September 4, 2025 • 46 mins
Tim and Steve were lucky enough to jump on a call with a regular BSB, WSBK and MotoGP marshal and here it is.
Mark is marshalling at every BSB event this year and has also been to both Silverstone and Assen in marshal for MotoGP. The insight he gives into this side of motorcycle racing is a fascinating glimpse into the people that we only ever see brief snippets of on the TV screen and almost never hear from!
Mark was kind enough to share some articles published by a fellow marshal after the tragic events of the opening round of BSB.
When Tragedy Strikes – Written in the imediate aftermath of the race weekend.
Becasue It's What We Do – Written after the following round.
These articles are well worth a read and deliver a fascinating view into the mind of the author, who marhsalled both of the races mentioned.
And if you thought marshalling was risk free, check out this video of a crashed motorcycle coming very close to hitting the marshals! Warning: crash video but everyone (rider and marshals) was fine.
If you want to try your hand at marshalling, visit the Race Safe website, where you can get more information and sign up.
And finally, enjoy this chat. It was a really fun episode to record. Huge thanks to Mark for donating even more of his time to motorcycle racing and agreeing to talk to us!
Thumbnail Photo Credit: Bonnie Lane Photography
Mark is marshalling at every BSB event this year and has also been to both Silverstone and Assen in marshal for MotoGP. The insight he gives into this side of motorcycle racing is a fascinating glimpse into the people that we only ever see brief snippets of on the TV screen and almost never hear from!
Mark was kind enough to share some articles published by a fellow marshal after the tragic events of the opening round of BSB.
When Tragedy Strikes – Written in the imediate aftermath of the race weekend.
Becasue It's What We Do – Written after the following round.
These articles are well worth a read and deliver a fascinating view into the mind of the author, who marhsalled both of the races mentioned.
And if you thought marshalling was risk free, check out this video of a crashed motorcycle coming very close to hitting the marshals! Warning: crash video but everyone (rider and marshals) was fine.
If you want to try your hand at marshalling, visit the Race Safe website, where you can get more information and sign up.
And finally, enjoy this chat. It was a really fun episode to record. Huge thanks to Mark for donating even more of his time to motorcycle racing and agreeing to talk to us!
Thumbnail Photo Credit: Bonnie Lane Photography
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Steve my good man, How the Devil are you?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm good, buddy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm very good, my friend, I'm very good. I'm very
excited Steve because for the first time ever, I get
to do the traditional introduction to the show for someone
that isn't you. So Mark my good man, how the
Devil are you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Tie?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thank you yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Excellent?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, very good up here mate, as we were just
chatting offline, it's nice to have some sunshine for once
in Scotland. It's a retreat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You're out the clouds now, buddy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Exactly exactly. So I've been teasing this show, well, this
chat with you Mark, for the last couple of weeks
on the podcast. So for anyone that hasn't been listening
and is listening to this one, we've got here with us.
Mark is a marshal at BSB events, World super Bike
events as well, yeah yeah, and and and motor GP events.
(01:10):
So without people like Mark, this sport that we all
love would be impossible. So Mark has graciously agreed to
come on today to chat about his experience as a marshal.
So take it away, Mark, Like you've you've across a
bunch of different series there. So that's as I say,
BSB World, Superpike, Motor GP. Is there anything else as well?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So yeah, pretty much emylevel from Cup level through TOMTOGV
in the UK. It's all various differences between different tastes
different but so yeah, mainta mainly BSB so it might
be a little bit more related answers all times differences
(01:56):
will go.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So yeah, so I just say where do you want
to start with?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I guess like, so you said you mainly do BSB,
then so are you doing one circuit a bunch of
the time? Are you traveling around to do various circuits
in the UK?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So this season? Planning every round this year? Yeah, fairly ready, Yeah,
do most of them. So yeah, it'll arrive. For me,
it's arrived for Friday night. I've worked Fridays and fortune
apart Friday very often, so yeah, my pictures sort of
(02:39):
Friday night before we'll get set up. Yeah we've got
Cary and coach with us, nice and yeah, so yeah
Friday set up and then signing on is Saturday morning.
Usually for me it was a Thursday night and Friday
morning when if you're doing Friday okay, yeah, so sort
(03:03):
of speaking my personal one. And so yeah, we get
there every time really arrived, get that up sign in
the morning, which is usually twin seven and a half
seven roughly.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay start, I was going to say weekend exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, two things actually earlier. Two and Worlds is actually
earlier starts okay, yeah, yeah, a lot earlier for that one.
So yeah, from there we go to you get so yeah,
it's a general sort of thing. You get to get
a breakfast ticket or even in middal you get one
(03:46):
meal day. Basically you're doing so well, my day looks
like the breakfast at that point. Yeah, they have Fri
up in the morning, so he's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Exactly, got year through for a busy die.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Exactly, Yeah, or from their road out both sort of
wherever that may be a minute. It's fairly sort of
know where you're going in advance, you know what you're
going to do. Now change that's changed. Before that, it
was very much turned up Saturday morning to find out
(04:21):
where you were going. Basically just know you had to
suit pay for in front of you. Yeah, you go out,
did those five sens, all that sort of stuff, getting
stretches or that sort stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Set up from there.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We then and do sort of practice with structure, usually
have a helmet there as well to practice take helmets off.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, it's interesting, So that's that's part of your job
as well. Then if someone needs it to take the helmet, it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Can be Yeah, I mean it's not a regular thing.
So we do it under medical supervision. Okay, yeah, sort of,
So MOTORCP it's very much don't do it, so yeah,
sort of. Again, IF's unconscious on the floor, it's sort
of what's the eagles. Let them medicals get to work
(05:19):
is basically the general rules. Okay, so yeah, it being
led by we have a medical on post with us.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Each a medic and there's a medic in every position
is there with you as well?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, that's pretty much apparent paramedic doctor. They try and
get things mainly try and get paramedics out actually taxile
on each post because yeah, it's point down, run the
out sort of day job.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, exactly, trauma.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, so we're very much led by them in what
we do medical wise. But yeah, we're sort of getting
sort of idea is if we can do your helmet
removals and stuff, then they can get to work on
the patient basically at that point.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, so yeah, fair enough. It's a bit of a
mission though, isn't it, Like, because I mean, a good
helmet is on pretty tight, but you see them in
the races getting their helmets on and they are super tight,
Like it's got to be a bit of a mission
to get that off for someone else.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, it's a bit of technique to it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But I mean, yeah, I'm not actually very many.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's a very sort of rare scene, but yeah, yeah,
something is it's funny from you to hate. So it
was well known that that was part of our roles.
I thought it was something chair basically and high. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Absolutely, that's fascinating because I assumed that wouldn't be part
of your role at all. I kind of like the
doctor the paramedic would be doing that, and like your
job was just to I don't know if it got
to that point, you know, hold up the doctor board
or putting the blankets around or whatever it is, or
just carrying people off. I didn't realize that was part
of the role.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So yeah, sort of mids and I don't know how
it works part and aison is very different and they
have medical team on site, so there's is very separate.
It's Marshall many pretty more your picture in but yeah,
the UK based it's much more. That's sort of way
(07:35):
inclined that it's pretty a bit more sets younger wise,
some of the that sides.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
So yeah, okay, and yeah, so yeah from then on,
I mean, yeah, trying not to bore it too much,
to drag it step sort of.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Go through the day.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah that you expect start excuse you about half eight,
so come around for head count, make sure everyone's where
they want your flags away they want them to be,
and okay, what about sort of stuff and then yeah,
crackaut starts nine o'clock and it all becomes live. And
(08:19):
then what comes around basically yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Okay, and that's the exciting that I imagine when you
hear the engine start and you're like, okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, it's it's always a bit of a drenal, the
rush all of us, that's what we're spoking sky.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Still get a better rush, So.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's fantastic. At least it still gives you that bus.
