Crashes, Castrations and Conundrums – Assen 2025 MotoGP Race Review - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Steve, my good man. How the devil?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Are you very good? Buddy? How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm very good, my friend. I realized after last week's
show I'd been opening my can behind the microphone. Who
didn't pick up any of the can opening sounds? As
I was editing it, I was like, I don't know
what's just happened here? How have I not got any
of those noises? But I assumed by the look on
your face when I cracked that one, it came through
loud and clear.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
That one came through very good. Yeah, I said last week,
I couldn't hear one of your can openings, And then
you know, I hadn't considered that because we have these
directional mics, so I don't know. Actually I think one,
just one side of you is.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah it is. I completely lost you for a moment there,
So yes, can confirm it's working as it should be.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
All working swimmingly nie. Excellent, we have a good beer
opening start to the show.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Excellent. How was your weekend anyway, Steve?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Pretty damn warm mate. It is hot down here.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah it's cool enough now, but you get hot again.
But yeah, it was really good. A lot of racing,
watched the races and we had a football tournament Saturdays,
so we did that in the blazing Yes, how did
he get on? They are right? Yeah, there was no
wine and no wingin They all played a lot of
games in the blistering heat. Kids did fantastic. They all
had a great time. Got a medal and yeah was

(01:20):
it really We all died of heat stroke after.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Was this the winner's medal or a participation medal?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
And participation medal they all get partition fair enough? Yeah,
it was fun. How was your weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
My weekend was great, mate. I had a cracking weekend.
There was obviously all the motorbike racing. There was Formula One,
and then I watched almost the entire live stream of
the Western States Endurance Run, which I don't know if
you ever heard of it, but it's one of the
arguably one of the two biggest ultramarathons in the world,

(01:56):
and it was just they had a live stream of
the whole event and just a fantastic setup, really good.
It felt like, you know when you're watching at GP
race and Silverstone that year it was canceled. It brings
to mind here, but there's really long rain delays and
they're just grabbing people to talk to and they're trying
to fill like six hours of airtime. And it's actually
quite a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, that's what

(02:19):
this was like. But it was the whole thing because
they can't follow the runners over one hundred miles, so
they have people in the aid stations and they have
your drone flying up every now and again. But they're like,
you know, an hour and a half at a time
where you don't actually unss you're watching the trackers. You
don't know where the leaders are, you don't know if
their trackers are running properly, you don't know how close
they are to each other really, so they just feel
all this time and then there's five minutes of excitement

(02:40):
as all the leaders come through, and then it just
peters out again to them just chatting to the ages,
and then it comes up again. It was really fun.
I really enjoyed watching it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
No, okay, fandas they didn't have a dedicated cameraman who
sort of followed the leader the entire time.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, no, they did not. That would have to be
one really fit cameraman. Yeah. No. On like the road Sex,
they have people on bikes so they can ride alongside
filming them, and they will have people running along and
they'll have camera men set up various places along the course.
There's drone pilots flying drones. He can film stuff. So
you're seeing a lot of it, and probably a lot
more than you would have done ten to fifteen years ago.
But yeah, there's still a lot you don't see. But

(03:16):
it's just a really cool event. I really enjoyed watching it.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well fair enough. I might have to check that out
next year.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, it's good. And then Steve, I text you about
this just after it happened. I had my embarrassing, my
embarrassing moment in a petrol station where I went to
try and fill the car up and my fuel cap
was stuck on, like not the actual cap itself, but
you know, like the little door that was locked into place.
The central locking in my car is ruined anyway, so

(03:43):
I think this is part of that problem. And I
couldn't get it open for the life of me, and
I ended up on YouTube just sitting there blocking a
petrol pump like it's okay. There was no one, not
that many people around, but just sat in the car
watching YouTube videos about how to open it. Eventually managed
to inside the boot where you can kind of get
to it and you can flick it up with a well,

(04:05):
they say us a screwdriver, but I'd use pair toeezers
and you can flick it up and that will open it.
But oh my god, my carboot was full of shopping
I just picked up, so I had like the entirety
of Tescos just pouring out the back of my car.
And then as the petrol station, I was just trying
to jury rig it open and got there in the end,
but fucking I got some looks and as I went
into the garage to pay, he went, pump, pumpey. I

(04:28):
was like, yeah, yeah, pumpey, you went thirty five quid.
I was like, yeah, that's right, you went. You were there,
fucking ages mate. Yes, I'm well aware. Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I like the fact that your knowledge that you were
just there just hanging out. I mean, we're bys. We
do meet in petrol stations and you know where we're
going to meet as off the A one and all
this ship, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah exactly. I just sort of go hang for a bit,
and thankfully it wasn't a that busy because it was
smashing it down with rain. I didn't really want to
have to leave the undercover bit of the petrol station
to then have all of my shopping out of the boot.
So thankfully it wasn't too busy, so I could just
stay there and do it and like sneakily watching a
YouTube video in the boots while I was trying to
find the actuator to the rescue. Exactly, we're trying to

(05:14):
be sneaky because I was like, Oh, they're going to
tell me off over the speakers to use my phone.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh priceless. But we've all had moments like that. But
it keeps us entertained when you regale us with your stories. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yet, I was convinced Eve, by the time I hit
my mid thirties, i'd have a car good enough of
these kind of things wouldn't be problems anymore. But here
we are, here we are.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yes, yeah, you're not alone. My van is not without
the issues.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah yeah, mid forties mates still haven't got a disc car.
But then we can't worry about shit like that. It's
mediocre stuff compared to the big problems in life.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Exactly, exactly, that's Steve. The biggest problem I've had this
week is it took me half an hour to give
a petrol cap open. Then that's what I'm doing. Okay,
that's not about exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, I had a big problem this week and
I don't have yet. There's still earlier in the week,
so there's time.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Exactly. It's only Tuesday, mate, let's not speak to so
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
No exactly, come tomorrow. It'll be a major disaster somewhere.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, quite anyway, Steve, I think I'm getting the feeling.
I say, getting the feeling. I wrote the show notes
and I know how long they are, and I think
this might be quite a long show. So shall we
dive into it.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Let's go for it, buddy. We will try and keep
tangents to a minimum, but well, this is us.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah exactly. We'll make no promises, but we will do
our best to keep this under two hours.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We'll give it a whack.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I'm Tim. He's Steve, And this is for the
love of Moto GP. If you are new to the show, welcome,
If you are returning, welcome back. This is for the

(07:01):
love of Moto GP, the show where Steve and I
sit down with a couple of beers and talk about
Moto GP like we would in the pub. Steve's putting
a face right now because I don't think he's on
the beer again tonight.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
No. I always try and fool myself by putting it
in a corona glass, but you know, it just doesn't.
It's not the same, is it.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
No, but it's it's not the unusual orange squash. Is
that a black currant and apple?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I see there, it is a black cart I've gone
all all, you know, I've treated myself to a bit
of black currant level. We're splashed out.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Nice. It's paid a week's paid a week, So we
splashed out on the black currant and apple. But none
of that Robinson's No, No, that's a bit too rich
for our blood. Exactly right. Anyway, if you are you,
that's one of the usual tangents we get through, so
you will get used to those. Even if we be

(07:55):
we do to keep them to a minimum. Lovely, Oh,
that's what was happening. I've got all confused from a minute.
You started creaking and then you kind of glitched out
a little bit. But we're back, so we're going to
dive in Steve, let's go for it. First off, I
would just like to give a huge shout out at
the top of this show to Mark. Mark is a

(08:17):
listener who was marshaling at Asen this weekend and was
giving us updates from what he could see at the
side of the circuit. And I'll tell you what, it
was absolutely fascinating to me to get to see a
glimpse of the circuit from Mark's perspective. This view and
insight we don't usually get, so it was super cool
and we were able to, like every now and again,

(08:38):
fire questions at him about what was going on, and
he could he was proplying and sent a couple of
pictures and yeah, just really cool stuff coming from Mark.
So a huge shout out. Thanks a bunch of Mark.
I really enjoyed having you in the Facebook messenger group there.
That was that was super cool.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I was keeping up, but I was kind of
stalking looking in the background. Yeah, I was giving a
So that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I enjoyed it. Yeah, And I tell you what, the
biggest thing I took away from that, so obviously, Mark
Marquez was after one of his get offs, I was
complaining about the size of the gravel, and I popped
a message and asking Mark what he thought from not
Mark Marquez obviously Listena Mark Mark with a K Mark

(09:21):
with the sea. So I just say, like, what's the
gravel like? It doesn't seem as bad, like you're there,
let us know. And he sent a picture back, and
I honestly never really considered what the gravel traps are
made of before. But well, there was a couple of
bigger bits there in the where he showed his picture
of but it wasn't huge, but it was still you know,

