Motegi 2025 MotoGP Race Preview – Time to seal the deal - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Steve my good man, How the devil are you?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm good, buddy, how are you? That's nasty.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm very good, my friend, I am very good. I'm
very impressed that it looks like you're drinking a pink
sparkling wine right now.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, I am.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Wow. This podcast has just got classy af.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It has, mate. I'm on the sparking. I believe it's
called I don't know, really know what's called it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Some I've heard that word before somewhere. It's probably relevant.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think it's what it says on the ball Sarah's
birthday sparkling wine. It's pretty dry, but it's drinkable.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Nice. I like a dry wine, man, I like a
dry wine. I like all wine. I think I just
like alcohol.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Actually, to be fair, I'm just going to say, I
think it's just the alcohol based drinks that you like.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, give me any mind altering sobsence and on there.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah. Yeah, this stuff is fairly bubbly. I'm pretty sure
it's going to get my head, so we have to
walk it down with some juice. It's going to be
a fun podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Wow, you're having to chase your wine with black currant
and apple squash.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Pretty much, Yes, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Nice. Well, I'm on the classic Scottish Foster's aka Tenants
once again.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Nice nice buddy, keeping it.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You'll bring in the class. I'm like the me in
the front door.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know. This is fairly bubbly. I think by
the end of this podcast it might be the refraff.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You'd be thrown up in a bucket before we get
to predictions.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, it would be like that embarrassing uncle, but
embarrassing dead at the wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
This reality is I'm normally that embarrassing uncle.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, and I'm normally embarrassing dead. Enzo is hiding in
the corner. Don't dance, dead, please, don't dance.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Last time I went to a wedding, I lost one
of my siblings and I was like, where the fuck
is he gone? The last way they went to in
the UK not lasting and it doesn't that a wedding,
and where the fuck is Peter gone? I couldn't find
him anywhere, and I went to Mum, you're a Peterish
but no, we've been looking for him. I was like, oh,
for fox sake, and all the way through the wedding
ceremony he was just like sipping a Hiplaska vodka. So

(02:16):
he'd been drinking all day and I was like, I'm
going to find him. And you know what it's like.
We're in a big old hotel. I'm stumbling around, pissed,
just going into various common rooms and things. And then
I got into the dining room and I could just
see his feet sticking out from under a table. I
was like, well, shit, yeah, he just passed out. He
asked for ten more minutes, and he's like, can you

(02:37):
come back in ten minutes And I was like, yeah, okay,
So going back in ten minutes with a glass of water,
and he just straight up straight to the bar.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
He was well, aw, yeah, sometimes he needs a little break.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah. Quite. It was impressive. But anyway, Steve, this is
a motor GP podcast, not Tim's family's drunken ANTIC's podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, sometimes are drunken tangents are the best.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That they are, my friend that they are. But we
do have some Moto GP stuff to talk about, a
couple of news items, a few news things to talk about,
and then we'll have a bit of a chat about
what we're looking for in MATEGI.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yes, Bud, we can do that.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Excellent let's dive into it, then, shall we.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Let's go for it, buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Excellent. So I'm Tim, he's Steve, and this is for
the love of Moto GP. If you are new to
the show, welcome. If you are returning, welcome back. This

(03:46):
is for the love of Moto GP, the show where
Steve and I sit down with a couple of drinks
and talk about Moto GP like we would in the pub.
Save the look on your face right now suggests that
that wine really is not pleasant. And you've got a
fucking goblet full of it there that ain't know, like
large wine glass, that's like half a bottle glass.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I think it's half a bottle.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Nice. And you haven't, well from what I can see, drunk,
maybe a finger from the top of it, and by
it already forget through.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'll make it work, We'll work with it. I'm mother,
didn't raise no quier.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm on it. Excellent.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Draw your ass up to your elbows.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I tell you, Jesus, it's every time you take a swig,
it's like your entire face just shrinks into a tiny
black hole where your noses. It's quite impressive.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's it's rather sharp. Let's put that away. It was
growing on me, but that could just be the bubbles.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, well that's to be fair mate. If it's a
strong enough wine, you only need a few SIPs and
back up with the alcohols hit and then it taste delicious.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah yeah, it might be dancing by the end of
this podcast, we'll see by the eye.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well before the terrible disco music starts, Steve, let's dive
into the news, shall we.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Let's go for a buddy excellent.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So first up here, Steve as a reward for his
amazing season, Alex Marquez will be riding a GP twenty
six next year.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
He certainly will, Buddy, Yeah, deserve reward as well. The
supports had a fantastic season.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes quite, he's just well, i mean second in the
championship right now, one of two people to have won
more than one race this year. Like, he's just what
a season, what a season he's had. And yes, next
year will be the GP twenty six, and given what
the GP twenty five has been like, I'm sure it's

(05:48):
quite the relief for the younger Marquez brother that he
won't be on a year old to catty next year.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure. He's going to be relieved
about this. I'm sure the twenty six won't be with it.
It's problems the Chickaties normally are at the start of
the season. There's no reason ironing out bugs to work
out the system. But I'm pretty sure if he's working
alongside his brother, they'll sort it out pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I'm sure I will. And and like you say, well,
I mean we don't actually know what the GP twenty
six is going to be next year. You say it
might be pad problems, it might be a bit finicky
at the start, but we know Jakati can't actually update
or change the engine from the GP twenty five, so
I've got to use the GP twenty five engine or

(06:37):
the GP twenty four engine. Yes, I would not be
surprised if they just fully recommit to the GP twenty four,
give it a couple of updates and call it a
GP twenty six.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm with you on that one. I think make it
a bit more user friendly because everyone's been very outspoken
on how the engine from the twenty four was a
lot easier to get on with than the twenty five,
So I think you could see some kind of amalgamation
between the two four.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't think they're allowed to. I think they have
to use either the GP twenty five engine they've got
now or the GP twenty four engine they've got now.
I don't think they're asked you any changes to the engines.
Next year they have to use one. It's molligated.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh yeah, I'll have to be homologated. But in that
kind of GP twenty six chassis with its updates.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so the engine, I imagine it
will be a GP twenty four engine. Maybe they'll change
the chassis a little bit. But they might not. Man,
they might just fully lean into just giving all of
their riders the best, fully up to date GP twenty
four and just call it the GP twenty six.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Maybe we'll have to just see what they've run out
and until we get some kind of classification from j
K probably what the tests, maybe early next year. Yeah,
we won't have a clue of what it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, and actually they won't tell us, man, even if
it's a GP twenty four, they're never going to tell anyone.
We'll hear rumblings about it, but they'll never be confirmation
they've reverted last year.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
No, absolutely not. It will be a very well kept
in house secret. Yeah, so yeah like that.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
It would be just gg and Peco will be the
only see people that know.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah literally literally that. So yeah, four factory bikes on
the grid next year will be.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, this again begs an interesting question, Steve, because obviously
the two factory riders will have a GP twenty six
Fermin Aldergarez contract. Well, Alex Marquez is definitely going to
have a GP twenty six YEP Fermin Aldergarez contract says
that for his first year Eromoto GP he was to

(08:37):
ride a year old machine the GP twenty four is
riding this year, and for his second Euromoto GP he
would have an up to date to Catty, so he
will also be on a GP twenty six in theory,
which then begged the question here, what happens to the
forty six YEA, Well, we know Faber dig Antonio is
guaranteed a GP twenty six next year. In theory, then

(08:59):
there's only one GPT twenty five. But go to Frankie
more Delhi and there is no way to Catty bother
with that, do CARTI are just going to make six
GP twenty six is, I think, and everyone is going
to be on GP twenty six for the last year
of these REGs.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that'd be the way. Why bother,
you might as well just blanket the whole thing. And
everyone's on spec bikes, so it makes perfect sense. Less
parts to carry less logistics, everyone gets the same and yeah,
no one can grumble either. There's no one can turn
and say, oh, I didn't have a great season because

(09:32):
I didn't have the up to date machinery bullshit.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Instead they'll be saying I didn't have a great season
because I'm not my markets.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, basically they'll be so excuse coming up. But if
they're all on the same machinery, they're singing from the
same hymn sheet.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes exactly, there's less and do you know, six riders
to develop the bike as well, which is handy.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, exactly, more bums on seats riding the same machinery,
more data.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, you know, if you Catty
had because obviously they've only got three current year bikes
this year, but if they had four like in previous years.
Part of me wonders, you know, whether they're looking at
that and wondering if we had four, maybe we'd have
the day and the GP twenty five would be amazing
in everyone's hands.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, yeah, it could have been. It could have been
a reason for doing it. A slightly sidelining, you know,
with Alex's good results was enough to push them into
thinking that. So, yeah, I think we'll have to wait
and see. You see what they come up with. Get
some kind of like you say, rumblings out of the panic.
Somebody will dig something out of somewhere, and yeah, get
an idea of what it is. But yeah, I think