It's not like it's like, ah, this is just what
we do at the weekends. Now, it's still an exciting
thing to be doing exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, yeah, I mean it's tenth season and still yeah,
it's still don't happens every Yeah, tempt the bet you,
I just haven't bet you. Yeah, this is was this year. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Okay, and you've done a Motor GP round every year
at least one every year for the last eleven years.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, so okay, yeah, apart from the sales team one
that was rained off who stood down for that one.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, we don't talk about twenty eighteen. We just like
we let we let that just disappear off.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
But yeah, some that's good fun.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Oh no, but sort of mini family is right away
from there's a lot of us that do travel around
with it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That so it becomes a good sort of solution. Sorry
as well, it's not.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, there's lots of winding up in order going on.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
As you do when you just get a group of
like minded people together, like it just becomes exactly the
party atmosphere I imagine.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, the nice Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You take the caravan with you just all around the
UK if you're good doing like obviously you're assen did
you take the caravan then as well?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So I'll do it with that. Also doing that will
travel together basically. Yeah, it's see, I take that around
every other it's basically and home from home in the
way holidays A Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's excellent. It's probably getting more used to most people's caravans,
to be fair. So you're putting it through places.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So you said that you don't always do the Friday
or you don't do the Fridays because you work it,
So isn't that quite normal for people just to come
in and do like a Saturday Sunday or even to
do just one day.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, so for like BFP events upwards. Yeah, it's a
world motor up. It's a minimum to two days, right,
it's I mean third ones will it sack? Yeah, one
day basically take what what they can get in away
because they're struggling massive the issue. I know that. So yeah,
(11:15):
there's probably take for seventy thirty sort of the two
days we go the main two days and.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Just work commitments.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It was probably, but yeah, Friday is very much more
with your retired ones or people that live loking. I've
got a holiday and so yeah, yeah, it's all so, yeah,
it's not quite a split in terms of numbers that
I have been increased on Saturday each time.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Is there a minimum number of like marshals that have
got to be so you just go into a BSB weekend?
Is there a minimum number for each day.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
There will be a minimum I couldn't tell you what
is my head even cup present there is still around
which in the chap with the broader game messaging like
they're still very much a minimum number for an event run. Yeah,
so yeah, basically means for gold lines again some some
(12:17):
venture have a lot more and your ballet even number
so okay, it does vary.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Okay, and I guess does it depend on the size
of the circuit, but just what that minimum number would
be theoretically, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I sort of guess this minimum number per post
what they want for the safety safety grounds of it all.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Really, Yeah, of course that's the way it should be, absolutely,
and sadly, as we have seen in recent years, not
always the way it is unfortunately, but we won't try
and get yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so's it's absolutely
(13:02):
worth mentioning. Absolutely, And so you're at the do you
get you get given your position, you know where you're
going to be, you know which post you're going to
be at you're staying at that post all weekend, or
you moved about between during the day or between days.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So you stay at that one post, but you rotate
around the post.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, there's a village at touched
on this weekend with Scott four points three points, wasn't
it in the end? Well, but it ends it's like
you rotate around the three Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Interesting, Okay, so there's positions of different positions you're waiting at
and that's where you're based, but that one post will
incorporate all of those. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, so again very circuit circuit. Yeah, yeah, some have
a lot more than brands. Bands to six paces, six
places on our post, we will rotate around okay, wow, okay,
so yeah, it's you get a different view and a
different just breaks a little bit as well for everyone
(14:02):
in one place and yeah, hidden boring, but it's sort
of yeah, if she's good all day, just watching spits
off a little bit mentally, it's very much.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I imagine as well, if it's days, whether the weather's
horrendous or really nice. Actually, if it's like you kind
of want to be moving around otherwise it's going to
be a bit of a So when you're in the
different positions then around the post, have you got a
different role, a different job role while you're there or
is it just like an easier access to different points
(14:40):
depending on.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Grave and yeah, so there you are different different roles
within that position. So so for me just the marshal,
so you call a pickup point, which is where you're
basically on the stand way. If something happens, you got
to deal with it and you've got the flat bo.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And the case.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You might have a point where if you've got enough
numbers sort of stand by pickup team, which is the
mainly deal with any order incidents. If you've got stay
down or multiple bugs down, then they sort of go
to back up the other team. Really okay, so yeah,
it's sort of it's not that varied, but a little
(15:23):
bit of variation in front of the day.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Nice, I guess like mixed up a little bit. You're
not just like you say, in one spot looking at
one position, do one job. They do like vary you about.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, that's I mean again sort of the different positions
within it. You've got people with specialist pit lane mm hmm.
Sort of recovery guys, taxi by guys. Yeah, there's numerous
roles people. Can people do right.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's interesting. Can you progress through these different roles as well?
Is it like a leader system where as with experience
you can go up the ladder or is it just whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You Yeah, a little bit. It's there's progressions there.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And but yeah, you look at it, maybe three taxi
boatstre recovery bands Richard. And what people mainly want is
there one met riders get all the bikes, yeah, getting
into those.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned taxi bikes there. I always
assume when we see those on the screen that that's
just like a team member that's just randomly turned off
at the right place or the right time, or just
a random standard by who's just there. He's like, oh yeah,
hop on, I'll take you back.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah. No, GP votes in particular, a lot of times
they have for the scooters and someone happens to be in
the right place at the right time for the same
chle of money and fat people watching some Yeah, and
then sorry, no, I.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Was just I was going to start talking about flags
briefly actually as well, because there's so many flags that
is it's hard to wrap your head around sometimes as
you're watching, like what the fuck does that one mean? Again,
that's something all marshals are able to weigh flags? Or
is it specifically people who have like trained and past
a test like I have absolute no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, so basically do it's one training day they see
who we all do when you first join, and then
it's very much till we.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Put with somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
If you started NEWBI again, you're put with somebody with
experience that is basically not in charge of you. But
it's sort of like monitor what you're keeping eye and
you make sure you get flags right. So we're all
trained to do it. Like again going to GP and
(17:57):
you tend getting confused with flags of their flags have
different meanings to what we're used to. That's the white
flag for the writer change in GPS general rule is
a medical flag med car comes out or slowly even
vehicle on track. So so yeah, it's that one in particular.
(18:23):
It's at that's a very different meaning between the two
majorities all cross over pot it's just different regulations on
what you do with them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, it's basically.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Do you just have the power to throw the flag
when you have when you've decided it's enough or you're
waiting on a call from from elsewhere to say.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
So basically, any flag red or safety car wise is
our discretion or uh, I'm gonna say IoT, incident officer,
which is post chief, corner, chief personal, whever you'll call it.
There come over the radio. So in the five point
(19:11):
at least, when you're at a radio interesting there, I
get the if it's raining, different trains that hang like that,
there call it and we put the flag out. But
so yeah, red flag and taking our flag in particularly
purely raise control. Other than that, it's very much react
(19:33):
to what you see sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I guess that keeps
it able to react faster. That way, you're not waiting
on calls from elsewhere, and you know, even a few
seconds here or there can make a big difference. So
if you can see something, it's better just to be
able to throw the yellow or I guess if they
start to come down, to throw that limited edition flag
so no one gets caught out by it. Yeah, it's nice, excellent,
(19:58):
So that keeps you really busy throughout the track action time.
What happens when there is no track action. What are
you guys doing?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Then then it depends where you are what perhaps you are.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
So if you're somewhere, you can have a wonder of
basically downtime if you want to have wonder off to
get somewhere there, did it work? Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Access to that. If you're you can weel free to
do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Basically a lot of time, it's just sit down and
have your lunch or just sit into out basically. Yeah,
if you're somewhere that you can go off the family,
go off stores, whatever you want to do. Yeah, you
read to do what you want to do basically just
back in time.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You need to be ready for it's a bit of
a lunch break.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Lunch break, yeah, and what they do and you're just
told what like track action is coming back at you know,
I don't know one thirty, so be back here by
one twenty and then we could.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Go yeah, which exactly squeezy about five times?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Or would you start from back? Everyone's in position?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Good basically okay, excellent, and then there is they were
just like a quick roll call like glass around on
the radios. Is everyone in position? So we can get
this session live.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, No, it's just.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Basically, yeah, I think it's just assumed everyone's bad lesson. Yeah, okay,
I mean it's martial wife, you're not Asian, Amic's wonder
time minds like we've lost that around but point okay,
which that does then hold it up a little bit.