(09:43):
it was like a gravel car park. It was still
bigger stones than I expected. I don't know, I kind
of thought it was just gonna be like a Sampit
didn't actually expect them to be, you know, like pebbles,
like it was that shit, it's gonna hurt as you
go through that, no matter what happens.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was. I saw that picture, I was like, whoa,
some of that looks chunky. You always expect like a proper,
i don't know, like a beach. We always call it
the sandpit for a reason. Yeah, because you expect soft,
you know, bounceable stuff, not proper bowlders. You know this
stuf's gonna fucking hurts. Some of that stuff was big, yeah,

(10:18):
type one.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I was quite surprised by it in general, and
I'd never really considered what the makeup of these gravel
traps is before, as Mark with a K was saying, like,
that actually looks finer than some of the stuff in
the UK, like smaller stones, but it's still there's still
some stones in there that you're going to know about
it when you're sliding through that.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Without doubt, certainly are not wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So yes, thank you very much, Mark, We truly appreciate that. That
was super cool. But let's dive into the news, Steve,
because there was a couple of news items to get
to before we chat racing.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yes, yes there is.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And let's start it with one of the biggest ongoing
store where he's we've got a motor GP right now
and that is the Jogey Martin A Prillier saga. Yeah,
this goes on, doesn't it? Just mate? So this weekend,
Albert Vallera, Jogey Martin's manager, said on the live feed,

(11:18):
so to the world feed, this was all going out
live and apparently he'd asked to be interviewed on the
World feed, so he wanted this. This is the whole point.
This wasn't some journalist or one of the pundits there
had managed to get him, like he actively was looking
for this. But he said that Martin is still wanting
to get out of his contract and that Martin's camp
believes he is well within his rights to do so,

(11:41):
and that felt quite inflammatory at the time to come
from him like that he's going guns blaze in And
there was this amazing moment where you saw Jack Appleyard
and this was a shot from outside the A Prillier
pit box, and you could see Jack Appleyard inside the
A Prillier pit box chatting to someone and he was
clearly trying to get them to respond to this. And
then it popped up on the TV, like the little

(12:01):
quote box that appears, and Jack Appleyard to point at
a TV and the A Prillier guy looks up at
the TV and just looks shocked by what he's seeing
on there, like he had this is the first he
was hearing of it, and then there was a have
a chat and then it cut away. But then later
on Masimo Ravola hit back in an interview and he
was saying as far as the Prillier are concerned, Martin

(12:22):
will be riding for them next year, and if he
doesn't want to, they will go to court over it,
and they will take him to court over it unless
a Prettier can reach an agreement with whoever Martin wants
to ride for next year aka Honda.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, yeah, I saw this. I was like, ooh, it's
getting juicy. I like this bit. This added some spice
to the mix.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, it's quite a fun storyline.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's becoming very fun because finally we've got the perspective
of both camps in one day, you know. Yeah, we
finally had someone past the ball back and we've got
both to the equation, if you will. This is really
starting to spice up and I like it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, yeah, quite And that wasn't even the end of it,
which it got even better. Like there was a statement
made by Carmelo esper Letta saying that Moto GP would
not allow a rider to race for another team if
they are in breach of their original contract. Essentially, he
is threatening to pull Martin's entry should this not be satisfactorially,
satisfactorily resolved by the time next season starts. So if a.

(13:29):
Prillier and Honda are still fighting over who Martine's going
to ride for, and Martin rocks up to ride for
Honda Moto G. People will not allow him to ride.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
No, that's insane, but kind of right. At the same time,
you know, if somebody is in breach or has breached
to contract and it's all been ongoing to be sorted
out behind the scenes, it's not a good look. I
think this is a good move by Carmela to say,
you know, we will enforce the rules and you will

(13:58):
behave in a manner of respective of this sport. I
think that's a very good move on his part. Yeah,
because we've seen some dickish moves from both riders and
teams in the past, and you know.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think certainly one of the teams in the past,
we have been really critical of their behavior towards riders.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yes, exactly, we should riders ditched halfway through a season
just because somebody else has suddenly become available and they've
decided that he would be a bit of match. Yeah.
I really like this move from Carmela. I'm all all
for that. It's about some about the time someone came forward,
especially if someone has some clout like him had said, right, no,
this is enough. You're doing this by the book and

(14:38):
doing it properly. Does that's really good? Yeah, I'm all
for that one.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, me too. I thought it was quite cool. And
it's kind of Carmelo i think, going a bit putting
his foot down and being like, you guys need to
stop sucking about and just sort this out because we
are not putting up with this bad look for our championship.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, and it needs it. It needs it. There's a
way and of business mannerism to conduct things, because that's
it is essentially what this is. It is a business,
and you know there's a behavior to be.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Followed a procol Yeah, exactly, exactly. And this will keep
rumbling on for a while, I'm sure. And it's just
amazing to me how out in the open this is
playing out. And usually shit like this, I'm sure goes
on all the time. It's always behind closed doors. Yeah,
so we're getting to see it play out, which is
just fascinating.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah. We love it when stuff like this bubbles to
the surface because we always say, you know, we see
what race direction want us to see. As fans sitting
at home, we see what they want to show us,
and we know what this shit goes on behind the scenes. Contracts,
ebb and flow and things get battered across the tables
and in corporoms, if you will, We never see it.

(15:47):
It's always kept hush hushing behind closed doors. And when
it does every now and again, bubble to the surface
and we get to see it. It is fascinating and
we really enjoy it. It's a bit of drama. We
always say, oh, I hate gossip, do we fuck? We
love gossip?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I love a bit of gossip, mate, I love.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
It, especially when we start a rumor we have been
then to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I'm sure Liberty Media are licking their chops at
this drama because it's going to make a great storyline
going into their ownership of the series. And you know what,
Right to Survive will surely have a huge episode or
two about this drama.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah. I mean, if you could write a story book
for this one, you almost want the kind of one
person Romeo and Juliet kind of scenario, you know, Martine's
pain as the bad guy leaves the factory in a
bad way, gets an outside ride and suddenly becomes the
outside bet that ends up as the hero. Yeah, you know,

(16:52):
you could almost do a whole series across this and
his rise back to fortune and fame and thoughts.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah. Quite, it's going to.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Be up now.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I come with the tea boys.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm just I'm happy just to be a cleaner. I'm
not I don't even want to be a tea boy.
I'm just happy to hoover up in the wake of
the legends that exist. I'll just I'll just clean their shoes,
all of me.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, Martin, No, he and his return to action. So
we're still assuming Martin will be writing for a Pillar
at some point this year, probably, but yeah. Reportedly, he
was hoping to return to the fray in Saxon Ring,
but has been told by his medical team to delay
at least a week until Bruno. Although I am a

(17:47):
little skeptical about the timing here and the quotes from
two separate doctors, I'm gonna read the quotes out. So
doctor Annell Charte, I think is his name. He mot
Moto GP medical director. He said quote. Despite the notable progress,
some of the fractures have not yet fully consolidated. The
evolution is very positive and on this basis, it's two

(18:08):
more weeks and needed for complete healing end quote. While
doctor Haa mir the famous most to be hand surgeon,
and I think the previous medical director, I believe so
he said quote clinical progress is good with nearly a
full range of motion to the scaphoid right now, the
bone consolidation is not yet one hundred percent and the

(18:29):
healing process is progressing positively despite the repair not yet
being fully complete. Now, the language in these two quotes
is so similar. I know they're coming from doctors negatively
using similar words, but like it's so similar. Part of
me thinks that someone might have had a hand in
crafting these statements, And the conspiratorial part of me is saying,

(18:50):
maybe Martine is putting off his return to action.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
The skeptic Iberian wants to say, Nah, you know, they
are preferred and they're not going to do anything that
would challenge their reputation and being so high standing, and
if they are medical professionals, they're probably going to use
similar terminology. But then the cider give me is a

(19:15):
side fuck it, Yeah, he's paid them off.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, And I also want to say, hear they are
medical professionals that will let riders go out concussed and
with seleties and go and ride anyway, like they let
cowcrush and go out on the smashed ankle because he'll
be able to hop up and down on it fifteen times,
or something stupid like. They they're there are limits, they
think to what we can expect from motor GP doctors,

(19:39):
and they're not their professional conduct, because I do think
they are truly professionals and they are trying to do
best by the riders and by the sport. But yeah,
I think at times the line can get a bit blurred,
and I wouldn't be surprised if he had not. Someone's
been paid off, but someone's you know, been taken out
for a nice dinner and maybe been taken taken offered