(10:35):
they'll just blanket everyone with the same same machine.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah I think so too. And speaking of we'll see
what they come up with, Steve, I came up with
the conspiracy because I love a Doucatti based conspiracy. Yeah,
so here it is, go for it. Peckerbag Nia wants
his old bike back, but he knows he can't have
that while in the factory team, so he begged gg
Delinea to let him drop down to a SATURD like

(11:00):
team for a year, maybe VR forty six. Digg. He
is out of VR forty six. He's heading back over
to Krossini to ride alongside fermin Aldagare and Alex Marquez
is going to the factory squad to ride a current
year machine alongside his brother, leaving Peco and Frankie both
riding GP twenty four's at VR forty six.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know what, I think, that's perfectly feasible.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I wish it was. I have already destroyed that by
saying all of the people are guarantee GP twenty six
this year. But I kind of liked the idea of
you being right that you are sure Peko is going
to leave Dukati, and also me being right and saying
he's not going to leave Ducati because he's just leaving
the Jacassi team. So I kind of liked just that

(11:44):
I was thinking about it, and that's what I want
the reality to be. And sometime last year I made
up a conspiracy very similar about Mark Marquez or no
year before sorry, about Mark Marquez going to Grassini, and
that was just one of these off the But wow,
wouldn't that be fun? So I'm I'm manifesting it, Steve.
That's what I'm doing. I'm manifesting.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You're burning little love letters under candles to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Actually, Mate, I've been out sacrificing lambs and everything. Oh,
don't tell the local farmers.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was going to say, they were all up in
the hills at the minute of shotguns looking for the beast.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And exactly I blamed the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, definitely blame the Eagles, bloody condors.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, but yes, I don't actually think that's going to happen,
but it would be fun if he did.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well, sorry, that was terrible podcasting. We both took a
swig at the same time. Steve's nearly came out of
his nose and that, of course mine had nearly come
out of my nose. So I can only apologize for
that moment of the unprofessionalism from us both.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, well, sometimes these things happen, you know. Well, that
was a big slug and this stuff is sharp, man.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And it really still doesn't look like you've drunk anything. No,
I know, this is still got a lot of so
much right now.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's the hell of the gold. I didn't. I looked
at it. I pulled Sarah and glass. She covered the bottle.
She said, you know, we'll have a milli celebration because
we have we can use and we'll open this and
I looked at it. I thought, well, I don't want
to get up too many times for the podcast. I'll
pull myself a big glass. And you know when you
do things and then you look back out, you think
it's a very bad idea. This is one of those.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Time I drink dead relative alcohol, Steve, I have that.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Moment you know you're dead relatives.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
A cool yeah, but he does that. That wine glass
looks like a base.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's pretty much a bas Yeah. I'll take a picture
for everyone at home to enjoy. And because it is huge,
it's bigger than mic. Look. Yeah, well do things by
house down here as farmer Bolly.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
What we do. But it's half bottle at a time, right, Okay,
you went a bit froggy there, so let's move it on.
Next up, Steve, the Moto GP Hall of Fame. Now
we didn't touch on this last week, but over the
Mazano weekend, MotoGP launched the official Moto GP Hall of Fame.

(14:14):
But don't MotoGP already have a hall of Fame, I
hear you ask, Steve. Yes, they do, the Moto GP
Legends Hall of Fame. So the new Hall of Fame
is essentially a massive waste of time.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I yeah, when I saw this, I saw because they
had a big gala. I saw the pictures of it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Everyone's the wankiest thing.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It reminded me of one of those great I want
to say cult. It's not cult like frat boy, bloody
underground secret societies. You know, the elite of the elite.
But if you want the ring, you've got to be
in the big Boys club.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
You've got a bit of penis in a dead pig's
mouth or something. Sorry, that's not just a random grotesque reference.
That was a Daily Cameron reference. Probably save that for
everyone listening outside of the UK who might have missed that.
And so why I was just talking about weird animal
anyways a matter. Yes, that's a reference to an old

(15:18):
Prime Minister of the UK.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Ah, I see, I have no idea anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, so you also think coming idiot is just here
talk about bally.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Move on very quick, big slug of wine and it's
just to block that out.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yes, but yes, it was a weird thing, Like it
was quite cool to see all of these proper motor
GP legends kind of all in the same place at
the same time. But I don't know it felt like
we'd like to get them all in the same place
just for like the TV time, but we can't really
do it without telling them they're all really fucking amazing
and really stroking their egos. So we're going to have

(15:56):
to make this like a leaked tier within the motor
b Legends, which is the motor Youp Hall of Fame.
So it was called to them altogether, but it feels
like a bit of waste of time. And I mean,
anyone can be in the I don't know. I'm quite
torn on this. I think it's a waste of time.
But at the same time, the Mojorp Legends thing, there's

(16:17):
a lot of people in that now, and some of
them you look at and you're like, are you truly
I've read of its sorry for example, is he truly
a motgip be legend like it's great rider gave us
a good few seasons of like good championship bells. Is
he truly a legend of the sport? Maybe not so
in that instance, This Hall of Fame I think is

(16:38):
quite cool. It is making this elite tier. And to
be in the Mojip Hall of Fame you need to
have at least two Premier Class world titles or twenty
five Premier Class race wins.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's a difficult one. I'd like the idea of getting
everyone together kind of like a celebration maybe I don't know,
a bit like the Olympics. Every few years everyone gets together,
maybe around the weekend of the presentation ceremony at the
end of the Motor GP year, get everyone in there,

(17:15):
have like a gala, get everyone together, have a nice dinner.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
And kind of do that. At the end of every
season anyway, there is like a big gala at the
end of every season, isn't there.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, but this one is kind of just for the legends,
the new inductees to come along and then kind of
get together with the guys that are already there and
just bask if you will, and you're brilliant. I've been
inducted in. But it is a big exclusive club. I
kind of part of me kind of gets why they've

(17:45):
done it. But at the same time, I think you're
kind of not tarnishing everyone else, but you are segregating,
if you will. Yeah, you're putting a divide in there,
and I think if you're going to most sports have
a Hall of Fame, Yeah, nearly all of them, I believe.
And if you're going to do it, let's keep everyone

(18:06):
under one banner. Let's not split people into two. And
just if you're in the Hall of Fame or the
Legends panel or whatever, you're in there, and you know
there's guys on that panel that are no longer with us,
bless them. So it's not like you're going to be
waiting for hundreds and hundreds of people to turn up

(18:27):
to a gala and it's a logistical nightmare everyone.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
But I think this is sort of the problem, isn't it.
This was the problem with the Motor Legends. Thing is
there were so many people in there now that they've
kind of devalued it in a way that they had
to try and remake the Hall of Fame with something.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah better, Yeah this, I think this is what they've
realized now they've inducted so many people that those guys
like your I don't know you Valentinos, if you will,
who have got more wins, more championships, and everyone else,
they can't. They want to put them on a pillar.
So they've done this to make a separate category for them.

(19:06):
I kind of get it, But at the same time,
I wish everyone was under the same blacket.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, exactly, And I mean to be fair, the people
in the Hall of Fame are absolutely legends. I'll run
off the list quickly here. There aren't that many people
in there because not that many people have either won
two championships or have twenty five Premier Class race wins.
So the people in there at the moment are Umberto Massetti,
Jeff Duke, John Sertis, Mike Keilwood, Phil Reed, Barry Sheen.