That's not that's actually more important than what we are
(21:47):
at that point. Yeah, it's but yeah, it's a very
rare occurrence that one as well.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
We will say, yeah, I can imagine it's not being
at your job and being like, well I'm going to
sky of an extra five and it's in Tesco's or
I'm gonna school. You're like, I ain't got that lesson,
Like people are here because here, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So yeah, it's you're there as a hobby and we're
not paid for it. So you're there because you want
to be there, rather than it's been at work where
you just go.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Exactly. So you just mentioned that you're not paid for
it at all. So this is all voluntary. You get
what compensated one meal a day. Is there any other
like is you're camping, are you in the general keeping
area or are you in a specific area.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So we've got our own camps. So we get our
own camps, our area. It's a free camping obviously, we
get free access and one free desks ticket for each
event we're doing. Okay, so yeah, sort of wives, partners,
anyone you up bring along really Yeah, it's sort of
(22:55):
a little bonus for doing that as well. Yeah, so
a generator is provided for us all So does electric
go round? It's a bit can be limited, can be
very lucky. Yes, So, yeah, there's a lot if you
(23:16):
add not being paid whatever. So I've to add up
what we get every weekends quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Really, admission fee, camping fee, it all starts to add up.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah again, especially GPS get that.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Quite We've we've ranted about the price of Silverston quite
a few times over the years. Quite And is that
just so your the other past you get for someone else?
And actually I guess your pass is that just like
a general admission pass that you get to wander around
with or have you as a marshall got access to
(23:58):
a few more areas than fre show.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So again, poaching bsb wiys is very much open GP wise,
it's in the air.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We's got a little past. We have a lanyard that
I might have its fine somewhere here. Yeah, very much.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That sort of access to all circuits and it's all
as areas and I guess you can walk through. You
get through garriages as hot cut, look through your garage,
great down about or whatever. The motive GP one is
a little bit more regimented, like you get so you
have to wear bib like you've seen them TV where
(24:41):
you've got the bibs on. Yeah, so that gives you
access to all areas during the event, but it's limited. Yeah,
a few years ago, Yes, we're getting paddock with them basically, well,
were a little bit from that in the evening you
could go enough water around a paddock, which it's use
your lockdown to the general public.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, Yeah, it was quite.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Good and negotiating it as an officials that get us
in there for a couple of hours on a Friday
night basically go out and gat you time.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay wow, So still that's just an extra thing that
you're seeing. The average Joe isn't able to the track action.
You're actually sometimes interacting with people and you're getting this
kind of access to areas even in your downtime. Occasionally
that average Stow isn't get at all.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, it's nice perks, nice little perks.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's quite a lot to it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Awesome, fantastic. And then what's so what happens at kind
of the end of a day of the races. Are
you just hanging out in the campsite, You're going out
to the pub, like you you're hanging out and making
friends with everyone, Like, what was it looked like for you?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah? So again me personally got off and girl go back,
go back to the bars. Groups, we'll go back to
the bar together pretty much, meet up at the bar,
maybe ten tens, sit down with your drinks. Then just
so and Dennis either yeah, we'll end up in a
(26:12):
caravante room or something or yeah, yeah, very's meeting to meeting.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Sometimes she's just get.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Sleep.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, sometimes from or like there's always people about this sort.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
For what bet we're putting it a bit being back
at school where you make you funded by your mates
and people you're yeah or or like minded people. It's
like you've always have someone doing something of what I
will say.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Fair enough sounds good, that's fantastic, and he gets your
track walks as well. You just say that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, so Stone again got anaze. It's not so there
is very much no. No, you go on to chat.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Every other UK circuit pretty much seeing the racing is
done opens up and you can wander around. Yeah, everyone around,
look at where they wonder where I grab? Can I
wonder around Chat where it's great south from the day
and see what's going on Chat.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's very cool.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's fantastic mate, Well fucking great way to spend a weekend.
Just amazing experience into it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now I'm like this sounds good.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And on that note, actually, if the people are interested
in getting into it, like how does that? How how
does that work? How do you get into.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
There's various ways.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean I've got some more story. I got into
it by accident, really, okay, I mean you said I
started out with Mars, So I don't know if it
works for most other circuits, but at the time a
lot of places have sort of taste there.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Had that were signed up for it in terms of.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Doings be to matter GP that all comes under. They're
called race Safe the organization. Okay, so if anyone's interesting
link into the great chart or it's racett, you.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Can send me the link as well. Then I'll pop
that into the show notes for this episode.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, and again it's so it needs streamline really that
I was turned up very soon, okay, because it's limited,
very limited time wise for that. But again I've said
Club Marcelin crowing out in a minute, if you wanted
to have a day really see what it's like. Again,
(28:49):
it's all different clubs you can get in touch with.
Look on the websites. Nine times ten there'd be something
there that they'll be doing the training at some events.
But yeah, so okay, it's a sort of start up point.
It's not about Yeah, that's a good way to go
about it as well.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, and do you need to say if you're say
you're just really keen to do much a GP marshaling,
do you need to have done a club or BSB
or something to get there or is there training available
if you just want to dive into my GP. And
as an extension of that, is it like if you've
not got a training, even if it's feasible, they're going
to be like, no, now, we want you to have
experience elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
The official answer is you have to so many events
before and you can't just do GP.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
The reality is where it was earlier in the air. Yeah,
I've said sales not that popular among us.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
A lot of people actually to get numbers.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So yeah, sort of a lot of experience goes I
don't money gay basically it's sillstone, it's I don't know.
I won't go a major rout about it, but yeah,
it's definitely divide between sort of marshals do it and
(30:10):
enjoy it and those that just go are saying watch
on TV until that AGP that way. Okay, yeah, but
but yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Where we're going.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, so World's major GP dificial answers. Yes, you have
to do some b before. So when you when you
start out given you get a train car they call it,
which is basically good twelve days of which yeah eight
I think eight have to be safely days to world
quite no GP and four can be anything else or
(30:48):
you can do as well through their events sort of thing. Okay, yeah,
that's not working.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So and as well, like you so you've done your event,
you've done your twelve like you're at your now you
can you can do major you can do world two
bikes only the big ones. Do you have to do
a certain number per year as well? Or can you
just to drop in, do just one if you wanted,
and then that's you for the year.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, honestly, I believe that is the case, that it's
just whatever you can make. I don't think as a
minimum number. I think it's if you don't attend for
three years, I think it's well, your membership gets provokes
a little bit. I don't know, okay really on that one. Yeah,
I think if you're inactive for a period of time,
(31:34):
I watch the three years, but I could be wrong. Yeah. Bet.
Other than that, it's whatever you can do for that
the year. Okay, Yeah, there's no you met one way
or the other. If you want to go get the
bug and join us of us carving around following circus,
then you can just do one local event like that's
(31:56):
fine as well. Yeah, you're welcome basically.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That's great. So you personally, then you've done obviously you've
you've said already following BSP this year, So you've done
all the major UK circuits, and I assume you've done
super Bikes and make GP in the UK as well,
so Donnington and Silverstone okay, and then outside of that,
what other circuits have you been to outside of the UK?