(20:00):
a holiday somewhere. Come stay in my airbnb that Martine's
probably got in his garden and andorra.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah. Yeah, lines become blurred when you've been treated well
yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I've not been bribed.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They're just friends. Yeah, We're just friends who hadn't to
go on holiday together to a very nice I didn't
have to put my hand in.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
My wallet once, exactly. Yeah, I got to keep all
the receipts and I put it on expenses.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
So as a result, yeah, bonus.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
But yeah he's fit to ride, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's that.
I don't know. I'm feeling a little bit skeptical about
it all. But I think, but part of me wonders
whether I'm just trying to see the drama because I'm
just enjoying it so much.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. I think
as it unfolds and presses forward, I think we're all
we're looking for that angle. I think as we move
through sort of our podcasts and investigative journalism, if you will,
we'd like to dig a few holes.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, it's not investative journalism, is it. We just make
ship up as we go along. Steve, We're taking sugar coated.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
There's me being all big wordy and this team like, now,
fuck it, we just make shit.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah. I think it would do a disservice to real investigate.
I really struggle with that word investigative journalists. I think
about it wrong again, but whatever, it would do them
a disservice for us to claim that is what we
are doing.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Maybe, so, yes, this Jorge martine Zaga is just going
to roll on on on, and I wouldn't be surprised,
Steve if we get to Valencia and we still don't
know what the fuck is happening next year.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I am absolutely certain we will get almost through to
the end of this year and we won't have a
bloody clue what's going on. But it makes great viewing
for us, great listening, and it gives us something to
chat about, which is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
So we can go exactly that exactly, So let's move
it away from Martin for a little while. I want
to touch on this one last news item before we
start talking about the racing, and that is Michelin's new
front tire. Yes, so it was announced this weekend. What

(22:22):
we all suspected has finally been confirmed. Michelin will not
bring a new front tire for the last year of
their contract in twenty twenty six. Now they are citing
lack of testing and a lack of overwhelming rider support
for the new construction. It does seem like a small
majority of riders are liked this new construction, but not

(22:45):
enough to push Michelin to actually finish the development and
bring the new tire. So Michelin has shelfed the project,
and you know what, from their point of view, this
makes perfect sense to me. I wouldn't want to waste
the time, resources and bringing a new front if I
were them for one year when we know the contracts up.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, No, I wouldn't either, And I just don't blame them, really,
don't blame them. Why would you spend money on a
dead end project?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
As far as I see it, this is sort of
my major GP's fault across the board. They didn't force
the teams to test the new tire as they should
have done, and they haven't contractually obligated mission in to
bring new front tires when required, and that's kind of
a big problem here. Much like the Prilia Martine saga.
The illegal contracts here might actually be the problem.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I believe so, But I don't blame them at all.
But yeah, I think you're right. I think the legal
contracts are the problem, But the end of the day,
I think they're right. I know he's frozen again, Tinderweb yours,
Oh lost you again? I think we have. We're having

(23:57):
some glitchy movements and I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Apologies for that. We had a we'll call it a
minor Internet malfunction and an m I M for short.
But yeah, that was not great. I've swapped internet or
swapped networks hopefully now that we'll see us through. But
we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
We'll give it a whirl. We'll see how he goes.
So they've got you know, I was just rabbiting on
here in the background talking about you disappeared and did
some stuff. So the viewers are in all listeners, viewers.
I don't know there's any cameras in.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Here anything, So no, I think I'm the only viewer.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
You are the only viewer, well apart from the camera
set up upstairs for the Holy Fans fans, but that's
a different story.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, exactly. You've got to pay to get access to that.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh you have. Yeah, we'll give it another go.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, we're back in the room here. So I think
that kind of got us towards the end of a
Michelin there. That kind of cousted a new Steve. So
let's dive into the top five, shall we.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let's go for a buddy good stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So then Moto three, Steve, this was an absolutely classic
Moto three battle. They're going down these really fast straights
three or four wide and not straights. Isn't that straights Assen,
But you know through the kinky bit, not that kind
of kinky back down any fans they are, but they were.

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There was bikes everywhere, man, and I had absolutely no
idea who was going to take the win until the
race was over. There was just way to predict this.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, this really was an Assen classic. These guys really
kept us thrilled the entire race.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Quite so the top five in this one. Steve looked
like this. Fifth place well and help a care ass
Having not been on the podium since the reath Ana,
how is no longer looking like a solid title threat
at this point in the season. He seems to be
struggling a bit more to overtake than other riders. Well,
he don't usually manage to get moves done. They tend
to take him a little bit loer than they take

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other people at the moment. That said, he did qualify
quite far back in this race and make quite a
lot of progress, but it didn't seem easy progress.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, No, he did battle through. He had a good
race altogether. Blake say, there is something just not quite
enough in that package at the minute to really make
him a legitimate podium threat. Well he isn't. He is
a podium threat, but title threat. I guess that does
feel like it's slipping away, which is a shame because
he had a solid start of the season.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, quite, and he was my title favorite for the year.
But that seems to be just yeah, petering away now slowly.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, shame. James is a bloody good little rider. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Quite. Fourth place. Then in this one was Alvaro Carpe,
and Carpe led a bunch of laps in this race,
and the rookie has now pulled himself up to second
in the championship with this performance. He sits a single
point ahead of the Caras, but you know, a lot
of points back off his teammate Ruaida.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
He is a long way back, but he's still having
a solid season. Yeah, you can't knock him for that.
You had a good ride.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Quite third place. Then in this one Steve Valentin Paroni.
This was a cracking ride. And things are looking really
good for South American riders in the Moto three and
Moto two paddocks right now. Paroni is Argentinian.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes, yeah, they really are. It's good for that part
of the world, considering we'll be going there next year.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, well, I mean we've been to Argentina already, haven't
we this year? But we go to Brazil next year.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, so we get I assume we go to
Argentina again next year as well. I don't know that,
but I think we're getting two South American rounds, which
is only a good thing. It's a fucking massive continent.
Exactly second place then it's also worth nothing. Actually, Peroni
is in his rookie year and after three non scores
to start the season, he has been building towards this

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podium again kind of better and better results he's gone through.
So yeah, he's doing really well.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, he is having a very good season so far.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Second place in this one, then Steve David munyof and
Munnof may well have won this race if it hadn't
been for the ridiculously timed red flag.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeahful a bit.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, and to go on for the side note here,
this red flags up for everyone. This shouldn't have played
out this way. It should have been thrown at least
thirty seconds earlier than it was. If not straight away.
I mean, it looked pretty clear from the TV that
Luca Lonetta was going to be hurt. He was struck
by another bike. It was pretty clear to me as
soon as we saw that happened that this should be
a red flag. I was surprised they let it run on.
They did, but then they didn't even throw it when

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the riders got into the Vinal sector. They kind of
threw the red flag as the riders were breaking to
go into the corner where lucal Lenetta is down being
worked on by the doctors. Like, this was not a
good way to throw a flag.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
That really wasn't a misjudgment in timing, if you will,
for that one. It should have been thrown almost straight away,
so you know, like you said, it was very Obviouslynessa
was hurt, so it should have been thrown up straight away.
But this is the scenario that played out. Yeah, luckily

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Lintsa's all right. So that's the name.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
He's got broken leg, hasn't he So he's not that right.
But he's not that right.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
He's come away from it okay, considering he's.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Been after being hit by another bike, exactly a couple
of broken bones. Even if there's a bad break. Is
much better than it could have played.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Out, exactly. It did not look good to start with.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
No, not quite. But back to Minyof, this was another
really good race and he's finally showing the form I
thought he was going to have from the start of
the year. And if he'd managed these kind of performances
across those first five rounds, he'd probably be up fighting
for the title right now. Yah.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
So I think he's going to be very good. You know,
he's had a slow start to the season, but now
he's just there. But like you say, those first few
rounds have really impacted his title charge. Yeah, you know,
and unfortunately the title leader is winning everything at the minute.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah quite. I mean, actually, if you look at Munyot's
results right now, he's had over ten rounds, five DNFs,
one win, one sixth place, one fifth place, a second
and a third, so he's kind of covering the gambit
of top six is here. But it's those five non
scores in which he scored fastest laps and pole positions.