(19:35):
None of those with us anymore. And then the rest
of the members are all still alive and kicking, and
that's Yakamagastini, Kenny Roberts, Ready, Spencer Laws and Wayne Rainey,
Kevin Schwantz, mcdowon, Casey Stone and Danny Putroz, Johilorento and
Valentino Rossi. And there are two guys currently on the
MOJJIP grid that will be inducted when they retire because
they meet the criteria, and that is Peckerback and mar Marquez.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah. Yeah, those guys, you know, will be inducted, so
they'll be added to the list. I don't know. I'm
kind of on the fence with it. I could see
the argument for both sides, and at the end of
the day, it's a lovely thing to be inducted into
the Hall of Fame and the Legends panel. So whatever

(20:21):
Moto Gup and Dorna decided to do with it, I
think it's okay. But I don't know. I don't know.
If I was sitting there and other people have been
inducted into a higher tier, would have been like this one.
I wanted to be in that one. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, then that's sort of tough shit, I don't Yeah, exactly, exactly,
well done, You're to be legend. You want a racist
A bit bit facetious here. Obviously it's incredible for anyone
to win any of these races, will even compete on
these machines, So yeah, yeah, that was me being a
little bit facetious. But there is an interesting point here though,

(21:01):
that to get into the MOGIP Hall of Fame you
need two Premier Class World Championships or twenty five Premier
class race wins, and that seems to be part of
this new push. We spoke about this in a podcast recently,
this kind of almost active effort to devalue Moto two

(21:23):
and Moto three. They're being physically separate from the Motor
GP PADDOC And now it seems that Dawner Liberty, the FIM,
or whoever the fuck is in charge, want to start
discounting championships one in the smaller classes. For example, the
Hall of Fame, like I say, specifically requires premier class champions,
which means Anhelnieto, the thirteen twelve plus one times world champion,

(21:48):
will never make it in. He's one of the winningest
riders goron Prix racing he's ever seen, and he isn't
in there because none of it was in the premier class.
According to this new Hall of Fame, Agastinely only has
eight championships, Rossi only has seven, mar Marquez has six,
where he Lorenzo has three and Danny Petroza has zero.
It's madness that this is the direction MOGIP is going

(22:11):
in right now. Like it's got to a point where commentators,
media and even the riders have been asked to stop
referring to their previous championships in the lower classes as
world championships. Reportedly from El Periodico, Mark Marquez has been
asked not to use the number nine in his championship

(22:32):
celebration this year. Reportedly, he also told them that that's
not happening. He's gonna separate how he likes. But there
seems to now be an active effort to call mart
Marquez a seven time world champion when he wins this
seventh championship or this ninth championship, because they are now
there is an active effort to devalue the lower classes.

(22:52):
And that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, that's really not cool. This is absolutely bullshit. Moto GP.
We whenever we talk about what we watch at the weekend,
when it comes to the motor opreation, we say, you know,
you know, we sit here, you and I having a
couple of beers. What did you do this weekend? Watch

(23:14):
the World Superbikes? I watched a Moto GP. When I
say I watched World Superbikes, I mean I've sat there
and I've watched the Supersport, I've watched the three hundred
championship that go with it. And when I talk about
I've watched the Moto GP, I've watched the I was
about to say two fifties Moto two. That one's really cocking.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Hurry back, Welcome to two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, you know we when I say Moto GP, that
includes Moto two and MO two three. So we'll sit
down because that's how I think of it. Moto GP,
A World Superbikes, those two words umbrella, all the sub
category championships that come with that weekend package. So telling

(24:00):
people that they're world championships that they've won in one, two, fifties,
two three b it is bullshit, absolutely bullshit. These are
stand alone championships in completely different categories, and you cannot
take away people's achievements that they've worked very, very hard
for and suddenly so they don't count. That's absolute bullshit.

(24:27):
If this goes ahead, I think there will be uproar
and if we see a Marquez win this weekend he's
crown champion. I really want to see him holding up
the full banner.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I agree completely. Do you know what is going to
be mad? Actually, if Mark Markus wins the race this weekend, Yes,
the Grand Prix and the championship at the same time,
he is going to win his seventh Motor GP championship. Fuck,
I've done it, Steve, They've already got me. He's going
to win his h championship and his one hundredth Grand

(25:03):
Prix race win one on the same weekend. Yes, and
apparently under this new edict, it won't be his one
hundredth PREE win. It will be his seventy fourth because
twenty six of his wins came in one, two, five,
and Moto two. So it will be mad if Mark

(25:24):
Marquez wins his hundredth Grand Prix has to add his
ninth World Championship and has to celebrate just winning his
seventh World Championship, just and his seventy fourth Grand Prix win.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
No, absolute bullshit, because it's not his seventh World Championship.
It is a ninth World Championship, because he said to previously.
Doesn't matter where they've come from. They're under the same header,
under the same category, just in a subcategory. If you will,
absolute fucking bullshit, And I will bring Carmela and tell

(25:59):
the fucker.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know who is rubbing their hands with lee with this.
Though it's a nine time WORL champion, Valanciner Rossi, who
nine championships, he's there like fucking results.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
If this is the case, you've got to take away
Rossi's one two five wins, his two fifty wins, You've
got to change the whole thing. It can't just be
for the guys who are racing today. You will have
to change all the record books. You will have to
change all the accolades that people have ever been given,
all the championships, not just for the guys living, but

(26:34):
for the guy's pasted as well. It's complete bullshit. The
direction and all this that's happened and has started to
come about is absolute bullshit. It needs to just be
left alone.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, and like we said, like we said it last week,
you've almost said it today. Like most Motor GP fans,
I'm convinced like you and I and sit down to
watch all three races all the weekend, like you and
I will chat and I'll always be up to oh
yeah watching the racing. Oh yeah, which one would you
like the best? Like, which was your favorite of the three?

(27:07):
Which was it? Was it Moto three, was it Motor two?
Was it moor GP. Rarely Steve, either one of us
says Motor Tip was the best race of the weekend.
Usually we're like, oh, it's Motor two or Motree absolutely
the best races of the weekend. And we're not alone.
I'm convinced most fans are with you and I here,
and I think most people I've heard, most content creators,

(27:27):
most media I've heard around Motor GP are all saying
the same thing. Like everyone is spouting the party line
right now, which is that we don't want the No.
One categories separated like this.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
No, no, absolutely no one watched the change.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
But the other hand is here because apparently this is
a liberty media thing. We had a comment on Facebook
from someone that said, there, this is definitely a liberty
media move. Maybe this is how you grow the championship.
Maybe in the liberty media are trying to parent Formula
one and to be fair to them if they're there
to make money, and if it means upsetting a bunch

(28:03):
of old fans but attracting a shit owner new ones,
which it could potentially do, I don't really see how.
But then that's because I'm quite deeply entrenched in my views.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is how the new fans
come in, and maybe we're the cranky old Formula one
fans here who are shouting that it was better in
the eighties, and maybe that we're just part of the problem.

(28:23):
I don't think that's the case, but then do you
ever realize you're the problem?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Do you feel that we have kind of hit that
moment in our Moto GP let's call it career, that
we are now hitting the point where new blood is
coming through with new ideas and suddenly it's time to
pass the baton and the torch to the younger people

(28:49):
that understand the fan base going forward. And we have
become the cranky old guys who don't want the change
because we're so what's the best way to put it? Oh,
We're going to quote Jesse Ventura in Predator dug in
like an Alabamatic. You know, we can't be moved, and

(29:10):
maybe we have hit the dinosaur point and we do
need to hand it over to these younger people that
understand content going forward.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
So the thing there is I think it's yes and no.
I think that no for a sporting sense, because I
do think we slight Donner a lot. I think Donner
have done a very good job at creating an amazing
championship in well, they didn't do a great job of
was you said it? Content? Was creating stories? Was doing

(29:44):
what Formula One has done a great series. I know
there has been series, but let's face it, none of
them have been great. There's been some great films, but
not since twenty fifteen, so we're a decade out from
the last really good mogip film. We've not had a
really good mojip series like we are. There's something missing
from the publicity of the sport that Formula one has nailed.

(30:07):
I think from a sporting aspect, I do think I've
used it correct and I don't want to see a
split up of two Motor three Motor GP in the
way that's being described. But from a content creation and
from a promotion angle, I think this is what the
media should be doing. This is handing it over to
the younger folk. Kama Espeletta probably thinks TikTok is a disease,

(30:31):
like we need fresh blood to promote the sport. But
to be fair, to manage the championship, Donner have done
a pretty good job.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
They have done a very good job. I personally think
you could keep the format the way it is for
Friday and Saturday and possibly Sunday if they want to
change things, but we could have if they want more coverage,
more build up, more storyline, more engagement with the fans,

(31:01):
we could still have a massive build up show similar
to what we've got now on a Sunday. Whether let's
say your coverage starts at eight am and finishes six pm,
you could have.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Made that's too long. That's too long for what's essentially
less than three hours of racing.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, but hear me out. If they want the spectacle,
the build up, the pomp from fanfare, you could have
Moto GP or whatever. Libyan Media and Dorna decide to
call it the show all day in one big segmented block,
and it's only split down to show. They break away

(31:40):
to the commentary team to show the Moto three race.
You have the build up on the Sunday all day,
and then you go to your Moto three race. You
continue that build up, and then that just swaps over
to the build up slightly to Moto two, but also
preceding with segmented shows to Moto GP. Then you have

(32:01):
your Moto two.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I just think it's too much, man, Like, I just
I don't know how many people would sit and watch
all that. I'd just go and like the joy of
the MOTORP racing is is you can watch three races
that's the same amount of times as a long Formula
one race, Like there are some short Formula one races,
maybe an hour and a half. There's some really long
Formula one races. And I can watch all three of
the Grand Prix motorcycle races in the time of a