And you've mentioned Asen before. Is there more? Is Asen
(32:21):
kind of as.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Soon is the only one?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, well three three years I think, which if anyone's
not been able to spectate it nassively.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
To attend, Yeah, it's great event, so.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'll give that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It turns out you're on commission this whole time. Well played.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Is there big differences then, obviously between different series, like
you've mentioned some of the flags and stuff, a different
is different access, but feel different.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's not so much, it's it's sort of routine at
the same time. It's just remembering little differences like the
Dutch round in particular, everyone sort in the Brits over
sign holiday mode as well.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
A group of Brits on holidays.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Similar to and so yeah, sort of similar where and
everyone work were all there together. But so yeah to
going back to TV Will Troopers, it's it is very
much sort of run the Mill's sort of if anything,
(33:56):
being honest, it's it's like strange being because there's quite
a lot of regulars that I think, do you say much? Okay,
so if you're missing, but yeah, obviously you have the
thing that you're at motaging t and it's like the
visual sounds, everything goes with it is a whole other level.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Like, so, yeah, there's a definite buzz to it. That's
probably more so.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You feel like that comes with more pressure as well.
You know, there's more people in the stands. You know,
there's more people watching you if something happens. Do you
feel any difference, Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, it's definitely, especially if something goes wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Stack it in the gravel.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, you get a lot more. There's a lot
more criticism, like social media wise and stuff. So it's
been all over world. Yeah, and like you said about
four labor and the gravel, like it would be by
one of us.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
That's probably worse than that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You'll never escape it that way. It's gonna as soon
as you get back to your post, everyone's gonna be laughing.
You're gonna get online like and ship there it is.
One of them is already.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And yeah, it doesn't go away very quickly. There's long
memories among us.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, and I suppose as well. There you mentioned like
criticism and do you sometimes see and I'm sure Steve
and I have been guilty of this, of criticizing marshals
in the past, And do you feel like you're watching
but might actually have done nothing wrong there. I don't
know why everyone's up in arms about this. This is
quite a normal way of dealing with this situation a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it has been.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The incidence where it happened. It's not so much, Yeah,
it's I think it's look of understanding as well. Yeah,
and so yeah, sometimes you get in it. It's then
brings hills that from this year the market is red flag.
There was quite a lot and that I was read
(36:05):
about its exident all the rest of it. Yeah, that is,
he's a much more of a popcy fan in the markets,
but no reade red flag. Yeah, and to be honest, yeah, yeah,
none of responds the rags we started. No, yeah, yeah,
(36:27):
you keep it going. It makes us look far better.
And yeah who we don't. I don't want who being
all over with a bad light either. So there's definitely
pride level goes to the GP and will points a
lot more we can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Interesting, Yeah, that's fascinating. That's fascinating. I've never thought about it,
and like I like that. Steve and I have probably
been guilty of just shooting our mouths. Actually know what
we're talking about so like, it's it's interesting to know
that there's people listening that are going to be like, actually,
what the fuck? At least two going on about and
it won't be only us. I'm sure there are fans
of the sport that are doing it all over the
show with various platforms. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's not
(37:05):
just us, hope not anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's definitely. But what you say about stuff, amount of
times you get approachable somebody and it's even just spectator
invent a flagging, What does that mean that?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Why are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Dennis?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, people are interested but don't see your big picture,
no de elements to it sort of or.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So it's something that doesn't ever really get disgusted that
you see marshals around the track and you see them
interacted with the riders when they go down and that's it.
You know, they pushed the get a restarted, drag it
out of the gravel done. That's kind of that's that's
your tele tie and that's it.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
That's the scenario, hopeful.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Really yeah, in an ideal world, but there are yeah,
massive consequences and knock on effect. You know, things go wrong.
So there is stuff that happens. We're aware of that
that we have no clue about which you guys are
in the know with, but yeah, we're guilty as hell.
We sit here and go look at what doing that for?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Directs what's he doing that for? Yeah, it's still part
of our communities as much of it each other.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And you mentioned there as well that you have people
coming up to you and asking is that something that
happens regularly? Do you just get people coming up and
chatting to you, just normal punters coming and just being
like what does that flag mean? Or just asking you questions.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, so it's fairly regular.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's your recurrence.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I mean, I think around the circle at least, I've
got a lot of my pore stuck out in the
woods at the back. And anyway, it's quite nice being away.
You've got got all the prayings on you, but you
got left people to left people to witness your car.
(39:14):
But yeah, yeah, times you get approached, either in the
day after with an incident or anything. I've seen it
just caught their attention really and it's it's quite nice here.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, just generally interacting with other people who are interested
then taking an interests. Try not spoil you too much.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
No, not at all, mate, I'm fascinated. I'm aware I
said to you it will be like a half hour conversation.
We've already gone over that, so as you can tell,
I'm pretty gripped by watching here already.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
All questions.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I had a list of a few questions here
and I've just expanded through that as you've been talking, though,
we will get towards the end. I promise, what I
suppose your standout memories, the best moments you've had while marshaling.
I imagine there's quite a few highs, quite a few lows,
(40:15):
but well we'll stick for the highs.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
There's concentrated the good.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah, so yeah, there's I'm thinking about question.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
You were chatting before the show, so highlight definitely, and
going back to the whole can you just maskmote g P?
That was very naughty fairst part I last with a
g P and oppa shouldn't have been there, so the
first part ever picked up with that markets So that's
definitely high.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And yeah, sort of I'm struggling a bit when question
I got dryers.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
In terms of best moments, there's quite a lot, definitely
got and the spikes and stuff that I can pick
out accidents or whatever, but they probably not the best
moments is just then the bits of standout.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, highlight reel, but describing them as best is probably
not the best choice of language.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But yeah, in terms of general best part of it
in a way it's not said earlier, and it is
one big family gravel got each other's backs. Yeah, I
have to really yeah, And yeah, it's there's a lot
of like minded made I've made friends for doing that.
(41:43):
It's good fun going back and that's round as highlight. Okay,
there's a lot of stories from that that hand.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's a thing though as well that I expected you
to your best moment would be something like that first one,
you know, the first bike you pick up is Mark
Marquez's bike, Like that's mind blowing. But actually, what I'm
taking away from this is your best moments of the
fact you've just surrounded yourself with a bunch of other
normal people that aren't these kind of mega stars that
we're watching riding around who are the highlights of the show.
But you've surrounded yourself with these normal people you've just
(42:19):
made really good friends with, and that's just the highlight
of the weekend and that's the reason you keep going.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Actually, yeah, I've just put a story strange time light.
Yeah that actually okay, opinions being changed and worried is
in a way like the way I used with some
of them. Lorenzo was one massively, Yeah, but I always
was a fan. I admire what you could do her
(42:46):
a little bit arrogant. Actually, going back, we're in the paddock.
My nephew was young at the time that Lorenzo actually
stopped eating his dinner, invited him into the Gamahal hospitality
and you come out with a T shirts everything. Yeah,
that was quite a high low. And it was actually
(43:08):
in those different side things that you see them through
your TV camera really and in my case is here
but in their worst position emotion time, So that's quite different.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
At different times as well.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, that's super cool. You just get to see their
human side as opposed to what's portrayed all the time.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yeah, so yeah, a little bit, but.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's super cool. And that's the kind of thing Lorenzo
himself here, this is a bit of a tangent. It's
this fascinating character because I kind of hear stories about
him like this, but you just I feel like on
social media or on the TV camera, he just never
comes across like that at all. So it's nice to
know that even the people that are on the camera
seem very unlikable are actually just again normal people that
(43:58):
have got trade and bad trade.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there is we all paint and
then yeah, actually a bit like anything can be very
wrong about somebody through that.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
That's an awesome story.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I really like that one.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, quite quite, that's fantastic, and I think that's probably
a good place to end this one. Mark, We've taken
up quite a lot of your time already, so unless
there's anything else you want to add to the end
of this show.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
No, yeah, thanks very much having me over. That's all
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, no, it's been perfect. But thank you very much.