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Like it's not like he's been slow even then, but
he just couldn't keep it rotherside down.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
No, the boy is fond of the gravel trap.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah quite, and fond of other people's fairings.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yes that is true.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
But yeah, no, this was a really good race. And
like we said, like he's been steadily getting his shit together,
so I think we're going to see more of him
as this season progresses. It's it's a shame he's in
such a hole in a championship right now.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yes, that is very true.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
And then first place Steve our winner in this one,
the man that right now seems unstoppable, taking his sixth
win of the year, Jose Antonio Ruwaida, and he is
looking stronger and stronger as the season goes on. Right now,
no one is able to lay a glove on him.
This is the kind of dominance we saw from Alonso
last year.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it really is suddenly that this championship is just his.
And yeah, it's hard to look past anyone beating him
at the minute. So it doesn't seem to matter what
type of race it is. He can work it out.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Much like Alonso could. Like, it doesn't what happened, it's
just on the last few laps he's at the front.
Like he was mired down for some of this down
to the ball in the top ten, and then he
led a bunch of laps and then he dropped back
like five or six spots, and there was that great
on board with him where he just got absolutely mugged
in about three corners, dropped four or five spots, and yeah,
come the last few laps, he's back at the front

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and able to go exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
The guy just seemed very calm no matter what the
race froze at him, he seems to be able to
work out the scenario and foresee what he wants to
do through the next few laps and then yes, just
translate that into action, which is incredible. Yeah, another fantastic ride.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, he's having a really really impressive year. I suspect
he'll be in Moto two next year, probably riding the IOKTM.
I'd imagine you'd think so. But yeah, this is the
whole three race was just cracking, terrifying at times. The

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Lunetta crash was really scary and seeing another rider seeing
a rider hit by a bike is never good news.
But yeah, thankfully everyone may not have walked away, but
everyone was dragged out of the gravel, conscious and will
be okay in the future. Even if things seem a
bit shit and a bit rough right now.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, exactly they Yeah, whoa, that was a bit creepy.
M cheir. Then yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I thought that was internet dying again, but.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Then I realized that it's just much.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Sometimes if you don't move for a second, it's like
it builds up, you know when you get those really
quacky knees and are frozen. Are you there.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Moto too, then, Steve, Yes, this was a really fun
race to watch, even though the battle for the wind
didn't really kick off like I expected it to, the
fact that the two top runners were so close to
each other throughout the entire race was super cool, and
even though they weren't really fighting, I would glued to

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the screen.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it was just that following the leader kind of
what is going to happen? Yeah, because you know, the
going second just has so much pace and we're just
constantly threatening to overtake you like, is he going to
do it? Is he going to do it? Is he
going to do it? And it was that anticipation and
before you know, four or five laps are just real
laughing like whoa, hang on, Yeah, it properly kept you

(34:28):
sucked in. It was such a good, enthralling race without
a lot happening for much of the time. Yeah, yeah,
it was really bizarre, but crack into watch and.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I think that's part of it, isn't it. You don't
need all of the overtakes a lot of time for
it to be an entertending race. If like, the riders
are so close together and exactly it's constantly teasing you,
and it's like it's building. It's building, its building, like
it can that anticipation. It is amazing and it was
really fun that I really really enjoyed this one.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, it was good, mate.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So the top five in this one then Steve looked alike.
In this fifth place was Joe Roberts. This is wild.
It's nice to see Joe back up in the top five.
First time we've seen him there since he won in
Migello in twenty twenty four. This is his best results
since then. And hopefully this is the start of a

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return to form for Roberts.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I really hope so, because I do like Joe Roberts.
We need all the sport needs another variant attaining American
right up there, and Joe is a good guy. So yeah,
this is fantastic to see I didn't realize how long
it had been since his first top five place, No.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Need did I. I went back through all of his
results and I was like, God, he hasn't this is
the spect result of the year. I was like, that
could sort of makes sense and I was like, fuck
halfway through twenty twenty four since he's been in the
top five.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, it's the same, isn't it? Absolutely insane? But yeah,
he's finally done it, crack back in the top five.
So yeah, well done Joe.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, fourth place then Steve was Jake Dixon. And while
it's not been as long as it has been for.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Joe, this.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Is Dixon's best results since winning in Texas, So it's
nice to see him there waving the British flag. Back
in the top five once again.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, exactly, another one that's returning to the top steps,
or not top steps, top top five. Yeah, it still
feels like a long time for Jake. It's probably because
we're just britt fans we want to win everything. But
still nice to see him at the point end.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Quite.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
And it's the classic story though, isn't it. Of these
bloody boscoscuros right now?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, there's always one of them.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
In the biggs, but it's never the same one.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
No, you can always guarantee one will be pretty much
if not in the top five. But you just can't
tell who. And it doesn't seem no matter what happens
Friday or Saturday, come Sunday, God knows anything could happen.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, exactly, it's the boss say working it is that.
Then Steve brings us onto the podium. So third place
in this one was Manuel Gonzalez. Now, Mamuel had a
really poor start to the race, but was super quick

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at the end. It's such a shame for him that
he dropped so much time at the beginning, or he
would have been right in the battle for the win.
At the end of the race, he was much faster
than both the guys in front of him.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yep, that that poor start really hampered his rose. He did,
like you say, he did fight back, and he fought
back so well. He was so so quick at the end,
but that poor start really robbed him.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah. Yeah, And it was kind of just the poor
opening stages of the race where he just dropped back
and then it took him a long time to recover
that ground and regain those positions and try and recover
time on the top two.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, he was doing it. It just unfortunate the race
was over.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah. Quite another couple of laps though.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
And he'd have been right there, Oh he would.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
It's always the case, so it's always too little, too late. Yeah,
but that's racing. You know, X amount of lapse, x
amount of time and this is what you got. But
you can't take anything away from how quick he was
at the end. He was insanely fast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Quite, and that's kind of just the story of his season,
isn't it. So so quick?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
He has been exceptionally quick. Mate, He's so good.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
A second place then Steve in this one was Arrant Cannet.
Mister second place strikes again.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yes, yeah, back to his normal position, which feels probably
quite comfortable. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
He knows what the silver works like when he's holding
that trophy.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, he's Oh, this is familiar. It's not gold, it's
not bronze, it's silver.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, exactly. He just auto pilots himself to the second
place step on the podium.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah. I think they must have put the bike in
like some sort of mode. Chris l One for the
second place win.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Quite but he did a really good race. He wasn't
quite up to winning in the end, but finishing second
and ahead of Gonzalez did mean he falled blah blah blah.
Pulled a couple of points back in the championship, so
he now sits just five points off the championship lead.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yep, he's still keeping it alive somehow. These guys are
just keeping this championship battle teetering on a knife edge,
which is bloody fantastic and I hope it stays this
way right down to Valencia.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah. Quite, this is the best championship we've got right now.
As the three main classes like this, MOTI Championship is
the one where Gonzales does feel like the favorite, but
he's not a favorite like Mark Marquez or Jose Antonio
Rouaida a favorite. It's like he's it's yeah, it's going
to come down to who can make the least mistakes
in this second half of the year.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yep, that's one is going to come down to who
was it the most.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, exactly, And you know what, Aaron Cannitt's been in
a title fight before, hasn't, so there is a we
don't know how well pressure tested Gonzalez is going to
prove to be We know Aaron Cannett has been here
a long time now, so yeah, that could come to
his favor later on, but we'll just have to wait

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and see. And winning the race, Steve, After just missing
out on the winn Aragon and just missing the pum
in Migello, my man Diogo Morrera has finally taken his
first moto to win.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's been covered, it's been building, and finally he's got it.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, and right now I really think he is the
on form rider in the class. He is only thirty
one points back from Gonzales in the championship. It's far
from over in Moto too, and Morrera good could drag
himself into this title fight really good.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
If he carries on this run of form and with
the way the other two are tripping themselves up behind him,
he could well build over this over the next few
rounds and before we know it, we could come into
Valencia or the end of the season with a three
way battle for the championship, which would be incredible.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
It would be so good man. When's the last time
we saw a three way battle going into a championship
decider at the end of the year. It's gotta be
like Moto two in like twenty fourteen or something.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's gotta be something like that. It's a long time ago,
but so far this championship is kind of looking like
it could go that way. That's just fingers crossman.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
We get another one, yes, quite and yeah, and just
this race win like Morera shadowed Aaron Cannett for almost
the entire race, never making a move even though it
looked like he had the pace to do so. But
he was riding all of these different lines. He was
pulling all used alongside Cannett and the breaking zones, and
then it looked like just letting can It go again,

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like he was just trying to freak him out. It
was so good, and these two had a bit of
beef after Migello and yeah, it felt a bit like
Marrera might have been playing with Canet a little bit here.
And then it was only when Canett made that small
mistake and Diego went into the lead that he showed
how much pace he had by pulling away just enough

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to stop can It be able to make a strong
move into the chicane at the end of the final lap.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, that little twitch from Kennett is what did it sparked?
The overtake and everything else happened accordingly, But the whole
thing watching these to ride so so close together was enthralling.
It really was good because it looked at some points
that they were going to trip each other up. You
have to have a lot of trust in your fellow
riders to do that, but it kept us in the tone.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, quite mate, It was fascinating to watch. I loved it.
It was just so good. I loved it more because
Marrea managed to pull out his win and I've just
becoming a massive morea fanboy, but it was just getting
super cool. I really really enjoyed watching this race.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, that was one to watch that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Then, Oh, I'll tell you why. Actually, Steve, I did hear.
I didn't put this in the show notes, but I
did hear today. I was listening to Maybe the Race
one of the other podcasts anyway, and they were saying
on there that Canett had said that he actually let
Marera through so he could try and watch him and
then assumed he'd have the pace to snap back and
make the overtake just to see where Marrera was really strong.