(32:24):
long Formula one race. So I think, if you're gonna
make the show super long, you're gonna turn people off.
People aren't gonna watch all of that. They'll just go
and they'll wait, catch on, catch up, and just watch
all three races, and they might watch the ten to
fifteen minutes and build up at the start of each race.
I already think, like nearly an hour of build up
primot GP is a bit much. I don't often sit

(32:46):
watch it all.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
How what is I don't watch Formula one? So run
us through a typical break it down Sunday in Formula one.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Which as channel you're to start with. If you're watching
Formula one like I do. I watched Channel four, you
get forty five minutes of build up. Maybe you then
get race highlights, extended highlights, so your two hour race
is an hour and fifteen minutes, and then you might
get thirty minutes of post race stuff. If you're watching
Formula one on Sky, then you're watching f one TV

(33:22):
and that is a twenty four to seven Formula one channel.
So that's where it all becomes very different because then, yes,
you do have hours of build up. It might start
o'clock in the morning, the race isn't on until two
in the afternoon, and then you know it's a two
and a half hour race, and then you've got a
chunk of call down time afterwards and then post race
analysis and all that. So Formula one does kind of

(33:44):
have that. But we've also got to remember Formula one
is huge compared to motorgup like it's got ten times
to viewing numbers, it's both. I mean it will sell
out almost every single track, two hundred thousand people will
and up to Silverstone maybe more, maybe hundred and fifty
thousand people will turn up or just on the Sunday,

(34:05):
So it's stupidly popular. So they can afford to have
these long shows because if ten percent fans are watching, excellent,
that's great. If GIP fans are watching, that's not enough
to get our fucking advertisers. Like people aren't interested in
a few eyeballs, So I just I don't think mojip
is a sport at the moment that can pull off
as huge build ups.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Interesting, So Moto GPS launched their channel in the US,
didn't they they're twenty four, Yes they did, Yeah, channel recently.
So it's on demand on stream over there in the
US currently, Yes.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Free to watch.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Was it free advertising supported streaming TV or TV streaming
or something like that?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
So we yeah, okay, right, so you look at let's
take a formula one Raceland money Go which draws in
the celebrities with their boats and they back it into
the harbor and all that. If you want to take
moto GP up and even start to get anywhere near
the level of viewers, money involved and revenue are formula one,

(35:18):
you've got to start somewhere. So your first step is
to bring in more followers, so free to air publicity,
with sponsorship numbers increasing, it's got to start somewhere.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Well, I think that's exactly the answer. I don't think
what they're doing is the answer. I think putting motorgip
back on free to AIRTV in as many countries as
you can is the answer, even if that means taking
a hit of your video pass like you just you
stuck that up to green the sport. And you know,
that's very easy for you and I to say, because

(35:53):
we've not just spent four billion dollars to buy a
company and to buy a bunch of championships that now
need to make us money, very easy for us to
criticize that. But I do think from a long term
point of view, surely losing a bit of money now
rebuilding your fan base, because I think like when mogip

(36:14):
used to be on terrestrial TV in the UK, I
think there was a million people in the UK were
watching it. Yeah, every race. There are now less than
one hundred thousand people in the UK regularly watching races
on video passed. Like it's ten percent. It's a ten
percent of the number. Like that's such a dramatic drop,
And how the fuck are you going to get new
fans without a really good content strategy? And again, maybe

(36:37):
this is part of a really good content strategy of
just mojip is the formula one of motorcycle racing. Maybe
that's the entire point. They're just trying to f one
mogip to get the fans and maybe it will work,
and maybe we are the dinosaurs, But I feel quite
uncomfortable about it. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, I think it's a mixture of all salts liberty.
You have taken over and realize that it is a
big revenue market here and gains to be made from
motor GP. And like you say, I pay thirty one
quid a month to watch motor GP on TNT Sport.
What is video passing year is one hundred and sixty
seven quid over here or something.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I think it was one hundred and seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
This year has gone up. I think the last one
I paid was one hundred and sixty seven quid. So
and like you say, when it was free to air,
there was a lot more people. People haven't got the
money to splash out. Like my TNT Sport package is
a luxury.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I don't be kidnaess on it at a luxury rate,
so I wouldn't have to watch half the football without it.
You are absolutely never going to convince me it's a
luxury to have it in your house where you are
just a lucky recipient. The motor GP is on there.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Basically it covers both places for us, but if it
was if money was tight, that would have to be
one of the things that went first. So I count
that as a luxury because it is expendable exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
And you know, Steve, You've got good friends that will
just give you a log in details anyway, So it's stressive.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, I know, I know. We all share that log
in details at some point. I think I gave someone
around the world when I had video plays.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Never wouldn't do that, Donner. Don't listen to him or
me now.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Terrible, terrible, We don't share we did? We did. There's
a massive Moto GP, it could be a lot bigger
and Liberty Media's take over. They're boffins there. They've realized this.
There's a lot more scope to be had here. And
I think the problem is we are the old dinosaurs now, mate,

(38:41):
And I'm pretty sure if we were to be lucky
enough to bust into the boardroom a Liberty Media and Dorner,
there's not going to be many people sitting around that
boardroom that are older than me.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I would actually disagree. I bet they are.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
All money are older than me. But the think is
the right ideas who spitball and brainstorm the ideas are
all going to be younger than us. It's just because
they're going to be more tuned in with the audience
that Dorner and Liberty Media want in ten years time.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, maybe this is that that thing that's the old adage.
You know, if you love something, you've got to let
it go. Maybe that's part of it here. If we
want to see the sport grow, maybe we've got to
let it go and let it go and evolve and
change how the current owners think it should. And we're
just going to be screaming into the void that you know,
it was better in the past, and maybe that will
be true. But no one wants to hear old men

(39:41):
screaming into the void because it's embarrassing. So I don't know.
I'll rally against it for now because I do disagree
with the changes. I hope that they go back on it.
I hope they listen to the current fan base. But
if they've worked out that if they can lose ten
million of the current fan base and gain forty million
people where then that's the direction of sport's going to go.

(40:02):
And we're all going to have to suck it up
and we're going to be doing a BSB.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Podcast pretty much. So yeah, keep an eye out for that.
It will be on Spotify. I don't know. We love BSB
for the love of Yeah, well, what's the word for it?
Oh god, we'll pattern that now.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah exactly, we'll copyright now, we'll get that in.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I don't know either way. This is going to be
an interesting thing to watch an unfold. Whether we like
it or not. We can only hope and put our
faith in Liberty Media and Dorner. The direction that they
take Motor GP and all its subsidiary categories is the
right one.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, exactly, very political.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
They're well done.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That was I feel like we got deep there, actually, Steve.
That got that got me thinking more than I expected to.
That got expecting to just rant to then quite a
deep conversation about fandom and capitalism essentially and the future
of the sport. And I think we covered some bases
quite well. I feel so proud of that conversation Steve

(41:10):
that I'm patting myself on the back.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I think we did a wrong with that one. For
a couple of just half drunk.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
A mate and one beer in so I'm still I'm
practically operating on full efficiency.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I'm pretty much fucked you are.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
You've got through half that glass fyfare your quarter of
a bottle of wine.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
In I'm necking it, mate. That rent has really got
me going. This is what I started drinking like crazy,
and I'm halfway through the juice as well. I'm going
to stop for a pee in a minute.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Oh dear, Well before we get to that one more.
We're actually neck out of that vase pretty quickly, Steve,
you could just pee in that, I'll be all right
there it goes well. I really thought you would just
give the whole thing down then I'll be very impressed.
I'd also be quite impressed if you could just pee
in that with already splashback or anything.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Mate. I'm pretty sure let's got your what half a
leter in there?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I reckon it's half a bottle, so it's at least
three seventy five mil at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
I reckon there's a good three quarters of a pint
in there.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, probably so what would that be? That's probably
about three seventy five mil. Actually that's probably about right.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah I could feel that.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's the very bit then just spraying everywhere.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Stop, I can't.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Oh no, just as overflowing.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I'm sorry, there's a towel around here or something that's
washing behind me. I can look at those one of
the serious pie hoodies.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I uh, yesterday I was, Yeah, it was not that bad, No,
I was. I got so for my running. I've got
like you obviously take energy gels and stuff, but energy
was are really fucking expensive. I found you can bulk
by just like a big bag of it, well not

(42:55):
even that, just like one big container full and then
you just top up like a reusable a little software.
It's been doing that, but I dropped it midway through
pouring yesterday, and oh my god, I thought this stuff
was quite thick. It turns out it's only thick when
you're trying to get out of your legal little bottle.
It's not thick when it's running down your clothes and
all over the floor. And it's the stickiest thing. I