And yeah, obviously thank you for everything you and all
of your friends do one marstering events, because we all
know these events would not be possible without you guys
volunteering your time. So it's just super cool that you're
volunteering your time so that the rest of us are
able to enjoy the sports sitting at home on our
(44:55):
asses and not actually really contributing much executing one hundred
and twenty three if video parce or something like so,
it's nice to know that. And yeah, just I think
I really appreciate what you do. I think Steve really apprecchies.
All of the listeners really appreciate what you and all
the other Marshals do. So yeah, thank you very much. Yeah,
thank you, yeah so yeah, No, it's been great chatting Mark,
(45:20):
thank you very much, and for everyone listening, thank you
all very much for listening. Once again, If you've got
anything you want to or any other questions for for Mark,
then jump into the group chat over on Facebook and
pick them away there and hopefully Mark will get to
them and he's not going to get raging with me
for just suggesting it. Everyone the questions in there really
busy answering. Yeah, no worries mate, Thank you, And if
(45:47):
anyone does want to try marshalling, the link will be
in the show notes so you can jump on there
and get done and get signed up and join in.
Music is by Andrew Greenwood. Thanks for listening. Goodbye school school,
(46:20):
school schoo
Steve my good man, How the Devil are you?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm good, buddy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm very good, my friend, I'm very good. I'm very
excited Steve because for the first time ever, I get
to do the traditional introduction to the show for someone
that isn't you. So Mark my good man, how the
Devil are you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Tie?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thank you yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Excellent?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, very good up here mate, as we were just
chatting offline, it's nice to have some sunshine for once
in Scotland. It's a retreat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You're out the clouds now, buddy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Exactly exactly. So I've been teasing this show, well, this
chat with you Mark, for the last couple of weeks
on the podcast. So for anyone that hasn't been listening
and is listening to this one, we've got here with us.
Mark is a marshal at BSB events, World super Bike
events as well, yeah yeah, and and and motor GP events.
(01:10):
So without people like Mark, this sport that we all
love would be impossible. So Mark has graciously agreed to
come on today to chat about his experience as a marshal.
So take it away, Mark, Like you've you've across a
bunch of different series there. So that's as I say,
BSB World, Superpike, Motor GP. Is there anything else as well?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So yeah, pretty much emylevel from Cup level through TOMTOGV
in the UK. It's all various differences between different tastes
different but so yeah, mainta mainly BSB so it might
be a little bit more related answers all times differences
(01:56):
will go.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So yeah, so I just say where do you want
to start with?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I guess like, so you said you mainly do BSB,
then so are you doing one circuit a bunch of
the time? Are you traveling around to do various circuits
in the UK?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So this season? Planning every round this year? Yeah, fairly ready, Yeah,
do most of them. So yeah, it'll arrive. For me,
it's arrived for Friday night. I've worked Fridays and fortune
apart Friday very often, so yeah, my pictures sort of
(02:39):
Friday night before we'll get set up. Yeah we've got
Cary and coach with us, nice and yeah, so yeah
Friday set up and then signing on is Saturday morning.
Usually for me it was a Thursday night and Friday
morning when if you're doing Friday okay, yeah, so sort
(03:03):
of speaking my personal one. And so yeah, we get
there every time really arrived, get that up sign in
the morning, which is usually twin seven and a half
seven roughly.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay start, I was going to say weekend exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, two things actually earlier. Two and Worlds is actually
earlier starts okay, yeah, yeah, a lot earlier for that one.
So yeah, from there we go to you get so yeah,
it's a general sort of thing. You get to get
a breakfast ticket or even in middal you get one
(03:46):
meal day. Basically you're doing so well, my day looks
like the breakfast at that point. Yeah, they have Fri
up in the morning, so he's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Exactly, got year through for a busy die.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Exactly, Yeah, or from their road out both sort of
wherever that may be a minute. It's fairly sort of
know where you're going in advance, you know what you're
going to do. Now change that's changed. Before that, it
was very much turned up Saturday morning to find out
(04:21):
where you were going. Basically just know you had to
suit pay for in front of you. Yeah, you go out,
did those five sens, all that sort of stuff, getting
stretches or that sort stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Set up from there.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We then and do sort of practice with structure, usually
have a helmet there as well to practice take helmets off.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, it's interesting, So that's that's part of your job
as well. Then if someone needs it to take the helmet, it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Can be Yeah, I mean it's not a regular thing.
So we do it under medical supervision. Okay, yeah, sort of,
So MOTORCP it's very much don't do it, so yeah,
sort of. Again, IF's unconscious on the floor, it's sort
of what's the eagles. Let them medicals get to work
(05:19):
is basically the general rules. Okay, so yeah, it being
led by we have a medical on post with us.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Each a medic and there's a medic in every position
is there with you as well?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, that's pretty much apparent paramedic doctor. They try and
get things mainly try and get paramedics out actually taxile
on each post because yeah, it's point down, run the
out sort of day job.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, exactly, trauma.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, so we're very much led by them in what
we do medical wise. But yeah, we're sort of getting
sort of idea is if we can do your helmet
removals and stuff, then they can get to work on
the patient basically at that point.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, so yeah, fair enough. It's a bit of a
mission though, isn't it, Like, because I mean, a good
helmet is on pretty tight, but you see them in
the races getting their helmets on and they are super tight,
Like it's got to be a bit of a mission
to get that off for someone else.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, it's a bit of technique to it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But I mean, yeah, I'm not actually very many.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's a very sort of rare scene, but yeah, yeah,
something is it's funny from you to hate. So it
was well known that that was part of our roles.
I thought it was something chair basically and high. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Absolutely, that's fascinating because I assumed that wouldn't be part
of your role at all. I kind of like the
doctor the paramedic would be doing that, and like your
job was just to I don't know if it got
to that point, you know, hold up the doctor board
or putting the blankets around or whatever it is, or
just carrying people off. I didn't realize that was part
of the role.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So yeah, sort of mids and I don't know how
it works part and aison is very different and they
have medical team on site, so there's is very separate.
It's Marshall many pretty more your picture in but yeah,
the UK based it's much more. That's sort of way
(07:35):
inclined that it's pretty a bit more sets younger wise,
some of the that sides.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
So yeah, okay, and yeah, so yeah from then on,
I mean, yeah, trying not to bore it too much,
to drag it step sort of.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Go through the day.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah that you expect start excuse you about half eight,
so come around for head count, make sure everyone's where
they want your flags away they want them to be,
and okay, what about sort of stuff and then yeah,
crackaut starts nine o'clock and it all becomes live. And
(08:19):
then what comes around basically yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Okay, and that's the exciting that I imagine when you
hear the engine start and you're like, okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, it's it's always a bit of a drenal, the
rush all of us, that's what we're spoking sky.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Still get a better rush, So.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's fantastic. At least it still gives you that bus.
It's not like it's like, ah, this is just what
we do at the weekends. Now, it's still an exciting
thing to be doing exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, yeah, I mean it's tenth season and still yeah,
it's still don't happens every Yeah, tempt the bet you,
I just haven't bet you. Yeah, this is was this year. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Okay, and you've done a Motor GP round every year
at least one every year for the last eleven years.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, so okay, yeah, apart from the sales team one
that was rained off who stood down for that one.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, we don't talk about twenty eighteen. We just like
we let we let that just disappear off.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
But yeah, some that's good fun.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Oh no, but sort of mini family is right away
from there's a lot of us that do travel around
with it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That so it becomes a good sort of solution. Sorry
as well, it's not.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, there's lots of winding up in order going on.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
As you do when you just get a group of
like minded people together, like it just becomes exactly the
party atmosphere I imagine.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, the nice Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You take the caravan with you just all around the
UK if you're good doing like obviously you're assen did
you take the caravan then as well?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So I'll do it with that. Also doing that will
travel together basically. Yeah, it's see, I take that around
every other it's basically and home from home in the
way holidays A Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's excellent. It's probably getting more used to most people's caravans,
to be fair. So you're putting it through places.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So you said that you don't always do the Friday
or you don't do the Fridays because you work it,
So isn't that quite normal for people just to come
in and do like a Saturday Sunday or even to
do just one day.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, so for like BFP events upwards. Yeah, it's a
world motor up. It's a minimum to two days, right,
it's I mean third ones will it sack? Yeah, one
day basically take what what they can get in away
because they're struggling massive the issue. I know that. So yeah,
(11:15):
there's probably take for seventy thirty sort of the two
days we go the main two days and.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Just work commitments.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It was probably, but yeah, Friday is very much more
with your retired ones or people that live loking. I've
got a holiday and so yeah, yeah, it's all so, yeah,
it's not quite a split in terms of numbers that
I have been increased on Saturday each time.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Is there a minimum number of like marshals that have
got to be so you just go into a BSB weekend?