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But then, yeah, it failed. To actually take the position back.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
If that's true, that is one of the what turned
out to be worst decisions of can it's made, you know,
we'll just follow shit, I can't, damn it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
My only thing there is I'm not sure I believe
it just because he did it with like two or
three laps to go. Like, I feel like, if you're
going to make that move, you're going to do it
with seven or eight laps to go. You've got time
to then fight back through. You're not leaving it to
a last corner move.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, exactly. I can't see that. I don't think that's true,
but it could be. It could well be, But I'm
going to go on the side of new Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Let's not forget though. This is the same Aaron Cannett who,
when asked this weekend about the office from World Suit
Bikes that he's reportedly had, he said something along the
lines of, yeah, I've got good officers in the World
super Bikes, so I could go there and win a
championship or win a new championships, or I could say
Emoto too and win a few championships. So man's got
confidence in his own believe.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, but you have to you have to have a
certain amount of arrogance, I think to race at this level.
So it's good to hear I think.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yes, I agree. I agree, So Steve, that's Moto two
and Moto three. They were both in thruling races and
I really want watching them. So let's dive in to
the Moto GP top fives.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Let's go for it, buddy.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
So the sprint race here top five in the spring
looked like this. A Fifth place was Peco Bagnaia. The
race I expected from Peco. He looked pretty good throughout practice,
but just did not get it together in the sprint.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
No, I don't think anyone expected this, but it was
becoming the norm of Peco's sprints. He's not loving them
this year at all.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
No, I mean he's not been their biggest vocal proponent
ever since they arrived. I mean last year he won
what like ten of them.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, he did have a handful. I think he changed
his tune then, but I think he might have gone
backwards this year.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, quite Yes, I'm not winning this so I don't
like it, yes, exactly. Fourth place then was Fabio dig
an Antonio. Another good weekend from digit coming off the
back of a podium Midyello. It feels like he's starting
to build into this season now.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah. Yeah, this really does feel like he's getting to
grips with that bike and he is now showing again
what we know is capable of. So yeah, yeah, another
good weekend, good race, good sprint race for Digiti.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, exactly. Third place Marco Bazeki on the A Prillia
a cracking result.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
We all know Marco is good around asen having one
here in the past, and we should have predicted the
Aprilia would be good here too, because it's a very
a Prillier circuit, but somehow it just completely slipped my
mind that this would be a beautiful combination. Yeah, as well,
it does feel like Mark's getting to grips with the
bike now after a few good results in a row.

(46:40):
Now it feels like that, you know, that betting in
period has gone. Now Marco, with all the bullshit that's
going on with Martin, is the center point of that
team right now and it's really coming together nicely.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, it really does feel like he has just settled
down now, just got it together, got it to grips,
and like you say, it's probably helped Martin not being there,
they can give him all the focus and they're clearly
doing that. It is paying off. Yeah, I don't know
number one rider thought next year.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yes, second place. Then in this one, Steve was you guessed.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
It, Alex Marquez, I've done it again. But in this
one he actually looked quicker than his brother. It's a
shame that he couldn't find a way through on Mark.
The problem was that everywhere Alex was faster, and he
was faster generally over the entire lap, but he made
all that time up in areas where you couldn't overtake,

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and there was no way for him to get past
Mark without it being a bit too close for comfort.
Now we know Alex is not averse to a bit
too close for comfort, as we would get to in
the Grand Prix, but he is a bit he He
doesn't like doing it to Mark, and it doesn't seem
like Mark cares that much about doing it to him.
But that's a bit of a sibling thing here. There's

(48:05):
some psychology going on here that's quite interesting. But yeah,
Alex wasn't quick enough in the sections that you can overtake,
to really make a move stick on Mark, or to
even attempt to move. Mark was just better in all
of the overtaking spots, especially on the breaks into that
final she can.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yes, he was frustrating, but like you say, he is
and there's been a lot of talk, was a lot
of talker the weekend of how he doesn't overtake Mark
like he does the others. Have we spoken about this
last week as well? I think that's normal. I think
that's completely normal. But there were you're right, clearly met

(48:46):
up a lot of corners where Alex was a lot quicker,
but like you say, they were in the points where
we generally don't overtake. So yeah, yeah, they're frustrating parts.
But again another bit of silk. Where to add to
the other silver wars? Yeah Canet of Motor GP.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yes, quite. And you know a solid fall of points?
Was that nine points of second place in a sprint?
So more points adding to his total and still scoring
everyone that isn't named Mark exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
The guy is having a phenomenal season.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah, quite, and then winning this one Steve, as we
have referenced already, was one Mark Marquez, and it's just
I've written the word yawn here in the show notes
is the only note on this win. But that is
doing a disservice to just how fucking good Mark Marquez
is a riding a motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, yes it is. I mean he didn't have it
all his own way. Alex was there with him quite
a lot for most of the race. So yeah, it's
get a little bit samey. But we are being treated
to a master class of motorcycle racing by a master,
so we shouldn't really knock it. But a bit more

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racy maybe would be appreciated for viewing. Yeah, we are
living another Marque's dominant season.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
But what you're going to do, well, quite, what are
you going to do? It's just I quite enjoy it.
I quite yeah, exactly, I quite enjoyed these moments of
dominance though that we see. I think they're quite special
to be living through. We look back at Mick Doing's

(50:43):
era and everyone's like, wow, Mick was so good, so good.
Mick Doing was winning races for like thirty seconds. No
one stood a chance at least. Mark is like making
it look like someone's got a chance at points. He's
not making that you're not doing the theatrics of Antino
Rossi and deliberately getting into battles and scraps. He does
has no intentional for losing, and that doesn't actually need
to be in but he's he's not running away with everything,

(51:05):
and we are going to look back at this period
and be like, this guy was potentially the best of
all time. Like we need to just try and enjoy it.
There's these when Mark was doing badly we were all like, oh,
it'd be so good to see Mark on a good bike.
Now we've got our wish. We've got Mark on a
good bike. Just fucking enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, this, yeah we should do. Really, we shouldn't bitch
of why we are living for a piece of history,
and we should. There's accolades to be one, there's prophy
is to be one. We all said, you know what,
do you have another title in him? And we're about
to find out.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, quite, we are about to find out. And I
think the answer is a clique.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yes, right now in time, it is already wrapped up,
but it's not over till what's the modern way of
putting it that persons?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I think you can probably still save the fat lady.
Things can't you. Is that not okay anymore?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Have no idea. I don't offend anyone.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
You could until the what's Spain famous for, it's not
over till the massador is Gorde or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I would like to say that I don't know, someone
off probably.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Not encouraging people being good. We've all see what's happened
with Bob Villain this weekend, and that's a story for
another day that road.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
For anyone who doesn't know we're on about google it.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah, great band though, great band, stand by that love them,
never heard of them? Oh great mate? Just yeah, two
kind of well, it's just two guys called Bobby Villain
and they're just a black punk band between the two
of them, and they're just so good normally and this
was very much their m O is just very angry,

(52:50):
as is all the best punk. But yeah, this was
on a new level.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
It was.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
It's hit the global now and I'm sure they're fucking
profiting off it and like nothing it will be more
power to him, yes, exactly. Anyway, the Grand Prix the
GP Buddy fifth place in this one, Steve was Maverick Vignalis.