(43:17):
had to mop the floor three times today, and then
I realized that just as I was finishing mopping the
third time, the floor was still sticky because the bottom
my feet were really sticky, and I was just retrigging
it everywhere human Yeah, it was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I had that several times to hear with the kids,
they've dropped stuff. Oh god, no, man, edge, I dropped
yoga out of the fridge the other day and I've
never seen an explosion like it.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yogurts go, mate when they go.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, so they have the little fromage pots and we're
talking a little teeny tiny thing like what inch by
an inch?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
This thing it's much like blood doughmate. As soon as
that hot and on the floor, it was amazing how
far it can go.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, everyone got a bit. The fucking house mouse got
some lot.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Oh no, was this in the living room as well? Then?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah? Yeah, Pearl Hamster was looking at us like, can
have a bit of pizza.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Covered the soft furnishings?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah? Literally? Oh ma, don't you see our sofas. We
purposely haven't bought new sofas since we had the boys,
because we knew full well they were going to get crashed.
And yeah, there's no point, no, no, we said, once
Brodie hits about what five six, we'll consider geting new
tro for sofas. And I looked at him. I backed
up and looked at him the other day and I
was like, I don't know what color they started out as, It.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Doesn't matter as long as they're comfy, man. And you
do us comfy sofas.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
So they are very comfy sofas and the kind that
are only getting better with.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Age, exactly, so it doesn't matter what they look like.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
No, the boys are really added to the patina, if
you will, what I tell everyone, ignore the sofas their vintage.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, exactly exact. Actually well loved.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, well well worn.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, speaking of well worn, Steve, the Moto GP trophy,
the Tower of Champions as it is known, has had
an overhaul.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
It has. I'm on board for this.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, I actually think it looks really cool. I like it.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, I do like it. Yeah. When I saw it,
I was like, do I know this? But then I
looked at it, I sat back, I stared at it
for a little bit, like I do, and then no,
actually it needed updating.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, I like it. I like the concept of the
Tower Champions have always liked it. It's a really trophy,
fantastic thing, and I love that they've stuck with that
and just given it kind of a sleek update. It's
just a nice evolution and I'm here for it. I
think it's cool. Out of all of the bullshit that
happened at this fucking Motor GP Hall, of Fame thing
this time I'm here for yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, and the liberty media take the thing maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
See I'm not a fucking dinosaur, Steve. I do like
the new things as long as they're as in consequence
what the trophy looks like.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, as long as they're tasteful, I like it. They
are only thing I would change, not even change, because
we know the guys get their little plaque a little
black to take home, don't they.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Well, this is why I was wondering. So obviously, every
time a new champion is crowned, the little plaque gets
added to the Tower of Champions, and the trophy just
grows and grows and grows every year with a new
plaque going the way around it. If you guys listen,
don't know what the trophy looks like, you need to
google it because it's just essentially a circle with a
series of the plaques that have got the winners' names on,

(46:42):
and it just climbs and towers around the tower. Suppose
it's it's a cool trophy and I really like it.
But do the riders. Is there a whole new trophy
every year and the Riders just keep the trophy? Or
do they have to give the trophy back at the
end of the year and a new plaque gets added
and then it gets passed on to the next champion.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
So I was under the impression they got a plaque
with their a separate their piece, their little jigsaw piece
that goes in. I was under that impression. And they've
got a version of the trophy.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Okay, So there's like one main trophy that they just
give you like a your own secondary fake trophy.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, that's what I had in my head because we
all see them when they when we have the Motor
Tip presentation ceremony at the end of the year, they
get the Motor Gip champion on. He comes up, he
gets given his plaque, receives his medal, and he gets
to put his blackyard on the trophy and it grows.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, whoa trophy falling over?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
No, that would be the practice chantra going over.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Okay, at least it wasn't a bottle of wine.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
No, that wasn't the bottle one. They're still in the
fridge and the bagpipes have gone down. It's not bagpipe,
it's a bit would then.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It's a practice bagpipe. It's a pipe without the bag
it is.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, he go, they are there.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
We go so Steve can work on his fingering technique
before he outgrades the machine. Yeah, and on that note, no,
I like that. I like the trophy. I don't know
whether what happens, but you know, if they do have
to give it back in theory, just go home. My

(48:35):
team now not have to give the old one back?
Can you just keep that?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Well, that would be the assumption, but I would assume no,
you know, because the old yeah one one will go
in the museum somewhere, would become a part of history.
This is why I believe they get their own separate
thing that they get to keep.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Okay, right, well Steve. On
that note, then let's take a quick break and then
when we come back, we are going to chat MATEGGI.
Oh I'm looking forward to this, me too, mate. Sorry, guys,
bear with us for just one moment and we will
be right back with you and we are back. Thank

(49:34):
you for bring with us. But lad as are empty.
It is our full. Steve's wine glass is not full. Actually,
he has just admitted to me that he will not
be having it. You've actually necked a load of that
in this break though, so out there it goes Steve
has finished and didn't even look pained on that last week.
So maybe the comments that you're not going to have
anymore or a lion you're going to be necking up

(49:56):
for the rest of the night.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, So for context, that's three quarters of a pink glass.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Jude, Okay, well we were pretty much right then we
guess that's nearly full.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, so a good yeah, two thirds of a point
of wine.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
That'll do the job. Happy days. So then Steve Mategi, well,
I'm looking forward to this. I'm looking forward to to Mate.
I like Mategi. I like the flyways as well, which
is a good point. What time does the race start?
At time? Because I like the flyways, but I can
just get up super early and watch all the racing

(50:33):
first thing in the morning.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, it's going to be somewhere in the region of
what six in the morning.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Let's have a look schedule race day. This is my time.
Oh look at that Motor three starts at three am,
or Motor two is at quarter past four, motorgp at
six am. Beautiful six am.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, this is where some of our listeners overseas suddenly
get to benefit from the flyaways and the race have
been on a respectable time for them.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, some of the our listeners in yes,
certainly that kind of Pacific region are quite thankful for
these four or five races a year that take place
in a decent time zone for them.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah. And if you're in the US, prepare for a
late night. It would be late.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
That's a good point. They're behind us, aren't they. So
if it's three am here on the East coast of
the US, it's going to be like nine pm Saturday night. Bad.
On the West coast, it's going to be like seven pm.
That's the Moto three.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
That's not too bad.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
So yeah, here in California you can watch the Mojorib
race at like ten o'clock Saturday night. That's a fucking result.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's a bonus. Yeah. So it kind of works out
well where everyone.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, it does. I'm still a little apprehensive, you know, Steve,
about being in New Zealand and having Motor GP on
a weird, weird fucking time Monday mornings and stuff really
mess with me.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah. We've spoken to some of our ki WE listeners
in the past. You said, I don't get to see
it till Monday morning. I'm like, what do you mean
Monday morning, and then you're ahead of us.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
However in many hours and it's like, oh my god, Yeah,
this is suddenly where the world makes sense. We just
assume because the massive bulk of the races are in
Europe and we're UK based. You know, everyone's along our time,
scan what the hell do you mean it's.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Non European. Most sports fan is not great, I think
if you're into World Championship racing.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
No, no, not at all. I see a lot of
fans from like the US who always like, oh God, God,
get up early, God to stay up late, and there's
us like, what are you on about it? Something three
in the afternoon exactly. So, yeah, it is when you
get these championships that are predominantly European based. I do
always feel very sympathetic for specific base and audience and

(53:12):
the US audience because it is just all over the
place for you guys. Yeah, so it's not the easiest
thing to watch in the world. And you know, if
you wake up and the first thing you do is
look on social media, you're pretty much fucked.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Exactly. But that's a general rule of life, to be honest,
the first thing you do in the morning is checking
social media. Then yeah, the day's not gonna start.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Well, No, not at all, not at all. But this
this weekend is going to be fantastic, right. There's a
lot of ship that can happen this weekend.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, there really is. So let's have a quick chat
about what we are looking for in mategie, shall we.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Let's go for a buddy good stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
So first start, Steve the big one. Whether Mark Marquez
can outscore Alex Marquez by three points over the race weekend,
that is all he needs to do to secure his
ninth World championship. And Mark was on the podium in
last year's Grand Prix at Mattegi, behind only Peco Bagnaia