Is there a minimum number for each day.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
There will be a minimum I couldn't tell you what
is my head even cup present there is still around
which in the chap with the broader game messaging like
they're still very much a minimum number for an event run. Yeah,
so yeah, basically means for gold lines again some some
(12:17):
venture have a lot more and your ballet even number
so okay, it does vary.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Okay, and I guess does it depend on the size
of the circuit, but just what that minimum number would
be theoretically, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I sort of guess this minimum number per post
what they want for the safety safety grounds of it all.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Really, Yeah, of course that's the way it should be, absolutely,
and sadly, as we have seen in recent years, not
always the way it is unfortunately, but we won't try
and get yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so's it's absolutely
(13:02):
worth mentioning. Absolutely, And so you're at the do you
get you get given your position, you know where you're
going to be, you know which post you're going to
be at you're staying at that post all weekend, or
you moved about between during the day or between days.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So you stay at that one post, but you rotate
around the post.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, there's a village at touched
on this weekend with Scott four points three points, wasn't
it in the end? Well, but it ends it's like
you rotate around the three Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Interesting, Okay, so there's positions of different positions you're waiting at
and that's where you're based, but that one post will
incorporate all of those. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, so again very circuit circuit. Yeah, yeah, some have
a lot more than brands. Bands to six paces, six
places on our post, we will rotate around okay, wow, okay,
so yeah, it's you get a different view and a
different just breaks a little bit as well for everyone
(14:02):
in one place and yeah, hidden boring, but it's sort
of yeah, if she's good all day, just watching spits
off a little bit mentally, it's very much.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I imagine as well, if it's days, whether the weather's
horrendous or really nice. Actually, if it's like you kind
of want to be moving around otherwise it's going to
be a bit of a So when you're in the
different positions then around the post, have you got a
different role, a different job role while you're there or
is it just like an easier access to different points
(14:40):
depending on.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Grave and yeah, so there you are different different roles
within that position. So so for me just the marshal,
so you call a pickup point, which is where you're
basically on the stand way. If something happens, you got
to deal with it and you've got the flat bo.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And the case.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You might have a point where if you've got enough
numbers sort of stand by pickup team, which is the
mainly deal with any order incidents. If you've got stay
down or multiple bugs down, then they sort of go
to back up the other team. Really okay, so yeah,
it's sort of it's not that varied, but a little
(15:23):
bit of variation in front of the day.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Nice, I guess like mixed up a little bit. You're
not just like you say, in one spot looking at
one position, do one job. They do like vary you about.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, that's I mean again sort of the different positions
within it. You've got people with specialist pit lane mm hmm.
Sort of recovery guys, taxi by guys. Yeah, there's numerous
roles people. Can people do right.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's interesting. Can you progress through these different roles as well?
Is it like a leader system where as with experience
you can go up the ladder or is it just whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You Yeah, a little bit. It's there's progressions there.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And but yeah, you look at it, maybe three taxi
boatstre recovery bands Richard. And what people mainly want is
there one met riders get all the bikes, yeah, getting
into those.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned taxi bikes there. I always
assume when we see those on the screen that that's
just like a team member that's just randomly turned off
at the right place or the right time, or just
a random standard by who's just there. He's like, oh yeah,
hop on, I'll take you back.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah. No, GP votes in particular, a lot of times
they have for the scooters and someone happens to be in
the right place at the right time for the same
chle of money and fat people watching some Yeah, and
then sorry, no, I.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Was just I was going to start talking about flags
briefly actually as well, because there's so many flags that
is it's hard to wrap your head around sometimes as
you're watching, like what the fuck does that one mean? Again,
that's something all marshals are able to weigh flags? Or
is it specifically people who have like trained and past
a test like I have absolute no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, so basically do it's one training day they see
who we all do when you first join, and then
it's very much till we.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Put with somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
If you started NEWBI again, you're put with somebody with
experience that is basically not in charge of you. But
it's sort of like monitor what you're keeping eye and
you make sure you get flags right. So we're all
trained to do it. Like again going to GP and
(17:57):
you tend getting confused with flags of their flags have
different meanings to what we're used to. That's the white
flag for the writer change in GPS general rule is
a medical flag med car comes out or slowly even
vehicle on track. So so yeah, it's that one in particular.
(18:23):
It's at that's a very different meaning between the two
majorities all cross over pot it's just different regulations on
what you do with them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, it's basically.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Do you just have the power to throw the flag
when you have when you've decided it's enough or you're
waiting on a call from from elsewhere to say.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
So basically, any flag red or safety car wise is
our discretion or uh, I'm gonna say IoT, incident officer,
which is post chief, corner, chief personal, whever you'll call it.
There come over the radio. So in the five point
(19:11):
at least, when you're at a radio interesting there, I
get the if it's raining, different trains that hang like that,
there call it and we put the flag out. But
so yeah, red flag and taking our flag in particularly
purely raise control. Other than that, it's very much react
(19:33):
to what you see sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I guess that keeps
it able to react faster. That way, you're not waiting
on calls from elsewhere, and you know, even a few
seconds here or there can make a big difference. So
if you can see something, it's better just to be
able to throw the yellow or I guess if they
start to come down, to throw that limited edition flag
so no one gets caught out by it. Yeah, it's nice, excellent,
(19:58):
So that keeps you really busy throughout the track action time.
What happens when there is no track action. What are
you guys doing?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Then then it depends where you are what perhaps you are.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
So if you're somewhere, you can have a wonder of
basically downtime if you want to have wonder off to
get somewhere there, did it work? Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Access to that. If you're you can weel free to
do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Basically a lot of time, it's just sit down and
have your lunch or just sit into out basically. Yeah,
if you're somewhere that you can go off the family,
go off stores, whatever you want to do. Yeah, you
read to do what you want to do basically just
back in time.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You need to be ready for it's a bit of
a lunch break.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Lunch break, yeah, and what they do and you're just
told what like track action is coming back at you know,
I don't know one thirty, so be back here by
one twenty and then we could.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Go yeah, which exactly squeezy about five times?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Or would you start from back? Everyone's in position?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Good basically okay, excellent, and then there is they were
just like a quick roll call like glass around on
the radios. Is everyone in position? So we can get
this session live.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, No, it's just.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Basically, yeah, I think it's just assumed everyone's bad lesson. Yeah, okay,
I mean it's martial wife, you're not Asian, Amic's wonder
time minds like we've lost that around but point okay,
which that does then hold it up a little bit.