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Mav is doing it again on the KTM.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
He is the man on that. Okay what I say,
he is the man. He is doing it consistently now,
and yeah, I'm starting to believe. Oh I do believe now,
I do believe. I believe he is back. He's got
grips with it. Whatever little problems and issues and niggles
there were, it seems like they're gone, which is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yes, quite Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing more
and more mav as. He just really wraps his head
around this bike at every circuit, and next year I'm
really excited to see what he can do once he's
had a year's experience on it as well.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah. Yeah, this is laying the foundation for twenty twenty
six very nicely.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, exactly, fourth place. Then in this one, Steve was
the man the KTM at Pedro Acosta. A solid result
for Pedro, equaling his best results of the year so far,
and really nice to see him properly involved in the scraps.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah. Yeah, this was good to see. It feels like
a costa that we're used to again. I'm really hoping
it is another case of he's finally sorted the bike
out and we're going to see more of what we know.
But we're a few races behind with Pedro, who let's
kind of keep the ball rolling. Let's get the Saxon

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ring and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, exactly, Third place then Steve in this one was
Peco Bagnia, and after the sprint I thought there was
no chance Peco gets on the box in this Grand Prix,
but I was happy to be proven wrong. I think
there were some collision that allow a notable collision which

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we'll come onto, that allowed him to get this their
step on the podium. But he was pretty fast at
the beginning of the race and managed to once again,
much like in Migello, be properly fighting at the front
for the first few laps, and then he just wasn't anymore,
and he really dropped for a while, actually being overtaken

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by a Coster as well, and dropped back to forth.
But then towards the end his place came back. He
did a Coster, he comfortably pulled a little gap there,
and yeah, it kind of seemed a little bit like
the Pecco of Olds. Now I don't think this is
a step in the right direction. I think still he's
completely lost the direction, but I do feel like he

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might know where the map and compass are, so he
might be able to start working out where the fuck
he is.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I hope. So it does feel like there's been
a little bit of improvement. I don't know something's missing
because his the entire he we see him run races
last year where the entire I don't know, twenty four laps,
we're within a few tents consistently, But at the minute

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he's so up and down, you know, he drops back,
then he's fast, then he drops back, and then he's
fast some I don't know. He's complained so much about
front field, you know, And is he overcooking that front
tire when he can just feel it a little bit?
Is he dropping back to cool the tire? I don't know.
I can't work it out. There's just there always seems

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to be something else.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
We thought we were led to believe or told it
was a little bit of a front breaking issue blah blah,
and become another race, and that seems to be something different.
So I don't know. I think he knows what he
wants and what he needs, but getting it is just
something completely different.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think he knows what
he wants and what he needs, but I think he
also might be now at the realization that he's not
getting those from this bike and it doesn't really matter
what they do unless you know, they start try something
really drastic and it just clicks and everything works. But
I guess as well, we've just come to two really
Peco friendly tracks Migello Assen, two of his best tracks

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since he's been a MOGP. So the fact he's has
only managed to score, you know, a couple of podiums
from these circuits isn't a good sign as we go
into track because they're going to be less Speco friendly
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, exactly, I'm fearful, but I don't want to write
him off just yet. I want to get closer to
the end of the season and then look back and think, God,
what the hell was that? Or fantastic? You know, he's
worked it out and he's built up the minute was
want to watch him round by round and just kind
of see where the issues are lying. Because him alone,
watching what's happening, it's quite fascinating. We know he's worth

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so much more than this.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, as far as writing him off, I've written him
off for this championship. There's no chance in my eyes,
he is currently fucking hell one hundred eleven and twenty
six points.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
That's yeah, too much in that back. So not with
the form of.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
One's big margin to try and overcome this is a
big margin, exactly. There's there's no chance that he's overturning
that he'd have to outscore Mark by more than ten
points per weekend right now going to happen. So no,
even what spark races, No, exactly. Hopefully though, this is
just so well, especially when Marks seems to be unstoppable

(58:33):
in fucking primt races. But yeah, hopefully this isn't the
Peko that we're just going to know now from now
on and the old Pecko is the think of the past.
Hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully we will move forward
and we'll in the future will look back on this
and be like, fuck, man, remember twenty twenty five, that
was a groom year for Peco.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, I don't want to think of it that way,
but it's started to shape up.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, second place in this one then, Steve Peco's VR
forty six Academy stable mate Marco Berzeki. Wow, just a
great weekend for Marco and an interesting weekend for a prillier.
There is a pattern here. The news about Martin kicks

(59:20):
off and Marco is like, whoa chew you beans, This
bike is banging, Look what I can do on it?
Like that does seem to be the pattern of behavior here.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
That does Yet every time something breaks with Martin, Butzeki's like,
look at me, I'm just going to do something to
just showcase my talent exactly, and he showcased it in
more than one way this weekend. You know, we have
a great result and then a bad little spill.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
This was hysterical, So yeah, for anyone that missed it.
Bazeki did crash out on the cool down lap, but
the reason he crashed is so wholesome and lovely that
I really can't hold it against him. So he took
an Italian flag from a marshall and was going to
ride around the circuit waving it, and then he realized
that this flag was full of riders' signatures and he

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didn't want to take that away from the marshal, so
he went to give it back and in doing so
fell off his bike.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Lovely gesture. Ten out of ten for nice, like one
out of ten for execution. Bless him. It's a lovely thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
It's a good story though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, it's a good story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Like if you if you're that marshal, you're there, You're like, fuck,
he's just taking my flag and then he gives it back.
That's a quite a cool story. Ozeki took my flag
and gave it back. But now the story is fuck
Bozeki took my flag and then he stacked it off
his bike giving it back to me. And this is
that flag and it's up in the living room.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Exactly. Clip is everywhere at the midnute, which is quite nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, you'd get one of the you know those moving
picture frames you can get what you can put videos on.
You just have the flag and then you'd have the
clip of Bozeki falling off giving the flag back underneath
it justum repeat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
That's one hundred cent what the Marshall's doing, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
And then Steve winning this race was Mark Marquees equalling
Yakamo Agustini for Premier Class. Premier Class wins at sixty eight.
Mark Marquez is on form one more win to overtake
Agastini to be the second winningest rider of all time

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in the Premier class, and then it's the road to
Rossi's eighty nine wins.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That's one hundred percent doable. Just settle at ninety and retire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, ninety three, you've got to stop. At ninety three,
you're gonna stop.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
That is the mark. Yeah, it's doable, Hundson, doable.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
It is. But it's still a lot, though, isn't it.
So he's still got twenty one more wins to do now.
I don't think he's going to win the next ten
How many rounds have we got left? Actually twelve rounds
left this year? I think twelve rounds for five, six, seven, eight,
nine to eleven twelve. So he's not going to win
all twelve of those, but if this pattern continues, he
may win six or seven of them, which would then

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bring him what to within He's going to need to
win another fourteen fifteen races in the rest of his career.
So yeah, it depends what the Ducati looks like next
year and how dominant he is compared to his teammate.
And then it comes down to what the twenty twenty
seven rules shakeup does for Mark Marquez. So it is doable,

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but it's not outside the rooms of possibility that he
doesn't make it. Well that yeah, there's a good chance
he can overtake Rossi, but it's still a good chance
he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm fully on board. I really am fully on board.
He's going to do it. He's going to stop at ninety.
I'm going to say it's ninety round. Number'll be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Stop at ninety with eight or GP championships, ten championships
in total, and yeah, on one more win, oh god,
Rossi will be fucking fuming.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Savage, absolutely savage. Yeah, I'll sit back watching Hope with glee.
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
How many wins does Marquez have overall I do in
all classes, and where does he fall on that list?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I absolutely have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Okay, I've got it up in front of me here.
So Mark Marquez has a total of ninety four wins. Obviously,
he won his ninety third in Migello Valentino. Rossi has
a total of one hundred and fifteen and Agastini has
a total of one hundred and twenty two. So Mark
Markuz has what twenty one total wins to go to

(01:04:02):
match Rossi? Oh my god, does he also have twenty one? Fuck?
He has twenty one total to go to match Rossi
in Premier class wins and total wins.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Oh there's another two.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Quite interesting, isn't it. That means they both won the
same amount in the lower classes, like exactly the same numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
That is interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I like it fun the people, isn't it. That's yeah,
that's pretty good. Yeah, this is gonna be really fun
to watch. If he does it, it's gonna be huge.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he will. I'd put money on it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
And once he's done that, mate, he's only seven wins
off Agustini's all time win records. That's not just in
the premier class. And let's not forget Agastini was a
guy that was racing in like three classes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
So exactly, it's doable, mate, I'm sure of it. I'm
sure it is doable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yeah, quite aye. Anyway, Steve, let's take quick break. When
we come back, we'll touch on a fair few Morjorpe
talking points, recap our predictions, and then wind it up there.
Good stuff, So guys to bear with us for just
one moment and we will be right back with you.