(54:11):
and Juai my team, and I don't think there's much
chance of either of those two getting in his way
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
No, it's done in the sprint.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
It can't be done in the sprint. Points up for grabs, Yeah,
well it'll be after. If he's outscored Alex by three
points by the time Sunday is over, then yeah, in total,
three points over the whole weekend, by the time some
day is over than Mark wins, but he can't win
until the end of the Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
No, he's got it. This weekend, it's almost I think
it's almost a given things will have to happen. But Tegi,
although it is not unbeknown throwing up some shite weather.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah, I was thinking that, you know, like it could
well be a really soaking wet race. And you know,
if it's a soaking wet race, Mark does one or
two things. Mark either balls to the wall, Fuck it,
I'm going for the win anyway, or he just sits
in behind Alex, rides it out and goes out. Fuck it,
I'll wear it. Next weekend.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, it's it's going to be weather. Based on one
hundred since, sure of it. This weekend. If we've seen
some ter if we see some torrential weather like we've
had in the past, god knows what could happen. We
had races in the past where guys are falling left
front center. So it's going to be come it's going
to come down to this. If it's a dry race,

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it's done. If it's wet, there's the uncertainty because things
can happen. He could fall off and if he does,
then he's not going to win it. It's this is
going to be purely down to the weather. If it's dry,
he's got it.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, I think that's probably fair. You know, I don't
think I've seen Mark wearing one of his you know
he wears those almost suit thing. Yeah. Yeah, we've not
seen him wear that on a catty yet.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
No, we haven't. We've seen him wear it on the
whole though. It's kind of that white.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I don't even it's just kind of clear, isn't it
like a leotard almost like a rain proof leotard.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, you can buy and we could write. We
could wear him on the road, can't we? To a
certain mate?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Just some walking down the road that a lot of
the time as well.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, I'd like to give everyone a good.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Look exactly get my love rug out.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, why not. Yeah, it's just going to be weather based.
If it's dry, it's his. If it's changeable or completely wet,
then it's going to be unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
So probably still his.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
It's probably still his. He's just going to be sensible
and it's there's face it, it's not just him that
has to cross the line. It's his brother as well.
If Alex should fall, it's.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
His so, yes, exactly, there's two which play. Yeah, that's true.
I didn't really feel about Alex could just crash out and.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Then it's done.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, but it would be called to see him win
the race, to win his hundreds of Prix and his
Marriag World Championship at the same time. And if he
did that, Steve, I'm sure he would be having an
epic celebration. And as for the love of Motor GP's
official choreographer of celebrations, what have you got for us, Steve?
What should Mark Marquez be doing to celebrate his ninth

(57:19):
World Championship and one hundred Grand Prix win.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I've given this a little bit of thought. I've given
a lot of thought, actually really so I have three
scenarios for you.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Whoa they has a lot of thought been going into this.
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah. See. The first one I came up with was
an alternative universe, a bit of a DLC for you.
This one I really like, he's on the Honda still
and he wins his after all that's happened, He's come
back after a few years.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Okay, okay, okay. I see I see now, but.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
He's still with Honda. He's still with Honda.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
So so for reference here as well, Mategi is owned
by Honda and he's home racetrack, so.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, it has special meaning. So he wins the championship,
he crosses the line, he wins the championship. The fireworks off.
It's fantastic. They're all orange white because it's still HRC.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Everything's gone on well, well it's still REPS at this point.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah, everything's gone. Everything's lovely and hanky do in the world.
He's doing his lap of honor and he gets to
the markers fans stand and he's greeted by a bank
of samurai. There's a whole bank of samurai.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
We've seen this before, but this is one of them,
Danny Petroza.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
No, no, none of them is not. But one of
them is Noriyuki Haga, the Samurai slide. Now, he wanders
up to the samurai and he is presented with his
own katana, and this is all a ruse, just to
take you away from what's happening behind the scenes. Everyone's

(58:58):
found basing on this. Everyone's looking at him, and there's
a lovely ceremony going on. With the samurai and presenting
with little sword. And in the background, this bike is
being prepared and it's been changed like pack bag, nice
golden livery ah, this has been prepared to a very
nice all orange rising Sun the return new new livery

(59:28):
very nice, and he just gives it a one off lap,
very high, very nice and humble. He doesn't need to
be big. There's lots of fireworks, lots of music, a
lot of fanfare in the gravel in front of the
his fans, and the way he goes. He gives it
a very nice, humble lap of the track with its

(59:48):
very nice new championship winning sword.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, I like to you call it a humble lap
after he's been presented a sword by an army of samurai.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah, that's just that's the level. Yeah, that's how dumb. Anyway,
it gets better, right, so we go. Yeah, it just
pops a few eyeb profile. He's good, so we bring bad.
We're in the present day. He crosses the line. He's
winch o K. You know, we know, we know the timeline,
we know what's going on with Grasini, and we get
to Betakey this weekend and the pressure is on, you know,

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he's finished first and second to his brother in intekey
for the sprint, and it's a drive race, so we
have a full bore race. Amans brother all the way,
nice pressure, and he crosses the line in first.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
And this it's kind of assuming Alex isn't in second
in this scenario because I don't think Mark can win
the championship. If Alex wins the sprint, to Mark finish
the second, and then Mark wins the Grand Prix. At Alex
finishes second.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Mark wins the sprint. Mark wins. Okay, yeah one too,
so he's won it this weekend. So he crosses the line,
usual stuff, fireworks goes off, he gives it one lovely lap,
cooling down lap, and he's coming waving his flag, waving down,
he's saluting the crowd and he gets round to the

(01:01:13):
Caddy grandstand and he's there, gets off his bike. His
brother pulls up. They're doing the usual, they're dancing, and
he suddenly behind him, very much like the old celebrations
used to see in the past, a lot of fun.

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There's an ambulance pulls up and at the back of
the ambulance they wheel a gurney out and they place
marquees on the gurney and this is hooked up to
the back of the ambulance. So they take him for
a little ride around the lap.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Ironically, he falls out and breaks his arm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, yeah, he's just sat. He's waving to the crowd.
He's giving it, giving it all the beans. And you know,
his brother's following along behinde him on the bike as
he probably would. And this again is all a rude
for what's happening behind the scenes. So the ambulance does
a lap. They take him around, and they get back
to Pitt Lane and they pull in and he disappears

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in the garage and you hear a bike fire up,
and this is where the celebration really starts. Out of
the garage comes a very lovely red Jucati, all red
apart from a phoenix in gold nice down the side.
He's not changed his leathers. His levers are got subtleties
on them which now match the bike. And then he

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goes off for his little lap. He's changed his helmet.
He's got to love the phoenix down the top of
his helmet, and that's his parade lap. He goes back out.
Phoenix from the ashes back round to the Giatti stand
where the guys have then setting up fireworks. There's the
usual firecrackers going off, and he just stops, parks the bike.

(01:03:00):
His brother's there as well, family, and just sits in
the gravel. Nice and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Doesn't here for that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah, it doesn't need to be too much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
A bit of fun, it doesn't need to be too much.
Sounds like it's quite a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Quite a choreography, but it could be done very quickly.
The other one I thought of was just a very
very humble one, not too much crosses the line, lots
of tears under the helmet of course. Jakatti stand sits
in the gravel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Oh, that would be really good actually, and just a
really understated just sits there, but not the Jakati stand.
It would be his stand. He'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, the market is that the ninety three stand with
all his fan base and literally just sits there, just
pops his lid in the gravel. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I'd like that. I think that would be a really
cool one. And you know, that way he can save
the big burning of the Valentino Rossi effigy for when
he wins his tenth file.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, I couldn't decide on this one what I would
really like because there's so much involved in this championship.
With that, if we should take it this week and
do you go big, do you go well? I don't
think there's any middle ground with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
He's been big because it's Japan, and I think that
he is loved in Japan and Hondas still adore him,
man like, he's still loved by Honda, he's still loved
by Japanese fans, so I think he goes big. But
I would really like just the quiet sit down in
the gravel, shed a tear. I think that would be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, just literally leave the helmet in the gravel, get
back on the bike, not forget.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Pay you ten thousand pound fine or whatever it will be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, whatever, let's face it, we can't afford it. I
can't decide. I haven't been outside where it's big or small.
I really would like what would be the alternative one
where he's still with Honda and it's matis eggy and
they've nursed him through. But you know, that would be

(01:05:08):
a very romantic win at Everything would have aligned, you know,
just to lead to this scenario and then you could
go absolutely massive with it, but that's not the reality
we find ourselves in. I personally like the humble, the
very small and humble. But at the same time, I

(01:05:32):
think you've got to jest what he's been through and
he needs to acknowledge it. So I can't like the
ambulance idea and the gurdy, you know, strap his arm
up and then he comes back out. Yeah, something like that.
You know, we've seen a lot of fun celebrations in
the past, Rossy in the chicken egg and the bowling

(01:05:53):
and all that stuff. I personally I like the humble,
but I haven't been out of the side on this one.
This one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I'm still wondering, you know, about the hundredth Grand Prix win,
because I fancying Rossi had a cool one where he
like unraveled that thing with pictures of all of his
Grand Prix wins and that was super cool. I suspects
Marcus is going to do something to celebrate that. It
won't be exactly what ROSSI did, because that was Rossi's idea.