That's not that's actually more important than what we are
(21:47):
at that point. Yeah, it's but yeah, it's a very
rare occurrence that one as well.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
We will say, yeah, I can imagine it's not being
at your job and being like, well I'm going to
sky of an extra five and it's in Tesco's or
I'm gonna school. You're like, I ain't got that lesson,
Like people are here because here, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So yeah, it's you're there as a hobby and we're
not paid for it. So you're there because you want
to be there, rather than it's been at work where
you just go.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Exactly. So you just mentioned that you're not paid for
it at all. So this is all voluntary. You get
what compensated one meal a day. Is there any other
like is you're camping, are you in the general keeping
area or are you in a specific area.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So we've got our own camps. So we get our
own camps, our area. It's a free camping obviously, we
get free access and one free desks ticket for each
event we're doing. Okay, so yeah, sort of wives, partners,
anyone you up bring along really Yeah, it's sort of
(22:55):
a little bonus for doing that as well. Yeah, so
a generator is provided for us all So does electric
go round? It's a bit can be limited, can be
very lucky. Yes, So, yeah, there's a lot if you
(23:16):
add not being paid whatever. So I've to add up
what we get every weekends quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Really, admission fee, camping fee, it all starts to add up.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah again, especially GPS get that.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Quite We've we've ranted about the price of Silverston quite
a few times over the years. Quite And is that
just so your the other past you get for someone else?
And actually I guess your pass is that just like
a general admission pass that you get to wander around
with or have you as a marshall got access to
(23:58):
a few more areas than fre show.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So again, poaching bsb wiys is very much open GP wise,
it's in the air.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We's got a little past. We have a lanyard that
I might have its fine somewhere here. Yeah, very much.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That sort of access to all circuits and it's all
as areas and I guess you can walk through. You
get through garriages as hot cut, look through your garage,
great down about or whatever. The motive GP one is
a little bit more regimented, like you get so you
have to wear bib like you've seen them TV where
(24:41):
you've got the bibs on. Yeah, so that gives you
access to all areas during the event, but it's limited. Yeah,
a few years ago, Yes, we're getting paddock with them basically, well,
were a little bit from that in the evening you
could go enough water around a paddock, which it's use
your lockdown to the general public.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, Yeah, it was quite.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Good and negotiating it as an officials that get us
in there for a couple of hours on a Friday
night basically go out and gat you time.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay wow, So still that's just an extra thing that
you're seeing. The average Joe isn't able to the track action.
You're actually sometimes interacting with people and you're getting this
kind of access to areas even in your downtime. Occasionally
that average Stow isn't get at all.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, it's nice perks, nice little perks.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's quite a lot to it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Awesome, fantastic. And then what's so what happens at kind
of the end of a day of the races. Are
you just hanging out in the campsite, You're going out
to the pub, like you you're hanging out and making
friends with everyone, Like, what was it looked like for you?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah? So again me personally got off and girl go back,
go back to the bars. Groups, we'll go back to
the bar together pretty much, meet up at the bar,
maybe ten tens, sit down with your drinks. Then just
so and Dennis either yeah, we'll end up in a
(26:12):
caravante room or something or yeah, yeah, very's meeting to meeting.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Sometimes she's just get.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Sleep.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, sometimes from or like there's always people about this sort.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
For what bet we're putting it a bit being back
at school where you make you funded by your mates
and people you're yeah or or like minded people. It's
like you've always have someone doing something of what I
will say.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Fair enough sounds good, that's fantastic, and he gets your
track walks as well. You just say that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, so Stone again got anaze. It's not so there
is very much no. No, you go on to chat.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Every other UK circuit pretty much seeing the racing is
done opens up and you can wander around. Yeah, everyone around,
look at where they wonder where I grab? Can I
wonder around Chat where it's great south from the day
and see what's going on Chat.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's very cool.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's fantastic mate, Well fucking great way to spend a weekend.
Just amazing experience into it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now I'm like this sounds good.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And on that note, actually, if the people are interested
in getting into it, like how does that? How how
does that work? How do you get into.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
There's various ways.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean I've got some more story. I got into
it by accident, really, okay, I mean you said I
started out with Mars, So I don't know if it
works for most other circuits, but at the time a
lot of places have sort of taste there.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Had that were signed up for it in terms of.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Doings be to matter GP that all comes under. They're
called race Safe the organization. Okay, so if anyone's interesting
link into the great chart or it's racett, you.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Can send me the link as well. Then I'll pop
that into the show notes for this episode.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, and again it's so it needs streamline really that
I was turned up very soon, okay, because it's limited,
very limited time wise for that. But again I've said
Club Marcelin crowing out in a minute, if you wanted
to have a day really see what it's like. Again,
(28:49):
it's all different clubs you can get in touch with.
Look on the websites. Nine times ten there'd be something
there that they'll be doing the training at some events.
But yeah, so okay, it's a sort of start up point.
It's not about Yeah, that's a good way to go
about it as well.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, and do you need to say if you're say
you're just really keen to do much a GP marshaling,
do you need to have done a club or BSB
or something to get there or is there training available
if you just want to dive into my GP. And
as an extension of that, is it like if you've
not got a training, even if it's feasible, they're going
to be like, no, now, we want you to have
experience elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
The official answer is you have to so many events
before and you can't just do GP.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
The reality is where it was earlier in the air. Yeah,
I've said sales not that popular among us.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
A lot of people actually to get numbers.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So yeah, sort of a lot of experience goes I
don't money gay basically it's sillstone, it's I don't know.
I won't go a major rout about it, but yeah,
it's definitely divide between sort of marshals do it and
(30:10):
enjoy it and those that just go are saying watch
on TV until that AGP that way. Okay, yeah, but
but yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Where we're going.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, so World's major GP dificial answers. Yes, you have
to do some b before. So when you when you
start out given you get a train car they call it,
which is basically good twelve days of which yeah eight
I think eight have to be safely days to world
quite no GP and four can be anything else or
(30:48):
you can do as well through their events sort of thing. Okay, yeah,
that's not working.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So and as well, like you so you've done your event,
you've done your twelve like you're at your now you
can you can do major you can do world two
bikes only the big ones. Do you have to do
a certain number per year as well? Or can you
just to drop in, do just one if you wanted,
and then that's you for the year.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, honestly, I believe that is the case, that it's
just whatever you can make. I don't think as a
minimum number. I think it's if you don't attend for
three years, I think it's well, your membership gets provokes
a little bit. I don't know, okay really on that one. Yeah,
I think if you're inactive for a period of time,
(31:34):
I watch the three years, but I could be wrong. Yeah. Bet.
Other than that, it's whatever you can do for that
the year. Okay, Yeah, there's no you met one way
or the other. If you want to go get the
bug and join us of us carving around following circus,
then you can just do one local event like that's
(31:56):
fine as well. Yeah, you're welcome basically.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That's great. So you personally, then you've done obviously you've
you've said already following BSP this year, So you've done
all the major UK circuits, and I assume you've done
super Bikes and make GP in the UK as well,
so Donnington and Silverstone okay, and then outside of that,
what other circuits have you been to outside of the UK?
And you've mentioned Asen before. Is there more? Is Asen
(32:21):
kind of as.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Soon is the only one?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, well three three years I think, which if anyone's
not been able to spectate it nassively.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
To attend, Yeah, it's great event, so.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'll give that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It turns out you're on commission this whole time. Well played.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Is there big differences then, obviously between different series, like
you've mentioned some of the flags and stuff, a different
is different access, but feel different.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's not so much, it's it's sort of routine at
the same time. It's just remembering little differences like the
Dutch round in particular, everyone sort in the Brits over
sign holiday mode as well.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
A group of Brits on holidays.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Similar to and so yeah, sort of similar where and
everyone work were all there together. But so yeah to
going back to TV Will Troopers, it's it is very
much sort of run the Mill's sort of if anything,
(33:56):
being honest, it's it's like strange being because there's quite
a lot of regulars that I think, do you say much? Okay,
so if you're missing, but yeah, obviously you have the
thing that you're at motaging t and it's like the
visual sounds, everything goes with it is a whole other level.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Like, so, yeah, there's a definite buzz to it. That's
probably more so.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You feel like that comes with more pressure as well.