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Thank you for bearing with us again. We are back bladders,
RNT beers off full and touch wood. Internet connection seems reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
It does seem good. Yeah, that networks what has definitely worked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah, although you did just lotch out on me. Ah
now it's telling me my connections unstable. So that's fucking
typical time, I mean, too soon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
We'll bear with power through best foot forward and all
that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Exactly that. So let's dive in to a few talking
points from the race. First stop Steve for the Sunday race,
Yamaha's special liveries. So how did you feel about these?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Sexy as hell? Loved it? Lovely tribute to the Harger
World Superbike livery that he ran as well? Is that
what it was? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Okay, okay, good because I missed all of this. I
kind of looked at it. I was like, that's nice,
but I didn't know what it was or where it
came from.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
If you quickly google search who we are nor A Yuki,
if you know how to spell it, I can probably
work it out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Nor Reuki Harger Yaha, let speak a livery.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
You should see it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Oh, yes, I do see it. Okay, that makes some
more sense now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yep, yes, it was a throwbag sort of touching esk
on that one while he ran the R seven.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, okay, no that makes sense. But yeah, it was
a nice looking machine. I quite liked it. My problem
with it this weekend was that because I it was
white and b there were fucking four of them that
all looked almost exactly the same. I really struggled to
differentiate between the ELR bikes and the amhars because I

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thought they looked a lot like the Idamitsu bike. But
then I kept seeing them higher up the order than
I expected to see. Chanter Us I was like, Zarko,
what the fuck is Zarka? Like? I was like, but
there's no there's Zarka that. I was like, there's fucking
five Zarkos on this grid. I don't know what was
happening here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It was very similar. It was from me a case
of pick out the lid and memorize it. I just
live by the time in tower. That's all I went by.
It looked fantastic, Don't get me wrong, it was beautiful.
Stood still that definitely needs releasing on an R one

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road bike. Oh yeah, it has to be. I'm sure
they will and people will snap them up. It did
look fantastic. I really enjoyed it, but it was a
little bit hard to differentiate between the riders on track.
But yeah, we love a special never going to turn
down special livery. So it's just a small price to pay.

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And the time in towers there keep us. You know,
you can live by that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
That's fair. It's funny, isn't it. Actually. I feel like
I love special liveries. I just think they're amazing. I
love having them. I think they should be the teams
should be mandated to do it once or twice a year.
I just think they're amazing. But all I do is
complain about them. But then when they appear, I'm like
that app I couldn't tell who was who and I
would just have a good mood. But no, I do
like him in general. I think they're super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, I do really like him. And they're a good
money spinner for a factory as well, because you can
translate them into special road bikes and you know, people
do suck them up. They are collectors on them essentially.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I did see a Pramac was it Pana Guy one
of the supers nice in Norwich not so long ago,
and my god, was that fantastic? But you're thinking that's
probably one of only a thousand made, and you're thinking
someone's bought that and it's rightfully riding it. Too many
people will buy him and hide them away, and yeah,

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good on him for riding it or her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I always love it when you see like a race
liveried bike just out on the street. I love it
when you see and I really like it when they're
ridiculous spikes. I love it in Asia when you see
a repsole like a Honda Repsole branded like scooter, that
is amazing. I love it when they're just ridiculous machines.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah, it's got to be done, it needs to be done.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Yeah, quite. I remember seeing a lot of air Rocks
when Yah, the air Rocks. I don't know if they
still do, but like the movie Star branded air Rocks
is just flying about. Wow, one mate, I remember when
I had in my head all I wanted was an
air Rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah. Everyone did, absolutely everyone did. And you do see
him every now and again. You see one flashing around,
you're like, ooh, what's exy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Yeah, my brother ended up with one that had a
big ball kit. So it was a seventiesc It was
a really quick little machine. Yeah, it was good. Used
to sixty five easy, which was great. A little scooter
was terrifying but great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, most of them are absolutely likes to ride, but
yeah fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yeah exactly, those little wheels are not designed to go
that quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Over riding to the point of it's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Yeah, exactly. Speaking of overriding to the point it's dangerous,
Steve Alex Marquez's crash and injury in the main race here, Now,
this racing was fun to watch between Alex and Pedro Costa,
just that they're properly leaning on each other. They were

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rubbing fairings, but it all kind of all seemed fair
in love and war. It didn't feel like either one
of them had gone over the limit. They were at
the limit. Absolutely, they were touching, they were brushing each other.
They've yeah, they got some scuffs, but it was properly
fun to watch. It was really good and they both
kept it like legal, like it was cool. But then

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the final innocuous collision that happened and Alex Marquez is
front where all locked up and he went down hard
and broke down, broke a bone, in his left hand.
He flew straight to Madrid, no no scaping to Meta
carpl Yeah, which is I think the bone for your

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middle finger that is actually in the hand. So he
flew straight to Madrid for surgery. But his participation in
Saxon Ring is currently unconfirmed. And even if he does
make it, a truck with so many left hand turns
is going to be pretty painful.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yeah, that boy's gonna need some pain killers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Yeah, quite And the crash itself was quite a weird one.
It's quite interesting now. I've gone back and watched this
footage quite a few times because from what I thought originally,
it was that Alex got his front brake lever caught
on a Costa's knee during the tussle, and that locked
his front wheel and sent it down. And I think
his wheel was slightly in the air at the time
because it was just in the change of direction. So

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the front brake, you don't have to put much pressure
on it if the front wheel off the ground to
stop the front wheel, and then as soon as the
front wheel comes down locked, that's it. Boom. He was gone.
But there are a number of different reports on how
this happened. Some people are that it was a Costa's bomb,
his arrow, his seat unit that hit the brake lever.
I'm convinced it was his knee, but at the end

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of the day, it really doesn't matter whatever actually happened,
it was. I found it very frustrating that the commentators
of the world feeds took so long to notice. But
you know, at the same time, they're looking at their notes,
they're looking at the screen, they're looking at separate timing screens,
They're looking at quite a lot at once. And it
was absolutely a racing incidant. I don't think anyone was
at fault here. Both were going at it really, really hard,

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and it's just one of those things. Shit sometimes just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Happens, literally that if you're going to ride this close,
at some point it's going to go down. Something's going
to happen, and yeah, this is just one of those
unfortunate incidents. A Costa touched this brake lever and down
he went. You know, Unfortunately, he's got a broken hand,
he's had it, he's had surgeries today. I did see

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on socials that he's out about and is up and
there's a little picture I do believe on here is
instagram of it, so okay, yeah, it's just a little
teary tiny operations. So yeah, hopefully we'll see him back
and sex and ring. But like you says, a crack

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with such harsh left hand corners that it's gonna hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah, it's gonna hurt. It's a funny thing as well,
isn't it, Because it's probably not a big break. If
this was your eye, we'd just be like a hand
would just be strapped up for a few weeks and
then they just needed to heal. But like, because these
guys need it strong and he'll properly straight away, they
take me in for surgery. If this was average jail,
I don't think this would be surgery. But as he
is a rider and he's gonna end up with a
nice scar in his hand from it, which arguably is

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worth it. Okay, So up next, Steve, is what I'm
calling the Quatateao conundrum, taking a leaf out of the
Motor GP playbook here and going with almost illiteration but
not quite not enough to get in trouble, no exactly.

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It's getting quite frustrating now how quick Fabio is in
qualifying taking another pole position in Assen his fourth year.
He's the only rider not named mar Marquez the score
pole this year, which is wild. But once again in
race his result left a lot to be desired. Yamaha
really need to sort this out. Fabia crashed out of
the sprint while battling. We did eat and finish tenth

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in the Grand Prix. Are thinking caught out by a
crash ahead of him, arguably not his fault in the
Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, whatever has happened with a Fabio. His one lap
pace is blistering. Like you say, he's the only person
apart from Mark the season at score pole positions, which
is fantastic because an accolades on its own. It shows
how quick that bike is at one lap pace. But
for whatever reason race pace, I think it's rhythm. I'm
sure it's rhythm. If he can hook this thing up

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and was at the front, he'd lorenzo it all day long.
He'd be gone. Yeah, because he's fast. He just can't
ride at how he wants it when he's in a
pack because he can't run that thing quick and smooth.
So Yamaha really needs to sort this out big time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, absolutely, And I mean we saw in silverstone, like
if he gets at the gap of the front, he's
able to maintain a gap and pull a gap and
get bigger and bigger, and he could arguably when racist,
he's just not capable of doing that when he's surrounded
by caddies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
No, he needs a clear track. So unfortunately, there's still
it's improving, don't get me wrong, it's massively improving because
last year there's no way in hell you would have
ever said he was going to have a pole position.
So that the improvements, big improvements have been made, but
there's far more that needs to be done yet. I

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think you have from maybe there's absolutely I believe, or
on a delay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Okay, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, we've just got massive lag now and delay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
We've got for well, we'll try and work our way
through it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yes, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Okay, So next up, then those Mark Marquez crashes. Mark
took two heavy falls on Friday. The first looked horrendous,
but the second was really a kick in the balls.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
That second one. Every man, every every everyone around the
world with a certain nuts grimaced. We felt it. It's
a pain that transcends time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
If you're male, mate, it was that moment where honestly,
you've watched him stand up and I initially thought he
was concussed with the way the camera cut to him
and he was being helped off the grid or helped
out of the gravel trap, and I was like, oh shit,
if he's hit his head hard here, there is no
way he's running tomorrow. And then we saw the clip
of it where he stands up and goes to take

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a few steps and then grabs his crotch and hits
the floor and You're like, oh, no, Mark, that's worse
than a concussion, just wild. And the fact that he
just kept for the rest of the day and even
on the Saturday, he was just like pulling his leathers
out and just moving it about and oh, it looked horrendous.

