Punkass Racing. Jason J from Australia is
in fourth, and then we hit the top three. Third
place with two thousand, three hundred and fourteen point five
points is Joystick Racer. Joyceck Racer also has a boost left,

(01:30:54):
so there's a lot to play for for Joystick Racer
there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Yes, that could be uh.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Interesting, quite and just one point five points ahead of
them right now with two three hundred and sixteen points
from Great Britain is Crumpers and then still leaving the
way as they have been for much of the season
from Great Britain.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Long time it does.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Indeed with two thousand, three hundred and eighty two points
is kebab Spider. No boost left though, Kebb Spider. So
keep your eyes on Joystick Racer and on real Jurassic racing,
because there's going to be some people getting close to
your chuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Very yeah, they are going to be snappery coattails they.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Are, indeed, And that then Steve does bring us to
the end of this show. Un ass there is anything
else you want to add.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Not really, Bully, No to still sit back and wait
for Hungry to unfold. You know, it would be too
long before we start seeing bikes on track and stuff
coming out. And yeah, enjoy a new track.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Enjoy track indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Yeah, it's always a pleasure to go to a new track.
I've got a free weekend, so you know what I'll
be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
I can assume watching Motor GP.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
There's gonna be a lot of GP watching this weekend. Yeah,
there's no football for either Singer or the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
So you can park yourself in front of the screen
and ask you for the weekend. Then that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
I might go full hill Billy and get myself a
cooler of beers down. Sorry, but you know, yeah, might
shout some profanities at the telly every now and again.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
That'll do the job.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's a new track. Everyone's excited.
It's gonna be a good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Yeah, absolutely it is. And we've managed to end this
show much quicker than I expected to see. With the
length of show notes, I was fearing this was going
to be a three hour podcast, but we've managed to
keep the tangents to a minimum. We've kept there. We've
skipped some notes as we've gone, but we've got to
the end in decent time, so we're all there. So guys,
thank you all very much for listening. If you have

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