(01:06:24):
I can't do that, but it would be something similar,
but it probably be something in the New Aid like.
It would be something remember Coratero dancing with the CGI
devil like it will be something like that. I imagine if
to be fair, DRNA and the powers that be are
going to allow him to celebrate that and with graphics
and things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah, I did wonder about it. Hundreds win I did
have a sideways idea on that, but it's very unfeasible.
This one would have to be. There'd be a lot
of logistics evolved with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
He literally gave us one thing and alternate universe where
he still rides for Honda. That's also unfeasible.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, but how would you get a hundred winning bikes
on track?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Oh? Great, idea, easy, easy. You just need a few
Hondas live reaed up to look like they were Honders
of the across the era.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Every single one, not three two every year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
That would be so good, wouldn't it. Imagine though, because
it's the Flyaways, he doesn't win him take They're like, fuck,
we've now got a fly Where do we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Next to Indonesia somewhere like that. Yeah, he doesn't win it,
and you've got to take it to the next one exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
And it happens in the Flyaways, of all places, it's
Indonesia next, then Australia, then Malaysia for Valencia. So you'd
just be shipping around one hundred's other bikes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Exactly one for every year, and suddenly you've got a
parade lap of one hundred winning bikes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I think that would be super cool, man. Yeah, a
Livery bike of just every win he's taken. What would
they be Derby's from when he was in Yeah, from.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Absolutely all sorts. If you could get every single one,
because they're all in a museum somewhere or private colectus.
If you could do it, it's feasible. My god, the
logistics to make it pull off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
You know, I would It would be super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
It would be very superical. I did think about it,
like where you could do the scenario where he pulls
at the garage, he gets a new boat with the
Phoenix Livery, he goes past the end of it lade
and all of a sudden, ninety nine other boats following out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, yeah, that would that would be amazing, mate. I'd
be so here for that. That would be a really
really cool one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Yeah, Dawn, and that's my TV.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Okay, there we go. There's Steve's many versions of the
Marquez celebrations recently. Yeah, that's fair. You'd be making the
most of it, my friend. I like that. So there
is another championship coming down to the wire right now, Steve,
Because theoretically this weekend Alex Marquez can win the Independent

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Riders Championship. It's unlikely he's going to win it this
time out. He would need to outscore Frankie Morbadelli by
thirty six points to seal the deal. So he needs
a perfect weekend and he needs Frankie defalter in both races,
and if he does that, Mark won't wrap up here
over all titles. So whatever happens, we're not going to
see a double Marquez championship this weekend. But Alex Marquez

(01:09:21):
right now is poised to win the Independent Riders Championship
and this is a match point for that too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah. Pretty much, a good weekend from Alex and a
bad one from Morbidelli will pretty much steal this deal,
and he'll wrap it up in Indonesia.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
So the deal's already sealed, mate, it's just when. I like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
With both Marcus Marquez brothers at the minute, it's a
case of when not if.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
So yeah, I wonder, you know, is this a cooler
double championship win than twenty thirteen when they did Moto
three Emotor GP together, or in when did Alex win
his Motive two title.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Now you're talking twenty nineteen. Yeah, I was just about
to say eighty, but I think you're right with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Nices because they were teammates in twenty Yeah, it would
have been twenty nineteen. Yes, and twenty nineteen they did
the double EMOJIP and Motwo two, and now it looks
like they're going to do the double this year in
Motor GP with the actual overall MOTORYP title and the
independent riders that one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I didn't consider that one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Sorry, I don't know. Is this Is this a cooler
one than outright winning championships in the lower classes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I'd say if they could make this one happen together
at one race, a cool little celebration would be if
they could get the double championship winning bikes all on
track together, that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Would be super cool. Yeah, that would be really good, all.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
For this year, so that all six of the bikes
obviously the two for this year, the two Motor two
for Alex and Motor three for Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Which would have been what the Mark v ds the
Australia GLI. Yeah, and then Alex Marquez is hot Australa
gl Honda.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah three, yeah, so it will be both those bikes.
Marcus is what repsal Honda, two reps Hondas and one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
K Yeah that's doable for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Yeah. Who would you get to ride though, you'd have
to have their dad on one bike.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Yeah, would be cool. Mechanics and respective partners. Yeah, get
Anti Hernandez on one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Yeah, they don't all have to join in. That would
be very cool. Just a little parade lab all six bikes,
that would be very cool. Yeah, you need to employ us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Too, Yeah, all over the ship. But next up, then
Steve thinks from Mattegi pedro A cost start. So in
his rookie season, Pedro Costa put it on pole in
Mategi and proceeded to lead both the Sprint and the
Grand Prix before ultimately crashing out of both. Will he
be just as fast this time out and with a

(01:12:16):
year's experience under his belt, because if that happens, he
could be a real threat for his first major be
win this year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I'm I think he's going to have a very good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
He's in my fantasy squad, so I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
I haven't quite stuck him in yet. I'm debating it.
I think he's going to He's going to be a
fly in the ointment this weekend. He's not going to
be a slouch. He's going to be quick. Again, I
think it depends on the weather. So if it's dry,
he's going to be a problem for them. If it's wet,
it's unpredictable. But either way, he's going to be fast

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this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think he will be. So I'm going
to be paying a lot of attention to him and
as well the other kt ms because it has been
a good run for KTM recently.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah, they've really come on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yeah quite in as he's been on form and he's
got some pretty good results in the Tega over the
last few years. All on the caddies to be fair
obviousleep but still and Vinyards like if he can rediscover
his pre injury form then he could be on form
as well this weekend and well, Binder, if he can
work out what the fus gone wrong this year and
how to fix it, then maybe maybe maybe he can.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Off down the shops. At this point, He's like, where's
the track.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Yet, what's going on? Benda's in the newsagents, just getting
the then dirty magazines off the top shelf, you know,
with the blue cover over them. I may as well
just get a copy of Hustler. Oh that's it, Steve's
are why a week oft and fit there? It's continuing

(01:13:54):
the idea of Brad Binda reading a Hustler is really uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
It wasn't the half drug of wine. It was the
thought of him knocking went out to a wank mag.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
It was those sticky pages that really put you off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Oh one hundred and six pages, but there's only four.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Oh no, Steve. That's the difference in our teenage years
the ten years. There is the difference between having the
Internet and having dirty mags.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
That is very true. Your generation will never know the
joy of finding a dirty magazine in the head.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Ye. No, that's because we just went on pornhob dot
com exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
My genervation had to look up at the top shelf.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Longingly, waiting till the day one of you turned eighteen,
and it's still no one was brave enough to buy them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, one of us was tall enough to jump a
nick one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That's the way, mate, that's the way. But yeah, the KTM, Steve,
let's bring it back to those like It could be
a really good weekend for KTM all round. If if
the bike works at this circuit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, they've really been on form just recently, they've turned
it up a notch. If it works, they're going to
be quick. Pedro's got form and Ney has been on form.
If they can dial it in and make it work,
they are in for a very good weekend. Binder's the
only sort of uncertainty. He seems to be the one

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apart from from the others with his injuries, that has
been floundering recently and not finding the form. But even so,
if he can talk to the other guys share some data,
I'm sure talk to Pedro, they're going to have a
good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good, be exciting. I'm also going
to be paying attention to the aprilias, Steve, because Zeki
has been on an absolute mission this year, and I
want to know if this is going to continue in Japan.
Generally a prob haven't got a good record around the
Teggy Alisha Spargo's fifth from twenty twenty three is their highlight,

(01:16:02):
but it feels like it's a different factory this year,
so maybe things can change. And this is a home
race for Riah Agora, so I'm hoping to see something
bame from him this weekend as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, this does feel like a different factory this year.
There's something has clicked this year with a Prillier and
Bez especially looks fantastic, So I would be a little
bit disappointed, and I'm hopeful that he's going to carry
on his form. I Agora, I want to see a
fantastic home livery.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Oh that's a good point. I hadn't thought about that,
but yeah, I imagine we'll get a special one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yeah, I really want to see a nice Japanese dedicated
livery for my That would be something special, especially with
it kind of live in that trackhouse. Blue and white
would be fantastic. Some kind of lotus flower thing would
be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Or you just change change it, just make it red
and white.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Go red and white a lottle. I'm actually thinking about that,
thinking about lotus flaw. You could do a really nice
pink and white mm hmm, really nice lotus flower, very Japanese,
very humble, kind of subtle.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yeah, I like humble. Humble is your word of the evening, Steve, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I've been on a humble kind of I've been on
a bit of a I don't know. I don't think
anyone needs to be outlandish this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Fair enough, I mean to be fair. I think stereotypes
of Japan always are quite a humble place, quite reserved,
laid back. So what I'm going for yeah nice?