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And he ended up going to going to the medical
center and getting checked out. I think so so lucky.
Doctor got to really get a handful of Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
A handful of Twigg and Googleberry markers. Yeah, that doctor
was like, what's the problem is that your elbow your
color bone? No, it is a little markers. And we're
not talking about Alex either. That is I'm so unfortunate.
You see if hobble away and you're thinking, yeah, missus

(01:18:48):
Marquers ain't getting hold of them nuts tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
No exactly, poor fellow quite But what's amazing, though, is
this goes to show, doesn't it, that Marquez is still
capable of beating himself up and the only way he
loses this title is through his own crashes, because even

(01:19:12):
after he's tried to castrate himself in the gravel trap,
he has so much in hand he's able to win
the next two races anyway. Like Mark has just got
so much over the rest of the field.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Yeah, hears leaps and bounds about the rest at the minute.
And he ended up with the stitch as well, didn't
it in his tune?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
It was it a stitch because I saw he had
like in the I saw he had like I have
thought it was just a cut from where the graveler
got up in the rest. It was a stitch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
But okay, yeah, there's a clip when they're in the
car getting transported back, you know, the three of them
get in the back of the car now and he's
talking to Azki and he's showing him. He's like, yeah,
he's got a stitch.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Okay, just a fucking machine. Mate. He's just so good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
He is unbelievable. Greatest of all time mate.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Okay, so see, let's finish up here before my internet dies.
We'll just quickly dive into Rookie. We'll recap our predictions,
and then we will finish the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
There's given a while. Let' see if we can last.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Quite, That's what I say to all the ladies. So ye,
Rookie watch Steve song Ki. Chantra scored his first Moto
GP point in fifteenth place. Yes, Chantra, you're the favorite.
The Big Grin was back. Chantra is rocking it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
He is Finally.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Does that mean hang on, I'm going to drag this out?
Has he dragged? He has? He's dragged himself up from
the bottom of the table. He's now twenty fourth, ahead
of Juae Martina, four People and Elisia Spargo.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Well, at least he's head of a couple of decent riders.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Yeah quite, Yeah, so that's good. He's no longer last.
He's scored a point. Things are looking up for the
tie rider. No, things are not looking up for his compatriots,
and they're not actually compatriots, are they, But for his
pal i Agora I was left in the gravel after
an opening lap collision between himself and Miguel Olavera, who

(01:21:13):
had just bounced off the back of Chack Miller. Actually
I was the only rider to crash, but Alex Rinz
also had to take avoiding action which sent him right
to the back of the grid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
That was a bit of a mangled kind of situation.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, and I also had that massive crash and was
its Friday or Saturday, think it was Friday, where he
a bike off after it blew up. It was quite
a literally good one to watch, actually, yeah exactly, as
the fireballs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Yeah, mechanics were like, well we're not saving that, We'll
get some spares out the massive a Prelier truck.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah exactly. I imagine the mechanics went, well, fuck, there's
arrowly night in the pub today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Yep, out the window. We'll be staying here all night.
Get the coffee pot on, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
And lastly, here Fermin Aldergare Furman had a wicked high
side that left his bike in the middle of the track.
He was out of the race. Fabios Dray had to
take avoiding spots, but mir Mir wasn't so lucky. He
hit Furmin's bike and launched himself over the handlebars. He
said that he felt okay, but a bit battered and

(01:22:20):
bruised and was going for a medical checkup when he
got home.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I'll bet he felt bad and bruised. Blessing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, Mirror is on just a poor run, isn't he.
If he's not crashing himself, other people are crashing for him.
It says that is his sixth DNF from ten rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Good God. Yeah, does not go well bless him?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
No quite. He got thirty two points total on the year.
So yeah, things are not going well over at Honda
for you and Miir right now. But then that seems
to be the story of your Amir Honda to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
That does I think it's time for a bailout?

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Yeah, I think it might be. But fuck man, where
does he go? Like his stock is through the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
I know it'll be hard, it'll be tough, but I'm
sure he'll be He'll be okay super Bikes, I'm sure
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Maybe after this contract cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I'm almost certain of it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
That. Then, Steve does bring us to the end of
the main bulk of the show here. We'll just recap
our predictions and then we will sign off. I've realized
as well, I've been very sweary tonight. I don't really
know why. I've only had one beer and I've just
effort and blinding. So I apologize for anyone that tries, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
You've got this podcast on dad, it was fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
I mean, yeah, no, I've just been a bit sweary
all day. I'm just having one of those days where
I just it just casually drops. You don't meet Steve.
I'm a bit of a swearer anyway. It just I
apologize if it's been a bit too much for anyone tonight,
But well done forgetting this far. If that's you, if
you've been offended and you've still got to the end
of the show, were almost wearing and all the glitching Internet, congratulations,

(01:23:59):
well done, prizes, but thank you exactly so recapping our
predictions then, Steve for anyone new who has got to
the end through all of that, Steve and I make
predictions for every race weekend for the Sprint Ankirl pre podiums,
and we give ourselves points if we get riders in
the right positions, So it's three points for a rider
in the correct position, one point if a rider is

(01:24:21):
on the podium in the incorrect position, and we've got
a little tally going of our personal championship right now
between Steve and I. So the actual result for the sprint,
Steve looked like this. It was Mark Marquez winning the race,
Alex Marquez was second, Mark Oberzeki was third. I predicted
and Mark Marcus an, Alex Mark second, and bag Nia third.

(01:24:43):
So I take six points there, three points for Alex
and Mark in the correct positions. For Peco you predicted
exactly theme, so you also got six points, so that
was nice and easy. In the In the Grand Prix,
the actual result was a mart Marquez win, Marco Berzeki second,

(01:25:04):
and a peckerback Nine third. I predicted a Markus win
and Alex Marquez second and a Mafic vignale Is third.
Given me three points for Mark in the correct position
and nothing for the other two. You predicted a mart
Marquez win, a peckerbag Nia second, and Alex Marquez third.
You scored four points, three points for Mark in the
right position, Peco on the podium in the incorrect position,

(01:25:26):
and you have outscored me once against. You've taken a
tot of ten points to my nine. Overall, now I
am on eighty points, you are on eighty seven. The
gap is opening up at the front between us, but
it's only going to take one good race in for
the to either be sealed or for me to come
back into the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
It's still to play for buddy. We've got twelve rounds
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
This is a long way to go yet, there's plenty
of time. There's plenty of time, and Steve, we won't
touch on it this week. We'll do it next week.
But there's also plenty of time for you in the
fantasy league to catch up with me again.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Thank you for reminding me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
You did you did? We were so close together for
before this weekend. It was super close. But yeah, it's
opened up a little bit now between us. But we
will We will talk about that probably next week.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
You can gloat about that next week.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Thank you. I will do my best. It doesn't It
doesn't say much for me to be gloating, mate, So then, Steve,
that does wrap us up for this show. I think
that I have got a big edit session ahead of
me tomorrow morning. First thing, as I try and to
get this glitched out internet problem into some form of

(01:26:46):
decent show. So if you're listening and you liked it,
then I've done a great job. If you're listening and
you hated it, then I did a terrible job. Either way,
you got to the end, so well done.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yes, thank you for bearing with us exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
So, guys, if you have any questions, any comments, anything
you want to say to us at all, you can find.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Us on We are for the love of motor GP.
I'm going to ditch the Twitter bit because I really
can't be bothered with that. So we are for the
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and Facebook. Come and join the Facebook community. We've had
a bunch more people during it's been chatty. Mark was
fantastic at the weekend for us all sorts of info
from us and which was fantastic. Thank you, buddy. And

(01:27:29):
if anything else for us, any correction corners because we
haven't had any of those for a while unless Tim's
sort of correction cornered himself. Absolutely, anything else you wants
to chat about, any points do you want to put
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Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
In this show.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Steve and I, we've pretty much given you appo little opinions.
I told you I support villain. Steve told you he's
no longer using Twitter. That's all you need to know,
so stay safe and look after each other. We will
speak to you next week with our Saxon Ring preview.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Goodbye, take care guys.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Music is by Andrew Greenwood. Thanks for listening. Goodbye,

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