You know, there's more people in the stands. You know,
there's more people watching you if something happens. Do you
feel any difference, Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, it's definitely, especially if something goes wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Stack it in the gravel.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, you get a lot more. There's a lot
more criticism, like social media wise and stuff. So it's
been all over world. Yeah, and like you said about
four labor and the gravel, like it would be by
one of us.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
That's probably worse than that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You'll never escape it that way. It's gonna as soon
as you get back to your post, everyone's gonna be laughing.
You're gonna get online like and ship there it is.
One of them is already.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And yeah, it doesn't go away very quickly. There's long
memories among us.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, and I suppose as well. There you mentioned like
criticism and do you sometimes see and I'm sure Steve
and I have been guilty of this, of criticizing marshals
in the past, And do you feel like you're watching
but might actually have done nothing wrong there. I don't
know why everyone's up in arms about this. This is
quite a normal way of dealing with this situation a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it has been.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The incidence where it happened. It's not so much, Yeah,
it's I think it's look of understanding as well. Yeah,
and so yeah, sometimes you get in it. It's then
brings hills that from this year the market is red flag.
There was quite a lot and that I was read
(36:05):
about its exident all the rest of it. Yeah, that is,
he's a much more of a popcy fan in the markets,
but no reade red flag. Yeah, and to be honest, yeah, yeah,
none of responds the rags we started. No, yeah, yeah,
(36:27):
you keep it going. It makes us look far better.
And yeah who we don't. I don't want who being
all over with a bad light either. So there's definitely
pride level goes to the GP and will points a
lot more we can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Interesting, Yeah, that's fascinating. That's fascinating. I've never thought about it,
and like I like that. Steve and I have probably
been guilty of just shooting our mouths. Actually know what
we're talking about so like, it's it's interesting to know
that there's people listening that are going to be like, actually,
what the fuck? At least two going on about and
it won't be only us. I'm sure there are fans
of the sport that are doing it all over the
show with various platforms. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's not
(37:05):
just us, hope not anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's definitely. But what you say about stuff, amount of
times you get approachable somebody and it's even just spectator
invent a flagging, What does that mean that?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Why are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Dennis?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, people are interested but don't see your big picture,
no de elements to it sort of or.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So it's something that doesn't ever really get disgusted that
you see marshals around the track and you see them
interacted with the riders when they go down and that's it.
You know, they pushed the get a restarted, drag it
out of the gravel done. That's kind of that's that's
your tele tie and that's it.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
That's the scenario, hopeful.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Really yeah, in an ideal world, but there are yeah,
massive consequences and knock on effect. You know, things go wrong.
So there is stuff that happens. We're aware of that
that we have no clue about which you guys are
in the know with, but yeah, we're guilty as hell.
We sit here and go look at what doing that for?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Directs what's he doing that for? Yeah, it's still part
of our communities as much of it each other.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And you mentioned there as well that you have people
coming up to you and asking is that something that
happens regularly? Do you just get people coming up and
chatting to you, just normal punters coming and just being
like what does that flag mean? Or just asking you questions.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, so it's fairly regular.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's your recurrence.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I mean, I think around the circle at least, I've
got a lot of my pore stuck out in the
woods at the back. And anyway, it's quite nice being away.
You've got got all the prayings on you, but you
got left people to left people to witness your car.
(39:14):
But yeah, yeah, times you get approached, either in the
day after with an incident or anything. I've seen it
just caught their attention really and it's it's quite nice here.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, just generally interacting with other people who are interested
then taking an interests. Try not spoil you too much.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
No, not at all, mate, I'm fascinated. I'm aware I
said to you it will be like a half hour conversation.
We've already gone over that, so as you can tell,
I'm pretty gripped by watching here already.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
All questions.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I had a list of a few questions here
and I've just expanded through that as you've been talking, though,
we will get towards the end. I promise, what I
suppose your standout memories, the best moments you've had while marshaling.
I imagine there's quite a few highs, quite a few lows,
(40:15):
but well we'll stick for the highs.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
There's concentrated the good.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah, so yeah, there's I'm thinking about question.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
You were chatting before the show, so highlight definitely, and
going back to the whole can you just maskmote g P?
That was very naughty fairst part I last with a
g P and oppa shouldn't have been there, so the
first part ever picked up with that markets So that's
definitely high.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And yeah, sort of I'm struggling a bit when question
I got dryers.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
In terms of best moments, there's quite a lot, definitely
got and the spikes and stuff that I can pick
out accidents or whatever, but they probably not the best
moments is just then the bits of standout.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, highlight reel, but describing them as best is probably
not the best choice of language.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But yeah, in terms of general best part of it
in a way it's not said earlier, and it is
one big family gravel got each other's backs. Yeah, I
have to really yeah, And yeah, it's there's a lot
of like minded made I've made friends for doing that.
(41:43):
It's good fun going back and that's round as highlight. Okay,
there's a lot of stories from that that hand.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's a thing though as well that I expected you
to your best moment would be something like that first one,
you know, the first bike you pick up is Mark
Marquez's bike, Like that's mind blowing. But actually, what I'm
taking away from this is your best moments of the
fact you've just surrounded yourself with a bunch of other
normal people that aren't these kind of mega stars that
we're watching riding around who are the highlights of the show.
But you've surrounded yourself with these normal people you've just
(42:19):
made really good friends with, and that's just the highlight
of the weekend and that's the reason you keep going.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Actually, yeah, I've just put a story strange time light.
Yeah that actually okay, opinions being changed and worried is
in a way like the way I used with some
of them. Lorenzo was one massively, Yeah, but I always
was a fan. I admire what you could do her
(42:46):
a little bit arrogant. Actually, going back, we're in the paddock.
My nephew was young at the time that Lorenzo actually
stopped eating his dinner, invited him into the Gamahal hospitality
and you come out with a T shirts everything. Yeah,
that was quite a high low. And it was actually
(43:08):
in those different side things that you see them through
your TV camera really and in my case is here
but in their worst position emotion time, So that's quite different.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
At different times as well.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, that's super cool. You just get to see their
human side as opposed to what's portrayed all the time.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yeah, so yeah, a little bit, but.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's super cool. And that's the kind of thing Lorenzo
himself here, this is a bit of a tangent. It's
this fascinating character because I kind of hear stories about
him like this, but you just I feel like on
social media or on the TV camera, he just never
comes across like that at all. So it's nice to
know that even the people that are on the camera
seem very unlikable are actually just again normal people that
(43:58):
have got trade and bad trade.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there is we all paint and
then yeah, actually a bit like anything can be very
wrong about somebody through that.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
That's an awesome story.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I really like that one.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, quite quite, that's fantastic, and I think that's probably
a good place to end this one. Mark, We've taken
up quite a lot of your time already, so unless
there's anything else you want to add to the end
of this show.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
No, yeah, thanks very much having me over. That's all
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, no, it's been perfect. But thank you very much.
And yeah, obviously thank you for everything you and all
of your friends do one marstering events, because we all
know these events would not be possible without you guys
volunteering your time. So it's just super cool that you're
volunteering your time so that the rest of us are
able to enjoy the sports sitting at home on our
(44:55):
asses and not actually really contributing much executing one hundred
and twenty three if video parce or something like so,
it's nice to know that. And yeah, just I think
I really appreciate what you do. I think Steve really apprecchies.
All of the listeners really appreciate what you and all
the other Marshals do. So yeah, thank you very much. Yeah,
thank you, yeah so yeah, No, it's been great chatting Mark,
(45:20):
thank you very much, and for everyone listening, thank you
all very much for listening. Once again, If you've got
anything you want to or any other questions for for Mark,
then jump into the group chat over on Facebook and
pick them away there and hopefully Mark will get to
them and he's not going to get raging with me
for just suggesting it. Everyone the questions in there really
busy answering. Yeah, no worries mate, Thank you, And if
(45:47):
anyone does want to try marshalling, the link will be
in the show notes so you can jump on there
and get done and get signed up and join in.
Music is by Andrew Greenwood. Thanks for listening. Goodbye school school,
(46:20):
school schoo
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