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, so something very nice from my very nice kind.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Of floral understated, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I understated, but very fantastic at the same time. Or
an anime an anime.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yeah, I don't know enough about the word of anime
to know what would be a good animation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
You don't have kids. You need to load up Google
and typing ca pop Demon Hunters and you will.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
I've seen clips of this. These are the fellas. They've
got like a load of number ones across the world,
haven't they, Like from a fake band in a TV shows?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
If I ever find you will.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Steve has a very special set of skills.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah, it's extremely popular kids about ends of those age
at the minute. So these are, as far as I'm aware,
real capop bends.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Yeah, but that means they're not Japanese. To be fair,
it does mean they're Korean and anything about Japanese South
Korean relations, it's that you absolutely do not get the
too confused.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Well maybe I just sucked up whatever happens that kind
of mix. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Jesus, maybe just a bite covered in Pokemon. That's kind
of where my anime knowledge and Pokemon. One piece gun
damn Wing. That was a great one. Cool livery. Yeah,
you can have a really cool gun damn based livery.
That would be fun. It would be like the Lincoln
Park Meteor album.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Now you're talking, Now you are talking. Well, we got
made thinking now right, it's just drawing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Steve's gonna plan I Agora's livery for him and email
it to him with three days to go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Yeah. I don't know who prints their fairings, but you
better get on it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I imagine it's just like I dot Agora at gmail
dot com send emails to every possible variation of Aura.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Yeah, get this guy. Yeah, he needs to do a
special this weekend. Yes, that needs to be done. Bears
needs to carry in this form, he needs to just
carry on his up. We're in getting used to this
bike Yeah, are prittier. This needs this weekend. Just need

(01:20:07):
a very good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah right, And speaking of needing very good weekends, Steve,
the Japanese Manufacturers Mategi is the home round for both
Honda and Yamaha, although it is a true home round
for Honda in the circuit as previously mentioned, and it's
going to be fascinating this weekend to see whether the
Honda resurgence can hold up at home and whether Yamaha
can avoid yet more embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Oh, these are the only two teams are really fearful
for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Well, I don't know, man. The Honda might be okay,
Like it's not got much grunt, but it's got a
good stopping power and this is a real stop and
go circuit, so at least it's got the stopping bit down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
It has got the stopping down. Yeah. But this is
the one where suddenly the race, where suddenly the big
weeks are going to be here, and there's going to
be a lot of pressure especially if he not especially
but more for Honda, I guess, because like you said,
they own the track, but their form has been slightly
better than they amahas just recently, so I feel like

(01:21:12):
there's gonna be more pressure on them. Yeah, whatever happens,
they all need a much better weekend. Again, they need
some special liveries. Bust it out for your home home race.
For whatever happens this weekend. There's we always see like
the Honda big brass isn't MATEGGI. There's gonna be guys

(01:21:35):
in the garage. I'm sure there's gonna be the same
with the Yamaha after the V four unveiling the other weekend.
So I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of big weeks,
big suits behind the scenes. These guys really need a
fantastic weekend. Yeah, fingers crossed for them, the fingers everything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Right, then, Steve, let's make our predictions for the race weekend,
shall we.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I don't know if I want to. I'm struggling with this. Well,
I'm not well, I am. I'm struggling with third.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Okay, Well, as per usual, I will give you my
sprint prediction. You can then give me your sprint and
your Grand Prix and we'll round it out with my
Grand Prix prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Sorry for the sprint, I'm going and Mark Marquez win
and Alex Marquez second and a Pedro Acosta third.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yeah, copy and paste first and second.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Obviously I've actually written those down for you, so I
assumed we will say this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
You might as well. And I just cannot make up
my mind on third.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Really there's a hard one, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
It's really really hard this weekend. This is the hardest
one I've had so far. Look four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
For everyone listening. Steve just held up an entire page
of just notes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yeah, literally, my predictions for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Nice. You can't just write down every rider on the
grid and claim you go it right, by the way,
I'm not having that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
That's pretty much what I've done at this point. Bears,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Bears okay, And for the Grand Prix, Alex Mark or
Mark and Alex sorry okay, as always, and then I'm
going to go Pedro.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Okay, Mark, Alex Pedro for your Grand Prix. I'm going
Mark Pedro and Neo Basionini for my Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
It's too difficult. Third place for this one is too difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, it's a tough one, isn't it. Like, But then
that's the silly thing. It feels easy to predict first
and second, but we'd I'm likely to get them bang on.
It just feels like it's easy again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
The weather is going to play a big We're only
going first, second by the form that we're soon for
the first what three quarters of the season. But that
could fall off the knife edge. Certainly, Alex could just
lose the form. It doesn't seem likely, but it could happen. Yeah. So,

(01:24:15):
but with the form that they've been on, you've got
to throw it on faith that this is only just
going to continue.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yeah, that's fair, okay, Steve. Then, speaking of predictions here,
let's quickly recap the top ten in Fantasy League if
we didn't do that last week, and then we will
round out this show. I'm just I've got it open now.
I found myself. I'm there in sixteenth. Where are you at, Steve?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Thirty ish?

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Thirty ish? Oh there you are twenty seventh. Oh that's
too bad and still with a boost in play. Cheeky,
cheeky man, it's hanging in there. Yeah, So how many
points between you and me are there? Now? You're on
in two thousand, six hundred and thirty nine. I'm on
twenty seven hundred and eleven. So that right, did I

(01:25:08):
get it right. Oh, no, six hundred and thirty nine. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's it. Sorry, I misread that completely. I mean numbers
make two busy in. I ain't got fucking clue what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
No, the seventy nine between us, is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
No, that's not right. There'll be sixty two. No, seventy
two point five? Oh yes, points, so you know you
can recover that. That's still doable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
If Yeah, at this point, I think you've got me
beat mate, So.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Another seventy two points from me and I'd be up
in like fifth or something.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
So yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
You can still jump. A good boost, Steve will get
you a lot right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Now, we'll see I might have a little chip on
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Then the top ten, Steve the important ones here. I'm
not in the top ten now, so less important than
it was before. But what are you going to do?
So the top ten looks like this. From the USA,
in tenth place is cam Head, and then from Australia
in ninth is Jason j In eighth place is Real

(01:26:20):
Jurassic Racing from Great Britain, and in seventh, also from
Great Britain, is io let Go Team punk Ass Racing
from the US are in sixth, and in fifth is
G five o D from Great Britain. Fourth place from
Australia is Joystick Racing. And then we hit the top

(01:26:41):
three and there's a gap actually now the top seventy
five points there between fourth and third.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah, there's a nice little gap opened up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Yeah. Worth noting here that in the top ten, third, fourth,
and seventh and eighth have all got boosts left an
eighth t oh, cheeky wow. Good season so far from
real Jurassic racing, just of it. So then in Steed

(01:27:13):
in third place from Australia, currently in the bronze medal
position with two than eight and forty seven points is
hill Climb Racing. In second from Great Britain just four
point five points clear is Crumpers, and then leading the

(01:27:33):
way with a dominant seventy five point lead from Great
Britain is Kebab Spider, who it occurred to me the
other day, is also in the top ten for the
entire United Kingdom Official League. They are in fourth. That's
not bad at all, not bad at all. So Kebab Spider,

(01:27:54):
well done you. You are crushing it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
In the whole United Kingdom won nine hundred and forty eighth.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Oh that's it. I didn't even check where I was then,
you know, five hundred and forty third is mine. Yeah,
I don't know where they are in the overall let's
have a quick look here. Not in the top ten
over all two nine one six, but in thirteenth in

(01:28:29):
the world. Kebab Spider not bad at all, though Man
not bad at all, Very well played. I having a
great season, Kebab Spider, well done. You are having your
Mark Marquez resurgence.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah. I have issues of my Fantasy League team that
it's not moving.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Yeah, I can see that a bit a problem. Speaking
of dinosaurs from these technology, why is it not working? Right, Steve?
That does then bring us to the end of this
show so you can get your tech issues sorted.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
There it is. Finally it's fucking working.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Jesus done it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
It was just being slow, god painful, absolutely painful.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
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That was two saves to steve you. That was right down.
You had me and elbow digging into the asphalt to
drag that one back. But you might.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
George made what you're going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
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